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Did we ever finish that bottle? This one. Oh,

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it should be empty. Is it? Yeah. It's kind of

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hard to tell because you can't see in it. It's

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a fancy bottle, though. Yeah. That is the spring

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meal. The spring meal. Bourbon. Bourbon whiskey.

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Twice barrel. New charred American oak. So it's

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one of these white bottles. Yeah, you can see

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it. Like a little porcelain. That's the thing.

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It's nice. It's beefy. Did we infinity bottle

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it? I don't know. Or did we just wipe it out?

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Well, I think I infinity bottled it, and I've

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got a list back here that I need to ultimately

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add to. I have probably six, seven bottles I

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haven't even listed. Oh, boy. In our thing, yeah,

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but we'll get to it. We're slowly but surely.

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Here, Pat, put that over at the demo. I'm going

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to throw it away. Maybe I'll take it home. I've

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got a little backpack I'll probably put in there.

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Okay. All right, first half of the Dudes Like

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Us podcast. Check us out on Facebook and Instagram,

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dudeslikeus -podcast, dudeslikeus -woodcraft.

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It's April 29th, 2025. At the helm, Mr. Chuckster.

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Thank you, sir, Mr. Producer, for staying on

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top of shit all the time. I'm excited. Damn,

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you are. You are. Pumped up, man. Did you take

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something? Did you take a shillajit? I took a

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big shit, is what I took. I got out of all the

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negative things going on. You ready to roll?

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Well, you know, we spent a long time today preparing

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for the topics we're talking about so that we

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could be a little bit articulated with some of

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the bullshit that we're going to spew, which

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we're going to spew anyways. Yes, of course.

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It's nonsense, but we like it. It's fun. It's

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Dudes Like Us. I'm Sean. I am Paul. And I'm Jeff.

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Paul. Oh, man. So we're sucking down this whiskey,

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which I'm not going to tell you right away what

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it is, but it's... Yeah. Kind of mid for me so

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far, but I'm going to let it breathe a little

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bit. Maybe if we just like have two or three

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of them, it'll get better. Finish the bottle.

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Well, yeah. I don't know if we want to do that.

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I don't know either. Anyway. I'm actually enjoying

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that drink. We went out Friday night and, you

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know, regular thing. Except, I know you said

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you didn't feel very good, but, you know, I didn't

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get blown up. You know, I had drinks. I was toasty

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because after we had left, there was a little

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drama. A little bit of drama on my side, not

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your side. So I had to go back and pick up other

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people that were there. Right. And, you know,

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it just – so I was sober enough to do that comfortably,

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you know. Yeah, I woke up. I think it was just

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a mixture of all the shit that I had. I think

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I had three beers and a – That horse neck. The

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horse neck. Oh, yeah, the horse neck. We want

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to sample that. We did sample that for the gentlemen

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that are supposedly coming on the podcast. Yeah,

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so we'll talk about that. So I bought a four

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-pack for us. We had that. Then I had some beers,

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and I had some bourbon, and I think all that

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just gave me a headache the next day. Yeah. You

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had to stick with one. Yeah, whatever. I tell

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you what, it was fun. I do enjoy going out there

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when it's not 200 degrees. We're specifically

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talking about the rail yard in Frisco, Texas.

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They've got some live entertainment out there.

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This past weekend, they had The Neighbors. The

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Neighbors, yes. The Neighbors. Were they pretty

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good? You guys saw the song. Oh, yeah. The set

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list. They were fun. Yeah, they were fun. Passed

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out tambourines. Oh, yeah, man. We didn't know

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that they did that. And there was some lady going

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to town on this tambourine across the way. And

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we're just like, wow, she's just wearing a bikini.

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No, we were like, oh, my gosh, she brought her

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own fucking tambourine. What in the fuck is going

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on? Oh, so they're groupies. No, no, no. They

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just laid about on the table. And then we noticed,

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oh, there's another one. Oh, I see. They were

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encouraging people to participate in the performance.

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And, of course, Chuck had a take quiz, and he

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was like, oh, look, guys, it has a neon light

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LED. She offered. He probably grabbed the triangle.

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Look at him trying to sidestep. She offered.

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The odd thing is they had some guy with a French

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horn who played maybe eight notes on one song

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and then left. Yeah. Special guest. They needed

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him for one song. They played the background

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music for the, it was the Beatles, but it sounded

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at first, he was like, he's actually playing

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Star Wars. I was like, that's what that was.

