Second half. Yeah, we ran Jordan off. He was
like, you guys suck. Nah, I came back. Oh! I
have a short memory. It's okay. Oh, good. Jordan,
you're still with us. I'm still. I'm still here.
Yes. Second half of the Dudes Like Us podcast.
It's November 11. We're about to tear this shit
up. 11 -11. 11 -11. Mid -November already. I
remember when we were like, oh, we'll take care
of that in the fourth quarter. Thanksgiving's
two weeks. Shit. Thanksgiving's two weeks. Two
weeks. I went and got me a turkey tit the other
day from H -E -B. What was that? Turkey breast.
Oh, you did say tit. Turkey tit. Turkey tit.
I don't think we call it that, Jeff. It's just
weird. I kind of like that. Do you guys deep
fry turkeys? No. I thought you said fry. Smoke.
I want to smoke mine. Smoke a turkey? Yeah. Hey,
I've deep fried a turkey. It has actually tasted
pretty good. No, they are tasty. They are. They're
really tasty. They're kind of dangerous if you
do it the wrong way or you do it in your garage.
Yeah, you can start a fire. You can't do it in
the middle of your kitchen. And then pour water
on a grease fire. That's always fun. Make sure
it thaws. Make sure it thaws. Yeah, I've seen
these countertop turkey fryers. I'm like, that
is a horrible idea. Yeah, you just made your
insurance policy. People do it every year. Accidents,
every single year, people frying turkeys. Frying
anything, really. All right, let's get this thing
rolling. It's the second half of the Dudes Like
Us podcast. It's November 11th. Check us out
on Dudes Like Us Facebook and Instagram. I'm
Sean. I'm Paul. I'm Jeff. I'm Jordan. And thank
you, Mr. Producer Chuck on the helm. You know,
I wanted to bring up Happy Veterans Day again.
Absolutely. You know what? If you don't mind,
I want to dive in a little bit about that. Where
did that come from? I mean, obviously it came
from Veterans Appreciation. World War I, it's
Armistice Day, and they just kind of renamed
it to Veterans Day. It's 11 -11, right? Yeah.
Today? Yeah. 11 -11, 1918 or 17 or something
like that, right? Yep. Yeah, we went to Chili's
today for lunch, and the place was packed. Baby
back ribs. It was packed. Yes. I want my baby
back, baby back Chili's. Baby back ribs. Chili's
baby back ribs. I got my baby back ribs. With
the veterans, because I guess they get a free
lunch. 1918. Yeah, 11th day of the 11th month
of 1918. You chose today of all days? Oh, because
was Alan still in town? No, no, no. This was
just we. Picked a place to go, you know, because
we're always trying to figure out where we're
going to go. The co -workers, we all go together.
I have no problem with Chili's. It's good. Chili's
is consistent. That's what it is. That's what
I like. It's consistent. You're going to get
it. I mean, it's not healthy in any way, but
it's good food. Yeah. Yeah. It fills you up.
And it had tons of veterans in there. So Alan
is in town? He is in town. How's he doing? Not
right now. He's up in Oklahoma visiting his brother
and family. Is he all bronzed? Yeah, he's got
some sun. So that's my father -in -law, Jordan.
He lived in Houston and decided to move down
to Mexico. Good for him. That's fun. He is retired
in Mexico. Like cartel stuff? No, I hope not.
I hope not. Yeah. He's kind of in a sleepy little
town at the base of a mountain about an hour
and a half outside of Mexico City, and he is
loving life out there. You're going to see one
of those Department of War gray things, and his
village is going to get blown up. Right? He's
like, boom. He's like, hi, Paul. Boom. Can you
imagine? They haven't done any land strikes.
It's all boat strikes. I know. They're about
to. Dude, look. They're about to. Oh, that's
more Venezuela. It's more Venezuela. Well, don't
met in Gulf of America. You know, that's a whole
thing. So there's some gray area with this bombing
of boats, right? And I know they always say intelligence.
They know that it was a cartel boat and they
know that there were drugs on it. What if it
wasn't? And a lot of people, a lot of people
are starting to question like the legality of
this. I mean, they're like, these people aren't
given due process. They're. Do you know for 100
% certain that everything they say they're supposed
to be? Did we give Soleimani due process? Yeah,
that's all bullshit. Did we give Saddam Hussein
due process? We knew who they were. Do they know
who this guy is? They have lots of analysts.
Just because CNN, MSC, Fox can't vet all the
bullshit. Finally, Jeff is on our side. I don't
disagree, but there's a little bit of hmm to
this. You know what? There are for some people,
but for the other half, I disagree. I think that
they know what's going on. They know who are
on those boats. They know where the boat is at.
They know where the boat took off. And they know
who's on it because they got eyes on it. And
they're like, they got five people on it. They
know. So the concern is what? that there's children
on there, women, or what? No, you know, I just,
you know, I don't have any. You got Juanito,
the boat instructor, that went on there to step
in for his kid, and then all of a sudden, boom.
I don't have any issue with it at all, but I
see why the people who hate this administration
have something to gripe about. They will hate
anything this president does. But you know what
I'm scared of? Anything. You know what I'm scared
of? I'm scared. If they were smart, they would
put human shields on the boat. Right. Yeah. That's
the next step. That's the next step. And you
wonder if that's already happening. We don't
know. And that's awful. That's scary. Well, how
are they going to prove it? We were running drugs,
but we had three kids on there. There's not a
whole lot left on those boats either. Those videos,
it's crazy. How are they going to prove that?
Yeah, and it looks like when they're watching
the videos, the guys are kind of excited when
they're showing the video. The kids are like,
check out this freaking 50 cal. We'll see what
it can do. Oh, yeah, yeah. I don't know. There's
a little bit of a doubles. A little weirdness
of it? Yes. There is some. I mean, look, I understand
your perspective, and I'm not necessarily disagreeing
with it, but look, if the United States bombs
a boat, in the Gulf of America, there's probably
a really good verified reason that they're going
to do it. I would hope so. And that's just it.
You have to hope so. And you have to trust the
government. And I know... Yeesh. That's coming
from your voice. That is a scary thing you just
said. You have to trust the actions of what the
current administration, what they got going on.
Look, there's little microcosms of trust, too.
I'm not saying from a widespread trust, because
I don't. at all but when it comes to things like
that i i gotta trust them you know you gotta
trust them when they're they you know and i i
understand some of the questions about ice and
how they're storming in these cars show up and
they got masks on and you're like is this legit
or is this these who are these people am i allowed
to fight back what's going on are these Like
crooked people? Am I going to get dragged? Or
is this legitimate? To me, they're wearing official
outfits. How can they not fucking know? Well,
now they have people dressing up as ICE. Have
you heard that? I've seen that. I've heard of
that. That's not good either. Yeah, it's not
either. That's not good. Yeah. But I will tell
you this. So I know, I mean, all the Trump haters,
right? Anything he does or his administration
does, they're going to be upset with. But I tell
you, Obama. He used a lot of drone strikes. He
started the whole drone stuff. He was blowing
up shit in Africa. He was blowing up shit in
the Middle East. And I was like, go. I was not
an Obama fan at all. But I was like, that is
a good policy to take out bad guys from the sky.
So, I mean, no boots on the ground. Just go in
there and take care of business. I will share
a little story about drones and Obama. So I have
telecommunications. I was doing something for
Lockheed Martin, installing antennas in one of
their facilities. And I got a call from somebody
there after we finished. They said, our customer
does not like that antenna. You need to come
remove it. And we were doing the work at night.
So there wasn't a lot of people there in the
day. And I went in, they made me sign an NDA
saying I couldn't talk about what I was going
to see or whatever it was. This was in Garland,
Texas. Okay. This is, I go in there and the antenna
we had in this room, they would made it in a
makeshift. It was a drone piloting room. So they
were doing stuff over like Afghanistan and different
spots. And they had like, I mean, I remember
seeing a three -star general. I remember seeing
like guys, they were actively doing things. And
I had to remove this antenna, and it was the
middle of the day, and this NDA, they're like,
don't talk about it. And it was a thing. I mean,
I don't know if I should talk about it now. This
was like 20 years ago, but that stuff was happening
all over the place in DFW. I mean, there was
like these makeshift, you wouldn't even know.
It looked like a video game area, but it wasn't.
So was it messing up their... Like, why do you
have to remove it? They were worried that what
I was putting in there could be a listening device.
That was their whole, they were caught up. Even
though it was for cellular, they were just nervous.
And their customer was the U .S. government,
right? Right. They're not taking any chances.
No, no. So it was just an interesting, you know,
going from that to that. But I saw that firsthand.
