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You're good. Do we need to turn the lights down

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to maybe 25 % or something? Usually 50%. 50 %?

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Yeah. Let's get a little mood lighting going

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on. All right. Were these lights up here last

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time? I don't remember. It's been a while. No,

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I don't think they were. I don't think they were

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at all. All right. Well, I'm waiting to get in

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the zone here with the lights. It's giving me

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that warm, fuzzy feeling. All right, well, look,

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it's the, God bless, it's the first week of September.

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We are. It's actually Labor Day yesterday. Yes,

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it was. We had a pretty fun, oh, look at that.

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I did that immediately, and Chris started, like,

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getting closer to me. Yeah, I saw that. I feel

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so much more comfortable. I saw that. Yeah. He's

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like, give me a little pull on the mic here.

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Just a little pull? Yeah, there you go. Okay.

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There you go. All right. Well, it's the first

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week of September. It's a Tuesday podcast, and

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we have a special guest. She's been here before,

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and she brought her husband this time, so I think

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she needed protection, right? Maybe. We were

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a little overbearing, maybe. I don't know. This

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is the first couple guests we've ever had. Oh,

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that's true. Hey. You guys are breaking new barriers

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for us. Thank you for that. Yeah. All right,

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because if you enter that in wrong, you could

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be knee deep in something nefarious you don't

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want to be. Well, dudeslikeus, I'm Sean. I'm

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Paul. I am Jeff. I'm Heather. I'm Chris. All

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right. And it's the first half. This one's kind

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of different. We are introducing, last time Heather

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was on here, we had a great time. It ended up

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in kind of a, I don't know if it was a train

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wreck. I was a train wreck, but it was a lot

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of fun. You brought what, three bottles and then

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a bottle of Vixen, right? Yes, yeah. So we had

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three bottles on top of the Vixen. Wow. And I

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think we sampled the - Bourbon, yeah. We sampled

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the Infinity bottle. Oh, God. But we also aren't

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used to having a lot of samples of wine, and

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our bodies weren't accustomed to that. So, yeah,

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it kind of caught us off guard, I think. It caught

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me off guard. But it was great. That's why I

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brought Chris, so he could carry you home if

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we needed to. There we go. Good. I hope you've

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been working out. I have been. Just for that.

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Just for that. Throw me on your shoulder. All

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right. Well, Heather, bring us in with your experience

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here. You were here last time. You brought the

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bottles. You did a lot of research and a lot

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of prep and touched maybe 10 % of what we really

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wanted to talk about. This time, what is your

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goal here today? So really, honestly, we're going

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to talk a little bit about Napa and the wine

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styles of Napa and kind of like the fads that

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they're going through right now. And that's kind

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of just left it open. There are so many segues

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that we can take or maybe a train or a bus, you

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know, whatever. Sure. Well, I want to talk to

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you about one of the wines we had last time,

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Amici. My wife and a couple of other friends

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went to their class at Total Wine. And we were

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talking to, I can't remember the gentleman's

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name. He had an odd name. But he was given the

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class. And he was one of the, I guess he's fairly

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high up. I don't know. But he said that if we

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wanted to do a tour, we'd have to give him a

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call and stuff like that. Was it John Harris?

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No. It was Cy. Cy, yes. And he was awesome. He

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was great. No, that says CEO, not site. So you

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said a tour of Amici? Amici, yeah, because I

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think you even mentioned that, that it's a private

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vineyard. And my son and his fiancée are getting

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married out there in Napa Valley next June. Jeez,

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time is flying. It is flying. And I think we're

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going to try to reach out to him because he gave

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us a business card to see if we can actually

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do that. Yeah, and I can also hook you up with

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him because I can let him know that y 'all know

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me. They'll give you VIP service. Outstanding.

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Nice. And we're giving him a shout out right

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here. Right here on the podcast. There you go.

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And that was an excellent wine, by the way. It

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was really good. I've got a funny story about

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their wine. So we had our crawfish boil. I think

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I invited y 'all and y 'all didn't come because

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y 'all don't like me, but it's okay. Was that

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the one that was just happened? I don't know.

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No, it wasn't your birthday. No, I invited. Yeah.

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And then you were like, I'm going to go to the

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hospital instead. I'm like, you do not know how

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to party. No, we had a crawfish boil. And I think,

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yeah, that's when one of my coworkers came over

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and I was like, hey, just go grab something out

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of the wine fridge. And I didn't give him parameters,

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which, you know, when you have a wine cellar

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like ours, you should probably throw some parameters

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on there. But he's in the business. I'm like,

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sure. He's another wine manager at a three -lettered

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store that I work at, not a four -letter store.

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And so he goes and he grabs a bottle and it is

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a Cab Franc, Tocalone, Amici, single vineyard

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and impossible to get. Oh, no. And as he walks

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by, Chris is like, you better pour me a glass.

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And I didn't know that because I'm outside entertaining

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and having a great time. And he pours the glasses

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for everybody that hands me the bottle. And I'm

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like, oh. Yeah, the damage is already done. It

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is already. You can't get the bottle again. I

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was like, sigh, sigh. Can I get more? Yeah. And

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then my husband's like, I didn't get a glass.

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And I was like, fudge again. So you two didn't

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get a glass. Everyone else did not get a glass.

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Well, it goes quick when you're having a party,

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right? How many glasses come? There are like

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eight people out there. So eight people. How

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many come out of a bottle? Generally speaking,

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five to six glasses. Eight was a stretch, but

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my husband got zero of the eight. I evenly dispersed

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six glasses from this bottle. You did a great

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job. We met Kim at the Total Wine. Kim had a

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bottle of Amici in front of her, and we were

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kind of boasting a little bit. Oh, we had Heather

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Liner talking about Amici. She was like, oh,

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I know Heather. Me and Kim are really good friends.

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The people at Amici are amazing, and so I always

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try to promote them. because they're just really,

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they're great people. So, yeah. They have great

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product too. Yeah. I, um, I got, uh, some more

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certifications since the last time I talked to

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y 'all. So, um, well, when we run a party hard,

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we, uh, spend about $6 ,000 and pay for a certification.

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Woo. So I have now W set level two and I got,

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I, I grad, I passed with distinction, which not

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everybody does. And I had to get reimbursed or

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funded from your three letter store. If, if I

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tried to get them to pay for it. Yes. But, um,

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And they don't operate in the speed that I go

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at. So I've already signed up for the three.

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So it might be on next year's budget. I made

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an appointment to ask to get the money for the

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level three, but the appointment hasn't happened

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yet. And I went ahead and signed up, but we'll

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see. Maybe the appointment will happen before

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I graduate from the level three. Well, that's

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exciting. So let's just, you know, just talking

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about your career path. where you are, what happens

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if you decide to step it up? Is where you're

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at still a great place to be? So there's lots

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of choices. So I'm in school for knowledge and

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vitification. So fancy talk for making some wine.

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And we are making our first batch of wine next

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year. My husband has volunteered himself to help

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me make the wine. His name is not going on the

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bottle. Are you going to be the official grape

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stomper? He will be my cellar rat. That's what

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he'll be. That's what they call him. He's going

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to be the clog soaker. That's cool, though. No,

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he's going to help me make it. So I had talked,

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I think, about Morisoli a little bit when I was

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on last. But Morisoli. is a vineyard person.

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He owns a vineyard. His family goes way back

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into Napa. They're like the best vineyard in

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Rutherford for that Rutherford dust. And Chris

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Morrisoli, just salt of the earth. He's a volunteer

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fireman, and he's also a fighter jet pilot. Helicopter

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pilot. Helicopter. They look the same. Chris,

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if you're listening, I'm so sorry. I can't tell

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the difference between large vehicles. And so

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he does that. And apparently he's Napa Valley's

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most eligible bachelor. I'm married, so I'm good.

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But no, he's a great guy and he's going to let

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me buy his grapes. So next year I'm going to

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fly to. Paso and spend some time in Paso, then

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I'm going to fly over to Napa and then drive

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a refrigerated truck back full of grapes. Because

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I told him I was going to make a five -gallon

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barrel of wine, and he said, no, you're not.

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Go big or go home. He said, you're making a full

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barrel. I was like, yes, sir. So full barrel

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of wine coming in 2028. How many pounds of grapes

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does that take? I don't know. Apparently a whole

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truckload. Is it more than a bushel? It's definitely

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more than a bushel. There's going to be these

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giant grape buckets because he's like, yeah,

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you're going to get my grapes. And I was like,

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oh, we're going to need those. Is it enough to

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fit in a garage? It's going to be. So chances

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are, I think, I don't know how many. So when

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you're doing this, and so I helped out with Amici.

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I did this in a larger format. They weren't making

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a barrel, right? They were making many. So I

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don't know how many of the grapes were winning

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per barrel. Mr. Producer just put up 1 ,000 pounds

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of grapes to make one barrel of wine. Holy shnikey.

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60 -gallon wine. Yeah, so you're prepped for

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this. Where are these grapes going, and how do

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you store them, and how long will they keep?

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How do you press them? So I've got two different

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wineries that I can try to work something out

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with. So to be determined, but I am going to

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contact y 'all's friends who makes bourbon, but

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also, do you remember, their son makes wine.

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Correct. So I'm going to see if maybe they'll

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rent their... Is that the 1845? Correct, 1845,

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yes. Shout out to them. Yay, hi. So I'm going

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to talk to them. I can also talk to, there's

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a winery in Salina, Eden Hill. I'm going to talk

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to them as well. We're going to see who will

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negotiate a good price for me because I'm not

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going to sell the wine. It's going to be for

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practices. So you'll be essentially kind of,

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I don't know, is it kind of like the blendery?

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Or is it more like rare character? No, she's

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making her own stuff. She's making her own stuff.

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From start to finish. From scratch. So you're

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like Rebecca Creek. Sure. With someone else's

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distillate. Well, no, she's going to make her

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own. So she's buying the grains. But you're not

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growing the grapes, right? I am not growing the

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grapes. I am buying the grapes. I do not have

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time to start a vineyard. So there's that. Put

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that on your list, Chris. Oh, it is. It's on

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the list. Yeah. And as far as like where we'll

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take this, I don't know. I mean, I love my three

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-letter grocery store and being the beer and

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wine manager there. And we definitely, our store

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and DFW, we have, we're in McKinney and we have

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created probably the, we're growing as like one

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of the top high -end wine stores for them because

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of the clientele that I bring in with my knowledge.

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And that's not to sound braggy. It's just like

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people like to talk to people that know stuff.

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Yes. And so anyways, so we're doing pretty good.

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But I just don't know, other than being a wine

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buyer for that company, I don't know. that I

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don't want to be a regional manager where I'm

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helping other people. I like working with the

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customer. I like telling people about wine and

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helping them learn about wine. So I just don't

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see myself growing in that way. So the only other

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way would be wine buyer. And if that doesn't

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work out, it's cool. We'll just buy a vineyard

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like in Spain. Or Portugal. Very nice. You know

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what's super exciting about... Chris, do you

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need a piece of paper? Yeah, you got a lot to

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write down here. We talk about it all the time.

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We can also send you the recording of the podcast.

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It'll be out there forever. But you know, the

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exciting thing about this opportunity with the

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grapes is it's a kind of... I don't want to say

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it's no pressure, but it's a low pressure...

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situation like you said you're you're not on

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the hook for making any money on this there's

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nobody expecting you to make money on this that

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they get a cut of right this is that that might

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actually be better but no you see what i'm saying

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it's kind of like a low pressure hobby type but

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you know taking it seriously of course right

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right yeah but uh again yeah you've been gifted

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gifted the grapes i am buying the grapes you're

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buying okay all right so there is so there is

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a little bit of pressure there's yeah and the

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i've got a i've got a purchase the truck, well,

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rent the truck that's refrigerated and the bins

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that the grapes go in, that one's going to be

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challenging because I have to rent them. But

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how do I get them back to them after I've driven

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them across the country? Chris will drive them

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back. We've got some logistic work to do. And

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I've got to get a winery that'll agree to letting

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me do this. And then there's a lot of work that

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goes in daily with your wine. And it's not a

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lot of like just sitting in a tank like people

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think. So I'm going to have to also see if I

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can work out a rotating schedule. where i'm not

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there every day and if i am then it's definitely

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i'm gonna selena eden hill please help so what

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is the what is the the mature uh the what's the

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maturation timeline to to get this not just the

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timeline to get it but from they're putting the

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barrels yeah i mean what are we looking at five

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years ten years no so we're gonna go next year

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for next harvest and buy the grapes next harvest

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so that's next year and then it will be ready

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to drink by 2028 That's pretty quick. Two year

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life cycle. I think two years in the barrel and

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then we'll go through the bottling process. Two,

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two and a half years. There's no way to monetize

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that? There's no way to sell this? You have to

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have a license to sell it. Or have the winery

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sell it on your behalf or something like that?

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Probably, but I mean, honestly, that would be

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probably more work than it's worth. And also,

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I'm using Napa grapes and I'm making it in Texas.

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And I refuse to call it a Texas wine. There's

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a lot of wineries out there in Texas that do

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that and they use other people's grapes. And

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I'm like... That's not Texas wine. I'm making

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a California wine. It just happens to be made

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in Texas. But I can't put California on it. So

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I think I'm just going to do a bottle party and

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maybe some hopes and dreams and prayers. I don't

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know. We'll see. And call it Texafornia. So you're

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going to have some wines that people are like,

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wow, this is a... I mean, how old can a wine

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get? 20, 30, 50, 100 years? Well, we just drank

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a wine when we were in Germany that was a 1979

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Wurztraminer. The oldest bottle of wine, I want

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to say, is from, gosh, I think it's from 1700,

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if I remember correctly. They can last a long

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time. Yeah. I don't know that I want to drink

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that bottle. I was going to say, do they know

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it's still good? Like it won't kill you or it

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won't taste good? It tastes like vinegar maybe?

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I think it depends. I mean, that bottle's in

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Europe. So it's been kept in like a cold cellar

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and like cellars there are like damp and dark

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and cool. But I really feel like most wines,

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they're ready to drink in five to 50 years to

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sum it up. That's interesting. So what is about

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yours? Mine's going to be drunk immediately because

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we're just going to invite a bunch of friends

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over, and then it'll be just a party. That'll

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be so fun. Yeah, y 'all will decline because

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you'll be doing something else that's more fun,

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like the hospital. We talked about this when

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this was going on, when you invited us. There's

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stuff going on all the time, but we want to encourage

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you to continue to invite us because we do want

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to show up. Oh, no, I know. We'd love to get

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with you guys and have fun because we're wild

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and crazy kind of guys. No, we like to get out

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there. and do stuff. We're fun. We like to have

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fun with each other. Sometimes the timing doesn't

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work out or some of us have to go to the hospital

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or something stupid like that. I'm highly allergic

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to crawfish. Really? No. I was going to say it's

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always a potluck. I don't like them though. Yeah,

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it's a potluck because I won't eat them. He knows

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I haven't tried them. He knows. You asked that

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question because you know I haven't tried them.

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Nasty. I'll eat them. Nasty. They're a challenge.

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I like them. You got to eat like a thousand of

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them. That's a community event. You can stand

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around a table and you sit there and you suck

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on them. I need to stop being a five -year -old.

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You lost me at suck on them. Please do another

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one and I promise I'll be there. I won't be a

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five -year -old. We'll probably have other parties

00:16:41.070 --> 00:16:42.970
that are more fun than that. But no, it's a potluck.

