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All right. It's the second half of the Dudes

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Like Us podcast. It's September 23rd, 2025. We've

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got two fantastic guests with us today. The first

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half, a shout -out to the Whistlepig Piggyback.

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Piggyback. A six -year, 100 -proof whiskey. Interesting.

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It wasn't horrible. It was good. Let's just settle

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with it was good. It's a good entry level. It's

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good entry level, but it is what it is. Listen

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to the first podcast, see what our ratings were.

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This podcast, we've got a new delight. We'll

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talk about it a little bit. This one's a little

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bit stronger. I have to say, I'm not a fan yet.

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Really? We'll have to see. It opens up for me.

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I had a good first impression. So, yeah, we'll

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see. Well, we've got a jam -packed second half

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of the first half. We've got a drink in us, so

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we're a little bit less inhibited now. We've

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got a full whiteboard of stuff to talk about.

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That reminded me of a joke Austin told me today

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about whiteboards, but we won't get into that.

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Dudes Like Us, I'm Sean. I'm Paul. And I'm Joe.

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And I'm Craig. And I'm Greg. Our producer, Mr.

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Chuck, back there behind the scenes keeping us

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all tame. Guys, welcome back for the second half.

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I'm glad you stuck around. I will bring up Craig

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and Greg. They've got the dinnercation .com.

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I recommend you guys hit that website. It's learning

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materials and just a path of success for your

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kids, just things that should have been. And

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it's fantastic, these little placemats that you

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have that you brought over here. What else do

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you have on there? Right now, that's where we're

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starting. Next is, so you start this with a kid

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that's anywhere from 7 to 12 years old. Then

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it's a rite of passage. Then it's intentional

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fatherhood through different points of meaning

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through culture, whether that be a good movie

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list to go over. Books to read. Books to read.

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Conversations to be had. Just be deliberate.

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Amen. Well, I think you nailed the age time frame

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because teenagers. Think you're stupid. And they're

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not going to listen to you, so you've got to

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get them early, is I think what you're saying,

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right? You get them before, they're like, Dad,

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you're stupid. You don't know anything. For those

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listeners out there, these are physical, tangible

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placemats. You know, all the parents that need

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these placemats, they're plastic, they clean

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very well. Are they dishwasher safe? I wouldn't

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try that. Yeah, but you know what? They're large

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placemats, and they have elegant aphorisms on

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them. Dinnercation .com, they talk about relationships.

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They talk about business, finance, and life.

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There's different well -organized... Prison and

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Taco Bell are full of people that never took

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guff off of no one. I want to know what your

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problem with Taco Bell is. You know, these dumb

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things that you get in your head when you're

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a kid of like, well, once I become an adult,

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I'm never going to have to take anything off

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of anybody. No. It doesn't matter if you're Elon

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Musk. Yeah, you just become more passive. It

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actually gets worse. Yeah, exactly. Exactly.

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It doesn't hurt if you have autism, too. So intentional,

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indirect teaching for your kids. It's on the

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dinner table, and it's there for them to read.

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You don't even have to really talk to them about

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it. It's there. They're looking at it. It's passive

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reading. They're going to look at it. I could

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have used number 13 a long time ago. Red flags

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don't look red when you have rose -colored glasses.

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Oh, my God. I think we all had that one crazy

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girlfriend that kind of swore you off of, well,

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maybe I should delve a little deeper. Yeah, maybe

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we get to know each other a little better. Yeah,

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exactly. But she does some really good things,

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right? Right. Where's those rose -colored glasses?

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I am stone quiet. So we got a lot of things to

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talk about. I mean, do we, let me see here. You

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know, what I had, sorry, in the last podcast,

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we were talking about diving into wellness. Yeah.

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Do you want to dip our toe in that? So absolutely.

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So that's something where, you know, I guess

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we're men. It's okay to talk about our age. I'm

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51 years old. And I just noticed that, you know,

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I'm not 22 anymore. I have to be intentional

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with my health. You know, we were talking about

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drinking at the end of the last podcast. I love

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a glass of wine. I really do. After a long day

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at work, just kind of relax a little bit. It's

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good for the heart. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Is it like

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in a pint glass? It's a Johnny Depp pint glass.

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That's how you can tell I went to a state university.

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It's balked wine, and I just chop a corner off

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and start chugging. Just unravel that bladder.

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Absolutely. I mean, it's a challenge sometimes,

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but you've got to want it. And then you start

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tracking your sleep and then you start looking

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at, oh man, I didn't get any sleep last night.

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And so it's really not relaxing you. And, you

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know, I don't want to demonize drinking. It's

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a social lubricant. I really do enjoy doing it.

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I still drink, but just not like I used to. And

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as far as the exercising goes, it's, you know,

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I'm not going into the gym and doing, you know,

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200 pound jerks anymore or squatting 400 pounds

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or anything like that. I got to keep strength.

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I've got to keep mobility up. And sometimes it's

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about helping out with some medications. Now,

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I have studied medications extensively. I'll

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say this. The pharmacy, the pharmacist world

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made a deal with the devil in the 1940s. And

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what happened was, is that the drug companies

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went to them and said, look, you guys aren't

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putting out a consistent product. Now, keep in

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mind, back then, if you were putting out 20,

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30 prescriptions a day. you were really busy.

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You were compounding it yourself. Yes, compounding.

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Yeah. If they do 20, 30 prescriptions a day now,

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they're going out of business, like in a week.

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So the drug companies went to them back then

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and said, look, we're going to put out a consistent

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product. You're going to verify it. You're going

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to make sure that it's a valid prescription.

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We're going to move on down the road. Well, come

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to the point that we are now, everything's run

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by insurance companies and everything's run by

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the drug companies. And the dirty secret that

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people don't talk about is, is that all those

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medications that they're charging you out the

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wazoo for were developed with your tax dollars

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to the NIH. So where I went to school at Texas

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Tech, you have the pharmacy program and then

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you have the pharmaceutical sciences program.

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We take much the same classes at the same time.

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Those guys are all looking to make a blockbuster

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drug and billions and billions. Yeah. Yeah. Like,

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you know, a half a percent of a billion dollar

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drugs is a lot of money. Yep. So that's what

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they're all trying to do. And but all of the

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kind of starters that they're starting with.

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all come from your tax dollars with the NIH,

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and then they divvy them up. And then you have

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this incestuous relationship with the FDA, the

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NIH, and these drug manufacturers where they're

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just hopping from place to place. It's all the

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same people that are making the regulations,

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that are making the drugs. Like Fauci. Yeah,

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exactly. So the turning point that we see going

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on right now are peptides. We all have peptides

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within us. And what a peptide is, is that you

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have a short chain of amino acids. Insulin is

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a peptide. Okay. But this came out about 20 years

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ago. Yeah. So they call it lizard spit. So the

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Gila monster, when they bite something, they

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have a chemical in their spit that's a GLP -1

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agonist. And that's... Now you have semaglutide,

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terzepatide, those kind of things, which gives

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you satiety, which is making you feel full and

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that kind of thing. And that's where all your

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ozempics come from. That's where manjaro, those

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kind of things come from. These things are hitting

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the market like an atom bomb. And that's just

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the tip of the iceberg. It's the new Viagra.

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It is. It really, really is. Because unfortunately,

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as Americans, most of us are overweight. But

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there's also a lot of anti -inflammatory stuff.

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BPC -157, TB -500. Most of these are injections.

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However, we're seeing a lot more, a lot less

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inflammation rather. We're seeing really good.

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outcomes coming from these. So they're not harmful.

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This isn't a bad thing. They're not harmful.

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These are literal strands of the amino acid chain.

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So they're taking, you have roughly 150 different

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chains along the amino strands and they're literally

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picking out different points within the amino

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chain and then creating... And this is also stuff

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that you already have in your body. It's all

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natural. Yeah, that your body is usually signaling.

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Yeah. And what's happening is, is that these

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compounding pharmacies are making it and distributing

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it to the patients, dispensing it. Now you have

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to have a physician that knows what they're doing.

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I'll be honest with you. Like they didn't train

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us on this in pharmacy school. It's too new.

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So the physician that you're going to, unless

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they're really staying on top of things, they

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probably don't know about them. So you'll have

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to do your own research and you might have to

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educate your physician about how to prescribe

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these, what to look for, those kinds of things.

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they all know about ozempic that that's a peptide

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but um you know all the others there's so many

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out there and it's such cutting edge and it's

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big pharma's not in charge of it so it's a lot

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less expensive they're not liking that at all

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yes and it's a lot more and this is a billion

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dollar trillion dollar yeah yeah so potential

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the uh when trump got elected and he brought

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in rfk jr We have to change our diet the way

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that we're processing and making foods in this

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country. But we also have to reform the drug

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companies. And you talk about big money, incestuous,

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well implanted in D .C. RFK Jr. doesn't care.

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He's going in there like a wrecking ball. And

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I love him for it. And he doesn't care if everybody

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hates him. They're getting kickbacks on all this.

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Oh, my God. It's going to be so bad. I mean.

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Look, there's a lot of fights out there. There's

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so many different things to talk about. You know,

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this is why I was so excited. Historically, I

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voted libertarian, but I voted for Trump. And

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it was for the Elon Musk coming in there and

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getting with the wage fraud. Yeah, all that stuff.

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This is an exciting. It's an inflection point

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in our nation's history. Wow. And this is coming

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from a pharmacist here. Yes. Do you think there's

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enough time on the runway to get some of the

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stuff done, though? Only got four years. That's

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a good question. Because, I mean, it's obviously

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going to be a very heavy fight. You have a major

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pharmaceutical, big money. Oh, yeah. They're

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coming after him. Or are they just going to hold

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tight and go, you're gone in three years? Potentially.

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Are they going to sue the pants off of everybody

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and just wait until you get the next regime in?

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We don't know. It's too soon to tell. But I can

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say it's very exciting. Oh, yeah. Hopefully we

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can turn this around. Hopefully, people will

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say, you know what? Objectively, I can see what's

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happened in the past, let's just say 25 years,

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and say, you know what? We need to make a change.

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We've got to get our health in check. We've got

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to get our FDA in check. We've got to get all

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these processes back in check, unraveled, and

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let's move forward. And truly fighting for us.

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We've done this for our health. We did this at

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the turn of the last century, you know, when

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they were doing all that trust busting and getting

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rid of monopolies. It was a fight. It was tough

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back then. It's going to be tough now. But as

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Americans, we should have the willpower to say,

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I'm going to stand up to this. I'm not going

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to take this anymore. And if for nothing else,

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think of your kids for the love of God. All right,

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so you've got two things going on. You're talking

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about the apparatus, right? The deep state of

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drug, right? That's what you've got going on.

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But then you were talking about peptides and

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the exciting potential of peptides. So you're

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saying that if administered appropriately, they

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could... They have great health benefits. Well,

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we're talking about naturally occurring things

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that are already going on within the body. Correct.

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This is not new science. This is old science.

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So what happened when you were - Give us some

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different flavors of peptides. Okay, so you're

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18 years old, you twist your ankle, and your

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body goes straight back into soft tissue repair.

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You're 50 years old, you twist your ankle, your

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body does - It just goes, whatever, dude. Yeah,

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it's like - Yum, yum. You shouldn't have done

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that, okay? Here's how I'm going to punish you

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for that. So, yeah, you can start taking like

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the BPC -157. It's one that I really like right

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now. And I bring it up just because my wife sprained

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her ankle. And so I gave her. And that's something

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you need a prescription for. Here's the funny

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thing about that. Technically, you do not need

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a prescription for most of the peptides that

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are out there. If you're going to be getting

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Terzepatide, which is Manjaro. If you're going

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to be getting semaglutide, which is ozempic,

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yes, you're going to need a prescription for

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those. I recommend that you still talk to your

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doctor about these things. Don't go super rogue

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here. Yeah. As with anything, people will see

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it as a panacea. They're going to get it from

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some Chinese place or Mexican place that it's

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made in a bathtub. But I can't go to you and

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buy it. You couldn't go to your Walgreens and

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get it. You can go to a compounding pharmacy

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and get it. Are those local? They are. Downtown

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Frisco. So what he was talking about, BPC -157,

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is body protective compound. And that's going

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to be the amino chains number 1, 5, and 7. That's

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why they call it BPC -157. And what that is,

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is the amino that stimulates the mitochondrial

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cell regeneration. Over our age, as we start

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to age more, our mitochondrial cells regenerate

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at a slower rate. That's why we need longer periods

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of rest. That's why we have more pain when we

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do. That's one of the symptoms of aging. And

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now, while BPC -157 is not an anti -aging method

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for biohacking, it is a part of the amino chain

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that has to do with the recovery of the mitochondrial

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cells. It's indicative of being younger. Well,

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it's an indicative of healing and recovering.

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Right. So it's nicknamed the Wolverine drug because

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it stimulates that cellular regeneration. Nice.

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It's a part of it. There's other things that

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are part of that too. Right. But that's one of

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them. And is this man -made or is this a natural

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compound? Okay. It's so synthetic up there. No,

00:15:17.090 --> 00:15:20.509
it's compounded. It's synthetic. Yeah, so it

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comes in a lyophilized powder, basically, and

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then they'll reconstitute it. So you can do that

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yourself. You can order it. There's a couple

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of reputable sites. I would recommend going to

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your local compounding pharmacy. There's a great

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place called Tower Medic in Fort Worth that does

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this. There's also like GHKCU. There's peptide

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sciences online. There's blue sky sciences. There's

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quite a few reputable ones. A lot of them are

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out of Florida. Florida has more compound pharmacies

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per capita, I think, than anywhere in the world.

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There's a ton of - Lots of old folk down there.

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Yeah. There's a lot of online companies. And

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how they sell them is they sell them as - is

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for research purposes only. So you can get on

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and you can buy them, but they're labeled for

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research purposes only. So you're not getting

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them through prescription. But I'm testing that

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on my body. Essentially, yeah. That works for

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me. You get it in a vial. It comes in a powdered

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form. Yeah. And you basically get saline water.

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And mix it. You mix it in there and then you

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do a draw and then a subcutaneous injection.

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So you're just putting it under. You got the

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very small needle. In your stomach. You grab

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rolls of fat and you put it underneath the epidermis.

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He and I can't find any. I've always struggled

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with that. You got to inject this? Yeah, subcutaneous

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is still the best way to... There are a couple

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of topicals, but... And what about your butt?

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Is that a good place, your butt cheek? No. That's

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intramuscular. That's a different topic. It won't

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get far enough. If you're going to do TRT, testosterone

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replacement therapy, for guys our age, I think

00:16:56.269 --> 00:16:59.509
it's great. But yeah, that's a big old I am needle.

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Intramuscular needle. We all do it. I don't do

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it anymore. I did it for a little over a year,

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and I stopped doing it. I feel after I stopped

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taking it like I've lost a little vigor, but

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I still get it up. But, you know, I mean, my

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wife was kind of, she had concerns. She was like,

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I don't know about you. You should get off of

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that. And I was like, no, I haven't had a problem

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with that. But, you know, for me, it was more

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I just wanted to kind of curb the medicines I

00:17:29.509 --> 00:17:32.089
was taking about the blood pressure. So I was

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like, you know what? If this testosterone is

00:17:33.690 --> 00:17:36.230
making my points go up 10 to 15 to 20 points,

00:17:37.150 --> 00:17:39.369
you know, maybe I need to think about this. What's

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worth more, taking the testosterone and the blood

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pressure medicine, or should I get off the testosterone?

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And part of the blood pressure medicine, you

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know, that, that was kind of the, what, what,

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what I did. Yeah. That's what got me started.

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Yeah. Was my blood pressure. And I got. It made

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your blood pressure better? No, I, I have high

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blood pressure. I've always had it. And it's

00:18:03.980 --> 00:18:07.259
become more of a factor in my, in my age. Right.

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And so part of what. You know, I was talking

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earlier about how I had stopped drinking and

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it kind of goes back to what happened where I

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was, you know, high stress job. I was not taking

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care of my health. I wasn't dieting right. I

00:18:21.589 --> 00:18:24.690
wasn't exercising at all. Any excuse got in the

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way of doing it. And I just, it wasn't something

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I had, I was putting any kind of effort towards.

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And I started to feel that stress coming onto

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my body. And I went to a doctor and I found a

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doctor that specializes in longevity and wellness.

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And I found a DO. Let me briefly tell you about

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the differences between an MD and a DO. I know

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what a DO is. We all went to one for quite a

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few years. Yeah, tell us what that is. So the

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DOs go to osteopath college. And an osteopath

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college is different than medical school in the

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methodology of their teaching. A medical school

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is a pharmaceutical -based, problem -solving

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medical education. Osteopath college includes

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pharmaceutical, nutrition. uh, diet and exercise.

