I don't think we should talk about that. But
he loved it going down. Whoa, whoa, whoa. All
right, that got recorded. Do we need a disclaimer?
We need a disclaimer, I think. Well, it's the
second half, obviously, of the Dudes Like Us
podcast. It's May 27th. Hey, look, thank you
guys again for sticking around for the second
half. We know you've got better things to do
with your life. Really? Eh, not so much. This
is fantastic. Who doesn't want to be here right
now? Yes. And thank you for signing your, what
do you call that, liability forms? We did. Waiver.
Yeah, waiver. Liability waiver. Thank you for
signing those. I don't think that works. I don't
know that I did. Meaning we're not liable for
anything that happens to you in the second half.
Darren didn't tell you he's an attorney? I tried.
Oh. I did not know that. I stayed in a Holiday
Inn one time, though, and I watched the show.
The second half of the May 27th podcast. Thank
you, Mr. Producer, for staying on top of things.
Mr. Chexter, we got the Horse Neck crew here.
I'm Sean. I'm Paul. I'm Jeff. I'm Jim. And I'm
Darren. And we're here to... pumped you up. Would
you guys mind if I started with something? It's
to my partner Jim here. Jim, you rarely impress
me, but I will say that you've got a great radio
voice. Don't you? This podcast just got weird.
He's fully erect. Is that a compliment or a compliment?
I don't know. He was better at the waist out
there for a while. He was. You guys should talk
about this. I didn't realize this was going to
boomerang on me. Really. That was not my intention.
I told you it was the second half, Darren. This
is tough. How long does it last? The whole time.
It's just getting started. The whole time. So
you guys stuck around during the halftime. During
the halftime, you... took the liberty of sampling
our infinity bottle. We were given the liberty.
I didn't take it. Come on. No, no, no. I would
have taken it. Our gift to you. God bless. What
did you think? It is awesome. The infinity bottle
is, I'm trying to figure out what you do name
it like we talked earlier out there. Smooth,
smooth for everything that's in there. We have
to name it. I'm not under that. I wasn't ready
for that. I came up with a quick synopsis or
a quick gesture. What I said was, we have D -L
-U, right? So I was calling it Delucious. Delucious.
I don't think that went over. That sounds like
a ditty party. Oh, really? We're not going to
go there, are we? I'm not sure I'm ready for
that. It's a lubricant. Mineral oil and butt
plugs. Challenge flag. Let's call it something
else. I can already tell the second half is very
different than the first half. It can be. It
can be when you jam down those variety packs.
Ready to drink. All right, all right, all right.
So you guys had the Infinity Bottle. Yes. And
we pride ourselves on that because it's stuff
that we collect and procure for the last five
years that we put in there. And we take some
dabs out of it once every... three, four months.
We really do. And we have guests come on here.
We'll always encourage you guys to take a sample
of it. But it's something we pride ourselves
in having. It's not something that you would
find on the shelves anywhere. And I have given
some samples to some close friends that live
remotely, including yourself. We're supposed
to tell Darren. So have you guys heard of Only
Drams? Only Drams, the app. That's where Paul
posts his feet pics. You need to know about this.
Only Drams. Only Drams. Jim, do not take your
phone out and write it down. I will do that for
you. So basically, it's an app that allows you
to kind of add your collection of bourbons. If
you're into collecting bourbons, you can put
them all in. It's an app on your phone. Yeah,
you can scan them. It totally inventories your
collection, and it tells you basically how much
you've spent. Ooh. Yeah. Problematic. That's
a problem. When you're around your wife, you
want to blur that? There's a blur option? Yeah,
there is. Uncheck the box for that little section.
I was going to say, I can't keep track because
my wife drinks so much bourbon. Oh, really? Well,
that's better. Can I throw a challenge? You're
going to go there with Donna? I'm throwing a
challenge flag on that. Ooh. Your wife drinks
all your bourbon? So horse neck is not in there
yet, I think because you're too new, right? Oh,
so it pops up? Oh, yeah. It pops up. Oh, yeah.
So if you scan the barcode, if it's in their
system, it'll come up and it'll tell you everything
about it. Okay. And it was scary. I brought that
up because, you know, you were talking about
the Infinity Bottle, and there's quite a price
tag that has gone into that Infinity Bottle.
There really is. Was it Drams Only? The Drams
Only app. Only Drams. It's great for those folks
that have a collection at their house. Essentially,
you can scan the barcode and you upload it to
your collection for the fucking losers like us.
And you can rate it. You can give your taste.
You can rate it and there's a community of people
out there that list it. And what's neat is it
tells you if it's common, uncommon, rare, impossible,
or unicorn. So all you need to do is put a barcode
on your bottle, and then everybody gets scanned
in the bottle? Yes, sir. Yes, sir. So can I ask
you guys, all three of you, what are your go
-to? We're not gay. What are your go -to? Well,
not yet. Sorry, Jim. I know we don't have video.
Sorry, Jim. This guy right here. What are your
go -to bourbons? Darren, you don't want to ask
questions. What are your go -to bourbons? That's
difficult. We need categories. We'll shoot from
the hip, and I'll give you some. Because a lot
of people ask us that. And it's difficult because
there are many categories to go from. So it really
depends on price range. Because a lot of people
will ask us. And proof. And proof. No, come on.
You have a bourbon that's the one I'm going to
drink all the time. Oh, you mean like what we
have at home? For us. For what we drink. Yes.
Well, I'll tell you what. I'll give you some
staples, okay? I'll tell you some things, and
these guys will share their input. But I'll have
some low -cost bourbons for those folks out there.
I would say get yourself a bottle of Benchmark
Full Proof. Benchmark. Oh, my God. That's outstanding.
It's well bourbon. It's horrible. Yeah, Benchmark
is well. They serve it as a well when you have
mixed drinks at clubs, restaurants, et cetera.
Not foolproof. Correct. But Benchmark puts out
a foolproof subsidiary on that. Part of that
is it's all made by Buffalo Trace Distillers.
So the Full Proof is a fantastic alternate to
Old Granddad, 114. Old Granddad is a staple.
114 is incredible. So those are two that I've
given you that you should have on your shelves.
Betchmark Full Proof is 125 proof. Yeah, 125
proof. It's a big old... Yeah, it'll kick you
to the nuts. Ding in your butt, man. But again,
these are for the folks that like to taste the
whiskey, not to slam it. If you want to slam
it, you're going to have a problem. But the 114,
the old granddad, the 125, foolproof from the
Buffalo Tres Distillers benchmark. My go -to,
Noah's Mill. Noah's Mill. Oh, Noah's Mill. Outstanding.
It's a weeded bourbon. Yeah, it's good. We're
talking about price point. That's about $60.
I'm going to pass it over to you. There's a lot
more. If people want to get into rich bourbons
that are cost -effective, I would say Early Times,
100 proof. Yeah, the blue label, the bottled
and bond Early Times, outstanding. Not the yellow
label. I think that's the well stuff a lot of
people use. But Early Times, the blue label,
the bottled and bond, outstanding. It's $23,
$24 for a liter. Now, one of my go -tos, which
is in the 50 to 55 range, is the single barrel
of 1792. Yes. It's absolutely a go -to for me.
I totally agree. And I'm going to throw out a
weird one for you guys. And I don't think these
gentlemen agree with me, but what I have been
drinking recently is Rickhouse Gold. What is
it? Gold. Gold bar. Yes, they were right next
to us at Whiskey Riot. It was based out of California.
It's San Francisco. It's really good. It's really,
really good. And it's 108 proof, I think. And
it's $30. Was that the one that tasted like really
barbecue? Smoking barbecue. Dude. Yeah, 103 proof.
It was good. So I'm drinking right now. I brought
that to your house last year for Memorial Weekend,
and no respect whatsoever. Yeah. Took him a year.
What is this? What is this? And now he's like
whacking to the oldies over this. There was no
whacking to Rick House. Yes. Although that's
a great song title. I will tell you that some
of my overall favorites, period across the board
is a Texas whiskey 1845 from Lowry Crossing.
I will tell you that their products are above
and beyond. We've got some out there if you want
to try it. They're about 20 minutes from here.
