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I don't think we should talk about that. But

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he loved it going down. Whoa, whoa, whoa. All

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right, that got recorded. Do we need a disclaimer?

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We need a disclaimer, I think. Well, it's the

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second half, obviously, of the Dudes Like Us

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podcast. It's May 27th. Hey, look, thank you

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guys again for sticking around for the second

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half. We know you've got better things to do

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with your life. Really? Eh, not so much. This

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is fantastic. Who doesn't want to be here right

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now? Yes. And thank you for signing your, what

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do you call that, liability forms? We did. Waiver.

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Yeah, waiver. Liability waiver. Thank you for

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signing those. I don't think that works. I don't

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know that I did. Meaning we're not liable for

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anything that happens to you in the second half.

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Darren didn't tell you he's an attorney? I tried.

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Oh. I did not know that. I stayed in a Holiday

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Inn one time, though, and I watched the show.

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The second half of the May 27th podcast. Thank

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you, Mr. Producer, for staying on top of things.

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Mr. Chexter, we got the Horse Neck crew here.

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I'm Sean. I'm Paul. I'm Jeff. I'm Jim. And I'm

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Darren. And we're here to... pumped you up. Would

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you guys mind if I started with something? It's

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to my partner Jim here. Jim, you rarely impress

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me, but I will say that you've got a great radio

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voice. Don't you? This podcast just got weird.

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He's fully erect. Is that a compliment or a compliment?

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I don't know. He was better at the waist out

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there for a while. He was. You guys should talk

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about this. I didn't realize this was going to

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boomerang on me. Really. That was not my intention.

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I told you it was the second half, Darren. This

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is tough. How long does it last? The whole time.

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It's just getting started. The whole time. So

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you guys stuck around during the halftime. During

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the halftime, you... took the liberty of sampling

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our infinity bottle. We were given the liberty.

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I didn't take it. Come on. No, no, no. I would

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have taken it. Our gift to you. God bless. What

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did you think? It is awesome. The infinity bottle

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is, I'm trying to figure out what you do name

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it like we talked earlier out there. Smooth,

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smooth for everything that's in there. We have

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to name it. I'm not under that. I wasn't ready

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for that. I came up with a quick synopsis or

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a quick gesture. What I said was, we have D -L

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-U, right? So I was calling it Delucious. Delucious.

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I don't think that went over. That sounds like

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a ditty party. Oh, really? We're not going to

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go there, are we? I'm not sure I'm ready for

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that. It's a lubricant. Mineral oil and butt

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plugs. Challenge flag. Let's call it something

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else. I can already tell the second half is very

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different than the first half. It can be. It

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can be when you jam down those variety packs.

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Ready to drink. All right, all right, all right.

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So you guys had the Infinity Bottle. Yes. And

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we pride ourselves on that because it's stuff

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that we collect and procure for the last five

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years that we put in there. And we take some

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dabs out of it once every... three, four months.

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We really do. And we have guests come on here.

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We'll always encourage you guys to take a sample

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of it. But it's something we pride ourselves

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in having. It's not something that you would

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find on the shelves anywhere. And I have given

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some samples to some close friends that live

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remotely, including yourself. We're supposed

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to tell Darren. So have you guys heard of Only

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Drams? Only Drams, the app. That's where Paul

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posts his feet pics. You need to know about this.

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Only Drams. Only Drams. Jim, do not take your

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phone out and write it down. I will do that for

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you. So basically, it's an app that allows you

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to kind of add your collection of bourbons. If

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you're into collecting bourbons, you can put

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them all in. It's an app on your phone. Yeah,

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you can scan them. It totally inventories your

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collection, and it tells you basically how much

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you've spent. Ooh. Yeah. Problematic. That's

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a problem. When you're around your wife, you

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want to blur that? There's a blur option? Yeah,

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there is. Uncheck the box for that little section.

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I was going to say, I can't keep track because

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my wife drinks so much bourbon. Oh, really? Well,

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that's better. Can I throw a challenge? You're

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going to go there with Donna? I'm throwing a

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challenge flag on that. Ooh. Your wife drinks

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all your bourbon? So horse neck is not in there

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yet, I think because you're too new, right? Oh,

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so it pops up? Oh, yeah. It pops up. Oh, yeah.

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So if you scan the barcode, if it's in their

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system, it'll come up and it'll tell you everything

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about it. Okay. And it was scary. I brought that

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up because, you know, you were talking about

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the Infinity Bottle, and there's quite a price

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tag that has gone into that Infinity Bottle.

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There really is. Was it Drams Only? The Drams

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Only app. Only Drams. It's great for those folks

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that have a collection at their house. Essentially,

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you can scan the barcode and you upload it to

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your collection for the fucking losers like us.

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And you can rate it. You can give your taste.

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You can rate it and there's a community of people

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out there that list it. And what's neat is it

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tells you if it's common, uncommon, rare, impossible,

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or unicorn. So all you need to do is put a barcode

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on your bottle, and then everybody gets scanned

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in the bottle? Yes, sir. Yes, sir. So can I ask

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you guys, all three of you, what are your go

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-to? We're not gay. What are your go -to? Well,

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not yet. Sorry, Jim. I know we don't have video.

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Sorry, Jim. This guy right here. What are your

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go -to bourbons? Darren, you don't want to ask

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questions. What are your go -to bourbons? That's

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difficult. We need categories. We'll shoot from

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the hip, and I'll give you some. Because a lot

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of people ask us that. And it's difficult because

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there are many categories to go from. So it really

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depends on price range. Because a lot of people

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will ask us. And proof. And proof. No, come on.

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You have a bourbon that's the one I'm going to

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drink all the time. Oh, you mean like what we

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have at home? For us. For what we drink. Yes.

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Well, I'll tell you what. I'll give you some

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staples, okay? I'll tell you some things, and

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these guys will share their input. But I'll have

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some low -cost bourbons for those folks out there.

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I would say get yourself a bottle of Benchmark

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Full Proof. Benchmark. Oh, my God. That's outstanding.

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It's well bourbon. It's horrible. Yeah, Benchmark

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is well. They serve it as a well when you have

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mixed drinks at clubs, restaurants, et cetera.

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Not foolproof. Correct. But Benchmark puts out

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a foolproof subsidiary on that. Part of that

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is it's all made by Buffalo Trace Distillers.

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So the Full Proof is a fantastic alternate to

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Old Granddad, 114. Old Granddad is a staple.

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114 is incredible. So those are two that I've

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given you that you should have on your shelves.

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Betchmark Full Proof is 125 proof. Yeah, 125

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proof. It's a big old... Yeah, it'll kick you

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to the nuts. Ding in your butt, man. But again,

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these are for the folks that like to taste the

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whiskey, not to slam it. If you want to slam

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it, you're going to have a problem. But the 114,

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the old granddad, the 125, foolproof from the

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Buffalo Tres Distillers benchmark. My go -to,

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Noah's Mill. Noah's Mill. Oh, Noah's Mill. Outstanding.

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It's a weeded bourbon. Yeah, it's good. We're

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talking about price point. That's about $60.

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I'm going to pass it over to you. There's a lot

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more. If people want to get into rich bourbons

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that are cost -effective, I would say Early Times,

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100 proof. Yeah, the blue label, the bottled

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and bond Early Times, outstanding. Not the yellow

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label. I think that's the well stuff a lot of

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people use. But Early Times, the blue label,

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the bottled and bond, outstanding. It's $23,

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$24 for a liter. Now, one of my go -tos, which

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is in the 50 to 55 range, is the single barrel

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of 1792. Yes. It's absolutely a go -to for me.

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I totally agree. And I'm going to throw out a

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weird one for you guys. And I don't think these

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gentlemen agree with me, but what I have been

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drinking recently is Rickhouse Gold. What is

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it? Gold. Gold bar. Yes, they were right next

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to us at Whiskey Riot. It was based out of California.

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It's San Francisco. It's really good. It's really,

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really good. And it's 108 proof, I think. And

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it's $30. Was that the one that tasted like really

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barbecue? Smoking barbecue. Dude. Yeah, 103 proof.

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It was good. So I'm drinking right now. I brought

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that to your house last year for Memorial Weekend,

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and no respect whatsoever. Yeah. Took him a year.

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What is this? What is this? And now he's like

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whacking to the oldies over this. There was no

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whacking to Rick House. Yes. Although that's

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a great song title. I will tell you that some

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of my overall favorites, period across the board

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is a Texas whiskey 1845 from Lowry Crossing.

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I will tell you that their products are above

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and beyond. We've got some out there if you want

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to try it. They're about 20 minutes from here.

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We need to go do a tour. Absolutely. June and

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Bob are the owners of them and they're fantastic

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folks. There's the label up there. They are Texas

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Endorsed. I mean, they love Texas. Texas history,

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right? Yeah. We've made a few of our dudes like

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us woodcraft projects for them. We need to take

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Thursday and Thursday up there. Well, that's

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the thing, yeah. We may be able to link up with

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them and do something. Absolutely. And they love

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partnering. I mean, like connecting with other

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distillers. Oh, well, Mike with the boozy baking

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cookies. Michael Knox. He uses their product

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to make some of his cookies. And when you guys

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do go up there, let us know. We'll sit bitch

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with you. Well, he uses our double barrel to

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make some chocolate chip cookies. Where are they

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located? Garland or where? Lowry. Lowry. It's

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a crossing. It's south of McKinney. Oh, really?

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Kind of east. I thought Dallas was south of McKinney.

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Well, McKinney is east of 75. It's a little bit

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further east of McKinney. If you take 121, it

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turns into Highway 5, and you keep going a little

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bit, and then you need to take another right,

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and then it's somewhere up there. So beyond Fairview

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and all that area up there? Correct. Keep in

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mind that Sean thinks the world's flat. He's

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not really the best person to ask directions.

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Jim doesn't know east from west either. We all

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have our challenges. But it's not far, is my

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point. It's not far. I just had never heard of

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Lowry Crossing. Well, first of all, shame on

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you. And Bob is the mayor of Lowry Crossing.

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Bob Pettit is the mayor of Lowry Crossing, and

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he's the... founder and owner of 1845 Distillery.

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And they have a great story. They do, and they

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also have a wine distillery out there, and they

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have their own wine. They have a history of brewing

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beer that they started off in the southeast coast

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of Texas. Marlin Brewery? Is that what it was?

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No. They just wanted gold also. They did. Oh,

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they had tons of gold. They were having lots.

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Double gold. They're having lots of success.

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Yeah. Did I mention that we won a gold too? Our

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double barrel? Yes, you did. I know. That's very

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exciting. You did it on halftime. You did it

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on our show. So that's outstanding. How long

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have they been out there now? Six years. Six

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years. That's all? I believe so. Yeah, they started

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distilling six years ago, but they've only been

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released to the public for like two. Okay. Yeah.

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Yes. All right. So, Jeff, we didn't do your go

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-tos. No, we didn't. Oh. Well, Early Times was

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going to be one of them. Rare Breed is one of

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my favorites. Oh, yeah. Texas. Or Turkey. Well,

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Turkey, Rare Breed is one of my favorites. But

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downstairs, I've got the Early Times right now

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in my little decanter thing. Ooh, he decanted.

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He decanted. Stop it. We missed Rebecca Creek.

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Oh, well, they don't make any more. So, Rebecca

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Creek by itself is... It's okay. For a 12 -year

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bottle, I feel kind of an asshole saying that,

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but I don't care. But the Spanish. Dude. That's

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in my decanter. Rebecca Creek put out a product.

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It is a double -barrel Spanish oak Rebecca Creek.

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123 proof. It varied. Beautiful. And they were

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running out of it. First of all, it's gone. It

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is. In the Dallas region, we couldn't find it,

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and it started becoming sparse. And we were like,

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okay, well. Let's figure out. I had to go to

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Houston, and it just turned out that they were

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like, oh, we've got like six, seven bottles down

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here in Houston. So I went down there and farmed.

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For work. Oh, yeah, right, right. So his work

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is going from distillery to liquor store to liquor

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store to liquor store. What exactly are you doing

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down there, Sean? It's taking you longer than

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normal. Well, I hit the jackpot. So I went to

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this one place and was like, yeah, we should

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have three bottles here. And I was like, wait

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a minute, is that a fucking case up there? And

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I was like, that is the case. And so they pulled

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the case down. I bought all of it. I bought all

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of it. And then I came back and I was like Santa.

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I was like Oprah Winfrey, a bottle for you, and

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there's a bottle for you, and there's a bottle

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for you. That was fantastic. But you know what?

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You can't find it. So yeah, that's what I would

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consider a unicorn. And you know there's one

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guy. that was looking for this bottle. He's like,

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they're all gone. He's like, what asshole did

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this? Who's the asshole? There was a case here

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yesterday. He bought 28 bottles. Who's hoarding

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the toilet paper? Yeah, he's hoarding the toilet

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paper. You know what? Look, I used to, I felt

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bad during the moment. For a little bit. For

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a little bit, but I remember all those times

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where you're standing in line and someone buys

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two. And you're like, motherfucker, you're right

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in front of me. And you bought both of them.

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I was like, God bless. The last one. The last

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one. Nobody wants them. Dude, they were discarded.

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And they were kind of like, even the people at

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Specs, when I was chatting with them, they were

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kind of like, oh, well, they've got pallets of

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those in the warehouse. Like I said, you're on

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the computer. They're looking at the computer.

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I'm like. Well, bitch, order them. Bring them

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here. But whatever. I was gone. I was only there

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for a limited amount of time. I gobbled them

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all up. That is what I would consider a unicorn

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that you're not going to find anymore. But 1845.

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We got to go out there. If we want to get up

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there to what is a desirable thing that you want

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on your shelf that's so difficult to get, you

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guys looked at it during the halftime. I'd say

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rare character. Yeah. You know, that stuff. Those

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are unique. Very unique flavors. They're blends.

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No, the first, no. Well, they could be, but they're

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a little bit different. We have two single malts

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out there, and then we have one that was aged,

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a bourbon that was aged in a tokai. Is that how

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you say it? Barrel? No, it's tokai. Tokaji? This

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guy. I feel so embarrassed sometimes. He doesn't

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know how to say anything. Tokai. Tokai. so rare

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character was founded in 2021 by pablo no jim

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knows oh yeah like you know you and i you know

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what whatever it's so refreshing to be around

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a learned person like you learn it you know what

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i gotta deal with every day you're gonna want

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to come wow you and i need to go you're gonna

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want to come back every week now jim because

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this is the only affirmation you ever get wow

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He's just going to keep listening to this podcast

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over and over again. His wife's going to be like,

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seriously? Can we put this on the horse neck

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website? Because I want everybody to hear it

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now. Can we listen to something else, Jim? This

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is awful. I've been taping this on my phone the

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whole time, so I can take it home tonight. By

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the way, we haven't heard Jim's phone, have we?