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So there's a lot of really good food. And my

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world infamous seven -layer dip that nobody knows

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about except for my family and friends is going

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to be there. And it's fantastic. Seven -layer

00:16:52.230 --> 00:16:53.970
dip sounds great. And Chris, what do you bring

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to the table? I'm the one that makes the crawfish.

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Oh, there you go. I'm the Cajun. Are you really?

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Yeah. Oh, very nice. What's your background?

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Cajun? Born and raised just outside of New Orleans.

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Most of my family still lives down there minus

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my parents and my... My siblings, we live up

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here in Dallas. So do you have a real thick Cajun

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accent before you moved up here? I did not, actually.

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A lot of people, when we first moved up here,

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thought I was from the Bronx. Really? Yeah, I

00:17:20.569 --> 00:17:23.730
guess because I had a bad lisp, and so there

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was a combination of a little bit of Cajun in

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that, and people were like, are y 'all from the

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Bronx? And my mom's like, no, we're from Louisiana.

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Yeah, it couldn't be further from what it actually

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is, right? Right, right. Crazy. So is that a

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bad lisp? I don't think that's the reason. I'm

00:17:41.059 --> 00:17:42.680
just telling you that's what it was. It took

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me a long time to get my language right. And

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then I was only here four years, joined the Army,

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was stationed in Seattle four years. I don't

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know. Something happened where there's just...

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If you talk to my dad, you'll hear... It's just

00:17:54.019 --> 00:17:56.759
his dad. It's not his mom. His dad has it. And

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when we went to Baton Rouge to drive to rescue

00:17:59.440 --> 00:18:01.519
my cat, I've told you all about her, my $25 ,000

00:18:01.519 --> 00:18:05.140
rescue cat. And we drove... She's now on my debit

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card. I love her so much. Anyways, when we drove...

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She's still alive? Yes. I hope so. It's my ROI.

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Minus her eight teats and eight mammary glands.

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They've all been removed. She's going to the

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cryo after this. I'm going to have this damn

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cat bronzed. no, she's never dying. Okay. So

00:18:20.440 --> 00:18:22.740
anyways, we drive there and I get back and I

00:18:22.740 --> 00:18:25.119
tell his dad, I'm like, everybody in Baton Rouge

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sounds just like you. And he's like, what educated?

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And I was like, Sure. That's what I was going

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to say. Does it sound like the coach from Adam

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Sandler's Waterboy? It's hard to describe. It's

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not quite that bad, but there's a draw to it.

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But it's not a normal draw. It's a very weird

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one. Sorry if you're from Baton Rouge, but you

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know if you know. But that is also the only place

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I've had my credit card information stolen. So

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there you go. So are they pretty hardcore out

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there, like eating gator? Oh, 100%. So they're

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like authentic Cajuns. Yeah. Gator, you know,

00:19:00.680 --> 00:19:03.640
you got frog legs, so that's a big one. I had

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to tell Heather what gig and frogs really meant.

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That is the saddest story ever. Of what? Frog

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legs? Gig and frogs. There's a song that says

00:19:13.660 --> 00:19:15.420
gig and frogs. I had to tell her what gig and

00:19:15.420 --> 00:19:17.380
frogs actually meant. Okay, what is it? Save

00:19:17.380 --> 00:19:21.099
a horse, ride a cowboy? A gig and a frog, you're

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cutting the legs out. While they're alive. You

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grab them, and you have a little tool, and you

00:19:24.920 --> 00:19:27.180
just gig them. You cut their legs off like that,

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and then the legs go in a little pouch, and then

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the frog lays there and just dies. It becomes

00:19:32.660 --> 00:19:36.059
owl food. It becomes food. It's very sad. They

00:19:36.059 --> 00:19:37.759
call it gig and frog. So you have a pouch. Is

00:19:37.759 --> 00:19:39.480
it like a little satchel? Yeah, like a little

00:19:39.480 --> 00:19:42.599
satchel. With open wounds. With open wounds,

00:19:42.599 --> 00:19:47.259
yeah. Oozing. What would constitute a... good

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meal like how many legs would you have to consume

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it would be quite a few yeah it would be quite

00:19:52.180 --> 00:19:54.299
a few have you ever had frog legs yeah i've had

00:19:54.299 --> 00:19:56.759
a couple times i actually had one within the

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last six months i ordered them just because you

00:19:58.799 --> 00:20:00.660
know what i know i don't have them they're really

00:20:00.660 --> 00:20:02.720
good but i you know and look i'm gonna bring

00:20:02.720 --> 00:20:04.700
up something you guys don't like but it also

00:20:04.700 --> 00:20:06.740
has something to do with the oil that you you

00:20:06.740 --> 00:20:09.880
boil them in or fry them in right a hundred percent

00:20:09.880 --> 00:20:11.839
yeah so i don't know every time i've had them

00:20:11.839 --> 00:20:13.980
the oil was it they tasted they didn't taste

00:20:13.980 --> 00:20:18.980
great all the um breaded And you were expecting...

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Well, I mean, the meat itself is... I'm going

00:20:22.119 --> 00:20:23.940
to use the word gamey. Okay. You know, it's because

00:20:23.940 --> 00:20:26.299
gamey, it's kind of... It's lean, it's bitter,

00:20:26.500 --> 00:20:28.759
you know, and I'm not against that, but it's

00:20:28.759 --> 00:20:30.920
just all that breaded stuff on top of it was

00:20:30.920 --> 00:20:33.039
saturated with stuff that just didn't taste good.

00:20:33.359 --> 00:20:35.640
Yeah. Interesting. Sounds terrible. So how is

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it normally prepared? Is it... Everything's breaded

00:20:38.140 --> 00:20:40.319
down there. I was going to say, it's all breaded.

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You ever saute them? No. No. Is it like bubblegum

00:20:43.680 --> 00:20:45.660
shrimp where you can make 15 ,000 different versions

00:20:45.660 --> 00:20:48.059
of it? They're usually just everything is pretty

00:20:48.059 --> 00:20:49.779
much breaded down there. And deep fried. Deep

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fried. Literally the words I said to you when

00:20:51.420 --> 00:20:53.000
we went down there is like, why is everything

00:20:53.000 --> 00:20:56.119
battered and deep fried? Because it makes it

00:20:56.119 --> 00:20:57.960
taste great. Because it's all reptiles we're

00:20:57.960 --> 00:21:00.460
eating. Right. It's to keep you thinking about

00:21:00.460 --> 00:21:02.119
what you're eating. Because otherwise you won't

00:21:02.119 --> 00:21:04.740
eat it. Yeah. To be fair, you know, I don't know

00:21:04.740 --> 00:21:06.240
if y 'all know this, but Louisiana is trying

00:21:06.240 --> 00:21:08.619
to kill everybody in the United States. So I

00:21:08.619 --> 00:21:11.140
don't know if y 'all read the article, but they

00:21:11.140 --> 00:21:13.009
can't get it right. their oysters are killing

00:21:13.009 --> 00:21:15.730
people. For real? Which is sad. Yes, they've

00:21:15.730 --> 00:21:17.769
killed two people. And like, I don't know, 57

00:21:17.769 --> 00:21:19.930
people or something have been hospitalized. And

00:21:19.930 --> 00:21:22.970
listen, I love me some raw oyster. But if you're

00:21:22.970 --> 00:21:24.730
going to try to kill me, Florida, not Florida,

00:21:24.849 --> 00:21:26.470
Louisiana, I'm going to have to. I mean, you

00:21:26.470 --> 00:21:28.890
might as well say Florida. So what's the story?

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They're harvesting them? They're preparing them

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incorrectly? No, they're prepared. So they get

00:21:33.670 --> 00:21:37.089
them in brackish water, which is as good as it

00:21:37.089 --> 00:21:39.849
sounds. And so that's where the flesh eating.

00:21:40.689 --> 00:21:43.809
Amoeba? Amoeba. Oh, yeah. Flash -eating bacteria.

00:21:44.190 --> 00:21:46.130
There you go. Yeah, flash. Oh, yeah, them. Those.

00:21:46.210 --> 00:21:48.630
Those things right there. They like to eat you

00:21:48.630 --> 00:21:50.849
from the inside out. But they're doing something.

00:21:50.849 --> 00:21:53.829
They must be doing something wrong. Oyster is

00:21:53.829 --> 00:21:57.410
a filter, right? So it's in the brackish water

00:21:57.410 --> 00:22:00.769
is saltwater and freshwater mixed. And they're

00:22:00.769 --> 00:22:03.269
not supposed to be harvesting them from there?

00:22:03.430 --> 00:22:05.490
Well, that's just where they are. Bacteria is

00:22:05.490 --> 00:22:07.769
in the freshwater. So I think it's the freshwater.

00:22:07.809 --> 00:22:09.819
So when it's. The oysters that are filtered on

00:22:09.819 --> 00:22:11.740
that shit, all those bacteria stay inside the

00:22:11.740 --> 00:22:14.200
oyster. Yeah, I get it. So when you eat it. No,

00:22:14.240 --> 00:22:15.859
I totally get that. But, I mean, are they being

00:22:15.859 --> 00:22:18.640
criticized for taking the oysters from there

00:22:18.640 --> 00:22:20.880
instead of somewhere else in their coastline?

00:22:21.000 --> 00:22:22.220
No, no. That's where they're supposed to be taken

00:22:22.220 --> 00:22:23.640
from. I'm just mad that they're trying to kill

00:22:23.640 --> 00:22:27.059
me. Okay. Yeah. Okay. Well, there's a rule. You're

00:22:27.059 --> 00:22:28.640
not supposed to eat oysters if there's an R.

00:22:29.390 --> 00:22:30.450
In the month or something like that? No, you

00:22:30.450 --> 00:22:32.970
only eat them when there's an R. Yeah, with hearts.

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Is that what it is? With hearts, yeah. But I

00:22:34.589 --> 00:22:38.309
think you should not do it towards the end of

00:22:38.309 --> 00:22:40.109
the summer like people are doing when they're

00:22:40.109 --> 00:22:42.190
not supposed to because there's no R in August.

00:22:42.720 --> 00:22:44.920
Can't they bread them and deep fry them? That's

00:22:44.920 --> 00:22:47.059
exactly the problem. They're not deep frying

00:22:47.059 --> 00:22:49.140
them or they wouldn't be sick at all. There are

00:22:49.140 --> 00:22:51.700
fried oysters. In fact, we had some canned oysters.

00:22:51.940 --> 00:22:54.440
Remember that? I never ate them. You didn't eat

00:22:54.440 --> 00:22:56.640
them? I have never had an oyster in my life.

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How do you know they're not good? I didn't say

00:22:58.799 --> 00:23:01.619
they weren't good. I just know now that I don't

00:23:01.619 --> 00:23:02.980
eat them because Heather said they'll kill me.

00:23:03.140 --> 00:23:05.740
Thank you. Only raw ones. It doesn't matter.

00:23:05.859 --> 00:23:08.980
You still validate it. I will eat two or three

00:23:08.980 --> 00:23:12.410
dozen of that. I've had raw oysters. This kind

00:23:12.410 --> 00:23:14.390
of scares me away from eating them sometimes.

00:23:14.829 --> 00:23:17.390
Well, sushi gives you worms sometimes, so there's

00:23:17.390 --> 00:23:21.470
that. That'll send you down, though. All the

00:23:21.470 --> 00:23:24.450
models are doing it. I traveled for work to Alabama,

00:23:24.710 --> 00:23:28.829
and I did three tours there. Every time I'd go

00:23:28.829 --> 00:23:32.369
there, I'd go to Acme Seafood. I don't know if

00:23:32.369 --> 00:23:34.250
you've heard of Acme Seafood restaurant. No,

00:23:34.349 --> 00:23:36.990
I haven't heard of it. Just like Acme from Coyote

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Y. ACME. It is. They have all these. They're

00:23:42.450 --> 00:23:44.009
not fried. God bless. They bake. Baked oysters.

00:23:44.710 --> 00:23:47.509
Oysters, Rockefeller. They have just a myriad

00:23:47.509 --> 00:23:49.430
of different flavors you can have. Man, I remember

00:23:49.430 --> 00:23:51.490
Larry Cuvion. He's been on our guest a few times

00:23:51.490 --> 00:23:53.970
for the podcast. He and I sat there and ordered

00:23:53.970 --> 00:23:57.589
just endless plates. They were so good. And I

00:23:57.589 --> 00:23:59.569
know it wasn't healthy for you, but they were

00:23:59.569 --> 00:24:01.769
so freaking good because they'd come out, the

00:24:01.769 --> 00:24:05.210
plates all hot. Like butter. What is their restaurant?

00:24:05.369 --> 00:24:08.559
Papa. Is it Papa Do's? Papa Do's. They have the

00:24:08.559 --> 00:24:10.519
baked ones there that are like three different

00:24:10.519 --> 00:24:14.779
flavors that are super tasty. There you go. There

00:24:14.779 --> 00:24:18.460
it is. That's who I think of is Papa Do's. Yeah.

00:24:18.559 --> 00:24:20.319
Those plates were good. I'm telling you. They

00:24:20.319 --> 00:24:22.420
were expensive, but I didn't care. When in Rome,

00:24:22.539 --> 00:24:25.200
you got to enjoy it. And I did. There is definitely

00:24:25.200 --> 00:24:28.799
a unique, when it comes to food from Louisiana,

00:24:29.359 --> 00:24:32.039
they've got to be. known for that but but let

00:24:32.039 --> 00:24:34.019
me ask you so like when you ever go back to visit

00:24:34.019 --> 00:24:36.740
your family in in new orleans he doesn't go you

00:24:36.740 --> 00:24:40.160
you never go i i have your family the last couple

00:24:40.160 --> 00:24:42.440
of times I've been there is to go fishing on

00:24:42.440 --> 00:24:45.059
the coast with my, my dad and my brother. I haven't.

00:24:45.059 --> 00:24:46.880
And I, and my uncle came down one time. I haven't

00:24:46.880 --> 00:24:49.700
seen my family in, in that area and probably

00:24:49.700 --> 00:24:52.299
15 to 16 years, something like that. Is there

00:24:52.299 --> 00:24:54.619
a rift going on or you can't find them? Maybe

00:24:54.619 --> 00:24:56.759
you try to go find them and they're, it's, it's

00:24:56.759 --> 00:24:58.980
just, it feels like there's always something

00:24:58.980 --> 00:25:00.779
else. Like, you know, it's like, I'm going to

00:25:00.779 --> 00:25:02.279
go next year. I'm going to go, I'm going to go

00:25:02.279 --> 00:25:03.779
next year. I'm going to do it next year. And

00:25:03.779 --> 00:25:05.500
then next year comes and it's like, yeah, I'm

00:25:05.500 --> 00:25:08.079
not coming this year. And then it, and that 15,

00:25:08.539 --> 00:25:10.440
16 years later, you're like, Oh, yeah. Well,

00:25:10.480 --> 00:25:12.140
it flies by. I'm running out of time. I get that.

00:25:12.559 --> 00:25:16.339
But I was going to ask you, what's your favorite

00:25:16.339 --> 00:25:19.240
thing to do when you go back? What can you do

00:25:19.240 --> 00:25:21.140
there that you can't do anywhere else? But it

00:25:21.140 --> 00:25:24.180
sounds like fishing you can do pretty much anywhere.

00:25:24.700 --> 00:25:26.799
Yeah, we go to Kokodri when we go fishing. And

00:25:26.799 --> 00:25:28.380
one of the things I like doing there, that's

00:25:28.380 --> 00:25:30.299
where all the shrimp boats come in and out. Okay.

