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All right. Shoot. We're into the second week

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of November. November 11th, 2025, Dudes Like

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Us podcast. Chuck is at the helm with our back

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Mr. Producer. We have a special guest today.

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Another dude like us. Yes. We'll get into that

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in just a second. We've got a full, jam -packed,

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incredible show today. Lots of entertainment.

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For those first -time listeners out there, welcome.

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Thank you for checking us out. Check us out on

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And we also have some swag on dudeslikeus -woodcraft

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if you're into that kind of stuff. And we'll

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mail you a keychain. We'll see what happens.

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There you go. Happy Veterans Day. Happy Veterans

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Day. Absolutely. For some reason, I'm thinking

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like Marilyn Monroe should be saying that, you

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know, like, happy, happy birthday. Yeah, whatever.

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Dudeslikeus, I'm Sean. I'm Paul. I'm Jeff. Hey,

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I'm Jordan. Welcome to the show, sir. Yeah, we

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got a lot going on. So Jordan, Chuck, turn us

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on to Jordan. showed us some pictures, and we're

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like, oh, he's kind of nice. Turned you on. 100%.

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I was like, well, let's get this guy on the schedule.

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And so, hell, how long ago was that? Freaking

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Halloween last year, perhaps? I don't know. Something

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like that. Yeah, it sounds about right. He came

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over for karaoke. Yeah. Yes. One of our ventures

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over at the house. But we put him on this Dudes

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Like Us podcast schedule, and we got this thing

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set up, and it just kind of came up all of a

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sudden, which is kind of cool. And this is the

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first time we've actually have done this. We've

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had guests before, but we've never had entertainers.

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No, ladies and gentlemen. I know you're used

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to listening to Paul, but he's not a stripper.

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All right? No, I gave that up a long time ago.

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Well, now that you've got knee surgery coming

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up on Friday. It's really hard on the body. Stripping

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is hard. It's a lot harder than you guys think.

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The pole work. The pole work, for sure. Absolutely.

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A couple concussions, too. You've got to hang

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out of that pole. You can take pole lessons,

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too, and learn how to dance on a pole if you

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want. That's true. It's very true. Yeah, share

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your experience, Jordan. I personally won't get

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into all that, but I know that there's some classes

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you can get really good at it. I'll say Kim took

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it. For real? Yeah, in Las Vegas. Wow. At the

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Planet Hollywood Mall. Did you mount one in your

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house? Not yet. Not yet? You're ever hopeful,

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huh? You're saying there's a chance. Yeah. All

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right. So you're not a pole dancer, but what

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is your trade, Jordan? Well, so, I mean, obviously

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the guitar singing part is a big part of it,

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but I have to make like a living too. So I'm

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a telecommunications guy. So when your cell phone

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doesn't work somewhere, they call me to make

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it work, basically. Okay. So that's Cowboy Stadium.

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That's, you know. skyscrapers that's underground

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stuff it's kind of fun i get to see all sorts

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of interesting things and um go to a lot of places

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a lot of people may not see but it's it's also

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it's it's telecommunications so there's a lot

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of red tape you know and i do a lot of like police

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and fire radios but i also do like commercial

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like your 18ts and t -mobile too so okay interesting

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so you're dealing with a lot of different frequencies

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tons of different frequencies um A million different

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personalities. Is that the frequency, Kenneth?

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Yeah, I mean, you can go. Oh, my God. It definitely

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keeps you going, and I feel like I'm more like

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sometimes a counselor. So I have customers that

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get mad their phones don't work, so I have to

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tell them everything's going to be okay. Right.

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And we're usually able to do that, but you've

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got to be a good listener in this business for

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sure. You give a lot of hugs. A lot of shoulders

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to cry on. I'll jam some tunes for if I get to

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know the customers well enough. They'll let me

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come in and jam out for them or whatever I'm

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done. So that's what I do. So anyways. What's

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like one of the number one things that when you

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roll up on a job and there's some issues with

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the reception, what is the number one thing that

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you can fix it or that you notice that's the

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problem? Well, so usually what it ends up being

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is that people don't realize that. Being higher

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up in a building is actually worse. Like the

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way that it used to be, you'd think cell phones,

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let me get up on a mountain and then my phone

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will work. And back at a certain time, that was

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the truth. But now because so many people are

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using phones. It doesn't work that well. So you

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can have really strong signal, but it actually

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doesn't work because you're up too high seeing

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too many signals. So that's the number one thing

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I usually see. Oh, I see. You're competing with

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everybody else's. Yes, absolutely. So the signal

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isn't like a sphere. It's more of like a donut

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that goes out. I would say, yes, yes, exactly.

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A lateral, like a lateral donut. And so many

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people can only use it at so many times. When

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you get higher up, your phone doesn't – it tries

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to understand, but it still can't. There's just

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so much it's seeing. So people end up calling

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us to come in. We try to make a dominant signal

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in their building so they're not seeing so many

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signals. We make it strong enough to where they

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only see the one signal we want them to see.

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Fascinating. Interesting. If it makes sense.

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Yeah. And that's for commercial cellular stuff.

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Public safety, like police and fire radios, we

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do the walkie -talkies and everything that kind

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of happened with 9 -11. Then all that stuff happened

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with the firefighters and police, 9 -11. So there

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was a big initiative to get buildings covered

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for police and fire radios because a lot of those

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guys, ladies, they died that day because they

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couldn't communicate. Right. So that frequency

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is what, the 310 channel around that area, 310

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hertz? It's usually, I mean, it... 450 megahertz

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up to like three gig. So it's a pretty wide spectrum

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that you can get into. So I recently, like when

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I say recent, like last week, I purchased these

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walkie -talkies, coincidentally. Sean's a prepper.

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So, you know, I got them specifically because

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they were referred to as watching on a podcast.

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And they were like, well, these things are 10

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watts. And he says, this guy was like, you know,

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I own $500, $1 ,000, $3 ,000 walkie -talkies.

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And it's like, I cannot believe. they're selling

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these on the internet for like 25 bucks each

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you know and it's not like he's making any money

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off of it he was referring it because it's a

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good deal so I ordered two and turned around

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and then I ordered The upgraded one. Because

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I ordered two for like $55, I guess, after it

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got delivered. But then I got the upgraded one,

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which is a little over $100. And it just offers

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a little bit more GPS. But the one thing that

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they did block out is specific frequencies, which

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are those emergency police channels. So the question

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I pose on you, are these things jailbreakable?

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I don't think so. I think in a certain. Do you

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want the police frequency? He wants to listen

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to it. I want access to it. I paid for. There's

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apps on your phone. I think there's. Always a

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way to probably do that if you really wanted

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to get into that. But that usually will end up

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opening up a whole other can of worms where you

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get the FCC really upset with you. Not only police

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and fire people, but you get the FCC, which is

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the Federal Communications Commission, which

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you guys know that is. What about like the ham

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radio operators? So I'm a ham radio guy too.

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So I have an FCC license. I'm a big, like, I

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have old radio stuff, new radio stuff. I'm just

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a big RF kind of geek, really. So the cellular

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world for me is just kind of fun. I have, you

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know, specific licenses for ham radio and yeah,

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they get, you don't like when you have, cause

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you, I know the radios you have, it's an unlicensed

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spectrum that anybody can use and it's fun and

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it works and it's great. But if you start getting

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into some other banjo, you get some pretty bitchy

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people and they'll start getting mad at you.

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So I'm interested more in just kind of voyeurism

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than participating in any conversation. CB radio.

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That's still, I mean, that's still for real.

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So you guys remember CB radio? It's still going.

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And it's actually, it's even more dedicated now

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because so many people have cell phones. So you

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get the CB radio guys are the really diehards.

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And there's like a whole, it's a whole thing.

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I mean, it's fun. And what's the range? What's

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the range on that? Because we got into a debate

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on how far your walkie -talkies you just bought

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can actually, you know, can reach. And they were

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talking about CB radios can reach like 90 miles

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or something crazy. I mean, like what? You can

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go really long. Kind of just with the opposite

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of saying, so with cell phones, getting really

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high up in a building is actually bad. But for

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CB radios and point -to -point radios, like what

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you're talking about, getting high up is actually

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good. Better. Yeah, the higher, the better. So

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you can get a radio that's four or five watts,

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can talk 40, 50 miles. If you say you're on a

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rooftop, like a rooftop here, and you're talking

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to another guy on a rooftop, and it's unobstructed,

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so there's nothing in the way, you'd be amazed.

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But what happens is it's trees, it's other buildings.

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It's billboard signs. It's all sorts of things

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that kind of limit that. So generally, your radios

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probably go a couple miles before they start

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having problems, especially in a neighborhood

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like this, just because there's so much clutter

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around. When I first got them out of the box,

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I was just fagging out, man. I just took them

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out. I had to turn every knob and learn it. I

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left one in my daughter's room, and then I went

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to Kohl's. The whole time, I'm like, heading

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south on Hillcrest, heading west on Rolliter.

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She's like, copy that, copy that. Just dorking

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it out. But I got all the way down to the Kohl's

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parking lot, and we still had continuity. It

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started to get really fuzzy once I turned that

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corner. But it still worked. Yeah, yeah. That's

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pretty amazing. And that's like what? That's

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like, what, two, three miles from here, maybe?

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It's a mile and a half, two miles. Miles, okay,

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okay. Yeah, you're just right on the corner.

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There's a lot of houses and trees. But if you

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got on the rooftop of Kohl's, you'd be. Oh, okay.

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That's the key. I think it was 156 hertz -ish,

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154, 156. Oh, so that, yeah, VHF. Yeah, I know

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exactly where we're at. A lot of them are 450

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megs. They're a little higher, but yeah, the

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VHF ones, those are cool. Yeah, yeah, but I could

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see how you could get into some weird, there's

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a lot of licenses down there too. You drift into

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them sometimes. Sometimes your radio will sort

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of... That's what I was trying to find out. They

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don't have a whole lot of information out there.

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Maybe that's by design, but I kind of want to

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know what those are. Not that I'm going to hit

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them, but what exactly are they? I will give

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you exactly where to go. So if you can remember

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this, radioreference .com. So type in radioreference

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.com. It'll tell you every single frequency that...

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You're going to have to create a login, but it's

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like a Wikipedia for radio frequencies. It's

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pretty cool. If that covers everything you'd

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ever want to know about radio. I mean, it's as

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good as what people input, kind of like Wikipedia.

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Right. So, I mean, but you could usually tell

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you, you know, what frequencies does Frisco Police

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use. RadioFrequency .com. Yeah. Yeah. RadioReference.

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RadioReference .com. Yep. We've got it up on

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the screen right there. Yeah. So, I mean, you're

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going to have to go do a little, you know, but

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this will tell you if you want to know what.

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Frequencies, you know, Frisco School District's

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using, you can pull it and you can actually find

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it. I mean, you got to search around a little

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bit, but there's a whole bunch of topics. There

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are things you can learn about. It's just fun.

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Oh, yeah. Ultimately, I think we'll use them

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if we ever go camping. We'll use them for something

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like that. Well, can't we be third -grade imbeciles

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and all have one in our houses and all talk to

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each other at night? That's what it's about.

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Big Jeff, Big Jeff, come in. Big Jeff, over.

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Well, it'll work. Why can't we all talk to each

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other? It'll work from my house to Jeff's. It'll

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work from my house to Chuck's. Just do a conference

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call on the phone. Because this is more fun.

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Yeah. And you're pushing and holding. Making

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the noise? Oh, yeah. These things only work cell

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phones as long as you have the technologies there

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and the cellular networks there. Those point

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-to -point radios generally always work. As long

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as you've got battery power, you can talk. As

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soon as you lose GPS signal, all your cell phones

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aren't going to work anymore. Everything will

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be done. So those radios that you're talking

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about, that could be back. That's going to be

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what it is back again. kind of it amazes me is

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all the frequencies that are around us all the

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time you know always always just it can't be

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good it can't be good for our bodies it really

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i mean there's something to be said about living

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in a faraday box so to speak where you protect

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yourself like that that's you know cancerous

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stuff i don't know that probably took a leap

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for their oil hat Whatever. I mean, I don't know.

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But just the chronic exposure, you know, and

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I don't know what's bad, but I mean, when does

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it become bad? Anybody watch Better Call Saul?

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Yes. Where the brother lives in the Faraday house.

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Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. He's a freak. Oh, that's

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right. Don't bring your keys in. Don't bring

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your phone in. Yeah, yeah. Put your phone in

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the mailbox. Yep. Yeah. There are people like

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that. I think Sean might be one of them sooner

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or later. Maybe. Yeah. I enjoy it, though. He's

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going to start with a little cap. All right,

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so we were talking about the frequencies and

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how I'm tripping out on my new purchase, and

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it just so happens, what a quinky dink, that

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that's what you do. Thank you for that reference,

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the radioreference .com. I hit that up. So let

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me ask a question. So you said you're a ham operator.

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So you live in, you were saying Little Elm. You

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live in Little Elm. So do you have like one of

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those? Not a gigantic tower, but you've got to

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have like a 15 -foot. I've got some stuff. Yeah,

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yeah. And I deal with HOAs, too, that don't like

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it. That's why I wanted to bring that up because

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when I was on the board or whatever, the HOA

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board, and there was a ham operator guy that

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wanted to put up a tower. And we were like, dude,

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I'm sorry. You can't do that. It's in the bylaws.

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And he was like, I provide a great service, and

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I can provide. Are you able to hide it? Like

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put it on a tree? No, like put it on a tree.