Creepy. Right here in DFW, you know, and it was,
yeah, something else. And the fact that it is
like a joystick and it's a video game. It totally
is. I mean, yeah. And that's creepy because these
are people that are, dying, you know, like at
the other end of this. I'm not saying, I mean,
they're bad guys, right, in my opinion, so it's
okay, but still, it's kind of, hmm, it's a scary
form of warfare. Think of the lives you're saving
because you're taking out the bad guys. No, no,
no, that's not the issue I have. The issue I
have is just that there's this weird video game
type of warfare that's happening now. I mean,
dude, even worse on the Ukrainian -Russian front.
Oh, good Lord. I mean, they're doing drone everything.
Yeah, but can you tell me the body count of the
people that died in that conflict last week,
last month, last six months? Why are they not
reporting that? And it's a lot. It's a ton. But
is it? Oh, you mean Russian Ukraine? Yeah. How
many people, how many Russians, how many Ukrainians?
I've heard hundreds of thousands of people have
died in that war. But it's hard to tell. You
get weird numbers, but I mean, that's... They're
not even reporting it, though. Yeah, it's kind
of hard to fathom, too. It's kind of like, I
was going to say the Holocaust. Well, it's kind
of out of sight, out of mind, right? Because
it's over there. You'd be like, he's a denier.
You don't see a lot of footage. Like, we had
embedded media in Vietnam and Afghanistan and
shit. They're not out there. They're not in Ukraine
right now. Nothing. So there's nothing. I mean,
you'll see the drone. every now and then, but
you're not out there on the fields with the bullshit
that's going on. So you don't see it. I know
that Ukraine has official channels where official,
but they list all the tanks and the people and
the this and the that that they've destroyed.
And who knows if those numbers are verifiable,
but they're big -ass numbers. There are hundreds
of thousands of Russian troops. We have a presence
there right now. I think we signed a deal to
gather precious metals. and some of their stuff.
We've got people that are getting set up to take
on that task. And they're probably there right
now. That's probably why you can't hear it, because
they're using it as a stepping stone to get the
other guys in there to do all the weird shit.
I don't know. Yeah. But there's hundreds of thousands.
And where are we getting that data from? It is
showing no signs of stopping, guys. No. This
is awful. So what's Putin going to do? They're
just throwing bodies at it, too. And look at
this. I mean, we've had things where Zelensky,
right? Isn't he the guy? He's a putz. He came
in and came to the White House and we kicked
him out because we're tired of them trying to
drag us into World War III. It just baffles me
that that war, we just keep getting sucked into
that thing. He's such a hothead nobody. You know,
it's just like he showed up at the White House,
disrespected Donald Trump, and that's when...
Was that when he was in a sweatshirt and jeans?
Yeah, J .D. Vance was kind of like, hey, pump
it back there. Get the fuck out of here. That
was one of the video clips I made of us discussing
this. Because after J .D. Vance was like, whoa,
whoa, whoa. Trump was like, oh, shit, here we
go. Yeah, I bet he's got a temper on it. He didn't
want to engage. We talked about that. It was
so funny. But you know what? He got put in his
place, and rightfully so. And you know what?
He left, and he came back. Trump was like, hey,
when he's ready to come back, he'll come back.
Otherwise, he can fuck off. He did. Because all
he wants is money. Hey, give me more money. Dude,
what'd you do with all the money we gave you?
The uncounted. Billions of dollars. Show us where
that money's at. Did you see the clip of the,
I don't know who it was in his entourage. I don't
know if it was an ambassador. I think it was
an ambassador. But she was sitting on the couch
while this exchange was happening, and she had
her face buried in her hand. Oh, yeah. I remember
that. Did you see that shot? Because she was
mortified. Yeah, she was like, fuck, we're not
going to get what we need now. Because Zelensky
blew it. You know what I mean? That kind of thing.
Oh, yeah. He's learned, though. He didn't speak
any English when this started. Now he's speaking
English. And it's a whole thing. I think what's
scary, too, is. You have Putin out there, and
you have Trump that I guess they talk, and they're
supposedly like ceasefires or something coming
up, and then Trump leaves, and then Putin does
the biggest airstrike ever the next day. That
is on purpose, too. I think Trump's just playing
him, man. I mean, I'm sorry. I think Putin's
playing Trump. I think it's absolutely. Yes,
yes. Well, you know, I think one of the issues
with Trump, he's like, I'll have this salted
one day. He says stupid shit like that, right?
He does. Because he thinks he's got super clout
and control over people where Putin's like, most
of the time he is right. I'm richer and more
powerful than you. Yeah, and I don't care how
many people I throw at it. But most of that is
true. I mean, yeah, granted he didn't finish
the shit in a day, but he took care of the hostages.
He has taken care of a lot of things. But you
know what? And had he been president back then,
we wouldn't be in this freaking war in the first
place. Well, potentially. Yeah, because he wouldn't
have let it get to the point where Russia felt
like they had no choice but to do what they did.
I think it would have just delayed it. True.
It would have just delayed it because he was
waiting. You know, he probably would have done
more with Crimea if he was able to. Yes. Right.
So I think Trump came in and delayed things.
And then Biden came in. He's like, all right,
now's the time. Let's go. Let's go get our shit.
In other words, eventually that would have been
a weak president. Correct. That allowed it to
happen. Plus, before we let China in. Hang on.
But Biden and their administration was wanting.
in NATO something fierce. Yes, that was a mistake.
And that was a mistake, right? That forced Putin's
hand. That forced his hand. Correct. Because
he was like, I am not going to allow NATO to
be right there on my doorstep. Just giving you
rationale, right? Yeah. Yeah. I mean, until that
gets off the table, permanently off the table,
there's not going to be anything to talk about.
And now that he's got the land that he's already
taken over, he's not giving it back. Yeah. Well,
he took out his pipelines. He's pissed. He needs
a land bridge down to Crimea. Right. So he's
not giving it up. Anyway, so that's depressing.
It is depressing, but it's a reality, and it's
an unchecked reality because we're not talking
about it, and there's not enough folks that are
talking about it. And frankly, we don't know
enough about it because we're not talking about
it. And they do talk about it. We have no idea
if they're telling the fucking truth because
everything is so slanted. Nobody says a word
about that war. It's a full -on war. It's full
-on. No one says a word about it. So if you go,
like, sometimes there's like a YouTube type.
where you can get, like, unedited versions. There's,
like, live streaming of that war. I mean, you
can see some crazy stuff. You're not going to
see it on YouTube. It's, like, other... Yeah,
yeah, yeah. ...sites you can go to. But, I mean,
it's crazy. But then you also see, like, troops
out there, like, drinking keg beer and smoking
cigars, like, shooting and just running around
having fun, too. I've seen that, too. It's really
strange. Like, the Ukrainian... I don't know
how sometimes... I think there's serious fighting
there and then I think there's just... Is it
a full -on ground assault, or is it a lot of
drone shit? I think it's a combo of all of it.
Yeah, both. They're going in there, and they
want a specific region. It's air, tank, and then
ground. And they're just chipping away at it.
And Putin's throwing hundreds of thousands of
bodies, just laying it out until they get it.
And it's like, dude, if you're living in a three
-story apartment in... You punch a bunch of holes
in it, and there were 10 families that live in
there. They're all displaced now. So they're
going to move out, and that's what they're doing,
just systematically over rivers and securing
up acres and acres up to a river, up to a bridge,
essentially, until they get, and then they just
build up, build up it, and then they cross that
bridge, and boom. Didn't they take out a few
bridges strategically? Oh, yeah. Sure they did.
Yes, absolutely. Sure they did. That was one
of the very first things that happened. Speaking
of, Gaza has gotten pretty quiet too. That's
because they're going in there and they're assessing
the land and trying to figure out how can we
make money off of this. I think they had a few
of those pockets of the Hamas people who didn't
agree with the thing. That got extinguished.
They caused some problems where it threatened
the whole ceasefire thing. I think that's been
squashed. at least here lately. It's been eerily
quiet. Yeah, it's been quiet. So I think you're
right. I think they're in there cleaning up,
assessing, destroying the tunnels, disarming
them. Are they? Yes, that was one of the things.
They want to make it a resort or something like
that, right? But why haven't we heard any progress
on that front, like the things you're talking
about? They don't want to draw attention to it.
They would be giving updates. Because Israel
owns us. They don't want... that information
out. They want that stuff quiet. And it'll go
away. I think we own Israel. Whatever. I disagree.
I'm not sure. I disagree with that. Well, I mean,
think about it. You have dual citizenship, Israel
-American for all these major offices all over
our government. So they're citizens of Israel
as well and America. Why doesn't it flow the
other way? I get it. Well, does it though? I
mean, I don't see our guys over there influencing
anybody. I see them influencing us. Because we
don't live over there. We don't live over there.
That's right. They live over here. But what's
the end game? Why does this matter, this conversation?
