You mean boom, boom, boom. The boat went boom,
boom. Boom, boom. Ba -da -bing, ba -da -boom.
Wow. Second half of the Dudes Like Us podcast.
It's September 2nd. First podcast of September.
September, October, November, December. Four
months left of the year. I had a finger cramp
trying to count. You're doing really well, Sean.
I'm about to whip out a toe to see if I can't
get it in there. All right, my point is, you
know, Halloween's right around the corner. You
know? I mean, it really is. It is, yes. September,
October. Many things are right around the corner.
I know. Thanksgiving and Christmas and colder
weather and motorcycle weather. I think I'm going
to be out of town for Halloween. Oh. A way to
shit on our parade. How convenient. Yes. Where
are you headed to? Washington, D .C. Oh, that
sounds like fun. Yes. It's football weather,
gentlemen. I'm going as a thug gangster. I'm
so excited. Football's back. Oh, yeah. Are you
in the Smithsonian while you're out there? I
don't know if I have time. But if I do, yes.
I don't think I'll have time, though. Yeah. It'd
be difficult to go there and not be able to listen
and go to, I mean, what is it, like two, three
days to actually see things? Oh, yeah. You see,
there's a lot of the Smithsonian. It takes a
long time to get through all of them. There's
going to be way too many people. And that's where
the marathon is, right through all that shit.
Oh, that's why you're going. Yeah. Oh, there's
a marathon out there. Okay, I was going to ask
you, why are you going out there? Okay, very
cool. Julie's running the Marine Corps Marathon,
and I think it goes through the, whatever the
hell they, what is that called? The whole section.
The mall? The mall, yes. The mall, yeah. Yeah,
part of it, they're running through that, so
there's going to be blocked off, and there's
going to be thousands of people milling around.
watching. Well, hold on. How long does a marathon
take? Three hours, right? If you're really good.
And that's what you need to go to the Smithsonian.
Three hours. So while she's running in circles,
you can go to the Smithsonian. Dude, you can
hop on the USS Minnow and three hour tour. That's
true. I get lost. The expectation is that I'm
meeting up with her several times along the route
to provide her nutrition and fluids and stuff
like that. You can't have a stand -in? Yeah.
Well, that's why I'm going to do this for her.
What about somebody who looks like you? So I
can go to the museum? I want to hire some guy.
Hey, come on, do this for me. Can you just be
creative with this, please? You can go to the
Smithsonian. All right, we haven't introduced
ourselves. I'm Sean. I'm Paul. And I'm Jeff.
All right, back to that. Do you need an imposter?
Yes. Well, I'm going up there to help her more
than. Go to the Smithsonian. You can check us
out on dudeslikeus -podcast on Instagram and
Facebook. If you guys want to see what we actually
look like, a bunch of fools. I was going to say
retards, but I don't know if you want to use
that word. We don't look bad. Well, we've also
started posting shorts. Yeah. So keep an eye
out for those. Paul's doing a very good job posting.
Check me out. I'm a video editor. Check out Paul's.
Check out Paul's shorts on Instagram. Now, I
did look what it would take to get onto YouTube
shorts. whatever you're doing is not going to
work because it has to be a vertical video. I
don't know what that means, but we can talk about
that after podcast. Vertical, what you're doing
is a letterbox. Oh. Widescreen. Well, I guarantee
DaVinci can do what we're trying to do. Yeah,
if you could turn that into a vertical because
people use it on their phone, right? Okay, I'm
on it. So they wanted to fill the whole screen.
I'm on it. Okay. Like that, right? So all the
shorts I do from now on need to be vertical?
Correct. Okay, I'm on it. That sounds like fun.
All right. Well, hold on. We were talking about,
first of all, our prior podcast. We had Heather
Liner. Yeah, a wine sommelier. She is really
the real deal. She's the real deal. If you guys
haven't listened to the prior podcast that you're
listening to right now, I recommend you listen
to it. I mean, she's extremely knowledgeable.
She was on the podcast prior. Right. And, I mean,
I got blown up. I mean, we all got blown up.
I just couldn't talk at the end. You got blown
up the most. I don't think you ate that day was
part of the problem. Yeah, I didn't eat today
either, man, but that's okay. I mean, I walked
into this with a little bit – I think we all
walked into this with a little bit of a different
attitude. I mean, that podcast, we had like a
sample of the infinity. We were excited to have
her on, and we were kind of like opening everything
up. We had three bottles of wine plus the Vixen,
which was, what, 20 -something percent. So, yeah,
Sean went nonverbal for about the last 15 minutes.
I love how getting blown up manifests itself
differently for each of us. You get quiet. I
walk home. And what do you do? What do you do,
Jeff? When you get blown up. I don't know. You
don't know. You don't remember. I try to stay
on the couch. I try to stop before I go. I've
been blown up enough times. I try to stop before
I get there now. You're probably the best at
it. I will tell you that. I don't like the feeling
of getting that drunk anymore. I hear you. Yeah,
I don't either. It gets old. I like getting the
buzz and maintaining that. And there's a fine
line where you go over that. Yes. And I've kind
of learned what that line is, and I feel like
shit if I pass that line. I don't mind getting
a little toasty, but nowadays with the whole
calorie counting and just really trying to make
an effort to shed some of this weight, I'm taking
it a little bit serious. Different approach.
And it's just because I never realized. Probably
15, 18 years ago, I was doing... installs for
Ultra Media, Pat Johnson and his wife. She's
so sweet. That's back when I was playing World
of Warcraft. I was picking up some product because
they're a small media company, but they do really
high -tech stuff. They're excellent at what they
do. I don't think they're in business anymore,
but that's because he retired. I remember talking
about how I would drink wine and playing my World
of Warcraft because I would have a... really
a five liter box of Franzia Pinot Noir because
I love wine and she was like oh my god it's so
many calories and back then it didn't even I
was like whatever man yeah who cares be quiet
what's going on over there and back then it was
okay because you were burning so many throughout
the day yeah I mean it just it didn't affect
me like this but now now I'm getting it and I
understand So I need a – that's just – it's something
new for me. Before, it was quantity, you know,
because I don't really eat bad. I just eat a
lot. But now – but what I didn't realize when
we talked about this before was the nuts. I'm
eating a lot of nuts, you know, and I just take
a handful two, three, four times a day. Well,
shit, that's 1 ,000 calories. Yeah, easy. I make
little bags of – I measure it out. So there's
a bag, that snack, I have it once a day. Because
you can overdo it on nuts. Oh, you can. Like
the Brazil nuts. If you eat too many of those,
you can get selenium poisoning. Well, I don't
like those anyway. Well, I like them. But I know
Sean takes them. I was reading, okay, can I take
these? How much can I take of this nut, of this
nut, of this nut? And I have mixed nuts down
there, and Brazil nuts was one of them. And it
says they're high in selenium. No, Costco stopped
selling that. And you can actually get poison
from eating too many of those. The max of four
a day. You get strontium poisoning. Close. Selenium.
That's weird. Dr. Barbara O 'Neill says to eat
five a day. She's not a real doctor, by the way.
Uh -oh. Just saying. Well, she's not a real doctor
now. They took away her medical degree. She never
was a doctor. Who are we talking about? She's
a nutritionist, whatever she is. And she's good.
She got banned in Australia. Oh, that's because
she was telling the truth. Huh? Doctor who? Dr.
Barbara O 'Neill. Barbara O 'Neill. Okay. She's
changed a lot of people's lives forever in a
positive way. Okay. It's just about what you
eat, what you should eat. So it's interesting
that you said you eat five, and she was recommending
five. Yeah. Well, it was chat BPT or whatever
it says. Each nut has this much selenium in it.
Its average, I think, max was four to five a
day. Right. Otherwise, you start getting toxic.
Toxic levels of it. I eat a cashew every three
hours. A cashew. So that's eight a day. Yeah.
That's a lot. A cashew. Yeah. I mean, what size
is it? Oh, there's one of those mega ginormous
ones. Just fucking. The ones that looks like
a mango. And those actually aren't even nuts.
