Boom, boom, boom, boom. Don't we need to switch
to a Jingle Bell type intro? Since we're so close
to Christmas. Mele Kalikimaka is the thing to
say. Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. On this wild
and grand old Christmas day. We need to get a
real Christmas song, though. That's the kind
of free greetings that we give to you. On this
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will be green and bright. The sun shines by day
and all the smooths by night. Maka Leki Maka
is Hawaii's way to say Merry Christmas to you.
All right, dudes, I guess I'm Sean. I'm Paul.
And I'm Jeff. And Chuck is like, what the fuck
just happened? All right, well, I just realized
we weren't going to be doing a podcast next week,
so we had to knock something out there. Thank
you, Chuck, our producer, Dudes Like Us. It is
December 16th, second week, the second half of
the podcast. It is. Check us out on Facebook
and Instagram, Dudes Like Us. We just had Ann
Anderson on. Yeah, it was a great guest. She's
a rock star. It was smart. A rising Republican.
Oh, yes. We didn't even talk about Republican
or Democrat. We just kind of talked about the
issues, which is what it should be. It should
be. God bless. It was good. January 14th, early
voting. Yeah. And I tell you what, I mean, it's
not - People need to vote. It's not a small deal
to be a city council member of a quarter million
dollar, I mean, quarter million people - City.
City. Yeah. That's not insignificant. Knowing
a few of them, it's really stressful. Yeah. But
if anybody can handle it, it's Ann. Nice. Well,
she seemed very confident. She certainly had
the background and the business background and
acumen. What do our city council members get
paid? Not much. I was going to say, I looked
at that once. It's a part -time job. It's a stipend.
I looked at it once for the cities, and it was
really surprising on how little mayors and city
council actually get paid. It's like a side.
It's almost like a volunteer gig. Yeah, and you
usually have a job alongside of it, right? Correct.
I mean, you've got to be passionate to do this
stuff. You have to really care about where your
city's going and want to make a difference. Or
you're looking at it as a stepping stone. Right.
I want to get here so I can get here, then here,
then here. And that's the start of my political
career. Correct. I did ask her that, and she
was like, no, I'm not thinking that. I really
just want to make a difference. And she also
shared that she thinks she's not that. If you
are doing that and it's just a stepping stone
that it's not, you're not sincerely filling that
spot to do a job because you care about the moment.
Right. It's just a way to get a path. Right.
And you're doing an injustice to the citizens
of the city. Right. And all you're doing is,
you know, brown nosing. the people, the next
where you want to go, right? If you want to get
into state politics, then you're brown nosing
the people that are going to get you there, right?
I did want to talk about that because we have
some people that did move on from Frisco City
Council up to bigger, you know, roles. Pat Fallon
is a congressman and he does a fantastic job.
And I appreciate the time he spent on the Frisco
City Council. He was a smart guy there. He's
a smart guy in actually in the House of Representatives.
He's one of my favorite representatives. Nice.
Okay. He goes on. And, uh, no, he's on mornings
with Maria all the time and he's very eloquent
and he's, you know, he can talk about issues
and I'm kind of proud that he's, he moved his
way up. And you can see the rising stars that
come out of there. You know, um, the guy that's
running for mayor, he, uh, actually tried to
run for state rep, I think. And, and then he
went back to the council because he didn't qualify.
Right. Or he didn't, he didn't get elected. Right.
So that him moving up to mayor kind of. Makes
a little sense to me because he's always had
aspirations, right? Yeah. He's ready to take
on a different role. He's already been in the
city council. Some of these guys get termed out
and they just go back to doing what they're doing
and some of them want to keep going. There's
nothing wrong with that. Especially if you have
the bandwidth and you have the funds because
to get there, you don't make a lot of money.
So you've got to have deep pockets. I mean, if
you're doing a great job and you're changing
people's lives or making a difference, I mean,
I could definitely see it being rewarding and
fulfilling. And so you want to keep doing it,
right? There's nothing wrong with that, I guess.
I mean, but you're right, Chuck. We've been pretty
critical, like Biden, right? Biden's been in
office for 40, 50 years. Yeah, but that's different.
Well, is it? I mean, you start somewhere and
then you continue, keep doing it and you keep
doing it. Well, I think that goes back to term
limits. I don't think you need to be senator
for... 40 years. I agree. The city council people
have, the members have term limits too, and the
mayor has term limits, and we're going to term
out of the mayor. We've termed out of a couple
of city councilmen. We're going to term out of
more as we go along. And that takes care of itself.
It does. It really does. That's because of the
corruption. They don't sit there. Right. Unless
you have term limits, corruption and motivation
and it completely skews everything. Yeah, I mean,
if you become a senator, that's almost at the
top. And it's a lifetime. Well, not necessarily.
It can be. As long as you keep getting elected.
Yeah. It can be. It can be, but it's not a guarantee.
Well, not like Supreme Court justice, but. Right.
But again, they're never going to vote for it,
but I think there needs to be term limits. They
have to vote for it themselves to give themselves
term limits. No, they won't. They won't do that.
That would be a constitutional convention. Yeah,
constitutional convention. Well, that's probably
even harder. No? Well, I mean... What do you
need, two -thirds of the states? Well, yeah.
And three -quarters to ratify. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Any amendment that you propose to Congress or
to the states, there's different avenues. There's
two avenues. Congress submits an amendment proposal.
Or this Convention of States. Correct. Now, the
process to get the amendment through the states
and through the process is the same. But the
founders knew. They knew. They were so smart.
They knew that there was a potential for Congress
to never curb their own power. Right? Because
they're going to be there forever. They want
to be there forever. So they came up with a second
avenue for producing, for submitting amendments
that... Well, who votes on the amendments? The
state legislatures? So what is the process with
the conventions of states? So we want to do this.
Do we just rally it up and say, hey, we want
to vote? There is an organization that has been
doing this for years. They do mock conventions.
They've already done it, and there's like 37
states have signed up for this mock convention,
and they go through the process just like they
did when they were wearing wigs and shit. They
don't wear wigs and stuff. No, they should. You
know what I mean? They should. I agree. They
should bring the wigs back. But no, seriously,
and they go through the process, and all the
states get together, and they propose amendments,
and they vote on them. It's a mock thing, but
they're doing it to go through. Is there a specific
amendment they're wanting to? There are. And
one of them is term limits. Yeah, you can start
with term limits. I want term limits first. Term
limits is one of them. A balanced budget is one
of them. Having term limits on the Supreme Court
justices is another one that's been thrown around.
Is there any anticipation of this actually happening?
There is. Not an organization. Well, I guess
it's the COTS, the Convention of States something.
I'm on their group text, and they say, hey, don't
forget to, because here's another challenge.
To be involved in this group or be involved in
that process, the state legislature has to put
language in their constitution to participate
in it. And I think they have 34 states now out
of 50 that have put it in there. This is going
to happen. Eventually, it's going to happen.
Now, are they going to successfully ever pass
an amendment? I don't know. But are they going
to actually get to a point where they hold an
official? Convention. Convention and actually
propose amendments that do or don't make it.
I think it is true. Could you imagine the hysteria
by some of the long -term Senate and congressional
folks if that got voted on? Yeah. Boy, they'd
be. Yep. Lobbying hard. Oh, yeah. They'd be...
But remember, it's not a federal thing. It's
a state thing. That's what I mean. That's what
I mean. Boy, they'd be trying to lobby all those
states and just... And using their influence
to shut it down. You know it. You're not going
to get your money this time. Lawsuits. Oh, God.
Ah, fuck. Fear. People will die. You're killing
grandma. Absolutely. Killing grandma, I think,
would be the first argument they'd make. We already
killed them off with COVID, didn't we? Yes. The
ones that were left, unfortunately. Disgusting.
I don't even want to weigh in because it's so
frustrating. Yeah. So don't. Don't weigh in.
Let's talk about something fun. How about that
skydiver that jumped out of the freaking airplane?
That was fun. Okay. Yeah, let me see this video
that Paul was hyping up. Dude, it's... I mean,
imagine being this guy. He jumps out of an airplane,
his parachute gets caught on the wing, and he's
dangling like Tom Cruise behind the airplane.
