Houston, we are venting something into space.
What a great movie. Apollo 13 is one of the best
movies I've ever seen, to be honest. Classic.
It is. Absolutely. So underrated. Hey, Chuck,
you mind pushing Mixbus 3 back up a couple clicks?
I think my ears have bugged out. Thank you. What,
your hearing has gotten better? Man, you know
what? Bourbon increases your hearing? Being in
Texas, I'm sure it's like this everywhere, but
my allergies are just off. Dude, I'm dizzy. I
hate it. My ears are all discombobulated. Horrible.
I'm coughing, sniffing. Just a barnyard animal
over here. Drink more bourbon. Yeah, we've had
a lot of crazy weather. We had 100 degrees last
week. I think it's the barometric pressure, just
the shit weather going up and down this time
of year. Yeah. Causes problems with my brain.
To hell with it. It might be the estrogen, guys.
Is that a thing? It's your thing. Why is that?
Estrogen. Too much estrogen. How's that my thing?
Because you're female. Well, you know how they
treat prostate cancer. That's right. They give
you estrogen. Yes. Do they really? Yes. What?
I thought they used radiation. Because testosterone
is a prostate cancer feeder. It's hungry for
testosterone. So if you get prostate cancer,
they give you estrogen to stop your testosterone.
So are they giving that to Joe Biden right now?
Yes. A ton of estrogen. So does it enhance the
female characteristics if you do the estrogen?
It makes you feel pretty. I feel pretty. Good
Lord. All right, see, second half. Obviously,
the second half of the Dude's Like Us podcast.
It's May 20th. We have a special guest tonight.
We're going to be a little bit off the hook.
I think we've drank a little bit more than we
normally do, right? Yeah, a little bit. And we're
drinking a powerhouse tonight. Ooh, that's all
right. Tomorrow's going to be a long day. But
you know what? I'm having fun, and it's great
conversations. We're all great friends and digging
the shit out of tonight. Chuck, thank you. Mr.
Producer, Dude's Like Us. I'm Sean. I'm Paul.
I am Jeff. I'm Barry. Barry, we have a shitload
of topics. The first half, we pretty much outlined
your RD1 spirits. We're going to dive into that.
I still want to talk a little bit about the history.
It's so interesting. Yeah. And we're super glad
that you're on the show. I want to kind of talk
about you because I think at the very end last
time we talked about dark tours. Dark tours.
Yes. Why don't you blend into that real quick
before we start hitting some of these other ones.
All right. So I attended the James Beam Institute.
It's a training session. It's a nerd training
session. But we had a mortician from Louisville.
who came and did a talk about dark tours. And
so what she does, it's very respectful. It's
not an Instagram, you know, smiley moment. It's
taking people on a tour and maybe going to a
cemetery or going to an area that had some strife
or, you know, some death and touching and feeling
the tombstone. Or, you know, like for me, William
Tarr, I've got some of the artifacts of his house.
So I want to do a tour where I'm talking about
the history, but then we're touching and feeling
that gold medal from 1904, or we're touching
some of the things of the artifacts from William
Tarr's homestead. Yeah, nice. And what it does
is it creates this emotional connection, you
know, this this moment, this memory moment where
you're putting your emotions into it and really
creating something that you just can't create
by just doing a tasting. So they're at the new
distillery is what you're kind of thinking of
having it or. Yeah, I'm still this is still in
development. She's already doing this in Louisville
and other areas. You're touching something. Yep.
And is there like a transference of frequency?
What is this? Is this ether? You know, I'm not
really one to believe in ghosts, although I do
believe I am possessed by some distiller from
the 1800s. I do believe that there has been some
kind of possession because there's no way that,
you know, what we've accomplished. that that
would have happened without supernatural interference.
Really? You believe that? I believe it. You're
not kidding around. I'm not. I've said it several
times. Well, reincarnation can be a real thing.
It's out there. Yeah. Interesting. There are
kids that have been interviewed that are five
or six years old that should not have any knowledge.
of certain things that they have knowledge of.
Or they know like a second language. That being
one of them. It's like, where'd that come from?
That's weird how the brain works. You also hear
about these people who get hit in the head, and
all of a sudden they'll get an accent, like an
English accent. Because they're dredging up an
old life. Oh, I don't know. I don't know what
Cosby said. Give me a bourbon, I'll have a New
York accent, man. Yes. Give me a couple, I'll
do Anakin. It's tantalizing. I'll do the guy
from Star Wars. That's Bill Cosby. Yeah, don't
be that guy. Oh, no. Don't be either of those.
If you can choose, don't be either of those.
All right, so Barry, you were possessed. So,
no, who's the guy that's possessing you then?
I'm not sure. It's either William. tar it's mcgibbon
actually one of my descendants had a gold medal
that distilled back in the 1800s so i don't know
i don't know i think that there is some plausibility
that i could be possessed no yeah that sounds
very uh that's Influenced. Sounds nefarious.
How about influenced? How about influenced? Not
really possessed. Does that mean it's taking
you over in an evil kind of way? Yeah, and my
head doesn't rotate, you know. Right, you don't
vomit on everybody. No, no, no. I might burp,
but... Okay, well, we all do that. There is no
Zool here, only Barry. Oh, my goodness. Oh, my
goodness. Okay, all right, so... Well, I think
that's very cool because, you know, I've seen
some things, and I'm not going to say it's the
same, but I know over in England, they'll have,
like, the Jack the Ripper tours, where you go
to where... It's a white chapel where he kind
of did his thing, and... Oh, that's dark. Yeah,
they have these tours where all the ladies were
found and all that stuff. That's so creepy. It
is. That is really dark. You're celebrating the
life of a serial killer. I don't know about that.
But what you're doing is you're experiencing
something that it's creating this connection,
this emotional connection. And positive or negative,
I mean, I think that it's... you're kind of living
in that moment sure you know so so i think that
when when you look at enhancing an experience
and you bring emotion into it all bets are off
yeah you could you could have some people that
really connect with that kind of a tour yeah
so you know for me i think it just adds a whole
different dimension not everyone's going to want
to do it you know you're making me think you
know you know how it's like uh universal studios
yeah and all those they create They create an
experience. How could someone like you in your
distillery create a this is what it was like
to make bourbon back in 1860? That could definitely
happen. How could you do that? Man, I'll tell
you what. How cool would that be? I'm thinking.
I'm thinking. How cool would that be? Absolutely.
That would be super, super cool. You'd have to
get some really good thespians to work and play
the part of. Wait, wait. No, no. Fezbians. Fezbians.
Fezbians. Actors. Yeah, actors. Actors, because,
you know, to sell the story, right? Because even
the Jack of the Ripper, the footage I see these
late, these people are very dramatic and telling
the story and everything. And these people are
getting all into it. They're wearing the costumes
and they're acting and they're doing. Like, think
about that. Would that work? Would that be something
you could do? One of the things that I'm doing,
and I'm actually, I've done this already. Y 'all
have heard of the Whiskey Crusaders here in Dallas.
It's a social club. that is the only private
social club that has a liquor license. And it's
here in Dallas. Last year, I did a repeal day
event. where we're all dressing up in 1920s garb.
