Boom. Oh, wow. Tuesday? Tuesday. Check, check,
one, two. Today was my first day of work for
the new school year. Hey, exciting. How'd that
go? It was a five -hour meeting, so it was boring.
No kids, that's right. Yeah, no kids. Five hours,
huh? Yeah. It was eight. Did they feed you? Yeah,
Chick -fil -A. They really did. They pumped you
up with a bunch of poison. No, it was good stuff.
I bet it was tasty. Chick -fil -A is not poison.
I disagree. A bunch of fake stuff. Actually,
there's two fake things in there. There's a real
chicken in there. Somewhere. No. If you look
at all the ingredients, all of them are natural
except for two. Bill Gates' own chickens just
jacked with vaccines. I disagree. No. It may,
may not. I don't know. We'll never know. I don't
think there's anything wrong with Chick -fil
-A. Unless you have it every day. No, every time
I've gone there, I enjoyed it. There's nothing
wrong, wrong with it as far as tastes go. I don't
know if, you know, when you kind of gravitate
towards healthy food, I don't know if that's
the right choice. Well, you get to grill stuff.
God, it doesn't matter what you do. Because if
you grill it, then you're like, oh, well, the
bird marks are cancerous. It's carcinogenic.
You can't freaking win. You know? Oh, the vinegar's
bad. The salt's bad. It's just like, man, where
do you just stick a freaking fork in it? Well,
for some people, the gluten's bad. You know,
whatever. All right, so it says 55 ingredients
in the Chick -fil -A sandwich, but the reality
is that's in every fast food sandwich. Well,
I mean, look at it. It's the bun. It's half of
it. It's chicken breast, salt, MSG, sugar, spices.
There's probably more spices than the 55, right?
Well, I mean, this kind of ties into RFK's thing
in court today with the Senate or the Congress
where he's proposing the school lunches. And
I'm sorry, that's not it. He was saying that
the people that are on welfare, that they're
not allowed to buy sugary drinks. The United
States citizens shouldn't be paying for this
person to be buying sugary substance to eat or
drink. Correct. Because it's just like, why?
You know, that doesn't make sense. Because he's
like, well, my department then pays for them
when they're on diabetes and then their health
is failing. Yeah, and it does make sense. And
we're supposed to dress for success, so you've
got to pound that. And good for him. And he's
getting pushed back. He is getting pushed back.
But the thing is that even though I'm against
all the chemicals they put in our foods, including
this Chick -fil -A stuff, even though everyone
fights me on it, but at the end of the day, this
shit's bad for you. And I know it's argumentative.
Show me proof. Whatever. I don't care. You have
to have it in there. It's like an accepted thing
where you – because to have all the food on the
shelves is going to go bad. I mean, yeah, we
got to have rubber in our bread. We got to have
all that shit in our bread to make it last longer.
Unless we go back to the regional stores supported
by regional farms. Yeah. So, I mean, that's it.
So, look, if you want – these companies to stay
in business so that you can get your food, well,
then you know what? I think there's certain things
like the dyes. Find another thing, beet juice,
whatever, cherry juice, to get your color. It
may not be as vibrant. There's certain things
they can definitely remove that should never
have been in there to begin with. Then there
are other things, like you mentioned, Sean, that
are necessary for the agricultural environment
that we have. Right. You know, my tax dollars
shouldn't be funding someone else's cake supply
or soda supply. I agree with that. But I think
every individual has the right to eat and drink
whatever they want. Absolutely. You know, if
you want it, that's fine. I'm just not going
to pay for it out of my tax dollars and your
food stamps. Right. And by the way. This is the
Dudes Like Us podcast. It is. So it is. It's
the first half of August 5th. Oh my God. I know.
Not only is it August, we're only a week into
it. Man, I was looking at the calendar and I'm
thinking, um, shit. Christmas is almost here.
Yeah, Christmas is here. Well, I was thinking
Halloween. Halloween candy's already out. Because,
you know, I shared with Dudes Like Us, I'm Sean.
I'm Paul. And I'm Jeff. And we just can't shut
the fuck up. But I was looking at, I had, for
those folks out there that haven't been listening
to the podcast your first time, we are a bunch
of dudes that are dorks, and we thought it would
be cool to record ourselves babbling incoherently
just about anything. And we've been doing it
for five years. And they just got a taste of
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Or I think we're going to give everybody Jeff's
number. There you go. I ignore all phone numbers.
I know what they are. Don't call the phone number.
I do. It drives my wife nuts. Well, what if it's
somebody? It never is. I'll tell you what. I'll
put my phone number. It never is somebody. Well,
it's a scam. Well, not a scam, but it's a call
center. Solicitation. Your auto warranty's up.
Right. Or you need a new roof or whatever it
is. Right. It's something. And we're getting
a lot of that lately with the storm season being
here. Yeah. So we were talking about food, and
I kind of went off on the RFK thing, and then
we were talking about the food. Where was I just
at? Yeah, you were taking a shot at Chick -fil
-A. Well, look, I'm taking a shot. I'm just giving
you a hard time. It's the industry, you know,
and you've got to pick your battles. You know,
either you ingest this stuff and you know it's
bad for you and you know it's going to make you
fat and you know it's going to ultimately kill
you, but you're like, what the fuck? We're going
to die of hunger if we can't be dependent on
the farm stuff. Well, it's also a choice to eat
that food. I mean, my wife and I have... consciously
made the decision to try to not eat the processed
stuff. I couldn't tell you the last time I bought
anything frozen, outside of frozen corn. Because
I think some of that frozen stuff and the canned
stuff is the most processed. If you look for
those cans of corn they sell at Walmart, that
is made in China. The can, probably. No, the
product in the can. It says the corn, made in
China. That's crazy. To think that we here in
the United States are getting our corn in China.
But look, here's a good rule of thumb. And I
may have mentioned this on some of the prior
podcasts. But if you want to try to take a stab
at eating healthy, the goal is stay out of the
middle of the supermarket. Shop only on the perimeter.
Because if you go into the center where you have
the frozen foods, all frozen foods are bad. That
canned shit. Canned foods, there's all kinds
of sulfites. What about just chicken breasts?
I buy frozen chicken breasts. That's on the outside.
Yeah, but they're on the outside. Oh, you were
saying anything frozen is bad. No, no, no. No,
no, no. I meant like they have the frozen sections
in the middle because they got the frozen pot
pies, the turkey pot pies. Oh, yeah, yeah. Like
the lean kazees and all that shit, right? The
hungry man. Hungry man. Yeah, and all the canned
meats that we could have seriously died that
day when we decided to do that. Yeah, no shit.
That's your house? I think we were close. I felt
the arteries hardening. So those folks that don't
know, we went over to Paul's house. We had some
passionate program. We were like, oh, let's go
to the store and get all canned foods and see
what's going on. Canned meat, specifically. Yeah,
we said, let's have a canned meat night. It was
endless. It was disgusting. Yes. I mean, part
of it was good. I was kind of like, oh. But then
you just feel like, God. I feel like David Spade
from Chris Farley movie, The Black Shave. Oh,
no, what is the other one? Tommy Boy. Oh, I can
hear you getting fatter. That's the way I felt
pounding down that canned meat. Yeah, it was
gross. Yeah, it was bad. We had some bad stuff.
I don't think we had tuna. If I can't food, I'll
eat tuna. I'll eat canned tuna. I'll eat sardines.
But once you start getting it and spam, that's
the other one. I'm freaking out about even like
canned tuna. I mean, I used to be a proponent
of eating that. And now I won't because they're
saying there's high levels of mercury in there.
It's always been that way. High levels of mercury.
They said you should limit your canned tuna intake
by to a certain number of cans a week. So that's
not a problem because I eat one like every six
months. Yeah. Tuna fish. Yeah. Honestly, I really
enjoy Spam. I had a can of it this week. You
ate the whole can? That's like eight servings.
Really? You get like a little cube of it? It
is. I sliced it up and I put four slices per
sandwich. And I had four or five sandwiches.
So what is that? I don't know. Yeah, there's
a lot of servings in that little can. That's
bullshit. I got the low salt one for you. I could
literally eat the whole can. I know. I mean,
it's so easy. I almost did, and I was looking.