We need to go do a tour. Absolutely. June and
Bob are the owners of them and they're fantastic
folks. There's the label up there. They are Texas
Endorsed. I mean, they love Texas. Texas history,
right? Yeah. We've made a few of our dudes like
us woodcraft projects for them. We need to take
Thursday and Thursday up there. Well, that's
the thing, yeah. We may be able to link up with
them and do something. Absolutely. And they love
partnering. I mean, like connecting with other
distillers. Oh, well, Mike with the boozy baking
cookies. Michael Knox. He uses their product
to make some of his cookies. And when you guys
do go up there, let us know. We'll sit bitch
with you. Well, he uses our double barrel to
make some chocolate chip cookies. Where are they
located? Garland or where? Lowry. Lowry. It's
a crossing. It's south of McKinney. Oh, really?
Kind of east. I thought Dallas was south of McKinney.
Well, McKinney is east of 75. It's a little bit
further east of McKinney. If you take 121, it
turns into Highway 5, and you keep going a little
bit, and then you need to take another right,
and then it's somewhere up there. So beyond Fairview
and all that area up there? Correct. Keep in
mind that Sean thinks the world's flat. He's
not really the best person to ask directions.
Jim doesn't know east from west either. We all
have our challenges. But it's not far, is my
point. It's not far. I just had never heard of
Lowry Crossing. Well, first of all, shame on
you. And Bob is the mayor of Lowry Crossing.
Bob Pettit is the mayor of Lowry Crossing, and
he's the... founder and owner of 1845 Distillery.
And they have a great story. They do, and they
also have a wine distillery out there, and they
have their own wine. They have a history of brewing
beer that they started off in the southeast coast
of Texas. Marlin Brewery? Is that what it was?
No. They just wanted gold also. They did. Oh,
they had tons of gold. They were having lots.
Double gold. They're having lots of success.
Yeah. Did I mention that we won a gold too? Our
double barrel? Yes, you did. I know. That's very
exciting. You did it on halftime. You did it
on our show. So that's outstanding. How long
have they been out there now? Six years. Six
years. That's all? I believe so. Yeah, they started
distilling six years ago, but they've only been
released to the public for like two. Okay. Yeah.
Yes. All right. So, Jeff, we didn't do your go
-tos. No, we didn't. Oh. Well, Early Times was
going to be one of them. Rare Breed is one of
my favorites. Oh, yeah. Texas. Or Turkey. Well,
Turkey, Rare Breed is one of my favorites. But
downstairs, I've got the Early Times right now
in my little decanter thing. Ooh, he decanted.
He decanted. Stop it. We missed Rebecca Creek.
Oh, well, they don't make any more. So, Rebecca
Creek by itself is... It's okay. For a 12 -year
bottle, I feel kind of an asshole saying that,
but I don't care. But the Spanish. Dude. That's
in my decanter. Rebecca Creek put out a product.
It is a double -barrel Spanish oak Rebecca Creek.
123 proof. It varied. Beautiful. And they were
running out of it. First of all, it's gone. It
is. In the Dallas region, we couldn't find it,
and it started becoming sparse. And we were like,
okay, well. Let's figure out. I had to go to
Houston, and it just turned out that they were
like, oh, we've got like six, seven bottles down
here in Houston. So I went down there and farmed.
For work. Oh, yeah, right, right. So his work
is going from distillery to liquor store to liquor
store to liquor store. What exactly are you doing
down there, Sean? It's taking you longer than
normal. Well, I hit the jackpot. So I went to
this one place and was like, yeah, we should
have three bottles here. And I was like, wait
a minute, is that a fucking case up there? And
I was like, that is the case. And so they pulled
the case down. I bought all of it. I bought all
of it. And then I came back and I was like Santa.
I was like Oprah Winfrey, a bottle for you, and
there's a bottle for you, and there's a bottle
for you. That was fantastic. But you know what?
You can't find it. So yeah, that's what I would
consider a unicorn. And you know there's one
guy. that was looking for this bottle. He's like,
they're all gone. He's like, what asshole did
this? Who's the asshole? There was a case here
yesterday. He bought 28 bottles. Who's hoarding
the toilet paper? Yeah, he's hoarding the toilet
paper. You know what? Look, I used to, I felt
bad during the moment. For a little bit. For
a little bit, but I remember all those times
where you're standing in line and someone buys
two. And you're like, motherfucker, you're right
in front of me. And you bought both of them.
I was like, God bless. The last one. The last
one. Nobody wants them. Dude, they were discarded.
And they were kind of like, even the people at
Specs, when I was chatting with them, they were
kind of like, oh, well, they've got pallets of
those in the warehouse. Like I said, you're on
the computer. They're looking at the computer.
I'm like. Well, bitch, order them. Bring them
here. But whatever. I was gone. I was only there
for a limited amount of time. I gobbled them
all up. That is what I would consider a unicorn
that you're not going to find anymore. But 1845.
We got to go out there. If we want to get up
there to what is a desirable thing that you want
on your shelf that's so difficult to get, you
guys looked at it during the halftime. I'd say
rare character. Yeah. You know, that stuff. Those
are unique. Very unique flavors. They're blends.
No, the first, no. Well, they could be, but they're
a little bit different. We have two single malts
out there, and then we have one that was aged,
a bourbon that was aged in a tokai. Is that how
you say it? Barrel? No, it's tokai. Tokaji? This
guy. I feel so embarrassed sometimes. He doesn't
know how to say anything. Tokai. Tokai. so rare
character was founded in 2021 by pablo no jim
knows oh yeah like you know you and i you know
what whatever it's so refreshing to be around
a learned person like you learn it you know what
i gotta deal with every day you're gonna want
to come wow you and i need to go you're gonna
want to come back every week now jim because
this is the only affirmation you ever get wow
He's just going to keep listening to this podcast
over and over again. His wife's going to be like,
seriously? Can we put this on the horse neck
website? Because I want everybody to hear it
now. Can we listen to something else, Jim? This
is awful. I've been taping this on my phone the
whole time, so I can take it home tonight. By
the way, we haven't heard Jim's phone, have we?
No, we haven't, because I think somebody broke
it. But by the way, what do you go to, gentlemen?
I mean, you drank bourbon before you bought your
own. I mean, what the hell? Lately, I've been
really enjoying Widow Jane. Oh, we don't have
any of that. Yeah, we don't have any of that.
Stevie Ray Vaughan, who was that? Interesting.
It's really good. Yeah, they were at the Whiskey
Riot. Theirs is a what, 10 -year? 10 -year. I
think it's a 10 -year. Okay. That's really good.
Good tip. What about you, John? Who was the maker?
The Widow Jane was like by, I thought it was
like a rock star. I don't think so. I don't know
the story. You're thinking. Maybe. I don't think
so. Hell House is. Oh, is that the Hell House?
Maybe Hell House. That's by Lynyrd Skynyrd. They
have the same looking bottle. No, that was Lynyrd
Skynyrd. That's exactly what it was. That's the
two. Well, let me say. And by the way, let me
say that Widow Jane, it's after our Sherry cask
finish. Right. Just to let you know. There you
go. Right. Of course. After the horse neck Sherry
finish. Of course. That's my second. All right.
Hanoi Jane. Right. Yeah. Widow Jane. I'm very
new. To bourbon, I guess I say, with my palate.
Not with the business, but with my palate. So
Old Crow? You say that, and I have an old crow
in the closet. I'll admit it. I'll admit it.
Don't dog it, man. Back when I bought the big
bottle for like $5. It's plastic. Comes with
a $5 pack of Swisher Sweets. Perfect. Still got
the Swisher Sweets. No, I would say, obviously,
horse neck. But old Ezra Sevenyear. That's a
good one. I really, really like that. Hard to
find sometimes, but really good. It disappeared
for quite a while, then all of a sudden it was
on a bunch of shelves, and then it's gone again.
The rumor we heard, or I heard, was that they
produce it once a year and send it out once a
year. I don't know if it confirmed that or not,
but when it's there, it's there. There's a lot
of it there. You know what we found? So we sample
lots of bourbon, right? A different bourbon every
first and second podcast that we do. And we started
to find ourselves becoming snobs. And about two
gallons every Friday. Every Friday. Every Friday.