Dude. Yes. Like Peaky Blinders. Yeah, exactly,
exactly. But the same thing is we're talking
about that history of prohibition. We're talking
about the cocktail culture, how people responded
differently to underground speakeasies. I'm doing
the same thing in Atlanta. on june 28th on a
saturday down in atlanta at the red phone booth
speakeasy super doing the same thing and so what
i want to do is i want to do the this this kind
of dinner theater where we're all kind of in
character you know we're all in character super
cool i mean how much fun would it would be cool
yeah and do a murder mystery same thing yeah
exactly the the murder of bourbon oh what if
the alter ego comes out Yeah, William Tarr. Boy,
I say, boy. Now, boy, I say, boy, that boy's
about as quick. How nervous is a cat with a 50
-foot tail and a room full of rocketeers? Pay
attention when I'm talking to you, boy. I say
I'm going to take you out to the woods and learn
you about scouting and woodcraft. Wow. Is that
Foghorn Leghorn? Yeah, you're leading him away
from this idea right now. Not even really cool,
actually. That would be fun. They had a downtown
Frisco. They had a church that was converted
to a restaurant, and I don't even know what it
is. It was called The Loft. It was the restaurant.
Yeah. They had on Saturdays or Sunday nights,
they had - Like the Abbey? The Mystery Theater.
That's what it was, the Abbey. Yes, yes, exactly.
They had Mystery Theater, and they'd have people
go in there, and they would act out, and you'd
have dinner. Mystery Science Theater 3000? No,
no, no. That's funny. No, what is it when you
sit and have dinner, and there's people that
act in front of you? What do they call that?
Weird. Dinner Theater. Dinner Theater. Dinner
Theater, whatever. It wasn't like a play. It
was kind of like something you would participate
in for a mystery, like a popcorn theater type.
I don't know. Absolutely. No, I mean, it's like
a little play. The people that work there have
their character parts, and they act out a...
Oh, here we go. This is Whiskey Crusaders. Look
at that. Yeah. Nice. Why do we not know about
any of this stuff? You have to know about this.
There's over, I don't know how many whiskeys
they have, but all kinds of whiskeys. They probably
have 4 ,000 or 5 ,000 different whiskeys there.
We're getting close. Hold on. Go back up. I want
Monk. Pump your numbers up. I like Monk Whiskey
Quest. That's what I want. Because it's $20.
That's not why. But that looks cool. What do
they do there? As whiskey is not their cup of
tea. It's for spouses. Who like to attend. Screw
that. While the real men go and play, that's
for the spouses. It says right there, for spouses.
Yeah, never mind. Wow. What a spouse. What a
spouse. What a spouse. Hey, man. That's funny.
Just passing it through. All right. So do we
have the theme for Cheers queued? Yeah, we should.
We should raise a glass to this gentleman. Yes.
I'll tell you what. This guy, is it Norm Peterson?
Is that his name? Norm Peterson. Or is that a
character? That's his character. Oh, yeah. What's
his real name? George Wendt. George Wendt. So,
you know. We all grew up with Cheers, right?
How about a montage of Norm? Can you find that
for me? Oh, yeah. I got that, too. Yeah, yeah.
Look that up. Look at that. Let's do a montage
of Norm. Let's get the song going here first.
Okay. Turn that up a little bit. Dude, totally
remember this song. Cheers, buddy. Cheers. Cheers
to Norm. To Norm. And Cliff Clavin. Awesome.
And it pulls the service about 15 years. You
do that very, very well, by the way. I was listening
to the last podcast and we were talking about
Cheers because we were talking about sitcoms.
God, you got that down. Wow, that's loud. What
is that noise? That's Chuck. Chuck, stop touching
yourself. All right, well, that's Norm walking
in for the 10th time. He's in good shape there.
Oh, so that's what this is. Yeah, but he always
had. How's life treating you, Norm? I just ran
over his dog. Yeah, he always had something.
Norman? Norman? I didn't realize this was a thing.
So every time he walks in the bar, he's got a
different gesture. Yes. He had a one -liner every
time. I never realized that. Yes. You were 12
at the time. That was his entrance. His entrance.
He's getting big. My nipples, it's freezing on
me. Good night, everybody. Good night. I'll tell
you what. Cheers to his life and what he did.
He's a lot of fun. Cheers, guys. Here we go.
A little bit of a different thing. I don't think
we've ever cheered. Have we cheered somebody
on this? I believe we have. I think we have.
Val Kilmer, maybe? Yeah. Oh, my God. I think
we did. Please don't jam me. Okay. Wow. Too soon?
Maybe. You guys are jerks. I don't think it's
ever not going to be too soon. Yeah. I almost
didn't put that in. I almost didn't add that.
But you did. You did. You did. So we were talking
about Val, and he passed away, and then Jeff.
Of course. And you know what? That's all right.
It's all fun. I got to say this. So we listened
to the last podcast, Shelly and I driving back
from Austin. Shelly's his wife. Yes. Driving
back from Austin. And you had a couple nuggets
in there. And Shelly was like, what did you do?
She was confused. I was like. Jeff does that
after the fact, and it's great. And she was like,
oh, my God, that's funny. Nailed it. It totally,
yes. So he adds these little snippets after we
record, and it totally works. It totally works.
Post -production. You know, we're looking, hopefully,
we bought cameras. So we're hoping to upgrade
the podcast. Yes. You have to add cameras. You
know, I mean, the visual, getting on YouTube,
I think it enhances what you all do. Right. And,
I mean, what we're doing right here, looking
at each other, it's so much fun. Oh, yeah. The
camera. You got to do the camera. It just adds
the spirit of what's a little bit more. Well,
I think it brings in. And we're so good looking.
We are really good looking. Yeah, studs. I mean,
the more that we drink, man, you guys are looking
great. Look at the head on that beer. I'd be
pissed. Oh, that's a lot of head. And look at
his face. He's like, what the fuck, man? I'm
going to drink in this broth. I bet him. So he's
a good looking older dude, by the way. By the
way, look at that. That's the older picture of
him. He looks the same, but gray. Well, I was
going to say, normally you look at actors or
actresses and you see their older picture and
you're like, what the fuck, man? What happened?
He's a good looking dude. That's pretty cool.
The final episode of Cheers was 32 years ago
today. Oh, wow. Holy shit. And he was in the
final scene. I'm old. When they were closing
the bar. Wow. That must have been very emotional
for people who loved that show. We watched it
all the way to the end. Well, hell, they didn't
have 5 ,000 networks out there at that time.
They had, what, the standard three, right? ABC,
NBC, CBS, PBS. Yeah. Fox started rolling around
the corner and TNT and then WGN and all the other.
So his counterpart was a postal worker? Oh, Cliff
Clavin? I don't think I knew that. Cliff Clavin.
Oh, Cliff Clavin. Yeah, it's Cliff Clavin. And
they made him a pollster. He's been in the pollster
service about 15 years. He's wearing it so well.
It's creepy. So they make him wear a uniform
and everything. I don't think I realized that.
That's crazy. You know, I happen to be an expert
at the mythology of crystal schools. I bet he
did. Oh, my gosh. It was weird. I think on one
of the shows, they called for him and his superior
knowledge about something. And they were like,
dude, you're full of shit. And then it turned
out he wasn't full of shit. He knew exactly what
he was talking about. But nobody knew until that
last second. And I wish I watched the entire
show all the time. You know what show I've been
watching a lot? I just started binge watching.
It's always Sunny in Philadelphia. Gilmore Girls.
