I came up with a conversation about changing
our theme music. I was like, no, I like it. That's
outrageous. Why would we do that? Who brought
that up? It was with folks at the wedding I had
to go to. Well, they're stupid. They are. Fucking
retards. I guess they're listeners? I mean, we
have listeners. I'll get into a little bit of
that. Sorry, we have to take a drink. Yeah, I
was tasting this. I like it a lot. Do you really?
I do. It's interesting. It's very rich. All right,
we'll shoot, man. I need to get pumped up. September
30th, first half of the Dudes Like Us podcast.
Final day of September. Yes, yes. Jeez. Then
we're launching the final quarter of the year.
It is. It is. I know that may not be chronologically
correct. Whoever's going to contest that. It's
financially correct. Yeah, just the last three
months. I don't have to follow any of that shit
anymore. I don't give a fuck what quarter it
is. Yeah, look at you. You're like, yeah, F it.
F it. Yeah. You know what's weird? Quarterly.
When I was working at corporate, we had our typical
financial January to February, or I'm sorry,
December. But there are some of our companies
that we worked with, like Cisco. Yeah. Cisco's
month or year end is in July. Right. So the end
of July is their year end. And so their quarters
and everything, there's always a huge push at
month -end and quarter -end and year -end for
Cisco. You'd work late and all that bullshit.
You'd have to scramble to get things in at the
last minute because it has to go against that
budget and blah, blah, blah. Oh, yeah, and you
have the Cisco reps just being assholes. Oh,
yeah. Why isn't it in? Why isn't it in? And everyone's
up late. I need to see it. I need to see it.
Because that's how they get their bonus. Well,
then they hold over discounts on you. Well, in
order to get this 50 % discount, you have to
have it in by this date. There's shit that was
90 % off. Damn. Yeah. If you want to get that
90 % off discount. You wait until the last day
of the quarter of the year. Well, I don't know
what takes so long, but it seems like, okay,
I'm sitting here at my desk. It's 11 o 'clock
at night. How long have we known about this deal?
Of course. And why am I at 11 o 'clock, one hour
left, still trying to get this PO cut? You were
at the mercy of so many people and departments
that didn't plan for shit. No. And then I get
blamed. Oh, scramble at the last minute. I would
have been blamed if I missed the timeline. Of
course. I would say your lack of planning is
not my emergency. My planning was right. So I
don't know. You know, I'm glad I don't have to
deal with that anymore. But it was it was it
pissed me off so much every year. Every quarter.
Every quarter, every month. Yeah, yeah. With
Cisco. And I was a Cisco buyer for a couple years.
And, you know, it was just a matter of fact.
Once you did, you was like, all right, it's month
end. And I worked. I worked. I remember one month
end was like Christmas Eve or something stupid
like that. New Year's Eve or something like that.
I remember being New Year's Eve, working late
because they needed to get something. New Year's
Eve? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Lord, did they make a
movie on that? Like Elf? The book? No, they don't
give a shit. That's just ridiculous. They don't
give a shit. They're like, I need my commission.
Yeah, that's really what it boils down to. Their
commission and bonus. Yep. That's all they wanted.
They don't give a shit. And they feel fit if
you're not jumping. Yep. And they were assholes,
man. They're just like. You don't miss it, huh?
Yeah. I don't think anybody would have missed
that. No. I want to go back. If that happened
at my job, I wouldn't be working there either.
My boss is retiring, not this Friday, but next
Friday. Barry, Barry, Barry, Barry. So we're
planning a little cake and ice cream social for
him next Thursday. Is it in the shape of a big
penis? It is not. Uh, Oh, is it ice cream cake?
No, it's just, apparently it's a really good
cake from like a real, a real bakery. It's not
like, you know, Kroger or something like that.
It's not like you made it at home. Right. Right.
Well, hold on. Check us out on dudes like us
.com or sorry, dudes like us on Facebook and
Instagram. Uh, dudes like us. I'm Sean. I'm Paul.
And I'm Jeff. We kind of glossed over. Yeah,
we kind of, well, I mean, you know, we were so
excited about talking to our listeners that we
just kind of dive right into it. That's what
we do. Producer Chuck, staying on top of shit.
Yes, sir. Take it away. Barry's leaving. Yeah,
he's leaving, and we're going to get a nice cake
for him. And on the cake, we're going to put,
yeah, so you're retiring. Yay, woo -hoo, whatever.
He wasn't forced to retire, but he was kind of
like, you know, people reach an ultimatum. It's
kind of like you. You're like, I'm not working
on New Year's Eve so that you can get your bonus.
And Barry was like, I'm not working at all from
work. I'm going to work from home. Yeah, that's
what it boiled down to. Our company went to full
-time in the office all five days. And he has
a place up in Durango, Colorado, and he was spending
two or three weeks at a time up there. So you're
going in every day? That's excellent. I'm going
in every day. And so he was kind of like, yeah,
he was still doing that. And his boss was like,
but you can't do that anymore. He was like, well,
I told you I was going to do that. You get to
the point where you're just like, I'm done. And
one thing led to another, and they kind of worked
it out that, well, maybe you don't need to be
here anymore. And he's like, yeah, you know what?
You're right. I retire. So is he coming in for
his cake and ice cream? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
No, he's been coming in every day. Has he been
doing anything? Well, I mean, he's transitioning
with his successor this week. So, yeah, he's
doing stuff. Who's his successor? It's somebody
that worked. worked for him, you know, in the
10 years that I've been gone, you know, because
I was his right -hand man, right? And then I
left for 10 years. Well, from my understanding,
that person was like, you know, under Paul when
Paul left, and now she's... No. No, no, not true.
She was in a totally different team. But, yeah,
because she was a manager or... Not under, but
just not as senior as you. I think she was a
senior manager, too. And then she went on to
become an associate director, which they didn't
even have. Is she going to pave the way? If they
had had that role when I was there, I would not
have left. But I had nowhere to go in terms of
promotion and kids going into college and need
to make more money and, you know, financially,
blah, blah, blah. And so I left for 10 years
and came back. And then, you know, she has become
his. That's all right. It's probably well -deserved.
Oh, it's totally well -deserved. That's what
I would expect. The only reason why, you know,
I could even be a candidate for that role is
if she didn't want it. And why would you not
want it? Right. How old is she? Is she near retirement?
No, no, no. She's probably a little bit younger
than I am, I would think. Oh, hell. She's probably
70. Wow. Right, right. Wait, wait. No, I'm not
quite there. I will be 55 in a couple weeks.
The big 5 '5". Jeez. Yeah. But I'm not the oldest
of the group, am I? No, I think Chuck is. I'm
sorry, Paul. I think Jeff might be older by a
couple months. I am almost a year older than
you. Yeah. Your birthday's in April, and mine's
in May. So you're both older than I am? Oh, yeah.
Nice. We all three are. Yeah. Yeah, but you're
the youngest. You're the runt. You're the runt,
really. Emotionally. I am currently, you're 55,
right? Yep. I'm 56. Well, I'll be 55. So there
you have it. He looks the oldest. No, definitely
not. Definitely not. I can double down on that
one. Well, we are getting older. I'll tell you
what. I was driving up to south of College Station
to go to a wedding. And this is going to be the
strangest thing ever because I'm not talking
about the wedding right now. But the strangest
thing, I'm driving and I look at my hand. Oh,
boy. You're like, well, that looks old. Yes.
You're like, well, is that my hand? Dude, I'm
serious. I looked down at my hand. I was like,
holy shit. Look at those wrinkles. You're like,
that doesn't look soft and supple anymore. I
was like, what? Do you get liver spots and everything?
I'd rather have liver spots, but I don't like
the absence of tension, you know? The wrinkly,
veiny kind of... Well, you need to put on some
weight so it stretches and gets really fat. Is
that what it is? Fat top hand. A little fat back
on the hand. I'm not so sure on that advice.
Fat don't crack. Maybe you just need to put baby
oil all over your body and it makes it soft and
supple again. Yeah, whatever, man, but it's kind
of like self -acknowledging again. It is. It's
the chin -utter for me. It's a fact of life.
I'm just like, it sucks. It's there. It's just
starting to hang down a little bit more and more.