00:25:30.299 --> 00:25:32.960
And so you can go buy the live shrimp directly

00:25:32.960 --> 00:25:35.119
off the boat. Nice. Yeah, just give them cash

00:25:35.119 --> 00:25:37.519
and they'll... give you a ton of it so fresh

00:25:37.519 --> 00:25:39.619
as fresh can be they're still alive like you're

00:25:39.619 --> 00:25:41.519
taking them back to the cabin and boiling them

00:25:41.519 --> 00:25:43.339
right there so and you can't understand a word

00:25:43.339 --> 00:25:45.960
the guy says nice do you ever see that guy on

00:25:45.960 --> 00:25:51.019
youtube uh he actually the cagey guy frying shit

00:25:51.019 --> 00:25:53.099
up and he's drinking a beer throwing stuff behind

00:25:53.099 --> 00:25:55.220
him yeah i don't remember that guy's name but

00:25:55.220 --> 00:25:57.380
he's got the thick accent he's wherever he cooks

00:25:57.380 --> 00:25:59.450
it looks good I mean, whatever he's doing. Isn't

00:25:59.450 --> 00:26:01.089
that his recipe that you used on our shrimp last

00:26:01.089 --> 00:26:03.470
time? Yep. He's a genius when it comes to that

00:26:03.470 --> 00:26:06.329
stuff. Yeah. The shrimp I've cooked and I've

00:26:06.329 --> 00:26:08.089
always struggled with the skin sticking to the

00:26:08.089 --> 00:26:10.710
shrimp. And he finally gave me a life hack. I

00:26:10.710 --> 00:26:12.430
watched his video the other day and he said,

00:26:12.450 --> 00:26:15.230
you can't put the seasoning in. It makes it stick

00:26:15.230 --> 00:26:17.750
to the shrimp. He said, don't boil it without

00:26:17.750 --> 00:26:20.769
seasoning, just boiling water and lemon. And

00:26:20.769 --> 00:26:23.349
I did it. And voila. It was just falling. It

00:26:23.349 --> 00:26:25.460
just fell out. You season it after the fact?

00:26:25.640 --> 00:26:29.200
Yep. After you sit, you cool it down. It's maybe

00:26:29.200 --> 00:26:30.799
room temperature water, and then you add the

00:26:30.799 --> 00:26:32.480
seasoning, and then you let it sit. But at that

00:26:32.480 --> 00:26:34.119
point, the shell's already coming off of the

00:26:34.119 --> 00:26:36.460
shrimp. Great. It's amazing. I was like, this

00:26:36.460 --> 00:26:39.140
guy's a genius. That is cool. I mean, what can

00:26:39.140 --> 00:26:41.579
you not find on YouTube, right? Yeah, and I'm

00:26:41.579 --> 00:26:43.779
sure he seems like he's doing pretty well. Well,

00:26:43.779 --> 00:26:47.180
he has his seasonings, I see, in the store. So

00:26:47.180 --> 00:26:49.059
he's doing really well. I bet they sell them

00:26:49.059 --> 00:26:51.740
at a three -letter grocery store. Could be. Probably.

00:26:51.880 --> 00:26:55.839
Probably. He's fun to watch, too. He is. He's

00:26:55.839 --> 00:26:59.099
entertaining. He's got the really thick Cajun

00:26:59.099 --> 00:27:00.900
accent. Is he the one that you told us to bring

00:27:00.900 --> 00:27:02.920
up? Because we were talking about Cajun accents.

00:27:04.039 --> 00:27:06.859
This was the old guy that used to be on PBS back

00:27:06.859 --> 00:27:09.799
in the day. Oh, yeah. The old guy. Oh, a different

00:27:09.799 --> 00:27:11.940
guy. I can't remember the guy's name. He's dead

00:27:11.940 --> 00:27:18.640
now, but he had a cooking show. He was Cajun.

00:27:18.660 --> 00:27:20.819
Yeah, we were trying to mimic the Cajun accent.

00:27:20.960 --> 00:27:22.900
Justin Wilson. None of us could do it. No, it's

00:27:22.900 --> 00:27:25.079
hard to do. And then so we brought up somebody

00:27:25.079 --> 00:27:27.180
on YouTube and tried to hear what the accent

00:27:27.180 --> 00:27:29.640
is. Oh, yeah, this guy. Yeah, this guy here.

00:27:29.799 --> 00:27:32.960
Okay. Yeah, he was the Cajun cook. Or New Orleans

00:27:32.960 --> 00:27:35.599
Cajun, yeah. Yeah. Why does he look like Colonel

00:27:35.599 --> 00:27:38.119
Sanders? I don't know. Maybe it's the same guy.

00:27:38.980 --> 00:27:41.400
He's got the bow tie. He has the bow tie. Well,

00:27:41.420 --> 00:27:43.660
isn't Colonel Sanders from South? It's Kentucky.

00:27:43.920 --> 00:27:46.390
He was. It's Kentucky fried chicken, right? Is

00:27:46.390 --> 00:27:48.230
Kentucky considered south? No audio. No audio.

00:27:49.150 --> 00:27:51.430
I'm still confused that we're not south. We're

00:27:51.430 --> 00:27:53.109
considered southwest. And I'm like, but we're

00:27:53.109 --> 00:27:55.170
in the center. Is that a thing? It is a thing.

00:27:55.390 --> 00:27:57.710
We're southwest now? Yes. Yeah. I think we always

00:27:57.710 --> 00:27:59.349
were. They never consider us part of. We're like

00:27:59.349 --> 00:28:01.450
central. Yeah. We've never been part of the south.

00:28:01.490 --> 00:28:03.170
We're southwest. I've never really considered

00:28:03.170 --> 00:28:06.549
us. Southwest is Arizona, New Mexico, Nevada.

00:28:07.009 --> 00:28:08.569
Nevada, maybe? Maybe they're just looking at

00:28:08.569 --> 00:28:11.680
like El Paso. You know, we're nothing. We're

00:28:11.680 --> 00:28:14.779
Texas. We're not a South or North or whatever.

00:28:14.839 --> 00:28:16.500
We're Texas. How about that? Well, I know the

00:28:16.500 --> 00:28:20.920
company I work for, they just brought us into

00:28:20.920 --> 00:28:23.579
the West division. So we're now technically West.

00:28:24.259 --> 00:28:27.460
Well, for your company. I don't know how I feel

00:28:27.460 --> 00:28:29.359
about that. So Heather, what's your background?

00:28:30.900 --> 00:28:32.259
What's your background? Where'd you grow up?

00:28:32.509 --> 00:28:35.470
Oh, here. I'm a local girl through and through,

00:28:35.509 --> 00:28:37.529
through and through. I have, I have lived out

00:28:37.529 --> 00:28:40.589
of Texas for a year and a half of my life. And

00:28:40.589 --> 00:28:42.769
I, it was in Florida for high school. And I was

00:28:42.769 --> 00:28:45.509
like, I am getting back out of here because it's

00:28:45.509 --> 00:28:49.349
just, there's there. Texas is friendly and not

00:28:49.349 --> 00:28:52.650
quite as crazy. Sorry, Penny, as my family, my

00:28:52.650 --> 00:28:55.269
family is pretty sane, but like Floridians, they're

00:28:55.269 --> 00:28:57.170
kind of crazy. Like they're like all the people

00:28:57.170 --> 00:28:59.650
of Walmart moved to Florida. that they're still

00:28:59.650 --> 00:29:01.890
here at the park. It's all the New Jersey -ites

00:29:01.890 --> 00:29:03.789
and New York people that moved down there. I

00:29:03.789 --> 00:29:06.349
was going to say, who in Florida is from Florida

00:29:06.349 --> 00:29:08.970
now, right? Yeah. I mean, Texas is actually turning

00:29:08.970 --> 00:29:10.309
the same way, right? Yeah, you can also say they're

00:29:10.309 --> 00:29:12.630
from Texas. Yeah. I'll tell you my experience

00:29:12.630 --> 00:29:18.890
with going to Minnesota, Alabama, is those in

00:29:18.890 --> 00:29:22.730
Louisiana. Minnesota? Did I say Minnesota? Alabama.

00:29:23.349 --> 00:29:25.630
Mississippi. Mississippi, yeah. Starting with

00:29:25.630 --> 00:29:29.250
an M. I realized I was the asshole. You know,

00:29:29.289 --> 00:29:31.549
because everyone was so nice to me all the way

00:29:31.549 --> 00:29:33.950
over there. You know, every stop you had, everyone's

00:29:33.950 --> 00:29:35.750
like all nice and just people you wouldn't expect.

00:29:35.890 --> 00:29:38.190
Southern hospitality. You know, and then I was

00:29:38.190 --> 00:29:39.990
like, God. It's like Cracker Barrel. I'm the

00:29:39.990 --> 00:29:42.230
asshole. I just like started doing, you know,

00:29:42.230 --> 00:29:44.950
the people here in Dallas. I guess maybe it's

00:29:44.950 --> 00:29:47.890
the, I don't know about the experience of Florida.

00:29:48.009 --> 00:29:50.990
Maybe it is all the, how long ago was that? I

00:29:50.990 --> 00:29:52.950
was in high school. Oh, so it was like 10 years

00:29:52.950 --> 00:29:55.769
ago. Yeah, a couple years. A couple years ago.

00:29:56.529 --> 00:29:58.859
Yeah, you know, I think the reality is There

00:29:58.859 --> 00:30:00.900
are nice people and there are not so nice people

00:30:00.900 --> 00:30:03.920
everywhere. But definitely in general trends,

00:30:04.140 --> 00:30:06.799
East Coast, they're short tempered, you know,

00:30:06.799 --> 00:30:09.940
short tempered, you know, don't like the. I tell

00:30:09.940 --> 00:30:11.279
you what, when I was walking around in New York

00:30:11.279 --> 00:30:13.400
City, I was like all excited. And in Chicago,

00:30:13.579 --> 00:30:15.559
I'm like trying to make eye contact with everybody

00:30:15.559 --> 00:30:17.160
because that's what you do in Texas. Can't do

00:30:17.160 --> 00:30:20.250
that. No one looks at each other. Nope. No one.

00:30:20.329 --> 00:30:22.509
And if you do find yourself, you know, kind of

00:30:22.509 --> 00:30:24.569
relatively alone with somebody cross passing

00:30:24.569 --> 00:30:26.349
you and you say good morning, they look at you

00:30:26.349 --> 00:30:28.809
like. Or in line at the grocery store, they're

00:30:28.809 --> 00:30:30.509
like, are you trying to take my wallet? Right?

00:30:30.990 --> 00:30:33.569
Yeah. They were kind of like, what? Why are you

00:30:33.569 --> 00:30:35.390
talking to me? Yeah. Why are you talking to me?

00:30:35.410 --> 00:30:37.329
I'm like, dude, what's up with that? Texas in

00:30:37.329 --> 00:30:39.650
general, they'll say good morning. They'll say,

00:30:39.809 --> 00:30:43.029
you know, they'll be friendly. But I don't know.

00:30:43.109 --> 00:30:44.849
Well, it's a lifestyle. You know, you're taught

00:30:44.849 --> 00:30:47.349
to do that. Your family, your parents, while

00:30:47.349 --> 00:30:49.589
growing up, you get on the subway, you stay in

00:30:49.589 --> 00:30:52.390
your lane. I mean, shoot, they are so to themselves

00:30:52.390 --> 00:30:56.269
on these subways that there could be a rape going

00:30:56.269 --> 00:30:59.250
on and they stay in the box, you know? I mean,

00:30:59.250 --> 00:31:02.089
that's kind of extreme, but it's the truth. Yeah,

00:31:02.750 --> 00:31:05.069
you're right. They stay in their lane for sure.

00:31:05.730 --> 00:31:08.410
But it's too bad. It takes, you know, what was

00:31:08.410 --> 00:31:11.369
the last name? Penny, that guy. Daniel Penny.

00:31:11.609 --> 00:31:13.190
Daniel Penny. You know, someone to stand up.

00:31:13.329 --> 00:31:15.930
Anyways, I don't want to go south down that rabbit

00:31:15.930 --> 00:31:19.950
hole, but it's crazy. Yeah, well, you know, there's

00:31:19.950 --> 00:31:22.309
people that just, they stay themselves. I don't

00:31:22.309 --> 00:31:24.130
know. I'm kind of very outgoing. I say stuff

00:31:24.130 --> 00:31:26.230
that I shouldn't say all the time to people that

00:31:26.230 --> 00:31:28.910
I don't even know. That's fair. Yes, you do.

00:31:29.109 --> 00:31:36.359
I do. Yeah. No. What do you call that? Texan?

00:31:36.359 --> 00:31:39.299
Overshare? In Norway, they would say, that's

00:31:39.299 --> 00:31:41.400
so Texas. It's true. They say that. Apparently

00:31:41.400 --> 00:31:43.740
in Norway, they say that. Oh, really? They say,

00:31:43.740 --> 00:31:46.900
that's so Texas? When it's really crazy, we had

00:31:46.900 --> 00:31:48.740
a couple people from Norway when we were in Germany,

00:31:48.779 --> 00:31:51.259
and they said... They said, honest to God, that

00:31:51.259 --> 00:31:53.160
is a saying there. When something is absolutely

00:31:53.160 --> 00:31:56.359
crazy, they say that's so Texas and Norway. They

00:31:56.359 --> 00:31:59.579
also, so I went on this trip. Oh, that's happened

00:31:59.579 --> 00:32:01.519
too since I last talked to y 'all. So there's

00:32:01.519 --> 00:32:04.039
a intro to Master of Wine program. Master of

00:32:04.039 --> 00:32:05.460
Wine is the hardest thing to get in the entire

00:32:05.460 --> 00:32:08.200
world. And that's what I'm going after. And so

00:32:08.200 --> 00:32:10.460
I was one of 22 people selected to go to Germany.

00:32:10.799 --> 00:32:14.059
And there's only one other Texan there. And she's

00:32:14.059 --> 00:32:17.559
a journalist, a huge journalist in wine. Like

00:32:17.559 --> 00:32:20.569
she covers all the magazines. And so it's me

00:32:20.569 --> 00:32:22.670
and her and then everybody else from pretty much

00:32:22.670 --> 00:32:25.490
all the other countries. And everybody pretty

00:32:25.490 --> 00:32:29.309
much had this attitude of I hate Texas. But I

00:32:29.309 --> 00:32:32.569
was like, I will win them over. And so I did.

00:32:32.650 --> 00:32:34.670
But it's so funny because I think Mr. Norway,

00:32:34.869 --> 00:32:37.950
we won't say his name, but I think that he was

00:32:37.950 --> 00:32:40.990
like the slowest to come around. And then I think

00:32:40.990 --> 00:32:43.769
after he got to know me a little bit, here's

00:32:43.769 --> 00:32:46.869
the Texas story for you. Okay, so we're in line.

00:32:47.819 --> 00:32:52.359
at um at one of these so that there's the vdp

00:32:52.359 --> 00:32:55.660
in germany and that's where there's this either

00:32:55.660 --> 00:32:57.740
it's kind of the people that make the best of

00:32:57.740 --> 00:33:00.460
the best wine laws okay so there's the wine laws

00:33:00.460 --> 00:33:02.319
of germany and then there's the vdp and they're

00:33:02.319 --> 00:33:05.299
like the If you want to be anybody, you want

00:33:05.299 --> 00:33:07.059
to be part of the VDP. Anyways, long story short,

00:33:07.259 --> 00:33:10.460
we're at this conference where we get to taste

00:33:10.460 --> 00:33:12.579
all of these fine German wines from all over

00:33:12.579 --> 00:33:15.140
Germany, which is just like the West side, because

00:33:15.140 --> 00:33:16.279
that's the only place that really has grown.