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So he packed it up and walked off. Was he pissed

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off? No, it was comical. That's what he was there

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for. He wanted to do it. He showed up. He was

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like, hey, guys, I'm here to do it. He was tall,

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a little lanky. And the other guys were like,

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do you know this guy? He looked like he just

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stepped out of some lederhosen. You know, he

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had those. Yes. God. When we saw him bring in

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his case, I was like, well, he's carrying like

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a big instrument case. or something, and then

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next thing you know, they're in... They're big.

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French horn cases are big. I don't know. It may

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have been a flugelhorn or what, but it may have

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been a French horn. I don't know. It looked like

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a French horn. It wasn't a tuba or anything like

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that. It wasn't that big, but maybe flugelhorny.

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And you're like... Well, you know what? It was

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fun. Overall, it was fun. The weather was great.

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You know, we had a couple beers. I felt kind

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of bloated because of the beer, and so I was

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like, you know, normally I don't like to, like,

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dive right into the bourbon. Could have been

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the ice cream. Yeah. Oh, well, yeah. What? You

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guys had ice cream? No, Sean had ice cream. Oh,

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food truck. Yeah. Hey, man, look, once in a while,

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I like to have ice cream. It's not very often.

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It just so happens, like, in the last three weeks,

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I've had it twice. Yeah. You know, I think I

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went out with you and went to Andy's. Yes, you

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did. Andy's is, I was going to say, That's one

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thing I will never turn down. I've never had

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Andes. If Shelly goes, let's go get Andes, I'm

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like, I'm in. It's custard, so it's not regular

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ice cream. It's not the fake stuff. It was like

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Double Dip when it was here in Frisco. Used to

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go to Double Dip quite a bit. That was fun. Right

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off of Main Street, downtown Frisco. Why would

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that close? Well, they jacked the rent up on

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him. So he moved. They forced him out. Yeah,

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so he was going to move to another location,

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but I think that fell through, and I think he

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just ended up closing. Yeah. Yeah, they jacked

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around on it because they wanted all those people

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that have gone so they could build what they

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have there now. Right. You know? And back then

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it was like 90 ,000 people and now it's like

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280 ,000 people. So I guarantee his business

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would have gone apeshit crazy. Oh, you know it.

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Yeah. Well, you know, and it would have because

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it was already busy. I know. You know, I would

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have, look, I would have figured out how to make

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shit work in the winter. I mean, ice cream doesn't

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sell too great in the winter, but you know what

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does? Fucking hot desserts. Brownies, apple pies,

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cookies. Brownies. Hot chocolates. Yeah. You

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know, ciders. Homemade little pies. All kinds

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of stuff. It could have been perfect. Although

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I remember it was wintertime, and I think Julie

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was out of town. And it was me and the boys,

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and it was February. It was about, you know,

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I think it was four degrees out. Because the

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reason I know that is I was like, I was looking

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for something to do with the boys. It was after

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dinner. I was like, all right. we had never been

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i was like let's go to bahama bucks so we pile

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in the car it's four degrees out do we go down

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there and get bahama bucks when it's four degrees

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out shaved ice basically yes right because i

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remember this specifically because fancy fancy

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shaved ice yeah i don't know if they're still

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around actually um and the reason i know this

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is their little punch card that if you come in

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For every degree under 20 or something like that,

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you got like two stamps. So I got like five stamps.

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I was like, wow, why did I get so many stamps?

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Those kids are trying to get you to come out

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when it's cold. That's actually smart. Yeah,

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so it was four degrees, so I got a shit ton of

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stamps. Free stuff for later on, basically. And

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then they closed shortly thereafter. Yeah, no

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kidding. Well, you remember the snow cone lady.

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I think she's still around. Is she still around?

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She moved. She's down there by the railroad track.

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Yeah, she moved. But I didn't think she was still

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in business, but I hope she is. No, I don't know.

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Because I love it. Is that really the same lady?

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It was. Great story. It was. I don't know if

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she's still there, though. I'll tell you, I had

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a similar experience with the snow cone lady,

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but this one was the bratwurst lady. And the

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bratwurst lady, this is when we lived in Germany.

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We lived in Mannheim, Germany. The late 70s for

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this particular one. And on Friday nights, the

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bratwurst lady would come into town. Because

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in Germany, they have a little bit of a different

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setup. They have fresh fruits that will roll

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through the neighborhoods on these flat trucks.

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And they pull up and they have their own proprietary

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music. Whatever it is. It could be anything.

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Like the ice cream truck. It could be a little

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polka. So she shows up every Friday night, and

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we were like, that was our thing. We get bratwurst.

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We get chicken. It was great. They also had the

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ice cream truck, but their ice creams were different.

