It'll be another podcast of black things all
over your face. Is that your jam? My headphones
are separating. They're disintegrating. Disintegrating
is a better word. Here we are. We are. You know,
shoot, today was a great day, wasn't it? It was
a good day, Sean. That's just a random no context.
Today's a good day. I mean, you know, because
it's what? It's July 1st. It is. It's July 1st,
and you're just thinking Armageddon with the
heat. Yeah, it's hot. Did your balls heal? I
forgot what that was about. You had serious chafe
and swelling. Oh, that was the night. That was
the day I did some work in my garage. Yeah, you
know what? It healed the next day. It's kind
of calloused over. I got very... It took 28 minutes,
28 seconds to say the word ball. My wibbles are
extremely resilient. They just probably had something
to do with that salve I put on it. It could be.
I'm getting out of the shower. We have an exciting
guest. We do. A repeat. It's the first half of
the podcast. It is, what did we say, July 1st?
It is July 1st. Mr. Producer is sitting at the
helm. We've got a fantastic first half. We had
an event that our guest missed out on because
you were sick. I don't know if that was a facade.
Can't wait to hear the real story. Sorry, you
guys didn't score high enough. We didn't get
a rose for that night. But regardless, the dudes
like us. I'm Sean. I'm Paul. I am Jeff. And I'm
Jackie Mack. There you go. Jackie Mack. Jack
is back. For the second time? The second time.
Second time. Nice. No, we're not going to talk
about it, but she brought a nice bottle of bourbon
that we're sampling. Yes. At least my bottle.
We're not going to talk about it? No, we'll talk
about it eventually. Oh, later? Yes, later. Okay.
Yeah, we like to have that listener apprehension,
that buildup, so they explode when we talk about
it. No, they just fast forward it. The wonderment.
So we had invited you to an event. This happened
this past Friday, put on by Horse Neck. Those
folks out there, Darren Ford and Jim and who
are the rest of the guys? I can't remember all
their names. All of them. It was great. For $40,
you walk in there. They give you a little Glencairn
glass. They racked up 20, 25 bottles against
the wall of various whiskeys and bourbons. Help
yourself. And they said, gentlemen, I have not
been to an event where you just help yourself
to all these different bottles. Take it off.
That was crazy. That was really cool. You haven't
been to a bottle share? No, actually, I have
not. Oh, I didn't invite y 'all to a bottle share.
That was a lot of fun. It was a lot. It was jam
-packed. So first of all, it's somewhere we didn't
expect. At least I didn't. You know, I was expecting,
I was thinking it was going to be like in a restaurant
because it was downtown The Star. We call it
downtown, but The Star. And it's really nice
bars and restaurants down there, but it was called
The 12th. I think it's called The 12th, right?
The 12th. The 12th. Is that what it is? It's
a condo. It's condominium. It's beautiful. Yeah,
high class. It was basically their clubhouse
for that floor in the condo, I guess. I don't
know. Yeah, the sixth floor. I think it's the
entire condominiums, right? Because there's a
pool on that level as well. Oh, good point. And
a fitness center. The amenities floor. Correct.
The amenities center or whatever. Yes. Yeah,
so they made it out for this event. That big
old floor right there. That's where we're at.
It was super cool. Oh, and the patio was beautiful
out there. The weather was perfect. It was a
little warm, but still, it was beautiful out
there. The sun was setting. You could look downtown.
I never went out there. I didn't either. Oh,
man. That was dumb. Well, you had to go find
Larry, didn't you? Larry. Oh, yeah. Larry went
on a walkabout the wrong direction. Shout out
to Larry joining us out there at the event. He's
like, I was just here. Because he was across
the street where he should have been, where he
parked. And then he just headed towards the -
Wandered south? Yeah, he went the wrong way.
Yeah. I said, Larry, there you are. Larry. So
anyways, it was a great time. Food, they had
brisket, ribs. And they did the white elephant
style bourbon. Yes, yes. And they raffled off
a few things. Yes. I didn't win anything. Ever.
Chuck won a bottle of Eagle Rare. Yep. Yeah.
Wow. He was super excited about that. But it
sucks, doesn't it? It's 3 .9. Whatever. I mean,
whiskey is whiskey. And free is free. I wouldn't
say it sucked. I just didn't rate it high. I'm
never going to let it beat that. So you walked
in and you had all these different bourbon samples
to drink from. You had food. Yes. Entertainment.
Yeah. You told me about the lady at the bar.
Well, I mean, she wasn't entertaining. I was
just saying that she was pretty, you know? And
I was like, yeah. So, yeah, there were a lot
of people that were there. And then there was
a couple there. You had mentioned the pretty
ladies at the bar we were talking about earlier.
Yeah. How many numbers did they call? Was it
about 65? folks shoot man yes in the 60s there
had to be 65 because larry was number 65 and
he was the last one and they were like well she
got this one who's left actually had the choice
of anything right yeah anything that wasn't stolen
twice already yeah the the i think the only thing
i noticed there is i think there were a lot of
folks there who didn't know bourbon yeah real
well because they were, I think the bourbon,
I'm not saying everybody, but there are a lot
of folks there. I didn't have a lot of bourbon
knowledge on what was good, what was, you know,
they gravitated to the norms, right? So the names
that you may have heard before, in my opinion.
The ones that are easy to find, readily available.
Yeah, the E .H. Taylor, maybe. Well, that was
one. People know about that one, so that got
stolen real quick. Uh, but the angels envy, they
got all excited about this, you know, standard
angels, envies and, uh, stuff like that. And,
you know, there's a couple of interesting bottles
there. I think all the stuff we brought was interesting.
What did everybody get? I got the, well, via
Sean, I originally pulled a Doc Swinson's rye,
uh, which who knows? Yeah. Well, we didn't like,
I didn't like the Doc Swinson's bourbon at all.
So I wasn't real thrilled. And then someone pulled
a Buffalo Trace kosher wheat. I had never even
heard of that one before. It's pretty good. I
like the kosher wheat. Evidently, they make a
rye as well. So they make a Buffalo Trace kosher
rye. Yeah, they have a line. I've never heard
of them, either of them. So when I saw that,
I looked at that. I said, wow. I yelled across
20 feet or so to the guy. Wow, that is awesome.
Man, that's a great find. He was like, you want
it? And I was like, yes, sir. He grabbed my bottle
and went and swapped it. In the middle of the
thing, he went over and made a trade. I was like,
can we do that? Well, I mean, he was going to
give it to me. He didn't want anything in return.
I was like, no, I'll give you Jeff's bottle.
It's okay. I'm perfectly fine with that because,
like I said, I was not impressed with the Doc
Swinson's. I asked him first. I wouldn't have
just done it. I would have paid for it no matter
what. But anyways, it was fun. It was a lot of
fun. It was. I want to do a shout out. God bless
it. I pulled out my phone and just went to sleep.
So it's no in Victoria. So if you were wondering,
Jeff, that's them. They were standing in the
corner. Yeah, they were standing next to me.
Yeah. I don't remember. There were so many folks
there. And they're cool. Yeah. Yeah. And surprisingly,
I've seen. I've seen some voiceovers. You zoomed
in right into her crotch. What you were showing
me was like, I don't know. What was so interesting
about the crotch? No, but the thing is, I was
just thinking that she was, and look, this is
going to sound horrible, because you've got this
preconceived notion of how certain women sound
and stuff. She sounds nothing like... The way
she looks. She kind of sounded like the senator
or the congressman from Arizona. It was Carrie...
Lake? Carrie Lake. She has a fantastic voice.
Some of the stuff that she was talking on her
Instagram account, and it is... What is the thing?
God bless it. Well, God bless it. It's No and
Victoria Urea. Or Urea. I hope I'm pronouncing
that right. So they basically don't just rep
brands. We build them. So they're into advertising.
And maybe they can hear this. Join us on the
podcast. Maybe they'll figure out how they can
pump up our podcast. There you go. Snap, snap.
He had heard of us because they work with Horseneck.
And Horseneck, of course, was on the podcast.
So I was like, hey, I'm one of the guys from
the podcast. He goes, oh, dude, like those podcasts.
Yeah, I've heard of you guys. I was like, oh,
really? Like, did the random heard of you? But
no, it was through whoever. He heard about chocolate.
No, no, it was a really good time. I really enjoyed
myself. And they had, like I said, they had some
good foods. Michael from Boozy Baking came. He
had some meats. Oh, yeah. He was there, and he
brought some cookies, and those were always delicious.