00:33:16.420 --> 00:33:19.720
And then we're, so it's like thousands upon thousands

00:33:19.720 --> 00:33:22.380
of wines and all of this stuff. And so I meet

00:33:22.380 --> 00:33:25.380
a guy in line and I'm from Texas, so I'm talking

00:33:25.380 --> 00:33:28.880
and he's from California. And I think actually

00:33:28.880 --> 00:33:30.779
originally New York, but he moved to California

00:33:30.779 --> 00:33:33.559
and he's also Asian American. So So we start

00:33:33.559 --> 00:33:36.220
talking and hit it off. And we're like, super

00:33:36.220 --> 00:33:38.559
duper high, cool, fun. We're having a great time.

00:33:38.819 --> 00:33:41.759
Well, he sees me at this event. And all of us

00:33:41.759 --> 00:33:43.680
that are part of this master of wine are doing

00:33:43.680 --> 00:33:45.339
this blind tasting. And we've decided to go to

00:33:45.339 --> 00:33:47.380
this pop -up wine bar. And we're going to buy

00:33:47.380 --> 00:33:48.980
a bottle. And we're going to hide the bottle.

00:33:49.059 --> 00:33:50.400
We're going to let everybody taste it. And we're

00:33:50.400 --> 00:33:52.119
all going to guess what it is. It was the most

00:33:52.119 --> 00:33:55.259
fun I've ever had. Also probably the most expensive

00:33:55.259 --> 00:33:57.579
table I've ever seen of people that just randomly

00:33:57.579 --> 00:34:00.279
bought wines. But bottle two was bought. And

00:34:00.279 --> 00:34:03.119
I think by bottle three, this guy from California

00:34:03.119 --> 00:34:05.599
finds me and he's like, hey, could I join in?

00:34:05.640 --> 00:34:07.720
I'll buy a bottle. And I was like, okay, cool.

00:34:08.219 --> 00:34:11.679
So he goes and he does the tasting and then he

00:34:11.679 --> 00:34:14.199
walks away. And then Mr. Norway comes up and

00:34:14.199 --> 00:34:16.599
he's like, so what's up with that? And I was

00:34:16.599 --> 00:34:17.860
like, you remember how you said everybody in

00:34:17.860 --> 00:34:19.860
Texas and like the United States, they just kind

00:34:19.860 --> 00:34:21.760
of like random. talk to people in line and it's

00:34:21.760 --> 00:34:23.380
really weird and in Norway they don't do that

00:34:23.380 --> 00:34:25.059
and he's like yeah and I'm like I met him in

00:34:25.059 --> 00:34:28.980
line and so anyways he comes yeah but then he

00:34:28.980 --> 00:34:30.820
comes in and he starts bringing wine bottles

00:34:30.820 --> 00:34:32.739
when he's you know and so he's like oh this is

00:34:32.739 --> 00:34:34.500
actually kind of cool and I was like right because

00:34:34.500 --> 00:34:38.239
hospitality is neat okay anyways that's my Germany

00:34:38.239 --> 00:34:41.739
story one of that's a good one also uh we hiked

00:34:41.739 --> 00:34:43.300
the world's deadliest vineyard and my husband

00:34:43.300 --> 00:34:45.360
was like I didn't expect it to be that deadly

00:34:45.360 --> 00:34:47.699
and I was like yeah like lots of people die there

00:34:47.699 --> 00:34:53.179
and uh because No, it's no, no, no Cajun oysters.

00:34:53.320 --> 00:34:55.500
No, it's just, it's a, it's a very steep path

00:34:55.500 --> 00:34:58.059
with no railing. And so it's very easy. Like

00:34:58.059 --> 00:35:00.159
at points, you're just hanging onto a cliff with

00:35:00.159 --> 00:35:02.119
like little, like hanging onto like little rods

00:35:02.119 --> 00:35:04.519
that they've put in there. And, um, and he's

00:35:04.519 --> 00:35:06.840
still alive. So that is proof that love is a

00:35:06.840 --> 00:35:08.519
choice. And I did not kill him and push him off

00:35:08.519 --> 00:35:10.400
a cliff. So if he's ever found murdered, you

00:35:10.400 --> 00:35:12.840
can't blame me because I had the perfect alibi

00:35:12.840 --> 00:35:16.059
opportunities. I kept distance like a lot of

00:35:16.059 --> 00:35:18.960
distance. This is in Germany. Yeah, Calmont Clutter

00:35:18.960 --> 00:35:23.820
Stag. And literally people have... About 70 years.

00:35:24.320 --> 00:35:30.239
Up to 60 % slope on there, it says. Yeah, which

00:35:30.239 --> 00:35:32.039
sounds like it's not that big of a deal. When

00:35:32.039 --> 00:35:33.579
you're staring at it, it's a pretty big deal.

00:35:33.639 --> 00:35:35.860
But the problem is that there's... Well, the

00:35:35.860 --> 00:35:38.539
ground is like it just falls apart as you're

00:35:38.539 --> 00:35:41.079
walking on it some places. But there's no...

00:35:41.519 --> 00:35:45.719
There's no railing ever. So you just tumble to

00:35:45.719 --> 00:35:46.920
your death. I'm really surprised that, I mean,

00:35:46.940 --> 00:35:49.639
usually Europe is, they over -regulate, right?

00:35:49.760 --> 00:35:52.000
I'm really surprised that Germany hasn't made

00:35:52.000 --> 00:35:55.690
them do this or that. They were all about nature

00:35:55.690 --> 00:36:00.869
is nature, and if you die, you're stupid. Survival

00:36:00.869 --> 00:36:02.869
of the fittest. She's into Darwinism, right?

00:36:02.969 --> 00:36:04.329
Yeah, pretty much. Darwin should wear the correct

00:36:04.329 --> 00:36:06.849
shoes. Right, which I didn't. I wore new shoes,

00:36:06.909 --> 00:36:08.269
and I tripped like three times and almost died.

00:36:09.650 --> 00:36:12.949
But it's okay. It went great. It was great. Other

00:36:12.949 --> 00:36:16.429
than its claim to fame as being the most dangerous

00:36:16.429 --> 00:36:20.239
vineyard to get to. Why is it so, what's so great

00:36:20.239 --> 00:36:22.079
about it? It's overlooking the mausoleum. It's

00:36:22.079 --> 00:36:24.619
probably one of the most stunning views in the

00:36:24.619 --> 00:36:27.519
entire world. It's just, it's phenomenal. Like

00:36:27.519 --> 00:36:29.380
our pictures that we have from there are just

00:36:29.380 --> 00:36:31.880
like, they're breathtaking. Worth dying for.

00:36:32.000 --> 00:36:34.760
Yeah, worth dying for. All right. Took a picture

00:36:34.760 --> 00:36:37.699
with a flag. What other interesting vineyards

00:36:37.699 --> 00:36:40.780
have you seen? Oh God. I mean, Prerat was the

00:36:40.780 --> 00:36:44.159
best. We were able to go over and see Ferrer

00:36:44.159 --> 00:36:47.340
Bobet in Prerat. So that was really nice. Where

00:36:47.340 --> 00:36:50.269
is that now? So about two hours from Barcelona.

00:36:50.550 --> 00:36:56.170
It's also on a mountain. They're really tiny,

00:36:56.309 --> 00:36:58.289
tiny little villages. There's not even like really

00:36:58.289 --> 00:37:01.750
a city nearby. And it rains maybe three times

00:37:01.750 --> 00:37:03.809
a year. It's the hardest place in the world to

00:37:03.809 --> 00:37:06.289
grow grapes. And they do it anyway. And that's

00:37:06.289 --> 00:37:08.539
where I want to grow grapes. Right there. Wow.

00:37:08.559 --> 00:37:11.280
It's so pretty. But we, you know, I also really

00:37:11.280 --> 00:37:14.380
thought it was pretty. We went to Nadal, which

00:37:14.380 --> 00:37:16.460
was in Corponaut, which is about an hour from

00:37:16.460 --> 00:37:20.059
Barcelona. And that was stunning. I love David

00:37:20.059 --> 00:37:23.119
Arthur. David Arthur is, their vineyard's stunning.

00:37:23.260 --> 00:37:29.880
That's in Napa and on Pritchard Hill. Then, I

00:37:29.880 --> 00:37:31.619
mean, Amici is fun to visit, but they're not

00:37:31.619 --> 00:37:34.760
really a vineyard. They are a winery and then

00:37:34.760 --> 00:37:38.460
they get their grapes from vineyards. Toccolone,

00:37:38.519 --> 00:37:41.500
Bextoffer Toccolone is like a really cool vineyard

00:37:41.500 --> 00:37:44.219
to go to. And there's nothing cooler than going

00:37:44.219 --> 00:37:47.860
to Bextoffer. There's several Bextoffer vineyards

00:37:47.860 --> 00:37:50.079
that I've been to. And one of them is across

00:37:50.079 --> 00:37:56.139
from Opus One. And so while we were there, there

00:37:56.139 --> 00:37:58.039
was an Opus One porta potty. So I took a picture

00:37:58.039 --> 00:38:02.070
of it. I mean, I was like, I've seen the opus

00:38:02.070 --> 00:38:05.690
one port -a -potty. I think Marisol is probably

00:38:05.690 --> 00:38:09.750
my favorite. Marisol is amazing. That's that

00:38:09.750 --> 00:38:11.750
guy we're telling about you. So he's in Rutherford

00:38:11.750 --> 00:38:14.909
and he's really cool. Like their vineyard is

00:38:14.909 --> 00:38:16.750
pretty fantastic. They've got like one of the

00:38:16.750 --> 00:38:19.530
oldest Zinfandel plots on their land than anybody

00:38:19.530 --> 00:38:21.769
else. So that was really, really neat to see

00:38:21.769 --> 00:38:26.039
that. Rutherford. Rutherford. Rutherford, yes.

00:38:26.320 --> 00:38:28.440
Rutherford. And this is near Napa or in Napa?

00:38:28.500 --> 00:38:31.360
In Napa. In Napa. Yeah, so Napa is like the big

00:38:31.360 --> 00:38:33.800
AVA, but you have like sub -AVAs, so it's in

00:38:33.800 --> 00:38:37.719
Rutherford. Interesting. Like Calistoga and Oakville

00:38:37.719 --> 00:38:40.579
and all those. Yep. See, I know nothing. I know

00:38:40.579 --> 00:38:41.679
nothing about Carneros. Well, you will in Napa.

00:38:41.719 --> 00:38:45.940
Are you going next year? We'll see. We'll see.

00:38:46.000 --> 00:38:47.519
That's when we're supposed to go to Europe, not

00:38:47.519 --> 00:38:49.780
before or after that. When are y 'all going?

00:38:49.880 --> 00:38:52.940
What month is this? It's in June. June. Middle

00:38:52.940 --> 00:38:55.539
of June. I'm going in September. Yeah, middle

00:38:55.539 --> 00:38:57.699
of June. Yeah, but that would be a wonderful

00:38:57.699 --> 00:39:00.760
trip. And yes, we are trying to figure out how

00:39:00.760 --> 00:39:02.659
to make that work with the other trip we got

00:39:02.659 --> 00:39:04.980
going on. So, yeah. Anyway. Oh, it's right by

00:39:04.980 --> 00:39:06.699
Cake Bread. I've been to Cake Bread. Yeah, yeah,

00:39:06.719 --> 00:39:08.840
yeah. She harvests early, so she missed the fires.

00:39:09.820 --> 00:39:12.219
Just so y 'all know. Yeah. You can buy a 2020

00:39:12.219 --> 00:39:15.500
Cake Bread. It's safe. That is one big bonus

00:39:15.500 --> 00:39:20.000
about being into wines is that wineries, vineyards.

00:39:20.320 --> 00:39:22.940
all beautiful like you know what i mean it's

00:39:22.940 --> 00:39:27.380
all part of the the whole experience of wine

00:39:27.380 --> 00:39:30.059
it is it's extremely romantic i think working

00:39:30.059 --> 00:39:31.860
in it will sober you up really quickly if you're

00:39:31.860 --> 00:39:34.639
not made for it because i did harvest with somebody

00:39:34.639 --> 00:39:36.480
else and at first she's like yes i love this

00:39:36.480 --> 00:39:39.119
i want to do this and was like i'm going to probably

00:39:39.119 --> 00:39:42.599
apply to be an intern and then like two weeks

00:39:42.599 --> 00:39:44.000
later she's like yeah i don't know what i was

00:39:44.000 --> 00:39:45.849
thinking i'll never do that again Right. And

00:39:45.849 --> 00:39:48.369
I was like, I could do it forever. I mean, you,

00:39:48.449 --> 00:39:51.389
you got like 10 to 12 hour days. You're freezing

00:39:51.389 --> 00:39:54.550
cold half the time because it's really cold at

00:39:54.550 --> 00:39:57.070
night before the sun comes up and you're covered

00:39:57.070 --> 00:39:59.909
in water. So, and it's a lot of hard work and

00:39:59.909 --> 00:40:01.929
you risk your life at some of these wineries.

00:40:02.010 --> 00:40:04.829
So I'm not super glamorous there, but I mean,

00:40:04.849 --> 00:40:07.230
I do it in a heartbeat, but there's so much culture

00:40:07.230 --> 00:40:10.769
and festivals and, and you know, it's a lifestyle.

00:40:11.070 --> 00:40:15.760
Yeah. Yeah. It's cool. I agree. Sign me up. Can

00:40:15.760 --> 00:40:18.500
I go tomorrow? I'm just going to leave. That's

00:40:18.500 --> 00:40:21.630
a yes, right? I won't stop you. We were talking

00:40:21.630 --> 00:40:24.010
about like when I go and I do a harvest, I'll

00:40:24.010 --> 00:40:26.389
have to go for seven to nine months. Like where

00:40:26.389 --> 00:40:29.309
would we go? And so I think I'm leaning towards

00:40:29.309 --> 00:40:30.909
Spain, but I wouldn't mind doing California.

00:40:31.550 --> 00:40:34.150
It's just hard to find like the right spot because

00:40:34.150 --> 00:40:36.030
you want to learn all the winemaking techniques

00:40:36.030 --> 00:40:39.090
that you want to learn. So I'm leaning towards

00:40:39.090 --> 00:40:41.210
Corbinot because you can have red wine, white

00:40:41.210 --> 00:40:44.030
wine, rosé, and sparkling all in one place. And

00:40:44.030 --> 00:40:46.309
you can learn the differences and all that kind

00:40:46.309 --> 00:40:48.570
of stuff. Yeah. Yeah. It'd be pretty cool. Have

00:40:48.570 --> 00:40:50.309
we talked about the bottle we're drinking right

00:40:50.309 --> 00:40:52.849
now? No. We have not. Can we do that? Let's discuss

00:40:52.849 --> 00:40:55.429
it. Is now a good time to do that? So this is

00:40:55.429 --> 00:40:59.110
Oren Swift is the name of the label. So Oren

00:40:59.110 --> 00:41:02.449
Swift is, they're known for a lot of their wines,

00:41:02.550 --> 00:41:06.219
high alcohol percentage, bold wines. Um, the

00:41:06.219 --> 00:41:09.360
winemaker is actually Dave Finney. So Dave Finney

00:41:09.360 --> 00:41:11.960
made the prisoner and, um, sold the prisoner.