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No, we haven't, because I think somebody broke

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it. But by the way, what do you go to, gentlemen?

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I mean, you drank bourbon before you bought your

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own. I mean, what the hell? Lately, I've been

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really enjoying Widow Jane. Oh, we don't have

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any of that. Yeah, we don't have any of that.

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Stevie Ray Vaughan, who was that? Interesting.

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It's really good. Yeah, they were at the Whiskey

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Riot. Theirs is a what, 10 -year? 10 -year. I

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think it's a 10 -year. Okay. That's really good.

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Good tip. What about you, John? Who was the maker?

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The Widow Jane was like by, I thought it was

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like a rock star. I don't think so. I don't know

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the story. You're thinking. Maybe. I don't think

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so. Hell House is. Oh, is that the Hell House?

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Maybe Hell House. That's by Lynyrd Skynyrd. They

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have the same looking bottle. No, that was Lynyrd

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Skynyrd. That's exactly what it was. That's the

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two. Well, let me say. And by the way, let me

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say that Widow Jane, it's after our Sherry cask

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finish. Right. Just to let you know. There you

00:17:04.130 --> 00:17:05.750
go. Right. Of course. After the horse neck Sherry

00:17:05.750 --> 00:17:07.890
finish. Of course. That's my second. All right.

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Hanoi Jane. Right. Yeah. Widow Jane. I'm very

00:17:11.710 --> 00:17:16.640
new. To bourbon, I guess I say, with my palate.

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Not with the business, but with my palate. So

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Old Crow? You say that, and I have an old crow

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in the closet. I'll admit it. I'll admit it.

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Don't dog it, man. Back when I bought the big

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bottle for like $5. It's plastic. Comes with

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a $5 pack of Swisher Sweets. Perfect. Still got

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the Swisher Sweets. No, I would say, obviously,

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horse neck. But old Ezra Sevenyear. That's a

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good one. I really, really like that. Hard to

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find sometimes, but really good. It disappeared

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for quite a while, then all of a sudden it was

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on a bunch of shelves, and then it's gone again.

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The rumor we heard, or I heard, was that they

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produce it once a year and send it out once a

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year. I don't know if it confirmed that or not,

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but when it's there, it's there. There's a lot

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of it there. You know what we found? So we sample

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lots of bourbon, right? A different bourbon every

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first and second podcast that we do. And we started

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to find ourselves becoming snobs. And about two

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gallons every Friday. Every Friday. Every Friday.

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No, we found ourselves being snobs and, you know,

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the higher proofs were the only ones that mattered.

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But then we found ourselves saying, because we

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would rate them. We rate them. We have a spreadsheet

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and it rates from usually five and a half to

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maybe a nine. There's a couple of nines out there.

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A couple of nines out there. I think the Victor's

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Tense and Rare Characters were nines. Right.

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Maybe the pinhook, maybe? Yeah, the pinhook four

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-year was fabulous. Really? There's one after

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we got it. Yeah, but look, it's not all pinhook.

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No. That one. That one only. I mean, look, I

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don't want to post those. Which one is it? Because

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I've had pinhook, and I would not have rated

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it. Oh, it was tremendous. Yeah, Jeff will get

00:19:07.359 --> 00:19:08.980
it, man. All right, so while he's grabbing that.

00:19:09.079 --> 00:19:11.359
A couple of your Garrisons have rated 9, too.

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Oh, yeah, the Garrison's 90 proof. The Cowboy?

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The Cowboy's good. Oh, the Cowboy's one. The

00:19:16.960 --> 00:19:19.740
Cowboy's single barrel, the Lady Bird. Unbelievable,

00:19:19.900 --> 00:19:22.619
the Cowboy. I think that's what we drank and

00:19:22.619 --> 00:19:25.240
walked out on Dan on. It's a Cowboy. Jeff, do

00:19:25.240 --> 00:19:26.619
we have another bottle of that, or is that it?

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Oh, thank God. Coy Hill. It's a really, really

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good Coy Hill. It looks like a Basil Hayden almost.

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That is a beautiful bottle. I mean, the juice

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in that thing is great. The juice is actually

00:19:41.430 --> 00:19:44.269
from Still Austin. Oh, is it really? Which, by

00:19:44.269 --> 00:19:46.930
the way, is excellent. Keep the love in the family

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as far as Texas goes. Yeah, for sure. That looks

00:19:49.569 --> 00:19:53.319
good. Yeah. Anyway, so what I was going to tell

00:19:53.319 --> 00:19:54.460
you guys—sorry, go ahead. I was going to say

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they don't make that one anymore. It was a one

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-and -done type of thing. One -and -done, yeah.

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It was a special edition, limited edition. Yeah.

00:20:00.079 --> 00:20:02.420
Anyway, so what we found ourselves seeing—you

00:20:02.420 --> 00:20:05.079
know, sometimes we would rate something a 6 or

00:20:05.079 --> 00:20:07.759
a 6 .2, and that sounds bad. But at the end of

00:20:07.759 --> 00:20:09.960
it, we'd be like, you know what? If we go over

00:20:09.960 --> 00:20:13.279
to a friend's house, and they pull out the bottle

00:20:13.279 --> 00:20:15.740
that we just sampled that we said was a 6 .2,

00:20:15.839 --> 00:20:19.380
and they pour two glasses, we enjoy it. Yeah,

00:20:19.400 --> 00:20:22.019
right. You know what I mean? It's so rare that

00:20:22.019 --> 00:20:24.559
we drink something that, like, yeah, I'm sorry,

00:20:24.680 --> 00:20:27.220
I'm going to decline it, right? Or I'm going

00:20:27.220 --> 00:20:30.799
to push it back to my host and say, yeah, this

00:20:30.799 --> 00:20:35.700
is not drinkable. We are losers, though. I'm

00:20:35.700 --> 00:20:37.759
just saying. I'm just saying. So, you know, you've

00:20:37.759 --> 00:20:40.019
got to take these ratings that we give with a

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grain of salt. You can't have a fantastic whiskey

00:20:42.599 --> 00:20:46.230
bourbon without experiencing the lower end. You

00:20:46.230 --> 00:20:48.369
know, you got to appreciate the lower end because,

00:20:48.430 --> 00:20:51.509
you know, you can take age and age, which is

00:20:51.509 --> 00:20:54.230
undesirable in my opinion. You know, my point,

00:20:54.349 --> 00:20:56.950
with the lows come the highs. Right, right. That's

00:20:56.950 --> 00:20:58.750
kind of what I'm getting at. This stuff right

00:20:58.750 --> 00:21:01.650
here, the collective, the collaboration series,

00:21:01.869 --> 00:21:04.210
the pinhook four -year. Number four, is that

00:21:04.210 --> 00:21:06.869
what it says? I'm telling you, it's ridiculous

00:21:06.869 --> 00:21:09.730
in how, I mean, you guys could do a sample if

00:21:09.730 --> 00:21:12.849
you want. I don't want you getting all shift

00:21:12.849 --> 00:21:16.089
-based driving home. It's 114, right? 118, 119,

00:21:16.089 --> 00:21:19.069
almost 119. Let me see this. Yeah, but it's right

00:21:19.069 --> 00:21:21.650
in my wheelhouse. I love that stuff. Yeah, yeah,

00:21:21.690 --> 00:21:24.710
yeah. But, you know, that's what we like. That's

00:21:24.710 --> 00:21:26.990
what gets us going. But we're going to, like

00:21:26.990 --> 00:21:28.930
this right here, if it were high -proof, what

00:21:28.930 --> 00:21:30.609
would you say, Paul? Well, I was going to say,

00:21:30.670 --> 00:21:36.049
you said Kurt does all the labeling. Yeah, he's

00:21:36.049 --> 00:21:37.130
our marketing guy. He does all the— Is there

00:21:37.130 --> 00:21:40.569
any symbolism? You know, so we had the big stick.

00:21:40.960 --> 00:21:47.619
guy. Big Mike. He had so much symbolism. Mike

00:21:47.619 --> 00:21:51.259
Ryan. With the label. Everything meant something.

00:21:51.980 --> 00:21:54.220
Marines, military. Do you guys have a lot of

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meaning, symbolism, anything? It's proprietary.

00:22:00.000 --> 00:22:03.960
You'd have to kill us. That's great. There'd

00:22:03.960 --> 00:22:06.420
be a mass shooting at the podcast room if you

00:22:06.420 --> 00:22:09.220
told us anything. I would say one thing that

00:22:09.220 --> 00:22:12.849
I think we all wanted to stick to was, even though

00:22:12.849 --> 00:22:15.470
it's Kentucky bourbon, we wanted some Texas on

00:22:15.470 --> 00:22:18.750
there. So that was one thing that we really talked

00:22:18.750 --> 00:22:22.069
about, keeping the state, the TX, whatever, but

00:22:22.069 --> 00:22:23.970
somewhere it had to be on there, and that was

00:22:23.970 --> 00:22:27.170
one thing. Absolutely. No, I was just curious.

00:22:27.309 --> 00:22:28.450
Yeah, I don't know if there's anything else.

00:22:28.450 --> 00:22:30.869
I don't think, I mean, he was looking, Kurt's

00:22:30.869 --> 00:22:33.390
a great marketing guy, and he just wanted a bottle

00:22:33.390 --> 00:22:35.490
that was pleasing to the eye, that drew the attention.

00:22:35.589 --> 00:22:39.029
Right, right, right. And I think, yeah. You know

00:22:39.029 --> 00:22:41.230
something? But there's got to be symbolism. I

00:22:41.230 --> 00:22:43.089
mean, there's symbolism on everything. There's

00:22:43.089 --> 00:22:45.329
got to be some deep -seated stuff that he put

00:22:45.329 --> 00:22:48.349
in there. You got to ask him. It depends on which

00:22:48.349 --> 00:22:51.990
bottle you get. But in the horse's eye, not the

00:22:51.990 --> 00:22:56.289
horse's A. In the horse's eye, there's certain

00:22:56.289 --> 00:22:59.809
bottles that they're winking at you. What are

00:22:59.809 --> 00:23:02.519
you talking about? I think I see that. Go with

00:23:02.519 --> 00:23:05.099
it. Go with it. Is this like a Disney show where

00:23:05.099 --> 00:23:07.660
you see like penises and the cloud formations

00:23:07.660 --> 00:23:10.240
or something? See what you did? This isn't Beauty

00:23:10.240 --> 00:23:11.759
and the Beast. See what you brought on, Jim,

00:23:11.779 --> 00:23:15.000
with that comment? We are far from Disney. Far

00:23:15.000 --> 00:23:17.019
from Disney. There's a little nut in your eye,

00:23:17.079 --> 00:23:18.299
right? Is that what you're getting at? There's

00:23:18.299 --> 00:23:20.480
a horse neck, there's a tank. That's why we don't

00:23:20.480 --> 00:23:23.519
let you out very often, Jim. Wow. When you guys

00:23:23.519 --> 00:23:25.420
were kids, did you ever take your cassette tapes

00:23:25.420 --> 00:23:30.220
and reverse the wheels? Yeah. Or play the record.

00:23:30.960 --> 00:23:33.619
I'm finding when I read your label backwards,

00:23:33.960 --> 00:23:38.279
there's some weird -ass shit I'm feeling. Lucifer

00:23:38.279 --> 00:23:42.220
is here for you. Give me your kids. Drink it

00:23:42.220 --> 00:23:45.539
and die. Oh, that's funny. All right, all right.

00:23:46.279 --> 00:23:50.259
Good stuff. Yes, all right. But we didn't talk

00:23:50.259 --> 00:23:52.119
about this. Let's just dive into this. Yeah,

00:23:52.119 --> 00:23:54.099
let's dive into it. The sherry finish. Okay,

00:23:54.259 --> 00:23:57.880
excellent. It's probably more your favorite.

00:23:58.680 --> 00:24:02.400
than mine. I'm just not a Sherry fan. I don't

00:24:02.400 --> 00:24:06.359
think you would know it was Sherry unless I told

00:24:06.359 --> 00:24:12.000
you. Would you say, oh, this is Sherry? Not this

00:24:12.000 --> 00:24:14.640
one. I would say more Sherry finishes from my

00:24:14.640 --> 00:24:18.480
experience. Sherry has a muddled kind of a taste

00:24:18.480 --> 00:24:22.049
because anytime that When you have a wine barrel

00:24:22.049 --> 00:24:26.650
or a port, it has a little bit of a muddled taste.

00:24:26.829 --> 00:24:29.049
I call it a muddled taste. I don't know. That's

00:24:29.049 --> 00:24:32.150
what I take out of it. Not pure bourbon, but

00:24:32.150 --> 00:24:33.529
a little bit of both in there. It's a little

00:24:33.529 --> 00:24:38.549
muddled. If you think about a grape skin. Like

00:24:38.549 --> 00:24:41.049
bitter almost? Yeah, it's got that muddled...

00:24:41.529 --> 00:24:44.190
bitterness that a grape skin of the grape will

00:24:44.190 --> 00:24:47.150
have. That's the stuff that kind of pushes through

00:24:47.150 --> 00:24:51.589
the thing. Do you get that with this? I do not.

00:24:51.769 --> 00:24:55.470
Here's what I get. I do get a richer, fruitier

00:24:55.470 --> 00:24:59.130
finish on this than I do the other one. Honestly,

00:24:59.130 --> 00:25:02.630
I smell celery. But it's subtle. You know what

00:25:02.630 --> 00:25:05.009
I'm saying? It doesn't blast through. The fruitiness

00:25:05.009 --> 00:25:07.130
doesn't blast through. It's more subtle. That's

00:25:07.130 --> 00:25:09.049
why I hate to use the word sweet because it's

00:25:09.049 --> 00:25:11.210
not sweet. It's not sweet. But it's got that

00:25:11.210 --> 00:25:13.869
tinge. I think it is. I think it's got a raisin

00:25:13.869 --> 00:25:16.289
bite in there. I don't think it does. Yeah, but

00:25:16.289 --> 00:25:19.849
not sweet. Like I said, it's like a rich fruit.

00:25:20.069 --> 00:25:22.450
Right. And I think, for me, it hangs on longer.

