So are we ever going to change the theme music?
No. The cheers? I don't know. I mean, I'm not
saying we have to. I'm just kind of like, you
know. Maybe like a Debbie Gibson or Britney Spears
opening. Speaking of Britney. Dude, I saw. Who
is the basketball player? Britney Griner. Britney
Grinder. No D. Close. Britney Griner. They did
an interview. Some YouTuber trapped her and was
kind of, hey, so we have some people that do
lip reading and they said some negative things
about Caitlin Clark, right? Is that her name?
Yes. And dude, I don't care what she said. I
don't care about the interview. She sounded like
a dude. She totally sounded like a dude. She
has a deep voice. By the way, she went to Baylor
and they accused her at Baylor of being a dude.
Pull up some audio on that girl. Yeah. Would
never say that. Like, there's no place for that
in our league. Wouldn't say that. So even though
you can't remember, you know that that was not
what you said? No, it wasn't that because I wouldn't
use that type of language. Okay. Thank you very
much. Oh my God, it's even deeper than I thought.
That is like a baritone. Are you sure that wasn't
dubbed? No, I've heard her voice before. Really?
That's really the voice? And there she is hanging
out at a pool with a... With her breasts exposed.
Is that real? That's not real. That is real.
I've seen that before. Well, she doesn't have
boobs then. How is that possible? So it is a
dude. What are you talking about? She filed out
against the Indiana Fever. A lot of people believe
what you said was effing white girl or effing
white girls. Is it possible that's what you said?
No, would never say that. Like, there's no place
for that in our league. Wouldn't say that. So
even though you can't remember, you know. I had
no idea she sounded that much. Look, I don't
care. I don't care either. I really don't because
it works, whatever. But at the same time, they've
got video. They got that. Then there's video
of her frolicking in a pool where she's throwing
the basketball around. She's got no shirt on.
She's topless. And there is literally no breath.
She looks like a dude. I have bigger boobs than
she does. Kind of a thing. Yeah. I mean, look
at that hand. There's something wrong with that.
She could palm a basketball. Actually, she looks
like a dude from behind. She's seven foot. Yeah,
she's almost seven feet tall, so consider that.
She can also dunk, you know. Oh, she could. Could
it be like the boxer? Remember the boxer that
took all sorts of heat in the Olympics? Well,
that was a dude. Well, I know, but. Well, you
do have people out there that have the... That
are in the gray area. They are. They're out there.
She may be one of them. I don't know. She may
be one of them. I'm not doubting. Yeah, and there's
no reason to dog on her. I'm not dogging on her.
No, no. I kind of started to. There's no reason
to. I don't mean... I think she's a little rude,
but I don't know how... I see some of the foul...
I didn't mean rude, but I think she's a little
aggressive on some of her basketball player,
but... I think Caitlyn kind of flops a little
bit sometimes. Oh, she does. She does a lot.
That wasn't a flop. I mean, those weren't flops.
Well, that was a flop. That was a little bit
of an exaggeration. We're seeing some clips of,
I guess, Caitlyn around Greiner or around anybody.
Yeah. All right. Well, this is June 17th. This
is the second half of the Dudes Like Us podcast.
I'm Sean. Wow. I'm Paul. And I'm Jeff. You kind
of sprung that on us. Well, you know what? I
did want to forget because you know how we are,
ADD. We're going everywhere, man. You're going
to age. Yeah. We got to make sure we get in there.
I don't even know if that was on the board. What,
our age? No, the Brittany Grinder thing. No,
it wasn't. It was just something that was brought
up. It just kind of caught me off guard. You
were talking about Grinder, and then you went,
oh, speaking of Grinder, your account on Grinder?
No, I don't have an account on Grinder. Yeah,
tell us about that. You know, it's funny because
you guys keep bringing up that Grinder stuff,
and I had no idea that it was what you guys said
it was. I just thought it was another idea. Dude,
I just thought a swipe left or right. I've never.
had one of those so i don't know well i think
i think let's tell you i think dating today via
the dating apps would just be horrible yes because
you could post anything out there and say you're
anything anything and you know photoshop use
someone else's picture use a picture from 10
years ago or whatever and you show up on these
dates you just like really well the other problem
is it seems like it's so liberal now like anybody
is good with anything you know what i mean well
i don't know about that i think no i think that's
true i think more people are like like oh yeah
i could i'll date anything girl or guy or with
this or that i don't know if i agree with that
because i see some of these interviews of these
girls that are on only fans there's a uh podcast
out there called uh i can't remember what what
is it or something like that and they interview
these ladies they're like what is your ideal
man like well you know six one six two making
over you know, $200 ,000. Masculine. And being
this, that, and the like. You realize that's
like 0 .2 % of the men out there. Oh, yeah. So
your pool of men is actually extremely small.
So when they hear that, they're like, most of
your men are, you know, five, eight, nine, whatever
the average height is. Yeah, sure. Making, you
know, 60 grand a year. Absolutely. You know,
weighing this much. And, you know, they're like,
that's your pool of men. So you're turning all
of these men, which are probably extremely good
men. Yeah. For these. Exceptionally probably
stuck on themselves. And they're probably douchebags,
right? So we're looking at a panel of women.
We got four very, very cute. No, it's not. It's
four very, very cute women. And then Jabba the
Hutt. Whatever podcast. I've watched this. Is
this a regular panel? No. She's a guest. So she's
had her own little thing going on. Oh, no. Pull
up some audio of her talking. That's got to be
hilarious. Oh, no. I will try to see if I can
find it. Do we really want to hear this? Oh,
my God. They have so many memes of her. It's
like, you know, her friends are all talking,
then she gets on there. It's like Jabba the Hutt.
He's all about a hot solo. But these guys get
these only fan girls on there. And they question
them and go, you know, your lifestyle. And you're
like, you know, you've had, you know, 150 guys.
And men don't want that. Yeah, they don't. Because
you date a man, you're like, there's 150 guys
before me. What does it make me think there's
going to be 100 guys after me? But besides that,
who wants some vaginal cavity that's been destroyed
150 times, regardless whether. Is vaginal cavity
on the board? I'm just saying, who wants a woman
that's been used and abused? I hear you. And
it's not just that. It's not just physically.
It's mentally too. So when you get on these websites
and they're showing their body parts off, they're
masturbating, they're not desirable. Quite honestly,
somebody you would be interested, you would want
them to have a certain image of what sex means.
Does that make sense? Quick freeze. Wow, okay.
Okay, okay. That's what she says. Yes, okay.
But I mean, do you guys agree with me? I mean,
they want somebody that has a certain opinion
about what sex means. Like, it's a connection
with another human being. It's not... Have sex
with 150 guys because it doesn't matter. Yeah,
men don't want that. They don't want the person
that has multiples and multiples. It's a high
body count. I mean, it's an intimate connection.
I mean, if you have a Snickers bar, and it's
in the wrapper, and you open it up, and oh my
God, it falls on the ground, and you're not going
to pick it up off the ground and eat it. You
know, depending where you're at. Well, I mean,
depending where you're at. I'm just saying, you
don't want something nasty like that. It's just
like, because look, if your partner is out, if
your female, if the woman is out there and she
has that many relationships, she's obviously.
Right. And you're like, I would date you, but
you're a dirty secret partner. Low self -esteem.
I mean, you don't want somebody like that. No,
you're not. Well, it's a matter of trust as well.
You're like. you had all these men what makes
you think oh i'm finally the one that's going
to lock you right yep you're going to settle
down and is that because i have money and not
want that anymore is that the size of my penis
correct i mean i've got all these desirable things
what makes me the one all these other 150 other
guys that you did or whatever and and i think
these girls are going around about it granted
they're probably making serious bank but they
are I mean, you got these guys that are paying
them like, I'll give you $2 ,500 if you fart
in a mason jar and mail it to me. Yeah. Why don't
you give me that dirty sock over there? How about
your shoe? Mail me your shoes. I'll give you
like $1 ,500. Yeah. Did you see the girl who
had her claim to fame? Haktua? No, she fucked
1 ,000 guys in one day. Yeah, come on. What the
fuck? So gross. Get out of here. You know? And
what the hell? Was it like a few thrusts and
then done? I don't know. Yeah, that's exactly
what it was. I mean, that would be frustrating
for me because I got to finish, you know? Well,
how would you like to be the 999th guy or the
1 ,000th guy? What is that looking like down
there? What's it smelling like? Okay. Like bringing
a dinner bell, man. It's just like, you know,
the guys are just as raunchy. First guy, you're
right on. After that, you're just like, dude.
Time for the butthole. Yeah, and I'm sure there
was some of that too, but I remember I read something
where - Actually, she said no, that that's not
something she was into. No, but as everything
was just - That's what she said. She said she
would be willing - It's good to know that she's
got limitations. Yeah, right? She said she would
be willing to try that later. I was like, okay,
let's not talk about this. This is so gross.