They are. They are. Have you not? Do you know
what we're talking about? No. So it's the Boozy
Baking Company. Yes. Is that what I said? That's
exactly right. The Boozy Baking Company. So Michael
is one of the founders, owners of that company,
and they basically make their cookies with alcohol,
with choice select whiskeys and bourbons. And
not just a tiny amount either. Oh, my gosh. Yeah.
He apparently puts a healthy amount in his cookies.
Those cookies are tremendous. Yep. So he's got
a trade secret on how he makes them. With that
much alcohol. He's figured out the formula to
use that much alcohol and actually make a cookie.
Where you can actually taste it? Yes. So when
you're eating the cookie, you can taste the alcohol?
Yes, you can, but it's not overpowering either.
Yeah, that's not overpowering either. Half a
shot. Yeah, half a shot per cookie. Oh, damn.
Half a shot per cookie? Yes. Yeah. Good stuff.
I know, right? That's intriguing. I feel like
I need to go get some cookies. Yes, they're very,
very good. If you told me, I would have brought
some. Right? And I don't think they're not cheap.
And that's probably one of the things he's struggling
with. It's like people don't want to spend a
lot of money for a cookie. I don't know. It's
$8 .25. If you look at the screen, it just showed
the cookie was like $8. Right. So if you think
about dessert and if it's a good -sized cookie.
Right. Yeah, they're beefy. They're beefy. They
have smaller ones as well. Like a smaller little
single one. But those cookies are a nice size,
and they're thick and heavy. Right. They have
some nice thickness. I don't know. They're expensive,
but they're worth it. They've got some girth
in this, Tom. Wow. All righty. Here we go. Here
we go. I always enjoy talking about girth on
a Tuesday night. So, yeah, Jeff walked away with,
you know, for the Buffalo Trace. The kosher wheat.
Kosher wheat. And Paul walked, what'd you walk
away with, Paul? I had the minor case. Well,
the first one you walked away with. Minor case
of what? Herpes. The first one you walked away
with was. Field of Dreams. Field of Dreams. Yeah,
and the guy that bought it totally spoiled it.
And he probably would have talked about it around
the people around him. But as soon as I picked
it up and I was kind of checking it out, he walks
across the room. stands next to me and starts
whispering to me about why this is such an important
bottle. I'm like, dude, go away. Don't draw attention
to me and this bottle. Other people are going
to be like, ooh, what is this bottle? So tell
me about Field of Dreams. I've never even heard
of Field of Dreams. So it apparently, and I couldn't,
I didn't hear everything he said. It was really
a quick conversation, but he said some ex -MLB
baseball players got together and they, I guess
maybe they picked a barrel and then they bottled,
you know, they bottle it and they all got assigned,
a number of the bottle. And so, but, but what's
strange about it is like the bottle I had was
like 20 ,000 and something. So I don't know how
many bottles he was talking about, but he was
telling me, if you can find out, you can look
up the number and figure out which major league
baseball player that is associated with getting
contact with them. And it'll probably pay a lot
of money to get it back from you. So 20 ,000,
your number is 20 ,000? That's what my bottle
was. Man, that is quite, that's like, you know,
water into wine. If you take in a barrel that
everybody picked. There was. It may be multiple
barrels. That part I didn't quite understand.
Okay. But that was the general. One bottle for
every player in Major League history. Oh, okay.
Oh, there you go. Oh, yeah. So you're going,
if you put in like one, just by like Ty Cobb
or something like that, you're not going to find
him. Would he be able to pay for my bottle? I
don't know. Put in like... So the bottles are
desirable because there was a gentleman that
was sitting where the kitchenette is where all
the bourbon bottles. He is a collector and he
says, yeah, I've got two, three thousand bottles
sitting in a special room and I'll invite you
guys over and you can do a tasting. And I was
like, we're on our way. But he went over there
and grabbed it. He was the one that took it from
you. Oh, he's the one that... Someone got it
from him, too. Oh, so you didn't get to keep
that. No, it got stolen. It got stolen. And then
I went and picked up Minor Case, which is actually
a limestone distillery. Is it a bourbon or is
it a whiskey? I don't know. I thought it was
a bourbon. What is Minor Case, Mr. Producer?
Is it a bourbon? I'm not sure. I think it's a
whiskey. I've never heard of Minor Case. Minor
Case. I had heard of it because we were at the
Limestone Distillery in Kentucky, and they had
it there. And I think that's the only place you
might be able to get it. I'm not 100 % sure on
that. Oh, I like that flavor profile back there.
Yeah, let's see here. Minor case, rye. It's definitely
a rye. Hi, bourbon enthusiast. It's a rye whiskey.
Yes, I'm over 21. To look at them. To read a
review. Yeah, it's a rye whiskey. Yes. Okay,
so it's not a bourbon. A rye whiskey. And it's
a sherry... I love the glassware, though. It's
pretty. Yeah, it's embossed. That's actually
what... So when we went to the Lime Plum Distillery,
my wife was like, I love that bottle. And it's
even... It's got a white... I'm not sure that's
the same bottle because this one has like a white...
Yeah, they used like a roller ink when they made
the standout wipe. Exactly. It was nice. And
it looks really cool. Anyway, my wife loved the
bottle and she asked the distillery if she could
have an empty bottle of it. And they were like,
yeah, don't tell anybody, but here's an empty
bottle. And what are the odds that what I get
at this bourbon exchange is a bottle that she
knows about, cares about. And I'm like, I took
a picture of it. I said, look what I got. She's
like, no way. So it was kind of cool that. You
got to go out for the night and you got like.
A little wink nod. Nah, but she was like that.
Paul got lucky that night. She was actually,
wow, really? Yeah, she just poured minor case
all over each other. She got a little stinky
pinky. Oh, it was amazing. Oh, yes. Yeah, but
it's kind of crazy how the universe works. Yes.
I'm telling you, the odds of that are unbelievable.
Yeah, see the white lettering? It's a really
cool bottle. There you go. That's pretty cool.
You have to let us know what it actually tastes
like. I already coached him on this. I was like,
no, no, no. Jeff and I are both contributing.
I got this. Jeff and I are both contributing
our bottle to the podcast. And as I tell you
what, if you want, you bring it over, let us
sample, and then take it back home. Yeah, no,
no. I'm 100 % okay with... Well, see, I didn't
go, even though I had a ticket. I did not go,
but I brought my bottle. To share. And thank
you. There you go. See, that's how this works.
Mr. Producer, what did you win? We know you won
the Eagle Rare. What did you exchange? I took
home an Old Forrester 1920 Prohibition. Oh, that's
right. That's right. That's a good one, too.
That's not a bad one. Not a bad bottle at all.
Overall, the night, did we miss anybody? No.
Override the night was fantastic. Well, we didn't
talk about what you got. Yeah. Well, we're going
to drink it for the second half, so we'll talk
about that later. Yes, we'll talk about that
in the second half. Yeah. Highly recommend. If
you ever have an opportunity to go to these type
of events, I highly recommend it. It was really
cool. Yeah. Big shout out to the Horseneck guys.
Yeah. They did a really good job. I know this
was, I think, their first or second one. And
we got there a little early and they were still
setting up, but they were very, very nice and
accommodating to us. They were. Yeah. And they
even had their cans, you know, their Horseneck
cans that were refreshing. The cross juice and
bourbon. Yes. Have you ever had those? RTDs?
No. Yeah, RTDs. Yeah, they're ready to drink.
I'm not a big ready -to -drink fan. There's always
something about the ready -to -drink that doesn't
appeal to me. Well, and that's fair. And these
are, I think, of the category of ready -to -drink,
these are at the top. Yeah, they may not be as
bad as the other ones. They're made as real fruit
juice, and they were very picky on what they
put in them. It was a long process. The only
thing is... that I noticed when, because I went
over there, grabbed a couple cans and some glasses,
and we were kind of like splitting them up in
three, four, how many people were at the table.
And I noticed you need it, not necessarily shake
it, but you need to turn it upside down. And
because it's real fruit juices, so it will develop
layers after a while. And because I noticed the
very last glass had a bunch of juice in it, so
I grabbed it for myself. Very tasty, very fruity.
Nice. Match my shirt. Nice. Wow. Your shirt was
tasty and green. It was just fruity. Yeah, I
had a very colorful shirt on. In retrospect,
I saw it on video. I was like, what a fag. What
is he wearing? Good Lord. What on earth was that?
