It's the bourbon breakdown.
I haven't even tasted it.
Well, you need to use the Glink Air.
It's good.
It started to stink.
What, your asshole?
Yeah, that was the first one that stunk.
I'm gonna have my nose and my bourbon all night.
All right, are we live?
Is your boyfriend's name bourbon?
Loth.
Loth?
Really?
This is the way we start the podcast?
Talking about Sean's ad?
It's starting to stink.
What, your asshole?
That's the way we start our podcast?
I had some gas.
Wow, that's excellent.
You know what?
We strive for excellence.
I blame it on our producer.
He provided, he provided today.
He provided a Schlossky's sandwich and it gave me some gas.
I bet it did.
What kind of sandwich?
You need to stay away from those.
Oh, Schlossky's is super fattening.
It was, it was, okay, it was half a small ham and cheese sandwich.
Keep in mind, half a small.
What, at Schlossky's?
There is no small.
They're all gigantic.
No.
No, this one was regular.
No, have you ever actually gotten a small?
There's a small, there's a small, regular, and a large.
They're like, they're regular and just big.
But the bread is so fattening.
Yeah, that is true.
I get the oil.
I get the rye.
Oh, the rye is good.
I like the rye.
Get the rye.
Don't get the fricking sourdough.
Rye?
Sit like that.
Oh, it's all good.
Look, if you go to Schlossky's, you're already out of health.
I haven't been there.
The rye is healthy because it's dark.
There's so many better options than Schlossky's.
Why would I go there when I can go to Chick-fil-A, want a burger, Arby's, Wendy's.
No.
For variation.
All of those.
I don't want a burger.
Every single one of those is a better, well, than Jersey Mike's.
Jersey Mike's is good.
Jersey Mike's is better than Schlossky's.
I strongly disagree.
Oh, do you?
Yeah, I think Schlossky's, in my opinion, better than the burger joints.
I like Schlossky's.
Then what a burger?
You're a damn fool.
All right.
I like Schlossky's.
Schlossky's is good.
I do enjoy Schlossky's.
If producer wanted to say something, go ahead.
Try them in.
I just haven't been there in a long time.
Let's go right now.
I went to Schlossky's today.
Schlossky's.
I went there today, and I'm going through this drive-through.
All I see, the only people I see walk in.
Thank you.
Come again.
No, it's not Indians.
It's not Indians.
It's 60-year-old white men with either a white or blue t-shirt on.
Who don't believe in drive-throughs.
I fit that.
Are you that guy?
I think I saw Jeff walk in.
I hate drive-throughs.
Even when you know you're not going to eat there, you park and go in.
What are producers insinuating is that it's a white...
100% every time.
You never go through a drive-through.
Unless my wife yells at me loud enough, then I was like, all right, well, if the order
is wrong, you get to go back in and deal with it.
It's almost as if you get all shitty about it.
I did.
I hate the drive-through.
It's laziness.
It's almost as if I saw the same guy walk in 50 times.
This is the same guy that has a nest on his wall.
Hold on.
What?
I mean, that's not an oxymoron.
I don't know what is.
What?
Laziness.
He's talking about lazy and he's got a fucking nest on his wall.
Yeah, you have a Wi-Fi enabled nest.
It drives me fucking nuts.
Well, yeah, but you know what?
You've complained about it for six months and you've not fixed it.
I am going to fix it.
Yeah, now you're being challenged.
I have two nests at my house and they both suck.
I stayed on the phone for hours with the Nest Help Folk from Google.
They said, we're going to send you two new ones.
I said, okay, cool.
What was wrong with the old ones?
They failed.
Really?
Yeah, they failed because they lose continuity.
When they lose continuity, they do stupid shit.
So currently, I don't know what yours does, but mine, like downstairs, for example, the
trend is that it drops down to 68 all the time.
Now me, I'm not complaining about that.
I love waking up at 68 degrees.
That's cold.
Yes.
It's expensive.
Not really.
Okay.
Not really.
Do you look at the electricity bill or no?
I don't have the grids on top of my house, so I'm good.
I don't have to pay that extra money.
I don't think it works that way.
You're pulling from the grid, which means you're using electricity.
But I don't have solar panels on top of my house, so I don't have to pay to use the solar
panels.
So I just pay for power.
Right.
And how much does it cost?
$250, $300 tops.
How much do you pay for your solar panels?
You keep your house at 68 degrees.
Yeah, downstairs.
During the height of summer.
Right now, baby.
And your electricity bill is $250.
I'm going to call bullshit.
No, I'll tell you what.
I call bullshit.
I'm going to tell you what.
I'm going to look right now.
I'm going to challenge you on that one.
You don't have to do it right now, but I'm expecting to see utility bills on my desk
at 8 o'clock tomorrow morning.
I use Energy Ogre.
I use Energy Ogre, and they're a broker.
Yeah, I know.
You've talked about...
Yeah, but if you're going to contest, you're going to start talking shit, so I'm going
to pull up some energy bills.
And also, I want to make sure I'm telling the truth, because I don't want to lie.
I think you're lying.
So our last energy bill...
Oh, shit.
$771.
Who the hell spends all this money, man?
Your kids.
Yeah, it's not me, because I don't have that bill.
I don't have my credit card.
It's...
You son of a bitch, man.
You know, his phone's looking up, I guess.
So you charge it to your credit card.
It comes out of my business account.
So Google TV.
I had to tell him, and he just disconnected it, at least as far as I know right now.
Google TV, $58...
So how often do you guys go on your credit card and find shit that makes you mad?
Well, because my kids charge something.
Charge your kids, or...
My kids don't have my credit cards.
Okay.
So, never.
Unless I buy something, like, man, I should have done that.
So how do you handle the finances of your children, then?
So do they have their own credit cards?
They have a bank card that we deposit money in, and when they use it, they're done.
Okay, debit cards.
Correct.
So they have bank debit cards.
You transfer money as part of their...
They have an allowance.
Yes, yes.
Okay.
So when they run through that, they're done.
So they have to budget.
That's right.
And they have to learn to live within that budget.
And if they run out of money, they run out of money, bro.
Correct.
And how often do you cave?
Only if there's like emergency for gas or something like that.
Right.
But if they're like, yeah, you know, we went out and we had a big dinner and we bought
bottle service and shit like that.
I'm just like, I'm sorry.
Screw you.
Really?
Bottle service at a club?
Yes.
Do they get super mad at you for not like...
No, they don't ask anymore.
Okay.
So you've been so consistent that they just like...
They run out, they run out.
Yep.
Oh, good for you.
Yep.
That's important.
And they learn.
They do learn.
They have to.
And they work for their money.
Right.
Well, that's different.
Okay.
So they both have jobs.
Well, no, because they learned.
Like Brandon learned.
He's like, I want to be able to do something beyond what my parents give me.
Which means I got to get a job.
Correct.
So he was...
He's out there and he works the weekends.
Okay.
Good for him.
Where does he work?
Uncle Julio's.
Julio's.
And he's a...
He's a server.
Correct.
He does well for himself.
Yeah, they do pretty well.
I mean, he'll make a grand over the weekend.
Yeah, servers make good money.
They do.
And you know, and then he goes...
Especially if you're a good one.
And he tells me, he goes, yeah, I bought new shoes.
I'm like, all right.
Oh, whatever.
Dude, you can do whatever you want with your own money.
Yeah.
I'm not going to judge.
I'm never going to judge any of my kids or anybody, really.
I mean, if that's their money, they work for it.
And if that's what they want to spend it on, it's up to them.
Now...
Right.
And then the thing is, if he buys a bunch of stuff, he goes, dad, I need money for free.
Okay, that's different.
Like, if you have family or your kids or friends that are like asking for money and then...
And I'm not going to give names within my family, but there was a couple in our family,
right, that was asking for money.
And my father-in-law gave them money and they went on a cruise.
Yeah.
They went on a cruise.
You burn that bridge.
You do that once.
What?
Like, you asked me for money and then you went on a cruise?
I'm sorry to interrupt, but I just found it.
So our August 31st bill was $271.
$271.
Okay, now do you have aggregate billing?
So they do not take an average.
It's not average billing?
No, this is not like that.
This is...
This is whatever you use, you get...
Correct.
Really?
Okay.
And I was like, damn it.
I'm going to yank those damn things off the top of my roof for sure.
You still got to pay for them.
Oh yeah, I guess I do.
Yeah, so I think that's an important thing that, you know, one of my kids still tries
every now and then, but I'm like, dude, you know, you need to reel in your spending.
Yeah, sure.
Every dime I made over summer break, over Christmas break, went to my...
When I was in college, went to my food.
When I was living on my own, right?
When I was in the dorms.
Sure.
Went to food.
And if I want to go out to the bars, it was a lot cheaper to go out to the bars back then.
I could buy a pitcher for $2 or $4.
Oh God, that is a great...
$1.75 pitchers.
Yeah.
Remember that?
Yeah, you can't do that now.
Nickel drinks?
Oh yeah, that too.
Coin drinks.
Yeah.
Any coin drinks.
I mean, not that there's a difference between a penny and a nickel, but it literally was
any coin drinks.
Yeah.
We had stuff called drink and drown.
You spent five bucks to get in and you drink all night for $5.
You don't pay, you just go up and give them your mug and say, give me more.
You get completely blown up.
Give me more.
Yeah, so you can drink as much.
So if you have a high tolerance, you could drink a shitload.
Right.
It was only beer, so you couldn't get mixed drinks and shit like that.