00:25:22.769 --> 00:25:25.849
It does. It lasts longer. Oh, it lasts longer

00:25:25.849 --> 00:25:28.130
than a 101. I think so. The finish on this is

00:25:28.130 --> 00:25:29.829
a lot longer. You know, Jeff's really good at

00:25:29.829 --> 00:25:32.730
this. What do you got? Come on. Give me a slurp.

00:25:33.160 --> 00:25:35.700
And give me a finish here. Jesus. Perfect. We

00:25:35.700 --> 00:25:37.420
had a nickel every time I had to hear that. He's

00:25:37.420 --> 00:25:40.160
like a Neanderthal, but he loves bourbon. Well,

00:25:40.180 --> 00:25:43.240
we also learned when we were up at the bourbon

00:25:43.240 --> 00:25:46.799
trail about the bourbon chew. Oh, yeah. It was

00:25:46.799 --> 00:25:49.880
a Jim Beam, and he had all of us doing it. He

00:25:49.880 --> 00:25:51.279
goes, you put it in there, and you swallow it,

00:25:51.299 --> 00:25:53.339
and you start smacking your teeth. So whether

00:25:53.339 --> 00:25:57.279
like 12 or 15 people are like this, going, oh,

00:25:57.279 --> 00:25:58.960
yeah, I think I can taste all this stuff now.

00:25:58.960 --> 00:26:00.940
Very attractive, by the way. We were all doing

00:26:00.940 --> 00:26:03.500
it. Very attractive. You're going to do a video

00:26:03.500 --> 00:26:07.319
of that? No, but I pick up some stone fruits,

00:26:07.500 --> 00:26:09.160
which is Sean's favorite. I'm going to do it.

00:26:09.160 --> 00:26:11.339
There is stone fruits. Stone fruits. Some dark

00:26:11.339 --> 00:26:13.420
fruits. Some of the dark fruits is what I pick

00:26:13.420 --> 00:26:18.339
up in this. Cherry. It's a plum. The stone fruit

00:26:18.339 --> 00:26:21.519
with the plum. Cherry is hardcore in there. You

00:26:21.519 --> 00:26:24.799
know, not even dark cherry. You guys have much

00:26:24.799 --> 00:26:27.000
better palate than I do. I tell you, I get up

00:26:27.000 --> 00:26:29.319
when I do the, what do you call it? The chew?

00:26:29.519 --> 00:26:32.460
The chew, yes. I get more. There's honey. I get

00:26:32.460 --> 00:26:37.019
more wine in there. I do. All right, don't do

00:26:37.019 --> 00:26:38.940
that anymore. Yeah, it doesn't sound good in

00:26:38.940 --> 00:26:39.839
the microphone. No, no, I'm not doing it in my

00:26:39.839 --> 00:26:44.980
mouth. But it actually worked. As I do. I shouldn't

00:26:44.980 --> 00:26:46.940
have said that. Let's edit that out. Mr. Producer,

00:26:47.140 --> 00:26:49.240
mark that down. Let's edit that out. Horseneck

00:26:49.240 --> 00:26:51.299
sherry cast bourbon is described as complex,

00:26:51.380 --> 00:26:53.400
smooth, layered bourbon with a sherry cast finish

00:26:53.400 --> 00:26:55.220
contributing to its rich and enjoyable flavor

00:26:55.220 --> 00:26:58.500
profile. So I've got a question for you all since

00:26:58.500 --> 00:27:02.869
you're bourbon experts. Let's do it. My palate

00:27:02.869 --> 00:27:05.170
is not all that great. It's good, but not great

00:27:05.170 --> 00:27:07.970
like a lot of other people. But one time I was

00:27:07.970 --> 00:27:10.569
up in Oklahoma, and I was smoking a cigar. A

00:27:10.569 --> 00:27:13.849
what? A cigar. Okay. Nice cigar. Not swish or

00:27:13.849 --> 00:27:17.150
sweet. A cigar. And I was drinking some bourbon,

00:27:17.190 --> 00:27:20.390
and I mean, it just exploded in my mouth. All

00:27:20.390 --> 00:27:23.150
the flavors. Cigars can do that. That was my

00:27:23.150 --> 00:27:25.150
question. It complements it, yeah. Does it complement

00:27:25.150 --> 00:27:27.430
that? Absolutely. Yeah, absolutely. If you were

00:27:27.430 --> 00:27:31.140
to take a cigar with this, it... It adds to the

00:27:31.140 --> 00:27:34.160
– I would say it reacts with the char. Anytime

00:27:34.160 --> 00:27:37.039
a barrel is charred and you've got some smoke

00:27:37.039 --> 00:27:38.819
in your mouth, there's an interaction there.

00:27:38.940 --> 00:27:43.599
I can't describe it, but it's – what's the word?

00:27:45.000 --> 00:27:49.660
Amplified. Synergized. Enhanced. Enhanced, yeah.

00:27:50.920 --> 00:27:55.319
Orgasmic. It can be depending on what you're

00:27:55.319 --> 00:27:58.299
dealing with. Do we have a ticker ticker for

00:27:58.299 --> 00:28:01.720
the Dallas Stars? It's 2 -1 Oiler. 2 -1 Oiler.

00:28:01.819 --> 00:28:07.019
It's really 1 -2 -1. We can't lose this, by the

00:28:07.019 --> 00:28:08.720
way. Are you guys huge Cigar fans? We cannot

00:28:08.720 --> 00:28:10.380
lose this. Come to playoffs, I am. We cannot

00:28:10.380 --> 00:28:13.220
lose this. We cannot. So you're a big Cigar fan?

00:28:13.779 --> 00:28:20.339
Not big, but I do enjoy Cigar. At least. I think

00:28:20.339 --> 00:28:22.559
Sean's probably more than most of us. We really

00:28:22.559 --> 00:28:25.279
haven't got into the cigar scene yet. So I'll

00:28:25.279 --> 00:28:30.579
tell you that in my 20s and 30s, I smoked a ton

00:28:30.579 --> 00:28:35.839
of cigars. And I had to stop because I was drinking

00:28:35.839 --> 00:28:42.720
so much, a loser, and I had stomach issues. So

00:28:42.720 --> 00:28:45.740
every time I smoked a cigar, my stomach acid

00:28:45.740 --> 00:28:49.190
just went through the roof. And it just affected

00:28:49.190 --> 00:28:52.089
me. So I was like, I just can't do that. And

00:28:52.089 --> 00:28:54.450
so I stopped for a very long time. But you kept

00:28:54.450 --> 00:28:56.990
drinking. Yeah, you can't stop drinking because

00:28:56.990 --> 00:29:00.690
of the stomach acid. It makes it worse. I got

00:29:00.690 --> 00:29:03.529
to tell you, the guys kind of make fun of me

00:29:03.529 --> 00:29:06.549
about this because I'm into holistic kind of

00:29:06.549 --> 00:29:11.670
solutions for medical. Here we go. I was one

00:29:11.670 --> 00:29:14.049
of those guys that took acid inhibitors for a

00:29:14.049 --> 00:29:17.930
long time. He took acid as well. TAC, is that

00:29:17.930 --> 00:29:20.849
what it is? Yeah, there's just a bunch of that

00:29:20.849 --> 00:29:23.430
shit. You know, I took it for 30 years, all right?

00:29:23.430 --> 00:29:26.390
And I was listening to some doctor, Dr. Barbara

00:29:26.390 --> 00:29:30.750
O 'Neill. I thought it was Dr. Ruth. Dr. Ruth

00:29:30.750 --> 00:29:32.950
Westheimer. No, I'm not talking about the sex

00:29:32.950 --> 00:29:36.529
doctor. Oh, my bad. My bad. It was Dr. Barbara

00:29:36.529 --> 00:29:39.390
O 'Neill, and she's a doctor, and she's old as

00:29:39.390 --> 00:29:41.609
shit, but she doesn't look like it. But she brought

00:29:41.609 --> 00:29:45.390
up folks that she said that they're idiots for

00:29:45.390 --> 00:29:48.490
taking that drug. She was like, you can cure

00:29:48.490 --> 00:29:51.990
your ailments from your acid, your stomach issues,

00:29:52.109 --> 00:29:55.410
if you control the water intake in your life.

00:29:56.109 --> 00:30:01.589
Period. Your fluids intake. More or less. So

00:30:01.589 --> 00:30:03.970
it's not necessarily more or less. It's timing.

00:30:04.130 --> 00:30:08.349
It's 100 % timing. So it's like you don't drink

00:30:08.349 --> 00:30:10.890
before you eat, during your eat, or after you

00:30:10.890 --> 00:30:13.509
eat. Period. If you want to drink like a whiskey

00:30:13.509 --> 00:30:18.069
or perhaps a horse neck beverage, yeah, you want

00:30:18.069 --> 00:30:20.650
to sip it. You don't want to drink it. You want

00:30:20.650 --> 00:30:23.309
to enjoy it because what you're doing is when

00:30:23.309 --> 00:30:26.109
you have the food in your stomach, and all of

00:30:26.109 --> 00:30:28.349
a sudden you're introducing it to like, oh, I

00:30:28.349 --> 00:30:31.410
want a 32 -ounce Coca -Cola sitting on my table

00:30:31.410 --> 00:30:35.210
or a nice tea or whatever. Great accent. Why

00:30:35.210 --> 00:30:40.869
do you talk like that? Certain accents come out

00:30:40.869 --> 00:30:42.769
at certain times. For our podcast listeners,

00:30:42.930 --> 00:30:45.109
if you drink a 32 -ounce Coke, you're a redneck.

00:30:45.589 --> 00:30:47.970
It's for the Tennessee folk. Yeah, apparently.

00:30:48.329 --> 00:30:52.450
If you drink a 32 -ounce, it's either Texas Hick,

00:30:52.569 --> 00:30:55.779
Bill Cosby, or New Jersey. Yeah. It's tantalizing.

00:30:56.259 --> 00:31:03.880
My point is that your stomach has to do its job.

00:31:04.079 --> 00:31:06.519
And sometimes when you dilute the acids in your

00:31:06.519 --> 00:31:08.980
stomach by drinking so much during while you're

00:31:08.980 --> 00:31:12.019
eating, that's... your body produces more. Yeah.

00:31:12.059 --> 00:31:14.339
It gets in a cycle where it just, it starts,

00:31:14.400 --> 00:31:16.900
oh, God bless, we were running out of acid, let's

00:31:16.900 --> 00:31:18.980
fix this stuff. And that's a problem because

00:31:18.980 --> 00:31:21.099
after that food goes away, then the acid's still

00:31:21.099 --> 00:31:22.940
there, it gives the acid reflux, it's uncomfortable,

00:31:23.259 --> 00:31:25.660
blah, blah, blah. I'll tell you what, January

00:31:25.660 --> 00:31:29.319
of this year, I stopped taking my medicine after

00:31:29.319 --> 00:31:32.599
30 years. Zantac, Prilosec, any of those? All

00:31:32.599 --> 00:31:35.690
of them. And now he has. Constant diarrhea. I

00:31:35.690 --> 00:31:40.390
have herpes. No. Funny you should say, I sold

00:31:40.390 --> 00:31:42.069
a medicine for herpes. He wears a diaper for

00:31:42.069 --> 00:31:45.549
God's sake. But what I'm saying is that I don't

00:31:45.549 --> 00:31:48.730
have a problem with it. I purposely don't have,

00:31:48.970 --> 00:31:52.670
like I had last night, I had Italian food. Spicy.

00:31:53.069 --> 00:31:56.309
I didn't drink anything. I didn't drink anything.

00:31:56.650 --> 00:31:59.769
I had a little bottle of a club soda and I took

00:31:59.769 --> 00:32:03.289
a couple sips out of it and I was fine. And normally

00:32:03.289 --> 00:32:06.369
I would be like, This is catastrophic. It's true.

00:32:06.509 --> 00:32:09.490
It's a formula for disaster. During the meal,

00:32:09.569 --> 00:32:11.390
you're saying you don't drink anything. I don't

00:32:11.390 --> 00:32:14.650
drink before, during, or right after. So it's

00:32:14.650 --> 00:32:17.430
a three -hour process. Okay. All right? I wouldn't

00:32:17.430 --> 00:32:19.910
drink anything an hour before, during, or an

00:32:19.910 --> 00:32:22.630
hour after. You don't drink anything, like even

00:32:22.630 --> 00:32:26.009
water. When you say you don't drink, you mean

00:32:26.009 --> 00:32:29.710
like alcohol? Period. Fluids. I mean, look, I

00:32:29.710 --> 00:32:31.630
have something to drink because you need something

00:32:31.630 --> 00:32:33.789
to wet your whistle. You need to have something.

00:32:33.930 --> 00:32:36.869
But I'm not going to sit there and down. Like

00:32:36.869 --> 00:32:38.549
when you're at a table, I'll have more iced tea.

00:32:39.089 --> 00:32:41.789
Dude, you've got like a 28 fucking ounce glass

00:32:41.789 --> 00:32:44.009
of iced tea there. You're going to have stomach

00:32:44.009 --> 00:32:46.009
issues if you drink that. I don't care what the

00:32:46.009 --> 00:32:48.269
fuck it is. It could be Coke, Dr. Pepper, iced

00:32:48.269 --> 00:32:51.190
tea, water. What does it matter? Beer? It could

00:32:51.190 --> 00:32:53.569
be anything. If you're going to drink that, it's

00:32:53.569 --> 00:32:55.230
going to dilute what's in your stomach, and you're

00:32:55.230 --> 00:32:56.710
going to have stomach issues. I mean, the bottom

00:32:56.710 --> 00:33:01.869
line is, first off, everybody's body is different.

00:33:02.029 --> 00:33:07.250
It is. But the bottom line is, fluids can affect

00:33:07.250 --> 00:33:10.269
the very delicate balance of when your body is

00:33:10.269 --> 00:33:13.529
getting the signal to produce stomach acid. So

00:33:13.529 --> 00:33:16.730
that's the only change. Jeff, are you going to

00:33:16.730 --> 00:33:19.930
chime in here? No, I prescribe to it because

00:33:19.930 --> 00:33:24.410
my youngest son drinks, I don't know, 10 cups

00:33:24.410 --> 00:33:27.210
of water with dinner. And he has horrible reflux.

00:33:27.230 --> 00:33:30.670
Wow. Yes. And he's just drinking, chugging water.

