Boo, boo, boo. Someone's not ready. I'm ready.
I've got my headphone on. I've got my eyeliners
on, my eyeshadow, my lipstick. I mean gloss.
Lip gloss. Did you say lipstick? No, lip gloss.
I'm hearing a repeat. Yeah, something loud. Oh,
boy. He just turned that speaker off. I was trying
to turn the speaker off, but it won't. It's on
the far left. Yeah, where the red button is.
I had a voice in my brain right there. I don't
know what was happening. Was it telling you to
do salty things? No. Paul, touch yourself again.
Wow. Again. Do it. Do it now. Okay. Second half.
Where did you say you got this? Was this from
the bourbon trail? We'll talk about it. Package.
Stay in your lane, Sean. Stay in your lane. I'm
not going to give it away. Backseat, bitch. Oh,
that was an abrupt end to the music. It's very
tasty, though. What is happening right now? Good
Lord. Did it go up the nose? Yep. I was trying
to do one of those fancy swishes. That didn't
end well. Too cool. It did not end well. Anyways,
this is the second half of the Dudes Like Us
podcast. It is. It's September 9th. Still. I
think he's still trying to recover from that.
For our listeners out there, check us out on
Facebook and Instagram. Check us out on the RSS
feeds too. We're on just about everything, right?
We are. Dudes Like Us, we are just a bunch of...
faggy guys that we all hang out with each other,
have a good time. We grew up in different areas
of the world. I say faggy. I'm just kind of,
you know. How are you using that? Like a bundle
of cigarettes? Yeah, we're like three guys using
a bundle of cigarettes. I'm just saying that
we're just a bunch of normal guys. When I say
faggy, I'm not talking like homosexual. No. Like
a cigarette. Like a cigarette? Yeah, you light
us, we smoke for a little bit, and you snuff
us out. It's like, let's say, if you got a motorcycle,
And it's hauling ass down, and it gets right
up next to you, and it's like... You sit there
like, fag. But you're not saying that because
you think he's a flaming. That's a South Park
definition. But I'm just saying, you're not saying
that because he's a flaming homosexual. You're
saying it because he's a fag. We're not like
that. I'm not like that either. Yeah, I don't
have a bike. But you do have a bike. Are we starting
over? What's happening right now? It's like us.
I'm Sean. I'm Paul. And I'm Jeff. Wow, what a
bumpy start. Well, you know, I'm just saying.
No, it's all good. I try to. Lean into kind of
like, you know, we kind of start kind of hot
sometimes. We never really tell people what we're
all about. True. We're a podcast. We're just
different guys. We shoot from the hip. We got
Chuck as our producer. And, you know, we've been
doing this for, you know, five years. We got,
well, when is our 300th episode coming out? I
think I was in my 40s when we started this. We're
at, I just posted 297. Is that true? We're on
season six, about 56. How old are you in 2020?
No shit. Damn. So I was... No, I was... I was
50. I was 50. But you know what? It doesn't matter.
You were not 50. I was born in 70. So you're
turning 50. When was your birthday? So you were
49 probably when we started this. That's possible.
I was in my roaring 40s. Oh, you know what? I
was in my 40s. You know why? That's terrifying.
Because I was salty because I had my 50th birthday
during COVID. Oh, that's right. And I couldn't
celebrate it. That's right. And I was kind of
like... You guys suck because you didn't secretly
throw me a secret party. We could have. We could
have all been in plastic. We could have. The
bubble man. Inner tube so we didn't get within
six feet. That's so retarded. I swear to God,
there's a special place in hell for Fauci for
doing that to the planet. I think he probably
was advised. I don't think he came out. He was
the one in charge, right? He could have said
yes or no. And he was kind of like, you're whack.
So have you been to places where they still have
the please maintain the six foot? It's like it's
on the ground. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's on the
ground. I've been to a couple places where I
see that and I'm like, oh my God. Just scrape
it up, dude. Dude, I still see dumbass guys in
their cars with masks on. Alone. And they're
alone. I'm like, what is going on? Now look,
there are some guys out there that they have
allergies. Yes. Some, I guess. I don't know.
Well, they can wear them. I don't give a shit.
I don't care either. Here's my thing. Live and
let live, man. Whatever people want to do. If
they're terrified, if they live life in complete
fear and they think that the little mask is going
to save them, let them feel that way. It's okay.
The problem is they've tried to force everyone
to live that way. Yes, that's right. That is
the problem. That's the problem. But we don't
have to anymore. No. Because we said suck it.
We're not doing it. And we survived as a human
race. So far. The downfall of this is if something
actually really does happen, you're going to
have a lot of people pushing back going, yeah,
fuck you. Yep. And then it could turn into something
bad. Right. Well, that's where, you know. Because
you don't have any trust in the government to
tell you the truth. We have zero trust. We have
zero trust, not just our government, but across
the board with the World Health Organization.
You know, those guys are saying, well, I guess
the next one we'll do is going to be with water.
You know? Right. Well, we'll control the water.
That was Davos, wasn't it? That wasn't the Who,
I think. That was the Davos Rich Elites. Yes,
that's right. That's exactly right. It was the...
And where is that? Where does that happen? Switzerland
or something like that. Yeah, that's with...
The guy that resigned because he was embezzling
money. Klaus Schwab. Klaus Schwab. What a joke.
You know, the whole thing was a joke. And I bring
up the World Health Organization because they
were following suit with it. They were in bed
with China, where it came from, and just the
fact that they flagged ivermectin and hydrochloroquine.
When $100 billion flows into these organizations,
it's just a money grab and bullshit corruption.
An abusive power. That's all it is. He's living
as a rich, wealthy individual somewhere. Yep.
You know? Of course. Some beautiful landscape.
Is he married still? He's like 80 -something.
He's very, very old. He's got all the youngest
boys at his feet. Probably. That or a bunch of
playboy bunnies. Like Hugh Hefner. Anyway. All
right, well, let's move on to a more uplifting
topic. Hildy. Patrick McMullen and Hedy. Oh,
via Hedy. Klaus. Klaus. Hildy Schwab. Klaus Schwab.
Klaus Schwab. What a piece of work, man. Yeah,
he is a piece of shit. I wonder if he's an SS
agent. Man, it's just, the whole thing is just
ridiculous. He was born in 46. He was pretty
young. He would have been a. A very early SS
member. From the Hogan's Heroes. Colonel Klink.
At the age of one. Zero. You know, I talked about
Hogan's Heroes at work, and nobody knew what
I was talking about. I barely knew what you were
talking about. I was like, what are you talking
about? Hogan's Heroes? How did we not all watch
that when we were kids? I didn't. I knew about
it. I knew of it, I just didn't watch it. I tell
you what, if you watch it now, it's on Hulu.
If you watch it now, you'll enjoy it. It's funny.
There's a bunch of Jewish cast members. Uh -oh.
Well, that's what they're known for. Bob Crane.
There's Jewish cast members, including Werner,
Klemperer, John Banner. Yeah, I mean, it was
a great story. They were prisoners of war, and
they had the most idiotic sergeant who was watching
them. He was like, I know nothing, nothing. You
know, it was great. And they were prisoners of
war, and they had a whole setup, like a massive...
sophisticated you know living they were living
okay and they could escape whenever they wanted
to right and they would come and go as they as
they pleased and they were uh providing they
were basically helping the war effort but they
were staying where they were and they they had
full electronic equipment they were listening
in on german whatever i mean they preferred to
stay there because it became an operating and
for some reason it was always winter Yeah, I
don't remember that part. But it was hilarious.
A deliberate creative choice to maintain the
story, continuingly allowing episodes to be shown
in any order, in any syndication, without mismatch
in seasons. Oh, perfect. Okay, that makes sense.
