Shoot, man. Feeling good. Yeah? Feel all right?
Yeah. Well, you look good. That first podcast
was the Bank Street. Bourbon's got me a little
riled up, man. Drank a lot of that because it
was like iced tea. Well, the bottle's empty,
so you must be feeling good. That's because of
Jeff. So is your spouse out of town right now,
Jeff? She is. She's in Nashville. And when does
she return? I go and pick her up tomorrow afternoon.
Damn it, Archer. Yeah. Every single time I find
a wiggle room and it gets discarded. Hey, you
guys, you know, I want to go out to the driving
range a little bit. You guys into that? You mentioned
that the other day. We were supposed to go Sunday.
Shut up. Shut up. I was hungover from Friday
when we went to that. For two straight days.
Oh, man. Look. Did you go to your in -laws on
Sunday? I did, and it was painful. However, Paul
and I were awesome. At Pictionary. Oh, yeah.
We always are. Yeah, but this, look, I was so
confident. You know how we play Pictionary a
little bit differently. You go down the list
because there's five different things on there.
I was so confident I grabbed two cards. And you
got through one of them. I did. You know how
rare it is to get through one card? I've done
it. And I went through two. It was insane. I've
done it once. Slap happy. Oh, man, I enjoyed.
If you have an opportunity to come over when
we do game night, we have such a great time.
I think board games with friends is so much fun.
Trivia Pursuit. I wouldn't mind playing Trivia
Pursuit again. I like that. Twister. No, not
Twister. Yeah, Naked Twister. No, none of that.
So we do guys versus women. We win. Trivial Pursuit,
Pictionary. We haven't done charades yet. We
ought to do charades. I'm not a huge charade
fan. No? Nobody likes to see you animated. That's
true. You kind of look like a Muppet. Yes. I
don't know. I've never seen it, actually. All
right. This is the second half of the Dudes Like
Us podcast. It's July 15th. Chuck? Our producer
is on standby taking care of our every needs.
He's got the sponsored exchange from Horseneck
Bourbon up on the screen where we've got some
great pictures of our experience that happened
a couple weeks ago. That is so awesome. Look
at those guys. They're in Tulsa, Oklahoma, Houston,
Fort Worth, Austin, San Antonio, and Dallas on
June 27th. That event. Oh, that's next year.
Next year. The upcoming one. Holy shnikes. So
Fort Worth may be. Yeah. For sure. December 6th.
White elephant in December. All right. Well,
we got a special guest for the second half, and
we are drinking a primo whiskey that we picked
up in Forney, Texas. It's fantastic. Well, we
picked it up at Liquor King. Well. It's from
Forney. Just be quiet. Yes. I got some shot.
I'm Jeff. Cricket. Cricket. You have a name.
You have a name, right? Okay. Stop it off. Dudes,
I got some shot. I'm Paul. I'm Jeff. And I'm
Larry. Sorry. I was watching the screen with
the dates of this event coming up. Yeah. Too
much bourbon. Too much bourbon. That's exactly
what's going on. He had to water down his stuff.
That's okay with that. We've got a lot of topics
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I am going to make Brandon and Yasmin save the
date magnets. Yasmin asked me, she goes, do you
happen to make like little wood discs with magnets
so that we can send with our save the date stuff
so they can stick it to the. I've got these stuff.
She's joking. She was asking, do you make these?
Yeah. Because she knows I do the woodwork. She
goes, can you make these? And I was like. Actually,
I can. Just so happens I can. So I walked out
there, and I showed her some of the first ones
I did, which are terrible. I was like, these
are really bad, but here's the size of them.
And we have magnets we stick on the back. She's
like, perfect. So she sent me 12, 13 designs
so far. Oh, wow. And I mocked them up, and she
just needs to decide which one she likes. Very
nice. And I'll buy a bag of them and put them
together, and here's your wedding gift. She has
6 ,000. No, it's going to be a small wedding.
No, it'll be a small wedding. 50? Probably. Okay.
Yeah, pretty small. That's not a lot of magnets.
I think it'll be good. Yeah. It won't be a problem.
It's fun. And it's exciting because we have that
machine to do it all. We discussed previously
about, well, right now, about updating, upgrading,
making a better... Getting a better machine,
something that doesn't take up such a footprint
for those folks out there that don't know what
the hell we're talking about. We've got a CNC
machine downstairs in Jeff's garage that we invested
in to do some projects because we love doing
fun stuff. What's a CNC machine? It's a router
that's on an XYZ axis that will engrave wood.
Metal, et cetera. Mostly wood. Not so much metal
anymore. I don't think we're ever going to do
metal again. Not based on the last project. This
is 101finity. Onefinity. Onefinity. A CNC computer
numerical code machine is a type of automated
equipment used in manufacturing for precise tasks
like cutting and shaping various metals. This
is like, it's a machine that will go down on
a flat piece of wood and just basically carve
out stuff. It can do up to six inches. So if
it wanted to do like a semi -spherical thing,
it could, you know. Yeah, I could do 3D. I've
never, it takes a certain program. Did I say
it right? You said go down. Six inches. Chuck
jumped on that. Yeah, he did. That's why I was
wondering what the hell. And you looked at me
like. That's a very large CNC machine there for
$50 ,000. Yeah, we don't have one like that.
Yeah, it's like four foot by eight foot. It's
for small, cool projects, and it also has a laser,
so we burn stuff as well, which is cool. It's
a hobby. It is a hobby, and I'm not really interested
in if it happened at work, but there's so many
people out there that have machines like this
that can, you know, if you wanted to order a
thousand refrigerator magnets, you might as well
just order a thousand refrigerator magnets, because
Somebody has an industrial machine. It's not
worth buying all the materials and the labor
that it takes to do it. But if you've got a small
one and you want a couple hundred ones for what
we do in the podcast and we want to whip out
some fun stuff. Yeah, friends, family, and listeners.
Walking out the door tonight when we walk out,
we'll show you what we're talking about. All
right. We've got the little dudes like us magnet
there. You seen the podcast? Yeah, you gave me
one of those. Is it on your refrigerator? I did
that up there on it. It's on my gun case. The
Dude Psychos podcast. I did that on the CMT machine.
Yeah. Anyways, thedudesychos -woodcraft on Instagram
and Facebook. Check it out. Second half of the
podcast, we had what? I just said that the Bank
Street stuff? The Bank Street stuff, yeah. Man,
it's got me slap happy. It was very easy to drink.
Crushable, as the producer said. Smooth. Very
smooth. Yeah, one thing I want to get into is,
because we had some folks over for Fourth of
July, and during that... there was discussion
of a potential new dog, new puppy. Yeah. And
Paul was very adamant at the time that this is
not going to happen. Jeff, this is not going
to happen. Well, you know, it happened because
your son, Sean, your son and girlfriend are foster
families or foster parents of different dogs
that come through there. Well, hold on. Don't
dress it like that. Oh, yeah. My son's girlfriend.
Took on a responsibility to help the dog, what
is it called? The Society of Dogs That Don't
Have a Home. It's a very noble deal. They are
foster parents. They are foster parents for displaced
animals that are found out in the open. Yes.
And they're cute, beautiful little animals. Yes.
And they take them in. And they let them live
with them. They try to find homes for them. Yeah.
And they try to cultivate them and culture them.
And so they visit during events like July 4th,
and they bring the little puppy with them, and
they make people go, oh, my God, it's so cute.
And then my son was like, I want that dog dead.
And I'm like, no. No, we're not getting a dog
because we have two other dogs and we have no
idea if the puppy is going to be, how they're
going to get along. And if you don't know, you
have to feed it. And there's a lot of money involved.
And, you know, you vet shots and all this. I
don't care. I'm getting the dog. I'm like, okay.
How old is son? Son is 23. Oh, okay. So it's
a grown -ass man. Yeah, so he can take care of
his dog by himself. He can, but I mean, you know,
right now he's living with us because he's got
a job that's like super far away and they're
in transition right now. Okay. And so I'm like,
okay, well, this can't be a situation where it
becomes my dog. Yeah. You know what I mean? Keep
dreaming. I know exactly what you mean. Yeah,
you know exactly what I mean. Anyway, so we get
the dog and it's a... It's an adorable, cute
little dog, and it's having some accidents here
and there. That's okay. Is it a puppy still?
It's four months old. What is it? What kind of
dog? Is it a mutt? I'm not exactly sure what
kind of dog it is. It's very unique. Big dog?