This is nuts. Watch this. He goes, he jumps.
Uh -oh. He's like, what's going on? No, no, watch
this. Now, the rest of these guys are like, okay,
we've got to go. Okay, and they're like, oh,
fuck him, we're out of here. What were they going
to do? How is his chute deployed that early?
Oh, he hit his feet, too. Yeah, so he's just
dangling there, and the rest of these guys are
jumping out. Well, what if they ran into him?
I know. So now he's using a tool to cut each
string. Is that a good tool? It's got to be.
It's got to be in every stocking stuffer this
year. Why is he bouncing around? Well, because
it's one after another. He's letting each string
go. I think I just probably want to shit. Would
that have helped you? I don't know. I think I
probably would have, though. Well, he probably
did. He would have gummed up the razor. He survived.
He had a backup. Yeah, so he cut it loose, and
there's the parachute still on the wing, the
tail wing. Dude, fascinating story, man. He lived,
and it was all good. It looks like that wing
on the backside is fractured a little bit. Look,
he hits his ankles. Does he? Boom! Oh, he did!
Oh, great. So both his ankles are broken. Yeah,
his ankles are probably broken. His Achilles
are snapped. So I wonder, did he make... So the
other guys are not pulling their... Here's slow
-mo. You'll see it. Oh, so somehow... Boom! Somehow
he pulled his... He had a premature ejaculation.
Perishutilation? Yeah. Let's roll with that.
Anyway, it's cool. I mean, and it's a great story
because he lived. Yeah, well, you see him struggling,
and the more of those little strings that he
cuts, the more buoyant he becomes. Yes, the crazier
it gets. He starts bouncing around. Imagine if
he dropped the tool or something. Oh, yeah. Right?
I mean, after he's getting bounced around. Boy,
you're showing different videos now. Hopefully
it's not one of somebody like going all the way
to the bottom. Do you ever see the video of the
guy who jumps out of the plane and he forgot
he didn't have a parachute on? I heard about
it. That's actual thing. I know. Did he follow
his death or something? Yeah, he died. Oh, okay.
I thought it was like there's a guy, Travis Pastrami
or something like that, that he jumps out without
the parachute and then somebody else jumps out
with one and then they link up later. Oh, no,
that was Moonraker. Moonraker? No, this guy jumped
out and he just, he's like, shit, I don't have,
he fell and died. Wasn't that Moonraker? Somebody,
Jaws was. Jaws. Yeah, they called him Jaws. He
had big metal teeth. Yeah, big metal teeth. Yes.
And he jumped out and like somebody, yeah, James
Bond put his arms together and his feet together.
And he steers himself left and right and he grabs
Jaws from behind and I don't know what they were
doing up there. You're going like 300 miles an
hour. I know, it's crazy. What's terminal velocity?
302. I think you pulled that out of your ass.
Roger Moore. I want to say 277. Roger Moore didn't
even have a mask on. So you can imagine, he's
got to barely have his eyes open. And he had
those jowls, too. So it was probably like a hound
dog, you know? Pretty sure it was a stunt double,
but yeah. It was real. Roger Moore. 120. All
65 of him. 120 miles an hour. That's it? Terminal
velocity? According to this AI. Oh, that's nothing.
You don't even need a parachute for that. Do
you ever see those nude skydivers? Oh. Are they
flopping around at 120 miles an hour? Can you
imagine the friction involved in that? Imagine
you're nutsack. What YouTube channel do you subscribe
to? Sean sent it to me. That might be the most
legitimate thing you've said already tonight.
That is totally believable. The chick's boobs
are like all... concave. Okay, that's disgusting.
We're not talking about this. Why are we talking
about nude skydiving? John? Thanks, John. What
will do skydiving? The chicks are running, jumping
out. Why are they making that? Oh, it's like
a bottle. And the only way it stops is when they
scissor. God. What just happened? What do you
mean? Oh, my God. What do you mean? Like midair,
120 miles per hour. You mean like scissor their
parachute? Do you realize this is the first podcast
after Ann's been on the podcast? So people who
are like, we love that podcast. Thanks for sticking
around. This is the one they're going to listen
to. Thanks for sticking around. So maybe we don't
talk about scissors. Thanks for stopping by.
Yeah, let's not talk about scissors. Let's talk
about Atlantic narco subs. Have you heard about
this? I have not. So they got the narco subs
now? Well, there's already been subs. There's
already been narco subs. that have been reaching
the United States. Now there's narco subs that
apparently, I mean, this is pretty impressive.
They're making it across the Atlantic and reaching
Portugal and, you know, obviously getting into
Europe. And they're saying it's a huge problem.
Huge problem. Is this a new problem or is this
something? Apparently it's new because they're
not equipped for it. Right. You made that comment
during the green room session. Like you were
saying, wow, so we're steering them away from
the United States because we're sinking them.
at least blowing up the boats, but maybe we're
steering these towards Europe. I don't know.
I think they've always been a problem. I don't
know. Part of me doesn't care. I mean, look,
everyone's got their problems. You don't care
about Europe's problems. It's not that I don't
care about it. It's just like, hey, look, man,
they got to deal with it. Join the fight. Yes.
Let's go. Let's put these things to the bottom
of the ocean, man, and all the people that are
running them. Sorry. I don't have a lot of sympathy,
but I will tell you, man, my coworkers, they,
you know. Are they have sympathy for the narcos?
No, they're buying into their fishermen. Oh,
wow. A lot of fish on those. They're shipwrecked.
Because, you know, there's a TikTok out there
that talks about, you know, the family that lost
their father who was a fisherman and he was on
this boat. And I'm like, dude, really? You believe
TikTok? I don't. I'm frustrated. I mean, they're.
I know they're watching MS now. And who knows?
They may be fishermen. Their side hustle is to
get shipped from left to right. Here's the sad
thing. Maybe they're taking fishermen and they're
saying, you're going to drive this boat across
the Caribbean, the Gulf of America, or we're
going to kill your family. Yeah, we always talked
about collateral damage or people that were coerced
into doing it. They had human shields on the
boat. Let's talk about that. What do you do?
Yeah, you take out the boat because the collateral
damage happens. When they destroyed the Death
Star, did they worry about the guy installing
the plumbing? No, they didn't. No, they were
still building it, right? They had contractors.
Never talk about the Death Star plumber. That
is such a good point, Chuck. He's installing
a toilet, and all of a sudden, boom, here comes
Luke Skywalker blowing up his whole bed. And
you know what? You brought something up in the
green room, and I was rather taken back by that.
Because you were saying something about this
past week. You were out of town, and you were
listening to, you logged on to Disney Channel,
and you watched Empire Strikes Back. Not on the
Disney Channel, but it was offered on the free.
For the first time ever. No. No, I've seen it
before. Oh. But I'll tell you what. They had
everything except the new episodes, like the
ones with my favorite. With Rey? Yeah, Rey. I
like Rey. She's my favorite. Anyway. You're gay.
Not in a weird. Oh. Oh. Yeah. Is she a man? Yes.
Anyways. She's a man? No, she's not a man. When
did that happen? All right. So you were watching
Empire Strikes Back, and you brought up a very
specific part about it. I was just surprised.
So I was watching Empire Strikes Back. I watched
Empire Strikes Back. Quality movie, by the way.
Really good. You know what? The Empire Strikes
Back, in my opinion, has got to be one of the
best ones. It might have been the best one. Yes,
I agree. And then there were some flaws in Return
of the Jedi. Ewoks. Yeah, the Ewoks bothered
me. Just like Big Eared. Jar Jar? Jar Jar Binks.
He bothered me too. They should have killed him
early. Jar Jar Binks. Right away. Should have
opened it with him ambassador. Anyway. I know
you got bothered by my comment. All right. So
they go to Jabba. They're trying to rescue Han
Solo. He's in the cryo chamber thing. And then
they have Princess Leia. They kidnapped Princess
Leia too. And she's in this, you know, I get
it. She's a slave girl. Okay. She's in this skimpy,
skimpy outfit. Do we know if she ever was like,
yeah? I see no problem with that. Well, okay,
I don't either. I'm a man. I look at that. I'm
like Carrie Fisher Young in that outfit. I'm
like, yeah, that's some good stuff. But I just
wondered, did she ever report later in life like,
yeah, I'm not sure why they needed to do that?