Well, it is. This girl is nasty. And you know
what? And it's on. Thank God they didn't put
it on the mainstream or they'd be crucified if
they put that on the Fox News or CNN or something
like that. But it's been on the mainstream on
some of these memes. Who wants to know that?
That is not something that the children of now
need to look up to. And certain stuff like that
needs to really, they need to drop the hammer
on some of that stuff. And I know it's probably,
well, you can't because we have our rights to
do this kind of stuff. But they can do whatever
they want. But I think it's inappropriate. It's
highly inappropriate. If they want to treat their
body like that, you know, whatever, but don't
expect some guy to come around and go, okay,
I know you slept with a thousand guys in 24 hours.
You know, awesome. Yeah, I'm into that. Yeah.
Yeah. Our kids are just going to fall right out.
I kind of agree with your assessment of it. I
mean, and not to belabor this topic, but I mean,
it's self -esteem. It is. I mean, obviously there's
something going on with, if you don't appreciate
your... You know what I mean? There are a lot
of women, girls, that are out there on the internet,
and they have these relationships with these
younger guys that it's, there's no sex. They're
streaming. They're either doing, I don't even
know if they use a specific app. They do like
Snapchat or something. They just sit there and
talk. That's it, for hours. Right. While they're
cooking, driving. Going to the store. Sitting
there playing a video game. They're just sitting
there. People watching you. It's creepy. How
did we get here? Is life that bad? I don't want
to say that they're shallow, but it's... Lonely.
Lonely? Yes, I think that's a big part of it.
Because OnlyFans, when you subscribe to OnlyFans,
depending on how much money you give them, they
give you... individual attention. Correct. I
think it's lonely guys. It's lonely guys that
are paying a ton of money to have them do a special
thing for them. Right. Yeah, sorry, go ahead.
No, I was going to say, you know, it's a bunch
of lonely men. I'm thinking, porn is essentially
free. Why are you going to... That's true. Why
are you spending money on it? Because you want
the individual response. You want a feeling of
an intimate connection. Right. I mean, if you're
just there to look at some vag, you know jesus
christ wow it's there who hurt you can we can
we make a list of words i want a list of words
that we are never allowed to say and i think
jeff saying vag is one of them well you weren't
much better would you say vaginal canal or whatever
you said cavity cavity i wasn't much better so
no v words from now on or c words either So who
is this woman? Is she some porn star that we're
seeing? This is the girl. That's the one. Her
name is Bonnie Blue. She's with an Andrew Tate
guy. Yeah. Andrew Tate is married with children.
Is he? Yes. Well, I mean, I know he has children.
I thought he was married. I don't know. I don't
think so. I don't think so. He just went to prison
in Romania or somewhere. Yeah. Is this an old
picture or something? No, this is new. They just
did an interview. Because I thought he literally
is incarcerated in Romania. He's under house
arrest or something. He got out six months ago.
Oh. So Andrew Tate is not married, according
to news. Yeah, I wouldn't think his wife would
be okay with that. Yeah, but he does have kids,
and I thought they had some sort of relationship.
I mean, if she's made a ton of money, why isn't
she already done? I can understand if a woman
is willing to put herself through all sorts of
degrading, humiliating things and degrade her
body and all that kind of stuff and then make
her $20 million and walk away and disappear.
I saw a comparison. But she's still doing it.
There's another OnlyFans girl out there who had
a picture out there who said had had her earnings
compared to what she did, she goes. I made $75
million last year and I'm still a virgin. You
slept with a thousand guys in an hour and you
only made whatever. Damn. Good Lord. Yeah. Hell,
there are people that just show their feet. That's
what she's doing. Feet in Jell -O and feet in
beans. Feet in weird shit. And people are like,
that's a fetish. Your browser history must be
insane. So Andrew Tate is kind of like Elon Musk.
Your search history must be insane. Mine? Yeah.
No. Feet in Jell -O. No. We were talking about
this. Butt molds. We were talking about this
when I was with my coworkers. And they were just
sharing whatever they know about OnlyFans. And
it's everything. It's literally everything. It
is. I don't know how much of it is porn -related.
There's more than just that. Hold on. A lot of
it's not porn. Most of the people at your office
have OnlyFans connections? What kind of? No,
no. Except that we were talking about OnlyFans,
and everybody had something different to bring
to the conversation. Oh, so this is a normal
conversation at your work. Of course. Yeah. So
you know one of them probably had OnlyFans, but
was acting like they did. Which was me? No. I
don't know. It's just like when you're on Reddit.
I'll read these posts. They're like, all these
horrible drivers out there. They're doing this.
I'm like, so you're telling me the 80 people
in this thread are the perfect drivers in this
world. No, we're all shit drivers. Not one of
them. Right. So you have 80 people talk about,
oh, I've heard about this. I've heard. No, someone
here has OnlyFans. That's funny. You know what
I mean? Yeah. Someone does. Yeah. But I know
what you mean. I would dare download that. OnlyFans?
I wouldn't download any of that crap. I would
be mortified if my wife ever, even if I were
fucking around, not fucking around like cheating
or something, if I were just wanting to see what
it is, what is this about? Just tell us, go,
I'm researching for the thing. I have to look
at OnlyFans. Yeah, this is a podcast research.
I wouldn't even do that. Have her do it. Just
go, can you resource this for me? I'll sit behind
you. Naked. I'll be naked behind you. Don't be
uncomfortable either. Who's that Peter Griffin
actor behind you? So while I entertain as children
with multiple women. Just like Elon Musk. Interesting.
Interesting. Yeah, so OnlyFans, you know. Yeah,
not a good thing. Well, any of them, really.
Well, it kind of started with Pornhub. Well,
it started with the internet for one thing. That's
what made porn so accessible. It was like Facebook.
MySpace. And then I think they took MySpace and
put it on steroids with Mark Zuckerberg introduced
the Facebook. We're coming up with a logarithm
to grade chicks. Howard started it. Yeah. What
was it called? The Social Network? Oh, yeah.
Yeah, that kind of goes into the background a
little bit. And he debunks a lot of it, but the
story is that he was just basically making a
website for his buddies to rate the chicks that
were at Harvard. And look at him now. Yeah. Unbelievable.
Yeah. Well, you know, that's what it takes. That's
how it happens. That's what we cliché -ly say
now. Is that a word? Cliché -ly? Cliché -ly.
It's what we say now, like the hawk to a moment.
You know? Yeah. Oh, he had a big one. I'll tell
you what. I think Facebook, if they don't, they're
trying to shift, but Facebook is a old people
app now. Oh, really? What have people moved on
to? Young folks do not use Facebook. When I say
young, probably 30s and below. It's all for folks
our age who want to stay in touch with their
kids and their high school mates. Yep. The young
people don't. I know my sister's daughters. don't
use it. She's 30 and 28, right? They even said
that Facebook's for old people. Are they Instagram?
Not Spotify. They'll do Snapchat. They'll do
Instagram. Those things, but Facebook is off
-limits because that's where the parents go and
you don't want to be associated with it. Parents
and parents porn. At some point, Facebook is
going to peter out, like I said, unless they,
now granted, they own Instagram as well, unless
they shift, and they're trying to with this whole
meta thing. Yeah, they have to reinvent themselves.
Correct. It's kind of like bars. You know what
I mean? Bars are constantly changing their name
and seeing fresh because it gets stale. It's
the same concept. They're on the TikToks. Yeah,
TikTok, the Twitches. They're not on the, yeah,
the Facebook is just olds like us. dopamine effect
uh with the what do they call it death the death
scroll doom scroll right the doom scroll is that
what it's called that's a thing man and you know
i suffer from that and you know i it's difficult
it's difficult i Because every week my phone
comes up with a report. Hey, you're a loser.
You spent this much time doing this. I was like,
oh, shit, man. Damn. It says that to you? You're
a loser? Well, I mean, I'm paraphrasing a little
bit. Oh, okay. But it says you spent this much
time on Instagram and stuff. I get it. It's like,
damn. Sometimes on the couch I'm watching the
Gutfeld show or something, and I picked up my
phone and just whatever. And it's like as soon
as you set your phone down, I swear to God, the
phone makes a noise. Ding. and it's like oh I
gotta look at it and nobody texted me nobody
did anything but my phone made a noise it was
an inexplicable alert noise yeah it just made
so I pick it up and all of a sudden I'm on the
doom whatever the thing is you know what there
are moments like if you have like a four hour
layover in an airport that's perfect I read my
book. No, you read your book. Well, I get it.
I'm just saying, if you want to eat up a chunk
of time, and when I do that, I don't do it very
often, but when I do, I'm laughing my ass off
at some animal thing. Or you're like, wow, that's
wholly offensive kind of a thing. It doesn't
matter. I'm laughing. I'm laughing a lot. It's
usually because my other friends from Cincinnati
send me something. I was like, oh, my God. That's
terrible. I send it to you guys. I'm doing the
scroll where I don't know who any of them are.