Do you know that? They're a seed? They're fruit.
No shit. Yes. See, I'm eating fruit. Yeah, they're
fruits. You didn't know that? No, I'm trying
to wrap my head around that. A cashew is a fruit.
Yes. It can originate from a fruit called the
cashew apple, but the part we eat is the C, the
kidney -shaped droop. So what about the fruit?
Fruit salad, yummy, yummy. Can you eat the fruit
of a cashew? I love cashews, by the way. Oh,
I do. They're very good. They're high in fat.
Really? Yeah. Damn it, man. Now, I don't think
it's horrible fat, but it's more fat content,
I'd say, than an avocado. You just got to...
Nuts are very good for you, but you have to really
control the amount you're eating per day. Yeah.
A serving is like a quarter cup. That's what
I do. I have a quarter cup. And you know how
small that is? It's so unsatisfying. I know.
You take a little quarter cup and dump it on
your plate. You're like, seriously? Yeah. I put
it in a bowl. What am I in trouble? That's what
I eat. Might be punished. Right. You're like,
come on, man. That's the way, like, when Paul,
I go over to his house and he serves me a drink.
I'm like, really? That's it? And you grab the
bottle out of my hand. Glug, glug, glug, glug,
glug, glug, glug. Yes. Get off me, bitch. Those
things are actually kind of nasty looking. It
does. I've never heard, I never knew that there
was a cashew. I want to find out, can you eat
the actual apple? Yes, you can, but you wouldn't
want to. Oh, because they taste, they're astringent
and sometimes unpalatable. Astringent. Interesting.
Yep. So, I mean, you could make them into a jam
if you put enough sugar into it, I suppose. What's
the point of that? Or alcoholic beverage. Oh,
okay. Hold on. I'm listening. Maybe they're jamming
in a Fig Newton. The taste can be a mixture of
sweet, sour, acidic, and nutty, sometimes compared
to a blend of mango and peach. Interesting. Gross.
Huh. I love the cashews. That's a lot of fruit
to go through to just get one. Yeah, because
you imagine you have a whole big old batch of
cashews. I mean, what are they doing with all
this extra? Yeah. I mean, is it just thrown aside?
Well, maybe they feed it to like the hogs or
something. I don't know. Hold on. You're telling
me they have like a cashew fruit orchard? It's
a tree, yeah. And they are picking these fruits,
peeling them off all the shit, taking the seed.
What's with the noise? Yeah, I don't know. Well,
the seed's on the outside. You see it? Oh, no,
no. I didn't. Yeah. Well, that's the noise when
they de -seed it. Yes. Okay, can we stop clicking?
I'm not sure why we're clicking. Why'd you have
to be picking the... Yeah, well, it doesn't sound
like that. It's not like... Well, we don't know.
We've never heard cashews being picked. What
are you, a squirrel? I don't know. Well, I'd
like to dive into it a little bit more, find
out. I had no idea. They are tasty. Show us a
video of them harvesting cashew fruit. I'm actually
very intrigued. Right there. And you're saying
it's on the outside. Yes. Okay. Very interesting.
All right. This is going to be very informative
when this comes up. Oh, look at this lady. Look
at those eyes. I don't know what she's doing.
She's trying to show a little cleavage, I think.
She is. And for those of you who have no idea
what I'm talking about or who I am. Hi, I'm Val.
I'm a very vegan Val. And this is a cashew apple.
They can either be yellow or red. And right here
at the bottom is where the cashew nut grows.
Every single cashew you've ever eaten. has grown
on a cashew apple. That is crazy. It is kind
of bananas to think about the number of cashew
apples that grew for a bag of cashews. Now, you
might have noticed that my cashew apples have
been frozen. That's why they're a little bit
mushy and wrinkly and occasionally dripping water.
So I live in New England and not in South America
or India where they're more common. So she has
a plate of them. They look like kind of a yellow
sweet potato thing with an oversized cashew.
So do they peel the cashew shell back? The shell
is toxic. Go a little bit further down the line.
There's a shell around that nut. Now she's got
the cutting board. Good, good, good. Sometimes
you can usually just twist them off, but because
it's frozen. Looks like a brain. It does kind
of look bulbous and moist. A lot of effort for
one cachet. They must have machines that go...
And interestingly, you can't actually eat that
cashew yet. Inside the shell, there's a toxic
substance that's similar to poison ivy. So you
really want to avoid ingesting it or getting
it on your hands. Poison ivy? Looks like the
cashew has a... Yeah, the toxic inside that's
similar to poison ivy. I also made sure to cut
off the part of... Who learned how to eat this
first? The cashew apple that directly touched
where the nut was? Because it is similar to poison
ivy. Hey, Mikey, he likes it. He'll cut open
anything. I actually just got my first poison
ivy rash like a week ago. I want to see them
de -shell it. Did she just eat that? I don't
know. I think she is eating that. I think she
might be. She's kind of fruity. She just blended
it. Oh, the apple. Oh, and now she's... Now she's
outside with... She's got sunglasses on. Oh,
my God. Damn it. Now I got an ad. Living Spaces.
Living Spaces. They have cheap beer. Oh, they
do? My understanding is that the key is going
to be roasting them. And in the process, they
give off a lot of flammable gas. So you have
to do this outside. Like shots of ice. She's
kind of juggy. I do want to stress that I have
no idea what I'm doing. And this is absolutely
not a tutorial. It is an experiment. Okay, so
she's got on top of a grill. So she's got four
nuts. She's roasting them. She really is. You
know, not really. Just got a smoking. And they're
getting black. I was expecting them to like blow
up. This is fascinating, actually. She's going
to eat those in two seconds. Well, yeah, there's
only four of them. But they're ginormous. That's
why they cost $10 a pound. Here we go. She has
a little hammer. Oh, my gosh. She does have a
hammer. Should have used a thermometer. Yeah,
a little meter. Whoa. What the hell are those?
Pistachios. Looks like toenails. What kind of
toenails do you have there? Old people toenails.
This has been so enlightening. I had no freaking
idea. Now you know. You know how often this shit
is like this where we have no idea where this
stuff comes from? Any of these type of things.
Did you know that? How did you know that? I knew
that. You grew up on a - Thailand, where the
cashews grow. Yeah, a cashew farm. Yeah, he would
harvest those cashew apples and he sous vide
them. Yes. How did you know? How did you know?
I was watching some documentary program and it
was on there. Like how things are made? Something
like that, probably. Where things come from?
I think it was. Where things come from? Probably.
It was a Lady Gaga song that went through the
history of - We got cashews. On the cashew, yeah.
On the History Channel. Yes. I watch stupid documentaries
like that. That's cool. That's where I get that
shit. I love documentaries like that. Well, they
have how things are made, right? Where things
come from. Some like that. I mean, YouTube is,
look, I don't, nobody really, it's fun to go
down these rabbit holes or what do they call
it? Death dives. What do they call it? Death
scrolling. Death scrolling. You can death scroll
through these little Instagram stuff and YouTube
stuff, but man, I really, love hitting those
YouTube documentaries. Whatever they are. They
could be anything. I haven't seen this one. That
was interesting. Okay. Use your mind to like
Tibet and you know. Tibet. Just Tibet? Random.
Man, that takes me back to my Tibet days. I mean,
I'm just talking about, you know, just old school
history. The land before time. Crystal skulls.
Like what, dinosaurs? And Tibet. Crystal skulls.
Well, you know, I mean, there's a lot of fun
shit out there. You are all over the place right
now. Cambodia. Kind of like narco boats. Well,
dude, I mean, now you see the video of that.
I mean, I saw a little clip before the podcast
started. So what started this? When did Trump
make or did the administration make some sort
of announcement saying, hey, man, we're drawing
a line in the sand? Yeah, well, they declared
cartels. terrorist organization so they could
use the military against them, right? They moved
a whole fleet of ships down to the... Outside
of Venezuela. To go pick these fuckers off. This
one got through and in the Caribbean, as you
can see from this nice military video, they just
torched the shit out of it. Yeah, they missiled
it. It doesn't look like a huge missile, but
it's enough to basically kill everyone on board.