I felt uncomfortable. I was imagining that there
could have been some issues there. So look, it's
a symbol of power control, for one. Okay. Jabba,
he's got to assert his authority. I'm not saying
from that perspective. Of course. Humiliation
and degradation. It made total sense in the storyline.
But how did she feel? Carrie Fisher, the actress.
She's an actress. Why do we care? I know. Well,
hold on. I'm asking. I'm just asking. Did she
ever say that she had... Why don't you look it
up, Mr. Producer? Dude, she's hot. You think
she didn't want... I mean, look. Hold on. What
was that title? Let's go back up. Even before
I knew what sexual objectification was, the Leia
bikini thing made me really uncomfortable as
a kid. Well, well, well. I knew it. I was watching
it. That's the person who wrote the article.
No, that's her quote. No, no, no, no. Because
she wasn't a kid back then. Ah, here we go. Carrie
Fisher herself criticized the outfit, warning
new Star Wars actor Daisy Ridley. Don't be a
slave like I was. You keep fighting against that
slave outfit. Boom. All right. Well, look, we
liked it. I know. I did, too. And besides, the
bikini is like practicality for captivating.
I think you're being a feminist. I'm not. Dude,
I'm just. You're a feminist. Maybe at my age
now we've got sons and we've got daughters. And,
you know, at that end, they were her age. I think
your coworkers are getting to you. I don't think
so. I don't think so. I don't think so. They
hate Star Wars. Behind the scenes, from a filmmaking
perspective, George Lucas and the designers created
the costume to fill a request from Carrie Fisher
herself. Fisher had previously complained that
her costumes in the first two films were so bulky
and modest that audiences couldn't tell she was
a woman. And Lucas obliged by creating a slave
girl aesthetic inspired by classic pulp science
fiction and fantasy art. I call this... Where
are you getting this? I have got it straight
from the Star Wars Bible. Oh, my God. This is
the gospel. I don't believe that. He read it
on Wookieepedia. I don't know. And maybe she
thought, okay, it was a good idea at the time,
and then later she thought about it. Well, there
may be some regrets now. I bet at the time she
was like, I'm looking hot. Well, hell, there's
a lot of porn stars that are like, I can't believe
I did that. She wore basically a sheet the first
two movies. She did, and she wasn't allowed to
wear undergarments. That's because she was kind
of like, we couldn't afford that. Are you being
serious right now? Yeah. No, she's braless. Oh,
shut up. They couldn't wear undergarments. 100
% true. No, they weren't allowed to. I'm telling
you. So even Luke? Do you hear how absurd that
sounds, Sean? You're telling me that despite
underwear and bras being available in life, they
couldn't wear them on set? That sounds crazy.
During the filming. Because she had brought this
up. In fact, it was a joke on several interviews
after all this happened, including right before
she died. They always like, yeah, the budget
didn't include a lot of clothes for me. I had
to wear, like, she just had a pullover on there.
She didn't have, like, the correct stuff underneath.
And it was cold all the time. What, marking?
I'm sure she had underwear on. She had underwear
on. Her own underwear. I'm just conveying what.
I think you heard that and you were like, oh,
she had nothing. She's nude underneath. She's
nude under there. You say it so much better.
Say it again. Say it again, Jeff. Say it in your
radio voice. You're good. Okay. That's just too
bad. While the costume remains a staple of pop
culture, the Star Wars community and Lucasfilms
have shifted toward calling the outfit the Hutt's
Slayer costume. Emphasizes... Leia's agency and
her eventual victory when she used the very chain
Jabba used to enslave her by strangling the death
of - She killed him. Yeah. She's in good shape
there. At the Great Pit of Carcoon. And he was,
what, probably 2 ,000 pounds? Look at that stomach.
He was a big slug. A gigantic slug with big eyes.
It had been a long time since I watched that
movie, and I'll be honest with you, I probably
have watched it three times in my entire life.
Oh, dude. Yeah. Come on. Yeah. I'm not going
to lie. You're not a real dude like us. Oh. Are
you kicking me off the podcast? You need at least
20 more times. We're here to think. Look at the
Lego piece of that. They got a Lego. Oh, no.
Yeah, they made a Lego out of it. How can it
be that bad? Damn it. We're not filming. I can't
splice this in. Yeah, go on the far left. She's
on some sort of table. She's all beaving it.
Nice beaver. Wow. Oh, I can't say scissor, but
he can say beaving. Okay. Really? Why am I picked
on? I was about to say something. I am constantly
picked on and mocked mercilessly. Oh, is that
Winnie from Wonder Years? Yeah, it's Danica McKellar.
Went as Slave Leia. Nice. I don't know. She's
actually brilliant. It was a sign of the times.
Whether she regretted it, I'm sure she did after
the fact, but the fact of the matter. She was
like 18 or 19 years old. So she's saying she
was old enough. Whoa. I mean, I don't know. I
mean, I don't get into that stuff. I hear you.
I hear you. All right. Well, you know, there
you go. Any new Star Wars stuff coming out? I
thought they were coming out with the child.
The Boba Fett child? The Mandalorian and Baby
Yoda. Grogu. Grogu, yeah. Mandalorian and Grogu
is coming out. Yes. There are so many things
I haven't seen that you guys have. like the side
stories and the side... I think they're all terrific.
Every single one of them, as controversial and
absurd as they may be, I enjoy them all. There's
so much I can watch. I'm excited because I have
fallen behind. And frankly, some of them are
a little frustrating because when Disney purchased
the Star Wars, they made it woke. You know, and
you can tell, but, you know, if you can kind
of... You fight through it. Yeah, you just fight
through it and just kind of like, ugh, that's
so stupid. Some of it was good. I mean, Andor
was great. Andor was really good. I'm not even
sure I saw that. You need to watch that. That's
really good. Are you kidding me? I would say
Andor is probably one of my favorites. Is it
a movie or a show? It's a TV show. It's a series.
Watch Andor. Watch Andor and then watch Rogue
One. Rogue One. Go straight into it. Yeah, those
are back to back. So Rogue One is the one where
they go to the lady that she's little and she's
got like a little eye thing. And they talked
about the robot being like totally woke, ruined
the movie. No, no, no. That was Solo. I'm sorry.
That was Solo. Oh. Yeah, that was Solo. But I
saw Solo and it has that really cute girl in
it. What's her name? Yeah, but there was... Yes.
Daenerys Targaryen. Daenerys. She's in it. She's
so cute. Anyway, and I saw the robot, and yes,
it said some stupid things, but it didn't ruin
the movie. It didn't ruin it. Exactly. It totally
over -exaggerated the wokeness. A lot of folks
do that. I know that. I hate that. I think they
overdo it, and they're stupid. Well, she was
using the... androids or the robots as a comparison
to black slavery when she was in that bar and
she was like I get it you know whatever but I
just steamrolled right past it it didn't bother
me it didn't change the storyline it's all good
I mean they can slip in I tell you what every
show I watch they slip in something they do seriously
well maybe if Paramount buys Warner Brothers
maybe that'll go away right I mean, they're constantly
slipping in little shots at this and shots at
that. I'm like, come on. I enjoy watching Solo.
I tell you, I've probably watched Solo a dozen
times, at least. Okay, so after I watched, now
that I'm going to, I don't know how often I'm
going to Albuquerque, but it's like the only
time I can just watch what I want to watch, you
know what I mean, with nothing around me, and
I can focus, you know, because there's so many
things that we watch. But anyway. I'm looking
forward to catching up on some of this Star Wars
shit. You got a lot of Star Wars you can watch.
Actually, it's not offered on American Airlines.
It's just some of them. Well, just download it.
I don't know how to do that. You need to show
me how to do that. I mean, you can go to any,
whatever you've got. Download the Disney one.
You can download it on your phone. From Disney
Plus? I think you can, yeah. Just hit download
and you can watch it while you're on the plane.