See, Sean's hiding his underneath his beard.
Are you going to start wearing it? Oh, yeah,
it's by design. Are you going to start wearing
a scarf? A scarf? I want to have one of those,
what is it, the Three's Company Don Knotts character.
Yes. Ascot. Mr. Farley. Mr. Farley. With a gigantic
collar and a scarf. Would that work? Is that
coming in back in style? Come on, knock on my
door. Let's try to make it come back. Do what?
Let's try to make it come back. So let's all
start wearing it. Let's do it. What do they call
that? Is it a scarf? I thought it was a kerchief.
A kerchief goes in your pocket. Oh, the kerchief's
in the pocket? And you blow your snot in it.
Yeah, exactly. That's a generational thing. Or
dab your tears. Yes. Dude, did your parents,
my dad, would carry around a handkerchief? My
dad did. Did your dad do this? My dad did this
until he died. Mine did not do it until he died,
but he did have it probably, I don't know. When
I wear a suit jacket, I usually always carry
a kerchief, especially when I go to weddings.
But do you use it and blow your nose in it? No,
because I'm lazy. I think it's gross. Yeah, I
mean, I think that there's a time that it wasn't,
you know, because, I mean, back then, back then,
you know, diapers weren't what they were, and
they would reuse the cloths for diapers all the
time. Well, yeah, you'd have the diaper guy.
put them in, they'd wash them and bring them
back. The milkman diaper guy? Yeah, there was
a diaper guy. But the handkerchief thing, my
dad, I remember going when I'd visit him, even
right before he died. What a shitty job that
is. Oh, yeah. Seriously. I mean, how would you
even unearth that? You just throw it in the...
It comes in a bag. So they'd have these big laundry
bags. You'd probably just throw it in the back
and here's your clean ones and then... But it
stunk. That's my whole point. They didn't have
diaper genies back then with the poop sausage.
Yeah, the diaper genie. You drop it in there
and then you turn it. They did not work that
well. No, the smell. It actually just added a
baby powder flavor to the poop smell. What we
ended up doing is turning it upside down and
using it as a wastebasket. We did, but we put
the diapers in there. But yeah, it didn't work
well at all. It's one of those stupid things
that you... do your registration for with a baby
shower or whatever. Maybe they've improved on
the technology. Maybe. I don't know. I won't
know until the kids eventually squeeze out a
grandkid and who knows when that's going to be.
I think we should invent one. Maybe like a little
portable incinerator. There you go. They already
have those. Like the flex capacitor. Right next
to the changing table in the nursery. A little
incinerator. Just have a little tray with some
ash in the bottom. And that becomes an incense
type of thing. Aromatherapy. Then it's fertilized.
You just sprinkle it in your hedges. Oh, perfect.
Why have we not thought about this earlier? We
have no shortage of brilliant ideas, by the way.
They have those on boats. You know, on some boats
like those house boats they have on the lake.
I didn't say it earlier. Yeah, just stand up
and poop. Why won't you just let it poop right
in the lake? It's not allowed. People swim in
there. Then it's like the Ganges. Oh, my God.
It's like you have so many species of animals.
already pooping everywhere in that lake. No,
that's different. It'd be a delicacy for those
fish. They'd be like, oh, I'm hanging out over
at the, where are you going? Oh, I'm glamping
this weekend. I'm going to go hang out by the
boathouses. Oh, that's the fish talking, you
know? Oh, that's the fish talking? Did you ever
see the rivers over there in India where they're
like some guys taking a dump 50 feet up and they're
down there washing themselves? I lived that.
Downstream? I told you that. I was not in the
dump. I mean, I wasn't dumping in the river.
Oh, yeah, he was. But, dude, it was bad. There'd
be kids playing and brushing their teeth and
cleaning. How do they just not all die? Here's
a dude just dropping a total deuce right there
in the river. Yeah. It's like a bidet, just a
big old bidet, just sinking down in there and
sloshing around. It was crazy, man. How come
they are just not all sick? Is the ASCOT coming
back? What is it? I think they kind of are. Just
all sick and... They have definitely a shorter
lifespan. Because of that shit. Maybe not. Maybe
they have a longer lifespan. Yeah, they're recycling
biome and they've got healthy guts now. Yeah,
for sure. That's why most of them are not as
heavy weight as we are. Rock solid immune systems.
Right. God. Maybe we're the ones missing out.
Maybe we're the dummies. We need to go back to
that. Let's start swipping at sewage. I'll poop
upstream from you, Paul. Perfect. You can brush
your teeth. Pick an upper decker. I'm in. What
could possibly go wrong in this plan? You go
to the doctor. I think I have E. coli. How'd
you get that? Well, let me explain it to you.
My friend diarrhea -ed into my toothbrush. Okay,
that's great. What a great topic. That wasn't
on the board either. That's interesting. I don't
know why it wouldn't be. All right, busy week.
A lot of crazy stuff going on. We had some exciting
football. The Aggies game, wow. Yes. Wow. What
a game. Dude, I went and watched that. They have
SEC in 60. If you haven't watched it, that's
great. They cut out everything except for the
big plays, right? Oh, okay. And so you can watch
the whole game in about 10 minutes. Oh, very
nice. Yeah, so you can go back and watch the
big plays and see what happened. And it's just
the SEC? Yeah, it's just the SEC and just the
SEC games, right? Well, there's several providers
that do it. That's a great service, though. Yeah,
yeah. It's on SEC Network. And so, yeah, you
go back and you're like, man, we should have
had 30 points. Oh, I know. Easily. Remember,
I told you how frustrated I got. I was like,
we just dominated that game, but we couldn't
score any points. I was like, what the hell is
going on here? Two missed field goals, three
touchdowns called back because of stupid penalties.
I know. Yeah. We just ran up and down on them.
They had no... Third down conversions and no
fourth down conversions. We dominated. Is Auburn
any good this year? Always. Not always. Yeah,
I mean, they're always a solid team, man. They
are. They gave who? Oklahoma a run for their
money the week before. Is Oklahoma good? They're
never a pushover. I'm just saying. Auburn is
never a pushover. Especially when they play us.
Right. It always seems like we go beat them at
their house and they come beat us at our house.
Right. Back and forth. But, yeah, so the two
missed field goals. And that stupid play where
we threw the interception and they ran it back
80 yards or whatever. Oh, my God. It's third
and one. This was the Auburn game, right? And
what was the final score? 16 -10. And we lost?
No. They're undefeated. Ranked number five or
six, depending on the ball. Oh, did they climb
all the way to five? Yeah, because other teams
lost. Penn State lost. And we're playing ball.
I mean, it's for real. And we beat Notre Dame.
Georgia lost. Well, we did. We got professional
players. Well, I think they all do now. Shit.
They will be soon, but we're paying them well
now for college stuff. I'll tell you who else
I'm impressed with is Texas Tech. I think they're
playing extremely well as well. Are they climbing
in the rank? Yes. What are they up to? Three.
I have no idea where they're at. One. I think
they're one. Ohio State's one, so I don't know
where Texas Tech is. But they had the bye week
last week, but they've been playing really strong
as well. I just don't know if they're – Texas
Tech is 11. Number 11. 11, right behind Alabama.
That's not bad. That's great. They're ahead of
Georgia and LSU and Tennessee and Iowa State.
Oh, shit. A &M is number six. All right, so going
down the top 15. Tennessee, Iowa State, LSU,
Georgia, Texas Tech, Alabama, Texas. Texas has
kind of dropped. Indiana, Penn State, Texas A
&M, Oklahoma, Ole Miss, Miami, Oregon, and Ohio
State. Very nice. Very nice. Those are all solid
teams, man. This is going to be an exciting year.
So we're 4 -0. Why aren't we the same as Miami
since they're 4 -0? It has to do with who they're
playing. Strength of schedule, all that kind
of stuff. Actually, I think Miami has beaten
Florida State and Florida. And Notre Dame, right,
in the first game. Right. And so they were kind
of higher to start with. So they don't usually
jump you unless you have a big win against somebody,
you know, a real impressive win. They don't jump
you. They just kind of scoot you up. And you
know how it is. Every year there's complaints.