No, we found ourselves being snobs and, you know,
the higher proofs were the only ones that mattered.
But then we found ourselves saying, because we
would rate them. We rate them. We have a spreadsheet
and it rates from usually five and a half to
maybe a nine. There's a couple of nines out there.
A couple of nines out there. I think the Victor's
Tense and Rare Characters were nines. Right.
Maybe the pinhook, maybe? Yeah, the pinhook four
-year was fabulous. Really? There's one after
we got it. Yeah, but look, it's not all pinhook.
No. That one. That one only. I mean, look, I
don't want to post those. Which one is it? Because
I've had pinhook, and I would not have rated
it. Oh, it was tremendous. Yeah, Jeff will get
it, man. All right, so while he's grabbing that.
A couple of your Garrisons have rated 9, too.
Oh, yeah, the Garrison's 90 proof. The Cowboy?
The Cowboy's good. Oh, the Cowboy's one. The
Cowboy's single barrel, the Lady Bird. Unbelievable,
the Cowboy. I think that's what we drank and
walked out on Dan on. It's a Cowboy. Jeff, do
we have another bottle of that, or is that it?
Oh, thank God. Coy Hill. It's a really, really
good Coy Hill. It looks like a Basil Hayden almost.
That is a beautiful bottle. I mean, the juice
in that thing is great. The juice is actually
from Still Austin. Oh, is it really? Which, by
the way, is excellent. Keep the love in the family
as far as Texas goes. Yeah, for sure. That looks
good. Yeah. Anyway, so what I was going to tell
you guys—sorry, go ahead. I was going to say
they don't make that one anymore. It was a one
-and -done type of thing. One -and -done, yeah.
It was a special edition, limited edition. Yeah.
Anyway, so what we found ourselves seeing—you
know, sometimes we would rate something a 6 or
a 6 .2, and that sounds bad. But at the end of
it, we'd be like, you know what? If we go over
to a friend's house, and they pull out the bottle
that we just sampled that we said was a 6 .2,
and they pour two glasses, we enjoy it. Yeah,
right. You know what I mean? It's so rare that
we drink something that, like, yeah, I'm sorry,
I'm going to decline it, right? Or I'm going
to push it back to my host and say, yeah, this
is not drinkable. We are losers, though. I'm
just saying. I'm just saying. So, you know, you've
got to take these ratings that we give with a
grain of salt. You can't have a fantastic whiskey
bourbon without experiencing the lower end. You
know, you got to appreciate the lower end because,
you know, you can take age and age, which is
undesirable in my opinion. You know, my point,
with the lows come the highs. Right, right. That's
kind of what I'm getting at. This stuff right
here, the collective, the collaboration series,
the pinhook four -year. Number four, is that
what it says? I'm telling you, it's ridiculous
in how, I mean, you guys could do a sample if
you want. I don't want you getting all shift
-based driving home. It's 114, right? 118, 119,
almost 119. Let me see this. Yeah, but it's right
in my wheelhouse. I love that stuff. Yeah, yeah,
yeah. But, you know, that's what we like. That's
what gets us going. But we're going to, like
this right here, if it were high -proof, what
would you say, Paul? Well, I was going to say,
you said Kurt does all the labeling. Yeah, he's
our marketing guy. He does all the— Is there
any symbolism? You know, so we had the big stick.
guy. Big Mike. He had so much symbolism. Mike
Ryan. With the label. Everything meant something.
Marines, military. Do you guys have a lot of
meaning, symbolism, anything? It's proprietary.
You'd have to kill us. That's great. There'd
be a mass shooting at the podcast room if you
told us anything. I would say one thing that
I think we all wanted to stick to was, even though
it's Kentucky bourbon, we wanted some Texas on
there. So that was one thing that we really talked
about, keeping the state, the TX, whatever, but
somewhere it had to be on there, and that was
one thing. Absolutely. No, I was just curious.
Yeah, I don't know if there's anything else.
I don't think, I mean, he was looking, Kurt's
a great marketing guy, and he just wanted a bottle
that was pleasing to the eye, that drew the attention.
Right, right, right. And I think, yeah. You know
something? But there's got to be symbolism. I
mean, there's symbolism on everything. There's
got to be some deep -seated stuff that he put
in there. You got to ask him. It depends on which
bottle you get. But in the horse's eye, not the
horse's A. In the horse's eye, there's certain
bottles that they're winking at you. What are
you talking about? I think I see that. Go with
it. Go with it. Is this like a Disney show where
you see like penises and the cloud formations
or something? See what you did? This isn't Beauty
and the Beast. See what you brought on, Jim,
with that comment? We are far from Disney. Far
from Disney. There's a little nut in your eye,
right? Is that what you're getting at? There's
a horse neck, there's a tank. That's why we don't
let you out very often, Jim. Wow. When you guys
were kids, did you ever take your cassette tapes
and reverse the wheels? Yeah. Or play the record.
I'm finding when I read your label backwards,
there's some weird -ass shit I'm feeling. Lucifer
is here for you. Give me your kids. Drink it
and die. Oh, that's funny. All right, all right.
Good stuff. Yes, all right. But we didn't talk
about this. Let's just dive into this. Yeah,
let's dive into it. The sherry finish. Okay,
excellent. It's probably more your favorite.
than mine. I'm just not a Sherry fan. I don't
think you would know it was Sherry unless I told
you. Would you say, oh, this is Sherry? Not this
one. I would say more Sherry finishes from my
experience. Sherry has a muddled kind of a taste
because anytime that When you have a wine barrel
or a port, it has a little bit of a muddled taste.
I call it a muddled taste. I don't know. That's
what I take out of it. Not pure bourbon, but
a little bit of both in there. It's a little
muddled. If you think about a grape skin. Like
bitter almost? Yeah, it's got that muddled...
bitterness that a grape skin of the grape will
have. That's the stuff that kind of pushes through
the thing. Do you get that with this? I do not.
Here's what I get. I do get a richer, fruitier
finish on this than I do the other one. Honestly,
I smell celery. But it's subtle. You know what
I'm saying? It doesn't blast through. The fruitiness
doesn't blast through. It's more subtle. That's
why I hate to use the word sweet because it's
not sweet. It's not sweet. But it's got that
tinge. I think it is. I think it's got a raisin
bite in there. I don't think it does. Yeah, but
not sweet. Like I said, it's like a rich fruit.
Right. And I think, for me, it hangs on longer.
It does. It lasts longer. Oh, it lasts longer
than a 101. I think so. The finish on this is
a lot longer. You know, Jeff's really good at
this. What do you got? Come on. Give me a slurp.
And give me a finish here. Jesus. Perfect. We
had a nickel every time I had to hear that. He's
like a Neanderthal, but he loves bourbon. Well,
we also learned when we were up at the bourbon
trail about the bourbon chew. Oh, yeah. It was
a Jim Beam, and he had all of us doing it. He
goes, you put it in there, and you swallow it,
and you start smacking your teeth. So whether
like 12 or 15 people are like this, going, oh,
yeah, I think I can taste all this stuff now.
Very attractive, by the way. We were all doing
it. Very attractive. You're going to do a video
of that? No, but I pick up some stone fruits,
which is Sean's favorite. I'm going to do it.
There is stone fruits. Stone fruits. Some dark
fruits. Some of the dark fruits is what I pick
up in this. Cherry. It's a plum. The stone fruit
with the plum. Cherry is hardcore in there. You
know, not even dark cherry. You guys have much
better palate than I do. I tell you, I get up
when I do the, what do you call it? The chew?