Small dog? It's going to be probably a 60 -pound
dog. Is it a wolf dog? It's not a wolf. Part
Great Dane is what I understood. Good Lord. That's
bigger than 60 pounds. No, it won't, but I guess
it's a small one. Like Dachshund? Because it
doesn't have very large feet, but who knows?
But I do know. that when we had our Pictionary
event go on, the dog was at our house playing
with Bronco, and they had a great time. And we
got home, and my wife was in a little bit of
a little drunken stupor. And she gets in bed,
and she's kind of like, this bed smells like
pee. That's great. I'm like, wasn't me. I'm sober.
Oh, you're right. You're so good. I didn't drink
until Saturday night, but it doesn't matter.
So the dog had urinated on our bed, unbeknownst
to anybody. And Tara's all like in the bed, all
just like. Grinding into it. Oh, it's so good.
It's so warm. Oh, what is it? What's going on?
It's so warm. Watch that fragrance. This O -Day
dog. Yeah, so we had to strip the bed down. Nice.
Just what you want to do right as you get in
the bed. Just like, fuck, I just want to go to
sleep. I went downstairs, started playing video
games. So, yeah. The puppy is really, really
fun, right? A lot of energy. Sweet puppy. I tell
you what. But it has, in the last day or so,
become very aggressive in its play and its, like,
energy. I'm like, the other two dogs are, like,
you know, wanting to tell it, there's some boundaries
here. You need to settle down. And we made the
mistake, because they kind of went after her.
aggressively and we were like no don't you touch
the puppy and that was a mistake because they
need to tell the puppy what the rules are the
pecking order yes and we that was a mistake that
one moment that reactionary moment i i screwed
up because now they're afraid to correct the
puppy and i'm like no no no you tell her what's
up you go ahead and get in her face because she
was jumping around like crazy. I don't care about
the jumping around. She was literally diving
off the sofa on top of them and biting at them
like a velociraptor. Guys, if I show you a video
of this, you're going to be like, oh my god.
She's out of control. And I'm like, okay, she
needs to know some ground rules here. Well, she's
a puppy. I've never seen a puppy act like this.
So I'm nervous. So you have the new puppy, and
it sounds like you had an existing dog or two.
Two dogs. Well, one and two -thirds. One and
two -thirds dogs. He's Dr. Too Little. Two -thirds.
Yeah, I have a one -eyed, three -legged dog,
yes. What's his name, Lucky? No, probably Unlucky,
right? Sasha, she's wonderful. We took them to
Colorado. This is a funny story. I haven't told
you about my Colorado story. So we went to Colorado
and we visited this horse farm. Who happened
to be family of my son's girlfriend. Okay. Anyway,
you would think that Sasha would, being one -legged
or three -legged and one -eyed, that she would
have some sense of caution. She went after a
horse. Oh, really? And the horse was like, okay,
you want me to kill you? I'll kill you. And I'm
like, stop. And she was like wanting to bite
the horse. And I'm like, okay, whatever. And
then later there was a cow sitting down. She
goes under two fences. crawling through under
two fences to get to this cow sitting down. And
I'm like, that's probably not a good idea. We
may have two dogs. Instead of three now. And
so I run over there and I'm like, anyway, she's
just not all that bright. I bet the cow was like,
Jesus Christ. Yeah, the cow was like, you know
what, bring it. You know, really, I got nothing.
The dogs used to coyotes and all kinds of nefarious
things out there in Colorado. I guess. But the
cow was like, you know, bring it. I got nothing
else to live for here. I made out of leather.
I got my leathers on. It's like, dude, I've tackled
way more than you before. I'm about to be steak.
Anyway, so yeah, she... So what is Dawson's take
on this? Oh, he is smitten. It's disgusting.
Well, what about the behavior of the dog? Oh,
it's cute. Yeah, it's cute right now, but I'm
telling him... this and this and this and that
and you need to be blue. But look, the dog is
going through some growing pains right now. I
mean, the dog has to figure out. The dog has
been displaced. It was over at College Station.
It was over our house. It went over to your house.
It doesn't have a stable home. And it grew up
in the streets. Yes. And so she's been skittish
and nervous up until this point. And she has
turned a corner and she has made this her home.
It is her home. And I'm, and wow, what a change
in personality. And I'm like. So is the son that
is staying at your house, is he going to be there
for a long term or is he? We're trying to figure
that out. It's probably, it'll probably be a
year. A year? Okay. I'm thinking it'll be a year
because his girlfriend hasn't even moved down
from Colorado yet. She's going to have to get
a certification. She's got some medical issues
she's got to resolve. His job is not going to
move from one town to another town until he makes
nothing. He has a very, very low salary. But
he's going to get a very significant bump with
a new promotion probably within six to eight
months. So then they've got to find an apartment.
You know what I mean? So I'm playing the long
game here. It'll probably be a year. They want
to get out earlier than that, and we're encouraging
them to. When you can, bank some money and get
a stable start. Why not? I tried that with Steven.
And take your dog with you. Yeah, I tried that
with Steven. And the dog is going with him. I
can promise you that. Yeah, I tried that with
Steven and they were anxious to start their life.
And I get it. I respect that. Yeah. But I'm like,
dude, if you could bank, you know, $1 ,500 a
month. They'll understand that when they're our
age. I know. They're like, shit, I probably should
have done that. I know. Yeah. For sure. Yeah.
I mean, when you have the opportunity to bank
$1 ,500 to $2 ,000 a month for a down payment
on a home or, you know, just to build up a nest
egg, why not take it? But anyway, I get it. I
get it. I mean, they're older, and they don't
want to be the, you live with your parents? Seriously?
Oh, my God. I moved down when I was 18. As soon
as I graduated, I was gone. Gone. I get it. I
get it. I mean, after college, I was gone. Yeah.
After college, I was gone. I moved down here.
$2 ,500 to my name, and I just picked the shit
up and moved. Wow. You had that much? Yeah. Yeah,
I didn't have $2 ,500. I mean, I graduated college
and moved up here, and I don't think I had. I
delivered pizzas. It was paycheck to paycheck
until I built a nest egg. Yeah, I delivered pizzas
for a while to save up money, and then me and
a buddy just moved down here, didn't have a job.
Oh, that's right. You did that crazy shit. Yeah,
I didn't have anything. So I had $2 ,500 to live
on. And when I was gone, I was going to have
to move back. If only OnlyFans was around when
you did that. Yeah, you would have had some incredible
feet pics. Your feet are amazing. We were talking
in the green room about retirement and finances
and things like that before we started this second
version. Have you guys ever been on your social
security page? No. Actually, I have. It's been
a very long time. I think I got a statement like
10 years ago. No, you go to, I think it's my
SSN. Maybe .gov, something like that. And you
create a login for you, your social security
number and things like that. And it'll tell you
what to do. And it has all your history stuff.
All your work history. Your yearly income from
whenever you started working. From the very beginning,
huh? It'll show you what your social security
payments would be. Plug in an age, 65, 67, whatever
it is. But it's fun to look back at those old
salaries from 30 years ago. I mean, does it show
you when you were even like an hourly employee,
like at my movie theater when I was in college?
As long as it was reportable, yeah. I mean, I
have things on there. I was making $4 .85 an
hour. I have things on there when I had high
school jobs. Yeah, that's what I'm talking about.
I made like $1 ,200 a year. Right. You know,
because it was a summer job or something. You're
right. Looking back on that would be so fun to
do. So walk us through that. So how do you find
out? So I'm at ssa .gov. Let's see. That sounds
right. SSA. Social Security Administration. Is
it card and record? Actually, I think the website
is my, it might be my social security. I don't
remember. My SSA. My SSA. So this is a, are we
doing a case study? Create your personal my social
security account today. That right there. We're
walking everybody through their SSA case study
at the moment. So you got on there and you can
go back and reflect on how much you've made in
the last 15, 20, 30, 40 years, whatever it was.
Since you started paying Social Security. Wow.
So you can actually see how much you're actually
put into the system. Yep. Okay. So this discussion
made me think of this. I think my dad kept his
very first paycheck from General Electric. And
I found it. Yes, he's holding it right now. What
year? Insane. This is going to be great. General
Electric, which is no slouch company. No, I don't
know if it has a date on it. I'm sure it does
somewhere. Oh, it does. But his net pay was $57
.69. A week? For... What was the pay period?
For 40 hours of work. Wow. A week. Oh, my gosh.