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Sometimes a little. bit but it's the same idea

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you want to be at that you want to be high up

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in the air uninstructed so you want a big antenna

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on the roof and it's and then you everybody sees

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it i felt so bad for him because he was such

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a passionate and i think it's so cool right and

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i think it is a good how tall are they do they

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need to be well it depends on the frequency that

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you're actually trying to use so so the idea

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is lower the frequency bigger the antenna so

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for like we'll say like CB radios, like 27 megahertz

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that to get an antenna that actually will transmit

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that signal completely optimally is like 36 feet.

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Oh, good Lord. But they do things like they add

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a coil and stuff in them. They wrap like, you

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see like a, like it's like on a, on a car and

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a bunch of those little coils and stuff. It's

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a TV station. Yeah. Trucks. Yeah. They'll have

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things. And so they're kind of, they're kind

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of cheating trying to get like as much as they

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can. Yeah. But by, yeah. But I mean, the idea

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is really, yeah. Like, 36 feet yeah so i mean

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like 800 megahertz i think the antenna needs

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to be like 12 inches so it's totally gets different

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then higher frequencies like gigahertz stuff

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you start talking antennas that are four to six

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inches and then even smaller than that now what

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if you just protruded out of your rooftop you

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make you just 36 foot antenna on the yeah no

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no no i mean you have let's say you have well

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you start for the first floor and you just kind

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of Maybe start outside on the exterior and you

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mount it to the side of the building. So it could

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be that stripper pole type thing? Absolutely.

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My point is, you may not go 36, but what if you

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went to the height of the house and maybe five

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foot over that? Yeah, and you can still do that.

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And then they have things, they call it like

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quarter wave, half wave, three quarter wave.

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So they're not fully 36 feet, but they still

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transmit part. The frequency is not as optimally,

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but then you have things like you can add power.

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transmit more Watts to kind of make up for the

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smaller antenna. So, and then you're just throwing

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more power, expensive equipment at it. Oh, what

00:15:30.470 --> 00:15:33.129
you're having to do. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean,

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CB stands for constantly buying. Right. So yeah,

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that's what, I mean, yeah, it's really bad. Yeah.

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So, so what's the, what's the process getting

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an ham operating license, ham radio operating

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license. So it's, it's all done basically volunteer.

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So ham radio, has like clubs in certain cities

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you know like you could go to i think denton

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and that covers like a lot of denton county guys

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and they meet a couple times a month and they

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distribute these tests that are monitored by

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the fcc so you take a test it asks you several

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questions about electronics antennas um really

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more rules so you don't get into trouble you

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know so why why all the testing and what is the

00:16:15.129 --> 00:16:19.659
fcc care They care because they don't want you.

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There's certain power restrictions that you can

00:16:22.700 --> 00:16:25.940
easily exceed if you want to. And I will not

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confirm or deny that I have done that to get

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more power so more people can hear you. there's

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big fines against that. And if you get, if you

00:16:34.419 --> 00:16:37.139
become an FCC, I have an FCC license, a ham radio

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operator, they expect you to respect that. And

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it's also, they have specific bands that only

00:16:42.279 --> 00:16:44.100
ham operators are supposed to be in like what

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you're talking about. We can't drift into certain

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bands like they're, they're licensed. So they

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do it to regulate. They just want to try to regulate.

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So you don't get somebody coming in and starting

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a rate. Is it to make money? I think it is in

00:16:56.330 --> 00:16:59.129
the end to some, yes, yes. I mean, to buy more

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stuff. They're charging for licenses, you're

00:17:03.110 --> 00:17:05.589
saying? Well, they don't charge. I think with

00:17:05.589 --> 00:17:08.369
the FCC, I think if I remember my ham radio license

00:17:08.369 --> 00:17:11.029
for 10 years costs like 100 bucks or something.

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So it's not for money. I don't think it's for

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money. So what's the regulations for? What are

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they trying to prevent? Prevent people starting

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stuff like a radio station and just transmitting

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on any frequency they want. people that want

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to make sure that there's a certain way you're

00:17:26.900 --> 00:17:28.759
supposed to talk on the radio. Some of it's kind

00:17:28.759 --> 00:17:30.859
of old school stuff. Like they don't, there's

00:17:30.859 --> 00:17:33.599
a certain, like there's like, you know, 10, four,

00:17:33.640 --> 00:17:36.059
10, seven, 10, eight, these 10 codes that you're

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supposed to follow. So it's, you know, there's

00:17:37.900 --> 00:17:40.039
more code that people still like to follow. So

00:17:40.039 --> 00:17:42.299
it's more like, it's kind of preserving an old

00:17:42.299 --> 00:17:44.579
school tradition, I think is probably what you're

00:17:44.579 --> 00:17:47.569
getting to. Yeah. I think so. Yeah. But now I

00:17:47.569 --> 00:17:49.170
know ham operators can talk to each other all

00:17:49.170 --> 00:17:51.269
over the world. Yeah. So how does that work?

00:17:51.309 --> 00:17:53.109
How can you talk to a guy in Australia? So it's

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all depends on conditions in our atmosphere.

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It's really interesting. So if you have a certain

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day that, and I think it's the stratosphere and

00:18:03.450 --> 00:18:05.250
ionosphere, I think it's between both of them.

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Your signal can actually bounce off the top of

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that and then go somewhere else in the world.

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They call that skip. Skip talking is a thing

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where I could talk to Australia. What wattage

00:18:16.910 --> 00:18:20.609
would require that? Well, really not many watts

00:18:20.609 --> 00:18:23.089
at all. I mean, you can actually do it probably

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under 10 watts if you don't have anybody else

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trying to do it over the top of you. So that's

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where you start getting into buying more bigger

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radios so they'll hear you more and hear somebody

00:18:31.630 --> 00:18:36.690
else. I mean, I can talk to Australia on a day.

00:18:37.509 --> 00:18:39.609
like this, almost like we're talking as clear.

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We are right now. And then within 10 minutes,

00:18:41.450 --> 00:18:43.390
they're gone. I never hear him again. I mean,

00:18:43.410 --> 00:18:45.789
it just, it's a condition. It's just the way

00:18:45.789 --> 00:18:49.029
that it is. It totally is. And, and then you've,

00:18:49.029 --> 00:18:51.230
it's just about the moon. It's about this. Do

00:18:51.230 --> 00:18:53.990
you ever listen to aliens? I try to, but that

00:18:53.990 --> 00:18:59.269
goes back to that microdosing conversation. Mushrooms

00:18:59.269 --> 00:19:01.430
are involved. Yes. You notice, yeah, people that

00:19:01.430 --> 00:19:04.029
see UFOs, usually there's other things involved,

00:19:04.210 --> 00:19:07.089
in my opinion. Yeah, but there's just the phantom

00:19:07.089 --> 00:19:10.609
broadcasting that you can hear out there that

00:19:10.609 --> 00:19:12.849
there's no explanation for, and you find it on

00:19:12.849 --> 00:19:15.210
some, I don't want to say creepy or nefarious,

00:19:15.250 --> 00:19:19.539
but just some awkward or un... Unchartered frequency.

00:19:19.960 --> 00:19:24.259
They break those frequencies down to the 10 ,000th

00:19:24.259 --> 00:19:28.079
to the 100 ,000th place. Digit, right? Absolutely,

00:19:28.160 --> 00:19:30.000
they do. And then you're saying you hear a transmission

00:19:30.000 --> 00:19:33.160
from 1945. Yeah, and it's a repeat, kind of like

00:19:33.160 --> 00:19:36.259
the movie Contact. Absolutely. That movie was

00:19:36.259 --> 00:19:40.339
fantastic. Jodie Foster. I love that movie. I

00:19:40.339 --> 00:19:44.740
bought it. For now, I bought it. Yes. You bought

00:19:44.740 --> 00:19:45.880
the license to watch. You have to watch what

00:19:45.880 --> 00:19:47.539
I say when Jeff is going to be like, no, you

00:19:47.539 --> 00:19:51.619
didn't. It's not me. It's Amazon and the courts.

00:19:51.720 --> 00:19:54.660
Do they get fired or do they change it? I don't

00:19:54.660 --> 00:19:56.339
know. I don't know what the outcome is. Well,

00:19:56.339 --> 00:19:58.740
right now, I've got it. I've watched it like

00:19:58.740 --> 00:20:01.160
once a year at least. It's one of my favorite

00:20:01.160 --> 00:20:03.619
ones. I've watched it once like 20 years ago.

00:20:03.720 --> 00:20:06.019
I think I've seen it twice, but an awesome movie.

00:20:06.240 --> 00:20:08.140
Call it my house. We'll watch it. That's good.

00:20:08.639 --> 00:20:10.839
So one more question about the ham operator thing.

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So are you saying it's like on a Saturday morning,

00:20:13.900 --> 00:20:17.059
that's what guys do? They see if it's a lucky

00:20:17.059 --> 00:20:19.940
day where they pick up somebody from like far

00:20:19.940 --> 00:20:23.359
away. That's like a thing. And what's made it

00:20:23.359 --> 00:20:26.039
kind of fun now is because of social media and

00:20:26.039 --> 00:20:29.359
things like that. People will talk on a skip

00:20:29.359 --> 00:20:30.940
day, they call it, where people are talking to

00:20:30.940 --> 00:20:32.809
each other, but they'll actually. live cast it

00:20:32.809 --> 00:20:34.410
to facebook or whatever so that you're actually

00:20:34.410 --> 00:20:36.109
on facebook watching the guys you're talking

00:20:36.109 --> 00:20:37.650
to but you're talking to them on the radio at

00:20:37.650 --> 00:20:39.289
the same time because you're giving each other

00:20:39.289 --> 00:20:41.410
your information and you can facetime them yeah

00:20:41.410 --> 00:20:44.089
yeah it's just pretty cool it's super cool it's

00:20:44.089 --> 00:20:46.509
just a thing i mean it's a it's either you're

00:20:46.509 --> 00:20:48.529
into it or you're not i've i've always loved

00:20:48.529 --> 00:20:50.769
doing it i've it's it's been a passion for me

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so to me to get into telecommunications you know

00:20:53.309 --> 00:20:55.950
dealing with cellular and police fire radios

00:20:55.950 --> 00:20:58.160
i mean it's it's all second nature to me I mean,

00:20:58.180 --> 00:21:00.920
I'm just having fun. And what an advantage you

00:21:00.920 --> 00:21:04.099
got over the guys doing this 30 years ago. Because

00:21:04.099 --> 00:21:07.099
FaceTime didn't exist. Exactly. Yeah. All you

00:21:07.099 --> 00:21:09.480
did, all you heard was this ghost voice from

00:21:09.480 --> 00:21:12.160
who knows where. And now it's been so refined.

00:21:12.339 --> 00:21:14.319
And you have, you know, things like this. I mean,

00:21:14.359 --> 00:21:16.180
I know they can't, you know, but you look at

00:21:16.180 --> 00:21:21.000
that and you keep going. Yeah, I am. You can

00:21:21.000 --> 00:21:22.839
kind of definitely see what's going on there.

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Super cool. So radioreference .com has a list

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of all those different frequencies, which is

00:21:28.119 --> 00:21:30.619
kind of cool. Is this specific to Frisco? That

00:21:30.619 --> 00:21:33.460
is because you're in Collin County, but you can

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search anywhere in Texas and find stuff there.

00:21:36.279 --> 00:21:38.400
By the nature of the walkie -talkies that I have,

00:21:38.480 --> 00:21:40.720
I shouldn't have access to that stuff, correct?

00:21:40.940 --> 00:21:43.859
You should not. Right. Yeah. Do they have the

00:21:43.859 --> 00:21:46.819
school district down there? Yeah, absolutely.

00:21:46.880 --> 00:21:48.980
I think I saw it. Yeah, the schools would be

00:21:48.980 --> 00:21:51.880
there. No way. You'll see them. You'll see them.

00:21:51.940 --> 00:21:55.009
I mean, they may be. But I think they're there.

00:21:55.369 --> 00:21:57.849
That's fascinating. Of course, we're not allowed

00:21:57.849 --> 00:21:59.250
to go into any of those bands. Well, it doesn't

00:21:59.250 --> 00:22:01.250
have the frequencies specifically listed, though,

00:22:01.250 --> 00:22:03.170
does it? Right. I'm going to have to log in.

00:22:03.210 --> 00:22:04.990
Well, right there. See, those are the frequencies

00:22:04.990 --> 00:22:06.990
they use there. That's the range. And then those

00:22:06.990 --> 00:22:09.390
are actually, that's the frequency. And then

00:22:09.390 --> 00:22:12.599
these are actually channels. But yeah, that's

00:22:12.599 --> 00:22:15.779
all the channels they use. Interesting. You can't

00:22:15.779 --> 00:22:18.220
go to any of these, right? No, you can listen.

00:22:18.539 --> 00:22:20.619
But you can listen to these, though. Oh, you

00:22:20.619 --> 00:22:24.000
can? Yeah, so I actually have a couple scanners

00:22:24.000 --> 00:22:27.420
that can scan all these. So I can listen, but

00:22:27.420 --> 00:22:29.319
I can't transmit to it, but I can listen. So

00:22:29.319 --> 00:22:33.400
I can hear police fire radio. I can hear things

00:22:33.400 --> 00:22:37.759
are going on. Usually I know very quickly. And

00:22:37.759 --> 00:22:40.589
a lot of times... there's things that go on with,

00:22:40.589 --> 00:22:42.410
with things you don't, it never makes the news,

00:22:42.529 --> 00:22:44.130
you know, but I hear about it. So it's kind of

00:22:44.130 --> 00:22:46.710
fun. Like I'll hear, I'll hear stuff like I can

00:22:46.710 --> 00:22:48.690
hear things, you know, police fire, but you can

00:22:48.690 --> 00:22:51.549
even like airport, like airplanes, they all transmit.