I was like, wow, there's like seven or eight
servings in here. It's ridiculous. So what am
I supposed to do? Compliment this spam with some
other sort of protein? Slice it into seven, and
you have one slice. Yes. That's it. That's your
meal for the day. Plus lettuce, tomatoes, and
cheese. Maybe a steak. I think I had four sandwiches
of four slices each, so 16 slices. Probably white
bread. Hell, white bread is bleached flour. It's
frustrating because my brain works like that.
It's kind of like, you know, you try to eat healthy.
Oh, white bread's healthy for you. Well, no,
it's not. You're using bleached flour. It's not
good for you. Wheat bread. Oh, wheat bread. Seven
grain bread. It's supposed to be great for you.
Well, it turns out that's not fucking great.
No, it's bleached wheat bread. Well, they use
different types of seed oils to keep it. I mean,
it's just, look, and I know you guys get sick
of me saying it. What's going on with my chair?
I feel like I'm reaching here. I don't know.
Did your hemorrhoid go away? So you're not as
swollen down there? No, thankfully. You know,
I don't have those types of hemorrhoids. I do
have hemorrhoids maybe once or twice a year.
The external kind? The big bulbous cauliflower
-y kind? I don't even really know. They're kind
of, I don't know. It's uncomfortable maybe once
or twice a year, but it doesn't last very long.
Was it after, like, a really hard shit trying
to push it out? No, no, no. Well, Paul coached
me on this, and I got to tell you. No, do share.
On hemorrhoids? No, no. Because, look, I was
suffering for an extended period for, like, a
whole summer or something. I don't recall what
period it was, but, you know, I was kind of like,
I was explaining. I was like, fuck, man, this
sucks. And then Paul's like, why don't you just
get one of those suppository and just be done
with it? And I was like, what? What are you talking
about? I don't remember this. What do you mean
a suppository? What do you mean? It's a pill
you show up your ass. For hemorrhoids? Yes. Oh
yeah, preparation age. Dude, you told me. No.
I've never heard of a pill. Now I know about
the ointment. The lube you were about to say.
Maybe you weren't referring to the suppository.
I think I mentioned the suppository. Yeah. Well,
I know Paul did too, but my point is I did it.
Did it keep flying out? It actually did. It bothered
me. It scarred me for a while. You blow it off
and put it back up there? First of all, it's
odd to put a suppository up your bottom. Let's
just be weird. It's not normal. And when I was
doing it, I was kind of fighting through it.
My butthole was kind of like, no, man, this is
out only. Out only. Then you had to keep your
finger on it? Get a little hock to it. And so
I get it in there. I'm like, all right, fine.
Then all of a sudden, my butt's like. And it
was like, bloop, wet in the water. I was like,
are you fucking kidding me? You got to fish it
out. Now I got a new one out of the package.
And I put it in there. And I was like, all right.
So now I'm contorted in the bathroom. Now I'm
not sitting on the toilet anymore. Do you have
like a leg hiked up on the thing? I did. Oh,
it's just weird. And then Tara walked in. Oh,
my God. The door's locked. And I shoved that
thing in there. And my butt's like, I won't quit
you. And I'm holding it in. And it's just, anyway.
So it worked. And then, you know... Are they
lubed? Or is it all dry and like... It's not
like a... It's not a... Sorry, I'm getting...
It's not a pine cone. I'm getting a migraine.
I don't know. I've never done this. Wow. I would
think they'd have some kind of lubricant or something.
Jesus. Welcome to the podcast. We're not even
toasty yet. It's downhill from here. Painful.
Well, we did. I took today off because we ended
up going down to the blendery, and I think we're
going to talk more in depth about the blendery
experience when we have a representative here.
I think his name is Andy. Andy Daniels or something
like that. I feel kind of odd not saying his
name correctly, so let me look in here real quick.
Andy Ziegler. The whiskey blendery. Yeah, we
weren't even close. Yeah, not even close. But
I'll tell you what, when we went there, so first
of all, Jackie Mack, thank you, shout out to
Jackie Mack for getting us hooked up. She got
us some slots to do some judging for a batch
of 30 different blends. And I didn't know this
about the blendery. So I was... Thinking it was
kind of like Oak and Eden where they get some
NGP shit and they put some different flavors
on that rye, mix this, a little of that, a little
of this. They put a concoction and there's your
elixir. You got it. Move on. No, it's not like
that. I will say it's kind of like Rare Character.
Of course, Andy was kind of like, no, it's not
like Rare Character. But it kind of is. They
procure the barrels, all right? But instead of
serving that one barrel, they break it down and
they mix them with other. barrels right so that's
what they they call it the blender and of course
andy will go and is that what you understood
too yeah i think i think his focus is more creating
an environment where people have uh involvement
uh and a hand in in creating some of the the
blends i mean they're the experts they clearly
blend them but they also it's almost like you
know it's like build a bear it's like build a
bourbon right and they and they have these things
where people come in and and they give you guidelines
they're kind of like i kind of like this mash
bill and they will take that mash bill and be
like, all right, let's see. And they kind of
take a look at the barrels that they have, the
current mash bill, and then they blend them up.
That's who we met with, Andy Ziegler. We saw
Richard Blum. We saw Jerry Smith. We saw Tim
Hewles, the whole team up there. They were all
really great. We had such a great time. And they
broke us up into, we had 30 different people
that had. had their blends. And so they had 375
milliliter bottles. And they broke us up into
groups and I think we had about 6 groups of 5
or 7 groups of 4 or something like that. Whatever,
something like that. And each group had 6 samples
and a piece of paper and you'd write and you'd
figure it out. I'll tell you what, it was cool.
Because first of all, most of the blends were
pretty good. I mean, they really were. I mean,
they would score. They would not score bad. I
mean, there was one or two that was kind of like
iffy, but it was weird. It's because when we
first started out. And I tasted one of them.
I was making my little notations. And I was like,
this one is not going to be picked. And then
I ended up shaking it. And it stood out a little
bit longer. And I tasted about maybe 10 minutes
later. And I was like, holy shit, this thing
just moved up in the flavor. Yeah, it was difficult
from that perspective. But in each station, only
two could advance. Correct. They're doing multiple
rounds of this. And two could advance from each
station. And the way it started, though, is there
are teams of four people. that get together in
a competition and they have a certain time limit
and they have to create a blend, right? They're
mixing different things and they're all trying
it and then they eventually go with their blend
and then they submit it to the competition. It's
$2 ,000 to enter, by the way. Yeah, it's not
cheap. $2 ,000 or $1 ,000? I think it's $2 ,000.
And they get, but it all goes to a great, he
said the foundation goes to, I forget exactly
who it was, it was displacing sex trafficked
women in our local areas. Right. I may do some
volunteer work for those guys because what they're
doing is they're helping build homes and fixing
up homes and stuff. So I could probably volunteer
some time. So is this a place that we can go
out there without having to join their group?
I was kind of fuzzy on their membership because
I know there's a membership, but I don't know
what that all entails. I know you can go out
there and do the distillery or whatever. It's
not a distillery. What does that say there? It's
a tasting event. A tasting event. Look, honestly,
I don't know a whole lot about it. We're kind
of walking in there blind, and by the time I
left there, I was a little seasoned. Well, when
Andy comes on, we'll ask him these questions.
Yeah, but it was good. We had a great experience.
Thank you, Jackie Mack, for hooking us up with
that, and I look forward to the next venture
out there. All right. The last thing I'll say
about it is people bring, like Sean was saying,
a certain mash bill to them, right? Or they bring
their preferences. Like, I want something that
has this and this and this, and I really appreciate
that bourbon that has these notes and stuff.
And they will create a bourbon for you. Yeah.
You know what I mean? I like orange Fanta soda
with some cherries. I like buttercream. Yeah.