Destroy whatever's on the side. Do you think
the missile cost more than the drugs that were
inside of it? I don't know. Those drugs are pretty
expensive. Yeah, they are. I don't know. What
kind of missile was it? I mean, it was something
that happened. It incinerated everything. It
doesn't look huge, but it looks very flammable.
Like they dropped some napalm on it or something.
Boom. Like the boat didn't get destroyed. No,
it really didn't. It didn't explode into a million
pieces like you would expect when a missile hits
something. That's true. It's just everything.
Instantly catches on fire. So good. They used
a cheaper missile. That's what we wanted. I think
they just dropped a Molotov cocktail just outside
of a helicopter. Kind of like, to the left! To
the left! A little bit more to the left! I missed!
No, they were throwing those flammable cashews
out the way. They're zigzagging. Damn it. Flaming
nuts. The turkeys, they're falling. Oh, the humanity.
Turkeys. Okay. Less than this one. Yes. From
WKRP. Yeah, so I think this is fucking great.
I like the message it sends. So basically, these
cartels probably didn't think anything was going
to happen. Well, now they do. Now they know something's
going to happen to these. And I still think that
these cartels are adjusting to the whole new
border because most of their money came from
human trafficking over the last, Biden years,
right? They were making billions of dollars off
human trafficking. Well, that's pretty much drying
up. So they're looking for ways to get that business
back. And I heard that they're starting to go
out into the Gulf and come up through the coastlines.
Right. And I guess they're sending the Coast
Guard down there. I don't know about the Navy,
but the Coast Guard. There were these boats.
They would just literally just kamikaze the beach.
That was in San Diego. There's footage of that.
Yeah. They literally get in their boat, and they
haul ass straight to the shore, and whoop, they
pull up, and I think they were - Like 10 guys
almost get out and sprint into the city. The
problem with that is they're going to use, if
they're going to continue to smuggle humans,
which you're saying they're looking for different
ways to do that, they're going to use them as
human shields. We're not going to blow up boats
that have humans on them. Well, there are humans
on that. Well, no. You know what I mean. Like
Americans. Not the people they're smuggling,
right? But I don't know. Man, it's a mess. Is
he going to raise the stakes on this thing? Because,
you know, these cartels are kind of crazy. So
are they going to try to go toe -to -toe with
some of these military operations? I don't think
so because they have nothing like the U .S. military.
Of course they don't, but they can cause some
damage. Sure they can. They still have lots of
money. They got some weapons. I think we already
have assets local. On the ground in Mexico? Absolutely.
We have assets local. We would have to. If you
put a tier one team in there, SEAL team, whatever,
they're going to go in there and clean house.
These cartels, yes, they're mean, they're nasty,
they have training, but they're nothing like
these tier one teams. Of course not. Of course
not. I'm just thinking. is it going to be tit
for tat, right? If they're going to say, oh,
you're going to blow up my boats, we're going
to... Yeah, well, we're going to go to Cancun
and kill a bunch of United States citizens. Or
they're going to blow up, you know, set up a
bomb in El Paso. But they're hurting themselves
because they're going to cut down. Look, the
majority of money that Mexico makes comes from
us. Right. Unless China's paying them to make
their factories down there. But I think we're
starting to cut those people out too. I mean,
I love... I don't want to say everything, but
I love what Trump is doing. The Panama Canal
and kicking China out? Yeah. Who the fuck do
they think they were taking over that anyway?
What's the latest on that? I heard something
fell through and China's getting a foothold again.
Are they? Is what I heard. I haven't heard anything
ever since. Right at the very beginning, was
that January or whenever the hell that was coming
down? I don't know what the latest on that is.
Yeah, I don't know either. Yeah, we'll have to
do that. We'll have to do a little digging on
this one. Yeah, check that out and come back
to it when you get something for us. So where
did you, did you read that on Breitbart? Yeah,
I just remember, like, at first, Trump, the administration
was trying to broker a deal to where China was
going to sell their stake in something to another
company, and then that was going to solve the
problem. China was going to get out of it, and
then that fell through. I heard that we went
there and said, you got to go. And they left
because they don't own it. Panama didn't have
the authority to let the China occupy the Panama
Canal. I thought they did. We officially handed
it over to them. Well, we officially commandeered
it from what I understood. We paid for it. United
States taxpayers paid for that. Well, I think
what they were saying is the Panamanians were
charging the U .S. ships like... Ten times more
than what everyone else was paying. And then
China denied that. Correct. Whoever was running
the... Go up a little bit. I just saw something.
China issues new threats to block Panama Canal
ports. That was July of this year. They're threatening
to block a deal that would transfer ownership
of dozens of seaports, including two ports at
the Panama Canal. So they're trying to work a
deal that would get China out of it. And I don't
think it's happened. So, interesting. Fuck around
and find out. That seems to be the common denominator
right now. That's right. BlackRock was going
to take it on. Really? Yep. A shareholder of
the ports with BlackRock and Mediterranean Shipping
Company, a container ship operator. Interesting.
So, yeah, they're trying to work out something.
I don't know. It's all shady. It's always shady.
I don't know, man. There's tons of money in this
thing. Well, BlackRock's probably going to take
over it, and they're going to charge just as
much. Right, or more. Yeah. I don't know. And
then they have their teeth in it, and plus they
probably have a stake or contacts within our
Congress, which will pass laws. Man, this whole
thing is a scam. I don't trust any of it. I don't
believe any of them. Yeah, so he goes into some
detail here. I don't know if we want to read
all this, but basically they're trying to work
out a deal to where China sells their stake.
For $23 billion. Yes. It's a lot. They're going
to make their money on this. But who they're
selling it to, I don't know. I don't know if
it's better for us. 43 ports in 23 countries?
Yeah, and why is that the case? I mean, why are
they expanding this to be such a massive deal
here? They want China out of everything? I guess,
maybe, I don't know. Well, it encompasses 43
ports in 23 countries. Is that what I mean? Why
is it such a big, why are they expanding this
to be way beyond Panama, right? I don't know.
I don't know. Maybe I'm just reading just portions
of this. I need to read the whole thing to understand.
Yeah, it's pretty convoluted. All right, we'll
get back to it. We'll get back to it. All right,
but hey. It's September. There's a lot of exciting
things happening right now. Football. I'm excited
about college football. Yes, college football
has officially started up. The NFL starts up
this coming weekend. Thursday. Dallas Cowboys
are playing Thursday night. Yeah, that's right.
Is this the Hall of Fame game? The Screaming
Eagles, yeah. Okay. No, the Hall of Fame game
is the first preseason game. This is just the
kickoff. Oh, just the kickoff of the regular
season. Okay, I got you. And there'll be games
Thursday night and then regular. Beautiful. So
the next podcast, we can start talking about
things that are happening in the NFL because
we just had our draft, and we all did excellent
on our drafts. I got an A -plus again. I don't
know what grade you got. I don't think that matters.
I got a C. I think I got a D or D -minus. I don't
even know. Barry said you got a D. There were
a lot of bad ones this year. There were five
Ds out of the 12. I was like, what? Crazy. Yeah,
I don't believe it because I was reading – well,
I mean, I believe it says that I had a D. But
it was saying stuff that's not true. I mean,
you know, they were saying I drafted, you know,
three cornerbacks. And I was like, I didn't draft
three cornerbacks. I have a receiver that plays
both positions. So I'm thinking, you know, part
of that fed into it. So it is saying that. And,
you know, plus there's two – one of my players
isn't starting yet, you know, or he hasn't been
signed yet. And I think that has something to
do with it. Whatever. Oh, there's always some
– First off, it's kind of witty, and it's so
harsh. Oh, I know it is. It's so mean. It is.
The AI -generated draft score, they're so mean.
