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Was that your crotch? No. Wow. What? Wow, we're

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getting started early. Did you put your knee

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all the way over here? Or is that your foot?

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Wow. Jeff's playing footsie. You can always tell

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the second half of the podcast. Welcome to the

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second half. Lord. I got to tell you something.

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It gives me no joy to say this. Oh, boy. That's

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not a good lead in. The Dallas Cowboys suck a

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big, fat nutsack. They do. Yes, they do. Dude,

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I don't want to hear it. What is going on? I'm

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a Tennessee Titans fan. I don't want to hear

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it. Well, they always suck. Well, yeah. They're

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1 -8. That's to be expected. What are we on?

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1 -7? 1 -8? What week are we on? 8? Well, here

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it is. Obviously, our guests aren't saying a

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damn thing, so I guess you're not huge Dallas

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Cowboy fans? We're not. No, not at all. I grew

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up a Pittsburgh Cena fan. Oh. Oh, here you go.

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How does that work? He's a Dallas Cowboy fan,

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Titans. I'm a Cincinnati Bengal fan. Football

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fan over here in the corner? I do. I love contact

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sport. I do like it. I would say, because I'm

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obviously married to a Steelers fan, that I have

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adopted the Steelers, but I love baseball. Okay.

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I love the Red Sox. Boston Red Sox. Hold on,

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hold on. What's your tie to the Red Sox? There

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he goes. How did that happen? It was. She likes

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red. It was. No, look, I didn't really grow up.

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In my household, we didn't really grow up with

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sports. Dad and my mom, they were just like,

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go to school, read. We weren't allowed to listen

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to certain type of music. We grew up on rock

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and roll. We weren't allowed to listen to anything

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else but that. And so sports wasn't a huge deal

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until I met Noe. And then, of course, he's just

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like, I love the Steelers. I love the Red Sox.

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You didn't really have a basketball team. But

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I started to like the Dallas Mavericks. So you

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really like basketball? Anything but football

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right now. I mean, I don't mind it. I'm not obsessed

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with it. I love just competition, so I like watching

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it. But the one sport that I kept and the team

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that I kept gravitating to was the Red Sox. There's

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nothing like going to a baseball game. Just a

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beer, a hot dog, popcorn. I just love the whole

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experience. I love it. Yeah, it's one of my best.

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I can explain all of this. It's the best day

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of my life. Oh, here we go. The real explanation

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is coming. No, it's because my dad. He was not

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a major sports fan. Okay. So he liked sports,

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but he didn't really care. So he said, pick the

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team you want. Yeah, take it or leave it. I don't

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care what you want. So when I was growing up,

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I saw College Game Day, Chief Asiola, Florida

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State, going in, putting the spear. And you're

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like, I like that. That's cool. I'm Florida State

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fan. And I've never changed. Nice. My uncle helped

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raise me. And all he would watch is the Steelers.

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So from a very three or four years old. The steel

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curtain. Fuck the Cowboys. Go Steelers. Is how

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I was raised. The Steelers were my first go -to

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fan, too. I'm a homer. So, you know, I grew up

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in Jersey. And so the Steelers were my favorite

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team. Yeah. And when I moved here, I just, you

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know, you got to. Eat where you... I am an A

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&M fan. Don't eat where you shit. I don't know

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where I was going with that. I will always root

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for the Aggies. Two of my sisters and my brother

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-in -law, they graduated from there. And so I

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grew up almost in College Station every summer.

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So I was like... grew up learning to not like

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UT, like the Longhorns at all. So that will always

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be ingrained in me, is always being Aggie over

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UT. I think Noe took me to a game and I'm like,

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I mean, it was cool, but I was like, they're

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just not my team. I can't root for them. So I'm

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an Aggie, Chuck's an Aggie, and you have fathers

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of Aggies right here. There you go. Isn't that

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crazy? That's wild. That's crazy. There was some

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division in our house for a while because my

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son played, from age, I don't know, however young

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you start, 10 through middle school. Well, the

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team he was on was the Longhorns. Oh, that must

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have been tough. Oh, it was. To give my wife

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credit, she did wear the Longhorn jersey during

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the games, but it came off right away as soon

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as she got home. And once he was off the Longhorns,

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it's like, yeah, that's not coming back to my

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house. Nice. That's great. It is. It's funny.

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Let's do a cap off here. It's the second half

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of the Dudes Like Us podcast. It's November 4th.

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Dudes Like Us, check us out on Facebook. Check

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us out on Instagram, dudeslikeus -podcast. And

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we also have a dudeslikeus -woodcraft. If you

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guys are interested in some of the swag that

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we produce downstairs in Jeff's garage, we've

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got a CNC machine that's got a laser and an engraver.

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If you want some magnets, I think you guys can

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leave with a magnet. I think I got keychains.

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God bless it. I don't know where the hell those

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are at. Chuck, staying on top of shit all the

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time, our producer. Dudes Like Us, I'm Sean.

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I'm Paul. And I'm Jeff. I'm Victoria. And I'm

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Noe. And yes, you guys are our esteemed second

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half guests as well. They stuck around. They

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did. I can't believe it. God bless it. You guys

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got the sample of the infinity. What's up with

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that? What do you guys think? It's my first.

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Full of flavor. I loved it. And it just had a

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lot going on. And it just felt like it worked.

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I don't know. It felt right. It felt right. Yeah.

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It changes every time you add something. Obviously,

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it changes some. And sometimes you go and you're

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like, hmm. That's not quite right or as good

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as it was. But I tell you, I'm doing something

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different serving it that I've never done before

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the last two times, and that's simply give it

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a whirl. Now I'm convinced that with all the

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different layers that are good. The viscosities

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and oils. Yeah, I'm thinking it's starting to

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layer. Minute as it may be. So now I'm kind of

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swishing it up a little bit and giving it a little

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rub down. I don't know. I'm relieved. I thought

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you said you were going to spit in it. I got

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to get it ready for my palate. You didn't. Okay.

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That did not happen. It's never happened. Good

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Lord. How are the Steelers doing, by the way?

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I know that they're probably doing better than

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the Cowboys. Unfortunately, I think they're doing

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okay. Well, I guarantee the Cowboys won three.

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Guarantee the first place in their division.

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No, they're fourth. No, that's another division.

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I guarantee the Cowboys won't lose this weekend.

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Guaranteed. Oh, they're on a bye week? They have

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a bye. Well, look at that. They are leading the

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division. So disliked. So how Aaron Rodgers is

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playing ball, huh? You're in a shit division,

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though. The Ravens? I think AFC Norris is the

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best division. I need another bottle of bourbon.

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What is going on with the Ravens? That's crazy.

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Although they're coming back. Lamar got hurt.

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He was out. Lamar is out. Everything based on

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him. So he's back. He is back. Shit. But still,

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I think they were 1 -4, even with Lamar. Yeah,

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they were struggling. They were struggling. Now

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they won two in a row. So Pittsburgh just beat

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the Colts, the alleged best team. I will say

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this. I think my Cincinnati Bengals, if they

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had a defense, they would be a contender. But

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their defense is worse than the Cowboys. Did

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you watch that game? Yes, they scored 42 points

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and lost. It was crazy how that game went back

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and forth in the final minute. They brought in

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Flacco, right? Yeah, they have Flacco. This is

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his third or fourth game, and he's figuring it

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out. Their offense is tight. Yeah, he's good.

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But the defense is so bad that 42 points still

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doesn't give you a win. Did they just lose a

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player to the Cowboys? Logan Wilson, yeah. He's

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a good linebacker. But it was crazy. So the Bengals

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drove all the way down. Flacco basically won

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it for them until they didn't because they left

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like 24 seconds on the clock. Oh, shit. And the

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other team came back and won. 58 -yard bomb.

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I know. It wasn't even a bomb. It was just like

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a tight end curl route that they missed the tackles

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on. I know. Two guys fell down and the tight

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end just keep rumbling forward. And that was

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it, man. It was painful. Typical. I got to be

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honest. With the Cowboys. And tethered in with

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my fantasy football team, it is a – you beat

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me, by the way. Congratulations. I did, yeah.

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It's really not that hard, actually. It isn't.

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It isn't. My team, I'm very disappointed. My

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team has potential, but it just – God bless.

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You had a good week last week. Yeah, Paul beat

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me last week. It's such a beatdown because you

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never know. I mean, I don't know if those folks

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out there – do you play fantasy? No. Have you

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ever? One year. You guys probably don't have

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a lot of time to do this kind of stuff. I stopped

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watching games about two years ago. Watching

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games completely? Completely. Do you listen to

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them on the radio at least on your drives? You

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want to go watch Pittsburgh? I watch highlights.

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When the game's over, I go to ESPN or YouTube

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and I watch a complete game recap and I avoid

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the ups, downs, everything. It's too stressful?

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Yeah, I don't. It ruins my day. But it's also

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a time thing. I mean, you guys are just busy.

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Busy on the go. And I sound like a horrible fan,

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but there's just more important things I could

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be doing than two or three hours for me. It's

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definitely not constructive. Right. But it's

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also, you know, it actually can be constructive.

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I mean, from a mental health point. I mean, if

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they're winning, of course. But, I mean, I enjoyed.

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Just the spirit of watching the game. It's a

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Sunday thing. It's a fall thing. It's the ambiance.

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Sometimes you get the guys over for the playoffs.

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That's a fun thing. Yeah, it's relaxing. I mean,

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it's something that you're looking forward to.

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I love to sit there for three hours and just

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curse. Do you get very upset if your team loses?

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Does it ruin your day? Does it ruin your week?

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It ruins that moment. But I get over it pretty

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quick because I've dealt with the Bengals my

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entire life, so I know what I've dealt with.

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It's just frustrating. Frustration sets in. You're

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like, whatever, and then I move on, then I'm

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fine. Right. I don't give a shit at all. I get

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more upset about the college losses. I'm a big

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Ohio State fan and the Aggies. And when they

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lose, that impacts me more than the Cincinnati

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Bengals. Well, you haven't had to worry about

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that this year, have you? No, really. Seriously.

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No losses between the two of those, so that's

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been good. I generally don't talk to my family

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for about six days. And then Sunday rolls around

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again. I'm like, hey, guys, you guys want to

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watch football? And they're like, oh, my God.

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Actually, you know what? It's all about expectations.

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I know we're going to win one game this year.

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We've already won it by luck. And so I have zero

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emotion about. You're just numb. After the game.

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Yeah, after the game. Now, during the game, I

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get pissed off and they should have done this,

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they should have done that. I do a lot of cursing.

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Now, are you drinking like whiskey and coke or

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is it just the straight whiskey? Because remember,

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we were working on that. I actually don't drink

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during the games now at all. Oh, man. My son

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might bring me a beer. If I drink at all, I drink

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beer. But I do not drink any whiskey during the

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game. Yeah, because I'd be like, yeah, fuck.

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What the hell, man? Son of a bitch. Yeah, so,

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I mean, again, it's all about expectations. I

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know we suck, so it's not a big deal, right?

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But I tell you, in the years where they're supposed

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to win the division and they're supposed to go

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deep in the playoffs and they lose, like in the

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championship game, I'm kind of sore. I'm sore

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for a couple days. To the Bengals, right? No,

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I don't know what you're talking about. I still

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have that picture. No, you don't. There's no

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picture. I'll send it. No, there's nothing. There's

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nothing about the Bengals in there. Anyway, it

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sucked. Derrick Henry's face. Tannehill threw

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a pick in the first play of the game. Okay, I

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don't want to talk about it. All right, we got

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to move on. Anyway. All right, so I was going

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to ask you guys about Rollertown. Do you do any

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local establishments? Well, first of all, what

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is Rollertown? Well, I was going to see if you

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found out, if you knew what it was. It's a roller

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rink. No, it is not. Oh, you don't do roller

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rinks? So it's a brand new, pretty hyped new

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bar and grill. It's a brewery. Oh, brewery. They

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relocated. So they were originally located north,

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right? In Salina? Yeah, I think it's Salina.

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So in this area, there's like new stuff happening

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all the time. You guys know that, right? Are

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you plugged into any of that? It's kind of hard.

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It's difficult. based on, because we don't live

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here, we don't see everything that's going on.

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Exactly. Not exactly tied in, but we get recommendations

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or we'll get referrals or things like this. Like

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this, we'll follow up with and go in and check

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it out and make some notes and try to get there.

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But also, it's, you know, going into a, you'll

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have a brand, you'll have everybody like, oh,

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I want to be in there. Let's be in there. It's

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not as easy just to get in there. No. You have

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to build a relationship, you know, and some,

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depending on the account, They're looking for

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certain things or they already have the paid

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sponsorships from brands. I was going to say,

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they usually already have a contact, right? Yeah,

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but it just depends. But it's something like,

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you know, Noe and I are never, we're not afraid

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of a challenge, but it's something that we have

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to build a relationship, find the right contact

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to get in there. It's not as simple as like,

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oh, I have this. Can you pick it up? It's not,

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you know, it doesn't work like that. You know,

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remember we were looking at the bar and they

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had just vodka, a bottle of vodka. Right? Yes.

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To make mixed drinks with. Are you saying vodka?

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Vodka. V -O -K -A. Whatever. Vodka. Vodka. Vodka.

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Vodka. Vodka. Vodka. That's their own. Well,

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it's V -O -D -K -A. It's fine. Phonetically.

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Can I get through that? Okay. Moving on. What

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did you say, Chuck? Go. That's their own. That's

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Duck Creek Vodka. Vodka. Vodka. Okay. So they

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make their own. I didn't know that. I did not

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know that. I didn't know that either. I just

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looked it up on their own. On their website.

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Interesting. It's probably not as good as...

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It definitely probably would not be. Also, too,

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it depends on our brands. If we take a brand

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that we know that's really not going to sell

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there, we can't put a brand everywhere because

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it might not be the right fit for the clientele

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that's going to move. Well, Live Oak Texas Vodka

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doesn't fit anywhere. It does. It fits everywhere.

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Yeah, it does fit everywhere. But if I'm going

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to like a speakeasy who's very bourbon heavy

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or whiskey heavy, like they're like, oh, we have

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like, they'll might, they pick it up, but it's

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like, it's not going to move as fast as everything

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else that we're making with. Live Oak, Texas

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vodka. Is that a good martini mix? I mean. Live

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Oak is the people's vodka. I would say that.