No, seriously. They will. We'll get some Frey
Ranch with 100 % wheat. You're in. Yeah, it's
interesting. It's very unique what they're doing
over there. Oh, speaking of that, we've got the
Oregon Spirits. We've got to revisit that, by
the way. Oh, yeah, we do. Yeah, I've got to tell
you, because, I mean, the first time it was tasting
like grass, clippings, and sampling that at Total
Wine last week, I was kind of, huh, there's some
similarities to that Frey Ranch 100 % wheat.
We'll have to remember to add that to the...
Dig that out. Yeah, pull it out to the front.
It's over here in the cabinet over here. The
do -not -go zone. What do they call that? In
Sweden, they have the no -go zone. Yeah, the
no -go zone. We have a no -go zone where we have
all the misfits of whiskeys from Paul's first
run. Speaking of Sweden, it's not exactly Sweden,
but did you hear about this Denmark Zoo? What
they've done? They posted on Facebook. that they
are requesting people to donate their pets so
that they can feed it to their tigers and lions.
Yes, I saw the headline. I didn't realize that
that's what they were doing. Yes, they're asking
for pets to feed their... Do they have to be
dead? Predator, no. They'll euthanize them before
they throw them in the cage, but they want healthy...
non -sick animals. That is horrific. Are these
animals that you're going to put your dog down?
From what I understand, they're not looking for
dogs and cats. They're looking for rodents. Well,
the guinea pigs, the hamsters, the mice, the
rabbit. Also, small horses. Chickens. Small horses.
Yes, and chickens. But not sickly dying ones.
Correct. They want to be healthy because they're
going to feed them, right? They don't want to...
that's riddled in cancer that the cat's going
to eat, right? Yeah, but sometimes those are
the best tasting. Could be. So they're asking
these people to donate their perfectly healthy
pets. I don't know how I feel about that. Yeah,
how is it going over? And they don't have to
be necessarily pets. I'm just like, hey, look,
man, well, people have farms, and they're kind
of like, well, fuck, man, I have like 50 pigs,
okay? I would love to donate 20 of these pigs
to the cause. I'm not emotionally attached to
them. Charlotte's Web? What is the name of the
piglet? You know, the Charlotte's Web. I don't
know. I don't know. Piglet. Is that his name?
That's Winnie the Pooh, isn't it? Yeah. Yeah,
might be. So anyway, there's a bunch of folks
up in arms about this. And, you know, if you're
like in your situation, but if you have like
your kids have a rabbit, you're just like, I'm
done with the rabbit. I'm just going to take
it and tell the kids it died and then submit
it to the zoo and say, here you go. Yeah. And
then, you know. I guess if they're pulling from
a broad enough group of people that would, you
know, slightly, some would be interested, they
can get enough to feed their animals. Are they
trying to save money? I don't know what they're,
probably. Is the zoo struggling? I don't know.
I don't know. I mean, possibly. Donate her horse.
So, yeah, so you can give them a horse as well.
Wow. So is this like Jurassic Park where you
just drop off the pet and they just hook it up
to a... I don't know, man. Or do you watch them
get devoured? Yeah. No, they have a wood chipper
out front. Like a viewing room? Yeah, they have
a wood chipper in front. You drive through, throw
it through the window. Guinea pig says, thank
you. Whatever in Danish. Thank you. Yes. Danke.
Danke, Shane. That's German. I don't know. Could
be the same. Yeah, I don't see that being very
popular. Yeah. And look, shout out to them for
thinking outside the box. And there are some
people out there that, you know, look, farmers
don't have, you know, when you around animals
like that, I mean, think about who does the congressman
or the senator that shot her dog, you know, because
it was Christine Owen. My point about even bringing
that up is that some farm animals like that,
even though you're a farm animal and you like
them, it doesn't mean that you're emotionally
attached to them. They're not germane or they're
not relevant to your day -to -day thing. I get
it, but there may be some people out there that
be like, hey, look, I'm going to donate. Instead
of donating money, I'm going to give you my cat.
I'm going to give you 10 pigs. Well, this zoo
looks like it's had quite the controversy over
the last decade. So in 2014, it killed a healthy
young giraffe named Marius because his genes
were already well represented among the captive
giraffes. His genes? Yes, his blue genes. So
they killed it, autopsied it, and then fed it
to the cats. And then a few weeks later, they
killed four of those lions because they didn't
want them to have babies. It says two cubs and
their parents. The zoo said the lions were killed
to prevent the male lion from breeding with his
daughters and prevent a newly arrived young male
lion from attacking the cubs. Well, there's things
they have to do to manage the zoo. Why don't
they cut their nuts off instead? Or move those
animals somewhere else. That's the next paragraph
is the European zoos allow them to breed to keep
more of a natural lifestyle for the kids. Right.
As opposed to cutting their nuts off. Right.
So they'd rather kill them than... Yeah. That's
more natural. Yeah. Well, whatever. You know
what? I'm not a zoologist or a zookeeper. I'm
a zoo connoisseur. Right. I'm not. I'm not a
zoo steward. So it's kind of like the complaint
that people have about hunting deer and hunting
elk and stuff. I mean, there's game management
involved in that, and there's a very... highly
scientific reason for what they do maybe this
kind of follows in that same vein well maybe
but i would think that they could go hey are
there any other zoos out there who need a couple
lions and maybe maybe they they did put that
notice out there and nobody or hey is there a
potential to release them into the wild well
i mean we're crossing that line across uh many
different borders i mean we're starting to take
human corpses and plant them as Fertilizer. Yeah.
You're allowed to do that in California, I think
Oregon. Yeah. Washington. They have that at Lowe's.
It's not the same, but it's kind of the same.
Do they grind them up, or do you just bury the
body in your shrubs? I'm not really sure how
that works. I'm thinking either way, that's kind
of creepy. A little weird. Yeah, you're able
to do that. If I die, I'd be like, yeah, I want
to be ground up or whatever they do to it. I
don't know if I'd want to be ground up. I mean,
that's just kind of... You're not going to feel
it. It doesn't matter. I mean, can you imagine
the person that has to do it? Well, just like
the... What's your job? Well, just like the funeral
guy. What do they call those guys? The mortician.
Yeah, I mean, you get these dead bodies and you're
cleaning them up and... Embalming them. You're
draining all of their fluids. Like Quincy? Well,
no, he was an autopsy. He was a coroner. These
are the morticians, so like when my dad died,
they... We didn't embalm him, so we cremated
him, so they didn't have to do that. But, you
know, they drain all the fluids, and they put
the formaldehyde or whatever they use to embalm
the fluid in the bodies, right? Yeah. And then
they repair faces if there's been gunshot wounds
or anything like that, so they have to repair
their face, put makeup on them, make them look
presentable. So if there can be an open casket
and stuff like that, sometimes you can't. Right.
But, you know, they'll get them all made up so
they look as normal as possible. Put it that
way. I would imagine the people that are willing
to prepare these bodies for people's fertilizer,
I mean, they... It's probably just like a gynecologist
looks at a vagina. It's just like, yeah, whatever.
Yep. Totally. Unless it's just a huge mess down
there. You're just like, wow. What scenario would
that be, Jeff? I'm sure they're not all pretty,
so I'm just saying. And they say that just like...
God, what do you have going down there? Good
Lord. What happened to you? What happened to
you? I would probably pick a new doctor. It's
humid. It's humid? God, it's so impossibly moist.
Yeah. But it kind of goes in. Do you still have
your hymen? Okay. Wow. Okay. Moving right along.
But that kind of goes into. That's a good start.
Yeah. But it kind of goes into, because I know
another topic we've talked about, and we've talked
about in the past, or sometimes. We all have
pets at one time in our life, and sometimes we,
as they get old or sick, or sometimes they just
run out into the street and die. But you have
to take care of your pets and euthanize them.
And the loss of a family member, some folks are
more attached to their pets than others, and
it's a difficult process to go through. Oh, yeah.
For sure. I mean, we've all gone through that.
I've gone through, what, two, three dogs. Yeah,
we had a couple. My first one, Julie took because
I had to go to work. But Julie took Darla and
put her down. But Lady, the last one, we took
her. That was a last -minute thing, right? Yeah.
So she went downhill really fast, and we were
going out of town. So we had to take her that
day on a Sunday and put her down. So that's it.