I mean, I got an A +, and still it told me, oh,
the worst pick was Baker Mayfield. Not sure what
you were thinking there. I was like, what the
hell, man? Even in an A +, it gives me some shitty
comment. I had half my team was in the top 10.
I know. It doesn't mean anything. We all know
that. By the way, what are your feelings on first
pick, last pick, mid pick? I have had the first
pick several times. Yes. I mean, it's bittersweet.
Yeah, I get the first pick, but it's not always
great because I remember that one year where
I had Ezekiel Elliott, and he did poo -poo. I'm
not a big fan of it. Well, you have one pick,
and you've got to wait. 11, and then 11 more.
So you've got to wait 22 picks before your next
pick. I'm not a big fan of the first pick. No.
I'm not a big fan. So here's the opening of my
grade. Well, well, well, if it isn't Alpha Mike
Foxtrot coming in hot with a draft grade of C
-. They snagged the seventh pick in a 12 -team
league, which means they had a decent shot at
some big names. Unfortunately. It seems like
they might have taken a few wrong turns on the
way to the fantasy promised land. Nice. Yeah,
I think every single one of them were critical.
Why can't they make this thing positive or uplifting?
Debbie Downer. No shit. I just want it to blow
smoke up your ass. Yes, that's exactly what we
want. We don't want to be made fools of. Actually,
I think it's fun banter. But I think they need
to balance it out with some positives. You want
to know the secret to getting a good grade? Put
it on Autodraft. They will love the whole thing
because they picked it themselves. I'm convinced
that's what Barry's doing. I haven't seen him
over there, but he's logging things into Yahoo
as they go. Right? Yeah, he's putting them into
the teams, so it makes it easier to start the
league for all of us. It's been my experience,
not necessarily with Yahoo, because I haven't
done it, but with ESPN, when you are doing that...
Yeah, I'll show you the next one. It'll give
you highlights of what should be your next pick.
Yeah, I can promise you he does not. I'm not
saying he does or doesn't, but I mean... Shuttle
that we're talking. How come we can't all have
our computers there and all be logged into Yahoo
and do it that way? We've talked about it. Is
there a fight against that? I just think nobody's
taken a step to see if that can be something.
Well, here's a benefit for that. So this year
we had a bunch of people bitching and moaning
because of schedules, right? People were traveling
and this or that. And if we're on our laptops,
if someone couldn't make it, they could sit wherever
they wanted and join via. We run the risk of
everybody starting to do that, and then we no
longer have an in -person draft, which everybody
loves. The people that don't love it just don't
show up. I mean, we would still show up, and
we're the really people that only matter. And
be honest, Barry's in Durango. Do you think he's
going to be showing up for the next one? I think
he'll always show up for the draft, yeah. I think
he will. I don't know. I hope Barry does. I like
Barry. I'm just saying it's an option. Hey, I
got to be out of town, but I can make the draft
if I can be online. It would cure a lot of the
15. I mean, we'll still have our pages, but to
search for players, you know. It's tricky. You
know what I mean? Because, look, honestly, I
printed off a bunch of shit, and I was like,
this is not going to work. I have to have bigger
font, you know. And that was a struggle. So I
had a literally groomed mind. Will you go like
this? I had a group mind. I had to copy and paste
it, retype a bunch of stuff. And even with that,
it was still a struggle. I had tiny little font,
and thank God for my trifocal glasses because,
oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. No, I wouldn't have been
able to see shit. I did a pretty good job on
this draft in terms of keeping track of where
the people were and crossing the mountain. And
you're on phone with Linda. Yeah, she was in
my hearing aids. I tell you what, the most trouble
I have is when we start getting into the later
rounds, 13, 15, because people really start jumping
up and down the players at that point. I just
don't know why we have to go so fast. If you
don't want to get frustrated towards the end
of the draft about people saying, oh, he's already
been taken, oh, he's already been taken, then
give everybody the chance to find the player.
Yeah, just let everybody find the player. But
Barry's like, come on, come on, come on. I'm
like, dude. Well, he doesn't have to deal with
it because he just checks it off on the Yahoo
website. He doesn't have to keep track of it.
I don't know if he's crossing off on a piece
of paper or not. But he knows if they're taken
or not. Yeah, I guess. Well, then he would have
to type in their names to see if they're taken
or not. He remembers a lot of shit. I think he
just. He memorizes who's been taken. He's kind
of like you. He's an elephant where he just freaking
remembers everything. But we just need more time
to cross the people off the list. Anyway, highlights
from college football. We had our first weekend.
Arch Manning apparently got torched in terms
of his performance. Yeah, I was very excited.
I'm a big Ohio State fan, so I watched the Buckeye
and Longhorn game. It was a decent game, not
real offensive. Both defenses were very, very
stout. Yes, and apparently Arch Manning's offense
was panned very harshly. They did not look good.
I'm not saying Ohio State was blazing, but they
looked better than Texas did. And I don't know
if that's because maybe Ohio State's defense
is better, but Texas' defense looked really good
as well. So it could be just two really strong
– we'll have to see what they're going to do
the next few games, right? Yeah. I guess the
one good thing is you don't – I know a lot of
teams put an easy opponent in the first couple
games. Those two games. They didn't. Normally
they do. And I know they want to tweak their
offense and tweak their defense so that when
they're playing good teams, they're ready for
them. This game is not going to hurt either one
of them too much because it was one in three.
So they're not going to really affect their rankings.
But my point is this. I think they just flipped.
Yeah, they just flipped. And my point is, Texas
may go, I mean, Arch Manning may go off in the
next couple weeks. Right. And then they go, they
look back at this and they say, damn, if we had
played Ohio State, if we had played Ohio State
when we were clicking like we are, we would have
crushed them. I mean, he had 170 yards passing.
Right. One touchdown. I mean, that's a success
in NFL. I mean, not the 170, but you know. But
A, there was a lot of. preseason hype on this
guy, right? Oh, huge hype. And then B, if you
looked at those passes, they were not accurate.
Yeah, they weren't good. They were comparing
him to the Napoleon Dynamite's brother where
he was throwing the sidearm. Well, his first
pass skipped off the ground and went to the receiver.
That doesn't count? It's like ping pong. But
they had a lot of bad calls from what I saw.
I mean, there were catches that should have been
touchdowns, I thought. And it's just like, are
you kidding me? What was the game? I watched
the A &M game. What was the game? The guy was
right in the end zone. Not the end zone, but
he was right at the three -yard line. He catches
it, and it's like, all right, he caught it. He
took a step, and then he's in the end zone. The
ball was over the line. Why wasn't it a touchdown?
I didn't get it. They called him down at the
one. Yeah, by the one -inch line. Well, Florida
State's running upset over Alabama. That was
probably the most talked -about upset, wasn't
it? I'm a fan of that. Florida State beating
Alabama. I know folks hate Ohio State just as
much as they do Alabama. I'm tired of hearing,
especially maybe it's because where we live maybe,
about how great SEC is, how great Alabama is.
It's the best ever. When Saban was there, they
were damn good. Yeah, they're sliding. And they're
sliding quick. Right. And I like seeing these
fans, I don't know. Back to reality. Correct.
Suffer. Correct. I kind of feel that way about
the Chiefs right now. Did you see the meme with
the kid up in the stands? And this was on live
TV, and it was an Alabama student. And the camera
comes to him, and they're down by two touchdowns,
and he gives the camera to the bird. Yeah. Really?
Oh, dude. So they're bitter. Ooh. Yeah, they're
bitter. Anyway, so yeah, so that was... Oh, there
it is right there. No way. Oh, greatness. Cut,
cut. Some dude with a blue shirt just kissed
the guy. Oh, that's just funny. That is so bitter.
They were looking for the, you know, the Cobra
surrender, Cobra, right? You know, the van going,
ah, or crying or something like that. And he
just gave him the bird. Yeah, he was, yeah. He
was not going to humor them. That's greatness.