You don't have to stream it. No shit. Netflix
you can do that with as well. And Amazon. What
the hell? You guys need to show me how to do
this. It's probably not complicated. You just
open it. It says download. Can you download it?
Walk me through that again. And it's not something
that you can take off your phone and expect to
transfer it over to your computer. No, I don't
want to do that. It's in -app stuff only. And
it times out after like 14 days or something
like that. Dude, I'm in. 30 days. Dude, I've
got every streaming service you can imagine.
Right? I should be able to. Look at shit whenever
I want. Well, no, I don't have that. Is that
a streaming service? That doesn't work in Texas
anymore. Oh. Do share. That happened about a
year or so ago. How do you know that? It was
in the news. Oh. I think they did all pornographic
websites. Correct. Well, I have - They blocked
it. I've got 18 of them that you guys can go
to that I have a list here. You want to know
them? No. I'm kidding. RedTube. Oh, what's that?
Oh, yeah. You remember you and I were talking
about it. I don't remember what it was. And here's
Sean over here. I don't know what that is. I've
never heard of that. I've never heard of that
one. I find that behavior despicable. You talking
about the grinder? Did you remember that? You
and I were calling total bullshit. We're like,
oh, really? You were talking about grinder, and
I had not heard of it prior to that day. You'd
never heard of that. Why would I have heard of
grinder? Because we could make jokes about it
all the time. That's why. Why would we hear about
it? Right. Go, Chuck. Yeah, that's true. I don't
pay attention too much. I stay in my little bubble.
I don't understand a lot. It confuses me. I thought
Grindr was a coffee website. Yeah. There you
go. Coffee lovers. So those narco subs, to finish
up on that topic, they were reportedly traveling
across the Atlantic. Yeah, which is impressive.
And hooking up on the... You know, South Europe,
essentially. You know where they got their technology
is from that Titanic sub. That blew up? The one
that... They only go 10 feet under the surface,
though? Is it too soon? Is it too soon to make
fun of that idiot? Have you watched that documentary?
No. That guy who owned that company was a megalomaniac.
A loony. Yeah, he was... It's all on him. I know.
100%. And it's tragic. He killed a billionaire
and his son and two other people. Yeah. And himself.
And himself. Idiot. Anyway, I didn't mean to
bring that up. There were actually bolts that
weren't fastened. I mean, how can you do? There
were so many problems. It kept failing testing.
And every time an engineer said, this is not
good. It failed the test. They fired him. Yes.
Right. Yes. And he would not get it certified
by the official. submarine certifiers? He's like,
yeah, we're not going to do that because we're
different. Because we're so sure. He is so sure.
I don't need that certification. It's made out
of 100 % graphite or whatever they made, fiberglass
or whatever. It's unbelievable that that can
even happen in this day and age. It's unbelievable.
There's the ocean gate. Yeah. Watch that documentary.
Yeah, it's made out of fiberglass, right? Yeah,
and they kept testing it and they kept failing
and they kept failing and they kept failing.
And eventually it really failed. It failed, yep.
And squash them in nanoseconds. Thank God. No
kidding. I'm with you there. Thank God. The only
saving grace of this whole horrific story is
that they died as quickly as possible. You don't
think it was like a 10 -minute process? No. Ow,
my arms. Ow. Ow. I'm getting flat. Ow. My left
shoulder. Stop touching me. Ow. No, they didn't
know what happened. That's pretty dark humor.
Yeah, they didn't know what happened to them.
Pretty dark humor. Which is a good thing. The
fact that the Navy heard it and recognized it.
They did. Yeah, whenever it was like they're
going to send ships down there or subs down there
to see if they can be rescued, maybe we're at
the bottom. And they withheld. The Navy didn't
say anything about it, but they're like later
they said, yeah, we heard it go. We know what
that sound is. Well, in that documentary, you'll
see the footage of his wife and one of the engineers
sitting there at the radio trying to talk to
him. Oh, no. And they'll go, what was that sound?
Oh, no. And then nothing. Nothing. And they were,
like, trying to raise. So they heard it. Oh,
no. I don't think they knew what they heard,
though. That's disgusting. So, yeah, you see
them. Because they weren't worried or anything.
They were trying to get a hold of them. Oh, yeah,
we have some radio issues. They heard a pop and
then nothing. Okay, gross story. That's crazy.
Now, when we were talking about the EU suing
X, you guys had mentioned something about that.
I didn't understand what you were talking about.
What is going on with the EU suing X? So because
Elon Musk refused to censor certain speech on
X, EU has censorship rules. And he's refusing
to do them, so they're suing him for like hundreds
of millions of dollars? $140 million. $140 million.
All right, read the story, Jeff. It says, key
issues and fines, misleading blue checks. X was
fined for deceptive practices allowing users
to buy verification, leading to impersonation
and scams, which the EU sees as a consumer protection
failure. Advertising repository. The platform
was penalized. Repository. Suppository. Not a
suppository. Yeah, no, sorry. The platform was
penalized for poor, what does it say? For poor
ad transparency, lacking crucial data for researchers
to scrutinize potential risks. Really? In online
ads. You know, Facebook's getting sued for that,
too. In Europe. I don't really have a problem
with the issues. It's just... I mean, they've
got to do something about it. I mean, I don't
think suing them is the issue. Is $140 million
enough? Well, they're trying to make it painful
enough for them to make changes. Yeah, but it's
never going to fly. But that goes for any lawsuit
with punitive damage, right? You hear about a
story of somebody winning $10 million, and then
they add $700 million to the corporation. Yeah,
I hear you. It's punitive damage. I would never
extend any line of bullshit to the UK. Or you
or any of that. They can go fuck themselves.
This is the EU. I agree with you on that. Forget
that. I mean, they've lost all credibility. If
they don't want it, don't download it. Exclude
it from being available. They can do that. Right.
They can make that happen. If you really want
to hurt X, take X away from the EU. Make it unavailable.
Well, I mean, but then again, they have 800 million
subscribers that are on X. They're trying to
exude their will, force their will on Elon Musk,
but they don't want to upset the apple cart with
all their hundreds of millions of subscribers.
Anyway, that's an interesting thing. Is there
a new update on it? I don't think so. These things
take years and years, right? It'll fizzle out,
but at the same time, it brings up some popular
things. I mean, why are people being able to
buy blue checks? Yeah, that's not cool. I mean...
But I thought it was... The bigger issues was
censorship. Like, they were not... Well, I say
censorship. No, it says... They are not restricting
what they consider misinformation. No, it says
specifically these three, the misleading blue
checks, the advertising suppository, and then
data access. X hindered researchers' ability
to access public data, violating transparency
requirements. So basically, X says... And this
is just a fine. It's not even a lawsuit. It's
already been fined. They just ruled it. Okay,
so are you sure there isn't an active lawsuit
out there? Is this old findings that ultimately
led to a lawsuit? Maybe are we... It's just bullshit.
So where do you draw the line? How far do you
go back? I mean, do you go back to Twitter when
they were saying a bunch of fake shit? No, you
go back to MySpace. Right. Oh my God. Does that
still exist? I don't know. I think it does. I
think it does. Does it really? Is it kind of
like net zero? They have dial up. They have dial
up. You know, my father, my father who, you know,
God rest his soul. He had Netflix, uh, net zero
dial up, uh, not dial up, but, uh, you know,
you remember the old AOL? Yes. AOL. Yeah. He
had that email and there, there are people sitting
in a basement somewhere keeping this company
alive, like for people like my father. who, you
know, in their 80s with the original email. I
mean, crazy. There are people that have the same.
I mean, once you get stuck on something, it's
kind of sticky, right? Why change it? But the
thing is, he's paying for it. Like, he's paying
for email. Net zero email. So this MySpace, what
is this? I think it's kind of morphed into a
place for... content producers and musicians
and artists to go and just kind of have a page.
There's nothing wrong with that. So does ACDC
have a page? That's a good question. That's your
go -to? What about KISS? What about Ozzy Osbourne?
All right, here we go. We're looking up MySpace
ACDC. It's slow. Oh, they need more horsepower?