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They, they're, they take a little bit of what

00:19:07.700 --> 00:19:09.640
you might call holistic approach. They take more

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than just the pharmaceutical picture. And so

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they're more focused on, uh, you know, identifying

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and preventing problems while medical doctors

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address solving problems that are already in

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effect. Treating symptoms. So I found, you know,

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I found a doctor who was a DO and he specialized

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in wellness and I went to go see him and I'm

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like, listen, my health is terrible. I know it's

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not. in a good position. My heart rate's high.

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I'm feeling the stress. I'm not taking care of

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myself. I want you to run the full test on me

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and tell me anything that might be potentially

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going wrong with me and how I can get dialed

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in and get my health to where I live a long functional

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life. And he was able to run a series of blood

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tests on me. He put me through a calcium score

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test, which is a CT scan where they basically

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put you in a CAT scan, and they CT you from soup

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to nuts. Yep. They measure everything. They look

00:20:01.910 --> 00:20:04.230
at all of your internal organs, all of your arteries.

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They measure the thickness of your arteries,

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and then they give you a score of how much plaque

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buildup is going on. Yes. So he looked at all

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this information and sat down with me in my follow

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-up visit and said, okay, here's what's going

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on. Yeah, you've got habitual chronic high blood

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pressure. You've got a thickening of the arteries

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already going on. You're developing early stages

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of hypertension. And then he told me what my

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mortality rate was and a timeline of when I can

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expect that to happen. So he literally sat there

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and told me when I'm going to die and what I'm

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going to die of. Yeah, you're like, thanks, doc.

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Well, it was a very sobering moment. Yeah, I

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bet. You know, I've got four kids. I want to

00:20:41.029 --> 00:20:44.009
be able to see them all grow up. And that was

00:20:44.009 --> 00:20:47.609
not leading to reaching that goal. And so it

00:20:47.609 --> 00:20:50.430
scared the crap out of me. And so I just said,

00:20:50.509 --> 00:20:54.500
hey. I'm committed. Get me dialed in. And so

00:20:54.500 --> 00:20:58.099
my doctor basically lined up all the data and

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said, okay, here's what's, he pointed out different

00:21:00.599 --> 00:21:02.160
points and said, this is what we got to tweak

00:21:02.160 --> 00:21:03.799
on the data points. And then here's what I want

00:21:03.799 --> 00:21:07.240
you to change for him. And, you know, big component

00:21:07.240 --> 00:21:10.900
of it was sleep. A big component of it was, you

00:21:10.900 --> 00:21:13.980
know, exercise. He put me on high blood pressure

00:21:13.980 --> 00:21:17.099
medicine, but he really emphasized the cardio

00:21:17.099 --> 00:21:21.700
training on it. He wasn't a big fan of the blood

00:21:21.700 --> 00:21:24.299
pressure meds. It was more of an anecdotal for

00:21:24.299 --> 00:21:27.539
a severe situation. He wanted to advocate more

00:21:27.539 --> 00:21:32.980
of doing VO2 max training, which is VO2 max is

00:21:32.980 --> 00:21:35.940
a way to measure the efficiencies of oxygen delivering

00:21:35.940 --> 00:21:39.299
to your muscles. It's a good way to gauge how

00:21:39.299 --> 00:21:41.859
good your cardiovascular system is. There's another

00:21:41.859 --> 00:21:45.950
way to do it by measuring what you're... A variable

00:21:45.950 --> 00:21:47.809
heart rate is, and your variable heart rate is

00:21:47.809 --> 00:21:49.630
basically the pause in between your systolic

00:21:49.630 --> 00:21:52.750
and your diastolic pumping your heart. The pause

00:21:52.750 --> 00:21:55.049
in between them, the longer that pause, it indicates

00:21:55.049 --> 00:21:58.269
more of an efficient cardiovascular system. And

00:21:58.269 --> 00:22:00.329
then you measure how much oxygen goes from your

00:22:00.329 --> 00:22:02.150
lungs to your muscles and how efficient that

00:22:02.150 --> 00:22:06.089
is. And that gives you a score too. So historically,

00:22:06.210 --> 00:22:08.430
you would go to a kinesiologist and they would

00:22:08.430 --> 00:22:10.009
measure all the stuff for you during an exercise

00:22:10.009 --> 00:22:12.890
program. Hook you up to oxygen, breathing mass.

00:22:13.740 --> 00:22:15.400
put you on a treadmill, have sensors all over

00:22:15.400 --> 00:22:17.119
your body. You don't have a computer to measure

00:22:17.119 --> 00:22:20.480
it. Now we've got them in fitness trackers. And

00:22:20.480 --> 00:22:23.539
so I bought a fitness tracker, not to plug this

00:22:23.539 --> 00:22:26.019
one particularly, but I tried various ones. I

00:22:26.019 --> 00:22:28.640
did the Apple Watch. I did the Fitbit. And then

00:22:28.640 --> 00:22:31.359
I found a company called Whoop. And theirs is

00:22:31.359 --> 00:22:33.700
more geared towards the fitness enthusiast. So

00:22:33.700 --> 00:22:35.299
they've got more data points that they measure

00:22:35.299 --> 00:22:37.200
on theirs, a little bit more on the pricing point.

00:22:37.259 --> 00:22:39.319
It wasn't too bad. It's like 350 bucks a year.

00:22:39.599 --> 00:22:43.890
So I bought that. And I started, right off the

00:22:43.890 --> 00:22:46.250
bat measuring my sleep because he wanted me to

00:22:46.250 --> 00:22:48.390
start measuring it so i started measuring my

00:22:48.390 --> 00:22:50.730
sleep to see what i was getting and what i noticed

00:22:50.730 --> 00:22:54.450
was very consistently as i was in a sleep deficit

00:22:54.450 --> 00:22:57.509
i was not getting enough deep and rem sleep and

00:22:57.509 --> 00:23:01.269
so he wanted me to immediately turn that around

00:23:01.269 --> 00:23:04.049
like you got to have more sleep and that has

00:23:04.049 --> 00:23:07.269
a whole list of things from mitochondrial cell

00:23:07.269 --> 00:23:11.130
regeneration yeah that's how your body heals

00:23:11.130 --> 00:23:16.200
cognitive A long list. And so then I dove into,

00:23:16.279 --> 00:23:20.799
okay, how do I increase my sleep? More bourbon.

00:23:23.559 --> 00:23:26.740
Well, yeah, maybe I'm off the market. Yeah, you

00:23:26.740 --> 00:23:29.119
might be a little off. Do you sleep well, though?

00:23:29.200 --> 00:23:31.400
I mean, do you have any issues? Do you snore

00:23:31.400 --> 00:23:34.900
loud? No, but alcohol was one. Because alcohol,

00:23:34.960 --> 00:23:38.539
it prevents you from getting into that deep REM

00:23:38.539 --> 00:23:41.119
sleep. And then it releases a toxin within your

00:23:41.119 --> 00:23:43.299
blood system, too. So when you're trying to clean

00:23:43.299 --> 00:23:48.019
up the inside, the alcohol is a big inhibitor

00:23:48.019 --> 00:23:50.559
there. There's also what does the alcohol do

00:23:50.559 --> 00:23:53.039
to your intestinal flora? So if you don't know,

00:23:53.119 --> 00:23:55.920
like if you're at a clean hood doing compounding

00:23:55.920 --> 00:23:59.680
and stuff in a pharmacy, in order to kill all

00:23:59.680 --> 00:24:03.460
the bacteria, you use isopropyl alcohol. So when

00:24:03.460 --> 00:24:06.759
you drink that alcohol, you... You're running

00:24:06.759 --> 00:24:09.640
all your intestinal flora, the bacteria, the

00:24:09.640 --> 00:24:12.099
good bacteria in your body, you're running it

00:24:12.099 --> 00:24:14.279
through the gauntlet and you're killing off a

00:24:14.279 --> 00:24:17.480
bunch of the stuff that your body needs in order

00:24:17.480 --> 00:24:19.460
to properly digest the good food that you're

00:24:19.460 --> 00:24:21.500
eating. Well, it was fun to have you guys. We're

00:24:21.500 --> 00:24:25.099
going to wrap this up and maybe next time. Maybe

00:24:25.099 --> 00:24:29.019
not. So how long, let's say I have a bender tonight.

00:24:29.259 --> 00:24:32.920
Yeah. How long is it going to take my gut? To

00:24:32.920 --> 00:24:35.720
repair. I mean, to get those positive bacteria

00:24:35.720 --> 00:24:37.880
back in there. What are you eating? You're eating

00:24:37.880 --> 00:24:41.200
fish. Eating or drinking? I was talking about

00:24:41.200 --> 00:24:43.619
drinking when it kills it. Yeah, well, it depends

00:24:43.619 --> 00:24:46.599
on how you're going to recolonize it. Like, if

00:24:46.599 --> 00:24:49.619
you're eating some Greek yogurt once a day, that

00:24:49.619 --> 00:24:51.960
is fantastic for recolonizing your intestinal

00:24:51.960 --> 00:24:55.250
flora. I hate yogurt. You got kimchi. What else

00:24:55.250 --> 00:24:57.230
is there? Other fermented foods like kimchi.

00:24:57.529 --> 00:25:00.430
That's good information. Sauerkraut. Spam. Absolutely,

00:25:00.670 --> 00:25:03.710
yeah. Not spam. Spam from fermented. Lots of

00:25:03.710 --> 00:25:07.069
sodium if you're low on sodium. So is this like

00:25:07.069 --> 00:25:10.329
the pickled normal sauerkraut we get? Yeah, sauerkraut

00:25:10.329 --> 00:25:13.069
is a fermented food. What about pig's feet? I

00:25:13.069 --> 00:25:15.829
love sauerkraut. I don't think I ever got pig's

00:25:15.829 --> 00:25:17.430
feet. Pickled is not what we're looking for.

00:25:17.450 --> 00:25:20.079
We're looking for fermented. You really got to

00:25:20.079 --> 00:25:22.240
dig into that jar to get that pig foot at the

00:25:22.240 --> 00:25:24.720
bottom. Yeah. Like with a nail in it or something.

00:25:24.920 --> 00:25:28.240
There you go. There you go. Good Lord. Yeah.

00:25:28.319 --> 00:25:31.519
So to repopulate. You want to recolonize, yeah.

00:25:31.859 --> 00:25:34.400
Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's fermented food. I've had

00:25:34.400 --> 00:25:37.680
the kefir before. That's actually like a, you

00:25:37.680 --> 00:25:39.940
drink it, it's actually a tingles on your tongue.

00:25:40.059 --> 00:25:42.720
I can do cheese. So we're looking at a list of

00:25:42.720 --> 00:25:45.039
fermented foods. So apple cider vinegars is good,

00:25:45.140 --> 00:25:47.019
right? Oh yeah, that's a big one. As far as cheese

00:25:47.019 --> 00:25:49.940
goes, you want the hard cheeses, by the way.

00:25:49.980 --> 00:25:52.980
I see meat on there. What's a hard cheese? Like

00:25:52.980 --> 00:25:56.299
a cheddar. I see beer. I see beer and meat and

00:25:56.299 --> 00:25:58.779
cheese. Well, I would say that's fermented, but

00:25:58.779 --> 00:26:01.039
it's not going to produce the gut biome that

00:26:01.039 --> 00:26:04.259
you need. Right. And to his point, that gut biome

00:26:04.259 --> 00:26:07.079
is extremely important with a lot of things.

00:26:07.140 --> 00:26:10.000
I mean, your gut health, having the correct balance

00:26:10.000 --> 00:26:12.759
of biome in there is huge. The largest nerve

00:26:12.759 --> 00:26:15.500
in your body is called the vagus nerve. It runs

00:26:15.500 --> 00:26:19.200
your brain. It also runs your gut. So, like,

00:26:19.200 --> 00:26:24.619
if you take Ondansantron, which is for nausea.

00:26:24.970 --> 00:26:28.009
that regulates the serotonin system in your body,

00:26:28.130 --> 00:26:32.230
in your gut. But it also regulates the serotonin

00:26:32.230 --> 00:26:35.529
system in your head. And how do bacteria communicate

00:26:35.529 --> 00:26:39.750
with each other? Dopamine, serotonin. All the

00:26:39.750 --> 00:26:43.230
neurotransmitters. All the stuff that makes you

00:26:43.230 --> 00:26:46.910
mentally happy and healthy. Your bacteria use

00:26:46.910 --> 00:26:50.170
the same thing. And look, I don't mean to dog

00:26:50.170 --> 00:26:53.430
on drinking. Well, drinking's horrible for you.

00:26:53.880 --> 00:26:56.220
And we know that. We know that. It's a social

00:26:56.220 --> 00:27:00.619
lubricant. It's relaxing. It's enjoyable. Look,

00:27:00.759 --> 00:27:02.880
you got to do it in moderation. I don't think

00:27:02.880 --> 00:27:04.940
you guys are going hard in the paint every night.

00:27:05.480 --> 00:27:08.980
No. In fact, the goal for me personally is two

00:27:08.980 --> 00:27:11.980
nights. Yeah. You know, and that's tonight. And

00:27:11.980 --> 00:27:14.619
then we try to pick one night a week. Yeah. You

00:27:14.619 --> 00:27:16.700
know, that's usually the thing. And then, you

00:27:16.700 --> 00:27:19.579
know, we go out and we shop Fridays. So, you

00:27:19.579 --> 00:27:22.430
know, for me personally. I get a little saucy,

00:27:22.430 --> 00:27:25.470
but I get saucy on a couple drinks. Yeah, but

00:27:25.470 --> 00:27:26.789
you also don't want to be the guy at the dinner

00:27:26.789 --> 00:27:29.089
party that's like, did I mention that I stopped

00:27:29.089 --> 00:27:30.710
drinking and that I'm better than all of you?

00:27:33.519 --> 00:27:35.140
You won't be invited to dinner parties after

00:27:35.140 --> 00:27:37.200
that, and that is also not mentally healthy.

00:27:37.420 --> 00:27:40.940
You could talk about your gut biome. Yeah, exactly.

00:27:41.579 --> 00:27:44.920
I'm protecting my flora. Yes, yes. So fuck you.

00:27:45.160 --> 00:27:47.440
I'm not saying that I'm mentally or morally superior

00:27:47.440 --> 00:27:49.460
to all of you, but I think it's there. I'll just

00:27:49.460 --> 00:27:51.599
pull out some sauerkraut and start eating. There

00:27:51.599 --> 00:27:54.079
you go. Alcohol. Yeah, you bring your own container

00:27:54.079 --> 00:27:56.619
of sauerkraut everywhere you go. You're going

00:27:56.619 --> 00:27:59.079
to be really cool, Jeff. Talk about a conversation

00:27:59.079 --> 00:28:01.359
starter. Have you hung out with the sauerkraut

00:28:01.359 --> 00:28:03.519
guy? She smelled like a bitch. barnyard animal

00:28:03.519 --> 00:28:06.880
so alcohol is great it's a lot of fun yeah and

00:28:06.880 --> 00:28:09.819
i really love it yeah but on the biological level

00:28:09.819 --> 00:28:12.940
though it does age you so you are speeding up

00:28:12.940 --> 00:28:16.220
the aging process and for me personally i'm trying

00:28:16.220 --> 00:28:19.759
to slow down the hours of the sand that's going

00:28:19.759 --> 00:28:21.900
through the hourglass because i've lost so much

00:28:21.900 --> 00:28:24.359
already i feel from the lifestyle i've had in

00:28:24.359 --> 00:28:26.380
the last 15 years so i'm trying to turn that

00:28:26.380 --> 00:28:28.559
around and i'm going yeah i'm going heavy in

00:28:28.559 --> 00:28:30.519
the paint with this and i'm not saying everybody

00:28:30.519 --> 00:28:32.259
else should do the same and i don't judge anybody

00:28:32.259 --> 00:28:34.539
for anything different this is what i'm doing

00:28:34.539 --> 00:28:36.660
to try to reach a goal it's a personal choice

00:28:36.660 --> 00:28:40.480
it's all right to go and have a drink or two

00:28:40.480 --> 00:28:44.720
or even get blown up once a year twice a year.

00:28:45.099 --> 00:28:47.460
Whatever you want to justify it as, I guess.