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Real ice creams, they put them in these little

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presses, and they squeeze it, and they come out

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like spaghetti, and then they put some raspberry

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sauce on top of it. So interesting how different

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countries and different cultures have. Then you

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have the. Lots of sherbert. Then you have the

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Italian stuff. What's that called? Gelato. Gelato.

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Yeah. Then you have that stuff. Yeah. I don't

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think I've. I've never had that. I don't care

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for it. It's in. There was a shop in Legacy East.

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And I was kind of like. I was expecting like

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an ice cream shop. And I didn't really care for

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the texture or something. I don't know what it

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was. Was it sweet? Yeah. No it was. But I mean.

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I don't know. It was just. I don't know. I just

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remembered not. Was it creamy? I can't answer

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that. On advice of counsel. No, no, no. Go on.

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On advice of counsel. Was it creamy? Wow. Did

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it melt in your mouth? Yes. I don't like where

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this is going. Anyway, did you guys, when the

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ice cream truck came around as kids, did you

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race out there and your parents gave you money?

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It was like 50 cents. I know, right? Nowadays,

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it's just like eight bucks. We had a Mr. Softee.

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Yeah, there you go. So you go up, and it was

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a soft serve, right? Oh, yeah. Hey, my name is

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Joey. Come on over here. He'd come out, and he'd

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just, like, hang over the window. So, yeah, we'd

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go up there, and we'd get the— So wrong. I don't

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know if this is regional or if everyone calls

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him this, but there's sprinkles on top. We'd

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call them jimmies. Jimmies. Jimmies. Yeah, not

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jizzies. Not jizzies. Okay. He was limp. He was

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soft. Did you drink before we got here? We've

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got to stop. Let's reset. This is the first podcast.

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Let's just all just behave, okay? So, no, I'd

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go and get the soft serve and get the chocolate

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jimmies on it. Yeah, I don't think I did it all

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that often, but, man, when you heard the music.

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Oh, yeah. Oh, it was crazy. Oh, he was tantalizing.

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You know, Eddie Murphy had his little stand -up

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show, Delirious, and it was funny. Was it raw?

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Oh, it was raw. Delirious was second. Thank you.

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It was one where he had the little red leather

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outfit out there, and he's talking about how

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the ice cream man come to town, and all the kids

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get super, lose their fucking mind. Oh, yeah.

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And it was like, you know, the mom would say.

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Start throwing change at them, you know. Get

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your brother a toasted almond pop and get me

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the do -do -do -do -do and bring me the change.

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That's so funny. Well, I know on our route we

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pick up at a middle school and I'm noticing ice

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cream trucks at middle schools as the kids are

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getting out of school. Oh, yeah, and they're

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not stupid. Yeah, and there's a line of kids.

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Are there? Oh, yeah. So there was one just the

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earlier, I don't know, it was earlier this week,

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a couple days ago, there was one. driving down

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our street, and I can't recall them. I mean,

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you know, I'm sure they do it regularly, but

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I don't recall them driving down our street all

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the time. Oh, so look at this. We have a debate

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on the racist connotations of how Jeff grew up.

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Some people have raised concerns about the use

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of the word Jimmy's because their name's associated

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with the term Jim Crow. Shut up. Whatever. Discriminatory

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laws in the South. Well, I can tell you what.

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As a 10 -year -old asking for Jimmy's, I had

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no idea what Jim Crow was. No. You weren't racial?

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No. What about Jim Eagle? Do you know anything

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about that one? No. No. It's just, you know,

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you'd go up there and the kid in front of you

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would say, I want Jimmy's on it, so you call

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it Jimmy's. Yeah, I tell you. It wasn't, hey,

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you've got to be racist. Extra Jimmy's. People

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will read into whatever they want. It's just

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like, come on. We're trying to spoil everything.

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It's crazy. No. Jimmy's forever. Jimmy's. Here's

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a Jimmy joke about your mama that you might not

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like. That was a little snoop there. Well, we

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called Jimmy's the chocolate ones, and then you

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had the red ones, and then the multicolored ones,

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right? So it was all... The rainbow -colored

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ones? Yeah, the rainbow. I have the rainbow Jimmy's.

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Yeah, he got a lot of rainbow -colored ones.

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That was your thing? Yeah. All the other boys

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were like, why do you like that? Well, the Sherbert,

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the spaghetti dessert from the German... Ice

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cream truck was fantastic. Was it sherberty?

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Was it like sherbert or ice cream? It was sherbert.

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It was Italian sherbert. I don't know if that's

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a thing. I wonder. Italian sherbert in Germany?

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Yes. What is the difference in the recipe? I

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don't know if we want to get into crazy detail.

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Sherbert? Yeah. What is, I mean, custard versus

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ice cream versus sherbert versus shaved ice,

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like the - Custard. Gelato or whatever. Gelato.