00:22:51.589 --> 00:22:54.269
Then they're on that one 35 VHF band where you're

00:22:54.269 --> 00:22:56.309
kind of where those radios you had are. And you

00:22:56.309 --> 00:22:57.710
can hear them come over the top, you know, come

00:22:57.710 --> 00:22:59.509
in at 65 ,000 and I'll look and there'll be like

00:22:59.509 --> 00:23:01.029
a jet plane right over the house. It's just kind

00:23:01.029 --> 00:23:04.809
of a fun little thing to do. So my wife's a teacher

00:23:04.809 --> 00:23:07.710
and they, they talk on the walkie talkies, right?

00:23:08.009 --> 00:23:13.369
So you're saying that I could tune into my wife's

00:23:13.369 --> 00:23:15.849
school and listen to them talking on the walkie

00:23:15.849 --> 00:23:19.049
-talkie? Yes. That's crazy. That's why I was

00:23:19.049 --> 00:23:21.490
interested, because I'm a school bus driver,

00:23:21.750 --> 00:23:24.170
and we use radios, and I was wondering if they

00:23:24.170 --> 00:23:26.890
had the frequencies on. You definitely... You

00:23:26.890 --> 00:23:29.250
could listen to us all day. Yeah, it would be

00:23:29.250 --> 00:23:31.170
on there. What's your call sign on your bus?

00:23:32.250 --> 00:23:36.730
Big dog. Big dog. Big dog. Oh, I like it. We're

00:23:36.730 --> 00:23:39.349
going to tune into your bus every day, Jeff,

00:23:39.410 --> 00:23:41.450
and just kind of listen to you. Are you doing

00:23:41.450 --> 00:23:45.730
Frisco routes? Frisco. Frisco? That's cool. So,

00:23:45.750 --> 00:23:49.170
okay, well, here's the thing. So you brought

00:23:49.170 --> 00:23:51.490
your ham radio and your setup over here, and

00:23:51.490 --> 00:23:53.150
you're going to talk into the ham radio for us.

00:23:54.049 --> 00:23:56.109
That's what you're doing today, right? We're

00:23:56.109 --> 00:23:58.630
going to mount the antenna. Transmit right there

00:23:58.630 --> 00:24:00.829
and go. This whole setup is over here? 37 -footer.

00:24:01.279 --> 00:24:02.700
We can't. All right, so let's talk about why

00:24:02.700 --> 00:24:05.119
you're really here. All right, so the real reason

00:24:05.119 --> 00:24:07.380
you're here, because you are. Not the real reason.

00:24:07.519 --> 00:24:09.160
Well, no, no. This is the real thing. Well, of

00:24:09.160 --> 00:24:10.859
course, because he's a dude like us. He's a dude

00:24:10.859 --> 00:24:13.039
like us. I get it. Yeah. But what we're interested

00:24:13.039 --> 00:24:16.160
in, I should say, is that you are an accomplished

00:24:16.160 --> 00:24:18.240
guitar player. Yeah. And singer. And singer.

00:24:18.480 --> 00:24:22.299
Guitar, yeah. And break dancer. And pole dancer.

00:24:22.619 --> 00:24:25.519
Oh, okay. I can do that, too. Well, and Jeff

00:24:25.519 --> 00:24:27.809
has a pole. Breaking news. All right. There you

00:24:27.809 --> 00:24:30.950
go. So what's your background there? So I've

00:24:30.950 --> 00:24:35.130
been playing guitar for probably about 35, 40

00:24:35.130 --> 00:24:38.250
years. Long time, long time, long time. I've

00:24:38.250 --> 00:24:41.930
been playing out gigs professionally since probably

00:24:41.930 --> 00:24:47.009
mid -90s, something like that. So I've always

00:24:47.009 --> 00:24:49.410
sort of been on the... I grew up kind of being

00:24:49.410 --> 00:24:51.990
a metalhead, so I was like super slayer and death

00:24:51.990 --> 00:24:55.000
metal and all that. And then I started mellowing

00:24:55.000 --> 00:24:58.099
out a little bit, as most people do. Sure. Now

00:24:58.099 --> 00:25:00.160
you're into Barry Gibb. Yeah, I don't know. Barry

00:25:00.160 --> 00:25:03.079
Manilow. Yeah. Maybe a little bit. Barry White.

00:25:03.180 --> 00:25:05.980
Like Neil Young, maybe things like that. Creedence

00:25:05.980 --> 00:25:08.400
Clearwater, things like that. But I've never

00:25:08.400 --> 00:25:11.599
really been a country guy, so I struggle at times

00:25:11.599 --> 00:25:13.519
here because I don't play traditional country.

00:25:13.599 --> 00:25:16.640
I'm more of like a classic rock guy. And they

00:25:16.640 --> 00:25:19.599
request country a lot? Oh, yes. Yes, they do.

00:25:19.819 --> 00:25:21.539
What do they call that? Grassroots kind of music?

00:25:21.539 --> 00:25:24.349
What do they call that? Salt? Red Dirt. Red Dirt.

00:25:24.349 --> 00:25:26.430
Red Dirt. Yeah, that's a big thing here. Like

00:25:26.430 --> 00:25:29.109
Texas country, outlaw country. Outlaw country

00:25:29.109 --> 00:25:32.069
thing. I got you. So yeah, I'm more of a, I do

00:25:32.069 --> 00:25:34.450
a lot of my own songs and I do, you know, I kind

00:25:34.450 --> 00:25:36.990
of tear on the classic rock side. So I've been

00:25:36.990 --> 00:25:38.390
doing it a long time. I mean, that's sort of

00:25:38.390 --> 00:25:40.769
like my thing. It gives me, when my day job,

00:25:40.930 --> 00:25:42.529
which I was saying telecommunications drives

00:25:42.529 --> 00:25:44.609
me completely insane, which it does most of the

00:25:44.609 --> 00:25:48.329
time, I go play gigs, go do private events, regular

00:25:48.329 --> 00:25:50.829
bar and grills, and it just settles me down.

00:25:51.230 --> 00:25:53.210
you know that's that that rounds me around so

00:25:53.210 --> 00:25:55.930
it's totally just a totally a hobby yeah i mean

00:25:55.930 --> 00:25:59.529
i don't know i get paid i have i have to i get

00:25:59.529 --> 00:26:02.029
10 .99 i got to do taxes and all that just from

00:26:02.029 --> 00:26:04.789
i get paid i mean the venues love to 10 .99 me

00:26:04.789 --> 00:26:07.109
so i mean are you trying to grow it as a business

00:26:07.109 --> 00:26:09.190
to where sometime you can quit your other job

00:26:09.190 --> 00:26:12.730
i would love to do that i mean i i would you

00:26:12.730 --> 00:26:14.430
know as you get older you're kind of like i'm

00:26:14.430 --> 00:26:18.210
just yeah sure it's just it how does that work

00:26:18.210 --> 00:26:20.109
though i mean you know you got to deal with like

00:26:20.799 --> 00:26:22.579
insurance and all this stuff. I mean, day jobs

00:26:22.579 --> 00:26:24.599
have their certain securities, you know? I mean,

00:26:24.599 --> 00:26:26.079
that's the thing that scares me off. I mean,

00:26:26.119 --> 00:26:28.500
there's times where I've made, like, in a couple

00:26:28.500 --> 00:26:29.779
months, I'm like, I could do this full -time

00:26:29.779 --> 00:26:31.599
easily. But then there's something where, like,

00:26:31.619 --> 00:26:33.259
a month I don't play anywhere. Right. You know,

00:26:33.279 --> 00:26:37.599
it's tough. It's a contract. You're a contractor,

00:26:37.759 --> 00:26:39.599
essentially. And I got to tell you, too, man,

00:26:39.660 --> 00:26:42.140
there's something to be said about any job that

00:26:42.140 --> 00:26:45.859
you do. You know, you're out of your peak performance

00:26:45.859 --> 00:26:51.170
era, you know? I mean, guys our age. Sure. That's

00:26:51.170 --> 00:26:53.289
a fact. It doesn't matter what we're doing. Yep.

00:26:53.630 --> 00:26:57.130
We're starting to be replaced by younger whippersnappers.

00:26:57.309 --> 00:27:00.789
Yep. Got all the audio trickery. Hell, we're

00:27:00.789 --> 00:27:03.789
being replaced by AI. Oh, yeah. The music. They're

00:27:03.789 --> 00:27:06.210
making up, hey, tell an AI to make one. They

00:27:06.210 --> 00:27:10.289
have, actually, AI -like songs you can come out

00:27:10.289 --> 00:27:12.509
that actually aren't even anybody doing it, but

00:27:12.509 --> 00:27:14.819
they're actually good songs. publishing them

00:27:14.819 --> 00:27:17.359
it's kind of scary it is scary yeah yeah so you

00:27:17.359 --> 00:27:19.380
guys are looking at the that's the band i'm playing

00:27:19.380 --> 00:27:24.079
in so you're not a solo act you are in a band

00:27:24.079 --> 00:27:27.640
i will do yeah so i i do solo act stuff and then

00:27:27.640 --> 00:27:30.960
i also play a local band here called mason adams

00:27:30.960 --> 00:27:33.880
project and i've been with them probably a couple

00:27:33.880 --> 00:27:37.779
years now so we and that's that's primarily original

00:27:37.779 --> 00:27:41.630
music um We kind of call it hippie funk in a

00:27:41.630 --> 00:27:45.630
way. So it's certainly kind of rock -oriented,

00:27:45.690 --> 00:27:47.990
but we kind of got this hippie sort of funk thing

00:27:47.990 --> 00:27:49.849
going on. We do it at the same time. And a lot

00:27:49.849 --> 00:27:52.490
of improv, so a lot of times we don't really

00:27:52.490 --> 00:27:54.329
know exactly what we're going to play. We just

00:27:54.329 --> 00:27:57.269
start in, and we hope that we all kind of finish

00:27:57.269 --> 00:27:59.190
and get it done. It's sort of a journey. But

00:27:59.190 --> 00:28:03.329
that tension is what is fun. So we're not afraid

00:28:03.329 --> 00:28:05.589
to go up on stage and start doing something.

00:28:05.650 --> 00:28:08.210
We're jamming. Just keep going. Yeah. And, and

00:28:08.210 --> 00:28:10.710
then sometimes it falls apart and that's, that's

00:28:10.710 --> 00:28:13.309
part of it. And, um, that's when we start all

00:28:13.309 --> 00:28:15.250
looking at each other, like. Okay, let's wrap

00:28:15.250 --> 00:28:17.450
this up or something. Oh, shoot. Yeah. So, hold

00:28:17.450 --> 00:28:19.009
on. So, you've been playing with these exact

00:28:19.009 --> 00:28:21.829
guys? These guys, yeah, a couple years. Okay.

00:28:21.890 --> 00:28:24.309
Yeah. So, I mean, the lineup's changed a little

00:28:24.309 --> 00:28:26.970
bit. Mason's in the middle. So, that's Mason.

00:28:27.029 --> 00:28:28.890
And then a couple of those guys have switched

00:28:28.890 --> 00:28:30.950
in and out there. It's probably just Mason and

00:28:30.950 --> 00:28:32.990
I. I think we're like the old school. Those guys

00:28:32.990 --> 00:28:35.130
are not playing with us anymore. You ever play

00:28:35.130 --> 00:28:38.029
downtown McKinney? I used to play. Yeah, I used

00:28:38.029 --> 00:28:39.329
to play there. I used to play at a place called

00:28:39.329 --> 00:28:41.950
Aparicio's. If you remember that, downtown, right

00:28:41.950 --> 00:28:44.170
on Virginia Street. It was a... mexican food

00:28:44.170 --> 00:28:46.190
restaurant it was a bar on the second floor i

00:28:46.190 --> 00:28:48.450
don't know if you guys it was how long ago was

00:28:48.450 --> 00:28:51.630
that uh probably they probably closed down around

00:28:51.630 --> 00:28:54.589
2012 or something but they're around for a while

00:28:54.589 --> 00:28:57.210
but um i played on this off the square there

00:28:57.210 --> 00:28:59.329
a bunch of different times sometimes do the music

00:28:59.329 --> 00:29:01.690
texas music revolution out there i have been

00:29:01.690 --> 00:29:04.109
i have done that before yeah i've not done it

00:29:04.109 --> 00:29:06.470
recently but i've done it solo before but so

00:29:06.470 --> 00:29:09.599
um Yeah, McKinney has gotten really big with

00:29:09.599 --> 00:29:12.299
music, so it definitely would be nice to get

00:29:12.299 --> 00:29:14.339
back out there for sure. The challenge for aspiring

00:29:14.339 --> 00:29:17.559
musicians is you've got to tour. You know what

00:29:17.559 --> 00:29:19.140
I mean? I mean, you might be able to line up

00:29:19.140 --> 00:29:21.779
two or three gigs, two gigs this weekend, but

00:29:21.779 --> 00:29:23.579
then you've got to go over to Austin, and then

00:29:23.579 --> 00:29:25.440
you've got to go up to Oklahoma City, and then

00:29:25.440 --> 00:29:28.740
you've got to... That's tough. That's tough.

00:29:28.799 --> 00:29:31.619
And that gets into that thing about your day

00:29:31.619 --> 00:29:33.299
job. It's a lot of stuff. How do you pull that

00:29:33.299 --> 00:29:38.970
off? And yeah, so we... We probably play a couple

00:29:38.970 --> 00:29:41.269
times a month. We go play shows. We practice

00:29:41.269 --> 00:29:44.089
once a week. Sometimes we have more shows. It

00:29:44.089 --> 00:29:47.630
kind of depends. And our set lists are probably...