The chew, yes. I get more. There's honey. I get
more wine in there. I do. All right, don't do
that anymore. Yeah, it doesn't sound good in
the microphone. No, no, I'm not doing it in my
mouth. But it actually worked. As I do. I shouldn't
have said that. Let's edit that out. Mr. Producer,
mark that down. Let's edit that out. Horseneck
sherry cast bourbon is described as complex,
smooth, layered bourbon with a sherry cast finish
contributing to its rich and enjoyable flavor
profile. So I've got a question for you all since
you're bourbon experts. Let's do it. My palate
is not all that great. It's good, but not great
like a lot of other people. But one time I was
up in Oklahoma, and I was smoking a cigar. A
what? A cigar. Okay. Nice cigar. Not swish or
sweet. A cigar. And I was drinking some bourbon,
and I mean, it just exploded in my mouth. All
the flavors. Cigars can do that. That was my
question. It complements it, yeah. Does it complement
that? Absolutely. Yeah, absolutely. If you were
to take a cigar with this, it... It adds to the
– I would say it reacts with the char. Anytime
a barrel is charred and you've got some smoke
in your mouth, there's an interaction there.
I can't describe it, but it's – what's the word?
Amplified. Synergized. Enhanced. Enhanced, yeah.
Orgasmic. It can be depending on what you're
dealing with. Do we have a ticker ticker for
the Dallas Stars? It's 2 -1 Oiler. 2 -1 Oiler.
It's really 1 -2 -1. We can't lose this, by the
way. Are you guys huge Cigar fans? We cannot
lose this. Come to playoffs, I am. We cannot
lose this. We cannot. So you're a big Cigar fan?
Not big, but I do enjoy Cigar. At least. I think
Sean's probably more than most of us. We really
haven't got into the cigar scene yet. So I'll
tell you that in my 20s and 30s, I smoked a ton
of cigars. And I had to stop because I was drinking
so much, a loser, and I had stomach issues. So
every time I smoked a cigar, my stomach acid
just went through the roof. And it just affected
me. So I was like, I just can't do that. And
so I stopped for a very long time. But you kept
drinking. Yeah, you can't stop drinking because
of the stomach acid. It makes it worse. I got
to tell you, the guys kind of make fun of me
about this because I'm into holistic kind of
solutions for medical. Here we go. I was one
of those guys that took acid inhibitors for a
long time. He took acid as well. TAC, is that
what it is? Yeah, there's just a bunch of that
shit. You know, I took it for 30 years, all right?
And I was listening to some doctor, Dr. Barbara
O 'Neill. I thought it was Dr. Ruth. Dr. Ruth
Westheimer. No, I'm not talking about the sex
doctor. Oh, my bad. My bad. It was Dr. Barbara
O 'Neill, and she's a doctor, and she's old as
shit, but she doesn't look like it. But she brought
up folks that she said that they're idiots for
taking that drug. She was like, you can cure
your ailments from your acid, your stomach issues,
if you control the water intake in your life.
Period. Your fluids intake. More or less. So
it's not necessarily more or less. It's timing.
It's 100 % timing. So it's like you don't drink
before you eat, during your eat, or after you
eat. Period. If you want to drink like a whiskey
or perhaps a horse neck beverage, yeah, you want
to sip it. You don't want to drink it. You want
to enjoy it because what you're doing is when
you have the food in your stomach, and all of
a sudden you're introducing it to like, oh, I
want a 32 -ounce Coca -Cola sitting on my table
or a nice tea or whatever. Great accent. Why
do you talk like that? Certain accents come out
at certain times. For our podcast listeners,
if you drink a 32 -ounce Coke, you're a redneck.
It's for the Tennessee folk. Yeah, apparently.
If you drink a 32 -ounce, it's either Texas Hick,
Bill Cosby, or New Jersey. Yeah. It's tantalizing.
My point is that your stomach has to do its job.
And sometimes when you dilute the acids in your
stomach by drinking so much during while you're
eating, that's... your body produces more. Yeah.
It gets in a cycle where it just, it starts,
oh, God bless, we were running out of acid, let's
fix this stuff. And that's a problem because
after that food goes away, then the acid's still
there, it gives the acid reflux, it's uncomfortable,
blah, blah, blah. I'll tell you what, January
of this year, I stopped taking my medicine after
30 years. Zantac, Prilosec, any of those? All
of them. And now he has. Constant diarrhea. I
have herpes. No. Funny you should say, I sold
a medicine for herpes. He wears a diaper for
God's sake. But what I'm saying is that I don't
have a problem with it. I purposely don't have,
like I had last night, I had Italian food. Spicy.
I didn't drink anything. I didn't drink anything.
I had a little bottle of a club soda and I took
a couple sips out of it and I was fine. And normally
I would be like, This is catastrophic. It's true.
It's a formula for disaster. During the meal,
you're saying you don't drink anything. I don't
drink before, during, or right after. So it's
a three -hour process. Okay. All right? I wouldn't
drink anything an hour before, during, or an
hour after. You don't drink anything, like even
water. When you say you don't drink, you mean
like alcohol? Period. Fluids. I mean, look, I
have something to drink because you need something
to wet your whistle. You need to have something.
But I'm not going to sit there and down. Like
when you're at a table, I'll have more iced tea.
Dude, you've got like a 28 fucking ounce glass
of iced tea there. You're going to have stomach
issues if you drink that. I don't care what the
fuck it is. It could be Coke, Dr. Pepper, iced
tea, water. What does it matter? Beer? It could
be anything. If you're going to drink that, it's
going to dilute what's in your stomach, and you're
going to have stomach issues. I mean, the bottom
line is, first off, everybody's body is different.
It is. But the bottom line is, fluids can affect
the very delicate balance of when your body is
getting the signal to produce stomach acid. So
that's the only change. Jeff, are you going to
chime in here? No, I prescribe to it because
my youngest son drinks, I don't know, 10 cups
of water with dinner. And he has horrible reflux.
Wow. Yes. And he's just drinking, chugging water.
And he's 23. And he's always fighting it. And
I tell him, I was like, you need to stop drinking
that much water when you eat your food. And he
won't stop. for whatever reason. Yeah, it's okay
to drink that much, but throughout the day, just
not a fan. You think about caveman days. When
cavemen ate, they ate. There wasn't water around
and stuff. They ate, and that was it. How do
you know that? I don't know my history. I was
there. He was there. How long have you been around,
dude? Wow. I'm the old man of the group. What
the hell? How did he know that? You've got a
seasoned veteran on your team, Darren. That was
my uncle. You're like a PhD in history. Ancient
history. Back when I was a caveman. You just
make shit up as you get older. Say it with confidence,
baby. Say it with confidence. Nobody will know
the difference. For me, it worked. I'm going
to try it. I'm going to try it. That makes sense.
How was that good? Where was that going? Yeah,
you always push your health issues on everybody.
Celtic salt, maybe? Yeah. Well, I mean, Celtic
salt. So now you've ruined a good glass of wine
with my Italian dinner. No, no. A glass of wine
is perfect. Don't wash it down with two glasses
of iced tea. No, no. Again, it's not the matter
of it being Coke, tea, alcohol, or whatever it
is. It could be anything. It's just the volume
of dilution that you're doing to the acid. So
it could be anything. So it's just like, you
want a glass of wine? Drink a glass of wine.
Just sip it. And on top of that. Don't have to.
So my wife and I went to a clinical nutritionist
to understand, you know, what's going on with
different ailments we have. And, you know, I
could go off on a huge tangent on that. But he
said. Micropenis. If you. No. No. No. And we're
going to edit that. She has a micropenis? What
the? No, it's not. She has a much bigger. Wait.
Hold on. Fuck. What? All right, anyway, listen,
what he said was, this is why, by the way, you
said earlier, like, you know, Jeff, what do you
think? This is why we can't go live. We don't
let him talk. Sorry, sorry. There's a reason
why we don't let him talk, because he says stupid
shit like that. No, no, I think you should be
talking more. No, no, no. That's the right line.
No, he doesn't. Can you turn the mics off, please?
Yes, please. Now, anyway, what the clinical nutritionist
said is, you do not want any fluids to interfere
with the absorption of what you eat. Period.
I mean, not only what can be affected in terms
of acid and all that kind of stuff, but you want
the food that you eat to be fully digested, fully
broken down. Really, it's the broken down part.
It is the broken down part. Thank you for bringing
that up. That was the part I was trying to get
to. Yeah, but you failed miserably. Yeah, I did.