Hey, look, where we are, I'm not complaining
about where we are. No, no, no, no, no. What
kind of torques me off is Alabama is ahead of
Texas Tech, and Alabama has a loss. Right. Yeah,
but they lost to somebody. Somebody good. I forget
who it was. No, they beat Georgia. Detroit Lions.
They beat Georgia, yeah. No, they had – oh, was
it Tennessee? I've got to look at that. I don't
know. I think – But, you know, we've always been
frustrated by this because it's so subjective,
right? Yeah, it's early. They get the benefit
of the doubt, just like Ohio State does and all
the big ones. But Alabama seems to – they could
lose two games. They'd still be in the top ten.
You know? I don't know. Just because of who they
are. I know. Well, the Dallas Cowboys broke the
world record for... Well, the highest points
ever scored in a tie. No, that's incorrect. They
had a higher score. In NFL? Well, that's what
they said in the news. It was the second highest,
is what I heard. Well, they both scored, so they
shared that record together. Yes, that's true.
But I heard there was one game that was higher.
What game was that? I don't know. It was a long
time ago, though. Well, they just mentioned it
during the game. But they called it Scorigami,
where they have a unique score. So that was like
the first 40 -40 tie ever in NFL. Well, that's
kind of cool. Yeah, because ties are very infrequent
and kind of easy to do. But Alabama had lost
to Florida State earlier. Well, you're right,
Jeff. Yeah. I mean, what the hell? They lied.
Yep. Yeah, they're not always the smartest people.
No. Who was the announcers? I don't know, but
I'm boycotting them. There you go. You should.
I need to have content. And I even made a note.
Oh, that's a little factoid. If you're going
to be on TV or on a podcast, you cannot say incorrect
information. Ever. Hell, man. You cannot. I mean,
look at us. We are examples of absolutely perfect
information all the time. So it was the second
highest, falling short of the 43 between Oakland
Raiders and the Boston Patriots. Boston Patriots.
I know it's been a while. That's 64. Yeah. Why'd
they expand to New England? They wanted to attract
more viewers. But what do you guys think about
the new rules for the overtime? You liking them?
Stupid. Where both teams have a chance? I think
it's a great rule. Yeah, but don't end it in
a tie. Well, I mean. Just keep going. I like
the college thing where they just keep going,
going, going, going until somebody. And they
make it harder each time? Yeah. Yes. That you
have to go. I think first a field goal could
win it. Then you have to go for two or get that
touchdown. Then you have to go for two, and then
it just keeps ratcheting up. That's the cause.
And then they keep going. I would love it if
they did that for the pros. That would be super
cool. That'd be fine. It's kind of like hockey
where they do a shootout at the end, right? Well,
I mean, yeah. Was it seven games, and then they
just start the shootout? No. Seven overtimes
in regular season? Seven overtimes? I thought
it was four. Well, the three periods plus the
four, that's seven. Yeah. Seven periods. Right.
That's a long game. And they rarely ever get
to the shootout. Yeah, that's a long game. Yeah.
Anyway, but that's, yeah, so that's good stuff.
But I do like it. I do like the shootout stuff.
That'd be fun. I like the rules. I do like the
rules on the new kickoff that started last year.
Yeah, last year. Yeah, but that's a good rule.
Well, and that whole thing was to cut down on
the injuries. Correct. Yeah. And also the place
kickers and the field goal kickers, man, those
guys suck. Where are they getting this talent
from? Has this talent always been there, and
they just weren't utilizing it? Because all of
a sudden, we're kicking 55s, 65s, like nothing.
I think people specialize so much more now. You
have these kickers, and that's all they do, and
they train, and they train, and they train, and
they train. I think back in the day, it was,
yeah, I could kick the ball pretty good. I'm
going to play college. But they didn't. It's
very specialized now. Plus, you've got these
soccer guys coming over. That's the guy that's
kicking ass. Aubrey. Was it Aubrey in Dallas
Cowboys? Yeah. I mean, yeah, he's whacking the
shit out of it, but he just kicks it differently.
When that ball, when he kicks it with his foot,
it's like it doesn't follow through the same.
It's like he's just popping it. It's like magic.
It's like popping it. It's like a little. I think
they're over -inflating that ball. I think the
Titans need to go find a soccer player somewhere
because our kicker sucks. Nick Folk? Yeah, Nick
Folk last night on the game, he kicked, he's
40, right? He's like the world's oldest kicker.
And he kicked two mid -50s field goals last night.
Nice. Yeah. For the Jets. They were pretty clutch,
but they still ended up losing. Because they're
the Jets. It's probably just like everything
else. You have these specialists when there's
techniques that have been developed and exercises
to strengthen whatever muscle you use. Special
shoes, all kinds of things. It's just technique.
Back in the day, you just have a half foot and
you're good to go. Who was that guy that was
in his 60s and would kick it straight on for
the NFL? That was the guy with the half foot.
Really? Was it Dempsey? Was that his last name?
No, that's not ringing a bell. Yeah, he had half
a foot. Well, that seems unfair. You have like
a club that you can kick it farther because you're
missing half your foot? Tom Dempsey. Tom Dempsey.
Yeah, look at his foot. I think he may have had
the longest. He was born without toes on his
right foot. Yeah, he had the longest field goal
for the longest time, for a long time. I mean,
look at that. Yeah, look at that. That's totally
not fair. They should call him Boxcar Dempsey.
Look at that foot. It looks like a sledgehammer.
That's not who I'm thinking of, though. That's
really interesting, though. I've never heard
of this guy. Looks like a mallet. Tom Dempsey.
Coming in shell. Look up who the oldest. Probably
had some weights in that. Look up who the oldest
kicker was of all time. Like while playing, of
course. Oldest NFL kicker. History. Yeah, there
you go. Who is it here? That's who I'm thinking
of. George Blanda. That's exactly who I'm thinking
of. He was only 48. Oh, he's only 48? He probably
looked 80 back then. Yeah, he probably did. He
probably did. Interesting. George Blanda. That
was 1948? That's when he was born. Or that's
when he played. I'm sorry. He played from 49
to 76. And he was a kicker? He sure is. Okay.
Chicago. They keep showing him, you know, like.
holding a football and throwing it in the pitchers.
I'm like, wait a second, you're a kicker. What
are your Oilers? He started as quarterback. Look
at Morton Anderson. He was 87 years in the NFL.
I'm sorry, that's how old he was. It was at 18
plus 7, that's 25 years in the NFL. Damn. That's
impressive. That's impressive. So how are your
Titans doing? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Anyway,
so let's talk about... Well, I can say this because
the Bagels, I don't think, are going to win another
game the entire year. What, do you guys want
to talk about the Batwings? They quit. We are
0 -4. They quit. And there is no hope of winning
a game. Is Cam Ward just not... No, no, it's
not him. I mean, he's making good decisions for
being a rookie. He's made some great throws,
and they're dropping passes left and right and
not giving him time to throw. I mean, obviously
he's making some mistakes like any rookie quarterback
would, but he's not the problem. All right, good.
He's not the reason why we're 0 -4. I'll tell
you what, the coaching is not helping. Yeah,
I see the Bengals going 2 -15. Damn. I know you
lost Burrow, but who's your quarterback now?
Jake Browning. Oh, God. Yeah, so it's pretty
much a lost season. I think they should go get
Kirk Cousins for the year. Are they, Owen? They're
not winless, though. Oh, they won their first
two games. Oh, they're 2 -2. Yeah, you're fine.
I mean, well, yeah. Okay. Did you see the last
two that they've lost? No, no, no. They've lost
horribly. They lost to Denver last night pretty
bad. Yeah, like 28 -3. We lost 26 -0. How do
you have no points in the NFL? Do the Titans
and the Bengals play this year? Probably. I don't
know. So you're saying there's a chance. There's
a chance. You're going to pick up one more. It'll
be a 0 -0 tie. They're just going for the draft
pick. God, how would that be? That'd be the 0
-0 tie. That'd be awesome. That'd be terrible.
Yeah. I'd pay big money for that game. Yeah.
All right. That would be the battle of the basement.