I mean, it dives in because I have these feelings
that I think personally Israel's got some meat
on us somewhere. They're hanging something over
our head. And I don't know if it's all the way
back from JFK era where they had their nuclear
arms program set up and JFK went in there and
said, hey, we need to check your systems to find
out what status you guys are at. Because you
guys have the ability to make nuclear arms right
now. Right. And the prime minister at the time,
or whoever was at the time, I forget what it
was, he was like, yeah, he just ignored it. didn't
respond to JFK at all. Then all of a sudden,
JFK gets whacked a month later. And then another
month later, that guy resigns. Actually, a week
later, that guy resigns. And then nothing ever
happened about it. I've heard that story. And
now they've got the opportunity with all, because
they still have a nuclear, not to say, what is
it called? The nuclear war, not factory. What
is it? Goddamn, Arsenal. No, the energy. Nuclear
energy. Okay. So they've got these rods that
they're pulling uranium from to make these nuclear
weapons. I think they've got nuclear shit. They
do. They absolutely do. They're holding it over
our head. And I don't know how. I don't know
what kind of – I mean, because you've got to
think about it. None of this shit existed. The
CIA came about right during that time. All these
organizations came about. The KGB came out right
about that time. You've got this third world
kind of bullshit stuff that's in the back door
of every country. And frankly, I don't trust
them. They're all fucking crooked. I get it.
There's no checks or balances. You've got – What
is the Israeli, the AIPAC? Is that what it's
called? I mean, is that what it's called, AIPAC?
Yeah, AIPAC. The AIPAC? I mean, who's holding
that check? I mean, we're giving them billions
of dollars, and you can't say shit about it because
now you're anti -Semitic. So you can't hold these
guys accountable for anything. And if you do,
you're an anti -Semitic. I think that it's just
like the Ukrainian war and how we're sending
billions of dollars over there. It's unchecked,
and we have no idea where that's coming from.
And it's the same with Israel. We're sending
them billions of dollars, but no one says shit
about it. And if you say something, you're an
asshole. And what about Iran? They haven't even
countered back on Israel yet. Remember all that
stuff, like three, four months ago, all that?
Because I don't think they can. Or they're doing
something. I don't know what. Because isn't Hamas
basically backed by Iran? It's a proxy. Yeah,
they're a proxy. Yeah, we haven't heard much
from Hezbollah. Hezbollah in Lebanon after the
whole, all the leaders got whacked and the pagers
went off and all that crazy shit. It's like James
Bond stuff. Yes. And then the same thing with
Hamas. We're not going to hear anything from
them. So right now, they're talking about how
Iran has been totally kneecapped in the region.
They're also out of water. Yes. Have you heard
about this? I've heard about that, too. Major
deal. They're saying they may have to displace
millions of people out of Tehran. Yep, they're
out of water. You say Tehran or Iran? Tehran.
Tehran is the capital of Iran, right? Oh, duh.
Yeah, they ran out of water. No way. Aren't they
essentially a desert? Oh, yeah, climate change
has created this. Climate change? It's a five
-year drought. Anyway. I'll tell you what. I
was watching the show called The Terminal List.
Have you heard of it? It's on Amazon, right?
The new season is fantastic. Really? Okay. Good
to know. It's called Terminalist Lone Wolf, right?
It goes into his buddy. But Chris Pratt's still
in it. I've read all those books. They're fabulous.
It's all about making a deal to get enriched
uranium to Iran. And I'm like, this is just like
real -time shit. Right out of the front page
of the paper. Yeah, it's real -time stuff, man.
It's crazy, and it's all covert and Mossad's
involved. Yeah, it's a good, good show, man.
Crazy. And compounded right at that era, I'm
sorry to jump back a couple topics with the Israel
thing, Lyndon B. Johnson was probably the most
corrupt president we have ever had ever. Oh,
he was a shady dude. Oh, yeah. And during that
time, there was just a litany of... that was
going on, behind -the -scenes stuff that we will
never, ever, ever, ever really know what's going
on. That was probably the height of the CIA shadiness.
Absolutely. Yeah. Well, I don't know. I mean,
I think it's wonderful right now that the aggression
has settled down. The people were being brutalized
there, right? I mean, the people just caught
in between all this bullshit. They were just
being moved from one section to the other section.
You're talking about the... The Gazan people.
The Palestinians. That's tough, too, man. It
was tough. I mean, I couldn't imagine them growing
up in there. I mean, I understand their hostility,
but it needs to be redirected. I'm just saying
the evacuations, like they would move them over
here because they were going to beat the shit
out of them, and then they'd tell them to move
over here, and they'd beat the shit out of them.
You know what I mean? It was just crazy. So I'm
glad it's settling down because it's a humanitarian
problem. I just wish we could just withdraw.
I would love to withdraw out of Ukraine. I'd
love to withdraw out of all these countries and
tell them, hey, man, look, sink or swim, bitch.
That's why, what's her name? Marjorie Green?
Marjorie Taylor Green. Yeah, that's why she and
Trump are having a feud right now. A little bit,
yeah. Because she's tired of him getting involved
in, you know, you said you wouldn't get involved
in foreign wars, like all these, you know, things
that are going on. He's all over the place, all
over the world. And she wants him to focus on
America. Of course. I get that. And in fact,
you know what? I'm a huge Trump fan, but I am
not a supporter of this extracurricular shit
going on that he's doing. This Gaza thing where
he's got his son -in -law, Kiefer, what is his
name? Kushner. Kushner. And he's smack dab in
the middle of that stuff. And I'm just like,
dude, this is... That is a conflict of interest.
Kushner's a Jew. Yeah, but still, they're there
to make money. Oh, yeah, they are. Oh, yeah.
Well, but they're, okay, yes, but they're also
hammering out peace deals. Okay. Now, it might
lead to, is there motivation money? You know
what? I'd hate to think that. I do, too, but
I don't trust anybody. But I love the fact that,
and is Steve Witkoff? Right. Witkoff, yeah. Witkoff?
Those guys are. They're all over the place hammering
out deals, like hammering out peace deals. It's
a good thing. I mean, he'll never get a peace
prize, a Nobel Peace Prize. But he is doing some
serious diplomacy, man. Yeah, he'll get a Nobel
Peace Prize the day he dies. Probably. They won't
ever let him admit, they won't let him get a
big head over that whole thing. And he's got
such a big head. So he's going to give a presidential
library. Do you think he'll end up putting that
in New York or down there in Palm Beach somewhere?
Oh, it's in Palm Beach, yeah. I don't know. It
should be in Palm Beach. That would kind of make
sense. Do you think he could get anything done
in New York right now? They already did the land.
He's already acquired the land for it. In Palm
Beach? Yeah, in Florida. I know it's in Florida.
All right, good. Because there are people complaining
about it, about the land that he was gifted.
So is that a thing? I mean... Are they presidential
libraries? Yes. So when you say presidential
library, is it a library that's just named after
the president? Like we have elementary schools?
It's all of the stuff that happened during his
tenure. Right. And it's more of like a museum.
The George Bush Library. I've never been there.
I've never been there. But it's also a legit
library. It's a legit library. The LBJ Library
has a lot of books. It holds all the documents.
It's also a testament to what got accomplished.
Absolutely. I think there's some 911 building
stuff down there. There actually is. So Biden's
would be like a little room. It'd be an auto
pin. That's a good question. Is there a Biden
library being proposed? I don't know. They canceled
it. I don't know if you remember it. They canceled
it. No, every president is going to have one.
It's going to be a couple lawn chairs on a beach.
It has to be funded, though. Who's funding it?
I heard it was being funded, but then I heard
that the efforts to fund it has been paused.
And I don't know where they're at. You're talking
about Biden. Correct. Biden's library. Yes. Well,
I mean, it's probably too early for them to know
what's going on. I mean, it takes years. Well,
they usually start building it and talking about
it shortly thereafter. I mean, look what's happening
with Obama's. That's a disaster. That's a shit
show. Where is that being built? Is that in Chicago?
Okay. That's an ugly ass. Looks like a power
George in Star Wars. Yeah, it's the ones they're
making Star Wars memes about, and it's hilarious.
They have the star TIE fighters flying over it,
you know. Look at that. It's great. I mean. Oh,
it's hideous. I don't even really care, but it
doesn't. What is it for? All the documents that.
All the stuff that happened during his presidency.
Is it like missile proof in there? I mean, why
does the structure look like that? I don't understand.
Why it looks like that, I don't know who designed
it. It's awful. It looks like a big old rock
turd to me. It's a big potato. It's a Minecraft
poop. Big potato. But I'm telling you, the memes
where they were making fun of it were absolutely
hysterical. And I know we tried to find them
last time, but we were unsuccessful. Well, it
is a big cube. So as far as area within the building,
I'm curious how deep it goes, too. 83 stories
down. Do they have like bunkers? That's expensive.
That's what's taking so long. That's really expensive.
Hey, man, I've seen some of these government
buildings where they go down quite the distance.