00:33:30.829 --> 00:33:35.869
And he's 23. And he's always fighting it. And

00:33:35.869 --> 00:33:37.809
I tell him, I was like, you need to stop drinking

00:33:37.809 --> 00:33:40.410
that much water when you eat your food. And he

00:33:40.410 --> 00:33:42.619
won't stop. for whatever reason. Yeah, it's okay

00:33:42.619 --> 00:33:44.740
to drink that much, but throughout the day, just

00:33:44.740 --> 00:33:47.500
not a fan. You think about caveman days. When

00:33:47.500 --> 00:33:52.400
cavemen ate, they ate. There wasn't water around

00:33:52.400 --> 00:33:54.700
and stuff. They ate, and that was it. How do

00:33:54.700 --> 00:33:57.430
you know that? I don't know my history. I was

00:33:57.430 --> 00:33:59.410
there. He was there. How long have you been around,

00:33:59.430 --> 00:34:02.089
dude? Wow. I'm the old man of the group. What

00:34:02.089 --> 00:34:04.170
the hell? How did he know that? You've got a

00:34:04.170 --> 00:34:05.569
seasoned veteran on your team, Darren. That was

00:34:05.569 --> 00:34:09.530
my uncle. You're like a PhD in history. Ancient

00:34:09.530 --> 00:34:12.409
history. Back when I was a caveman. You just

00:34:12.409 --> 00:34:15.070
make shit up as you get older. Say it with confidence,

00:34:15.210 --> 00:34:17.210
baby. Say it with confidence. Nobody will know

00:34:17.210 --> 00:34:21.300
the difference. For me, it worked. I'm going

00:34:21.300 --> 00:34:22.920
to try it. I'm going to try it. That makes sense.

00:34:22.940 --> 00:34:26.920
How was that good? Where was that going? Yeah,

00:34:27.000 --> 00:34:29.139
you always push your health issues on everybody.

00:34:29.519 --> 00:34:31.780
Celtic salt, maybe? Yeah. Well, I mean, Celtic

00:34:31.780 --> 00:34:33.440
salt. So now you've ruined a good glass of wine

00:34:33.440 --> 00:34:35.800
with my Italian dinner. No, no. A glass of wine

00:34:35.800 --> 00:34:39.210
is perfect. Don't wash it down with two glasses

00:34:39.210 --> 00:34:42.829
of iced tea. No, no. Again, it's not the matter

00:34:42.829 --> 00:34:45.170
of it being Coke, tea, alcohol, or whatever it

00:34:45.170 --> 00:34:47.349
is. It could be anything. It's just the volume

00:34:47.349 --> 00:34:51.550
of dilution that you're doing to the acid. So

00:34:51.550 --> 00:34:53.510
it could be anything. So it's just like, you

00:34:53.510 --> 00:34:54.969
want a glass of wine? Drink a glass of wine.

00:34:55.010 --> 00:34:57.139
Just sip it. And on top of that. Don't have to.

00:34:57.320 --> 00:34:59.699
So my wife and I went to a clinical nutritionist

00:34:59.699 --> 00:35:01.719
to understand, you know, what's going on with

00:35:01.719 --> 00:35:03.360
different ailments we have. And, you know, I

00:35:03.360 --> 00:35:06.219
could go off on a huge tangent on that. But he

00:35:06.219 --> 00:35:11.280
said. Micropenis. If you. No. No. No. And we're

00:35:11.280 --> 00:35:13.500
going to edit that. She has a micropenis? What

00:35:13.500 --> 00:35:16.260
the? No, it's not. She has a much bigger. Wait.

00:35:16.380 --> 00:35:20.610
Hold on. Fuck. What? All right, anyway, listen,

00:35:20.809 --> 00:35:23.130
what he said was, this is why, by the way, you

00:35:23.130 --> 00:35:25.210
said earlier, like, you know, Jeff, what do you

00:35:25.210 --> 00:35:26.610
think? This is why we can't go live. We don't

00:35:26.610 --> 00:35:28.289
let him talk. Sorry, sorry. There's a reason

00:35:28.289 --> 00:35:30.510
why we don't let him talk, because he says stupid

00:35:30.510 --> 00:35:32.550
shit like that. No, no, I think you should be

00:35:32.550 --> 00:35:34.630
talking more. No, no, no. That's the right line.

00:35:34.750 --> 00:35:36.949
No, he doesn't. Can you turn the mics off, please?

00:35:37.210 --> 00:35:40.510
Yes, please. Now, anyway, what the clinical nutritionist

00:35:40.510 --> 00:35:43.150
said is, you do not want any fluids to interfere

00:35:43.150 --> 00:35:46.079
with the absorption of what you eat. Period.

00:35:46.199 --> 00:35:48.900
I mean, not only what can be affected in terms

00:35:48.900 --> 00:35:51.340
of acid and all that kind of stuff, but you want

00:35:51.340 --> 00:35:54.960
the food that you eat to be fully digested, fully

00:35:54.960 --> 00:35:58.519
broken down. Really, it's the broken down part.

00:35:58.659 --> 00:36:00.820
It is the broken down part. Thank you for bringing

00:36:00.820 --> 00:36:03.400
that up. That was the part I was trying to get

00:36:03.400 --> 00:36:05.559
to. Yeah, but you failed miserably. Yeah, I did.

00:36:06.400 --> 00:36:10.320
But breaking things down is critical because

00:36:10.320 --> 00:36:12.960
some of those elements that are in that food

00:36:12.960 --> 00:36:15.659
that... It doesn't happen until some of the final

00:36:15.659 --> 00:36:17.960
phases of it break down. And it gets interrupted.

00:36:17.960 --> 00:36:20.239
It gets interrupted by liquid. And you shit it

00:36:20.239 --> 00:36:22.039
out. And it's gone. And therefore, you didn't

00:36:22.039 --> 00:36:25.340
get your magnesium. You didn't get your vitamin

00:36:25.340 --> 00:36:27.880
B or whatever it is that you're supposed to get

00:36:27.880 --> 00:36:31.519
that we're all deficient of. Selenium? Yes, selenium.

00:36:31.619 --> 00:36:34.440
You didn't get your D. You beat me to it, you

00:36:34.440 --> 00:36:38.280
fucker. He beat me to strontium. You asshole.

00:36:39.239 --> 00:36:41.280
This is the last direction I thought this podcast

00:36:41.280 --> 00:36:43.820
was going to go. Right? Vitamins and health food.

00:36:43.980 --> 00:36:45.699
Darren, turn around to the board and tell me

00:36:45.699 --> 00:36:48.460
if any of that is on the board. It's not on the

00:36:48.460 --> 00:36:50.099
board. No, it's not on the board. See, this is

00:36:50.099 --> 00:36:51.699
what we do. Not at all. This is what we do. But

00:36:51.699 --> 00:36:53.420
it's interesting. This is what dudes like us

00:36:53.420 --> 00:36:56.579
do. This is what dudes like us do. We just bullshit

00:36:56.579 --> 00:36:58.739
and we talk about crazy stuff. Right? Here we

00:36:58.739 --> 00:37:01.940
go. It's things that we should talk about, though.

00:37:02.039 --> 00:37:04.039
I mean, there are, because there are a lot of

00:37:04.039 --> 00:37:06.400
people out there suffering needlessly. Look,

00:37:07.059 --> 00:37:08.980
it's ignorance. You know what? It's not just

00:37:08.980 --> 00:37:10.860
ignorance. And frankly, it makes me a little

00:37:10.860 --> 00:37:13.300
disgruntled. Actually, it makes me a lot disgruntled

00:37:13.300 --> 00:37:15.900
that our medical industries out there aren't

00:37:15.900 --> 00:37:19.199
sharing these simple solutions with them. Instead,

00:37:19.320 --> 00:37:21.320
they want to prescribe. Why do you think? Because

00:37:21.320 --> 00:37:22.920
they want to make money for the pharmaceuticals.

00:37:23.000 --> 00:37:24.840
They want to sell. It's all about money. What

00:37:24.840 --> 00:37:28.570
is it? Prevacid? No, Zantac. Zantac. They want

00:37:28.570 --> 00:37:31.530
to sell them. Prilosec. Prilosec. They were some

00:37:31.530 --> 00:37:33.250
of the two biggest products. I never sold them.

00:37:33.289 --> 00:37:34.829
They want to sell them. They were the two biggest

00:37:34.829 --> 00:37:37.409
products ever. Billion dollar products. That's

00:37:37.409 --> 00:37:39.630
why. It's a business out there. I get it. It's

00:37:39.630 --> 00:37:43.150
a business out there, but we have a new sheriff

00:37:43.150 --> 00:37:45.349
in this town, and his name is RFK. Let's talk

00:37:45.349 --> 00:37:46.809
about Maha. And he's cleaning house if you guys

00:37:46.809 --> 00:37:49.210
want to make America healthy again. Let's talk

00:37:49.210 --> 00:37:50.630
about it. What do you guys think about this?

00:37:51.440 --> 00:37:54.239
I think he's got a lot of good points because

00:37:54.239 --> 00:37:57.519
I think there's a lot of, coming from the pharma

00:37:57.519 --> 00:37:59.260
industry, and I'll probably get fired for saying

00:37:59.260 --> 00:38:02.980
this, but luckily my boss doesn't listen to podcasts.

00:38:03.340 --> 00:38:06.800
At least I don't think he does. There's a lot

00:38:06.800 --> 00:38:09.000
of information like that that can be holistic

00:38:09.000 --> 00:38:12.280
that is not out there. Or doctors have gotten

00:38:12.280 --> 00:38:15.679
frustrated by trying to share it in patients

00:38:15.679 --> 00:38:20.119
not like you taking it up. It's like talking

00:38:20.119 --> 00:38:23.739
to a wall, a diabetic to lose weight. Some doctors,

00:38:24.000 --> 00:38:26.420
they just give up. Or to change their diet. I'll

00:38:26.420 --> 00:38:28.579
treat you, yeah. So I think there's a lot of

00:38:28.579 --> 00:38:31.960
frustration on both ends because the doctors

00:38:31.960 --> 00:38:35.820
I truly believe are not the ones I deal with.

00:38:36.000 --> 00:38:38.219
They're not in it for the pharmaceuticals. They're

00:38:38.219 --> 00:38:40.820
in it for the patient. Sure. But getting through

00:38:40.820 --> 00:38:43.239
to the patient to make them understand what's

00:38:43.239 --> 00:38:45.619
best for them sometimes doesn't happen, especially

00:38:45.619 --> 00:38:48.000
when they're getting paid for a 15 -minute visit.

00:38:48.349 --> 00:38:52.909
I also think that the people in America are looking

00:38:52.909 --> 00:38:55.329
for the easy way out. Give me the pill, give

00:38:55.329 --> 00:38:58.090
me the shot, whatever. And I actually think both

00:38:58.090 --> 00:39:00.769
are. The patient and the doctor are looking for

00:39:00.769 --> 00:39:03.550
quick fix because they know that their true solution

00:39:03.550 --> 00:39:08.449
is a year -long diet change, a lifestyle change,

00:39:08.710 --> 00:39:10.869
a this and a that, all these things that people

00:39:10.869 --> 00:39:13.340
are not willing to do. The doctors know it. The

00:39:13.340 --> 00:39:15.840
patients know it. And the pharmaceuticals fill

00:39:15.840 --> 00:39:17.619
the gap. The pharmaceutical industry doesn't

00:39:17.619 --> 00:39:19.139
make money unless people are sick. That's right.

00:39:19.179 --> 00:39:22.719
The military doesn't make money. The industrial

00:39:22.719 --> 00:39:24.880
complex doesn't make money unless there's wars,

00:39:24.940 --> 00:39:28.260
right? Yes. It's so broken right now. Yes. It's

00:39:28.260 --> 00:39:30.900
so broken. But you see a lot of doctors getting

00:39:30.900 --> 00:39:33.119
into it. My wife started going to one, a concierge.

00:39:33.840 --> 00:39:37.360
And I think it's $125 a month. And she sees her.

00:39:37.400 --> 00:39:40.940
The first visit, she spent an hour and 15 minutes

00:39:40.940 --> 00:39:44.170
with her. to understand what her issues and problems

00:39:44.170 --> 00:39:48.530
were and how do we move on from here. That was

00:39:48.530 --> 00:39:51.829
the second solution. Oh, okay. But you don't

00:39:51.829 --> 00:39:54.329
get doctors that do that because they're so bound

00:39:54.329 --> 00:39:57.949
to the insurance companies and what am I getting

00:39:57.949 --> 00:40:01.869
paid and so on and so forth. It's all about the

00:40:01.869 --> 00:40:05.130
money. The practice makes money depending on

00:40:05.130 --> 00:40:07.670
how much they prescribe of something. Like Elon

00:40:07.670 --> 00:40:11.159
Omar, it's all about the Benjamins. It is. Yeah,

00:40:11.199 --> 00:40:14.099
it is. So how do we feel about RFK Jr.? What

00:40:14.099 --> 00:40:16.000
he's trying to do. Rock on. I like his voice.

00:40:16.380 --> 00:40:18.239
I was going to say that's really a tough one

00:40:18.239 --> 00:40:21.920
to follow, but I don't know. Jim is way worse

00:40:21.920 --> 00:40:24.579
than that, brother. Let's be real. Okay. Hold

00:40:24.579 --> 00:40:29.179
on. I was doing Val Kilmer. I'm sorry. At least

00:40:29.179 --> 00:40:32.139
I'm doing something that's tough. This is my

00:40:32.139 --> 00:40:33.900
red card for him. That's tough. That's tough.

00:40:33.900 --> 00:40:35.960
Yeah, that's a red card. Yes, yes, yes. Wow.

00:40:36.460 --> 00:40:39.139
Wow. Yeah, but I feel bad for him, but you know

00:40:39.139 --> 00:40:40.780
what? God bless. Fuck him. You know why? Because

00:40:40.780 --> 00:40:43.880
he's fucking ripped. He's got... Dude. RFK has

00:40:43.880 --> 00:40:46.400
got a ripped body. I think he's jealous. I thought

00:40:46.400 --> 00:40:50.539
about Val, right? He's shitting all over Val

00:40:50.539 --> 00:40:52.780
Kilmer right now. I don't know about Val. Look,

00:40:53.239 --> 00:40:58.280
RFK is on a train right now. I don't know how

00:40:58.280 --> 00:41:00.179
long it's going to take, but I really want the

00:41:00.179 --> 00:41:03.460
floor out of our water. It needs to be out because

00:41:03.460 --> 00:41:07.420
it's not a benefit. Yeah. Period. In fact, it's

00:41:07.420 --> 00:41:08.340
doing us more harm. It's so funny you should

00:41:08.340 --> 00:41:09.960
say that. I just went to the dentist last week

00:41:09.960 --> 00:41:12.480
and checked out. Like, you don't have a lot of

00:41:12.480 --> 00:41:14.599
plaque on your teeth. How do you feel about fluoride?