00:41:12.159 --> 00:41:15.739
Um, he's still the winemaker for Oren Swift and

00:41:15.739 --> 00:41:18.719
I believe not for the prisoner. So, uh, Gallo

00:41:18.719 --> 00:41:21.239
now owns Oren Swift, but Oren Swift. What is

00:41:21.239 --> 00:41:24.119
the prisoner? Um, the prisoner. So if you were

00:41:24.119 --> 00:41:26.059
a wine drinker, you'd be like, oh, it's the prisoner.

00:41:26.159 --> 00:41:29.619
It's, it's like a 40. 40 ish dollar bottle of

00:41:29.619 --> 00:41:32.179
wine that everybody thinks like hung the moon.

00:41:32.219 --> 00:41:35.199
And I, I have nothing against like the prisoner.

00:41:35.260 --> 00:41:37.260
I think it's, it's fine. If you want to do a

00:41:37.260 --> 00:41:40.599
fun wine, it's a fun wine. Um, but yeah, so he

00:41:40.599 --> 00:41:43.159
did that. He sold it, um, started Orin Swift

00:41:43.159 --> 00:41:47.480
and, um, he has, um, I can't remember. I think

00:41:47.480 --> 00:41:49.900
I wrote it down. Are they still making The Prisoner?

00:41:49.900 --> 00:41:51.780
Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, it wasn't

00:41:51.780 --> 00:41:53.739
like a one -release thing. Yeah, you can buy

00:41:53.739 --> 00:41:55.840
it. I see it at the store. But I think Dave Finney

00:41:55.840 --> 00:41:58.099
still makes the Orin Swift, even though he sold

00:41:58.099 --> 00:42:01.940
it to Gallo. So this is the Papillon, and Papillon

00:42:01.940 --> 00:42:04.420
is across the knuckles of these hands that are

00:42:04.420 --> 00:42:06.099
on the bottle. That's actually the farmer's hands

00:42:06.099 --> 00:42:09.900
that farms the grapes. Okay. And I don't know

00:42:09.900 --> 00:42:13.619
if it— Hold on. Slow down for us. Okay, slowing

00:42:13.619 --> 00:42:16.260
down. Papillon. Papillon is the name of the bottle

00:42:16.260 --> 00:42:20.300
of wine. Is it related to the movie? Have you

00:42:20.300 --> 00:42:22.380
ever seen the movie Papillon with Dustin Hoffman?

00:42:22.460 --> 00:42:24.320
You're talking to me, so you know I haven't seen

00:42:24.320 --> 00:42:25.860
it. I had to watch like three movies after our

00:42:25.860 --> 00:42:29.420
last one. Papillon is actually an extremely good

00:42:29.420 --> 00:42:32.679
movie. It's kind of depressing, but it's a French

00:42:32.679 --> 00:42:37.179
guy, Dustin Hoffman. He gets busted for something.

00:42:37.199 --> 00:42:41.980
He gets thrown on a prison island. And it's his

00:42:41.980 --> 00:42:43.780
life on the prison island and his attempt to

00:42:43.780 --> 00:42:45.840
try to get off of the island. It has nothing

00:42:45.840 --> 00:42:48.659
to do with wine? No, it does not at all. But

00:42:48.659 --> 00:42:50.219
the name. But the name. That's why I was like,

00:42:50.239 --> 00:42:52.159
is it related to that? I don't know. So I do

00:42:52.159 --> 00:42:54.599
know that Oren Swift plays heavily with art.

00:42:54.820 --> 00:42:57.360
He loves art. So like a lot of his bottles are

00:42:57.360 --> 00:42:59.380
more risque. He's got an actual mummy on one

00:42:59.380 --> 00:43:02.559
of his bottles. He's got a, I think it's an Indian

00:43:02.559 --> 00:43:05.880
head nickel on one of his bottles, a mercury

00:43:05.880 --> 00:43:10.679
head. And then he's got, He's got the machete.

00:43:10.679 --> 00:43:14.360
Machete has one model every year, and they're

00:43:14.360 --> 00:43:17.739
generally female. And there'll be 12 photos done,

00:43:17.880 --> 00:43:20.539
and each bottle in your case will have one of

00:43:20.539 --> 00:43:23.019
those photos, but they're more risque. So people

00:43:23.019 --> 00:43:25.739
are all like, if you pull it up, it's a machete

00:43:25.739 --> 00:43:29.559
by Orin Swift. Okay, so I made the mistake of

00:43:29.559 --> 00:43:33.199
thinking that what they name the bottle has,

00:43:33.380 --> 00:43:36.219
that it always has something to do with... their

00:43:36.219 --> 00:43:38.980
winery or their vineyard or their something,

00:43:39.159 --> 00:43:42.780
but not at all. No, he's just, he's very artsy

00:43:42.780 --> 00:43:45.280
and likes the art stuff. Yeah, so like, you know,

00:43:45.300 --> 00:43:47.000
you've got 12 different models with this model

00:43:47.000 --> 00:43:49.019
and some, you know, I don't even know if she's

00:43:49.019 --> 00:43:50.340
wearing clothes in all of them. That's Tanya,

00:43:50.420 --> 00:43:52.880
right? But it doesn't show. Tanya, the girl from

00:43:52.880 --> 00:43:55.659
Here I Go Again? I don't know. Tanya Katane?

00:43:55.780 --> 00:43:58.239
The white snake? Yeah, isn't that the white snake

00:43:58.239 --> 00:44:01.500
video? Well, she has an afro. Tanya Katane had

00:44:01.500 --> 00:44:03.780
red hair. Oh, okay. Well, I was close. Yeah.

00:44:03.820 --> 00:44:08.519
So anyways, so he plays on. The funny part about

00:44:08.519 --> 00:44:09.980
this and the reason I brought this is this kind

00:44:09.980 --> 00:44:12.059
of segues into what I wanted to hopefully talk

00:44:12.059 --> 00:44:15.159
to your listeners to about, which is that this

00:44:15.159 --> 00:44:18.039
is his Bordeaux style blend. Okay. So what's

00:44:18.039 --> 00:44:20.059
funny about it is it's not Bordeaux at all. It's

00:44:20.059 --> 00:44:22.219
just using the five main grapes of Bordeaux,

00:44:22.280 --> 00:44:24.400
which is super cool. I mean, you pay homage to

00:44:24.400 --> 00:44:27.039
the grapes that they use, but it's that true,

00:44:27.099 --> 00:44:29.980
big, bold Napa style. So Napa's got like two

00:44:29.980 --> 00:44:32.719
styles, right? Which we can discuss in a second.

00:44:32.719 --> 00:44:34.400
I think we should taste the wine because it's

00:44:34.400 --> 00:44:35.820
been sitting here for a while and I really want

00:44:35.820 --> 00:44:38.159
to taste it. Yeah, mine's almost gone. I was

00:44:38.159 --> 00:44:39.780
going to say, were we not supposed to be tasting

00:44:39.780 --> 00:44:41.260
it all along? Chris, you're late. Mine's gone.

00:44:41.500 --> 00:44:42.940
Because mine is almost all gone. Well, Chris,

00:44:42.960 --> 00:44:44.980
we'll hook you up with an infinity bottle sample.

00:44:46.239 --> 00:44:48.219
Perfect. Okay, well, let's start with Kristen's.

00:44:48.340 --> 00:44:51.699
This is already empty. Oh, wow. What did you

00:44:51.699 --> 00:44:53.980
think about this one, sir? First, let me say

00:44:53.980 --> 00:44:57.139
that I think she took this class. I absolutely

00:44:57.139 --> 00:44:59.820
did not. Oh, she swapped it? I'm pretty sure.

00:44:59.880 --> 00:45:01.219
Do we need to go back over the footage and see

00:45:01.219 --> 00:45:03.000
if she swapped it? You should definitely do that.

00:45:03.000 --> 00:45:05.239
If there's a playback version, I wouldn't mind

00:45:05.239 --> 00:45:09.239
the playback. Just make you look guilty. So what

00:45:09.239 --> 00:45:10.809
did you think of it? I think it was really good.

00:45:10.869 --> 00:45:14.510
I'm usually not a huge bold red wine drinker.

00:45:14.530 --> 00:45:16.789
So that's a hurt. We were very different in our

00:45:16.789 --> 00:45:20.869
preferences. In everything. Okay. But for me,

00:45:20.889 --> 00:45:22.789
this was still good. This was still good. I like

00:45:22.789 --> 00:45:25.670
the... It was fleeting. It didn't stick on my

00:45:25.670 --> 00:45:27.880
mouth. Sometimes I'll drink a red wine, and it's

00:45:27.880 --> 00:45:29.500
like for a while, I'm like, oh, that's nasty.

00:45:29.519 --> 00:45:31.300
I need to go drink something else, right? Right.

00:45:31.440 --> 00:45:33.860
This wasn't that. Got to clear your palate type

00:45:33.860 --> 00:45:36.579
of thing. This was really smooth, and the finish

00:45:36.579 --> 00:45:38.780
was nice. I agree with that. Yeah, the finish

00:45:38.780 --> 00:45:41.219
was good, but it wasn't where the shit sticks

00:45:41.219 --> 00:45:43.480
to your tongue. It's kind of bitter, the tannins,

00:45:43.480 --> 00:45:44.820
or whatever you want to call it. Yeah, it wasn't

00:45:44.820 --> 00:45:46.760
thick at all. Yeah, it was really, really very

00:45:46.760 --> 00:45:51.119
fruity to me, flavorful, floral, I think, in

00:45:51.119 --> 00:45:55.920
there. Yeah. I got a lot of leather. And caramel.

00:45:57.860 --> 00:46:00.019
Caramelized leather. Some stone fruit. Yeah.

00:46:00.119 --> 00:46:02.320
No, I taste some, I don't know, stone fruit,

00:46:02.420 --> 00:46:05.260
but I taste, there's definitely fruity in there,

00:46:05.260 --> 00:46:07.239
a little blueberry action. Oh, it's very fruity.

00:46:07.239 --> 00:46:11.159
You know, it's got that little sour. bite on

00:46:11.159 --> 00:46:13.320
there that just makes it perfect i am enjoying

00:46:13.320 --> 00:46:16.480
this price on this around 100 bucks huh yeah

00:46:16.480 --> 00:46:19.079
yeah so like in texas around here if you're gonna

00:46:19.079 --> 00:46:20.900
buy it you're usually gonna find it for around

00:46:20.900 --> 00:46:24.420
85 a bottle plus tax but it is a it's a spectacular

00:46:24.420 --> 00:46:28.099
wine i think for for a bold nap of wine it's

00:46:28.099 --> 00:46:30.739
a fun one to have i mean the artwork's great

00:46:30.739 --> 00:46:34.159
it's 14 .5 alcohol so it's good that we split

00:46:34.159 --> 00:46:37.739
it amongst six of us so um yeah and i i mean

00:46:37.739 --> 00:46:40.500
i really do love how they blended the grapes

00:46:40.500 --> 00:46:42.900
together. I'm a big fan of Cab, but I'm also

00:46:42.900 --> 00:46:44.840
a huge fan of Cab Franc, which is kind of peppery.

00:46:45.519 --> 00:46:47.960
But they still have the fruitiness with that

00:46:47.960 --> 00:46:50.500
Merlot. It softens up the tannins. And so they

00:46:50.500 --> 00:46:52.920
really did a great job. And Dave Finney is known

00:46:52.920 --> 00:46:55.559
to just be really good at making these wines

00:46:55.559 --> 00:46:58.280
and really making something a little bit different,

00:46:58.360 --> 00:47:00.940
but always in that very bold, high alcohol percentage.

00:47:01.119 --> 00:47:02.980
So if you ever want somebody that's like, or

00:47:02.980 --> 00:47:04.679
if you meet somebody and you're talking to them,

00:47:04.699 --> 00:47:06.179
they're like, I really want a Pinot Noir with

00:47:06.179 --> 00:47:08.179
a high percentage of alcohol. It's going to mess

00:47:08.179 --> 00:47:10.460
me up. Like, one, why are you drinking Pinot?

00:47:10.519 --> 00:47:12.739
But, oh, well. But, no, they make a Pinot. Did

00:47:12.739 --> 00:47:14.500
you point it to the friends of your boxes? Yeah,

00:47:14.500 --> 00:47:18.840
no. They have the Pinot Noir, and even his Pinot

00:47:18.840 --> 00:47:20.780
Noir, everything's high alcohol with them. So

00:47:20.780 --> 00:47:22.719
Dave Finney really likes it. And Oren Swift was

00:47:22.719 --> 00:47:25.400
named after his parents. So Oren is his father's

00:47:25.400 --> 00:47:28.019
middle name, and Swift was his mother's maiden

00:47:28.019 --> 00:47:31.860
name. And he's extremely eccentric and drops

00:47:31.860 --> 00:47:34.119
the F -bomb like there's no tomorrow. So if you

00:47:34.119 --> 00:47:36.340
ever watch him on YouTube, you'll be like, wow,

00:47:36.380 --> 00:47:38.539
he says the F -word a lot. And if you're drinking

00:47:38.539 --> 00:47:40.340
and you make it a shots game, you're probably

00:47:40.340 --> 00:47:42.579
just going to be wasted. There you go. I like

00:47:42.579 --> 00:47:47.500
this idea already. Go ahead. I was going to say

00:47:47.500 --> 00:47:49.139
regarding the bottles themselves. Yeah, yeah.

00:47:49.219 --> 00:47:51.880
So the shape. So first of all, there's a couple

00:47:51.880 --> 00:47:54.340
questions, and I'm going to go through the questions

00:47:54.340 --> 00:47:56.280
real quick. So I know like Bordeaux bottles,

00:47:56.420 --> 00:47:58.360
from what I understood, Bordeaux bottles are

00:47:58.360 --> 00:48:01.079
very specific in the shape what they are, and

00:48:01.079 --> 00:48:03.500
I think they consist of seven different grapes

00:48:03.500 --> 00:48:08.150
in there. Next question. underneath the bottle

00:48:08.150 --> 00:48:11.610
you have different and this is true with some

00:48:11.610 --> 00:48:13.769
of the bourbons too they're sometimes they're

00:48:13.769 --> 00:48:16.070
just a huge sometimes they're flat what's the

00:48:16.070 --> 00:48:19.630
story on that so and then the third question

00:48:19.630 --> 00:48:22.929
is what about the shape of this bottle what why

00:48:22.929 --> 00:48:25.550
is it in that shape and is it for a reason so

00:48:25.550 --> 00:48:30.309
okay the bottle questions and okay so like yes

00:48:30.309 --> 00:48:33.199
bordeaux has different bottle sizes, but they're

00:48:33.199 --> 00:48:36.179
all typically tall and more narrow, but not quite

00:48:36.179 --> 00:48:37.820
as tall and narrow as like maybe some of the

00:48:37.820 --> 00:48:39.480
other ones you'll see in like maybe Italy or

00:48:39.480 --> 00:48:43.320
something. But yeah, they tend to be a very specific

00:48:43.320 --> 00:48:47.360
size. Every person that makes wine gets to kind

00:48:47.360 --> 00:48:49.599
of choose their bottle, but in Bordeaux, there's

00:48:49.599 --> 00:48:52.190
like rules. regarding everything labels and all

00:48:52.190 --> 00:48:53.809
kinds of stuff and like what grapes they're allowed

00:48:53.809 --> 00:48:56.570
to use and if they use certain grapes they can't

00:48:56.570 --> 00:48:59.030
put that it's from their region necessarily if

00:48:59.030 --> 00:49:00.670
they're not supposed to be growing grapes from

00:49:00.670 --> 00:49:02.590
that area so then they have to like make it a

00:49:02.590 --> 00:49:04.250
bigger region like there's all these rules so

00:49:04.250 --> 00:49:07.110
um yeah they're Bordeaux is one of those ones

00:49:07.110 --> 00:49:09.210
that are like I want to become a winemaker nobody's

00:49:09.210 --> 00:49:11.349
like let's start in Bordeaux that would be easy

00:49:11.349 --> 00:49:15.150
um so that's kind of the the style and the size

00:49:15.150 --> 00:49:18.230
of those bottles in California anything goes

00:49:18.230 --> 00:49:20.940
if you want it you got it like an Ariana Grande

00:49:20.940 --> 00:49:24.820
song. So literally you could do anything. In

00:49:24.820 --> 00:49:27.559
terms of the bottle too? With everything. Everything.