All right, cool. What about the clutch win for
Miami over Notre Dame? Oh, I didn't even hear
about this. I didn't even hear about that. What
happened there? Well, number 10 Miami over Notre
Dame, number six. Was that last night? When was
that game? It was a night game. They may have
had, they had some football yesterday, didn't
they? I think it was yesterday. 27 over 24 victory.
Sunday night. The first win over a top 10 team
in nearly eight years. That's a good one. I have
to say I'm not a huge fan of Miami just based
off of the Miami from the Jimmy Johnson era.
That era. Catholics versus convicts. Yeah, the
Michael Irvin era. When was that? The early 90s?
Yeah. Where it was just, I don't know, it was
just over the top. They've been down for quite
a while. They've had some stretches where they've
been good, but it's good to see that they're
coming back. But I'm not a huge fan of Miami.
I think Rock Johnson played for them. He was
a defensive lineman, I think. Did he really?
Yes. I didn't know that. I wonder if he was good.
I think he was. I was looking. There was a catch
that a guy made over the weekend that the dude
just stretched out. Oh, yeah. It did almost a
360, right? Yeah. Was it in the Notre Dame game?
It might have been. I totally missed. I missed
a lot of highlights. That was an insane catch.
Interception, by the way. He just turns around
and one arms it. And then in the air, just does
a 360. It was crazy. And you know it hurt. These
kids are so talented, man. I think it might have
been that one. I guess you could say that was
on the money. Oh, nice. No, it was another one,
but that one's good, too. Yeah, Daniel's from...
Who's their quarterback now? That was a touchdown.
Yeah, that one was a touchdown. Golly. Is it
raining? It's Miami, so probably. That Notre
Dame guy should have just whacked his hand. That's
all it would have taken. What a catch, though.
And in the rain. That's a testimony to those
gloves that they wear. Maybe. Oh, they're sticky.
They are sticky, though, right? Oh, yeah, they
are. Once I saw Odell Beckham do that thing against
the Cowboys, I'm like, okay, these gloves are
made of glue. Well, the kids that would play
with Brandon and even the Pee Wee League, they
would have the sticky gloves. I don't know what
they're made out of. They don't have anything
applied to them. But the rubber or plastic themselves,
yeah, it's like a latex. It was your ball. It's
not going to, if you get it on your hand, you
grab it. Is it traction or is it like an adhesive?
It's not an adhesive. It's whatever it's made
out of. And it's very grippy. You're saying so
we could go outside and put these gloves on and
we can start making these catches like these
guys? Yes. We stick our hand way out. We would
rip it. Suck it in and be like. Then you wouldn't
be able to move for. A month. We'd be laying
there. Oh, my rib. I trumped. I broke my whole
right side. Yes. Yeah, we would not move if we
tried that attempt. And we're all standing over
you and saying, Jeff, that was a nice catch.
Fuck you. I can't breathe. 9 -1 -1. Oh, man.
Anyway. I am slowly realizing, getting to the
realization that I need to ask help for certain
things now. Okay. Like carrying in the groceries?
No, I could do that, but lifting extremely heavy
things. Yeah. I know I can do it, but I'm going
to hurt myself doing it. Yes. And I don't want
to hurt myself doing it anymore. I've done it
enough times. I've gotten really good at relying
on my boys for stuff. Because before, I'd be
like, I got this. And Shelly would be like, help
your father. And I'm like, I got this. It's not
a big deal. Now I'm like, yeah, help your father.
Yeah. I don't have any boys in the house anymore.
That's right. You got Alex. Jeff doesn't either.
That's right. That's right. See, I'm just going
to keep my boys around to help me with carrying
heavy things. That works. By the way, how is
your son doing? He went to Texas A &M University.
He's going to Blinn right now. Well, Preston's
going to A &M. Austin's going to be going to
Blinn as long as he can. Yeah, both your boys
are down there. That's excellent. Yeah, right
now they're doing fine. Austin, he's trying to
get a job. He had applied to H -E -B. Is that
right? H -E -B. That's what you said. I should
have talked to someone if she's got any pull.
Maybe. If he's going to sell wine, yeah. I mean,
whatever, man. He's 21. 22. Whatever. He was
promised a job there. And the guy was like, oh,
to Preston. He was like, oh, yeah, that's for
sure. I can get him in. That's not a problem
at all. And now there's nothing. Right. You know
what? You can get the cards. And he's like, bitch,
please. Preston works at a restaurant. Yeah,
but for Austin. Yeah, so Preston knew somebody
that could... Yeah, one of the guys frequents
where Preston works. And Preston works out with
him. So, you know, they're at their gym together.
And Austin's actually working out with him too
now. So, whatever, man. I mean, I'm trying my
best to... He'll find something. Yeah, I'm trying
to kind of... separate myself from them. I want
to let them do their thing. Help them be adults.
I shoot them text messages once in a while reminding
them that, hey, I love you. Just thinking about
you. Hope you're doing well. This weekend, I
may go and see them. I don't know yet. I think
I may invite them to come down for Halloween.
I don't know. I don't know, man. It's a different
game for me right now with them because I want
to give them the space. I definitely want, I
do have concerns, but, you know, they're normal
parent concerns, you know, drinking and driving.
I'm not saying they're doing it, but, you know.
Yeah, we all worry about different things like
that and hope that they're making good decisions.
I sent text messages reminding them, hey, look,
I just want to let you guys know that when you
go out and have a good time, I'm all about that.
You're of age. You're a grown -ass man. You can
do what you want. However, I encourage you to
use my credit card to pay for any Uber that you
ever need for the rest of your life. Good decision.
It's crazy. We have friends that they weren't
necessarily driving, but they were the product
of someone that was under the influence. horrible
things happen to their kid. Right. Yeah. You
can't ever be too careful and can't ever not
say too much to them. Right. If that makes sense.
So, whatever. You know, I'm going to wait for
him to figure it out. So, just, it's exciting.
I'm excited for him. You know, I'm anxious to
have Preston kind of finish up whatever the hell
he's got going on and get his ass up here and
have him take on the second part of his career.
When he... slated to graduate this next year,
about a year and a half? Is it May? I'm not sure.
I don't think it's May. It might be another semester
after that. So maybe next December then. Unless
he does it in the summer. But if he needs a full
semester, that'd be the fall semester when she
would graduate in December then. That is exciting.
Yeah. And I think I may have mentioned this in
the prior podcast, but he was hoping to jump
on the Texas A &M football team, and then all
of a sudden they changed their program to where
they're paying their employees. How do you feel
about college students getting paid to play football?
I'm not a fan. I'm not a fan of it. I'm not a
fan at all. There are a lot of these, not all
the kids, but they were getting paid before with
scholarships, in my opinion. If you're in a scholarship,
you're getting paid. That's $30 ,000, $40 ,000,
$50 ,000, depending on what school, $1 ,000 a
year that you're getting paid. Yeah, but free
education versus getting paid $1 .2 million in
cash. No, they're still getting paid. If they're
saying we're not getting paid, you were getting
paid. Yeah. You know, $120 ,000 a year. That's
a lot more than most people make. The difference
is who's paying them, right? If you're getting
a free education from the university versus getting
money from the boosters. Is it the boosters or
these advertisers? It's boosters. Advertisers.
It's boosters through the school, right? Right.
But they have to have advertisers that are funding
these booster clubs. I don't know. I'm a proponent
against the NIL and the transfer portal. I think
that has ruined college football, or it will
be ruining it. I agree. Anytime you have talent
that's brought in, it's supposed to be regional.
We're pulling our guys in regionally. So what
is the NHL name, image, and likeness? Money comes
from business sponsors, organizations called
NIL Collectives, which are often funded by wealthy
donors of fans or fans of specific schools. See,
I think it really is wealthy, wealthy donors,
boosters. Yep, yep. I guess you don't have to
go to the school. Yeah. They just pay the athletes
and say, hey, you know. Post on social media
about my company, and I'll give you $10 million
if you go to A &M. For me, it's kind of like,
hey, man, look, I want this kid to get in, and
I'm going to literally pave his way to get in.