That's horrible. Anyway. So what did you guys
do over the weekend? Did you have a good one?
Jam -packed? Well, Chuck and I had some fun watching
the Aggie game, and then we went on to the rail
yard and saw some country band that wasn't that
great. What did you do Friday? I thought you
went to the rail yard on Friday. No, that was
Saturday. Saturday, yeah. I don't remember Friday.
Oh. No, no, it wasn't like that. I think it was
just kind of TV watching. Right. You know what
I mean? I don't think we did anything as far
as I can remember. Did you watch Poldark again?
I'm sorry. Poldark? Pull Dark. Yeah. No, I don't
think so. No? Well, you and Chili have watched
that already. I don't think so. It's period piece.
Oh, is it? Yes. Yeah. You like those period pieces.
Is it period piece of porn? Yes. Is it really?
No. No. That's where the salesman goes out and
he pre -teaches his folks how to sell markets
for a living. Yes. What the hell? I don't know.
That's a thing. No, you guys would like that
one. No, we're still watching Hell on Wheels.
We got three episodes left and we're five season
deal. And I actually really enjoy it. It's fascinating
history about how they were building the railroad
back in the pioneer days for the first time,
the first transcontinental railroad. And, you
know, the Chinese guys were working on it and
the Irish guys were working on it. And they were,
you know, so much corruption and abuse. And it
was a race to see who could, you know, build
the railroad first. It's kind of fascinating
history. And they didn't really have any law
out there. So it was a lawless situation where,
like, you know, people getting whacked, you know,
and then, you know, then the law would come into
town kind of inconsistently and somebody would
get hung for, for shooting somebody. I mean,
and then you got Indians attacking the, I mean,
it was fucking chaos. It was crazy. Yeah. So
you guys watch the, you ever watch any series
at all where you're kind of like eight in or,
or a mini series and you, and all of a sudden
you're like, this is horrible. And I've got this
personality where I have to see it through. I'm
the same way. I was like, I'm this far in. Once
you're invested, 8M? Yeah. Well, what are you
watching that you think is horrible? Well, I
mean, on Netflix, I did. That was actually pretty
good, man. He's fooling himself. No. Dude, I
mean, if you watched it, you would know. But
Animal Kingdom on Netflix. Animal Kingdom on
Netflix. It had a few sparks. It's some drug
dealer crime family. It's a family with boys
and this crazy mom, isn't it? Yeah. Is that the
one? Who's the - Ellen Barkin? Yes. Okay. That's
exactly who I was thinking of. I never bothered
watching that when it was on regular TV. Was
it on regular TV? I don't know. No, it was on
TNT or something like that. Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah,
yeah. Yeah, TNT. You're saying it's not good?
I mean - Look, it had its moments, but there
was a time I was like, all right, this should
be done. I mean, they should wrap this up. They
should not have renewed the season. And it just
keeps going. It just kept going, and it was just
like these. And you're like, damn it. The whole
thing was a train wreck. I have to keep watching.
Now there's 75 episodes, so you've got a ways
to go. No, I finished it. I'm done. You're right
in. You're just like, wow, I've got another.
Yeah, so I just binged watched. I was like, I
know, I'm just not going to sleep. I'm powering
through this fucker. For a show you don't like,
you spent 72 hours watching every show, huh?
Hey, man, the more you know. That's funny. I
will give, if there's that many, I'll give up.
I'll be like, yeah, I'm done. If it's that bad.
Now, if it's like, it's like these series now
where it's like 10 to a season, and you're like
halfway through, you're like, all right, I could
get through this. But if I got through eight
of those, I was like, yeah, this is a good, I'm
not lasting another 65. There have been some
we bailed on, for sure. That, you know, after
watching it for a while, we're like, okay. We
gave up on Star Trek Discovery. I'm going to
watch the final season. Well, no, that was the
Strange New Worlds. The Star Trek Discovery was
the one before it. We didn't finish it either.
The first season was good, and then it got super
woke. We didn't finish it. Bad. I was like, I'm
not watching this anymore. Yeah, I agree. I'm
with you. And I was a huge fan. I'd watch all
that stuff. I'd watch the Star Wars stuff. I'd
watch all of it. And I recognized when it was
like, oh my God. And the Star Trek, I was like,
I really want to watch this, but this is rich.
This is too much. It was cartoonish. They actually
had a cartoon at one of the shows where they
had gone to this planet and things converted
to a cartoon. And I was like, what is going on
here? They were like puppets, right? It was a
cartoon. It was an actual cartoon. Are you saying
it was Star Trek Discovery? It was one of the
Star Treks. Hopefully it's not Strange New World.
I think it is a Strange New World. Well, we're
almost done with... Did you watch the last season
yet? All of it? I have not yet. No, I stopped
watching it, man. I have to find the energy to
go back and watch it. It wasn't that. I think
it was a Strange New World. I'm pretty sure.
It was. Because it was when... Well, maybe you
were having a bad trip while you were watching
it. It was when Spock was younger. Yeah, I would...
It was none of those. I would not be okay with
that. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. That might be it
right there. Yeah, the whole thing was just...
Whatever. Whatever, man. You know, I enjoy it.
There was one Muppet, too. Star Trek has... That's
crazy. Star Trek has a lot of good stuff. But
they missed the mark on some of these. Yeah,
there are some good ones. There's a couple oddball
ones in this season, but there's some really
good ones, too. Yeah. You just have to kind of
get through those. Fight through it, yeah. Fight
those stupid ones. When they're trying to be
all creative and shit. Yeah, you're just like,
whatever, man. You want to see. My attitude about
it is it's like a military unit, right? You know
what I mean? It is a military unit for the most
part. So they need to stay true to rank and authority
and taking it seriously, and they just get all
goofy with it. It's kind of hard to... Yeah,
there's one this year where the holodeck that
you see, they're building it because it's not
developed yet, so they're building it and they're
testing it so that she creates a murder mystery.
So the whole show is like a murder mystery. Right.
I mean, it's when writers run out of ideas. Yes.
Right. Or they have a creative team member will
leave, and they'll get fired, or something will
happen, and they'll go somewhere else. And then
they get some other writer schmuck that comes
in, and it's like, oh, this is where we're going
to go. And they're blowing up the whole thing.
Well, I think part of it is that they'll hire
these writers and people in charge who are not
invested in Star Trek or Star Wars or whatever
the IP is. They don't know. it well enough to
give it justice. They're giving up too much creative
freedom. Oh yeah, they're like, oh, this is Star
Trek. I'm going to make this crazy thing because
yay fun. And then the viewers are like, what
the hell, man? What are you doing? What are you
doing to my beloved series? And really, this
woke stuff really just ruined a ton of shows.
I think we're seeing less of it. Is it just me
being optimistic? I think you're being optimistic.
I think there's a lot of stuff that was already
baked and made. Maybe in a couple years. We'll
see some difference, but I think there's a lot
of shows that were already in process that we're
seeing right now because I still see, like there's
one, there was a show I wanted to watch and I
was looking at it and I was like, there's no
way I'm going to watch this. So I read about
New York Special Victims Unit. Right. Shelly
loves that show, right? And I read that one of
the ones that's coming out, they make Ice the
villains in the episode. Oh, yeah. They all do
that. FBI does that. Yep. All the cop shows,
they'll have these random libtard episodes. Right.
Yeah. And this one apparently has to do with
this illegal alien is willing to testify in court
against this guy that raped a woman or whatever.
And so they were really counting on him to be
there to, like, put this guy away. And they didn't
hear from him. And so they go and they check
on him. And he's being arrested by ICE. You know
what I mean? So they're trying to create this,
you know, ICE is the reason why, you know. This
rapist is getting free. Exactly. Exactly. And
they're good people. And they're just being,
they're kidnapping them. And I'm like, dude,
seriously? Viewers are going to see right, or
half of the viewers are going to see right through
that shit. I think more than half. Right. You
know, look, honestly, I feel bad for some of
these guys that have been here for a long time,
and they're just kind of baked into the United
States now, and they just feel like, and I get
it. They've been here for 15, 20 years. They've
got a career. They've got a family. You know,
I get it. Superintendent to a school. Yeah, superintendent
to a school. Dude, that is crazy, that story.