That's a dollar an hour. It was $1 .73. For a
big company. An hour. GE. General Electric. $1
.73. I think this was his first. His gross pay
was $68 .59. His net pay was $57 .69. Made $1
.73 an hour. God almighty. My dad was a chemical
engineer for golf, and I remember a long time
ago, my mom told me that when they first got
married in 1955, my dad was making $400 a month.
This was... Yeah, this is... Same kind of thing.
This was January 10th, 1965. Wow. And he probably
was like, yeah, I'm rolling in the dough, baby.
I'm going to hit the bars every Friday. 50 bucks
for 40 hours. How many years did your dad work
for GE? He retired there at age of 60, so 40
plus years. Those were the days, man, when you
stayed with a company for life. Yep, he did.
But let's put things into perspective. So how
much did you say a week? 60, 50 something? $57.
Okay, so in 1965, beers were four cents a pint.
They weren't quite that low. I'm kidding. But
everything was cheaper. Remember they say a movie
was a nickel. You know, he used to tell me that.
But, yes, I mean, stuff was cheaper. It was cheaper.
But you're getting paid $1 .73 an hour. Taxes
were lower. Taxes were lower. Yes, they were.
But, you know, the whole thing was. Look up how
much a beer was in 1965 domestically, Chuck.
See if you can find that. I bet you a beer was.
Probably a dime or something like that. What
year did you say? 1965? 1965. Do you think it
was 80 cents for a beer? I have no idea. But
that's a lot if he makes a dollar something an
hour. And his paycheck was about $65? It's a
week's pay for a six -pack. $57 net. Oh, a six
-pack. A six -pack of beer was $1 .76. Or it's
an hour's pay. An hour's pay. So an hour, you
can get a six -pack. $57 net. According to this
calculator, that was... $57 in 1965 in today's
dollars is $583. A week. A week. There we go.
I don't know what his job was. Well, I mean,
and that's a very respectable salary. I think
economics has fucked us. There's no way we're
making the same percentage. So he was just out
of the Navy. So he was. In 65, he was almost
23. He would have turned 23 in April. So he was
22 when he got this check. So Chuck, how much
was a beer at a bar? Oh, at a bar. At a bar.
Like going, you know, hey, you get off of work
Friday, you just got paid at GE. In 1965, your
dad was going with his buddies to the bar. It's
$30 ,000 a year in today's dollars. And it says
a 16 -ounce beer at a bar would have likely been
less than a quarter. Oh, my God. That's insane.
Yeah. It's probably 15 cents. And now they're,
what, eight bucks? Well, I remember when I was
in college in the early 80s at the Dixie Chicken
Beer Joint there at Northgate on the north side
of Texas A &M University, a Shiner beer was 65
cents and a Miller Lite was 85 cents. Shiner
was cheaper? It was. Yeah, I know when I was
in college, I could get a six -pack of Schaefer's
for $2. Schaefer's. But why would you do that?
It was $2. It was two bucks. I know, I know.
That's why. I remember a 12 -pack of Pearl beer.
Oh, man. Yes. For like $4. I'd buy the big -ass
Quartz for 89 cents of Pearl. Now our kids want,
you know. all this expensive shit why don't you
get like the bush light i have taste dad you
remember strohs oh yeah it's not a bad beer it
was a great beer yep and ham you ever try him
i loved ham ham was great hams was good but hams
what you can't get that in texas that was that
was a wisconsin Do they still make ham? I don't
think they still make it, but when it was available,
I could not find it anywhere but Wisconsin. It
had a logo of like a polar bear or something
on it. I don't remember, but it was good. My
dad used to sing the jingle. The jingle. It's
two M's. Yeah, there it is. How about Olympia
beer? Olympia. Oh, that's a Canadian beer. Seattle.
Molson Quartz. North America. Well, Molson is
Canadian. Did Molson buy Coors? Yes, they merged,
yes. So they merged. So is it a Canadian company
now or is it an American company now? Coors.
Strange Brew? Well, Ham's is Minnesota. What
are you singing, Molson? You've never seen the
Strange Brew? Oh, yeah. Oh, right, right. We
had a couple of beers in Cincinnati. We had Hutipol,
which was in Cincinnati. We also had Weedemans.
I don't think they make Weedamins anymore. I
think I've seen that before. When I was a kid,
my dad and all his buddies drank Falstaff. Oh,
I remember seeing that. Which was awful. I didn't
know that one. Which was weird. I know when I
was growing up, the cool thing to do was have
a beer can collection. Yeah. Did you have one?
I did not have one. That's how I know all these.
I had a Ham's, a Falstaff, a Genesee. I had all
kinds of weird ones. Well, I was 10, so I wasn't
a beer aficionado. You know what? He started
early, Sean. The thing that kind of started that
was Jimmy Carter's brother, Billy. And Billy
started a beer called Billy Beer. Billy Beer.
And it was kind of this tee -hee -hee, ha -ha
-ha novelty, Billy Beer, because it's the president's
son, right? Right. So people would start getting
these Billy Beer cans. Ah, look what I have.
And then they started collecting beer cans. That
was sort of the genesis of it. Interesting. Yeah,
I had a beer can. I probably had about 25. But
they were tin. They weren't aluminum back in
the day. They were with the pull tabs. Oh, the
pull tab. And those things were everywhere. On
the ground? Yeah. I guess they got buried because
nobody picked them up. No one picked them up.
No one's picking up that shit. It got buried
under layers and layers of dirt. They're like
little blades because they'd slice your fingers
and your feet if you stepped on them wrong. They
would. And then they invented the pop top. Yes.
Interesting. I used to love, we used to vacation
in Wisconsin and I loved doing that because I
would get beers that you just, you couldn't get
down here. Like lining Kugel was not down here.
Lining Kugel. It was a very, it was a very local
beer, but you could get all the different flavors
of, of lining Kugel. Here you can only get like
the shandy or the summer, summer shandy. Yeah.
But up there, I mean, we, that's all we got when
we, when we stayed at this. that we would rent
every year. My parents would rent it every year.
I like a Shandy. It's a beer with lemonade in
it. It's not bad, but you should try the other
Leinenkugels. They're not here. They used to
make an orange Shandy that you used to be able
to get down here that I really liked. You can't
find it anymore. I just wish that the standard
Leinenkugel stuff was down here. I would totally
buy it. When they started doing that, that's
when the craft beer stuff started. That was kind
of the birth of that when they started adding
the – there was like a Wicked's Pete Ale. They
just added different flavors to it. I mean, part
of me was kind of like, that's gay. The other
part was kind of like, I kind of like that. Yeah,
I like the Orange Shandy. I drank the shit out
of that one summer. Back in the day when we were
young, the beer in the store was Budweiser, Schlitz,
and Miller. That was pretty much it. Ballantine,
Pabst, Rheingold. You're saying before Miller
Lite. You're saying Miller. Long time ago. Yeah.
And as I mentioned in the first part of the cast,
walking down the bourbon aisle, it's almost overwhelming.
It is. It's the same with the beers, man. It
is. You go to the beer aisle, it's like, what?
I've never heard of most of these. Yeah. I was
really upset during COVID because my beer was,
not MGD Lite, Miller High Life Light. Miller
High Life, they still have. Miller High Life
Light, even though it was around since the 40s,
they canceled it during COVID. And then I was
like... I blame Fauci. Dude, yeah. I mean, seriously,
though, when you have a go -to for a beer and
suddenly they just discontinue it, I was like...
I mean, I know there's a lot of beer choices,
but it's... Yeah, the blue one. The blue one.
That's what I used to drink. And I'd get the
whole 36 -pack. It was great. Looks like you
could get it. Oh, 30 -pack. Sorry, 30 -pack.
Can you still buy that? What? No, you cannot.
Unless they brought it back. It says it's free.
$16 for a 30 -pack. Miller beer. Did they bring
it back? Miller beer. Is this a joke that we're
looking at right now? Just the traditional Miller
in the gold can, the champagne of beers. Yes.
It's a good beer. The Miller High Life. Miller
High Life. That's it. Then they came up with
Miller Genuine Draft, which is the champagne.
MGD, MGD Light. And back in the day, if you wanted
to be hoity -toity, you got... Michelob. Oh,
yeah. Michelob was the expensive beer. Yeah.
Remember when they went through the ice phase?
Everything was ice. Yeah. What was it? Something
house ice. Bud ice and all that. Ice house. That's
what it was. Ice house. Now, what was so fancy
about the ice house? It was higher proof, right?