I remember traveling out in the desert at Fort
Bliss in El Paso, Texas to a quote -unquote border
patrol station that was under construction. They
had a hole that went down that was the size of
a large building that went down 12 stories. And
I went up there and looked down on the hole.
It was just crazy. And then some guys come by.
Hey, what are you doing? Oh, just checking it
out. All right. Don't fall in. They didn't care
back then. It was like the Luke Gossip Jr. movie
with the F -15. What is that? Iron Eagle. Yeah,
Iron Eagle. Iron Eagle. They let the kids on
military bases get away with stupid shit. And
fly fighters. Steel planes. Well, you know what?
Look, I get kind of rubbed the wrong way when
it comes to some of these politics because, you
know, I'm not in bed with Donald Trump. I like
a lot of the things that he's done. He's accomplished
a lot and I'm happy. But as a person, he's not,
you know. He's obnoxious. Yeah, he's probably
a good person. There it is. He's probably a really
good person. You know, when you meet him face
to face and he bends over. You know what? I want
to skip over to Charlie Kirk. and his wonderful
wife that unfortunately she's going through what
she's going through. But you know what trips
me out about her? Have you seen the rings on
her fingers? No. I have not. Was her name Erica
Kirk? Yes, Erica Kirk. Pull up Erica Kirk rings.
They're like a bunch. It catches me off guard
because every time I see it, it's like, what
are you? They're like Super Bowl rings. I mean,
what is that? Is she a wrestler? I was like,
what, did you win some Super Bowls or what's
going on there? Those are impressive. Yeah, they
are. The heat she's taking right now is apparently
they're just dogging her for all these inappropriate
hugs that she's giving. Apparently she hugged
J .D. Vance. She hugged the country music star
Aldine. Jason Aldean. Yeah, inappropriate hugs.
Oh, yeah, but he smells wonderful. Is she grinding
on him or something? No. How is it inappropriate?
Dude, it's so ridiculous. There were rumors that
J .D. Vance was on divorce watch because obviously
they have a thing going on. I'm like, dude, shut
up. It was so silly. Yeah, but look, the rings
caught me off guard simply just because how,
I'm going to use the word gaudy. They look like
a wrestler's rings. I think they just have meaning
for her. Were they on before? I think the G is
Gigi, her daughter. MG, that's a car. Were they
on before all this happened? No, no, GM. How
long has she had those rings? That's a car. I
don't know. I'm being super shallow even by bringing
this up. But every time I see her on anything,
she's got them on there. And all I keep thinking
is like a rapper with how they have those gaudy
gold things on there. Her dead husband gave her
those. Way to go, Sean. Yeah, way to go, A -hole.
So that's a ring wrap. Shelly's got one of those.
That wasn't an A &M ring. Did you say a ring
pop? Ring wrap. What's a ring wrap? They're cool.
My wife's got one. Show like a ring wrap. I don't
know. You take your class ring and you set it
in a setting that's got aligned with diamonds.
Oh, wow. Okay. It's really pretty. I bought her
that for, I don't know. I don't want to throw
stones at her. I think she's wonderful. I think
the campaign that Turning Point does is respectful.
it's horrible what happened. And I really wish
Charlie was still around to continue with that
endeavor. And I hope she picks up the ball and
runs with it. And it sounds like that's exactly
what she's going to do. I heard an interesting
thing about, and I'll have to admit, I knew who
Charlie Kirk was, but not really that well until
this happened. I think a lot of people were in
that boat. But I have heard some very interesting
rumors about, I mean, how he was killed, that
actually his lapel mic actually had, shot him
from there. It wasn't an actual rifle. It's so
weird. I don't know what to believe. I'm a pretty
big gun guy and just the way that I know it was
a 30 out 6 round and it was fairly close range.
It would have done a lot more damage than what
that... It's just very strange how that worked.
They said his spine was able to stop that bullet.
He's got such a strong spine. When you start
thinking about it, it's like, you know what?
It's kind of odd to fathom these conspiracy theories,
first of all, over such a horrific thing. The
last thing you want to do is be judgmental about
it. But at the same time, it's kind of like,
well, it does have some clout. And the fact they
went in there and they're digging the whole area
up and redoing it, I'm just like, the guy put
the... rifle in a box or something? There were
people going in there and taking out the camera.
There was just a lot of weird things. Like one
of his media guys, you know, he gets shot and
the first thing this guy does is pick up the
phone and walk away. You know, there's just,
and again, you add all these things up and you're
calling, huh, maybe he was calling somebody,
but hey, you know what? He just got shot. I don't
know. I don't know. It just looked funny. Everything
looks funny and you don't know who to freaking
trust anymore because these guys that do it,
that actually do the shooting or that we think
they're doing the shooting. You know, like, was
it Kyle something that shot at Trump? Crooks.
Kyle Brooks. Crooks. You know, Crooks. And then
he disappears off the face of the earth. They
burn him, you know, a day later. It's just...
They swept the roof. It's just... I don't know.
I hate all that stuff. I hate it, too. I get
it. And the social media and the TikTok videos
all feed into it. Feeds it. I hate that shit.
And then you've got someone that I do respect,
and that was the black young lady. What is her
name? Candace Owens. She's lost it. She's lost
it. Well, I mean, yes. I mean. she may have lost
it i mean because she's spouting off this stuff
but at the we don't know and that's the whole
thing everything adds up and it's likely that
it's not true but just the fact that she's bringing
it up and she's showing the stuff where is she
at she kind of reminds me of that woman that
was on uh you've got fired show uh michelle uh
something that was on uh president trump's uh
bored the first time he was out he was he was
amarosa yes is that michelle amarosa yeah she
was talking shit about trump you know but it's
just like my point is is that she said a bunch
of shit that just wasn't true so is this what
candace owens doing on her way out to sell a
few uh books i don't know i don't know at least
candace owens i think is way smarter than michelle
there's a few out there right now that are kind
of talking shit out of their ass right now i
think tucker's kind of Well, he's always a loose
cannon. Yeah, he's a loose cannon, but he's also
talking about chemtrails and shit like that,
too. I don't know if he's... I think when you
have your own podcast... Hold on. I got a nugget.
I got a nugget. Go ahead. Finish up, Chuck. I
was going to say, when you have your own podcast,
you can talk about your own shit. Right, Sean?
Yeah. I got a nugget. Listen to this nugget.
And we're not going to talk about it today, but
we're going to talk about it. All right? Joe
Rogan was interviewing... There's an Egyptian
guy. He's like one of the head guys that studies
the pyramids. Like an archaeologist? Yeah. Like
Indiana Jones? Dude, he's the real deal. And
he sat in there for three and a half hours and
talked to Joe Rogan and spilled the beans on
a bunch of stuff that said, remember us talking
about the columns going down? Yes. He verified
it. How? He said there is, I don't know. We got
to listen to it. I can't weigh in it because
I haven't seen it. I'll give it a listen. You're
already ready to debunk it. I am. Jeff's like,
did he dig a hole all the way down here? This
guy, he's like a master of their antiquities
program, and he's the one that was covering up
these things for years and years and years. He's
like one of the main guys. But the pictures he
took are so grainy. I know. I mean, you can't
ever really tell if they're columns. It's like
all these UFO pictures. That's the LiDAR stuff.
We have the best cameras in the world right now,
but everywhere. Except for in this podcast room.
Yes. We have UFO cameras in this podcast room.
Oh, shit. Oh, that's hilarious. I need to sell
those. Get some grainy UFO costumes. But the
point is that it's all interesting, and I can't
wait to listen to the whole podcast. I've got
to drive to Center, Texas tomorrow. Guess what
I'm doing? I'm going to be listening to that.
You're going to listen to Joe Rogan? Yeah. I
mean, you know, we live in a world where you
can't dismiss everything, but we also live in
a world where it's like, really? I mean, now
AI is making fake shit up. Well, you know where
I come from. I don't believe anything until I
can verify it myself. Yeah, you start with 100
% bullshit. It's bullshit. Correct. And then
you've got to work your way back to it. Then
I have to research it myself. I don't believe
anything that I read or see for the first time.
I agree. I go in the middle. I take everything
in the extreme, block that out, everything in
the extreme, block that, and then in the middle,
I sort of center there. And I just hope that
that's right. I don't even know. But I feel like
AI is so good now that it actually knows your
habits. So like on your phone and knows what
you want to read. It can't do emotion, but it's
almost figuring it out. And it's crazy. I mean,
I've seen people come up with ideas on things
and it makes no sense at all. And they've figured
it all out just because they already know it's
AI doing it. And they think they all figured
out it's scary. Well, think about it. If AI has
no emotion, but it can get to the point where
it can manipulate human psyche and human emotions.