But breaking things down is critical because
some of those elements that are in that food
that... It doesn't happen until some of the final
phases of it break down. And it gets interrupted.
It gets interrupted by liquid. And you shit it
out. And it's gone. And therefore, you didn't
get your magnesium. You didn't get your vitamin
B or whatever it is that you're supposed to get
that we're all deficient of. Selenium? Yes, selenium.
You didn't get your D. You beat me to it, you
fucker. He beat me to strontium. You asshole.
This is the last direction I thought this podcast
was going to go. Right? Vitamins and health food.
Darren, turn around to the board and tell me
if any of that is on the board. It's not on the
board. No, it's not on the board. See, this is
what we do. Not at all. This is what we do. But
it's interesting. This is what dudes like us
do. This is what dudes like us do. We just bullshit
and we talk about crazy stuff. Right? Here we
go. It's things that we should talk about, though.
I mean, there are, because there are a lot of
people out there suffering needlessly. Look,
it's ignorance. You know what? It's not just
ignorance. And frankly, it makes me a little
disgruntled. Actually, it makes me a lot disgruntled
that our medical industries out there aren't
sharing these simple solutions with them. Instead,
they want to prescribe. Why do you think? Because
they want to make money for the pharmaceuticals.
They want to sell. It's all about money. What
is it? Prevacid? No, Zantac. Zantac. They want
to sell them. Prilosec. Prilosec. They were some
of the two biggest products. I never sold them.
They want to sell them. They were the two biggest
products ever. Billion dollar products. That's
why. It's a business out there. I get it. It's
a business out there, but we have a new sheriff
in this town, and his name is RFK. Let's talk
about Maha. And he's cleaning house if you guys
want to make America healthy again. Let's talk
about it. What do you guys think about this?
I think he's got a lot of good points because
I think there's a lot of, coming from the pharma
industry, and I'll probably get fired for saying
this, but luckily my boss doesn't listen to podcasts.
At least I don't think he does. There's a lot
of information like that that can be holistic
that is not out there. Or doctors have gotten
frustrated by trying to share it in patients
not like you taking it up. It's like talking
to a wall, a diabetic to lose weight. Some doctors,
they just give up. Or to change their diet. I'll
treat you, yeah. So I think there's a lot of
frustration on both ends because the doctors
I truly believe are not the ones I deal with.
They're not in it for the pharmaceuticals. They're
in it for the patient. Sure. But getting through
to the patient to make them understand what's
best for them sometimes doesn't happen, especially
when they're getting paid for a 15 -minute visit.
I also think that the people in America are looking
for the easy way out. Give me the pill, give
me the shot, whatever. And I actually think both
are. The patient and the doctor are looking for
quick fix because they know that their true solution
is a year -long diet change, a lifestyle change,
a this and a that, all these things that people
are not willing to do. The doctors know it. The
patients know it. And the pharmaceuticals fill
the gap. The pharmaceutical industry doesn't
make money unless people are sick. That's right.
The military doesn't make money. The industrial
complex doesn't make money unless there's wars,
right? Yes. It's so broken right now. Yes. It's
so broken. But you see a lot of doctors getting
into it. My wife started going to one, a concierge.
And I think it's $125 a month. And she sees her.
The first visit, she spent an hour and 15 minutes
with her. to understand what her issues and problems
were and how do we move on from here. That was
the second solution. Oh, okay. But you don't
get doctors that do that because they're so bound
to the insurance companies and what am I getting
paid and so on and so forth. It's all about the
money. The practice makes money depending on
how much they prescribe of something. Like Elon
Omar, it's all about the Benjamins. It is. Yeah,
it is. So how do we feel about RFK Jr.? What
he's trying to do. Rock on. I like his voice.
I was going to say that's really a tough one
to follow, but I don't know. Jim is way worse
than that, brother. Let's be real. Okay. Hold
on. I was doing Val Kilmer. I'm sorry. At least
I'm doing something that's tough. This is my
red card for him. That's tough. That's tough.
Yeah, that's a red card. Yes, yes, yes. Wow.
Wow. Yeah, but I feel bad for him, but you know
what? God bless. Fuck him. You know why? Because
he's fucking ripped. He's got... Dude. RFK has
got a ripped body. I think he's jealous. I thought
about Val, right? He's shitting all over Val
Kilmer right now. I don't know about Val. Look,
RFK is on a train right now. I don't know how
long it's going to take, but I really want the
floor out of our water. It needs to be out because
it's not a benefit. Yeah. Period. In fact, it's
doing us more harm. It's so funny you should
say that. I just went to the dentist last week
and checked out. Like, you don't have a lot of
plaque on your teeth. How do you feel about fluoride?
Do you like fluoride treatment? I'm like, no.
I mean, the dentists are asking. They want to
push it. Yeah, they do. There are some nefarious
things going on with that. There is a movie.
or there's a movie released on Netflix, and it
has something to do with root canals. Did you
guys hear anything about this? No. So it was
on Netflix for about a month, and then it was
yanked. And you can only, if you have a VPN,
you can watch it if you locate yourself somewhere
in the middle fucking east somewhere. But it
is available, but it's not available in the United
States anymore. And it basically said that when
they do root canals on you, There are two horrible
things that you can do. Fluoride and root canals.
And root canals, it releases a bacteria in your,
because your jaw, for some reason, stores a ton
of stuff up there. And when you do root canals,
it releases that stuff. Or there's a process,
a chemical reaction. There's something going
on. When you do root canal, it'll jack you up.
Are you finding that, Mr. Producer? No, I am
not. Anyways, I don't know. There's no validity
to it because I haven't seen it, but it was a
meme. It wasn't a TikTok, but it was still a
meme. I thought root canals were like every day.
You've got to have a root canal. The floor, I
think, for the little I know, was back in the
day was to prevent cavities. That was the reason
for it. But we've moved beyond that. We've moved
beyond that. That's the point. I remember as
a kid, they'd come in with these big mouth retainers
and they'd fill it up with this gel. You're going
to sit there for 15 minutes now. And it soaks
in. That's horrible. Twice a year we did that.
So there was the Wikipedia root cause. Because
you know Wikipedia is the authority. It's one
of the only places I found it. Your producer
is on top of things. Can we give a shout out?
Can we give a shout out for Chuck? You guys are
drunk. Yeah, you're right. Let's forget about
this whole thing. Why don't we turn the camera
on him? There is no camera. Thanks a lot, Jim.
Hey, I tell you what. How about you guys? How
about Horse Neck? Sponsored by Horse Neck. Our
camera. Okay, we got one right here for you.
The one that won't stop doing the alarm. Go back
up, Mr. Producer. The premise of this is the
film follows the filmmaker's 10 -year journey
to solve the chronic fatigue and anxiety, starting
with the mainstream medicine, but then winding
through a range of alternative medicine practices
and finally arriving at the conclusion that old
root canals were the source of all his ailments.
Well, I mean, they used to put lead in fillings.
I mean, you know. Well, it also says the film
makes specific false claims. Right. 97 % of patients
with breast cancer had a root canal on the same
side as a breast cancer. Well, I mean. And the
number one heart attack is a root canal treated
teeth. Okay, that's probably true, but that's
one ailment. But there are a hundred other ailments
that don't fall in that category. And it's strange
that they only post those two. Yeah, you know,
there's this thing called the documentary effect,
and it's like, if you watch a documentary, then
all of a sudden you believe everything that the
documentary says. That's true. And then you watch
the opposite documentary and you believe everything
that that documentary says. All it is is data.
All it is is data that your brain collects, and
it's just kind of like, you know, there's this
common denominator of distrust with anything
that anybody provides us for knowledge and data.
You know, it's like, I don't trust fucking anybody.
I mean, because there was one point where we're
wearing goddamn masks in 2020. You know? Yeah.
COVID. I mean, what kind of bullshit was that?
The Fauci rules, the five -foot rule, fuck off.
Some of us had a face that warranted a mask.