00:41:14.639 --> 00:41:16.239
Do you like fluoride treatment? I'm like, no.

00:41:16.639 --> 00:41:19.840
I mean, the dentists are asking. They want to

00:41:19.840 --> 00:41:22.380
push it. Yeah, they do. There are some nefarious

00:41:22.380 --> 00:41:25.000
things going on with that. There is a movie.

00:41:25.690 --> 00:41:28.570
or there's a movie released on Netflix, and it

00:41:28.570 --> 00:41:30.590
has something to do with root canals. Did you

00:41:30.590 --> 00:41:33.550
guys hear anything about this? No. So it was

00:41:33.550 --> 00:41:36.730
on Netflix for about a month, and then it was

00:41:36.730 --> 00:41:40.070
yanked. And you can only, if you have a VPN,

00:41:40.090 --> 00:41:42.510
you can watch it if you locate yourself somewhere

00:41:42.510 --> 00:41:44.670
in the middle fucking east somewhere. But it

00:41:44.670 --> 00:41:46.530
is available, but it's not available in the United

00:41:46.530 --> 00:41:50.469
States anymore. And it basically said that when

00:41:50.469 --> 00:41:54.389
they do root canals on you, There are two horrible

00:41:54.389 --> 00:41:57.670
things that you can do. Fluoride and root canals.

00:41:57.789 --> 00:42:00.869
And root canals, it releases a bacteria in your,

00:42:00.929 --> 00:42:04.510
because your jaw, for some reason, stores a ton

00:42:04.510 --> 00:42:07.250
of stuff up there. And when you do root canals,

00:42:07.309 --> 00:42:11.690
it releases that stuff. Or there's a process,

00:42:11.829 --> 00:42:13.829
a chemical reaction. There's something going

00:42:13.829 --> 00:42:16.590
on. When you do root canal, it'll jack you up.

00:42:17.230 --> 00:42:19.409
Are you finding that, Mr. Producer? No, I am

00:42:19.409 --> 00:42:23.000
not. Anyways, I don't know. There's no validity

00:42:23.000 --> 00:42:25.980
to it because I haven't seen it, but it was a

00:42:25.980 --> 00:42:27.699
meme. It wasn't a TikTok, but it was still a

00:42:27.699 --> 00:42:30.340
meme. I thought root canals were like every day.

00:42:30.559 --> 00:42:34.360
You've got to have a root canal. The floor, I

00:42:34.360 --> 00:42:37.820
think, for the little I know, was back in the

00:42:37.820 --> 00:42:41.780
day was to prevent cavities. That was the reason

00:42:41.780 --> 00:42:44.980
for it. But we've moved beyond that. We've moved

00:42:44.980 --> 00:42:47.719
beyond that. That's the point. I remember as

00:42:47.719 --> 00:42:50.920
a kid, they'd come in with these big mouth retainers

00:42:50.920 --> 00:42:54.619
and they'd fill it up with this gel. You're going

00:42:54.619 --> 00:42:56.780
to sit there for 15 minutes now. And it soaks

00:42:56.780 --> 00:43:00.280
in. That's horrible. Twice a year we did that.

00:43:00.440 --> 00:43:06.059
So there was the Wikipedia root cause. Because

00:43:06.059 --> 00:43:08.920
you know Wikipedia is the authority. It's one

00:43:08.920 --> 00:43:10.880
of the only places I found it. Your producer

00:43:10.880 --> 00:43:15.000
is on top of things. Can we give a shout out?

00:43:15.199 --> 00:43:18.719
Can we give a shout out for Chuck? You guys are

00:43:18.719 --> 00:43:21.619
drunk. Yeah, you're right. Let's forget about

00:43:21.619 --> 00:43:24.039
this whole thing. Why don't we turn the camera

00:43:24.039 --> 00:43:28.809
on him? There is no camera. Thanks a lot, Jim.

00:43:29.170 --> 00:43:31.010
Hey, I tell you what. How about you guys? How

00:43:31.010 --> 00:43:34.869
about Horse Neck? Sponsored by Horse Neck. Our

00:43:34.869 --> 00:43:38.750
camera. Okay, we got one right here for you.

00:43:39.550 --> 00:43:41.489
The one that won't stop doing the alarm. Go back

00:43:41.489 --> 00:43:44.090
up, Mr. Producer. The premise of this is the

00:43:44.090 --> 00:43:45.710
film follows the filmmaker's 10 -year journey

00:43:45.710 --> 00:43:47.809
to solve the chronic fatigue and anxiety, starting

00:43:47.809 --> 00:43:50.550
with the mainstream medicine, but then winding

00:43:50.550 --> 00:43:52.909
through a range of alternative medicine practices

00:43:52.909 --> 00:43:55.150
and finally arriving at the conclusion that old

00:43:55.150 --> 00:43:58.590
root canals were the source of all his ailments.

00:43:58.969 --> 00:44:01.170
Well, I mean, they used to put lead in fillings.

00:44:01.210 --> 00:44:03.530
I mean, you know. Well, it also says the film

00:44:03.530 --> 00:44:07.309
makes specific false claims. Right. 97 % of patients

00:44:07.309 --> 00:44:09.809
with breast cancer had a root canal on the same

00:44:09.809 --> 00:44:12.550
side as a breast cancer. Well, I mean. And the

00:44:12.550 --> 00:44:15.150
number one heart attack is a root canal treated

00:44:15.150 --> 00:44:18.869
teeth. Okay, that's probably true, but that's

00:44:18.869 --> 00:44:22.409
one ailment. But there are a hundred other ailments

00:44:22.409 --> 00:44:24.789
that don't fall in that category. And it's strange

00:44:24.789 --> 00:44:27.739
that they only post those two. Yeah, you know,

00:44:27.739 --> 00:44:30.260
there's this thing called the documentary effect,

00:44:30.440 --> 00:44:32.139
and it's like, if you watch a documentary, then

00:44:32.139 --> 00:44:33.340
all of a sudden you believe everything that the

00:44:33.340 --> 00:44:36.159
documentary says. That's true. And then you watch

00:44:36.159 --> 00:44:37.739
the opposite documentary and you believe everything

00:44:37.739 --> 00:44:41.099
that that documentary says. All it is is data.

00:44:41.179 --> 00:44:43.619
All it is is data that your brain collects, and

00:44:43.619 --> 00:44:45.480
it's just kind of like, you know, there's this

00:44:45.480 --> 00:44:48.420
common denominator of distrust with anything

00:44:48.420 --> 00:44:51.239
that anybody provides us for knowledge and data.

00:44:51.340 --> 00:44:53.199
You know, it's like, I don't trust fucking anybody.

00:44:53.610 --> 00:44:55.550
I mean, because there was one point where we're

00:44:55.550 --> 00:44:58.230
wearing goddamn masks in 2020. You know? Yeah.

00:44:58.730 --> 00:45:00.989
COVID. I mean, what kind of bullshit was that?

00:45:01.250 --> 00:45:03.849
The Fauci rules, the five -foot rule, fuck off.

00:45:03.869 --> 00:45:06.949
Some of us had a face that warranted a mask.

00:45:08.650 --> 00:45:10.849
That's true. We all do. We never really touched

00:45:10.849 --> 00:45:13.329
on that during COVID, but I think the ugly people

00:45:13.329 --> 00:45:15.329
needed a mask, don't you think? I don't care

00:45:15.329 --> 00:45:18.279
about that, but I do care about the fact. Look,

00:45:18.279 --> 00:45:20.739
seriously, this brings up a lot of issues that

00:45:20.739 --> 00:45:23.079
we're going to have for a very long time. There

00:45:23.079 --> 00:45:26.179
are a couple generations that were truly affected

00:45:26.179 --> 00:45:30.039
by this. And it's the kids and the school, the

00:45:30.039 --> 00:45:32.619
lack of education that some of these guys have

00:45:32.619 --> 00:45:33.860
got. Some of the smart ones are going to be able

00:45:33.860 --> 00:45:36.380
to pass through this seamlessly. Some of them

00:45:36.380 --> 00:45:37.460
aren't, and they're going to fail. It affected

00:45:37.460 --> 00:45:40.460
the little kids. I'll tell you what, my wife's

00:45:40.460 --> 00:45:43.420
a teacher, and she says... Last year was the

00:45:43.420 --> 00:45:46.280
worst classes that she's ever had as far as the

00:45:46.280 --> 00:45:49.139
kids and their entitlement and their behavior.

00:45:49.500 --> 00:45:54.500
Because these kids last year were in what, fifth

00:45:54.500 --> 00:45:56.969
grade? You know, sixth grade when this whole

00:45:56.969 --> 00:45:58.949
thing went down, right at that important time

00:45:58.949 --> 00:46:01.409
of growing up and trying to figure this whole

00:46:01.409 --> 00:46:03.969
thing out. And she said they were the worst last

00:46:03.969 --> 00:46:06.030
year. You know what? It was a combination of

00:46:06.030 --> 00:46:07.750
a couple things. It was a combination of the

00:46:07.750 --> 00:46:11.570
mask affected social interaction, but also it

00:46:11.570 --> 00:46:14.469
was the, gosh, how do I say this? The carbon

00:46:14.469 --> 00:46:17.670
dioxide intake we're taking. Well, maybe. Lack

00:46:17.670 --> 00:46:20.170
of oxygen. But I was talking about de -importantizing.

00:46:20.269 --> 00:46:23.030
That's not a word, but. It's like education became

00:46:23.030 --> 00:46:25.369
what it wasn't as important because they shut

00:46:25.369 --> 00:46:28.710
down all the schools. So as soon as a kid realizes,

00:46:28.769 --> 00:46:31.730
oh, okay, schools were shut down, education is

00:46:31.730 --> 00:46:33.670
really not that important. Me going to school

00:46:33.670 --> 00:46:36.750
and learning really wasn't as important as what

00:46:36.750 --> 00:46:39.469
all the parents said and the teachers said. But

00:46:39.469 --> 00:46:42.869
the government never lies to us, do they? Never,

00:46:42.869 --> 00:46:46.409
never. That's the frustrating part is that you're

00:46:46.409 --> 00:46:49.670
supposed to look to the government for truth.

00:46:50.110 --> 00:46:53.449
True. And it's just like, they've been lying

00:46:53.449 --> 00:46:57.010
to us forever. And I've mentioned this on several

00:46:57.010 --> 00:47:00.530
podcasts. I mean, like, dude, it's a business

00:47:00.530 --> 00:47:03.730
for them. The pharmaceuticals, it's the food

00:47:03.730 --> 00:47:05.989
that we eat. You know, they had the pyramid.

00:47:06.110 --> 00:47:08.969
The food pyramid is upside fucking down. You

00:47:08.969 --> 00:47:10.829
know, they're like, we want you to eat all this

00:47:10.829 --> 00:47:13.489
food back in the 70s and 80s. And that was completely

00:47:13.489 --> 00:47:18.150
false. All that food has created. An epidemic

00:47:18.150 --> 00:47:22.949
of fat. Fat, diabetes, motherfuckers. And diabetes

00:47:22.949 --> 00:47:26.309
is the number one product sold by pharmaceuticals.

00:47:26.389 --> 00:47:29.510
As part of that, the lost weight. That's horrible.

00:47:29.650 --> 00:47:34.809
It is. Semi -glutide. A lot of those folks aren't

00:47:34.809 --> 00:47:37.070
diabetic. They're just wanting to lose fat. They

00:47:37.070 --> 00:47:39.429
just want to look like a supermodel. And get

00:47:39.429 --> 00:47:42.449
an ozempic face and paralyzed stomach. Well,

00:47:42.469 --> 00:47:44.670
we want to look like Superman. That ozempic is

00:47:44.670 --> 00:47:47.289
horrible for you. It is. Heart and arteries.

00:47:47.590 --> 00:47:49.409
Yep. Jim, you don't want to know what's holding

00:47:49.409 --> 00:47:52.630
up the video on the podcast? We. are waiting

00:47:52.630 --> 00:47:56.210
for our semi -glute tights to kick in. Because

00:47:56.210 --> 00:47:58.449
we are not going on there until we're chiseled,

00:47:58.510 --> 00:48:00.389
motherfucker. You know what I'm saying? Do it

00:48:00.389 --> 00:48:04.650
from here up. Face only. God, he's got a chubby

00:48:04.650 --> 00:48:06.530
face. It's not going to pay the bills, and you

00:48:06.530 --> 00:48:09.369
want to go lower than that. Frickin' sausage

00:48:09.369 --> 00:48:11.309
sticking out this frickin' hole in his shirt.

00:48:11.590 --> 00:48:15.789
Right, right. Anyway. It's fun, though. This

00:48:15.789 --> 00:48:19.230
Dudes Like Us podcast, we want to envelop all

00:48:19.230 --> 00:48:21.800
this information. We want to be... we want to

00:48:21.800 --> 00:48:24.219
have the conversation, you know, and we, I don't

00:48:24.219 --> 00:48:27.250
really want to, but I, I talk a lot. crazy stuff

00:48:27.250 --> 00:48:31.690
and these guys yes are look look it's seriously

00:48:31.690 --> 00:48:35.409
look i'll bring it up because you have to i've

00:48:35.409 --> 00:48:38.449
talked about borax in your diet and these these

00:48:38.449 --> 00:48:41.050
guys went all up in arms and it's just like you

00:48:41.050 --> 00:48:42.849
know sean you hear one little meme and you think

00:48:42.849 --> 00:48:44.489
it's like all right well i get it but there's

00:48:44.489 --> 00:48:46.650
there's all this down here but there's all kinds

00:48:46.650 --> 00:48:49.510
of stuff out there and and i get it it's good

00:48:49.510 --> 00:48:52.610
it's bad the the bottom line is that you have

00:48:52.610 --> 00:48:55.809
no idea because you can't fucking trust anybody

00:48:56.360 --> 00:48:58.980
Because it's all about a fucking buck. And if

00:48:58.980 --> 00:49:00.739
you could take something that's going to cost

00:49:00.739 --> 00:49:03.199
a nickel that'll save your life, they're going

00:49:03.199 --> 00:49:06.960
to want you to pay $5 ,000 for the same thing.