How would he get elected? Wouldn't there be some
kind of vetting or background check or something?
And they're saying, and the person. Before you
dive in, what exactly are you talking about?
Okay, so this is in Des Moines, the largest school
district in Des Moines, Iowa. The superintendent,
I guess, was an illegal alien. Ian Roberts. That
was already on ICE's radar or the Homeland whatever
radar because he skipped out on some hearing,
blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And so they went
to go arrest him. and he ran from them, and he
ran out of the car. It was a car chase, foot
race, foot chase, and then they got him, and
they found a loaded gun in his car. I mean, seriously,
crazy. Was it from Guyana? Yeah, and then he
was making $270 ,000 a year, and he's an illegal
alien. He was registered to vote as a Democrat.
How's he paying taxes? Right. How does he have
a Social Security to pay taxes? I don't know.
And he was registered to vote. In Maryland, right?
Yeah. I was told that never happened. Crazy.
Right. Exactly. And then the person who apparently
hired him said they had no idea. And apparently
she's part of some organization, even owns a
company, that has to do with illegal alien resettlement
or something. So, I mean, dude, come on. Obviously,
she had a hand in hiring this guy. you know,
to give him a break or whatever. But so that
job should have gone to an American citizen.
I don't care where you're from, what color you
are, whatever, but it should have gone to an
American citizen that was qualified to be a superintendent
of a school. And this guy was sitting in that
spot. So apparently. This school district sucks
nuts because they didn't do any checking. Roberts
did not hold a doctoral degree from Morgan State
University. Oh, he lied about that? Well, it
says academic credentials. After the arrest,
it all comes out. Oh, no shit. Now, when I got
hired to drive a bus, I went through a full background
check. Fingerprints, full nine yards. But you're
not black. Oh, wow. Well, is he? He is. What's
your point? I just thought I'd throw that in
there. So what I'm saying is the people who hired
him either really suck or they knew what was
going on. They knew. They had to have known.
He was probably a charismatic, you know, energetic,
talented guy. I was one of those people that
just, you know, they... He probably, like you
said, he gets along and very socially can get
in there. And they were just like, fuck it, man.
Oh, here's your credentials. That's great. Just
get them in there. Sign your paper here. How
do you get paid, though? That's a good point.
That's what I mean. How do you file your taxes?
So that Social Security doge went through all
the Social Security numbers. Is that wrong? Is
he using some dead person's Social Security number?
I don't know. I don't know. So regarding ICE
and shootings, because there's one in Dallas.
Oh, well, damn. That was pretty recent. You're
talking about the guy that shot at the... at
the ICE facility and ended up killing detainees
that were being transferred from the van. He
shot three and killed one. What a moron. He didn't
even shoot ICE. So that's why they're saying
that this was a right -winger. Yeah, but that
turned out to be wrong, too. But what happened,
it was either today or yesterday, but do you
remember Ice -T, the rapper? Yes. Okay, so he's
got a bus, and on the bus it says ICE. Oh, no.
Yeah, that was last week I saw that. They firebombed
his bus. Antifa did. I'm sorry. I shouldn't laugh.
They firebombed his bus because they thought
he was... That's how ignorant these people are.
That's how shockingly ignorant they are. He came
on later. He said it wasn't my bus. It was my
staff's bus. But, yeah, because he was in a different
city at the time. But yeah, they definitely saw
the ice on the side and said, hey, let's just
torch it because it says ice on it. Morons. Frickin'
ding -dongs. Well, so are they also doing that
to like ice trucks that are delivering bags of
ice to Kroger? Just because it says ice, you
think the actual ice is going to have a big truck
with ice on the side? Right. Beware ice cream
man. Oh, shit. Poor ice cream man. Damn it, Archer.
Well, these people are not the smartest. They're
stupid. They're stupid, ignorant people is what
they are. Unbelievable. Well, you know what?
They'll be faded out. Because they are. Trump
sending people in into Oregon. Oh, he declared
Antifa a domestic terrorist organization. That's
a big deal. Hell, man. They should have done
that the first term. I don't know. What is the
big deal? He should have done that the first
term. He's opening up the playbook now. He's
learning. He learned after his first term. Yeah.
So, I'm reading here, and this AI overview may
be wrong, but it is illegal to have a gun in
a car on a school premise. Yeah. Unless you have
a license to carry. And if you have a license
to carry, then you can have a handgun in your
locked vehicle. Is that in every state? That's
a license to carry of LTC in Texas. I seem to
remember that when I went through handgun training
and get my LTC that they said, you better keep
it in your car. And, you know, I mean, he's going
to know it's in your car, but. Yeah, the school
district will fire you if you bring a gun on
premise. Yeah. But I thought they were lightening
up on some of that stuff. No, I have a friend
who's, when they're the shooting down in Uvalde,
she actually brought a gun and she was a teacher
and it was a little one in her purse. And she
made the mistake of showing a co -teacher. Oh.
And ratted her out. The co -teacher ratted her
out, and she got fired. Right. You can't have
it on your person, for sure. I mean, the gray
area was whether or not you can have it in your
car. But I thought they were training a certain
batch of people. Those are the, yes, those are
the, I don't know what you call them, but the.
Men. Yes. But you have to be an ex -police officer
in order to become one of these. No, I mean,
they were training teachers. Designated carry
type of thing? No, they have a new position that
Frisco is going to be hiring. Wardens or something
like that, marshals or something like that, where
they're hiring specific people to be on campus
carrying a gun. That will work as a teacher?
No, they're not a teacher. Okay. This is a new
role that they are hiring. I think it may be
Texas. I thought they already had police officers.
But they're not at every school. Yeah, this is
an every school thing. This is at every school.
That's good. And you have to be an ex -police
officer, I believe. There's criteria. Ex -police
officer, I don't know if ex -military. I think
that's a great idea. Growing up overseas, they
had something called, his name was Friendly,
Officer Friendly, which was crazy because I thought
that was his real last name. And it may very
well have been, but he went back to the United
States. And sure enough, next week, a new officer
friendly showed up. But I thought it was such
a great idea. You're like, wow, all these brothers
from the friendly family. But I thought it was
such a good thing because he was there at the
cross guard area. And so all the kids and he
was like, you know, just friends with everybody.
And everyone wanted to be around him. And he
would hang out during recess. And he'd make sure
that, you know, he would go to all the corners
of the playground and see what all the kids are
doing. And, hey, you better be good today, Jimmy.
Don't be starting no fights, you know. I thought
it was great. You want to play with my pistol?
This one doesn't shoot bullets. Oh, boy. I didn't
go there. Whoa. Wow. No, but I thought it was
a great idea. Of course. Obviously, he's got
a role to play in high school and junior high,
but it was impressionable to me in elementary
school. It wasn't like this nefarious. They're
trying to create this drama. Police officers
are bad and ICE is bad. You want to instill in
children that police are the good guys. Come
on. That's ridiculous. What do you think about
this? Are we ready? I don't know. I was just
picking the bottle up. We can't talk about it
before we get to the very end. I don't even know
what time it is. Yeah, again, about 25 minutes.
So we can't talk about it. This is one that we've
had for a while, probably for a long time. Yeah,
it was a long time. And where did we get it?
This is a Total Wine one. We were buying a lot
of these. This is an Oak and Eden, which I don't
think they're in business anymore. Correct. Yeah.
And it was just recently, too. They said as of
September. That's too bad. They are closed. Yeah,
so they shut down. But they had a lot of different
flavors. This is the Wheat and Spire. And what
it is is they would buy, I guess it's MGP. I
didn't look at the back. But they would source
their product, and they would put an oak spire
in it. So hence the Wheat and Spire. And it would
continue to age some on your shelf. Because they
would get the MGP, you said, right? Correct.
Yeah, I guess. I don't know. I didn't look to
see where this was distilled. Yeah, but in concept,
it sounds like a good idea. And they actually
have, you go up there to the place and they have,
it's kind of like a pharmacy. Well, it's a distillery.
But they have kind of like a pharmacy area where
you have these flavors that you can put in your
bottle. Because you can make your own bottle.