Well, that's an algorithm, right? So if you start
lingering on a certain kind, it's going to go,
oh, you like those kind of things. Oh, I'm going
to show you more boobs. I'm going to show you
more horse dick or whatever you're looking at,
right? Mine are a lot of animals freaking out,
doing funny things. Did you just say horse dick?
Well, he said animals. Wow. Doing freaky things.
I don't think horse dick is one of the things
in my feed, but yeah. So, you ever seen that
old classic video of some dude being taken by
a horse? No, no. Really? You say that? You say
that was a classic video? I don't know. I mean,
there's probably a lot of them, but there's one
that was like, kind of like Two Chicks, One Cupper.
Is that what it's called? Do you remember that
time? That time where all those videos were like,
oh my God, this is the latest craze. There was
one out there with some dude. Craze? Really?
Was it? No. Maybe I don't know. Some dude. I'll
tell you what, Mark ruined my life. I never saw
that one. Mark Lavenka. Yes! Mark Lavenka. Here,
come here, Sean. And I was like, what? He was
like, I want you to look at this. I was like,
what? What am I looking at? And then all of a
sudden, you know, I see this schooner cup, and
I'm like, oh, that's interesting. What is that
for? And then all of a sudden, there was a soft
serve. filling the schooner. And then I realized
where it was coming from. Two girls in a cup?
Oh, you really nailed that. That rattled right
off. Sean talked about it many times. It's in
his archive. I didn't realize it was a schooner.
He knew the cup type. It was a schooner. Honestly,
there are things you can't unsee. And Mark sent
me one that I can never unsee. And, yes, it had
to do with some sort of defecation. But, anyway,
the point is we don't need to be seeing that
shit, man. It's not good for us. Some people
get into that. It really is not good for us.
Some people get into that, though. It's a fetish,
and I don't understand it, but there are some
really, really strange fetishes out there. Yeah,
there are. And that's one of them where you get
shit on. And I say we don't get into those. I
say we move on to a new topic. Let's talk about
something. That's a top ten list. I see one.
No. Top ten fetishes. Weirdest fetishes. And
here's the video proof. Here we go. Yeah, no.
Number one backyard store, underground cellar
device is Iron Maiden for Jeff. Yes, Iron Maiden.
No, let's not do that. You know, I have an unbelievable
story I want to share. Unbelievable? Yes. The
sole survivor of that Air India plane crash.
That is crazy. What is the deal with that? Jeff,
you were out of town. I was out. I saw footage
of the crash. It looks like it just lost power.
Yes. And just dropped onto this apartment complex.
Yeah. And was the survivor on the plane or in
the apartment? On the plane. On the plane. Like
seat row 11 or something. Yes. Seat 11A. Yeah.
I saw something where some guy comes stumbling
out. Yeah. Is that him right there? Yes. That's
him, yeah. And people don't even realize he's
from the wreckage. And he doesn't, it's like
he's just kind of stumbling around. He doesn't
really know. Show that again. There's a video
of him stumbling out? Yeah, coming out of the
wreckage. He had to have gotten thrown or something.
He said he walked out. His story is the plane
crashed. Split in half. He was able to, and he
said there were bodies everywhere, and he was
able to unbuckle his seat and stand up and walk
out of the wreckage. And he said there were other
people that were trapped. Alive still? Yeah,
alive and trapped. And I guess the flame engulfed
the whole thing like a fireball. Right. And he
was able to kind of miss the whole thing and
walk out. It was a freshly launched plane, so
it was full of fuel. Full of fuel. Are they,
Boeing's having a hard time these last five years
or so. Dude, what is up with Boeing right now,
man? Well, we don't know what the cause of the
failure is. No, we don't. But look, there's the
guy. He's walking out. He's got a white T -shirt.
He's like, hey, what's going on? He's like, bitch,
give me a beer. That's exactly what he looks
like. He's like, fuck that shit. No, I don't
think he was. I think you might be misreading
this a little bit, Jeff. No, but imagine being,
what, 271 people died? I bet he has a lot of
mental challenges going forward. Already. That
survivor guilt. Yes. Already in the hospital
bed, he was like, I don't understand. 242. I
don't understand why I'm here. I don't understand.
Because that survivor guilt's real. It's real.
Yeah. I mean, how would you want to be the one
person out of the whole plane that survives?
Basically unscathed. Right. I was watching. It's
one of our topics up there. Yeah, look at this.
It just drops. Right. And I saw some footage
online where nothing on the plane worked. And
you saw pictures of them trying to use the TV
or the phone or whatever. And none of it worked.
I don't know if that was the same or someone
stitched some fucking stupid video to it. I know.
But apparently, it sounds like it just lost power.
Yeah. I don't know if that's true. The pilot
was calling Mayday. He said, I have no engines
and no lift. That's what he was screaming into
the Mayday, Mayday, Mayday. I got no lift. I
got no lift. And they say the engines just died.
Right. Unheard of on an aircraft because there's
redundancy after redundancy after redundancy.
What is going on with Boeing? Makes you wonder.
I don't know. What's going on with Boeing? I
don't know. I don't know. All right, so who are
Boeing competitors? You think it's Airbus? Nefarious?
No, Airbus is struggling too. I don't think it's
Nefarious. Not to the... level i think boeing
is well i mean do you think it's a wear and tear
issue do you think it's a lack of i think it's
well you need to watch the boeing documentary
on netflix i think it's you know and i've read
you don't think they fixed it after that oh i
think they fixed it but i think what's happened
is i think the culture at boeing again this is
from completely outside this is what i've read
uh some interviews by folks that work there that
the atmosphere at boeing has chased away the
best of the best engineers. Because of McDonnell
Douglas. Right. The leadership. Just the atmosphere,
how they're, you know, we've got to save money.
Well, you make this much money, let's bring in
someone else who's younger. So I'm not saying
that the engineers that they're coming in are
not good. They're just not as good. You think
they're DEI -ers? I don't know. I don't know.
But that's kind of the... Is Boeing one of those
companies that subscribes to that policy? It's
out of Seattle. Not anymore, but... I doubt they
do anymore, but actually, I have no idea. They're
based in Seattle. But Boeing is never going to
go away. I mean, they make... Yeah, they still
have massive contracts with the government. Not
current ones for the new planes or products,
but they have old ones to maintain them. They
have a responsibility. Well, they make Air Force
One, right? So that'll be ready in 2035. It takes
15 years to build that thing. Well, they borrowed
the Dubai one. I don't know. Is that still going
to happen? I don't know. Was it Dubai? Was it
Dubai? No, it was Qatar, Qatar. Oh, that's right.
But, you know, Boeing. Is it going to take 15
years to build that fucking thing? Yeah, so it's
not going to be right until 2035. That's why
Qatar is like, here, use our plane and tell them.
Yeah, Trump was really frustrated that it was
taking them that long. That is an amazingly long
time. Yes. Yeah, because they have air conditioning
in the seats. No. It's probably inefficiencies.
I'm sure Air Force One is much more complicated
than any of the other planes. They have built
-in CPAP in every seat. Full mask. I have no
idea. Full mask. To me, it seems kind of like
borrow hours. What the hell? They have an Air
Force One because Air Force One has to be. souped
up with some massive anti -missile, anti -everything.
Yeah, it has what do you call the things that
shoot out flares? Yeah, they're called shafts.
Shafts. For idiots. Shave. Not shave. Shave.
Yeah, they have those things that pop out. To
make a missile miss the plane. Whatever they
are. But my point is They have one of those already
ready? Why would they need something like that?
Is that like, fuck it, we're going to make one?
We're going to make a mock -up Air Force One?
No, they're making the next iteration of Air
Force One, right? No, you're asking about why
this... Yeah, they're like, hey, use ours for
now. Are you saying that one's all ready to go?
That's what I said. That's what I thought, too.
I was like, there's no way it's up to spec. No,
it's just a luxury liner that they said, here,
you can use this. Yeah, but it's got to have,
like you said, all the shavings and the shaffings.
It doesn't. Whatever. I'm not saying that it
would be. I don't know. I don't know what the
whole thing was. But from what I heard is it
wasn't given to Trump. It was given to the government
of the United States. Of course, yeah. Yeah,
because the Libs were like, well, this is a gift.
You can't have a gift. You know, they were freaking
out. Yeah, well, I'm not keeping the plane when
I leave. Right. Now, that whole thing was stupid.
Just another thing for them to argue about. Frankly,
it's embarrassing. Right down to this last freaking
riot, the escapades with the no kings thing.
This whole thing is ridiculous. Well, did you
guys watch the parade, the 250th anniversary?