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Gelato. Gelato. What is the primary difference

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between all these things? What makes them different?

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Well, I think that's the level of dairy. Dairy

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and fat, yeah. I think custard is the highest

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fat content. That's why it's so thick. Which

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one is? Custard. Custard is? Yeah. That's why

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it's so thick, and they call it, what, concrete?

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Oh, it's so good, though. Yeah. I get the triple

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chocolate concrete every time at Andy's. It's

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amazing. Yeah, so Sherbert, small amount of dairy,

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typically 1 % to 2 % milk fat. Sorbet has no

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dairy, but it's made with fruit and sugar and

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water, basically, right? Is sorbet the same thing

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as sherbet? Yeah, so it's icy and less creamy,

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right? So I'm not on board with that. No, sorbet

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is kind of like almost not shaved ice because

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it's a lot finer, right? It's basically shaved

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ice with sugar and water and fruit. Right. So

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I guess I'm a fan of more creamy. Yeah, so you'd

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like the ice creams. Yeah, and custards. The

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custards, yeah. Custards and ice cream. And gelato

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has less fat than ice cream. Right. But some.

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It's probably sorbet, sherber. Why isn't it sherbet?

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If it's sorbet, why isn't it sherbet? I don't

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know. Come on. When you bring up the SNL skit.

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And then let's change the name to this. be naming

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this animal a different than a dead than in a

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lot. You're talking about George Washington.

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Yeah, the George Washington SNL. I'm going to

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start ordering it. Sure. Bay. You should. Yes.

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My wife nuts. Yes, it would. Not that I ever

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order Sherbert ever. Next time, if I remember,

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I'm going to call it sure. Bay. You know, when

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I worked at the Four Seasons Resort, I remember

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and I've only seen it happen once. Somebody ordered

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some pretty complicated food. And for some reason,

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it came out delayed. And this big shot corporate

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chef came out and he was apologized and he brought

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him a complimentary raspberry sorbet. And it

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was like... It's an aperitif. Yeah. He was like,

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you give them that because it doesn't fill them

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up. And the sorbet doesn't have the dairy in

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it. Is that correct? What did you say is an appetit?

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It's an appetizer. Aperitif. Aperitif. That's

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a pre -dinner. To clean your palate. Correct.

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Yes. Because they have aperitif drinks as well.

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I have been to fancy restaurants where they bring

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that stuff out early. Yeah. And it's like, what?

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And you have aperitif drinks as well. Interesting.

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Is bourbon one of those? I don't believe it is.

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Like a port, perhaps? That's usually after dinner.

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What do they call it when they're after dinner?

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Like good old -fashioned ice cream with dairy

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to fill you up. No, like a port drink is typically

00:16:38.759 --> 00:16:41.970
after dinner, I believe. I don't know. What was

00:16:41.970 --> 00:16:44.049
the pre -dinner drink? Well, that's an aperitif,

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right? So aperitif just means before dinner.

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Well, I think there's certain types of drinks

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that are aperitifs. That are meant to prepare

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the palate. Correct. Interesting. Digestives.

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See, I just think all that stuff's kind of snobby,

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but I get it. Yeah, see wine, late harvest wines

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like Port and Madeira. Yeah, but it's also brandy,

00:17:06.150 --> 00:17:09.589
cognac, whiskey, tequilas, white Russians. These

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are all examples of pre -dinner drinks. Interesting.

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Digestives. Chartreuse. Do you ever have Chartreuse?

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Ooh. I don't know. I did that in my pants once.

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It's green. Isn't that a green drink? Chartreuse?

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I don't know. I don't know. I've seen it. I've

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never heard of it. Yeah, I've seen it. I've never

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had it. Green. It is. Look at you. How would

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you even know that? Why would you know what a

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Chartreuse is? Well, it's the color. Chartreuse

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is a green, right? Yeah, kind of a glowing green.

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Yes. I don't know what it tastes like, but I've

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never had it. So that is an after dinner? Yes,

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that's an after dinner drink. Chartreuse. It

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looks like melon, but I don't know if that's

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what it tastes like. Dry gin? Gross. Dry gin,

00:17:56.430 --> 00:17:58.890
green chartreuse, and fresh lime juice. Yeah,

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not a fan of gin. That's a green ghost. I had

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a good one out, believe it or not, when we were

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in Hawaii. We went to Ocean Distillery. They

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make the Ocean Vodka, the one that's in the blue.

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And they make a gin. It actually wasn't bad.