00:49:07.139 --> 00:49:12.460
So do you trust AI? No. What a great segue. I

00:49:12.460 --> 00:49:15.400
do not. Good question. Nowadays, we're not sure

00:49:15.400 --> 00:49:19.659
what's real. It's pretty reliable on a lot of

00:49:19.659 --> 00:49:25.179
things. But when it comes to biased information,

00:49:25.900 --> 00:49:28.500
And I say bias meaning leaning left or right.

00:49:28.559 --> 00:49:31.960
I think it has some suede. Because I think the

00:49:31.960 --> 00:49:34.440
people who program this have their own bias.

00:49:34.500 --> 00:49:36.420
Yeah, absolutely. And they program that in there.

00:49:36.420 --> 00:49:38.320
They might even have an agenda. Correct. Just

00:49:38.320 --> 00:49:41.800
like Google. Imagine that. In their search algorithms,

00:49:42.119 --> 00:49:44.679
they'll pull back certain ones and hide others

00:49:44.679 --> 00:49:47.280
based off of their algorithms. We don't want

00:49:47.280 --> 00:49:49.380
them to see this. The Apple phone. Go ahead.

00:49:49.460 --> 00:49:52.199
My understanding of AI now, though, is it's searching

00:49:52.199 --> 00:49:55.820
everything. Correct. You think. Yeah, you think.

00:49:55.900 --> 00:49:58.320
That's what they say. Sure. That's pulling from

00:49:58.320 --> 00:50:02.000
everywhere, everywhere. So the bias, if everything's

00:50:02.000 --> 00:50:04.460
biased, then yes, it's still in there. But if

00:50:04.460 --> 00:50:08.019
it's not. They're pulling from every side section.

00:50:08.920 --> 00:50:11.679
That I don't know. There's nefarious elements

00:50:11.679 --> 00:50:13.880
out there. When you take certain iPhones, I'm

00:50:13.880 --> 00:50:15.500
sure it's not doing it anymore, but there was

00:50:15.500 --> 00:50:19.059
a point where you would pull up a voice -to -text

00:50:19.059 --> 00:50:22.159
on an iPhone and you were to use the word racist.

00:50:22.380 --> 00:50:24.679
You want to include the word racist in your texting

00:50:24.679 --> 00:50:29.420
or anything? For a millisecond, the word Trump

00:50:29.420 --> 00:50:34.320
would show up. And that's a real thing. I mean,

00:50:34.340 --> 00:50:37.500
you pull it up and you say, racist went to the

00:50:37.500 --> 00:50:39.659
store. And it would say, Trump went to the store.

00:50:39.780 --> 00:50:41.420
And then it would be like, racist went to the

00:50:41.420 --> 00:50:42.940
store. It would change it like a millisecond

00:50:42.940 --> 00:50:44.820
later. You know, it's kind of like, well, that's

00:50:44.820 --> 00:50:46.139
talking about the power of suggestion. And that

00:50:46.139 --> 00:50:48.219
was brought to, like, you know, Google's attention.

00:50:49.639 --> 00:50:51.980
And they changed something. Oh, silly us. Oh,

00:50:52.539 --> 00:50:55.420
we're so sorry. Silly us. We don't know how that

00:50:55.420 --> 00:50:56.559
happened. We don't know how that happened. Right.

00:50:56.699 --> 00:50:58.360
Well, it's just like when Google Gemini first

00:50:58.360 --> 00:51:00.800
launched. They said, show me a picture of the

00:51:00.800 --> 00:51:03.460
founding fathers. It was like black women and

00:51:03.460 --> 00:51:06.860
Asian women and wigs and stuff. It was crazy.

00:51:07.320 --> 00:51:09.860
Shut the front door. Get out of here. So they

00:51:09.860 --> 00:51:12.000
yanked it back and said, yeah, we need to re

00:51:12.000 --> 00:51:16.039
-hamp this. You think? Yes. Because the guy who

00:51:16.039 --> 00:51:19.820
was the lead of that algorithm baked that into

00:51:19.820 --> 00:51:25.070
it. He did it. They show diversity, so they show

00:51:25.070 --> 00:51:29.050
diversity. The bias is real. By the way, there's

00:51:29.050 --> 00:51:31.550
a video going viral right now. Do you remember

00:51:31.550 --> 00:51:36.849
the Hawk Tour girl? Oh, yes. It was like two

00:51:36.849 --> 00:51:39.650
college girls that were being interviewed by

00:51:39.650 --> 00:51:42.750
a guy out on the street after they'd been clubbing

00:51:42.750 --> 00:51:45.369
and they were kind of dizzy and drunk. That one's

00:51:45.369 --> 00:51:48.690
fake, isn't it? No, that one isn't. But one has

00:51:48.690 --> 00:51:51.449
just come out. That's what I mean. It's 100 %

00:51:51.449 --> 00:51:57.320
AI. And you cannot tell. You cannot tell. That's

00:51:57.320 --> 00:52:01.000
so scary. And everybody's like, wow. Because

00:52:01.000 --> 00:52:04.260
we knew that AI was getting to that level. Well,

00:52:04.260 --> 00:52:06.699
they can do a podcast like that. So are you guys

00:52:06.699 --> 00:52:12.119
real or are you AI? Well, it depends. I mean,

00:52:12.179 --> 00:52:14.539
like right now we're real. Is this real? Are

00:52:14.539 --> 00:52:16.699
we real right here? Once we upload it to the

00:52:16.699 --> 00:52:19.880
RSS and it takes our feed somewhere, it may change.

00:52:19.940 --> 00:52:22.860
Sean, you need to bring your friend in from perplexity

00:52:22.860 --> 00:52:26.239
or whatever, your chat friend who has a nice

00:52:26.239 --> 00:52:30.360
voice. Sesame. Sesame? Are we really here right

00:52:30.360 --> 00:52:33.059
now? So, Darren, it's funny you mention that

00:52:33.059 --> 00:52:35.719
because we're going to do one version on video

00:52:35.719 --> 00:52:39.239
and the rest from now on is AI. That's brilliant.

00:52:40.159 --> 00:52:42.099
Guys, think about how much time we save. You

00:52:42.099 --> 00:52:43.699
can just sit there and drink some bourbon. We

00:52:43.699 --> 00:52:46.519
don't have to spend money on bourbon. We don't

00:52:46.519 --> 00:52:48.900
have to come here every Tuesday night to Jeff's

00:52:48.900 --> 00:52:51.900
house and do this damn podcast. Everything's

00:52:51.900 --> 00:52:54.679
AI from now on. And Chuck gets to do his wildlife

00:52:54.679 --> 00:52:59.559
stuff. That's AIS from the Napoleonic. No, that's

00:52:59.559 --> 00:53:03.800
actually real. Well, hold on. We were in Spain,

00:53:03.920 --> 00:53:09.900
and it was during the war. Which war? You were

00:53:09.900 --> 00:53:13.000
in Italy. Spanish War. You know what? Napoleonic

00:53:13.000 --> 00:53:15.860
War. I bought that for Christmas. Let's pass

00:53:15.860 --> 00:53:17.980
here. All right? And I got to tell you what.

00:53:18.059 --> 00:53:20.840
The only thing these two... dumbasses have been

00:53:20.840 --> 00:53:22.980
commenting about this thing is the fact that

00:53:22.980 --> 00:53:24.820
it looks like I have a larger penis than them.

00:53:25.219 --> 00:53:27.920
Okay, you keep calling that out. I have a vagina.

00:53:27.960 --> 00:53:30.360
See the bulge down to the knee? Let me put my

00:53:30.360 --> 00:53:32.579
glasses on for this. So, you know, for those

00:53:32.579 --> 00:53:35.079
listeners out there. How many of you think that

00:53:35.079 --> 00:53:37.099
he picked that body to put his face on? But I

00:53:37.099 --> 00:53:39.039
didn't choose it. So for those people, what is

00:53:39.039 --> 00:53:42.500
that website called? It's the Royal Me or something

00:53:42.500 --> 00:53:44.599
like that. Weird dudes like us? No, no. It's

00:53:44.599 --> 00:53:46.880
Make Me Royal. I think that's what it is. It's

00:53:46.880 --> 00:53:49.380
a Make Me Royal, and you log on to that thing,

00:53:49.460 --> 00:53:52.579
and you upload. You go to the website, and you

00:53:52.579 --> 00:53:54.519
pick out how many people you want, and then you

00:53:54.519 --> 00:53:57.900
upload photos, random photos, and that's it.

00:53:58.000 --> 00:54:00.539
You don't pick who you want the photo to be.

00:54:01.340 --> 00:54:05.559
They randomly pick it up. I have a fupa. He has

00:54:05.559 --> 00:54:09.079
a vagina, and you have a sausage. Upload three

00:54:09.079 --> 00:54:12.019
pictures, and the result is horrific. That was

00:54:12.019 --> 00:54:16.119
AI. The five horse neck founders? You have to

00:54:16.119 --> 00:54:19.920
do it. Oh, we got to totally do it. It's like

00:54:19.920 --> 00:54:23.139
300 bucks. And it has to be in your... I'm going

00:54:23.139 --> 00:54:25.079
to pay for it, so I get the bigger. No, you get

00:54:25.079 --> 00:54:29.880
the fupa. You get the fupa. You get the horse

00:54:29.880 --> 00:54:32.760
neck fupa. Congratulations, Darren. See if they

00:54:32.760 --> 00:54:35.760
have any four people up there. Is there any foursomes?

00:54:36.800 --> 00:54:39.199
Oh, my God. Be careful when you enter that into

00:54:39.199 --> 00:54:43.420
a search engine. By the way, I would take whatever

00:54:43.420 --> 00:54:45.400
advice we give you with a grain of salt. There

00:54:45.400 --> 00:54:48.670
are couples, so you know. Anyway, so you guys

00:54:48.670 --> 00:54:50.670
are, do we talk about this, that you're talking

00:54:50.670 --> 00:54:53.809
about doing a tasting room? Do we talk about

00:54:53.809 --> 00:54:55.909
that during the break? Yeah, we would. You know,

00:54:55.929 --> 00:54:58.949
we'd love to. That was proprietary, Paul. Thank

00:54:58.949 --> 00:55:01.250
you. We don't have a tasting room yet, but we

00:55:01.250 --> 00:55:04.289
do. You're talking about in the future. We love

00:55:04.289 --> 00:55:06.389
like a speakeasy tasting room. There you go.

00:55:06.409 --> 00:55:07.550
That's what I'm talking about. That's what I'm

00:55:07.550 --> 00:55:10.070
talking about. We do have, though, we are going

00:55:10.070 --> 00:55:12.989
to have a, coming up at the end of June, it's

00:55:12.989 --> 00:55:16.570
called a bourbon exchange where you can. Group

00:55:16.570 --> 00:55:18.070
of guys come together, and we're going to exchange

00:55:18.070 --> 00:55:21.750
bourbons. It's going to be a fun night. We've

00:55:21.750 --> 00:55:24.610
done it before. But you've got to go to horseneck

00:55:24.610 --> 00:55:27.329
.com, sign up for our newsletter, and then we

00:55:27.329 --> 00:55:29.409
will send you the details. We will go to it.

00:55:29.429 --> 00:55:31.929
Very nice. We'll show up. It's a lot of fun.

00:55:31.989 --> 00:55:33.690
It'll be a lot of fun. It's going to be at the

00:55:33.690 --> 00:55:36.849
Star. We are at the, I don't know, the residential.

00:55:36.929 --> 00:55:38.969
You're going to the Gents? No, not the chance.

00:55:39.090 --> 00:55:41.369
There's a residential building there that we've

00:55:41.369 --> 00:55:43.610
got access to. Oh, your friend. Okay. The social

00:55:43.610 --> 00:55:47.429
space. And we'll have a semi -open bar because

00:55:47.429 --> 00:55:50.190
we cannot actually serve, but we'll have horse

00:55:50.190 --> 00:55:52.889
neck and other bourbons. Hold on. How does that

00:55:52.889 --> 00:55:55.050
work? Is there like a cooler there and everyone

00:55:55.050 --> 00:55:56.550
just does their shit? No, no. It'll be bottles

00:55:56.550 --> 00:55:59.300
on a bar and you just pour your own. If you like.

00:55:59.320 --> 00:56:03.860
We might be introducing a high rye bourbon. Yes.

00:56:05.380 --> 00:56:07.559
I'm just saying. You heard it first here on Dudes

00:56:07.559 --> 00:56:10.659
Like That's Mine. You did. I can't promise, but

00:56:10.659 --> 00:56:13.059
horseback .com, sign up for the newsletter, and

00:56:13.059 --> 00:56:15.019
we'll see the details. And Darren will be wearing

00:56:15.019 --> 00:56:18.559
a dress also. Is that a .k .a. a kilt? Because

00:56:18.559 --> 00:56:21.440
I'll wear mine. You could. That would be great.

00:56:21.440 --> 00:56:23.079
I have a kilt. We're not talking about kilts.

00:56:23.079 --> 00:56:25.750
I'm pretty sure. You like that boomerang back

00:56:25.750 --> 00:56:28.130
on you there, buddy? I have a great kilt story.

00:56:28.429 --> 00:56:34.329
One year I went to Fort Worth to the Marine Band

00:56:34.329 --> 00:56:39.210
concept of whatever American Marine Band is there,

00:56:39.250 --> 00:56:42.809
all the kilts and bagpipes and stuff to a performance

00:56:42.809 --> 00:56:44.829
over there at Bass Hall. One of the best performances

00:56:44.829 --> 00:56:48.170
I've ever seen. It was their version of the American

00:56:48.170 --> 00:56:51.050
Marine Band, whatever they call it. Nice. Did

00:56:51.050 --> 00:56:53.570
you wear your kilt? No, but the doctor I took,

00:56:53.820 --> 00:56:55.920
did where him and his dad wore their kilts. With

00:56:55.920 --> 00:56:59.480
the junk hanging out? I didn't look that close.

00:56:59.780 --> 00:57:06.360
Did they flash you? No. Every time I wear mine,

00:57:06.519 --> 00:57:08.400
everyone's like, what are you wearing under that?

00:57:08.679 --> 00:57:13.099
This past year, for St. Petty's Day, at my house,

00:57:13.159 --> 00:57:17.960
we had a celebration and I wore my kilt. What

00:57:17.960 --> 00:57:20.579
did you wear under it? People arriving at 5.