No. Yeah, that one was first. It's Always Sunny
in Philadelphia. I don't know if you guys...
You've talked about that a lot. That's Danny
DeVito. I'm telling you, man. I've watched that
show a ton, but I haven't watched it for five,
six plus years, whatever. And I popped it in
there, season one, and it's just so freaking
funny. And then when Danny DeVito gets in there,
it just adds a layer of... crackheadness that
is just hilarious. I laugh at every single show.
I think we tried to watch it and maybe we stalled
out in the first episode. It's tough. The first
season is not as good, I don't think. Is that
what it is? You just have to fight through it.
Looks like they're using a camcorder for one
thing. They are. They still have the short screen.
They didn't have widescreen when it first started.
In fact, the widescreen didn't even impact them
until the fifth season. And so, you know, it's
hilarious. I freaking love it. And there's such
pieces of shit, and I fit right in with them.
Oh, there we go. That's why we figured you. Now
we know. Right, right. If you want to be like
Sean, then watch that show. I'm telling you,
it's a great show. Yeah. I know we're talking
about death basically norm. The other one is
he hasn't died yet, but he has predicted himself
to die by summer. Joe Biden? No. He's not predicting
it, but he's not long. He's not long. What's
his name? Scott Adams? Scott Adams, yeah. Yeah,
he announced, was it yesterday on a podcast,
that he has the same cancer that Joe Biden does.
And he basically says, you know, he is expected
to die this summer. And this is the Dilbert comic
creator. And he's actually said that. Since he
lives in California, he's going to take advantage
of the - Dignified death? Yes. So I think once
the point where he gets - Oh, I don't know what
his - You can do that? In California, you can.
Is that the only state? Probably Washington,
Oregon, you can, but I don't know. Yeah, no,
Washington, Oregon, and California, I think,
are all. Yeah, in fact, he lobbied. He helped
lobby for it. Is Dr. Kevorkian still alive? No,
I think this is just a cocktail that they drink.
No, I mean, but is he still alive? I don't know.
That's a good question. I don't know. But, yeah,
he has prostate cancer, and it metastasized,
and now he's just in pain every day. Yeah, he's
miserable. Yeah, yeah. And he still does his
podcast. you know, in the mornings. And he used
to do one at night, too, called The Man Cave.
And he's just like, I had to quit because it
was just so miserable by the end of the day.
It's got to be tough living in California because
only in California do you have listed on every
freaking product it gives cancer. You know, it's
like, I guess, well, move out of the damn state,
you know? It's like everything. This gives cancer
in California. Well, what about the other freaking
49 states, you know? Have y 'all been out there
lately? I was out there a couple of years ago.
Oh, my God. I mean, I, you know, lived in Camp
Pendleton, San Diego, and just recently last
year went to L .A. and San Francisco. Doesn't
even look like the same state. Really? Well,
it's just it's so crazy. You got people that
are, you know, homeless. that are walking the
street. It's like the walking dead. But we have
that in Texas, too. You know, I mean, Sean and
I just downtown Austin. Downtown Austin. Austin,
yes. Not to the impact that California has. But
they allow it. But there's good parts. You know,
San Diego, there's some good parts of that. There's
Silicon Valley is really clean and nice. We went
out there for a Cowboys game. It was really pretty,
and I enjoyed it. California's a beautiful state,
and it's unfortunate that it's run. down to the
shit and it and it burned to the ground and parts
you know that was crazy in la yeah um sacramento
great location love the uh people up there but
you know i mean you just got to look at the silver
linings right you know some some places are better
than others but you know holy crap yeah la is
a some of those some of those policies have have
have challenged that state How? My God. If I
could say it in a very nice way. Yeah, yeah.
Go ahead. Say it. No, that's what I'm saying.
That is the nice way. The policies are challenging.
It's challenging for the people that live there,
challenging for the people that want to make
a difference and change the state. They can't.
They keep voting for it, though. Yes, that's
what I'm saying. It just keeps happening. They
complain about it, but they keep voting. It's
a weird culture. It's weird. It's like a suicidal
culture. Why wouldn't... Masochism. Yeah, exactly.
Why wouldn't they... How is it that they don't
recognize that it's not working? I think they're
dug in. Is that what it is? I think so. They're
just dug in. They've made up their mind. Look,
Gavin Newsom is finally... And they can't be
wrong? They can't be wrong? It's not working.
Even the governor is starting to come back and
re... I wonder why. Well, I mean, he wants to
run for president. He wants to try to clear his
slate. But the point is that he's recognizing
it. He's talking about it. And I think the more
that we all talk about these things that we have
in common, because you can't. It's a good thing.
You can't disagree with certain things. I mean,
you just have to. I mean, we're Americans. Americans
should be first. Americans. Americans. Damn it.
Damn it, Bobby. No, I agree. I agree. It's just,
you know, I'm trying not to dive into this too
much. I mean, he was on the Charlie Kirk podcast,
and he had some fantastic revelations on there.
You know, just came out and said it. You know,
and I don't want to bring it up because I don't
want to make it. That was actually his podcast.
Yeah, that was his. Oh, that Charlie Kirk was
on. That's right. And it was a very unusual pairing.
I mean, you're talking about kind of. I don't
want to say arch enemies, but you talk about
far left, far right. They're polarized for sure.
And those two guys came together and they talked
about stuff. But Charlie Kirk kept them in check.
But that's encouraging. He kept them in check
because he was keeping it real. It was like,
look, man, you've got to. Well, he kept them
in check. He got a lot of pushback, too. Gavin
got a lot of flack for saying those things. Even
hosting him. Well, even hosting him, but also
saying the things that. He did. He was being
somewhat moderate. I think that's important,
though. I think that it's important that he received
the flack because you've got to start monitoring
who is giving him flack. Yeah. Who's actually
criticizing this? Pick them out. Pick them out
in the lineup. Start recognizing those folks
and then call them out. Look, we've got to start
being more educated. We've got to start learning
who these bad actors are. I don't know. And voting
appropriately. Yeah. You got to vote them out.
You got to start making smart decisions. It's
about you. It's about your family. It's about
God. It's about you and your family and the longevity
of what you got going on. And all this other
stuff needs to just eviscerate. Just go away.
Tell you what scares me, though, is we have a
lot of Californians moving here to Texas. Yeah.
We do. And I think, and what I've heard, is it's
a lot of the... uh conservative folks that are
leaving but i don't think that's a hundred percent
of the case because you have a lot of corporations
relocating here as well right which bring the
people with them which are not always what you
want but right uh you know i think texas is still
fairly red but if that keeps happening you're
going to start seeing some shifts i think he's
purple well let's let's talk about this so what
communities are i mean majority red But we can
say Austin's probably blue. Every big city is
blue short of Fort Worth. San Antonio, Houston,
Dallas, and Austin are all staunchly blue. And
El Paso. Really? Yes. Wow, that's a lot. It's
just everywhere else is red. The four major cities
are staunchly blue. Really? And that's because
they're sucking on the city teat. Correct. The
state teat. It's just that Texas is so large
and there's so many people here that it offsets
those cities. Yeah. Correct. Yeah. And it's the
standard story, right? You see the map of Republican
and Democrat of the United States, and it's like
tons of red, right? All over the place. But then
you see the blue dots. Little constellations
everywhere. Same thing for Texas. You see a massive
red state with blue, blue, blue, blue, blue,
which is the five metropolitan areas, right?