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It wasn't over -junipered, put it that way. Sometimes

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you get just way too much juniper in there. You're

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just like, ah, that tastes like I'm eating a

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fucking Christmas tree. Yes. So the one time

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I had a gin and tonic, and I had a full one,

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and I showed up at this party, and somebody handed

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me a gin and tonic, and I was like, okay, I'll

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try that. And I had just eaten the number two

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Whataburger. And my stomach was so happy, right?

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And I was like, oh, okay, I'll try this. And

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I was like, oh, this is not that great. But,

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you know, whatever. I'm not going to turn it

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down, right? So I drank the whole thing pretty

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quickly because I wanted to get to my Captain

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Morgan and Coke. And I hurled the whole Whataburger.

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Really? Right then? Right then. It, like, immediately

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came up. I was like, oh, okay, what's happening

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right now? And I lost my whole Whataburger. Right.

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I was very upset. Speak it to, like, etiquette

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when you go over to someone's house, when someone

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hands you a drink. Oh, there's no etiquette.

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This was, like, we were 819, and it was, like...

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So someone gave you some throw -up stuff? Gin

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and tonic. Ipecac? Yeah. No, but, I mean, there

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was no etiquette. It was somebody's party because

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their parents were not in town. All right, you

00:19:18.420 --> 00:19:20.539
guys, I got eight crates of Ipecac from Mort,

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all on my tab. Now, whoever goes the longest

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without puking gets the last piece of pie in

00:19:25.019 --> 00:19:27.539
the fridge. Oh. Do you ever go somewhere and

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have bad etiquette where you're just like, I

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want your best bourbon, but I'm going to put

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it in, like, Sprite? Oh, boy. Oh, yeah. Paul's

00:19:34.759 --> 00:19:37.039
got plenty of stories of that. So, you know what?

00:19:37.079 --> 00:19:40.960
That happened not too long ago. So, because I've

00:19:40.960 --> 00:19:42.259
been wanting to share this story. I wanted to

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ask you guys, so what is the etiquette? So, when

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you've been invited to somebody's house, okay,

00:19:47.839 --> 00:19:51.039
and you're a bourbon drinker, and they know you're

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a bourbon drinker. OK, and I walk up to their

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bar and I'm looking at what they've got and they've

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got like four unopened bottles sitting on the,

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you know, on the shelf. And, you know, none of

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them were amazing, but they were I recognized

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them. Right. I was like, oh, that's pretty good.

00:20:03.970 --> 00:20:05.730
And then, you know, I'm looking around. I'm like,

00:20:05.750 --> 00:20:07.210
and he's like, oh, yeah, you want to drink? And

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I was like, yeah, I'll take a bourbon neat. What

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do you have? And he goes, he reaches over and

00:20:12.230 --> 00:20:17.210
he gets the Novacek 84. Right. The open bottle

00:20:17.210 --> 00:20:19.549
Novacek 84. We've had that. Yes. It was good.

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It was not good. And I was like, yeah, sure,

00:20:22.559 --> 00:20:24.099
whatever. I mean, I'm not going to be rude and

00:20:24.099 --> 00:20:26.279
go, oh, that's not good enough for me. Do you

00:20:26.279 --> 00:20:29.940
know who I am? Oh, please. Anyway, so yeah, I

00:20:29.940 --> 00:20:31.720
drank it. But then after I was done with it,

00:20:31.759 --> 00:20:33.259
I was like, okay, well, you know, I'm ready for

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another drink, but I'm not going to have that

00:20:34.759 --> 00:20:37.119
again, right? Right. But he wasn't anywhere around,

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right? So I was like kind of going over to his

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bar and, you know, and I was looking around.

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You don't open an unopened bottle. Correct. At

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somebody's house. Unless they tell you, hey,

00:20:49.069 --> 00:20:51.589
open whatever you want. Hey, mine is yours. Open

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up anything you want. Absolutely. I didn't get

00:20:53.329 --> 00:20:57.650
any of that. Anyway, so I solicited the help

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of the daughter. And, you know, she was like,

00:20:59.950 --> 00:21:01.789
oh, yeah, open up whatever you want. I was like,

00:21:01.849 --> 00:21:03.829
yeah, no, you don't do that. Right. I was like,

00:21:03.849 --> 00:21:06.710
you know. Anyway, so I was hunting around. How

00:21:06.710 --> 00:21:11.089
old was the daughter? She's 27. I don't know.