In terms of, yeah, yeah. So it didn't have an
underlying story, running story underneath it?
Or is this they all stand alone? Like Seinfeld.
Oh, they were all standalone. They were all standalone
stories where it was just funny shit going on.
You know, it's interesting. I lived in Germany.
Monheim? Monheim, Germany, in Frankfurt. But
there was... It was... Where is Monheim? It's
in Germany. It's in central... I was thinking
France. Central Germany. Well, no. I mean, what
is it close to? I get Bonn, Germany is the capital
of Germany. It's like down to the right a little
bit. Monheim. Let's see here. Monheim. We are
looking at a map of Germany. I'm not super familiar
with that. There's Frankfurt. It's south of Frankfurt.
Yeah. Stuttgart is southeast. Strassenburg. But
I guess what I'm getting at is when we lived
there. We had German friends that came over to
the house, and there were shows on television,
like let's say Wonder Woman, for example. Have
you ever seen the Diana, what is it? Linda Carter?
Linda Carter. You were so close. Well, I think
Diana was her. Diana was Wonder Woman's name.
Yeah, it was her name. Oh, nice. But Linda Carter
played Wonder Woman. And 9 % of the shows were
based on some sort of Nazi effort, and Wonder
Woman always foiled the Nazis. But they played
it on TV there, and it was kind of awkward, because
your German friends would come over, and they
are, you know, just... It went straight into
Def Leppard, didn't you? Yes, that sounded just
like the beginning of Rock of Ages. But, I mean,
like right here, it says right here, like the
global reception, the German popular, the Hogan's
Hero Show. The show was dubbed into German and
broadcast in Germany under the title An Kaufen
von whatever, A Cage Full of Heroes, becoming
quite popular. So it was popular back then, even
for the Germans, even though it was against the
Nazi effort. This was 30 years later, though,
wasn't it? Yeah, and it was a spoof. I mean,
it was 100 % a spoof. I mean, Clink, the characters
were great. They never were, you know, they were
never like, I don't know. It wasn't violent at
all. There was no violence in this show. To me,
it's kind of, but Wonder Woman is a little bit
violent. I know exactly what you're saying. It's
a little just kind of ill will, a little bit.
Just kind of like, eh, in a little stab, you
know? Yeah. I just thought it was slightly inappropriate.
Just to be playing that over there. And maybe
they knew that and didn't care. It's funny, though,
that you said that they dubbed it in German.
So when I lived in Buenos Aires, we had... Do
you remember... I'm sorry. What'd you say? When
I lived in Buenos Aires. Good to say it like
that. Buenos Aires. There you go. Will you hang
on with your French? Sorry. I forget I'm in...
I'm in Texas. Oh, so Buenos Aires. Oh, I lived
there. And, you know, they had combat. Do you
remember the show Combat? No. Not the Atari 2600
game? No. It had the dude that died in the helicopter
crash in the Twilight movie. Vic Morrow? Bingo.
See, this guy's on it. So he was the head dude
of Combat. He was decapitated, by the way. He
was. And there was a major issue because the
two kids were killed too. Yeah, that was an awful
story. Anyway, I lived there, and they had the
show Combat. And, of course, it was Combate.
You know what I mean? Combate with Sergeant Chip
Saunders. Exactly. And Lieutenant Hill Hanley.
And so we would watch that show and it was in,
it was, yeah, dubbed in Spanish. Do they speak
Spanish in Argentina? They do. Yes. So your friend
Santos, he was there hanging out with you. What
do they speak in Brazil? Portuguese? Portuguese.
Yeah. That and Spanish, but yeah, mainly Portuguese,
I think. Okay. In German. Yeah, because all the
Nazis hang out there. Oh, yeah, that's right.
There's a very large community of German people
in Brazil. What is it, Brazil? There's a lot
in Cincinnati, too, believe it or not. Yeah.
Brazilians? In where? Hold on. Brazilians where?
Germans. Oh, Germans where? Cincinnati. Oh, in
Cincinnati. Yeah. I mean, there's Czechoslovakians
that live all through the hill country. Remember,
we got all these. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Check stop.
Yes, we have all these. People that live in all
sorts of places. But I lived there for two years
in first and second grade. Did you go to Paraguay?
Buenos Aires, Argentina. Did you ever drive to
Paraguay? Paraguay, Uruguay. Yeah. I went to
Chile. Why are you talking like that? Because
I live there and that's what they say. Come on.
No, they don't. I went to Bariloche. Did you
go to Rio Negro province? I went to Bariloche.
Or Chuba? Look up Bariloche. They had amazing,
amazing chocolate there. This is painful. Can
you spell that? Bariloche? I don't know what
that means. Just put B -A -D -A -L -A -O -C -E.
I mean, I don't know. Come on, work with me here.
Bariloche. Loche. There you go. There you go.
There we go. There it is in the Rio Negro province.
That's Bariloche. Bariloche. Yeah. Come on. Okay,
sorry. Bariloche. Bariloche. Yeah. Look at that.
It was so beautiful. Is that the Rio Negro province?
It was so pretty there. And what's funny, when
you land in an airplane there, everybody, no
matter how rough the landing is, everybody claps.
Yay, we're alive. We're alive. Do they have a
lot of wrecks down there or something? I don't
know. But all the people there clap when you
land safely, no matter how rough it is. Oh, I'd
probably clap too if I landed on a third world
country. I've been on some rough flights that
get claps when you land. I've been on some of
those. Yeah. I've been on some airplanes where
I got the clap. Whoa. You got bed bugs as well?
Andrew the Giant. Nice. Oh, my Lord. Anyway,
so where were you going with this? Just sharing
my experiences in Argentina, in Buenos Aires,
in Bariloche. No, that's illegal. You shouldn't
be doing that. Obviously, some of us have traveled
here and there. It's kind of all over, which
is kind of fun. Where's Machu Picchu? Machu Picchu
is in Peru. Peru. Peru. I think, again, you're
saying that wrong. It's Peru. Come on, people.
You got to be a little bit cultured. You got
to say it with how they say it. Did you go to
Trujillo? My brother was born in Lima. Isn't
that crazy? Does he have a dual citizenship?
If he wanted to, he could get it. But he was
born in Lima, Peru. So my parents were... in
the Peace Corps together. Getting busy, I guess.
Oh. Yeah. You think they were... They were in
the Peace Corps, and they went down to Peru and
Bolivia. Sorry. Maybe I'll stop saying that.
Peru and Bolivia. Thank you. And they taught
English to the people there. To the natives?
To the natives. Is this when they had cue cards?
In the Peace Corps. I don't know. I don't know.
I don't know what they did. Anyway, so yeah,
I've been all over the place. There's La Paz.
Oh, no, wait. I'm wrong. I think my brother was
born in La Paz. I'm sorry. My brother was born
in La Paz, Bolivia. Oh, he wasn't born in the
coastal region? He wasn't even born in Peru.
He was born in La Paz, Bolivia. I'm so sorry.
I can't even remember my own. Because you were
like trying to accent everyone out. No. Bolivia.
Bolivia. Because I do it very well. Yes. Is that
what it is? Yeah. Machu Picchu. Machu Picchu
is amazing. You know, I've never been down to
that region. I was a little kid. It's on my bucket
list. My wife will never go, so I guess I can
go travel by myself. You can probably find some
other dudes like us to go with you. You know,
there is a... There is a buddy, a guy that works
for our company, Thomas Tiernan. He lives somewhere
in Chile or Peru. Are you sure it's not Chilean?
No, he's American, and he married a Chilean doctor
down there. Chilean. Don't show Sean that city
up north. Go up north a little bit. Keep going.
Oh, boy. That one right there. Antofagasta? Oh,
they got the Antofagasta? Do you know that was
one of the things I got wrong on my final exam?