I watched some of it. The military program. I
watched some of it, and it was fascinating. Was
it? Oh, I didn't watch all of it. I watched probably
a half hour of it, but you had the big -ass Bradleys
going down there, the tanks. The M1 tanks. Oh,
the M1, A1, whatever variation. Did they have
any Shermans from World War II? Those blew up.
No, they had old shit too, right? They had a
couple of Panzer divisions. Wow, which makes
no sense at all. No, I don't know. The only ones
I saw were the new ones. But I know that they
had old shit, too. They had soldiers in World
War I uniforms. Correct. Soldiers in World War
II uniforms. Can you imagine idiot rioters getting
in front of those things? Yeah, that wouldn't
go well. Yeah, some people are going, they're
going to tear up the road. No. Okay, why are
they goat boy? I didn't understand that at all.
That's more of a jackass. But I think this is
a huge flex, for one thing, to other countries.
First Calvary. You think so? Look at our shit.
And, you know, they were pulling, you know, when
you see like a Bradley or something like that
pulling like the big howitzers or the big gun
on the trailer. Well, they were pulling a trailer,
but it had no gun on it. It had something else
on there. I have no idea what it was. It was
an EMP. Yeah, I have no idea what it was, and
it went by too fast for me because I asked the
guy. I was like, what is that? Oh, shit. Is that
part of the parade? Global LiDAR. Damn, that
looks badass. And they had the Golden Knights.
I need to go back and watch that. Look at those.
Those are some awesome. Well, the guns. Look
at that. That's pretty cool. That looks like
a robot. My neighbor has one of those, actually.
That would look like a drone -ish. Well, look,
it's 250 years of our army. Yes. You know, and
it needs to be celebrated. And, you know, they're
throwing stones at the whole gesture. Well, I
also heard that. I heard that they're like, well,
this is true. They hate Trump. That's why. But
when was this planned? I heard it was planned.
Two years ago. So this is not Trump. This is
not Trump. No. That's what's so dumb about this
whole thing. They're so absolutely Trump derangement
syndrome that they just can't think. clearly
or rationally about anything. Nope. I'm amazed
how they're able to keep Trump alive. No kidding.
Well, I heard that Netanyahu came out and said,
yeah, he was on the assassinate hit from Iran.
Apparently there were two attempts from Iran
on Trump during the election. During the election.
In addition to what we know about. Meaning it
was When I say attempts, it was foiled without,
I guess, us knowing about it. I mean, what the
hell? How did we not know that they were two
foiled attempts? Well, there's layers and layers
and layers of security, so it's probably some
of the outer stuff, and they were... Sure. I
don't know. I don't know. I haven't heard that.
I heard that. Actually, I did hear that. I heard
that yesterday. I've heard that they had some
hits on him, but I just didn't... Not actual
ones, but they had some plans on it. Yeah. Dude,
those tanks are badass, man. Yeah, well, you
know what? This reminds me, when I grew up as
a military brat, you know, they would have annual
pride, not pride, annual. Oh, there we go. Well,
you knew that about you. Yes. And you were one
of the little kids. They had the Armed Forces
Day. And when you lived over in Germany, like
we did, they... They went all out. They took
all the toys out of the toy box, and they set
them up there. The parents, the military soldiers
and their families would go out there. They had
a super large picnic. Back then, they would have
a helicopter, and it was a Huey. It'd pick you
up from one side of the place, and it'd drive
you about a mile away and drop you down. He took
a Jeep all the way back. It was fun. You can't
get away with that shit nowadays, but back then
you could. And big C -130s. I remember in El
Paso when we stayed there in the mid -80s, they
had something called the Amigo Airshow at Biggs
Army Airfield. And they had the same thing, just
a plethora of amazing aircrafts. Tanks and Jeeps
and the Tomahawk missiles setups, the Patriot
missiles, everything that you could fathom was
there, sitting out there for you to take a look
at. And I remember the Harrier that came in and
flew. Harriers. Oh, man. Harriers. Vertical takeoff.
Are you sure it was a Harrier? That's a British
plane. Yeah, it was one of those vertical styles.
So we have a Harrier. The U .S. has those. Yeah.
Well, the Harrier is British, though. I know,
but we have a fleet of them. Well, we do now.
Not of Harriers, but other planes that do it.
We had a plane that did that, and I understood
it to be called a Harrier back then. I guess
we could have bought some Harriers. I actually
think that's the case. I think the F -35 does
it now. When they came in, the Harrier would,
first of all, take off real fast. It would go
straight up and boom. It would come back, and
then it was not that one. No, that takes off
like that. Hold on, I'm looking at that. Is that
a hurricane coming in? We're looking at a...
And a little plane flash away. Yeah. We're like
a little... See, there it goes. That's a small
life. But when we were at the Amigo Air Show,
we're sitting in the front, and this Harrier
comes in, and it comes back down after doing
all kinds of crazy shit, and it bows down. And
you're looking at this thing, and you can see
the fuel dripping out of the thing. That's how
much fuel it takes. Oh, yeah. It's amazing. And
the SR -71, and just those types of high -speed
surveillance planes. Amazing. That stuff is awesome
to see. Just military stuff in general. These
Ospreys are cool. Oh, yeah. The VTOL helicopter
-looking things. I was up in Colorado visiting
my wife's cousin and her husband. And he mentioned
something. Mr. Producer, you may be able to help
define this. Because we were watching this, the
thing. We were talking about tanks. He goes,
I think tanks may be out of obsolete as a type
of wars we're fighting. But also, he goes, look
what's happening over there in Ukraine and Russia.
He goes, but they have these weapons. It's a
huge tungsten rod that they shoot. at these tanks,
and it busts through, and as it goes through,
this thing, this tungsten rod, heats up, and
it vaporizes everything inside the tank. God.
So you've got this molten, vaporized tungsten
that's burst through. And you're a sitting duck.
Yeah, and everything inside, yeah. Well, it ends
quickly. Yeah, so you're vaporized, basically.
But they've got anti... They've got weapons against
that too. I mean, they've got these things that
will sit on the side of a tank and literally
they can detect stuff like that coming in. It'll
spritz these little aluminum phosphors. I don't
even know what they are. I'm making that up.
Out. That covers like 10 ,000 square feet. Out
and all around them. Imagine if we spent the
money. The money we spend on trying to figure
out how to kill people. Imagine how if we spent
that same amount of money trying to save people
or help people. Wouldn't that be amazing? But
you can't. You have to anticipate the evils in
the world. You do. And unfortunately, there's
a lot of them and all types of flavors. It's
not just from what I anticipate the Muslim population.
It's even us. It's within. It's everywhere. It's
all over the freaking planet in every shade and
every color. There's threats in, like you said,
every shade and every color. It's greed. It's
greed. It's religion. Greed is a big... proponent
but is a big source of why people want to kill
people all the time but yeah hillary clinton
greed yeah she wanted power too i guess that's
part of greed as well right oh she was big on
power so jill biden jill i don't mean to take
a left turn here but i've been staring at this
word on the board for so long melangean I'm tired
of looking at it without knowing what the hell
it is. Jeff, what is a Melungeon? I have never
heard this word before until the other day. And
again, we were up in Colorado. And she did a
DNA test to figure out, because her daughter
had a senior in her high school, or maybe it
was her college, I don't know, project. So her
and her daughter did this. And her husband came
from here, and she goes, I found out that, have
you ever heard the word Melungeon? I was like,
I've never heard that. No. She goes, apparently
I'm a Melungeon. And what it is, is from the
Appalachia, from Appalachia specifically, that
it is a mix of many heritages that, and a lot
of it is sub -Saharan Africa. What? From the
Appalachians. From the Appalachians. So she's
3 % sub -Saharan Africa. Like, that's where the
black will come from. Like, Nigeria. Yeah, yeah,
yeah. Like, Nigeria specifically. She's as white
as you and I. Absolutely. And if you Google,
pull up here, go to Grakapok, go put in there,
go, famous Melungeons. Okay. You'll be surprised
who these people are. Yeah, who even knows that
they are a Melungeon? Well, it's a trifecta.
European, African, and Native Americans. Wow.
Okay. Here we go. Gronk? Grok? What is it? Grok
or grunk? Grok. Grok. Right. So to a mixed race
group of Appalachia with European, African, and
Native American. Abraham Lincoln. Oh, wow. Elvis
Presley. Ava Gardner. I don't know who Bill Monroe
is. Heather Locklear. Heather Locklear. Tom Hanks.
Natasha Mullins. Fiona Apple. Steve Martin. Another
one I saw was Dolly Parton. I would think that
there are a lot of people like that. I was going
to say, is it possible any of us could be that
if we did our 23andMe and we find out where...
I mean, how much of each would you have to have?
Well, she's 3%. I was like, so are you... Because
she's looking for a job. 3 % what? Black. African.
So she's going to use that as... She goes, I
have. She goes, I put in. Oh, my God. She goes,
I put in. Does that qualify? What? how much qualifies.