00:49:27.699 --> 00:49:31.079
Well, how you label it, it has to be a certain

00:49:31.079 --> 00:49:33.059
percentage. If you're going to label it as like,

00:49:33.119 --> 00:49:35.280
this is a cap, right? Then it's got to be like

00:49:35.280 --> 00:49:36.920
a certain percentage. So generally speaking,

00:49:37.039 --> 00:49:41.440
85%. But as far as bottling techniques go, that's

00:49:41.440 --> 00:49:42.619
totally up. Or the shape of the bottle. Yeah,

00:49:42.619 --> 00:49:45.139
the shape, whatever they want to do. anything

00:49:45.139 --> 00:49:47.840
goes i will say you'll find the wider bottles

00:49:47.840 --> 00:49:50.980
in california they want the the heavier wider

00:49:50.980 --> 00:49:54.400
bottles which is a bitch when you're trying to

00:49:54.400 --> 00:49:57.519
ship stuff but um which speak from experience

00:49:57.519 --> 00:49:59.340
because there is a suitcase that holds 12 bottles

00:49:59.340 --> 00:50:01.880
of wine but it goes over the weight limit when

00:50:01.880 --> 00:50:04.199
it's california wine because of those dang bottles

00:50:04.199 --> 00:50:09.360
so um and then the indention hold on So if I'm

00:50:09.360 --> 00:50:11.219
a sommelier and I'm holding your bottle at the

00:50:11.219 --> 00:50:13.820
table, I can literally, if I'm bringing it up,

00:50:13.900 --> 00:50:15.900
I can literally sit here and talk about the wine

00:50:15.900 --> 00:50:18.780
and I can hold it with my thumb inside this indention

00:50:18.780 --> 00:50:21.800
as I talk to you about the wine and not disturb

00:50:21.800 --> 00:50:23.820
the label. Because the label's always got to

00:50:23.820 --> 00:50:26.380
be facing the person, right? Interesting. So

00:50:26.380 --> 00:50:30.559
that's kind of why the indention's there. What

00:50:30.559 --> 00:50:33.980
about the transfer of heat from your hand to

00:50:33.980 --> 00:50:39.130
the bottle? So there's more transfer to the glass

00:50:39.130 --> 00:50:41.670
than to the bottle. They're not super worried

00:50:41.670 --> 00:50:43.989
that within the time that it takes you to serve

00:50:43.989 --> 00:50:45.849
and talk about a wine, the wine's going to get

00:50:45.849 --> 00:50:49.869
warm. And there is serving temperatures that

00:50:49.869 --> 00:50:52.570
are perfect for every wine, but it's more your

00:50:52.570 --> 00:50:55.730
glass. Right now, the audience cannot see, or

00:50:55.730 --> 00:50:59.179
maybe they can't, who knows. Hi. Okay, so this

00:50:59.179 --> 00:51:01.619
is a stemless glass. And so we were talking to

00:51:01.619 --> 00:51:05.199
my now ex -brother -in -law. Hi, Greg. So he

00:51:05.199 --> 00:51:08.460
talked about like it was gay to use the stem.

00:51:08.860 --> 00:51:11.300
Well, the stem is protecting your wine unless

00:51:11.300 --> 00:51:13.300
you really, like if you want it to open up and

00:51:13.300 --> 00:51:15.699
you're okay with like a warmer wine, like I'm

00:51:15.699 --> 00:51:18.340
okay with that. If it's Italian or if it's French,

00:51:18.579 --> 00:51:20.599
I can sit here and I can hug on it, right? Because

00:51:20.599 --> 00:51:22.980
it's going to open up some more. It's going to

00:51:22.980 --> 00:51:25.199
aerate a little bit more. That's fine. If I'm

00:51:25.199 --> 00:51:27.679
drinking a chilled white wine or a rosé or a

00:51:27.679 --> 00:51:29.800
champagne, I don't want it to get warm, right?

00:51:29.920 --> 00:51:32.199
So you're going to hold it from the little stem

00:51:32.199 --> 00:51:34.179
on the glass. You don't want to hold it right

00:51:34.179 --> 00:51:36.699
here. So generally speaking, if you want a cold

00:51:36.699 --> 00:51:38.360
wine, you're not going to use a stemless. glass.

00:51:38.420 --> 00:51:40.360
Well, you just don't have your pinky out when

00:51:40.360 --> 00:51:43.019
you're holding stuff. That's for tea. Then you're

00:51:43.019 --> 00:51:46.599
not gay. Well, I'd like to be happy. You know,

00:51:46.619 --> 00:51:49.340
I guess when you think about all this, the best

00:51:49.340 --> 00:51:52.079
strategy is just to drink it so fast that a cold

00:51:52.079 --> 00:51:54.000
one won't get warm and a warm one won't get cold.

00:51:54.059 --> 00:51:55.579
That's exactly what I was doing. I think you're

00:51:55.579 --> 00:51:59.480
supposed to savor. Yeah, the speed of consumption

00:51:59.480 --> 00:52:03.500
saves you from all of these things that you have

00:52:03.500 --> 00:52:05.539
to stress about. Now I will say that the thing

00:52:05.539 --> 00:52:07.679
I did want to talk about is like the, the Bordeaux

00:52:07.679 --> 00:52:10.320
style that you do see some more of the Bordeaux

00:52:10.320 --> 00:52:14.099
style of cabs in Napa, like cake bread. That's

00:52:14.099 --> 00:52:17.139
one. She does early harvest. Um, and, and you'll

00:52:17.139 --> 00:52:19.539
like, even, even with more solely wines, cause

00:52:19.539 --> 00:52:21.079
it's a vineyard, but they also have their own

00:52:21.079 --> 00:52:25.380
wine club. We remember what? 220, 219. Sorry,

00:52:25.860 --> 00:52:27.219
Chris. I don't remember the number. He wrote,

00:52:27.239 --> 00:52:29.219
he put it on the coin and sent it to us. I should

00:52:29.219 --> 00:52:32.599
know. Um, anyways, uh, but. There are people

00:52:32.599 --> 00:52:34.960
that are making the bigger, bolder styles and

00:52:34.960 --> 00:52:37.320
that's going to be something like this or there's

00:52:37.320 --> 00:52:40.840
so many out there that you can buy and it's just

00:52:40.840 --> 00:52:43.340
high alcohol, bold fruit. You can drink it now.

00:52:43.380 --> 00:52:45.539
You can cellar it because it's got acidity and

00:52:45.539 --> 00:52:46.980
it's got all this stuff in it that's going to

00:52:46.980 --> 00:52:50.539
make it cellar. But they're meant to be easy

00:52:50.539 --> 00:52:52.300
to drink now. Like I can think of like Russell

00:52:52.300 --> 00:52:54.599
Bevan and his wines and there's just so many.

00:52:54.940 --> 00:52:57.079
But then you have like Amici and they're like,

00:52:57.360 --> 00:52:59.460
you know, you can let this sit for a while. You

00:52:59.460 --> 00:53:01.300
know, you can savor it a little bit. It's not

00:53:01.300 --> 00:53:03.679
so bold and in your face. It's just yummy. Right.

00:53:04.159 --> 00:53:07.559
And then same thing with like cake bread. When

00:53:07.559 --> 00:53:10.579
you have a cake bread wine or or groth or greach,

00:53:10.599 --> 00:53:12.880
some of those can be a little bit less bold.

00:53:13.000 --> 00:53:14.599
And people are like, oh, I don't know that I

00:53:14.599 --> 00:53:16.760
like this. It's not a typical cab from California.

00:53:16.760 --> 00:53:18.840
And I'm like, well, it is. There's just two different

00:53:18.840 --> 00:53:21.139
styles. So that's pretty much it. If they do

00:53:21.139 --> 00:53:23.840
have that big and bold, though, they're generally

00:53:23.840 --> 00:53:26.780
picking their fruit later in the year. And that's

00:53:26.780 --> 00:53:29.000
getting more sugar in the grape, which means

00:53:29.000 --> 00:53:30.820
the alcohol will go up and it'll be more bold.

00:53:31.280 --> 00:53:33.960
So a couple times you've mentioned in California

00:53:33.960 --> 00:53:36.940
they can do whatever they want. During the class

00:53:36.940 --> 00:53:42.019
I took, they mentioned Mega Purple. Yeah. There's

00:53:42.019 --> 00:53:45.039
not really hard proof, but I think some folks

00:53:45.039 --> 00:53:47.960
have sent off to lab and they've done some tests

00:53:47.960 --> 00:53:51.219
for a few of these wineries and they're actually

00:53:51.219 --> 00:53:54.360
using Mega Purple. What does that mean? What's

00:53:54.360 --> 00:53:57.460
Mega Purple? So it's a coloring agent to make

00:53:57.460 --> 00:54:00.159
your wine look this color. Oh, no. That's not

00:54:00.159 --> 00:54:02.840
good. Grape concentrate. Yeah. It's also very

00:54:02.840 --> 00:54:04.820
sweet, isn't it? Yeah. There's a little sugar

00:54:04.820 --> 00:54:07.820
in it. Okay. So the one that gets accused of

00:54:07.820 --> 00:54:11.300
this the most is Caymus. Caymus gets accused

00:54:11.300 --> 00:54:14.769
of this all the time. And I have not. met the

00:54:14.769 --> 00:54:19.289
founding father, literally, of the Wagner family.

00:54:19.489 --> 00:54:24.130
But meeting with the people that run one of his

00:54:24.130 --> 00:54:27.050
sons, and so there's different kids. There's

00:54:27.050 --> 00:54:29.110
two boys and one girl, and they all make wine.

00:54:29.369 --> 00:54:33.010
And the Wagner style is longer hanging fruit,

00:54:33.150 --> 00:54:37.750
so that the alcohol gets higher, the sugar is

00:54:37.750 --> 00:54:42.210
higher, it's more bold. And they swear, if you

00:54:42.210 --> 00:54:44.230
talk to anybody in the Wagner family, they swear

00:54:44.230 --> 00:54:48.289
that this is not used. I work in the wine industry

00:54:48.289 --> 00:54:51.489
on the retail side. So to me, Whether it's used

00:54:51.489 --> 00:54:54.570
or not is not as important as do people like

00:54:54.570 --> 00:54:57.530
the wine. And so when people ask me what does

00:54:57.530 --> 00:55:00.429
Caymus 50 anniversary taste like, I'm like, it

00:55:00.429 --> 00:55:04.789
tastes like 49 and 48 and 47 because it's a consistent

00:55:04.789 --> 00:55:06.789
product. It's a little bit of a blend. It's a

00:55:06.789 --> 00:55:08.369
Cabernet, but there's still a little blending

00:55:08.369 --> 00:55:11.130
that's used. And they consistently create a product

00:55:11.130 --> 00:55:13.050
that tastes the same year after year. And that's

00:55:13.050 --> 00:55:16.550
what people want, right? So do they use the dye,

00:55:16.829 --> 00:55:20.239
the forbidden purple? I don't know. They haven't

00:55:20.239 --> 00:55:22.059
researched it. So I don't know. The other one

00:55:22.059 --> 00:55:26.360
I heard was the Miami, the Pinot Noir is lots.

00:55:26.840 --> 00:55:28.960
There's a lot of sugar in it. I think it's like

00:55:28.960 --> 00:55:34.159
22 or 22 or 23 grams of sugar. It was. Yeah,

00:55:34.280 --> 00:55:36.079
it was more than a soda. Yeah, it was a lot.

00:55:36.139 --> 00:55:38.440
Yeah. So when people call me a dry wine, I'm

00:55:38.440 --> 00:55:41.800
like, OK, well. Oh, so really. So dry wine has

00:55:41.800 --> 00:55:44.380
more sugar. No, it doesn't. People just call

00:55:44.380 --> 00:55:46.800
me. Some people call me a dry wine. Technically,

00:55:46.960 --> 00:55:49.820
it is. It's not a sweet wine. It just has a lot

00:55:49.820 --> 00:55:52.320
of sugar in it. To me, it's sweet. I don't drink

00:55:52.320 --> 00:55:55.300
wine like that. Jeff mentioned the Mega Purple

00:55:55.300 --> 00:55:59.380
stuff, but where are they getting the Mega Purple

00:55:59.380 --> 00:56:01.280
product? I mean, they got a bottle up there that

00:56:01.280 --> 00:56:03.400
says, hi, I'm Mega Purple. I mean, are they getting

00:56:03.400 --> 00:56:09.059
this from Costco? I mean, it's just like a byproduct

00:56:09.059 --> 00:56:14.239
of a collective. Grape? I have not gotten into

00:56:14.239 --> 00:56:16.159
winemaking enough to tell you where makeup purple

00:56:16.159 --> 00:56:18.300
comes from. I've never studied it. It sounds

00:56:18.300 --> 00:56:21.019
like they're cheating. I mean, they could be

00:56:21.019 --> 00:56:23.760
if they being whoever might be using it, but

00:56:23.760 --> 00:56:26.420
I really don't know. I've never read anything.

00:56:26.840 --> 00:56:29.219
Or is it something that's just kind of what they

00:56:29.219 --> 00:56:31.880
use now? No, it's definitely not what they use.

00:56:31.940 --> 00:56:34.300
I could tell you a number of the wineries and

00:56:34.300 --> 00:56:35.820
wine owners that I've met that they definitely

00:56:35.820 --> 00:56:39.199
do not use it. I was there with Amici. I saw

00:56:39.199 --> 00:56:40.619
everything that they put in their wine. It's

00:56:40.619 --> 00:56:43.599
all natural stuff. I was going to say, somebody

00:56:43.599 --> 00:56:47.940
who puts that much heart and soul into their

00:56:47.940 --> 00:56:50.760
product, I would be really surprised. What I

00:56:50.760 --> 00:56:55.420
read, it's these companies. No, not the up -and

00:56:55.420 --> 00:56:59.360
-comers. The big companies who are selling millions

00:56:59.360 --> 00:57:00.860
and millions and millions of bottles. All they

00:57:00.860 --> 00:57:03.159
care about is volume. And they want a consistent

00:57:03.159 --> 00:57:05.760
flavor. And that's how they do it. They want

00:57:05.760 --> 00:57:07.360
it to match every single bottle. When you do

00:57:07.360 --> 00:57:08.780
a million bottles, they want it to all taste

00:57:08.780 --> 00:57:11.440
the same. Right. And do it fast. And all they

00:57:11.440 --> 00:57:14.320
care about is volume and price. And margin. After

00:57:14.320 --> 00:57:19.019
the fires of 2020, there was a big, like, there

00:57:19.019 --> 00:57:20.500
was a thing that you could, there was two different

00:57:20.500 --> 00:57:22.179
chemicals you could put in your wine to make

00:57:22.179 --> 00:57:25.449
the flavor of the fire go away. And so people

00:57:25.449 --> 00:57:28.150
were using that. And so that's another big one

00:57:28.150 --> 00:57:30.630
is like, when was this grape harvested? Oh, man.