Is that by Lake Titicaca? No. So get this. I
took a class called The Tropical World, and it
was a PhD level. It was a doctorate level course.
But because of my hearing aids, I could pick
any class I wanted, right? And I picked it as
one of my electives, and I called it Tropical
World because I grew up for five years in the
Tropical World. Anyway, the final was a map of
the world, a blank map of the world that had
dots on it. And it said, what are these dots?
That's it. They're pen marks? They were just,
right? And I was so pissed off because I had
no idea what that dot was in Chile. And I went
back to my room and I started doing my globe.
The only way I could study for the test was just
sit there with my globe. You didn't Google map
it? And it was Antifagasta. That was what I got
wrong. And you know the significance of that?
It's so stupid. It's on the Tropic of... Cancer?
Capricorn? One of those. Tropic of Cancer or
Tropicorn or Tropicorn. There's a line that goes
through Antofagasta, and that was the significance
of that. That's Capricorn Ruta. It looks like
it's a major port there, too. Yeah, probably.
Is that it? Is it the Tropic of Capricorn? Yes,
Capricorn. Yeah, there we go. Somewhere around
there, yeah. That was the significance of that
dot on the stupid map. I got an A in the course,
though, so it didn't matter. So you're a PhD
in Peru? No, but you know what I did? I blew
the curve for all of the graduate students. It
was a graduate -level class. You mean you lowered
it? I blew it. No, I mean, usually if everybody
sucks, right, they lower the score. But because
I got an A and kicked ass on the class, he didn't
do a curve. Did it piss people off? I'm sure
they did. They didn't know it was me. Oh, you
probably told them. It's to do with the hearing
aids. Dude, it was crazy. It was a graduate -level
course, and I killed it because I loved that
shit. I grew up there. Anyway, it's total left.
There's Titicaca. There's Titicaca. I would love
to go down there. I was on a hydrofoil on some
lake somewhere. Texaba? No. It might have been
Titicaca. And you know what? You know what I'm
talking about? It starts going along and when
it comes up out of the water. Yes. When it starts
going super fast, it raises up on these arms
and it's creepy and it goes fast. Pretty cool.
Oh, yeah. Linda Carter. Diane. I think she's
the best Wonder Woman. Well, well, Diana Carter.
Oh, yeah. Or Linda Carter. Yeah. Well, I mean,
she was Miss America. Now, granted, the newer
one, Diana, well, God bless. Who's the newer
one? Gal Gadot. She's hot, too, man. No. Hot
is not a strong enough word. She's very attractive.
She is stunning. But I think Linda Carter in
her day would blow away Gal Gadot. I disagree.
No. I think they both have wonderful attributes
that are germane to the era in which they grew
up. I say someone put together an AI -generated
mud wrestling competition between the two of
them, and my money's on Galdo. In uniform? No,
no, no. Butt naked. Ooh. Sorry. Would that be
OnlyFans type of stuff? I don't know. I mean,
did you say Jell -O? No. Pull up Linda Carter
in her youth. I want them to wrestle in chocolate
pudding. No, I'd rather have like Jell -O. No,
I said mud wrestling. I don't even want that
because it becomes too, you know. Just messy,
dirty. Yeah. Look at that. There's a lot of cleanup.
Oh, yeah. Look at her. Linda Carr is very jugacious.
Oh, wow. She is pretty. Wow. You know what? I'm
going to retract. I think it's a tight battle
there. She actually posed nude, I think, for
Playboy. They got her to actually do it. I think
she did, yeah. What's Playboy? Does it still
exist? Yes. In fact, they opened a Playboy club
in Miami now. They're trying to rebrand. They
stopped doing... The stupid shit? Yeah. Well,
they stopped doing the nude stuff in their magazine.
So what are they doing? They're just doing...
I don't know. It's like you always said. I read
it for the articles. Is it sexy outfits, but
it's not nudity? I don't know. Oh, I have no
idea. I don't know either. I got to tell you,
I was listening to one of the latest podcasts.
There's Linda Carter's jugs. I don't know if
they're real or not. I don't know if they're
real. They're not real at all. And her bush.
Wow. God. God, Jeff. Anyway. I can't trust anything.
On one of the most recent podcasts, we're talking
about, Jeff, listen. We're talking. He can't
focus. See, you know why he can't focus is because
Chuck is putting jugs around. Yeah. Can you,
can you get that shit off the screen, please?
So we can have a podcast here. We just lost Jeff.
We lost Jeff. Okay. Can I, can I say what I laughed
out loud about what you said on the last podcast?
What's that? We're talking about SpaceX going
to ISS. Yeah. And one of the astronauts is called
Zima or Zena. Zena. And you went. oh the princess
warrior and no one laughed during the podcast
nobody stopped nobody said yeah oh the princess
warrior and i laughed i laughed out loud i thought
it was funny all right anyway we're getting super
sidetracked what are we talking about we're talking
about celebrity deaths well yeah we never even
got to it so yeah there's a couple of uh a couple
of uh i guess this last week When they pass away?
That Supertramp is really the only one I noticed.
Which is Rick Davies. Rick Davies. I love Supertramp,
by the way. They have like four or five amazing
songs. There's probably more. Is this the illogical
song? Or the logical song? No, this is not. This
is Goodbye Stranger, yeah? They had some good
songs. Careful. Don't go too long. Don't go too
long. We're screwed. Oh, yeah. Trying to drown
it out. Yeah. I hear you. Because they're crazy.
I mean, it's like you play the song for just
a little bit, and they're like, hey, we heard
it. We heard it. By the way, you played a soundbite
of Led Zeppelin that was pretty long. When we
talked about Mordor and Ramblin', you put in...
By the way, you had a couple choice... But what
do you call them? Soundbites? Was this on the
latest one you just posted? Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah.
I think it was. Not the one I posted today, but
that was the last one. Yeah, it was the last
one. It was even longer. I was like, that's way
too long. Yeah, you played the whole Mordor thing
and something so fair and whatever. We'll see
if that gets flagged. I was like, oh, shit. He's
going a little long on this one. Yeah, I recognize
that, but I was like. You had a lot of soundbites
on this last one. Some of them have a lot. Some
don't, but. Anyway, he passed. Yes, yes. Tribute.
Tribute to Rick Davies. The other one's a little
smaller. He's Tom Shipley of Brewer and Shipley
who had the hit song One Toke Over the Line,
Sweet Jesus. I don't know if I've heard that.
One toke over the line. How's it go? Yeah, you
got it? Do we have that? I don't know if I recognize
the name at all. Let's see if I can get it. Yeah,
I don't recognize. It's one of those. There's
a shit ton of songs from the 70s. You're like.
Oh, I know that, but if you saw the name of it,
you're like, what the hell is that? A total one
-hit wonder type of deal. Yeah, they're a one
-hit wonder. Yeah, we would totally recognize
that song. I'm kind of wondering who else had
passed away. We have on here... Just Tom Shipley
and Rick Davies, that's it. Yeah, not a very...
I mean, I don't want a bunch of people dying.
We always want to come up... I would love to
come up with a death pool. There was another
one. There was an actress who passed away that
I recognized her. She died of cancer. I wonder
what else they sing. You know how many buried
songs there are out there that are great that
never see the light of day? Deep tracks from
all these different thousands and thousands of
songs. Remember the movie Beauty and the Beast?
I do. Linda Hamilton? Lourdes Ambrose. She's
a singing voice in Belle. And she just died recently.
Oh, for the Disney movie? Yeah. White voice actress?
Yes. Here's some trivia. Holly North and Fun
Hall got married. Do you remember that? Secretly
married 40 years after Scandal. Was she the...