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They're for the people. They're for the community.

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It's made in a small town called Beeville, Texas,

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which is north of Corpus Christi. I think the

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population's like a little over 13 ,000. So it's

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really small. It's really small. They build a

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distillery. These people aren't from way out.

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They were born and bred there. God damn. They're

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bred there. I have no idea. It's a strange community

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where they breed people there. They come from

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good stock. They make very good vodka, so it's

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okay. No, they built the distillery there to

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bring economy there because there used to be

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a naval base. It closed down. And with that,

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obviously the families. Wow. Well, he shut down

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all the bases. Probably. Yeah. And so obviously

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the families moved and, you know, they're trying

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just to build a economy there. So they built.

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the distillery there. And, you know, they hire

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people, the locals, to come and bottle and help

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out. And, you know, they give back very much

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to that town. They're probably super proud of

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all of that. Very much so. That's really neat.

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Kenneth Bethune. Bethune. Good Lord. That is,

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what is going on over here? I don't know what's

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happening with you out there. Great guy, a lawyer

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by trade. He's a serial entrepreneur. So he has

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several stuff that other businesses, but he opens

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it in small towns. Again, he believes that even

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though small towns are part of our economy, no

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matter how small they are. And they're drying

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up. And they're drying up. So we have to protect

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some of that. So he's basically kind of trying

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to bring, like you said, economy back to small

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town America. I love that. Absolutely. Robert,

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he's the GM. We have the distiller, Craig. But

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just because it's a small town, there's nothing

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small about these guys. They have so much fight.

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They just became one of the proud sponsors of

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the San Antonio Spurs. Wow, that's huge. Very

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nice. It's very huge. So they signed an extensive

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contract with that. They have their own Live

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Oak bar in the arena. So they're doing well.

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They're fighting. They're taking the slots of

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some big brand names. And again, they're the

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people's vodka. Anybody who's partnered with

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Live Oak. And by the way, we partner with the

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people who want to partner with us. And one thing

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that they constantly say is that you guys give

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back. You guys care. You guys listen. Whatever

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we need to succeed, you guys are there for us.

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You're not just about the money. Well, they're

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the type of brand too. It's the first time I've

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ever seen it where we had an account. And Live

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Oak was not even in there, but they had a charity

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going on. They said, this is what we want to

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give them. Here you go. It doesn't matter if

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they pick up a bottle. This is a good cause.

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And of course, now that account is one of our

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best Live Oak accounts. Of course, they're picking

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it up and they're serving it everywhere. But

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those are the type of guys they are. They will

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give before they receive anything. And that's

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why we merge very well with them. Our core values

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are their core values. And they were our first

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client. Nice. Yep. So that made me think of a

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question. When you go into a place that you know

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is bourbon heavy, like a speakeasy, blah, blah,

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blah, how often are you doing a tandem of your

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products? Every time. I was going to say, that's

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a no -brainer. Right. So as soon as they trust

00:17:45.980 --> 00:17:47.339
you about the bourbon, they're going to trust

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you about the vodka. They're going to trust you

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about every product or what you're selling as

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a package. Yep. That's huge, I'm sure. It is.

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It is because they can find a way to leverage

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each other. And often Live Oak will lead the

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charge and then bourbon and then the whiskeys

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will come in. But recently the bourbons have

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been leading the charge. Oh, Swift is here. And

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you know they carry vodka. So it kind of all

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works. So we find a way to leverage all of them

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to each other's benefit. Yeah. That's a no -brainer.

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I find that interesting. You know they have to

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have everything. Right. You know what I mean?

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In every case, if you're trying to sell the vodka,

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you know there's an opportunity for the bourbon

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and vice versa. I never thought of myself as

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a vodka person, but I am. I do like vodkas. Maybe

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I'm just an alcoholic. Yeah, you like it all.

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Well, I do. I enjoy doing gins, and I definitely

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love tequilas. I love whiskeys. And vodkas, I'm

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starting to get kind of accustomed to. I mean,

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there was a time, and I was kind of like, ooh,

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it has to be potato vodka. Actually, grain vodka

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is just as good. I mean, potato has a tendency

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to be a little bit sweeter, but plus, I'm a huge

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fan of supporting Texas brands. Yes. Yes. We

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are too. Period. Yeah, and Live Oak is one of

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those brands that it stands behind something,

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so every time you buy a bottle, it's going to

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make... We always say it's an economy builder

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because everything that he does, he tries to

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give back as much as he can. He reinvests. And

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they give back a lot and they sponsor a lot of

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any type of mentorship or coaching programs for

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the youth. Does he sponsor podcasts? Depends.

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Depends if you start drinking vodka during it.

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Dude, we'll drink the shit out of some vodka

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if he can sponsor some freaking cameras. I'll

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drink it morning till night. I mean, what kind

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of commitment are you looking for here? So I

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saw the map up there. It looks like it's a South

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Texas, South Central Texas thing now. Is it slowly

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moving up north? Is that what you're trying to

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get to at this point? Yeah, so just north of

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Corpus Christi. And then San Antonio is the number

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one market at the moment. But Dallas is actually

00:20:05.799 --> 00:20:08.660
quickly coming up as number two. Houston is number

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three. And then Austin is at number four. El

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Paso is coming up too. El Paso is quickly on

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the rise. And the Rio Grande Valley is not far

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behind as well. So what we've done in our key

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thing is finding these partners in markets everywhere

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and then finding the people to work with and

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being able to do phone call or Zoom relationships,

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but still see them once or twice a year. But

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they trust us. They know us because they've met

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us in person. They know we're the real deal.

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And it's pretty impressive to see what San Antonio

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has done because they're really getting behind,

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not only with Live Oak being very close by, but

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just getting... They love their Spurs, so that's

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a really big deal for everyone involved. But

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in Houston, we're now the official partner with

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Rice University. And so at all Rice Athletics

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and banquets and anything going on with Rice,

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Live Oak is the only thing being poured on the

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vodka side. Live Oak, Texas vodka, I mean, vodka's

00:21:03.140 --> 00:21:06.809
period. I mean, we talked about... in the prior

00:21:06.809 --> 00:21:10.369
podcast how some of the alcohol, people are not

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drinking as much. And if they are drinking it,

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they're going to be drinking vodka because it's

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got less calories, from what I understand. And,

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you know, that's a huge thing. So, I mean, I

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can just imagine how their sales are probably

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surpassing some of the whiskeys. Well, and it's

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also one of the most competitive markets. I mean,

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tequilas are always going to be competitive,

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but we all know the category leader in vodkas.

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And then you have about 500 in there. And what

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Live Oak has been able to do since we've been

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a part of the last couple of years is just start

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to get more name recognition and really get out

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there. I brought you that bottle, and I said

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the middle -in -case brand. I wasn't joking.

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This is going to be a very big deal, and it's

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going to happen. So to see it grow like that

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is pretty special. So I have some ignorance about

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vodka. My understanding, not understanding, but

00:22:01.819 --> 00:22:05.690
when I think vodka, I think... The standard is

00:22:05.690 --> 00:22:09.809
vodka cranberry. So obviously there are people

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that drink it neat. Like martinis out of it.

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Huh? Like martinis out of it. Martinis. Okay,

00:22:15.930 --> 00:22:21.980
but is it primarily martinis? No. Give me the

00:22:21.980 --> 00:22:24.980
general spectrum of why vodka is so popular.

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It's a base drink. I mean, you can have a Collins,

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Coke. It doesn't have a lot of tonic. But it's

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always cocktails. It's always cocktails. 90 %

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cocktail. You can drink it up. Cold, frozen.

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There's not a lot of flavor to them. It's not

00:22:38.900 --> 00:22:41.279
like a whiskey, right? Unless you're an alcoholic,

00:22:41.559 --> 00:22:43.279
then you really enjoy some of those flavors.

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Okay, so it's a mixer. It is for the most part.

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By legal definition, vodka is an odorless, tasteless,

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clear spirit. And so it can be made from any

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- Unless you get pulled over. Correct. But the

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number one drink is soda, vodka soda. Vodka soda.

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Yes. Or do they - Vodka tonic. So this might

00:23:03.099 --> 00:23:05.500
seem like a dumb question. Vodka spritzer. But

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if vodka is odorless and tasteless, what difference

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does it make what vodka you put in with soda?

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What difference does it make? And that's the

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best part. And you just said it. That is the

00:23:15.079 --> 00:23:17.400
biggest challenge. Why Live Oak? Why would you

00:23:17.400 --> 00:23:19.440
pick Live Oak? I mean, you could substitute it

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for 60 other ones. I do taste the difference.

00:23:21.819 --> 00:23:25.099
100%. I think tasteless is a misnomer because

00:23:25.099 --> 00:23:28.980
vodkas do. Some are really harsh. Some are really

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smooth. Like a Fleischmann's vodka is horrible.

00:23:31.480 --> 00:23:33.599
Some will have some sweetness to it. There is

00:23:33.599 --> 00:23:36.500
some flavor to vodka. And I've had some really

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bad vodkas where you're just like, that's disgusting.

00:23:39.279 --> 00:23:42.599
Yeah. And I've had some good ones. Tart or something.

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Just caustic. It's very caustic. All right, so

00:23:45.599 --> 00:23:49.670
how do you guys battle that? Brand. Getting behind

00:23:49.670 --> 00:23:53.150
the story. When people see Live Oak on the retail

00:23:53.150 --> 00:23:54.970
shelf, they're like, oh, they're for a good cause.

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They help out the community. They're all about

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the industry. They just care. So they'll pick

00:24:01.269 --> 00:24:03.230
up instead of what their go -to, like, no, I'm

00:24:03.230 --> 00:24:05.190
going to go and support them. Because I'm familiar

00:24:05.190 --> 00:24:07.869
with them. So that's why branding is so important.

00:24:07.990 --> 00:24:09.490
Right. Because you're right. I mean, there's

00:24:09.490 --> 00:24:11.650
so many in the same category. And it is a good

00:24:11.650 --> 00:24:16.539
vodka. The leading category is Mr. T ends with

00:24:16.539 --> 00:24:20.420
O, and he leads the category, and that's okay.

00:24:20.599 --> 00:24:22.980
But when we taste it side by side, people are

00:24:22.980 --> 00:24:24.519
like, oh, I can get down with that. Plus, they're

00:24:24.519 --> 00:24:26.299
getting behind the story. They're like, easy

00:24:26.299 --> 00:24:29.119
switch. And the price point is actually Live

00:24:29.119 --> 00:24:31.779
Oak is a little bit less. Six bucks less, yeah.

00:24:31.980 --> 00:24:34.359
Yeah. So they're like all day, every day. And

00:24:34.359 --> 00:24:36.779
it just takes those little switches. And people

00:24:36.779 --> 00:24:39.200
knowing, but it's the story that people want

00:24:39.200 --> 00:24:41.420
to get behind. Remember, people always want to

00:24:41.420 --> 00:24:44.220
be part of something. Yes. And it's not always

00:24:44.220 --> 00:24:46.259
about the facts of what you're telling them.

00:24:46.279 --> 00:24:48.099
It's how you're making them feel. Right. And

00:24:48.099 --> 00:24:51.200
if they feel, oh. I'm a live oak guy. Yeah. This

00:24:51.200 --> 00:24:54.380
is it. Just like you're a rum drinker. I'm a

00:24:54.380 --> 00:24:56.619
Captain Morgan guy. The way you were about 1845.

00:24:57.210 --> 00:25:00.349
You guys are very passionate because you know

00:25:00.349 --> 00:25:03.230
the people. I'm a blah, blah, blah. Exactly.

00:25:03.269 --> 00:25:06.029
And when you get that belief behind something,

00:25:06.190 --> 00:25:09.809
you just have to do it over and over and over.

00:25:09.849 --> 00:25:13.250
It took the category leader, it took him 10 years

00:25:13.250 --> 00:25:15.630
to get recognized. Everyone thinks it was an

00:25:15.630 --> 00:25:18.289
overnight thing, but the guy, everyone told him

00:25:18.289 --> 00:25:21.240
he was nuts. bringing a vodka to Texas and doing

00:25:21.240 --> 00:25:23.019
that in Texas. There's no way nobody's going

00:25:23.019 --> 00:25:25.619
to buy Texas vodka. Vodka was Russian. It was

00:25:25.619 --> 00:25:29.059
a Russian thing. European. Ukrainian. All of

00:25:29.059 --> 00:25:31.440
a sudden, Texas? They have a corner on that market.

00:25:32.680 --> 00:25:37.140
I won't go down the rabbit hole of the market

00:25:37.140 --> 00:25:40.700
leader. What about the number of times distilled?

00:25:40.720 --> 00:25:42.460
They always talk about that. Oh, this has been

00:25:42.460 --> 00:25:45.950
distilled 10 times, 8 times. You know, if you

00:25:45.950 --> 00:25:48.269
have to filter it so many times and you should

00:25:48.269 --> 00:25:50.750
think about what you're just saying, like live

00:25:50.750 --> 00:25:53.710
oak is eight times distilled. Okay. But I've

00:25:53.710 --> 00:25:56.970
heard people like, well, I'm 32. Right. Why do

00:25:56.970 --> 00:25:59.329
you have to distill it 32 times? Because you

00:25:59.329 --> 00:26:01.990
really want it to be odorless and tasteless.

00:26:02.150 --> 00:26:04.009
I mean, so it just, you know, a lot of people

00:26:04.009 --> 00:26:05.950
use that and I'm not bashing anyone. I'm just,

00:26:06.049 --> 00:26:08.569
you know, at the end of the day, everyone, it's

00:26:08.569 --> 00:26:11.259
pretty hard to make a bad product. these days.

00:26:11.339 --> 00:26:13.099
I mean, most people are making decent products,

00:26:13.140 --> 00:26:14.920
so that's why everything else is so important.