Which is where all the people are, which is where
the majority of the votes come from. Right. So
that's exactly what California's like. Except
I think more of their population is along the
coast where those cities are than here in Texas,
right? So their population is more condensed
in those cities than it is here in Texas, I think.
True. That's the truth. I mean, I don't want
to throw stones at either party because it's
yin and yang. You need both. You need both to
survive because we do need Democrats. Yeah, you
need balance. And you need Republicans. You need
them both. But I think the Dems went... too far
is what happened. They went too far and they
need to come back. You know what you hear, these
blue dog Democrats. That's what we want back.
Yeah, where are they? Where are they? They need
to get more vocal. Well, they're still out there,
but the progressive... The blue dog Democrats
are now the Republican rhinos. You know, that's
a great statement. That's exactly what it is.
It seems to be that way. Yeah, the progressives
took over the Democrat party. So when I say Democrat,
you're really saying progressives at this point,
because that's what you hear. I actually believe
that we're in a state in this country where a
third party can actually can actually rise. I
could see some weird Ross Perot. So right now
we're seeing polarization, a significant polarization,
right? A drift to far left and a drift to far
right, where this central, this centrist idea
of from both parties. can drift into a party
where it's like, dude, come on, man. I'm in the
middle. And they can agree. Blue middle, red
middle. And I can actually see the birth of a
third party that is something like that. Maybe
the wigs will make a comeback. The wigs. As long
as they wear wigs. Yeah. Yes. Are they going
to wear wigs? Big powdered wig. Yes. All right.
All right. So that's our foray into politics.
But let's talk about sports. Sports! Let's talk
about the Dallas Stars, baby! Oh, that's soccer.
I'll tell you what, they're kicking butt. Dude,
they are kicking butt. They won 4 -2 in the second
round. So they played the Colorado Avalanche
in the first series. That's right, and they won
4 -3. In overtime. In overtime. Oh, God. Yeah,
that was quite the game, too. To go 3 -3 and
then hit the seventh game and then have him go
in overtime. It was insane. Yeah. That's always
great. And then the Winnipeg Jets. Yes. And game
six was dramatic. It wasn't overtime, though,
was it? Yeah, it was overtime. Yes, it was overtime.
I got to tell you, too, on a side note with just
Canadian teams right now. I mean, look, there's
some banter going on right now because of the
bullshit politics going on between Canada and
America, United States, and just the disrespect
that they're extending to each other because
of the tariffs that Trump is imposing. I think
it's more the 51st state and the governor. The
whole annexing thing. Well, rightfully so. I
mean, I don't know. And you know what's so funny
about this is that So, like, Winnipeg in game
one, I guess it was Winnipeg, they booed the
national anthem. Yeah. Not cool, man. Right?
Not cool. And what's interesting is they have
a ton of Americans on their team. Wow. Right?
Because it's a blended, it's a total blending
melting pot in NHL. Every team has Canadians
and Finnish and Americans in this. Every single
team has the best talent that's available. And
this is not a national thing at all. Now, I get
the, what they do, it was brilliant what they
did in the All -Star. They did the four teams.
Oh, yeah. Are you a hockey fan? Four nations.
I'm hockey curious. So they did during the All
-Star game. So let's, the traditional All -Star
program, that's like football, hockey, whatever
it is, they pull the players from everywhere.
And they just make these teams up and they go
play. This one was so cool because they were
bringing up, let's do Canada and let's do America.
It made it like an Olympic -style event. A four
-nation tournament. So that's our criticism of
playoffs, of all -star stuff. It's bullshit,
right? They don't play hard. Think about basketball.
It's 147 to 141. There's no defense. It's just
showmanship, and they're bouncing it off the
backboard and dunking it themselves. It's bullshit,
right? And I don't think hockey was necessarily
that way, but still, it wasn't competitive. Yeah.
So then they moved to this four -nation playoff,
and it was. It became tribal. Dude. It came off
the hook. And then all of a sudden it was like,
oh. And people were into it, and they were like.
Take off, eh? I'm coming after you, man. Dude.
Yeah, and they would play different venues. They'd
go to Canada. They'd go to New York. Yes. It
was the real deal. So it was actually they scored
big time in terms of, like, people watching and
people being. Pumped about it. Scored a lot of
points. Well, that's when the whole 51st State
thing happened as well. It did. When that whole
thing started going down, when he started that,
because I remember Canada was booing the U .S.
team when they played. They were. And this is
one of the moments where I kind of like, there
are a lot of moments where I'm looking at Trump
and I'm like, dude. Come on, man. I agree with
you on this one. Stop. Stop, dude. Do you seriously
need to piss off Canada? They were like our friends.
Why would you do that? But at the same time,
look, their cage needed to be rattled. He was...
There's some nefarious shit going on up there.
He was trolling Trudeau more than Canada. And
Canada just happened to be in the way. But did
he affect that... in a negative way for us? Possibly
in a negative way, yeah. I think so. Although
that guy, Pierre Polivo, didn't help himself.
Yeah. I'm going to kind of tie it back to bourbon.
All right, go. Because I remember seeing footage.
I don't know if RD1's in Canada yet, but I remember
seeing footage of them. All the liquor stores
pulling off all the bourbon off the shelves as
a protest. Did that impact you guys? Well, so
we're having conversations with Canada, with
Germany, with China, Japan. Those conversations
are still happening. No kidding. Yeah. But because
of tariffs. Because of tariffs, you know, sometimes
the conversations have kind of stopped, but we're
reengaging. Um, we're, we're hoping for the best
planning for the worst. And, uh, you know, I
mean, we have to continue to trade, you know,
it's going to come back, you know? So, so for
those people that are just like putting their
head in the sand, they're going to do what's
going to, what, what they're going to do. But,
um, we're still having those conversations. We'll
probably do a couple of white labels in Eastern
Europe. We're still looking at outside the U
.S. distribution. For sure. Yeah. It's a huge
market. Canada is not going to go away. Canada
is a partner. We're going to work with them.
We're going to have distribution up there. You
know, I mean. All of this is saber rattling.
It doesn't. What a great word. So let's just
think about this. Think about this. In Canada,
you got dudes like us. Right. Who sit around
and they're drinking bourbon and they're really
going to go. fuck america eh right no they're
not no they're not like like hey we're gonna
drink this uh canadian club i don't think so
exactly i mean no hey no no dude i used to bartend
and i remember this was like in the late 80s
and they would like hey can i have a cc and coke
and i'd be like I was going to say it. I almost
said it. Don't do it. Don't do it. I was going
to have a CZ and Coke, and I was just like, man,
I just remember the CNC, the Canadian Club label.
That is so crazy. Right. And nowadays, I wonder
what, if I were to have a bottle of that now,
it would be what you described as the old whiskeys
that would be more butterscotch and caramelly.
Dude, it's been around forever, right? I mean,
that's... It's a staple. There's a market for
it. I was going to say, everything has its place.
Right. Right? I mean, who are we to judge if
somebody, some old dude's hanging out and drinking
Canadian Club and 7 -Up? Hey, we respect how
people enjoy their bourbon, enjoy their whiskey,
enjoy their spirits. We do, right? Well, there's
a whiskey company, Found North. Have you heard
of them? It's kind of like the rare character,
except they look for the exceptional Canadian
whiskeys. There you go. Wow. And they can't find
them? Well, no. And I want to find... I joined
their mailing list because they have lotteries.