There's a picture of it. I'll find it. Thank
you. Thank you, Jeff. She wants to see it. I
do. I want to see it. It was quite colorful.
Sure. I found it at Kohl's. It was on special.
So when it's on special, you probably don't buy
it. Yeah, that's probably a reason. Didn't some
guy come up and say, what's that on your shirt?
Brian. Oh, it was Brian. I like that shirt. Yeah,
Brian Brickman. He was kind of like, oh, I just
got lost in your shirt. Brian was a guest on
our podcast. Yes, he was. Yes, he was. Shout
out to Brian. He got lost in your shirt. Yeah,
that's them right there. All right. Yes. I think
the shirt looks great. Well, thank you. Yeah.
Thank you. My wife kind of made fun of me. She
was just like, yeah, you wore that and a black
cowboy hat. Did you have on boots? Yes. Okay.
So whatever, whatever. I had a great time. Assless
chaps. I mean, I purposely drank a little bit
more than I should because we're learning to
have people pick us up and be a little bit more
responsible, which is huge. And the fact that
we weren't paying for any of it and we had a
smorgasbord, it's like going to a freaking buffet,
the best buffet ever. Yeah, it was pretty cool.
Yeah, I enjoyed it. They had some dude over there
with a little fire stick on. making the smoked
drinks. I'm not a huge fan of that. I think mine
got overly baked or something. It did. Man, it
was hardcore bitter. It's a little too roasty
and toasty. Yeah, I almost couldn't drink it.
I did. Yeah, you're not a fan of the smoked stuff,
but I don't like that. This was bitter. Yeah,
he was making two old fashions, one for Jeff
and I, and he did mine. He lit mine, and then
maybe the perfect amount of smoke went into mine,
and then he lit his, and it was like... It's
like, literally, it's like you couldn't see above
the bourbon in the top of the glass. It was completely
opaque. It was smoke. I clearly remember that
because I remember you guys walking over to the
table and you set your drinks down on the table
and I was like, oh. One, two. Yeah, it was just
two. Yeah, it was just two. Even though there
were three people there, we just got two of them,
which is kind of strange. Maybe because they
wouldn't serve you two. That's it. That's the
answer. They wouldn't serve me two. I could only
get one for myself. That's what I told him. I
can only get two, dude. Oh, you're challenging.
Let's go find the bartender. You know what? Shout
out to the bartender. I don't know who he was,
but he's a graduate now. He graduates in December
at A &M. I love when people hit those milestones
in life. It's exciting. It should be celebrated.
Did y 'all tip him well? Ooh. We didn't tip him
well, but there was no cash going across the
board. There was no tip at all. There was no
tip? Like, there's no tip dish? He didn't have
anything? He didn't slide him a 20 and say, like,
oh, great job. That would have been cool, but
no. It would have been even more cool if perhaps
he had a QR code or something that we could have
said, hey, sell me some money. Here's my QR code.
He probably wasn't allowed to for the event,
so he was probably getting paid something else.
I'm assuming the horse neck guys took care of
him. Oh, yeah, I'm sure they did. I'm always
sliding a 20. Yeah, that's the cool thing to
do. Speaking of tips, I've been seeing some news
that... There's some places out there that you
have to tip that has a little note that says
no tipping is not an option. Wow. And it starts
at like 30, 35, and 40 % tip. It was a restaurant
somewhere. And they showed another one where
they actually, you know, because it's usually
a touch screen, right, where it says no tip.
Well, they had that covered up with tape so you
couldn't hit it. Wow. I'm hitting the tape. I'm
hitting custom. Yeah, exactly. If you're going
to be that hardcore about it. So, I mean, you
know, if that's going to be the case, then build
it into your prices. Correct. You know, and then
have them pay you behind the scenes and say,
hey, look. Thank you. The minimum amount of tip
is included in the price. And we've left a space
here called a discretionary tip. If you feel
that the server went above and beyond, add a
discretionary tip. But the flip side of that,
which we get a lot, is that some of these servers
suck. Some of these servers have a bad day and
they give bad service. And so why do I have to
pay them whatever it is? And leave the place
unhappy about it and never want to come back.
Yeah. It's just like, you know, that's frustrating
for me. And this particular one was a Thai food
restaurant where the lady went and picked up
the food herself. Okay. Yeah, so I have a rule.
And they wanted the middle of 30%. Let's talk
about that. What is the rule there? For me, if
I have to stand in line, order my food, get up
from my seat, and pick it up myself, there is
no tip. I might leave a dollar in the container
just out of courtesy. I don't think that if I'm
doing everything, they're preparing my food and
I'm already paying an exorbitant amount for the
food. Right. I shouldn't have to tip people to
do their job to serve it to me. Right. I agree
with that. I couldn't tell you how many times
I have picked up food in that scenario. And I'm
looking at the board, you know, the little kiosk
going. And so I panic and push 10%. And then
I think to myself, why? Just pick zero. And why
do I feel guilty about it? You know what I mean?
I hate that I feel guilty about. doing no tip
well i mean i think that if if i've gone into
places where the bartender takes care of it and
you order your during order your um your food
and the bartender's in the back she's putting
in in the bag i mean that's a hard job but it's
still a job and they make sure everything's in
there yeah a good example is olive garden Have
you ever picked up food from Olive Garden? No.
They have a station to the side and they're taking
that shit seriously. They're like checking it
and they're, you know, doing this and that and
they're bringing out stuff from the, I mean,
so they seem to do a little bit more. But I go
order a pizza from somewhere and I pay. I'm picking
it up. Yeah. I'm not tipping. Yeah. If you deliver
it for me, then I'll give you a tip. Absolutely.
What say you, Sean? Because you're the big tipper
of the group, I think, or at least of the dudes
like us. Well, I mean, I've worked for tips,
so I'm sensitive to that. But I agree with Jeff.
I agree with Jeff. I mean, part of it, I blame
the employer. They shouldn't be putting their
employees in a position where they require tips
to compensate their hourly wage. Or you can clearly
put on there the word discretionary. I think
discretionary should be included on the tip line.
And let them know, is this discretionary or is
this considered mandatory? And if it's mandatory,
then you need to have another come to Jesus moment
with the manager. Hey, look, I'm not coming back
because of this. I think it's wrong that you're
mistreating your employees by forcing them. To
have the customers tip them. Yeah, but what if
it's a big chain? They don't control that kind
of stuff. Yeah, but you know what? It's the point
of sale system, right? Okay. And I'm not disagreeing
with that, but you got to start somewhere. And
there are life choices. So if you want that pizza,
then you got to either pay the tip or go somewhere
else to get your pizza. And I'm with Jeff. I'm
not a huge fan of that. No tip on a pickup pizza
stand. And I'm a big tipper. I'm a very generous
tipper. There's certain situations that I just
find that it's unnecessary and the tip culture
is getting out of control, I think. I think you're
right. It didn't used to be like this. And I
think maybe it's the advent of these. iPads that
go up there where they just turn it around and
automatically there's a 2030. Absolutely. They
just build that into the point of sale. It's
there. Yeah, if you go to a barista at Starbucks
and, hey, what do you want? I'd like a double,
whatever. And they're like, oh, that'll be $18
,000 .22. Yeah. And you want to add a 40 % tip?
There you go. And you flip it over and they've
got like, you know, freaking 15 people throwing
shit around and all of a sudden you got your
drinks. I don't know. Should you tip for that?
No, they get paid well at Starbucks for what
they do, I think. Okay, well, that's a good question.
Do you, I mean, I don't go to Starbucks, so I
don't know. People tip there. I do tip at Starbucks.
At Starbucks. But you know, I just went to Jersey
Mike's for the first time just recently. I walk
in, I have no idea what I'm doing. So I look
at the menu and I'm like, okay, what am I going
to have? So I order a sandwich and then I think,
well, I'll eat part of that sandwich tomorrow.
So I'll just get the big one. The sandwich was
$19. That's what I'm saying. And they were so
rude to me because I paid in advance and I did
not tip. I'm paying $19 for you to make me a
sandwich. Like, that's your job. Right. Yeah,
there's that. How do you know they were rude
to you because you didn't tip? Are you assuming
that? It was a sandwich, bitch. Pretty much.
That's exactly what it felt like. I just kind
of threw it. It was like a ball. Not a joke.