She's cute. Secretary or something? Yeah, the
secretary who shredded everything and burned
everything. And they hauled them up in front
of Congress. And they stayed in touch. Holly
North. There's a gore song. Named Ollidore. I
love Ollidore. Ollidore! A what song? Gwar. Gwar.
You ever heard of Gwar? Gwar? Oh, it's a ridiculous
band. It's, was it Thrash Metal? GWAR. GWAR.
No, it's GW. Oh yeah, sorry, GWAR. No, I've never
heard of them. That's a ridiculous... Yeah, there
they are. They're on Jerry Springer. They used
to go on Seinfeld all the time. Oh, it's called
Shock Rock. It's ridiculous. They wear these
huge penises and... Okay, that's... Yes, that's
Kiss over the top. 100%. They're funny. They're
funny guys. Yeah. They really are. They've been
on Seinfeld a bunch. Really? Yes. Their shtick
is un... in the shock rock. Oh, this is awful.
Yeah. Anyway, we played them when I was a DJ.
See, they got dicks. There we go. Oh, so they're
British. I don't think so. They sound British
to me. See, they were on Red Eye. Yeah, that's
over the top. Yeah, they are. Anyway, we played
them on the radio because we're like, what the
fuck is this? Oh, back in college. This is back
in the late 80s, yeah. So they've been around
a long time. Yeah, you shared some of that story
on the last podcast of when you and your two
buddies were playing. You were doing round robin
for what kind of music? Yeah. What is that? No,
no, no. No, no, let's move on. That was a butt
plug. Yeah, that might have been. What the? You
never know when you show up. You missed it. You
never know when you search X. Yeah, you got to
pay attention here. You put gore in there. I'm
looking at deaths here. So in the, let's see,
80s. Okay, it would have probably been late 80s
when we were in high school or college, right?
And we had summer jobs. I did. I had some. What
were our summer job experiences? I don't think
I had ever a summer job. Oh, you were affluent,
so you didn't have to work? I don't think, I
mean, I guess mowing yards. Really? As a teenager,
you never worked? No, I couldn't. I didn't have,
there wasn't an opportunity for me to do that.
You never worked, Visa? No. Well, I mean, look,
my sister was old enough. By the time I graduated
high school, yeah, I started working. Where did
you graduate from? Austin High School in El Paso,
Texas. In El Paso. And you spent all of your
high school years in El Paso? Or were you in
Germany? No, it was New Jersey. New Jersey. And
El Paso. I was stretched in between the two.
In the streams. In the canals behind. Oh, in
God's country. Yes, God's country. Yeah, and
hang out in New Jersey. New Jersey was wonderful.
So you never worked in high school, all four
years? So, strange enough, when I was younger,
I worked at the movie theater, you know, the
snack bar area, you know, a military base, Fort
Myles, New Jersey, I worked at the snack bar.
But when we moved over to El Paso, no, I didn't
work. You know, it was straight to school, and
we lived on base, so there wasn't really... Until
it was Sean Cruz. Yeah, as soon as I graduated
high school, it was sink or swim. So, yeah, I
got a job as soon as I graduated. I mean, I was
working the next week. Oh, shit. But you had
a high school job. I had, yeah. I worked at McDonald's.
Prior to that, when I was in middle school, I
was a caddy, golf caddy. Really? At Crest Hills
Country Club. In middle school? Middle school.
How would you be able to work in middle school?
I don't know. Don't you have to be? 15, 16? No,
I was in middle school. No shit. Yeah, I was
in middle school. I'd go up there super early,
just the weekends, right? You would tell them
how to line up their putts and stuff? No, I was
12, 13. Mr. Rainer, you need to use a three -wood.
Right. But we'd go up there, and I'd spend from
whenever the first tee was, 7 a .m. to after
lunch, and then I'd ride my bike up there. It
was about a five -mile hike or bike ride. Really?
Then I'd ride my bike five miles back. And you
got paid hourly? No, it was by, if I did nine
holes, I think I got three bucks. Whoa. I'm serious.
So this is child labor. This is abusive, oppressive
child labor. And it was walking. So you're carrying
the bags and you're walking the holes. What?
And you get like maybe 10 bucks if you did 18
holes. You get tipped on occasion? Sometimes,
but you've had the same people over and over
and you knew which ones tipped and which ones
didn't. Every time you got one that didn't tip,
you're like, fuck. What? Yeah. I've never heard
of this. Middle schoolers carrying bags and being
caddies. Yep. I had a white little hard hat thing
you had to wear in case someone cried foul. Smacked
in the head. Yeah. Then after that? Then after
that, once I turned 16, I worked at McDonald's.
Beautiful. I worked at McDonald's for, I guess,
the rest of the time until I was 18 until I left
for college. No shit. How many years was that?
Just two. Right? So I closed on the weekend.
So I'd work Friday night, Saturday night, and
I'd come in like work 11 to 7 on Sunday. Damn.
And so I closed. Back in the days where we made
like $3 .85 an hour. It was $3 .10 an hour. Yep.
I was going to say that basically nothing. Yeah.
I remember I got a dime raise. I was like, thank
you. Yeah, you were like, what? Yeah, but that
dime went a long way. I mean, back then, I remember
they had restaurants. They had burger shacks
selling you burgers for 25 cents. Those White
Castles. White Castles? There was one called
Burgers. Yeah, the burger stand. Dude, you go
there, and I remember I went there with a 20
bucks, and I was kind of like, I want all the
burgers for this 20 bucks. I remember seeing
commercials in Denver. It was the hamburger stand.
That's it. It was called the hamburger stand.
And it was this white building. And they said,
hey, this guy walks in and he goes, hey, I like
your ferns. And they had a thing, you know, like
a pot of ferns. And it said, no ferns. And the
ferns disappeared. And it said, oh, I like your
blah, blah, blah. And it said, no, blah, blah,
blah. Just hamburgers for 25 cents or whatever
it was. That was ridiculous, man, because I went
in there and I ordered a ridiculous amount of
hamburgers. And I remember I was such an ass.
Imagine that. I remember going in there. We ordered
a bunch of burgers, and there was like two or
three of us. And we had a few beers or something.
I think we went to the local Triple S down the
street from Fort Monmouth and had some GIs from
the military base buy us some quarts of beer,
you know, some Pearl or something ridiculous.
Colt 45. Oh, dude, those quarts of beer would
fit perfectly in my Levi's jacket. And you were
how old? 15 -ish. Oh, my God. So we'd walk down
there. You're a little criminal over here. Dude,
I mean, we were standing out there, and they're
just barely older than us, barely. And they were
like, hey, can you buy us something? They were
like, sure. They come out, here you go. And we
go down the street and hit the burger place,
order like a shit ton of hamburgers. And I remember.
You could eat them all back then, too. Oh, dude,
we could just pound them. Oh, yeah. And I remember
there was a guy, sits down. He was so happy,
got his burger, fries, everything, real meticulous
the way he set everything up. And I remember
I stood up, and I was with my friends, and I
went, big old fart. And he was just, I remember
looking back at him, and he was like, it's disgusting.
He threw his hamburger on the table and just
walked out. Damn. I mean. Crop dusted him. So
you were making a difference at an early age.
I did. And I felt bad about it for years. I was
kind of like, oh, there's all those moments in
life. I ruined that guy's lunch. You should track
him down and buy him a burger. Yeah, but it's
a double meat there, bro. No, but it's just one
of those things that kind of, they. create you.
They carve your personality. They're kind of
like, you don't know, I mean, you do know, but
you don't know the effect it's going to have
on other people until you see it hit you in the
face. And so the moment like that, well, hell,
man. That molded me. But you learned nothing
from it. You shit on us all the time. I was going
to say, you learned nothing from that moment.