00:26:15.079 --> 00:26:16.779
The marketing, the story, the branding. Yeah,

00:26:16.839 --> 00:26:19.980
just set yourself apart. We have some bad bourbons

00:26:19.980 --> 00:26:24.559
out there. Without naming names, what makes them

00:26:24.559 --> 00:26:30.259
bad? I just let that go. Their aging process,

00:26:30.500 --> 00:26:32.960
they had some technical thing where it says,

00:26:33.039 --> 00:26:34.960
we've aged this, we've aged it two weeks. They

00:26:34.960 --> 00:26:37.819
try to flash it. So it's some scientific process,

00:26:37.900 --> 00:26:42.099
and it didn't work. At all. Do you guys see light

00:26:42.099 --> 00:26:44.839
whiskeys being a thing? What do you mean light

00:26:44.839 --> 00:26:47.920
whiskey? So we recently did a festival down in

00:26:47.920 --> 00:26:50.359
South Texas, and I saw three booths that each

00:26:50.359 --> 00:26:54.039
had light whiskeys. And I think they were basically

00:26:54.039 --> 00:26:57.500
two -year. We're not a huge fan of that. Well,

00:26:57.500 --> 00:26:59.900
two years could be a straight bourbon if it's

00:26:59.900 --> 00:27:03.299
bourbon, right? You're basically taking out of

00:27:03.299 --> 00:27:07.160
the barrel, you're dripping it on some oak stakes

00:27:07.160 --> 00:27:09.779
and then right into the bottle. No, I'm not.

00:27:10.640 --> 00:27:14.480
Yeah. Go ahead. We like more of a rich flavor.

00:27:14.759 --> 00:27:18.119
We've gravitated towards more of the barrel mixes,

00:27:18.319 --> 00:27:21.240
stuff that's been in there a long time. We don't

00:27:21.240 --> 00:27:22.940
want ours mixed at all. But you know what? I

00:27:22.940 --> 00:27:25.460
mean, yeah, light whiskeys are light, right?

00:27:25.579 --> 00:27:28.220
So they're not as flavorful as what we're having

00:27:28.220 --> 00:27:29.839
here. But there's a time and place for everything.

00:27:30.059 --> 00:27:32.779
I mean, I can mix like a light whiskey perhaps

00:27:32.779 --> 00:27:36.299
with maybe some iced tea. You know, I mean, no,

00:27:36.400 --> 00:27:38.200
I mean, I'm not being sarcastic, you know, because

00:27:38.200 --> 00:27:41.180
that is kind of nice. It's lighter. You're not

00:27:41.180 --> 00:27:43.299
because you're not looking for. I would call

00:27:43.299 --> 00:27:46.440
those whiskeys more of a mixer. You know, I would

00:27:46.440 --> 00:27:49.700
mix them with a soda, you know, or pop or whatever

00:27:49.700 --> 00:27:52.539
you want to, you know, Coke or Sprite soda. But

00:27:52.539 --> 00:27:56.759
I wouldn't like I wouldn't like desecrate a fantastic

00:27:56.759 --> 00:28:00.059
whiskey or bourbon by mixing with anything, not

00:28:00.059 --> 00:28:02.599
even an ice cube. I think I think the next up

00:28:02.599 --> 00:28:04.869
and coming. at least in the whiskey realm, are

00:28:04.869 --> 00:28:07.890
the single malts because the American single

00:28:07.890 --> 00:28:10.549
malt was just officially made of the next line.

00:28:10.549 --> 00:28:12.769
Its own category. Its own category, right? So

00:28:12.769 --> 00:28:15.549
I think that, because we've got some really good

00:28:15.549 --> 00:28:17.930
single malts out there that we really enjoy,

00:28:18.150 --> 00:28:20.789
and we're starting to branch out and get more

00:28:20.789 --> 00:28:22.970
of those, right? And those are generally lighter

00:28:22.970 --> 00:28:25.509
because they don't age them as long, right? Right.

00:28:25.549 --> 00:28:28.309
The single malts. Some of them do. Some. Well,

00:28:28.410 --> 00:28:30.410
single malt, I mean, that's a scotch, right?

00:28:30.549 --> 00:28:34.259
Yeah. But the American single malts, I think,

00:28:34.279 --> 00:28:36.539
are a little different. I like them better than

00:28:36.539 --> 00:28:40.160
a scotch, personally. Interesting. I don't like

00:28:40.160 --> 00:28:42.119
the peat, for one thing. Yeah, the smoked peat's

00:28:42.119 --> 00:28:45.579
kind of a no -go for me. Not all scotch is peated,

00:28:45.619 --> 00:28:48.940
but I'm really... We've got some rare characters

00:28:48.940 --> 00:28:52.640
out there. I think Balcones makes a single malt

00:28:52.640 --> 00:28:55.849
that's... So I picked up... I was... traveling

00:28:55.849 --> 00:28:59.130
and I met a guy. We did a little trade with whiskey

00:28:59.130 --> 00:29:02.549
and I picked up a Balcones Scheinerbach single

00:29:02.549 --> 00:29:06.269
malt. And you can't find it. I don't know if

00:29:06.269 --> 00:29:08.250
you can pull that up, Mr. Producer. Scheinerbach

00:29:08.250 --> 00:29:12.470
single malt Balcones. But it's terrific. I'm

00:29:12.470 --> 00:29:14.049
enjoying the hell out of it. And we had that

00:29:14.049 --> 00:29:16.650
bottle Wolves that's made in California. You

00:29:16.650 --> 00:29:19.049
hear California like, well, I'm not drinking

00:29:19.049 --> 00:29:22.210
any shit. But that stuff was good. It was fantastic.

00:29:22.910 --> 00:29:25.009
Highly desirable. Man, if you guys don't mind,

00:29:25.359 --> 00:29:27.460
After we look up the Schaderbach, I want to change

00:29:27.460 --> 00:29:30.059
gears a little bit and kind of dive in. It's

00:29:30.059 --> 00:29:32.160
got a Schaderbach, that right there. God bless.

00:29:32.319 --> 00:29:37.380
That is terrific. That is terrific. Interesting.

00:29:37.660 --> 00:29:42.200
Yeah. Is it aged in Schaderbach barrels? I don't

00:29:42.200 --> 00:29:44.079
think Schoenberg comes in. I don't know. That's

00:29:44.079 --> 00:29:45.720
a great question. I didn't really dive into the

00:29:45.720 --> 00:29:47.839
history of it. I just sampled it on Halloween

00:29:47.839 --> 00:29:49.700
night, which is kind of where I'm going with

00:29:49.700 --> 00:29:51.140
this next question. I mean, what did you guys

00:29:51.140 --> 00:29:53.400
do for Halloween? Did you celebrate? Did you

00:29:53.400 --> 00:29:56.339
get dressed up? Did you have any parties? I know.

00:29:56.400 --> 00:29:59.519
You look like the break dancing kind of guy.

00:29:59.579 --> 00:30:01.220
You whipped out some cardboard and started doing

00:30:01.220 --> 00:30:03.440
some dancing, right? Right, right. Sparkly clothes.

00:30:03.660 --> 00:30:07.240
Yeah. A little red leather pants zip up. I'm

00:30:07.240 --> 00:30:10.039
the most boring person for Halloween. Oh, wow.

00:30:10.079 --> 00:30:12.400
We worked and then we went home and smoked cigars

00:30:12.400 --> 00:30:16.299
and drank whiskey. Well, no. Halloween, we weren't

00:30:16.299 --> 00:30:18.960
even together. Oh, shit. That's right. You were

00:30:18.960 --> 00:30:20.559
here in Dallas and I was in Houston. That was

00:30:20.559 --> 00:30:21.839
the day after. That was November. I was accepting

00:30:21.839 --> 00:30:26.579
the game ball for the Rice -Miffiss football

00:30:26.579 --> 00:30:28.640
game. Oh, fun. Wow, that's quite the testimony.

00:30:28.720 --> 00:30:31.259
That is cool. Yeah, I got on the field and they

00:30:31.259 --> 00:30:33.559
gave me the game ball and coach signed it and

00:30:33.559 --> 00:30:36.160
everything like that. And you had a costume of

00:30:36.160 --> 00:30:39.619
Catwoman? No, no costume. Just had a live -up

00:30:39.619 --> 00:30:43.079
hat on and jeans and a shirt. It was pretty simple.

00:30:43.660 --> 00:30:45.539
You could have lied. You could have lied. Yeah.

00:30:47.000 --> 00:30:49.279
I'm not that type of gal. All right, so what

00:30:49.279 --> 00:30:52.000
holiday do you celebrate? What's your favorite

00:30:52.000 --> 00:30:55.900
holiday? I would think Thanksgiving is always

00:30:55.900 --> 00:30:58.819
the best. Okay. Just because we get to get together,

00:30:58.920 --> 00:31:00.380
and Victoria and I will always pick something

00:31:00.380 --> 00:31:03.460
fun to do. We love our families. We love them,

00:31:03.539 --> 00:31:06.640
but this is our family. So whether it's going

00:31:06.640 --> 00:31:08.579
to a really fancy hotel that we can't afford

00:31:08.579 --> 00:31:11.839
and doing that or traveling to a beach town and

00:31:11.839 --> 00:31:14.180
doing something completely off the cuff. And

00:31:14.180 --> 00:31:16.099
then every now and then we'll alternate her family

00:31:16.099 --> 00:31:18.319
and my family. But for the most part, we try

00:31:18.319 --> 00:31:19.720
to spend it together and doing our own little

00:31:19.720 --> 00:31:22.339
thing. That's cool. That's a little different

00:31:22.339 --> 00:31:24.059
than what people normally do for Thanksgiving.

00:31:24.480 --> 00:31:28.299
Yeah. So we kind of go by our own path and just

00:31:28.299 --> 00:31:30.440
kind of. We work in our families. Like I said,

00:31:30.460 --> 00:31:32.839
we love them both, but ultimately we pick something

00:31:32.839 --> 00:31:35.519
unique and different to do. My sister did that

00:31:35.519 --> 00:31:37.599
with her family. They would go on vacation every

00:31:37.599 --> 00:31:39.960
Thanksgiving. She would never cook Thanksgiving.

00:31:40.339 --> 00:31:43.019
Right. And she would visit us. They'd visit us

00:31:43.019 --> 00:31:45.000
every now and then, but they'd go on vacations

00:31:45.000 --> 00:31:48.720
to the beach typically and spend the week at

00:31:48.720 --> 00:31:51.730
a beach. She goes, it's not crowded. Prices are

00:31:51.730 --> 00:31:53.670
better, and I want to cook. Prices are really

00:31:53.670 --> 00:31:55.630
good. And I'm with my family. That's actually

00:31:55.630 --> 00:31:57.809
a good idea, because my wife, she laments about

00:31:57.809 --> 00:31:59.170
it. I'm like, well, we need to get together and

00:31:59.170 --> 00:32:01.309
have our own Thanksgiving. She's like, how is

00:32:01.309 --> 00:32:04.230
that different than any other day? You know what

00:32:04.230 --> 00:32:05.630
I mean? I'd love to be able to do that. And I

00:32:05.630 --> 00:32:08.269
get that. I was like, okay, well, you know. We

00:32:08.269 --> 00:32:10.049
don't eat turkey every day. Right, well, she

00:32:10.049 --> 00:32:13.289
won't eat turkey, so I do a brisket or I do a

00:32:13.289 --> 00:32:15.930
pork shoulder, right? Sorry, what? I do a brisket

00:32:15.930 --> 00:32:17.690
or a pork shoulder. She doesn't like turkey?

00:32:17.829 --> 00:32:22.410
She doesn't like turkey. Not like Thanksgiving

00:32:22.410 --> 00:32:25.769
turkey. She'll buy turkey lunch meat, but that's

00:32:25.769 --> 00:32:28.549
different. Out of a Lunchable? I don't know.

00:32:28.569 --> 00:32:30.529
Maybe it's a different type of turkey. I'm not

00:32:30.529 --> 00:32:34.109
sure why her... Like a big smoked turkey leg.

00:32:34.490 --> 00:32:36.930
Yeah, she just won't do a turkey. That's all

00:32:36.930 --> 00:32:38.990
right. Different strokes for different folks.

00:32:39.150 --> 00:32:41.730
That's right. For Halloween, we usually have...

00:32:41.730 --> 00:32:44.170
I was happy you came out. We had a good time

00:32:44.170 --> 00:32:45.450
for Halloween. Yeah, we did. We usually have

00:32:45.450 --> 00:32:49.550
a shindig at my house. We set up like... sound

00:32:49.550 --> 00:32:52.890
equipment, and we do karaoke and DJing, and we've

00:32:52.890 --> 00:32:54.650
got some people that show up. We've got lots

00:32:54.650 --> 00:32:57.549
of food, and we dress up. It's a little celebration.

00:32:58.069 --> 00:32:59.730
Sometimes there's some guards that come out,

00:32:59.809 --> 00:33:02.130
but a lot of it, you know, I'm going to use the

00:33:02.130 --> 00:33:04.289
word faggishly, but I don't mean that in a sexual

00:33:04.289 --> 00:33:06.230
way. I just mean that we're walking around with

00:33:06.230 --> 00:33:08.390
Glencairn glasses, just a bunch of us, like,

00:33:08.410 --> 00:33:11.849
and I'm like, why don't you step into my office?

00:33:12.049 --> 00:33:14.509
And I got my office. It all looks like a cave,

00:33:14.690 --> 00:33:17.529
you know, or I'm sorry, a cabin, and we just

00:33:17.529 --> 00:33:20.390
kind of a sample. He'll pull down some special

00:33:20.390 --> 00:33:22.049
bottle and blow dust off of it and we'll all

00:33:22.049 --> 00:33:24.849
be like, oh, that's fantastic. Roar. I'll have

00:33:24.849 --> 00:33:28.410
some of that. Roar. How about a drum? And the

00:33:28.410 --> 00:33:30.430
next morning I wake up, it's like, I opened what?

00:33:31.829 --> 00:33:35.990
Right. Holy shit, it's gone. Fucking Jeff, I

00:33:35.990 --> 00:33:37.829
knew it. I wasn't even there this time. Yeah,

00:33:37.829 --> 00:33:39.930
you weren't. I can't blame it on you. But that's

00:33:39.930 --> 00:33:41.710
something we enjoy. That's something my family

00:33:41.710 --> 00:33:44.630
does. As much as I would love to get away with

00:33:44.630 --> 00:33:46.609
my wife and do something fantastic like, which

00:33:46.609 --> 00:33:49.000
I think is a a great idea. Kudos to you. I'm

00:33:49.000 --> 00:33:52.480
kind of dug in with my wife's side of the family.