And you put these aromas and stuff in there and
you pick out three, I think is what it is. It's
like Build -A -Bourbon. Yeah. And you basically
do that, and then they throw a spire in there,
and you take it home. You have a neat concept.
Because I picked up a bottle and brought it here,
and it was 118 proof, something like that. Yeah,
it was higher proof. And I thought it was good.
Yeah. And I got to tell you, this one, maybe
the spire, I think, was in there a little bit
too long. That's what I mean. This is dark. Sat
in there probably for four years, an extra four
years. Now, I think there's probably a lifespan
on how long that thing will actually age. I think
we got all the age out of it. Yeah, but it's
spent. I think it's super rich. It is. I'm really
enjoying it. The color's good. Well, good, because
I'm not, maybe I need to throw back a couple
of tastes here. I mean, it's only 90 proof, but
it's got good flavor for 90 proof. Oh, yeah.
Yeah. I'm enjoying the nose. I'm enjoying the
finish. I don't have any complaints about this
one at all. I pick up a lot of vanillas on this.
Yeah. A lot of vanilla. Cinnamon. Yeah, I'm a
big fan. I was afraid it was going to be too
oaky for me because sometimes if there's too
much oak, I don't care for it. It does taste
chunky. Yeah, it's thicker. But again, for 90
proof, I think the richness. says quite a bit
i think it rivals one it rivals 115 yeah i think
i think it's interesting i think the fact that
we sat on it for so long right it it uh benefited
it yeah yeah i don't know i'm back and forth
it's like i really like it i really don't think
it's good well i also pick up some on the very
back now that i you know maybe 30 seconds afterwards
i pick up some bitterness on the tongue that's
okay yeah that's the oak oh it is that's the
oak so Again, it's really good, but then I get
some bitterness that I'm not too wild about.
To me, the richness kind of flows over it. So
I have no complaints about this one. It's a French
oak spire. For those that oak and eat French
oak spire, 90 proof. Man, I'm back and forth.
Now I'm back on the like side. I mean, to me,
this is kind of like an espresso. Versus coffee.
It's strong. It's compact flavor. It's got a
punch to it. For being 45 % wheat, it's surprisingly
not sweet. Corn is sweet. Yeah. I think it has
something to do with that French oak spire that's
been sitting there for three and a half, four
years. For sure. You don't have a rating on this
from us, do you? No. From before, no, okay. Damn,
that's how old it is, huh? Yeah, this is one
of the first ones we got. Oh, that reminds me.
I need to write that down. Hold on a second.
So the last time I think we had one of these,
you and Sean and Paul did a little Lady and the
Tramp with the Spire. Oh, this is the night.
It's a beautiful night. I don't think so. Yes,
you did. You each got an end and started sucking
on it, and you're gazing at each other. Wow.
Is that back when we were doing cocaine on the
podcast? That's when we were doing four ounces.
Okay, well, I have no idea what happened in any
of those podcasts. You had your mouth on one
end. Oh, I did not. Sean, just stop. You did.
You're giving the listeners a horrible visual.
You did. And you're looking at each other, and
you've decided, wow, that's really gay, and you
stopped. Oh, do we? Yeah. Actually, we're good.
So we stopped. Sean recalls this. Of course he
did. It did happen. Sean's like, I don't want
to stop. Paul, come on. You were the one that
was like, deeper. I want more of it. I don't
think any of that happened. Fuck it. You can
have it. Jeez. You just started sucking on it.
Stop. God, Jeff. Slurping. Wow. So the oak and
Eden finished whiskey. Fire French oak wheat
and spire. Bourbon whiskey finished on French
oak spire. This was label batch number two, bottle
740. They J -Molga. Does it have a year on there?
This has to be like, we had to have bought this
bottle like in 20 or 21. I don't know. At the
time. The age up there for a similar type bottle
is two plus years, which means this spire puts
a lot to the color and flavor. So if it was two
years, that's probably a six -year bourbon at
this point. Right. Not really, but it's aged
some more. You know, a lot of people are doing
that now, right? We've talked about the Ambarana
staves. Right. I mean, I know they're not putting
spires in the bottle as much. And Big Mike and
Big Stick. Big Stick is. Big Stick is, yeah.
But I think a lot of them are doing staves in
the barrels. In the barrels themselves. I mean,
it's the same concept. Yep. It really is the
same concept. That's what Maker's Mark does.
Right. So, you know, we shouldn't knock them.
And I don't know why they went out of business.
I mean, obviously, their sales weren't as, you
know, where they needed to be. Maybe they expanded
a little too fast, maybe. They just weren't very
original. Yeah, but they didn't even invest in
a still. Right? This is all MGP. So, I mean.
You know, compared to like 1845 or other, you
know, or Garrison Brothers, I mean, they're distilling
their own stuff, which the capital outlay for
that is significant. Oh, yeah. Millions. Oh,
yeah. And they didn't do that. Well, I wonder
if it, because there's a lot of, well, the bourbon
industry, the market's going down. So the barrels
that they may have purchased may have been way
too expensive to try to recover, right? Maybe
they're, I'm just throwing a number out there.
Let's say a barrel cost. $100. Yep. And they're
like, I need to sell the bottle for $50 to make
a profit. Well, now the barrel to buy that same
juice is now $500. Yes. And I'm going to have
to sell my shit at $150 now, but no one's going
to buy it. Yeah, they were taking a loss on every
bottle. Probably taking a loss. I'm hoping that
things would turn around. So the talent was getting
thin. I mean, they've got a little attachment
to this bottle from Oak and Eden, O &E. They've
got one, two, three, four double golds at this
time. And then single golds, they got one, two,
three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten,
eleven golds. Yeah, so they were not like crappy.
No. They just gave too much competition. Yeah,
we liked them every time we got them. Yeah. The
community out here, we're just fickle. We're
just fickle because honestly, when we hit a wall,
we walk. We're just like, yeah, no, thank you.
When I buy my whiskeys, I want it finished already.
I mean, I didn't have an issue with the fact
that they finish it with Aspire. There's just
a lot of whiskeys out there. The market's saturated.
It is. You have so many options. And I think
what probably did it for us was the 90 proof,
to be honest. There was no point in us buying
another bottle of 90 proof when we have so many
110 plus that we love. Right. That's really what
it was. Now, I wonder if this is still on the
shelves anywhere. Can you still buy this? Like,
if we were like, man, I wish I could have another
bottle of that. I don't know. I wonder if this
is even on the shelf anymore at Total Wine. Maybe
not that specific one, but, you know. Think there's
some inventory left? Yeah, there's inventory
left. There was inventory last time we were there.
I'm sure they're out there. Maybe we ought to
revisit that. Maybe we ought to go out there
and take a look and see. Maybe we ought to pick
up a 115, 118 proof bottle because it's not horrible.
And just let it sit for years? For more years.
Well, I'm serious. I'm not going to say nasty
because that's not accurate, but it does have
a bitter aftertaste. That's what I'm getting.
I am loving this. I really am. When they're drinking
it, it's good. But I'm just saying like... A
minute later. Yeah, like a minute, two minutes
later, I'm like, there is an undertone of a burnt
tree. Yeah. You know? And I think that's the
oak. Maybe it's because it's French. It's French.
Damn French, yeah. Had it been like a normal
oak tree, not a French oak tree. Some French
fries. Damn, we shouldn't do anything French.
Shit, man. Why do we keep making that mistake?
I don't know. They let us down over and over
again, don't they? It is super sweet. You know,
I'm surprised. It is super sweet. I think that
the French oak that's in there, it's made, obviously
it's more woody, but the caramels that are popping
out, The spices are subtle, but they're there.
It's like a bouquet of equally, yeah, but they're
all, it doesn't pop, but they're there. I'm getting
apple pie on the nose. Oh. I think it's great.
I'm going to go hunting for another bottle of
this, high and low, to the ends of the earth,
now that there's no more left. Get on to Houston
and buy. Buy seven of them. Like we did with
Rebecca. Yeah. Are we ever going to drink those?