00:29:47.799 --> 00:29:51.160
85 % original and 15 % covers. We do some fun

00:29:51.160 --> 00:29:53.079
cover, just kind of not your everyday covers,

00:29:53.240 --> 00:29:56.980
but Jolene by Dolly Parton, but we do it a very

00:29:56.980 --> 00:29:58.980
more kind of hard rocking way, if that makes

00:29:58.980 --> 00:30:01.099
sense. So it's a little different. You ever play

00:30:01.099 --> 00:30:02.940
down at the rail yard, Frisco? Oh, yeah. Oh,

00:30:03.000 --> 00:30:05.480
yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I've played down there

00:30:05.480 --> 00:30:09.559
lots and lots, lots. Yeah, so that's a cool little

00:30:09.559 --> 00:30:14.329
spot down there. Yeah. I don't want to say frequent

00:30:14.329 --> 00:30:16.990
there, but we go there once in a blue moon. I

00:30:16.990 --> 00:30:19.250
think we've been more frequent in the last month,

00:30:19.309 --> 00:30:21.289
especially now. God bless the weather. The weather

00:30:21.289 --> 00:30:24.490
is so good. It's a cool hangout, yeah. Yeah,

00:30:24.490 --> 00:30:26.690
we were there this last Friday, right? Yeah.

00:30:26.750 --> 00:30:28.990
Yeah. Who did you go see there? We saw the Louis

00:30:28.990 --> 00:30:31.930
Armstrong cover band. Yeah. Very nice. Oh, cool.

00:30:32.089 --> 00:30:34.150
That is cool. They were good, though. No, the

00:30:34.150 --> 00:30:36.869
guy had a kind of, it was a four piece, but they

00:30:36.869 --> 00:30:39.150
were missing a guy. So I'm assuming this guy

00:30:39.150 --> 00:30:40.789
that was singing wasn't actually the singer.

00:30:40.869 --> 00:30:42.289
He was just kind of picking up the slack. Oh,

00:30:42.309 --> 00:30:44.490
it wasn't the Louis Armstrong guy? But he sounded

00:30:44.490 --> 00:30:49.349
like. He did. His voice got all down. I was like,

00:30:49.430 --> 00:30:54.609
what in the hell is going on? It was the Louis

00:30:54.609 --> 00:30:57.960
Armstrong version of. every cover they did. But

00:30:57.960 --> 00:31:03.200
it was fun. We made a comment like the, it's

00:31:03.200 --> 00:31:05.180
like every song was catered to the guitarist

00:31:05.180 --> 00:31:07.160
because it was like, just fuck it. Let's play

00:31:07.160 --> 00:31:08.740
a song. I'll just play solos throughout the whole

00:31:08.740 --> 00:31:10.980
damn song. And the guitarist was fantastic. There's

00:31:10.980 --> 00:31:14.220
something to be said about that too. Yeah. All

00:31:14.220 --> 00:31:16.779
right. So talk about your, how'd you, you said

00:31:16.779 --> 00:31:18.779
you've been playing guitar for 35, 40 years.

00:31:18.819 --> 00:31:21.299
So you're saying you were a teenager and just

00:31:21.299 --> 00:31:23.559
said, or were you younger than that? I was, yeah,

00:31:23.599 --> 00:31:26.460
I was like, I was a teenager and I, uh, I lived

00:31:26.460 --> 00:31:28.559
in California. So I'm originally from San Francisco.

00:31:28.759 --> 00:31:32.079
So like Marin County area. And I, um, actually

00:31:32.079 --> 00:31:35.000
got so many words hired to play in a band to

00:31:35.000 --> 00:31:36.660
come out here, live in Denton, Texas. They're

00:31:36.660 --> 00:31:39.140
like, you know, you know, I was what, 22. And

00:31:39.140 --> 00:31:41.319
they're like, well, here's like a thousand bucks

00:31:41.319 --> 00:31:43.859
and here's a place to stay. And so that was your

00:31:43.859 --> 00:31:46.579
first dream. And that was, I, so, and I knew,

00:31:46.579 --> 00:31:48.819
I knew a couple of the guys prior and I said,

00:31:48.900 --> 00:31:51.759
you know, from band in California. Came down,

00:31:51.799 --> 00:31:54.140
jumped in. It was fun. We played together right

00:31:54.140 --> 00:31:56.660
there about four years, a band called Ed Rex.

00:31:57.000 --> 00:31:59.380
And it was a primary... In Denton. In Denton,

00:31:59.460 --> 00:32:01.839
yeah. Full -time gig. All the time, yeah. And

00:32:01.839 --> 00:32:04.079
then I played... Well, we had times. What years

00:32:04.079 --> 00:32:08.339
were those? That would have been like 95 to like

00:32:08.339 --> 00:32:11.279
98, 99, something like that. Oh, my God. I used

00:32:11.279 --> 00:32:13.660
to... You played down at Fry Street? Oh, yeah.

00:32:13.740 --> 00:32:16.200
I played at Fry Street Fair. Yeah, that place

00:32:16.200 --> 00:32:20.500
is cool. I ran sound at the Texas Jive. for what

00:32:20.500 --> 00:32:24.920
six years from 94 to I don't even know when remember

00:32:24.920 --> 00:32:27.339
like the flying tomato yeah that was right next

00:32:27.339 --> 00:32:29.779
door hell yeah like cool beans yeah cool beans

00:32:29.779 --> 00:32:32.240
so when you were playing up there and you're

00:32:32.240 --> 00:32:33.960
like you're young and excited and the sound was

00:32:33.960 --> 00:32:36.759
like all patchy and going in and out and sucking

00:32:36.759 --> 00:32:41.099
he was it was Sean Sean was he was a guy like

00:32:41.099 --> 00:32:43.299
going oh what do I do when I turn this knob oh

00:32:43.299 --> 00:32:46.400
shit oh shit I love that. It was a lot of fun,

00:32:46.500 --> 00:32:49.400
man. They had a couple, I mean, a lot of those

00:32:49.400 --> 00:32:51.299
bars went through different phases and, you know,

00:32:51.319 --> 00:32:53.319
absolutely they ended up knocking down almost

00:32:53.319 --> 00:32:55.200
all those bars. I think Louie's is one of the

00:32:55.200 --> 00:32:59.359
few that are left. I think, is it? Lou's, Lou's,

00:32:59.359 --> 00:33:02.079
I'm going to say. Is it Rhino's? Rhino's that

00:33:02.079 --> 00:33:03.799
used to be across from Cool Beans? I think that's

00:33:03.799 --> 00:33:05.839
still there and Cool Beans is still there too,

00:33:05.940 --> 00:33:09.000
actually. Yeah, and they built freaking, like,

00:33:09.079 --> 00:33:11.099
I don't know how tall that building is, but they,

00:33:11.390 --> 00:33:13.450
where the Texas Drive used to be at. It's like

00:33:13.450 --> 00:33:18.289
an apartment complex. Yes. Style building. Condominium

00:33:18.289 --> 00:33:24.410
style. Tall. Eight stories. UNT is huge. It's

00:33:24.410 --> 00:33:27.170
a music school. Absolutely. A lot of the students

00:33:27.170 --> 00:33:30.759
down there love to jam. In fact... There's a

00:33:30.759 --> 00:33:34.900
band, something kitchen, Skull Kitchen, Cool

00:33:34.900 --> 00:33:38.759
Kitchen, Cole's Kitchen. Snarky Puppy. Yeah,

00:33:38.779 --> 00:33:40.480
well, they were a derivative of Snarky Puppy.

00:33:40.539 --> 00:33:42.680
So Snarky Puppy. I've heard of that. Soul Kitchen,

00:33:42.859 --> 00:33:44.799
that was the name of the band. So Snarky Puppy,

00:33:44.880 --> 00:33:47.660
some of the members that are in Snarky Puppy

00:33:47.660 --> 00:33:49.819
were in the Soul Kitchen. Because I remember

00:33:49.819 --> 00:33:52.420
they set up at a band out there in one of the

00:33:52.420 --> 00:33:54.500
establishments. And I didn't make it there that

00:33:54.500 --> 00:33:57.200
night. But Tim, the owner, he calls me up. He's

00:33:57.200 --> 00:33:59.519
like, what the fuck is going on down here? There

00:33:59.519 --> 00:34:02.900
are 18 guys up here set up and all have different

00:34:02.900 --> 00:34:05.099
instruments. And he was like, it sounds like

00:34:05.099 --> 00:34:07.480
a God -blessing train wreck. And I was like,

00:34:07.599 --> 00:34:09.760
I have no idea. I love it. It's because they

00:34:09.760 --> 00:34:12.900
had no idea what blues is. And these guys were

00:34:12.900 --> 00:34:15.480
jamming. And they were trying to just figure

00:34:15.480 --> 00:34:19.539
it out. You know, they produced a lot of talent

00:34:19.539 --> 00:34:22.480
because Snarky Puppy's huge. Absolutely. Yeah,

00:34:22.519 --> 00:34:27.739
I know. I know exactly. I would love to go to

00:34:27.739 --> 00:34:33.699
one of their shows. Cool. Do we want to jump

00:34:33.699 --> 00:34:37.500
on there? Should I jam a tune or something? Are

00:34:37.500 --> 00:34:39.920
you going to solo the guitar? Are you going to

00:34:39.920 --> 00:34:42.000
sing? I'm going to sing and play a couple songs

00:34:42.000 --> 00:34:44.360
of mine and I'll just kind of maybe give you

00:34:44.360 --> 00:34:46.659
guys a backstory on those tunes before I play

00:34:46.659 --> 00:34:49.920
them and whatever we'll figure it out. I'm jumping

00:34:49.920 --> 00:34:52.019
over there. Get yourself set up over there and

00:34:52.019 --> 00:34:53.920
we'll... I'm sure we're short. I'm going to go

00:34:53.920 --> 00:34:55.500
ahead and take my pants off and get a little

00:34:55.500 --> 00:34:58.900
comfortable. Oh. His lube. Is that what you do

00:34:58.900 --> 00:35:03.519
when you go see a live band? I just like, you

00:35:03.519 --> 00:35:08.440
know, get my waist a little freedom. Yeah, and

00:35:08.440 --> 00:35:10.639
then everybody around you just kind of moves

00:35:10.639 --> 00:35:14.809
away. Is it throbs? I just liked... To the beat.

00:35:14.929 --> 00:35:17.409
What is going on here? You're adding a lot of

00:35:17.409 --> 00:35:19.809
adjectives right now, Jeff. I don't know exactly

00:35:19.809 --> 00:35:21.809
what kind of picture you're trying to paint here.

00:35:21.869 --> 00:35:23.590
Well, he's the one who says he's getting naked

00:35:23.590 --> 00:35:26.909
and playing with him. True, true. Hold on. All

00:35:26.909 --> 00:35:29.989
right, yeah. Thankfully, he's going to preempt

00:35:29.989 --> 00:35:31.909
us here. There you go. All right, let's see what

00:35:31.909 --> 00:35:33.730
we got going on. Did I hear a little static out

00:35:33.730 --> 00:35:37.429
there? Are we live or is it working? Yeah, we're

00:35:37.429 --> 00:35:43.010
good. Okay, well, so I'll hit a couple songs

00:35:43.010 --> 00:35:46.690
of my own. This one I'm going to do here is I

00:35:46.690 --> 00:35:49.289
wrote this. Have you guys ever been to Sedona,

00:35:49.309 --> 00:35:52.469
Arizona? Yes, I have not. Do you know where they

00:35:52.469 --> 00:35:56.809
have those energy caves you go in? They're like

00:35:56.809 --> 00:35:59.170
healing caves. It's a thing out there. Either

00:35:59.170 --> 00:36:00.989
you know or you don't. Yeah, I haven't gone.

00:36:01.369 --> 00:36:02.909
No, I've been out there. I haven't been to those.

00:36:03.050 --> 00:36:06.909
Oh, I need to go. In those caves. With your walkie

00:36:06.909 --> 00:36:09.510
-talkie? I was just with the walkie -talkie.

00:36:09.510 --> 00:36:11.170
My walkie -talkie doesn't work with shit in this

00:36:11.170 --> 00:36:13.989
cave. I brought a guitar with me, and this was

00:36:13.989 --> 00:36:17.489
probably back, I don't know, 2000, 2001. And

00:36:17.489 --> 00:36:23.010
my wife at the time, not ex -wife, but she always

00:36:23.010 --> 00:36:26.489
loved daisies, like flower daisies. And she was

00:36:26.489 --> 00:36:28.679
going in to actually, if I remember right. I

00:36:28.679 --> 00:36:30.639
think it was a hysterectomy or something. And

00:36:30.639 --> 00:36:34.860
she wanted me to get her daisies, but I was in

00:36:34.860 --> 00:36:38.380
Arizona, and I couldn't get there for her surgery.

00:36:38.460 --> 00:36:40.179
It was a long story. It kind of happened sooner,

00:36:40.300 --> 00:36:43.679
and we wanted it to. So I saw this daisy, and

00:36:43.679 --> 00:36:45.699
then I called the song Daisies in Arizona, and

00:36:45.699 --> 00:36:47.659
I wrote the words in like five minutes in the

00:36:47.659 --> 00:36:49.320
guitar, and it's been probably one of my staple

00:36:49.320 --> 00:36:51.579
songs I've always had. So I played it with full

00:36:51.579 --> 00:36:55.199
bands, played it solo either way, and so I'm

00:36:55.199 --> 00:36:57.699
just going to do it just with my acoustic guitar

00:36:57.699 --> 00:37:00.480
and me. All right. Sounds good. All right. Let

00:37:00.480 --> 00:37:03.599
it roll. All right. So Daisy's in Arizona. Not

00:37:03.599 --> 00:37:06.000
Daisy from Dukes of Hazzard. No, no. Oh, okay.