00:33:52.700 --> 00:33:54.940
They just got this routine where they have multi

00:33:54.940 --> 00:33:58.160
-generational get -togethers. We have Thanksgiving.

00:33:58.359 --> 00:34:02.059
God bless. It's a jamboree. I think this year,

00:34:02.099 --> 00:34:03.980
Julie and I are going to be going down to Fredericksburg.

00:34:05.200 --> 00:34:10.800
Because both the boys and their fiancés, we're

00:34:10.800 --> 00:34:13.679
getting into that stage of, okay, now their families

00:34:13.679 --> 00:34:15.900
are coming into this. We're doing ours actually

00:34:15.900 --> 00:34:19.260
on Friday. So on Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday,

00:34:19.619 --> 00:34:21.780
we'll drive back Thursday. I think we're going

00:34:21.780 --> 00:34:23.519
to go down and get a cabin down at Fredericksburg.

00:34:23.519 --> 00:34:27.559
It's wineries. Maybe Garrison Brothers down there

00:34:27.559 --> 00:34:29.699
if they're open. There you go. You could join

00:34:29.699 --> 00:34:31.719
the line that does the waxing and get all blown

00:34:31.719 --> 00:34:34.119
up. Yeah, that's true. I hear you get a free

00:34:34.119 --> 00:34:35.849
sandwich. You know what I'm talking about? You

00:34:35.849 --> 00:34:36.909
guys know what I'm talking about? The Garrison

00:34:36.909 --> 00:34:38.550
Brothers? Yeah, yeah. You can be part of the

00:34:38.550 --> 00:34:40.469
volunteer crew. I knew about that part, yeah.

00:34:40.769 --> 00:34:41.710
Yeah, that's what I'm talking about. Where you

00:34:41.710 --> 00:34:44.769
do the waxing and they give you free brews the

00:34:44.769 --> 00:34:46.449
whole time. I've never done it, but it looks

00:34:46.449 --> 00:34:49.610
super fun. Well, there's a lighting of... They

00:34:49.610 --> 00:34:51.969
have that little... We've done... Thanksgiving

00:34:51.969 --> 00:34:53.690
in Fredericksburg and they have the lighting

00:34:53.690 --> 00:34:57.489
of the town square. That's another thing. What's

00:34:57.489 --> 00:34:59.590
going on in there on Thanksgiving? Are they even

00:34:59.590 --> 00:35:02.449
open and stuff like that? The whole downtown

00:35:02.449 --> 00:35:04.469
is all lit up. They've got an ice rink, I think.

00:35:05.170 --> 00:35:06.690
Dude, that's so cool. You guys are giving me

00:35:06.690 --> 00:35:08.929
ideas for this whole destination thing. I think

00:35:08.929 --> 00:35:11.510
you should always change it up, especially in

00:35:11.510 --> 00:35:14.610
a marriage. in a partnership, you got to change

00:35:14.610 --> 00:35:17.449
it up and get a little something different. It

00:35:17.449 --> 00:35:20.269
kind of sparks things up and, and you see if

00:35:20.269 --> 00:35:22.090
you like it or not and be like, Oh, you know,

00:35:22.090 --> 00:35:24.010
this was really nice. And, you know, decompress

00:35:24.010 --> 00:35:25.550
because holidays are pretty stressful anyway,

00:35:25.630 --> 00:35:28.750
but yeah, try something different. Yeah. Like

00:35:28.750 --> 00:35:32.119
sparkly, sparkly pajamas. I'm working on that.

00:35:32.280 --> 00:35:35.239
Okay. Yes. When you say sparkly, is it like bling?

00:35:35.739 --> 00:35:38.139
Sparkly pajamas. Like sequins? I'm just saying

00:35:38.139 --> 00:35:41.420
spice it up. Spice it up. Yeah. We don't have

00:35:41.420 --> 00:35:43.739
to get into details. I'm just saying. I'm just

00:35:43.739 --> 00:35:48.739
saying. That's not going to do it for me. Hey,

00:35:48.840 --> 00:35:50.820
Chuck, you mind passing over those Swifties?

00:35:50.840 --> 00:35:53.360
I want to take a closer look at those. I brought

00:35:53.360 --> 00:35:54.920
up some extra Glencairns. We're going to do some

00:35:54.920 --> 00:35:57.280
samples because we've got... Okay, yes. Let's

00:35:57.280 --> 00:36:01.010
talk about this. NVU. Grab one of these guys.

00:36:01.090 --> 00:36:04.510
These do look light, by the way. Well, you said

00:36:04.510 --> 00:36:07.670
they're not toasted barrels, right? Yeah. So

00:36:07.670 --> 00:36:10.409
she does, Amanda starts with three ingredients.

00:36:10.530 --> 00:36:13.269
Let's do this one first. Barley, water, and yeast.

00:36:13.809 --> 00:36:16.329
And here's the best part about everything. Like

00:36:16.329 --> 00:36:18.489
I mentioned earlier, she used registered distillery

00:36:18.489 --> 00:36:21.610
number 12 in the state of Texas. And from day

00:36:21.610 --> 00:36:25.829
one, it has been husband and wife. And how long

00:36:25.829 --> 00:36:29.000
ago was that? 13 years. 13 years. Okay. So she

00:36:29.000 --> 00:36:31.079
has been in the whiskey business for 13 years.

00:36:31.940 --> 00:36:34.519
Nice. And her and her husband came up with the

00:36:34.519 --> 00:36:37.500
idea. They traveled the world. They've met some

00:36:37.500 --> 00:36:40.219
of the best distillers in the world. And they've

00:36:40.219 --> 00:36:43.300
kind of given them their opinion on how to do

00:36:43.300 --> 00:36:45.840
this. And they came back and started making this,

00:36:45.920 --> 00:36:48.400
like I said, 15 years ago and then released it

00:36:48.400 --> 00:36:52.179
13 years. And it's just a great story. And she

00:36:52.179 --> 00:36:54.949
was way ahead of the single malt category. and

00:36:54.949 --> 00:36:57.230
they basically wanted to make whiskey that they

00:36:57.230 --> 00:37:03.809
enjoyed. Okay. Amanda is, what, 5 '2", 120 pounds,

00:37:04.030 --> 00:37:08.190
and she is just a kick -ass woman who doesn't

00:37:08.190 --> 00:37:11.130
put up with shit, does her and her husband do

00:37:11.130 --> 00:37:14.090
everything themselves. Do you guys want some

00:37:14.090 --> 00:37:17.530
of these? Yeah. Y 'all first. You've got like

00:37:17.530 --> 00:37:20.469
a gallon of drinks in front of you. I know. Which

00:37:20.469 --> 00:37:22.349
one's this? You're not driving, though. This

00:37:22.349 --> 00:37:26.059
is the Swift. Single malt Texas whiskey, yeah.

00:37:26.159 --> 00:37:27.760
Yeah, so this one's going to be their original.

00:37:27.920 --> 00:37:30.059
So this is their Oloroso. So this one will spend

00:37:30.059 --> 00:37:33.940
one year in a once -used bourbon cask. And they're

00:37:33.940 --> 00:37:36.940
not specific. Sometimes it is Heaven Hill. Sometimes

00:37:36.940 --> 00:37:40.199
it's Bartstown, Old Fitzgerald. It can be a matter

00:37:40.199 --> 00:37:43.019
of things that they have. So this particular

00:37:43.019 --> 00:37:45.860
is the one year in bourbon and then one year

00:37:45.860 --> 00:37:48.960
in the Spanish Oloroso sherry cask. I smell butter.

00:37:49.460 --> 00:37:52.829
Yeah. Yeah, I noticed that for sure. Paul, you

00:37:52.829 --> 00:37:55.750
may not like that. I do smell butter, but it's

00:37:55.750 --> 00:37:58.469
not overwhelming. That's kind of an indication

00:37:58.469 --> 00:38:01.389
that it's fray or whatever it was. But it is

00:38:01.389 --> 00:38:06.449
an indication of some heavy wheat. I don't smell

00:38:06.449 --> 00:38:11.570
any wheat. Which one is this? Oloroso. What is

00:38:11.570 --> 00:38:14.670
it, though? Barley. Just barley and what? That's

00:38:14.670 --> 00:38:16.730
it. You know what's crazy? I get some tequila.

00:38:17.510 --> 00:38:23.170
Like a tequila smell. Sherry casks. Yeah. What

00:38:23.170 --> 00:38:26.710
the hell is it? Oloroso. Oloroso. God bless it.

00:38:26.789 --> 00:38:29.369
You know, it pains me. I'm going to have to accept

00:38:29.369 --> 00:38:32.869
it. I need fucking glasses. You said this for

00:38:32.869 --> 00:38:35.489
like three years. I know. And it's painful. And

00:38:35.489 --> 00:38:37.309
three years ago you said, I'm going to have to

00:38:37.309 --> 00:38:41.570
accept this. Pull up the podcast. Yes, it's on

00:38:41.570 --> 00:38:44.090
record. Yeah, it's on record. Yeah, I had to

00:38:44.090 --> 00:38:46.250
get glasses at age 40. And here's what I love,

00:38:46.409 --> 00:38:48.650
and I think Victoria can talk more about this,

00:38:48.690 --> 00:38:51.449
but she is kind of really bridging that gap from

00:38:51.449 --> 00:38:53.320
the... People who are very interested in whiskey,

00:38:53.500 --> 00:38:57.360
but then also have fun with it. Yeah. Just have

00:38:57.360 --> 00:38:58.699
fun with it. Because it's different. Exactly.

00:38:58.880 --> 00:39:01.500
It's something people wouldn't normally be exposed

00:39:01.500 --> 00:39:04.559
to. Right. So this one is, I gotta tell you,

00:39:04.599 --> 00:39:10.219
it's very inviting because it's easy to run into

00:39:10.219 --> 00:39:13.000
the palate. I can immediately dive in and take

00:39:13.000 --> 00:39:16.800
another pull off it. I think the proof is some

00:39:16.800 --> 00:39:18.239
of that for you. I mean, you're used to the higher

00:39:18.239 --> 00:39:20.719
proofs. Oh, yeah. Dude, I could stick a straw

00:39:20.719 --> 00:39:22.480
on this and go to town. That's kind of problematic.

00:39:22.500 --> 00:39:24.519
How sad is that? I think that's the point. When

00:39:24.519 --> 00:39:26.219
you're used to the higher proofs, when you get

00:39:26.219 --> 00:39:27.780
an 86, I don't think there's anything wrong with

00:39:27.780 --> 00:39:30.079
that. It's just easy to drink. It's extremely

00:39:30.079 --> 00:39:31.579
easy to drink when you're used to the higher

00:39:31.579 --> 00:39:34.739
proof. And this is tasty. Oh, wow. And this kind

00:39:34.739 --> 00:39:37.059
of mimics scotch, so it's kind of like the same

00:39:37.059 --> 00:39:41.179
flavor experience that you get when you have

00:39:41.179 --> 00:39:45.030
a real mild scotch. It's got a very floral, perfume

00:39:45.030 --> 00:39:50.969
-esque kind of, what is the, smell, taste, whatever.

00:39:51.610 --> 00:39:55.000
There's your favorite note up there, anise. Anise?

00:39:55.000 --> 00:39:57.360
I was thinking stone fruit. I cannot believe

00:39:57.360 --> 00:40:00.059
that's actually in there. You and your anise.

00:40:00.059 --> 00:40:02.559
Hey, man, it does have that black licorice anise

00:40:02.559 --> 00:40:05.659
kind of a slam on it. I'm trying to dig. What

00:40:05.659 --> 00:40:09.760
does pollen smell like? Yes, it does. Kind of

00:40:09.760 --> 00:40:13.079
like honey, kind of like flowery. It's a floral

00:40:13.079 --> 00:40:16.000
kind of descent, you know? Just smell your car

00:40:16.000 --> 00:40:19.260
when it's covered. No. No, when it's covered

00:40:19.260 --> 00:40:21.300
on top of the car, you know, the pollen's all

00:40:21.300 --> 00:40:24.900
over. Just do a line off the hood. I also get

00:40:24.900 --> 00:40:27.579
the honey out of this as well. Yeah. You know

00:40:27.579 --> 00:40:32.000
what's interesting? So it starts to drink. Very

00:40:32.000 --> 00:40:36.119
short, starts to drink like a scotch. But scotch

00:40:36.119 --> 00:40:41.440
to me has like an obnoxious fullness. It fills

00:40:41.440 --> 00:40:43.760
your whole mouth, your whole tongue. And if you

00:40:43.760 --> 00:40:47.739
don't love scotch, it can be like, ugh. Off -putting.

00:40:47.739 --> 00:40:50.159
It's everywhere. I can tell you, I like this.

00:40:50.340 --> 00:40:54.369
But this. is nowhere near, it's like light, like

00:40:54.369 --> 00:40:57.409
you were saying. It has no fullness but the taste.

00:40:57.630 --> 00:41:00.030
I could get shit -faced on this. Like you said,

00:41:00.030 --> 00:41:01.949
you guys, you drink a lot of higher proof, but

00:41:01.949 --> 00:41:04.530
for the people like me or anybody coming into

00:41:04.530 --> 00:41:06.809
the brown spirits category is like, where do

00:41:06.809 --> 00:41:09.329
I want to start? This is a good introductory

00:41:09.329 --> 00:41:12.429
of starting. It goes beyond that a little bit.

00:41:12.469 --> 00:41:14.809
I think it is a good introductory, but I think

00:41:14.809 --> 00:41:17.230
that even, look, I'm enjoying it right now, so

00:41:17.230 --> 00:41:20.170
I would say even up to me, this is a single malt.

00:41:20.619 --> 00:41:23.380
And being what the American Single Mall is introduced,

00:41:23.679 --> 00:41:26.820
what a great representation. Oh, beautiful. I'm

00:41:26.820 --> 00:41:28.539
glad you joined us. It really is. Plus, Texas,

00:41:28.699 --> 00:41:32.280
God bless. That's right. And again, NVU, we partner

00:41:32.280 --> 00:41:35.809
with... really good hearted people. And that's

00:41:35.809 --> 00:41:37.530
what she is. And she's not pretentious. They're

00:41:37.530 --> 00:41:40.210
not, they're like, she comes up with some of

00:41:40.210 --> 00:41:43.150
the best stuff to, to mix it with. The other

00:41:43.150 --> 00:41:44.969
day we had the Whoppers, you know, those chocolate

00:41:44.969 --> 00:41:48.409
malt balls. And if you snack on that while you're

00:41:48.409 --> 00:41:51.630
sipping that, it just makes the whiskey so creamy.