Go long. Like, literally put it, wrapped it up,
put it in the bag, and, like, slid it across
the counter, like, flinging at me. Well, I think
it's expected these days, and I... I dispute
several scenarios. It's a culture that we need
to get a grip on, especially now that Trump is
potentially pushing this new beautiful deal going
on where they're not going to be taxing tips,
which, you know what, I'm for it and I'm against
it. I think that they should not have taxed tips
up to a certain amount. But with my experience,
I know people, if you make over $50 ,000 a year
on tips, I think that there needs to be a threshold.
That anything over a certain amount, I'm not
saying it needs to be $50 ,000, but anything
over a certain amount, there needs to be applicable
taxes. There's some of these restaurants out
there, like I was at a Steak D. Lincoln, as a
matter of fact. I know those waiters and waitresses
make a good living off of tips. There's fine
dining. restaurants, they do very well for themselves.
I mean, just 20 % on some of those cabs is exorbitant.
So I worked at the Four Seasons Resort, and there
was the bartender that worked there forever in
the sports club part with the members. He quit
and got a job at the mansion at Turtle Creek,
the really high -end one. That dude was making
$120 ,000, $130 ,000 a year. And that was fucking
25 years ago. Yeah. I was a beer wench is what
they called them in Canada. Oh. I call them that
here. You do? Yes. Yeah. So I was slinging beer
in my early 20s. And I quit my job to go work
a regular job with benefits. And at the time,
so I'm not young. That was a very long time ago.
I made $93 ,000 a year. As a beer wench? As a
beer wench. How much is that in United States
money? That's $4 .22. Exactly. And I went to
work for, I don't know, like $28 ,000 a year
so I could have benefits. What on earth? Don't
you have socialized healthcare up there? Yeah.
You want to get out of that though. She was a
takeoff hoser. Yes. I didn't leave because of
the taxes or socialized healthcare. I left for
love. Oh. Can't put a price on that. You can
when you get divorced. So word to the wise. Yeah,
there's no money -back guarantee on that. There's
none. Yeah. Well, cool. All right, so you mentioned
the big, beautiful bill. So that just, I mean,
you know. Well, PASA said it. Passed the Senate.
Now it's got to go back to the House. Yes, and
they have to combine the elements of the House
version and the Senate version and figure out
what they've got and how they're going to compromise.
And there's kind of an ugly, ugly deal. What
drives me nuts is you get all this stuff where,
you know, you get these people threatening, like,
Chip Roy, I'm never going to vote for this thing.
Right. Right, I'm never going to do this. And,
you know, and it's, well, if you don't pass it,
you can't have everything that you want in one
bill. Right. I know this is a big one. But you
can't cut everything in one bill. There's a starting
place. Now, according to Elon, this is adding
to the debt. I don't know. I haven't read it.
I read it's adding $5 trillion over I don't know
how many years. Ten years, maybe. And I thought
the goal of this was to help reduce, or at least
Trump's administration was to reduce the debt,
right? Because Doge, you know, whether we like
it or not, it didn't cut that much. Right. In
the grand scheme of things. It's not going to
move the needle much. But is it $5 trillion in
10 years? So that's $500 billion a year. I don't
know what it's going to add. Is that what it
is, $5 trillion? I heard $5 trillion. I don't
know over how many years. But I guess if we go
back, what is the budget, like the last budget
got passed, how much did that add to the deficit?
We're running trillion -dollar deficit with every
budget. So this is half that. That is like a
trillion every hundred days or something. Yeah,
I thought it was with interest. It's added a
trillion like every hundred days. Well, yeah,
not counting the interest. I'm talking about
the budget itself. Right. We spend a trillion
more than we bring in. Yeah. Well, here's my
thought on it. I am hoping that our Congress,
our House, and our Senate are doing what's right.
And I'm hoping that they're looking out for our
best interest because, frankly, we don't know
jack shit what's in that damn thing until it's
published. And it's frustrating. Even then we
don't know. Yeah, even then it's, what is it,
obfuscation? It's just smoke. Yeah, it's ridiculous.
It's 600 pages. We can chat GBT to analyze it.
And they made him read it over the weekend, too.
Yeah, Chuck Humor did that. Yeah. Yeah, they're
playing all showmanship and just playing politics
and all that kind of shit. So where are they
at? I'd like the Audible version, please. Yeah,
right? You got the audiobook? That'd be much
better. But you know what? Can Sylvester Stallone
read that? Three minutes into it, you'd be like,
screw this. I guarantee it. It's probably the
most boring read ever. Well, they've got to have
an actor do different voices. Oh, there we go.
Like in George Washington and Abe Lincoln. Oh,
that'd be fun. Oh, that'd be great. Yes. Like
the Founding Fathers read it, too. Four school
and seven years ago. Did you burp or fart or
what did you do on that one? I don't know. I
had a little minute heart trip. Yes, I did. Blame
it on the bourbon. It is. It's good bourbon.
It is kind of tasty. It's opening up some. I'm
not loving it, but it's better than my first
sip. Yeah. Let's talk about it real quick. Oh.
An early pull on this, okay? That's all right.
So, Jackie, you want to go ahead and... Are we
really? No, with our bourbon. Oh, I thought you
meant with the... I was like, holy shit, that
went by fast. I've got some left here. Not a
lot. So, Jackie, walk us through why you got
the bottle and why you brought it and what it
is. So, it's 1792, aged 12 years. So, it sounds
enticing, right? So, you see it on the shelf.
It sounds good. I have the vertical. I really
like the 1792 products. Probably my favorite
is their, I really like their single barrels.
I really like their bottle and bond. Chuck, what's
your favorite from the 1792? You buy it all the
time. The full proof. Full proof, yeah. Full
proof. Full proof is excellent. And the single
barrel is great. Yeah. It's excellent. The full
proof is really, for me, this full proof is almost
like a little too much. I don't know. It's like
a peppery forward. It's got a bite. It's 125
proof. It does. And I like a higher proof. This
one is coming in a little bit lower and it tastes
lower to me. So it doesn't have the, I like a
little teeth. My sweet spot is really like 115.
Yeah. So I like great flavor, like a great flavor
profile. I like a little bit of heat. I wonder
how we would compare this to Rebecca Creek's
12 year. I don't know. I don't know. We don't
have it anymore. No, we don't. But I mean, I'm
just like, you know, 12 year, because 12 year
you would think is a super rich, super thick,
and it's got just, it's robust with this caramel
and just popping. And I taste caramel, but it's
almost like, you know, when you get to the end
of something, you have that last little bite
of caramel and it's not quite enough. Caramel
white. Yeah, it tastes like sugar -free caramel.
Right, exactly. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, it's surprising.
I think all of us can agree that 12 -year, you
would think it hits you with a lot. That is the
word. And there's not a lot there. It's very
light. Yeah, that is the word, light. It's just
light. It has all the taste, and I'm not denying
the taste isn't there, but it's not pronounced.
I want to use the word pungent. It's watered
down. It does taste watered down to me. I think
that's what it is. I think they made the bottles
before they juice. And the reason I bought it
was, you know, I walk into... and it's sitting
on the allocation shelf. So I'm thinking to myself.
Yeah, you don't see this very often. No, not
at all. So I have seen it on the secondary market
a lot, and it's selling for $200 a bottle. Oh,
wow. Holy shnikes. Can you imagine paying $200
a bottle and pouring that? I would be disappointed.
Very disappointed. Yeah. So in my mind, I was
like, oh, that's a great one. That's one that
probably people wouldn't take. And be excited
about when they open it up. Yeah. You said that
there weren't a lot of people that had a lot
of bourbon experience, so I'm making the assumption
that with a bourbon exchange that it's people
that know a little bit about bourbon. It's something
that you would want to gravitate towards. It
falls a little flat for me. Again, I know we
always say this when we shit on a bourbon. It's
like, well, I mean, it's enjoyable. If I were
to have the entire bottle sitting in front of
me, it'd be gone. You're right. Because that's
the kind of drink this is. Because it's one where
you can pour it and it doesn't taste horrible
and it's not that strong. 96 is crushable. If
we had a full night of drinking nothing else,
we would knock the bottle out. No question about
it. And we'd have a good time doing it. I'm almost
through mine. It was a pretty generous pour to
begin with. I'm not complaining about drinking
it. I'm just saying, For me, I wouldn't search
it out, I wouldn't seek it out, and I probably
wouldn't recommend it. It's all about expectations.