And they're old. You know, 17, 20 plus years
old stuff. High proof. I've seen some of the
reviews saying top notch stuff. I don't think
I've seen a high proof Canadian whiskey. That
would be great. Unobtainium. Yes. It's a hazmat.
Yeah. Dude. That's a thing. Yeah. Oh, we have
to get that. What is it like? What's the hazmat
set at? Is it 150? 140? 140 and above. But what
is theirs at? With the Canadian FAA? No, no,
no. I'm not talking about the system. The rules.
This is 110 -ish. That's 130 almost. Zoom out
a little bit, please. Found north, batch 11.
Aged 18 years. Yeah. And it's stout. It's 120.
91 % corn, though. Sweet. Interesting. Additives,
none. I wonder. You know, it's sad that they
have to say that. Hold on. Hold on. That's significant
that they have to say that. In Canada, I don't
think there's any rules for Canadian whiskey.
Because Crown has additives. Right. Yep. Well,
I would like to try it. What's the sticker price
on that, Mr. Producer? I have no idea how much
it costs. I've never seen one in the wild. Oh,
so these are the rare... This is like the rare
character of Canadian whiskey. That is so difficult.
You know, they even have the same rare character
kind of tab on the top to peel it off. Is it
80 pence? Like, what do they... I'm sorry, what
do they have up there? What do they have up there?
Loonies. Okay, so it's 40 loonies. By the way,
we have another rare character bottle. It's sitting
in a box at my house. Yes, it is. It's very expensive.
I can't believe we spent that much. We spent
almost 300 bucks on this stupid bottle. Really?
Yeah. What was it? I don't even remember what
the hell it was. It's a single malt, I think,
isn't it? Yeah. It better be really good. It
was a weeded whiskey. I remember that. I don't
remember. I put it in a bag, and I shoved it.
A couple cases of the San Pellegrino. I shoved
it in an open case so I don't look at it because
I don't want to have to drink it. Yeah, you buried
it in the backyard. Look, guys, we've got to
settle up on this whiskey thing. We do. So we
figured out that each of us, oh, I think about
$13 ,000 each. From Jeff's trip to Kentucky when
he picked up like 17, 18 bottles. So when he
comes back, you know, you look at it, you know.
60 to 100 -something bucks a bottle. And then
we have all the equipment that we bought for
the podcast. There's just a bunch. We're trying
to step it up. We're trying to step it up. We're
having a good time. We're waiting for an angel
investor. Not you, not you, but you talked about
an angel investor. Right, right. That's what
we're waiting for. You guys need a hookup. We
need a hookup. You guys need somebody that has
barrels of bourbon. that are like, we're going
to sample through each one of these and bring
special bourbon down to the podcast. I like what
you're saying. Right? A lot. Yes. I mean, that's
great. I mean, you know, we're not against paying
for stuff. We don't want shit for free. We would
like our podcast to be recognized as for what
it is. We're original. We're not full of shit.
No, we are. Oh, wait, wait, wait, wait. Yep,
there. Challenge play. He shoots his scars. Challenge
play. He one -timed that. There it is. There
it is. That was a great challenge. Thank you,
Barry. Thank you. Well placed there, sir. And
by the way, you win that challenge because he
is full of shit. Yeah, well, you know what? We
all are full of shit. We all are. We all are.
In these little areas. But the point is, is that,
in fact, we have had a podcast where we say something,
and then 10 minutes later, we do the research,
and we're like, Completely go back on what we
said. Wow, Sean's wrong again. But that's the
whole fun about it is that we want to talk about
it because if I'm wrong about it, there are millions
of people that are wrong about it because some
things make sense and then they don't. So the
best thing, Barry, we'll get into these deep,
deep debates. Right? I'll be throwing in stuff.
Sean's be throwing in stuff. Jeff's throwing
in stuff. Chuck's piping in. And then we find
out all of us are wrong. I do that. Because when
I edit, I'll sit right over there and I'll edit.
And as I'm listening to it, I'll start researching.
I'm like, nope, we were all wrong. It's literally
so bad. And then there's one dude listening in
his car. Screaming at us. His old Ford truck.
He's driving down some country road going. Y
'all a bunch of fucking idiots. Humbled. Yes.
100%. That podcast is crushable. Yes. But we
sound good. We think we're right, so we sound
it. We're confident. Just be confident. As long
as you're confident. Yeah, it doesn't matter.
So walk us through. I want to chat a little bit
about the world of whiskeys. You guys participate
in that, right? Yeah, so the world of whiskeys,
I love it. You know, I love having people come
in from all over the world. But the problem is
that, you know, when we look at consumerism,
people are kind of pulling back a little bit.
And the world of whiskeys is kind of expensive.
You know, for a brand, it's $2 ,500 minimum just
to get my brand in there. And the people that
are attending are kind of waning a little bit.
I want to go where the people are. And so for
me, I love the world of whiskeys. I want to support
it. But the problem is it's kind of expensive.
Well, I've got another problem. Bang for your
buck, right? I've got another problem. So we
went to the one where we met you guys, your team
out there. And the one that got scheduled this
year in Dallas. outside in august or july in
july the worst the worst in july in an outdoor
venue ouch and on a sunday on a sunday i gotta
go to work on monday i mean what are these fools
thinking so yeah so he sent an email did you
get a response no i didn't get a response no
no i didn't send just an email I sent texts,
email, social media, not one single reply. I
wonder why. Dude, look, I get it. I was a little
abrasive. But at the same time, it's facts. Imagine
being a 24 -year -old intern and you're monitoring
the social media. And here's this dude going.
dude no outside i was just like in the middle
of summer this is texas i mean what the hell
you got a bunch of fat fucking 50 year olds out
there saucing it up yeah it's like we're all
gonna die you're gonna need to have some emergency
Can I get an IV? On a roller so you just walk
with it? Look, and I got to tell you, the event
that we went to and we participated was great.
The actual place fucked up all the food where
they were bringing all this great food out, but
they had no utensils and people were like manhandling
the food and shit. Don't touch my food. Oh my
God. It was Neanderthal -ic. It was crazy. I
mean, but it was a great event. I enjoyed being
there and I'd love to do it again. And I wish
they... really would hold it at the same place
again. Just the fact that they did it in downtown
Dallas at the farmer's market. That's what it
is. It's a farmer's market. Yeah. I don't know
what they were thinking. It's a metal pole building
with open sides. It's basically an awning. I
wasn't sure if they were trying to downscale
to where it wasn't so much to host it. Maybe
it cost too much. Maybe they ran out of time.
And they didn't. I don't know. I don't know.
There are so many venues out there. There are
so many. There are so many opportunities. They
could have done anything. Read the room. They
messed up. Read the room. Read the state. Read
the time. And the fact that they didn't respond,
even like just a little bullshit, oh, sorry,
maybe we'll catch you next year at a different
venue. There was zero response. Right. Nothing.
Right. So, I mean, look, I get it. The venue
was expensive for you guys to even participate.
Right. But to me, it sounds like they don't even
care. Right. They're just like, let's just pack
this up in a box and ship it out and see what
sinks or swims. Well, but you're on the do not
reply list. Whatever. X'd out. Yeah, I think
if Jeff had seen it, it might have been different.