Do you have to prove it? I don't know. Do you
have to prove it with the DNA test? Elizabeth
Warren wants .1, you know, because at the end
of the day, we're all mutts. Well, I know, but
I think what's interesting is... I had never
heard of this term before. I had never heard
of that either. Me neither. And usually when
you hear that you're a percentage, good lord.
Yeah, hold on. Let's take a pause here. Something
happened to Sean. I'm going to have to accentuate
that. I think he started to talk after taking
a big swig, and he was like... Well, when you're
drinking 135 proof stuff. You can't drink it
like a normal drink. You have to be. I took a
little bit too big of a pull and it went in the
wrong hole. Anyway. Where were you putting the
bottle? I found this very interesting as far
as the term for one thing. Yeah. It's a very
unique term. And the fact that the percentage
was higher than I thought as far as the Nigerian
in her. Yeah. That's fascinating. But you're
right. We're mutts. We're all mutts. Yeah, I'm
kind of, you know. I don't think we're all are
because her husband was from Norway. That was
it. Really? Yeah, but their kids now are mutts.
Like that. It was that pure. That pure. His whole
side was Norway and Scandinavia. Yeah, but now
their kids are mutts. Well, her kid is. Well,
that's what I'm saying. So it only takes one
generation to make that happen. Well, no, but
Paul said everybody are mutts. That's not direct.
True. I think that's too general. It is general.
I think people in America mostly are. People
in Europe, maybe they've been there for generations
and generations. But, you know, here we're...
That's a great question. I have no idea what
percentage... I mean, okay, first off, what would
you consider pure? Somebody that's 80 plus percent
of something, a certain type? I don't know. I
don't know either. You know, actually... Elizabeth
Warren said she was one one thousandth. There
is a way to clarify this. And we are all that,
apparently. There is a way to clarify this. And
this brings up... I have a friend. In fact, we
had him on the podcast. His name's Taylor. Yes,
I remember him. So Taylor is part Indian, native
Indian. And there is a certain percentage of
Native Indian that you have to be in order to
qualify for some of the benefits that Native
Americans get. Like free drinks on Southwest
Airlines? Maybe. No. For medical care, free medical.
Essentially, there's a whole thing that their
community offers to them. Land, I don't even
know. Free membership, I don't know. Did you
know that back in the 70s, there was a program
by the U .S. government to sterilize the Indian
population? Good Lord. What a nightmare. Back
in the 70s, there was... Was it alcohol? No,
it was... If a lady goes in to give birth to
a doctor, they would basically... Make it the
last pregnancy she had. Make it the last one
she ever had. God, that's awful. That was in
the 70s. That is a form of genocide. That's what
it was called. They were trying to eradicate...
That is disgusting. US government. Thanks for
sharing that, Joe. You know, I'm proud of being
an American, but I am... Play the music, Chuck.
I mean, look, we do a lot of fucked up shit.
We do. We have a dark history in a lot of different
places. All countries have a dark history, so
I don't want to just say we do. They all have
a dark history, but look, man, we have fucked...
around everywhere on this planet. That's true.
You and I didn't know. Our parents didn't know.
We have no idea what the government is doing.
I don't want to say shadow government, but they've
got stuff going on. People poking the bear all
over the planet. And we've made mistakes. Everybody's
made mistakes. It's bigger than mistakes, man.
But we strive to do better, right? We strive
to do better. What is it saying there? It was
rooted in eugenics. God. Yeah. It says a quarter
to half of Native American women of childbearing
age were sterilized between 70 and 76 with some
sort of setting up to 70 ,000 women affected.
That's just gross. Now, it does say often without
their full or informed consent. Oh, that's sad.
Yep. Yep. Yeah, so I never knew that. That is
really gross. That's something new I learned,
and that's not taught in the history books. No,
it isn't. I also learned that when I was up in
Wyoming that there was a German POW camp up there.
Were you aware of that? Where? In Wyoming. There's
one in Texas. And there's one down here in Farmersville,
I think. German and Japanese. I thought there
was two out there. Well, Japanese are internment
camps. These were POW camps where we boated.
folks over here that we captured over there.
Were those the scientists that we allowed over
there? They were just German soldiers that were
caught. That's weird. Why would we spend the
money to do that? I want to say there was one
in the hill country, too, in like Fredericksburg
or somewhere. Yeah, they've been around here,
but there's one up there, and it still exists.
Obviously not as a POW camp, but people live
there now. Were they ever released? They opened
up a bunch of German restaurants? They said that
Germans are... Big up there as far as populous
as Wyoming is. Crazy. I didn't know. I never
knew that. I didn't know that either. I've never
heard of that. I had no idea they had. You said
internment camps. I knew about that. These were
POW camps. I know. This is totally different.
Yeah. Right. And even internment camps was not
good. Yeah. These were Americans that they were,
you know, putting in camps. Now, they weren't
like. It's not their fault. Pearl Harbor happened.
I was like, what the hell? They're Japanese -Americans.
They didn't ask for that. I've owned this laundry
shop for 20 years. What the hell? No, that was
jacked up. Yeah. We made mistakes. Yeah, they
put them out there, and what they told me is
they put it out here because it was in the mountains.
They were like, you can't escape because there's
nothing around. Right. Especially way back in
the 40s. You'd get trampled by moose. Right.
Yes, and mountain lions. You'd freeze to death.
All that, too. I didn't think about that. They
also have wolves up there, triple wolves. Direwolves.
Yeah, direwolves. They have hellhounds. Cerebus.
Three -headed dog. Wow. How did we get on this
one? How did we do this? How did we do what we
do? What is the magic behind this podcast? It's
like the three -headed dog from Harry Potter.
Hades. No. Went to sleep when you blew the...
Is it not Hades? Yeah, it is Hades. He guards
the city... Look at me. The river sticks. River
Styx. River Styx. Don't pay the ferryman. Don't
even fix a price. Name that band. Go. It's a
guy who sang Lady in Red. That's not... Krista
Berg. Krista Berg. Is that a band? I was trying
to get him to... He had a band, did he not? He
was an artist with a band. No, it was just him
and a keyboard. Okay, fine. He was a solo artist.
He was one of those with the... Damn it, man.
With the drum and the tambourine. And the triangle.
It was an Oompa Loompa. A tuba. Wow. Okay, wheels
off. All right, what else do we have? Stanley
Cup Finals. Okay, I was going to bring up the
Ocean Gate. No, no, no, let's do that. What was
going on with that? Okay, so you said it's a
new documentary. Oh, yeah, it's a new documentary.
It just came out on Netflix. Again, highly recommend
it. It's about the Titan that imploded. That
was so jacked up. Right. Did they go into the
details of how he just blew past every safety
check? Yes. Ugh, awful. And this guy seems like
a narcissistic egomaniac. Stockton Rush guy.
He killed a billionaire and his son. He killed
himself, too. He killed that, too. And they go
into it and all of the things that you're supposed
to do when you're building a submarine, you're
supposed to get these classed by inspection.
The government or these people, they give different
classes to these submarines and they inspect
it. Well, he's like, we're not doing that. We're
going to fly under the radar. Oh, my God. Basically,
Constructed out of his garage. What an idiot.
No, no, no. It wasn't that bad. No, he had. It
was a company. It was a college. And there, I
can't remember who it was. Stanford or something
like that. I'd be wrong on that. But they had
these scientists, these college physicists and
all this, develop the design. Right. And he built
his out of carbon fiber. Yes. And that was the
problem. No one had ever done this. So he's like,
I'm doing this. I know I'm right. This is going
to work. He used a PlayStation remote. Yeah,
it is a PlayStation. That's crazy. And there's
footage of it. They're going down. And they have.
No, not like that. They're going down. And it's
cracking and popping. And what this is, it's
the carbon fiber. falling apart breaking yeah
and the first time they went down there they're
testing this thing and they decide okay one of
the mechanisms we're going to use to try to monitor
the safety of this look about microphones everywhere
so we can record how many pops and cracks we're
doing and and obviously it was not with people
at first no it always had people During the testing.
Right. So I wrote down. Oh, that's neat. So the
first iteration, the first chassis or submarine
or whatever like that failed. They took it down
and it got a huge crack in it. But they didn't
die. No, they didn't die that time. So it had
a huge crack in it. And he said, you know, says
Dr. Tooth, his head engineer said, well, there's
a couple of folks at the board that says you
should have known about this. And the engineer
goes. I did know about this. I wrote a paper
up, and I told you about it. So he goes, then
he looked at me, he goes, well, one of us is
going to have to go, and it's not going to be
me. Wow. So he fired the guy. What do you mean?