As a matter of fact, it emboldened you. Well,
I'm very selective on who I do. I know how it
affects, so I want to make sure. Okay. Just not
random strangers, only your friends. He only
shits on the ones closest to him. I don't want
to hear from, especially Jeff, period. All right?
Jeff, really? I'd even give it. attention to
what you did earlier. You can put your shit on
the floor outside while I was pouring drinks.
He knows me. Really? The vibration? How about
the shit stain on the back of your shorts? Yeah,
there was some flack. All right, so no job for
you in high school, which, you know, that says
a lot. You, you had two years. Now hold on, pump
the brakes. I didn't have a job where I checked
in every single day, but I worked. I cut lawns
in my front, in our community. Okay. I would
go around. That's a job. In the summer, I would
clean up my. Like five bucks a yard. Yeah, something
like that, man. I'd whip out one or two yards.
I'd get like 10, 15, 20 bucks a day. You do two,
three yards. I mean, that was a big deal. Okay,
yeah, that's legit. A weed eater. I know when
I graduated high school, I quit McDonald's because
I was like, this is not going to work. Because
my buddy, his brother was the caretaker for the
county. Fairgrounds. Okay. He lived on the fairgrounds,
and he's like, yeah, he needs help. He'll pay
you, you know, like double what I'm getting paid
at McDonald's. Oh, yeah. I remember these stories.
And so I went and talked to the guy. You just
have to sleep with the clown. No, you're basically
getting the grounds ready for the fair, right?
Yes. So it was the Hamilton County. State fair
stuff. It was the county fair. Oh, county fair.
Yeah. So it was a lot of painting the barns.
Yeah, upkeep. Yeah, painting the barns, cleaning
them out. I had to lay blacktop, you know, the
really liquid stuff where you just squeegee it
out. I learned, unfortunately, you don't wear
shorts when you do that. That was good for your
lungs, too. Oh, where there were like four of
us out there doing it, and you don't wear shorts
when you have hairy legs. Did you wear shorts?
I wore shorts. Oh. I wore jeans the next day.
Life lessons. But that stuff, those little beads,
little droplets get in your hair, and they just
don't wash out. You cannot wash those out. No.
You cut them off, basically. You shave your legs.
Yes. Otherwise, you have these black balls all
over your legs. Was that a thing back in Ohio?
He was into black balls. I grew up with black
balls on my legs. Yeah, so we did that. They're
like, I got to warn you, this job is all about
black balls. I'm in, Mr. Journey. And then we
had to get the demolition derby rink or whatever
the hell you want to call it, right? The arena
ready. So we were moving telephone poles, and
one of the guys had a chainsaw. He had to cut
some. So you're cutting these. That sounds safe.
It's not. They're like, yeah, you're not supposed
to be doing this because it's got creosote and
all this shit's flying everywhere. It's all airborne.
You're inhaling it. Oh, it was. They're like,
why don't you stand over there downwind? But
we're all standing around. He's cutting us. Famous
last words, you say. Yeah. It was bad. And we
did all that. There's nobody supervising this
shit at all. You're winging it. None. Totally
winging it. None. I was throwing bales of hay.
But you were getting shit done. Oh, yeah. We
were getting the whole thing ready. Were you
sleeping there? During the fair for, I think
it was a week long. It wasn't a real long one.
It was a week long. It may have been two weeks.
We set up a tent. And we worked from 6 a .m.
until like midnight. And you probably banked.
We got up. Yeah, we got paid for it. Well, back
then, yeah. Pretty good money. I don't know.
I can't remember. Six, seven, eight bucks an
hour. Oh, yeah. That's good money. You know,
times 18 hours a day. Yeah. So that week, you
got paid well. But, you know, at that time, me
and another guy my age, we were just going around.
We were emptying the trash, walking around, checking
the chicks out, watching the derby. Feeling good
about yourself. Feeling good. I work here. Didn't
shower all week. Well, why would you? You got
black balls all week? All week. You mean you
didn't cut those black balls off you the first
day? No, that was a month prior to that, so yeah.
But, you know, it was not easy work. It was a
lot of manual labor is what it was. And so he
had two of us, two 17, 18 -year -olds, and then
he would hire all the town drunks. Oh, gee. The
homeless guys. And so I was working with them.
Interesting how he bundled you with them. Yeah,
and they were nice guys. Cheap labor. Yeah, they
were cheap, and they'd get up there, and they
were painting. They used to be painters and like
that, but life got the better of them. Someone
would come. The key was you can't come drunk,
but some would come just. reeking of booze so
why i mean obviously you're only 17 18 it's not
like you got involved in their personal lives
that much but i mean why would they were they
mental mental health issues no no they were why
why does somebody end up in that situation i
don't know i mean it's just they were just all
were guys probably i mean i don't know how old
they were 50 maybe in their 50s and they were
just down on their luck man You know, somebody
said something profound to me today. They were
like, you have no idea how close any of us are
to being in that situation. You know what I mean?
It takes a couple bad events in your life. Like
they were talking about one guy whose wife got
cancer, right? And he was a really wealthy guy.
And he sold, he burned through all of his money,
sold the house. had to move in with his son and
the wife ended up dying of the cancer. Right.
And then now the son doesn't want him there because
he, he just got a new girlfriend and the girlfriend
thinks, you know, thinks it's weird to have the
father living with them. So they kicked him out
and he's homeless. He's living in his car. Damn.
Right. So, I mean, it's like, and he did everything
right. Yep. Like he had his own company and he
had tons of money and that shit all happened.
Yeah. So. Any of us can be that close to a weird
situation that happens where we find ourselves
freaking homeless. It's nuts. It is. Anyway,
I worked with these guys. I got to know them.
Nice guys. Yeah. They were hard workers, but
they'd make their money and they'd go to the
liquor store and buy booze. Probably some early
times. Kind of what we do, isn't it? Yeah, it
is what we do. They spend all their money. Somehow
we keep our jobs, I guess. Yeah, it's amazing.
The cost of living back then, too. How much you
could buy for your money. True, yeah. I have
no idea how much they were getting paid. I don't
know what he was paying me. But just in general,
I mean, if you think about what we were getting
paid versus the cost of living, I mean, the cost
of living has superseded. You used to have a
job back then. You get married. Your wife doesn't
have to work. You can send the kids to school.
You know, it's just like, it's crazy. It's different
now. It's like everyone has to freaking work.
I mean, back then, the cost of living... Why
is my chair sinking? What the hell? Oh, we're
doing this again? It's like... It's a recurring
issue. I got a list here. The 1970 cost of living
back then. For a new house, it's like $23 ,500.
Average income is $9 ,400 a year. You know, average
car is $3 ,450. $9 ,400 a year? In 70? Is what
people made? Average income is $9 ,400 a year.
Damn. All right. New cars, $3 ,450. Minimum wage
was $210. Movie tickets were $1 .55. Gasoline,
$0 .36 a gallon. Postage stamp, $0 .06. Sugar,
$0 .39 for five pounds. $0 .62 per gallon of
milk. Coffee is $2 a pound -ish. Yeah. Eggs,
$0 .59 a dozen. Bread, $0 .25. I'm just... Do
you remember you shared your father's first paycheck
at TI? Yeah. GE. GE, GE. Yeah. And it was something
astronomically slow. It was like a low. Buck
70 an hour or something like that. You're insane.
Of course, that was what, the 50s? 60s. It was
60s, yeah. 60s. But yeah, your point's valid,
Sean. I mean, it's just, you know, life. But
it's not keeping up with the normal growth of
our economy. What do they call that? They call
that... Inflation, isn't it? Yeah, but they call
it, there's a phrase for something of life. Like
the, what's the, okay, nobody's helping me here.
The economic growth? Cost of living. Cost of
living. Cost of living. Yeah, the cost of living
has skyrocketed. A lot of people blame capitalism.