I wasn't that bad. I read to you guys what it
was. It wasn't too horrible. All I said were
the facts. Hey, man, is there any room to wiggle?
Can you enclose it? Is it climatized? Do they
have defibrillators? I mean, there was these...
Are there nurses on call? Hey, listen, I have
a 60 % chance of dying at this event, so help
me out here. This is like going to a foreigner
concert in downtown Dallas in the middle of August,
you know? Jesus, man. We did that, too. August
15th, what, two years ago, we went to go see
the foreigner cover band. Oh, my God. And it's
outdoors. It was so fucking hot. I had to get...
I got so hot. I had to get up and walk around.
I was like, I'm going to pass out. Wow. Do you
do concerts? Do you do old bands, like your nostalgic
bands? I mean, I'm an old guy, so I love older
music. Love it, but again, my bedtime is, I'm
past my bedtime now. Typically 9 o 'clock, I'm
in bed. Love music. I love going to concerts
and seeing older bands. Like Fats Domino or something
like that. Hold on. What does that look like
in Kentucky, in Lexington? Who comes to Lexington?
Now, I mean, it's kind of dominated by country
and western. Of course. Chris Stapleton. Nice.
You know, I mean, but I'm old school. Tedeschi,
Martin, and Wood. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Foreigner.
I mean, you know, Jethro Tull. That was the first
concert I saw back in the day. I like that guy.
The rock flautist. I like that guy. No, this
wasn't preschool. That's a taxi theme. By the
way, you on the last podcast put in a recorder.
A recorder recording. No. I was like, dude. That
did sound like the taxi theme. I busted out when
you. It was so bad. All right, all right. Move
on, move on. All right, sorry. Go back. So what's
the last concert you've been to? Yeah, man, you're
challenging me. Because you've been on the road
for it. Yeah, I have no. That's a lot, man. I
have no life. I mean, I have a great life. But
it's all bourbon. It's all meeting guys like
you all and drinking. I mean, here we're on a
podcast. We're drinking stag. We're drinking
a barrel pick of stag from Total Wine. He just
did that. Holy crap. Let's talk about it. I love
it. Yeah, yeah. Well, we pulled it up. Let's
do it. Let's talk about it. Let's talk about
this. What is the proof? It's 133 proof. Damn.
I've already sampled this twice. It's the bomb.
This is the shit. It really is. I'll tell you
what. Jumping from the RD1 to this, they're two
different animals. Yeah. Completely. And this
one's got a set of nuts. Yeah. It doesn't taste
like 133 proof. Dude, I get maple syrup. hardcore
on this nose. Very sweet. There's a lot of sweetness
to it. But a lot of ethanol. A lot of proof.
It's got to breathe a lot. You can feel the proof
on this one, I think. This one where you may
want to drop a drop or two of distilled water
in it to dumb it down a little bit. I wouldn't,
but some may. I don't like doing that. But if
people are offended by the ethanol, that is what
I would... Recommend. Right. Couple drops. Not
to be manly here, but I didn't even realize.
I've been drinking it. I've been drinking it.
I've been sipping it. And I did not realize it
was a hundred and what? 133. I didn't because
we are conditioned now. Everything's burned off.
Everything's burned off from the nostrils down
to the rectum. We're pros. All the way down,
man. It's burned off. There's a story there.
Father Jerry's really reached me out. Exit only.
Exit only, gentlemen. It's called butt chugging,
right? No, no, no, no. Is it butt luging? Exit
only. Let's not get crazy. Anyway, so Stag, it's
a Stag. Jesus. Uh -oh, we're spitting over here.
We're good. We're good? We just killed Bird.
That's funny, though. So the Stag Jr. 133 Proof
Kentucky Straight Bourbon Barrel boasts a complex
profile with the tasting notes including sweet
flavors. Very sweet. Very sweet. Chocolate. tons
of spice that's crazy how can it be sweet with
130 something proof come on unfiltered that's
crazy this is amazing yeah i'm a fan a big fan
where do we get this bottle by the way i mean
but well how long ago uh i think someone i think
this is one where wow hey And I was circling
Total Wine, and I ran in and got it. So let me
share with you some of our processes. So we go
to different liquor stores, and we try to keep
ourselves acquainted with folks. And so we're
on a text list. So when something comes in. I'm
not naming people, but when something comes in,
they're like, hey, you might want to be here
in 15 minutes. And so we sent out the bat. Yeah,
we have an emergency alert. And Jeff's like,
I'm circling right now. I've been here since
840. Still waiting. But it's funny because we
get these alerts sometimes, and then we just
show up, and it was there, and boom, we're in
there. That's insane. Like the Coy Hill. The
Jack Daniels Coil Hill. Love it. Oh, my God.
That was another one, yeah. I went in there,
and we got the bad alert. And, you know, Stan,
shout out to Stan. You know, Stan's the one that
hooked us up. So we went in there, and he's like,
he just handed me a box. And there were two of
the Jack Daniels in there. He said, don't open
it. Don't even look at it. Just take the box
to the front, have them check it out, and leave.
Thank you, Stan. That's what I said. I love the
alert, Houston, Houston. I love it. Do we have
any assets in the area over? Assets en route.
Assets en route. It is funny because that's exactly
what we are. So shout out to the Total Wine,
Kevin, and stands up at Sips. And Sips, from
what I understand, out in McKinney, Texas, they're
not, how should I say this? Business could be
better. We haven't visited him in a while. Yeah.
Well, you know what? It's not near our stomping
grounds. It isn't. And frankly, they're having
a hard time. Are you familiar with Sips out there?
No. So Sips is a mom and pop store. It's around
Virginia and what? Ridge? Yeah. Virginia and
Ridge. It's in McKinney. It's in McKinney about
northeast of here about 20 minutes. Okay. And
it's a small liquor store. And they sell wine
and liquor. And the guys there are great. They
really are great. It's a nice -sized store, too.
It is nice. It looks like a great location. It's
a great location. Yeah, sorry. But rent's expensive.
Yeah, it's a good place. Everything's expensive.
And they're doing everything they can to stay
afloat. And it's just one of those things, man.
They're just kind of... The cards are falling,
and they're throwing Hill Marys out. And Stan
shared last night that he doesn't know how much
longer they're going to be open. Wow. They don't
have all this. We're trying to get Wild Turkey
101, and we can't even get that. Oh, damn. Yeah,
and they do have great product, because we bought
some product from them. Whatever. Whatever, man.
I feel bad, but at the same time, it was a great
venue. Stan is a great person. He's a vault of
information when it comes to whiskeys, too. You
could ask that guy anything. Maybe they should
do those dark erotic tours that Gary was talking
about. You say erotic? I like erotic. I think
we've got a new dimension here. Maybe I misunderstood.
No, no, no. You know what? I'm running with it.
A little goth erotic. Maybe the thespians will
be nude as they do their act. They have a bourbon
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We have Barry Gruniger. Are we wrapping up right
now? No, no, no. I just want to say it's in the
middle. It's in the middle. Okay. And I just
want to say, you know, Barry's here talking with
us if you guys don't remember. Dude, and this
has been a lot of fun. I'm so glad you're on
the podcast. I mean, how much bourbon have we
had that is, like, top of the line? My God. I
need to come back tomorrow. We're pretty spoiled.