00:41:52.269 --> 00:41:56.500
We did an event and. Women who don't like whiskey

00:41:56.500 --> 00:41:58.260
were like, I'm buying a bottle of this and I'm

00:41:58.260 --> 00:42:00.239
getting some candy and I'm going to sit there

00:42:00.239 --> 00:42:02.800
and snack. I'm like, it's beautiful. And that's

00:42:02.800 --> 00:42:05.519
the point of enjoying something that you're proud

00:42:05.519 --> 00:42:07.880
of. It's like anybody can enjoy it whether you're...

00:42:07.880 --> 00:42:09.900
I'm kind of curious where they came up with the

00:42:09.900 --> 00:42:12.119
concept of developing a single malt. I mean,

00:42:12.179 --> 00:42:14.940
were they people that... I mean, who else does

00:42:14.940 --> 00:42:17.619
that in Texas? Balcones? And who else does a

00:42:17.619 --> 00:42:20.440
single malt in Texas? I think Balcones was kind

00:42:20.440 --> 00:42:23.159
of the original, but they... They love scotch.

00:42:23.199 --> 00:42:25.340
So for them, they wanted to create something

00:42:25.340 --> 00:42:27.599
that was unique and something that they would

00:42:27.599 --> 00:42:29.079
enjoy. Yeah, well, they hit a home run. I mean,

00:42:29.099 --> 00:42:31.820
I would encourage them to try to see what they

00:42:31.820 --> 00:42:34.079
could do to beef up the proof on it. But outside

00:42:34.079 --> 00:42:36.420
of that. It's coming. It's coming. God bless.

00:42:36.559 --> 00:42:39.579
There you go. This is so smooth, though. I think

00:42:39.579 --> 00:42:42.039
the word you said, creamy, even without the balls.

00:42:45.360 --> 00:42:47.400
I can't think of the damn. Malt balls. Malt balls,

00:42:47.460 --> 00:42:50.119
yeah. Oh, I was like, okay. The creamy balls.

00:42:50.340 --> 00:42:52.380
I mean, what are you getting at there, buddy?

00:42:52.440 --> 00:42:54.280
Those aren't moth balls. Those aren't sweaty

00:42:54.280 --> 00:42:59.699
balls. Jesus. But it coats your tongue, and when

00:42:59.699 --> 00:43:02.039
you said cream, I was like, yes, I can get that

00:43:02.039 --> 00:43:04.260
if you're drinking a nice milk or a nice heavy

00:43:04.260 --> 00:43:06.179
cream drink or something like that. Yeah, but

00:43:06.179 --> 00:43:08.480
it's not obnoxious. It's such a light coating

00:43:08.480 --> 00:43:10.880
on the tongue. I don't know how to explain that

00:43:10.880 --> 00:43:13.800
because I'm not a huge scotch fan, but there

00:43:13.800 --> 00:43:17.980
is something. lighter about this. Good. So this

00:43:17.980 --> 00:43:20.260
is excellent. Well, I'm glad you enjoyed it.

00:43:20.280 --> 00:43:23.320
Yeah. She's been around for a while and then

00:43:23.320 --> 00:43:26.820
she's kind of like relaunching and reintroducing

00:43:26.820 --> 00:43:29.199
it back into the market. So we're going to get

00:43:29.199 --> 00:43:33.000
a lot of new single malt American whiskey drinkers

00:43:33.000 --> 00:43:37.320
or Texas drinkers. And even the ones that you

00:43:37.320 --> 00:43:39.079
got, like you guys are experienced, you're still

00:43:39.079 --> 00:43:42.500
enjoying it. So I think we have two types of

00:43:42.500 --> 00:43:45.840
clientele here. Well, and, On paper, she's our

00:43:45.840 --> 00:43:48.539
biggest client. She was in every total in the

00:43:48.539 --> 00:43:51.300
country. And she had a really good deal with

00:43:51.300 --> 00:43:53.480
them. She's kind of like Victoria said, she's

00:43:53.480 --> 00:43:56.900
reinventing herself. But it's just relaunching

00:43:56.900 --> 00:44:00.019
it, reimagining it, kind of giving it another

00:44:00.019 --> 00:44:02.619
kickstart. And Swift is their last name. So it's

00:44:02.619 --> 00:44:05.460
Nick and Amanda Swift. Yes. Nice. So it reminds

00:44:05.460 --> 00:44:08.800
me, I went to this. andalusia whiskey company

00:44:08.800 --> 00:44:11.519
in blanco oh yeah and they're real small and

00:44:11.519 --> 00:44:15.000
you just go up and do do samples and it reminds

00:44:15.000 --> 00:44:17.400
me of what i sampled there right so they're in

00:44:17.400 --> 00:44:20.360
the same market i guess yeah uh but they're they're

00:44:20.360 --> 00:44:22.539
really tasty too and they have different i like

00:44:22.539 --> 00:44:26.340
andalusia yeah they do a good job yeah uh i think

00:44:26.340 --> 00:44:28.500
we did that last year as we went up and down

00:44:28.500 --> 00:44:30.920
281 to get to all the distilleries up and down

00:44:30.920 --> 00:44:36.260
there so uh so this one's gonna be that so here's

00:44:37.420 --> 00:44:40.179
Chuck's like, I said, Chuck, you want a load

00:44:40.179 --> 00:44:43.659
of this? He's like, oh. So you know how in your

00:44:43.659 --> 00:44:47.739
collection to have something for every friend

00:44:47.739 --> 00:44:50.360
that you have, right? You've got your whiskey

00:44:50.360 --> 00:44:55.079
drinker. You've got your tequila. I usually don't

00:44:55.079 --> 00:44:58.099
buy any scotch whatsoever because I'm not a scotch

00:44:58.099 --> 00:45:02.679
fan. But knowing that I have scotch friends and

00:45:02.679 --> 00:45:05.380
something that I would drink with them, this

00:45:05.380 --> 00:45:07.289
would be fantastic. This would be what I would

00:45:07.289 --> 00:45:08.869
do. So they would love the single malt Texas

00:45:08.869 --> 00:45:10.849
whiskey. I think they would. What's the price

00:45:10.849 --> 00:45:13.150
point on this? You're probably looking at high

00:45:13.150 --> 00:45:16.429
40s. I know it on here. That's very doable. Somewhere

00:45:16.429 --> 00:45:19.989
it's at $41 .99. The kind of total's got it for

00:45:19.989 --> 00:45:23.809
$45, $48. We're working on that right now to

00:45:23.809 --> 00:45:25.710
kind of find that sweet spot, but we're going

00:45:25.710 --> 00:45:29.030
to probably be $48 .99. All right. That's kind

00:45:29.030 --> 00:45:32.360
of the goal. Yeah. Okay. All right. So we have

00:45:32.360 --> 00:45:34.579
a second pour now. We do. So she does this the

00:45:34.579 --> 00:45:38.920
exact same way on the three ingredients, one

00:45:38.920 --> 00:45:41.880
year next bourbon cask, except the finish here

00:45:41.880 --> 00:45:45.860
is a year in French sautern, wine sautern cask.

00:45:45.860 --> 00:45:50.800
What is this sautern cask? It's a white wine.

00:45:51.019 --> 00:45:55.000
White wine. Okay. So I have not tasted it yet.

00:45:55.039 --> 00:45:58.239
I'm kind of curious. I think that's going to

00:45:58.239 --> 00:46:01.750
go. It's going to pair very well with a Chardonnay.

00:46:02.550 --> 00:46:04.690
Is that what you just said? Well, it's a white

00:46:04.690 --> 00:46:06.869
wine. It's a white wine. So it's a sweeter white

00:46:06.869 --> 00:46:09.969
wine. Okay. So are we expecting a huge difference

00:46:09.969 --> 00:46:13.179
between these two? I'm curious. I'm curious on

00:46:13.179 --> 00:46:16.039
what you think. I have my favorite, and I want

00:46:16.039 --> 00:46:17.880
to see what your palate says. I think that the

00:46:17.880 --> 00:46:21.159
nose is definitely different. I don't pick up

00:46:21.159 --> 00:46:22.840
the butter like I do on the other one. It's a

00:46:22.840 --> 00:46:25.420
lighter nose. Oh, I could smell. I could totally

00:46:25.420 --> 00:46:28.900
smell Pinot Grigio or Chardonnay or something

00:46:28.900 --> 00:46:33.139
like that. It's much lighter and smoother and

00:46:33.139 --> 00:46:36.920
easier to drink. Right. Crushable, as we like

00:46:36.920 --> 00:46:39.960
to say. It's actually stronger. Do you think?

00:46:40.219 --> 00:46:43.400
Oh, hey, now. It didn't jump. It's not that stronger.

00:46:43.559 --> 00:46:46.820
But it's like one or two percent proof stronger

00:46:46.820 --> 00:46:50.639
than the prior one. Correct. So this one actually

00:46:50.639 --> 00:46:54.519
has a richer finish than the first one. I agree.

00:46:54.539 --> 00:46:56.699
I actually prefer this one. I agree. I think

00:46:56.699 --> 00:46:58.659
the finish lasts a little bit longer. Yes. On

00:46:58.659 --> 00:47:01.960
this one? Yes. Yeah, the first one is a little

00:47:01.960 --> 00:47:06.800
bit sweeter. I think the malt balls is a great

00:47:06.800 --> 00:47:09.860
tie -in because it kind of, Makes it kind of

00:47:09.860 --> 00:47:13.659
a dessert. This one, I agree. This one's good.

00:47:13.739 --> 00:47:16.840
I like this one better. So, okay. She always

00:47:16.840 --> 00:47:19.400
says, are you a sweeter or salty type of person?

00:47:19.599 --> 00:47:23.500
So, I love, obviously, the sherry one. I love

00:47:23.500 --> 00:47:26.679
drinking that one. But we actually did the candy

00:47:26.679 --> 00:47:29.340
one with the salt turn. We did. Because it's

00:47:29.340 --> 00:47:31.989
a little bit hot, you know. For people, it's

00:47:31.989 --> 00:47:33.650
like, oh, maybe it's a little bit too harsh or

00:47:33.650 --> 00:47:35.150
whatever, and then you put that in and it just

00:47:35.150 --> 00:47:37.590
melts all together. But I've done it with both,

00:47:37.650 --> 00:47:39.730
and I think they're great with both, but it really

00:47:39.730 --> 00:47:41.869
pairs very well with actually the salt turn.

00:47:42.170 --> 00:47:46.130
Correct. All right, so what's the service where

00:47:46.130 --> 00:47:47.949
they go get food and bring it back? Can they

00:47:47.949 --> 00:47:49.769
bring some malt balls for us? We're going to

00:47:49.769 --> 00:47:54.840
have to get some Whoppers. But we were at an

00:47:54.840 --> 00:47:57.019
event. We also made a pumpkin old -fashioned

00:47:57.019 --> 00:47:59.460
with the sherry, and it was just a hit, too,

00:47:59.559 --> 00:48:01.719
as well. That sounds wonderful. And Amanda, her

00:48:01.719 --> 00:48:04.699
cocktail deck that she has created for us to

00:48:04.699 --> 00:48:09.039
use is 80 cocktails that she makes herself. She

00:48:09.039 --> 00:48:14.059
loves baking, cocktails, whiskey, and desserts.

00:48:14.139 --> 00:48:17.480
Yeah, go look them up on Instagram, Swift. She

00:48:17.480 --> 00:48:20.300
does some funny videos. So what exactly is on

00:48:20.300 --> 00:48:24.380
Instagram? Is it Swift Single Bowl? Swift. Distillery,

00:48:24.480 --> 00:48:27.860
I think. Let me check. Holy shit. Mom Donnie

00:48:27.860 --> 00:48:29.960
wins the fucking New York City. We knew that.

00:48:30.059 --> 00:48:32.639
He was polling double digits for weeks. God bless

00:48:32.639 --> 00:48:35.380
it. I was hoping not. You know what? They get

00:48:35.380 --> 00:48:38.119
what they vote for. Yep. We'll see what happens.

00:48:38.199 --> 00:48:40.480
You know what they're predicting? A massive exodus.

00:48:40.739 --> 00:48:42.880
Yes. Well, that's what they want. Massive. They

00:48:42.880 --> 00:48:45.139
want new folk to come in. Wink, wink. It's a

00:48:45.139 --> 00:48:47.659
shame. I really love New York. I really used

00:48:47.659 --> 00:48:50.480
to. I hadn't been there forever. We'll go now

00:48:50.480 --> 00:48:53.219
before it. So it's Swift Distillery. So check

00:48:53.219 --> 00:48:55.519
out on Instagram. It's Swift Distillery. There

00:48:55.519 --> 00:48:58.539
we go. Oh, I've seen some videos that you guys

00:48:58.539 --> 00:49:01.639
popped up of her. Okay. Oh, yeah. She's a young

00:49:01.639 --> 00:49:05.199
little whippersnapper. She is. And we get along

00:49:05.199 --> 00:49:09.909
just fine. Everything about her, I love it. Again,

00:49:10.070 --> 00:49:12.050
she doesn't take herself too seriously. I love

00:49:12.050 --> 00:49:13.389
when she goes, oh, yeah. Does she buy herself

00:49:13.389 --> 00:49:16.769
doing this? Well, no. Her husband, Nick, it's

00:49:16.769 --> 00:49:19.190
just them two making it. That's it. And we've

00:49:19.190 --> 00:49:21.710
been to the distillery. And I'm like, how in

00:49:21.710 --> 00:49:24.489
the world are you guys? They're operating the

00:49:24.489 --> 00:49:28.190
cranes. They're doing all this. I think they're

00:49:28.190 --> 00:49:29.909
like, oh, I think we should hire one person to

00:49:29.909 --> 00:49:32.050
help her. I'm like. Yeah, this is it. That's

00:49:32.050 --> 00:49:36.570
their employee. Yeah. So. That's the husband.