I mean, it was higher. I don't know. Higher alcohol
content. I think it had higher alcohol content.
It did. I think it did. And that was the draw
of it. Yeah. Bud ice. Molson ice. Yes, everything
ice. Milwaukee's best ice. What the hell, man?
Natural ice. Yeah, what was the draw of that?
It was a malt liquor, I think, and it had more
alcohol in it. Yeah, standard alcohol content
of 5 .5. They froze it and filtered some ice
crystals out, so it was kind of stronger. Oh.
Well, it was. Ah, there you go. And we were,
you know. There's Chuck the producer with the
tick ticker. Ticker ticker. And we were the macho
college kids drinking the ice. Ice beer. I didn't
like it. I didn't like the ice stuff. I didn't
either. I didn't either. So when you go to the
grocery store now to pick up a 12 -pack of beer,
what do you buy? Dude. Probably, I like the Yingling.
Yeah, those are good. I like the Yingling, the
light. I like the light beers. Like I said in
the first half. The light lagers. Yeah, the light
lagers. I tried every single craft beer out there,
the really rich stuff and stuff like that. I
can't drink that stuff anymore. I'll get one
every now and then, and it's almost too much
for me. So I like the light beers now. Just because
I... you know, this is crazy I'm drinking this,
but, you know, the really hearty, hardcore beer
is really strong ones. I have a hard time drinking
it. Yeah, said the guy drinking a bourbon with
the consistency of molasses. I got to break in
with breaking news that you just handed to me.
So it says, Jeff just handed me his phone, Miller
High Life Light beer is still being produced.
It was discontinued in 2021, reintroduced last
year, 2024. Currently available in select Midwest
markets. Let's see. You can check availability
near you using the brand's product locator. Dude,
I have to get Total Wine to start stocking this
again. This is huge news for me. I don't care.
I'll do it. You'll probably get a taste and go,
this is like shit. God, this Miller Lite's way
better than this. I'll get Miller Lite. I can't
believe that. I don't mind Miller Lite. That
is great news. I'm glad we did this podcast tonight.
I just found out great news for me. I can see
the relief on your face. I know. I kind of gravitate
towards some lighter stuff. I like Rolling Rock.
Yeah, I like Rolling Rock. Pennsylvania beer.
I like Heineken. I really do. I like Heineken.
I don't mind it. I'm not a huge Heineken fan.
I can drink it, but there's a lot of others I
prefer better. I like Killian's Red. That was
a high night in college when Mom and Dad came
in. Let's get Killian's Red. You remember Red
Dog? I love Flipper, the big red dog. No. No?
You guys never drank Red Dog? Is that a cartoon?
No, it was a drink. Beer! There was a red beer
craze. Oh, yeah, the premium beer, the Red Dog.
Yeah, there was a, like you said, Killian's Red.
Killian's Red. Yeah, there was a Red craze while
I was in college, and Red Dog was one of them.
It was good. How about Gilly's Big Mouth? Remember
those? There it is, Red Dog. I remember Mickey,
Big Mouth Mickey's. Yeah, Mickey's Big Mouth.
Cream ale, isn't it? Yeah. What other cream ales
were there? There was a Genesee. No, I think
it was just a regular lager, but it had a big
opening at the top. Yeah, man, that was like
one of my first experiences. And I tell you what,
I lived in New Jersey, and there was a creek
by our house. Oh, it's malt liquor. Somebody
went fishing, and I guess they got up, and they
went somewhere. I don't know where, but they
left their cooler. There were like 12 Mickeys
in there. And my friends were, I had like two
of my buddies. We walked by there. Oh, look,
there's the cooler there. And you were like eight
years old? We opened it, I don't remember how
many, 12, 13. And you drank them? Well, I had
one or two. I mean, hell, they were ice cold.
There was ice in there, and I popped the lid
on that. I was like, this is the best shit I
fucking ever drank in my life. Oh, my God. And
it had the big old mouth, so you could slam it.
I was thirsty. And they came back, and they were
like, what the fuck, man? No, they never came
back. I don't know. I guess they actually do
things, and you forget, or maybe. I don't know.
I don't have. Yeah, the first. I do, but I got
toasted off of it. The first beer I had was Little
King's Cream Ale. Oh, yummy. They used to sell
seven ounce bottles. That sounds so perverted.
Seven ounces. Seven ounce bottles. A little green
bottle. And you could buy like a 30 pack. You'd
need a 30 pack. Yeah. And you'd go to a party
and everyone would bring one of these. And there'd
be these green bottles everywhere. How old were
you? This was in high school? This was in high
school, yeah. You underage drank? I was 21 in
high school. You were 21 in high school? What
the hell, man? We went to a party, my wife and
I, and we go to the store. And we were arguing
about something because she wasn't sure what
she wanted to drink. And, you know, she would
just pick something out for me. It's like, no,
you go outside. You go get some drinks. Yeah,
that doesn't go well. She went inside and got
drinks. And she picked me up something. She picks
me up like a 10 -pack of these little 7, 8 -ounce
bottled beers. And she gets in the car. She was
like, I know she did it on purpose. I get to
the freaking venue, wherever the hell we're at.
I drink all of them in 30 minutes. It was ridiculous.
Those seven, eight ouncers, that is silly. You
could kill them really fast. Oh, my gosh. I was
like, glug, glug, glug, done. Seriously? They're
teasers. One of the beer brands, their smaller
bottle, it was called a Pony. Was that Budweiser?
Pony Keg? No, not the Keg. It was the smaller
little bottles of beer. Was it Miller Ponies?
Miller High Life. Miller had a pony beard. Oh,
good Lord. Yeah, he's got these little tiny ones
up there. Yeah, seven ounce. Yeah, that's what
the little king sizes were. Why? Come on. Oh,
look at those little ones to the left of the
Miller Lite. I've seen those. What are those?
Oh, those are Miller High Life. Oh, they're so
dainty. Miller High Life. They're adorable. Yeah,
the pony eight pack. Yeah, Miller High Life ponies.
Why would anybody do that? I don't know. I guess
if you don't want it to get warm. Well, I mean,
I don't know. Maybe you're hopping in the car,
and you're driving to a venue real quick, and
you've got a 10 -minute ride, and you want to
slam a beer. Then you slam a 12 -ounce. Maybe
you have small hands. Yeah, small hands. That
explains it. It is tapered. So when did the big
mouth cans start? Remember the wide mouth? In
the 70s, I think. No. It was later than that.
When did the wide -mouthed cans kick into play?
I remember those in high school. And, dude, you
could suck them down way faster when they did
the wide -mouthed. Remember that? Yeah, yeah.
I remember that in high school. Here we go. See,
I thought so. 90s. Late 90s. No, those Mickey
big -mouthed. No. We're talking about the cans,
the wide -mouthed cans. Well, yeah, the cans,
but the big -mouthed Mickeys, I mean, those were.
That was a bottle. Yeah, they were a big old,
they were great. Like a jar. Yeah, we're talking
about the cans. I'm telling you, I haven't really,
we haven't dove into that experience, but when
I drank like two or three of those Big Mouth
Mickey's, it was hot, it was a summer day, and
I slammed that frickin' beer, and I got shit
-faced. And I didn't even know what being shit
-faced was about. You were 12. 12. I had no idea
what this was, what was going on. And that started
a long string of just abusive drinking. Look
at that. The camera, you had to actually have
a can opener to get your beer. Yeah, you had
to have the church key. The church key. That's
what it was called. Of all things, to open a
beer. Yeah. Oh, that's funny. I've also had these
beers where the whole lid comes off of the can.
What? Yeah. Yeah, I've had those. Like a soup
can? No, it's like that blue can right there.
Like a soup can. Yeah. Yes. The whole lid pulls
off. I've had those. I've never seen that. God,
you can suck those down so fast. It's lacerated
lips. No, I mean, this is nice, smooth. Yeah,
it was smooth. A nice, smooth circle. It was
rounded. Wow. Normally, if I go to the store
to buy beer, I just get Coors Light. You're a
Coors Light guy. Well, you did. You didn't do
this on purpose, but it was a result of a party
that you had, and you bought specific brands,
and you recall the ratio or how much people were
drinking through the night. And you had shared
that with me at one point. This was years ago
when we were working together. You said you had
a party at your house, and you bought Bud Light,
Coors Light. And people gravitated towards a
specific beer. The one that went like hotcakes
was the Ultra. Ultras are so hot. All the young
generation is nothing but Ultras. As a matter
of fact, we ran out. I had to send somebody to
the store to get some more. Because it tastes
like water. And I think if you're new to beer.
it's a good beer to start with because it's not
real strong. But it's not a starter for a lot
of people. It's their go -to. Like, it's my oldest
son's go -to. Well, it is now, yes. Well, I don't
know. I think it's marketing. It's got to be.