It's sad because you're in there with them and
they're on the ground. I don't know if they're
aware of what's going on. And then they just
kind of fall asleep and stop breathing. Right.
And it's difficult. As much of a pain in the
ass as Lady was at times, she was great with
me and the family and everything. She was a part
of the family. But again, I wasn't attached.
Some of these folks were extremely attached to
their pets. Oh, yeah. Where they're treated like
children. And they take them to cardiologists,
vet cardiologists. A little over the top. I know
a guy that's basically he's got an aging cat.
And the cat's really important to he and his
wife because it was like his mom's cat or his
wife's mom's cat. So it's a very sentimental
creature. But, dude, I keep joking with him that
he's the world's best cat owner because he has
gone to the cardiologist. They've done surgeries.
They've done. Breathing treatments. Now, he has
pet insurance. Right. Right. So that has made
it somewhat palpable. Right. But I think he's
seven grand, eight grand. No, no. Forget that.
I'm sorry. I was like, dude, no way. But it's
across the board with pet costs. I mean, the
insurance, the vets, vets charge a ton of money.
You can't leave a vet's office under 400 bucks
nowadays. I know. It's insane. And it's the food
to take care of them. You know, it's like, you
know, and then, you know, you may be this person
that goes out and buys a hundred pound bag of
dog chow for, you know, 30 bucks, you know, and
it's just like, well, and then they're like,
well, that's not food. And then you get shamed
for, you know, feeding them subpar food. Well,
you know, in our house, we feed the, I don't
buy it, but from what I understood, we buy expensive
dog food. Well, it's healthier. It keeps them
healthier. If you give them bad food. They're
going to have more health problems. It is true.
And I'm not sounding like I don't want to make
that happen. But, I mean, there's just a lot
of expenses that you don't really sign up for.
You're kind of like, holy shit. When you get
an animal, you really need to think about the
whole process. This isn't just a pet. Oh, I'm
just going to buy him. Correct. Oh, yeah. You're
feeding it. Yes. It's the responsibility of a
child because it is the responsibility because
you're responsible for it. So if you don't feed
it, they're going to come after you. If you abuse
it, they're going to come after you. And it limits
your ability to go on vacations. You've got to
think about how you're going to board the dog,
and that's expensive. And I hear all the stories
all the time. Yeah, I can't leave my dog alone
that long, so I can't go. Well, we've made the
conscious effort after Lady. We're like, okay,
this was emotionally tough. And now that we're
empty nesters, we're like, well, we want to have
the ability to just get up and leave whenever
we want. Not have to worry about a dog. Be naked
all day long and not be licked again. Noses up
under the scrote or anything like that. Exactly.
Decrease the amount of peanut butter you're purchasing
every month. Yeah, for sure. Yeah. So we made
that consciousness. And it's been nice. I miss
having a dog. I miss the companionship, especially
when I was working, right? She would hang out
with me in the office all day. Yeah, of course.
But now, you know, I like it better now that
we don't have one because you're not dealing
with all of the stuff. Yes, I know. That you're
having to deal with. We have a puppy in the house
right now. We've got our two dogs and now this
puppy, and it's driving us crazy. Right. Well,
especially when they're... The dog that you got,
the puppy, it was potty trained. And all of a
sudden it has amnesia. Oh, my God. How do you
say that? Amnesia. What the hell is going on
with my brain? Yeah. Amnesia. And the dog can't
remember what the fuck. It's like, I don't get
it. It's struggling. It's still peeing everywhere.
I don't know if it's anger issues. Now, you got
to remember that dog is picked up off the streets.
And it's got psychological issues. Maybe it's
the fact that it's with two dogs. And maybe it's
like, I need to get my scent everywhere. All
I smell are these other dogs. Let me pee and
spray everywhere. You know, if I saw it going
around sniffing, marking kind of thing, yes.
But no. She just drops down. Yeah. Like this
morning, I was like, you know, watching Ripley
eat her food. Make sure they don't eat each other's
food and shit like that. Right. So I'm sitting
there watching. And then she leaves her bowl.
And I'm like, she's over my shoulder. And I'm
like, OK, well, I'm like, wait a second. I turn
around. She's shitting in my living room. I'm
like, oh, no, no, no, no. We're not doing that.
We're not doing that. Who is this? Astrid? Yeah.
Started shitting right in front of me this morning
in my living room. And I was like, no, no. And
so one falls out and she starts jumping away
from me. Another one falls out. And then she's
like scampering away. And I'm like, no, no, no.
You go outside for that. You know what I mean?
That's just a power move. Yeah. Is that what
it is? Yeah. Did she still have the poop hunch
that she was trying to get away with the hunch
going and everything? Yeah, she was. She was
trying to pinch it off because she got scared
that I was yelling at her. Yeah, it was not fun.
It was not fun. Maybe you ought to revert to
commands like outside. Oh, yeah, okay. What do
you think? Of course I'm doing that. I don't
know. I don't know. I know that when I'm over
there, I've heard the commands that happen when
the dogs do something you don't want, and instead
of commanding them, you guys are kind of, hey,
look, I'm guilty of it too. This is coming from
a dog expert trainer, right? You don't have to
be an expert. You know, when you sit there and
yell at the dog, especially a puppy, the dogs
don't know. They're just like, oh, my God, he's
just yelling at me. No, you say no outside. Yeah.
Which is what I said. All right. Oh, okay. There
you go. Anyway, it's crazy because it's just,
you know, you can't leave the dog alone for that
long. You got to leave it in the crate. I hang
out with Wes. Did you know that? Yeah. Anyway.
He's taught me a bunch. There was one interesting
thing I thought about. I like the whisper. there's
this guy that has been walking around our neighborhood
for years. And it's like this kind of, he looks
like this grouchy old man, because I've never
met him. And he's got this Rottweiler. And the
Rottweiler's like perfectly trained, walking
right next to him, you know. And they just do
this very serious walk. And I wave, and he kind
of lifts his head at me, you know. He's not all
that interested in being social, I can tell.
Anyway, so for years, just whatever. You know
how when you walk your dogs, you avoid each other
anyway. You cross the street and all that kind
of stuff. Well, the other day, I saw him walking.
A baby Watt Waller. Ah. So obviously his dog
passed. Right. And here he is with a baby Watt
Waller starting all over from scratch. And it
was kind of, you know, pulling him left around.
He was like, you know, pulling it right next
to him, you know. It was just cool. I mean, I
felt bad for him because obviously he lost. Right.
Obviously he lost a friend. Right. You know what
I mean? But that's what you do. You get a younger
dog. You don't have to get a puppy, but you can
get a younger rescue dog, you know, that's hopefully
been potty trained. So Preston, my son Preston,
his girlfriend gets these dogs from, I don't
know, where do they get them? Pound, I guess?
Their foster. Yeah, she fosters them. So she'll
grab one, two, or three dogs at a time because
they already have two large dogs. And then they
get these foster dogs, and I don't know how she
does it. I don't have that emotional energy,
but she does. And she will love on those dogs
and train them. Yeah, it's a lot of work. It
is. Yeah, but I mean, she's got a system. Yeah,
kudos to her. And it works. I don't know. It's
got to be frustrating. You've got to be very
firm. Yes. And consistent. For sure. And you
have to watch them constantly. You can't let
them just roam. Right. You've got to follow them
around. Oh, it looks like they're about to pee.
No, no, no, outside. I think it's fascinating.
My brother -in -law has a service dog. I think
it's fascinating because it takes a couple years
to get these dogs ready for this. Oh, I bet.
They go through a shit ton of training to be
able to recognize whatever they're trained to
recognize. Yeah, and they can never have freak
out moments. Nope. But what's interesting, the
dog is 100 % behaved at all times. But it knows
the difference of when it's on the job and when
it's not. That's interesting. Because when he
has his vest on. He is a different dog. When
he takes the vest off, he's a dog just playing.
Oh, that's cool. So they're like, he goes, he
knows. So the training goes down to even that
level of wearing the vest or not. Yep. So when
the vest is on, he is locked in. And he does
everything. You can walk him, though, leash.
He's 100 % trained. Nice. But it takes years
for that to happen. Yeah. Not much training.