It's not. They need to get the data center guy
out there. No, I don't think they do. More computing
power. Oh, the ACDC does not have anything on
Microsoft. The ACDC does not have anything. But
Ace Frehley has one. Nope. Oh. Oh. Sorry, we're
just experiencing, what did it say? We're just
experiencing shittiness because we have no money.
Well, it's crazy because they used to have fun.
I had a MySpace. I didn't do a whole lot with
it because, you know, I was kind of ignorant
and, you know, I didn't know. Hell, I didn't
know what Facebook was. In fact. Was there a
lot to do? Yeah, you could make your own stuff.
You could do your own GIFs on there. Yeah, you
could program stuff into the page and have it
play music or whatever. That was a lot of fun.
Yeah, a little bit. And then what happened? Well,
no, Facebook took over. Yeah, Facebook kind of
exploded. Yeah, everybody said, why are you still
in MySpace? Go to Facebook, and everybody's on
there. You know what's funny is that we did our
paintball stuff, right? And when Facebook first
came out, For some reason, I have a picture of
my buttocks. What? Somebody took a picture of
my butt. Somebody? Like your crack on Facebook?
It was just a picture of my butt cheeks only.
So you couldn't see my shorts. No danglage? No.
No, none of that. I was peeing by the side of
Mark Levinka's house. We were in Pottsboro. Right.
Did you yank your pants all the way down or something?
No. But your ass was hanging out? They sent me
a text message or text picture of that. You have
a lot of questions. And I took the picture and
I put it on Facebook as my profile pic. Okay.
Oh, great idea. Well, back then, and you know
what? If a friend, if you're my friend, my friends
see your ass. Yes, which happened. It happened.
They told me, they're like, by the way, you've
got a friend whose ass is on your wall. And I
was like, what wall? What's a wall? What is Facebook?
What are you talking about? I didn't understand
any of that because it was all so new. I just
thought it was like, well, only people that I'm
friends with can see it. I'm only friends with
a couple people, so I don't care. That wasn't
true at all. Everyone could see that I had butt
cheeks as my profile pic. And your friend also
sent a message to me, Sean, do you realize that
everybody on the planet can see your butt cheeks?
And you're like, I'm very proud of my ass. No,
I was just like, I didn't know that. I changed
it. It's so bad. It's so bad. It's so complicated
that you don't know who's who. Well, back then,
new technology. When I get on Facebook, I get
confused. I don't know. So I stay away from it.
I do. I haven't been on Facebook since 2015.
I made my very first post. You guys didn't say
anything about it. I made my very first post
ever on Instagram this past weekend on Sunday.
What? I didn't see it. Ever. Ever. My first TwitHandler
post. twit handler that's my that's my handle
twit handler on the dudes like us no i put it
on my own and i'm not even friends with you and
i tagged yeah you are and i tagged well somebody
at work showed me how to tag you oh my god i'm
such an old person so i don't even have it because
i've got the the chinese uh fortune cookie well
i put that on dudes like us that was kind of
clever oh your your account's private but it
is yeah it's private yeah This account's private.
I mean, I requested a friend, but... Twit handler?
Yeah. Not tweet. Twit. See you, Paul Minky. Right
there, see? That's me. I have 11 followers. Yeah.
Well, dudes like us is one of the followers.
And one post. Woodcrafting. I have one, yeah.
Yeah, dudes like us woodcrafting. What a... Oh,
is that the wrong one? Did I... Yeah, it's the
wrong one. Did I have the wrong friend? Well,
can you go on there and look at my post? No,
because you haven't approved my friend. Oh, shit.
I don't know how to do that. Well, you know what,
to what you're saying is that it is. It was confusing
to me. It is. It's because it constantly changes,
and it's like, you know, credentials to sign
in. Oh, I forgot my password. You just kind of
give up on it. He's trying to outdo us. Who is?
I don't know who was hanging that glass out,
though. Oh, that was Chris Van Rees. Chris Van
Rees you met. He was from the company I work
with. Yeah. Well, he should have, like. Godzilla
or something in the background fighting. Yeah,
send it back to him. He's on a boat ride. Because
you want some competition for your AI posts?
No, those are real. Chris has been sourcing some
of our bourbon picks that are going to be coming
up in the next couple weeks. This is so pathetic.
So if I add, I'm on my little twit handler right
now, I want to add dudes like us as a friend.
See, I don't even know how to do this. Well,
while you're doing that, another thing you had
brought up is that there was a, was there a climate
hoax or you had mentioned? No, it's a big deal.
A climate study. I didn't understand what you
were saying. Yeah, there was a climate review,
a climate study that came out in Journal Magazine,
which is like a big one. I think it was called
Journal. Anyway, it was a 2024 climate study.
that a whole bunch of people were like see here
we go again this is proof that this and this
is happening and that and that is happening and
all these major major organizations were you
know citing it right right well and then they
had to pull it down because it was flawed and
and the reason why they said it was flawed it
was like a multi -decade review right and they
the reason why they pulled it down because of
a four -year period in was that those numbers
were wrong. And I'm like, really? There's probably
more to it than that. That's my point. It was
like a four -year period in the 90s where they
overstated something because that country gave
them bad data. And I'm like, what? But the analysis
of the study excluding that, I mean, what did
it say? I mean, was it supporting? Yeah, it talked
about, you know, climate. the temperature you
know warming it talked about some other things
and it was all bullshit they had to pull it down
because of Uzbekistan yeah for a four year period
in the 90s for Uzbekistan yeah whatever it was
are you looking at it now do you have it pulled
up they retracted the paper yeah 95 to 99 yeah
see okay but back my point is is that the stuff
that they were saying excluding that was everything
correct but they're they pulled it back they
pulled it out because of a small error on the
whole study so Yeah, well, the difference, you
would have to go to the end of this to help me
out with this because I kind of glossed over
the whole thing, but it was a significant statistical
difference in the conclusion of the study because
of what they attributed to this four -year period
of bad data from Uzbekistan. And it changed the
numbers of the global, decades -long global warming.
So I don't think this, okay, we're not going
to use Uzbekistan. That's who it looks like.
I think they used it as an excuse to pull it
because there was flawed shit all over the place.
Or Uzbekistan's numbers were so wrong that it
looked like the whole earth was warming. When
they pulled that out, they're like, well, it's
really not. Yeah, but it can't. I'm sorry. I
know. There's not fluctuation in that country.
It's a desert and it never changes. I know. I
mean, there's not even urbanization there. Which
means you can't even, well, I'm speaking out
of my ass right now, but I mean, you know what
I'm saying? It's crazy. Does it say how much
it changed it? That's just a full gay. Well,
I'm not the kind to kiss and tell, but I've been
seen with Farrah. It's so crazy. You're looking
it up right now? Okay. Nothing? No, I think most
climate studies are flawed. I know. So this one
being flawed doesn't surprise me, and them pulling
it down is like, yeah, okay. And do you notice
how some people are coming out and saying, hey,
listen, can we stop with the, you know, eight
years from now, the earth is going to be gone
because, you know, the alarmist thing is not
helping our cause. Bill Gates has come out and
said that we need to stop with this. Others have
done that too. Yeah. Right. Because it's hurting
the cause. Right. Because they keep going past
each of these doomsday dates. Right. With nothing
happening. Al Gore was one of the first. I don't
know. AOC. Douchebag. Said we're all going to
be dead in 12 years. That was, what, eight years
ago? Right. Ten years ago or whatever. Oh, so
we have two years left. Yeah. They've always
been wrong. Here's the thing, is that you can't
predict what's going to happen on the planet
that is billions of years old in our feeble...
of 100 years, 200 years. You can't. I mean, yeah,
they could probably do a couple thousand years,
and they could do studies of core samples of
what was going on, but everything that the true
scientists have pulled up out of the earth that
details what the climate was doesn't support
the narrative that Al Gore and all these climate
extremists are suggesting at all. None of it.
It's just like, look, the CO2 averages on our
planet are actually a little bit high. I know.