Yeah, my expectations were high for this because
I know some of the single barrels, the full proofs
and bottom bonds are really good. I was expecting
more out of this. Yep, I would agree. More. Maybe
if it was at a higher proof, maybe that would
help it, but I don't know. It's going to be interesting
to rate this. I give it a two. 0 .1. True on
a scale of what? Yeah, 0 .9 for Jackie. No. I
mean, flavor. The only thing I liked about it
was I thought it was beautiful in the glass,
so it's nice and dark. Yeah, it had legs on it.
It did. It has beautiful legs on it, so I was
anticipating with that oily, that it would be
really nice and it would kind of coat your mouth
and that mouthfeel would be really nice. Not
so much. All right. So for reference, the ones
that we like the most are usually mid -high eights
to low nines. Those are the best scores we've
given on anything we've ever really tasted. Right.
So something that is like, you know, it's not
bad. I wouldn't kick out of bed, as Sean likes
to say. Six, maybe. Things that drop below the
five, you know, into the five range, we're like,
man, wouldn't buy it again. I wouldn't buy it
again. Right. So I'm going to go with a 5 .4
on this one. Yeah, I'm going to be in the fives.
It's slightly better than some of the others
we've had out there. I think more of it is disappointment.
Underwhelming. I was expecting more. I was expecting
more performance wise. Yes. So. Yep. Would you
say five, four? I'll match you right there. Yeah.
That's me. Five, four. What'd you say, Jackie?
Yeah, I'm going to say a five. Five even? Yeah.
So I'm going to go a little bit higher. And the
reason why. Is because it's a 96 proof. Now,
if you compare it in the world of Michter's 10
-year, which is also 95, 96 proof, and the Garrison
Brothers, which is also 95 proof, it's nowhere
near there. No. It's nowhere near there. But
if this were a little bit thicker and concentrated
with the same proof, I would see it being comparable.
Because it's lighter. We had that old bar. Age
12 years is what I read on the bottle. An Eagle
Rare is 10 years, right? Yeah. Do you like it
better than Eagle Rare? I love Eagle Rare. I
would say I like this better than Eagle Rare.
Okay. Well, you give Eagle Rare a five. Yeah.
No, I was going to plant this at a six two. I
was going to give it a six two. I don't want
to give this six five, but I don't want to give
it a five because I'm actually, I like this.
I would pour it and I could drink this. Me, I'm
drinking it because I want to get to the end
of my glass so I can have something else. Right.
I'm not one to pour anything out. I'm not a drain
pour person or anything. I'm like, you know,
everything has its merit. Let's say you're at
a friend's house and they've got a bottle of
1792 single barrel and 1792 12 year. I'm going
the single barrel 10 out of 10 times. Yeah, absolutely.
What about Williamsburg? Ooh, single barrel.
Ooh, man, now you're bringing a tough, tough
fight to the game here. It's called a coconut.
Ooh, a lot of coconuts. Yes. No, Wolfsburg was
one of our first, it was the patch of our first
whiskeys that we were, we get in. It's back when
we were buying shit whiskeys, and this one was
a really shit whiskey, and they've never forgiven
me for it. Did you think it was good? You read
the notes on the Total Wine little thing. It's
like, oh, this got coconut. I like coconut. That's
what I'm buying. Paul had an unfortunate trend
of picking things that, as a group, we didn't
like. It happened to be all of them. It did.
It was a trend. And it's a group thing, right?
It's a hit or miss. We don't know. We don't know
until it happens, but we sit there and we tell
them, yeah, pass that bottle over here. Let's
give ourselves a little bit more juice. Fuck,
Jeff doesn't even know what day it is. He didn't
even realize it was Tuesday until fucking...
I know. He got the little message. Are you serious?
You didn't know it was... No, I'm good. You didn't
know it was podcast night? No, I knew it was.
Oh, God. I feel like the producer should go get
something else so I can drink something different.
I'll go get something. I'm just a little bit
more, I'm a little envious. That's all. All right.
Yeah, underwhelming. Yes, I agree. And the worst
part of it is I have like a hydration stick in
my cup, so I can't even like swirl it out. Right.
Well, maybe after eight glasses of this, I don't
know, would it be better? I don't think so. I
don't know, I'm on my 10th. That's an interesting
hypothesis. We need to check that out. I think
everything tastes better. Does it taste better
at the bottom of the bottle than the top, maybe?
Maybe. The 1792 aged 12 years bourbon is known
for its rich and complex flavor profile, features
notes of vanilla, caramel, and oak with a prominent
rye and spice and hints of fruit, raspberry,
or cherry. Stone fruit. There we go. The finish
is often described as smooth with lingering flavors
of spice and oak. Nothing lingering, though.
Come on. And some reviews mention a balanced
sweetness and dryness. I think that's... There
is sweetness. You know, that's another thing
there, the dryness. That is kind of an odd...
I wouldn't say odd. It's kind of a... an unnormal
thing that I would think. I guess it is not.
It is atypical. Yeah. It absolutely is atypical
for a finish to be dry. I wonder if the dryness
comes from the age because I think the oak will
lend itself as it releases more of those tannins
and shit. It tastes bitter. Good point. The tannins
suck the juice out of my mouth. Damn tannins.
Yes. All right. Well, there you have it. A marginal
review. It's unfortunate. We were very excited
about this bottle. Yeah. But you know, again,
you know. Would I buy it again? No. How much
was it, by the way? $55. $55? Yeah, really reasonable.
But again, on secondary, I'm seeing it for $200,
so I'm thinking score, Jackie. By the way, I
have your bottle of Smoke Eye Hill. Oh, I could
have brought that, yeah. Oops. It's not like
I won't see you guys again. Well, I mean, after
the podcast, we can shoot over to the house,
and I live like half a mile from here. Okay.
Just swing by. Swing by. So, Paul, we talked
about the big, beautiful build. Were we done
with that? We were done with that. But there
was another topic on the board that I'm curious
about. You talked about Canada. Today is Canada
Day. It is. What does that mean? It's, you know,
like. It's not Independence Day for Canada. What's
Canada Day? It's when Canada became a country.
So, Ontario. What is Boxing Day? It's the day
after Christmas. What? The 26th of December is
Boxing Day. I can't remember the origin. Is that
where they practice moving boxes? No, we just
drink a lot. Boxing. What does that mean, boxing?
Is that a phrase? I don't know. I don't know.
Well, I know because I used to have folks that
I worked with a lot up in Canada, and I used
to cover Canada. Canada has a shit ton of holidays.
They do. A lot of holidays. So when I moved to
the United States, I remember when I first started
working, I was like, good Lord, I can hardly
wait for Easter weekend. They're like, Easter
weekend? So we have Good Friday off and Easter
Monday. So you get a four -day weekend. I wasn't
anticipating having to work. You also have Family
Day. The origin is mid -19th century from the
custom of giving trade people a Christmas box.
On this day. I'm really impressed that you can
read from that far away. I'm squinting. I know.
And I have a headache, a migraine now. Filled
with leftovers. So basically the food they don't
want. Is that what it said? Leftovers? It is.
And you eat and drink. So you go, it's kind of
the levy is what they call it. So you go from
place to place and people just have. You know,
food and drink. Well, it's the weekend after
Christmas, so you could imagine Christmas dinner.
You've got lots of leftovers. Why let them go
to waste? Yeah, but look at this description.
It's even worse. The lords and aristocrats would
give their servants Christmas boxes filled with
leftovers. You know what? We're done eating this
shit, so you can eat it now. Get out of here.
Bang, bang. So Canada Day. Yeah, let's go back
to Canada Day. July the 1st. Wow. So I'm going
to list off a bunch of Canadian celebrities real
quick. I'm just going to wrap right along. There's
a lot of great ones. It kind of surprised me.
Some I didn't expect. Keanu Reeves, Seth Rogen,
Pamela Anderson, Drake, Ryan Gosling, Ryan Reynolds,
Michael J. Fox, Sandra Oh, Mike Myers, Jim Carrey,
Celine Dion, Michael Cera, Justin Bieber, Avril
Lavigne, Dwayne Johnson. Yeah. Did you know that?
No. The Rock? The Rock. Yeah, I did not know
that. He's a Kanuki. Alanis Morissette, Keith
Sutherland, Michael Buble, Matt Perry, Kim Cattrall,
Rachel McAdams, Dan Aykroyd, Neil Young. And
Jackie Mack. Rachel McAdams. And Jackie Mack.
Oh, you like Rachel McAdams. I like Rachel McAdams.
Bob and Doug McKenzie. Bob and Doug McKenzie.
Tommy Chung. Tommy Chung. From Cheech and Chong.