Well, it's probably similar to police dogs and
military dogs. Oh, yeah. I mean, a shit ton of
training. But I've never seen, I wonder what
the training regimen is for something like that.
I don't know. You know, I don't even know how
you would even approach that. But there has to
be a recipe or a format because people do it
all the time. Well, there's also professionals
that do it. That's what I mean. It's a professional
company that does this. Like, if you did nothing
but train dogs all day long. then I think it
would be easier. He has no Larry Hokai, right?
Yeah, yeah. His sister, that's what she does
for a living. Nice. She trains dogs for, I don't
remember exactly, is it for blind people or for
special needs? I don't know if they've got the
diabetes and they can recognize it. Oh, they
smell. Yeah, they can smell when they're going
to have a fit. There's a specialized training
that she does. She, that's what she does. She
will have them for six months at a time or, you
know, three months, six months, nine months until
they get them up to a certain point. And then
she relinquishes them. And, you know, it may
cost, I think she said maybe $50 ,000 to train
for that. But look, you got to think of the value
of that. When someone that has an issue and they
need a dog. That's going to help them. It's going
to create a huge better quality of life. I bet
you if she were on the podcast, she would share
so many things that we would find fascinating
about that whole process and how smart they are
and how the training goes. Right. That would
be super cool. Yeah. Especially when it comes
to military dogs. I mean, think about what they
do. There's Belgian Malinois that they're like.
In the war with them. Some autism service dogs.
There you go. There's dogs that are designed
for when you have seizures. They'll lay on your
body to prevent you from rolling and hitting
something and hitting your head. That's insane.
I know that on the bus they said you may have
a student with a service dog come on with it.
I haven't, but it's happened in the past. Yeah,
sure. Some of these dogs are super smart. I see
more of the mutts on these different shows that
can do the training course where they can run
up the ladders and jump over the slides. They
look like show dogs, right? Yeah, these guys
are crazy. Just the different shit they can do
and how high they can jump. The Belton, the Malinois,
I think that's how you say it. I've seen the
footage where part of the competition is they
run up the side of a wall. Oh, nice. Right? So
they'll jump up and they'll run up the side of
the wall. They'll have it marked with inches
and feet, right? And they'll have this rabbit
or toy hanging up there 20 feet up in the air.
And this thing's running up the side of the wall.
And then when it gets close, it'll leap off,
grab it in its mouth, and then the trainer's
down there to catch him. Wow. And there's footage
out there of this. Let's see if this is it. Yeah,
there we are. Yeah, this guy's going to do it.
Well, this is a little bit different. Oh, this
is to get over the wall. Oh, no. He's going to
catch this. Oh, there we go. So there's something
hanging up there. Look at that. That's fucking
crazy. How do you even start the training process
for that? Well, just lower, I guess. He lands
right in his owner's arms. That is crazy. The
dog probably loves it. He's probably like, this
is fucking great. Put it up there again. Put
it up there again. Oh, yeah. This is fucking
awesome. Yeah, that's crazy. There's that red
thing there where they're measuring it. If only
they could open a can of Coke, open a bourbon
bottle. Yeah. Hey, go give me some. Mix a drink.
Give me some Triscuits in an old -fashioned.
Yeah. Wouldn't that be cool? We can't find any
cool dogs like that. Well, give it time. Get
one of those. Oh, can a melon walk? No. No, thank
you. There's some dogs. And I don't know if it's
real or not. There are memes out there where
you have these plastic buttons on the floor that
when you push a button. Oh, they say words. They
have words. And the dog will go up there and
push the buttons. And I don't know if it's true
and they're just faking it. But if it is true
and some of the stuff that they're able to do,
that is crazy. You know? So it goes, treat, treat.
And you go, no, asshole, asshole. Yeah, outside,
outside. You know, I think that's great. Fuck
you. I think it's cool. And there was a bird.
There was a bird. I heard this last night. I
was in bed with my CPAP machine on, and I spent
the last five minutes of my 30 -minute limit
on Instagram. And I see this parrot. And the
owner of it, the parrot is making fart noises.
Oh, no. You know, and they're in bed and they're
sleeping. And then you hear the parrot. And she
says, stop making that noise. And it keeps making
another variety of farts. Totally being noncompliant.
It was funny as hell. I had to laugh out loud
at that. Yeah, parrots are wild too, man. Those
last. Older than you. Those birds, some of those
will last like 90 to 100 years. So that's a pet
for life if you get one of those. A parrot, huh?
The parrot, those birds, yeah. I wonder if that
Russian guy from Iron Man 2 was so upset when
his cockatoo was taken from him when he went
to jail. I want my cockatoo. I want my bird.
So the kikapoo lasts, let's say, 60 years. Cockatoos,
40 to 60 years. Damn. So they live a very long
time. And you don't have to walk them when it's
100 degrees. Wow. Isn't that a big bonus? I mean,
I'm sure they fly, right? No, they clip their
wings. Yeah, they clip so they can't fly. That
kind of sucks. Yeah, it seems kind of inhumane.
You know, I wonder if you don't. Maybe it's kind
of like rabbits don't fly and break their necks.
I had a friend who had like three or four, what
are the small ones? Parakeets? Yeah. Canaries
or whatever they are. And he had maybe up to
five or six of them. And he had a... They flew
in his room. And he was his only child, so he
had basically two rooms with a doorway in between.
And he had a little perch on one side and a perch
on the other side, and they'd fly back and forth
while he's just, you're just in there. He's got
these birds flying back and forth. Just shitting
all over his room. Probably. Hmm. Yeah. Isn't
Canary's the one that they put in a cage and
then they... Leave it in the mine to make sure
it's safe. Yeah, if it dies. Then they know they
can't go down there. Yeah, there's gas. Well,
that, I think it's lack of oxygen, maybe. Yeah,
I don't know. Or buildup of carbon dioxide. I
thought it was, well, probably any of the above.
It could be any scenario where it's not safe
to breathe. Canary's dead. Let's go. No. Oh,
yeah. Yeah, leave. I don't care why. It's dead.
I think you're misunderstanding. It's dead. Let's
go down there, guys. But why? Is it no oxygen?
Is it gas? It doesn't matter. It's dead. Speaking
of gas and canaries, remember that show WKRP
in Cincinnati? I watched it every week. Yeah,
WKRP. How was it? Was it a go -to for you? It
was, because I lived in Cincinnati, so we were
like, let's watch it. We're there. I remember
Les Nesman, the reporter, the on -site reporter,
Thanksgiving. And it's the turkeys being tossed
out of the helicopter. It's horrific. The humanity
of it all. Oh, the humanity. The turkeys are
hitting the ground like sacks of wet cement.
Let's hear the theme song. I think it's one of
the great theme songs that was out there. Come
and knock on my door. That's the wrong one. Oh,
I love this song. You know, I enjoyed this. I
look forward to listening to this song. I've
never seen it. Really? Lonnie Anderson was the
hot, bubbly, blonde chick with big boobies. And
then you had Bayley, who everyone desired because
she was the sleeper in the group. She's the one
you would marry. Yeah, Bayley. Nice. And now
look what it is. There's fights in the street.
I know. It's gone to shit since this show. Yeah.
So, yeah, we watched it every week. And, you
know, Cincinnati used to look like that. And
Lonnie has passed away this week. She has. That's
great. Was she actually married to Burt Reynolds?
Yes. She was married to him. He passed away in
2005 or something like that. You didn't really
hear much about her. I mean, she kind of lived
a quiet life. Yeah. She was juggy from what I
remember. What do you mean? Yeah. Outside. Although,
I think once WKIP went off the air. I don't think
I saw her again. Yeah, that's a good point. I
don't think I saw her in a different show. Yeah.
Look up Lonnie Anderson on Wikipedia. I'm kind
of curious. What did she do? Look at that hair.
How much hairspray do you think was in that?
A lot. That might have killed her. Oh, shit.
God. Oh, look at that. She's a pretty lady. Oh,
yeah. Yeah, she was pretty. Absolutely. And she
lived at the Roxbury? I guess she did a cameo
there. How old was she? She did a voice for All
Dogs Go to Heaven. My Sister is So Gay. What?