00:37:06.079 --> 00:37:08.900
I mean, you could do it. Yeah, maybe, but not

00:37:08.900 --> 00:37:10.739
this one. Yeah, don't change the words just yet.

00:37:11.199 --> 00:37:34.150
All right. Never seems to matter where I go Oh,

00:37:34.269 --> 00:37:42.329
is that the same feeling, bro? What I'd like

00:37:42.329 --> 00:37:48.670
to see must be a part of me Cause Daisy's in

00:37:48.670 --> 00:38:18.289
Arizona, we are here for you There they are,

00:38:18.289 --> 00:38:26.329
blown away by the wind. Doesn't matter if you're

00:38:26.329 --> 00:39:35.190
far or near. To Stacey's in Arizona. NALA! Daisy

00:39:35.190 --> 00:40:17.730
said, Very nice. Yeah. I like it. Cool little

00:40:17.730 --> 00:40:21.329
tune. Very cool. Yeah. So you were basically

00:40:21.329 --> 00:40:23.590
feeling like shit in that moment when you wrote

00:40:23.590 --> 00:40:27.030
that song. I was guilty. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. But,

00:40:27.030 --> 00:40:31.789
you know, it's a good, it always got me out of

00:40:31.789 --> 00:40:33.730
the doghouse. We'll put it that way. There you

00:40:33.730 --> 00:40:36.389
go. Yeah, I'm sure she appreciated that. Oh,

00:40:36.409 --> 00:40:38.530
yeah. Oh, yeah. Okay. And that's something AI

00:40:38.530 --> 00:40:40.190
can't produce a song like that. You know what

00:40:40.190 --> 00:40:42.119
I'm saying? You would think it couldn't, but

00:40:42.119 --> 00:40:44.679
I bet you it could. Yeah, it probably can. It's

00:40:44.679 --> 00:40:48.739
getting pretty clever nowadays. So anyways, I

00:40:48.739 --> 00:40:51.099
can do another one if you guys want. Yeah, let's

00:40:51.099 --> 00:40:59.599
do one more. John wants smoke on the water. Oh,

00:40:59.699 --> 00:41:04.059
man. Could you play some Madonna? Isn't that

00:41:04.059 --> 00:41:06.960
the song everybody wants to play when they learn

00:41:06.960 --> 00:41:09.570
to play the guitar? Smoke in the water. I thought

00:41:09.570 --> 00:41:11.469
it was Stairway to Heaven. Stairway to Heaven.

00:41:11.489 --> 00:41:12.829
Oh, that's another one. Yeah, that's another

00:41:12.829 --> 00:41:15.389
one. It's the one they can't play versus the

00:41:15.389 --> 00:41:18.150
one they want to play. Yeah. It's the only one

00:41:18.150 --> 00:41:24.610
they can play. All right. I'll do this one. So

00:41:24.610 --> 00:41:27.150
I have another one. I got so many, but this one's

00:41:27.150 --> 00:41:30.889
a cool one called Hourglass. And this song's

00:41:30.889 --> 00:41:36.170
actually about losing somebody. And it's about

00:41:36.170 --> 00:41:39.260
actually... I've had quite a bit of loss, but

00:41:39.260 --> 00:41:42.119
this one has to do with my sister about six years

00:41:42.119 --> 00:41:46.079
ago. And she, she was an early COVID death, I

00:41:46.079 --> 00:41:50.639
think. So she ended up having, well, it was flu

00:41:50.639 --> 00:41:54.280
and pneumonia and then got really, really, you

00:41:54.280 --> 00:41:56.800
know, just sick sepsis and died. And it was,

00:41:56.800 --> 00:42:02.199
it was in November, 2019. And she had a, she

00:42:02.199 --> 00:42:04.880
had, you know, my nephew, my nephew and her,

00:42:05.000 --> 00:42:08.199
her son, Harley. That was tough. He moved in

00:42:08.199 --> 00:42:10.199
with me, and it was just kind of getting him

00:42:10.199 --> 00:42:13.659
to get over losing his mom. My mom is still around.

00:42:13.699 --> 00:42:15.780
She's older. She was kind of stepped in as a

00:42:15.780 --> 00:42:19.599
mom as well for him. Really, his song is about

00:42:19.599 --> 00:42:24.340
healing, how time heals. The song is called Hourglass,

00:42:24.599 --> 00:42:26.619
and it's just kind of being a trooper, I think,

00:42:26.679 --> 00:42:28.000
would be the best way to put it. So we'll give

00:42:28.000 --> 00:42:59.840
this one a run. Cool. What I thought in my time

00:42:59.840 --> 00:43:07.150
would come Living through an hourglass moment.

00:43:11.010 --> 00:43:18.690
Never understood the need for redemption. Please

00:43:18.690 --> 00:43:27.809
carry me, my soul is near. Carry on, carry on.

00:43:34.119 --> 00:43:43.980
and save us four. Carry on, carry on, carry on.

00:43:46.360 --> 00:44:08.559
Hourglass turn time. Woke up and by the end of

00:44:08.559 --> 00:44:15.440
the day Our lives were changed, sure we never

00:44:15.440 --> 00:44:27.619
lived Orphan boy lost his mom and went Lost my

00:44:27.619 --> 00:44:42.429
sister, no more and can I say Carry on and save

00:44:42.429 --> 00:44:54.789
us from. Carry on, carry on, carry on. Hourglass

00:44:54.789 --> 00:45:15.980
turn, time to burn. My soul made it. Stand by

00:45:15.980 --> 00:45:23.500
for me, who I am. Give her the word, I'll die

00:45:23.500 --> 00:46:11.869
trying. Loved you forever, our hours last. Awesome.

00:46:11.909 --> 00:46:15.469
Love it. Very nice. It's good stuff, man. Thank

00:46:15.469 --> 00:46:17.690
you. Appreciate that. You know, I got to tell

00:46:17.690 --> 00:46:24.510
you, do the podcast. Similarly, singing is just

00:46:24.510 --> 00:46:26.289
as addicting. I mean, we love doing the podcast,

00:46:26.409 --> 00:46:28.650
but that's why when people go out to these karaoke

00:46:28.650 --> 00:46:32.349
shows and they're scared to death to get up there

00:46:32.349 --> 00:46:34.469
and do it, first of all. Oh, yeah. But once they

00:46:34.469 --> 00:46:38.079
do it, they're like, it's like a... it's like

00:46:38.079 --> 00:46:40.260
a roller coaster ride. It's like, I got to get

00:46:40.260 --> 00:46:42.159
right back in line and I'm going to do it again.

00:46:42.420 --> 00:46:44.840
And I tell you, it's, it's addicting. You know,

00:46:44.900 --> 00:46:46.719
there's a, there's a special spirit that comes

00:46:46.719 --> 00:46:49.360
along with, with being a performer and just to

00:46:49.360 --> 00:46:52.000
sit there and do it and to be good at it. Good

00:46:52.000 --> 00:46:54.380
at it. You know, some of these people that do

00:46:54.380 --> 00:46:56.099
the karaoke, you just kind of, yeah. They're

00:46:56.099 --> 00:46:57.940
horrible. Yeah. They get right back in line.

00:46:58.139 --> 00:47:01.079
Oh yeah. I think it's about like for me, I mean,

00:47:01.139 --> 00:47:02.780
we talked about a little bit about, you know,

00:47:02.780 --> 00:47:05.940
music and making a living and different things.

00:47:05.960 --> 00:47:09.380
I mean, for me if i can go into like a place

00:47:09.380 --> 00:47:11.940
and i can change the mood of the place to kind

00:47:11.940 --> 00:47:15.199
of be like vibing with me or and i can change

00:47:15.199 --> 00:47:17.539
like if people actually will remember something

00:47:17.539 --> 00:47:19.739
i did or something and sometimes i get people

00:47:19.739 --> 00:47:21.579
come up with me that'll mention like a song like

00:47:21.579 --> 00:47:23.440
that you know and they'll come up be like man

00:47:23.440 --> 00:47:25.280
i remember that song i realized i don't really

00:47:25.280 --> 00:47:28.139
remember them but i mean i remember the the night

00:47:28.139 --> 00:47:30.349
and i remember what you know and So if you can

00:47:30.349 --> 00:47:32.429
change and change the perception of what some

00:47:32.429 --> 00:47:34.610
people may be, good or bad, but you're doing

00:47:34.610 --> 00:47:36.989
the right things and just making it musical for

00:47:36.989 --> 00:47:39.250
them. To me, that's what music's about. I mean,

00:47:39.269 --> 00:47:40.909
it's just... I mean, just being able to impact

00:47:40.909 --> 00:47:43.849
the emotions of others. Yeah. Period. Just do

00:47:43.849 --> 00:47:46.510
something. Yeah. I think that's what... If you

00:47:46.510 --> 00:47:49.309
can come in... And it's hard because I'm a feel

00:47:49.309 --> 00:47:51.670
player. Like, I come into places, I feel the

00:47:51.670 --> 00:47:54.550
audience. If they want me there... if they don't

00:47:54.550 --> 00:47:57.150
want me there, I feel, and it affects how I play.

00:47:57.289 --> 00:47:59.030
Right. Like, if I know if I've got a good vibe,

00:47:59.150 --> 00:48:01.289
so you guys are being cool, so I'm in, but sometimes

00:48:01.289 --> 00:48:03.829
I'll hold back because I'm like, shoot, and I'm

00:48:03.829 --> 00:48:05.170
just counting the time I'm like, I gotta get

00:48:05.170 --> 00:48:06.570
out of here, man. Is it kind of like Blues Brothers

00:48:06.570 --> 00:48:08.030
where they start throwing shit at you? Yeah,

00:48:08.030 --> 00:48:09.369
I've had some moments. There's like chicken wire

00:48:09.369 --> 00:48:11.469
in front of you? I've had some moments. Is that

00:48:11.469 --> 00:48:13.769
Blues Brothers? Blues Brothers, yeah. It was

00:48:13.769 --> 00:48:15.809
Road Rage. What was the other one? Road, Blue,

00:48:15.889 --> 00:48:18.929
Roadhouse. Roadhouse, yeah. Patrick Swayze. Yeah.

00:48:19.190 --> 00:48:20.989
So, I've had time. I mean, what was funny about

00:48:20.989 --> 00:48:22.940
Blues Brothers, though, is they were, At first,

00:48:22.940 --> 00:48:24.760
they were super pissed off because they were

00:48:24.760 --> 00:48:27.760
playing blues, and they were in a country bar,

00:48:27.920 --> 00:48:30.579
and they're throwing shit at them with the chicken

00:48:30.579 --> 00:48:33.059
wire. Oh, rawhide. They kept singing rawhide.

00:48:33.099 --> 00:48:35.079
But as soon as they started singing rawhide,

00:48:35.079 --> 00:48:36.699
then they started throwing shit at them again.

00:48:37.179 --> 00:48:40.360
They're excited, though. Yes. So it didn't matter

00:48:40.360 --> 00:48:42.159
what they did. They threw shit at them. It was

00:48:42.159 --> 00:48:44.800
so funny. I love that scene. That was a great

00:48:44.800 --> 00:48:46.719
movie. It was a great movie. All right. So this

00:48:46.719 --> 00:48:49.500
is my own ignorance, but you've got all this

00:48:49.500 --> 00:48:51.460
equipment on the floor here, and I know it's...

00:48:52.500 --> 00:48:54.159
It's for you to be... I'm not even using any

00:48:54.159 --> 00:48:56.019
of it, really. You're not. You're not. Yeah,

00:48:56.079 --> 00:48:58.519
you're not at the moment. But I know, you know,

00:48:58.639 --> 00:49:01.820
you... Chuck and I were at Rollertown. Right.

00:49:01.880 --> 00:49:03.739
And I played there, too, several times. Yeah,

00:49:03.739 --> 00:49:07.340
yeah. Rollertown, Salina. I know there's one

00:49:07.340 --> 00:49:08.780
in Frisco. There's a new one. New one in Frisco,

00:49:08.860 --> 00:49:10.699
yeah. So, anyway, this guy had the same kind

00:49:10.699 --> 00:49:12.820
of setup, and he would, like, start his riff

00:49:12.820 --> 00:49:15.079
with his guitar, and he would record it. Loop

00:49:15.079 --> 00:49:17.119
it. Right? And he'd loop it. That's exactly what

00:49:17.119 --> 00:49:18.659
Chuck was saying. He would loop it and then he'd

00:49:18.659 --> 00:49:20.059
start something else and he'd loop it and then

00:49:20.059 --> 00:49:21.619
he'd start singing and all that shit would be

00:49:21.619 --> 00:49:23.179
going on. That's what Scott was showing us last

00:49:23.179 --> 00:49:24.860
night. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We went over to Scott

00:49:24.860 --> 00:49:29.929
Cash's house and delivered an arcade game. he

00:49:29.929 --> 00:49:32.989
got this package. I saw the picture. Yeah, and

00:49:32.989 --> 00:49:35.550
he opened it up, and it's one of those loopy

00:49:35.550 --> 00:49:38.389
things, and he was so excited. Ed Sheeran does

00:49:38.389 --> 00:49:40.610
that a lot. When you see him perform it, he'll

00:49:40.610 --> 00:49:42.190
have one of those big old things down at the

00:49:42.190 --> 00:49:44.369
bottom. Who does that? Ed Sheeran. Oh, yeah,

00:49:44.429 --> 00:49:47.269
yeah, yeah. And he'll do that. He'll basically

00:49:47.269 --> 00:49:49.210
be his whole band. Yeah, you can be a one -man

00:49:49.210 --> 00:49:50.829
band. I mean, hell, you can even do that with

00:49:50.829 --> 00:49:53.449
any equipment. Like, you can start the drums,

00:49:53.610 --> 00:49:57.050
and then record it and loop it. Now you've got

00:49:57.050 --> 00:50:00.630
drums going the whole time. There's amazing things

00:50:00.630 --> 00:50:03.309
that you can do there. Anyway, it's fascinating.