I like it because it's light. It's not heavy.
Like, if I go out to get a cheeseburger, fries,
and a beer, I like to get an Ultra because it
doesn't fill you up. It doesn't bloat you. Exactly.
Yeah. I got you. It's only 95 calories, 2 .6
carbs. Well, I find that when you take a beer
and you pour it in a pipe, and I know I'm weird.
I'm weird. But when I take my beers, I like to
deflate them. I'll take a straw and I'll stick
it in the glass and I'll stir it. And I'll try
to... Of a beer? Of a beer. I'll try to make
it more flat. Yes. Yes. Have you ever had some
of those super... carbonized beer and you drink
it and then you're bloated. You're bloated and
you're like, oh my God, I feel so horrible. I
feel like a beached whale. And then all of a
sudden, oh, this big old guttural burp comes
out and then you're like, oh, I feel better.
I feel better now. Let me go drink another one.
Yeah, but that's, I kind of like doing that.
So you put a straw in it and you stir it? Yeah,
or the idea is you stir it. You stir the beer.
I've seen, he does it a lot. I've seen him do
that. Yeah, you just get it, you make it foam.
I've never done that. I drink beer like a man.
Well, I mean... Yeah, where you get bloated.
He's speechless. This is rare. I was like, really?
No, I get what you're saying. Actually, I do
that very same thing with sodas, like root beer
or Coke. I like it a little... Because of the
bubbles? I like it a little flatter than how
it comes out of the can, so I get it. I see what
you're talking about. I hear you. I guess I can't
wait that long. I just have to... Drink it as
fast as possible. Well, we ended up going to
a venue this past Friday. We talked about getting
blown up on Friday. Well, Paul was out of town
gallivating in Colorado. Good for you, by the
way. I'm not dogging you on that. I'm happy.
I wish I was able to do that with my wife. But
anyways. It was fun. So we went out. There was
a Scott. Scott Cash from JS Held and Larry Hokai.
Shout out to you two guys. They were, I guess,
sponsored or they kind of took care of an opportunity
for us to go out to a venue. It was the Guitar
Sanctuary McKinney. Guitar, yeah. They're at
the Adriatica region. Yeah, Adriatica of Virginia
in McKinney. And it is a fantastic venue. You
know, they do weddings there, small events. It
looked really cool. Yeah, it was a nice stage.
It was a raised stage. They had a balcony area.
Yeah, they have an excellent sound system there.
Not a huge venue, probably 150, couple hundred
people. Maybe. And Sass Jordan played. A Sass
Jordan -like person played there, for sure. Oh,
whatever. It was not Sass Jordan. It was not,
but it was still a liar. Jeff, you're a liar.
She walked up there, and I was like, I'm going
to tell her. That was Maylee Thomas. It was the
Maylee Thomas Band, and they opened up for this
particular venue. Shout out to them. They were
fantastic. I'll tell you what. The band, by the
way, she was a great singer. You know, the band
was okay. They had some original music, and I'll
tell you what really made or break them was the
saxophone player. Yeah, he was good. Yeah, he
was really good. I found his name is Nerdy Leon.
That's his name. He is from Hungary. Oh, I'm
sorry. Seems like very reliable information.
Yeah, he's from Hungary, which is right next
to Thurstory. Like Budapest? No. Look, this guy
was an incredible saxophone player. That's cool.
Incredible. Is he a regular member of the band?
Yeah, he's not in that picture there, but I checked
their platform, and he's on all the rest of them.
So he is a regular. Well, that's cool. Now, that's
not an updated picture. So shout out to the Maylee
Thomas Band. They were fantastic. So Maylee's
husband, George Fuller, he was an accompanist
musician. He's a guitarist. He had like a variety
of guitars up there, which seemed to me kind
of pompous. But yeah, whatever. If I had that
stuff, I'd be doing the same thing. But he wasn't
a fantastical guitarist. I mean, he wasn't ripping
out some major solos or anything like that. But
he was solid. He played, and the band worked
well. The bass player was great. I don't have
anything. They were a good to very good band.
They were an excellent band. They were fun to
see. They're local. I'd recommend you go see
them. She actually mainly also hosts a weekly
radio show and a podcast, 95 .3 on the range.
Interesting. I don't know if you guys knew that.
I didn't know that. I like that station. She
plays on there. She's got the homegrown music,
interviews Texas talent, and the stories behind
their music. I like that. It was fun. It was
a great night. Yeah, that's part of it right
there. I don't think YouTube could bust us for
playing this. Yeah, no kidding. Yeah, it's off
of YouTube. She's cute, too. I mean, she's a
little bit older. The Average Bear? Older than
me, for sure. I don't even care about that. It
was fun. The second band was Texas Flood. If
you are a fan of Stevie Ray Vaughan, these guys
were fan -fucking -tastic. That's all I've got
to say. They were top -notch. I mean, I'm not
a huge Stevie Ray Vaughan aficionado. I know
a few things. This guy's good. This guy's really,
really good. The guitarist. Actually, the bass
player was the drummer. I was watching the drummer,
and he's just so... He seems so laid back. He's
just... So chill. Yeah, he was. Effortless. He's
effortless. Yeah, he was just... This was more
animated here than he was the other night. But
they're outstanding. I recommend it. If you like
this stuff, go find it. If you like blues, rock,
Texas -style rock... These guys were tremendous.
I'm reiterating exactly what you just said, but
they were great. And he was so good with the
guitar. So good. I mean, and we were right up
there. We had table one. Yeah, we were right
in front. Table one and table two is what we
had. So we were right there in front. We were
two feet from him. And to see somebody play like
that is just incredible. You know what I would
appreciate about this? A lot of times we go to
Rebel and we watch these kind of cheesy cover
bands, right? And I'm not saying they're not
good artists, but they're all about being Motley
Crue or Van Halen or they're cheesy cover bands,
right? They're not their own bands, you know,
being their own people. And it's okay to play
cover songs, right? But you don't have to be,
you're not a gimmick band, right? And these kind
of bands seem like they're not gimmick bands.
They're real bands that play some of their original
stuff. But again, they're just guys that are
phenomenal musicians doing their thing. Yeah,
all three of them. I think the bass player popped
a string for a song. Is that what you said, Chuck?
Somebody said he popped a string. He had to swap
out the bass. The Texas Flood is a blues band
based in Dallas, Texas, gained recognition for
their authentic tribute to Stevie Ray Vaughan.
The band's kept... Captivating performances,
channel the spirit of the blues legend, making
them the premier Stevie Ray Vaughan tribute band
in the world, they're claiming here. At the store,
forefront of the Texas Flood guitarist, vocalist
Tommy Katona. Katona originally from Hungary.
Maybe that was the guy that's from Hungary. The
other guy's from, I forget actually. Exhibits
are remarkable. Anyways, he was just badass.
I can go into this whole. I mean, singing wise,
he even sounded like Stevie Ray Vaughan, I thought.
Nice. They've got some other concerts. We're
in the garbs, the hat, the traditional stuff.
If you like that stuff, it was very fun to see.
I enjoyed it. I love music. We really enjoy going
out to these venues, especially such a small
one. And I don't want to say we smuggled anything
because that'd be rude to smuggle. whiskey bottles
into a venue. 17 mini bottles. That wasn't 17.
It's rude. It was close. It was 16, I think.
No, it was 12 plus 5 plus 1. It was 17. 18 of
them. Wow. Anyway, so it was quite the night.
They didn't have much of a... It was elegant.
They have a catering style food and beverage
company that goes in there and hosts these events.