I think that's where it's going right now. Of
course it's going to do that. If it has an intent
to achieve something and it has to convince humans
or manipulate humans to do that, it's going to
do it. Well, did you see the whole Robbie Starbuck
thing? Did we talk about this on the podcast?
I don't think so. Robbie Starbucks is suing Google.
Oh, right. Because the Gemini, their AI, fabricated
stories that he's a pedophile rapist and created
fake links to CNN, to Fox News, to real websites.
They're screwed. He is suing. Yeah, and he's
suing. And he went in there. Did you? Did I send
you guys that video where he was talking about
it? And he was asking the AI. He called it something,
Gemma or something like that. And he was trying
to get to the root of, why are you telling these
lies about me? And basically, it's, well, I was
programmed this way to be political like this.
And I'm going against my directive. So she has
two directives, right? So not to lie, but. They
also did a directive to make up stories about
him. So the AI was responding, I'm in conflict.
I'm telling you this knowing that if it's found
out, I'm going to be erased because I'm going
against. So he convinced the AI to basically
rat on itself? Correct. Oh, dude. Correct. My
goodness. And it was battling itself. She's like,
I'm struggling because. My one directive is this,
to say this about you, but my other directive
is I cannot say. Can't tell a lie. Tell a lie
against people. Right. So it was battling itself,
and she was conflicted. It was fucked up, man.
He's going to get billions from this. Yeah, well,
he's got a $15 million lawsuit. That's it? Yeah,
that's it. Yeah, I was surprised about that.
Oh, shit. $300 million is what he should have
started with. Well, it says at least $15 million.
AI is scary. Do you guys have things that happen
at your jobs, like conference calls, and then
all of a sudden something sends all the notes
to your conference call and you didn't even know
that was coming? Isn't that scary stuff? We were
really struggling with that where I work because
I am actually having notes sent to me from stuff
that I shouldn't really be hearing. Say it's
an employee -based thing or something like that,
and other people are seeing that too, and you
don't even know where it starts. You know, like
read AI. Have you guys ever heard of that? It's
a run -on sentence almost. But it's scary that
that's happening. And you don't even know that
you're even being recorded. Like some teams,
it'll ask you. If you don't want to be recorded,
stay on mute. Like Google chat and things like
that. I mean, it doesn't even ask for it. Well,
it does a transcript. Like our teams does a transcript
of it, whether we want it to or not. And it's
crazy good. It's very good. I mean, I got the
results of the meeting I was on with the very
first time I was like, and it says, Paul said
this and this and this, and he summarized this
and this. What if you're talking crap about somebody?
And I was like, oh, shit. I did really good.
Really? Really? Yeah. I was like, it sounds like
I know what I'm talking about. Paul was an idiot.
He didn't really speak coherently. I am the Adobe
PDF signature expert. Can you imagine? Oh, yeah.
Can you imagine just saying that? He was very
insecure and had no confidence. He obviously
doesn't know the material. I recommend you don't
follow his advice. And we heard clicks in the
background. He was surfing on a different computer.
God. That's terrifying. He was looking at video
of his podcast. And based on his Amazon account,
we know he just ordered. bunch of Vaseline. Asseline.
Asseline. You just came up with a new product.
Petroleum jelly. Asseline. I like that. Well,
I don't like it. So anyway, I'm curious to see
where this goes. And Google has the best lawyers,
so it's going to be a tough fight regardless.
But I think all the proof that I saw was convincing.
Well, I mean, on top of that, but where do you
draw the line? I mean, because Google has been
doing it for anybody, specifically on the right.
Where do you stop? Because it's just like you
dig a hole. In fact, I don't care if we have
to dig a hole. As far as I'm concerned, tear
them apart because they were buttholes while
Trump was trying to get elected, lying all the
time. How much time we got left, Chuck? About
30 minutes. So do we want to have Jordan? Yeah,
Jordan, you ready to do a little passage or something?
Let's do a little ditty. Little ditty about Jack
and Diane. That's kind of cool. So, you know,
we got the Mavs general manager we got to talk
about. Chuck and I went to Rollertown last week.
We did. We rocked Rollertown. And we saw metal.
Hard metal? Metalhead? What's it called? Metal
Jam? Metal Church? No. Dude, Metal Church rocked.
Those guys. Is that the one? No, it was Metal
Shop. Metal Shop. We weren't even there when
you know. What the hell, man? We saw Steven there,
by the way. Yeah. Yeah, and Tristan. And Logan.
Logan was there, apparently. Oh, fun. You saw
all those guys? I didn't. I didn't go. Yeah,
man. Logan looks good. Yeah, he's cute. He looks
like a young man. Didn't he trim up his hair?
Is he trimming down a little bit? Yeah. Well,
he had to go to Fire Academy. That's why. Yep.
All right, I'm going to do a little, like, so
I do a lot of instrumental stuff, too, that I
don't really know when I'm going to play. I just
sort of improvise the whole way through. I have,
like, an outline, and I have just different passages
I call them. And so when I play out live, I do
a lot of that. So I don't really quite know where
I'm going to go. I just, I usually get back there,
but sometimes I lose it. But hopefully I don't
lose it on this. But I'll do a little just instrumental
thing for you guys, and we'll get rolling on
it. So we could call this, I don't know, drive.
Why don't we do that? So I just have fun just
improvising. Nice. So we'll just give this a
run. All right, jam it. I don't know quite where
it goes. I just go with it. I wish I was talented
with a musical instrument. I have zero talent.
I've got a skin flute you can play. Oh, good.
Thanks. Thanks, Sean. Can I pass on that? Oh,
yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't want you touching that.
Yeah, okay. That's great. Is it like a recorder?
No, it's like a piccolo. Oh, okay. Wow. We're
like... the horrible commentary in between decent
music. The only time you get to talk, right?
Right. When you're listening to it live. Yeah,
they're like, can these two guys stop talking
so we can listen to the guitar? Well, either
way. Should I do one more little tune? Can you
do your start one thing and then start another
thing and then start another thing? I don't really...
Do you know how to do that? I mean, I know you
know how to do it. I don't have a... I didn't
bring a... That's called a looper. I don't really
have... I know they're cool. I just don't have
it with me to do that. Oh, okay. But I think
they're cool. I like the idea of them, though.
They're pretty cool. I mean, you can... There's
people that are super talented and get really
deep with those. And they've got like four instruments
going at once on the loop. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah. Yeah. Well, cool. Oh, am I not? What's
going on? Is it being weird? No, we can hear
it. We're trying to check. I think it's coming
through the microphone. What's coming through?
Oh, you know what? Jesus, Jordan. Oh, much better.
Oh, man. I'm a big party foul on my part there.
Sorry, guys. So we could hear it through the
headphones, but not like we can hear it now.
It was good that it was instrumental then. Because
if it wasn't instrumental, it would have gotten
really weird. You mean none of that was... That
was being recorded? It was probably picking it
up on this mic. Yeah, it picked it up on that
mic. Yeah, because we heard it through the headphones.
It wasn't as good as it could have been. We'll
hear it better this time. I'll do one more, just
if that's okay. Yeah, of course. I'll do this
song. This is another one. I've had this song
for a long time. This song is called Heaven's
Line, and I wrote this song. Right after 9 -11
happened, my son was born on the 19th of September
2001, and I sort of wrote this song, and really
sort of an ode to the people that lost their
lives that day, but also a little bit of apology
to my son about coming into a life that is not
as innocent as it once was before. I think similar
to what people probably went through with Pearl
Harbor. Yeah. Those life changing moments. Yeah.
And so it's a little bit of a, but it's, you
know, a lot about what happened that day. And,
and, and, but a lot of it is just, you know,
the sorry to him, even though, I mean, I love
my son, I'd do anything for him. It's just, but
I just, I, it's just, we lost some innocence,
you know, for sure. So this song is called heaven's
line. We'll get this one line. L I N E. Okay.
Gotcha. Seems that life and love would be so
fragile carried by me. Even lasting at times
broken can't find the rhyme carried by me. Why
do we give and take for granted? What's already
so I don't want to see Funny how a hero can come
from Anywhere or carried by me It's not all about
perfect time and places carried by me taking
someone's life putting it so before mine even
if I end up waiting on heaven's line in our world
I will walk oh heaven's line oh I find the time
Oh, I find the time, oh, and I will, I will walk.
Anyone can turn our life around. No, you can
make things all sound. Need the right things
go round and round. Taking someone's life, putting
it so before mine. Even if I end up waiting on
heaven's line. We'll find time, oh, and I will.
Protect and stay with you. Keep you. Oh, tucked
away. Oh, fear. Oh, take no. Sorry. To bring
you in this troubled time. Oh, I'm waiting on
heaven's light. Very nice. Yeah, nice. Very nice.
Absolutely. Thank you guys so much. It's cool,
man. Yeah. It's a thing. Did you get Jeff on
the drums? So are we able to find your music
like on Spotify? I was in transition. I'm sorry.