00:50:03.570 --> 00:50:05.969
Well, thank you, sir. That was a treat. Yeah,

00:50:06.010 --> 00:50:08.349
and it's a first. It's Dudes Like Us podcast

00:50:08.349 --> 00:50:12.570
first. A total first. I'm glad you guys listened

00:50:12.570 --> 00:50:14.530
to that, man. I appreciate it. Thank you. Yeah,

00:50:14.590 --> 00:50:17.480
no, it was great. All right, well, cool. So check

00:50:17.480 --> 00:50:20.739
out the band, though. So masonadamsproject .com.

00:50:20.820 --> 00:50:24.960
I have to plug us. Masonadamsproject .com. Do

00:50:24.960 --> 00:50:27.139
you have any planned gigs here? Yeah, we do.

00:50:27.420 --> 00:50:29.800
If you go to that site, you'll see some. I think

00:50:29.800 --> 00:50:35.260
we're playing, I want to say, it's November 22nd.

00:50:35.320 --> 00:50:38.000
I think we're playing at the Sweetwater Grill.

00:50:38.260 --> 00:50:40.320
We've got a couple different things coming up.

00:50:40.420 --> 00:50:42.659
I'm spacing out on where that is. I should know

00:50:42.659 --> 00:50:44.039
better than that. Playing at Barley House on

00:50:44.039 --> 00:50:46.570
December 20th. There, yeah. So there's different

00:50:46.570 --> 00:50:49.869
things going on. Yeah. So do you have difficulty,

00:50:50.210 --> 00:50:53.250
not difficulty, but when you're trying to book

00:50:53.250 --> 00:50:57.369
places to play, I mean, are you like a staple

00:50:57.369 --> 00:50:58.750
at some of these places to where they're like,

00:50:58.809 --> 00:51:00.809
oh, man, come on, come on. And you always have,

00:51:00.969 --> 00:51:02.769
you're always welcome when they have an open

00:51:02.769 --> 00:51:05.550
date to play there? Or do you have to kind of,

00:51:05.570 --> 00:51:07.730
you have somebody in your group that like, you

00:51:07.730 --> 00:51:10.619
know, has to sell it? and has to sell it and

00:51:10.619 --> 00:51:14.019
like push it and we promote you and we have to

00:51:14.019 --> 00:51:17.679
put so so so mason is is extremely talented on

00:51:17.679 --> 00:51:19.460
all these little things you see here may this

00:51:19.460 --> 00:51:22.440
is all mason stuff so he he's really strong with

00:51:22.440 --> 00:51:24.719
the marketing side yeah and that's where i kind

00:51:24.719 --> 00:51:27.440
of suck you know i'm more like I'll get out and

00:51:27.440 --> 00:51:30.800
play, and I'll post up, but I don't get. He's

00:51:30.800 --> 00:51:33.599
got a lot of time into this, and it's impressive.

00:51:33.940 --> 00:51:36.119
And so that's the next gig. It's in Union Valley.

00:51:36.300 --> 00:51:39.320
So Sweetwater Grill, and I think we have a canned

00:51:39.320 --> 00:51:42.239
food drive going on that Mason paired us up with.

00:51:42.340 --> 00:51:44.239
So it should be a really cool event. The weather

00:51:44.239 --> 00:51:47.239
should be good. But Union Valley, Texas, it's

00:51:47.239 --> 00:51:49.920
out a little ways. It's out there by Royce City.

00:51:50.000 --> 00:51:52.599
Yeah, it actually is Royce City, I think. For

00:51:52.599 --> 00:51:54.880
some reason, I think Union Valley is like a small

00:51:54.880 --> 00:51:58.710
little patch. It's out there east of Mesquite,

00:51:58.750 --> 00:52:02.150
a ways. Yeah, it's probably about an hour, 20

00:52:02.150 --> 00:52:04.369
minutes, 30 minutes. That's super cool. Have

00:52:04.369 --> 00:52:06.449
you played there before? Yeah, we did. We played

00:52:06.449 --> 00:52:10.590
there last year, and it went really well, and

00:52:10.590 --> 00:52:12.449
I know the venue liked us, and I know the people

00:52:12.449 --> 00:52:14.210
liked us, but I think they had some sort of,

00:52:14.230 --> 00:52:17.150
I don't know, softball tournament going on that

00:52:17.150 --> 00:52:20.110
was a really big deal out there, so not a lot

00:52:20.110 --> 00:52:21.469
of people were hanging out. Something weird happened.

00:52:21.469 --> 00:52:23.679
Was it San Diego Volleyball? No, I wish it was.

00:52:23.739 --> 00:52:25.500
Softball, softball, softball. Yeah, softball,

00:52:25.500 --> 00:52:28.159
yeah. My mind went automatically to the Olympics.

00:52:28.539 --> 00:52:30.739
The women's Olympic team. Yes, yes, yes. You

00:52:30.739 --> 00:52:32.340
see the new rules? They're going to be nude this

00:52:32.340 --> 00:52:34.559
time. Oh. Well, their outfits are going to be

00:52:34.559 --> 00:52:39.550
painted on. Yes. Oh, wow. Yeah, there you go.

00:52:39.969 --> 00:52:41.650
Yeah, there you go. There you go. And it's a

00:52:41.650 --> 00:52:44.469
nice, it's like an outdoor venue. But it's, yeah,

00:52:44.590 --> 00:52:46.789
masonadamsproject .com. And, man, we got a lot

00:52:46.789 --> 00:52:48.309
of different things coming up. Is there a dance

00:52:48.309 --> 00:52:50.550
floor out there? Yep, they got that. Yeah, there

00:52:50.550 --> 00:52:52.230
you go. Oh, that looks cool. It's kick -ass out

00:52:52.230 --> 00:52:54.250
there, yeah. It's very similar to the rail yard,

00:52:54.349 --> 00:52:56.150
yeah. It is. It's probably a little bigger than

00:52:56.150 --> 00:52:57.769
the rail yard, but it's a similar idea, yeah.

00:52:57.889 --> 00:53:01.820
So one of my coworkers lives in Rockwall. So

00:53:01.820 --> 00:53:04.880
I'll be sure to... And this is his gig. Hangtime.

00:53:04.980 --> 00:53:06.800
You ever been to Hangtime in Rockwall? I used

00:53:06.800 --> 00:53:09.320
to play there. I haven't, but I'm sure he has.

00:53:09.400 --> 00:53:10.880
So anyway, I want to tell him about this because

00:53:10.880 --> 00:53:13.639
this is down the road. It is in Adam's band.

00:53:14.000 --> 00:53:17.440
Mason Adams Project. Yes. Mason Adams Project.

00:53:17.639 --> 00:53:20.440
What is the other project? He does... Alan Parsons?

00:53:20.440 --> 00:53:22.340
Alan Parsons. Yeah, it's probably done on different

00:53:22.340 --> 00:53:24.119
things. Yeah, and there's like... He's got...

00:53:24.119 --> 00:53:27.159
I mean, Mason, he's got... Three or four, I think,

00:53:27.159 --> 00:53:30.460
CDs. If you go to any of the socials with music,

00:53:30.579 --> 00:53:34.539
I think you'll find a bunch of different songs

00:53:34.539 --> 00:53:37.820
on there. The site will take you to wherever,

00:53:38.000 --> 00:53:41.280
but yeah, you can go. Any of the social platforms

00:53:41.280 --> 00:53:44.940
will have his music. It's cool. It's fun playing

00:53:44.940 --> 00:53:48.019
with him, for sure. How do you know Chuck? I

00:53:48.019 --> 00:53:51.619
met Chuck because our kids played... baseball

00:53:51.619 --> 00:53:54.500
together and i was a coach and then i kind of

00:53:54.500 --> 00:53:56.400
talked him into being a coach too did you coach

00:53:56.400 --> 00:53:59.340
did you coach soccer at one time i did coach

00:53:59.340 --> 00:54:02.199
soccer at one time but um this was a baseball

00:54:02.199 --> 00:54:05.480
thing so um what chuck what do we have we had

00:54:05.480 --> 00:54:10.079
was it the the royals and then did we have the

00:54:10.079 --> 00:54:12.340
marlins did you yeah we had a couple teams but

00:54:12.340 --> 00:54:14.420
i know the royals for sure royals yeah you came

00:54:14.420 --> 00:54:17.280
on the world kind of private and tournament yeah

00:54:17.280 --> 00:54:19.460
yeah and we actually it was kind of funny we

00:54:19.900 --> 00:54:22.599
We handpicked some of these kids, and we had,

00:54:22.599 --> 00:54:25.219
like, this city team, which all we really were,

00:54:25.300 --> 00:54:26.860
we were playing tournaments, and we were beating

00:54:26.860 --> 00:54:28.840
these, like, big tournament teams that were spending

00:54:28.840 --> 00:54:32.079
$2 ,500 to be on the team. Ours cost $90. Yeah.

00:54:32.619 --> 00:54:35.360
And we were, like, full travel team. Oh, yeah,

00:54:35.360 --> 00:54:37.760
yeah. Select everything. They got a bus. And

00:54:37.760 --> 00:54:40.619
we're beating them. I mean, more than a few times.

00:54:41.130 --> 00:54:42.750
The parents were coming up, and I heard them

00:54:42.750 --> 00:54:44.750
getting mad. We didn't pay $2 ,500 to get ass

00:54:44.750 --> 00:54:46.610
kicked by a city team. You know, it was like,

00:54:46.630 --> 00:54:48.769
hell yeah. You said this was baseball? It was

00:54:48.769 --> 00:54:51.289
baseball, yeah. Just before high school, right?

00:54:51.889 --> 00:54:54.409
Yeah, it was like U12, you know, U13. Bad News

00:54:54.409 --> 00:54:56.409
Bears. Is that what that name was? Bad News Bears.

00:54:56.409 --> 00:54:58.110
Bad News Bears. It was baseball, yeah. It was

00:54:58.110 --> 00:55:00.219
baseball. So did you ever struggle with, you

00:55:00.219 --> 00:55:02.400
know, Chuck storming out on the field and you

00:55:02.400 --> 00:55:04.920
had to hold him back from the umpire and he's

00:55:04.920 --> 00:55:07.260
kicking dirt and, you know, like his anger, his

00:55:07.260 --> 00:55:09.000
anger management problem. It's probably more

00:55:09.000 --> 00:55:11.639
me. I mean, anger management problems. It was

00:55:11.639 --> 00:55:14.119
not on my end. What did we have that guy? Didn't

00:55:14.119 --> 00:55:16.139
we have to kick that guy off the team or out

00:55:16.139 --> 00:55:18.119
of the game? Yeah, we'll leave his name out of

00:55:18.119 --> 00:55:22.199
it. He was very special. Way too, you know, one

00:55:22.199 --> 00:55:24.099
of those guys that like his kids are the best

00:55:24.099 --> 00:55:26.860
kids ever to play. Isn't he crazy how many of

00:55:26.860 --> 00:55:30.190
us men? adult men it just act like well and women

00:55:30.190 --> 00:55:32.550
oh yeah women my wife yeah my wife's no better

00:55:32.550 --> 00:55:34.550
she'd probably worse than i am and yeah we just

00:55:34.550 --> 00:55:36.809
act like total imbeciles at these it's like youth

00:55:36.809 --> 00:55:39.010
games you're like reliving your youth i don't

00:55:39.010 --> 00:55:41.150
know what it is it's just weird it's it's it's

00:55:41.150 --> 00:55:44.809
tough but i now my nephew he's like on a u11

00:55:44.809 --> 00:55:48.130
u10 u11 team i'm not coaching but i'm just there

00:55:48.130 --> 00:55:50.769
as a spectator and there's yeah i see guys get

00:55:50.769 --> 00:55:52.849
thrown out like coaches getting thrown i mean

00:55:52.849 --> 00:55:55.219
it's just and the kids are sitting there They

00:55:55.219 --> 00:55:56.940
don't know what's going on. This is baseball,

00:55:56.940 --> 00:55:59.940
right? To me, it seems kind of strange for baseball

00:55:59.940 --> 00:56:01.980
to be getting all excited like that. Now, soccer,

00:56:02.039 --> 00:56:03.699
I can understand because there's a lot of physical

00:56:03.699 --> 00:56:07.469
contact and there's a lot of... Some of these

00:56:07.469 --> 00:56:09.849
girls are a little... The kids are little shitheads.

00:56:09.849 --> 00:56:13.389
Oh, yeah, they are. I'm embarrassed to even say

00:56:13.389 --> 00:56:15.590
this, but yes. It doesn't matter what the sport

00:56:15.590 --> 00:56:17.750
is. Parents can act like imbeciles because we've

00:56:17.750 --> 00:56:20.150
seen it all. We've seen football, basketball,

00:56:20.449 --> 00:56:23.489
soccer, baseball, but the one that my wife and

00:56:23.489 --> 00:56:27.849
I had to basically omit ourselves from is dodgeball.

00:56:29.329 --> 00:56:33.070
Dodgeball. It's totally stupid. We went to a

00:56:33.070 --> 00:56:34.929
field house where they had a dodgeball tournament.

00:56:35.920 --> 00:56:37.320
And it was supposed to be just, you know, stupid.