They say capitalism is the root of the evil.
No, that's the opposite. Capitalism has lifted
a lot of people out of poverty. Correct. And
it keeps things, prices and costs in check when
there's competition. Right. If people have choices
and the people who are providing those services
know they have choices, they have to lower their
costs. The people that are bitching about this
want free things. Right. They want socialism
and communism. I want some stuff, but I don't
want to do anything for it. Right. So it's funny
because those are normal things that people go
through when you're at a certain age. When you
get kids that are 18 to 25, hell, to 35, when
they were working dead -end jobs because they
elect not to pursue something that's going to
take them beyond that, some people are just content
in life being satisfactory with your job. They
don't have anything that wants to take them to
the next level. Hey, I don't mind working in
a factory or being a... You know, a machinist.
You know, that's my bag. I'm happy. I'm going
to settle with making $30 ,000, $40 ,000, $50
,000, $60 ,000 a year. Okay, great. Yep. As long
as their cost of living matches their standard
of living. If you work and make this much, don't
expect to live like this. Correct. Live within
your means. You can't do that at all now. Well,
you can. Yeah, you can. How? Not in big cities.
You can't in Frisco. No. Where do you go? I mean,
do you go away? Yes, you go out to smaller towns
where the cost of living is lower. You do. Or
other states. That's why I see these people complaining
in California. I can't afford to live here. I
can't buy a house. I can't do this. Move. Move.
There are plenty of homes. That's the stark,
harsh reality. You can't afford it, so move somewhere
else. You can't afford to live here. Go move
to Oklahoma City. Right. Right. You know what?
You don't want to live in Oklahoma City because
it doesn't have all the beaches and the mountains
and the this and the that. Well, not just that,
but it's going to cost me $15 ,000 to uproot
and leave. People don't have that money, so they're
stuck in a whirlwind. They may have a child,
a single mom, dad, whatever. I mean, there's
outside things that affect you. Overall, my point
is, and I agree, move. But at the same time,
You know, the economics of the United States
in general, it just, we need to try to figure
this out. I think a big problem is healthcare.
The cost of healthcare is getting absolutely
fucking ridiculous. Yeah, astronomical. I mean,
the insurance that I have, yeah, it's insurance,
but it's expensive as shit. Yeah. You know? For
what you get. Yeah. And then they nickel -dime
the shit out of you. Yeah. You got to claw and
hammer anything that you want. Yeah. Nowadays,
to avoid the premiums, you got to get the high
deductible plan. Correct. And then the high deductible
plan is like five grand before you - You even
see any benefit. Yeah, before they even start
paying you for anything. Correct. It's like,
dude, it's awful. Yeah. Healthcare is a problem.
It needs to be fixed. It does. I saw Trump -
Here's your taco, mister. What's wrong with my
voice? I don't know. What am I, 14? Hi, guys.
How's it going? What the hell? I sound like a
fucking prepubescent teenager. Well, even in
corporations, they match your health care. It's
just ridiculous. I don't get it. Corporations
still pay a big chunk of your health care. They
pay a huge chunk of your benefits. Yeah, they
pay a big part of it, but it's still fucking
expensive. It's still expensive. And then where
does that money go? Because you're like, I should
have awesome. Consider how much these companies
are getting. You know, there was a meme that
I saw. This guy went to the hospital, had a procedure
done, and he had insurance, but... He didn't
tell them he had insurance. And they were like,
oh, it's going to be like 500 bucks. And then
he reveals that he does have insurance. And they're
like, yeah, after insurance, it's going to be
about 1 ,500 bucks. Right. And it was like, just
do it without my insurance. Well, we kind of
already know you have insurance. Yeah, we can't
do that now. We want that money. Yeah, that's
ridiculous. Oh, it's fraud. It's a total racket.
It's because they know they can do it. Yep. They
boost the prices of everything. And it's not
just health insurance. It's all insurance across
the board. Yep. Property insurance is getting
ridiculous, especially maybe nuts. And auto.
And auto because, you know, you hear a lot of
these companies going from a 1 % deductible to
a 2 % deductible, which for some of these houses
around here, as the value goes up, there's a
lot of fucking money before you see any kind
of benefit. And you're in some of these states
and these locations where they may not even offer
you home insurance because it's too high of a
risk. You know, these insurance companies have
paid out billions and billions of dollars. And
I know why they're doing it. They're trying to
make their money back. Right. Right. All right.
Makes sense. But, you know, there's got to be
a limit where you're like, yeah, I can't pay
that. I mean, where's the competition to say,
all right, this insurance company is going to
pay me 2%. Get my 1%. That still has good coverage.
Right. The competition, they're all doing it.
They're all doing it. It's the problem. It's
like collusion. Yeah. It's like they're all doing
it. Yeah. I agree. And then they have loopholes
where they'll give you great insurance, but there's
these, you don't get coverage in certain areas
where you think you would get coverage. You know,
for your house, it'd be, you know, you don't
have. for underground pipes or something. It
doesn't matter what it is. It's just that you
buy insurance. You think, oh, well, I have insurance
for my house. My house should be covered. And
then all of a sudden you file an insurance claim.
And it's not covered. I didn't realize that wasn't
covered. The black mold or something. Whatever
it is. I mean, it's endless of what it is. And
they're like, oh, yeah. But, oh, coverage is
extended to your fence, but it's only covered
under these five conditions. It's like, really?
Like a riot? Yeah, civil riot is actually one
of them. I mean, it's fire, explosions, civil
riot. Act of God. You know, there's a vehicle
impact. I wonder, I mean, how many times are
people disappointed, surprised, you know, with
the fine print and find out that they're not
covered? I think a lot. But it's not more than
like 50%, do you think? I mean, like more often
than not, are they like screwed out of, you know,
not being covered? It can't be, right? Like a
lot of these folks - If I were to guess, I would
say it's like 20, 30 % maybe. I don't know. Like
flood insurance. I don't have flood insurance.
Does that mean that one of these times this stupid
creek by us all of a sudden - Goes crazy. Goes
crazy and we flood and - And you have the 50
,000 year storm. We're not covered for flood.
No. That's why you have sandbags. That's true.
I got them in the garage. Yeah. There are a lot
of houses out there. Let's say you go to Florida.
You know, it's almost impossible. You can't get
flood insurance. Right, right. Because of the
hurricanes. Yeah, and it's just like, you know,
don't get your house covered for floods just
because there's no sense in it. You might as
well just pay for the repairs. Right. It's almost
a deterrent to even live there. Yeah. Well, maybe
it's by design. You're really rolling the dice
to say, oh, nothing's going to happen to my house.
I mean, insurance is you hope you never need
it kind of a thing. I mean, you're paying out
the ass for it, but you hope you never need it.
But when you build a house on the beach and they're
like, yeah, we're not going to insure this. I
mean, I don't know if I'd feel comfortable with
that. I remember a situation. Build a resilient
place. Yeah. So my parents had a house in Punta
Gorda and there was a land, you know, a hurricane
landed right there. And all of the houses there
have the ginormous cage over their pools. Right.
You know what I'm talking about? Yeah. And then
they all got blown off. And they're like $10
,000, $15 ,000 cages over their pools. And none
of them are covered. Like a greenhouse cage?
Yeah, it looks like it's just ginormous. It's
in Florida, right? Yeah, it's in Florida. Yeah,
they all have that. Yes, and none of them were
covered because they were not a permanent structure.
They're not attached to the house. Right, yeah,
something like that. It was something like that.
And it was like they all got effed. That qualifies
as what they say, outdoor property. And outdoor
property is only covered by XYZ. Wind, hail,
and storm damages typically aren't covered. That's
why if you're living in a place like that, you've
got to build something that's resilient. So that's
why you've got to build cinder block homes with
the base. The bottom floor needs to be on stilts.
for a lot of these houses out there. But then
there's the building regulations or the HOAs.