That's true. We all do. We never really touched
on that during COVID, but I think the ugly people
needed a mask, don't you think? I don't care
about that, but I do care about the fact. Look,
seriously, this brings up a lot of issues that
we're going to have for a very long time. There
are a couple generations that were truly affected
by this. And it's the kids and the school, the
lack of education that some of these guys have
got. Some of the smart ones are going to be able
to pass through this seamlessly. Some of them
aren't, and they're going to fail. It affected
the little kids. I'll tell you what, my wife's
a teacher, and she says... Last year was the
worst classes that she's ever had as far as the
kids and their entitlement and their behavior.
Because these kids last year were in what, fifth
grade? You know, sixth grade when this whole
thing went down, right at that important time
of growing up and trying to figure this whole
thing out. And she said they were the worst last
year. You know what? It was a combination of
a couple things. It was a combination of the
mask affected social interaction, but also it
was the, gosh, how do I say this? The carbon
dioxide intake we're taking. Well, maybe. Lack
of oxygen. But I was talking about de -importantizing.
That's not a word, but. It's like education became
what it wasn't as important because they shut
down all the schools. So as soon as a kid realizes,
oh, okay, schools were shut down, education is
really not that important. Me going to school
and learning really wasn't as important as what
all the parents said and the teachers said. But
the government never lies to us, do they? Never,
never. That's the frustrating part is that you're
supposed to look to the government for truth.
True. And it's just like, they've been lying
to us forever. And I've mentioned this on several
podcasts. I mean, like, dude, it's a business
for them. The pharmaceuticals, it's the food
that we eat. You know, they had the pyramid.
The food pyramid is upside fucking down. You
know, they're like, we want you to eat all this
food back in the 70s and 80s. And that was completely
false. All that food has created. An epidemic
of fat. Fat, diabetes, motherfuckers. And diabetes
is the number one product sold by pharmaceuticals.
As part of that, the lost weight. That's horrible.
It is. Semi -glutide. A lot of those folks aren't
diabetic. They're just wanting to lose fat. They
just want to look like a supermodel. And get
an ozempic face and paralyzed stomach. Well,
we want to look like Superman. That ozempic is
horrible for you. It is. Heart and arteries.
Yep. Jim, you don't want to know what's holding
up the video on the podcast? We. are waiting
for our semi -glute tights to kick in. Because
we are not going on there until we're chiseled,
motherfucker. You know what I'm saying? Do it
from here up. Face only. God, he's got a chubby
face. It's not going to pay the bills, and you
want to go lower than that. Frickin' sausage
sticking out this frickin' hole in his shirt.
Right, right. Anyway. It's fun, though. This
Dudes Like Us podcast, we want to envelop all
this information. We want to be... we want to
have the conversation, you know, and we, I don't
really want to, but I, I talk a lot. crazy stuff
and these guys yes are look look it's seriously
look i'll bring it up because you have to i've
talked about borax in your diet and these these
guys went all up in arms and it's just like you
know sean you hear one little meme and you think
it's like all right well i get it but there's
there's all this down here but there's all kinds
of stuff out there and and i get it it's good
it's bad the the bottom line is that you have
no idea because you can't fucking trust anybody
Because it's all about a fucking buck. And if
you could take something that's going to cost
a nickel that'll save your life, they're going
to want you to pay $5 ,000 for the same thing.
So do you trust AI? No. What a great segue. I
do not. Good question. Nowadays, we're not sure
what's real. It's pretty reliable on a lot of
things. But when it comes to biased information,
And I say bias meaning leaning left or right.
I think it has some suede. Because I think the
people who program this have their own bias.
Yeah, absolutely. And they program that in there.
They might even have an agenda. Correct. Just
like Google. Imagine that. In their search algorithms,
they'll pull back certain ones and hide others
based off of their algorithms. We don't want
them to see this. The Apple phone. Go ahead.
My understanding of AI now, though, is it's searching
everything. Correct. You think. Yeah, you think.
That's what they say. Sure. That's pulling from
everywhere, everywhere. So the bias, if everything's
biased, then yes, it's still in there. But if
it's not. They're pulling from every side section.
That I don't know. There's nefarious elements
out there. When you take certain iPhones, I'm
sure it's not doing it anymore, but there was
a point where you would pull up a voice -to -text
on an iPhone and you were to use the word racist.
You want to include the word racist in your texting
or anything? For a millisecond, the word Trump
would show up. And that's a real thing. I mean,
you pull it up and you say, racist went to the
store. And it would say, Trump went to the store.
And then it would be like, racist went to the
store. It would change it like a millisecond
later. You know, it's kind of like, well, that's
talking about the power of suggestion. And that
was brought to, like, you know, Google's attention.
And they changed something. Oh, silly us. Oh,
we're so sorry. Silly us. We don't know how that
happened. We don't know how that happened. Right.
Well, it's just like when Google Gemini first
launched. They said, show me a picture of the
founding fathers. It was like black women and
Asian women and wigs and stuff. It was crazy.
Shut the front door. Get out of here. So they
yanked it back and said, yeah, we need to re
-hamp this. You think? Yes. Because the guy who
was the lead of that algorithm baked that into
it. He did it. They show diversity, so they show
diversity. The bias is real. By the way, there's
a video going viral right now. Do you remember
the Hawk Tour girl? Oh, yes. It was like two
college girls that were being interviewed by
a guy out on the street after they'd been clubbing
and they were kind of dizzy and drunk. That one's
fake, isn't it? No, that one isn't. But one has
just come out. That's what I mean. It's 100 %
AI. And you cannot tell. You cannot tell. That's
so scary. And everybody's like, wow. Because
we knew that AI was getting to that level. Well,
they can do a podcast like that. So are you guys
real or are you AI? Well, it depends. I mean,
like right now we're real. Is this real? Are
we real right here? Once we upload it to the
RSS and it takes our feed somewhere, it may change.
Sean, you need to bring your friend in from perplexity
or whatever, your chat friend who has a nice
voice. Sesame. Sesame? Are we really here right
now? So, Darren, it's funny you mention that
because we're going to do one version on video
and the rest from now on is AI. That's brilliant.
Guys, think about how much time we save. You
can just sit there and drink some bourbon. We
don't have to spend money on bourbon. We don't
have to come here every Tuesday night to Jeff's
house and do this damn podcast. Everything's
AI from now on. And Chuck gets to do his wildlife
stuff. That's AIS from the Napoleonic. No, that's
actually real. Well, hold on. We were in Spain,
and it was during the war. Which war? You were
in Italy. Spanish War. You know what? Napoleonic
War. I bought that for Christmas. Let's pass
here. All right? And I got to tell you what.
The only thing these two... dumbasses have been
commenting about this thing is the fact that
it looks like I have a larger penis than them.
Okay, you keep calling that out. I have a vagina.
See the bulge down to the knee? Let me put my
glasses on for this. So, you know, for those
listeners out there. How many of you think that
he picked that body to put his face on? But I
didn't choose it. So for those people, what is
that website called? It's the Royal Me or something
like that. Weird dudes like us? No, no. It's
Make Me Royal. I think that's what it is. It's
a Make Me Royal, and you log on to that thing,
and you upload. You go to the website, and you
pick out how many people you want, and then you
upload photos, random photos, and that's it.
You don't pick who you want the photo to be.
They randomly pick it up. I have a fupa. He has
a vagina, and you have a sausage. Upload three
pictures, and the result is horrific. That was
AI. The five horse neck founders? You have to
do it. Oh, we got to totally do it. It's like
300 bucks. And it has to be in your... I'm going
to pay for it, so I get the bigger. No, you get
the fupa. You get the fupa. You get the horse
neck fupa. Congratulations, Darren. See if they
have any four people up there. Is there any foursomes?
Oh, my God. Be careful when you enter that into
a search engine. By the way, I would take whatever
advice we give you with a grain of salt. There
are couples, so you know. Anyway, so you guys
are, do we talk about this, that you're talking
about doing a tasting room? Do we talk about
that during the break? Yeah, we would. You know,
we'd love to. That was proprietary, Paul. Thank
you. We don't have a tasting room yet, but we
do. You're talking about in the future. We love
like a speakeasy tasting room. There you go.