Are they so... I've got two bottles. Are they
so cherished that we're never going to touch
it? I think we have ours out there. We've got
a little bit left. I have one in a decanter that
I'm hoping isn't going to shit. And I have one
in an unopened bottle. Yeah. All right. I'm going
to rate this. He's asking for a rating. For it
being a 90 proof that has the richness of 115
proof, I'm going 7 .2. Wow. I'm not even close
to that. I know you're not. But that's how much
I like this. The bitterness, I mean, the sweet
up front is short -lived. The bitterness is very
long for me. I'm going to give this a four and
a half. Damn. That is a big difference. Yeah,
it is. And as much as I agree with Jeff, I also
agree with Paul. This is fantastic. I'm really
enjoying it. But I'm not a huge fan of 30 seconds
a minute later, man. You're going to split the
difference? It is a 7 .5 on the front end, but
it is a 3 .5 on the back end. So what's the midpoint
on that? Well, I mean, look, here's the thing.
If you're going to drink this, then you can't
wait. There is no 30 -second wait. No, you just
sip, sip, sip, sip until you're done. That way
you're only disappointed once. And by that point.
Right. So with that being said. Keep drinking.
It's going to suck if you stop. Keep going. Yeah.
Keep going. I'm going to do a 6 .8. All right.
I mean. That's about in between a little bit.
But it seems fair because it really has a fantastic
front end. It's just the back end is kind of.
It's just too short lived for me. It's really
good for a second. And then it's. It's too much
for me. I'm not a bitter fan at all. Like IPAs.
You like IPAs. I can't stand IPAs. Anything bitter,
I'm not a fan of. Yeah. So we went over to Scott
Cash's house a couple weeks ago. And I guess
it was just Chuck and I, right? Yeah, I went
to dinner with Julie and Stephen and Camden that
night. And then you were out of town. So what
Scott did. He had taken a bottle of Eagle Rare
and added a chunk of Ambarano wood to it, the
staves. And his tasted terrific. Terrific. Terrific.
And I did the same with a large batch of Weller's
Reserve. The green, right? The green. And it
was very good as opposed to terrific. I enjoy
drinking it. I'm going to have a glass when I
get home tonight, and I'm going to sip on it.
You could taste the Ambarano. You could taste
the sweetness. For some reason, the one Scott
had was a toasty, sweet, sweet flavor. I'm going
to try that with my bottle. Well, Eagle Rare
is 10 years, 10 -year -old whiskey. I don't know
what Special Reserve is. I don't know either.
I mean, it's different mash bills, too, so that's
going to play into it as well. But it was good.
Yeah, both are Buffalo trays, but I'm sure, I
don't know what the Eagle Rare Nashville is compared
to the Special Reserve, but it's going to play
into it. I bought two staves. Each stave does
about three gallons, and I think I split the
- I have a piece that may be out there. I need
to find out. I need to find a bottle to put it
in. Yeah, I took half mine and put it in a full
half gallon of Jim Beam just to see how that
would go. And we tried that, Chuck, right? You
can smell it. You can taste it. It's been in
there a week. But it's almost like putting lipstick
on a pig. Yeah, it was Jim Beam. It was Jim Beam
that had a little twinge of... Actually, not
a little twinge. I mean, you could taste the
Ambarano quite a bit. But it didn't improve the
Jim Beam if you're drinking it straight. You
never drink that straight. So that's what I would
recommend. If you're ever going to do a spire...
Make sure it's something you sip. Put it on something
you sip because you're not going to improve something
that's a mixer. You're not going to turn a mixer
into a sipper. I think I may get Old Grandad
114. There you go. And do it to that. That would
work. So grab one of those gallons down there
and just transfer in there because they'll stay,
unless you want to break it up in there. I guess
that'll work too. That's what I did. It wouldn't
fit, so I just broke it into pieces. Mine stayed
fit inside. And that actually worked really well.
Mine worked. Yeah, the Old Grandad has the big.
Deep in mouth. Oh, yeah. It has plenty of girth
to fit the bottle finish. The shaft of the stave.
Like you were saying, you suck right in. It's
not like the butt plug you were referring to
on one of the podcasts. The short, the video
short I said. Speaking of, how is the new video?
I have not been able to do it yet. So I brought
the, did I bring it? Yeah, you brought the hard
drive. Oh, but we didn't turn things on. We didn't
even turn things on. All right. I'll take it
with me, and I will definitely be doing it this
weekend. Well, I'm encouraged. I'm glad. What
were you going to say, Chuck? I was going to
say this weekend is Oktoberfest. Yeah. Saturday.
Is it October 4th this weekend? Is it the star?
The star, right? Is that Saturday the 4th? That's
right. At the star. Yep. Okay. By the way, these
things. These things go very quickly. What does?
So the last time I was taking the boys to an
event there at the Star, it obviously wasn't
Oktoberfest, but it was maybe St. Patrick's Day.
No, it was during the summer. What would that
have been? July 4th. Maybe. Anyway, they were
doing just like Frisco Oktoberfest. This is the
7th. No, no, no. It must have been last year's.
They were not letting any more people in. Really?
When I tried to drop the boys off and they had
to bail and go do something else. So if we're
going to go do this, I think we have to be early.
That's what I dislike about Frisco. I know. There's
too many fucking people. Too many fucking people.
I know. I know that. Let me tell you. We can
always go to, hey, look, we can skip it as much
as I don't want to. I mean, what are some other,
well. That's one of the last ones that's around,
really. What about the Addison one? That's already
done. That happens in September. The McKinney
one's already done. What the hell? October hasn't
happened yet. That's what I mean. They're September
Fest. They're September Fest, but they call them
October Fest. Well, that's stupid. Ooh, the brought
eating contest. Stein hosting contest. Yeah,
does anybody want to hold a Stein out in front
of them for, you know. Minutes after minutes?
What did they say? Hoisting. Hoisting. Were you
hoisting? I don't know. Well, you're hoisting
your arm up. You have to hold it up. It's like,
yeah, I appeal for the story. Hoisting. God damn.
It's like moist. Yeah, like that. Okay. All right.
Yes. Have you seen? I watched in downtown McKinney.
Our coffee shop used to be right in front of
the stage there, and they would have a lot of
the participants that showed up. during a particular
time were like the fire folks, fire marshals,
not the fire marshal, but the fire department
and the police department. And that was one of
the things they did. They'd go out there and
meet and they'd bring their big tough hive. I'm
Andre. And yeah, they have a contest between
the two of them. Well, there was like... 15,
20 guys up there. Yeah, but wasn't it police
against firefighters? Yes. I think it was. But,
you know, they were all up there is what it was.
And whoever, last man standing. Right. So it's
basically what it is. But it was this big fireman
and then a police guy. And I'm telling you, but
after a while, their hands start violently shaking.
Yeah, but they're holding it for quite a while.
They are. It's impressive. I would last like
a tenth of the time they do. Hoisting. So the
secret is you got to have like a four -foot straw.
So while you have your glass, your arm extended
with a large drink. And nobody knows you're drinking
it. Oh, you have it velcroed to your arm, and
you're just sipping it down. Or why don't you
come with an apparatus that comes up your thing.
You have long sleeves, so basically you're just
all supported. It's like wood. Like a little
hinged. I mean, you come walking out straight
armed. No, no, no, it's inflatable. So it gradually.
You're stomping on with your foot. Yeah, your
arm goes up. And then you're like, hey, what's
up, dudes? Yeah. And then everybody else is like,
oh, my God. And you're like, I'm good. I'm good.
Then it starts whistling like a balloon. Yeah.
Hey, take a guess as to what's the world record
for hoisting a stein. Ooh. In minutes? In minutes,
yeah. I'm going to go with 47 minutes. 47. I'll
say 28. Pretty close. 23 minutes, 40 seconds.
That sucker gets heavy. The women's right. That's
our men's national record. What? This is a, we
have a team. Hold on. The women holding, look
at the difference there. And you're trying to
tell me there's no such, there's no difference
between men and women. Women are, uh, under seven
minutes and men are under 24 minutes. Yeah. There's
no difference. I don't see any difference. It's
25%. I mean, I'm not good at math, but where
are you saying the discrepancy is? How much do,
does a, a Stein? What you're saying is you'd
be competitive in the women's division. Oh, hell
yeah. Seriously, dude. Six minutes and ten seconds.