I want him to go there, and I'm going to fund
it. Suck it. Think about it. I'm a billionaire.
Pay to play. Yeah, I'm a billionaire who supports
Georgia, and I can't stand the other schools
and the SECs. It becomes a... These guys have
so much money, they can just pour into anything,
right? Yep. And so they're like, you know what,
I'm going to give my school $30 million to pick
up the top recruits so that we're going to have
a kick -ass fucking football team this year.
I mean, it's just sick. That Alabama gets wind
of that. Oh, we're going to do $50 million. Right.
Oh, it just becomes a bidding war with which
men, which people. Yep, yep. So I think that,
and like I said, the transfer portal has been,
uh abused because what can happen is you have
these kids who will transfer before bowl games
oh wow yeah so i think it opens in december yeah
that window needs to go away yeah i mean the
timing is stupid because you'll have these uh
i think uh i think uh the quarterbacks you'll
see some quarterbacks who may have been you know
losing their job from an incoming because someone
came in and they'll be like, yeah, I'm going
to leave and go to this other school. Yeah, it's
crazy. Usually because there's a chance they'll
get more money. Right. And I think the transfer
portal starts before the coaches can start going
out and recruiting as well. The timing is off
is what it is. So you don't have a chance to
talk and get all this stuff sorted out. You have
a shit ton of people just leaving. It doesn't
give you an opportunity for local talent. Everyone
is harvested from somewhere. It frustrates me
specifically because I wanted Preston to be able
to try out. What happened to trying out for the
team? Is that just not available anymore? You
can't try out? Not in a major program, I don't
think. I don't think you just have walk -ons
anymore. They don't want to spend the time to
find one out of... you know, 200 kids that try
out, they're like, listen, we can handpick anybody
we want in the entire country and pay them. I
mean, it makes sense, but I just think it's shitty.
It's unfortunate. It is because of folks like
Preston who, you know, just want the opportunity.
The next Rudy. Rudy. Is Rudy with a walk -on?
Notre Dame. Notre Dame, yeah. He was more of
a tackling dummy, but yeah. Yeah, he was in the
practice squad, so he was, yeah, he was a tackling
dummy. Wasn't that Samwise Gamegee who played
that? Yeah. I don't know. Yes. I don't know.
From Lord of the Rings. From Lord of the Rings?
Yeah. I can't quit you. What? Wait, that's in
Lord of the Rings? No. He might as well have
been. Come on, Mr. Frodo. I can't carry it for
you. But I can carry you. Yeah, they did have
some broke back moments in that, didn't they?
Gazing at each other. Yeah, they did. Yeah. They're
kind of like, no, you can't. He'd walk in the
water chasing after them. They're hobbits. These
are the hobbits. Oh, yeah. Welcome back, Paul.
Okay. Well, no, I mean, I don't remember their
names. I mean, there's a lot of people that have
died in that movie, Lord of the Rings. Oh, is
it a curse? Yeah, I don't know. I mean, maybe
it's their age. I don't know what the deal is,
man. All the actors have died in real life is
what you're saying. Correct, correct, yeah. And
there's an actor that just died. What's his name?
The Indian. Wasn't he the guy in that commercial
with the teardrop coming down his eyeball? No,
that was an Italian. What? They had an Italian
playing a chief? Yeah, the crying Indian was
an Italian. Oh, my God. The ultimate cultural
appropriation. Yeah, that was bad. Yep. The crying
Indian was actually Italian. Yeah, but Graham
Greene. I told you, Rick. Tatanka. Tatanka. Like
you said. Like you said. Tatanka. He was kicking
bird and dances with holes. Tatanka. Tatanka.
Tatanka. Tatanka. Tatanka. Tatanka. Buffalo.
He kind of looks like Steve Perry a little bit,
doesn't he? Not at all. Scroll down a little
bit. You should have been gone. I mean, come
on. There's some resemblance there. Maybe the
hair. That's about it. Maybe with a really bad
sunburn. Tatanka. Buffalo. That's a more recent
picture. He's in everything. Buffalo. He died
of old age, 73. That sucks. Or natural causes,
I should say, not old age. So what are natural
causes? Heart failure? Heart failure. I mean,
is that natural causes? Yeah. Yeah, you just
know just heart gives out. Sure. So 73 and how
old are we? Shut up. Don't do that. Why do you
do that? Dude, that's two decades, man. I'm going
to win one more fantasy league, and then I'm
out. Yeah, throwing cash in and everything. I
honestly think we need to pitch in more money.
I wouldn't mind going up in the ante to $75.
Why do you want to lose more money? Is it really
losing, though? Yes. I don't know. I don't think
it's a big deal. I personally don't think it's
a big deal to throw in an extra couple bucks
just to make the payoff. A little bit more. Yeah.
Just to have fun with it. It would be fun. Well,
first off, I get my money back every year because
I always finish third. So you don't win every
year. I don't win. I get my money back. So I
basically get to play fantasy football for free.
I've had a couple years like that. I had to pay
35 this year. Yeah. I haven't paid in a while,
to be honest. I think I was in the points running,
I think, because I had a lot of points last year.
Right. But my placement was not real good. Yeah,
the last two years, I think, have been pitiful
for me. I wasn't last place, but... Pretty damn
close. That was definitely the bottom half. Yeah,
I live there sometimes. Speaking of gambling,
the Powerball is like $1 .3 billion. Is that
big enough to make us play yet? I have an office
pool. Five of us put in 50 bucks each. So I went
and bought $250 worth of Powerball tickets today.
That's crazy. They have, at the Four Seasons,
this was in the year 1998 -ish, the Four Seasons,
there's a bunch of cooks, chefs, dishwashers,
whatever, all the back of the house. Yeah. They
would buy lottery tickets, right? They'd pull
their money. They did. And they'd have like 100
people that would be in this pool. Yeah. And
they would all throw in boatloads of money. They
won twice. Really? They hit big twice. Like big?
Or just a couple hundred grand? You know what?
I don't really remember. One of them was a big
one, a million. And I don't remember what the
other one was. But the fact that they hit big
twice. That's crazy. There's something to be
said about it. I mean, those are numbers. What
are the chances of that happening? Yeah, we bought
125 tickets. How much does that really improve
your odds between buying one ticket and 100 tickets?
I don't think it does. I don't think it raises
your odds too much. I don't think it does at
all. The odds are horrible. The odds are astronomically
bad. It's like 365 million to one. Yes, it is.
But, you know, you do hear stories of an entire
office. They'll do it. That's kind of what you're
saying, Sean. They win. They win, yeah. And then
you have stories where it's one person. It's
a dick. It just runs. One person wins the whole
damn thing. And he doesn't even know until like
a week later. Right. And he was like, oh my God,
let me check this. Oh my God, I freaking won.
Sometimes these lottery tickets go unclaimed.
They do. They don't know they won. And then it
goes away. Was it like stat? You know what? Chuck,
look that up for me. What is the biggest payout
that no one, that somebody - Statute of limitation?
Yeah, that somebody didn't claim. And then where
does that money go? It goes away. It goes right
back into the system. So it doesn't go, it's
not forwarded to the next winner? No. So it gets
absorbed into... Well, that money goes to the
schools, right? The largest unclaimed Powerball
jackpot was $77 million from a ticket in Georgia
in 2011. They never came forward. And it expired
after the 180 -day deadline. I thought it was
higher than that. I thought it was way higher
than that. But think about that. Somebody just...
Pissed away $77 million. They never know. They
did not know. They did not know. So you can't,
unless they knew it, they lost a ticket, they're
like, bah. Well, then you have that guy that
got all that, had cryptocurrency, and he's got
nine passwords. You have 10 attempts. Oh, yeah.
And it's worth like $200 and something million.
Probably more now. And you get 10 tries to remember
your password. He has done nine of them. And
he doesn't remember his password. That's going
to erase the drive. It's trapped. Yeah. It's
a baloney one. He's never going to be able to.