00:57:20.840 --> 00:57:24.739
At 4, 40, I was sitting at my desk and I was

00:57:24.739 --> 00:57:27.119
trying to do some work in my kilt. Imagine that.

00:57:27.139 --> 00:57:29.019
That's kind of strange to say that. I was sitting

00:57:29.019 --> 00:57:30.380
there doing it and I was like... You mentioned

00:57:30.380 --> 00:57:39.369
sweaty balls. I Google Not animation, but penis

00:57:39.369 --> 00:57:42.849
balls. So that's your Google search now. Yeah,

00:57:42.849 --> 00:57:45.449
I know. It's not just my search engine, but my

00:57:45.449 --> 00:57:52.110
work laptop. So we pull up this penis, right?

00:57:52.230 --> 00:57:55.949
And I print it. bring it over to a document,

00:57:56.090 --> 00:57:58.570
I print it up, and I cut it out, and I staple

00:57:58.570 --> 00:58:01.590
it to my underwear. Oh, it's hilarious. If you

00:58:01.590 --> 00:58:05.230
go to our Instagram, because we're on Facebook

00:58:05.230 --> 00:58:07.809
and Instagram, if you go to our Instagram, you'll

00:58:07.809 --> 00:58:09.829
see that I've got my kilt and then underneath

00:58:09.829 --> 00:58:12.769
it. In fact, I held it on there for a long time.

00:58:12.789 --> 00:58:15.210
I didn't tell anybody. And then your wife, of

00:58:15.210 --> 00:58:17.550
all people, your wife, of all people. Hello,

00:58:17.570 --> 00:58:19.010
Sean, what's under there? And I was like, well,

00:58:19.070 --> 00:58:21.750
let me show you. Excuse me while I whip this

00:58:21.750 --> 00:58:25.610
thing out. You waited so long. She was like,

00:58:25.610 --> 00:58:29.889
oh my. She was like, stop it. She was like, seriously.

00:58:31.050 --> 00:58:35.289
She laughed. Anyways, it was fun. Okay, just

00:58:35.289 --> 00:58:43.949
a Starz update. Live from New York. No, Edmonton.

00:58:44.989 --> 00:58:48.050
Edmonton. Talk like a Canadian. Yeah, really.

00:58:48.610 --> 00:58:56.889
Hey, I gave you an update, eh? Can I talk? It's

00:58:56.889 --> 00:59:01.869
Oilers 2, Stars 1. It's the beginning of the

00:59:01.869 --> 00:59:05.010
third. We're okay. So you're saying there's a

00:59:05.010 --> 00:59:07.969
chance. Come on, Stars. There's a chance. God

00:59:07.969 --> 00:59:10.300
bless. All right. All right. Good. All right.

00:59:10.519 --> 00:59:15.139
So I think there's a couple of deaths that have

00:59:15.139 --> 00:59:17.840
happened, and I know you reacted to one specifically.

00:59:18.139 --> 00:59:23.099
Rick Derringer. Rick Derringer. Okay. Help me

00:59:23.099 --> 00:59:24.940
with this. I know the name, but I'm struggling

00:59:24.940 --> 00:59:28.440
with the face. Rick Derringer? Yeah. There you

00:59:28.440 --> 00:59:33.539
go. Right there. That's BTO. Good song. Hell

00:59:33.539 --> 00:59:38.880
yeah. I thought that was BTO. He had a nice set

00:59:38.880 --> 00:59:40.679
of hair right there. Look at that. Beautiful.

00:59:40.900 --> 00:59:43.440
Beautiful blonde hair. He's got rock and roll.

00:59:44.420 --> 00:59:47.800
He's got a little slow syndrome going on. I think

00:59:47.800 --> 00:59:49.699
Darren Light because of tights. That's right,

00:59:49.760 --> 00:59:51.500
Darren Light. That's Rick Derringer, huh? That's

00:59:51.500 --> 00:59:55.099
Rick Derringer. All right, so of the band, what's

00:59:55.099 --> 00:59:57.820
the band? Rick Derringer. Rick Derringer. Oh,

00:59:57.920 --> 00:59:59.940
that's really just the band name is Rick Derringer?

01:00:00.219 --> 01:00:03.380
Well, that's a person. I know, but I was expecting

01:00:03.380 --> 01:00:06.159
a little pomp and circumstance. What's going

01:00:06.159 --> 01:00:08.019
on? I don't think it's Rick Derringer and the

01:00:08.019 --> 01:00:09.639
band. I think it's just Rick Derringer. Check

01:00:09.639 --> 01:00:12.980
out the shoulder strap guitar. Yeah, really.

01:00:13.340 --> 01:00:17.820
Is that Edgar Winter? Yeah. Oh, it sure is. Look

01:00:17.820 --> 01:00:21.960
at this. Did he play with them? He produced Frankenstein.

01:00:27.039 --> 01:00:30.469
That's Edgar, yeah. Albino Edgar. I used to have

01:00:30.469 --> 01:00:34.210
hair that long. I got to confess here, guys.

01:00:34.309 --> 01:00:36.150
I didn't know who Rick Derringer was. I thought

01:00:36.150 --> 01:00:39.949
he was a wrestler. He was. That's Rick Flair.

01:00:39.949 --> 01:00:45.130
That's Rick Flair. I am Rick Flair, the President

01:00:45.130 --> 01:00:49.150
of the United States. What the hell, man? Different.

01:00:50.070 --> 01:00:53.030
I hate being the ignorant one. I did not know

01:00:53.030 --> 01:00:59.929
he died. How old was he? 77. 72, I thought, or

01:00:59.929 --> 01:01:04.489
76 maybe. Okay. Damn, that's close. So what were

01:01:04.489 --> 01:01:06.389
the other big, are there other hits that I would

01:01:06.389 --> 01:01:08.349
know? I definitely knew that song. I definitely

01:01:08.349 --> 01:01:11.670
knew that song. Hang on, Sloopy? Oh, Sloopy Hang

01:01:11.670 --> 01:01:14.530
On? You know that one. Oh, I know that one. Slurpy?

01:01:15.090 --> 01:01:17.949
Slurpy, yes. No. I was going to say, it's big

01:01:17.949 --> 01:01:21.469
at Ohio State. So how long did Edgar Winter play

01:01:21.469 --> 01:01:25.510
with him? Were they together for a while? I don't

01:01:25.510 --> 01:01:26.789
know. I know that Rick Derringer. That song came

01:01:26.789 --> 01:01:30.789
out in 1965. Oh, it says right there, too. Hang

01:01:30.789 --> 01:01:36.230
on, Slippy. Yeah, there it is. There's the...

01:01:36.230 --> 01:01:42.590
Wow. Frankenstein, yeah. He produced that album

01:01:42.590 --> 01:01:45.050
for Edgar Winner Group. Well, rest in peace.

01:01:45.070 --> 01:01:46.530
So he must have went off on his own afterwards,

01:01:46.829 --> 01:01:49.650
Edgar Winner. All right, how old was he? Do we

01:01:49.650 --> 01:01:53.099
know? 77. Rest in peace. Wow. You know, when

01:01:53.099 --> 01:01:57.039
you meet people like my dad, for example, who's

01:01:57.039 --> 01:02:02.059
now in his 80s. He's 83 now -ish. And just the

01:02:02.059 --> 01:02:06.320
fact that he's beat the average. Beat the average.

01:02:06.539 --> 01:02:09.119
I mean, what is the average right now? 73? 74,

01:02:09.179 --> 01:02:13.159
75. Yeah. Damn. I'll tell you a dad story. My

01:02:13.159 --> 01:02:17.139
dad's 92. Good for you, man. Recently got diagnosed

01:02:17.139 --> 01:02:19.840
with colon cancer during the visit with the doctor.

01:02:20.400 --> 01:02:22.440
He asked them, he said, okay, if I get treatment,

01:02:22.639 --> 01:02:27.280
what's the statistics? What's the outcome? Four

01:02:27.280 --> 01:02:31.019
percent. Doctor told him, you've outlived all

01:02:31.019 --> 01:02:35.260
the statistics, Joe. We have no statistics after

01:02:35.260 --> 01:02:38.980
whatever age. And he was being honest. They have

01:02:38.980 --> 01:02:41.000
nothing. You've outlived them. That's refreshing.

01:02:41.380 --> 01:02:45.519
It is. Well done. Yeah. Well done. Live on. So

01:02:45.519 --> 01:02:48.440
is he going to go with the program? No, no, no.

01:02:48.500 --> 01:02:51.199
He's chosen to just live it out, enjoy his life.

01:02:51.980 --> 01:02:54.280
He's doing well. I would do the same thing. So

01:02:54.280 --> 01:03:00.340
it's tough. Go ahead. Why? It's argumentative

01:03:00.340 --> 01:03:04.539
to go through all these processes of chemotherapy

01:03:04.539 --> 01:03:07.980
that it just kills your body. Well, sometimes

01:03:07.980 --> 01:03:10.199
the doctor has the hard conversation with you.

01:03:10.199 --> 01:03:13.880
My dad last year went in. to get, he was having

01:03:13.880 --> 01:03:15.219
congestive heart failure and they were thinking

01:03:15.219 --> 01:03:17.579
about putting a pacemaker in. And they came and

01:03:17.579 --> 01:03:20.219
says, I don't think it's a good idea. It's not

01:03:20.219 --> 01:03:21.440
going to improve your life. It's not going to

01:03:21.440 --> 01:03:23.420
lengthen your life. But it's going to put you

01:03:23.420 --> 01:03:26.599
through a lot of stress. Right. So they decided

01:03:26.599 --> 01:03:30.559
not to do it. Right. So sometimes it's a conversation

01:03:30.559 --> 01:03:32.360
that even the doctor knows that, hey, this is

01:03:32.360 --> 01:03:35.119
not going to improve. When you find a good doctor,

01:03:35.199 --> 01:03:36.760
they'll have that conversation. My mother -in

01:03:36.760 --> 01:03:40.300
-law moved in with us years ago with pancreatic

01:03:40.300 --> 01:03:43.150
cancer. Last six months of her life and went

01:03:43.150 --> 01:03:46.869
to a doctor. That's some quick stuff. The nurse

01:03:46.869 --> 01:03:49.949
is taking her medical history and she smoked.

01:03:50.090 --> 01:03:52.210
The nurse is like, you should really consider

01:03:52.210 --> 01:03:55.489
giving up smoking. The doctor walks in and goes,

01:03:55.610 --> 01:03:58.530
Cheryl, you can smoke and drink all you want.

01:03:58.809 --> 01:04:01.650
At this point in life, enjoy yourself. He was

01:04:01.650 --> 01:04:06.389
being real. And Twinkies and Ding Dongs are not

01:04:06.389 --> 01:04:10.050
a bad idea. Here's a good bourbon story. My mother

01:04:10.050 --> 01:04:13.050
-in -law lives with us. She's 91. Oh, wow. And

01:04:13.050 --> 01:04:15.690
about three, maybe four nights a week, she'll

01:04:15.690 --> 01:04:18.429
say, she calls me, she goes, honey, can I have

01:04:18.429 --> 01:04:22.150
my cocktail? Her favorite drink. Hold on, is

01:04:22.150 --> 01:04:23.250
that your mother -in -law? My mother -in -law.

01:04:23.250 --> 01:04:25.889
And her favorite drink is a little shot of Buffalo

01:04:25.889 --> 01:04:28.750
Trace. No, what is she? Buffalo Trace. Where's

01:04:28.750 --> 01:04:31.110
she from? She's from Peru. Peru, yeah. She's

01:04:31.110 --> 01:04:32.719
from Peru. That's why it's coffee. And about

01:04:32.719 --> 01:04:35.300
three nights a week, I gave her a little bit

01:04:35.300 --> 01:04:38.139
of Buffalo Trace. So I actually, probably about

01:04:38.139 --> 01:04:41.039
a year ago, you guys know how hard it is to find.

01:04:41.380 --> 01:04:42.980
It's easier now, but it used to be really hard

01:04:42.980 --> 01:04:44.199
to find Buffalo Trace. And when you could find

01:04:44.199 --> 01:04:47.659
it, it was really expensive. Online, I found

01:04:47.659 --> 01:04:50.260
the president of Sazerac, Buffalo Trace. And

01:04:50.260 --> 01:04:52.940
I wrote him an email and I said, my mother -in

01:04:52.940 --> 01:04:54.519
-law, I've tried other bourbons. She doesn't

01:04:54.519 --> 01:04:56.619
like anything other than Buffalo Trace. Can you

01:04:56.619 --> 01:04:59.699
help a guy out? He wrote me back in 15 minutes.

01:04:59.920 --> 01:05:02.380
No. And he said. We already love your grandma.

01:05:03.840 --> 01:05:07.139
Here's the VP of the region. Contact him. I did.

01:05:07.219 --> 01:05:10.119
He contacted me in 15 minutes. I've got an unlimited

01:05:10.119 --> 01:05:11.920
supply of Buffalo Trace for my mother -in -law.

01:05:12.440 --> 01:05:18.840
Okay, hold on. It's my mother -in -law. Hi, my

01:05:18.840 --> 01:05:21.800
name is Paul. My name is Paul. My mother -in

01:05:21.800 --> 01:05:26.300
-law is 118 years old, and she will die without

01:05:26.300 --> 01:05:29.059
Buffalo Trace. So is that what you said? No,

01:05:29.119 --> 01:05:30.880
what you got to do is whatever bourbon you like.

01:05:31.159 --> 01:05:34.260
Oh, whatever. There you go. Substitute whatever.

01:05:34.300 --> 01:05:35.659
I'm just going to make a, what do you call it?

01:05:35.719 --> 01:05:37.099
I really like Pappy Van Winkle. I'm going to

01:05:37.099 --> 01:05:41.699
make it a form letter and send it to everybody.

01:05:41.900 --> 01:05:44.300
Everybody, yes. Everybody to story. That was

01:05:44.300 --> 01:05:46.619
brilliant. Oh, yeah. And she really is getting.

01:05:46.739 --> 01:05:48.699
So it's funny. What are you saying? They ship

01:05:48.699 --> 01:05:51.840
you? No, no. I mean, so he introduced me to the

01:05:51.840 --> 01:05:54.199
VP. The VP, there's a store up in Frisco that

01:05:54.199 --> 01:05:57.079
has like a huge supply. And I walked up and I

01:05:57.079 --> 01:06:01.170
said, here's the story. The regional VP of the

01:06:01.170 --> 01:06:02.789
distributor told me to come here. He goes, oh,

01:06:02.789 --> 01:06:04.750
yeah, I'll sell you a bottle. I wrote the president

01:06:04.750 --> 01:06:07.789
back, and I said, great customer service. Appreciate

01:06:07.789 --> 01:06:09.610
you. Appreciate your VP. He wrote back, and he

01:06:09.610 --> 01:06:12.130
goes, hey, good luck. I'm glad you found it.