00:57:30.710 --> 00:57:32.590
That year. I'm kind of curious to see what that

00:57:32.590 --> 00:57:36.809
tastes like. A smoky Cabernet? It's not as...

00:57:37.349 --> 00:57:40.389
It's not as glamorous. It tastes like burnt grape.

00:57:40.449 --> 00:57:43.210
This is cigar. This is cigar wine. It tastes

00:57:43.210 --> 00:57:45.929
manipulated. I happen to know a few that do that.

00:57:46.030 --> 00:57:47.489
I'm not going to say it on air just because,

00:57:47.590 --> 00:57:48.550
you know, I don't know what's going to happen

00:57:48.550 --> 00:57:49.949
with my career further on down the line. Who

00:57:49.949 --> 00:57:52.329
knows? I might interview for some of them. I

00:57:52.329 --> 00:57:54.510
don't know. But I will tell you that people do

00:57:54.510 --> 00:57:56.829
use it. And when you taste it, you're like, okay,

00:57:56.909 --> 00:58:00.050
yeah, that's it. I mean, I am trained my nose

00:58:00.050 --> 00:58:02.409
and my taste buds. Like, that's all I do. I'm

00:58:02.409 --> 00:58:05.030
in a wine tasting group. If my kids cook something

00:58:05.030 --> 00:58:06.889
at 2 o 'clock in the morning, I am up all night

00:58:06.889 --> 00:58:08.550
and I'll never go back to sleep because I just

00:58:08.550 --> 00:58:11.429
can't get the smell out of my nose. And so, yeah,

00:58:11.550 --> 00:58:14.510
but I think even the untrained smeller would

00:58:14.510 --> 00:58:17.289
smell it. Well, I got to tell you, I thoroughly

00:58:17.289 --> 00:58:20.070
enjoy, I would love to, I mean, we're not, we

00:58:20.070 --> 00:58:22.409
got until time left on the podcast, but I mean,

00:58:22.429 --> 00:58:24.289
I really enjoy this. I mean, this is something

00:58:24.289 --> 00:58:26.170
that, and you talked about just doing the first

00:58:26.170 --> 00:58:27.750
half. I mean, if this is something you can do

00:58:27.750 --> 00:58:29.710
in the future, maybe two months down the road,

00:58:29.809 --> 00:58:32.110
I'd love to introduce a bottle every other month.

00:58:32.480 --> 00:58:34.699
and just talk about it talk about the whomever

00:58:34.699 --> 00:58:38.079
it is and and maybe talk about uh you know classes

00:58:38.079 --> 00:58:40.300
that you're taking somewhere yeah that would

00:58:40.300 --> 00:58:42.880
be super cool and a babysitter so that you're

00:58:42.880 --> 00:58:45.039
taking but classes that you're you're giving

00:58:45.039 --> 00:58:47.900
yeah yeah no absolutely and i will say that um

00:58:48.440 --> 00:58:52.599
And we'll be doing some out -of -store events

00:58:52.599 --> 00:58:55.059
soon for the three -letter grocery store that

00:58:55.059 --> 00:58:58.079
I work for. Do they have a showroom there where

00:58:58.079 --> 00:59:00.099
they display and have classes? No, it would be

00:59:00.099 --> 00:59:03.119
off -site. It would be VIP list only kind of

00:59:03.119 --> 00:59:05.739
thing. Not sponsored technically by the three

00:59:05.739 --> 00:59:08.659
-letter group? No, not sponsored by them. So

00:59:08.659 --> 00:59:11.460
just because I'm me, I do what I want. They're

00:59:11.460 --> 00:59:16.360
what I want. That's so Texas. Yeah. That is so

00:59:16.360 --> 00:59:21.539
Texas. I subscribe to that. Let me ask you some

00:59:21.539 --> 00:59:23.940
real basic retail questions you probably get

00:59:23.940 --> 00:59:26.039
all the time. Because the reality is, you know,

00:59:26.079 --> 00:59:30.219
we're neck deep in the grapes and the process

00:59:30.219 --> 00:59:32.000
and all that kind of stuff. Most people know

00:59:32.000 --> 00:59:34.900
a fraction. Yeah. And when you go to Total Wine,

00:59:35.019 --> 00:59:37.199
there's like a half a... billion bottles of every

00:59:37.199 --> 00:59:39.980
type right right so somebody walks in and they're

00:59:39.980 --> 00:59:42.360
like you know i have some friends that drink

00:59:42.360 --> 00:59:46.340
wine help me here right and they have no idea

00:59:46.340 --> 00:59:48.860
what they drink they have no idea what a good

00:59:48.860 --> 00:59:51.659
bottle should cost they have no they really have

00:59:51.659 --> 00:59:54.400
no give us give us like the the bare minimum

00:59:54.400 --> 00:59:58.679
pointers for the ignorant wine purchaser people

00:59:58.679 --> 01:00:01.889
i mean there's probably A typical wine that people

01:00:01.889 --> 01:00:04.409
would enjoy. The price range probably needs to

01:00:04.409 --> 01:00:06.730
be within blah and blah. I mean, what do you

01:00:06.730 --> 01:00:11.380
go on to help these people? That's such a broad

01:00:11.380 --> 01:00:13.900
question. It is a broad question. But you probably

01:00:13.900 --> 01:00:15.940
get it a lot. Yeah, and I start with price point.

01:00:16.000 --> 01:00:17.519
That's always the most important. I'm like, okay,

01:00:17.579 --> 01:00:19.099
well, have you seen them drink red wine or white

01:00:19.099 --> 01:00:20.840
wine? If they were like, I don't know. I'm like,

01:00:20.880 --> 01:00:22.699
okay, well, what price point? If they say $100,

01:00:22.920 --> 01:00:25.199
automatically I'm thinking a $50 bottle of red

01:00:25.199 --> 01:00:26.900
and a $50 bottle of white, right? Because it's

01:00:26.900 --> 01:00:28.539
going to meet down the middle. Yeah, but how

01:00:28.539 --> 01:00:31.280
do they even give you? They probably go, I think

01:00:31.280 --> 01:00:33.079
I want a decent wine. How much is a decent wine?

01:00:33.199 --> 01:00:36.940
$20? $40? So you always start by asking them

01:00:36.940 --> 01:00:38.619
how much they want to spend. Because the goal

01:00:38.619 --> 01:00:40.989
is to keep. in their budget. People are generally

01:00:40.989 --> 01:00:42.630
speaking, they will give me a number. If they

01:00:42.630 --> 01:00:45.150
don't, it'll be something broad like the normal

01:00:45.150 --> 01:00:46.960
amount. And I'm like, okay, well, what would

01:00:46.960 --> 01:00:49.000
you like to spend? Because if you give me any

01:00:49.000 --> 01:00:50.639
number, I'm going to give you the best bottle

01:00:50.639 --> 01:00:52.639
in that price point. I'm not going to try to

01:00:52.639 --> 01:00:55.099
upsell you. So just give me a number. And then

01:00:55.099 --> 01:00:57.400
they're generally very willing to give a number.

01:00:57.980 --> 01:01:00.099
But, you know, it just, it really depends. I'll

01:01:00.099 --> 01:01:02.219
ask what the occasion is for. Like if it's a

01:01:02.219 --> 01:01:04.579
celebration, it might, they probably need a champagne,

01:01:04.760 --> 01:01:06.920
right? And if it's, you know, they're having,

01:01:07.000 --> 01:01:08.820
they're going to a dinner party, well, then it's

01:01:08.820 --> 01:01:10.500
probably going to be a Cabernet. And if it's

01:01:10.500 --> 01:01:11.800
in the summer, then it's probably going to be

01:01:11.800 --> 01:01:13.940
like a Rose or something like that or Sauvignon

01:01:13.940 --> 01:01:15.809
Blanc or, you know. so it's always just going

01:01:15.809 --> 01:01:17.389
to depend. And if they're like, I want the best

01:01:17.389 --> 01:01:19.190
bottle I could possibly ever have in my entire

01:01:19.190 --> 01:01:22.550
life for $30. And I'm like, okay, top tier Sauvignon

01:01:22.550 --> 01:01:24.010
Blanc. I mean, you can still have a really nice

01:01:24.010 --> 01:01:25.769
bottle. It's just not going to be a red. Like,

01:01:25.769 --> 01:01:28.289
I'm not going to give you, $30 is a really hard

01:01:28.289 --> 01:01:31.650
price point, I think, to get a nice, nice bottle

01:01:31.650 --> 01:01:34.550
of red because red is, it sells higher price

01:01:34.550 --> 01:01:37.030
point, right? So. So what is a price point you

01:01:37.030 --> 01:01:40.289
would never go below to advise to somebody? Because

01:01:40.289 --> 01:01:43.250
there's a ton of 10, 12, $15 wines. No, no. Okay.

01:01:43.329 --> 01:01:46.610
So I will say, You can get wines at that price

01:01:46.610 --> 01:01:49.590
point, but you need to look at Spain, and you

01:01:49.590 --> 01:01:52.010
need to look at maybe Italy, and you need to

01:01:52.010 --> 01:01:55.929
look at a different region than Napa. I've heard

01:01:55.929 --> 01:01:59.210
the same thing because the wine industry is highly

01:01:59.210 --> 01:02:01.969
regulated over there. The U .S., there are no

01:02:01.969 --> 01:02:03.650
really regulated. They can put whatever the hell

01:02:03.650 --> 01:02:05.210
they want in that bottle. Right, and charge whatever

01:02:05.210 --> 01:02:06.849
they want. And they don't have to say what's

01:02:06.849 --> 01:02:10.099
in that bottle. I mean, the FDA does like regulate

01:02:10.099 --> 01:02:12.559
what goes in it. Like they can't put like poison

01:02:12.559 --> 01:02:14.079
in it. But you don't have to label it. Yeah,

01:02:14.119 --> 01:02:15.539
they don't have to label it. I mean, they could

01:02:15.539 --> 01:02:17.659
add the mega purple or something else as long

01:02:17.659 --> 01:02:19.340
as the FDA approves it. They don't have to tell

01:02:19.340 --> 01:02:21.840
you that. Correct. Yes. They just have to put

01:02:21.840 --> 01:02:23.800
the FDA warning of you're pregnant. You should

01:02:23.800 --> 01:02:25.300
probably not drink this. Surgeon General. That's

01:02:25.300 --> 01:02:26.920
what it is. Surgeon General. But over in Italy,

01:02:27.000 --> 01:02:29.739
they have the regions and the codes and all that

01:02:29.739 --> 01:02:33.719
stuff. And you have to meet certain criteria.

01:02:34.349 --> 01:02:36.869
In order to get those coats. Right. So like IGT

01:02:36.869 --> 01:02:39.429
is like, maybe don't go there, but if you're,

01:02:39.429 --> 01:02:42.210
you know, like DOC, DOCG, like that's in Italy,

01:02:42.309 --> 01:02:43.449
that's going to be great. You're going to get

01:02:43.449 --> 01:02:46.070
a great wine. And there are some in there, you

01:02:46.070 --> 01:02:48.909
know, and Spain is, Spain is a beautiful country

01:02:48.909 --> 01:02:51.190
to get wine out of because you can go anywhere

01:02:51.190 --> 01:02:53.369
and get an inexpensive bottle of wine. It's going

01:02:53.369 --> 01:02:56.909
to be fantastic. But, you know, it's harder to

01:02:56.909 --> 01:03:00.969
do in America because real estate, first of all,

01:03:00.969 --> 01:03:03.090
is higher than some of the properties that you're

01:03:03.090 --> 01:03:05.090
dealing with now. I mean, obviously in some of

01:03:05.090 --> 01:03:07.110
the places in Europe like Bordeaux things like

01:03:07.110 --> 01:03:08.409
that we're not talking about that we're talking

01:03:08.409 --> 01:03:10.969
about like smaller smaller areas of smaller countries

01:03:10.969 --> 01:03:14.050
and so when you deal with like Napa you're paying

01:03:14.050 --> 01:03:16.369
so much but you can go to Paso and you can get

01:03:16.369 --> 01:03:19.510
some decent wines for $30 in Paso so like if

01:03:19.510 --> 01:03:21.550
you told me hey I want you know this great wine

01:03:21.550 --> 01:03:24.489
$30 or under you know and I want it to be a cab

01:03:24.489 --> 01:03:27.219
then I would probably say hey try textbook which

01:03:27.219 --> 01:03:30.179
is a great Cabernet out of Paso Robles. So that's

01:03:30.179 --> 01:03:37.059
a fun one. If you wanted a really good red wine,

01:03:37.119 --> 01:03:39.300
but you didn't care what it was, I would probably

01:03:39.300 --> 01:03:41.559
try to walk you over and get you a Rioja. You

01:03:41.559 --> 01:03:43.179
can get a really nice Rioja. You can get a...

01:03:43.550 --> 01:03:47.909
Freaking 2004 Rioja that is so, okay, tertiary.

01:03:47.949 --> 01:03:49.269
Let's talk about that real quick. So you get

01:03:49.269 --> 01:03:50.809
your primary flavors. You're like, hmm, candy,

01:03:50.909 --> 01:03:52.989
hmm, this, this, this, right? It's like boysenberry.

01:03:53.170 --> 01:03:55.789
I taste some blackberry. I taste some blueberry.

01:03:56.030 --> 01:03:58.329
I taste some oaky, like buttery flavors or whatever.

01:03:59.190 --> 01:04:01.349
Tertiary means flavors it's picked from sitting

01:04:01.349 --> 01:04:03.389
in a bottle and it starts to pick up candied

01:04:03.389 --> 01:04:07.170
fruit, ginger, things like that. They get that

01:04:07.170 --> 01:04:08.750
from being in the bottle. In the bottle and just

01:04:08.750 --> 01:04:11.820
sitting there in time and just like, hey. I'm

01:04:11.820 --> 01:04:13.340
ready. And then you're like, no, you're not ready

01:04:13.340 --> 01:04:14.940
yet. So like later on down the road. Is that

01:04:14.940 --> 01:04:17.800
part of the maturation process where perhaps

01:04:17.800 --> 01:04:20.159
it's turning to vinegar? Nope. No, it's not going

01:04:20.159 --> 01:04:21.860
to turn to vinegar. Really well wine is not going

01:04:21.860 --> 01:04:23.219
to do that unless it's exposed to like heat.

01:04:23.780 --> 01:04:27.420
So where's that flavor coming from? So every

01:04:27.420 --> 01:04:30.380
bottle, it's got like a little bit of air and

01:04:30.380 --> 01:04:31.920
then the bottles are sitting on their sides,

01:04:31.980 --> 01:04:33.920
right? So some air is just a little bit of air

01:04:33.920 --> 01:04:36.039
is just in there and it's just maturing. And

01:04:36.039 --> 01:04:40.429
so like if you got a Rioja. 2004 Rioja, you can

01:04:40.429 --> 01:04:42.869
get one of those for $60 and you're going to

01:04:42.869 --> 01:04:46.170
taste a phenomenal wine. That's a great gift

01:04:46.170 --> 01:04:48.369
or dinner party wine right there, right? But

01:04:48.369 --> 01:04:50.469
a lot of people are like, no, it's got to be,

01:04:50.550 --> 01:04:52.889
I really want a bottle of Vouv. You're like,

01:04:52.909 --> 01:04:56.230
oh, okay. When we have our get togethers, you

01:04:56.230 --> 01:04:59.650
know, my wife, go get some wine for random people.