God.
Man, how do they make money?
I don't know.
Well, so the coin drinks were only good until 10.
No, drink and drown was one night a week.
It was like a Wednesday.
So you'd go to Hurricane Harry's and we actually, we all went there.
Yeah.
Hurricane Harry's in College Cation and it was coin drinks until 10.
And then after that, I mean, but still it was like $3 after that.
I mean, ridiculous.
Yeah.
Yeah, you can't do that now.
And they've had to learn.
They've had to learn to adapt.
And they both have.
All right, so this bourbon I just tasted the old charter.
No.
Pardon?
No.
Old Forester.
What did you say?
Old Charter?
I said Old Charter.
Old Forester.
I was like, why are you saying old?
No.
I was like, no.
He said twice.
Yeah, that doesn't sound right.
And then I started thinking, that really doesn't sound right at all.
Yeah, so they have old Charter.
I think that is a bourbon.
It is a bourbon.
Old Charter.
Old Charter is?
You know, old Granddad is.
Old Granddad.
I think old Charter is as well.
It's got a yellow label, I think.
It's kind of like a Sigmunds 7, Sigmunds VO.
I think there might be a Sigmunds song.
Canadian whiskey.
Yeah.
Well, anyway, so.
What do you think?
I'm not saying no.
OK, so what is it?
We haven't even talked about it, have we?
It's Old Forester bottled in Bond.
No, is it bottled in Bond or is it just 100 proof?
It's 100 proof.
What's the difference?
Well, there's other things that go into making a bottle in Bond that needs to be made in
one distillery.
There's certain criteria to make it bottled in Bond.
So the company is a Brown Foreman.
The distillery is Old Forester Distilling Company and it is 100 proof.
What I like about this is, well, the corn is 72 percent, 18 rye, so it's a rye.
No, it's not a rye.
It's a bourbon.
It's a non- It's a bourbon.
Well, it is a bourbon, but I say rye because it's a, like it's a weeded bourbon.
This is a rye bourbon.
Correct.
So it's a, but.
I think this is a standard bourbon, right?
But that's a great, no, you make a great point, though.
They don't call out a rye bourbon, but they do call out weeded bourbon.
They do call out rye bourbons.
Because it's a standard.
Correct.
So at what point in the percentage of rye do they, does it, because we've been to Total
Wine and they have a rye bourbon section.
It's not a bourbon, though.
Those are ryes.
Those are rye whiskies.
Rye whiskies.
Correct.
All right.
So that is where the rye-
That's where the percentage of corn decreases below 51 percent.
Correct.
Got you.
And the rye goes up.
All right.
I got you.
We are educating our listeners.
Old Forester Signature 100 Proof doesn't actually say signature anywhere on its bottle.
It gets its name in honor of the legacy of founder George Garvin Brown, which features
his signature on every bottle.
Old Forester is the longest running bourbon brand on the market.
It was the first bourbon sold exclusively in Seattle of sealed bottles.
Interesting.
Yeah, really.
Be considering it's got a scroo-cap.
The longest running bourbon brand on the market.
Wow.
It was also known as one of the few whiskies that was allowed to be sold during the Prohibition
for medicinal purposes.
Medicinal.
Medicinal purposes.
You know, like if your wife is bitching a lot, ayy.
Ayy.
You go to your psychologist, he's like, ayy, he's the old forester.
Yeah, do you have spasso problems?
Yeah, this will help you tune that out.
Yes.
I got you.
It's even featured on the bottle's label for medicinal purposes.
That's ridiculous.
There is also an 86 proof Old Forester bourbon that is called Classic.
That is the first I've ever heard that.
That is medicinal.
That during Prohibition they allowed medicinal bourbon.
That's bullshit.
That is total bullshit.
That was a work around.
Did you guys know that?
I didn't know that.
No.
I mean, and so now they're talking about, you know, how pot is medicinal.
It starts out as medicinal.
It should be.
It starts out as medicinal and then they go ahead and make it full-flation.
Well, the medicinal, well, medicinal bourbon I don't think really exists.
It doesn't help you with, like if you have cancer, it doesn't help your side effects.
I don't know.
Marijuana does.
I would love to look that up.
What was the medicinal, medicinal reasons during Prohibition?
It was a work around.
No, there's no medicinal purposes.
Was it a reach around?
It was.
That's nuts.
Did you and your reach around.
And you say nuts.
I would love to know what the medicinal exceptions were during Prohibition.
Here we go.
Interesting enough, whiskey was still available during Prohibition with a doctor's prescription.
To supply that whiskey, six whiskey producers were given licenses by the U.S. government
to bottle and sell medicinal liquor.
It was all government stamped and bottled in bond at a hundred proof.
But why?
That's the question.
It was a work around.
Okay.
What was it prescribed for?
Here we go.
A select number of distilleries.
Whiskey production never stopped during Prohibition.
Amazingly, six companies were granted the ability to sell what is known as the medicinal
whiskey all in bottle and bond at a hundred proof.
Government stamped boxed up with your prescription attached to the box.
But they still didn't say why.
They're not saying why.
What did they prescribe it for?
There was one way to obtain alcoholic beverages legally during the Prohibition years through
a physician's prescription purchased in the liquor from a pharmacy.
Physicians could prescribe distilled spirits, usually whiskey or brandy on government prescription
forms.
Okay.
Still waiting for the why.
Whereas we believe the US of alcohol is detrimental to the human economy.
And whereas no, no, no, no.
It's just since ancient times, there were widespread beliefs that alcoholic beverages
had medicinal value.
Okay.
Those beliefs spread widely.
So I think it was just a belief back in the day.
And again, I go back to, I think it was a.
Well, let's put this.
Go back one more.
It's not that realistic.
Go back one more.
You got like Frank Sinatra.
You got like the rap pack.
Hold on.
It was prescribed alcohol for all sorts of ailments.
This is like the lower twenties.
To disease control by the early 19th century, especially in England, there was widespread
use of alcohol in medical treatments of various kinds.
Well, just like they use cocaine in hospitals.
Right.
To do what?
That's what they, that's what they used to use.
To cure shrinkage.
Shrinkage.
To keep the yang up.
That's not true.
Probably not true.
It's the opposite actually.
Oh really?
Yeah.
Makes it dangle.
It makes it.
It makes it turtle.
It makes a turtle go home.
Makes a turtle.
Back into its shell.
Poke out the back.
Hey Davey.
Poke out the back.
What happened to your penis?
What does that mean poke out the back?
It's extreme turtling.
You got to poop?
Extreme turtling when it pokes out the back.
Oh wow.
What the hell?
That's a prairie dog I guess.
Prairie dog.
What are you talking about?
I guess pooping.
I don't know.
I don't know what he's talking about.
I don't know.
I don't know what he's talking about.
No this is Paul's, not me.
No.
Whoa, whoa, whoa.
You said it sticks out the back.
You said something.
That's what you said.
You're having trouble with it.
No I'm not.
Yes you are.
Maybe.
All right.
Anyway.
All right.
So that's new.
We just discovered something new.
So when our wives complain we can just say it's medicine.
Yeah.
You know what?
I don't want to drink this honey.
I'm self-medicating.
But I want to be better.
I'm self-medicating.
I am self-medicating.
I have a snake bite.
This was prescribed.
You're not self-medicating if it's prescribed.
You're biting your arm.
You're that desperate?
God I need a drink.
Every 28 days you're allowed to go to your doctor and get this prescription.
So six distilleries were granted that.
I wonder what they were.
Apparently one of them was Old Forester.
Yeah.
I wonder what the other five were.
Could you find out what the other five were?
Yeah.
Who were the distilleries that had the exemption Mr. Producer?
And I wonder if they're still around.
Who were the six distilleries that were granted the privilege of producing for medicinal purposes
during Prohibition?
Now how long was Prohibition?
Was it 10 years?
It was three weeks I thought.
Oh no.
God it was much too long.
Really?
Wow they caved in a hurry huh?
It was fast.
There is no way it was repealed.
Three weeks later.
It was during the 20s right?
It was the 30s.
I thought it was the 20s.
I don't think so.
Well since at the time of the Prohibition there were two or three distilleries.
Millions of the barrels.
Okay so that's.
Your butthole stinks.
I didn't do that.
Oh my God.
That wasn't me.
I would own it.
You're proud of that.
I would.
That's totally.
It's not me.
Austin.
I can promise you it's not me.
Anyway.
On.
I don't even smell anything.
I don't know.
On.
I don't even smell anything.
All right anyway back to important broadcast material.
All right here we go.
That I get the list right here.
So the American medicinal spirits which later became national.
Ten medicinal licenses were authorized.
Schenley distilleries.
Then there's the James Thompson and Brother.
That letter became Glenmore distillery.
Frankfurt distillery.
Okay.
Four roses now.
Brown four roses.
Four roses.
Four roses now.
Four roses.
So the American medicinal spirits were authorized.
Brown Foreman and Ph Stitzel distillery.
Stitzel we have I believe that's you know the Blade and bow out there.
I think that's the Stitzel look at the one was Jim Beam A.M.S. which became national
dissolves now part of beam.
Unbelievable wow.
Really.
Unbelievable. Wow. Really? Yeah. This is shocking.
I heard something. Do you want to add something there, Mr.
Producer? Oh, did you just blow your nose? Oh, I thought that
was his ass. He did something. There's some kind of secretion.