You said Canuck. They're Canucks. Yeah. What
is a Canuck? That's what we call them, Canucks.
I know, and I know that's a hockey team. What
does the word Canuck mean? This is turning into
an interesting thing. Mr. Producer, I know. It's
quite interesting. We're challenging your Canadian
knowledge. It's a pizza. As well, Jackie. Well,
you know, my Canadian knowledge. Yeah, we'll
see how this goes. Let me drink some more. I
think it's kind of like, what is a Sooner? Right.
It's a... Someone that shows up early. They were
a pioneer, right? Oklahoma Sooner. What is a
Sooner? They were a pioneer that was conquering
the West back in the 1800s. Nah, it's someone
that shows up sooner than later. Oh, no. I don't
think you're going to lose. Maybe you finish
sooner than later. So a Canuck is a slang for...
Can you scroll up again? Did you say finish?
I did. Down right there. Slamming on the bourbon.
Slang term for a Canadian, though it's... Semantic
nuances are manifold? Yeah. Okay. Wikipedia wants
to slap you over the head with the big words.
Yeah, apparently. So it's based on this character,
Johnny Canuck, a wartime comic book character.
And ever since then, Canuck's in a book. I feel
like I need to know that. I'm going to commit
that to memory. There you go. So the Canucks
have an animal. Do you know what that animal
is? It's a beaver. Nice beaver. Yeah, sort of.
It's an anthropomorphic orca. Oh, of course.
A whale. So basically a walking whale. I don't
understand that at all. Anthropomorphic. Well,
that looks like a huge peen or something. Did
you say peen? Peen. You said peen. Jeff's cut
off. No more? No more. These are the words moist.
Canadian slang. What is it? Yeah. You don't like
that word? Moist. So anyway, today is July the
1st, and it is - Canada Day. Yeah, Canada Day.
I don't feel like we're any more knowledgeable
than we were five minutes ago. I don't feel like
that either, but it's okay. That's okay. We gave
it a shot. Right. So you'll remember July the
1st. It's right there. It commemorates the anniversary
of the British North American Act, which united
three British colonies, Canada, Nova Scotia,
and the New Brunswick. Nova Scotia. Into a single
dominion called Canada. Dominion. In 1867. Used
to be called it Dominion Day. Yeah, Canada Day
sounds a little bit better, but Dominion Day.
Yeah, that sounds kind of socialist. It was renamed
Canada Day in 1982. All right, well, there we
go. Pull up all Canadian holidays. Oh, I want
to see these. I used to have a list. We're going
to be scrolling for days. It's Canadian Day.
What do they do when they celebrate for Canada?
The same thing you do on July the 4th. You barbecue
and you fireworks. What is it that they're celebrating?
Independence? Yes. Because that's not happening
anymore. Yeah, they're becoming the 51st state,
aren't they? Listen, don't say that out loud.
My family's going to listen to this. But seriously,
Canada's got some hardships going on. They do.
So you got some standard ones in there. New Year's,
and you get Good Friday, Easter Monday, Victoria
Day, St. John Baptiste Day. Is that like Victoria's
Secret Day? Canada Day, Civic Holiday, Labor
Day, National Day for Truth and Reconciliation.
That sounds ridiculous. Thanksgiving Day, Remembrance
Day, Christmas Day, and Box Day. And the civic
holiday is Arbor Day, so it's a military day.
So those are all days you get off in Canada.
Yeah. What do you look at the U .S. list? I've
never seen the national day. It's like four.
It is not. It's like five. Yeah, it's like half,
not even half that. Yes. New Year's Day. And
then you skip President's Day and all those because
most people don't get those. So you get Memorial
Day. Then you got July 4th, Labor Day, Thanksgiving,
Christmas. Yeah, that's it. Man, we suck. What's
the story behind Canada Dry, the soft drink?
Oh, boy. That's not random. It's delicious. I
mean, a lot of people drink Canadian dry. It's
ginger ale. It's not really bacon. It's ham.
Ham. And let me tell you something. I just want
to straighten things up here about Canadian bacon.
Only Americans call it freaking Canadian bacon.
We eat the same bacon that you eat. We don't
eat a round of bacon. Yeah. Do you call it American
bacon? We do. No. No, bacon is bacon. I didn't
find out about Canadian bacon until I moved here.
Hold on. There is definitely a difference between
Canadian bacon and normal bacon. Yeah, it's kind
of hammy. I'm actually making some downstairs.
I know, you mentioned that. You're making some
Canadian bacon? He's like the meatologist. I
tell you what, if there's like a zombie apocalypse,
Jeff is going to be our chef. Good, so that means
my radio needs to be on his channel. Hey, well
I'm about to buy it. I'm about to buy it. We're
going to have challenges. A ham radio? You're
going to get a ham radio? We are. A Canadian
bacon radio. I'm getting two types of radios.
I'm getting a ham radio, and I'm also getting
a high -frequency radio. I'm getting a four -pack.
Here's the problem. In a post -apocalyptic zombie
-type world, we have to assume there's no power.
Well, okay, let's take it another step. How are
we going to communicate with two radios? Okay.
Two -way radio. So listen. Fire. I'm not saying
necessarily that fire. Smoke signals. Smoke signals.
But I'm saying more like, let's say the cell
phone towers go down. Okay. Then the two -way
radios would work. So I was doing some research
because prior to coming to the podcast, we were
talking about, I don't even know what the fuck
we got on there. But I was like, well, which
one's better? Is it the UHF, the VHF? And then
there was an HF, a high -frequency one. And so
it turns out the high -frequency ones go the
furthest. They're not fantastical for close -up.
They work. How far do they typically go? They're
the farthest, so I don't know. Can you say 1
,000 miles is what the advertisement says? Ham
radios do. So there is a SIM card that you can
put in some of these high frequencies. That's
a cell tower. It will jump off the cell towers
to enhance it, but just as the high -frequency
ones, they'll go 100 miles. You know, the regular
VHF ones will go about 38, 40 miles. And you
can pick those up at Home Depot. Yeah. What's
the CB radios? The whole breaker, breaker, one,
nine, breaker, breaker. That's essentially a
ham radio because you've got the tall antenna.
You know, that's the spirit behind that. I'm
kind of. You're going to have the tall antenna
on your car. Hey, look, if that's what's going
to make it. You're going to have your call sign.
Oh, dude, when I get my battery -powered trike,
I'm going to have that antenna on the back. I'll
have a little flag on it, you know, a little
CB radio. Hey, Paul, I'm on my way. I'm going
to go pick up Chuck. I'm just going to drink
bourbon. Well, they sell now. I hear the commercials
for them. They sell, instead of cell phones,
they're these almost like walkie -talkies. Probably
what you're talking about. I've heard commercials
for them. Yeah, they're 5G. They're a couple
hundred bucks a pop. They used to have that already.
It was Nextel. Nextel had the push to talk. Okay,
how did it go? Just like that. Jeff, are you
there? Jeff, are you there? What tribe is that?
I remember that. John, are you picking me up?
I don't think it sounded anything like that.
Very close, though. I feel like it did. I didn't.
I'm pretty sure it did. I've got some memories
for that. Look, you never know what's going to
happen. I mean, we had, in 2020, we had, for
me, in this general area, we had the power, except
for fucking Jeff's house. That was perfectly
fine. Same. Fucking asshole. But, you know, I
had power out for like three or four days, five
days even, you know, and that sucked. That year
I decided, just before Snowmageddon, I decided
that I was going to buy, I was going to use my
fireplace for the first time ever. And I bought
a cord of wood. What are the odds? And then a
week later, we have Snowmageddon. It saved your
life. It saved my life. So my question is, how
would you use those radios with your power out
on Snowmageddon? Hey, it sucks, man. Well, first
you have to, you probably. Hey, Jeff, do you
have any more of that whiskey? That's what I
mean. At least I know what I'm listening for.
I'm heading over to Chuck's house. I think he's
got some. At least it wouldn't be. It'd be better
than that. I guarantee it. Well, my point is,
how many people have them out there? Just a few
of us. There is a community of people. I know
there are. I know there are. And so I bought
mine a long time ago. And literally yesterday,
I watched some TikTok video. A two -way radio.
You bought one. I did. I bought one in 2020.
And who are you talking to on this thing? I'm
not talking to anybody. I'm just going to be
prepared. Some person in Canada. That's what
I mean. Okay, we're prepared. But when that time
comes. No, I'm going to get. What's going to
happen? I just plugged mine in. Hey, anybody
out there? To charge it. Yes, that's exactly
it. It's anybody out there. You have not watched
The Handmaid's Tale. Anybody out there. Yes.