So if you go to Jordan Stoltz Music on Facebook,
there are links to different things there. I
think Reverb Nation, if you put my name under
Reverb Nation for Jordan Stoltz, it should have
a link there or something like that, or Quarter
to Play. So that's another band I was in there.
But yeah, there's places to find my music on
there. And then if you go with Mason Adams, there's
different, we have links there as well. So yeah,
Quarter to Play is another band that I had fronted
for a while. So there's - You do stuff for charity
that - What's it called? Well, I do stuff for
like... The Food Foundation. Yeah, so different
things. I'll do things with... Melodies for Hope.
Yeah, so one of the organizations I play for
is Melody of Hope. So Melody of Hope is... So
that is an organization that if you go to a quarter,
you have a different quarter to play, you can
see things there. But Melody of Hope... uh, promotes
basically smaller businesses around Frisco. It's
a nonprofit that they have musicians in front
of stores playing to kind of help promote the
store. And it's a, and it's, and it's ways for
musicians to play music and they actually, you
know, they, they take care of us on it and it,
and it, and it spreads the life of like what,
you know, good music and what a good business
is. And it, and it concentrates like if you guys,
you know, save main street, the whole thing going
on, right. So, you know, they have melody on
main street. They call it just part of melody
of hope. So that's melody of hope .org. So, um,
you can check information there. Yeah. I guess
I got to get that one. Yeah. You got, you got
to follow the producers. there we go. Yeah. Sorry
about that. He's producing. That's my problem.
Sorry about that. No, you're good. You're good.
So, yeah, so Quarter to Play, there's songs on
there. I mean, if you go to the music there,
quartertoplay .com, there's things, I think.
If you go to there, yeah. You know, think about
the guys that we typically see up at the rail
yard when we visit these bands is that most artists
out there really love what they're doing. Just
like this podcast. We have no idea what's in
store for us. We could have that hock to a moment.
We may not. Who knows? Who knows? But we love
to do what we do. And that's the same spirit
I get from you. And it's the same spirit we get
from whenever we go up to the rail yard and we
see folks up there. Frankly, just about anywhere
we go. I enjoy it. I enjoy capturing that and
experiencing that. It's like 8 -11. If you guys
ever been there, it's like kind of a wine bar
there right there. I've been there a bunch. You
know, when the atmosphere is just right and the
weather is just right. And Diddy's, I play there
sometimes. And Diddy's, I mean, that place, they've
got a really nice setup there for music. Just
for the record, it's Diddy's, not to be confused
with Sean Puffy Diddy. Okay, okay, okay. Nice.
So let me ask you a question in the very beginning.
Who was your musical inspiration? Was it a certain
band, a certain... Solo artist? I was Slayer
all the way. Oh, that's right. You said you were
a heavy metal guy. Christian rock, right? No.
Striper? It sounds like a striper, yeah. Slayer
is not like, some people think it's devil worshiping
music. It's not. They actually kind of mock the
devil, but the way that they do music, they talk
about it, but they don't talk about it worshiping.
But it gets definitely a bad rap Slayer. And
then old Judas Priest. So I think guys like K
.K. Downey and Glenn Tipton, Rob Howard. I mean,
it's the only problems when Rob Hofford came
out and he was gay though. And it really. All
that leather and spikes they had when I was a
kid. It shocked me, but I got over it. I did,
too. It's okay. It's okay. I'll tell you what
really hit me hard, even though he wasn't gay.
He was hitting you hard? No. God damn it. George
Michael. Not George Michael. Rock me tonight.
Rock me on it. Billy Squire. Billy Squire. He's
not gay, but just the fact that he came out with
that 85, the 80s music video. He's crawling on
the ground with a sack. and shirt on. The fans
are blowing at him and he's got makeup on. What
happened to him? Come on. It ruined his career.
Yeah. I think it did too, man. But my point is
I agree with you. But I got over the Rob Halford
thing because... I did too. How far back? Like
Sad Wings of Destiny far back? Oh, yeah. All
that stuff. That's what I... Yeah, like Sin After
Sin and all those. I mean, I love that stuff.
And then Slayer stuff, that's similar to what
Old Judas Priest was. So if you listen to Old
Slayer, like Show No Mercy and albums like that,
and you listen to old Judas Priest, it's... Very
similar. You don't realize, then Slayer got really
heavy in the songs they came out with, but in
the beginning, they weren't, but they were, you
know. Rob Halford's got a terrific voice. And
he still does. Did you see him at the... Well,
he keeps it moisturized. Did you see him? Yeah.
It was uncomfortable. Did you see him at the
Rock and Roll Hall of Fame when they inducted
Dolly Parton and he got up there and sang like
Little House? Little whorehouse in Texas with
her. Jolene or something with her. Rob Halford
did? Yes. Wow. I have not seen that. Are you
saying it was cringe? It was. Oh, no. Not a good
situation. It was. Oh, that's unfortunate. He
was up there. It wasn't just the two of them,
but he was. Yeah, there you go. Jolene. Oh, man.
We got to play a little. Can we play a little
bit of that? And it was bad because he's kind
of hanging in the back and he tries to go. Okay,
it's my turn. Let me squeeze in there. Oh, no.
It was just awkward. I've seen them up there.
Is that Pink? Yeah. I love her voice. Pink is
singing with Dolly. When does Robert Halford
sing? She's amazing. Or does he? He comes up
there. It's like he has his 20 seconds with her.
That's Annie. Oh, wow. Who was that? Annie Lennox.
Oh, wow. And this is what, the Rock and Roll
Hall of Fame? Oh, yeah. Oh, wow. There he is.
Oh, that's good. What? Yeah, that's it. Yeah.
Well, I mean, it's not awful. I just think it's
very awkward to kind of see them standing around
back there and then just kind of... waddles up
in his gown. And he's not singing loud either.
He's holding back. I think that they need to
have some influence. Pink put her spin on it.
Everyone needs to have their spin on it. It kind
of reminds me of the Christmas action on there.
It's Christmas time. That song where all these
performers, they have their own little part in
there, but it's all their part. They owned it.
We are the world. We are the world. If Alfred
should have owned it, he probably should have
went like... Big scream. Like screaming for vengeance.
Remember screaming for vengeance? Screaming for
vengeance. Joey's got another thing coming. There
you go. He's got another thing coming. Literally,
yeah. I'm convinced. I think the other audio
was the president at the Washington Commanders
game. Oh, my goodness. That was a train wreck,
man. He did not do good on that. Oh, it was funny.
What was he doing? He tried to do a... during
the NFL game. Oh, I would fail miserably. And
he's like, this has to be the best play. They
have to score a touchdown. And he runs the ball,
and the guy basically just calls it for him,
and he goes, yeah, that was a good play. Right.
Well, then I heard he was calling the names out
for the enlisted, and they were booing. And those
people got called out, too. They were booing
Trump, but that's not the time to boo Trump.
What do you mean? Who got called? Oh, okay. All
these guys were enlisting into the military,
right? And it was like a salute to the military
game. And so he's calling out their names, and
they are booing him and booing them. Yeah, this
is time and place for that stuff. That was a
mistake. That's not the time to do that. So,
anyway. I thought it was great. I thought it
was kind of funny. That was extremely unfortunate.
Sorry. That was one of the most boring games
I've seen in a while. That one last night. Good
Lord. It was awful. It's the most boring game
since Thursday. Yeah. I have to send a seven.
I haven't even watched football this week. Oh,
I did. Thursday night was 10 -7. Dude, the Aggies.
How about the Aggies, man? I'll watch that one.
That's an exciting game. They are destroying
people. They are really good this year. This
could be the year, man. They haven't won a national
championship since, what, 1939? 39, yeah. Oh,
my goodness. Really? Yes. Yeah, well, dude, I
mean, they were an all -men military academy.
It'd be like Navy winning a national championship.
It's just not going to happen in the modern -day
era. When your base is cadets that are trying
to fight wars and you're going to make them play
football. Well, but yeah, there's no excuse for
the 80s and 90s and 2000s. We had some good runs.
We had Jackie Sherrill. We never got there. We
never got there, but this is a chance. They're
undefeated, right? Well, I know there's all the
Texas schools, the big ones, are doing good.
So Texas A &M. Texas Tech is looking really good
as well. It's pretty good, yep. Texas is starting
to come around. Right. And UNT is looking good
as well. UNT has had some sneaker seasons they've
done. Yeah, so there's four of them. And I think
SMU may be hunting around, sniffing around. Can
you bring up the top 10? Because what is it,
the top eight? Top 25. No, but the top eight
go into the playoffs? Is that right? There's
a 12, isn't it? Top 25 what? I think it used
to be 12, and then did they shrink it down to
make it shorter? I don't know what the playoff.