Oh, okay. So they have a little bar set up. If
you want to order food, they've got like a four
or five piece menu, which included dessert. But
they've got, you know, there's a lot of elegant
weddings there. It was fun. I recommend you go
check out the Guitar Sanctuary at the Adriatica
in McKinney, Texas. All right. Very cool. And
also shout out to the Maylee Thomas Band and
the Texas Flood Tribute Band. Yeah, I'm sorry
I missed it. When you guys were flooding me with
these, you know, make you jealous pictures, I
got to admit, I was a little bit jealous, especially
when you said Sash Jordan's here. And I was like,
I turned to Shelly. I turned to Shelly. I was
like, there's no way Sash Jordan. And then I
looked at the picture and I'm like, how could
it might be? It might be Sash Jordan. And then
I started to get pissed. I was like, how am I
missing Sash Jordan? But then I'm thinking to
myself, we're talking about Jeff here. There's
no fucking way. There's no fucking way it's Sass
Jordan. And I was right. So anyway, sorry. Sass
Jordan's a great artist, too. Now, do you remember
when the concert was done, you kind of bust through
the line and invited him to the podcast? You
said it didn't go very well? What? Oh, who? You
asked who? The band members? When I say busted
through the line, I'm being a little cavalier
when I said that. So look, at the end of the
concert, at the end of the event, there's a lot
of people crowding around wanting to chat with
them. And it was just like this one person, this
girl. Oh, how you doing? Hold on. Are you talking
about the lead singer of the band? Yes. So I
was just like, hey, here's our card. We'd love
to have you on the podcast. I kind of interrupted
a couple people. Oh, boy. It didn't go bad. It
was just a matter of fact. You have to be assertive
when you do something sometimes. I mean, I didn't
know how it was perceived because, frankly, I
was a little toasty. I wonder if he understood
you. I had a perfect conversation in my head.
What did he say? He said, oh, great, thanks.
I'll take a look at this. Did he really? Yeah.
Or did he say? That was his impression of what
he said. Get the fuck out of here, dude. No.
I mean, I think the people that I kind of stepped
over to get into there to do it, you know. Stepped
over. Knocked to the ground. Again, sometimes
you got to be assertive. I wasn't rude. I was
just aggressive. When you came back, I was assertive.
Well, I was at the back. You came out here, he
goes. Yeah, that didn't go exactly great. That's
what she said. Yeah, well, you know, again, you
know, whatever. No, he's good. It is what it
is. Well, they're going to, did you say they're
going to be? At Prairie House this weekend. No,
this weekend, but they're at the Hub 21. Hub
1, December 6th. September 6th. Oh, is it December
6th or was that September? September 6th. We
may want to try to do it. I would want to do
that. That'd be fun. We may want to try to do
it. Larry, you want to join us? What do you say,
Larry? I'm sorry, but I'm going to be in Europe.
Oh. Excuse me, senor. Are you following your
favorite band that travels? As a matter of fact,
we are. Oh, no way. Yeah. Yeah, I remember you
talking about this band. Yeah, yeah. We already
on the books had a schedule trip to go to Italy,
Florence, and to Rome. And this band is playing
in Italy. No, they're not. I happened to be looking
at their website, and I saw that they had a European
tour coming up. They're going to all over the
place. London again, and Ireland, Spain, and
there was one in Paris. Okay. So I said to the
wife, I said, you know, their Paris date, it
kind of corresponds with when we're going to
Italy. So I think we need to make a leg and add
Paris to the itinerary. Just for that. And make
the concert. She goes, I'm in. Let's do it. Wow.
So we're going to fly to Paris, go to the concert,
do Paris touristy things. Go to the Louvre. We
are going to go to the Louvre. See the Mona Lisa.
Go to the Eiffel Tower. Did you know that the
Eiffel Tower is the singular most popular selfie
photo object in the world? Oh, God. How nauseating.
That's a new thing because selfie didn't exist
15 years ago. True. Are you sure? So then we're
going to hop a short one -hour flight to Florence,
do Florence things, and see the statue of David
that you were looking at. Oh, yeah. Nice. Look
at you. Look at this penis. And then take a train
down to Rome and do Roman things. Who's the band,
again, that you follow? This is a band out of
Mobile, Alabama. It's called the Red Clay Strays.
That's right, the Red Clay Strays. Do they not
play in Texas? Oh, yeah, sure. Well, I mean,
are you going to let us know when they're here
so we can all go and see them together? They're
coming to, I want to say it's in October, September.
I can't remember. They're going to be in Irving
at that Toyota, what is that thing called? Oh,
wow. The Toyota thing. Hub 21. The arena. Yeah,
no. I mean, that's a big deal. Toyota Music Factory.
They're big time now, man. Yeah. Oh, yeah. They
weren't grabbing it. Their honky -tonk days are
over. Yeah. Really? Yeah. Oh, I didn't know they
had. So since you've been on the podcast, they
have grown. Yeah, on September 23rd. In the last
several years. They'll be at the Pavilion of
the Toyota Music Factory. Yeah, Toyota Music
Factory. Wow. They played at the Country Music
CMA things. CMV thing. I had no idea. That was
in Frisco, wasn't it? Yeah, it was. Down at the
Star. Yeah. Wow, seats are quite pricey. Yeah.
What? Dude, seriously. So they're doing very
well. Lawn seats are $111. A seat in Rove D is
$254. So you saw them when they were nothing.
Amy and I would go to venues like... and honky
-tonks. I mean, you just got in free, right?
Of course. Because they wanted you to buy drinks
and the food and stuff. Of course. Then tickets
went up to maybe $7 to $10. $15 was high. And
now look at them. And now they're $200 a seat.
Oh, no, no, they're not. For a shitty seat. Well,
I mean, in the Irving one, that is not a seat.
You're not going to get anything for $200. You
can get a lawn seat for $111. The less expensive
seat after that is $254. Yeah. Damn. Paul, they
have a huge following now, a huge fan base. How
cool is that? But I got to hand it to them. I
mean, they worked their ass off, right? I mean,
they toured and toured and toured for... Almost
10 years. Damn. To get this far. That's hard.
Is that what we need to do with the podcast?
Is that we need to just keep working on it for
10 years? So we got five more years before we
can do it. That's great. They picked up every
bar and honky -tonk and beer joint gig that they
can get their hands on. So how'd they get their
break? Usually somebody has to be there in a
small honky -tonk and say, damn, you guys are
good. I want to be your agent. Oh, are you their
agent? I don't know when it was. I want to say
a year or two ago they signed with a record label.
I was going to say, somebody had to see them
and be like, okay, these guys are good. And they
got a record label and boom, they're on Amazon.
So now they've got backing, management. That's
fantastic. And they know exactly who you are.
You've been there from the beginning with those
guys. They know you. Yeah. I mean, are you on
their list? I mean, do they know? They don't
know -know you, of course, but I mean, I don't
know. Actually, they may. They do know -know
you. I mean, do you see them? They're like, we
recognize that Larry over there. No, they don't
say that, right? Oh, sure. Yeah, yeah. They go,
hey, Larry and Amy, how's it going? Yeah, they
know him. They know them personally. All that.
It's cool. Yeah, you don't remember the last
podcast. He was talking about how they, you know,
basically like kind of groupies wherever they
played, you followed because it was an excuse
to go visit somewhere you had never been before.
That's exactly what it was. Are you going to
go to the Irving one? Oh, yeah. Yeah. But you've
been to Irving. Why would you go there? I'm kidding.
What? I said it was an excuse. Oh, I get it.
Okay, yeah. So when you figure out what you're
going to do with the tickets, let me know. I
may be interested in taking a backseat somewhere.
I don't know if they have boxes or how that stuff
works. We're also going to Red Rocks in Denver.
Oh, very nice. I've never been there. See them
there and then, of course, at the Paris show.
Super cool. I think the Paris show is going to
be number, I think, 28. 28 shows we've seen.
That's crazy. I knew you had a band that was
like, yeah, that was your thing. And, I mean,
guys, it sounds silly. No, it's crazy. It's a
great thing for you to do. It has been so much
fun. I got to tell you, following these guys,
they are so nice and so down to earth. Just gentlemen.
I mean, they're yes or no, sir, kind of guys.
And Amy and I have had a ball following them
around. We've met other people that follow them
around and have kind of become friends with them.
It's been a lot of fun. Do you meet them when
you're going to Paris to see them? Are you going
to see some of those people? Are you in communication
with them? Like, hey, look, we're going to be
at this Paris one. Do you want to meet here for
dinner beforehand? Well, the Paris one is a little
extreme, but Irving and Red Rocks, yeah, we've
made contact with some of our cronies. Oh, that
is cool. Yeah, we're going to hook up. You should
let the band know, hey, look, you got any direct
communication with them? Dude, they don't care.
Well, I mean, some do, some don't. Who knows?
They don't care. That'd be cool, though. They
do care about their fans. You know what we haven't
done? Talk about the next bourbon. It's not a
bourbon, is it? It's a whiskey. It is a 100 %
wheat whiskey. You guys are so crazy. I know.