If you watch The Handmaid's Tale, then you would
buy yourself a radio because you're going to
need to communicate somehow. That's true. You
know what? I think it's important. I mean, look,
if your power's going to be out and if it's a
temporary thing, let's say it's out for two,
three days. Hey, man, look, I need you to go
to the store. All right, well, there's fucking
weird shit going on. Take the radio with you.
If something happens, I want to know. Yeah, I
think it's a good idea. I just think the network
of it, how many folks actually have them, I think
could hold it back. I mean, you're going to have
some folks that are having it, but it's not like
everybody has a cell phone. I just want mine
to work. Well, they won't be working. Well, I
know, but who are you going to talk to is my
point. All the same. Your housemates? Yeah, your
housemates. Well, the ham radio is different
than the long -range, high -frequency ones. Those
are, you can buy a two -pack, four -pack, et
cetera. That's for your family. If you go camping,
hiking, or something, that's what I'm referring
to. Yeah, we have the walkie -talkies up at the
cabin. Okay, okay. And those have a two -mile
radius. Yeah, and those are good. That'll help
you go wherever you want. And they go around
obstacles. It really depends. I mean, just for
the short amount of time I spent researching
it, I mean, I figured out the high -frequency
ones, and they cost a little bit more, three
times the amount. Yeah, those little walkie -talkies,
they last forever. Up at the cabin, you're like,
we'll be sitting in the cabin, and then somebody
will be walking around, and you'll be like. Hey,
this is Paul. What are you guys doing? We're
walking around. What are you doing? We're sitting
in the cabin. You're still walking around? Yeah.
What are you doing? Still sitting in the cabin.
Do you have a bottle of oxygen? They're really,
really, really handy. I know, but we have not
had, like, really, the world shut down. Yeah,
but until you fall in a little ravine or something,
and you need it. Radio goes flying. Yeah. I broke
my leg. I broke my leg. Is anybody out there?
And the thing's still up at the top. Is anybody
out there? There's a bone sticking out of my
leg. Is anybody out there? As long as you have
your Rambo knife, you can cut your bone leg off.
It doesn't have a GPS. I have a Rambo knife,
too. Does anybody else have a two -way radio?
I have a bone sticking out of my leg. Over. Well,
where are you at? I'm in Colorado. Oh, I'm in
New Orleans. I'm in New Hampshire. What's the
weather like there? Yeah, I don't see this being
practical, guys. I really don't. It's not about
practicality. When I have my radio and Sean and
I are talking and y 'all are left in the dark.
The emergency systems, broadcasting systems out
there, they have towers specifically for these
things. So if you have it with you, then you
know what you need it. I don't know. I recommend
you get it. I don't have one yet. It's not the
dumbest idea for sure. Yeah, I think they'd be
really good if you do a lot of camping and hiking.
Especially with your family and shit like that.
I know I've seen some people, if you go to these
amusement parks, like Disney World, they'll split
up and they'll have these little walkie -talkies.
Oh, yeah. We used them on the cruise. Do you
remember 30 years ago, 35 years ago, when before
everyone had phones? I mean, that's what we did.
I mean, on a road trip, we'd have three or four
cars lined up. We had walkie -talkies. It was
the best thing ever. We had the solo cups with
the string. Right. It gets to go the same speed.
I actually had the tin can. Paul could actually
tune his hearing aids in. He catches it. I don't
think I can do that. Maybe that's a feature I
haven't unlocked. Yeah, we've got the little
walkie -talkies before. So I'm going to be prepared.
When it comes to hobbies, though, I think the
ham radio would be... A really cool thing. Talk
to people in Australia and shit, man. But the
ham radio, you have to have a license for it.
So the walkie -talkie, no license. Do you have
to have a license to have the ham radio or the
antenna? Well, what would use be without the
antenna? Yes. I mean, but those are two different
things. I mean, are you going to get in trouble
for having the radio or are you going to get
in trouble for having the 25 -foot antenna? Yeah,
you have to have a ham radio operator's license.
Is there a test? Yes. I'd fail the test. It's
extensive. Forget it. I know lots of guys that
have, you know, tech guys that have their...
Why do they make it difficult to get one? I don't
know. It's an exclusive club. It's probably some
mid -1940s test that's never been looked at again.
Right. Probably. Great. Some law somewhere. Yeah.
It's kind of like your motorcycle license. Do
you have that? Speaking of law... Do you have
a motorcycle license? You don't ride dirty? God,
no. Speaking of laws, I saw this question posed.
What the hell? What just happened? I don't know.
I feel dirty. I'm sorry. I'm never getting on
my motorcycle again. Clean. Anyway, the question
posed, and I don't know what the answer is. Maybe
somebody here does. The question was how Tesla
now has these self -driving cars, and Austin
and Waymo has them out in San Francisco. Great.
So if I have a self -driving car, I bought a
Tesla, and it's got self -driving. And I go out,
and I get shit -faced. And I sit in the passenger
seat in the back seat. And I go, and the car's
driving me home. and it wrecks, who is responsible
for that wreck? Elon Musk. I don't know. Can
I get a DUI? I'm not driving. I'm a passenger
in my car. That actually is a great question.
I think you would get the ticket because is it
legal for you to drive, to have the car drive
itself? Yes. I mean, what if you called a robo
-tax? I don't know. I've never heard this. That's
what I mean. It's legal. Yeah, they have them
in Austin. And the Waymos, all those cars that
are lighting on fire in Los Angeles, those are
self -driving cars. Okay. You would absolutely
not get a ticket. Those are two different things,
though. But your Tesla also has a self -driving
feature. Okay. If you're behind the wheel, you'll
get a ticket. But if you're sitting in the passenger
seat. You're not. Well, who gets the ticket if
the car crashes? Plain devil's advocate, I would
say that if you're driving a self -driving car.
But you're not driving it, though. If it has
all the features like these self -driving cars
do to pick up people at the airport, take them
wherever, they drive slow, they've got the cameras
everywhere, and they've got sound. But instead
of having a self -driving feature that's on your
car. That helps when you need to turn around
and grab something out of the back seat. Or you
drop something on the floorboard in your passenger
seat. I don't know. I mean, is that legal to
do? That's the question. Well, they're developing
self -driving cars. That's where this robo -taxi
is going to. At this point in time. Because the
question was, who's liable? Well, Tesla has it
now. That's what I mean. Is it Tesla, the software
engineers? I'd say it's your fault. Because it's
not a proven... No, it is. It's happening now.
This isn't a futuristic scenario. So is this
a licensed thing that they have? Because there
needs to be some sort of responsibility. Who's
liable at that point? That's what I mean. I don't
know what the law is. Currently, they're saying
if you are intoxicated inside a self -driving
car, even if it is self -driving, you have an
option of taking control of that car, then it's
on you. Now, if they come out with, there's no
steering wheel in the car. and then you call
a robotaxi and you have no option of taking control
of that car, then you can be intoxicated is the
future, though, right? So can you be in the passenger
seat or in the back seat? No, because you still
have the option of taking control of that car.
So if I'm in the back seat, it's still my fault.
Yep. You can't take control of the car from the
back seat. Well, especially if you're drunk past
that. Well, you could climb over a seat. I was
drunk. I didn't want to drive. I thought this
was safer. Uber. Yeah. My car drives itself.
They had a self -driving test. They're still
going to work it out, I'm sure. It's a new technology.
They had another test. This just happened this
past week where they had self -driving cars.
They were putting them through tests and they
failed. There was a kid that was going down the
street. It was a fake kid, of course. All of
a sudden, it just pops out in front of a car.
You know how kids do that, chasing a ball. Back
up over them again. Oh, my bad. No, I got them.
I got them. Yeah, so I think the technology has
a lot to go because when you're driving your
car, there's a lot that you have. I mean, we
do it by just second nature at this point, but
there's a lot that you're paying attention to
at any given time. And I don't think cars are
there yet to account for that. Right. A lot of
the stuff that happens. So if you're in a situation,
you're like, this car is coming over. Well, if
I get over, I'm going to hit somebody. But if
I don't get over, this car is going to hit me.