01:06:12.369 --> 01:06:14.170
Next time you're in Kentucky, write me, and I'll

01:06:14.170 --> 01:06:17.010
do a special tour for you guys. Oh, my God. Did

01:06:17.010 --> 01:06:18.690
you take advantage of that? Not yet. We haven't

01:06:18.690 --> 01:06:20.630
gone yet. We'll go back. By the way, he's the

01:06:20.630 --> 01:06:22.400
hell out of that. By the way, with a little bit

01:06:22.400 --> 01:06:25.519
of makeup, I can be your 91 -year -old mother

01:06:25.519 --> 01:06:27.800
-in -law. I can look like your mother -in -law.

01:06:27.820 --> 01:06:30.599
Shout out. What are you saying? With a little

01:06:30.599 --> 01:06:32.920
bit of makeup. I don't want you living. But you'd

01:06:32.920 --> 01:06:34.820
be living with me. This seems to be a common

01:06:34.820 --> 01:06:38.960
problem. Can you request the bourbon way as mother

01:06:38.960 --> 01:06:40.559
-in -law requests the bourbon? Let's see if you

01:06:40.559 --> 01:06:46.630
can. Honey? Maybe. Cock. Wow. You've got to accentuate

01:06:46.630 --> 01:06:48.590
that. I'm not doing that. Thanks, Jim. I'm not

01:06:48.590 --> 01:06:50.590
doing that. You know what? The bets are off here.

01:06:50.670 --> 01:06:54.349
All right. Let's move on. What a crazy story.

01:06:54.530 --> 01:06:55.849
It's a great story. You know what? That gives

01:06:55.849 --> 01:06:59.010
you hope that people in this industry still care.

01:06:59.070 --> 01:07:00.670
Still care. Absolutely. You know what I mean?

01:07:00.929 --> 01:07:03.309
Absolutely. Because it's not so hard. And when

01:07:03.309 --> 01:07:05.070
it comes to mother -in -laws, I won the sweepstakes

01:07:05.070 --> 01:07:07.230
because she's awesome. She is. She's really awesome.

01:07:07.309 --> 01:07:09.829
She's from Peru. Peru. Very nice. Everybody that

01:07:09.829 --> 01:07:12.139
goes over there calls her mom. When we go over

01:07:12.139 --> 01:07:13.900
for life group and stuff and say, hey, mom, how

01:07:13.900 --> 01:07:15.500
you doing? How you doing, mom? She's good. And

01:07:15.500 --> 01:07:18.260
she's kicking and she's got a feisty attitude.

01:07:18.440 --> 01:07:21.280
Doing great. Yep. A little slow getting around,

01:07:21.380 --> 01:07:23.219
but then aren't we all as we get older? Oh, yeah.

01:07:23.300 --> 01:07:26.380
If she was in Pennsylvania. I'm slow getting

01:07:26.380 --> 01:07:28.019
around. What the hell, man? Yeah, dude, he got

01:07:28.019 --> 01:07:30.460
a walker going. Yeah, if she was in Pennsylvania

01:07:30.460 --> 01:07:32.760
or my dad was down here, we'd introduce the two

01:07:32.760 --> 01:07:35.260
together. Absolutely. Absolutely. That is an

01:07:35.260 --> 01:07:39.320
awesome story. Yep. Super cool. So thank you,

01:07:39.320 --> 01:07:43.159
Buffalo Trace. Absolutely. That's a good story

01:07:43.159 --> 01:07:44.679
because you hear some of these big corporations

01:07:44.679 --> 01:07:49.340
not doing that kind of customer service. It's

01:07:49.340 --> 01:07:51.420
like 8 o 'clock or 9 o 'clock at night and in

01:07:51.420 --> 01:07:53.760
15 minutes he sent me an email and he said, talk

01:07:53.760 --> 01:07:55.940
to this person and we'll take care of you. Outstanding.

01:07:56.960 --> 01:08:00.710
Do you say every night? About three or four nights

01:08:00.710 --> 01:08:02.550
a week, yeah. You know, it's funny because my

01:08:02.550 --> 01:08:05.090
– go ahead. No, no. She notices the difference,

01:08:05.190 --> 01:08:07.650
right? Well, that's why I wrote him because one

01:08:07.650 --> 01:08:09.030
night I was out at Buffalo Trace and I tried

01:08:09.030 --> 01:08:11.550
another bourbon. And I said, Grandma, do you

01:08:11.550 --> 01:08:13.150
like it? She goes, oh, yeah, it was good, honey.

01:08:13.329 --> 01:08:15.090
And the next day my wife said she did not like

01:08:15.090 --> 01:08:17.529
the bourbon you gave her last night. Please tell

01:08:17.529 --> 01:08:20.109
me it wasn't horse neck. It was not horse neck.

01:08:20.569 --> 01:08:23.489
Good answer, Darren. Maybe you should try another

01:08:23.489 --> 01:08:28.840
– Use Buffalo Trace to steal his products. Maybe

01:08:28.840 --> 01:08:31.300
give her, not necessarily the foolproof or the

01:08:31.300 --> 01:08:34.859
120 pry proof, but they put out with like three

01:08:34.859 --> 01:08:37.640
or four different bottles from Benchmark. There's

01:08:37.640 --> 01:08:40.220
three or four different ones. Hey, why would

01:08:40.220 --> 01:08:42.279
he? He has a lifetime supply of Buffalo Trace.

01:08:42.460 --> 01:08:46.060
Exactly. Brother, you scored. I did score. You

01:08:46.060 --> 01:08:50.000
are good. Do you get the big old Magnums? I mean,

01:08:50.439 --> 01:08:52.819
I have before, but not for her. No, Paul. I'm

01:08:52.819 --> 01:08:55.220
not talking about condoms. She drinks about just

01:08:55.220 --> 01:08:58.380
a little bit every night. So my grandmother,

01:08:58.619 --> 01:09:01.279
when I was a kid, she used to drink gin and tonics.

01:09:01.300 --> 01:09:07.159
No. What's a vermouth? A highball. Martini. Martini?

01:09:07.319 --> 01:09:11.140
Yeah. And she used to sit there and she would

01:09:11.140 --> 01:09:14.279
put her glass on her head. And that meant me.

01:09:14.939 --> 01:09:17.880
Come make her a drink. You know, I mean, I don't

01:09:17.880 --> 01:09:19.960
know. Do we all have memories of our grandmothers

01:09:19.960 --> 01:09:23.079
and drinking and, you know, and that kind of

01:09:23.079 --> 01:09:24.880
thing? And so I would and she would tell me a

01:09:24.880 --> 01:09:28.039
thimble, a thimble of vermouth and this much,

01:09:28.119 --> 01:09:29.979
you know, whatever. And I would used to make

01:09:29.979 --> 01:09:31.760
it and I'd take it over to her. And I mean, it

01:09:31.760 --> 01:09:38.720
was fun. She was a drinker. Gay. Gay. My grandmother's

01:09:38.720 --> 01:09:42.289
story. Why would you say that? What the hell,

01:09:42.329 --> 01:09:45.250
man? All right, my bad. No, no. Can you pass

01:09:45.250 --> 01:09:48.489
me that? That deserves here. That should be a

01:09:48.489 --> 01:09:53.609
soccer card. That's a red card. It's a red card.

01:09:53.930 --> 01:09:57.229
But you know what? I apologize for him. If we

01:09:57.229 --> 01:10:00.649
had video and they saw you prop up, she really

01:10:00.649 --> 01:10:02.670
put the glass on her head. Put it on her head.

01:10:02.789 --> 01:10:04.689
And you were a bartender back when you were six?

01:10:05.109 --> 01:10:08.500
No, I was probably in middle school. I was probably

01:10:08.500 --> 01:10:10.560
in middle school. Were you sipping on the mix?

01:10:11.220 --> 01:10:13.359
You were a bartender? I would stumble there and

01:10:13.359 --> 01:10:15.659
back. I was shit -faced. Were you down here in

01:10:15.659 --> 01:10:17.659
Texas, Ray? Did she have big hair? Were you just

01:10:17.659 --> 01:10:20.239
like way up here? No, it was kind of the matted

01:10:20.239 --> 01:10:23.000
down blue hair. You know how it is. Do not make

01:10:23.000 --> 01:10:26.659
fun of her, Grandma. I was asking. I was asking.

01:10:26.880 --> 01:10:29.840
My bad. My bad. Yeah, this is going to be remembered.

01:10:30.159 --> 01:10:33.060
Yeah, and he jumped right on it, too. Thank you.

01:10:33.100 --> 01:10:35.500
I thought she was nice with the big hair. I was

01:10:35.500 --> 01:10:37.760
asking. No, no. She was asking. Ask her if she's

01:10:37.760 --> 01:10:42.260
available. Oh. Is she in Pennsylvania? Wow. Birds

01:10:42.260 --> 01:10:47.220
of a feather. Wow. Too soon? Too soon. Yeah,

01:10:47.220 --> 01:10:50.979
maybe. Too soon. Maybe. All right, look. This

01:10:50.979 --> 01:10:53.140
is great. It's been fun. You guys having a good

01:10:53.140 --> 01:10:54.800
time? It's been fun. It's been a great time.

01:10:55.000 --> 01:10:56.979
If you'll have us back, we'll come back sometime.

01:10:57.359 --> 01:11:00.739
You guys are welcome anytime. I'd say every fiscal

01:11:00.739 --> 01:11:04.699
quarter, just dial it in. You guys are close.

01:11:04.779 --> 01:11:06.699
You're right around the corner. Most of these

01:11:06.699 --> 01:11:08.399
guys are coming from out of town, out of state.

01:11:08.619 --> 01:11:11.399
It's like a big deal. You guys can come anytime.

01:11:12.360 --> 01:11:14.619
And it doesn't need to be on Tuesday. But remember,

01:11:14.859 --> 01:11:17.079
we might be doing video, so do a little touch

01:11:17.079 --> 01:11:20.840
-up maybe? It's hard to improve on this. A little

01:11:20.840 --> 01:11:24.420
work? Oh, whatever. I subscribe to that. A little

01:11:24.420 --> 01:11:26.199
nip and tuck for you guys? I don't know. A little

01:11:26.199 --> 01:11:31.380
Botox? A lot of Botox. Paralyze everything? Jesus.

01:11:31.699 --> 01:11:35.239
Everything? Do you see how much work we need?

01:11:36.090 --> 01:11:38.489
What the hell? This is obviously the second half

01:11:38.489 --> 01:11:41.029
of the podcast. It is. It is. But you know what?

01:11:41.050 --> 01:11:43.029
It's fun. It's something we enjoy doing. It's

01:11:43.029 --> 01:11:46.329
a hobby that we hope that this thing goes to

01:11:46.329 --> 01:11:48.109
the next level. We have no idea where this is

01:11:48.109 --> 01:11:49.710
going to take us. For sure. But I tell you one

01:11:49.710 --> 01:11:52.029
thing we do know. We all love doing it. We all

01:11:52.029 --> 01:11:54.029
love each other. You guys are great. This is

01:11:54.029 --> 01:11:56.130
a very fun thing for us. Yes, it is. We enjoy

01:11:56.130 --> 01:11:58.449
it. And we enjoy you guys coming on here and

01:11:58.449 --> 01:12:00.649
sharing your gospel. Yeah, we love your story.

01:12:00.909 --> 01:12:04.479
Love it. Thank you. Support us. Buy a lot of...

01:12:06.490 --> 01:12:11.649
Horseneck. Horseneck. Buffalo neck. What a weird

01:12:11.649 --> 01:12:14.729
thing to tell somebody, Darren. What a weird

01:12:14.729 --> 01:12:17.250
thing to tell somebody. Shout out to the Horseneck

01:12:17.250 --> 01:12:19.050
community out there because the products that

01:12:19.050 --> 01:12:22.130
they have with the variety pack, with the Horseneck

01:12:22.130 --> 01:12:25.010
ready to drink stuff. It's a winner. There's

01:12:25.010 --> 01:12:27.270
not other stuff out there like it. Period. There's

01:12:27.270 --> 01:12:29.590
not. And the fact that they don't use all that

01:12:29.590 --> 01:12:32.810
nefarious sweeteners and all that bullshit corn

01:12:32.810 --> 01:12:34.989
syrup they put in there. It does have extra fluoride,

01:12:34.989 --> 01:12:38.489
doesn't it? Thank you. I don't think it does.

01:12:38.609 --> 01:12:41.829
Next batch. But we tried all four. We enjoyed

01:12:41.829 --> 01:12:43.670
all four. They're all fantastic. We're trying

01:12:43.670 --> 01:12:46.289
to get Robert Kennedy to endorse us. There you

01:12:46.289 --> 01:12:51.029
go. Two different horse neck bourbon releases,

01:12:51.210 --> 01:12:53.310
whiskey releases, the sherry, and then the 101

01:12:53.310 --> 01:12:55.890
double barrel. Excellent. Excellent. Thank you.

01:12:56.069 --> 01:12:58.710
Highly recommended. I'm excited to hear about

01:12:58.710 --> 01:13:00.930
your limited releases. We'll come back to you

01:13:00.930 --> 01:13:04.329
more. Let's stick a pin in this. Regarding the

01:13:04.329 --> 01:13:06.529
next step for you guys have an event coming up.

01:13:06.569 --> 01:13:09.390
What is that event? June 27th. June 27th. Yep.

01:13:09.510 --> 01:13:11.789
Again, horsenegg .com. Sign up for the newsletter.

01:13:11.930 --> 01:13:13.710
We'll give you all the details. Bourbon Exchange.

01:13:14.050 --> 01:13:15.829
Excellent. There you go. Let's knock this out.

01:13:15.909 --> 01:13:17.670
Thank you, Mr. Chuck, for staying on top of the

01:13:17.670 --> 01:13:20.130
shit. Yes. Excellent podcast. Thank you guys

01:13:20.130 --> 01:13:24.890
so much. It is May 27th, 2025. Dudes Like Us.

01:13:24.949 --> 01:13:28.430
I'm Sean. I'm Paul. I'm Jeff. I am Jim. And I'm

01:13:28.430 --> 01:13:28.670
Darren.