What? What? What? It's a TV series. She must
be happy. Yeah, she was in it for 13 episodes.
Wow. You're going to add it to your list. Ladies
of the 80s. Of course she is. The Mullets. I
haven't heard of any of these. Not at the Roxbury.
I've heard of that. I wonder if she just did
a cameo on them or if she was on Clueless, I
guess. Yeah, a lot of these were one episode.
Yeah, they're probably, like you said, cameos
or one -offs when she needed a little bit of
money. Look, she's got quite the rep here. I
mean, she's been on tons and tons of shows. Who
cares? I mean, she was probably loaded because
she was married to Burt Reynolds. You know, she
lived life great. She's beautiful. Yeah. She
had a bubbly attitude. She got along. That was
four years, the WKRP in Cincinnati. Four years
of five, whichever. Six. No. And the Love Boat.
Five. We're bad fleets here. God, look at that.
Well, you know, you never know to include one
of the weird, right? The Incredible Hulk. She
was big in the late 70s, early 80s is when her
prime time was. Barnaby Jones. Yeah, she might
have made a decision just to kind of stay out
of the limelight. There's nothing wrong with
that. Did she have any kids with Burt or did
she have any kids with other dudes? I don't know.
Maybe she decided, all right, I'm done. I'm raising
my family. Yeah, a lot of them do that. Yeah.
Quentin Anderson Reynolds and Deirdre Hoffman.
There we go. It says her family all about the
late actresses something. All right. Two children.
Okay. I don't know. I'd be interested if she
just kind of chose to stay out of the limelight
for the most part. Anyway, she was a lovely lady.
How old was she? She was 80, wasn't she? Did
I say 90? Just shy of 80. 1945. Yeah, her birthday
was like two or three days after she passed away.
Yeah. Yeah. She was married to... Burt Reynolds.
Bruce Hasselberg, then Ross Bickle, then Burt
Reynolds, and then Bob Flick until 2008. Oh,
wow. So four husbands. That's not atypical for
these Hollywood people to have three or four
marriages. I always think, why does a Hollywood
person marry another Hollywood person? I get
it because they're in the same realm, but I would
think... If you married outside of that, it may
fare better. Maybe not because maybe there's
jealousy and shit going on. They still have to
be a power person. Like they have to be a CEO
of something. But imagine that. She died of 79
years old. So, I mean, you got to think about,
she probably, I don't know, I'm not, she probably
kept herself healthy. It's her birthday today.
Today? Yeah. Well, shoot, she's just really.
I mean, she died August 3rd, so that's... It's
two days. So, I mean, let's say she's 80. I mean,
that is literally 25 years left for our lives.
She took care of herself. You know, I'm not saying
we don't take care of ourselves, but she was
looking pretty healthy. Scroll down a second
there, Mr. Producer. It says she auditioned for
the role of Chrissy on the sitcom Three's Company.
Look at that. She did not get the role. I think
they chose correctly. I think so, too. Yeah,
it would have ruined her look because I don't
think she was an airhead on WKRP. I think she
was one of those smart airhead things, right?
Where she was kind of flighty, but she kept the
office running kind of a thing. Right. You know?
You know, the interesting thing is that's the
only significant death I know of in the last...
We went through this... three, four, five, six
of them, right, in the last podcast we did? Yeah.
And she's kind of the only one that I've heard
about this week or in the last two weeks. Yeah,
there was one last, it was Brian Sandberg last
week and then Lonnie this week. Lonnie Anderson,
yeah. We still have one more shoe to drop. I
guess. Well, rest in peace, Lonnie Anderson.
Yeah, you know, and I guess it's just going to
continue. The beat goes on. I think what's going
to start happening is, you know, all the bands
that we grew up listening to, they're all dying
off. They're all going to start dying off. They
are. It's sick. It's horrible. You know, the
Eagles are starting to die off. Len Fry died.
He died young, though. Beach Boys. The Beach
Boys. Well, they're even before us. One of them
died recently. Well, yeah, Brian Wilson. But
I think there's only one original Beach Boy left.
Right. But, you know, all of them. You know,
they're starting to die off in ACDC. I think
Led Zeppelin, they're getting really old. Aerosmith,
they're up in their 70s now. They're highlandering
each other. There can be only one. Yes. Right?
Yeah, there's going to be only one band left.
Keith Richards with just lightning bolts shooting
out of his hands. Yes. So Led Zeppelin, we watched
the Becoming Led Zeppelin documentary. I don't
know if you guys have seen that. See, I don't
know much about Led Zeppelin at all. I had no
idea that Jimmy Page was basically the ringleader
of that band. I didn't know that. Yep. He was
the one that, I mean, he came from the Yardbirds.
Yep. And he was the one that like. Got the record
deal, you know, figured out the recording, how
they wanted to make it sound. He ran the whole
damn thing. Yeah. And then Robert Plant started
doing some songwriting after he joined the band,
you know, because he didn't bring songwriting
into the band. You know what I mean? I mean,
just, it's a fascinating story. It's a good,
it's a short documentary. It's a good one. Oh,
it's about two hours, actually. Where is this
on? This is on, I think it's on Prime. Is it
on Netflix? It says Netflix. Oh, okay. Netflix.
You know what? We switch back and forth between
them so often that I can never remember which
one we go to. I'll have to watch that because
I like the documentaries. Well, you guys, we
talked about the Star Trek Strange New Worlds
or something. That's what it was called. I like
the show. It's got quirkiness. All of them. All
the shows have quirkiness to them. But the thing
about this particular one, it just became a little
bit... Some of it was just too, it's good to
space them out, you know? Right. Like, you know,
maybe I was binge watching them and it appeared
to be too close together, but it's just like
they were just, this particular Strange New Worlds
was just kind of cheesy. Silly. But I still liked
it. It got silly. It was immature. I know the
one you're talking about. You're talking about
the musical. Yeah, and it said, but, well, okay,
I was going to bring up the musicals, but. Outside
the musicals, it just had a little Freaky Friday
kind of episode. Oh, yeah. And it was like there
was a little Cinderella style. It was just weird.
But I got to tell you, I think it's funny, which
is the main point I'm trying to bring up, is
about these sitcoms all having musicals. It doesn't
matter what it is. Scrubs, for example. Scrubs
has a musical. I never watched Scrubs, yeah.
I never watched it either. Oh, it's a funny,
funny show. I recommend it. All of them have
musicals. Hell, even It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia
has a musical. You know, it's freaking funny.
Yeah. Actually, it's really funny. I don't know.
I mean, I guess, you know, I guess they want
to keep it fresh and kind of change things up.
and so they throw in something kind of silly.
Part of me thinks it's extremely stupid, but
the other part of me silently, when no one's
watching, I'm kind of like, oh, this is kind
of... You'll get up and dance with it? Yeah,
I'll get up there. Like thrusting and everything?
There we go. Actually, Scrubs was funny as hell.
Those guys were hilarious. I guess it's kind
of like those Indian movies. If you watch an
Indian movie, they're like acting normal, and
all of a sudden, having nothing to do with the
movie, they take a break, and they all do some
sort of Koryak... dancing and it's weird i watched
and i'm just like going what in the hell is going
on here i watched one of those movies from beginning
to end yes i did too triple r r r r what and
it was actually entertaining the movie rrr yes
Is that the guy with the hair that just moved
in the wind? Probably. Like Fabio, but the Indian
Fabio? Exactly. He was like this fighter, and
he was like a romancer. And every time he had
a scene, his hair was always just kind of blowing.
There was always a fan on it. Yeah, these guys
right here. And you can see they're doing a dance
there in the bottom corner. But it's ridiculous.
It was entertaining, for one thing. They're not
bad. The action sequences were way over the top
where you're like, yeah, that's not going to
happen. And then. The Tom Cruise ones are good,
but come on. Yeah, exactly. But, you know, and
then they'll like, you're right. They'll break
into this, you know, they're fighting. Then all
of a sudden, you know, they'll get a rhythm in
the fight. They'll start doing the neck move.