00:21:12.130 --> 00:21:15.380
Yeah, she's 27. So she was just like. He doesn't

00:21:15.380 --> 00:21:17.299
care. Right. Right. He doesn't care. Just open

00:21:17.299 --> 00:21:19.119
up whatever. Yeah. He said he's for years. They're

00:21:19.119 --> 00:21:23.140
closed. Right. So anyway, so collectors. So I'm

00:21:23.140 --> 00:21:24.579
hunting around, but I'm like, OK, I'm not going

00:21:24.579 --> 00:21:26.079
to be weird. They're in a case. Start going through

00:21:26.079 --> 00:21:28.220
his cupboards and stuff. Right. Anyway, so he

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shows up or she goes and gets him and he comes

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back. And I was like, so, you know, the bottles

00:21:33.819 --> 00:21:35.180
that you've got up here, you know, they just

00:21:35.180 --> 00:21:39.990
for show or. And he's like, well. Yeah, you know,

00:21:40.009 --> 00:21:42.809
I'm kind of saving those for, you know, the guys

00:21:42.809 --> 00:21:44.670
that bought me those bottles. You know, we were

00:21:44.670 --> 00:21:46.650
going to open those together. So why don't you

00:21:46.650 --> 00:21:52.329
just have another Novichek? So let's talk about

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etiquette. So I discussed this with my coworkers.

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I was like, so what do you do? You're right.

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So she was actually pretty smart about it. She

00:22:00.390 --> 00:22:03.009
was like, you bring out stuff that you're willing

00:22:03.009 --> 00:22:04.730
to share, but the stuff you're not willing to

00:22:04.730 --> 00:22:06.829
share, you put away. Correct. You just don't

00:22:06.829 --> 00:22:09.440
show it. Correct. Or you put it on the top shelf.

00:22:10.400 --> 00:22:13.460
You can, yeah, but you're better off just not

00:22:13.460 --> 00:22:16.160
showing it. You may not have a top shelf. I don't

00:22:16.160 --> 00:22:19.319
want to. I mean, look, I get it. Right. I get

00:22:19.319 --> 00:22:21.779
it, but at the same time, dude, I have a collection.

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Here it is. You can drink anything from this

00:22:25.059 --> 00:22:29.690
section here. The rest of it, fuck off. I guess.

00:22:30.569 --> 00:22:33.410
There's my etiquette. Your etiquette's a little

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different. The people you invite into your study,

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they're your really good friends. You can say

00:22:38.809 --> 00:22:42.190
anything to them. Let's say it's a co -worker

00:22:42.190 --> 00:22:44.630
and you're trying to be cordial. I'm talking

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about a more formal scenario. It's not just buddies

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where you're like, fuck off, you're not drinking

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that. I don't know. I wouldn't feel uncomfortable

00:22:53.529 --> 00:22:57.099
telling that. Plus, I wouldn't feel uncomfortable

00:22:57.099 --> 00:22:59.700
saying. I would just say I'm saving that. Yeah,

00:22:59.799 --> 00:23:01.140
I don't think I would have added to it. It's

00:23:01.140 --> 00:23:02.859
just like, yeah, this is for something else.

00:23:03.640 --> 00:23:06.700
I'm saving that for later. Anyway, I just was

00:23:06.700 --> 00:23:09.720
like, I don't know. It made me kind of question

00:23:09.720 --> 00:23:12.259
what the etiquette really should be, right? Did

00:23:12.259 --> 00:23:15.150
you have anything other besides that? I mean,

00:23:15.150 --> 00:23:19.089
if you got one bottle of that and some Williamsburg

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and, you know, and there's, like, you're skimming

00:23:22.769 --> 00:23:24.470
the bottle there. I got my McKenna in the car,

00:23:24.490 --> 00:23:27.809
but you'll get it. Right? Right? Anyway, I don't

00:23:27.809 --> 00:23:29.210
know. You're trolling for carp for the bottom

00:23:29.210 --> 00:23:31.490
dwellers, you know? I don't know. Because my

00:23:31.490 --> 00:23:33.470
style is, you know, hey, do you like bourbon?

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And I pull out everything. As a matter of fact,

00:23:36.650 --> 00:23:40.130
I think I even opened a bottle when he was at

00:23:40.130 --> 00:23:42.410
my house. Right. You know what I mean? Well,

00:23:42.509 --> 00:23:43.670
what do you have up there? Did you recognize

00:23:43.670 --> 00:23:45.750
it, or was that too long ago? I'm trying to remember

00:23:45.750 --> 00:23:49.130
what was up there. I mean, it was Hell House,

00:23:49.269 --> 00:23:51.869
which we know is really good. Well, I mean, look,

00:23:51.990 --> 00:23:55.630
in my collection, there's only a couple I don't

00:23:55.630 --> 00:23:58.650
want to open. I'll open up all of them. You have

00:23:58.650 --> 00:24:01.430
a whole bank of them. Yeah, you have a rack that's

00:24:01.430 --> 00:24:03.490
never going to be opened, ever. Oh, you're talking

00:24:03.490 --> 00:24:06.109
about the 1845s. Oh, that's okay. It's an untouchable

00:24:06.109 --> 00:24:08.069
collection. But that's a collection. There's

00:24:08.069 --> 00:24:10.170
a difference. Yeah, I hear you. But, I mean,

00:24:10.190 --> 00:24:13.640
the top one, which I'm like, oh, those are collectors.