I'm sorry, they're a little bit low. And if they
decrease much more, we're going to have some
problems. CO2 is good for the planet. When CO2
is higher, it promotes plants. Massive plant
growth. The Amazon explodes. jungles all over
the world explode more trees the bottom line
is they don't know what they're talking about
and frankly anybody that really weighs in on
trying to predict what's going to happen it's
just stupid the only thing they should really
focus on is trying to clean up the pollution
that china and India. India and all these companies
that are just mass producing stuff, which we
need that too. But there needs to be a cleaner
system just to be smart about our planet. Respect
the planet. That's a great point, right? Just
because we're naysayers about these climate studies
doesn't mean we don't care. And I'm extending
this to conservatives and Republicans and this
and that, the people that downplay the impact
of green energy. We're not saying don't take
care of the planet. We care. We care about the
planet. But let's not put together policies that
are detrimental to industry, detrimental to people's
lives and the quality of life and the cost of
living and all of these other things that matter
to that can impact humans. Right. But let's be
smart about it. Like, let's tackle this damn
floating patch plastic. patch in the pacific
ocean you guys have heard about this right yeah
well they've actually that's actually turned
into a nice bio zone because there's so many
living things in it now no yes see it's it's
created its own good things can happen it's a
habitat it is it's its own habitat and they're
all gonna die of microplastic poisoning There
we go. So buy as many plastic bottles as you
can. Throw them into the Pacific Ocean. That's
what we need, Jeff. Thank you for that. I mean,
look, we've got to figure it out because the
earth is being saturated with these microplastics.
It's too late. I mean, we've already fucked it
up. I'm not sure exactly to the extent of what
that's going to do to our health. Is that going
to contribute to us getting cancer? Is the microplastics
contributing to cancer right now? I don't know.
But you know what? Mother Nature. But it's in
our body. Mother Nature has a way of resolving
things. Yeah. Do you remember when we had that?
It's called volcanoes. Well, that. But do you
remember that BP spill? Oh, yeah. And that dramatic,
it's going to take months to cap this thing under
the ocean. And they have this, I mean, all this
stuff. All the bacteria. Spewing up. Everything.
And they said it was going to end this and end
that. And the Gulf Coast was going to be uninhabitable.
And you know what ended up happening? Mother
Nature. produced this plume of microbes that
they didn't know even existed that ate the oil.
Ate the oil. Because remember, oil does seep
out of the ocean floor naturally. Right? Yep.
And they were like, oh, shit, okay. Nothing to
see here. Yeah, it went away real quick. Somehow
that massive plume of oil. Now, I'm not saying
it didn't cause some damage. It did. Yeah, there's
a lot of Galveston and their beach and that whole
region. Yeah, they were. It was nasty. And a
lot of the birds, the feathers, they were all
kind of just stuck together. It was nasty. It
was a horrible cleanup. And I'm sure it affected
ecosystems here and there and coral reefs and
stuff like that. And the people that lived out
there. Yeah. I don't want to downplay that. Oh,
and they send the shrimp. The shrimp were not
so great. But my point is, it was the end of
life. Oh, yeah. Well, it wasn't. Nope. You know?
This was a mess for a few years. It was a massive,
massive lawsuit, though. Wow. BP suffered. Yeah,
BP was one of my customers at the time, and they
were buying all kinds of stuff from me. And then
they stopped? No, they were buying more stuff
to deal with that issue. To deal with that, yes.
Really? Yep. You're like, yes, we need more of
those. So we're looking at an image right now.
Ten years ago, the Sky Truth revealed the truth
about the BP oil spill. What is that referring
to? It shows kind of a map and over. lay of kind
of an aerial shot of what the... Is there a flume
of oil that was kind of spreading everywhere
and how the natural tides and the... What do
they call it? Jet stream within the water? What
was it called? The Gulf Stream? It's plumes and
Gulf Streams. It links to a video. It's not something
I can share. It's just saying that's kind of
the extent of the damage. Yeah, but it's amazing
about those. I never knew. I heard about those
bacterias that were eating the oil. I didn't
realize it consumed it. It basically solved the
problem. I mean, it definitely took away the
worst case scenario in a big way. You got to
think about it. I was thinking about, you know,
somebody's going to invent something that's going
to do exactly what that microbe did. And we're
not going to want it because all of a sudden,
whatever we invent. it's going to get into our
system and start neutralizing the oil that we
have in the ground. Can you imagine that? Oh.
I mean, we're fossil fuel based. Like they're
injecting it into the ground to stop our… Let's
say we're just going to experiment. We're going
to figure out how can we control this from happening,
and all of a sudden you sprinkle a little magic
pixie dust on this thing, and it turns these
bacteria get down into the oil wells, and the
oil wells are all connected about 10 miles underneath
the earth. Like it's the Langoliers or something
that's eaten the past? I don't know. So Greta's
going to become a... She's a microbe. A microbe.
How dare you? They're drilling all these wells
to stop the oil. We have another Greta reference.
Oh, Lord have mercy. We have a lot of those?
We have a lot of those. Well, we like her. She's
cool. She's passionate. She cares about the planet.
She paints rivers green. We like her. You know,
Chuck, you mentioned something about someone
passing away. Reds, Ted, Dez. No, no, Zed, dude.
Zed. What did he die of? Why are you the only
one who knows who this guy is? From Pulp Fiction,
right? Pulp Fiction, yes. It's a chopper, baby.
Whose chopper is this? Zed's. Who's Zed? Zed's
dead, baby. Yeah, so Peter Green. Yeah. Found
dead. Oh, he's interesting. I wonder what he
died of. Oh, he died in New York City. He was
in The Mask, and he was Zed from Pulp Fiction.
He was a really good bad guy in The Mask. The
main villain. Yeah. He was really good. That's
a loss. Probably just a heart attack. Everybody's
a loss, but that's sad. I wonder what happened
to him. You know, I got to tell you, I was playing
video games the other night, and imagine that.
I'm playing Battlefield 6. Shout out to the Battlefield
6 crews. Stan, Brian, Matt was up. Yeah, they
do. So while we're playing, we're always talking
shit. And he says, oh, yeah, Rob Reiner died.
He was killed. Yeah, he was murdered. And then
he started saying, oh, man, that comedian. And
then he made the whiskey from the Democrats'
tears. thinking it was rob schneider oh and then
and he started talking about so much i was thinking
oh my god i i literally thought it was rob schneider
even though i know rob schneider but i was just
thinking oh that's him and then i googled it
after i said i gotta go to bed and i googled
it real quick i was like dude you're not talking
about this is rob ryan this is meathead from
all in the family this is a guy that is just
a political hack and i i don't want to speak
ill of of rob because he's a human and he's a
father and a husband and his son who was sick
uh on drugs and was having some sort of relapse
or something i don't know we don't know yet you
know but you know evidently the word is that
he murdered with a knife with a knife both his
parents yeah and uh awful left the site and you
know his sister shows up romey i think is her
name finds them Finds them. I didn't hear that.
So the sister is the one that found them? Found
them. The parents hacked up. Oh, my God. It was
quite violent. Oh, hacked them up. Oh, wow. Oh,
I thought it was throat slipped. That started
it, but then there was multiple stabbings. Multiple
stabbings. And apparently he went to a hotel
room, stayed the night. Then when they came in
to clean it, the bathroom, bathtub was all covered
in blood. And the bed, the sheets were all covered
in blood. This guy is so sick. Mental illness,
man. Unchecked mental illness. Well, I'll tell
you what. I didn't realize Rob Reiner was responsible
for a lot of really good movies. He was. He really
was. A few good men. A few good men. Stand By
Me. Spinal Tap. When Harry Met Sally. When Harry
Met Sally. Princess Bride. Princess Bride. Princess
Bride. Oh, that's a cult movie, man. Yeah. I
mean, he made some really good ones. I mean,
in his later years, he did turn into a political
hack, like Sean said. He thought he was on the
right side. Yeah, his career was spot on. I think
he'd rank up there with some of the best directors.
Absolutely. Whether we'd want to admit that or
not. No, I mean, he was a great director. Yeah,
if you'd asked me 10 years ago, I would have
said sure. Yeah. I don't have a problem with
that. He did a great job. Unfortunately, it's
kind of like when someone just acts like a jerk
all the time. It's like, dude, man, we get it.