00:28:47.720 --> 00:28:50.119
If it's a lifestyle to not drink, then that's

00:28:50.119 --> 00:28:52.819
a lifestyle. The bigger picture is what's your

00:28:52.819 --> 00:28:55.359
habits? Are you eating clean? Are you exercising?

00:28:56.099 --> 00:28:58.640
Seriously, if you look at the big numbers of

00:28:58.640 --> 00:29:02.440
things, if you walk 30 minutes most days of the

00:29:02.440 --> 00:29:04.700
week, you're doing really well. You're doing

00:29:04.700 --> 00:29:07.039
way better than most of the Americans that are

00:29:07.039 --> 00:29:12.019
out there. Which is sad to hear that. Does my

00:29:12.019 --> 00:29:16.640
inside trampoline count? Can I tell you about

00:29:16.640 --> 00:29:18.839
the trampoline? Hold on, you had to add man size

00:29:18.839 --> 00:29:23.000
to that? I'm going to see what that looks like.

00:29:23.160 --> 00:29:27.819
It matches my stomach nerve. So if you, like,

00:29:28.079 --> 00:29:30.740
I wake up every morning, I walk my dogs, I get

00:29:30.740 --> 00:29:33.039
that morning light right into my eyes to keep

00:29:33.039 --> 00:29:35.519
the cortisol low so I don't have a lot of inflammation,

00:29:35.619 --> 00:29:38.819
get the heart rate up to start the day, you know,

00:29:38.839 --> 00:29:42.359
on an empty stomach. I'm not starting every morning

00:29:42.359 --> 00:29:45.259
by going Arnold Schwarzenegger in the gym. Right.

00:29:45.640 --> 00:29:48.259
First off, that's not sustainable for me. Not

00:29:48.259 --> 00:29:51.420
for me. Yeah, exactly. All your joints are going

00:29:51.420 --> 00:29:53.220
to just like disintegrate. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:29:53.319 --> 00:29:56.079
Yeah, but the spectrum of light has a big effect

00:29:56.079 --> 00:29:58.559
on your body and how your circadian rhythm is

00:29:58.559 --> 00:30:02.839
in place. And there's even a lot of study to

00:30:02.839 --> 00:30:04.779
show how that works psychologically. And they

00:30:04.779 --> 00:30:07.440
can pinpoint to studies of people that commit

00:30:07.440 --> 00:30:11.559
suicide, how they've had. had a red light deficit

00:30:11.559 --> 00:30:13.539
and an orange light deficit. They've been surrounded

00:30:13.539 --> 00:30:15.839
by blue light or a lack of light. Well, look

00:30:15.839 --> 00:30:18.500
at us throughout history. I mean, air conditioning

00:30:18.500 --> 00:30:21.460
is new. Blackout curtains are new. Well, look

00:30:21.460 --> 00:30:23.700
up at Seattle. They have a condition called sad,

00:30:23.819 --> 00:30:26.359
don't they? 100%. Absolutely. We're basically

00:30:26.359 --> 00:30:28.420
solar panels that are meant to live outside in

00:30:28.420 --> 00:30:30.480
the sun and not under fluorescent lights and

00:30:30.480 --> 00:30:32.400
then fake lights. So our bodies aren't meant

00:30:32.400 --> 00:30:36.210
for this. And so we have a bit of a light deficit

00:30:36.210 --> 00:30:38.809
going across society. And I bet everybody, usually

00:30:38.809 --> 00:30:40.990
everybody that goes to get a blood test, their

00:30:40.990 --> 00:30:43.650
vitamin D levels are low. And so usually you

00:30:43.650 --> 00:30:45.549
have to supplement because you're low on vitamin

00:30:45.549 --> 00:30:47.769
D. And that has a lot to do with, you know, the

00:30:47.769 --> 00:30:49.569
light spectrum and your exposure. And to point

00:30:49.569 --> 00:30:51.309
to what he was talking about, Andrew Huberman

00:30:51.309 --> 00:30:54.390
brought a really fascinating podcast. I encourage

00:30:54.390 --> 00:30:56.190
anybody to go take a look at it and listen to

00:30:56.190 --> 00:30:58.430
it. It talks about, you know, light exposure

00:30:58.430 --> 00:31:00.450
and spectrum. Who is it again? Andrew Huberman,

00:31:00.549 --> 00:31:03.240
Dr. Andrew Huberman. Okay. He's got a podcast.

00:31:03.460 --> 00:31:07.700
He's a wellness expert and does a lot of diving.

00:31:07.700 --> 00:31:10.440
He teaches neuroscience at the Stanford University

00:31:10.440 --> 00:31:12.900
School of Medicine. Great guy to follow. Another

00:31:12.900 --> 00:31:15.799
good guy to follow is Dr. Peter Attia. He's got

00:31:15.799 --> 00:31:18.920
a podcast called The Drive. And he brings in

00:31:18.920 --> 00:31:21.079
other doctors and they dive into specific subjects.

00:31:21.339 --> 00:31:25.000
So if you're looking to pick up your IQ on whatever

00:31:25.000 --> 00:31:27.900
subject it is, go to The Drive and listen to

00:31:27.900 --> 00:31:33.599
whatever subject it is. best expert in the industry

00:31:33.599 --> 00:31:35.319
on there, and they're going to dive into it.

00:31:35.339 --> 00:31:37.619
You'll leave with a PhD level of intelligence

00:31:37.619 --> 00:31:39.539
on whatever the subject is. Yeah, but who listens

00:31:39.539 --> 00:31:43.619
to podcasts? I know. Just the dorks. I mean.

00:31:44.640 --> 00:31:46.940
So back to what I was saying, the whole thing

00:31:46.940 --> 00:31:49.220
about sleep is something I first started with,

00:31:49.319 --> 00:31:52.319
was really figuring out, okay, I've identified

00:31:52.319 --> 00:31:54.900
that I've got a sleep deficit. Now how do I fix

00:31:54.900 --> 00:31:58.349
it? And so. What do I do? I dive online and start

00:31:58.349 --> 00:32:00.430
reading all I can. I start listening to podcasts.

00:32:00.829 --> 00:32:03.049
I'm listening to Peter Atiyah, guys like him

00:32:03.049 --> 00:32:06.609
and Huberman. When they bring in experts, sleep

00:32:06.609 --> 00:32:09.609
experts, and start discussing it, then I start

00:32:09.609 --> 00:32:11.029
writing a list of the things that they're talking

00:32:11.029 --> 00:32:13.390
about, and then I start trying them. And I got

00:32:13.390 --> 00:32:17.190
a fitness tracker, so I'm tracking. Quality of

00:32:17.190 --> 00:32:19.549
your sleep, yeah. Well, I'm trying each individual

00:32:19.549 --> 00:32:22.490
anecdote, and I'm looking, I'm tracking it on

00:32:22.490 --> 00:32:24.980
my tracker to see how does it work. And I went

00:32:24.980 --> 00:32:26.559
through a list of things. I found a couple of

00:32:26.559 --> 00:32:28.420
things that worked great for me, and that's what

00:32:28.420 --> 00:32:30.900
I stick with. Sure. And I found that it worked

00:32:30.900 --> 00:32:34.039
great. Now, for me, if anyone's interested, the

00:32:34.039 --> 00:32:37.759
first one for me was the timing on my last meal

00:32:37.759 --> 00:32:40.759
of the day. When you go to bed with food on your

00:32:40.759 --> 00:32:42.920
stomach, your body stays in that awake mode.

00:32:42.960 --> 00:32:45.240
And while you might fall asleep and be unconscious,

00:32:45.759 --> 00:32:48.980
it hovers in that light sleep range, and it doesn't

00:32:48.980 --> 00:32:51.319
dive into deep and REM. Because it's got a job

00:32:51.319 --> 00:32:54.099
to do. It's got a job to do. Right. So what I

00:32:54.099 --> 00:32:57.200
did is I moved that timeline back, and so I shoot

00:32:57.200 --> 00:32:59.539
for three to four hours before I go to bed of

00:32:59.539 --> 00:33:02.400
having my last meal of the day. So I got it digested,

00:33:02.420 --> 00:33:05.440
go to bed, and my tracker, I did it multiple

00:33:05.440 --> 00:33:07.920
days in a row to test it, and it consistently

00:33:07.920 --> 00:33:12.000
jumped me up 50%. Damn. 50%. That was huge. It

00:33:12.000 --> 00:33:14.700
was huge. Of just the deep Norem. So you're like

00:33:14.700 --> 00:33:16.500
a blue hair. You eat at 3 .30 in the afternoon?

00:33:18.170 --> 00:33:22.349
Only if it's a buffet. At Luby's. I said extra

00:33:22.349 --> 00:33:23.130
mac and cheese. If you're going to bed at 10,

00:33:23.269 --> 00:33:26.069
you eat at 7 o 'clock. That's good to go. Sure.

00:33:26.769 --> 00:33:29.529
And then, of course, sort of intermittent fasting.

00:33:29.609 --> 00:33:32.049
I take my last meal of the day and my first meal

00:33:32.049 --> 00:33:34.109
of the day, and I do about a 13 -hour bunch there.

00:33:34.250 --> 00:33:36.730
So if I have my last meal at 8, I have my first

00:33:36.730 --> 00:33:39.700
meal at 9. Makes sense. In the a .m. And that's

00:33:39.700 --> 00:33:41.039
something all of us should be able to control.

00:33:41.160 --> 00:33:43.480
It should, right? And it had a profound effect.

00:33:43.579 --> 00:33:46.200
It got my body to metabolize better. And so I

00:33:46.200 --> 00:33:48.339
was burning calories more efficiently and weight

00:33:48.339 --> 00:33:51.140
started dropping off. Like body fat started going

00:33:51.140 --> 00:33:55.640
down tremendously. Right. So it worked. The next

00:33:55.640 --> 00:33:58.079
big one for me on the sleep, which I think is

00:33:58.079 --> 00:34:02.539
probably the most critical one that really jumpstarts

00:34:02.539 --> 00:34:04.720
it. So if you're having problems sleeping, if

00:34:04.720 --> 00:34:08.630
you've got, you know. sleep deficit, or if you're

00:34:08.630 --> 00:34:13.289
just insomniac, there is a biological turnover

00:34:13.289 --> 00:34:16.949
that happens from doing zone two cardio workouts.

00:34:17.869 --> 00:34:21.030
Now, the history of this, which actually my doctor

00:34:21.030 --> 00:34:23.670
explained to me, was they studied the Kenyan

00:34:23.670 --> 00:34:26.510
marathon runners, and they took a team of doctors

00:34:26.510 --> 00:34:29.590
to Kenya to spend time with the Kenyan marathon

00:34:29.590 --> 00:34:31.409
runners to answer the question, why are these

00:34:31.409 --> 00:34:34.489
guys dominating marathons all over the world?

00:34:34.590 --> 00:34:36.989
What is it? Is it The food they eat, is it because

00:34:36.989 --> 00:34:38.469
they've been running from lions for hundreds

00:34:38.469 --> 00:34:39.409
of years? I was going to say, I thought they

00:34:39.409 --> 00:34:41.929
were prey. Like, what is going on here? Oh, my

00:34:41.929 --> 00:34:44.829
God. It's a motivator, that's for sure. Well,

00:34:44.829 --> 00:34:48.829
it turns out it's in their training. It's how

00:34:48.829 --> 00:34:52.170
they physically exercise. Surprisingly, Canyon

00:34:52.170 --> 00:34:55.690
Marathon runners run two days a week. And then

00:34:55.690 --> 00:34:57.869
the other days, they're doing a Zone 2 cardio

00:34:57.869 --> 00:35:00.650
workout. So how that looks, Monday, they do a

00:35:00.650 --> 00:35:04.730
hard run. Tuesday, they do 25 minutes of Zone

00:35:04.730 --> 00:35:08.719
2. Now, zone two is basically a range. If you're

00:35:08.719 --> 00:35:12.179
our age, it's like 135 to 145 beats a minute.

00:35:12.400 --> 00:35:15.059
The real litmus test on it is can you still breathe

00:35:15.059 --> 00:35:16.440
through your nose and keep your mouth closed

00:35:16.440 --> 00:35:18.480
while you're doing it? Can you have a conversation

00:35:18.480 --> 00:35:21.019
without sucking for air? So you can do a zone

00:35:21.019 --> 00:35:22.800
two while you're on a conference call and people

00:35:22.800 --> 00:35:25.059
don't know you're sitting there on a treadmill,

00:35:25.159 --> 00:35:29.079
right? Okay, yeah. Give me examples of what level

00:35:29.079 --> 00:35:32.800
that would be for a normal guy. So, depending

00:35:32.800 --> 00:35:34.159
on age. Is that running on a treadmill? Is that

00:35:34.159 --> 00:35:36.519
walking on a treadmill? You're hitting a percentage.

00:35:36.760 --> 00:35:38.820
So, if you're a young guy, it's going to be a

00:35:38.820 --> 00:35:41.840
jog. If you're getting close to your 50s, it

00:35:41.840 --> 00:35:44.500
could be a really fast -paced walk. Okay. Riding

00:35:44.500 --> 00:35:47.820
a bike. For 25 minutes? 25 minutes. Okay. We're

00:35:47.820 --> 00:35:50.199
talking getting your heart rate close to that

00:35:50.199 --> 00:35:53.199
140 mark. But not crazy. 140. Once you hit like

00:35:53.199 --> 00:35:56.320
150 beats per minute, you're in zone three. So,

00:35:56.380 --> 00:35:59.280
you're really that sweet spot is 135 to 148,

00:35:59.300 --> 00:36:02.909
149 range. Again, it kind of depends on your

00:36:02.909 --> 00:36:04.309
age on what that number is. Sure, you got to

00:36:04.309 --> 00:36:06.510
tweak it for your own body. Yeah, because you

00:36:06.510 --> 00:36:09.170
take 220, you minus your age, and that's 100%.

00:36:09.170 --> 00:36:10.969
And then you do a percentage from there, and

00:36:10.969 --> 00:36:13.929
zone two is going to be around 65%. Okay. So

00:36:13.929 --> 00:36:16.590
you're looking at 135 to 145 beats a minute if

00:36:16.590 --> 00:36:18.769
you're in your 40s to 50s. Yep. And that could

00:36:18.769 --> 00:36:22.550
be from a really good walk, riding a bike. If

00:36:22.550 --> 00:36:24.110
you're really in good cardio shape, it might

00:36:24.110 --> 00:36:26.309
be a light jog. Right. Now, it's not talking

00:36:26.309 --> 00:36:28.969
about just walking, just brisk, just casually

00:36:28.969 --> 00:36:30.900
walking. got to be hitting your walk, right?

00:36:31.039 --> 00:36:32.980
You got to get your heart rate going. Yeah. But

00:36:32.980 --> 00:36:36.760
25 minutes of that merit, those guys were doing

00:36:36.760 --> 00:36:40.380
it on Tuesday and Thursday or Monday. They did

00:36:40.380 --> 00:36:42.199
the hard run Tuesday, Wednesday. They did the

00:36:42.199 --> 00:36:44.480
zone two Thursday. They came in and they did

00:36:44.480 --> 00:36:47.599
another hard run Friday, Saturday, Sunday. They

00:36:47.599 --> 00:36:49.059
were doing the zone two. Now they were doing

00:36:49.059 --> 00:36:51.480
this year round. Now the doctors came back and

00:36:51.480 --> 00:36:53.900
researched that. And what it was doing was it

00:36:53.900 --> 00:36:58.199
was causing on the biological level, the mitochondrial

00:36:58.199 --> 00:37:00.690
cells. were boosting their regeneration turnaround

00:37:00.690 --> 00:37:03.730
timeline. So they were healing faster on the

00:37:03.730 --> 00:37:07.449
cellular level. Recovery, because they had recovery.

00:37:07.730 --> 00:37:11.849
Exactly. The other thing that it did was it biologically

00:37:11.849 --> 00:37:14.389
kicked your body to jump into deep sleep and

00:37:14.389 --> 00:37:17.829
to go there as long as possible. So essentially,

00:37:17.929 --> 00:37:21.849
these guys are hyper -focused on recovery. Now,

00:37:21.849 --> 00:37:23.889
they didn't know. It's just what worked for them.

00:37:24.230 --> 00:37:26.730
But they were essentially hyper -focused on recovery.

00:37:27.320 --> 00:37:29.760
They get recovered, fully recovered, and they're

00:37:29.760 --> 00:37:31.960
ready for another hard run, fully recovered.