Who makes that decision? Right. Does the car
allow itself to get hit or does it come over
here and does it take out these people standing
on the side of the road? Right. And then there
are certain scenarios where it gets confused
when a human brain wouldn't. I remember the early
self -driving Teslas. There was some scenario
where a white, like a semi -truck, the trailer
part, it would get confused about, The way it
looked, and it rammed right into a number of
those things. So there's certain scenarios, and
I'm sure they coded for it and fixed it and all
that kind of stuff. But again, you're programming
it to understand patterns, and that's no match
for the human brain right now. I'm thinking right
now it would be a bad idea to do it. I don't
know the legality on it, but I'm just thinking
it'd be bad. I don't either, and I wouldn't trust
it now either. You know, there are some people
who are saying, well, it'd be the software developer's
fault because they... No. No, it's kind of like,
you know, is it the beer makers or the whiskey
makers' fault? Do you drive drunk? You know,
I mean, it's kind of... But you're not driving.
Yeah. I mean, what if you get a flat tire? You
know, is it the tire manufacturer's fault? Where
do you draw the line? Oh, I know. I'm, again,
playing devil's advocate. I don't know. I personally
think it would be unfair to charge a backseat
driver to have a DWI. It would be unfair, but
that's the way the rules are today. So you'd
have to have a different law written, either
federally or statewide. And they'll need to do
that. Somebody posed the question the other day,
what happens, and he's seen it happen, if they're
designed to avoid people, pedestrians, and what
if somebody's just running around your car? And
you can't move for like an hour. Right. And,
and they, you have no way of like moving. Like
a protester. Yeah. Yeah. A protester or just
a jackass, you know, same thing, right? There
needs to be a protester override button where
you can run over. Yeah. Yeah. Like in Florida,
you can just gun it. It's called a four wheel
drive. I like that. In Florida, you just gun
it. Right. But the, the, the computer doesn't
know what to do if it's, if it's confused. Right.
And it's got multiple things of crash avoidances
and it, and it's tied up for, For forever, you
know? I'm not buying one of these cars. You'll
never get home. I'm definitely not buying one
of these cars. I'm not a proponent for it either.
I'm not the first car around anyway. Yeah, I
don't think it's ready. Not even close. Even
on the Jetsons, they still drive their own car.
They're little spaceships. You're so forward
thinking. Do that again, Jeff. Well, that was
2025, right? You said the Jetsons occurred in
2025? Yeah, that's true. That's good stuff, man.
I hate that. I hate when they do that in the
future and we're already past their future. I
hate that. All right, anyway. Oh, hold on. Let's
see if we got a little voiceover. Oh, now we
can see how close Jeff was. Here we go. See?
Oh, my God. What the hell is that? It was right
on. But they had to drive, though. Yeah. They
were there driving. But they do have the robot,
the housemaid. Alice? Was it Alice? Bianca? I
can't remember. Bianca. Okay. Yes. Who's that?
I watched the Jetsons when I moved to the United
States. You have never watched Jetsons? I haven't.
I mean, I haven't really. George Jensen. I mean,
I knew who they are. But that wasn't a cartoon
that I watched. Jane is wife. I never watched
it. Do you ever watch any of the Hanna -Barbera
cartoons? Yeah. Absolutely. Yogi Bear? No, no,
no. One in particular. We're not talking about
this one. So painful. Paul has a... condition
against Hanna -Barbera. It's more PTSD. Was it
from the show? No, it was from when you guys
talk about it. Often? We talked about it once.
We talked about it once, but we went into depth
about the Hanna -Barbera once they had the Olympics
and just all the different He -Man and all the
Captain K -Man and stuff like that. That was
fun. It was the times we grew up. It was good.
You know, I miss all, you don't see these anymore,
and I don't know if it's because they have to
be politically correct anymore, but the Warner
Brothers, the Mary Melodies. There is a station
on Tableau that you can get. It's called Tune
Network. They have all the old Hanna -Barbera,
all the Yogi Berra, all that shit. I see, I see,
I see, I see. Yes. I bought that boy a ride.
Pay attention when I'm talking to you, boy. That
boy make me nervous about a cat with a 50 -foot
tail and a room full of rocking chairs. I don't
know where that came from. And we'd never be
able to say that now. No. No way. So Max is dropping
a new Looney Tunes movie. Who is? Yeah, well,
HBO. Oh, HBO? Yeah. It's not going to be as good.
I don't call it Max. I'm still calling it HBO,
even though it says Max on my screen. Well, they're
splitting that all apart again. Are they really?
Yes. God. Yeah, the CEO did that, has finally
changed his tune. It says, yeah, we're going
to have to split all this stuff apart again.
All the money and time they spent doing that.
Okay, so what is this now? The Day the Earth
Blew Up? Looney Tunes movie. You see, that's
why you need the radio. This is the new thing,
huh? Well, I mean, we'll see. I'm willing to
give it a try. Yeah, why not? There's such a
dearth of actual shows on right now. Oh, God.
It does seem like it. Maybe it's violent. Maybe.
Does it say that it's violent? It features Porky
Pig, Daffy Duck as unlikely heroes facing an
alien invasion. Interesting. I like Martian.
Marvin the Martian. I love Marvin the Martian.
Martians from another planet? Yeah, I was a huge
fan. I used to watch it every Saturday. There'd
be four hours of Looney Tunes on the TV, and
I would sit there and I'd watch all of it every
single Saturday. And Bugs Bunny, Roadrunner was
my favorite. Yeah. And Coyote was my favorite.
But I think I've seen all of them probably a
dozen times. But it's your favorite, but they
never say anything. Like, how is it our favorite?
How are we so enamored by the Wile E. Coyote?
The constant struggle. It was. Yeah, maybe that's
it. That's what it was. Yeah. Yeah, the Roadrunner
was so cocky. Beep, beep. He's just like this.
He's just going to go, what's up? Beep, beep.
He can't have me. That damn, yeah, was it a cat?
What's the other guy that's trying to kill him?
It's a coyote. Coyote. Wile E. Coyote. That's
right. He'd always use the shit from Acme. Yes.
Acme brick, Acme cement, Acme bomb. TNT from
Acme, yes. Yes, it makes no sense, right? It
is. Anyway, so Tom and Jerry was my favorite.
Oh, that was one of my favorites, too. I'd watch
Tom and Jerry. That was on the weekdays, though.
I'd see those after school. Yes. That's when
I'd watch those. Bugs Bunny laid down some classic
ones, though. Oh, yeah. Elmer Fudd, and you remember
the one where they had the opera music? Oh, yeah.
Yes, yes. I think we're dating ourselves. Classic
ones there, man. You got to deep dive into Bugs,
but not all of them are winners, but there are
some really good ones. Huh, I don't remember
that. Interesting, the one with the opera music.
All right, well, welcome back. Yeah, sorry, gentlemen.
You know, when your parents are older and they
call, you answer because you never know what
the hell is going to happen or what's happening.
Did they say there's a code texted to you? I
need it. I need to log into your Netflix. No,
it was medical. My mom's got some, you know,
it's whatever. It's just all these times that
they call. But it happens all the time. Your
parents call, and you just got to bring them.
You got to answer. I'm still that way with my
children, and they're all adults. So if my kids
call, I'm like, hold on a second. There's got
to be a reason. My daughter texted me because
she knows. She's like, Mom, I love these boots.
I said, do you need them? Do you need me to buy
them for you? And you say yes always? I do. We're
suckers. Parents, you know? I don't think we
are. You know, I want my kids to have the most
I can offer them. But there comes a point where
your kids need to grow up and be responsible.
And I love when that happens. I love when that
will happen. We'll have him in the future. And
they start buying their own shit? Not just in
general. I mean, there comes a point. Look, I
grew up different. I mean, I moved out of the
house, and I was 18, and I never moved back.
Right. And I've been self -proficient. I've never
depended on anybody. I've never asked for a loan
from anybody. I've done it myself. I did it my
way. Wow. But we preconditioned them, so we really
can't go like, oh, my gosh. They're to blame.
We're kind of to blame. It's a parenting technique.
It is. We could probably get into that. There's
some other things. We'll talk about second half,
about parenting techniques and cell phones and
all that shit. Jackie, you sticking around for
the second half? Absolutely. Wouldn't miss it.
Good. First half of the Dudes Like Us podcast,
July 1st. Shout out to 1792 for the 12 years.
Shout out to Chuck. Take care of business is
our producer. Dudes Like Us. I'm Sean. I'm Paul.
I'm Joe. Whoa. What in the hell? He had a stroke,
ladies and gentlemen. I was stroking. I think
so. Oh, Lord. And I'm Jackie Mack.