He had a lot of good movies. Now at this point,
I'm just like, yeah, I'm not going to watch you
anymore. I'm there. I will not watch Robert De
Niro. It stinks because he is a good actor. Yeah,
you know, Meet the Fockers or something like
that. Those are good movies, I think. They're
funny as hell. I'm not going to watch them anymore.
Sometimes I feel petty by saying, no, we're not
watching that. That has Robert De Niro in it.
I feel petty, but part of me, I don't want to
have the emotion that I have when I look at him.
You know what I mean? I want to watch the movie
without thinking about anything else, and then
I see Robert De Niro, and I'm like, you're a
piece of shit. That's why if you're an actor
or actress, just keep your mouth shut. Yes. And
you can believe what you want. They want to make
a difference. Yeah, because you're not the authority
on anything. I know. And it's not going to make
you more popular to do that, right? I know. It's
going to make you less popular. That's going
to take half the United States. Yeah, you're
going to piss off half the United States. What
do we always say? You're never going to convince
somebody by just being a douchebag. dogging on
people. He wasn't just a douchebag. He actually
put together NGOs to go after Trump and put together
former heads of departments of the government
to come up with ways that they could go after
Trump. He wasn't just talking. He was actually
doing and putting his money and his effort and
organizing groups to go after. Our president.
Completely deranged. Yeah. Completely. And at
that point, you're like, dude, lay off, would
you? You know, you're not getting anywhere and
you're not doing anything. Wasn't he the guy
that put the bombs on January 6th? I think he
was. That might have been a different guy. Oh,
it wasn't him. What is the latest of that guy?
That guy went away, didn't it? It did. It just
kind of disappeared. I mean, they arrested the
guy. Because it's kind of a non -story because
it's a black dude who was on the spectrum hate
trump apparently and uh he his family was shocked
that he did it and he they were in support of
him because he was in the spectrum and i that
was it and then the whole story dropped yeah
i mean i'm like i mean nothing detonated but
they said that they were capable of detonating
in other words it wasn't like a fake you know
yeah but how was they how were they uh gonna
detonate i i don't know but they said it was
it was real Like, the bomb was real. The bomb
was real. He had real other bomb -making equipment,
apparently, in the house where he was. So I don't
know if he was just kind of going through the
motions. It's just a major coincidence that it
happened on the same day of January 6th. Because
he did it the day before. He did it the night
before, yeah. Which is why the pardons for January
6th don't apply to him, is what they're saying.
Oh, so January 5th. Yeah, because he planted
them on the 5th. to Trump's pardon of the January
6th folks. And he... He just has to make another
one. Well, and he also placed bombs. It wasn't
one side or the other. It was both. It was both
sides, yeah. Yeah, DNC and RNC. So was he just
like, I hate politics. You guys drive me crazy.
I want all of you to die or something? They're
being tight -lipped about their interviews and
that sort of stuff because they got a case to
make. So there's more coming out. And unfortunately,
the FBI has to work this case and keep tight
-lipped about it. other than that we found the
guy and here's some of his background. But they
can't really talk about it too much because they're
going to taint a jury and they're not going to
be able to prosecute and blah, blah, blah. I
get it. And it's going to take a while. It's
like a gag order type of thing. It's going to
take a while for the real story to come out,
so you've got to give it some space and room
to breathe. But at least they found somebody
as opposed to ignoring it and not prosecuting
the case. In the previous administration, this
FBI put it together and says, here's cell phone
data. Here's some video data. We've got a suspect.
We're going to tail him for a little while, see
what he does. We've got his receipts. We've got
his credit card. They put together a compelling
case to go arrest and prosecute this person who
was 25. He was 25 or 26 at the time. They got
to go through all this. It's meticulous work.
It's got to be frustrating. Can you imagine being
an FBI agent or a detective in general, and you
know, it's like it's so obvious this guy did
what he did, right? It's like the guy that shot
the CEO of the pharmaceutical company. Oh, yeah.
The linguine guy. Luigi. It's so freaking obvious.
Well, now they're trying to get all. Yeah, the
linguine guy. They're trying to get everything
they found out when their question tossed out.
Right. It's just such bullshit, though. There's
so many little things. Oh, you didn't have a
warrant at the time you searched his backpack.
So all of that stuff is inadmissible. Yeah, you've
got to be super careful that you did everything
right. And then you've got to wait for years
to prove it. The Brown University shooting, they're
exactly going through the same thing right now,
where they... That guy's still at large. No,
they don't even have that guy. Well, my point
is that they have... It was exactly what you
said. The police are all trying to find these
guys, and it's just like they know... They followed
a lead. And because the press is like all over
them. And they're like, well, why didn't you
check this? Why? Why? Like four days later, you're
just not doing this. And they're kind of like,
well, that's because we had a lead that we thought
was the main thing. And that lead turned up to
be not correct. So now we're backtracking. And
that's why. Because it's ever changing. We don't
know the whole story. Get off my ass. Get out
of my ass. Right. Led us to our jobs. Yeah. And
I kind of feel it because it's kind of, that's
exactly the way I feel that they were, they were
just beating them up over it. Yeah. They wanted
a quick, you know, they are so, they want somebody
like immediately arrested. Right. So the crazy
story about the Brown shooting is that it happened
in a classroom. Right. In an engineering building.
Nobody was shot like. Out on the grounds. He
had someone in mind that he wanted to shoot.
100 % targeted. Yeah. And it was a young sophomore
girl who was the VP of the Republican something.
The Young Republicans Club. Young Republicans
Club. Yeah. And then there was another Asian
dude. Actually, he's from Pakistan or whatever.
I guess it's considered Asian. And he was like
just an aspiring neurosurgeon, right? I don't
know if he was a Republican, part of this Republican
thing. He might have been collateral damage,
right? She might have been the target. And what
does that look like? So she's maybe at a function,
like with a table out in front of the college.
I don't know. Kind of like Turning Point USA.
And she's kind of trying to get people to join
the Republican Party. And he's super angry at
her. And he remembers her. Old dude and maybe
a student, maybe not a student. There might be
30 Republicans at Brown University in Providence,
Rhode Island. Right. Total of all the students.
How does she become a target? That somebody walks
into a classroom and shoots her. It brings up
other things regarding the school, all schools,
that they don't have cameras on those schools
for privacy in a lot of areas. Oh, really? I
didn't understand that. In fact, that statement
I just said. It doesn't even make sense to me.
That's what I understood them to say. And the
lady that's the president of the school, whatever,
she was like, as a result, we're going to start
adding some more cameras everywhere. And we think
everyone should. Not Katie Boyd. What are you
looking at? Oh, I thought you were saying the
lady that got shot, you mean? It was right there.
That's her, right there. Oh. What's her name?
Her name is Ella Cook. Ella Cook. Yeah, they
had her roommate, her college roommate on the
Fox News this morning. How is she a target? I
mean, come on. Is she really? I mean, she may
not be, guys. I mean, this could have been a
weird random thing before a dude to go into a
classroom in an engineering building and shoot
just two people. Did you see the video of what
the new area or the new person of interest is?
No. Basically, he's got a very specific outfit
that he's wearing that he should be identified.
And interestingly enough - I thought he was wearing
all black with a mask. It was a two -tone jacket,
and it may have been darker clothes, but he did
have a medical mask on and a beanie. It's unfortunate.
And that's crazy. It ties right in because it
happened the same week as that Sydney thing.
You know, where you got 15 people that were taking
their lives taken away from a father -son combo
out there just blasting away. Oh, yeah. Yeah,
but there's an interesting finish to that story.
Yeah. With the guy that took him down. Did you
see that? Yeah. He got shot with a number of
bullets, and he was a Muslim father of two daughters
who's in mid -40s, and he just, apparently the
cops weren't doing anything. They froze. And
he just was, okay, I'm going to go take this
guy down. And he did. You know what? Those were
two radicalized Muslim men that gave their allegiance
to ISIS, apparently. One's from Pakistan. I thought
their father and son, they'd be from the same
place. But one was from Pakistan and one from
somewhere else. Well, the son was born in Australia,
I want to say. Oh, my God. That's so heartbreaking.
Anyway, and then you got another Muslim dude.