00:37:32.219 --> 00:37:34.500
And then they recover again, and they need to

00:37:34.500 --> 00:37:37.039
do another hard run, fully recovered. So by the

00:37:37.039 --> 00:37:39.059
time these guys are doing runs each time, they're

00:37:39.059 --> 00:37:41.940
doing them at 100 % recovery, ready to get a

00:37:41.940 --> 00:37:44.659
hard one in. And that's why they're dominating.

00:37:45.460 --> 00:37:48.119
Because when they run, they're like, they got

00:37:48.119 --> 00:37:50.579
everything. They got everything to go in for

00:37:50.579 --> 00:37:52.480
them. All of their cells are fully recovered.

00:37:52.619 --> 00:37:54.920
They're ready to go. And then they get to a,

00:37:54.920 --> 00:37:57.360
they get to a competition. They're fully recovered.

00:37:57.559 --> 00:37:59.800
And while all of the rest of the competition

00:37:59.800 --> 00:38:02.500
has been over training and when they do get hard

00:38:02.500 --> 00:38:04.360
runs, they're doing too many hard runs. And when

00:38:04.360 --> 00:38:06.260
they do a hard run, they're not fully recovered.

00:38:06.780 --> 00:38:09.360
So these guys are hyper focused on recovery and

00:38:09.360 --> 00:38:11.579
it's given them peak performance because of that.

00:38:11.639 --> 00:38:14.239
So it wasn't lions. No shit. It wasn't lions.

00:38:14.340 --> 00:38:16.260
It was in the training. Now I expect it in the

00:38:16.260 --> 00:38:18.750
next Olympics. You may not be winning the gold

00:38:18.750 --> 00:38:20.369
this next time around because the secret's out.

00:38:20.409 --> 00:38:21.690
They started figuring it out. The secret's out.

00:38:22.150 --> 00:38:24.070
Now, on the mitochondrial cell regeneration,

00:38:24.469 --> 00:38:26.510
that's not just with exercise. That's with injury.

00:38:26.710 --> 00:38:28.869
So now you're seeing physical therapists are

00:38:28.869 --> 00:38:31.389
including that within your physical therapy protocol.

00:38:31.909 --> 00:38:34.250
Interesting. It speeds up the recovery time on

00:38:34.250 --> 00:38:37.110
your healing. I think if I get my heart rate

00:38:37.110 --> 00:38:41.090
up to 300, I may just die. 300? Yeah, 300 is

00:38:41.090 --> 00:38:43.190
going to kill you. 220 will probably kill you.

00:38:43.210 --> 00:38:46.489
It says here, I thought it said 300 somewhere.

00:38:46.750 --> 00:38:50.670
No, you don't want 300. That sounds bad. I put

00:38:50.670 --> 00:38:53.590
it into my protocol, and I looked at the results

00:38:53.590 --> 00:38:57.170
on my tracking, and I had 100 % increased. 220

00:38:57.170 --> 00:38:59.449
minus your age. Yeah, 220 minus your age is 100

00:38:59.449 --> 00:39:01.849
% of your maximum heart rate. You had 100 % what?

00:39:02.280 --> 00:39:05.260
I had 100 % increase in my deep and REM sleep.

00:39:05.539 --> 00:39:08.860
Oh, dude. That's amazing. Huge. Just by doing

00:39:08.860 --> 00:39:10.820
that? Just by doing that. And you sustained it?

00:39:12.139 --> 00:39:15.800
It's when I do it. So when you do it, it's 100

00:39:15.800 --> 00:39:18.699
% of the time it happens. It's a cause and effect

00:39:18.699 --> 00:39:20.800
for that period. So if you do it that day, that

00:39:20.800 --> 00:39:22.539
night, your body's going to - So it's like a

00:39:22.539 --> 00:39:24.320
day thing. So if you're like, I'm going to go

00:39:24.320 --> 00:39:26.159
do it tomorrow, that night, you're going to -

00:39:26.159 --> 00:39:28.280
That's right. I have to do it for a week. To

00:39:28.280 --> 00:39:30.579
see this benefit? No, it's day one. You do it

00:39:30.579 --> 00:39:31.920
that day, that night, you're going to get a result

00:39:31.920 --> 00:39:33.679
from it. You do it the next day, the next night.

00:39:33.679 --> 00:39:34.900
You've got to stick with it all the time. So

00:39:34.900 --> 00:39:36.920
it's something to get into and stick to. So I

00:39:36.920 --> 00:39:39.780
just put it in. I've kind of fallen off with

00:39:39.780 --> 00:39:42.159
things going on recently. I don't do them as

00:39:42.159 --> 00:39:43.780
every day. You fall off your routine. But for

00:39:43.780 --> 00:39:45.420
a good period of time, it was every day. I try

00:39:45.420 --> 00:39:47.980
to do it as much as possible. And I'm about to

00:39:47.980 --> 00:39:50.639
get back into my 100 % everyday routine. But

00:39:50.639 --> 00:39:53.699
yeah, it works. And I know it works because I've

00:39:53.699 --> 00:39:55.980
tracked it with data. I'm purely going off of

00:39:55.980 --> 00:39:58.360
the data that I've... There's no better way to

00:39:58.360 --> 00:40:01.739
do it. So it works. And did it cause any weight

00:40:01.739 --> 00:40:04.639
loss as well? Well, yeah. Cause you're metabolizing.

00:40:04.760 --> 00:40:07.320
Right. So your, your fit watch that you have

00:40:07.320 --> 00:40:11.400
$350 membership a year, right? Yeah. Yeah. I'm

00:40:11.400 --> 00:40:14.760
not, I don't care, but I mean, how much was the

00:40:14.760 --> 00:40:17.679
watch? Well, they give it to you. You pay for

00:40:17.679 --> 00:40:19.079
the membership and they give you, they give you

00:40:19.079 --> 00:40:20.739
a track. So what's it called? Is that it right

00:40:20.739 --> 00:40:22.400
there? Yeah, this is it. It's called a whoop.

00:40:22.400 --> 00:40:24.400
And the newest model is pretty cool. I got this

00:40:24.400 --> 00:40:26.980
new one. Can you spell that for me? W H O O P.

00:40:27.539 --> 00:40:30.079
W -H. It's only for Aggies. Whoop, there it is.

00:40:30.159 --> 00:40:32.539
So I'm an Aggie. I should know what that is.

00:40:32.619 --> 00:40:36.079
So this does a really good job of tracking your

00:40:36.079 --> 00:40:38.280
sleep. The other thing it does is it tracks the

00:40:38.280 --> 00:40:40.920
strain that you put in a day. Well, they sell

00:40:40.920 --> 00:40:45.360
them there. So whoop's really good for all of

00:40:45.360 --> 00:40:48.119
the fitness trackers. If you want an entry point

00:40:48.119 --> 00:40:52.300
to get in, whether it be one of the ring or a

00:40:52.300 --> 00:40:54.320
Fitbit or whatever. Yeah, any of them are great.

00:40:54.599 --> 00:40:56.639
Whoop's just kind of the top of the line. And

00:40:56.639 --> 00:40:59.320
there's a number of them that do that annual

00:40:59.320 --> 00:41:01.119
membership as well. But Whoop's not the only

00:41:01.119 --> 00:41:04.199
one that does that. No, no, no. You can get a

00:41:04.199 --> 00:41:08.199
Fitbit for $150. That's waterproof. And we'll

00:41:08.199 --> 00:41:10.719
tell you most of this stuff. And it's no annual

00:41:10.719 --> 00:41:12.920
charge or anything like that. You guys both have

00:41:12.920 --> 00:41:16.260
one, right? I have a Fitbit. I'm the cheapest

00:41:16.260 --> 00:41:17.860
person you'll probably ever meet. Yeah, but I

00:41:17.860 --> 00:41:21.360
can do... Frugal. Okay, yeah. I can do an EKG

00:41:21.360 --> 00:41:24.599
on mine and do a full EKG score and I can send

00:41:24.599 --> 00:41:26.019
it to my doctor. It taught him how to tap dance

00:41:26.019 --> 00:41:28.059
and does his taxes. It does the EKG as well.

00:41:28.219 --> 00:41:32.239
You log on to whoop .com or is that what it is?

00:41:32.260 --> 00:41:35.380
Whoop .com. Yeah. And you just, you go through

00:41:35.380 --> 00:41:39.420
them, you enroll in the annual membership and

00:41:39.420 --> 00:41:41.139
they mail you the watch. Yeah, they give you

00:41:41.139 --> 00:41:43.179
the watch for free. So you get one watch and

00:41:43.179 --> 00:41:46.800
how... do you charge it so the older versions

00:41:46.800 --> 00:41:49.539
so this new life one this is the newest model

00:41:49.539 --> 00:41:52.179
that just came out um it's got the peak on it

00:41:52.179 --> 00:41:54.619
you got the peak in the one but the the biggest

00:41:54.619 --> 00:41:56.900
one right here is the newest model and that one

00:41:56.900 --> 00:42:00.219
has a 14 day of battery life wow it takes about

00:42:00.219 --> 00:42:02.159
impressive yeah this takes me about an hour to

00:42:02.159 --> 00:42:03.900
charge up i don't have to do it again for a couple

00:42:03.900 --> 00:42:06.519
weeks the other one was about four days which

00:42:06.519 --> 00:42:07.980
is a lot better like the fitbit you got to do

00:42:07.980 --> 00:42:10.159
it overnight Kind of like the, sometimes a couple,

00:42:10.280 --> 00:42:12.739
the Apple Watch. You can go like five, six days.

00:42:13.039 --> 00:42:14.860
Didn't the Apple Watch do all this stuff too?

00:42:15.019 --> 00:42:17.460
It does. Yeah, most does. Yeah, that's just it.

00:42:17.579 --> 00:42:19.199
You got a lot of options if you're going to.

00:42:19.199 --> 00:42:20.840
Yeah, there's a lot of options. There's a lot

00:42:20.840 --> 00:42:22.500
of options. Yeah, there's a lot of options. So

00:42:22.500 --> 00:42:25.239
do you get a new watch every year? My first one

00:42:25.239 --> 00:42:28.099
I kept for two years and then I replaced it once

00:42:28.099 --> 00:42:30.000
the new model just came out a couple months ago.

00:42:30.059 --> 00:42:32.159
But you have to buy the new one. No, I just renewed

00:42:32.159 --> 00:42:35.739
and they sent it to me. Okay, so every year you

00:42:35.739 --> 00:42:38.900
renew, you get a new watch. Yeah, you can, yeah.

00:42:39.460 --> 00:42:41.639
But just some kind of tracking. Yeah, some kind

00:42:41.639 --> 00:42:43.199
of tracking. Anything you're doing. I think here's

00:42:43.199 --> 00:42:44.860
the thing. I mean, we buy these, I apologize,

00:42:44.980 --> 00:42:46.300
I didn't mean to interrupt you, but it's like,

00:42:46.440 --> 00:42:50.260
good Lord. I mean, my watch, hell, we got this,

00:42:50.320 --> 00:42:51.980
Jeff and I got this because we were. That was

00:42:51.980 --> 00:42:54.340
a long time ago. Wanting to do biathlons. And

00:42:54.340 --> 00:42:56.300
that was our thing. We started swimming. And

00:42:56.300 --> 00:42:58.760
this was like the only watch that could count

00:42:58.760 --> 00:43:02.119
us doing our laps. Oh, cool. And then like a

00:43:02.119 --> 00:43:03.699
week later, they started selling them everywhere.

00:43:04.019 --> 00:43:08.300
But my point is that this one is pretty robust

00:43:08.300 --> 00:43:10.739
for what it does. And frankly, I'm surprised

00:43:10.739 --> 00:43:12.840
it still works. And there was a point where the

00:43:12.840 --> 00:43:14.739
battery was just dying really quick. And then,

00:43:14.780 --> 00:43:17.059
I don't know, I did some things. I take it off

00:43:17.059 --> 00:43:18.659
every single day and I charge it every day. But

00:43:18.659 --> 00:43:19.860
I could probably go two or three days without

00:43:19.860 --> 00:43:22.690
it. I forget what my point was. Does it track

00:43:22.690 --> 00:43:26.469
your sleep? It doesn't track my sleep, but it

00:43:26.469 --> 00:43:28.489
tracks a bunch of other things. And if I wanted

00:43:28.489 --> 00:43:30.190
to track the sleep, I could program it in there

00:43:30.190 --> 00:43:33.829
to do it. But I just didn't. But my point is

00:43:33.829 --> 00:43:35.550
that if you're going to buy a watch, how long

00:43:35.550 --> 00:43:37.250
do watches normally last? A year? Two years?

00:43:37.570 --> 00:43:40.489
Three years? Four years? I've had my Apple Watch.

00:43:42.250 --> 00:43:45.030
For a couple years, yeah. They should work indefinitely,

00:43:45.110 --> 00:43:47.590
right? I mean, why not? Well, because components

00:43:47.590 --> 00:43:53.070
go apart. It's a computer on your wrist. I'm

00:43:53.070 --> 00:43:56.309
trying to rationalize the cost on it because

00:43:56.309 --> 00:43:59.710
I wouldn't mind diving into an expense like that

00:43:59.710 --> 00:44:02.289
just to get a new watch every year and just to

00:44:02.289 --> 00:44:06.150
provide that kind of information and detail about

00:44:06.150 --> 00:44:07.929
your sleep. I mean, if it's going to increase

00:44:07.929 --> 00:44:10.719
the quality of my life, why not? Yeah, I always

00:44:10.719 --> 00:44:12.099
encourage people to get something that will track

00:44:12.099 --> 00:44:14.019
your sleep. That's always a good thing. And if

00:44:14.019 --> 00:44:15.199
you can track steps, that's good. That's the

00:44:15.199 --> 00:44:17.260
starter. But I'm sure you get way more with this

00:44:17.260 --> 00:44:19.920
program. Oh, yeah. You can track your O2 levels.

00:44:20.019 --> 00:44:23.199
You can track VO2 max. You can track your variable

00:44:23.199 --> 00:44:26.440
heart rate. You can track your EKG, your sleep,

00:44:26.539 --> 00:44:30.480
your strain. It collects this data. Does it take

00:44:30.480 --> 00:44:32.980
the data, analyze it, and then regurgitate some

00:44:32.980 --> 00:44:37.280
sort of narrative? Yeah, it does. And the more

00:44:37.280 --> 00:44:39.739
you wear it, the smarter it gets on your body,

00:44:39.820 --> 00:44:42.500
right? So mine will track the sleep I got the

00:44:42.500 --> 00:44:44.599
night before, and then it'll tell me, this is

00:44:44.599 --> 00:44:46.880
how much strain you should target today based

00:44:46.880 --> 00:44:48.739
on the recovery you got last night. And it'll

00:44:48.739 --> 00:44:50.739
give me a target point for how much strain. And

00:44:50.739 --> 00:44:52.599
then it measures the strain that my body has.

00:44:52.820 --> 00:44:54.659
So it's measuring a whole list of different things.

00:44:54.679 --> 00:44:57.000
That sounds like my wife. And does it make you

00:44:57.000 --> 00:45:00.320
feel guilty and give you shit about it? No, that's

00:45:00.320 --> 00:45:02.760
what your wife's for. That's a more expensive

00:45:02.760 --> 00:45:06.619
option. It's time to stand. You lazy ass. But

00:45:06.619 --> 00:45:09.739
it does calculate. You drank too much again.

00:45:10.079 --> 00:45:13.380
Exactly. So it does, it tracks that and it calculates

00:45:13.380 --> 00:45:16.260
to tell you how much sleep. So the night before

00:45:16.260 --> 00:45:18.739
I had X amount of sleep. So my target strain

00:45:18.739 --> 00:45:21.280
level was this for today. And then it takes whatever

00:45:21.280 --> 00:45:23.019
that is for the day. And it says, this is how

00:45:23.019 --> 00:45:24.800
much sleep you should probably get tonight to

00:45:24.800 --> 00:45:27.460
recover from that. And so it's a constantly running

00:45:27.460 --> 00:45:29.780
thing that's going off of the data that it collects

00:45:29.780 --> 00:45:32.260
over time. And it gives you a real. pretty darn

00:45:32.260 --> 00:45:34.559
good accurate measurement on how much strain

00:45:34.559 --> 00:45:36.280
and how much sleep that you're getting on a daily

00:45:36.280 --> 00:45:38.019
basis and the reality is it's giving you enough

00:45:38.019 --> 00:45:40.460
information to have you have no excuses man you

00:45:40.460 --> 00:45:42.840
know exactly no but if you're going to get doing

00:45:42.840 --> 00:45:45.179
yeah exactly and you got to make a personal choice

00:45:45.179 --> 00:45:48.579
on being healthy or not But to Craig's point,

00:45:48.619 --> 00:45:50.320
though, any kind of a tracking device is a great

00:45:50.320 --> 00:45:52.000
thing to do because you can really see where

00:45:52.000 --> 00:45:55.159
you are. Because where I was when I finally got

00:45:55.159 --> 00:45:57.820
out of a sleep deficit, it was a life -changing

00:45:57.820 --> 00:46:00.500
moment for me. I felt like an entirely new human

00:46:00.500 --> 00:46:02.780
being. It's that critical. So you were seeing

00:46:02.780 --> 00:46:06.639
the benefits right away. Immediately. I know

00:46:06.639 --> 00:46:09.760
without looking at my tracker now if I got the

00:46:09.760 --> 00:46:11.840
full amount of recovery that I needed based on

00:46:11.840 --> 00:46:14.159
the strain that I had the day before. The way

00:46:14.159 --> 00:46:17.480
I wake up. When I wake up feeling recharged and

00:46:17.480 --> 00:46:20.719
ready to get my day, I know I had it. Right.