Can you look up the prohibition period, please? So sit. Oh,
bless. I stop it. What? Somehow we've gotten, you know, we said
no burping. Now we fart. That's acceptable. You know what? What
is wrong with you guys? All right. I was not me. I had nothing
to do with that. Oh, my. It was your dog. How long was
prohibition? Come on, Mr. Producer. All right. Prohibition
lasted from I told you 1920s. You 13 years, 20 to 1933. Can
you imagine how painful it was for folks? Wait, first off,
they weren't not able to drink because they just kept buying it
from moonshiners, right? Yeah. Well, that's where NASCAR
started, right? The liquor, the runners who would run the
bourbon. They were the moonshine. That's how NASCAR
started. They would soup up these cars. You don't you didn't
know that? No. Yeah. NASCAR started during the prohibition
because you can't get caught if you can't get caught. Yeah,
they'd soup up their cars to outrun the cops at these muscle
cars. And then that translated into NASCAR into the racing. No
way. No wonder that's such a stock car racing in the United
States at its origins in bootlegging during my God, when
the drivers ran bootleg whiskey made primarily in the
Appalachian region in the United States, bootleggers needed to
distribute their illicit products and then typically use
small fast vehicles to better evade the police. Yeah. Okay, so
our listeners are learning a lot of things here in 1920.
Prohibition started. Correct. And then 10 distilleries. I
don't know what six No 10 filed for the right to do medicinal
whatever. Six were granted. And we went over those what they
were. And what was the old Forester old Forester was one of
them for roses was one of them. Jim Beam was one of them or at
least a portion of
stencil. Stetsil was one which I believe we have. I have to look
at that blade bow out there. I think that's stencil. And then
meanwhile, the rest of the country that couldn't get
medicinal prescriptions. They were needing to buy bootleg
bootleg in it. And for the people like they were making
like bathtub bourbon. Right. And for the people that were
producing it and running it, they had to have fast cars,
which eventually led to NASCAR. Well, yes. Crazy. We're like
we're learning great things. This is like Dukes of Hazard
shit. Yeah.
NASCAR. That's the Dukes of Hazard. That's the horn. Oh, the
horn. Yeah. So that's not the Dukes of Hazard. What were the
horn from Dukes of Hazard? What were the illegal clubs named
back then? I can't think of the name. Illegal clubs. Yeah, they
used to have all the underground clubs. The way he go drink
studio 51, no, 54. Gosh, I can't think of them. Al Capone.
Damn it. It's gonna bug me. The speakeasy. The speakeasy. Buffalo
Wild Wing. Yeah, so it was it was BW's B dubs and Hooters. I'm
starting to be like you.
Yeah, speakeasy. Speakeasy. Also called a blind pig or blind
tiger is an illicit establishment that sells alcoholic
beverages or a retro style bar that replicates aspects of
historical speakeasy.
Stupid. Oh, so okay. Okay. There is a bar in Frisco. The rare
book club. Yes. They built like it's a speakeasy. Yeah. Go on.
How's that work? Yeah. So you go in there and it is literally
looks like a library. And then you have to go to a certain area
of the bar and say something and they will open up and let you
into the bar. It's like a hidden passageway. And then you
have to go to a hidden passageway. I shit you not. And
Shelly was like researching it. She was like, we gotta go there.
Let's go tonight. We should that we so cool. We know it's a
secret phrases. Yeah, it's grape ape dudes like us.
I have nothing else.
It's the rare books bar. The old bar kitchen. Old bar. Does it
say kitchen? Yes. It does say kitchen. The old bar kitchen.
Established in 2019. They got live music. They don't say what
the secret password is though. It's follow us on.
Follow us on Facebook. Yeah. So it's it has it has like a
little you know it's just a fun. Oh no no no it's in the
phone booth. They have an old style phone booth. And you have
to walk through it. You have to get it go into the phone booth
and pick up the receiver and you have to say something and
they let you into the bar. Kind of like Harry Potter. I don't
think so. I know this is this is it. This is real.
So what? So I don't want to go there and just have to sit and
look at books. I want to go there and drink bourbon. So how
do we get back there? Well, of course, you know immediately how
to get back there. They're going to let you back there.
Look at that. They got Glen carrying glasses. Oh my God. I
don't know what the password is, but I'm sure it's the finest
whiskey. I'm sure it's super easy. It's like hello. I'd like
to be let in. OK, let me open the door.
I think it's great. It's not great. I think it is great.
And when we go there, you're going to say that over and over
again. Great. Great. Great. Great. Great.
And what's the triceratops that shoot shoot from the horns?
Yeah, that's right. What is that? What's the name of that?
Jack. Herculoids. Herculoids. Herculoids. Herculoids. Great.
Great. Great. And you have to say it like that and they'll
let you in. The Herculoids. There they are. I so am regretting
that I said anything about it. Great TV show. Let's get back
to I'm very uncomfortable right now. Alex Toth and the
Herculoids. No, no, no. Let's get back to Prohibition.
Saturday morning. Have you guys watched Boardwalk Empire? No,
I've never heard of it. It's good. It's about the
Prohibition in Atlantic City and they eventually move back and
forth between Atlantic City and Chicago. Chicago. But there's
also some New York shit. Al Capone. It's about the
Atlantic City mob and it's good. It's really good. It's
like five seasons. The Atlantic City or Atlantocity.
What? Atlantic. What a boon. What a boon for organized crime.
How stupid could they be to pass Prohibition and think that
people are not going to drink alcohol or want alcohol or buy
alcohol? So organized crime exploded, exploded. Right.
That's what it's about. It's about the you're never going to.
I mean, really, it's about the organized crime. And it went
off the charts. Oh, people win. It's back then. You know,
that's like people trying to make money. They give a shit.
Right. And you can get away with shit. Of course. I mean, you
could shoot somebody literally. You don't know about that.
No, I mean, you can get away with it. It wasn't the Wild West.
Well, yeah. Well, well, according to Boardwalk Empire
was and I know that's historical documentary with.
If you're from some remote part of the United States and you
join some sort of a clan, some remote part, maybe you do.
If no one knows you, you can go anywhere and shoot anybody.
They could be like, I don't know yet. Slick back hair, brown eyes.
OK, that's like frigging 70 percent of them. I just said,
Sean, I don't know if it's look back here back then.
You would have. I barely. Well, that's true. Actually,
that's why you're bald these days. That's probably why I tell
you. Well, it's probably true. I used hair products in my hair
that I used to have to burn. I used to have long glistened hair
like my producer over there and listening, glistening.
And I say glistening because I use this product that Jericho
literally made like a helmet. Oh, it was like a.
Oh, that's hot. Oh, man. But no one knew.
And it glistened it while it was shiny.
It sparkled very sparkly.
Diamonds. You have long, straight,
flying diamonds in your hair. There's nothing flowing about it.
It was it was it was just slick back and it was it just didn't move.
Yeah. In fact, I can go to bed, wake up the next morning
and ready to go. Well, from the front, yes.
But from the back, it was flat. So I always take a shower.
You had to fluff it up. Well, just the back.
Is this in the front party in the back?
Did you have a fluffer? You had a mullet.
I was my own fluffer and I did have a mullet.
I had a mullet as well. Did you guys really?
In college, I never had a mullet.
I had a mullet and an earring. So I was really.
An earring? Just what made you.
So reflecting back, what made you be rebellious and get an earring?
I don't know. I think it's just because a bunch of guys were getting it at the time.
And we went to a mall and I was just like, all right, I guess this is my time.
And they went up there and went, I didn't have it for very long.
We went through that story where it got all infected and everything.
That's what you get. That's totally what you get.
What are we looking at here?
But I still have the scar. If you got to look, you can still see the scar.
Oh, yes. It's pretty painful.
Yeah. Yeah, it's funny that.
You never had an earring? No, no, no, no.
Cock ring? Tons of them. Yeah.
I think I had 10 cock rings. I don't understand.
Back up, back up, back up. I'm not sure I understand.
Let's go back to the earrings.
So I mean, we have told some stories about some earrings, you know,
and I've told the story about mine when I tried to pierce my own ear
and stuck an embroidery needle inside of my neck.
And then you told yours where yours got infected and it hurt so bad.
You almost you did. I did.
I did black out. It used a bunch of brown goo.
It was so swollen. It was so swollen.
It was around the silver ball.
So I had to dig at it when I did it, it just spewed this stuff.
Oh, come on. And then again, it hurt.
But then I put the rubbing alcohol on it.
Oh, oh, and that's what I did.
That was just like the tunnel went like that and I was out.
So I started just like that.
Well, that's what happens when you put out.
So tell us about your haul on an open wound.
Tell us about your piercings, Paul.
Yeah. So you mentioned the cock rings.
You mentioned the cock rings.
Well, that's not a piercing.
That's an I'm actually not even sure what a cock ring is.
But yeah, a cock ring is something where you put your your your penis
and your junk all you put your junk all in one.
So it inhibits the flow of blood and it's a sort of slide down the shaft.
It slides down the shaft around your your scrotum.
Oh, and around your junk.
Yeah, it just envelops everything.
And it's supposed to inhibit the trap the blood in there
so that you stay hard longer.
Oh, well, thanks for sharing.
Yeah, I don't I never had a cock ring.
So I know what it is.
So well, I was thinking of like the bull ring through the tip of the.
Teen that is a piercing, so that is not all those cock ring.
You could call it.
So they they put piercings on the tip of the penis.
Oh, yeah. Big old fat rings.
Yeah, but that's not what they call it.