Oh, he fired the guy that was shitting on his
design. Yeah, so basically he fired everyone
who said, this is not safe. Unbelievable. He
fired everybody, and you'll see his little employment.
tree and everything people getting let go and
then they just start kind of disappearing because
they're like yeah i quit because i'm not going
to be a part of this or i got fired or whatever
and this was absolutely inevitable and yes so
finally they after that crack they could death
wish they couldn't fix it they couldn't fix it
so he fired us all engineering team essentially
brought new ones on and they're they're redoing
the uh the tube and they make a third ratio model.
So it's a third the size, right? And that's what
they took. They put it in this tank and they
pressurize it, right? And they record how many
cracks and everything and nothing could get past
3 ,000 meters. And the Titanic is below 4 ,000
meters. Right. So he's like, we're so close.
Let's just get it done. Well, and the engineer
was asked in their hearing because they have
meetings from the hearings of the investigation.
They go, did any Every model passed. They're
like, no, every single model failed. That's ridiculous.
That is ridiculous. Nothing got past 3 ,000 meters.
And Stockton did it anyway. Because they were
so close. Ignored anyone because he's right.
Basically, that's what it got out of it. He was
convinced that it would hold. Yes. He goes, I'm
right. He goes, I'm not going to kill myself.
I'm not going to kill anyone because I'm smart
and I know what I'm doing, basically. And he
did. And he did it. You talked about earlier
the survivor complex, right? Yeah. Guilt. And
there was a guy who went out there the day before
who went, or maybe it was the trip before, who
was going to go down. Yeah. But the weather was
too hard. He would have died. Right. So he went
out, and they actually got in it, and they were
going to go down in another section just to take
it down because they go out for nine days. It's
a nine -day trip. To get all the way down there.
To get out there, and then you go down, then
you come up, and then it's a nine -day process.
Nine days? Damn. For each trip. It's not all
the way down, but the boat getting out there
and everything. I got you. I got you. So he was
coming back, and they're like, well, we're going
to go down here. So they get in there, and they
go under the water. And this guy's a YouTuber,
so he's videoing in there. And he goes, I remember
my feet being ice cold and wet. and he showed
some video there he goes there was there was
droplets and water inside oh good the the sub
he goes but we didn't go we were under the water
maybe i don't know 20 feet or something like
that he goes but we couldn't get communication
working So they scrapped it, and we came back
up. And the next day or the next trip out there
is when it imploded. So he was having a hard
time reconciling that. He should be dead. Yeah,
he was having a hard time reconciling that. So
it's fascinating. They make this CEO out to be
a complete buffoon. Yeah, just a shithead. What
a dickhead. Seriously. Yeah, that's the first
engineer, that guy there. Unbelievable. And,
you know, they had a launch guy. He was a longtime
submariner, and he hired him. And Stockton says,
I'm going to be the pilot. This guy was supposed
to be the pilot on all the things. He goes, the
very first time they went down, and the guy's
like, the last minute goes, I'm going to be the
pilot. You're going to stay topside. So that
guy got saved, too. Well, no. Well, he went down.
This was the very first time they went down.
Oh, I got you. So the guy's like, no. He's like.
I'm at least going to come with you in case something
goes wrong, right? So they go down to the Andrea
Doria, and the Stockton puts them in this horrible
position, like underneath the boat, like the
bow is underneath, over the top of them. And
this guy, this professional from the Navy is
freaking out. He's from Ireland or Scotland or
something like that. And he yells at Stockton
and says, give me the remote. I'm getting us
out of here because. You're doing unsafe. This
is extremely dangerous. Yeah, so that guy was
canned as soon as I got to the top. He goes,
we got to the top. He goes, we never spoke again,
and I was let go. Wow. Yeah, so. Well, and look
what happened. Yeah, he lived. There's the Stockton
guy. And remember when it happened? It's like,
and the military picked up the sound. Yeah. The
boom. They recognized the implosion. Yeah, they
did. But they didn't, they weren't forthcoming
at first. Right. They don't talk too much about
the recovery. Well, in the beginning, they show
some of the recovery and they talk about it for
maybe five, the implosion at the beginning. But
the rest of it is how it got there from the beginning
of Ocean Gate until it imploded. And then the
very end, there's some notes, right? Kind of
a thing that says this is the final trip. And
that was basically it. And they showed a graphical
representation of like a computer simulation
of it happening and like where the debris went.
Yeah, they didn't have any of that. Oh, dude,
he was awful. But anyway, it's really good. It
just came out. It's about an hour and 45 minutes,
hour and a half maybe. But it's really good.
It's fascinating that this guy is just a megalomaniac
is basically what he is. That's too bad because
he killed a lot of promising people. He killed
five people. Oh, five people? Five people. I
thought there was only a father and a son and
him. It was five people. Who were the other two
people? Well, one was him, I think, the son,
and there was some French guy who went down,
he was the expert in the Titanic. Oh, jeez. So
we lost an important person out of all that.
Yeah. Damn. And, you know, one or two other people.
So they interview some of the family members,
but... It's more about the company itself. Yeah.
Well, yeah. How it got to that point. How it
got there. That's insane. Anyway, I highly recommend
it. The CEO, Hamish Hardin? No. Stockton Rush.
So Hamish Hardin was a British billionaire. Paul
Henry. Okay. Yeah, Paul Henry. That's the French
guy. French diver who's a Titanic expert. And
then the Shah's Zahra Dawood and his son. Yep.
And then Sulman Dawood from Pakistan. Yeah. Yeah.
So those four then stocked him. I'm pretty sure
you're nailing all those names, by the way. Like,
you're spot on. Pardon? Come again. My phonetics
are impeccable. Impeccable. Impeccable. Yeah,
that's a sad, sad story, Ben. But it was riveting
at the time. You remember when it was on the
news? It could have 100. Everybody was waiting
to find out if they were still alive and if they
could recover them. Dude, they were dead instantaneously.
If you watch this, you're thinking there were
100 red flags. Oh, yeah. And he ignored all of
them. All of them. All of them. Wow. How does
that even happen nowadays? Like I said, he's
an egomaniac is what it was. Just a narcissist.
Yep, he was. Wow. I don't even know if we should
bring this up, but I mean, we talk about the
Brittany Gaines and Biles. Yeah. Yeah, that was
the whole transgender thing. A little feud between
Simone Biles and Riley Gaines primarily revolves
around the differing views on the participation
of transgender athletes in women's sports. Well,
yeah. Riley Gaines has been the focal point of
fighting for women's rights in sports, right?
And Biles stepped into it. Yeah, out of the blue,
Biles starts to spout some shit on her Instagram.
Sometimes I wonder if these people have too much
wine. You know what I mean? Well, you don't drunk
text. Yeah, they posted stuff when they were
just kind of frustrated. They had too much to
drink, and they were frustrated, and they just
kind of boom, boom, boom, boom. And that shit
doesn't go well. Did she marry a football player?
Oh, yeah. He was with the Texans, and now he's
with, I think, Chicago. So I wonder how he feels
about her chiming in about this. Well, yeah.
So what happened was she chimed in and called
her a hater, and you're just bad for sports or
bad for this. Jonathan Owens, yeah. And they
turned on her. And basically, you're a man. That's
what she called him. Oh, yeah. She made fun of
her stature. Right. And she's 5 '8". Right. I
mean, she's not big at all. Simone Biles is,
what, four feet? Exactly. She's tiny, and that's
what Riley Gaines said. She was like, I might
be big compared to you, but I'm pretty much a
normal woman. Right. And it was, yeah, it was
ugly. She got her ass handed to her, and I think
her marketing team came up with her apologies.
Did you read it? No. It was a very marketing
team. lawyer -esque type of... Yeah, she pulled
in her PR team. Oh, yeah. Yeah, PR team. That's
what I was thinking of. Yeah, she pulled someone
in to write this for her. It was pretty pathetic.
I mean, to go from America's sweetheart, you
know, kind of like Marilee Retton... Well, she's
done. ...type of thing. Well, yeah, she's not...
She's not going to participate in the next Olympics?
No, I don't think so. I don't think so either.
And then some of her teammates started coming
out. Mykyla Skinner started coming out and saying
that, yeah, she had been... bullied for years
by Simone Biles on the team, like her teammates.
Oh, really? Did you hear about this? No. Yeah,
but shit's coming out now that she's, you know,
she's not all that. She's kind of a jerk to her
teammates. Oh, didn't know that. So that's not
helping her either. So anyway, it's a sad thing.
You don't want to see that kind of fall of a
champion, you know what I mean? She's good. I'm
sure it'll blow over. I don't take away her skill.
I'm sure it'll blow over, right? Yeah, it always
blows over. These left -wing... I don't even
know if she's left -wing. No, I don't think she
is. She just needs to go away for a while, and
then it'll be all good. It'll all come back.
Just like Elon. Elon's good now, right? He shit
on Trump, and then... I don't know what that...