A third Muslim dude is the one that took him
down. Right. And then in the hospital bed, he's
like, you know, didn't want any attention about
it. He just like was, it was, he knew that something
needed to be done. Yeah. He disarmed him. He
disarmed him. And he said, you know, I'm so grateful
for Australia gave me a citizenship and, and
I, you know, I, I, I belong here. And I, I mean,
it was, you know what I mean? It was like, it
was like the exact, it was like the, the antidote
to, to, to the hatred that the other guys were.
Right. We're spewing here. And it's kind of doom
and gloom. All right, well, look, let's turn
this frown upside down. Let's talk about 1693
Elevation, Fredericksburg, Texas. Damn, I need
glasses. Son of a crackhead. Fredericksburg,
Texas? What are you talking about? That's where
it's made. Yep. 1693, it's the elevation. That's
where they came up with the name of 1693. Yeah,
1693 is the elevation of Fredericksburg. I knew
Garrison Brothers was there. I didn't know that
these guys were there. Did they distill it there?
Yes. Yeah, they do now. Where the hell have I
been? So it's a fantastic bottle. It's got a
great spherical cork on the top. It is a pretty
bottle. The bottle is a boss. It says 1693. It's
got some stars on there. They do their own distillate
now. This is the cast strength version. We hit
a home run with this one. They're veteran owned.
It's veteran owned. I'm all on board with that.
It's 123 proof. Very good. Julie and I went down
there. We stopped in there. They also make a
tequila. I didn't try the tequila. They do. Hold
on. God. You're like, they make a tequila. Oh,
fantastic. I thought it couldn't be called tequila
if they make it in Texas. It's called Elevation.
I don't know where they make that. I'm sure they
have it up there. There's rules about making
tequila. Yes, it has to be made within a certain
part of Mexico to be called tequila. Oh. Yes.
So they call it Texquila. No, they call it the
Gave Spirit. Oh. Well, that's not what you said.
That is not what you said. Play it back. Play
it back, Chuck. What did he say? No, I'm not
disagreeing that I did say tequila. You sound
like the dude on A Few Good Men. Did you catch
that? I'm not saying that. You can't handle the
tequila. Did you order the cornbread? Oh, my
God. So anyway, Jeff went out there. He had a
great time. In fact, you texted us saying, we
need this bottle. And I knew we had it. You're
like, we have it. Yeah, we have it already. And
we have the good one. Yeah, I went up there and
I said, can I have an old -fashioned with the
cast strength? And she's like, no, it's all pre
-made. I was like, really? I was like, all right,
give me one of those and give me a pour of the
cask on the side. So that's when I got that.
They have a really nice outside with the stage
and fire pits and everything. It was nice. All
I saw from your trip was your arm, your hand,
a glass that had bourbon in it. And some fantastic
background. Of course. Most of the time there
was like fighting demons and flying ants or whatever
it was. I don't know what you were doing. Well,
that's what it's like down there. This is really,
really good, guys. Yeah, I'm enjoying it. I wasn't
expecting it. Yeah, we had mixed results in the
initial nose and initial, I mean, very initial
taste. I think it is such a departure from what
we had the first half. For sure. Agreed. Flavor
-wise. It's wonderful. It's another 22 proof,
so that adds a lot to it. That's got a nice color
to it, too. I don't know how old it is. It's
four years. Well, four years at Texas will get
you that. Did you re -pour? No, I've been sipping.
Oh, shit. What's wrong with me? Jeez, Paul. I
know. I go on this no -drinking thing, and suddenly
I'm like... You're like, I gotta catch up. Apparently.
Apparently I got to find that 17 -year -old whatever
you guys. We finished it. So what do you guys.
Not even funny. What kind of aroma are you guys
picking up? Aroma? Aroma. The nose, the taste,
the finish. Let's knock this out. I think we
got a couple minutes left. I pick up some fruits.
I got cinnamon. I pick up some dark fruits is
what I pick up. I tell you what, I'm not going
to lie. I get like a burnt wheat. I don't know
how else to describe it. Is this weeded at all?
The tasting profile says that the aroma is sarsaparilla,
butterscotch, fresh cracked pecans. That could
be what you just stated. The burnt wheat? Hey,
maybe. Cracked pecans? Yeah, maybe. I could pick
that up. Kind of a nutty scent on there. Yeah,
maybe that's a better way to say it. Nutty instead
of burnt wheat. Kind of nutsacky. No, that's
not what I said. The taste, warm apple pie, bittersweet,
cocoa. Did you say nutsacky? He said it's nutsacky.
That's exactly what he said. For our listener,
I want to hear it again. Nutsacky. That's the
word of the week. Right before Christmas. Right.
That's awesome. Merry Christmas. Merry Christmas,
everyone. Have a nutcracky Christmas. Nutsacky.
I'm still chomping. It lasts a long time. That
little white pepper that kind of just hangs on
the whole time. I enjoy that. As long as it's
not too astringent, kind of like a wasabi astringent.
This is wonderful. This is a sweet pour. 123
proof, 123 .6 proof. This is going to score.
Close to the Pinhook Series collaboration. Especially
in this category. In this category. I'm going
to give it a 7 .4. Ooh. 3. I see some difference.
So you don't like 7. No, I'm about a 7 .5 on
this. This is good. Yeah, it's good. 7 .8. There
we go. I enjoy it. Hey, we're all in a solid
range here. Well done. You should reach out to
them to see if they're ever up this way. I should.
That guy's up there a lot, and we spoke to him.
He was one of the owners, wasn't he? He was affiliated
with, okay, yeah, that guy too, yes. I have a
bunch of business cards. I need to get back on
the horse with that. I just kind of forgot. It
used to be part of a routine that I did, and
I just kind of dropped the ball on it. I'll pick
that back up. Yeah, I scored high on this. Yeah,
me too. Me too. Hey, before we, I know we're
close. We're close to the end. I want to share
one more story. Are we at the end? Yes, we are.
Music's coming? I hear the music. Okay, I want
to hear one story. So I traveled out to Albuquerque,
right? I do this. My headquarters is out there.
Anyway, we stay at the Embassy Suites. They have
a wonderful manager special, great breakfast.
Anyway, I'm on the elevator and there's a young
man in fatigues. And I look at his uniform, I
look at his patch, and it says Space Force. And
I'm like, dude, you are the first person I've
ever seen with a uniform of Space Force. And
I go, so, I mean, shit, what's it like? Like,
is it like... It's out of this world, man. Far
out. That's exactly what he said. And that's
what he said. No, neither one of those. I was
like, and he was kind of like tight -lipped.
He wasn't going to share a lot of information.
I was like, dude, the fight, the next fight is
in space, man. China's doing this, trying to
take out our satellites. We're going to be screwed
if you guys don't. He's like, uh -huh, uh -huh.
Anyway, it was really cool. It was cool to see
a young man in a Space Force uniform. I imagine.
What was the outfit like? Typical. Was it like
black with stars on it? No, that's what I said.
It used to be all black with little sparkles,
right? No, it was... Like a Buck Rogers outfit?
No, it was... It was a big white Skywalker helmet?
Oh my God. You guys were all so excited. It was
like a sponge. It was like a Spaceballs. You
guys were as excited as I was when I saw him.
It was a standard fatigue. Military fatigues
green. Military fatigues green with just a Space
Force patch. Was it like a big dark helmet? No,
from Spaceballs. None of that. Luke. Check us
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dudeslikeus -podcast. It's December 16th. We're
taking a week off. We are. Merry Christmas. Merry
Christmas. Merry Christmas, our listeners. God
bless. Should we do it one more time? No. thing
to say. This is Jeff's favorite Christmas song
if you had any doubts. It's not a Christmas song.
Hey, we want to send a shout out to Ann Anderson
for showing up on the first half of the podcast.
That was excellent. And if you're Ann's family
excited about the first one and you're listening
to this one, we're sorry if we offended you.
We apologize. Yes. And it's all Paul. This is
a real podcast. It kind of really was me. And
I apologize. And my name is Paul. Merry Christmas,
guys. Dudes Like Us. I'm Sean. I'm Paul. And
I'm Jeff. And thank you, Mr. Producer Chuck.