Why? The traditional cock ring is what I explained.
It's not saying that well over and over again.
Well, that's not what a cock ring is.
The cock ring is a cock ring is a cock ring is a cock ring.
Well, like, for example, what's the proper application of a cock ring?
A hilarious parody of what a cock ring was was Danny DeVito on.
It's always something in Philadelphia.
Danny DeVito is funny, man.
So he's like he's he's he's he's hanging out in a bar
and he's talking and have in in in a so all of a sudden comes up with Debbie Downer,
kind of like you and you walk up and talk to me.
He was a foil. I'm the foil.
And all of a sudden you hear this.
You hear this this this.
What the hell was that?
It is as I just lost my cock ring.
That's how this how bad this conversation is going on.
My cock ring just fell off.
Meaning he went limp.
Yeah, huge.
Well, I don't know if it's huge, right?
Right.
I mean, I'd see the cock ring.
Right.
It was a TV show.
Well, they also they also have.
Wow.
Is it the is it called the Van Dyke or where there's a ring through the tip of your panus
and there's a chain?
Um, I'm thinking that that's extent of my knowledge when it comes to.
Well, the reason I know this is it's not a Van Dyke.
It's called a prince or Prince Albert Prince Albert.
Yeah.
So pull up Prince Albert chain from the no, no, no, no.
Yeah.
I don't want to see a picture of a tip of the penis.
They yeah, it's they pierce it with the ring, I believe.
And there's a chain to another loop.
Why?
I don't know why.
It's decorative.
No, the only reason I know that there has to be some erotic draw to it.
The only reason I know this is when I was in Tahoe and we went to a beach,
the same beach, whale beach.
And I think I may have said this where we were up there with my family,
my sister's family who has two daughters and my dad and my dad was standing on the beach.
He had a Prince Albert?
No, but there was a guy and his wife.
No, no.
Nude.
No.
On the beach.
Older guy.
Probably the 60s.
And he had a Prince Albert.
Yes.
No.
Yes.
No, he did not.
My dad was standing there and we were out in the water swimming and I come back up and
he goes, Jeff, did you see the old guy?
And the thing that freaks me out is my dad knows what a Prince Albert is.
Did you see the guy with the Prince Albert?
And I was like, what?
No.
So you're like, what is that?
Apparently he got up and he pranced and he was showing it off to everyone.
And then he went back and he laid back down.
Okay.
And so it's a different...
I'm kind of curious.
To be on behalf of Prince Albert, do you need me circumcised or is it like...
I have no idea.
Well, how does that work?
So it's...
It's through the head.
It's through the head of the penis.
Our producer pulled a Prince Albert.
Yeah.
Through the head of the penis is a ring.
We're going to have to analyze this.
So, wow.
And then there's a chain attached to the ring and then a chain goes to the nipple, you said?
It may go to the...
No, no, no, no.
No, to like the nuts or something like that.
Actually, I don't know where the other end of that little chain is.
It could be your wallet.
Prince Albert piercing.
Yeah.
Maybe attached to your wallet.
This is going to affect me, but let's go ahead and do this for the...
This is science.
This is...
Oh.
That's not a Prince Albert.
That's a gauge in the head of a penis.
There's so many variations.
Find the chain.
That's not...
Hurry up.
Hurry up and find something to chain to it.
Scroll, scroll, scroll.
Oh, mighty...
No.
Turn it off.
Okay, I'm done.
I'm done.
Turn it off.
Thank you.
Immediately.
Okay.
This is your fault.
I didn't ask.
Yes.
No, you...
You...
You're like, scientific reasons.
Let's look at it.
Bring up Prince Albert.
God almighty.
But my question is...
That looks so uncomfortable.
Yes.
Why would anyone do that?
I don't know.
It has to be some ironic thing.
And that one penis had like 20.
Okay. I didn't look.
I didn't look.
I closed my eyes.
How could you not see that?
So then they have the women that put...
And the men.
Oh, and the men.
Gross.
That put the studs through the tongue.
Correct.
And they do that because...
Because when they're giving...
Oral pleasure.
A beege.
I don't think it's a beege.
I think it's more for women.
Well, I heard the women get it.
I thought the balls...
It's both.
But I thought the ball on the tongue is what, you know, kind of stimulates the, you know...
The who?
The what?
The declitoris.
The who?
God.
You just made it sound so bad.
Yeah.
What?
You went over the edge.
Did you change the...
Did I?
You can change the screen.
Get it off...
Meanwhile, we're talking about Prince Albert's and penis piercings.
You're the one who wanted to see it.
No, I didn't.
I really didn't.
I knew it was going to be bad.
It went bad.
Was it as bad as you thought?
You made me nauseous.
Was it as bad as you thought or worse?
Worse.
Man, I'll tell you what.
Like, it's going to kill you.
What?
It would kill me.
What?
Sticking a big old piece of metal through your penis?
Oh, you know what?
Hold on.
Speaking of dying, God bless.
You know, 61 years of age, 62.
What's his name?
Norm MacDonald died?
Norm MacDonald died.
Yeah.
Yeah, that was a tough one.
Yeah.
Even my wife was like, what?
Yeah.
He died of so much cancer, I think.
A long bout of cancer.
Yeah.
I think it was prostate cancer.
Is it really?
Yeah, I think it was...
I could be wrong.
I thought it was prostate cancer.
Yeah.
It was cancer.
And you know how prostate cancer is not found early?
Is when you're afraid to have some...
A doctor's finger shoved up your ass.
Yes.
Sean.
That's how you find it.
Sean.
Hello.
But he was good.
He was good when he was on SNL, when he did the Weekend Update.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
He was great.
And he used to just slam OJ.
He was on there when OJ was going through that whole thing.
Yes.
And the producers and the directors were like,
no, we can't talk about OJ.
We can't keep talking about that.
And he would just keep doing it.
Why not?
I don't know.
That was the biggest new...
That was the biggest travesty of justice ever.
They didn't want him to talk about it.
Do you guys remember where you were when they announced the OJ verdict?
No.
To me, it was like a challenger or 9-11 moment for me.
It wasn't for me.
It was stupid.
No.
I was in my office and the radio was on and they were protesting outside and they get ready to...
If it doesn't fit, you must acquit.
And they were getting ready to announce and they said...
Cochran.
And he's acquitted.
OJ is acquitted.
I was like angry.
I was literally like, that's such bullshit.
Yeah.
I was so angry.
I always wonder how they let that go.
Is it where they were afraid of riots?
Oh, yeah.
They were terrified of the riots.
Was it Judge Ito?
Remember the hem?
Judge Ito.
Well, there was another judge.
What a freaking clown show.
Her name was Diane something.
She was the original judge and then they switched to Judge Ito.
The only one I know is Judge Ito.
What a clown show that was.
It was.
Total joke.
Janet Royce.
You talk about being obviously guilty.
Obviously guilty.
Well, I mean, he hasn't had...
At least I don't think he's had a good life afterwards.
He's been in prison a couple of times.
Well, he's out now.
He's out now, but you know, I don't know if he hasn't.
OJ Simpson trial judges.
Is he still looking for the killer?
Because he said he wouldn't rest until...
Right.
I'm kind of curious.
Is OJ Simpson judges?
I mean, seriously, is he still looking for the killers?
No, he's in jail right now.
No, he isn't.
He's out.
Oh, he got back out?
Yeah, so Norm MacDonald was a big one.
Well, that's Judge Ito.
There was one more.
Before Judge Ito, there was a female.
I don't remember that.
Well, I mean, there was the lead prosecutor.
But judges.
The lead prosecutor was...
No, I don't think there was...
I think it was just him.
You're thinking the prosecutor.
Oh, maybe it was.
Marcia Clark.
Yeah, I think you're right.
She writes books now.
Oh, good for her.
Yeah.
Yeah, what a stain on her career, though,
to be the one that let OJ get off.
Her hair has definitely improved.
Oh, yeah.
She had that Threes company Janet haircut.
Yes, she did.
Oh, that's so bad.
Yeah, so anyway.
Anyway, yeah, what were you going to say?
So Norm MacDonald, classic.
That's just his sense of humor.
And I saw a clip of him today when he was on The View way back.
I saw that.
With Barbara Walters.
Yeah, Barbara Walters and Whoopi Goldberg.
No, Whoopi was done on there with Joy Behar and some other black
kid on there.
Yeah, what was her name?
Denise.
The racist herself, Joy Behar.
Yeah, you know, and he's talking about he was talking about the White House.
And let's get the homicide out of the White House.
And they were like, homicide?
What is he talking about?
You know, that's how Norm MacDonald, he never outright says something.
He kind of like beats around the bush to the point, you know, like, oh, my fucking guy.
Will you say it or I'm going to punch you?
Right.
He's talking about Clinton's and, you know, he killed it.
And then, you know, Barbara Walters was kind of like, well, you know, you can't just make
accusations like that.
What will you make an accusation like that with Donald Trump all the time?
Whatever.
Right.
But that was back then way before then.
Way.
But he was he got interviewed by the view.
He'll never go back there because he's total right wing guy.
Who is dead?
He won't go back.
He will not go back.
Maybe virtual.
Correct.
I guess that's possible.
It's never possible.
But to kind of tie into the death theme that Paul brought up.
So in the last two weeks.
Well, it's more than that, I think.
So I think I've got I got a few here.
We'll go through and see if you guys recognize him.
So Charlie Watts.
No.
The drummer for the Rolling Stones.
OK.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, that was.