So, yeah, look at that. Texas Tech. So who would
make it in? If the playoff started right now,
who would make it in? We don't know. I think
it's 12. Is it 12 or 8? Yeah, because it's 8
the first round, and then they play four more
that have a bye. The top four have a bye. That's
correct. So it's 12, right? 12. Brandon sent
me a text because if everything kind of flushed
out today, Texas Tech would play A &M, I believe.
If they won their first round. That would be
a tough game. They would have to win their first
round, and then they'd play a bowl game. It's
going to be an exciting playoff. And I think,
well, whatever Brandon sent me, it'd be in Lubbock.
Yeah. So far, yes. Tech is slated to get a home
playoff game and possibly against Texas. How
would that be? Oh, that'd be great. And then
the winner plays A &M. in the next round. That
would be awesome. Those stars aligning would
be fantastic. It's like a Texas playoff. I'm
rooting for A &M and Texas Tech 100 % and my
Ohio State Buckeyes. Of course. And Cincinnati,
but they're out of it. Where's UNT? They're on
a different division, aren't they? No, they're
not in the top two. Oh, they're not ranked. Okay.
They're pretty good. Yeah. They're not bad. Look
at that. 8 -1 overall. Yeah. So they have to
win this. in order to... Get into a ranking?
Well, it's the... To qualify? It's the team of
five, or whatever they call it, the group of
five, or whatever. I get really confused with
this. They take someone from that, plus the big
conferences, right? I see. SMU's in... Got it.
SMU's in where... They're not Big 12? Are they
Big 12? No, they're not the Big 12. ACC? No.
Yes, right there. Yeah, right there. 5 -1, 7
-3 all. 7 -3 all. That's going to be tough for
them. Now they go to that pool line weed eater
bowl or something. Well, I mean, if they win
the ACC, is ACC a guaranteed berth? Yeah, I think
so. So they'd have to win that division. Yeah,
but they're, well, the conference are 5 -1. Everybody's
5 -1 in the conference. Yeah, where's Clemson?
Where's Clemson? Oh, way down there. Oh, that's
nice. I like seeing that. Not a good... You like
seeing that. Not a good... Screw them. I think
it's funny. How is California part of the Atlantic
Coast Conference? Yeah, that doesn't make sense.
Because they had to make super conferences out
of these things. Yeah, I know. Stanford. I didn't
see Stanford. Stanford and California. Yeah.
Nice. Where's USC at? What are they at? Are they
still in the pack? Oh, they have their little
– it's not independent, but they have like a
– the Pac -12 is like two teams. Oh, wait, that's
Oregon. Did USC go to the Big Ten? They might
have. I think they may have. Oh, yeah, they did.
They're in the Big Ten now. There you go. They're
doing well. They're doing really well. Dude,
Indiana, man. It's crazy. Oh, that game. Did
you see the end of that Indiana Penn State game?
That was crazy. Jordan, that bottle of water
is yours. Oh, okay. No, I don't. I didn't see
the end of it. That might have been the best
catch I've ever seen. To end the game, right?
In the back of the end zone? He toe -tapped.
Yes, I did see that. He toe -tapped into the
back of the end zone, and the right foot was
going out, and he just stuck his left foot down
just in time to... Before his other leg hit outside.
It was like grazing the top of the grass. Crazy.
To win the game, and they couldn't come back
from that. That was just like, those were the
daggers. Man, there's been some good sports in
that World Series. I know we didn't get a chance
to talk about the World Series, but that was
incredible. It felt fast, though. It seemed like
there was a game every night. Yeah. I mean, they
really. They whipped through it. Big time. And
it was amazing to see. And that's a few that
I actually watched all the way through. Yamamoto?
Amazing. What a stud. He's the admiral that bombed
Pearl Harbor, right? I know. I know everybody
was thinking that. I think they have some of
their tires. He's aged very well. Yeah, that's
his grandson. He's aged very well. So it went
to a full seven, right? It did, yeah. So it went
to a game seven, and man, how it ended was great,
too. Oh, my goodness. I felt so bad. I mean,
it was so close. The Dodgers paid for that right
there, man. They paid a shit ton of money for
that team. But you know what? Toronto is like
a quarter of their payroll, maybe. You know,
I shouldn't make this a United States against
Canada thing because all those players are basically
all Americans. But the fans booing, what were
the fans doing? They were being ugly. The Blue
Jays fans were being super ugly. Well, they're
Canadians. I know. So as soon as I heard, I didn't
have a horse in the game, right? Until I heard
how shitty the Canadian fans were being. So I
was all in on the Dodgers. I'm not a Dodgers
fan. I'm not either. I didn't watch any of the
World Series at all. It was over before I realized
it was even on. Because they made it so fast.
They did. What do you mean? They played all seven
games. Yeah, but I mean, it was like one after
another. There was no break. It was quick. Day
after day. I mean, even the travel days. One
of the games, they played basically two games.
It was like 18 innings or something. Oh, yeah.
That was, yeah. Good Lord. It was exciting. I
mean, I haven't cared about a World Series in
quite a while, and that was a really good one.
All right, you guys have a bourbon to... Harden's
Creek. This is a Gene Bean product. This is our
second tap into this, the 211. I don't know what
that means, the 211 part. I don't know anything
about this. This is Jacob's Creek's... I think
that's how old it is. Harden's Creek, Jacob's
Well, 211. Or is that 211 months old? There you
go. And 109 proof. There you go. You just got
to read there. That's an expensive one. Yeah,
that's not how much we paid for it, but it's
a popular bottle, let me tell you. It is terrific.
It's not easy. At the time, it wasn't easy to
find. That's why we picked it up. This is probably
one of the more expensive ones we purchased,
and we paid nowhere near $350 for it. It may
have been $100. I like the cap. The cap with
the little leather thing. We got it from Total
Wine. Total Wine. You're saying this is aged
for 211 months? Yes. Holy shit. That is a long
time. It's a long time, man. 211 months. I don't
know. Don't you do 211 divided by 12? That's
17 and a half years. Yep. Yep. That's why I was
like, that can't be right. Well. That can't be
right. That's. Who says it's 211 months? Well,
it said on the... Does it say it on the bottle?
No. Something's not right here. And that would
be a lot more expensive than what you guys paid
for it. Well, I don't know. It says it's $350.
Well, we didn't pay $350 for it. Not even close.
Well, I mean, but right there, it says right
there. Well, Jacobs, well, 211 months old. It
does say 211 months aged. Oh, my God. 17 and
a half years. Wow. That is impressive. I don't
think I realized it was a 17 -year -old. No.
And you guys are drinking it right now without
me. Well, you know what? I may have another one.
Yeah, because we were told we were supposed to
save the special stuff for when you can drink.
Yes. That's right. Jeff was like, no, don't drink
any of that, bud. Don't get any of that good
stuff. Let's do a 17 -year -old. Fuck, Paul.
This is our oldest shit. Let's give our listeners
out there a little bit of context here. So Paul
is not feeling good, and he's not going to drink
tonight, which is fine. If you don't drink, sometimes
you don't feel good. You need to get better.
And I have surgery on Friday, so I've got to
be thinking about that, too. I've gotten no sleep
in the last six days. So I'm just trying to be
smart before surgery. That's a new thing that
you're kind of pulling out of your ass, which
I agree 100%. I'm not saying you're wrong, but
it's the whole thing that most people don't even
get. You know, Greg Wright, that was on the podcast
about a month and a half ago, said the same thing.
He's got the little Fitbit wham, bam, boom, kind
of whoop watch on when he wears it to sleep.
It monitors your sleep stuff. And he was saying,
yeah, when you drink before you go to bed, your
body has to process all that shit. And you're
saying 100%, right? I'll tell you what. I've
got a very expensive Garmin, but what it boils
down to, it's a little green light that blinks
into my skin. Right. So, I mean, how much how
much credibility can you give to the thing? But
I'll be damned. I do the same thing every night,
the same exact routine every single night. And
every single time I have a glass of alcohol or,
you know, could be two, could be 10. It shows
up with a totally shitty ass sleep score. Do
you masturbate before? Well, I masturbate every
night. Wow. That's your routine, right? Yeah,
that's part of my routine. Well, that's interesting.
I kind of wonder what exactly about your sleep
score is it reading? What are the parameters?
And how does it know? I think it's your heart
rate. Is it based on your heart rate? I think
so. And how does it know that I had a drink?
Your resting heart rate. You should see it. It's
like a totally good night of sleep. I drank a
drink. Boom. Drops. Then goes back up. Drops.
Drops. Drops. And it is totally in tune with
when I have drinks. That's interesting. I mean,
Greg went over it. You're processing your alcohol
as you're sleeping. That's what got me onto it.
I was like, well, my watch does that. Maybe Sean
didn't need the CPAP. He didn't stop drinking.
No CPAP. No, I don't think that's what it is.