00:46:20.840 --> 00:46:23.460
If I need a cup of coffee, I know that I'm in

00:46:23.460 --> 00:46:26.119
a sleep deficit. Yep. So I'm getting real dialed

00:46:26.119 --> 00:46:28.840
in. You don't drink coffee anymore? Not if I

00:46:28.840 --> 00:46:30.639
don't have a, if I've got a good night's sleep,

00:46:30.719 --> 00:46:32.659
then no, I don't. I just drink coffee because

00:46:32.659 --> 00:46:36.389
it's routine. Lots of people do. It kind of percolates

00:46:36.389 --> 00:46:38.690
my intestinal tract. Yeah, and you get kind of

00:46:38.690 --> 00:46:41.789
used to it, too. It comes a little bit apart.

00:46:41.849 --> 00:46:44.010
You start drinking energy drinks. No, I don't

00:46:44.010 --> 00:46:46.369
do that shit, man. I've been drinking Blooms.

00:46:46.409 --> 00:46:48.730
Do you know what Blooms are? No idea. They're

00:46:48.730 --> 00:46:50.969
tasty, and I tell you what, it's the caffeine

00:46:50.969 --> 00:46:54.130
makes you sharp. Yeah. But I don't know if it's

00:46:54.130 --> 00:46:55.550
good for you. I don't think it is good for you.

00:46:55.550 --> 00:46:58.070
I'm pretty sure it's not. It doesn't have the

00:46:58.070 --> 00:47:00.849
sugar. That, like, you know, monster drinks and

00:47:00.849 --> 00:47:02.349
stuff? No, it's probably got lots of B in it

00:47:02.349 --> 00:47:03.789
and lots of taurine and some caffeine too. Yeah,

00:47:03.789 --> 00:47:07.369
and L -theanine. Yeah, yeah. I mean, it's just

00:47:07.369 --> 00:47:09.889
stuff that wakes you up, right? I mean, it depends

00:47:09.889 --> 00:47:12.469
on how you use it. I like to get a cup of coffee

00:47:12.469 --> 00:47:14.150
before I get a good workout in because it's like

00:47:14.150 --> 00:47:16.309
having an energy drink. Yeah, there you go. It's

00:47:16.309 --> 00:47:19.190
like getting a pre -workout drink. You know,

00:47:19.230 --> 00:47:20.769
I stopped drinking the pre -workout drinks and

00:47:20.769 --> 00:47:22.889
just started doing a cup of coffee before a workout

00:47:22.889 --> 00:47:25.420
if I really wanted an extra boost. That's plenty.

00:47:25.579 --> 00:47:27.440
That's all you need. Who doesn't love a good

00:47:27.440 --> 00:47:29.940
cathartic first thing in the morning? I've had

00:47:29.940 --> 00:47:34.360
issues with sleeping. We traveled and gone some

00:47:34.360 --> 00:47:37.639
places and these guys have heard me sleep. Because

00:47:37.639 --> 00:47:41.519
we can't sleep. Sleep. When he says sleep. Well,

00:47:41.639 --> 00:47:45.679
it's horrific. I have horrible sleep apnea. Do

00:47:45.679 --> 00:47:50.659
you use a CPAP? I do now. There are two things

00:47:50.659 --> 00:47:53.860
that I've done. One of them is the eating. I

00:47:53.860 --> 00:47:56.159
try my best not to eat four hours before I go

00:47:56.159 --> 00:47:58.440
to bed, number one. And I'll tell you also, that

00:47:58.440 --> 00:48:01.039
has also controlled a lot of the stomach issues

00:48:01.039 --> 00:48:04.460
I've had. Pain, stomach, antacid stuff. There's

00:48:04.460 --> 00:48:07.300
two things I did there. Not going to bed with

00:48:07.300 --> 00:48:10.719
a stomach full of food and limiting the amount

00:48:10.719 --> 00:48:14.820
of water I drank during that process. An hour

00:48:14.820 --> 00:48:16.519
before, a couple hours afterwards before you

00:48:16.519 --> 00:48:18.719
drink water. The second thing was the CPAP machine.

00:48:19.079 --> 00:48:21.260
So don't eat in the CPAP machine. The CPAP machine

00:48:21.260 --> 00:48:24.059
was crazy. The biggest telltale sign for me,

00:48:24.159 --> 00:48:27.699
asking folks why they have a hard time, is do

00:48:27.699 --> 00:48:28.900
you get up in the middle of the night to go pee?

00:48:29.699 --> 00:48:33.199
And most of the time, if you get up in the middle

00:48:33.199 --> 00:48:35.059
of the night two, three times to go pee, it's

00:48:35.059 --> 00:48:37.380
not because you have to pee. It's because you're

00:48:37.380 --> 00:48:39.920
awake and your body's in fight -flight, and usually

00:48:39.920 --> 00:48:42.440
in fight -flight, you've got to pee. Might be

00:48:42.440 --> 00:48:45.670
low on sodium as well. It could be. You know,

00:48:45.670 --> 00:48:47.550
that's another thing I take before I go to bed

00:48:47.550 --> 00:48:49.690
is I buy Celtic salt, and I take a couple of

00:48:49.690 --> 00:48:51.969
granules and put it on my tongue before I go

00:48:51.969 --> 00:48:54.349
to bed. Do you really? Yeah, every night. Oh.

00:48:54.369 --> 00:48:56.789
So I had - Celtic salt. It's high in magnesium.

00:48:57.250 --> 00:49:00.670
Okay. So I had a mineral salt. Why not just take

00:49:00.670 --> 00:49:03.469
magnesium 3 and 8? I do. Oh, you take that as

00:49:03.469 --> 00:49:05.329
well? I do that. That stuff's amazing. Yeah,

00:49:05.329 --> 00:49:07.269
no, yeah. It has made a huge difference to my

00:49:07.269 --> 00:49:10.190
sleep. Yeah. No, it works. Magnesium 3 and 8.

00:49:10.269 --> 00:49:12.210
Yeah. L3 and 8. Yeah, yeah. I just take it all.

00:49:12.570 --> 00:49:15.050
Okay. I take like 13 pills before I go to bed.

00:49:15.190 --> 00:49:18.010
Oh, wow. Well, then your body's actually digesting

00:49:18.010 --> 00:49:20.469
that. I didn't even think about that. That's

00:49:20.469 --> 00:49:22.630
a full stomach. Take it in the morning. Well,

00:49:22.650 --> 00:49:24.829
I'll take some of them in the morning, but the

00:49:24.829 --> 00:49:28.150
blood pressure stuff, they recommend you take

00:49:28.150 --> 00:49:31.110
that at night. So this isn't violating any HIPAA

00:49:31.110 --> 00:49:35.389
things, but if y 'all didn't know, most medical

00:49:35.389 --> 00:49:37.510
students, nursing students, pharmacy students,

00:49:37.690 --> 00:49:41.329
they are educated through the VA system. The

00:49:41.329 --> 00:49:44.030
VA system is fantastic for student education

00:49:44.030 --> 00:49:48.250
in the United States. And most pharmacists will

00:49:48.250 --> 00:49:51.730
go through, like if you develop atrial fibrillation,

00:49:51.869 --> 00:49:55.050
AFib, they start you on blood thinners. So they

00:49:55.050 --> 00:49:57.530
call it a Coumadin clinic. And you go in there

00:49:57.530 --> 00:50:00.690
and you test their INR, which is basically how

00:50:00.690 --> 00:50:02.670
thick their blood is. You want a little on the

00:50:02.670 --> 00:50:06.190
thin side for somebody with AFib. And I was working

00:50:06.190 --> 00:50:10.039
the Coumadin clinic out there in Lubbock. We

00:50:10.039 --> 00:50:13.460
had this guy come through, and his wife was saying,

00:50:13.659 --> 00:50:16.559
yeah, he just won't eat, and I just don't know

00:50:16.559 --> 00:50:20.260
what the deal is. And so my preceptor was like,

00:50:20.360 --> 00:50:22.099
well, why don't you really drill down and let

00:50:22.099 --> 00:50:24.139
us know what's going on here? And she was this

00:50:24.139 --> 00:50:26.760
hippy -dippy type, and she starts bringing out

00:50:26.760 --> 00:50:29.599
how many supplements he has. I mean, it was like

00:50:29.599 --> 00:50:31.659
she went into the vitamin shop and said, one

00:50:31.659 --> 00:50:35.219
of everything, please. And it was, imagine a

00:50:35.219 --> 00:50:38.500
cereal bowl. filled with capsules and tablets

00:50:38.500 --> 00:50:41.860
of every supplement you can imagine. He was like,

00:50:41.920 --> 00:50:45.199
why would he eat? He has a stomach full of this

00:50:45.199 --> 00:50:49.360
stuff. I mean, like, eat. food that your body

00:50:49.360 --> 00:50:52.260
is meant to process food and all that stuff's

00:50:52.260 --> 00:50:54.860
in there yeah exactly so you brought up a good

00:50:54.860 --> 00:50:57.679
valid point you know and it's almost it's embarrassing

00:50:57.679 --> 00:50:59.800
uh for two reasons it's embarrassing because

00:50:59.800 --> 00:51:02.559
i was doing it and oh and then number two now

00:51:02.559 --> 00:51:05.800
i'm thinking my parents had that am pm pill fucking

00:51:05.800 --> 00:51:08.880
thing oh yeah and now i'm my dad so now i gotta

00:51:08.880 --> 00:51:12.119
go back to the story at the am and pm one because

00:51:12.119 --> 00:51:14.639
i gotta take specific that's great yeah yeah

00:51:14.639 --> 00:51:18.010
well i mean like How are our bodies meant to

00:51:18.010 --> 00:51:19.510
- You're getting old. Yeah. Wait till you not

00:51:19.510 --> 00:51:22.989
know what day it is. Shit, Monday or do the Wednesday?

00:51:23.130 --> 00:51:26.110
Did I take today's already? Look, I fully support

00:51:26.110 --> 00:51:29.510
supplementation. I have nothing wrong with that.

00:51:29.590 --> 00:51:33.030
But ideally, get things. If you can do things

00:51:33.030 --> 00:51:34.949
the natural way, get it through food. Absolutely.

00:51:35.130 --> 00:51:37.750
Whole foods, particularly. Yeah, yeah. Meats,

00:51:37.750 --> 00:51:40.630
vegetables, and fruits. Get your B vitamins from

00:51:40.630 --> 00:51:44.119
Spam. Everything. Not the frozen pizza. Actually.

00:51:45.260 --> 00:51:46.739
Vegetables. That's what you put the spam on.

00:51:46.800 --> 00:51:49.059
That's the zinc. Zinc and magnesium come from

00:51:49.059 --> 00:51:52.179
frozen pizza. So whole foods are the only thing

00:51:52.179 --> 00:51:54.780
that they can prove are fully metabolized by

00:51:54.780 --> 00:51:56.760
the body. Right. Yeah. So supplements, that's

00:51:56.760 --> 00:51:58.559
why the FDA doesn't oversee them because they

00:51:58.559 --> 00:52:01.340
still don't have proof that all of that is sufficiently

00:52:01.340 --> 00:52:05.519
metabolized. Right. So we might be duped into

00:52:05.519 --> 00:52:07.139
thinking all these pills we're taking actually

00:52:07.139 --> 00:52:10.300
get metabolized. That's right. Do you recommend

00:52:10.300 --> 00:52:13.119
us getting like methylated tests to even know

00:52:13.119 --> 00:52:15.039
what we're really supposed to be taking anyways?

00:52:15.320 --> 00:52:17.559
I have no problems with getting a broad spectrum

00:52:17.559 --> 00:52:19.840
blood work done on you at least once a year.

00:52:22.579 --> 00:52:24.500
He's talking about a methylation test, which

00:52:24.500 --> 00:52:25.679
is a little bit different. That's going to be

00:52:25.679 --> 00:52:28.519
a DNA test to see if your body has a methylation.

00:52:28.619 --> 00:52:31.679
How does it methylize elements in the body? And

00:52:31.679 --> 00:52:33.840
if you have a methylation deficiency, then you

00:52:33.840 --> 00:52:37.639
need to get a methylation, or excuse me, a methylated

00:52:37.639 --> 00:52:40.900
supplement, because that's what will metabolize.

00:52:41.000 --> 00:52:42.820
Now, that's kind of an expensive thing. It's

00:52:42.820 --> 00:52:45.480
like 600 bucks. The mother effer gene that people

00:52:45.480 --> 00:52:50.119
talk about? The MFTR? It's a test you take. You

00:52:50.119 --> 00:52:51.949
know what I'm talking about? No? Okay. It's a

00:52:51.949 --> 00:52:56.909
test you take that your body is deficient. All

00:52:56.909 --> 00:52:59.070
of our bodies are deficient in something, or

00:52:59.070 --> 00:53:01.730
it doesn't metabolize things, a specific thing.

00:53:01.809 --> 00:53:04.610
That methylated test kind of has indicators that

00:53:04.610 --> 00:53:07.070
tells you what those are. Don't waste your time

00:53:07.070 --> 00:53:12.550
taking vitamin D8. Yeah, because your body can't.

00:53:12.590 --> 00:53:14.710
Yeah, well, it doesn't make sense. So it points

00:53:14.710 --> 00:53:16.750
out to like five or six. Here, take those. You

00:53:16.750 --> 00:53:17.949
don't need to take any of that other bullshit.

00:53:18.750 --> 00:53:20.750
It kind of dumbs it down. Maybe it'll bring my

00:53:20.750 --> 00:53:23.690
pill count down from 13 to like three or four.

00:53:23.849 --> 00:53:26.150
Man, I tell you. So we've been all over the place

00:53:26.150 --> 00:53:29.469
in terms of things to improve our wellness. It's

00:53:29.469 --> 00:53:32.369
overwhelming, man. Yeah, there's a lot. We talk

00:53:32.369 --> 00:53:34.150
about it a lot on the podcast. Well, this is

00:53:34.150 --> 00:53:36.230
great. This has actually been a fantastic podcast,

00:53:36.369 --> 00:53:38.610
this one right here. But the average American,

00:53:38.789 --> 00:53:41.030
man, they can't keep up with all this shit. They

00:53:41.030 --> 00:53:44.929
can't. I got as much as I get into it. Just keep

00:53:44.929 --> 00:53:47.489
it simple. Start your day with some scrambled

00:53:47.489 --> 00:53:53.570
eggs. Super easy. We need a place map of the

00:53:53.570 --> 00:53:56.849
simple night chart. The simple 22 things to do.

00:53:56.949 --> 00:53:58.829
I don't want to see a food pyramid. I want a

00:53:58.829 --> 00:54:00.809
food square. Fuck that food pyramid because it

00:54:00.809 --> 00:54:02.929
was upside down in the first place. I'll summarize

00:54:02.929 --> 00:54:05.690
it to you in a very simple format. Number one,

00:54:05.690 --> 00:54:08.309
get plenty of sleep. Sleep is huge. Start there.

00:54:08.489 --> 00:54:10.510
Get plenty of sleep. Get the right amount of

00:54:10.510 --> 00:54:12.590
sunlight at the right spectrum during the day,

00:54:12.650 --> 00:54:14.210
mornings, evenings, a little bit in the meeting,

00:54:14.309 --> 00:54:18.179
in the afternoon. Make your diet. Nutritious.