Yeah.
I'm not a big Rolling Stone fan.
He was one hundred eighty seven years old, I think.
I think he was pushing one ninety.
He looks so old.
Not that I'm trying to be a dick, but.
Yeah, I don't know how old Charlie Watts was.
He was born in forty one.
So he's eighty years old.
He's a year older than my dad.
Do my dad's older than that.
And I can promise you, he does not look that old.
Yeah, but he lived the rock and roll lifestyle.
That's a good point.
That just probably just beats the shit out of you.
Yeah, that's a very good point.
I mean, his last 20 years, probably.
It may have been calm, but so was he significantly older than the rest of them?
I mean, how old is he?
I think Jack Maggler, Jack Magger, Jack Maggert.
Yeah, I think Charlie Watts was the oldest.
Yeah, he had to be.
What I understand.
I wonder Mick Jagger.
I think I don't know.
I think he's in his seventies.
God, how crazy.
Imagine being in a band, being in a band when you're in your 20s.
1963 to 2021.
He's basically never had to worry about anything in his entire life.
Yeah, no, never.
Imagine being 20 and being in a band and then you're all you're together for so long.
Sixty years, just about.
That your drummer dies of old age.
Not a drug overdose or anything, but just old age.
That's what I'm saying.
It's like.
That's amazing.
And they're on tour.
They're about to do that.
That's my point.
That's amazing.
Yeah, and they didn't stop doing because he already was not playing with the band.
So well, Charlie Watts, he was involved a lot of orchestra music, orchestrated music,
quintet.
He was the Charlie Watts for him.
So he was a composer.
In addition to being a drummer.
Yeah, that was like in the 90s, 2000.
In fact, 2010, he was the magic of the boogie boogie.
OK, yeah.
That is an amazing story.
All right.
What's the next death that you got on your list here?
I'm waiting for Sean to do this impersonation.
Jackie Mason.
Oh, you ready?
You know that voice, Sean?
I do.
All right, do it.
Here we come on.
Hold on.
I got to get ready for this.
Jackie Mason.
He's like the epitome.
I don't even know what that accent is.
It's very Jewish.
It's got to be.
Is it New York Jewish or Brooklyn Jewish or something?
He looks very Jewish.
Manhattan.
It's a hold on.
There's a cartoon guy that sounds like.
He's even like on Simpsons.
He was like the Simpsons.
He's like father like clown.
Try to find a video and just hear his voice.
He's got a very unique, unique voice.
Like father like son.
Kind of like a JFK sound.
That sounds like the Kennedys.
No.
That is somebody on the Simpsons though.
That's right.
Unless it's my horse.
But if it's not my horse.
Well, I don't want my horse to come out as a.
You see, I'm in favor of homosexuals of the army.
I am.
I wouldn't bend over backwards over it.
But that's how I feel.
Wow.
It's a little too clever for this side.
Let me explain it.
You understand this.
This is going out to the same direction in the United States.
I don't know if it's so true here.
Do you know that they have special fat organizations
to make sure that you don't fire a person from any job for being overweight?
Now, it happens to be a big problem.
A lot of fat people couldn't get a job just because they were fat.
And you were able to throw a guy out because he thought he was too fat.
That is selfish and disgusting.
A fat person should be able to get a job.
But they went overboard with it in the United States.
Now, no matter how much you weigh, nobody has a right to fire you.
You could weigh 9,000 pounds.
Nobody's business.
American Airlines.
American Airlines lost the case against the fat stewardess.
But they tried to fire her for being overweight.
She won the case.
They decided it's unconstitutional.
She's allowed to be as fat as she wants.
Now, when you go on American Airlines planes,
all the stewardess are going like this.
I'm ready.
All right.
He's got that cliche.
It's almost like it's kind of like the voice of the Independence Day.
Does it Jewish kind of Russian sound?
Yeah.
I got to practice that.
I don't know.
It's kind of like a Jerry Seinfeld kind of voice there.
Yeah, a little bit.
All right.
Who else?
This one you may not know is Biz Marquis.
No.
That was he sang.
I think he had one hit back in the when I was in college.
And it was it was a terrible song.
It was You Got What I Need or something like that.
Girl, you've got what I need.
I get you got what I need.
He's just a friend and you say he's just a friend.
Oh, baby.
You stop immediately.
What is this?
Biz Mark Biz Marquis.
It's Biz Marquis.
He's an American rapper.
He just died like July 16.
Yeah, that's the whole point.
That's why he's on the list here.
Yeah.
So it was like one of these he had a little piano piano.
So it's like one of the like the like a 90s late 80s early 90s.
Like I said, I was in college.
I went to spring break in Daytona and this song was big.
So click on that official video.
Just a friend in 1989.
Just a friend.
And here we go.
You'll know as a tribute to your mom's is so poor.
She went to McDonald's and put a shake on layaway.
And he can't sing for shit.
He's got a plant.
How many rappers can't
Your mom's hair so nappy she got to take painkillers to comb my hair.
Love.
She wanted you to wait.
Let me tell you a story of my situation.
I was talking to this girl from the U.S. nation.
The way that I met her was on tour at a concert.
She had long hair and a short miniskirt.
I just never heard this before in my life.
You've heard the chorus.
I whispered in the air come to the picture booth so I can ask you some questions to see if you're 100 proof.
I asked her her name she said blah blah blah she had nine 10 pants and a very big bra.
I took a couple of flicks and she was in shoes.
I said how do you like the show?
She said I was very amused.
I started throwing bish.
She started.
But when I spring the question.
Rapping pioneers.
Well, I don't know about that.
He basically had this one song that I know of.
Oh, he's horrible.
Yeah.
It's almost like a parody.
Yeah.
This part here.
You got what I need.
But you say he's just a friend.
Yeah, I've heard this.
Oh baby you got what I need.
Definitely can't sing.
No.
You know what's interesting?
How did he die?
All right, you can stop this.
I don't know.
You know what's interesting is our boys have recently found this song.
You're kidding.
Knew that he died before I did.
So this song has come back around in popularity apparently.
At least in our boys circles.
Wow.
Which I find interesting.
Type 2 diabetes.
And they're like, and he was in his 50s I think, right?
He was, yeah.
And I think what's funny is, you know, Steve was like, yeah, this song, Bismarck, he just got a
friend.
I was like, yeah, that was when I was in college.
Right.
Was when that song came out.
Dude, he went into a diabetic coma.
They said he was in a rehabilitation facility.
That was in December 2020.
Well, yeah.
And July 21, rumors of his death circulated on Twitter, but apparently he did not die.
He didn't die until recently.
If that's what, no, he died of July 16th, 2021.
Yeah.
So how is that on your list?
That's how long I've had the list.
Oh, shit.
Okay.
We had to talk about dead folks in a while.
Yeah.
Well, there you go.
All right.
Next one.
All right.
That's crazy.
Next one.
There's two of them here.
Oh, twin sisters?
No, well, they're, they're.
You say sisters?
They're not sisters.
I said twins.
One is, one is Charlie Robinson.
No.
We'll see if you recognize him.
Pull up his, pull up his picture.
Charlie Robinson.
Robinson.
All right.
The theater.
No, not the singer.
No, I'm not.
Oh, the American theater actor?
Yeah.
He played on Night Court.
Night Court.
He was the guard, wasn't he?
Or the bailiff or whatever they call him.
All right.
Let me see him.
Charlie Robinson, the American theater actor.
Right there.
Second from the top.
Click.
You know how to use Google.
Right there.
There you go.
Right there.
That guy.
I mean, he just died.
So he was just on, let me see.
Where was he at?
You said he was the, he was on the show.
Well, he was at Night Court, but he was just recently.
Well, it wasn't recent, but I watched him on 30 Rock.
Was he on that?
He was, he did a cameo.
Cameo.
I just know that because I just saw it.
But that was about eight years ago.
Picture on the far left.
That's his.
That's Night Court.
Yeah. Night Court.
You remember Night Court with bowl and.
Yeah.
Yep.
That's actually he's the only name I know.
Well, the other one that died.
That looks like Tommy Lee Jones.
No, it's not.
It does look like it, but it's not.
Not him.
OK.
No.
OK.
The other person the other person that died is Markie Post, who was the girl right there.
Are you kidding me?
No way they died in the same week?
Well, the same month.
Wow.
No way.
That's kind of crazy.
From the same show?
Same show.
Yeah, she passed away as well.
Oh, she's pretty.
Yeah, she's pretty lady.
Oh, wow.
She's really pretty.
Yeah. August 7th.
I don't know when Charlie Robinson died, but it was real close to that.
She seemed kind of young then.
She was.
She's born in 50. So that made her.
70.
71.
That's young.
70.
That's young.
She's short too, 5'6".
Yeah, just as short as. What's his name?
Pete Sessions.
Right.
That's the craziest thing.
Yeah. So I find that interesting.
All right, who's next?
He passed away.
God, Paul's like, I want to hear about more dead people.
God.
Well, no.
Can we not bring it in fast enough?
Who's next? Who's next? Fuck her.
What?
You were like, who's next?
Well, yeah, I mean, I'm interested.
These are interesting.
So the next one.
What the hell?
Next one.
Why are you dying on me?
Next one may be a little more obscure.
His name is William Smith.
Like the other two weren't?
William Smith.
Well, you knew who the other people were.
You just didn't know their names.
Yes, that's true.
He was.
There's going to be a thousand William Smiths.
That guy right there.