You can't have stilts. It doesn't look good.
And you can't have cinder block. Yeah, well,
I mean, some do. But, I mean, usually they're
all communities that sit there that will do it.
Because if you look at the high success rate
for these resilient homes and buildings that
are out there, that's it. They've got massive
concrete structures that are people's houses.
Three stories tall, right on the beach. And you're
thinking that thing is going to be blown away.
But no, it's a staple. It stays there. And frankly,
it dams up the water, prevents the buildings
behind it from getting damaged. It's only a matter
of time. When you live on the beach in those
zones, Galveston, Florida, blah, blah, it's only
a matter of time. It could be 10 years from now,
but it's going to happen. Yep. And it could be
a Category 1, could be Category 5, but it's going
to hit you. I'm thinking you just need one of
those big. Yeah. Those big, massive... Because,
I mean, I stayed at... Like the Obama... No,
the Osama bin Laden compound. Like, just massive
walls and... Yeah. Can't, you know... HOA would
love that. So I stayed at the... Not the W. The
Marriott W. The JW. Where at? In Florida. In
San Marco. Just where you were working and you
were, like, drinking by the pool. That's exactly
what that was. Pictures of your feet with a tropical
glass. Oh, yeah. Pina Colada. And we're like,
oh, you're working your ass off. It was so tough,
guys. You're like, this is really hard. There's
so much. That's what he said. There's so much
devastation here. And then he sends that picture.
They shut down the main pool. I had to hang out
in the kids' pool. Right. But the hotel was right
on the beach, and there was tons of devastation
all around it, but the hotel was unaffected because
it's just a huge chunk of concrete. But then
you had that hotel in, was it Miami, that collapsed?
Remember that? Well, that was because of... They
killed a bunch of folks. Half the thing collapsed.
There's a lot of problems there. A lot of it
had to do with the exposed metal that was decomposing
from the salt. That happens. You've got to upkeep
that. That's maintenance and stuff. The other
part of that was the interior water sewer lines
in the building were failing and degradating
the concrete, which caused it to collapse. Those
two components. Just when it filled up with water,
it was called the Surfside Collapse. Didn't they
say that there's multiple hotels in that area
with the same problem? All the same problem.
Up and down the entire coast now, they're being
scrutinized so it doesn't happen again. And I
get that. Right. It's a safety thing, right?
I mean, nobody saw that one coming. No, that
happened. Like that. It is, yeah. They're showing
that right there. Can you imagine the dude looking
out your window? What the fuck? And then you
have two or three seconds to react. And shockingly,
not that many people. You would think when you
watch an entire condo complex collapse like that,
you would think that a shit ton of people would
die. But how many ended up perishing? Do you
remember? I don't remember. No, I do remember
there was a lot. There were some because people
were in their rooms. Yeah, I just remember it
wasn't as much as you would think. Yeah, I hear
what you're saying. Completely wrong. But there
was a bunch that were. Yeah, no, it was awful.
People were living in their condos and suddenly
it collapses on them. So, yeah, I don't know.
Yeah, it's a mess. You got to take care. And
look, these are things that even I struggle to.
You have to maintain the integrity of your place,
your home. 98 people died. Oh, shit. That's more
than I would... That's more than acceptable.
Actually, it's from 1 to 92. Oh, from 1 to 92
years old. 98 deaths. 98 deaths ranging from
1 to 92 years old. And that's unacceptable. Well,
people weren't sleeping, probably. Well, yeah.
I mean, it's unacceptable that that could happen.
Yeah. I mean, somebody, some engineer, some civil
engineer... Structural. Yeah, that's structural
engineering. Structural engineers should have
figured that out. It could be a civil engineer.
Maybe they didn't define the storm drain systems
correctly to manage the water coming through.
That was June 24th, 2021. Well, think about it.
Those cars, the people that own vehicles on a
coast, that salt destroys metal. Oh, yeah. It's
very corrosive. Yeah, even up in Cincinnati,
the salt that would get laid. during wintertime.
You got laid during the wintertime? Yeah, with
salt. It would kind of burn. Sorry, I didn't
hear that. It's called a salt lick. Maybe I misunderstood.
No, they'd lay the salt down. Unlike down here
where they just put sand on the road. Right.
Up there, they'd actually use salt, but it does
rust your car out. Super corrosive. Yeah. Yes.
I am digging this bourbon. It's a good time to
talk about it. It is. It's not a bourbon, though.
Oh, it's not? It's a straight rye whiskey. It's
so rich. It's very tasty. I'll bring it over
to you. So, did you pick this up in Wyoming?
My wife and I went to Wyoming this past June.
There's a huge ranch up there called Brush Creek.
And it's just thousands and thousands of acres.
And it's a working ranch. And they built themselves
a distillery. They're not distilling their own
stuff, right? I believe this is just MGP that
they bring in and they age some more and stuff
like that. And they are going to, they're doing
small batch distillery, so distilling stuff.
So they'll have a couple special bottles. But
this. We went and we did a tour. Absolutely beautiful.
Country. Country. It's way out there on this
ranch, rolling hills in Wyoming. I mean, look,
there's nothing around it. That looked very beautiful.
The facility was absolutely beautiful. There's
probably some pictures out there. So, it's Railroad
Rye. What's the railroad significance? You were
there. So, what's the railroad significance?
It traveled to them on the Transatlantic Railroad.
Okay. So, they were saying, you know, You know,
just like the Jefferson's Ocean, right? So they
put it on the Transatlantic Railroad and the
swaying kind of helped. Oh, really? Yeah. Oh,
this is a modern thing that they're doing with
the railroad. Correct. Is how they're aging their...
So they, yes. Okay, it's funny you say that because
this one says boxcar number two. This is their
second release. Right, but literally it tells
what boxcar it has been aging in. Just like you
said, Jefferson. Which is aging in ocean liners.
Right. That's fascinating. Yeah. So the facilities
are absolutely stunning. They have like a dude
ranch, like a very luxury dude ranch. That's
extremely expensive. But if you ever make it
up there, highly recommend going. But it was
very small. It was just the four of us that went.
Very personable. We walked around. We saw a lot
of behind -the -scenes shit that they usually
don't. Show us. It's like Brokeback Mountain
kind of scenes? Yeah, kind of, yeah. Nice. I
can't quit you. Yeah, well, they have - I want
to show you the back door. They have a creamery
there. Oh. Okay. Okay. All right, you just had
to top it off with that. A little head tilt.
You see that? Shoulder went up. Would you like
to see my creamery? They make goat cheese. They
make artisanal goat cheese. What does that even
mean? Artisanal? That's what they said. It's
all handmade shit off of goats that you walk
by and you see them. Yeah, someone's got to milk
them. Jump in over there and milk the goats.
Did you milk the goats? We did. We stroked the
nips. The udders. No, so they took us down. Whipped
out a batch of goat cheese. Yeah, they've got
a very high -end restaurant there. They've got
a big old bar there. And they've got a secret
bourbon room. I sent you some pictures of it.
A little speakeasy. Yeah, it's underground, and
he had to get a secret key to get in there. And
you open it up, and they have these really old
scotches, these really hard -to -find bourbons.
Okay. Probably a couple hundred of them surrounding
you. I took some pictures and sent them to you.
Was it crowded at all? Not at all. It was just
the four of us and this guy walking us around.
No way. That's perfect. Yeah. And he goes, yeah,
you can come down here and drink this. He goes,
yeah, some. 21 -year -old, had his birthday,
and he came with his dad, and he wanted a drink
of this obscenely old bourbon. It was like 60
years old. Maybe it was a scotch. For free? No.