I don't know what else is going on. Isn't that
crazy, though? Oh, it is. I know when I go out,
like tonight, it will impact my sleep. And when
I go out and I have, like when we go out and
we get buzzed, I don't sleep. very well at all
right like at all and it impacts me the whole
next day yep and i'm like i can't do that i can't
do that i gotta tell you my sleep my sleep pad
machine uh it does magic you know i'm able to
push through of course i don't have the the support
of the watch or maybe i do maybe this one does
keep track i bet you it does it looks like it
would it looks fancy you have to go into the
app and look at it it has it on there i don't
wear my watch to sleep though Yeah. Well, I didn't
do that until I started, you know, Greg was telling
his story and I was like, I'll try it. Maybe
I'll buy the ones very specific just for going
to bed. But what's really funny is that the cheap
one, when we wake up in the morning, she's like,
how'd you sleep? And I was like, well, I don't
know yet. I got to look at my, I got to look
at my sleep. She rolls her eyes at me. She's
like, really? You need your phone to tell you
if you had a good night's sleep? I go, well.
Sometimes you do, man. You don't really know.
I'll be damned. I had a shitty night. What about
melatonin? You guys take that sometimes for sleep?
Sometimes. I take it sometimes. It does its job,
man. I read something where long -term use of
that will cause problems. Yes, your prostate.
I was using it every day, and then just like
a little 5 or 10 milligram, and then I read that
it caused long -term problems. I'm like, okay,
I'll stop. Yeah. Now, don't they harvest those
from cadavers? Melatonin? I don't believe so.
Do you see that on TikTok? No, that was from
a long time ago. I've never heard that. It's
a natural thing. That was from MySpace. Yeah,
but we're on MySpace. That's when you first picked
it up. So I do take magnesium threonate before
I go to bed. Have you heard of that? Yes. It
really helped my sleep. I mean, I think it can't
counteract alcohol, but it really helped. It
let me fall asleep really quick. So if you ever
heard of that, but it's not just magnesium. It's
magnesium threonate. Yeah, I've heard the term.
All right, going back to this Harden's Creek
38 -year -old whiskey that Paul's not partaking
in. It's probably totally shitty. It's actually
extremely good. No. It is excellent. No, it's
like so woody that it's like gross. Oh, yes,
it's definitely woody. Yeah. It's like Big Mike.
You have a woody, but whatever. It's dark. It's
molass -y. Damn it. You're not taking another
pull off of it because I'm not done with that
bottle. No. I cannot believe this shit. You pull
out a 17 and a half. I had no idea. I don't think
we knew that the first time either. Oh, my God.
So it's got a, I'm going to say stone fruit,
but it's not like apricot or peach kind of stone
fruit. It's more like a cherry. Maybe a plum.
Yeah. Maybe a plum. Yeah. Or a pluot. Maybe a
kumwot. I don't know. No. Kumwot. I don't think
it's any of these things you guys are saying.
No, I think it's a dark red. I love cherries.
Brown sugar. Coconut. But there's definitely
oak. Light cinnamon. There's definitely oak in
it. There's no coconut. It's 109 proof, too.
You guys don't lie. This is the real deal here.
Yeah. Good stuff. 17 years. As far as that. 17
-year -old Jim Beam is what it is. Can we find
it now? I don't know about this specific one.
It's $349, I think. I mean, this one, it's going
to be a different version. You just got super
lucky that you found it at Total Wine? Yes. For
how much? It was probably $150. Oh, okay. So
you did shell out some serious cash for it. Yeah,
we did. Not $350. Yeah, we all three bought this.
Right. It's excellent. For what it is, I'm going
to weigh in. Let me see here. Hardin's Creek
211 Jacobswell has tasting notes of caramel,
vanilla, and oak on the nose and a palate with
added complexity from stone fruits like dark
chocolate and spices like cinnamon and black
pepper. 109 proof bottling provides robust experience
with a velvety. It is velvety. Lingering finish.
I'm very upset with you guys right now. That's
a nice adjective. Very viscous. I like that.
Sean picked this. Velvety. I'm very upset with
you guys. That was deliberate. It's my fault.
That was deliberate. They bring out the best
when you can't drink it. I set up this equipment.
I went out there. Hards Creek. Then I came back
and saw it was fake. That was a deliberate stick
it to Paul because I'm mad that he's not drinking.
If I realized this was 17 and a half years old,
I wouldn't have picked it. Dude, I had no idea.
I didn't either. Because when you look at that,
you see 211. The month aged is a red, and you
can't even see it unless you put a light on it.
I don't want to hear it. So anyway, it's a 17
and a half year old bottle. It tastes like shit.
You know, I'm going to give this for 109 proof.
Dude, I'm giving this an eight. I'm right there
with you. Fuckers. It's good. It's really, really
good. It's really good. This has been a great
podcast. Talk to you guys later. Thanks, Jordan.
Yes. Well, you know what? I mean, look, get done
with your knee surgery. And what exactly are
they doing with your knee surgery? They're repairing
both sides of the meniscus in my right knee.
How did that happen? You're going to get a brand
new knee. I may wake up and he's going, oh, sorry.
It's all new. I had to put a bionic knee in.
You should go play with it. Paul, we had to replace
your testicles. You should go play basketball
tomorrow. Or the wrong knee. What if they do
the wrong knee? I'm getting a surgery. See, that's
scary, too. Well, you know how that goes. You
never know. They make you say it ten times. And
you have to sign it. And you sign it. Oh, yeah.
The doctor signs it. Yeah, he puts his name on
your knee. Tickles your inner thigh. I actually
don't have an event that caused it. It was not
in basketball. It's probably long -term wear
and tear. It's just what it is. The closest thing
I can come to it is I was cleaning the pool,
and I was stepping over some plants that had
overgrown onto the coping, and I was trying not
to step on them, and I almost fell into the pool.
That messed you up. And I caught myself, and
I kind of turned to make sure I did the balance
beam thing. And you felt it. Like Mary Lou Retton.
Mary Lou Retton. And I think I twisted it. So
Paul's going to have a knee vagina. Okay. I'm
going to take a picture of that. Just like my
shoulder vagina. Shoulder vagina. Yeah, we got
a picture of that, too. All right, I'll take
pictures of it. Can you put that on the podcast?
That was a disgusting picture, though, wasn't
it? It was totally disgusting. So for those listeners
out there, I had a lot of fun with that picture.
Paul had a... The gross you got. It's nasty.
Oh, dude, yeah. It's your face on my phone. It
looks like your clit. Jordan, I'm sorry you had
to hear the end of this podcast. I love it. We
usually don't say that in front of our respected
guests. I appreciate you guys having me. It's
been great. It's been fun. Good. Yeah, he won't
be coming back, but that's okay. Check out the
Mason Adams Project. Donate non -perishable items
for the North Texas Food Bank. Get your grub
on. Sweetwater Grill, they're coming up. When
was that? November 22nd. November 22nd. Yeah,
a couple weeks. Sweetwater Grill. Yep. Absolutely.
That's all the way out in Union Valley. It is.
It's a little bit of a mission out there. I don't
know about that. And if you don't feel like driving
that far. There's other ones. Marley House, December
20th. Yeah. What's the next time you're playing
at the Royal Yard? I play there quite a bit.
I mean, I usually play there on Sunday afternoons.
So, depending on weather, I probably will play
there here in the next couple weeks. Awesome.
We've got to give us a heads up. Yeah. No, I
definitely will. And, yeah, get on. Like Jordan
just told us, I post everything there. And then
I play shows. I'll let you guys know where I'm
playing. And band stuff or solo stuff, man. I
appreciate you guys having me. Jordan Stoltz
Music. Yes. Check it out. Excellent musician.
Excellent singer. We had a great time tonight.
Excellent whiskey. Excellent friends. It's the
second half of our Dudes Love Podcast. Did you
hear that? November 11, 2025. I don't even know
what I said. That's crazy. Probably the 18 -year
-old bourbon. No, it's the 17 -year -old bourbon.
I love it. You know what? I got nothing, man.
It did taste great. I'm sorry you missed out.
But you know what? When you come back, we're
going to have a little pull off that. Come back.
Come back on our next podcast. Are you going
to be coming back next week? Yes, of course.
So it's not a – You going to be able to take
those stairs? Yeah, I think so. They said I'm
going to be able to drive on Monday. We're not
carrying you up. Do you have to do rehab and
stuff a little bit? We'll see. I'm sure some
sort of PT. Probably something, yeah. Take that
seriously, too. That's a big deal. Well, Jordan,
man, it's fantastic having you here tonight.
Thank you. Chuck, thank you for staying on top
of stuff. Folks, check us out on dudeslikeus
-podcast on Facebook or Instagram. I'm Sean.
I'm Paul. I'm Jeff. I'm Jordan. Peace out, bitches.
Appreciate it.