Did you ever watch those Clint Eastwood movies
any which way you can or any which way you would lose?
Yes.
He was always the bad guy.
He was the bad guy that Clint Eastwood fought.
William Smith is a bad guy in a bunch of different movies.
That's what I mean.
He was a bad guy in a lot of movies.
Even in some sort of Cherokee movie.
Oh, yeah.
OK.
So if we could find anything new.
Yeah, with that mustache.
I definitely remember the mustache.
Yeah, the only reason I wrote him down
is because I remember seeing that movie theater in,
or I'm sorry, I saw that movie in the theater
with a friend of mine back in the day.
Which one?
He was either in any which way but loose
or any which way you can.
One of those where he was fighting Clint Eastwood.
So who was the girl that was always with Clint Eastwood
in those movies?
See if you guys can remember her name.
I already know it.
The blonde.
Really cute, big eyes.
She had big eyes.
Cheryl Ladd?
No.
Sandra Locke.
Yes, that's correct.
Thank you.
It was very good.
Look up Sandra Locke.
She was a very pretty girl and she was in a number.
There she is.
Didn't she, did she marry Clint Eastwood?
I don't think so.
She was in several movies with him.
Look at those eyes.
Big eyes.
And look at that pose right there.
Yeah.
Oh, what's going on there?
About to mount somebody.
Yeah, it looks like it.
Anyway, so anyway, the gauntlet was another one that she was in.
How many movies did they make together?
Clint Eastwood and Sandra Locke.
I thought it was three.
I thought it was any which way.
What was it?
What would you call it?
Any which way but you can and any which way but loose.
Both of those and the gauntlet.
Had an orangutan in it.
I think the gauntlet as well.
What's the matter?
Of course, you're not drinking your bourbon.
Yeah, why are you like an hour into the feet away from your mic?
No, well, I put my feet up for a second, but I was just like, wow, I just I still have my drink.
It's full and yours is gone.
It kind of says they were they were together.
Click on that bottom.
How can you not work that many movies and not be together?
You know, they had a nightcap here and there.
Really?
Are you doing?
I mean, Clint Eastwood was a well-fed guy.
Wait a minute.
She was pretty.
Locke was married as well to a gay sculptor.
She had a 10 year relationship with Eastwood, but was married to a gay sculptor during that time.
Well, that kind of well.
All right.
Oh, there you go.
She had needs.
Gay.
So I would like to know.
Is it homosexual or is it happy?
Well, I want to know what movies.
I want to know what movie she was in.
Look up her filmography.
Sandra Locke.
There you go.
That's what you need right there.
Sandra Locke.
All right.
Look up her movies.
Filmography.
Oh, she was in Gondola.
Barnaby Jones.
Look at that.
Barnaby Jones.
You guys remember the tune of that?
I never watched Barnaby Jones.
Oh, she was at Outlaw Josie Wales.
Really?
Yeah.
Okay.
Well, then they go.
That's one.
That must have been the first one.
The gauntlet.
Every which way but loose.
I was right about the gauntlet.
Bronco Billy is another one. That's another one.
I think.
And in which way you can.
He was in.
And then in which way but loose.
And Sudden Impact is another one.
Oh, there's amazing stories.
We talked about that.
Remember?
Yeah.
So they're in a movie, at least five movies together.
Yeah.
Wow.
Sandra Locke.
Very interesting.
I want to go back and watch amazing stories.
That was so impactful as a kid.
I know we talked about that last time.
But.
Yeah, I did a little research on.
I don't believe I've seen those.
Really good.
I remember when they came out.
Are they really that good?
Were they good back then?
Well, I mean, as a kid, I'll just tell you
the impact they had on me.
Like, you know, that's relative, right?
It's kind of like when you see Disney on Sunday nights.
It's kind of like, I got to watch that.
Didn't know how good it is.
Right.
It was a Disney special.
Right.
It's going to be good.
We watched Disney.
Every Sunday we'd watch Disney.
Yeah.
There you go.
All right.
Are we done with dead people?
No. A couple more.
I'm trying to be.
You said, who's next?
The last one, then, is Dick Donner.
Dick Donner.
Right.
So is that.
Richard Donner.
You know what he made?
No.
He's a director.
And he made.
So look up Richard Donner.
You'll be.
You'll know.
He made.
American filmmaker.
Need the weapon.
The works included some of.
Yeah.
Superman.
He's like.
Lethal weapon, the goonies, supermans.
So Superman with Christopher Reeves.
Yeah, the originals.
Guy, when that sad story.
Him falling off the horse and being a quadriplegic.
Yeah.
He ended up dying early.
And I think that's normal for quadriplegic.
So I mean, do they choke?
You know, it was.
I think I think.
Crying shame.
Did he aspirate?
But the fact that he felt.
Well, first of all, it's horrible.
He fell off a horse.
And he was a quadriplegic, but he was married to a smoking hot woman.
She stuck with him.
She did.
Good for her.
I don't think she's an actress or anything.
What a waste of meat.
How do you know?
How do you know that?
How do you know that he was married to a smoking hot woman?
Look up Christopher.
She was actually on the Howard Stern show.
Christopher Reeves wife.
So she was on the Howard Stern show trying to drum up money for.
For the study of.
Whatever happened to her husband, you know, as far as being a quadriplegic.
And and trying to, you know, Dana Reeve.
Oh, she passed away.
Stem cell.
No, she was married to 2004 when he died.
Oh.
Why did he lose his hair?
A chemo?
I don't know.
Well, I don't think he had cancer.
Well, maybe it's maintenance free.
It could be.
I don't want to deal with my hair anymore.
And he was a good looking man, too.
He was tall.
He was a good looking man to use tall.
Was I mean, how ironic he plays Superman on TV and then that happened.
Oh, you're right.
She's really pretty.
What an awful story.
Well, I think it's a it's a it's a it's a great love story that the fact that she stayed with him.
Yeah, good for her.
You know, and I remember I remember on the Howard Stern show listening and Howard was like
kind of like, you know, you're smoking hot, you know, and this like, man, she's like,
you know, thank you.
Thank you.
And she's being respectful, but she's on the Howard Stern show.
So, I mean, right.
But again, she was trying to drum up.
There was some organization she was trying to get people to donate to.
And they were talking about all the things that she would have to do.
And they were making fun of Christopher and, you know, lightly, you know, like
in and he was like, so what do you do?
And, you know, they're talking about being aroused and, you know, stuff like that.
Oh, yeah, it was this was when he was taking this.
This was he wasn't on.
He wasn't on the radio station.
This was like when he was on E and they broadcasted it.
And she was OK with him kind of making fun of his paralysis.
Well, they again, the in game for this was for them to make money
for the for donations.
And evidently, they made a lot of it.
OK, they may have gone into it.
But I think it's a good understanding that I'm going to ask some personal questions.
Yeah, kind of a thing. OK.
Well, I mean, and also if you go to Howard Stone, you know, you're going to get into that.
Yeah, he's a dick.
And there's no question he's a dick and he goes after you and he's funny about it.
He's not a dick. He's a total dick.
He's not a dick. In my opinion, he's not a dick.
He's just he has no cooth when it comes to certain things.
Yeah. And it's just like there's it's kind of like me.
I'm not a dick. I just are your dick.
I have no cooth.
All right. I'm a dick.
I'm just wondering why he lost all his hair.
Yeah, I don't understand why.
Did you guys ever watch Somewhere in Time?
I was just going to bring that up.
That was one movie.
It was a stupid romance, but it had time travel on it.
It was amazing.
I found it interesting.
I watched it as a kid on the airplane.
Yeah. When I was going overseas.
I thought the chick was Jane Seymour.
She was hot. Oh, she was hot.
That is a fantastic movie.
It really is. And it creeped me out.
It really did as a kid. The fact that when he saw the penny
and he starts to spin, spin, spin, he gets pulled back to his world
and he tries as hard as he can to get back to her.
And he can't do it.
He can't. He can't.
And then he finds her when she's like 90 or something like that.
Well, she comes and sees him.
Yeah. And he's like, oh, so she waited for him and he never came back.
Right. I need to go watch it again.
That was great. Anyway, time travel.
Any good personal experiences?
That takes place on Mackinac Island.
Mackinac Mackinac Island.
It is up and it looks exactly the same as it did in that movie.
It is in Michigan up on Lake.
It's up there by Lake Erie, Lake Superior, whatever those lakes are up there.
And it's the Grand Old Hotel.
And it's there it is.
There are no vehicles on that.
Oh, I've heard about this.
You know, it's you know, I have heard about this.
You know, well, you know, it's weird about vacation there about
beautiful places like this.
I've got a friend.
Well, I have some friends.
They're a family and they're not from the United States, but they lived in my community
and they're from, I guess, the Scandinavian area.
And they moved.
They've literally he said they're both computer programmers and they live.
They live all over Europe.
And so they they've traveled a bunch and they always post pictures on Facebook.
And they're always of beautiful, beautiful places like this.
Well, they just flew in from from the Scandinavian area.
I guess they they they left Copenhagen.
They flew to I guess the next stop was Chicago.
And then they hit Dallas and they live in Prosper currently.
And I mean, they would their their first day of school was which I saw in the post was like today
or or yes, Prosper.
Well, Prosper's first day of school wasn't today.
Their kids first day of school was today because they just came in.
Oh, they just moved here.
Yeah.
So they just moved here because they originally stayed here a couple about four years ago,
perhaps five years ago.
And the kids are older now, of course.