That's what I'm talking about. That's what I'm
talking about. We do have, though, we are going
to have a, coming up at the end of June, it's
called a bourbon exchange where you can. Group
of guys come together, and we're going to exchange
bourbons. It's going to be a fun night. We've
done it before. But you've got to go to horseneck
.com, sign up for our newsletter, and then we
will send you the details. We will go to it.
Very nice. We'll show up. It's a lot of fun.
It'll be a lot of fun. It's going to be at the
Star. We are at the, I don't know, the residential.
You're going to the Gents? No, not the chance.
There's a residential building there that we've
got access to. Oh, your friend. Okay. The social
space. And we'll have a semi -open bar because
we cannot actually serve, but we'll have horse
neck and other bourbons. Hold on. How does that
work? Is there like a cooler there and everyone
just does their shit? No, no. It'll be bottles
on a bar and you just pour your own. If you like.
We might be introducing a high rye bourbon. Yes.
I'm just saying. You heard it first here on Dudes
Like That's Mine. You did. I can't promise, but
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we'll see the details. And Darren will be wearing
a dress also. Is that a .k .a. a kilt? Because
I'll wear mine. You could. That would be great.
I have a kilt. We're not talking about kilts.
I'm pretty sure. You like that boomerang back
on you there, buddy? I have a great kilt story.
One year I went to Fort Worth to the Marine Band
concept of whatever American Marine Band is there,
all the kilts and bagpipes and stuff to a performance
over there at Bass Hall. One of the best performances
I've ever seen. It was their version of the American
Marine Band, whatever they call it. Nice. Did
you wear your kilt? No, but the doctor I took,
did where him and his dad wore their kilts. With
the junk hanging out? I didn't look that close.
Did they flash you? No. Every time I wear mine,
everyone's like, what are you wearing under that?
This past year, for St. Petty's Day, at my house,
we had a celebration and I wore my kilt. What
did you wear under it? People arriving at 5.
At 4, 40, I was sitting at my desk and I was
trying to do some work in my kilt. Imagine that.
That's kind of strange to say that. I was sitting
there doing it and I was like... You mentioned
sweaty balls. I Google Not animation, but penis
balls. So that's your Google search now. Yeah,
I know. It's not just my search engine, but my
work laptop. So we pull up this penis, right?
And I print it. bring it over to a document,
I print it up, and I cut it out, and I staple
it to my underwear. Oh, it's hilarious. If you
go to our Instagram, because we're on Facebook
and Instagram, if you go to our Instagram, you'll
see that I've got my kilt and then underneath
it. In fact, I held it on there for a long time.
I didn't tell anybody. And then your wife, of
all people, your wife, of all people. Hello,
Sean, what's under there? And I was like, well,
let me show you. Excuse me while I whip this
thing out. You waited so long. She was like,
oh my. She was like, stop it. She was like, seriously.
She laughed. Anyways, it was fun. Okay, just
a Starz update. Live from New York. No, Edmonton.
Edmonton. Talk like a Canadian. Yeah, really.
Hey, I gave you an update, eh? Can I talk? It's
Oilers 2, Stars 1. It's the beginning of the
third. We're okay. So you're saying there's a
chance. Come on, Stars. There's a chance. God
bless. All right. All right. Good. All right.
So I think there's a couple of deaths that have
happened, and I know you reacted to one specifically.
Rick Derringer. Rick Derringer. Okay. Help me
with this. I know the name, but I'm struggling
with the face. Rick Derringer? Yeah. There you
go. Right there. That's BTO. Good song. Hell
yeah. I thought that was BTO. He had a nice set
of hair right there. Look at that. Beautiful.
Beautiful blonde hair. He's got rock and roll.
He's got a little slow syndrome going on. I think
Darren Light because of tights. That's right,
Darren Light. That's Rick Derringer, huh? That's
Rick Derringer. All right, so of the band, what's
the band? Rick Derringer. Rick Derringer. Oh,
that's really just the band name is Rick Derringer?
Well, that's a person. I know, but I was expecting
a little pomp and circumstance. What's going
on? I don't think it's Rick Derringer and the
band. I think it's just Rick Derringer. Check
out the shoulder strap guitar. Yeah, really.
Is that Edgar Winter? Yeah. Oh, it sure is. Look
at this. Did he play with them? He produced Frankenstein.
That's Edgar, yeah. Albino Edgar. I used to have
hair that long. I got to confess here, guys.
I didn't know who Rick Derringer was. I thought
he was a wrestler. He was. That's Rick Flair.
That's Rick Flair. I am Rick Flair, the President
of the United States. What the hell, man? Different.
I hate being the ignorant one. I did not know
he died. How old was he? 77. 72, I thought, or
76 maybe. Okay. Damn, that's close. So what were
the other big, are there other hits that I would
know? I definitely knew that song. I definitely
knew that song. Hang on, Sloopy? Oh, Sloopy Hang
On? You know that one. Oh, I know that one. Slurpy?
Slurpy, yes. No. I was going to say, it's big
at Ohio State. So how long did Edgar Winter play
with him? Were they together for a while? I don't
know. I know that Rick Derringer. That song came
out in 1965. Oh, it says right there, too. Hang
on, Slippy. Yeah, there it is. There's the...
Wow. Frankenstein, yeah. He produced that album
for Edgar Winner Group. Well, rest in peace.
So he must have went off on his own afterwards,
Edgar Winner. All right, how old was he? Do we
know? 77. Rest in peace. Wow. You know, when
you meet people like my dad, for example, who's
now in his 80s. He's 83 now -ish. And just the
fact that he's beat the average. Beat the average.
I mean, what is the average right now? 73? 74,
75. Yeah. Damn. I'll tell you a dad story. My
dad's 92. Good for you, man. Recently got diagnosed
with colon cancer during the visit with the doctor.
He asked them, he said, okay, if I get treatment,
what's the statistics? What's the outcome? Four
percent. Doctor told him, you've outlived all
the statistics, Joe. We have no statistics after
whatever age. And he was being honest. They have
nothing. You've outlived them. That's refreshing.
It is. Well done. Yeah. Well done. Live on. So
is he going to go with the program? No, no, no.
He's chosen to just live it out, enjoy his life.
He's doing well. I would do the same thing. So
it's tough. Go ahead. Why? It's argumentative
to go through all these processes of chemotherapy
that it just kills your body. Well, sometimes
the doctor has the hard conversation with you.
My dad last year went in. to get, he was having
congestive heart failure and they were thinking
about putting a pacemaker in. And they came and
says, I don't think it's a good idea. It's not
going to improve your life. It's not going to
lengthen your life. But it's going to put you
through a lot of stress. Right. So they decided
not to do it. Right. So sometimes it's a conversation
that even the doctor knows that, hey, this is
not going to improve. When you find a good doctor,
they'll have that conversation. My mother -in
-law moved in with us years ago with pancreatic
cancer. Last six months of her life and went
to a doctor. That's some quick stuff. The nurse
is taking her medical history and she smoked.
The nurse is like, you should really consider
giving up smoking. The doctor walks in and goes,
Cheryl, you can smoke and drink all you want.
At this point in life, enjoy yourself. He was
being real. And Twinkies and Ding Dongs are not
a bad idea. Here's a good bourbon story. My mother
-in -law lives with us. She's 91. Oh, wow. And
about three, maybe four nights a week, she'll
say, she calls me, she goes, honey, can I have
my cocktail? Her favorite drink. Hold on, is
that your mother -in -law? My mother -in -law.
And her favorite drink is a little shot of Buffalo
Trace. No, what is she? Buffalo Trace. Where's
she from? She's from Peru. Peru, yeah. She's
from Peru. That's why it's coffee. And about
three nights a week, I gave her a little bit
of Buffalo Trace. So I actually, probably about
a year ago, you guys know how hard it is to find.
It's easier now, but it used to be really hard
to find Buffalo Trace. And when you could find
it, it was really expensive. Online, I found
the president of Sazerac, Buffalo Trace. And
I wrote him an email and I said, my mother -in
-law, I've tried other bourbons. She doesn't
like anything other than Buffalo Trace. Can you
help a guy out? He wrote me back in 15 minutes.
No. And he said. We already love your grandma.