You've got to be on TV. But that was on Netflix
when I saw it. Wow. That's a three hour movie.
It did take me several days to get through it.
Wow. Several days. You really love those dance
moves. Yeah. Wow, that made me laugh. Did you
practice the choreography? Well, there were some
of the scenes that were so over the top that
I actually videoed and sent them to Steve. I
was like, you and Preston should do this. They
were like flinging each other over all. I was
just like, this is absolutely ridiculous. It
was entertaining. Yeah. It had some decent special
effects, but it was. That's quite the commitment.
Three hours and seven minutes to watch RRR. What
does RRR stand for? Is that the tiger? It's a
pirate movie. I have no idea. But if you're going
to watch one, try that one out. It's actually
entertaining. I watched one where it's a true
story of Indian girls that wanted to be wrestlers,
I think. Wrestlers or gymnasts when they weren't
allowed to be. And that one was good, too. It
was funny because I was asking my coworkers.
I was making fun of Bollywood and the whole dancing
thing. Right. And they were all like, you need
to watch one. You know what I mean? What about
Dangle? I was like, okay, I will. What about
Dangle? I don't like the Indian movie named Dangle.
Indian biographical sports drama film Dangle
tells a story. Former wrestler who trains his
daughter. Yeah, I think so. That might be it.
Grita and Babita to become the world -class wrestler.
Maybe. That might be it. It was pretty good.
Was it? Yeah. It was pretty good. And Shelly
watched it with me. What was the Slumdog's...
Slumdog Millionaire. Yeah. What was that movie
about? I didn't watch it. I didn't watch that
either. I think it was an Indian who won a game
show or a lottery or something like that. Yeah,
he won Who Wants to Be a Millionaire, I believe.
Yeah. Something like that, yeah. Interesting.
Yeah, I don't know. Well, I mean. Anyway, some
of these movies are actually, you know, they're
redeeming movies. I mean, they're not so bad.
I know we make fun of them and the whole dancing
thing. Well, they definitely have a look to them
and a formula, right? A repeatable. Yeah, it
is. At least, again, I don't have a big library
that I've watched, but, you know, whenever I
see snippets of it, you know, it's like from
the ancient Indians who. you know, the princess
and prince, and they have to fight each other
or whatever, then they dance, you know, and then
they fight some more and dance. It's great. So
it's formula. Again, I don't know if it really
is or not, but the limited things that I've seen
has been. You know, a hard left here. I'd like
to give a shout out to Scott Cash. Scott Cash,
he invited the Dudes Like Us podcast and some
workmates to go over his house last week. I missed,
unfortunately. He really went above and beyond.
He always does. He's such a great guy. First
of all, it was a whiskey event. For whiskey lovers
out there, look, he had what? 50 bottles out?
He brought out his best stuff. And he was like,
you know, you guys got to try this, you got to
try this. But he also had a tequila station and
a scotch station. I didn't hit anything other
than the bourbon. But it's kind of hard, though.
And you're kind of like, well, fuck, man. I can
only drink so much. I'm going to get shit -faced.
So I really was conscientious of what I was drinking.
And Chuck was kind of like, I don't give a fuck.
Get out of my way. Glug, glug, glug. Bam. Glug,
glug, glug. Bam. He was knocking over bottles
and shit. He was like, this is all of me. Amazing!
He's like that kid. That's exactly true. Exactly
how it went down. So, you know, he's got his
guitar amps out. First of all, Scott Cash is
single. Go figure. And he's got the man's cave
man's house. I mean, it is a playground. I mean,
he does have toys. He's got a drum set. He's
got a gazillion guitars. He's got a scooter.
He's got an electric scooter. Apparently you
were riding it around again. I was. It was a
lot of fun. I'm like, I might get one. I mean,
I might, you know, might be a good way for me
to get around. Oh, you've talked about your three
wheel. I really. Well, you know what? Whatever.
I'm not going to jump back on that. But look,
I wanted to shout out to Scott and say thank
you very much. It was a great deal. And we want
to do it again. And we want to invite some of
our main listeners out there that love the whiskeys
too. So if you're interested in joining us over
at Scott's house, direct message us on Instagram
or Facebook. And we'll set up a time when we
go out there because Scott had a shitload. What
was that? Penelope? The Penelope Rio. Rio. Oh,
that was outstanding. And he had so many. He
had the whole damn Penelope collection, man.
I was like, wow. Yeah. I was pretty impressed.
He had a lot. A lot of stuff. Yeah, he had the
Van Winkle, you know, like the 10 -year, $1 ,000
bottle. But we didn't try it. We were going to.
He didn't want to open it. Oh, is that what it
was? Well, he said we could open it, but, you
know. Who's going to do that? Yeah. He would.
I know, but that's the whole thing. We didn't
want to make him. Well, I think if you're going
over there just to sample that, but if you're
over there, you're like six bourbons and you're
like, you're not going to appreciate it as much.
Chug, chug, chug. Yeah. Give me four figures.
What? Oh, you mean your drink? Yes, drink. I
was like, what party are you going to, buddy?
No, no. It didn't turn into that. Is that like
four in the stink? What is going on? Yeah. Four
of the steak. That's what you said. It could
be four figures. Wow. The Diddy Party. All right.
We're going to talk about our bourbon of the
first half. Let's do it. So this comes off the
advent calendar that Jeff went to Kentucky and
came back with a gazillion bottles of whiskey
and was like, hey, bitches, this one is from
the Maker's Mark family. Jeff, you want to go?
Yeah, this is a Maker's Mark. We did the tour,
which I recommend it. Maker's Mark is actually
beautiful. Did you hit it when you were up there?
No. Maker's Mark is a very beautiful facility.
Uh, they got a really nice clubhouse or whatever
you want to call it. You can sit out there on
their deck and overlook their property and, uh,
enjoy some, some drinks and stuff like that.
And they, I think they can even get you some
foods if you want, uh, some finger foods. Uh,
but anyway, uh, so we did the tour, uh, nice
young lady took us around, told us all about
it. And, um, when we got out. uh they actually
also took us she actually explained what uh you
know what maker's mark does right so maker's
mark for the longest time was just one bottle
it was one mash it was one everything oh wow
it was maker's mark and that was it and then
the son uh came up and was taken over and he
goes well i want to try something different so
they started he started testing with staves right
so putting these you know full -size staves Different
toastings. Putting them in the barrel. Into the
barrel, like a full -size stave, not little slivers
or anything like that. Right. And he'd put 10
of them in there. He'd put five of them in there.
He was experimenting all over the place. Sure.
And they said that he did about 200 different
experiments, different woods, different toasting
levels, different counts of this toast, that
toast, all kinds of variations. He did a couple
hundred. And then he settled on the 46th version.
And that's when you see the Maker's Mark 46.
That was his first one that came out, basically
the second Maker's Mark, right? Right. So that
was the one he liked well enough to move forward
with as a regular process and start bottling.
It was the 46th variation of his experiment of
all the staves. So that's what the 46 means.
So anyway, so now they've been playing with it
for crazy, right? So now you see all kinds of
stuff with their staves. And this one in particular
was, it's a limited release. A single barrel,
and what they said, it was only available there
at the distillery. So a bottle of Maker's Mark
Private Selection Panna Cotta from Star Hill
Farm with a proof of, what is it, 111? 111 .1.
111 .1, aged with a stave profile including four
baked American pure, four seared French cuvee.
That's incorrect. One, what? That's incorrect.
What does it say on there? It says four. I can't
read that. Four baked American puree, like you
said. One seared, I can't read that. Fuck, man,
my eyes. Yep. One seared French cuvee. Oh, yeah,
one seared French cuvee, two maker's mark 46,
three French mendiant, and zero toasted French
spice. Yeah, so three roasted, yeah, French,
exactly. So that's what this one is. Interesting.
And I actually dipped this one in the wax. Did
you really? Yeah. What a shitty job. It's all
over the place. I know. There's an extra little
finger there. Yeah, what's going on there? But
I bottled one. Or not bottled, but I dipped this
one. You bottled it too, huh? No, I didn't bottle
it, but I dipped it. Julie dipped one, and this
is the one I did. I think that's pretty cool.