00:56:37.739 --> 00:56:39.679
But we decided to go out there and watch our

00:56:39.679 --> 00:56:41.699
boys play, and it was fun and stuff. The problem

00:56:41.699 --> 00:56:44.800
is kids cheat, right? That's crazy. They get

00:56:44.800 --> 00:56:47.199
hit. Yeah, yeah. They get hit, and then they

00:56:47.199 --> 00:56:49.179
won't leave the court. And you're like, it's

00:56:49.179 --> 00:56:51.179
hard not to be like, whoa, whoa, whoa. Yeah,

00:56:51.199 --> 00:56:53.199
because the game's going on. Yeah, he looks around,

00:56:53.400 --> 00:56:55.860
and oh, yeah, we made complete asses of ourselves.

00:56:56.119 --> 00:56:59.300
I had to. We had to. Is that you? Oh, yeah. There

00:56:59.300 --> 00:57:02.659
you go. My son played on your soccer team. No

00:57:02.659 --> 00:57:08.780
way. That's a pretty good little... That's crazy.

00:57:09.360 --> 00:57:12.500
That was 2007. You have a picture of him coaching

00:57:12.500 --> 00:57:15.960
your son? Yes. You have the same phone as 2007?

00:57:16.219 --> 00:57:20.079
No, the pictures. That's amazing. There you go.

00:57:20.139 --> 00:57:22.460
We can always be tracked what we've done. You're

00:57:22.460 --> 00:57:28.389
kidding. The Rangers, right? There you go. classic

00:57:28.389 --> 00:57:30.829
yeah that's actually soccer yeah that's why i

00:57:30.829 --> 00:57:32.389
asked i was like soccer i was like all right

00:57:32.389 --> 00:57:35.570
and then yeah that would have been frisky but

00:57:35.570 --> 00:57:37.150
yeah then it kind of moved to his i followed

00:57:37.150 --> 00:57:39.869
my son yeah i followed kind of his path so he

00:57:39.869 --> 00:57:41.269
started with soccer and then went to baseball

00:57:41.269 --> 00:57:43.150
so i just kind of followed along well i'm amazed

00:57:43.150 --> 00:57:45.530
you don't remember this father because he was

00:57:45.530 --> 00:57:48.489
oh i was maniac he probably kicked me out the

00:57:48.489 --> 00:57:51.349
game or something oh no it's okay yeah my youngest

00:57:51.349 --> 00:57:55.019
son played uh on your team that year. That's

00:57:55.019 --> 00:57:59.420
so crazy. Okay. Now he's 24. Do you guys miss

00:57:59.420 --> 00:58:01.619
it at all? I'm not sure I miss youth sports all

00:58:01.619 --> 00:58:04.579
that much. I don't. I'm appreciating the break

00:58:04.579 --> 00:58:07.659
between now and when grandkids come along. I'll

00:58:07.659 --> 00:58:09.500
start watching them then. It was all consuming.

00:58:09.820 --> 00:58:13.400
Every weekend was consumed for... Friday through

00:58:13.400 --> 00:58:17.159
Sunday. Tournament teams are even worse. Awful.

00:58:17.440 --> 00:58:20.460
And if you're a low seed, you have to play earlier

00:58:20.460 --> 00:58:25.199
in the day. And you're just wore out, man. Oh,

00:58:25.219 --> 00:58:26.599
yeah. It's tough getting drunk for those early

00:58:26.599 --> 00:58:29.980
games. You almost got to stay liquid the whole

00:58:29.980 --> 00:58:32.000
game. I didn't. I mean, I had some things in

00:58:32.000 --> 00:58:35.579
my Gatorade bottle back then. All the women at

00:58:35.579 --> 00:58:39.159
the FFL games had their... tumblers with... Oh,

00:58:39.179 --> 00:58:41.239
you know it. Oh, they totally did. They told

00:58:41.239 --> 00:58:43.440
us. Oh, they had vodka cranberries all in their

00:58:43.440 --> 00:58:46.159
big tumblers. Oh, yeah. It's for real. They get

00:58:46.159 --> 00:58:49.000
all snooty with me when I went out to the car

00:58:49.000 --> 00:58:50.760
and I had a little cooler of beer and they were

00:58:50.760 --> 00:58:52.679
like, oh, look at him. He's drinking beer. And

00:58:52.679 --> 00:58:55.239
I'm like... If I put it in the cooler, if I put

00:58:55.239 --> 00:58:56.880
it in the mug, it's okay then? Yeah, pour it

00:58:56.880 --> 00:58:58.500
in a tumbler. Nobody knows the difference right

00:58:58.500 --> 00:59:00.000
now. Lucky I wasn't drinking bourbon back then.

00:59:00.059 --> 00:59:02.280
I'd have been shit -faced. There you go. Did

00:59:02.280 --> 00:59:04.780
you fill out your box of red wine? I think I

00:59:04.780 --> 00:59:07.019
was doing red wine back then. Jordan was so nice.

00:59:07.099 --> 00:59:08.940
His kid got hurt, and he still kept coaching.

00:59:09.480 --> 00:59:13.559
Wow. I did. I did. He retired. Yeah, he ended

00:59:13.559 --> 00:59:18.340
up kind of an elbow sort of tendonitis in his

00:59:18.340 --> 00:59:20.739
elbow, so he really couldn't, and he was a catcher,

00:59:20.760 --> 00:59:22.480
so he couldn't really throw or whether it was

00:59:22.480 --> 00:59:25.130
hurting him. I just kept going with it. I mean,

00:59:25.130 --> 00:59:27.030
he was technically going to come back, and he

00:59:27.030 --> 00:59:28.969
just couldn't. Did he have Tommy John surgery?

00:59:29.449 --> 00:59:31.630
He did not, but that was next. So that's the

00:59:31.630 --> 00:59:33.769
problem. That was what it would have led to if

00:59:33.769 --> 00:59:38.070
he kept going. That's what we try to avoid. Yeah,

00:59:38.070 --> 00:59:40.949
so I kept going. But yeah, Chuck is right. It

00:59:40.949 --> 00:59:44.329
was definitely a labor of love. And a lot of

00:59:44.329 --> 00:59:46.820
drama on those teams. It was a good team. We

00:59:46.820 --> 00:59:48.679
had some divas. And I'm not talking the parents,

00:59:48.719 --> 00:59:51.840
the kids. Kids. Oh, man. Oh, man. Well, and they

00:59:51.840 --> 00:59:54.719
all have the dream to make the show and one out

00:59:54.719 --> 00:59:58.699
of 50 ,000 even make it to some level of college.

00:59:58.739 --> 01:00:03.780
Oh, yeah. Agreed. Shoot, the president of the

01:00:03.780 --> 01:00:08.559
West, in my office, in my, God bless it, my company,

01:00:08.719 --> 01:00:12.760
his son was on the Little League's World Series.

01:00:13.079 --> 01:00:17.320
Oh, wow. And they won. Wow. That's a coach. That's

01:00:17.320 --> 01:00:20.500
a big deal. That is a big deal. And I was kind

01:00:20.500 --> 01:00:21.659
of like, are you kidding me? Because he was kind

01:00:21.659 --> 01:00:23.559
of like, you know, he wasn't available for a

01:00:23.559 --> 01:00:25.119
while. I'm like, where's Andy at? Oh, I just

01:00:25.119 --> 01:00:26.760
said his name. But, you know, where's Andy at?

01:00:27.059 --> 01:00:29.440
Right. I think that's cool as hell, man. It is.

01:00:29.639 --> 01:00:31.159
Now, is that the one where they play like, you

01:00:31.159 --> 01:00:32.880
know, they'll play a Japanese team? Japanese.

01:00:32.940 --> 01:00:35.059
Well, it's World, right? Yeah. So it really is

01:00:35.059 --> 01:00:37.679
World. Yep. Yes. Okay. All right. True World.

01:00:40.170 --> 01:00:42.110
All right, well, you know what? We're doing a

01:00:42.110 --> 01:00:45.869
little sampling of the whiskeys, and it's Jeff

01:00:45.869 --> 01:00:48.469
and I and Chuck away on this one, but we picked

01:00:48.469 --> 01:00:52.110
up a bottle of, pulled this one out of the roster.

01:00:52.150 --> 01:00:56.510
They're the Clyde Mays 94 Proof Straight Rye

01:00:56.510 --> 01:01:00.989
Whiskey. It's aged three years. I think the bottle

01:01:00.989 --> 01:01:03.590
says four. Oh, does it? Yeah, this one's four.

01:01:03.630 --> 01:01:07.530
Okay, four years. Three's not super long. But

01:01:07.530 --> 01:01:11.239
I know we were big into Clyde Mays. Several years

01:01:11.239 --> 01:01:13.880
ago. And for good reason. And it's good. Actually,

01:01:14.059 --> 01:01:16.659
this is good. We haven't touched it in probably

01:01:16.659 --> 01:01:19.619
two, three years. We haven't because we're snobs.

01:01:19.760 --> 01:01:22.820
So for those listeners out there and for yourself,

01:01:22.940 --> 01:01:26.599
Jordan, we were. And we've kind of, we fell into

01:01:26.599 --> 01:01:29.119
a rut, I'm going to call it a rut, of just being

01:01:29.119 --> 01:01:31.159
kind of snobby and always gravitating towards

01:01:31.159 --> 01:01:34.019
super strong whiskeys, which is great. Yeah,

01:01:34.039 --> 01:01:36.059
I get it. But at the same time, we've got a whole

01:01:36.059 --> 01:01:40.679
treasure chest of other whiskeys that we're just

01:01:40.679 --> 01:01:42.719
sitting up there getting old. So we kind of made

01:01:42.719 --> 01:01:44.099
a business decision and said, you know what?

01:01:44.919 --> 01:01:46.679
these podcasts, because we have the first half

01:01:46.679 --> 01:01:48.619
and second half on Tuesday nights when we record,

01:01:48.900 --> 01:01:50.400
we're going to go ahead and start with the lower

01:01:50.400 --> 01:01:52.159
proof one on the first half and then dive in

01:01:52.159 --> 01:01:54.820
for the higher proof one on the second. I'm super

01:01:54.820 --> 01:01:56.639
excited about this one. This rye whiskey, first

01:01:56.639 --> 01:01:58.340
of all, we didn't like rye back then. We were

01:01:58.340 --> 01:02:00.619
kind of gravitating towards the wheat stuff and

01:02:00.619 --> 01:02:02.480
the regular whiskey, bourbon, and the rye, but

01:02:02.480 --> 01:02:04.800
this one. Well, I think we had a preconceived

01:02:04.800 --> 01:02:08.460
notion that rye would be all peppery and harsh.

01:02:08.500 --> 01:02:10.760
Super spicy and harsh. Harsh was the word, I

01:02:10.760 --> 01:02:14.960
think. This one is It is. I mean, I'm really

01:02:14.960 --> 01:02:17.880
enjoying this. It's sweet. It's got a very, very

01:02:17.880 --> 01:02:20.880
stone fruit. I'll get it out. It's got a stone

01:02:20.880 --> 01:02:25.559
fruit sweetness to it, like apricot, peach. I

01:02:25.559 --> 01:02:28.519
pick up a lot of tobacco on it as well. That

01:02:28.519 --> 01:02:30.380
first pool, I was like, wow, that's like chewing

01:02:30.380 --> 01:02:32.719
on tobacco almost. It was that strong for me.

01:02:32.820 --> 01:02:36.070
It's not so much now. But those first one or

01:02:36.070 --> 01:02:38.929
two pulls was very heavy in the tobacco. Well,

01:02:38.929 --> 01:02:41.510
this is very approachable, very crushable. You

01:02:41.510 --> 01:02:45.789
can stick a straw in it for 94 proof and affordable.

01:02:46.150 --> 01:02:51.869
Have you ever gone on a hike and tasted the honeysuckles?

01:02:52.130 --> 01:02:55.650
Oh, yeah. I am getting honeysuckle off of this.

01:02:56.010 --> 01:03:02.440
Interesting. Kind of a little floral. A honey

01:03:02.440 --> 01:03:04.719
taste to it. Yeah. Vanilla. I can pick up the

01:03:04.719 --> 01:03:07.679
honeys. What is that bought? What is the average

01:03:07.679 --> 01:03:10.920
price of that? 40 bucks. 45 bucks. That's not

01:03:10.920 --> 01:03:13.599
bad. 45. Oh, shit. Okay. Yeah, yeah. I missed

01:03:13.599 --> 01:03:16.860
that. Okay. Yeah, that's very doable. It is doable.

01:03:17.019 --> 01:03:20.900
And the process in which we were buying our stuff

01:03:20.900 --> 01:03:25.159
was we were buying 20, 30, 40, $50 bottles until

01:03:25.159 --> 01:03:29.230
we... got smarter and decided we were going to

01:03:29.230 --> 01:03:32.489
split the cost of what we're purchasing instead

01:03:32.489 --> 01:03:35.429
of all just buying separate bottles because we

01:03:35.429 --> 01:03:37.690
built up our inventory really quick. Oh, yeah,

01:03:37.690 --> 01:03:39.730
really fast. Buying three bottles a week, you

01:03:39.730 --> 01:03:43.030
know, that was a lot. Yeah, but we also had the

01:03:43.030 --> 01:03:44.969
impression that, you know, now there's all these

01:03:44.969 --> 01:03:48.010
$60, $70, $80 plus and they've got to be better.