The last event I went to where they had that,
they were, I think it was under five minutes.
So six minutes is something to be proud of. Regardless
whether you're a woman or a man. That's the next
thing we're going to hear in the news is a trans
dude that goes into the women's division and
destroys the record for Steinholding. Let's do
it. We should all just go wear dresses and go
play. I identify as a woman. Like Macho Man in
South Park. I can't tell you how free I feel
now that I've started identifying as a woman.
Now that I can compete as female, I'm ready to
smash the other girls. You were asking how heavy
is the stein. How heavy is the stein of beer?
It depends. Full of beer. I mean, if you have
a nice big plastic one, the plastic ones are
super lightweight. But if you get a big glass
one or the porcelain ones. There has to be an
official weight. Say hello to Duck AI. Duck AI.
I'd rather not. All right. So how heavy is the
official stein of the U .S. national team? Really?
What the hell, man? Is that an Olympic? No, it
can't be. I bet you it is, actually. All right.
Five pounds? Five pounds? That's a lot. Yeah.
I mean, for holding it out straight. I wouldn't
be able to do that. My shoulders are jacked.
Oh, yeah. I wouldn't be able to do that. Yeah,
my shoulders are not good. Now, keep in mind,
that's the Stein itself. A five -pound Stein.
Yeah, a full liter Oktoberfest beer Stein weighs
approximately five pounds. This weight comes
out from the Stein itself, which is about three
pounds. Oh, I misspoke. Oh, okay. Plus the liter
of beer, which is about 34 ounces. So it's just
under five. Yeah, about five pounds. Yeah, but
box are probably heavier than lagers. Okay. Just
kidding. A pound of feathers versus a pound of
concrete? Is that what you're going at? No, I'm
just saying the type of beer matters. It doesn't,
I know. What is Maastrugendstemmen? God. Where
are you reading that? It says official Steinholing
rules. There are many variations on the rules
of Steinholing and Maastrugendblagen. Wow. I
don't know what that is. What is that? Maastrug
is... See, they spelled it wrong, too. Maastrugstemmen.
Maastrugstemmen. Is that the same thing? Maybe
that's the German official term for it. I wonder
if anybody's ever torn their... The Maas or Maas
is the German word describing the amount of beer
in relationship in a regulation mug. In modern
times, exactly one liter. M -A, in German, which
this is the only language that has it, they have
a weird shaped B. It looks like a B, but the
bottom of the B doesn't touch. So it's basically
a three with a little leg that comes down. And
it's pronounced with a double S. Boss. Boss.
The S set. Oh, okay. So we didn't. We didn't
nail that, did we? No, you did not. What do you
mean you? You didn't either. You sound like an
idiot over there. So a moss krug is a stein.
And I guess the stamen is a... So walk us through
the Frisco thing again. I mean, what are the
hours of operation there? 11 to... 11 to 2. I
think 11 to 11. So we got to camp out the night
before. 11 to what? You said 2? I wonder when
they let you in. And I bet you they line up,
man. People in Frisco are ridiculous. They'll
line up hours beforehand. I know. I think if
you've been here for 20 plus years, you're allowed
to get in with fur. Yeah, we should be Oompa.
Oompa daddies. I think, yeah, you're right. If
you've been over here 20 years, which we all
have, we should get precedence. We should. Over
these noobs. And they should pick some other
people and be like, out. And we can show up whenever
we want to. I have a wheelchair. I have crutches.
I got a handicap placard. I wear hearing aids.
There's something there. I have an oxygen generator.
We all have CPAPs, right? Just wear your CPAP.
It's like a bad scene of Armageddon. Those guys
are the dudes like us podcasters. I'm like, I
can't hear you. You're deaf. Put your real big
ear Things in? Like big ear things? Yes. What
the hell? What are you talking about? Don't you
have some of those old -fashioned kind? Those
are so large. Can you pick up shit from a mile
away? Yeah, you got to tune in to radio stations.
And you know it's going to be all douchey there.
What do you mean? I don't know. It might be fun.
Frisco is douche. Dude, the last time I went
to that, it was so much fun. It was so much fun.
The one in Frisco? Yeah. Okay, well. It was so
much fun, but I mean, we got to get there early.
I'd like to go. We got to find out when they
open. I'd like to go, but we need to have a contingency.
You mean a backup plan? Yes. No, there's no backup
plan. Yeah, we go to a rail yard. No, the backup
plan is that we sit out there in the parking
lot until there's an opening, or we jump over
the fence. How do we know there's an opening?
You're going to have to stand in line. You're
going to jump over the fence, Jeff. I'll create
a diversion. We're going to pull a muscle. Okay,
I have cutters. We cannot climb fences anymore.
You know what? You're right. I have cutters.
This is an instantaneously bad idea. We're all
trying to climb a fence. Oh, fuck. And meanwhile,
there's three cops standing there going, guys,
what are you doing? Call the paramedics. Sorry,
we're just trying to get in. Yeah, you guys need
to leave. What are you, 12? Right. No, we're
in our 50s, man. Yeah. Like, oh, my bladder broke.
We're losing all the bourbon. I think if we're
there at 11, we'll be fine. Probably. We probably
would be. We'd be more than fine. And you know
what? Hopefully the weather's going to be fantastic.
I've got the Lederhosen ready to go. I think
we've got maybe some little neck fans that we
could be bringing in. We've got to bring a wagon
to haul some extra stuff. What? Can you bring
your own beer? I don't know. Vomit bag? Barf
bag? No, you cannot. Bladder? No, I mean, you
want the traditional stuff. I mean, hell, I'll
be shit -faced on one big beer. All right, so
we need to kind of look up the rules about what
you can and can't bring in and all that kind
of shit. But yes, all right, let's plan it. And
so we're talking about Saturday. We're talking
about getting there at 11. Shit, what time do
the Aggies play? 11. 2 .30. Oh, boy. So we have
11 to 2, three hours. Well, they might have it
on the big screen. Last time, we were watching
Alabama. get beat by somebody. And it was like
a crazy game where some underdog beat Alabama
and everybody was going nuts. At 2 o 'clock,
2 .30, we may be done. We may be like, I'm freaking
done. I mean, if it's anything like the Plano
Whiskey Fest, you know, we show up there. We're
drunk 30 minutes into it. Oh yeah, but that was
a power drinking hour. That was bad. Not even
an hour. That was like... Power drinking, 30
minutes. 15 minutes, we were all like... Well,
that's what happens when you go to a whiskey
sampling place for the very first time, and they're
handing you these... These samples, like you
get a total wine. And they're like, here you
go. There's four of them. Aren't they only allowed
to get one at a time? You get four right now.
Drink up. We got lines. This is 110. This is
108. This is 115. You are completely distorting
how it goes down. You walk up to the table and
like, would you like a sample of something? I
want all of them. Overflow them. It's basically
how it goes down. Yes. And then you're like,
more, more, more. Well, we were at that 1845.
Oh, actually, we didn't even make the 1845. No,
we didn't. It was like the last table. We did
not plan that very well. Octoberfest. We'll do
better. It's coming up around the corner, September
30th. Chuck, thanks for staying on top of shit.
Shout out to Oak and Eden. It's too bad. Too
bad they're going out of business, man. They
had a great product. I hope they reinvent the
wheel sometime. I wonder how many more are going
to go out of business. Probably a lot. Probably
a string of them over the next two years. Yeah,
you got Yellow Rose. That's going to be going
out of business probably. They've got Rebecca
Creek, which, you know, they're introducing some
new stuff. But they're running the coattails
of something kind of weak, man. Everyone's running
out of money. The Giant down in Houston. You
know, the Giant whiskey. Are they running into
troubles? You know, they're all running into
troubles. You know, it's just, you know, do we
see Giant? Do we buy Giant? The market's struggling.
We have giant out there. That's the yeast bomb
that we don't like. Paul likes it. I love it.
Life cereal. Yeah. Well, you know what? Maybe
we can revisit that sometime. All right. First
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it like that. Typical leftists. Yeah, because
Boeing can't get it done, so we had to borrow
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