Here's the VP of the region. Contact him. I did.
He contacted me in 15 minutes. I've got an unlimited
supply of Buffalo Trace for my mother -in -law.
Okay, hold on. It's my mother -in -law. Hi, my
name is Paul. My name is Paul. My mother -in
-law is 118 years old, and she will die without
Buffalo Trace. So is that what you said? No,
what you got to do is whatever bourbon you like.
Oh, whatever. There you go. Substitute whatever.
I'm just going to make a, what do you call it?
I really like Pappy Van Winkle. I'm going to
make it a form letter and send it to everybody.
Everybody, yes. Everybody to story. That was
brilliant. Oh, yeah. And she really is getting.
So it's funny. What are you saying? They ship
you? No, no. I mean, so he introduced me to the
VP. The VP, there's a store up in Frisco that
has like a huge supply. And I walked up and I
said, here's the story. The regional VP of the
distributor told me to come here. He goes, oh,
yeah, I'll sell you a bottle. I wrote the president
back, and I said, great customer service. Appreciate
you. Appreciate your VP. He wrote back, and he
goes, hey, good luck. I'm glad you found it.
Next time you're in Kentucky, write me, and I'll
do a special tour for you guys. Oh, my God. Did
you take advantage of that? Not yet. We haven't
gone yet. We'll go back. By the way, he's the
hell out of that. By the way, with a little bit
of makeup, I can be your 91 -year -old mother
-in -law. I can look like your mother -in -law.
Shout out. What are you saying? With a little
bit of makeup. I don't want you living. But you'd
be living with me. This seems to be a common
problem. Can you request the bourbon way as mother
-in -law requests the bourbon? Let's see if you
can. Honey? Maybe. Cock. Wow. You've got to accentuate
that. I'm not doing that. Thanks, Jim. I'm not
doing that. You know what? The bets are off here.
All right. Let's move on. What a crazy story.
It's a great story. You know what? That gives
you hope that people in this industry still care.
Still care. Absolutely. You know what I mean?
Absolutely. Because it's not so hard. And when
it comes to mother -in -laws, I won the sweepstakes
because she's awesome. She is. She's really awesome.
She's from Peru. Peru. Very nice. Everybody that
goes over there calls her mom. When we go over
for life group and stuff and say, hey, mom, how
you doing? How you doing, mom? She's good. And
she's kicking and she's got a feisty attitude.
Doing great. Yep. A little slow getting around,
but then aren't we all as we get older? Oh, yeah.
If she was in Pennsylvania. I'm slow getting
around. What the hell, man? Yeah, dude, he got
a walker going. Yeah, if she was in Pennsylvania
or my dad was down here, we'd introduce the two
together. Absolutely. Absolutely. That is an
awesome story. Yep. Super cool. So thank you,
Buffalo Trace. Absolutely. That's a good story
because you hear some of these big corporations
not doing that kind of customer service. It's
like 8 o 'clock or 9 o 'clock at night and in
15 minutes he sent me an email and he said, talk
to this person and we'll take care of you. Outstanding.
Do you say every night? About three or four nights
a week, yeah. You know, it's funny because my
– go ahead. No, no. She notices the difference,
right? Well, that's why I wrote him because one
night I was out at Buffalo Trace and I tried
another bourbon. And I said, Grandma, do you
like it? She goes, oh, yeah, it was good, honey.
And the next day my wife said she did not like
the bourbon you gave her last night. Please tell
me it wasn't horse neck. It was not horse neck.
Good answer, Darren. Maybe you should try another
– Use Buffalo Trace to steal his products. Maybe
give her, not necessarily the foolproof or the
120 pry proof, but they put out with like three
or four different bottles from Benchmark. There's
three or four different ones. Hey, why would
he? He has a lifetime supply of Buffalo Trace.
Exactly. Brother, you scored. I did score. You
are good. Do you get the big old Magnums? I mean,
I have before, but not for her. No, Paul. I'm
not talking about condoms. She drinks about just
a little bit every night. So my grandmother,
when I was a kid, she used to drink gin and tonics.
No. What's a vermouth? A highball. Martini. Martini?
Yeah. And she used to sit there and she would
put her glass on her head. And that meant me.
Come make her a drink. You know, I mean, I don't
know. Do we all have memories of our grandmothers
and drinking and, you know, and that kind of
thing? And so I would and she would tell me a
thimble, a thimble of vermouth and this much,
you know, whatever. And I would used to make
it and I'd take it over to her. And I mean, it
was fun. She was a drinker. Gay. Gay. My grandmother's
story. Why would you say that? What the hell,
man? All right, my bad. No, no. Can you pass
me that? That deserves here. That should be a
soccer card. That's a red card. It's a red card.
But you know what? I apologize for him. If we
had video and they saw you prop up, she really
put the glass on her head. Put it on her head.
And you were a bartender back when you were six?
No, I was probably in middle school. I was probably
in middle school. Were you sipping on the mix?
You were a bartender? I would stumble there and
back. I was shit -faced. Were you down here in
Texas, Ray? Did she have big hair? Were you just
like way up here? No, it was kind of the matted
down blue hair. You know how it is. Do not make
fun of her, Grandma. I was asking. I was asking.
My bad. My bad. Yeah, this is going to be remembered.
Yeah, and he jumped right on it, too. Thank you.
I thought she was nice with the big hair. I was
asking. No, no. She was asking. Ask her if she's
available. Oh. Is she in Pennsylvania? Wow. Birds
of a feather. Wow. Too soon? Too soon. Yeah,
maybe. Too soon. Maybe. All right, look. This
is great. It's been fun. You guys having a good
time? It's been fun. It's been a great time.
If you'll have us back, we'll come back sometime.
You guys are welcome anytime. I'd say every fiscal
quarter, just dial it in. You guys are close.
You're right around the corner. Most of these
guys are coming from out of town, out of state.
It's like a big deal. You guys can come anytime.
And it doesn't need to be on Tuesday. But remember,
we might be doing video, so do a little touch
-up maybe? It's hard to improve on this. A little
work? Oh, whatever. I subscribe to that. A little
nip and tuck for you guys? I don't know. A little
Botox? A lot of Botox. Paralyze everything? Jesus.
Everything? Do you see how much work we need?
What the hell? This is obviously the second half
of the podcast. It is. It is. But you know what?
It's fun. It's something we enjoy doing. It's
a hobby that we hope that this thing goes to
the next level. We have no idea where this is
going to take us. For sure. But I tell you one
thing we do know. We all love doing it. We all
love each other. You guys are great. This is
a very fun thing for us. Yes, it is. We enjoy
it. And we enjoy you guys coming on here and
sharing your gospel. Yeah, we love your story.
Love it. Thank you. Support us. Buy a lot of...
Horseneck. Horseneck. Buffalo neck. What a weird
thing to tell somebody, Darren. What a weird
thing to tell somebody. Shout out to the Horseneck
community out there because the products that
they have with the variety pack, with the Horseneck
ready to drink stuff. It's a winner. There's
not other stuff out there like it. Period. There's
not. And the fact that they don't use all that
nefarious sweeteners and all that bullshit corn
syrup they put in there. It does have extra fluoride,
doesn't it? Thank you. I don't think it does.
Next batch. But we tried all four. We enjoyed
all four. They're all fantastic. We're trying
to get Robert Kennedy to endorse us. There you
go. Two different horse neck bourbon releases,
whiskey releases, the sherry, and then the 101
double barrel. Excellent. Excellent. Thank you.
Highly recommended. I'm excited to hear about
your limited releases. We'll come back to you
more. Let's stick a pin in this. Regarding the
next step for you guys have an event coming up.
What is that event? June 27th. June 27th. Yep.
Again, horsenegg .com. Sign up for the newsletter.
We'll give you all the details. Bourbon Exchange.
Excellent. There you go. Let's knock this out.
Thank you, Mr. Chuck, for staying on top of the
shit. Yes. Excellent podcast. Thank you guys
so much. It is May 27th, 2025. Dudes Like Us.
I'm Sean. I'm Paul. I'm Jeff. I am Jim. And I'm
Darren.