I think he said it was $2 ,500 a shot. Okay.
And he was laughing. He goes, yeah, he didn't
know what he was drinking, but his dad bought
it for him. Oh, my God. It was ridiculous. But
anyway, it's... Some place, like I said. Hold
on. $2 ,500. Yeah. His very rich father bought
him that shot. You know. But, you know, it's
the memories, I guess. Is that what it is? I
don't know. Because I wouldn't do it. That's
crazy. The guy was even like, he was like, yeah,
I don't know if I would have drank that because
it looked and smelled really musty. It's old
as shit. You know, it's been in a bottle for
who knows how long. I would have to have like
a number of people try it. You know what I mean?
If you get a two -ounce pour for $2 ,500. Hell,
if someone else is buying it, I'm in. Yeah, yeah.
If you're going to spend $2 ,500 on a two -ounce
pour, you'd be like, you know, come on, guys.
Everybody come around. Let's all taste this.
Right. But no way. That's crazy. I'll try to
find the pictures here when we're done. Well,
this is very interesting, what we're drinking.
Yeah, and they got the, you know, the sticker
up top on the. The cork is a little railroad
track. Railroad RR. This is the Brush Creek Railroad
rye whiskey. One -way boxcar, too. Yes, it is.
What's interesting is it says, for more information
about the Brush Creek distillery, blah, blah,
blah, blah, blah. But then, of course, it says
it's distilled in Indiana. Yeah, it's MGP. I
know. That's interesting. So it's not their own
stuff, but they age it. So that's cool. It's
54%. A lot of companies do that. 108 proof. And
on the nose, I'm picking up sarsaparilla root
beer. You know, that's crazy. 100 % sarsaparilla.
I like the sweet sarsaparilla root beer. It is
a very smooth nose. Scroll up a little bit. Is
that Boxcar 2? That is Boxcar 1. This is the
first one they do. Yeah. That's probably going
to be a little different. It's going to be hard
to find the Boxcar 2. Yeah, you can only buy
it there. The nose, it says hints of, were you
going to say something, Paul? Hints of a candy
fruit, orange zest, sweet spices, and sarsaparilla.
Oh, really? Yeah. I definitely picked that up.
No way. That's crazy. Yeah. The palette, layers
of complexity with... I'll let you guys kind
of fill in the blanks here. I pick up mint. Actually,
it's the same thing. I pick up mint. Whether
it's spearmint or wintergreen or something, I
pick that up on there. And I pick up some small
hints of tobacco as well. I got anise. Liquorice,
a little bit. Some liquorice. I go back to the
candy apple part, too. It's kind of got a candy
apple sort of tartness. I think it's delicious.
It is delicious. It really is. It's really good.
I taste bananas. There's that orange candied
fruit almost. I have not seen, so it's got the
nose and the palate and the finish. I haven't
seen them talk about the transition. in the palate.
Have you guys seen that before? Where it says
sweet and spicy, blah, blah, blah, then transition,
then mouthfeel. How it finishes. I know, but
I have not seen, no, the finish is down below.
I have not seen the word transition. Like a transition
is to dried apricots and hints of cocoa. Right.
It's very interesting. I have not heard them
articulated like that. And the mouthfeel is creamy.
Ooh, and oily. That's what I try to tell my wife,
but it's okay. It's oily. Yeah. Baby, don't worry.
The transition is dried apricot and a hint of
cocoa. Stone fruit. Yeah, and the mouthfeel is
going to be creamy and oily, honey, but you need
to keep going. Yeah. When you're tasting this,
right? When you're tasting this bourbon, you're
going to have to keep going. Yes. But this is
a 108 proof. Correct. All right. So for 108,
this hits perfect. Oh, yeah. Yeah, this is, in
my opinion, a winner. And the MSRP, what, 50
bucks it said? No, it was like 150. Oh, maybe
that was boxcar one we had pulled up. 150 for
this, huh? Damn, that's harsh. Boxcar number
two, it's bottle number 1782. I almost didn't
get it because of that. But I was like, fuck
it, I got it. I was like, if you guys didn't
want to go in, I'll just keep it. No, dude, we're
good. It's good. You know what? Christmas times
will come, and we'll fucking pay you eventually.
These are all, you know what? The story behind
the place, you know what I mean? These are all
experiences, right? Right. So, I mean, who else
in the world has had this and knows what it tastes
like? Not very many. Exactly. Because like I
said, this is a tiny little deal. It's in the
middle of nowhere. Right. Super cool. But it's
a huge. Huge place. So I'm wondering what the
mash bill is. I'm wondering what type of oak,
because it's not a bourbon, so they're not the
fall circles. Well, it's a rye, right? So it
should be high rye. Yeah, well, that and just,
you know, with the taste I'm tasting, because
you have - Two ryes. It says two ryes. You have,
like, the Nevada, the Frey. Frey Ranch, yeah.
In the Frey Ranch. I mean, they have such a unique
wheat and barley out there that they make themselves.
I'm wondering if they make their same shit out
there because that's all they do is grow that
stuff out there in Wyoming. Yeah. I mean, it
is a very unique flavor. I'm going to score this
pretty high for the 108 section. I can promise
you that, I don't want to say novices because
that has like a snobby ring to it, but people
who are not used to drinking this type of stuff
would say this is extremely harsh. It's a strong
flavor. It's very rich. It's a very strong flavor.
It's rich. It's very peppery. It's very rich.
So I can see a lot of people being, oh, God,
this was way too rich. Yeah, I agree. If you're
a puss, you're probably going to say that. Wow.
It says it's four to six years, unique finishing.
It's finished in mature. Barrels are loaded onto
the UG Pacific boxcar in Chicago and transported
along the historic Transcontinental Railroad
to the distillery in Saratoga, Wyoming. Chugga
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-chugga -chugga -chugga -chugga -chugg Oh, yeah.
Do hobos still hop on trains? I'm sure they do
if they can get on it. It's not that easy anymore.
Like a thief to pull out the... A whiskey thief?
A whiskey thief. Yeah, we're watching a show
called Hell on Wheels. Have I talked about this
before? This story reminds me of that because
it's the story of them building the railroad
out west. Like the pioneers that have to conquer
the Indian... The Indian land and all the craziness
that comes with going west. It's a cool story.
And this is kind of like, you know, this whole
railroad thing is kind of tapping into that.
It's kind of neat. Yeah. I know the people that
we visited up there, he said that in Wyoming,
people are very much, leave me alone. Yeah. And
stay off my property. Right. And they're like,
if they catch you on their ranch. They'll kill
you. They're not, yeah, they have their own form
of. Yes. Interesting. Yeah, so you don't want
to just wander like if you're hunting. To where
they don't find you anymore. They take you to
the train station, I guess. In pieces. In pieces,
I guess. Interesting. All right, we got to rate
this thing. I think I made it to half on this.
Damn. This is good. I like this a lot. That's
really high. Yeah. What do you got? I'm eight
three. I was going to go higher, but. I started
off at 8 .3, and I heard Jeff say 5. I was like,
I don't want to be a follower, so I'm going to
stick with 8 .3. I'm definitely over an 8. I'm
probably not as high as an 8 .5. So I'm going
to go with 8 .3 as well. This is good. This is
better than what I remember it being up there.
It's spectacular. It's really good. So this is
the Crafted in Wyoming. This is Brush Creek Railroad
Rye, straight rye whiskey. This is the 108 Boxcar
II. And we scored high on that. It's a distiller
only, right? Yes. God bless. All right, good
stuff. Fun back end of the topics for the Dudes
Like Us podcast on the second half. Yeah, we
were all over the place. Like we normally are.
That's all right. Well, I hope it was entertaining.
We give a lot of interesting insight to a lot
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