And but one of the things I admired and I followed on Facebook was that they would always go to
these beautiful places and post pictures.
Yeah.
And it kind of it kind of it was kind of humbling.
And I felt kind of like.
I'm not I'm not seeing it because you know how you're blinded by things around you
and you don't see it?
Well, here she is posting these beautiful pictures out at Lake Grapevine.
Oh, right.
You know, of a beautiful.
Meaning there's beautiful things all around us and we think we need to go to Europe to see it.
Exactly.
So they're they're posting all this stuff all the time.
And I'm like, that is so beautiful.
I wish I could go there.
That is so beautiful.
I wish I could go there.
That is awesome.
I mean, I really wish I could go.
And here they are.
They come all the way to Texas and she's posting beautiful pictures again.
And I'm like, that's 10 minutes away.
Right.
You know, right, right.
No, that's a great point.
It's just.
The line is we don't make time for that and we don't plan and we're not intentional about that
kind of stuff.
Yeah.
And it's it really was it was, you know, it just it kind of humbles you a little bit.
It does.
It really does.
You need to slow down.
Just open your eyes.
Take a breath and see what's coming on.
And that's where, you know, dudes like us need to step up and we need to take more opportunities to
invest in in in nurturing what is around us.
I agree.
We talk about taking these trips.
You know what?
We don't need to take trips, really crazy trips.
Yeah, we can travel an hour away and see some beautiful things.
Yeah, I agree.
We can take our bottle of bourbons with us, sit in tailgate for a couple hours,
take a couple hours nap and come back.
Fuck it.
I mean, we can go.
We can go to a campsite.
And look, we're getting up to get a fantastic time of the year where, you know,
we can go get a little camper or we can go get some tents and we can go tent.
Fuck it, man.
When it comes November and early December.
I mean, there's there's a especially here in Texas.
We have four months where it's it's applicable.
We can go out there and it's conducive for us to to spend the night without dying of heat stroke.
That's what that's what that's what keeps me from camping in this area because it gets
I've done it and it sucks.
Yes, you're not camping the summer.
It's ridiculous.
But there's there are so many beautiful places.
And I'm telling you, I I love like you talk about Colorado.
Yeah, I love it.
I absolutely love it.
I yearned for it.
I mean, not just Colorado, but stuff like that.
And it's just, you know, it kind of it almost made me mad at myself thinking,
you know, I'm just not spending enough time.
I need to make time.
And it's frustrating.
And it's because the rat race, it's because of all the shit that goes around us.
And I totally agree.
I mean, I was very spoiled growing up and I got to travel a lot as a kid because I grew up in three
different countries and we always went on different vacations and stuff.
But my wife hasn't seen anything.
Right.
And I feel like a total shithead for not showing her the world, kind of like I saw it when I was a kid.
And but you're you're you're dead on, Sean.
That's what I mean.
I mean, we just get sucked up in this and that and we.
I mean, but then again, how many people can well now now we have excuses because
we can't travel because we have to have a vaccine passport.
Well, that's and all the bullshit.
But there's that's my whole point is that travel in Texas, you could travel in Oklahoma.
Yeah, there's so many beautiful things next door.
There's beautiful things here.
We just, you know, we need to go and do it.
And you know what?
You you you make a great point because Lake Roy Roberts, there's state just fucking state parks.
They're everywhere.
Yes.
So check this out.
My last beautiful at my last job, I worked with a lot of H1B visa Indian people and I'd be friend.
We became friends and and I would always ask them, you know, hey, how was your weekend?
What did you do?
Oh, we went here.
We went there.
We went.
I mean, they were driving every weekend was a trip every weekend was a trip to Austin, to,
you know, Lubbock to the outside of Amarillo.
There apparently some like little mini mini canyons.
There's Palo Alto.
Yeah.
Yeah, something like that.
Something.
Yeah.
Palo Dura canyons.
You're right.
And they went there and then they went to some, you know, all these different places.
I'm like, I've never been to any of those places.
But a Palo Dura.
There it is.
Palo Dura canyons.
Look at that.
That's beautiful.
That's freaking in Texas.
Stephen's Stephen and Clayton went there.
That's right outside of Amarillo.
Yeah.
Well, it's beautiful on the way.
Granted, that's four and a half, five hours away on the way to Lubbock.
Right.
It's not to that degree, but you see some of this.
Oh, yeah.
I mean, look at that.
It's crazy, right?
Yeah, I'd go.
Anyway, my point is you can rent these little cabins.
You see that stone thing right there, the house.
You can rent those.
So I don't even care about rent.
You know, I'm telling you, that's where you sleep.
I'm at a point now where I'm at a point now where, man, I'm thinking we just we get a
campsite that's got one of these community washrooms and we just bring a tent.
I mean, we don't want a big tent.
I'll bring a single person tent.
A single person tent.
Does it get three single person tents?
Boom.
I know growing up, that's one thing that my family did.
What about our wives?
Well, my wife will not go.
Like that.
That answers that.
Mine won't either.
So there you go.
Yeah.
So I know growing up, Julie said that her family never took vacations.
Right.
And my family did, but they were all camping.
Right.
They were not extravagant or anything like that, but they're really good memories.
And we'd go down to I lived in Cincinnati.
So we went to Disney World a few times, but we'd camp down there during August.
And it was miserable.
But as a kid, I didn't care.
Right.
But I don't know how my parents handled it because I'm miserable down there at this point
in my age.
And we'd go to Mammoth Cave, which was in Kentucky.
A lot of caving, a lot of speed lunging.
Speed lunging.
We did stuff.
What is speed lunging?
Speed lunging.
Speed lunging is cave exploring.
Oh yeah.
I like speed lunging.
I like it.
Tell you what, I've got to experience when I was in, I may have mentioned this before,
I was in El Taco and the place I worked at, Tejas Nightclub, my bar manager used to have
a CJ seven Jeep and my roommate and I, we went out into the deserts of El Paso and there
was this into some mine shaft and people die.
It was always exactly.
It was not safe.
But he had gone there before and so he had mapped, not mapped out, but he knew kind of
generally where we go.
And we went further when we should have gone.
But it doesn't matter.
So we had brought lights, we brought snacks and the idea was to go down there.
We went down so far into this place that you couldn't see your hand in front of your face.
Oh yeah.
Well, I thought you said you brought lights.
No, you turned the lights off.
You turned the lights off and I'm telling you, you couldn't see it was beyond black.
That's intense.
We're walking through these caverns, manmade caverns.
Okay.
And you know, because this is an old mine shaft and the whole ceiling was moving.
Why?
This mind you, the ceiling was like, you know, two feet above my head so I could touch it
if I wanted to.
The ceiling was moving and it turns out it was bats that were huddled together and there
were an abundance of them.
That could kill you too, it was a guano.
Well, that's just, I'm coming up to that.
So we go into this large room.
It was a big room.
It was, I don't know how, I want to say 100 foot in diameter-ish and it was tall.
It's a horrible idea.
There was a mountain of poop in the middle of the floor and that's how these cave people
dies a lot of times is because of the asphyxiation of the, it's ammonia.
Ammonia.
It's the ammonia releases in there.
But we weren't affected, thankfully.
But still, you know, we had gone through there and we were down there and you'd see like
old newspapers because they'd bring newspapers down there to wipe their ass.
It had shit on it?
You know, they were from the 60s so if there was shit on them, plus they were folded.
It wasn't like they were, you know.
Did you pull it out of Paul's trash can?
No.
Why would it be in my trash can?
I don't wipe my ass with poodles.
With poodle doodles in there?
Newspaper.
No, so, but it was kind of cool because, you know.
That was an unsolicited shot.
Oh, here we go.
So what people would do is they would take their lighter and, you know, believe it or
not, when you flick the lighter, it puts off, there's carbon that's released.
And then that sounds rhetorical.
You're like, of course there's rhetorical.
But you don't realize how much carbon is released.
And when I say carbon, I'm talking about soot.
So you would take a lighter and you put it on low and you hold it up to the ceiling of rock
and you could literally write your name in soot using the lighter.
And there are no airflow.
Like there's stagnant down there.
And I'm telling you, it was there was.
That sounds really dangerous.
It sounds dangerous, but at the same time, it was exhilarating, extremely tranquil.
Did you give me shit about climbing in the sewer?
That.
Why?
Well, yeah, I did.
Climbed.
I didn't have bat guano that could kill me.
Jeff, it was worse.
I mean, there were holes.
There were cutouts in the floor and there'd be these ladders that went down there.
We never we could have.
I wanted to.
Oh, you didn't go down the hole with the ladder.
We voted is me.
Oh, that'd been bad ass.
In fact, Steve, Steve, the doctor.
No, I won't say his last name.
Yeah, you know, I went down there and I mean, we've got stories.
This is true, man.
So he you know, I want to go down there.
I got outvoted.
What's his name?
Is Harvey Harvey Hall was his name.
He was the Harvey Hall and he was the manager of the Texas child, the Texas Jive.
And not that the Texas job.
It was the Texas nightclub.
That's what it was.
Yeah, that's exactly right.
It was a Texas nightclub.
Wow.
Anywho, the the the trip out there was was beautiful because this is just El Paso.
So that's like 12 hours away.
But still, it was you find him right there.
You find it.
No, no, it's it's you could.
Yeah, it's Stephen, the foot down there.
Did you mean Stephen?
And he was he's a lifelong friend.
So we went down there and I'll tell you what it was.
When I say it was it was so tranquil because it was so quiet.