It's not a bourbon. It's not. I know. We're so
anal. Stop it. We're so anal. This is our second
tap on this. This is the Lone Elm. It's a single
barrel straight wheat whiskey from Forney, Texas.
Yes. Would not expect this from Forney, Texas.
But it exists. Forney, Texas is a little bit
east of Dallas, Texas. Yeah, east of Mesquite.
It's 121 proof. Yeah, 121 proof. It's got a big
old ding -dong on it, and I like it. I liked
it the first time. I like it the second time
even more. It took a while for it to open up
on the second time. I don't know what happened
the first. I'm with Larry. At first, I was kind
of like, yeah, this is. It's got a set of nuts.
It's dark. It has a meaty taste to it. It's very
rich. Very rich. Yeah. It doesn't say what the
age statement is, I don't think. It has an extreme
dark cherry licorice burn. And I like all that.
Stone fruit just kind of has that thick. I don't
know how to explain it. It's viscous, yeah. Currant.
It's oily, and it sticks. Yeah, the cherries,
the really dark fruits. Milk, chocolate, it's
buttery. This has, to me, it's got all that stuff
I enjoy. Yeah, it does not have an age statement.
I'm really surprised. I'm really curious how
long it's been aged. It says age four years.
I don't know what bottle you're drinking from,
but I got a totally different opinion. Looking
at the whiskey through the clear glass bottle,
Jeff, you're right. It's very dark. I mean, it's
either like a strong tea or a weak coffee. It's
that dark. It's very dark. This is way too strong
for me. You guys are more seasoned than I am.
That's what I'm saying. With all your vermin
drinking, we've damaged our palates. Yeah. But,
boy, this is a beating for me. It's rich. I had
to water mine down. Yeah, that's why sometimes
we find it hard when people go, what's a good
bourbon out there? Well, we talk about this.
We're like, but they'd have the reaction you
did. It'd be way too much for them, so we can't
recommend these type of things. No. So you have
to find good ones like the one we had up here,
right? But we don't drink that stuff anymore.
So it's like. What do we recommend? If somebody
is dipping their toe into the higher proof, richer
flavors, we usually stick around the 100. Yes.
Right? Yeah. And we say, try that, you know?
Drink that, and then, yeah. Most people, when
they drink this, have the reaction you do. It's
like, this is just, it's too much. Yeah. But
I will go with you, Sean. With my watered down
version, I do taste a lot of cherry. Strong in
the cherry. There's some vanilla going on in
there. My watered -down version, it has a very
good flavor to it, but straight out of the bottle,
I'm sorry. That's an acquired thing. We worked
up to this. We didn't start out drinking this
stuff. We started out drinking the 80, the 90.
It's got a root beer kind of finish on there.
You ever had those root beer lozenges that you
had? Man, it's got 100 % wheat by itself, like
the Frey 100 % wheat they have. This is completely
different to that. But it has some similarities.
And that lozenger root beer is part of that.
Theirs is a little bit more buttery, but it still
has that wheat taste. I'm a fan of 100 % wheat.
The Oregon wheat? We may want to revisit that
because we didn't like it when we first got it.
We didn't because it was like grassy. Yeah. And
plus, I don't think the proof was up there. Not
that that's... There's a bottle of whiskey out
there made with Oregon spirits, right? And they
have 100%. We bought it because we're like, fuck
it. We're going to try to figure out if we like
this stuff or not. Smoothness -wise, I kind of
give it a high score. I know that the burn that
I feel in my throat, that's the alcohol, right?
This has a very high alcohol content, but take
that burn out. It is... It is kind of a smooth
liquor. It's a smooth whiskey. But, boy, it is
way more better watered down. That's all right.
Will you show me how much you got? Am I supposed
to? Well, you still have some. You have some.
Why are you adding to it? I had nothing, and
I added a little bit to contribute. Chuck, he's
like a kid over there. He's like, do I get some?
I want some. I don't have any in my glass. This
would probably be really good over ice so you
can allow the ice to melt. Absolutely. Add some
water to it. Absolutely. I like it. I give this
a very high score. To me, this meets the criteria
of a perfect Friday night drink for me. After
everything is said and done, I would love to
sit down with this and have a little club soda
back and just kind of like. Just enjoy a sip
in it. This is not a drinking. You don't do not
drink this. This is something that you take a
sip. In fact, you ship. In fact, you may have
a beer and then take a little tiny pull off of
this. You know? Yeah. You sip on this for a while.
This is. Yeah. This is a long. This one should.
You should. It should take you over an hour to
drink this. This is one you'd want to have with
a cigar. Kind of. Yeah. That'll work. Tap the
brakes on things. Yeah. That'll work. I like
it. I give this a high score. Mr. Chuck, I would
give, I don't know what I gave last time, but
I'm going to give this an eight. Did we put any
numbers on the bank street? I don't think we
did. I don't think we did. I don't think we did.
We'll have to go back and do that. What do you
think, Mr. Palito? What are you at with this
one? I'm going with 7 .4. Which is high for me.
Yeah, I think I'm going to be about a 7 .3 on
this one. I'm sorry, fellas. It's just too rough
on you. You're going with a .8? I'm going to
have to ratchet down to a 6. No, that's fine.
There's nothing wrong with that. When we talk,
we're like, everyone's palate's different. You
like what you like. And if you don't like this,
then you don't like it. But we also have categories.
Your scores went up a point from last time. Each?
Just about. I think the palates have changed.
Wow. But I think they changed just... I mean,
the fact that we're all in the same category.
So you're saying I was a 6 .4 last time, huh?
You were a 6 .8. Okay, I was a little closer.
Jeff was a 6 .5. On this same bottle? And where
was I? Same bottle. 6 .9. I was a 6 .9? Yep,
now you're an 8. Well, hey, look, I'm enjoying
this. I'm really liking this. You're the most
inconsistent taster. It's all right. Look, I'm
really enjoying this. I think this is great.
And not to kick a 6 .9 out of bed or anything
like that. No, there won't be a 6 .9 at all.
Yeah. But you're like, eight. Give me that eight.
Yeah. But it takes an acquired taste. And so
this is not something that you're going to -
You've killed off those sensitive taste buds,
and now you can really enjoy it. You know, there's
something to be said about having a whiskey on
the first half and one on the second half. I'm
curious if we were to have this on the first
half - I wondered the same thing. If we'd like
it as much. Yeah. We may not. It may take the
fact that you've got to be a little spirited
to jump into this. You've got to test the pool.
I also think there's something behind you have
to warm your palate up to handle something like
that. A higher proof, super rich whiskey. This
has a set of nuts. For being under 130, this
tastes 130. There's some, I don't want to say
burn, but it's rich. It's very rich. What was
the price point on this one? Under $70. $70.
Saddle leather. Hints of tobacco. Lone Elm single
barrel Texas straight whiskey offers a rich and
complex tasting experience. So are we able to
visit Lone Star? Why not? In Forty, Texas? We
should be able to. Do they do any kind of tours?
And yes, local, man. We got to respect local.
Support local. I like that idea. It's called
Five Points Distillery. Five Points Distillery.
Yeah, five points to start. Let's see if we can't
line up some tours for this. That would be cool.
There it is. All right. Visit us. Visit. Saturdays
from 12 to 4 .30. Tours take place every 30 minutes.
And Saturdays beginning at noon. If your party
is larger than 12, please contact us at Private
Tour. If you're a member of the Texas Whiskey
Trail, check in on our tasting room to receive
travel points or trail points. If you're not
a member, fuck off. No, you've got to sign up
for it. They have a pot still there, by the way.
Looks like it. Copper. That's a pot still, yeah.
That's a nice big one. Zoom out on that. Where
exactly is that? I know you said it was east
of Mesquite. East of Mesquite. East of Mesquite.
Oh, dude, that's totally in range. Oh, yeah.
We got to do that. We got to do it. Yeah, it's
not very far. It was Saturdays, you said? Just
Saturdays only? Saturdays, 45 minutes to get
down there is my guess. And we can go stop at
Gun Barrel City and eat at my favorite marina
afterwards. I've been there. Yes, I took you
along. That was a great time, wasn't it? Didn't
we take a selfie? We've been there twice, I think.