00:49:36.610 --> 00:49:38.809
That's Nick, right? That's Nick, yeah. So you

00:49:38.809 --> 00:49:41.909
have Nick, Amanda, and the forklift. And that's

00:49:41.909 --> 00:49:43.610
what helps lift the barrels. Well, what's the

00:49:43.610 --> 00:49:48.849
name of the forklift? Not sure. And then here's

00:49:48.849 --> 00:49:51.630
the bottling. So here they have, they're writing

00:49:51.630 --> 00:49:53.849
the... Yeah, those are neighbors, I think, or

00:49:53.849 --> 00:49:56.130
family or neighbors. They're hand labeling. Yeah,

00:49:56.250 --> 00:49:59.289
1845 is the same way. They're hand labeling.

00:49:59.769 --> 00:50:02.789
And that's their biggest struggle, is the labeling

00:50:02.789 --> 00:50:05.489
in their process. It's so consuming and they

00:50:05.489 --> 00:50:08.530
don't have the bottling and the labeling. Oh,

00:50:08.590 --> 00:50:10.909
yes. Right. And I wonder if that's what they're

00:50:10.909 --> 00:50:14.369
struggling with because that's very time consuming.

00:50:14.590 --> 00:50:18.389
It's one of those like wonderful struggles. I

00:50:18.389 --> 00:50:20.570
mean, to be able to produce your product like

00:50:20.570 --> 00:50:23.570
that. Yeah. They do have a great product. I endorse

00:50:23.570 --> 00:50:26.510
it. I mean, dudes like us approved. Really? Absolutely.

00:50:26.610 --> 00:50:29.500
I mean, I would not. I mean, this doesn't even

00:50:29.500 --> 00:50:31.539
get kicked out of the house, let alone the bed,

00:50:31.639 --> 00:50:33.980
you know? This is fantastic. I love that. What

00:50:33.980 --> 00:50:36.000
a compliment. Because I heard on one of y 'all's

00:50:36.000 --> 00:50:38.360
podcasts that you try not to rate while a guest

00:50:38.360 --> 00:50:40.860
is here, at least. Well, it depends on what they're

00:50:40.860 --> 00:50:42.440
bringing to the table. I mean, you guys are a

00:50:42.440 --> 00:50:44.440
little bit different because you're not an actual

00:50:44.440 --> 00:50:47.179
distiller. So, you know, you're bringing in some

00:50:47.179 --> 00:50:48.840
different products. And you're right. We don't

00:50:48.840 --> 00:50:51.699
because I think it's rude. But this is different.

00:50:51.880 --> 00:50:55.320
Yes. I love it. We don't. If we had Cooperstown

00:50:55.320 --> 00:50:57.079
here, Sean would have been like, that's a seven.

00:50:57.420 --> 00:51:00.300
I think this is a nine -nine. We've never had

00:51:00.300 --> 00:51:01.900
anything like this. This shit sucks. I threw

00:51:01.900 --> 00:51:06.860
it on the ground. We don't have a lot of single

00:51:06.860 --> 00:51:11.519
malts that we've tried. The rare characters,

00:51:11.699 --> 00:51:15.059
which are... extremely well they're 13 we have

00:51:15.059 --> 00:51:17.860
a 13 year out there beautiful stuff i don't know

00:51:17.860 --> 00:51:19.340
if you guys heard a rare character have you not

00:51:19.340 --> 00:51:21.440
yet so look if you want a home run i thought

00:51:21.440 --> 00:51:24.699
they're blends if you no they're not both well

00:51:24.699 --> 00:51:27.280
they may have a blend but the majority of them

00:51:27.280 --> 00:51:30.500
are so these these rare character the brand they

00:51:30.500 --> 00:51:33.239
basically procure barrels uh they go around the

00:51:33.239 --> 00:51:35.500
country and they find something they want at

00:51:35.500 --> 00:51:37.920
these rare distilleries rare barrels right that

00:51:37.920 --> 00:51:40.440
and they're like one or two i want that batch

00:51:40.440 --> 00:51:43.480
and they buy a batch And then they sell it. And

00:51:43.480 --> 00:51:46.780
because it is absolutely... Look at these. These

00:51:46.780 --> 00:51:50.480
guys are terrific. And they're between 150...

00:51:50.480 --> 00:51:53.519
Actually, I picked up a bottle for 105, that

00:51:53.519 --> 00:51:56.019
one that we have at the house. We haven't tried

00:51:56.019 --> 00:51:57.719
it yet here, but you've tried it at my house.

00:51:57.920 --> 00:52:01.179
Rare character is highly desirable. And a lot

00:52:01.179 --> 00:52:03.760
of those are single malts. Fan -frackentastic.

00:52:04.320 --> 00:52:05.800
Fan -frackentastic. There's a couple out there.

00:52:06.039 --> 00:52:10.719
Yeah, smart. It's... They're very clever. If

00:52:10.719 --> 00:52:14.619
we post something on Instagram, they immediately

00:52:14.619 --> 00:52:18.719
repost it. That's big. If I tag a rare character,

00:52:18.880 --> 00:52:21.639
because we do our setup on every single post

00:52:21.639 --> 00:52:24.119
that we do, and they always repost it, and they

00:52:24.119 --> 00:52:26.559
always send something nice, a little comment.

00:52:26.679 --> 00:52:28.940
I think that's super good. But the product itself

00:52:28.940 --> 00:52:33.019
is terrific. Right. Like this, Swift, single

00:52:33.019 --> 00:52:34.739
malt. This is terrific. It really is. Have you

00:52:34.739 --> 00:52:39.159
ever had Delbach? Del... I think it's Delbec,

00:52:39.500 --> 00:52:42.340
Santa Fe, or New Mexico. I've not had that one

00:52:42.340 --> 00:52:44.739
yet. So they have one that I had at Liquor Library,

00:52:45.000 --> 00:52:48.500
and they have a good single malt. Where's this

00:52:48.500 --> 00:52:51.860
Liquor Library? Fort Worth. Beautiful selection.

00:52:52.320 --> 00:52:55.119
And for a bourbon or a mezcal fan? Delbec, yeah.

00:52:55.539 --> 00:52:58.139
Because no one has told us about this. That's

00:52:58.139 --> 00:53:01.119
why we don't know about it. So here's my boy.

00:53:01.519 --> 00:53:03.940
Yeah, he's such a good guy, and he does barrel

00:53:03.940 --> 00:53:06.500
picks, but he handpicks everything, and it's...

00:53:06.679 --> 00:53:09.659
He's got a great selection, especially browns

00:53:09.659 --> 00:53:13.920
and agaves. Oh, and gins, though. He turned us

00:53:13.920 --> 00:53:18.420
on to some beautiful gins. I love gin. By the

00:53:18.420 --> 00:53:20.179
way, if there's any gin brands out there, we

00:53:20.179 --> 00:53:22.980
are looking for gin. Yes. Like a traditional

00:53:22.980 --> 00:53:25.739
bee feeders? I mean, do they even make? gin in

00:53:25.739 --> 00:53:29.800
texas do they have a texas juniper berry uh farm

00:53:29.800 --> 00:53:33.099
well i take that back we do have a gin uh coastal

00:53:33.099 --> 00:53:35.000
bend distilling who makes live oak also makes

00:53:35.000 --> 00:53:37.539
lucky star gin but the main focus is live oak

00:53:37.539 --> 00:53:40.559
but um it's always good to have a different style

00:53:40.559 --> 00:53:43.460
of gin yeah lucky star is really good gin for

00:53:43.460 --> 00:53:46.719
the non -drinker style What are you talking about?

00:53:46.719 --> 00:53:48.960
It's for the non -gin drinker. Do you guys drink

00:53:48.960 --> 00:53:51.400
gin? Is that like flavored vodka? No. Is that

00:53:51.400 --> 00:53:52.900
what you're getting at? No, I'm not a fan of

00:53:52.900 --> 00:53:55.940
gin. I've had different ones. The juniper kind

00:53:55.940 --> 00:53:58.880
of gets me. It depends on what they're steeping

00:53:58.880 --> 00:54:02.239
it, what botanicals they're making. That's the

00:54:02.239 --> 00:54:04.260
word I was looking for. Botanicals, yeah. I tried

00:54:04.260 --> 00:54:06.360
so hard to think of that word. There's some beautiful

00:54:06.360 --> 00:54:10.139
Spanish gins, Mexican gins, and I absolutely

00:54:10.139 --> 00:54:13.039
love them. A good gin, stop it. There's the one

00:54:13.039 --> 00:54:16.449
gin that I do like. in Hawaii last December.

00:54:16.590 --> 00:54:19.469
And there's, you know, the Oceans Vodka? Yeah.

00:54:20.030 --> 00:54:22.989
We were on their, it was almost like a big plantation

00:54:22.989 --> 00:54:24.829
or farm where their distillery was. And they

00:54:24.829 --> 00:54:28.050
make a gin. And that was, I like that one. That

00:54:28.050 --> 00:54:30.050
was really, really, really, really good. Yeah.

00:54:30.889 --> 00:54:34.969
I tried gin once 35 years ago when I went to

00:54:34.969 --> 00:54:37.590
a party. It did not go well. It was a gin and

00:54:37.590 --> 00:54:40.389
tonic. I had just eaten Whataburger. And they

00:54:40.389 --> 00:54:42.369
were like, hey, welcome to the party here. And

00:54:42.369 --> 00:54:43.630
they handed me a gin and tonic. And I was like,

00:54:43.650 --> 00:54:45.769
what is this? And I was like, oh, what the hell?

00:54:45.789 --> 00:54:48.130
I drank it. And then I lost my water bottle.

00:54:48.750 --> 00:54:52.849
That was horrible. I lost my $7. Give gin another

00:54:52.849 --> 00:54:57.789
chance. It was 35 years ago. I love gin. I could

00:54:57.789 --> 00:55:00.329
drink gin straight. And I'll tell you, this is

00:55:00.329 --> 00:55:02.690
weird. And you're going to laugh at me. But you

00:55:02.690 --> 00:55:04.230
all are going to laugh at me. When we went to

00:55:04.230 --> 00:55:07.940
Colorado. Yes. Sitting all cozy in your cabin.

00:55:08.059 --> 00:55:09.940
Jeff had, we had to take Jeff home. He couldn't

00:55:09.940 --> 00:55:12.519
make it. He couldn't stay. And so it's you and

00:55:12.519 --> 00:55:16.599
I. And what am I drinking? Tea. I'm drinking

00:55:16.599 --> 00:55:19.500
hot tea and bourbon. All right. And he's like,

00:55:19.579 --> 00:55:23.800
oh my God, this is the best drink ever. I love

00:55:23.800 --> 00:55:31.159
gin and hot water. Gross. Lemon, lime, anything?

00:55:31.179 --> 00:55:35.239
No. Oh. Yeah. That's a new one. He's our special

00:55:35.239 --> 00:55:38.000
friend. I am. I'll tell you, there is nothing.

00:55:38.480 --> 00:55:39.739
That's not a hot toddy, is it? What's a hot toddy?

00:55:39.760 --> 00:55:42.559
No. Well, I mean, I don't know. I guess they

00:55:42.559 --> 00:55:45.139
mix it with a couple other things, but I love

00:55:45.139 --> 00:55:48.659
gin when it's served hot. It just opens up some

00:55:48.659 --> 00:55:52.320
notes that I'm not normally abreast to. I mean,

00:55:52.340 --> 00:55:54.860
it's just, is that the right word? But it opens

00:55:54.860 --> 00:55:58.349
it up more. And I like it because the gin does

00:55:58.349 --> 00:55:59.969
something to the throat, and I normally would

00:55:59.969 --> 00:56:02.869
do that when I have a sore throat or I've got

00:56:02.869 --> 00:56:05.809
something going on upstairs in the congestion

00:56:05.809 --> 00:56:10.110
area that I need to correct. It's easy, and plus

00:56:10.110 --> 00:56:13.469
it makes you feel good. All right, so if I were

00:56:13.469 --> 00:56:16.530
to try gin again? I wouldn't recommend the hot

00:56:16.530 --> 00:56:19.550
water. That was kind of a no -brainer for me.

00:56:21.400 --> 00:56:24.360
You said, oh, you tried a gin. That was amazing.

00:56:24.380 --> 00:56:27.380
I want you to go. If you're in Fort Worth, go

00:56:27.380 --> 00:56:32.019
to Liquor Library and have Daniel. take you through

00:56:32.019 --> 00:56:35.420
his gin selection because he introduced us to

00:56:35.420 --> 00:56:37.440
some gins and I'm just like, first of all, gin

00:56:37.440 --> 00:56:41.139
bottles are so beautiful. I'm with you on that.

00:56:41.199 --> 00:56:43.559
We're thinking like the Tangeray, the Beefeater,

00:56:43.599 --> 00:56:47.699
that's a dry London style gin. I'm talking about

00:56:47.699 --> 00:56:50.639
there's some gins that are just citrus forward.

00:56:50.960 --> 00:56:52.380
That's what I was trying to pull out of you.

00:56:52.659 --> 00:56:56.070
It's very, I don't know, they're just... Is there

00:56:56.070 --> 00:56:58.469
just like a fruit element to it? It depends on

00:56:58.469 --> 00:57:01.690
the gin. Is there like an orange -based gin?

00:57:01.909 --> 00:57:04.550
It depends. And they could be with any type of

00:57:04.550 --> 00:57:07.230
flower petals. They can be with fruits. They

00:57:07.230 --> 00:57:10.510
can be with all sorts of things. And, you know,

00:57:10.570 --> 00:57:13.630
the juniper is a component, but there's a lot

00:57:13.630 --> 00:57:16.230
that are not juniper -heavy, and they're different.

00:57:16.349 --> 00:57:18.389
Yeah, it's the juniper -heavy ones that I think

00:57:18.389 --> 00:57:19.949
I've had. They turn a lot of people off. That's

00:57:19.949 --> 00:57:24.250
not my palate at all, the juniper. It's the dryness

00:57:24.250 --> 00:57:27.940
that killed me. on the one time I had the gin.

00:57:27.940 --> 00:57:29.840
I'm curious of what you had. Or you could have

00:57:29.840 --> 00:57:31.500
had some... I think you probably had Beefeater.

00:57:31.639 --> 00:57:36.440
Probably. It was so dry. Was this with Mark?