00:24:13.940 --> 00:24:18.500
I love those. The Rebecca Creek, I probably won't

00:24:18.500 --> 00:24:21.259
open that for a very long time. The Tahoe Alarca,

00:24:21.460 --> 00:24:25.519
whatever you say that, is 142, 144 proof. Yeah,

00:24:25.599 --> 00:24:27.819
that one's staying in the can. I'm leaving that

00:24:27.819 --> 00:24:29.259
one alone because it's freaking wonderful. No,

00:24:29.259 --> 00:24:30.900
no, no, I get it. I get it. I mean, there are

00:24:30.900 --> 00:24:32.640
definitely ones that you want to pull out for

00:24:32.640 --> 00:24:36.059
special occasions. I think folks who may appreciate

00:24:36.059 --> 00:24:38.509
it when you do pull it out. Yeah. Not someone

00:24:38.509 --> 00:24:41.289
who's like, yeah, well, my bourbon experience

00:24:41.289 --> 00:24:45.890
is Jim Beam. Try this 142 -proof top. Here's

00:24:45.890 --> 00:24:49.309
a redemption for you. Hand them a 110 -proof,

00:24:49.549 --> 00:24:52.150
and they're going to be like, oh, God. Because

00:24:52.150 --> 00:24:53.930
we were. Do you have some Coke? Remember that?

00:24:53.990 --> 00:24:56.829
We were that way. Anything that was over 100

00:24:56.829 --> 00:24:58.789
-proof, we were like, God. There was a time where

00:24:58.789 --> 00:25:00.829
we didn't even like rye. We were just kind of,

00:25:00.829 --> 00:25:03.349
this is horrible. This is horrible. So I don't

00:25:03.349 --> 00:25:05.660
fault them for that, but to your point. You're

00:25:05.660 --> 00:25:07.660
not, don't bring out stuff that you don't think

00:25:07.660 --> 00:25:10.460
they're going to enjoy. Now, I pulled out 1792

00:25:10.460 --> 00:25:12.759
single barrel because that might be 98 proof,

00:25:12.960 --> 00:25:16.240
but for me, that's a super smooth, you know,

00:25:16.240 --> 00:25:17.460
so if you're going to try to like, you know,

00:25:17.480 --> 00:25:19.839
tease them, like, hey, you might like higher

00:25:19.839 --> 00:25:21.759
proof stuff, you know, take a little sip here,

00:25:21.819 --> 00:25:23.559
see what you think. If you need to put water

00:25:23.559 --> 00:25:25.920
in it or ice cube. Whatever, sure. Put a cube

00:25:25.920 --> 00:25:28.539
in it. Absolutely. Anyway. Anyway, I thought

00:25:28.539 --> 00:25:30.819
it was an interesting topic because, I don't

00:25:30.819 --> 00:25:34.009
know, some. I guess different people have different

00:25:34.009 --> 00:25:38.650
ideas about what to share. So anyway. That falls

00:25:38.650 --> 00:25:40.910
in line with everything. It falls in line with

00:25:40.910 --> 00:25:43.470
your wine collections. In fact, we could probably

00:25:43.470 --> 00:25:46.349
relate it more to wine. I mean, you go into someone's

00:25:46.349 --> 00:25:49.190
wine collection area, you know that there's some

00:25:49.190 --> 00:25:51.710
wines that are collectors and you really don't

00:25:51.710 --> 00:25:53.809
want, you're not going to put all those bottles

00:25:53.809 --> 00:25:57.109
away. Right. Just leave them there and just make

00:25:57.109 --> 00:25:59.900
it short and simple. Be respectful. Oh, I just

00:25:59.900 --> 00:26:02.200
open up their little wine thing, and I just pull

00:26:02.200 --> 00:26:04.920
out whatever bottle, and I rip it open. I choose

00:26:04.920 --> 00:26:07.859
to uncork it. Get to Boone's Farm. No, no. I

00:26:07.859 --> 00:26:09.900
mean, whatever. That was a $4 ,000 bottle of

00:26:09.900 --> 00:26:12.720
Chateau. And I'm like, oh, this is awful. Why

00:26:12.720 --> 00:26:14.759
do you like this? Oh, man. There's sediment.