I mean, look, I think it's interesting. to introduce
these staves to the whiskey because, you know,
we're all over the place. When I say we, the
industry is all over the place trying to come
up with something new. And, you know, the whiskey
blendery is part of that. They're trying to come
up with something new. And this kind of shares
that. It's, you know, I don't see what is a big
stick. They have staves, Oak and Eden. They're
huge proponents of staves. There's just iron
root. Those are in the bottle, though, right?
Big Mike is. Well, Maker's Mark does it in the
barrel as they're aging it. Yeah. Right? So they
don't put them in the bottles. They put them
in the barrels. But it just seems like a fad
that's just picking up and picking up. And iron
root, they're starting to introduce different
types of staves and putting it in there. And
I'm looking forward to, I like the Amaranta.
uh, Amaranta stuff. Right. I'm looking forward
to more of that. Right. I also think it's a,
there's so much bourbon out there. We need to
try to maybe distinguish ourselves. Let's do
some, do some different things out there. How
do we grow the industry to where it's just not,
like I said, for years and years and years, Makers
Mark had one mash bill, one bottle. Yeah. Right.
Yeah. I mean, and you know, it's, it's kind of
like, you know, Everything out there. It was
like Crown Royal. You want your bourbon? You
got your staple. Early times bourbon. Bam, there
you go. Or old granddad. It's just like the beer.
You didn't have 15 different varieties of beer
selections out there. Now you have 15 ,000 selections
of beer and wine. Everything is becoming just
super. And look, I like it. As long as they can
make enough money to where they can keep themselves
in business, super duper. But there are a lot
of companies out there that are struggling because
it is so thin. You got to make it. Oak and Eden,
I just heard today that they're probably going
to be closing. They're going bankrupt. And they
had a great product. And that sucks because they
do have a great product. But at the end of the
day, it's not about packaging. I mean, maybe
some of it is for some different companies, but
using Oak Eden as an example, they had a great
package. I mean, it looked good, a great concept.
I don't know where they could have done better.
You said they're struggling, they may go out
of business? That's what I understood. They're
going bankrupt, quote unquote. So I don't know
if they overextended themselves. They were procuring
their stuff through MGP. Is it the fact that
MGP is no longer providing that stuff for them?
Well, potentially the barrel pricing. Got really
expensive. So if they bought a bunch of barrels
and they're still sitting on those really expensive
barrels and bourbon price for a bottle is coming
down. It's correcting. It's correcting. So they
can't sell their bottles for what they need to
to make back their money. You know what I mean?
So they bought this barrel for $20 ,000. They're
like, well, we need to sell that bottle for,
you know, 70 bucks. And now they can only get.
Yeah. $60 for it. If they're taking a loss on
every barrel, they can't do that. So that's what
happened is the barrel pricing got so expensive
that a lot of them were having trouble. Even
the company Barrel, right? They were the biggest
one who had the most barrels out there. Yeah.
And they were starting to sell off their lot
because they saw what was happening, and they
almost went bankrupt. They may still be having
trouble, but there are several of them out there
that were having trouble because they bought
a bunch of barrels at its peak, and now it's
dipped, and they can't recoup their money. Yeah.
All right, so let's talk about this. This nose
is a little frustrating for me. I can't seem
to get anything out of it. It's not real strong.
I've already tasted it, so I know it's a decent
bourbon. Did you violently shake it? I have been
swirling it, yes. I'm just not getting anything
from the nose at all. They were saying, bring
the glass to the side, let it coat. All of the
outside of the glass. Oh, good Lord. I just spilled
it everywhere. Yeah, well, try not to do that.
You're paying my ass. And then... That's a dumb
idea. It's too dangerous. Well, I mean, you can't
swirl it while it's on its side. No, I'm twirling
it very carefully, but yeah, I mean... No, but
okay, look. This is what they said. Put it on
its side and let it get the legs, and it's just
because it's as fresh. And then that way, when
you stick your nose in, there's more surface
area that's covered with the nice... crisp, wonderful
maker's mark. That did not help me. Oh, I can
smell everything now. No, really, I'm not getting
anything from the nose. I'm not either, actually.
It's a very subtle nose. I pick up some grass,
maybe some mint on there. Yeah, I can taste the
mint. I can't smell it. But once I spilled it
over my hands. Oh, yeah. I could smell your hands
from here. I can kind of get the grass a little
bit. Yeah, and some mints and some standard bourbon
smells. But the flavor. Did you dump it all over
your face trying to do your swirling thing? No,
I leaned back smelling it, and it went in my
face. Oh, my God. All right. This is the first
half, too, by the way. I know. But, again, on
the palate. I'm picking up the mints. And the
finish, I'm getting a ton of tobacco for me.
Like a late finish. Like when we were sitting
out at the green room and I took the first couple
sips, maybe 30 seconds later I was getting a
lot of tobacco on the palate. So it's a long
finish and it morphs as it goes along. It does
last. It does last. I'll tell you what. And it's
not unpleasant either. It's not a quitter. No,
it's not. It doesn't attack you. There are some
out there that are too peppery. It's got a great
experience, but it's too peppery. After four
or five seconds, ten, and you're like, oh, my
God. It just makes the finish horrible. This
one does finish good. Nice little vanilla twist
with some sweetness. I'd say some honey, cinnamon,
oak spice. Yeah. That's one thing. Because we've
had some recently where the finish is like, that's
almost non -existent. It's been really fast.
This one lasts quite a while. It does. It does.
Did you say that this was distillery only? Distillery
only. So you have to be at the site. Yeah, and
it was limited. So once I think this was gone,
it's gone. Okay. Wow. Well, this is enjoyable.
I'm not freaking out about it, I'll be honest,
but it's enjoyable. It's one of those things
where it's like a Star Wars movie. You got to
appreciate it for what it is. Right. And I think
this has got a great – I'm kind of curious to
see where we grade this. Yeah. I'm kind of along
where Paul is. I like it. I like it a lot. Is
it one of our better ones? There's some other
better Maker's Mark out there, I think. What's
the proof again? 111. 111. Okay. It's right in
the sweet spot. It doesn't drink like 111. I
think it's smooth. It's really smooth. But probably
maybe 100. It's got a little licorice. I wouldn't
say it's down to 95 -90. Maybe 100. Yeah. I'm
liking it more and more. The more I'm kind of
diving into it. I have not drank a whole lot.
I still have a bunch in here. I got the video.
I'll show it to you after the thing of me dipping
it. Oh, yeah. And you going, oh, damn, out of
my hand. Sir, don't. Why do you keep spilling
it? This is my second time. The first time I
dipped the whole thing and clued it up to my
elbow. Did you drop it? They're like, sir, can
you step away from that? And it froze. Sir, just
go to the complimentary bratwurst stand. Just
walk away. Get some sour grape. All right, what
are we going to rate this? I think 111. I think
I'm around the 7 .2 mark on this. I'm 6 .8. It's
good. It's above average for me. Yeah. I'll do
7 -3. I don't want to do 7 -4, and I don't want
to do 7 -1. I really like it. I like the bourbons
that finish really long. Yeah, and I'm not talking
a white powder long. I'm talking a nice cool.
If I'm enjoying something, I want to sip on it
for a long time, but I want to be able to enjoy
that sip for 30 seconds, 40 seconds. This might
be good with a cigar. Meaning something you could
dip a cigar in there. It might have a good enhancement
here. Or maybe like a Tootsie Roll. A Tootsie
Roll? Can't be perfect with a Tootsie Roll. That's
interesting. Like in your mouth? I don't know.
Where else would you put it? Going back to our
earlier discussion. Yeah, that's kind of how
we started the podcast. A little suppository
action. What are you talking about? And the toothy
roll just keeps popping out. And those are tapered.
First half of the Dudes Like Us podcast, August
5th, 2025. Chuck! Mr. Producer, thank you for
staying on top of things. We have Instagram.
We have Facebook. Check us out, dudeslikeus -podcast.
I am Sean. I'm Paul. Wow. And I'm Jeff. Sorry,
you got me in my final hole here.