That was so weird that he posted that, and by
the way, he's been on the Epstein manifest list,
you know? At first, I was thinking the whole
thing was orchestrated, right? Because Elon was
so tight with Trump that the left turned on Elon,
We're burning down his Teslas, attacking his
dealerships. And he was like, dude, I need some
separation from you because they're hating on
me so much. Let's create a little spat, right,
to where I'm not so evil to the left anymore.
But then I thought, dude, for him to throw out
the Epstein thing, that kind of crossed the line
of what their little spat could be to me. I don't
know. But I thought the whole thing was engineered,
to be honest. Could be. I don't know. Because
Trump never really got too upset about it. No,
he didn't. No, but the thing is, and probably
that was by design as well, but I don't know.
It could have been orchestrated. He could have
very well known it is a fact. I mean, I don't
know if it's a fact, but I've talked to people
that say, oh, no, I was talking to somebody this
weekend, a gentleman that was at our, the party
on Friday, or Saturday. Okay. I won't say his
name, but he said, oh, yeah, it's a known fact
that. President Trump was on the manifest of
those planes. I've never heard that. I've never
heard that either. They were acquaintances before
that, and Trump disowned them. Something happened
in Mar -a -Lago. Yeah, he was hitting on a miner
who worked in a massage parlor, and Trump found
out about it and threw his ass out. Here's the
thing. I think I've said this before. Epstein
was... A lot of things to a lot of people. Just
because you went to the island didn't necessarily
mean that you were involved in sexcapades and
sex with minors. He was a connector. If you had
a need, he knew everyone, and he made you talk
to him, and then boom, he made it happen for
you, and he got some money out of it. That was
his shtick from the get -go. Now, if you were
into... You had sex fetishes, and he absolutely
could hook you up on that, too. Does it mean
that every single person that went to his island,
it was a hookup for underage sex? Probably not.
You know what I mean? And that's what makes it
so difficult. I'm not defending Trump. I'm not
defending that he was on the plane and that he
was at the island. What I'm saying is it was
so murky. Everything that Epstein was involved
in was so murky that you don't know. You don't
know who was. in nefarious shit and who wasn't
you know what i mean it's it's not unlike diddy
diddy had parties yeah but not there was like
two sides of that though correct parties correct
and there were people that went to his parties
and if they found out like denzel washington
got into a screaming match with him he's like
what the fuck are you doing in your house right
you know and he got pissed off and left so everybody
who shows up at diddy's party suddenly is now
a a rapist or a freak. So that's the challenge.
This shit is so murky and so, you know. But it
does bring the fact that you're kind of like,
you know, is he guilty? Why would he say that?
Look, why would... Elon, say that. Because he
was angry at him. He was angry and he was immature.
Yes, an immature, petty, little. Immature, immature.
That's the only thing. It's the immature kid
who always gets what he wants. That immature
billionaire. He kind of is. He seems immature
to me. He's brilliant, but that shit he does
and shit he says and he's kind of in the spectrum
a little bit. I don't know. He's even a bit of
that, I think. Yeah, he's just weird. He's weird.
I don't know why he said that shit, but it didn't
go down well. No, I think that was it. I think
it was when Trump goes, we'll just cancel Starlink
and the other contracts for the Falcon. And he
goes, okay, fine. We'll see you on the Epstein
logs. Right. Is that what he said? Yeah, maybe
it got personal like that. I don't know. It got
a little personal, but I think it's bygone. So
maybe it wasn't orchestrated. But, I mean, Elon
Musk was disgruntled because of the bill that
they passed. It was all this. stuff in it. We
called it an abomination of the things. And they're
always an abomination because you have to piece
both sides. And there's lots of pork in it and
a lot of stupid shit. And it's mandatory spending.
It also rolled back the EV subsidies. Yes, correct.
Yeah, but Trump had a plan for that. I know.
But I'm just saying that might have been, they're
speculating that was another thing that Elon
was upset about. It was the only thing he was
upset about. Well, it was a big portion of it
because they yanked that stuff out. And then
Trump was kind of like, dude, I got you. It's
not going to be in this bill. Yeah, let's go
out to your private island. Let's talk about
it. Yeah, you have to do these things in steps.
You just can't all of a sudden whack everything.
No. You have to do it in piecemeal. Speaking
of steps, you know, we do our podcasts. The first
half, we start with a lighter whiskey. And the
second one, we start with a little bit of a bigger
one. Something with a bigger pair of nuts on
this. All right, let's talk about this. Yeah,
that's got to be. All right. So our second half
whiskey of the evening is a Smokey Hill Barrel
Proof. Smokey. Smokey. That just paused right
there. Smokey. I'm pretty sure it's not Smokey.
I know. It's Smokey. But they spell it S -Smoke
-Y -E. So is it Smoke -Y? Smoke -I? Smoke -A?
Can we ask Chet to be true? Smoke -I? Can you
do your thing where it pronounces it correctly?
I don't think that it's going to go for phonetics.
I think you need to go to the website and see
if they elaborate on it. But look, we're drinking
the five -year barrel -proof straight bourbon
whiskey. This one is blue corn. It is masterfully
crafted heirloom. This one is 67 .1 % alcohol,
134 .2 proof. This is a tasty nutsack. Hold on.
Did I read that it's a four green? Okay, the
last site you were just on said four -grain bourbon.
This premium four -grain bourbon delivers unmatched
aroma and taste. Okay. Blue corn, yellow corn,
rye, and malted barley. Brilliant. So yes, it
is technically a four -grain. I've not heard
of a four -grain with two types of corn. This
is the first that I have heard of. I'm sure it's
not the only one out there. Yeah, I've seen this
before, that their releases have been outstanding.
I think this is the second release that came
out. And the first one, they were calling that
it was similar to the George T. Stagg. I never
had it. I don't know. I've never had George T.
Stagg either. We've got Stagg. Matt and I had
that in Houston. Shout out to Matt. Thank you,
sir. Yeah, the George T. Stagg, apparently, that's
worth $100 a shot. Yeah, it's extremely expensive,
and it's very hard to find. And this was $65.
That's very reasonable. Oh, yeah, for what you're
getting on this. It tastes terrific. It really
does. It's dripping with flavor. It's rich. And
you know what? For being 134 .2 proof, the only
thing I feel from it is, Because it doesn't taste
like it's hot. It doesn't taste as hot. Of course,
I've been sipping it, nursing it, but that's
the way you're supposed to be doing this. And
it's super rich, super chocolatey. That's what
I wrote down as well, is chocolate on the flavor.
I've got like, the big thing, remember the Charleston
Chew? I'm tasting, remember the big old chewy
candy bar? I'm tasting like the nougat. And the
Charleston Chew, that's what it kind of tastes
like to me. Yep. Vanilla, of course, it got all
the traditional stuff in there, but it's a little
honey. Yeah, this has got some serious legs on
it, too. This is delicious. It's the first one
I've ever said I can taste the tobacco. When
you guys say tobacco. Correct. Yes, the tobacco
is there. Yeah, that's not as strong for me,
but it's there. But there's some where that's
sometimes all I can taste. Right. But there's
a hint of it here as well, definitely. Yeah,
tobacco, leather in the back. There's so much
in this. It's a leather and tobacco kind of tied
in. When we say rich, this thing has got a ton
in it. It's a long, lingering, not a white pepper.
It's got something. There's something that you
can feel in the back of your throat that's kind
of hot or spicy. Yes. Kind of. Almost like menthol.
You took a drag of a cigarette. It definitely
tickles your vulva. Fingers your palate. That's
pretty deep. That's going down there deep. I
used the right word, didn't I? Incorrect. What
are you, Data from Star Trek? Did you hear that?
Incorrect. Incorrect. He sounded like Data from
Star Trek. That is incorrect here, man. A -hole.
Sit down, Captain Picard. You got a cramp on
your rib? Oh, yeah, that's good. Rich vanilla,
caramelized brown sugar. God. That was funny,
Jeff. Man, I want to say mint, but I don't get
any mint. No way. No mint for me. I don't, but
it's that when you inhale, like I said, it's
kind of that menthol. Yeah, like the air running
over the burn. Yes, over your uvula. Oh, uvula.
Oh, so it's not vulva. No, it's not vulva. How
are you drinking this? Yeah, I'm queeshing it.
No, queefing it. Oh, God. So I'm curious of what
influence the blue corn has. The honey nougat
comes from that. I don't know. I don't know.
But there's a unique flavor in there for me as
well. And I think it's the, I don't know if it's
unique, but it's a little stronger. Maybe it's
that chocolate or that nougat that I'm picking
up. Isn't blue corn supposed to be sweeter, right?
I have no idea. I don't know either. I don't
know. It's supposed to be, no, that's the purple
corn. If it is, if blue corn is sweeter, then
that would. bring out all of the sugar, caramel,
blah, blah, blah. I'm just trying to be smart.