Oh, that would drive me nuts. He's never going
to be able to claim his. You have to try at some
point. You're like, unless he's waiting for some
kind of technology. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Is this
for real? So you said Powerball. The Mega Millions
has a one point. $3 .37 billion unclaimed from
2022. Okay, if it isn't unclaimed. So, so far,
last month, somebody has not come forward with
the $1 .337 billion. That was 2020. That was
2022. Yeah, the article was written probably
then, too. So, it's probably been claimed. Yeah,
well, yeah. It's likely been claimed. Maybe.
I don't know. Yeah, well, think about it. The
next one is $77 million. Yeah, that was the one
we talked about. Yeah, they would have said that
that one was... That was this one. Yeah. The
one we just talked about. So somebody came forward
and claimed it. $1 .3 billion. So that's a lot
of money on the table. It's still kind of iffy
where that money's all going. You guys are suggesting
it's going to school systems, et cetera, et cetera.
But where is the accounting of that? I mean,
is it just kind of like a USAID kind of accounting
program set up with that? That's a shocking amount
of money that they raise for these things, man.
Well, it says, if the Mega Millions jackpot isn't
claimed within the time, States that participated
will get back the funds they contributed to the
pot. From there, each state can use its prize
funds for its own purposes. Oh, God, that's sick.
Of course it is. That's sick. It doesn't go back
into the jackpot fund. Fix roads. Yeah. Yeah.
What are the odds on it fixing? I bet you the
odds of them fixing the potholes is less than
you winning. It goes right back into Black Rock.
Yeah. Give me a break. It's a scam. It totally
is. Well, I know Texas uses their money off the
lottery to help fund the schools, right? Yes.
Sort of. On the slide. And how many of our teachers
that we know have gotten that money? That's why
I'm kind of wondering. I don't know how it works.
It's great that it does. I hope it does. But
then how much? I mean, we don't even know where
all the taxes go. I mean, if you win a billion
dollars, you're going to get what? 500 of it?
Well, if you do the cash option, you'll get half.
But that's stupid. Well, no, then you've got
to pay taxes on the half. Well, the 1 .3 is over
20 years, and they're assuming it's growing,
right? Is that how it works? For the jackpot,
you have two options. You can have it paid to
you every year, and then you'll have the full
amount, or you can take the cash option, which
is half of that. Either way, you're going to
have to pay taxes on the money. Okay. So I wonder
how much they pay you a year or a month or a
week. Well, just do the math. $4 billion for
over 20 years. Is that 240 months? For the rest
of your life. Well, it's usually over 20 years,
isn't it? Oh, I don't know. That's what I'm wondering.
I mean, does it matter? I mean, wouldn't you?
It would seem it could be prudent to just have
them pay you in denominations like that as opposed
to having it all at the one time. I mean, because
literally you're slashing your funds in half.
And is it transferable? Like if I die, can I
put it in a will? I don't think so. I think that's
a big reason why. I would take the cash so that
way I can invest it however I want to and it's
free and clear from this bullshit and, you know,
winnings over time thing. I don't know. I don't
know. But what do they say? What do they recommend?
So it says the payouts for a single payment that
is the current cash value of the jackpot. The
immediate payment. is followed by 29 annual payments
that increase by 5 % each year. That's how you
get to the one. Lump sum versus annuity. Yeah,
so you're getting, it's growing over the 29 years.
That's how you get to the 1 .3 billion. Ask the
fancy AI, what's the smarter move? Interesting.
Is it going to be pros and cons to both of them?
Oh, yeah, I'm sure there are. I mean, you won't
be able to invest it, you know? Not like you
would. All up in cash. I wonder if you get interest
on the money while it's sitting in the bank for
you to get it. Well, the stock market's doing
better than 5%, right? So you can make 5 % on
cash. You can keep it on cash. That's probably
what it is. It's 5 % in cash. That's how much
you're making. You invest it. Your average is
around 8 % to 10 % a year, right, on the stock
market? Is that what it's been doing? Yeah, but
you lose 50 % of that. So is that worth it? No.
If you do the cash option, he's saying, yes.
You don't lose any money. He's saying if you
do the cash option, you only get 50 % of the
money. Correct. Correct. So that's losing money.
It is. No, it's not losing money. It's you're
getting the money. If you don't invest it, yes.
If you just sit it and stick it under your mattress,
yes. You're going to take that and you're going
to invest it. Try to make 8 % to 10 % instead
of making the 5 % that they're going to pay you.
Yes, but what he's saying is. You could theoretically
lose money. Yeah, you're giving up half of the
money that you could be getting. Theoretically.
Theoretically. The idea is you're actually going
to make more than that because you're going to
invest it properly and make more than the 5 %
they're going to give you. Yes. You're going
to buy like a pig farm and make so much money.
Right. Yeah, but it's free and clear. No stress.
True. No danger of your friends coming in. Not
friends, but you losing your money over bad investments.
True. There is risk. If I win tomorrow night,
I'm not telling you guys. You guys will be like
vultures. I mean, is there risk that, you know,
Chicago or that place will be solvent in 30 years?
Is that money guaranteed? Is that annuity guaranteed?
Is it federally backed up? I don't know. I would
personally want it right now. Yeah, I'd want
it all and I'd invest it myself. Yep, and I'd
go buy maybe a bottle of bourbon here and there.
You know what I mean? Maybe a rare character.
It depends on what the payout is. If you buy
a bottle of bourbon? No, I mean, what is the
payout? Is it annually? It's annually. Is it
annually? Annually. Annually. So, you know, I
mean, if it's $50 million in over 20 years, that
means you get at least $2 .5 million every year.
Yeah, who can live on that? Well, then you could
invest that. Right? So they've already grown
at 5%. You could say, well, I'm going to live
on this much. Bottom line, you're not going to
do poorly either way. But there's people who
go through with this and they go broke. They
think they have all the money right now, especially
when they do the 30 -year payout. They think
they have all that money right now, and then
they end up overextending, and they don't go
bankrupt, but they have to. They have to meet
with financial advisors to get them back on track.
As a matter of fact, they require these winners
of some of these lottery systems, they require
them to go to a financial management class. Right.
You'd have to. Yeah, because people go crazy.
They get stupid. They do. They go out and buy
rare characters. Because these people will come
out and... They'll make you invest in this, make
you invest in that. Yes, and they just start
giving away money to everybody, which is not
a horrible thing to do. It's good to be charitable.
All right, we're going to jump on this whiskey.
What whiskey? Yeah, we are drinking one. We've
had this one for a while. This is one. I don't
remember what we felt last time. This is Old
Elk Four Grain Straight Bourbon. I think it's
105 something proof. It is 105. It says 105 .9.
Age 6 to 7 years. It's got the mash bill, which
is odd. It's 51 corn, which barely meets. 22
.5 wheat, 19 barley, and 7 .5 rye. Dark. Wow.
This is interesting. The four grain, they got
51 % corn, which is That's the minimum to qualify
it as bourbon, right? I'm a fan of that. I like
whiskeys like this. I like bourbons like this.
And they got to divvy it up pretty good. So technically
it's a four grain, but it does lean towards the
wheat. You know, 22 and a half versus 19. But
you know what? I'm picking up a lot of, as little
corn as it is, I'm picking up a lot of sweetness
in it, personally. I'm panicking a little bit.
Why? I reached over to grab that bottle. Good
Lord, Paul. I'm sorry. It got all over me. I
reek of four grain right now. Where? Is it on
your taint or something? No, it's in my stomach.
All in you. Oh, that's what I meant. It's all
in me. Got a dove? No, you already had a pour
out there. I saw you take a second pour. You
were full. This is equity. We have to have equity
in this podcast. Sean chugged his. What are you
chugging yours for? He chugged his. I know that.
I got a fantastic taste. Oh, you did it for the
sake of the podcast? Oh, yeah. Dude, when I did
that, I was able to taste it. Really? Stone fruit?