00:54:18.179 --> 00:54:21.079
Keep it simple. Whole foods. Get rid of the ultra

00:54:21.079 --> 00:54:24.159
-processed foods. Limit your sugars. No more

00:54:24.159 --> 00:54:27.280
charcuterie boards? No, you don't. All of the

00:54:27.280 --> 00:54:29.539
fad diets. I did a charcuterie board every Sunday.

00:54:30.039 --> 00:54:33.280
I went tonight. Yeah, fad diets are a fad for

00:54:33.280 --> 00:54:35.039
a reason. They come and go. But at the end of

00:54:35.039 --> 00:54:37.480
the day, a whole foods diet is what our bodies

00:54:37.480 --> 00:54:40.019
are made for. Meat, fruit, vegetables. If you

00:54:40.019 --> 00:54:42.260
keep your diet to that, you can really kind of

00:54:42.260 --> 00:54:44.460
maintain it and just keep reasonable portions.

00:54:44.579 --> 00:54:46.960
You don't have to calorie count, right? I do.

00:54:47.079 --> 00:54:49.239
You put your timing, you know, you don't have

00:54:49.239 --> 00:54:51.059
it too late in the day, too early in the morning.

00:54:51.119 --> 00:54:52.679
You don't pile it around the middle of the day

00:54:52.679 --> 00:54:54.059
instead of spreading it out through that. I mean,

00:54:54.079 --> 00:54:56.500
just simple stuff, right? And then from there,

00:54:56.559 --> 00:54:59.099
moderate amount of exercise. If you're doing

00:54:59.099 --> 00:55:02.840
resistance. Your muscles are strong. Strong muscles

00:55:02.840 --> 00:55:05.239
lead to strong bones. Strong bones produce red

00:55:05.239 --> 00:55:07.239
blood cells, maintain your testosterone levels,

00:55:07.400 --> 00:55:09.800
hormone levels, estrogen, et cetera. And that

00:55:09.800 --> 00:55:12.179
is your key to longevity. The more muscle you

00:55:12.179 --> 00:55:14.699
have, the better. Now, here's the other thing

00:55:14.699 --> 00:55:16.260
that I learned through a trainer, too. You don't

00:55:16.260 --> 00:55:18.559
have to sit around and pump iron to do it. I

00:55:18.559 --> 00:55:21.480
was tearing muscles left and right. So I went

00:55:21.480 --> 00:55:24.659
to a therapist. Guy's a great guy. He's out of

00:55:24.659 --> 00:55:28.429
California. Works with nothing but pros. He was

00:55:28.429 --> 00:55:31.130
going through my full workout regimen with me

00:55:31.130 --> 00:55:33.289
and all of my medical history, all my medical

00:55:33.289 --> 00:55:34.969
records. And he was like, Greg, what in the heck

00:55:34.969 --> 00:55:36.769
are you doing, man? You're not a linebacker in

00:55:36.769 --> 00:55:39.289
college. I mean, what is going on? I'm like,

00:55:39.369 --> 00:55:40.869
what do you mean? He was like, you know why Tom

00:55:40.869 --> 00:55:43.110
Brady had such a long career? Because he didn't

00:55:43.110 --> 00:55:46.070
go to the weight room. He didn't go to the weight

00:55:46.070 --> 00:55:47.889
room. He goes, you need to get off the weights.

00:55:48.469 --> 00:55:51.050
Everything that you can do. But they say weight

00:55:51.050 --> 00:55:53.849
training is all about what you. It's about resistance.

00:55:54.170 --> 00:55:55.650
Yeah, it's about resistance. It's about resistance.

00:55:56.010 --> 00:55:57.719
Yeah, yeah. Your body weight can give you all

00:55:57.719 --> 00:55:59.619
the resistance you need. You don't need to get

00:55:59.619 --> 00:56:01.579
on a bench press or throw out crazy dumbbells.

00:56:01.579 --> 00:56:04.360
You could do, you could do, you could do pushups

00:56:04.360 --> 00:56:07.119
and get that same thing. Right. And so he put

00:56:07.119 --> 00:56:09.639
me on a workout that was all body weight. So

00:56:09.639 --> 00:56:13.199
I do a mixture of what's like yoga slash functional

00:56:13.199 --> 00:56:16.519
slash plyometrics combined. And that's my exercise

00:56:16.519 --> 00:56:19.880
now. And that's it. And I'm just as strong as

00:56:19.880 --> 00:56:22.280
I've ever been. I even did a max at a friend's

00:56:22.280 --> 00:56:24.880
house a few months ago. And I put up the same

00:56:24.880 --> 00:56:26.599
amount of weight that I was putting up in college

00:56:26.599 --> 00:56:29.679
on a bench press, on a max. Nice. Interesting.

00:56:30.079 --> 00:56:32.519
Yeah. Shocking. You'd be shocked at what I could

00:56:32.519 --> 00:56:34.500
bench right now. And I'm not touching weights.

00:56:34.940 --> 00:56:37.860
I'm just doing pushups. So you're saying I should

00:56:37.860 --> 00:56:41.119
tell my wife to sign up for hot yoga. Oh, yeah.

00:56:41.750 --> 00:56:44.650
Okay. Oh, yeah. Okay. Take your sauerkraut and

00:56:44.650 --> 00:56:48.690
go into the yoga class. Get the fart in. Bomb

00:56:48.690 --> 00:56:52.949
it out. No. And you got to go with her and you

00:56:52.949 --> 00:56:54.289
got to get up front in the mirror so you can

00:56:54.289 --> 00:56:56.389
see everything behind and look for the little

00:56:56.389 --> 00:57:03.050
glow spot under the yoga pants. Wow. I'll have

00:57:03.050 --> 00:57:05.849
the brown spot in the back. Just as a side note,

00:57:05.909 --> 00:57:08.909
I had a roommate in college that was a male stripper,

00:57:09.010 --> 00:57:13.610
and he was always eating Starkist tuna cans and

00:57:13.610 --> 00:57:16.429
leaving them everywhere. Oh, no. And he was like,

00:57:16.530 --> 00:57:19.289
it's good protein, bro. I'm like, they stink.

00:57:19.389 --> 00:57:21.610
They stink to high heavens. I would like to bring

00:57:21.610 --> 00:57:23.690
a girl back to the room every now and again,

00:57:23.849 --> 00:57:27.449
and there's Starkist tuna cans everywhere, for

00:57:27.449 --> 00:57:32.010
the love of God. Smells like. Yeah. Don't finish

00:57:32.010 --> 00:57:34.690
that. Don't finish that. The house smells like

00:57:34.690 --> 00:57:37.670
Goldschlager vodka and Russian wokers. Yeah.

00:57:37.730 --> 00:57:40.010
Tony, bring that up. He loved Goldschlager. Then

00:57:40.010 --> 00:57:42.070
when his doctor does the blood work, his metal

00:57:42.070 --> 00:57:43.849
counts are going to be through the roof. And

00:57:43.849 --> 00:57:47.949
mercury. Yeah. Hey, that's another thing. Metals

00:57:47.949 --> 00:57:50.550
are in so many things that we do that absorb.

00:57:52.969 --> 00:57:55.250
Deodorants. Most of them have aluminum. He's

00:57:55.250 --> 00:57:58.409
aluminum. Yep. Detergents and shampoos and laundry.

00:57:59.679 --> 00:58:03.400
So one of my doctor did a toxicity test on me

00:58:03.400 --> 00:58:05.000
and went through the full spectrum. And he was

00:58:05.000 --> 00:58:06.179
like, man, you're high in all these different

00:58:06.179 --> 00:58:08.099
levels. And then he suggested these changes.

00:58:08.159 --> 00:58:10.019
I did them. And six months later, I had another

00:58:10.019 --> 00:58:11.639
blood test. And I saw how much of them dropped.

00:58:11.960 --> 00:58:14.519
So myself and a bunch of me and Greg's friends,

00:58:14.719 --> 00:58:19.699
I went down a real rabbit hole on this of whole

00:58:19.699 --> 00:58:22.599
home water filtration. And so I have a young

00:58:22.599 --> 00:58:26.820
son. And if you look, if you graph male testosterone

00:58:26.820 --> 00:58:29.900
from our. grandfather's generation to our generation

00:58:29.900 --> 00:58:33.900
it's a straight downward slope and so that hits

00:58:33.900 --> 00:58:35.760
on a number of different levels one of which

00:58:35.760 --> 00:58:38.559
is we started a huge experiment on the female

00:58:38.559 --> 00:58:41.480
population in the 1960s of taking birth control

00:58:41.480 --> 00:58:46.579
all of our water is reclaimed water so when you

00:58:46.579 --> 00:58:48.960
know your gray water leaves your house it goes

00:58:48.960 --> 00:58:51.579
to a reclamation center they filter out the the

00:58:51.579 --> 00:58:54.829
urine they filter out the poop And then they

00:58:54.829 --> 00:58:56.469
send it back to you. What they don't filter out

00:58:56.469 --> 00:58:59.530
is ethanol estradiol, which is what is in birth

00:58:59.530 --> 00:59:02.650
control. And so that's coming back to the entire

00:59:02.650 --> 00:59:05.150
population. That's why young girls are starting

00:59:05.150 --> 00:59:08.070
their periods way too soon. Is it because they're

00:59:08.070 --> 00:59:09.969
drinking it or they're absorbing it through showers?

00:59:10.769 --> 00:59:15.750
Yes. And all of us are. And it's not just our

00:59:15.750 --> 00:59:17.309
young girls. That's why I'm getting these breasts?

00:59:17.710 --> 00:59:22.519
Absolutely. Part of it. I knew it. I knew. So

00:59:22.519 --> 00:59:25.440
was it me. It's someone else's fault. There's

00:59:25.440 --> 00:59:27.480
actually 71 reasons why. Are they sensitive?

00:59:28.280 --> 00:59:33.380
Yeah, exactly. Very large aerial moon pies. But

00:59:33.380 --> 00:59:36.380
this is affecting all of us. And it's not just

00:59:36.380 --> 00:59:40.199
our water. It's also the phthalates in all of

00:59:40.199 --> 00:59:42.219
our soaps and detergents. And that's what Greg

00:59:42.219 --> 00:59:46.000
was about to talk about. And it's also the chemicals

00:59:46.000 --> 00:59:48.679
that are in our food. And it's all of this stuff.

00:59:49.389 --> 00:59:51.789
Put a whole home water filtration system on my

00:59:51.789 --> 00:59:54.949
house, changed up all my soaps, all my detergents,

00:59:55.030 --> 00:59:58.369
all the things that my kid's touching so that

00:59:58.369 --> 01:00:01.190
it's not plastics, it's not the phthalates, it's

01:00:01.190 --> 01:00:05.289
not the ethanol estradiol in the water system.

01:00:05.610 --> 01:00:07.650
And, you know, hopefully he'll turn out to be

01:00:07.650 --> 01:00:09.389
a doctor or something. But you only brought up

01:00:09.389 --> 01:00:12.559
one. I mean, surely there's more. I mean, what

01:00:12.559 --> 01:00:14.820
about the fluoride? Oh, you mean things in the

01:00:14.820 --> 01:00:17.139
water, yeah. Oh, there's a whole lot. And you've

01:00:17.139 --> 01:00:19.340
got forever chemicals that your liver doesn't

01:00:19.340 --> 01:00:21.539
filter out, too. Microplastics. I mean, is that

01:00:21.539 --> 01:00:23.900
coming through our system, too? I'm assuming

01:00:23.900 --> 01:00:26.519
it is. Well, you're even getting that from Tupperware

01:00:26.519 --> 01:00:28.960
and storage containers. Yeah. So we got rid of

01:00:28.960 --> 01:00:31.159
all the plastic in our house. So everything that

01:00:31.159 --> 01:00:34.460
we eat is either out of glass or metal. Everything

01:00:34.460 --> 01:00:37.980
we try to, nothing should have a barcode on it,

01:00:37.980 --> 01:00:40.099
that kind of thing. And that's kind of hard because

01:00:40.099 --> 01:00:42.559
when you go to the grocery store. Yeah. You know.

01:00:43.050 --> 01:00:45.570
These guys are so idiots. I mean, imagine you

01:00:45.570 --> 01:00:47.090
go to these grocery stores and we don't have

01:00:47.090 --> 01:00:49.969
the plastic bags to give you your groceries in.

01:00:50.010 --> 01:00:52.349
I was like, you dumb motherfucker. I got a plastic

01:00:52.349 --> 01:00:56.550
jug of milk. You gave me my meat in plastic and

01:00:56.550 --> 01:00:58.349
all this shit's in plastic and you're giving

01:00:58.349 --> 01:01:00.190
me shit because I'm putting a plastic bag in

01:01:00.190 --> 01:01:02.659
and taking it home. No, it's hard to miss out.

01:01:02.760 --> 01:01:04.719
And, you know, obviously, don't leave it in a

01:01:04.719 --> 01:01:08.280
hot car in Texas. Yeah, don't microwave your

01:01:08.280 --> 01:01:11.800
foods on the internet. Yeah. They say it's microwave

01:01:11.800 --> 01:01:15.099
safe. Yeah, it's not. And, you know, I always

01:01:15.099 --> 01:01:17.579
made fun of the hippies for all this. Yeah, no,

01:01:17.599 --> 01:01:20.179
seriously. I did, too. I used to literally tease

01:01:20.179 --> 01:01:22.420
these guys I knew that were talking about this.

01:01:22.460 --> 01:01:25.280
Yeah, right. Like, organic schmorgan. Come on.

01:01:25.460 --> 01:01:28.429
Right. And now I've learned that, ooh. These

01:01:28.429 --> 01:01:30.449
guys actually had it right. Well, I've gotten

01:01:30.449 --> 01:01:36.090
into doing a lot of my own food. I grind my own

01:01:36.090 --> 01:01:39.199
meat. Oh yeah. I'll buy a big brisket and I'll

01:01:39.199 --> 01:01:42.539
grind it. Yeah, absolutely. So I'm starting to

01:01:42.539 --> 01:01:46.119
get along that path. Here we go. Actually, they

01:01:46.119 --> 01:01:48.539
get to eat all that. They get to eat my meal.

01:01:48.739 --> 01:01:54.480
I subscribe to the real man. His meat is very

01:01:54.480 --> 01:01:57.380
girthy. Do you do any hunting? No hunting. I'd

01:01:57.380 --> 01:02:00.480
like to. He hunts Kroger for the best steels.

01:02:00.800 --> 01:02:03.280
He was very successful. No, I was not successful.

01:02:04.809 --> 01:02:07.070
Because it's not a real animal. It's mythical.

01:02:07.670 --> 01:02:09.510
Well, that's a fun hobby where you could put

01:02:09.510 --> 01:02:11.650
some organic meat in your freezer to feed your

01:02:11.650 --> 01:02:13.349
family with. Well, you've had, what, four years

01:02:13.349 --> 01:02:15.050
in yours? I could tell my wife that. I don't

01:02:15.050 --> 01:02:19.010
want to talk about it. Yeah, there's an organic

01:02:19.010 --> 01:02:21.769
meat joke for your wife to insert there. I just

01:02:21.769 --> 01:02:25.110
renamed your thing freezer. My organic meat in

01:02:25.110 --> 01:02:27.389
there. All right, look, we're jumping the shark

01:02:27.389 --> 01:02:29.510
here. We're going to talk about our whiskey of

01:02:29.510 --> 01:02:33.230
the day, the whiskey of the second half. Jump

01:02:33.230 --> 01:02:37.690
in there, Paul. Tell us. Yeah, this is, okay,

01:02:37.829 --> 01:02:42.190
so this is the Rebel Distillers Collection bourbon

01:02:42.190 --> 01:02:45.210
whiskey. It's weeded. It is a weeded. It's a

01:02:45.210 --> 01:02:49.730
weeded bourbon. So yeah, it's a, wow, it is 56

01:02:49.730 --> 01:02:54.630
.5%. So 113, right? 113 proof. 113 proof. Does

01:02:54.630 --> 01:02:57.070
it taste 113 proof to you guys? Does it taste

01:02:57.070 --> 01:03:00.039
strong? Not really, man. Look at her face. Not

01:03:00.039 --> 01:03:05.300
at all. I just pooped a little. That is no slouch.

01:03:05.480 --> 01:03:08.019
All right. So this came from Luxro Distillers.

01:03:08.079 --> 01:03:09.860
Correct. In Bardstown, Kentucky. Very nice. I

01:03:09.860 --> 01:03:11.739
got to tell you, when Luxro was putting out some

01:03:11.739 --> 01:03:15.139
of the first stuff, I wasn't on board with it.