00:57:37.619 --> 00:57:40.000
No, no, no. This was back in high school. Oh,

00:57:40.000 --> 00:57:42.059
no. You were probably having Taka or something.

00:57:42.179 --> 00:57:45.460
Taka gin. Probably. It was so dry. It sucked

00:57:45.460 --> 00:57:47.860
all the moisture out of my mouth and the Whataburger

00:57:47.860 --> 00:57:51.440
went with it. But, I mean, so... Okay, so there's

00:57:51.440 --> 00:57:54.670
floral ones. There's... Yeah, so... Obviously.

00:57:54.670 --> 00:57:57.210
Fruity. Fruity. I could do a fruity gin. I would

00:57:57.210 --> 00:58:00.349
say citrus forward. I want to say they're fruity.

00:58:01.369 --> 00:58:05.730
Great. Thanks. You agreed with Sean. Oh, Paul

00:58:05.730 --> 00:58:08.289
likes the fruity gin. We'll have to bring. We'll

00:58:08.289 --> 00:58:09.969
have to bring. On our next appearance, we'll

00:58:09.969 --> 00:58:12.829
bring you guys. Some gins. Okay. Some gins. That'd

00:58:12.829 --> 00:58:14.849
be fun. You know what? It's fun. It really is.

00:58:14.909 --> 00:58:17.449
That is way out of my radar. So that would be

00:58:17.449 --> 00:58:19.610
awesome. Mexican gins are really popular right

00:58:19.610 --> 00:58:21.730
now as well. Hold on. Oh, the Spanish gins are

00:58:21.730 --> 00:58:25.139
beautiful. They make. Gin in Mexico? They make

00:58:25.139 --> 00:58:26.860
a lot of gins in Mexico. They're making wine,

00:58:27.260 --> 00:58:29.659
whiskey. Whiskies are coming. So I understand

00:58:29.659 --> 00:58:33.039
they're not making tequila in Mexico. There's

00:58:33.039 --> 00:58:36.699
a little bit. I mean, probably 10 % of the tequilas

00:58:36.699 --> 00:58:38.920
that come out of Mexico aren't actually tequila.

00:58:38.920 --> 00:58:40.719
Is that what I'm understanding? Only the popular

00:58:40.719 --> 00:58:44.000
brands. Well, tequila really has to be made in

00:58:44.000 --> 00:58:46.639
Jalisco, right? Or Jalisco? There's seven different

00:58:46.639 --> 00:58:48.539
states it can actually officially be made from.

00:58:48.659 --> 00:58:52.360
But yeah, as long as it's 100 % agave. So that's

00:58:52.360 --> 00:58:55.880
the thing. It's not 100 % agave. He's got our

00:58:55.880 --> 00:59:00.760
little liquor Cliff Clavin. I think Mezcal is...

00:59:00.760 --> 00:59:02.860
It's like five things I know. Isn't it called

00:59:02.860 --> 00:59:06.349
Mezcal if it doesn't match those? Criteria? No,

00:59:06.429 --> 00:59:09.550
so mezcal comes from another seven, eight, excuse

00:59:09.550 --> 00:59:11.329
me, eight different regions, and it has to be

00:59:11.329 --> 00:59:14.710
made from a different species of agave. Tequila

00:59:14.710 --> 00:59:17.269
can only be made from blue webber. Right. No

00:59:17.269 --> 00:59:23.250
kidding. Now, is most mezcal smoky, smoked? It

00:59:23.250 --> 00:59:25.769
is because of the process. The process has to

00:59:25.769 --> 00:59:28.429
be cooked underground. Yeah, that's why, because

00:59:28.429 --> 00:59:31.349
when I was at the corporate, I had a team in

00:59:31.349 --> 00:59:33.610
Mexico City, and I go to Mexico City a lot, and

00:59:33.610 --> 00:59:37.210
we go out to dinner. to the little Mexican cafes,

00:59:37.369 --> 00:59:39.429
and they'd all get mezcal. Yeah. Right? They'd

00:59:39.429 --> 00:59:41.150
all get mezcal. And I was like, do you want one?

00:59:41.190 --> 00:59:43.849
I was like, let me taste yours. And I don't like

00:59:43.849 --> 00:59:46.730
that smoke. Right. So I was like, I passed, and

00:59:46.730 --> 00:59:48.150
I didn't like it. I didn't know if all mezcal

00:59:48.150 --> 00:59:51.090
was like that. There's a balance of smoke, and

00:59:51.090 --> 00:59:54.230
that's a key thing is that when introduced, there

00:59:54.230 --> 00:59:55.849
was a green bottle that was kind of the first

00:59:55.849 --> 00:59:58.550
mezcal in the U .S., and that was so heavily

00:59:58.550 --> 01:00:00.829
smoky. So either you love it or you hate it.

01:00:01.230 --> 01:00:03.730
But now people are making them more approachable,

01:00:03.750 --> 01:00:06.530
more fruit forward, more kind of. I remember

01:00:06.530 --> 01:00:09.630
in college, I thought it was mezcal. It was the

01:00:09.630 --> 01:00:11.849
bottle with the worm in the bottle. It was a

01:00:11.849 --> 01:00:14.690
novelty thing. What was that called? Mezcal.

01:00:16.249 --> 01:00:18.550
I just dug up an earthworm and shoved it in there.

01:00:18.710 --> 01:00:20.250
I was like, if you eat the worm, you're just

01:00:20.250 --> 01:00:22.909
going to see hallucinations. Did you eat the

01:00:22.909 --> 01:00:25.670
worm? No, I never had any of it. It was a great

01:00:25.670 --> 01:00:28.710
marketing. I wasn't a fan of it back then. Eat

01:00:28.710 --> 01:00:31.769
the worm, man. Jeff, he's downing it. God bless

01:00:31.769 --> 01:00:34.670
him. He's like, I'm scared. I'm scared. Mezcal

01:00:34.670 --> 01:00:36.369
is one of those things, too. You have to try

01:00:36.369 --> 01:00:37.989
different ones and you're like, oh, it's not

01:00:37.989 --> 01:00:40.210
that bad. I was anti -mezcal. You would have

01:00:40.210 --> 01:00:45.699
to. I hated mezcal. One of our second that we

01:00:45.699 --> 01:00:47.900
brought on was a mezcal, and he was like, hey,

01:00:47.900 --> 01:00:49.380
we're going to say yes. I'm like, no, we're not,

01:00:49.500 --> 01:00:51.320
because I don't want to sell a mezcal. So they

01:00:51.320 --> 01:00:53.920
sent us samples, and I was like, oh, it's actually

01:00:53.920 --> 01:00:56.139
not that bad. It's really good. And then you

01:00:56.139 --> 01:00:57.519
start to like - Why wouldn't you want to sell

01:00:57.519 --> 01:00:59.920
a mezcal? Because I thought that it was the green

01:00:59.920 --> 01:01:02.440
bottle that everybody starts with. I can't get

01:01:02.440 --> 01:01:05.320
behind that. With that burnt tire, very smoky.

01:01:05.800 --> 01:01:08.820
Yeah, you had emotional reality. Like my gin

01:01:08.820 --> 01:01:10.840
thing. And then I never wanted to drink a mezcal,

01:01:10.860 --> 01:01:14.159
and then I started to drink it. and taste different

01:01:14.159 --> 01:01:16.300
ones, and it's like it's over. I actually prefer

01:01:16.300 --> 01:01:19.239
mezcal over tequila now. I'll have to open myself

01:01:19.239 --> 01:01:22.079
up to some mezcals because, like I said, the

01:01:22.079 --> 01:01:24.260
ones they had down there, I didn't care for.

01:01:24.840 --> 01:01:26.960
But it may have been the heavily smoked ones.

01:01:27.219 --> 01:01:29.860
Yeah, you're not a big heavy smoke thing of any

01:01:29.860 --> 01:01:33.079
style, by the way. That's okay. People have their

01:01:33.079 --> 01:01:34.539
own preference. I wonder if that goes back to

01:01:34.539 --> 01:01:36.599
because my mother smoked my entire life in the

01:01:36.599 --> 01:01:40.340
house. It could be it. Seems to be ultra -sensitive

01:01:40.340 --> 01:01:42.619
now if I smell someone smoking. It's a hard time

01:01:42.619 --> 01:01:44.599
for me. I wonder if that has anything to do with

01:01:44.599 --> 01:01:46.380
it. You know, my mom and dad used to fart around

01:01:46.380 --> 01:01:48.119
the house all the time. Maybe that's why I'm

01:01:48.119 --> 01:01:49.780
so sensitive every time you do it around me.

01:01:50.239 --> 01:01:53.559
I think that's why you fart a lot is where you

01:01:53.559 --> 01:01:54.539
were going with that. Are we going to have time

01:01:54.539 --> 01:01:58.320
to do the Russell? Oh, way to give it away. They

01:01:58.320 --> 01:02:00.300
know what it is now. It doesn't matter. Look,

01:02:00.320 --> 01:02:03.039
I propose we just kind of pass out. Let's just

01:02:03.039 --> 01:02:06.159
kick that down. We'll do the Russell on the next

01:02:06.159 --> 01:02:08.800
one. And people will forget that we said it.

01:02:08.820 --> 01:02:11.179
Let's focus on the Swift Single Malt Texas Whiskey.

01:02:13.239 --> 01:02:19.000
I thought we did. On to the rustles. Welcome

01:02:19.000 --> 01:02:25.340
to the party, Sean. What is the gin? Do you already

01:02:25.340 --> 01:02:29.579
have that account? Or the fruity one you're talking

01:02:29.579 --> 01:02:33.369
about? Is that in the pipe coming down? It's

01:02:33.369 --> 01:02:36.190
on the pipe yet. We're still looking. We're looking

01:02:36.190 --> 01:02:38.889
to partner with a brand that's kind of unique

01:02:38.889 --> 01:02:41.909
and different like that. Or make our own. Or

01:02:41.909 --> 01:02:43.929
make our own. There we go. Is that like in a

01:02:43.929 --> 01:02:45.929
little barrel like you'd infuse it? The next

01:02:45.929 --> 01:02:50.030
evolution. So can we talk about how, what is

01:02:50.030 --> 01:02:53.429
gin? So gin is just a neutral grain spirits and

01:02:53.429 --> 01:02:55.650
then you basically are going to, it's technically

01:02:55.650 --> 01:02:59.650
the first flavored vodka. So it's neutral grain

01:02:59.650 --> 01:03:03.210
spirits and then they infuse. the different botanicals

01:03:03.210 --> 01:03:05.989
and obviously juniper being heavy you have cinnamon

01:03:05.989 --> 01:03:09.289
there's almond there's lemon peel orange peel

01:03:09.289 --> 01:03:11.690
there's i mean there's probably 50 different

01:03:11.690 --> 01:03:14.489
botanicals you're saying it is infused vodka

01:03:14.489 --> 01:03:16.389
they put like a big at the end of the day big

01:03:16.389 --> 01:03:18.650
tea bag just throw it in there that's what it

01:03:18.650 --> 01:03:22.170
is it is infused vodka my grandmother my dad's

01:03:22.170 --> 01:03:25.309
i was a huge gin fan i mean she drank london's

01:03:25.309 --> 01:03:28.719
gin and she drank that And then within that,

01:03:28.739 --> 01:03:30.760
you have the categories. You have different London

01:03:30.760 --> 01:03:34.019
dry gin, and you have navy strength gin. You

01:03:34.019 --> 01:03:37.340
have different styles of gin. No kidding. So

01:03:37.340 --> 01:03:40.219
how is that different than infused vodka versus

01:03:40.219 --> 01:03:43.320
infused gin? Because they're adding actual probably

01:03:43.320 --> 01:03:46.239
sugars or other outside components that are not

01:03:46.239 --> 01:03:49.940
natural. Because the steeping process takes time.

01:03:50.559 --> 01:03:54.039
Vodkas don't want time. They want fast. Get your

01:03:54.039 --> 01:03:57.400
stuff out. Yeah, it's like tea. It's got to sit

01:03:57.400 --> 01:04:01.739
there. That's 100 % right. It's a great reference.

01:04:02.980 --> 01:04:07.239
Interesting. I am willing to try. I'm a proponent

01:04:07.239 --> 01:04:10.599
for gin. I'm on board with it. A fruity gin.

01:04:11.739 --> 01:04:14.840
I already know the gin. First is the one we're

01:04:14.840 --> 01:04:17.199
going to start with. We'll go with there. We

01:04:17.199 --> 01:04:19.320
have a few options. We've got to get you guys

01:04:19.320 --> 01:04:22.340
back here into the Dallas region. Or at least

01:04:22.340 --> 01:04:26.650
let us know. If you're willing. I had a great

01:04:26.650 --> 01:04:28.829
time so far. I love it. All right. Well, we'll

01:04:28.829 --> 01:04:31.010
get you on the calendar. But even if you guys

01:04:31.010 --> 01:04:33.449
are, regardless whether we do the podcast or

01:04:33.449 --> 01:04:36.230
not, next time you guys are in town, I mean,

01:04:36.269 --> 01:04:37.590
I don't know if you guys are here ever on a Friday.

01:04:37.730 --> 01:04:41.309
I mean, really, that's kind of our day that we

01:04:41.309 --> 01:04:44.369
can actually get out and go do stuff. The wives

01:04:44.369 --> 01:04:46.030
let us go out. And we can meet you in Fort Worth.

01:04:46.530 --> 01:04:49.789
Yes. Wouldn't that be fun? Yeah. Yeah, we're

01:04:49.789 --> 01:04:52.389
here once a month. Regardless, two to three days.

01:04:52.449 --> 01:04:55.190
We're here at least once a month. We just got

01:04:55.190 --> 01:04:58.530
into, there's a Hilton right next to the Cowboy

01:04:58.530 --> 01:05:01.550
Stadium. Okay. And they're a new NVU signature

01:05:01.550 --> 01:05:03.730
account, so they have all of our products. Oh.

01:05:03.889 --> 01:05:06.409
And so we'll be doing some stuff with them, and

01:05:06.409 --> 01:05:08.510
there's some other things happening. Like I said,

01:05:08.590 --> 01:05:10.429
we're trying to create those all throughout the

01:05:10.429 --> 01:05:12.389
Dallas. Well, if you need an entourage, that's

01:05:12.389 --> 01:05:15.289
going to be an immediate party starter. Just

01:05:15.289 --> 01:05:18.650
invite us. We'll show up. We're excellent singers,

01:05:18.750 --> 01:05:21.230
excellent dancers. I heard the karaoke skills

01:05:21.230 --> 01:05:22.789
are pretty big in this room. They're killer.