We really do. We pride ourselves. Like what Paul
was mentioning on the first half of the podcast,
we'd buy three bottles each. So we got our collection
by buying a bottle each. And a bottle would be
$30, $50. Every week. Every week. And it was
like, boom, boom. And then we started building
it up. And we got to a point where we started
the more expensive stuff. I was like, well, you
know what? I can't afford to buy that every week.
So we started. like dividing the cost by three
right so now we're buying a bottle every week
and we don't care what the price is it could
be 150 bucks right because 150 bucks is way less
than what we were paying yeah it gets a little
ridiculous and it was very much an evolution
yeah very much you need a backup you know i mean
one bottle you open it it's gone i mean you gotta
have a backup Yeah, but it's tough. We don't
have deep pockets. And, you know, when we get
sponsors or folks like you that come out. Angel
investor. We're waiting for angel investors.
That's the key word. It's baby steps. And, frankly,
we're kind of stupid when it comes to setting
ourselves up for success with these types. I
mean, we want to say that we've got the talent.
We've got the chemistry. We've got the bodies.
We've got the bodies in the face. Right. It takes
more than that. So you need a Mike Tederton that
says you're not asking for enough money. That's
what you guys need. That's what we need. And
then, boom, we're Joe Rogan -esque. Rogan -esque.
Look, we're just wanting to have fun with this.
We are. If we can get some compensation, if we
can get some sort of kickback or something. You
don't do this for five years. Without getting
paid, without loving what you do. Right. And
we do. Right. And this is it. We're hobbying
this shit to death. Yeah. And we do have. Gotta
love it. We do have 1 ,000 to 2 ,000 folks who
listen every month. Yeah. Yeah. That's awesome.
And then we're international now. Yeah, we do.
We got people in Bulgaria. Yeah. Ireland. Thailand.
Finland. I don't know. Uzbekistan. Mexico. Kazakhstan.
We have guys in Canada. I've got a couple guys
in a video game. Oh, Canada. Absolutely. We love
Canada. And we got banned in Romania. And for
some reason... We got banned in Romania? See,
hey, we're doing something right when we get
banned in fucking Romania. Romania said you're
out. Did not pass the smell test. We're like,
you know what? Romania sucks. Fuck, we got banned.
It actually had to do with when we post stuff
on YouTube because we upload our stuff. And when
it gets sent over to YouTube, YouTube has this
different network of they groom all your stuff.
They listen to what you say by these bots. And
if you say something like. oh, you know, the
COVID was a farce or whatever that is. They're
like, oh, you guys broke the rules. Well, we
actually, for Romania, the specific thing was
we were doing the top 10 songs. Yeah, Chuck played
something too long. We were doing the one -hit
wonders of the 80s or something similar to that.
No, it was Olivia Newton -John. Oh, my God. I
love her. We were playing songs. So does Chuck,
and he played it for like an hour. You want me
to play it again? No, we were playing songs,
and if you play a song for a certain time frame,
they'll flag it, and then you have to have the
authority to play that song during your thing.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Infringement type thing. And
so Romania complained. Someone there complained.
Not even Australia. You would think Australia
would complain. Romania, you suck. Yeah? Great.
You know what? We just got unblocked. You just
fucked it up for us. Thanks a lot, Barry. We
just got unblocked. Three and a half years of
work. Oh, you're blocked again. That's okay.
We'll meet with them again. Whatever. It's so
crazy. Some of these rules that you got to play
with, it's sort of like RD1 spirits when you're
trying to follow these rules that the government
wants you to do and crossing your I's and dotting
your T's. I know I said that backwards on purpose.
My point is that even like the color scheme,
who was here? It was Mike. Mike's Big Sticks.
Big Stick. Big Stick Whiskey was out here a couple
weeks ago, and he was saying how difficult it
is to get some of this literature past. All the
hoops you have to jump through. The bottles.
Oh, you can't do that. It looks a certain way.
The font has to be a certain size. I'm like,
why the fuck does it matter? Why does it matter?
Who are you to tell me what I can't put on here?
How does that offend anybody? Oh, it's got to
fit a criteria. Why? So did you have to deal
with all that? The government, I mean, everything
that we do, it has to pass through TTB. We have
to submit, and if there's no safety on a wood
finish, then we have to show them that it's safe
for consumption. I mean, I get it. You want to
protect the consumers. How did you get black
walnut through that? We did not. Black walnut,
I'm still chewing on it. Somehow you convinced
them that it was safe. No red dye number 40.
No, no, no. No maraschino cherries. I'm going
to ask a really dumb question, but there's so
much history involved. There's no dumb questions.
There's only dumb people. I love that. I love
that. And there are three of them right here.
Four. Four. Five. Five. Another dumb person.
That's great. All right. So, so much history.
Any ghost stories in the bourbon industry? Ghost.
Yeah. Like spirits? Yeah. Well, you're talking
about possession. No, really. Do they ever talk
about haunted this or haunted that? Don't ghost
stories at all. Anywhere in the bourbon industry.
Not off the top of my head. No. Because we went
to Irish bars. Remember that? They came to us.
The Celt was with us. There were Irish bars that
had haunted stories, right? Yeah, so there are
some. Okay, so we had Stan and the other guy
on from the Celt, downtown McKinney. Nick. We
had Stan and Nick on. Nick is the manager, head
bartender, and Stan's the owner of the Celt downtown.
And they were talking about how they had some
spiritual sixth sense kind of stuff going on.
There were glasses. Things were happening. So
the story is that there was a murder there, or
a death there. I think it was a murder. Oh, no,
it was a suicide. That place was a brothel. And
it was a brothel at one point. It was a brothel
in the 1800s. Yeah. So there's a lot of history
going on there. And what the story was is that
glasses were moving. No, they were flying off
the shelf. Yeah. Yeah, there's actually, I think
he had some footage. Video. And they made Ghost
Hunters, the TV show, I think, one of those Ghost
Hunters shows. And there's footage of the shit
flying off like the top shelf where all the booze
is, the glasses flying off the shelf. So nothing
that you've ever heard of in the bourbon industry.
You're connected. Yeah. Really? Yeah. So you're
referring to like old school bars and some crazy
stories like that. Everything. Well, that's got
to be the Celts. I mean, you see the, what is
that? What did you say? The ghost, not ghostbusters.
Ghost hunters. The ghost hunters. I mean, I haven't
seen or heard any bars. I'm really surprised.
I would think that there's some sort of stories
here and there. So much histories of the hundreds
of years of history. No, I mean, you know, off
the top of my head, there's there's no there's
nothing possessed. You know, there's no ghost.
No, no, there's just alcohol. Just alcohol. Yeah,
there's just distilled spirits. Yeah. There you
go. There you go. Yeah, that hit the dead end.
So it did. Hey, you know, but hey. I was fishing.
Yeah, but it is an interesting story from the
Celt downtown McKinney of that. Yeah. I think
that there's some weird... You would love that
shit. Look, first of all, I don't want to say
I've had experiences because that's not true,
but I've woken up feeling influenced by some...
Weird shit going on around. Like a woman hovering
over you with a knife? Did you go to the bathroom?
Only Zool. That would be your wife, by the way.
Did you go to the bathroom and rip your face
off? No, it's not like that. You start picking
at your face. I had some crazy dreams, and I
don't know what the hell it is. Maybe because
I couldn't breathe. Maybe because I had a CPAP
machine. Frankly, I haven't had any of those
dreams since I've had my CPAP machine. Those
are probably near -death experiences. That's
what I'm thinking. That's what I'm thinking.