Let me guess. A nice? Oh, man. Okay, what the
hell is a nice? It's like a licorice. It's like
a licorice kind of flavor. Do you want me to
say licorice instead? Yes, I would prefer that.
Okay, black licorice. Yeah, you can say whatever
you want. This is a free podcast. Well, I mean,
it tastes like cashew apples. Kind of astringent.
Astringent. It's very astringent. Yes. That's
a great word, by the way. Astringent. I'm going
to use that. I like this. Like I said, it's very
easy. It's very good. It's very easy to drink.
Even my wife was like, for 105 proof, it's very
easy to drink. Is that right? This MSRP was 100
bucks on that. I don't think we didn't pay that
much for it. That's probably around 80 bucks.
92. We played 90, 98. It's 105 now. Well, this
company who owns Old Elk, I think I read that
they just filed for bankruptcy. Oh, that's too
bad. Yes. This is MGP, by the way. Yes, it is.
It's very, very good. It is. It's tasty. They
have a lot. They have a lot, not a lot, but they
have several different, like this four grain,
then they'll have the standard bourbon. They'll
have a weeded. So they have several. I think
this may be our only one, our only Old Elk. I
would absolutely buy this again. So AI just said,
no, the company that makes Old Elk whiskey is
not going bankrupt. But I don't believe it. I
mean, you never know. Old Elk Distillery was
acquired by, oh, maybe they were sold. Oh, maybe
that's what happened. Yeah, they were sold. They
were acquired by Middle West Spirits. That's
right. Yeah, Middle West Spirit bought them.
They're out of Ohio. You're probably right. They
probably were going bankrupt, and they were rescued.
Yeah. You know, you just made me think of something.
We'll get back to the bourbon. I just want to
tell a quick story. You said, who knows what
to believe with AI? Yeah. Today, so I installed
Copilot. We had to get a special license from
the company. You had to go to training to know
how to use Copilot. I used Copilot in Outlook
for the first time today, and I was looking for
an SOW. Right. Statement of work. Right. I didn't
want to dig through all my emails. I was like,
I'm looking for this SOW, you know, from from
this software. Find it for me. And it it said
it did. And I said, well, give me the actual
SOW. You're telling me the summary of it and
stuff. And so it went off and did it. And it
came back with a company I'd never heard of people.
I have no idea who they are. And I'm like, what
the hell is this? So did it search other people's
outlook? I don't know. I still don't know. It
was, like I said, a company I'd never heard of
for a product. I have no idea what it's talking
about. People that are not in the company directory,
I think it just made up shit. I think it wanted
me to. I was like, make up a fictional SOW for
me and call it something. That's crazy. That's
Copilot. What the hell, man? So I have that icon.
Copilot is Microsoft. Yeah, it's basically ChatGPT
tied to Microsoft Outlook. Yeah, I've got it,
but I've never used it. Dude, and I had my...
That's kind of scary. I called my coworker over
and I was like, can you decipher what I'm looking
at here? And she goes, what is this? I go...
I don't know. Was it an actual SOW? Everything
like a contract? I could have clicked on it,
but I didn't want to. Right. Because it was something
I'd never even seen before. Right. It creeped
me up. Did it ruin your whole life? I wish you
had never told me about it. You ruined my life.
Jesus. My poor dad. Well, I just hit co -pilot
right now and I said, give me some top three
news stories from today. And it spits out the
U .S. court rules. Trump's tariffs were unlawful.
Oh, shit. We haven't even talked about that.
Humanitarian crisis in Gaza, Sudan, and Afghanistan.
And the other one is the political and legal
turmoil in the U .S. But this was in context
to me asking you to find something in my email
inbox. This is the first time I've ever used
it, so that was kind of cool. I kind of like
that. All right, let's rate this thing. Old elk,
four grain. I think it's wonderful. Now, remember,
105 proof. Do we have to keep that in context?
I'll go first. I'll say this is a seven. 8, 7,
8, 7, 8, 7, 8, 7, 8. That's a smidge high for
me. I was thinking around 7, 2 for this for me.
I am going, what's exactly the middle between
you guys? That might be too high. You know what?
I'm referring to the Mictors tenure and how sweet
and awesome that was at 90 proof. You can't change
it once it's recorded on the podcast. You're
locked in. It's like the fantasy football rules.
Once you start the draft, you're done. Correct.
Can't make rules. By the way, you know what?
I agreed with that, actually. Why did you go
silent? No, I didn't. I told him I didn't remember
voting on it. And then I remembered later, I
was like, that was an email vote. It wasn't an
impersonal vote. You know how when you're trying
to recall something and you're picturing how
it would have happened? I was like, we did not
sit around a table in person and vote on this.
I know we didn't. We didn't. It was through email.
And so that's why I didn't remember. You should
ask Copal to go find that email. Good luck with
that. Anyway, I didn't go silent. But what I
agreed with the other people on? Once you start
drafting, and I call a little bit of bullshit
on what they were saying. They were like, you
can't change it now. We'll change my whole philosophy.
I started drafting with the quarterbacks being
four instead of six. I would have changed my
whole strategy. And I'm like, that could be legit.
Once you start drafting, you can't change that.
Oh, that's fine. That's fine. But I don't want
that. Look, I want to revisit it. I don't want
this thing that can't kick down the road. not
addressing this again. I don't really care that
much. The part I cared about was I don't remember
having a vote. It was through email. I'm almost
positive. Yeah. Well, again, I don't remember
doing it. So, you know, it'd be kind of cool
if Barry could like shove it in my face and be
like, here's the email, Sean. Oh, yeah. Here's
your response. You go, bitch. And you voted for
it. Yeah. That would be funny. I actually could
ask at chat GPT right now. Well, anyways, to
get four points or to get six points for a quarterback
in fantasy football, I mean, is it that big of
a deal? Well, it might be for some people. With
a 12 -man roster, not a roster, but a 12 -man
team, as far as teams in your fantasy football
league, the talent is thin. So it may deem itself
worthy. But for the people that do have a good
quarterback, I don't know. I don't know, but
I would personally like to get six points. Well,
I tell you, the players go fast with 12 people,
especially because, like you said, when you go
up and then down, I was seven, so I'd go up.
You know, that's kind of in the middle, so I
didn't have to wait like you did. Yeah, 20 frickin'
21 turns. Granted, I get two in a row, which
was kind of cool, but, you know, there's a lot
of talent in the middle. I think for the placement
where I was at, I think I did pretty good. I
think I got two top -notch tight ends. I got
the, you know, whatever. I don't feel confident
on my team this year. Well, I asked Copilot.
I said, find the emails about us voting on a
QB scoring change for fantasy football. And it
said it did not find anything. And I said, are
you sure? Six points versus four points for touchdowns.
I double -checked your emails and found nothing.
There you go. Dude, I know Barry. He would not
unilaterally make a scoring change. I get it.
I'm not, but, you know. I think we were all roofied
when we did the vote. I don't think that's what
it is. I think maybe, maybe only eight of the
people chimed in, and so he took a poll of the
eight people. And that was it. Boom, boom. All
right, well, it's fantasy football. It's Barry.
I'll call him No Bedside Barry. You know, No
Bedside Man is Barry. I like Barry, but he is
so astringent. He's a stubborn dude. I'll use
the word astringent because he is. He's very
astringent. He does not tolerate people being
stupid. If he perceives you as saying something
that just doesn't match what's going on, you're
just out. Shut up. Move on. Shut the fuck up.
Get out of this meeting. You've just been kicked
off the team's meeting. And I think I'm going
to fire you. A little bit. A little bit of that.
Well, this is obviously the second half of the
podcast. You guys got anything else you want
to add? No, I'm done. I think we're good. We're
all voted here. What is your final vote? Oh,
yeah, Paul didn't vote. No, I said in the middle.
So, 7 -5. 7 -5. Good stuff. I'd recommend it.
Old Elk. Awesome. Four grain, under $100. God
bless it. And they're with Westside Spirits now.
Very good. All right. September 2nd, second half
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