01:03:15.179 --> 01:03:18.480
But last week and this week with Luxro, I'm kind

01:03:18.480 --> 01:03:21.320
of impressed. I like this. I do, too. I'm a fan

01:03:21.320 --> 01:03:22.440
of this. And this is a single barrel. When I

01:03:22.440 --> 01:03:24.480
first took the – when I said it at the very beginning

01:03:24.480 --> 01:03:26.579
of the podcast, that first pool I took off, I

01:03:26.579 --> 01:03:28.760
did not care for it. It was very stringent to

01:03:28.760 --> 01:03:33.059
me. But it's opened up, and it's much, much better.

01:03:33.219 --> 01:03:35.639
By chance, has it become defiantly smooth, like

01:03:35.639 --> 01:03:37.559
it says on the bottle? It actually did. Because,

01:03:37.599 --> 01:03:40.260
like I said, the first pool I had was very stringent

01:03:40.260 --> 01:03:43.019
to me. It was not easy to drink. I think it's

01:03:43.019 --> 01:03:45.420
outstanding. And this is a store pick from Liquor

01:03:45.420 --> 01:03:48.719
King. So if you guys don't, look, if you guys

01:03:48.719 --> 01:03:52.230
are bourbon whiskey enthusiasts, People out there

01:03:52.230 --> 01:03:55.969
listening, if you're at Total Wine or Liquor

01:03:55.969 --> 01:03:59.150
King or whatever is your preferred whiskey vendor,

01:03:59.389 --> 01:04:02.650
go for the store picks. If there's a store pick,

01:04:02.789 --> 01:04:05.889
they may cost a couple bucks more, but they have

01:04:05.889 --> 01:04:09.510
a jam -packed fill. They're typically better.

01:04:10.569 --> 01:04:13.570
And these people that go to these distilleries

01:04:13.570 --> 01:04:15.570
and they pick out barrels, they know what they're

01:04:15.570 --> 01:04:17.130
doing. Yeah, there's a reason why it's a hemp.

01:04:17.130 --> 01:04:19.010
Yeah, they know what they're doing. So trust

01:04:19.010 --> 01:04:22.190
them on it. Small batch stuff is good for just

01:04:22.190 --> 01:04:24.429
regular stuff. Hey, look, I need a bottle of

01:04:24.429 --> 01:04:26.369
Maker's Mark. I need a bottle of Crown. I need

01:04:26.369 --> 01:04:29.449
a bottle of Jack Daniels. That's all just blended

01:04:29.449 --> 01:04:32.469
stuff that's normal, hits the mark every single

01:04:32.469 --> 01:04:35.670
time. If you get a store pick, that's something

01:04:35.670 --> 01:04:39.019
special. It's a barrel pick. Or a small batch

01:04:39.019 --> 01:04:42.980
pick that's specific. We've had a lot of success.

01:04:43.179 --> 01:04:49.099
Rare characters. We have a few store picks out

01:04:49.099 --> 01:04:52.219
there. And they're also methylated with high

01:04:52.219 --> 01:04:54.400
ND3, I think. You don't even need the methylation

01:04:54.400 --> 01:04:59.500
test for that. Is this going to metabolize correctly?

01:04:59.719 --> 01:05:03.639
I think so. I'm going to go over the... Aromas

01:05:03.639 --> 01:05:05.639
and stuff real quick. Did you guys want to do

01:05:05.639 --> 01:05:08.699
that? Rubble Distillers Collection 113 Proof

01:05:08.699 --> 01:05:10.539
features tasty notes of caramel, vanilla, bacon,

01:05:10.599 --> 01:05:13.199
spices like cinnamon and allspice and oak. The

01:05:13.199 --> 01:05:14.760
palate is generally described as having honey,

01:05:14.820 --> 01:05:18.019
butter, corn, and dried fruit notes with a finish

01:05:18.019 --> 01:05:20.639
that is warm and can have hints of black pepper

01:05:20.639 --> 01:05:23.679
and dry oak. As a weeded bourbon, it provides

01:05:23.679 --> 01:05:27.679
a softer, sweeter profile compared to a rye forward

01:05:27.679 --> 01:05:29.260
bourbon. Does it have the mash bill on there?

01:05:30.989 --> 01:05:32.969
It does not have the mash pool. I'm just curious

01:05:32.969 --> 01:05:36.329
how high the weed is. It's guaranteed to... Does

01:05:36.329 --> 01:05:38.949
it have the mash pool on there? It does not.

01:05:39.469 --> 01:05:41.889
Tell you what, the cinnamon, I definitely picked

01:05:41.889 --> 01:05:44.949
up the cinnamon on this. And I think it was maybe

01:05:44.949 --> 01:05:47.730
the pepper that got me that first pool that I

01:05:47.730 --> 01:05:50.710
had. You know what's queer? And it's just...

01:05:50.889 --> 01:05:53.630
odd or something it's just we talk about this

01:05:53.630 --> 01:05:56.170
a lot you know when whenever we see something

01:05:56.170 --> 01:05:59.130
um and we're talking about taste or smells or

01:05:59.130 --> 01:06:01.110
something it's just like you know i just i read

01:06:01.110 --> 01:06:03.489
that you know buttered corn and it's just like

01:06:03.489 --> 01:06:05.250
i would have never came up with buttered corn

01:06:05.250 --> 01:06:08.469
but now that i taste it it puts it in your head

01:06:08.469 --> 01:06:10.969
yeah it's fucking buttered corn i mean is the

01:06:10.969 --> 01:06:13.869
power suggestion but there it is it's there i

01:06:13.869 --> 01:06:16.869
could taste it and also not like corn on the

01:06:16.869 --> 01:06:20.159
cob you know You just need Gary Busey and buttered

01:06:20.159 --> 01:06:23.860
sausage. I do get some buttered sausage. That

01:06:23.860 --> 01:06:27.880
guy, he's such a nut, man. What the hell? Buttered

01:06:27.880 --> 01:06:30.900
sausage? Oh, man, he's a fucking nut. Man, I'll

01:06:30.900 --> 01:06:34.239
tell you a quick story. Look up Busey buttered

01:06:34.239 --> 01:06:37.980
sausage. I'll give you a quick story about Gary

01:06:37.980 --> 01:06:40.800
Busey. I worked at the Four Seasons Resort, and

01:06:40.800 --> 01:06:42.840
he was staying in one of the villas out there,

01:06:42.940 --> 01:06:48.260
and he brought a hooker. Back to the villa with

01:06:48.260 --> 01:06:51.940
him. And she was having her period, and he thought

01:06:51.940 --> 01:06:55.559
he killed her. And called security, and it was

01:06:55.559 --> 01:06:58.599
a big freaking ordeal. I hope he's not married.

01:06:58.679 --> 01:07:00.280
Is he married? Because he listens to our podcast.

01:07:00.519 --> 01:07:02.880
Well, you know, him and his buttered sausage.

01:07:03.099 --> 01:07:06.119
So, Gary Busey, butter sauce revealed. Series

01:07:06.119 --> 01:07:07.920
of internet memes. Go to the videos and pull

01:07:07.920 --> 01:07:11.019
up the video. Let's talk about your cable ace

01:07:11.019 --> 01:07:13.400
award. Let's talk about buttered sausage. Talk

01:07:13.400 --> 01:07:15.219
about buttered sausage, where it comes from,

01:07:15.280 --> 01:07:17.320
what it does, why is it doing what it's doing,

01:07:17.400 --> 01:07:21.019
get it out of my face. Is he high? Of course

01:07:21.019 --> 01:07:24.659
he is. That's not Gary Busey. Who is that? Is

01:07:24.659 --> 01:07:26.900
that AI? No, it's just some guy doing a spoof.

01:07:29.280 --> 01:07:31.900
That's not really Gary Busey? No, it's not. I

01:07:31.900 --> 01:07:34.179
always thought that was Gary Busey. He's like

01:07:34.179 --> 01:07:36.909
an impersonator? Yeah, he is. That's incredible.

01:07:36.909 --> 01:07:39.909
He didn't blink once. Oh, my God. Wow. Is that

01:07:39.909 --> 01:07:42.349
AI or something? No, no. There's this guy that

01:07:42.349 --> 01:07:45.130
does this knockoff of him, and he did this video

01:07:45.130 --> 01:07:47.989
on this interview there, and it went online.

01:07:48.010 --> 01:07:49.809
I bet you he's the guy that was at your Four

01:07:49.809 --> 01:07:53.630
Seasons. No, that was real. That was real. No,

01:07:53.650 --> 01:07:56.750
I'll tell you who's - That was in 1996, 97. I'll

01:07:56.750 --> 01:07:57.889
tell you who's banned from the Four Seasons.

01:07:59.329 --> 01:08:02.230
Go on. Was he really? No, he was banned. He got

01:08:02.230 --> 01:08:03.670
banned from the Four Seasons after that. Gary

01:08:03.670 --> 01:08:07.530
Busey did. Oops. Oh, you're trying to think of

01:08:07.530 --> 01:08:11.369
him? No, the pilot actor guy. He's a pilot. He's

01:08:11.369 --> 01:08:14.889
got the jumbo jets. John Travolta. Travolta's

01:08:14.889 --> 01:08:18.670
banned from getting massages. Where did you hear

01:08:18.670 --> 01:08:22.550
that? From the spa manager at the Four Seasons

01:08:22.550 --> 01:08:26.510
in Irving. That's it. I was working there at

01:08:26.510 --> 01:08:28.710
that time. Dude, that seems to be an epidemic.

01:08:29.090 --> 01:08:31.890
That was a long ass time ago. There were two

01:08:31.890 --> 01:08:35.720
massage therapists that were just arrested. up

01:08:35.720 --> 01:08:40.060
in prosper oh for yeah for inappropriate dude

01:08:40.060 --> 01:08:42.720
what is the epidemic about going to massages

01:08:42.720 --> 01:08:46.220
and and it's the old rub and tug man that's that's

01:08:46.220 --> 01:08:49.880
that's a new look look i know most men out there

01:08:49.880 --> 01:08:53.619
that get a massage need to really just Let it

01:08:53.619 --> 01:08:55.539
all out. Have it all released. It's called the

01:08:55.539 --> 01:08:58.819
happy ending. Well, Travolta wasn't getting them

01:08:58.819 --> 01:09:01.020
from female massage therapists. That was the

01:09:01.020 --> 01:09:03.340
weird thing. That was the weird thing. He was

01:09:03.340 --> 01:09:09.359
requesting a male, and it was deep tissue. And

01:09:09.359 --> 01:09:12.619
then there's a Swedish deep tissue. Again, allegedly.

01:09:13.819 --> 01:09:17.149
Allegedly. Allegedly, all I know is allegedly

01:09:17.149 --> 01:09:19.630
he was banned from getting massages there. No,

01:09:19.729 --> 01:09:24.050
it's not alleged. I can verify right now I was

01:09:24.050 --> 01:09:30.529
there. I read the memo. The internal memo. Did

01:09:30.529 --> 01:09:33.149
they, like, staple his Scientology card to it,

01:09:33.210 --> 01:09:36.550
the memo? Is he in Scientology? Yeah. Oh, yeah.

01:09:36.789 --> 01:09:39.289
Yeah, big time. You know, good for him because

01:09:39.289 --> 01:09:42.310
I don't hear shit about it. I think their membership

01:09:42.310 --> 01:09:44.770
has kind of dropped off a little bit. He made

01:09:44.770 --> 01:09:48.390
a movie. That movie he made, Battlefield Earth,

01:09:48.609 --> 01:09:52.130
that just tanked, was based off of Scientology.

01:09:52.510 --> 01:09:57.069
Yeah. Battlefield Earth was written by L. Ron

01:09:57.069 --> 01:09:59.130
Hubbard. Let's do the rating real quick. For

01:09:59.130 --> 01:10:03.590
the Rebel... For the 115 or 113 proof range,

01:10:03.609 --> 01:10:07.430
that's in some good company. Yeah. I'm going

01:10:07.430 --> 01:10:10.569
to give it a 7 .9. I'm not that high. Oh, gosh.

01:10:10.750 --> 01:10:13.189
I'm going to give it a 6 .8. 6 .8? I was going

01:10:13.189 --> 01:10:17.489
6 .7. I'm going 6 .5. Damn. And I'm not a raider

01:10:17.489 --> 01:10:21.550
over here. You know what? I'm new for your rating

01:10:21.550 --> 01:10:22.810
system, but that's what I'm going to come up

01:10:22.810 --> 01:10:25.829
with. I think you're there. Yeah. I think you're

01:10:25.829 --> 01:10:28.869
there. Sounds fair. 6 .5. Yeah. Fair enough.

01:10:29.029 --> 01:10:31.449
Fair enough. I give it a high rating. I don't

01:10:31.449 --> 01:10:34.090
know. Well, you like it. That's all that matters.

01:10:34.210 --> 01:10:36.289
Hey, nothing wrong with that. Yeah. I got some

01:10:36.289 --> 01:10:38.090
water here. It's plain old water if anybody wants

01:10:38.090 --> 01:10:40.109
some. I mean, I've had worse. Well, I'm thinking

01:10:40.109 --> 01:10:42.750
it's boosting your flora right now, Sean. That

01:10:42.750 --> 01:10:44.770
may be why you're having that kind of emotional

01:10:44.770 --> 01:10:46.409
experience. The flora is thirsty. Is it fermented?

01:10:46.909 --> 01:10:49.869
Fermented. Fermented. Well, I'll tell you what.

01:10:49.909 --> 01:10:54.789
We went to Kubi's German grocery store, Ford

01:10:54.789 --> 01:10:56.750
slash restaurant in Dallas. Kubi's, if you don't

01:10:56.750 --> 01:11:00.189
know, I love German food. Grew up, not grew up,

01:11:00.250 --> 01:11:04.250
but I lived there for six, seven years. I just

01:11:04.250 --> 01:11:07.029
like the German pommes frites, the sausages.

01:11:07.449 --> 01:11:09.229
So we went there, and we bought a bunch of food,

01:11:09.289 --> 01:11:11.489
and we got a couple containers of the big sauerkraut.

01:11:11.649 --> 01:11:12.850
Why didn't you let me know? I would have gone

01:11:12.850 --> 01:11:15.689
down. Tara, how did the doctors appoint you?

01:11:15.710 --> 01:11:17.890
Oh, down there? Oh, yeah. It was just one of

01:11:17.890 --> 01:11:20.189
those things. You were busy. You were working.

01:11:20.409 --> 01:11:22.829
Hey, you know how the Germans make their sausage.

01:11:22.909 --> 01:11:24.130
You know what kind of meat they're using, right?

01:11:24.310 --> 01:11:27.829
Oh, no. All kinds. They're using wild boar. It's

01:11:27.829 --> 01:11:30.539
not domesticated. Nice. Yeah. In fact, the Germans

01:11:30.539 --> 01:11:34.460
buy a ton of wild boar out of Texas. There's

01:11:34.460 --> 01:11:36.340
a big market. There's a lot of people around

01:11:36.340 --> 01:11:39.079
Texas that are trapping hogs and selling them,

01:11:39.140 --> 01:11:41.359
and they're all going to Galveston, hitting the

01:11:41.359 --> 01:11:42.939
boat, and going to Germany. They're being sold.

01:11:42.960 --> 01:11:46.140
Are they shooting them from a helicopter? If

01:11:46.140 --> 01:11:48.939
you were with me last weekend, you did. Did you

01:11:48.939 --> 01:11:51.979
go to that one? So, yeah, I'm coming off of a

01:11:51.979 --> 01:11:55.680
helicopter hunt from this last weekend. I'm still

01:11:55.680 --> 01:11:58.859
probably - I'm glowing from it. You can play

01:11:58.859 --> 01:12:00.159
some Tchaikovsky in the background. That's got

01:12:00.159 --> 01:12:02.520
to be the ultimate man experience. Man, it was.

01:12:02.640 --> 01:12:05.260
Were you shooting in .50 cal? No, no, no, no,

01:12:05.260 --> 01:12:07.760
no. Was it shotgun? So I do a lot of hog hunting

01:12:07.760 --> 01:12:10.560
in general. That's kind of what my - It's what

01:12:10.560 --> 01:12:12.979
excites me. It's got more skin in the game than

01:12:12.979 --> 01:12:14.819
just sitting in a blind shooting at deer. It

01:12:14.819 --> 01:12:16.220
can actually kill you if you're on the ground.