Could be the high -protein content of the blue
corn. Could be. Could be. Shut up, Croc. I don't
think this is available locally. I don't think
we've ever seen this locally. I don't think it's
available locally. It's more in the... This is
a Colorado company, so it may be only available.
Yeah, I was going to say, you didn't say where
you picked it up, or did you? Maybe I missed
it. I picked this up in Glenwood Springs, Colorado.
Okay. I think it's a Colorado company. Now, it's
MGP. Really? Yes. So they picked up a nugget
from MGP. Yeah. And I think they told them how,
you know, this four grain, they probably gave
them some directions maybe. But this is... Yeah,
it's a Colorado. This is not something you can
get down here. Okay, so on this, okay, we're
looking at Wooden Cork is the website we're looking
at, and what is their take on it? What's their
final, what's their conclusion? Do they like
it? I'm curious. I don't know if this is a review,
though. You paid under $60 for this? It was $65.
$65. Oh, my God. Yeah, what's the conclusion?
If I would have known this, I would have ordered
more. Yeah, they had another bottle up there.
No, I think they liked it. They said unmatched
flavor and quality. Wow, yeah. Okay, I think
it's time to rate this. Yeah, this is outstanding.
Now, this is going to go up against some big
boys for us. Yes, 130. It's going to go over
against, it's not a hazmat, but it's close enough
for as far as I'm concerned. Damn, I think anything
over 130 should be called hazmat, in my opinion.
Well, we've got to call it something else. What
is this, 130 what? Four. 134, man. We'll call
it high proof. That will knock you on your ass
if you have no idea what you're doing. Oh, yeah.
Like I said, you pour this and you sip on it
all night. Oh, for sure. Kind of a thing. Kind
of like what we're doing right now. I mean, we're
golfing it, but that's okay. I would rank this
really close to the Garrison Brothers Cowboy.
Yeah, that was tasty as well. That's a strong
statement right there. I'm almost there. Weren't
we in the nines for that? I don't remember. Chuck,
what do we got for the Cowboy? Do you have that
in front of you? I do not. I think we were damn
close to 9 -0. But other garrisons have run in
high 8s and 9s. Yeah. Cowboy was way up there.
Okay. I'll start us off. I'm going with an 8
-3. I'm going to go, I think, 8 -6 on this one.
Yeah. It just lingers. I mean, a long time for
me. It's so wonderful. It's so wonderful. I'm
going to go 8 -8. I mean, I'm enjoying the hell
out of this. I don't think it has the attributes
of the cowboy, but it's damn close. This, to
me, is better than the pinhook two -year, two
-second -year collaboration. Whatever that is,
yeah. It's a four -year, but it's a second collaboration,
I think. But regardless, this is fantastic. 8
-8 all day long. Yeah. You know, I highly recommend
this. The Smokey, well, Smoke is spelled weird.
It's Smokey. I think it's Smoke Eye. Smoke Eye.
Yeah, well, I mean, that would make sense, but
it's... I'm not going to put two E's in there.
Smoke E. Just like Sockeye Salmon. Smoke. Well,
then why'd they need the E at the end? I'm putting
this to rest because this is a ridiculous conversation.
Because it's an eye. It's like smoke in your
eye. Then it's a smock eye. It's like the sockeye
salmon. Or cockeyed. Smoking your eye. Smoking
your eyes. Okay, I don't know why you broke into
song, but that's cool too. Tony Bennett. I thought
that was platters. I don't know. I didn't recognize
it. Here we go. I'm going to chat GBT. Here we
go. I thought you were going to sing. Yeah, smoke
eye hill. Is what it says. No, smoke eye. Typically
would be produced as smoke eye hill for any of
those that are Melungeons. Right. Which is strange.
Why would they bring up Melungeons? So Elvis
Presley. That's why Sean can't do it. Elvis Presley
would call it a smoke eye. Correct. Yeah. Good.
Can't ask him anymore, but you know. We can't.
We can't. We can ask. He was constipated. Anybody
left? Abe Lincoln? So this is uncut. No, no,
no. The Elvis family. But hey, look, the reason
why this match is, in my opinion, close to the
Garrison Brothers Cowboys is because it is also
uncut and unfiltered. Is it? Yes. Is that 100
% sure? Yes. That's what it said on their website.
I didn't see that. That's fantastic. We like
that. We gravitate toward shit floating in our
bourbon. Well, uncut just means it's from the
barrel. It's barrel proof. From the barrel. And
unfiltered means they just... They don't run
it through the coffee thing. That means we pick
out the little pieces of wood. Do they not run
it through? They don't do the charcoal? thing.
They mellow it. Yeah, they don't mellow it. By
the way, that's... I know. We're off the rails.
There's no question. Can we do famous deaths
before we get to the end of this? Let's do two
things. What's the score of the game? Okay. 5
-1 with 2 minutes 42. Is this the last game?
This is game 6 for the Cup. The Cup is in the
house. Well, the Florida Panthers, as I predicted,
are going to smoke the Oilers. Yeah, they would
have smoked us too. So you're saying they're
going to win 4 -2? Yes. Florida is. Yes. Okay.
If they hold on. Oh, shit. Two minutes left.
I think they're going to win this. Two minutes
left for the old lead. I think they're okay.
Fuck the Oilers. They beat the Stars. They beat
the Stars. I'm on board with the Florida Panthers.
Plus they're Canadians. Repeat champions. Exactly.
They're Canadians, for God's sake. They booed
our anthem. All right, let's roll with the deaths.
So the first death we are talking about, Chuck,
talk about it. All right, so it's Mr. Sly Stone
of Sly and the Family Stone. He is from Denton,
Texas. Really? I didn't know that either. So
what was his... There we go. Dance to the music.
Dance to the music. All right, cut it now before
we get killed. Yeah, really, YouTube is like
going off the rails on us. You know during Horse
Neck? Everyday people. Oh, yeah, everyday people.
Everyday people. Yeah, there you go. That's the
Beatles. No. I'm kidding. And then also Brian
Wilson of the Beach Boys. Oh, that's a big hit.
Yeah, that was. They had such an interesting,
unique sound. It was perfect. But weird. They
sound like teenagers, even though they're in
their 80s now. Right. Dude, when I lived in Indonesia,
we had all those pirated tapes, right? Cassette
tapes. I had a Best of the Beach Boys. I like
the Beach Boys. They have a lot of good shit.
I abused it, and I have not listened to the Beach
Boys really since. I need to put all that shit
in my playlist. The Beach Boys are awesome. Well,
Brian Wilson, didn't he have some serious, he
had a mental breakdown, didn't he? Oh, I don't
know. Yeah, he had some mental challenges later.
I don't know when it hit, but he had some mental
problems. That's sad. How old was he? 36. Okay,
I'm pretty sure that wasn't true. 42 to 25. So
it was 83 -ish, depending on what his birthday
is. That's a good life. And man, what a successful
man. Yeah, the Beach Boys hit a home run, man.
Absolutely. They've been running forever. And
you didn't hear a whole lot of drama. Whether
drummer died. I mean, like drama, drama, like,
you know, being a little bitch, complaining about
certain things, jumping on the... The political
bandwagon or anything. Or splitting the band
and then they had this band and that band fighting
over the same songs. Oh, yeah. I hate that shit.
I wonder if there's a history of any drug use,
alcohol abuse, or anything like that in the band.
Of course. All of them. I'm sure there was. All
of them. Is there? I don't know. I think there's
only one original Beach Boy left. It's Mike Love.
He's the last one. Hey, throw up a list of Beach
Boy songs real quick. Real quick. Don't play
them. Just show a list. What is your favorite
Beach Boy song? Let's do this. this? Barbaran.
That's yours? I like that one. Barbaran. You
know what mine is? California Girls? Don't Worry
Baby. That is my favorite Beach Boy song. Kokomo.
I thought you were going to say Kokomo. Kokomo's
good. Sean Cruz. Barbaran. Sean Cruz. Surf and
Safari. Actually, they have a ton. Surfer Girl.
There were so many good ones. I don't have a
favorite one. Don't worry, baby. Hands down.
I know them all. I've sang them all. We have
never done Beach Boys karaoke. Ever. I would
probably say California Girls is probably one
of mine. Oh, Good Vibration. Good Vibration.
I remember Good Vibration mostly because of Sunkissed.
Good Vibration. All right, good one. All right,
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We've also got some stickers and what else we
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you, Mr. Producer, for getting those knocked
out. We're on the launch pad to fame and fortune.
God bless. Hey, look, check us out. If this comes
up, we're going to be at the Horseneck venue.
What is that where we're going to next week,
Chuck? The Star. We're going to the Star next
week. Here in Briscoe. What is it? The Bourbon
Exchange. Is that what it's called? So if they
find this on the internet, it's called Bourbon
Exchange. Subscribe to the Horseneck newsletter.
They'll send you an invite. There you go. God
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It is June 17th. That'll be the following Friday.
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