Because my wife came downstairs one time. My
wife and I, we haven't slept together for like
a decade. Because I snored so bad. It was pathetic.
I got a CPAP machine a year and a half, two years
ago, whatever. And I've been sleeping on my bed
now and everything's great. But it's just that
there was a time where I remember waking up and
I would be like, help me. And I couldn't say
it. My wife came downstairs and was like, you
kept saying help you. And I'm like, what the
fuck are you talking about? Because I remember
it was just a weird dream, but all that shit
went away, and it has to do - Were there pygmies
all over you? No, that was your - And they were
taking strings and tying you down? What is the
big giant laying on the ground? It was the Gulliver's
Trouble. It was Shonovan's Trouble. Let me provide
some context here to what Paul's referring to.
So we went out to the Rebel. There's a bar up
the street, right, where we go and we go and
listen to 80s tribute bands. It was my 50th birthday.
It was at his house. It had nothing to do with
Revel. No, we went out. We ended up at the Revel.
We went to the Revel. We had a good time. We
were on our way home, and then you get disgruntled.
Yes, I did. For whatever, and he decides he's
going to walk home in a drunken stupor. Because
I know I'm geographically, you know, I have an
inside compass. So he lives west. Yeah. He went
north. No, well, sort of. He shot an azimuth.
He went 90 degrees to where he should be going.
Yes. Essentially. I really did. And, you know,
we've given him such a hard time. He ended up
in a field, like, rolling around in the mud.
I went through, like, where animals were. And
I was falling and climbing over part of the wire.
He had, like, mud all over his jeans. It was
a shit show. And I met my shaman. Yeah, we said
he got lost out there and met his shaman. And
that's the joke, that I was with the pygmies
of Frisco, you know, with the shaman. And yeah,
that was the story. Did you guys hear, was there
like a jailbreak? What city was that in? New
Orleans. Was it New Orleans? That's right. He
went to Bourbon Street. You know, here this guy
breaks out of jail. He goes to Bourbon Street.
I mean, I mean, one of the guys that was caught
was still in his orange jumpsuit. Oh, gosh. Really?
Are you serious? Can you imagine? I mean, seriously,
you're going to go to where all the tourists
are, all the police officers are, and you're
going to get arrested. Holy shit. So 10 of them
escaped. And at this point right now. Only four
have been recaptured. Six are still out there,
and they're dangerous. Yeah. These aren't like
misdemeanor people. Well, they only murdered
one person. These are attempted murderers, like
bad people. So that's not good. Well, they cut
a hole in the wall, right? It was an inside job,
right? Well, yeah, it was. So there was a maintenance
guy there. And he was arrested. He was arrested,
but his part was he turned off the plumbing for
a certain section. And what that allowed them
to do was to remove a toilet because the toilet
had the back tank that was against the wall.
When they removed the toilet, they basically...
cut the drywall out, and they went right through
the wall. Because there's a, you know, between
a wall is 16 inch on center, you have 14 and
a half inches to crawl through. I wondered that.
They said he shut off the water, the inside guy.
I was like, why would that make any difference?
That's why. That's why. Because they cut through
pipes, and if the water was on, then that would
be obvious. It would have spewed everywhere,
and they made out. And there's no cameras on
the inside, which kind of brings up some other
things that they need to take care of. But there
were cameras on the outside where the ramp was,
where they exited. You see them all run? Yeah,
it was just crazy. Well, if you watch the video,
the outside video, they're scrambling like a...
You know, that brings up another question, though.
So, Epstein. Oh, wow. Okay. Well, we're talking
about in prison and cameras in prison. Well,
that is kind of curious because Kash Patel and
Dan Bongino came out. Exactly. And said what,
Chuck? Well, they basically said there's no evidence
that he didn't kill himself. That's right. They
basically, because there was huge conspiracy
theories about him not killing himself, that
he was murdered because they turned the cameras
off. So you're saying there's no evidence that
he killed himself. That he didn't. They looked.
That's like a devil. I'm just trying to say there's
no evidence that there was foul play other than
he killed himself. Bongino and Cash said clearly
he killed himself. Okay. Unequivocally. unequivocally
killed himself. No one else killed him. Well,
you know what? There you go. So how do we respond
to that? Because that was a major thing we talked
about for a long time. Well, because you have
all this weird shit going on in the Clinton administration.
I say the Clinton administration, meaning Hillary,
you know? Well, it was the whole situation, right?
So the camera got moved. Yes. The prison guards.
The guy's asleep. Yeah, the prison guards weren't
watching. He was in the kitchen area making his
turkey pot pie. Very suspicious. Well, whatever.
It's over. Done with. But you know what? We've
got better things to move on to. So we've got
summertime stuff. Vacation's coming up. We've
got vacations coming up. So what is the schedule
for you guys? Somebody has a summer off. Oh,
yeah. Good for you. Yeah, but what do we got
going on for the next couple weeks? I've got
class. I do have class I need at the end of next
week. Were you in town? Are we leaving? I'll
be leaving in June, so I'll be gone for a couple
weeks in June. All right. Like the second week,
third week? I think around the seventh or eighth
is when we plan on leaving. Okay. Very good.
You'll be gone a week or two? I think two weeks.
Good for you, man. Nice. And I'm going to Nicholasville.
Are you going? Is that the same time? That's
what we just talked about. Yes. Is that the same
time? 18th through the 22nd. Holy crap. So we'll
be no podcast for three weeks? Dang. No, no,
no. Mine's a Thursday through Sunday. Oh, okay,
okay. And Mr. Barry's going to hook me up with
the greatest dark, dark tour ever. I'm going
to hook you up. It's going to be so dark. Dr.
Woods. So dark. Dr. Woods in the house. Are you
really going to hook me up? You know it. Dude,
I'm so excited. Make sure you have lots of wood
jokes. Wow. Knock, knock. Can I be a third wheel?
Is this going to be like a romantic getaway?
It's totally romantic. Can I be a third wheel?
No. I'll have my own room. We're going to be
so romantic. It's an erotic, dark tour. All nude.
Wow. Yeah. Anyway. Jeez Louise. That's the music.
All right. So this is the second half. We're
supposed to wrap this up. Barry, you didn't talk
about your summer plans. Do you have summer plans?
Travel. Travel. And more travel. Sell cases.
Meet people. Drink bourbon. So when you travel,
do you travel four days out of the week? I've
got two weeks straight sometimes. Sometimes it's
four days out of a week. So you don't go back
home for the weekend? Sometimes I don't. How
long have you been doing this? A couple of years
now. The travel. That's not sustainable. You
know that, right? I know. I know. My wife is
like, holy shit. For real? When are you coming
home? For real. Right. So is there a plan there?
Yeah. Yeah. We'll see. You got to have a Barry
Jr. Yeah. Little Barry's coming out. All right.
We're not that drunk yet. So to wrap this up,
we are so thrilled that you came on the podcast.
Thank you. Thank you, guys. Your story is amazing.
Love it. Your company is amazing. Your product
is amazing. We love it. Love it. Come see us
in Kentucky. I am planning on it. Love it. Any
last comments? No, I think we're good. We're
good. Well, May 20th, second half of the podcast.
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