01:12:16.460 --> 01:12:17.579
Yeah, there's skin on the game. You've got to

01:12:17.579 --> 01:12:19.060
get your kill in. If not, they can turn around

01:12:19.060 --> 01:12:20.720
and come at you. They're not the friendliest

01:12:20.720 --> 01:12:22.619
of animals. In fact, they're rather vicious,

01:12:22.880 --> 01:12:26.039
angry little creatures. Yeah, those are the reasons

01:12:26.039 --> 01:12:28.880
why their magazine counts so high. That's exactly

01:12:28.880 --> 01:12:32.760
right. You've got to take them all down. Well,

01:12:32.800 --> 01:12:35.000
it's a pandemic here in Texas. We went from a

01:12:35.000 --> 01:12:37.100
few pigs that got out from domesticated farms,

01:12:37.220 --> 01:12:38.819
and now we're sitting on the range of three and

01:12:38.819 --> 01:12:40.409
a half. to four and a half million not quite

01:12:40.409 --> 01:12:44.989
sure i mean every sow gives birth to anywhere

01:12:44.989 --> 01:12:49.189
between 16 to 24 piglets in a year they have

01:12:49.189 --> 01:12:51.569
two gestation parents that's a losing battle

01:12:51.569 --> 01:12:53.750
i can tell you yeah it's a lot so i mean there's

01:12:53.750 --> 01:12:56.289
a there's a lot of pigs in texas it's grown out

01:12:56.289 --> 01:12:58.649
of control this is for germany it's good for

01:12:58.649 --> 01:13:01.739
germany it's good for sausage buttered sausage

01:13:01.739 --> 01:13:13.300
do you eat the board you shoot yeah sometimes

01:13:13.300 --> 01:13:15.899
like I don't at first I ate everything like I

01:13:15.899 --> 01:13:19.199
was into it and I was shooting and keeping everything

01:13:19.199 --> 01:13:21.340
and making sausage and all my friends had full

01:13:21.340 --> 01:13:26.640
freezers that's not true that's a myth that is

01:13:26.640 --> 01:13:29.199
that I can bust right here exactly I fantastic

01:13:29.869 --> 01:13:31.890
I'll describe it to you, all right? Here's the

01:13:31.890 --> 01:13:37.050
difference between store -bought pork and wild

01:13:37.050 --> 01:13:41.430
pork. So let me give an example of dry -aged

01:13:41.430 --> 01:13:44.710
beef, right? You dry -age the beef to remove

01:13:44.710 --> 01:13:49.130
moisture so there's less moisture content, more

01:13:49.130 --> 01:13:51.109
muscle strand content, so you have more of a

01:13:51.109 --> 01:13:54.109
protein flavor. So you taste more of that beef

01:13:54.109 --> 01:13:57.529
-rich protein in dry -aged beef, right? That's

01:13:57.529 --> 01:14:00.579
how I would describe wild boar. It has more of

01:14:00.579 --> 01:14:03.739
that protein flavor in it than store -bought.

01:14:03.859 --> 01:14:07.140
It's naturally desiccated. Yeah, it's like store

01:14:07.140 --> 01:14:09.260
-bought is corn -fed, fattened up just for the

01:14:09.260 --> 01:14:12.859
sale and the slaughter. Wild boars foraging on

01:14:12.859 --> 01:14:15.420
whatever, right? It's a leaner meat. Free range.

01:14:15.880 --> 01:14:17.539
Yeah, it's free range. Well, I mean, there's

01:14:17.539 --> 01:14:18.960
some nasty characters. They'll eat anything.

01:14:19.159 --> 01:14:20.859
They'll eat themselves. They'll eat trash. They'll

01:14:20.859 --> 01:14:24.199
eat roots. They'll eat whatever. They do. They're

01:14:24.199 --> 01:14:27.760
opportunists. They are special creatures. They're

01:14:27.760 --> 01:14:32.329
crazy. But the meat is actually fantastic. I

01:14:32.329 --> 01:14:34.210
mean, you can look like I'll shoot a pig and

01:14:34.210 --> 01:14:37.149
I'll look at it and I can tell if it's like jacked

01:14:37.149 --> 01:14:39.329
up. Like you can see sores and you can see problems

01:14:39.329 --> 01:14:40.930
with it. And it's like, yeah, don't touch that.

01:14:40.989 --> 01:14:43.470
Yeah. But otherwise, it's going to be pretty.

01:14:44.230 --> 01:14:46.350
As long as you're using clean techniques, gloves,

01:14:46.510 --> 01:14:49.409
and sanitary to cut it and keep the meat and

01:14:49.409 --> 01:14:52.609
process it, right? So I do all my own processing.

01:14:52.770 --> 01:14:54.890
I learned to do that as a kid, and so I don't

01:14:54.890 --> 01:14:58.310
go to a taxidermist to have meat processed. I

01:14:58.310 --> 01:15:00.810
do it myself. So I cut it from the field, right?

01:15:00.909 --> 01:15:03.270
If I'm going to keep something, I keep the choice,

01:15:03.329 --> 01:15:05.050
cut some meat. I just cut it across the backstrap.

01:15:05.130 --> 01:15:06.710
I don't even feel dressed as pigs anymore. There's

01:15:06.710 --> 01:15:08.529
no need to gut it. Just cut the back of it down,

01:15:08.609 --> 01:15:10.069
pull off some of the hide, and then cut some

01:15:10.069 --> 01:15:11.949
backstrap and shoulder meat. Especially if you're

01:15:11.949 --> 01:15:14.090
killing enough of them. Bam. Yeah. Put some of

01:15:14.090 --> 01:15:16.229
that fat, drop it in a Ziploc. It's in the cooler.

01:15:16.289 --> 01:15:18.130
It's on the grill or in the freezer that night.

01:15:19.289 --> 01:15:21.550
Damn. Oh, yeah. That sounds awesome. And you

01:15:21.550 --> 01:15:24.850
can hunt it 24 hours a day, 365 days a year.

01:15:24.930 --> 01:15:27.289
All you need is a hunting license. So I've got

01:15:27.289 --> 01:15:29.989
a suppressed rifle. I've got infrared scopes.

01:15:30.029 --> 01:15:31.409
And I'm out there like suited. Where are you

01:15:31.409 --> 01:15:34.770
doing all this? Well, I got a lease that I lease

01:15:34.770 --> 01:15:36.250
out for deer hunting. They let me do it year

01:15:36.250 --> 01:15:39.239
round. I had a piece of property in West Texas

01:15:39.239 --> 01:15:41.819
that I did for years as well, but now I'm out

01:15:41.819 --> 01:15:43.199
in East Texas. I got a lease out there. Okay,

01:15:43.199 --> 01:15:45.899
we're doing a Dudes Like Us outing. You guys

01:15:45.899 --> 01:15:47.420
are welcome to. You guys are welcome. I'm being

01:15:47.420 --> 01:15:49.020
serious. You want to shoot a pig? I would freaking

01:15:49.020 --> 01:15:51.319
love that. I'll take you out to shoot a pig.

01:15:51.319 --> 01:15:52.819
I'll put you on some pig and get some rounds

01:15:52.819 --> 01:15:54.699
down range. You want to get a kill in? Hell yeah.

01:15:55.220 --> 01:15:57.340
Oh, yeah, yeah. No, we'll knock them down, and

01:15:57.340 --> 01:15:59.199
then we can eat it if you want. I'm so willing

01:15:59.199 --> 01:16:00.800
to eat it. And the meat is fantastic. In fact,

01:16:00.920 --> 01:16:05.359
I make a breakfast sausage that I've given out

01:16:05.359 --> 01:16:07.850
to many people. And every single one of them

01:16:07.850 --> 01:16:09.810
has said the same thing. That's the best breakfast

01:16:09.810 --> 01:16:11.949
sausage I ever put in my mouth. Damn. And my

01:16:11.949 --> 01:16:14.329
kids will slop it up. They won't eat anything

01:16:14.329 --> 01:16:17.689
else wild game. Not even a fish I caught. But

01:16:17.689 --> 01:16:21.449
they will eat wild boar breakfast sausage if

01:16:21.449 --> 01:16:23.390
I make it. Because it's pretty darn good. So

01:16:23.390 --> 01:16:25.210
we went on this helicopter hunt this last week.

01:16:25.289 --> 01:16:27.569
I went with some guys at work. And we did this

01:16:27.569 --> 01:16:30.949
helo hunt just west of Fort Worth out on this

01:16:30.949 --> 01:16:34.789
ranch. It was like a 3 ,800 acre ranch. And got

01:16:34.789 --> 01:16:37.819
this. helicopter pilot that brings his chopper

01:16:37.819 --> 01:16:40.340
out. He drives it in on a trailer and takes it

01:16:40.340 --> 01:16:42.060
off from the trailer, lands it on there and everything.

01:16:42.140 --> 01:16:44.359
Brings in gas and everything and right in there

01:16:44.359 --> 01:16:47.739
refuels it. Doors all the way off. We're strapped

01:16:47.739 --> 01:16:50.060
in and basically leaning out the side. And man,

01:16:50.100 --> 01:16:51.819
this guy's a shark, man. He's going out there

01:16:51.819 --> 01:16:53.380
and herding them and getting them out in the

01:16:53.380 --> 01:16:55.840
right spot and we're just taking them down. And

01:16:55.840 --> 01:16:59.420
what are you shooting? Like, pigs. No, no, no.

01:16:59.760 --> 01:17:02.720
What's your weapon? Oh, so I used, he suggested,

01:17:02.979 --> 01:17:06.729
I had a 6 .5 Creedmoor. 6 .5 Creedmoor. Okay.

01:17:06.949 --> 01:17:08.590
This is what I brought with me, and then I brought

01:17:08.590 --> 01:17:10.850
my .300 Blackout because I always keep a night

01:17:10.850 --> 01:17:12.369
scope on it, and that's just my night hunting

01:17:12.369 --> 01:17:15.470
gun only. Okay. But I brought my 6 .5, and he

01:17:15.470 --> 01:17:18.329
suggested, like, several guys brought .308s,

01:17:18.329 --> 01:17:20.890
and one brought a .300 Win Mag, and he's like,

01:17:20.930 --> 01:17:23.829
man, you guys should probably use the .223, .556

01:17:23.829 --> 01:17:26.710
NATO round on that. One guy brought a whole bunch

01:17:26.710 --> 01:17:28.170
of rifles with him. He's like, hey, man, I got

01:17:28.170 --> 01:17:32.619
.556s for everybody. Basically ARs. Yeah. Yeah.

01:17:32.760 --> 01:17:35.199
It's on an AR platform. Yeah. M4, basically.

01:17:35.260 --> 01:17:37.840
So he handed out rifles to all of us, and we

01:17:37.840 --> 01:17:41.300
just used his. Oh, fun. Man, I was taking them

01:17:41.300 --> 01:17:47.340
down. I mean, we knocked down almost 135. I think

01:17:47.340 --> 01:17:50.939
the pilot counted 135 is what we took down. I

01:17:50.939 --> 01:17:52.779
probably had the lion's share of it because I

01:17:52.779 --> 01:17:55.739
was on point. I was knocking them down. I got

01:17:55.739 --> 01:17:57.260
a video of it, too. I could probably afford it.

01:17:57.319 --> 01:17:59.720
Now, do you leave them just laying there? Most

01:17:59.720 --> 01:18:01.960
of them, you're dead. You're laying there, or

01:18:01.960 --> 01:18:02.880
do you go back and collect them? Yeah, you're

01:18:02.880 --> 01:18:05.039
not landing and collecting them. This is ecology.

01:18:07.220 --> 01:18:10.359
You got the birds and the bugs. That's what I

01:18:10.359 --> 01:18:12.140
mean. It's a circle of life is what's going on.

01:18:20.370 --> 01:18:25.630
We're feeding. You feed the other hogs. You're

01:18:25.630 --> 01:18:28.029
just accelerating the circle of life. Yeah, absolutely.

01:18:28.470 --> 01:18:30.689
It was an amazing experience. I can't wait to

01:18:30.689 --> 01:18:31.850
do it again. We're going to go back next time.

01:18:31.970 --> 01:18:34.409
Did you go down and collect any of them for your

01:18:34.409 --> 01:18:38.270
freezer? Oh, hell no. Most of them are in pieces.

01:18:38.630 --> 01:18:40.529
I'm trying to get back to my deer lease before

01:18:40.529 --> 01:18:42.550
the deer season gets to take down as many as

01:18:42.550 --> 01:18:44.890
I can so that I can get some of the pig population

01:18:44.890 --> 01:18:47.329
curbed. There's absolutely no shortage. No, there's

01:18:47.329 --> 01:18:50.390
no shortage. We've got millions of pigs in Texas.

01:18:50.630 --> 01:18:53.149
We've got enough pigs in Texas. If we had partnered

01:18:53.149 --> 01:18:55.390
with the state and did a hunting program, we

01:18:55.390 --> 01:18:57.409
could feed everybody in the state with it. Nice.

01:18:57.750 --> 01:19:00.670
Absolutely. That is insane. Yeah. Dude, that

01:19:00.670 --> 01:19:02.989
sounds awesome. Yeah, it's fun. It's a lot of

01:19:02.989 --> 01:19:05.050
fun. Well, it sounds like they could have harvested

01:19:05.050 --> 01:19:08.270
those pigs and sent them off to Germany. Yeah.

01:19:08.329 --> 01:19:09.729
Probably could have made some money on that.

01:19:09.789 --> 01:19:11.850
Well, they like to buy them live. So you've got

01:19:11.850 --> 01:19:13.090
to trap them live and you've got to sell them

01:19:13.090 --> 01:19:16.029
live. You kind of let that off the wellness tip.

01:19:16.250 --> 01:19:18.609
You've got to go out and kill them. you know,

01:19:18.609 --> 01:19:22.989
wild boars. It's a, it's a pretty big point.

01:19:23.050 --> 01:19:24.670
That's a good way to boost that testosterone

01:19:24.670 --> 01:19:27.409
level and build, knock up the notches of the

01:19:27.409 --> 01:19:29.789
bad -ass level. Absolutely. You do it, dude.

01:19:30.229 --> 01:19:33.130
Oh, that's the best. Took her right. Hold on.

01:19:33.949 --> 01:19:36.390
Not that kind of hunt. I mean, I'm not, I'm not

01:19:36.390 --> 01:19:40.819
saying I have it. I'm just saying. That was back

01:19:40.819 --> 01:19:43.699
in the good old days. Last year. He's all like

01:19:43.699 --> 01:19:47.220
grease painted up. Oh, the good old days of 2024.

01:19:48.819 --> 01:19:53.020
Dude, it's been such a pleasure having you guys

01:19:53.020 --> 01:19:55.100
on the podcast. Thank you so much. Thank you.

01:19:55.140 --> 01:19:56.979
Nice good time. You guys have a good time? Had

01:19:56.979 --> 01:19:59.520
a great time. Best podcast I've been on. I would

01:19:59.520 --> 01:20:00.899
love for you guys to come out again. For sure.

01:20:00.920 --> 01:20:03.100
I would love to. We want to talk more about what

01:20:03.100 --> 01:20:04.680
you guys got going on because what you got going

01:20:04.680 --> 01:20:08.300
on is admirable and it's something that needs

01:20:08.300 --> 01:20:11.439
to It's what every dude like us needs to hear,

01:20:11.560 --> 01:20:15.119
man. We've got to take charge of our health,

01:20:15.380 --> 01:20:17.579
our mortality. We've got to take care of our

01:20:17.579 --> 01:20:19.199
health, but we've also got to take care of...

01:20:19.949 --> 01:20:22.170
fellow men and take care of those kids out there

01:20:22.170 --> 01:20:24.829
like fathers we're missing fathers and we got

01:20:24.829 --> 01:20:26.630
to talk about it we got to share the conversation

01:20:26.630 --> 01:20:29.050
and we got to get this going and let's get our

01:20:29.050 --> 01:20:32.270
country back on track one boy one man at a time

01:20:32.270 --> 01:20:35.109
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01:21:12.020 --> 01:21:14.180
taking the care of business. Shout out to Rebel.

01:21:14.539 --> 01:21:16.680
It used to be Rebel Yell. It used to be Rebel

01:21:16.680 --> 01:21:17.689
Yell. I want to say Rebel Yell. double yell.

01:21:17.689 --> 01:21:19.569
I know, they took out the yell. They took out

01:21:19.569 --> 01:21:22.670
the yell because it was racist. I don't know.

01:21:22.750 --> 01:21:26.470
The rebel's not. I think it was part of it. It's

01:21:26.470 --> 01:21:28.069
freaking crazy. Dudes, like us, I'm Sean. I'm

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