Yeah.
All right.
So back it up.
So it was the the the cave stuff was very exciting.
I think so.
When you're talking about what would you call the cave thing?
Again, speed, speed, speed, speed, speed.
Man, that was the definition of speed, right?
Yeah, yeah, pretty much.
And well, I mean, speed, speed is supposed to be actually natural caves.
I don't think it's a caverns that were natural, though.
It's got my house.
You know, it was a mine shaft.
It had the the railroad ties and the whole nine yards going in there.
But once you got into a certain point,
there were natural caverns that you went through.
Like the large open room, I was telling you, where there's a pool of guano that that's real.
Right.
And it's extremely exciting.
And I'll tell you what, I never my friend Stephen was fucked and freaked out when
when the the bats were above us and I kept petting them because they didn't move.
But you could pet them and they were so furry, you know, that sounds like a horrible idea.
And they have lots of disease.
That sounds like the movie Aliens.
I'll tell you, get covid.
I was I was looking at my fingers and trying to part from that.
Yeah, those are those are.
That's why my immune system is so jacked up and rabies.
My immune system is like jacked up on Mountain Dew.
Where they got ready.
Were they vampire bats?
God, what a horrible idea.
But you know what?
Back then, whatever.
But why did you get freaked out?
You were petting the.
Well, well, because he was afraid of the bats.
Well, they could have been.
Yeah, because he's smart.
They could have been vampire bats.
They could have sucked all the bloods out.
You could have been all desiccated and laying down in there.
Desiccated.
Yes.
Wow.
That's pretty extreme.
Yeah, that's a isn't that the S.A.T.
word?
Yeah.
So we had a word we had a with paniculum.
It was a large, large, large.
Paniculum is a great ship, though.
I recommend it. I wish I was illegally going to the mines.
We're not going into a mine shaft.
Hey, man, you know what?
Do they do they have like the mine car you could.
Oh, that'd be fun.
Oh, my God.
I totally would have gone on that.
That was a Goonies or was it the Temple of Doom?
There's both.
Definitely Temple of Doom.
Yeah, Temple of Doom.
That was realistic.
Yeah, I could just see it now.
How did he die?
Oh, he went into a mine shaft.
They never came out.
Exfixiated.
Yeah, the bike guards.
And he leaves behind three boys.
And I would like to I wouldn't mind.
In fact, Steven, he probably he lives here in town, probably.
I saw that I said I need to I need to invite him out here and he needs to elaborate on
on that trip because I'm sure.
How did you guys meet in El Paso and you both ended up here in Texas?
Well, I moved I moved up here to Frisco with him and his family.
Really?
Yeah, because I happened to I worked I worked at a I was going to U.T.
I worked at the Olive Garden and Steve worked at the Olive Garden and we met, hung out.
And, you know, we're both white and everyone else is Hispanic.
I like that's a big deal.
I'm not saying anything, but it's just like, you know,
you grab a feather, your own type, bird and feather flock together, so to speak.
So we, you know, we do end up hanging out and went over to his house, but his mom's mom was pretty cool.
And was she hot?
No.
So she was like, hey, look, we're moving.
Robinson, she you see her naked.
It's kind of a trip.
His mom was kind of like, what's it called?
A self employed.
So she was an entrepreneur is what I'm trying to say is a free time had a business that she would run.
It was making magazines and oh, my God, it was some sort of illustration lingerie.
So we would sell there were magazines that they would distribute to hotels is the long story short.
So you go to a hotel.
This is what you do in Dallas.
Sort of.
Yeah.
And you would go to local vendors and say, hey, look, we're going to this.
This magazine is coming out every single month and we're going to put a magazine in every single room in
your hotel and just give me a list of your vendors and the vendors will pay for the publication.
Of course.
So you would go to the hotel, you get a list of the vendors, you get the vendors to pay, say, hey,
this is going to be in all the hotel rooms.
So that's how I got it was some sort of I forget the it was a it was a production company.
It was a printing press or whatever.
Right.
That's how I met.
That's what his mom was doing at the time.
And she says, hey, I got to go up to Dallas and we're going to move there because we've got some
business where she was buying all in El Paso.
This was in El Paso.
But Steve and I were end up we would end up traveling through Texas to these different hotels
selling.
Right.
And we'd stay at the hotels for free because they pay or something like that.
And but what his mom was doing, she was buying things in Mexico and she was delivering up
north in furniture stores.
It's called drugs.
It would be like the the vases, you know, the big vases, the wrought iron furniture,
and the big stuff.
And so she'd buy these big you haul trucks and we'd travel ship back and forth.
And we ended up moving up here and and after a while I got up here and one of my first
jobs up here was working at the on the border.
And then once I when you say here, it's not Frisco, Irving, Texas.
Exactly.
Irving.
So I got to Irving, Texas.
My first job was that was that on the border.
And so we're in a we're in a what year was this?
Ninety four eighty nine.
No, that was before I got that.
I was eighty eight.
It was eighty eighty eight eighty nine.
Yes, still in college at that point.
Yeah.
So it was a pretty just like, hey, that's a long time ago.
So I was in college.
I ended up having to move out of their place because, you know, I was I was young.
You know, I was meeting girls on the border and I was kind of like,
bring girls back.
And she was like, yeah, we're small apartment.
So we can hear you.
Yeah.
So Stephen, I ended up getting our own apartment.
Body smacking.
Yeah.
Why?
Yes.
Go ahead.
So we end up getting our apartment in whatever.
I can't do it.
I just hurt myself.
What are you doing?
I pinched my cheek to make that slapping noise and I and I hurt my cheek.
That moist, smacking noise.
Yeah.
Oh, I can't do it.
I just got dizzy.
We're old.
Paul's hurt himself.
Yeah.
Sean shakes his head.
He gets dizzy.
It hurts.
Yeah.
Whatever.
Back in my younger days, I could make that noise.
You think now the skin's looser?
It'd be easier to do.
You think so.
Anyway, sorry.
Wretched.
We're so old.
I'm so old.
Yeah.
All right.
Exciting.
Very, very, very exciting.
So you have to invite him over and.
Yeah.
We'd like to meet him.
Yeah, we'll see.
This is your lifelong friend.
We've never even I've never even heard.
I don't talk to him once.
I talked to him about three years ago.
And he's in Frisco.
Yeah.
I don't know where he's at right now.
He had a dog.
He had a he had an office here, an optometry office here.
But he and his wife owned.
But she ended up cheating on him.
So he divorced her.
Oh.
Yeah, it's kind of sad.
Why haven't you been in touch with him, though?
Life is busy.
Oh, OK.
All right.
You know, he's got a he's single.
He's always been one of these guys.
It's kind of like, you know, I'm I don't you know,
I'm just he's going to grab life by the tail and just shake it up.
And he's always been like that.
So he always has some hot Latina chick and goes down to he's in fact,
I think he had some sort of real estate license in Mexico, of all places.
He sold property in Mexico or something like that.
You know, he's like, fuck it.
I'm going to stay here in Mexico.
So I don't know what he's doing now.
Well, they have no interesting.
It was interesting.
But he's we had fun El Paso in the the the the canyons.
So he's looking the speed, Lunkin.
I'm telling you, man, it was caves here in Texas that we can go.
Yeah, I'm not interested in doing the tight.
Narrow.
Well, bullshit.
Well, I mean, it depends on how narrow.
I mean, you don't want to get stuck.
I don't like that guy that got stuck head head.
Oh, my God.
That is tragic.
That's tragic.
I don't want to talk about that.
What happened in that?
Sir, no, we went through a long story that we sure did.
I do not want to go back because it's sad.
It's sad.
Basically, the dude got stuck upside down and he became inflated by his own body fluids
and he got too big to pull out.
He keeps and they couldn't get him out.
They couldn't get him.
Nothing they could do.
He is still there.
They sealed up the hole.
He is still there.
He's entombed.
It's sad.
And he's a young guy with like young kids and a wife.
Oh, yeah, you got stuck upside down.
Yeah, that's awful.
Sorry, I didn't mean to.
Well, you know, so that's what I love.
I could happen if we go.
I enjoy the caves.
I'm not interested in that either.
I wouldn't mind going back.
I really wouldn't mind.
If you want to go do some some caves, though, I just don't want to go to something like
I wouldn't mind going to Carlsbad Caverns, but I don't want to go to some big commercialized cave.
I want to have an adventure.
Yeah, something low key.
Live life on the edge a little bit.
Say if you cross this line, you may die, but we won't know because no one visits here.
You know, one of those kind of places.
Perfect.
And then we end up upside down.
Yes.
No, we know.
Hey, Shelley.
Yeah, he's upside down in the cavern.
They sealed it.
Jeff left.
We'll never see it again.
Great.
Or you can see the soles of his boots.
Jesus.
God, who hurt you?
We end on a sour dark note.
That was way to go, Sean.
Wow, we covered a lot.
Way to go, Paul.
Why?
No, I didn't mean to cover something horrible.
Way to go, Jeff.
Gee.
All right.
Well, you know, thanks for joining us.
What I missed.
Yeah, dudeslikeus.us.
Hi, my name's Sean.
I'm Paul.
And I'm Jeff.
And it's the first week of football.
We're fracking excited.
We jammed down on some bourbons, some dope bourbon and some mulch.
Ah, not charter.
Old Forrester.
Correct.
Old Forker.
It was actually not that bad.
What a good night.
It was good.
Thanks for hanging with us.
Yeah, dead people.
Good night.