01:03:48.549 --> 01:03:51.170
and we can't afford to be all burning 80 bucks

01:03:51.170 --> 01:03:52.730
every time we go. I don't know that they're always

01:03:52.730 --> 01:03:54.269
that much better. They're not. I don't know how

01:03:54.269 --> 01:03:58.909
they are. Money does not equate to quality. That

01:03:58.909 --> 01:04:01.929
is a true statement. Sometimes it does for sure,

01:04:02.050 --> 01:04:04.650
but moreover, like some of these whistles, some

01:04:04.650 --> 01:04:07.530
of the no -name brands out there, I don't want

01:04:07.530 --> 01:04:10.449
to throw stones at any specific person or company

01:04:10.449 --> 01:04:13.010
out there, but just because they cost more and

01:04:13.010 --> 01:04:15.050
they've got a name brand behind them does not

01:04:15.050 --> 01:04:17.539
push them. to the finish line. You know, there

01:04:17.539 --> 01:04:21.320
are some heavy hitters that you would never expect.

01:04:21.539 --> 01:04:24.420
You know, benchmark, foolproof. That fucks all

01:04:24.420 --> 01:04:26.829
day long. Oh, yeah. Old granddad, $114. $25.

01:04:27.150 --> 01:04:29.869
Old granddad? There's not a lot of higher proof

01:04:29.869 --> 01:04:32.329
ones in that price point, though, for the most

01:04:32.329 --> 01:04:34.710
part, right? I mean, $30, $40, $50 ones, you're

01:04:34.710 --> 01:04:36.190
not going to find a lot of high proof. Full proof

01:04:36.190 --> 01:04:38.789
is $125. Yeah, yeah. There's not a lot of them,

01:04:38.809 --> 01:04:40.769
though. Not a lot. No. No, there's not a lot.

01:04:40.769 --> 01:04:42.449
I think the people that are proud of their higher

01:04:42.449 --> 01:04:44.150
proof bourbons are going to push that up into

01:04:44.150 --> 01:04:46.190
$70. Well, the benchmark full proof, first of

01:04:46.190 --> 01:04:48.210
all, it's a subsidiary of Buffalo Trace Distillers.

01:04:48.389 --> 01:04:51.329
So, you know, they're in that same mash bill.

01:04:51.610 --> 01:04:53.309
Yeah, they're just located in a different part

01:04:53.309 --> 01:04:55.590
of the warehouse. It's the Rick House. What about

01:04:55.590 --> 01:04:59.170
$500 bottles of whiskey? That's out there, right?

01:04:59.309 --> 01:05:02.090
I mean, that's a thing. On the secondary, you

01:05:02.090 --> 01:05:05.929
can get. four or five hundred thousand two thousand

01:05:05.929 --> 01:05:08.590
three thousand dollars for some of these i don't

01:05:08.590 --> 01:05:10.849
i i wouldn't i won't personally subscribe to

01:05:10.849 --> 01:05:12.849
that now like pappies or something like that

01:05:12.849 --> 01:05:14.570
and it's just out of our price range and not

01:05:14.570 --> 01:05:17.590
it's nuts and that's that's a name brand also

01:05:17.590 --> 01:05:19.989
that i wouldn't i mean i wouldn't kick it out

01:05:19.989 --> 01:05:22.329
of bed if someone wants to you know provide our

01:05:22.329 --> 01:05:25.889
podcast for some sampling and to review it yeah

01:05:25.889 --> 01:05:28.909
by all means bring it on yeah but i am not going

01:05:28.909 --> 01:05:31.269
to drop a thousand dollars on a bottle even split

01:05:31.610 --> 01:05:35.289
between us you know I think that I'm pretty fortunate

01:05:35.289 --> 01:05:38.969
by getting some of these some of the complimentary

01:05:38.969 --> 01:05:41.530
bottles that we bring in here but shit we got

01:05:41.530 --> 01:05:46.530
the cowboy from Garrison Brothers that is a extremely

01:05:46.530 --> 01:05:52.849
meaty chunky hazmat and it's terrific and I can't

01:05:52.849 --> 01:05:56.130
wait we'll wait for Paul to oh it should be coming

01:05:56.130 --> 01:06:00.760
out again Whatever. We had the 10 -year. Shouldn't

01:06:00.760 --> 01:06:03.039
the 11 -year come out pretty soon? Yeah, I guess

01:06:03.039 --> 01:06:05.719
so. I think so. Yeah. Well, I think we're on

01:06:05.719 --> 01:06:08.280
a spending freeze for a while. Well, I'll tell

01:06:08.280 --> 01:06:11.460
you what. It's only $250. It's okay. So my coworker

01:06:11.460 --> 01:06:13.519
was sharing a picture with me today. She has

01:06:13.519 --> 01:06:16.940
her brother -in -law. Whatever. Her brother -in

01:06:16.940 --> 01:06:21.900
-law is in town. And he wanted to pick up some

01:06:21.900 --> 01:06:24.039
really nice bourbon. So he went on an allocated

01:06:24.039 --> 01:06:27.170
run. And then he told her. Hit as many scores

01:06:27.170 --> 01:06:28.730
as you can. I'm looking for this and this and

01:06:28.730 --> 01:06:30.449
this, the allocated stuff, and whatever it is,

01:06:30.469 --> 01:06:33.130
buy it. And so he had eight bottles. One of them

01:06:33.130 --> 01:06:39.750
was the Rio Cancer one. Not Rio. Penelope. Penelope

01:06:39.750 --> 01:06:42.570
Cancer one. Penelope. Fuck Cancer. Penelope.

01:06:42.650 --> 01:06:47.389
Cancer. Fuck Cancer. Penelope. Penelope, yeah.

01:06:47.650 --> 01:06:49.670
Yeah, we sampled that last night. Yeah, we did.

01:06:49.769 --> 01:06:54.730
Anyway, and he had an 18 -year. It was good,

01:06:54.789 --> 01:06:57.969
by the way. He had an 18 -year, oh, I'm trying

01:06:57.969 --> 01:07:00.090
to blank, the square bottle. Knob Creek. Knob

01:07:00.090 --> 01:07:02.289
Creek, thank you. 18 -year Knob Creek. I mean,

01:07:02.349 --> 01:07:03.849
he, and I was like, holy shit. You can't rain,

01:07:04.030 --> 01:07:07.750
man. I was like, yeah, no shit. I was looking

01:07:07.750 --> 01:07:10.230
at all those bottles, and I'm like, that's probably

01:07:10.230 --> 01:07:13.449
1 ,500 bucks. Easy. Oh, yeah. What he had spread

01:07:13.449 --> 01:07:16.090
out on that table that he had just bought for

01:07:16.090 --> 01:07:19.010
this weekend. That's amazing. Yeah, I'm like,

01:07:19.130 --> 01:07:21.550
well, good for him that he could do it. Yeah,

01:07:21.550 --> 01:07:23.449
kudos to him to drop that kind of money, but

01:07:23.449 --> 01:07:26.320
I'm just like, oh, God. Why? What about apple?

01:07:26.780 --> 01:07:29.360
Apple and flavored whiskey. Flavored whiskey.

01:07:29.360 --> 01:07:31.380
Are you guys into that or no? It's got to be

01:07:31.380 --> 01:07:34.519
the right setting, the flavored whiskey. I don't

01:07:34.519 --> 01:07:36.139
go to those bars. If you want something sweet

01:07:36.139 --> 01:07:39.920
or something like that, if you're looking for

01:07:39.920 --> 01:07:43.880
something sweet. It's great for, I make a mean

01:07:43.880 --> 01:07:48.239
mule. With apple. So you'll do an apple whiskey

01:07:48.239 --> 01:07:50.780
that way. Okay, I get it. In a mule, right? Mixed

01:07:50.780 --> 01:07:54.860
with ginger beer, mixed with a splash of Sprite,

01:07:54.860 --> 01:07:57.340
with some lime. I mean, it's a fantastic mixture.

01:07:57.340 --> 01:07:59.500
They're just not as strong, though. No, they're

01:07:59.500 --> 01:08:01.579
not. You kind of kill the power. Usually 70.

01:08:02.219 --> 01:08:05.639
But they're high in sugar. Tons. That's the part

01:08:05.639 --> 01:08:11.880
that we're already... us being at the place in

01:08:11.880 --> 01:08:14.420
our lives and our age, we're already pushing

01:08:14.420 --> 01:08:16.800
the envelope with what we're already drinking.

01:08:17.060 --> 01:08:19.399
So we're really trying to trim the fat as much

01:08:19.399 --> 01:08:22.180
as we can. And we're doing it. We're fairly,

01:08:22.359 --> 01:08:24.800
you know, I mean, as far as cutting out the Cokes,

01:08:24.859 --> 01:08:27.460
I mean, no longer Jack and Cokes. I mean, especially

01:08:27.460 --> 01:08:29.340
on special occasions. It's a lot of sugar, man.

01:08:29.539 --> 01:08:33.460
Tons. Oh, yeah, tons. What's it called? The Revel?

01:08:34.579 --> 01:08:37.039
Well, you get old -fashioned. You get like five

01:08:37.039 --> 01:08:39.460
of them. Oh, God. By the end of the night, it

01:08:39.460 --> 01:08:42.359
was just toxic, you know, and you could pound

01:08:42.359 --> 01:08:44.460
them. And so you're like, oh, give me a double

01:08:44.460 --> 01:08:47.039
chocolate Coke. Oh, I got an idea. Why don't

01:08:47.039 --> 01:08:50.180
we sneak in a few small little minis, and that'll

01:08:50.180 --> 01:08:52.699
save us some money. No. Then we get twice as

01:08:52.699 --> 01:08:55.060
fucked up. You're right. And buying more. And

01:08:55.060 --> 01:08:56.880
buying more. Yeah, we still bought the same amount.

01:08:56.920 --> 01:08:59.520
We just had the extras. All right. Let's go ahead

01:08:59.520 --> 01:09:02.659
and rate this really quick for the second time

01:09:02.659 --> 01:09:05.949
around. That kind of. That was abrupt. That's

01:09:05.949 --> 01:09:07.390
fine. Whatever. It is what it is. Dropped the

01:09:07.390 --> 01:09:09.829
bomb in there. Well, it's like a second half.

01:09:09.970 --> 01:09:11.789
We're going to rate this. First half. We're going

01:09:11.789 --> 01:09:15.409
to rate this for the Clyde Mays ride. Fuck, man.

01:09:15.430 --> 01:09:18.130
I'm going to give it a 6 .5, 6 .8. Yeah, because

01:09:18.130 --> 01:09:20.210
this is right in the range of the. No, this is

01:09:20.210 --> 01:09:22.970
a ride. The Victor's 10 was 95. So that's not

01:09:22.970 --> 01:09:25.170
even close to that. But, yeah, probably a six

01:09:25.170 --> 01:09:27.750
and a half on this. I'd give that. We have always

01:09:27.750 --> 01:09:30.029
been impressed with all the Clyde Mates. I don't

01:09:30.029 --> 01:09:31.430
think we've been upset with any of them. No.

01:09:31.649 --> 01:09:35.529
It's a solid brand. Solid family. $40, too. That's

01:09:35.529 --> 01:09:36.949
a good price. Chuck, for the record, what's your

01:09:36.949 --> 01:09:39.409
rating? I gave it a seven. I like it. There you

01:09:39.409 --> 01:09:42.449
go. Very nice. I'd have this on my shelf. It's

01:09:42.449 --> 01:09:44.750
a nice sipping one. It's nice, relaxing. If you

01:09:44.750 --> 01:09:47.149
want to get hammered, like, you know. Sure. It's

01:09:47.149 --> 01:09:48.510
always good to have some of that. I'm starting

01:09:48.510 --> 01:09:51.029
to appreciate, you know, kind of going dialing

01:09:51.029 --> 01:09:52.909
it back a little bit on some of the lower proof

01:09:52.909 --> 01:09:56.130
stuff. I am. Why not? I know, right? It's enjoyable.

01:09:56.609 --> 01:09:58.529
Well, it's because, you know, when I feel my

01:09:58.529 --> 01:10:00.630
Glenn carrying it up, when I've had a rough night,

01:10:00.689 --> 01:10:02.210
dude, I will. Like before I went to your house,

01:10:02.210 --> 01:10:05.489
dude, I filled it up that much. Yeah. And then

01:10:05.489 --> 01:10:06.949
consumed it before I went over to your house.

01:10:07.050 --> 01:10:08.449
That's why when I walked over there, I was like,

01:10:08.529 --> 01:10:11.409
hey, Paul, what's going on, buddy? Eyes are all

01:10:11.409 --> 01:10:13.750
crossed. But I was ready to go. I had a fun night

01:10:13.750 --> 01:10:15.810
that night. All right. Well, you guys got anything?

01:10:16.430 --> 01:10:18.510
Yeah, no, that was a great first half. Jordan,

01:10:18.550 --> 01:10:19.550
you stick around for the second half? I stick

01:10:19.550 --> 01:10:21.170
around. I appreciate you guys having me. Thank

01:10:21.170 --> 01:10:23.109
you. Yeah, no, we really appreciated you playing

01:10:23.109 --> 01:10:25.470
for us. I got more. I got more stuff. We got

01:10:25.470 --> 01:10:27.250
other things we can get into if you want. Yeah,

01:10:27.310 --> 01:10:29.010
let's definitely do it. Second half. All right,

01:10:29.010 --> 01:10:31.170
first half of the Dudes Like Us podcast. Check

01:10:31.170 --> 01:10:33.109
us out on Facebook and Instagram, dudeslikeus

01:10:33.109 --> 01:10:35.569
-podcast. It's November 11th. Thanks, Chuck,

01:10:35.670 --> 01:10:37.170
for being on Top of Stuff, Dudes Like Us. I'm

01:10:37.170 --> 01:10:41.789
Sean. I'm Paul. I'm Jeff. Jordan. Jordan. Jordan

01:10:41.789 --> 01:10:45.470
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