01:04:59.829 --> 01:05:03.409
So I'll go and I'll pick up 10 bottles of random

01:05:03.409 --> 01:05:06.369
shit. And, you know, I don't know what I'm getting

01:05:06.369 --> 01:05:10.639
really. So when I go to, You know, I spoke with

01:05:10.639 --> 01:05:12.599
those folks out there. How much do you want to

01:05:12.599 --> 01:05:14.400
spend? Well, you know, I want to spend about

01:05:14.400 --> 01:05:17.340
$150 for about 10 bottles, you know, and then

01:05:17.340 --> 01:05:19.679
just pick me out, split down the middle. Right.

01:05:19.739 --> 01:05:22.300
You know, pick, you know, maybe one or two Pinot

01:05:22.300 --> 01:05:26.539
Noirs or, you know, Cabernet, Merlot, whatever.

01:05:27.019 --> 01:05:29.980
I don't know a whole lot about Chardonnays, Pinot

01:05:29.980 --> 01:05:32.639
Grigios. That's not really my wheelhouse because

01:05:32.639 --> 01:05:35.340
the only time I've really ever really enjoyed

01:05:35.340 --> 01:05:38.250
those was when I was slamming them. Oh, okay.

01:05:38.269 --> 01:05:39.909
You don't enjoy them that way. So you never tasted

01:05:39.909 --> 01:05:42.469
it. You know, I mean, I worked at the Four Seasons

01:05:42.469 --> 01:05:46.190
Resort, and they had a lot of wine tastings,

01:05:46.190 --> 01:05:48.849
and I never got into it. But I found that they

01:05:48.849 --> 01:05:50.449
give you a quick buzz if you drink them fast.

01:05:50.789 --> 01:05:53.349
A lot of alcoholic drinks, too. Yeah, but they

01:05:53.349 --> 01:05:55.969
were so refreshing because they're cold. So it's

01:05:55.969 --> 01:05:58.989
a little different. When you slam the warmer

01:05:58.989 --> 01:06:04.690
red wines, it's just different. It is. Again,

01:06:04.769 --> 01:06:07.349
I'm super excited that you came out and you gave

01:06:07.349 --> 01:06:10.409
us another shot. And it is perfect that we talked

01:06:10.409 --> 01:06:12.510
about one. Yeah, I think so. I think the three

01:06:12.510 --> 01:06:17.429
was off the frickin' hook. Yeah. And Chris, I

01:06:17.429 --> 01:06:20.650
really want you to jump on the... the, uh, the

01:06:20.650 --> 01:06:22.250
infinity bottle. You guys got to like chuck out

01:06:22.250 --> 01:06:24.550
of here. You got time for, to stay. We can stay

01:06:24.550 --> 01:06:27.150
for a second. Um, but can I, can I say, do we

01:06:27.150 --> 01:06:29.190
have, you got as much time as you want. Okay.

01:06:29.230 --> 01:06:31.690
So real quick, we were talking earlier about

01:06:31.690 --> 01:06:33.670
how everything is so Texas and we brought it

01:06:33.670 --> 01:06:35.349
back. I just, there's one other thing I have

01:06:35.349 --> 01:06:36.849
to touch on before I have to get out. Cause I

01:06:36.849 --> 01:06:38.969
have to get it out of my system and I just want

01:06:38.969 --> 01:06:41.650
to talk about. how Tesla should not be in Texas.

01:06:43.730 --> 01:06:46.469
I agree with this. And I want to emphasize, I

01:06:46.469 --> 01:06:48.869
just, the car itself and everybody who drives

01:06:48.869 --> 01:06:50.949
one. And I want to say, if you drive a cyber

01:06:50.949 --> 01:06:53.769
truck, you're even the worst version of that

01:06:53.769 --> 01:06:56.409
person. And it's not anything to do with Elon

01:06:56.409 --> 01:06:58.090
Musk. I could care less what you think about

01:06:58.090 --> 01:06:59.630
him because I'm not a political person. So I'm

01:06:59.630 --> 01:07:01.909
like, whatever, I don't care. What I do care

01:07:01.909 --> 01:07:05.050
about is how you can't drive ever. You don't

01:07:05.050 --> 01:07:07.369
know where you're going ever. You don't use your

01:07:07.369 --> 01:07:11.090
blinker ever. I hate them all. And I'm a loving

01:07:11.090 --> 01:07:14.250
person, but I hate Tesla drivers. There we go.

01:07:14.369 --> 01:07:16.349
Especially with the stickers on there, the student

01:07:16.349 --> 01:07:20.190
driver. That's even the worst. It's like announcing,

01:07:20.449 --> 01:07:23.570
not only am I a dipshit for driving this, but

01:07:23.570 --> 01:07:27.059
I'm a dipshit. Yeah. I can't. Now I can't drive.

01:07:27.119 --> 01:07:29.440
Now I got a license to not drive. That's like

01:07:29.440 --> 01:07:31.179
one of the worst things ever. I just feel like

01:07:31.179 --> 01:07:33.079
they should give the person behind them like

01:07:33.079 --> 01:07:35.480
a little remote control so that you could move

01:07:35.480 --> 01:07:37.159
them out of your way and then just be like, all

01:07:37.159 --> 01:07:39.119
right, bye. You know, because they're just, they're

01:07:39.119 --> 01:07:40.940
always. Change lanes off to the side. Right.

01:07:40.960 --> 01:07:43.800
Or in a ditch, you know, whatever. I just, I

01:07:43.800 --> 01:07:45.719
can't with them and I don't like them and they're

01:07:45.719 --> 01:07:47.659
everywhere and they have taken over everywhere

01:07:47.659 --> 01:07:50.460
and everywhere I go. And they've got a Wi -Fi

01:07:50.460 --> 01:07:53.320
footprint. We should be able to track them using

01:07:53.320 --> 01:07:57.199
our, in -car app and just say, hey, this person

01:07:57.199 --> 01:08:00.400
drives horribly. I drive all day and I deal with

01:08:00.400 --> 01:08:03.900
them here in Frisco. I think Tesla is probably

01:08:03.900 --> 01:08:06.519
the most numerous car in Frisco at this point.

01:08:06.579 --> 01:08:09.219
There's so many of them. They're in Salina as

01:08:09.219 --> 01:08:11.780
well. I'm not saying 100 % of the drivers are

01:08:11.780 --> 01:08:14.380
like that, but a high majority of the drivers

01:08:14.380 --> 01:08:17.960
of Tesla are either slow, they don't change lanes

01:08:17.960 --> 01:08:19.960
correctly, or they just don't know what they're

01:08:19.960 --> 01:08:22.680
doing. Or they're on their phone. I've told these

01:08:22.680 --> 01:08:25.180
guys. Because I'm up high and I can look. Yep.

01:08:25.260 --> 01:08:28.680
It's the adults on the phones. Yeah. Not the

01:08:28.680 --> 01:08:30.979
kids. Yep. The teenagers driving their car are

01:08:30.979 --> 01:08:32.979
driving their car because they're paying attention.

01:08:33.840 --> 01:08:37.180
The adults are on their phones texting. what

01:08:37.180 --> 01:08:38.399
they're driving with their knees and they're

01:08:38.399 --> 01:08:40.579
texting and shit like that. I just have a request.

01:08:40.779 --> 01:08:44.119
So if you listen to this and you drive a Tesla

01:08:44.119 --> 01:08:46.659
Cybertruck, if you drove backwards, I could actually

01:08:46.659 --> 01:08:48.720
drive over you. You'd be helping both of us out

01:08:48.720 --> 01:08:51.060
because I drive a lifted Jeep and it would be

01:08:51.060 --> 01:08:53.619
like nothing. You're like a shoehorn. I just

01:08:53.619 --> 01:08:56.180
go flying over you. Like a ramp. Oh my God, it'd

01:08:56.180 --> 01:08:59.380
be so great. I could drive like I want to. I

01:08:59.380 --> 01:09:02.000
know the speed limit and I go the speed limit

01:09:02.000 --> 01:09:04.090
or above, not under. But it's got to be worse

01:09:04.090 --> 01:09:06.229
in California. Aren't there even more Teslas

01:09:06.229 --> 01:09:08.210
in California? How? How could there be any more

01:09:08.210 --> 01:09:09.430
than there are in our neighborhoods? I think

01:09:09.430 --> 01:09:12.789
there's nothing but Teslas in California. Oh

01:09:12.789 --> 01:09:14.670
my God, I don't know. Are they in Europe? I do

01:09:14.670 --> 01:09:18.210
have a question. So can you Google, who all was

01:09:18.210 --> 01:09:20.649
it that lost power? Was it Italy and Spain that

01:09:20.649 --> 01:09:23.250
lost power for like a day or more or whatever?

01:09:23.529 --> 01:09:27.579
Did the Teslas go down? I'm sure they did. Did

01:09:27.579 --> 01:09:30.100
they? Yeah, if they didn't get charged overnight.

01:09:30.380 --> 01:09:33.359
Okay, so it's a hazard to people's health to

01:09:33.359 --> 01:09:35.260
drive these, but I'm just saying a couple of

01:09:35.260 --> 01:09:36.939
power outages and we'd be out. We wouldn't have

01:09:36.939 --> 01:09:38.079
to worry about them anymore. Well, that's kind

01:09:38.079 --> 01:09:40.380
of the thing. When you see these hurricanes come

01:09:40.380 --> 01:09:43.140
into town and they wipe out the electrical power

01:09:43.140 --> 01:09:45.899
for a week, two weeks, you're like, well, you

01:09:45.899 --> 01:09:47.760
want us to evacuate. You want us to leave, but

01:09:47.760 --> 01:09:50.279
I can't. I can make it 100 miles and then I'm

01:09:50.279 --> 01:09:52.689
dead on the side of the road. We had one that

01:09:52.689 --> 01:09:56.210
his phone updated. He goes to my gym that I teach

01:09:56.210 --> 01:10:00.210
at and at five and six in the morning when nobody's

01:10:00.210 --> 01:10:02.250
awake. Anyways, he comes in there and he's freaking

01:10:02.250 --> 01:10:04.829
out because his phone needs this update and it's

01:10:04.829 --> 01:10:07.470
about to die, but he can't get into his Tesla

01:10:07.470 --> 01:10:10.329
without his phone. And I'm like. Okay, come on.

01:10:10.449 --> 01:10:12.550
You know what wouldn't happen if you had a normal

01:10:12.550 --> 01:10:15.289
vehicle? You'd have a freaking key. Like, oh

01:10:15.289 --> 01:10:17.989
my God. For real, it doesn't come with a key?

01:10:18.090 --> 01:10:20.970
It has to. It has a card that you can use as

01:10:20.970 --> 01:10:23.510
a key, but they don't carry it in there. It's

01:10:23.510 --> 01:10:25.550
outside of your phone. His excuse was it's in

01:10:25.550 --> 01:10:27.630
his wallet, and his wallet's in his car. And

01:10:27.630 --> 01:10:28.930
I was like, well, that doesn't seem like that's

01:10:28.930 --> 01:10:30.649
the smartest decision you've made. I'm not ready

01:10:30.649 --> 01:10:33.609
for all that technology. I'm just not. I mean,

01:10:33.630 --> 01:10:36.670
come on. I think it just ramps us up and sets

01:10:36.670 --> 01:10:38.869
us up for fail. There's a lot of failure points

01:10:38.869 --> 01:10:40.750
along that line. There really are. I've seen

01:10:40.750 --> 01:10:42.350
iRobot. I know how this ends. I think I said

01:10:42.350 --> 01:10:44.649
that last episode, too. So the Teslas are going

01:10:44.649 --> 01:10:46.810
to kill us all. Yeah, Will Smith. Yes. Take my

01:10:46.810 --> 01:10:50.600
Tesla out of your mouth. The car is going to

01:10:50.600 --> 01:10:54.500
become alive. Like Carrie. Who's the car that

01:10:54.500 --> 01:10:56.420
comes alive and kills everybody? It's not Carrie.

01:10:56.560 --> 01:10:59.899
It's Christine. I always get it wrong. I thought

01:10:59.899 --> 01:11:02.119
it was like Bumblebee from Transformers. That

01:11:02.119 --> 01:11:04.460
was cool. All right. Well, did you get it all

01:11:04.460 --> 01:11:06.180
out? I got it out. I feel better. Thank you.

01:11:06.239 --> 01:11:09.920
It was because of the trip coming up. Coit. One

01:11:09.920 --> 01:11:12.939
lane. So was the one lane shut down because somebody?

01:11:13.520 --> 01:11:15.399
Didn't charge their vehicle? It wasn't shut down.

01:11:15.579 --> 01:11:18.100
It was just going really slow because this person

01:11:18.100 --> 01:11:23.239
thought that the 55 was really 35. I don't know.

01:11:23.460 --> 01:11:26.739
Why do they drive so slow? I don't know. They're

01:11:26.739 --> 01:11:28.420
not in a hurry to get home. That's what it is.

01:11:28.579 --> 01:11:31.859
They are the fastest cars on the road. I know.

01:11:31.939 --> 01:11:34.500
There is literally not a car that can go faster.

01:11:34.600 --> 01:11:36.979
They've even done drag races with these cars.

01:11:37.180 --> 01:11:40.579
They are lightning fast. And I've never actually

01:11:40.579 --> 01:11:43.899
seen... any of them drive that way they don't

01:11:43.899 --> 01:11:46.220
think there are inhibitors on them i mean it's

01:11:46.220 --> 01:11:48.640
the driver like you see muscle cars and they're

01:11:48.640 --> 01:11:50.939
like and it goes as fast as they can as loud

01:11:50.939 --> 01:11:54.079
as they can and i've never tesla's like they

01:11:54.079 --> 01:11:57.279
would blow them out of the water and i've never

01:11:57.279 --> 01:11:59.720
seen one drive that way you think there'd be

01:11:59.720 --> 01:12:01.880
one person who'd be like yeah i'm gonna take

01:12:01.880 --> 01:12:04.699
my tesla and i'm gonna rag you guys they don't

01:12:04.699 --> 01:12:08.399
ever it's strange all right well there you have

01:12:08.399 --> 01:12:11.140
it I think we all got it out of our system. It's

01:12:11.140 --> 01:12:14.300
like therapy. A beautiful bottle of wine. Yeah,

01:12:14.300 --> 01:12:16.699
thank you. Yeah, thanks. This was a treat. Do

01:12:16.699 --> 01:12:18.840
you have any shout -outs for your workout group?

01:12:19.279 --> 01:12:22.819
I will say to my High Rocks gals, hello, hello.

01:12:22.899 --> 01:12:25.119
I know they're going to be listening. And I will

01:12:25.119 --> 01:12:27.899
say also, if you want to follow me, I am ThatSom

01:12:27.899 --> 01:12:32.140
from Texas. That, S -O -M -M, from Texas. Awesome.

01:12:32.239 --> 01:12:34.460
There you go. And Chris, pleasure meeting you.

01:12:34.500 --> 01:12:36.260
Thanks for coming on the podcast as well. Yeah,

01:12:36.279 --> 01:12:37.880
thanks for having me. Yeah, we'll have to give

01:12:37.880 --> 01:12:40.479
you a big boy cup next time. Yeah, or she just

01:12:40.479 --> 01:12:43.319
doesn't drink mine next time. Get your own bottle.

01:12:43.920 --> 01:12:47.600
We'll keep a closer eye on that next time. All

01:12:47.600 --> 01:12:48.920
right, well, it's the first half of the Dudes

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Like Us podcast, September 2nd. Check us out,

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