01:05:23.010 --> 01:05:25.289
A little journey going, Paul will go off. Yeah,

01:05:25.289 --> 01:05:27.469
if you want to shut the party down, turn the

01:05:27.469 --> 01:05:30.869
mics on, game on. We have a good time. We really

01:05:30.869 --> 01:05:33.250
do. Actually, we really do have a good time whenever

01:05:33.250 --> 01:05:36.949
we do the karaoke stuff. Surprisingly, shockingly,

01:05:37.110 --> 01:05:40.210
we're actually not horrible. Well. Not horrible.

01:05:41.530 --> 01:05:43.469
Well, you recorded this that one time. You're

01:05:43.469 --> 01:05:46.429
like, yeah. That was 2 .30 in the morning, all

01:05:46.429 --> 01:05:49.030
right? That's right. That does not count. Yes.

01:05:49.130 --> 01:05:52.070
Until 1 .30, we sound pretty good. Yes. All right.

01:05:52.070 --> 01:05:56.190
We'll do this on the record. The Swift single

01:05:56.190 --> 01:06:00.699
malt, we're going to rate this. This is tough

01:06:00.699 --> 01:06:02.179
for me because I don't know how many we have

01:06:02.179 --> 01:06:05.219
gone. I would try to gauge you with other ones

01:06:05.219 --> 01:06:06.500
that are similar, but I don't have. But it's

01:06:06.500 --> 01:06:08.440
similar. It's 85 proof, so that's going to put

01:06:08.440 --> 01:06:10.019
it in the category. Yeah, I would not put this

01:06:10.019 --> 01:06:11.440
against rare characters. Rare characters is like

01:06:11.440 --> 01:06:13.780
130 -something proof. So it's a whole different

01:06:13.780 --> 01:06:15.860
animal. It's a different animal. I'm going to

01:06:15.860 --> 01:06:18.659
go with general enjoyment. I'm going to shoot

01:06:18.659 --> 01:06:25.760
right up to a 7 .2. Actually, I'll do a 7 .2

01:06:25.760 --> 01:06:28.519
for the sweeter one. And for the sherry cast

01:06:28.519 --> 01:06:32.380
and for the Chardonnay cast, I'll jump up to

01:06:32.380 --> 01:06:36.139
a 7 .5. Sauternes cast. Sauternes cast. Now,

01:06:36.139 --> 01:06:38.980
that means white wine. So it is a white wine.

01:06:39.360 --> 01:06:42.000
Okay. Just like Chardonnay? Yeah, that's what

01:06:42.000 --> 01:06:44.340
I'm trying to break it down. I mean, white wine.

01:06:44.460 --> 01:06:46.739
What is specifically a white wine? Is it a specific

01:06:46.739 --> 01:06:49.440
grape? So that's the variety. Yeah. Okay. So

01:06:49.440 --> 01:06:51.519
it's just white wine grape? It's different from

01:06:51.519 --> 01:06:53.420
Chardonnay grape? Yes. It's a different grape.

01:06:53.500 --> 01:06:56.539
Just like wheat, corn, barley, rye. I never knew

01:06:56.539 --> 01:06:58.780
that. Yep. I thought that Chardonnay was a white

01:06:58.780 --> 01:07:02.199
grape. It is. It is. But it's just one specific

01:07:02.199 --> 01:07:04.969
and then you have different varietals. Salt Tarn

01:07:04.969 --> 01:07:06.929
is just another varietal. I am not that. We did

01:07:06.929 --> 01:07:08.989
have a sommelier, Miss Heather Liner, that was

01:07:08.989 --> 01:07:12.769
on. We did. That was like that podcast went off

01:07:12.769 --> 01:07:15.170
the rails because she introduced a lot. We lost

01:07:15.170 --> 01:07:17.469
Sean for about 15 minutes at the end. We did.

01:07:18.369 --> 01:07:22.449
It got tough. She introduced some really good

01:07:22.449 --> 01:07:25.269
stuff. Wine's fun. He was speaking in tongues.

01:07:25.429 --> 01:07:28.469
He was. God bless. All right. Well, look, I'm

01:07:28.469 --> 01:07:30.650
really glad. Hold on. We got a couple minutes

01:07:30.650 --> 01:07:32.230
to talk about. What do we want to talk about?

01:07:32.690 --> 01:07:36.159
What do we got coming up? Any events? Let's see.

01:07:36.199 --> 01:07:39.219
Christmas? No. Thanksgiving. Thanksgiving. Now

01:07:39.219 --> 01:07:40.900
I have to go to the beach for Thanksgiving. That's

01:07:40.900 --> 01:07:43.320
right. So I have to tell my wife, sorry. Get

01:07:43.320 --> 01:07:45.239
a bikini. Do something different. I'm sorry.

01:07:45.400 --> 01:07:47.840
What about are you guys fans of going on cruises?

01:07:47.980 --> 01:07:49.320
I'm wearing the bikini. We've never been on a

01:07:49.320 --> 01:07:52.760
cruise. Really? I haven't either. I don't really

01:07:52.760 --> 01:07:54.579
have a desire. I think there's other things that

01:07:54.579 --> 01:07:57.599
I'd rather pick than a cruise, but I'm not opposed

01:07:57.599 --> 01:08:00.639
to it. If somebody invited us or whatever, but

01:08:00.639 --> 01:08:02.260
it's not one of those things that's on the list

01:08:02.260 --> 01:08:04.900
of like, let's make it something. I think I'd

01:08:04.900 --> 01:08:07.239
rather do like a Mediterranean or a European

01:08:07.239 --> 01:08:09.719
river or an Alaska cruise. The river cruises?

01:08:09.760 --> 01:08:12.159
Yeah. I don't know if I really want to do the

01:08:12.159 --> 01:08:15.400
Caribbean ones. I'd rather do the Caribbean.

01:08:16.180 --> 01:08:19.039
Caribbean? Caribbean. Caribbean. It depends on

01:08:19.039 --> 01:08:22.340
where you come from. Yeah. Does it? If you live

01:08:22.340 --> 01:08:26.420
in the U .S., if you go over to Thailand. I'm

01:08:26.420 --> 01:08:28.460
fucking with you. Those are too, you know what?

01:08:28.500 --> 01:08:31.100
Honestly, they're too party. They're too much

01:08:31.100 --> 01:08:33.720
noise, too much kids, too much junk. I think

01:08:33.720 --> 01:08:35.539
that's why. Alaska's amazing. Alaska is amazing.

01:08:35.539 --> 01:08:37.659
I have a couple of friends that I work with,

01:08:37.699 --> 01:08:39.600
and they swear by going on this cruise. I have

01:08:39.600 --> 01:08:42.100
a neighbor that they go on cruises all the time.

01:08:42.119 --> 01:08:45.170
They absolutely love them. And if you're not

01:08:45.170 --> 01:08:47.090
a huge loser, I mean, to get the drink package

01:08:47.090 --> 01:08:49.350
is one thing. I say if you're not a huge loser

01:08:49.350 --> 01:08:51.970
regarding the drinking, if you can handle like

01:08:51.970 --> 01:08:55.630
10 drinks a day. I mean, there's some people

01:08:55.630 --> 01:08:56.810
that are like, what do you mean I can't have

01:08:56.810 --> 01:08:58.149
another drink? I was like, dude, that's on your

01:08:58.149 --> 01:09:00.489
fucking 10th, all right? You've been here an

01:09:00.489 --> 01:09:04.609
hour, you know? But my point is that, in fact,

01:09:04.609 --> 01:09:05.930
you can buy them, but drinks are so expensive

01:09:05.930 --> 01:09:08.590
on these cruises. They are, very. But if that's

01:09:08.590 --> 01:09:10.909
not your bag, but... I don't know. You got to

01:09:10.909 --> 01:09:12.470
smuggle it in. I'm trying to figure that out

01:09:12.470 --> 01:09:15.270
before I go. Wow. I'm not going to keister it.

01:09:16.609 --> 01:09:19.689
A bladder? What the hell, dude? Well, I mean,

01:09:19.750 --> 01:09:22.590
so these cruises, they got several. They've got,

01:09:22.649 --> 01:09:26.090
you know, the ones that take you out to the Caribbean.

01:09:26.250 --> 01:09:28.510
The Alaska one is kind of cool. The Alaska one

01:09:28.510 --> 01:09:31.750
is amazing. Highly recommend it. Highly recommend

01:09:31.750 --> 01:09:34.350
it. You've been on it? Yes. Celebrity cruises.

01:09:34.369 --> 01:09:37.260
Do you have any photos to prove it? That's really

01:09:37.260 --> 01:09:39.739
a sore topic. Oh, did you lose your key? No,

01:09:39.739 --> 01:09:46.279
the IT guy, my laptop froze up, and I was like,

01:09:46.300 --> 01:09:48.520
listen, I've got really important pictures on

01:09:48.520 --> 01:09:50.180
this laptop. Oh, that's right. I need you to

01:09:50.180 --> 01:09:53.939
do whatever you can to rescue that hard drive.

01:09:54.020 --> 01:09:55.640
He's like, oh, man, I got you, I got you. Don't

01:09:55.640 --> 01:09:57.909
worry about it. He walks down the hall. He comes

01:09:57.909 --> 01:10:00.029
back. I could have sworn it was less than four

01:10:00.029 --> 01:10:02.289
minutes later. Hey, man, sorry. I had to clean

01:10:02.289 --> 01:10:04.390
the hard drive off. I was like, brother, you

01:10:04.390 --> 01:10:07.649
put no effort into this. Dude, we had pictures

01:10:07.649 --> 01:10:11.590
of nesting bald eagles that just happened to

01:10:11.590 --> 01:10:13.609
be in a tree above the dock when we were going

01:10:13.609 --> 01:10:15.569
to go look at whales on a little whale boat thing.

01:10:15.670 --> 01:10:17.930
They were literally doing their whole mating

01:10:17.930 --> 01:10:19.770
call thing where they were looking at each other

01:10:19.770 --> 01:10:21.689
and feeding each other shit. It was incredible.

01:10:22.109 --> 01:10:24.170
That's why we need video. We're not doing video

01:10:24.170 --> 01:10:26.010
because I don't do the bald eagle thing very

01:10:26.010 --> 01:10:28.470
well. I'm just saying we lost so many amazing

01:10:28.470 --> 01:10:32.930
pictures. That is tough. A lot of these phones

01:10:32.930 --> 01:10:34.270
go straight to the cloud when you take these

01:10:34.270 --> 01:10:40.010
pictures. I got to tell you, I'm about to make

01:10:40.010 --> 01:10:44.050
the jump. This phone's going to go. The Android,

01:10:44.170 --> 01:10:46.289
I should say. I'm going to switch over probably

01:10:46.289 --> 01:10:49.409
to the Apple iPhone. Welcome to the club. You

01:10:49.409 --> 01:10:51.890
heard it first right here on the podcast. That

01:10:51.890 --> 01:10:56.250
is a momentous, monumental... It is. It's a big

01:10:56.250 --> 01:10:59.689
deal. Everyone in my family has... iPhone and

01:10:59.689 --> 01:11:03.289
I got my iPad. I think that's what turned you.

01:11:03.390 --> 01:11:05.829
It did because I really enjoy having FaceTime.

01:11:05.829 --> 01:11:08.869
Nobody likes the green messages. You can't send

01:11:08.869 --> 01:11:12.100
you anything Android. Our texts all get screwed

01:11:12.100 --> 01:11:14.100
up. You get it screwed up if you're all iPhone

01:11:14.100 --> 01:11:16.520
and one Android. It does. That's exactly right.

01:11:16.600 --> 01:11:19.659
Because when we do text messages, it's like I

01:11:19.659 --> 01:11:22.460
have two text threads. And I'm like, I have no

01:11:22.460 --> 01:11:24.859
idea why we have two text threads. It's like,

01:11:24.939 --> 01:11:27.520
well, I don't care. Welcome to the club. Welcome

01:11:27.520 --> 01:11:29.779
to the cool kids club. That's right. It was a

01:11:29.779 --> 01:11:32.159
pleasure having you guys. Your story is such

01:11:32.159 --> 01:11:34.840
a cool story. Thank you so much. And we would

01:11:34.840 --> 01:11:37.100
love to have you back. We would love to be back.

01:11:37.910 --> 01:11:40.310
Cool. Thank you. We wrapped this up pretty good.

01:11:40.409 --> 01:11:43.350
And we're happy for the single malt Texas. Shout

01:11:43.350 --> 01:11:47.770
out to those guys, Swift. And where are they?

01:11:48.930 --> 01:11:52.130
You can find them at Moe's Soda Wines. Driftwood.

01:11:53.489 --> 01:11:57.250
Which is close to San Antonio. Austin. I met

01:11:57.250 --> 01:11:59.949
Austin. Do they have a tasting room or anything

01:11:59.949 --> 01:12:03.409
like that? She does not. But we can arrange one

01:12:03.409 --> 01:12:05.350
if you need. I think we're going to need one.

01:12:05.449 --> 01:12:07.670
Challenge accepted. We can do that. All right,

01:12:07.689 --> 01:12:09.210
guys. Look, it's the second half of the Dudes

01:12:09.210 --> 01:12:11.670
Like Us podcast. It's November 4th. We appreciate

01:12:11.670 --> 01:12:13.369
our guests coming out here. We've had a great

01:12:13.369 --> 01:12:15.390
time. You guys look like you're about ready to

01:12:15.390 --> 01:12:17.770
go to bed. Chuck. Yes. God bless it. Thank you

01:12:17.770 --> 01:12:20.430
for staying on top of shit. Dudes Like Us Facebook.

01:12:22.109 --> 01:12:26.029
And Instagram. God bless. And I'm Sean. I'm Paul.

01:12:26.270 --> 01:12:30.609
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01:12:38.189 --> 01:12:41.930
your hashtag? JustNoey. JustNoey. Awesome. Thanks,

01:12:41.970 --> 01:12:42.890
guys. Good night. Thanks.