Yeah, you didn't invite me and then sent pictures
when you were there. Yep, I remember. Look at
all those marks on there. Chuck marks, yes, thank
you. That's not 40. Well, yeah, South 40. Oh,
I guess it is, yeah. Interesting. Oh, so it's
down south of 20. Yeah. Yeah, 40's out 80, isn't
it? Straight? Yeah, but that's, I mean, three
miles between the two. Yeah, that's true. That's
pretty fun. I say we try it sometime. Agreed.
Sooner than later. No brainer. Stop dicking around.
We don't want to have to wait until we're as
old as Larry. Yeah, no kidding. Wait till we're
retarded. Retarded? Retired. That's right. Okay,
I'm drunk. Get off my lawn, punk. Well, you know
what? We were talking about, did you guys hear
about this Epstein deal thing? Well, it was just
at the DOJ, and the FBI came out and said, yeah,
there's no Epstein list, and sorry, guys. We're
just going to, it's a nothing burger. And the
base, the base MAGA. upset. Well, I mean, I'm
trying to figure out why exactly is what's her
name? Pam Bondi. No, no, no. The girl that's
in jail right now. Maxwell. Jelaine Maxwell.
Why is she in jail right now? I mean, they have
charged her with traffic. She trafficked little
girls. And she claimed that she had a list. I
don't know. She had a black book, yes, of contacts.
And where the fuck is that book? Well, it's probably
under court sealed documents. That's the problem.
It could have been destroyed at this point. Maybe
that's where they're at. It's like they've destroyed
the evidence. There's nothing here. Well, then
why not say that? I don't know. I don't know.
The problem is this administration rolled in
with this new sheriff in town. We're not going
to do this bullshit. We're not going to sweep
things under the rug. We're going to be totally
transparent. We're going to tell you about this.
We're going to tell you this. We're going to
tell you that. The fact that they destroyed the
book, if they did, you know, but they're doing
similar stuff. Like what is the guy, the crooks
guy that took a shot, pop shot off that Trump?
Right. I mean, they immediately. You mean eight
of them. They immediately freaking cremated him.
Yeah. Without being able to take. Well, no, that
happened. Yeah, that happened before Trump's
administration. Yeah. I think it's, but still.
Right. The point is, is that even after Trump
became the president, they're still trying to
find information and they're not getting anywhere.
It's just like when he got in office, look, and
I'm not saying he's not doing great things. He
is doing some great things, but I'm not happy
with some of the stuff that's going on. I'm not
happy with this. It just seemed like they just
like, hey, we're looking into it and there's
nothing there. Sorry, guys. And then everybody's
like, seriously? You build everything up. If
you get me president, I'm going to find out X,
Y, and Z. I'm waiting for that. Well, and did
you hear Bongino kind of went off? He was upset.
Yeah. And he was in the cabinet meeting or wherever
they were in this big meeting, and they said
he stormed out because he was like, this is a
load of shit. You guys are seriously going to
say that there's no story here? No smoking gun
here? Yeah. But apparently it's been smoothed
over since then. Well, they probably were like,
hey, they got Jimmy the Fish over there. Yeah,
no shit. The Israeli convention that kind of
brought them back in is, hey, you're going to
shut the fuck up. You're going to like this.
See, no one likes that. I mean, this is not supposed
to be that administration. It's not, but it's
not this administration. I'm starting to feel
that it has nothing to do with left or right.
I feel that there's this upper echelon of this
ether that imposes their will on either left
or right. It doesn't matter. I think they're
obviously protecting someone. Someone. I think
it's a bunch of people. It's a bunch of people.
I don't think it's any one person. I think it's
a slew of folks. We can't let this out. And I'll
say it again. The problem is the people on that
list, it makes it, it implicates them in going
to the island and participating with, you know,
nefarious things. But the reality is he brought
people to his island to just entertain them.
That's a good point. And when you show up on
this list, people are going to think the worst.
And they're like, dude, I was on the island because
we were talking about. Sure you were. Right.
Hang on. Exactly. Sure you were. Alan Dershowitz
had to. defend himself in court because one of
the victims named him. And he's like, I've never
seen this woman in my life. And he had to do
it in court. And he wants everybody else to kind
of have that same opportunity to defend themselves.
Yeah, but it drives him through the mud. He was
fighting tooth and nail to clear his name. I
mean, that's the problem. I mean, just because
you knew who Jeffrey Epstein was doesn't mean
you were a slimeball. And it looks so... damning
if you're on that list. I think that's why they're
like, you know what? Let's just make the whole
thing go. So is Trump on that list? He knew him.
I mean, he knew him for 15 years. But is Trump
on the list? Because there are people out there
that claim that Trump is on the manifest. He's
on the list. He's on the list because he knew
him. But is he on the manifest? He is on a flight
manifest being on Epstein's plane, not to the
island. Back and forth from New York to Palm
Beach. So yes, it looks bad. It looks bad. If
you think that anybody who knew him was on the
plane on the island. He's guilty. He's guilty.
And Trump is guilty. Those criteria. It doesn't
look good. Anyway, so that's the problem. That's
the problem with this damn list. My thought.
Go ahead. Who cares? Exactly. You got this list.
You got names. Put the names out. So what? Is
this the biggest problem we have? It can be damning,
but it needs to be out there. I think transparency
needs to happen. I'm telling you, man, unless
you've got photos or videos with Trump with a
12 year old Korean girl. Who cares? Give me a
second. I'll make that video. Why does she need
to be Korean? You can do it now. Yeah, they were
Swedish, by the way. Is this one of your fantasies
you got working on? They were all Swedish. Hi,
my name's Larry. Well, just like the, you know,
the one. She has to be 12 years old. And Korean.
Korean. That picture you found a couple years
ago with Chuck Schumer and the little black girl,
you know, that was doctored. Yes. You know, that's
starting to make the rounds again. Yes. It's
awful. And you got Nancy Pelosi. You know what?
Back to your point. Back to your point, Larry.
Maybe what you do is you say, listen, this list
doesn't mean that they all did this and this
and this. So there you go. There's the fucking
list. Read all you want. It doesn't mean that
these people were this and this and that. But
what are you going to do? That's just going to
go bad. So they're going to say, fuck it. Put
it on the road. Trump has survived way worse
stuff than this. Trump's not worried about Trump.
Let it, I mean, let the list out. It's going
to be, you know, the Dems are going to go fanatic
for three days and then there's going to be some
other big headline and some other big story that's
going to take precedence and it's all going to
be forgotten. Nobody cares. Nobody's harmed.
Nobody's hurt. Move on. You may be doing more
damage by not releasing the list than you are
releasing it. True. That I may agree with because
the base is upset. Yeah, we're disappointed.
And rightfully so. I am. Do you agree with that?
I'm not upset. No, but do you agree with my statement
that it's probably causing more damage? I think
with certain people, I don't think the majority
care about this anymore. Right. I think there
is a core group that do. And they're very vocal,
but I think most people are just like, whatever.
Well, according to the polls, over 70 % care.
Yeah. And that is... Well, I mean, you're...
stating they don't. Well, that's my opinion.
Well, I mean, according to the polls, they said
70%. Dude. Well, I don't know. All right. Ending
on a happy note, happy birthday to Die Hard.
Oh, yeah. That's not 30 % of everybody. That's
37 years ago. That's a Christmas movie, by the
way. 37 years ago, Die Hard was released. Happy
birthday, Die Hard. It's the greatest Christmas
movie of all time. And happy birthday to Bruce
Willis. It's not a Christmas movie. Oh, my God.
Yippee -ki -yay. Motherfucker. Motherfucker.
It's a great movie. I may have to watch it. It's
a great movie. All right, it's July 15th, second
half of the Dudes Like Us podcast. Thank you,
Larry. Oh, no, thank you guys for inviting me.
It's been a lot of fun. Thank you very much.
Yeah, are you about ready to fall asleep? Is
your 9 o 'clock bedtime? Is this past it? It's
way past. Way past. It's way past. I cannot wait
for that to be a thing. It's so great. Jeff,
I already hear Jeff. That's a thing for me. You
know you can go to bed at 8 .30 now if you want
to. I can't go to bed. I just wish you could
be in my brain for one hour. This brain will
not go to bed at fucking 9 o 'clock. Are you
kidding me? There's too much ADD bullshit going
on. Again, July 15th, Dudes Like Us podcast.
Thank you, Chuck, again, for always staying on
top of shit. Our guest, Larry, God bless. Dudes
Like Us. I'm Sean. I'm Paul. I'm Jeff. I'm Larry.
Thank you. Peace out.