00:26:15.359 --> 00:26:17.359
I'm going to mix this with some orange slices

00:26:17.359 --> 00:26:19.779
and soda pop. You're going to make some sangria

00:26:19.779 --> 00:26:23.519
out of it. Do you have any Sprite? I told you

00:26:23.519 --> 00:26:26.180
I did this. This is way before I knew anything

00:26:26.180 --> 00:26:28.380
about bourbons. I was at a friend's house, and

00:26:28.380 --> 00:26:30.859
he had, I think it was probably single barrel.

00:26:31.240 --> 00:26:33.160
I don't know what it was, but it was obviously

00:26:33.160 --> 00:26:35.420
important to him. But he was a super cool dude,

00:26:35.579 --> 00:26:37.099
and he was offering it. Well, you said it was

00:26:37.099 --> 00:26:40.519
Blanton's. No, it wasn't Blanton's. It was a

00:26:40.519 --> 00:26:42.200
square bottle. It almost makes me think it was

00:26:42.200 --> 00:26:44.279
a single bottle of Jack Daniels of some sort.

00:26:44.380 --> 00:26:46.920
But I think it was nicer than that. Anyway, so

00:26:46.920 --> 00:26:49.940
I didn't appreciate drinking it straight. I was

00:26:49.940 --> 00:26:52.779
nothing but bourbon and Coke, right? And so,

00:26:52.819 --> 00:26:55.099
yeah, I asked him, I go, you know, I was like,

00:26:55.119 --> 00:26:58.559
you have any soda? I'll mix it with soda. I wish.

00:26:59.099 --> 00:27:00.559
That's one of those moments you want to go back

00:27:00.559 --> 00:27:02.980
in time and be like, come on, dude. Have you

00:27:02.980 --> 00:27:05.079
seen the intermodal log? Oh, yeah. It was at

00:27:05.079 --> 00:27:09.960
this time you knew you fucked up. Yeah, it's

00:27:09.960 --> 00:27:11.380
one of those moments you can go back in time

00:27:11.380 --> 00:27:13.599
just for a second and be like, yeah, I'll drink

00:27:13.599 --> 00:27:17.210
that straight. If I can turn back time. But he

00:27:17.210 --> 00:27:18.990
was never a dick about it. He brought me some

00:27:18.990 --> 00:27:20.690
root beer out there, and I mixed it with root

00:27:20.690 --> 00:27:22.750
beer, and it was amazing. And he just kind of

00:27:22.750 --> 00:27:25.630
laughed, and he was a cool dude about it. I would

00:27:25.630 --> 00:27:27.789
have said, this is one you really don't mix.

00:27:28.089 --> 00:27:29.769
I would have said something. Yeah, you would

00:27:29.769 --> 00:27:33.009
have said, before you do that, try it. Yes. I

00:27:33.009 --> 00:27:37.309
would preface that if someone came over and they

00:27:37.309 --> 00:27:38.950
wanted some of the bourbon they got downstairs,

00:27:39.390 --> 00:27:41.910
I'd be like, do you like it neat? Right. No,

00:27:41.930 --> 00:27:43.309
I want to mix it. Okay, then you're getting this.

00:27:43.569 --> 00:27:45.890
Right. If you want to try it straight, here,

00:27:46.049 --> 00:27:47.289
I recommend these. And you're not being a dick

00:27:47.289 --> 00:27:48.849
about it. Right. You're like saying, hey, I want

00:27:48.849 --> 00:27:50.869
you to experience different things. If you're

00:27:50.869 --> 00:27:53.069
not a bourbon guy, let's have some fun with this.

00:27:53.230 --> 00:27:55.309
Right. Right? Add a little water, add a cube,

00:27:55.450 --> 00:27:58.009
add this, add that. Yeah. So, yeah, I agree.

00:27:58.490 --> 00:28:00.710
And then you turn into kind of a snob, so to

00:28:00.710 --> 00:28:02.910
speak. I mean, because then you're like... Yeah,

00:28:02.950 --> 00:28:05.349
you're kind of like... Maybe you should have

00:28:05.349 --> 00:28:07.650
an old -fashioned, how about a Manhattan? Maybe

00:28:07.650 --> 00:28:09.890
you should try this. You got to have the Luxado

00:28:09.890 --> 00:28:12.009
cherry. Just give him what he fucking wants and

00:28:12.009 --> 00:28:13.829
move on. Or you open with, so let me get this

00:28:13.829 --> 00:28:15.730
straight. You don't know how to drink bourbon?

00:28:16.289 --> 00:28:20.670
Oh, my God. Oh, my God. That was amazing. Your

00:28:20.670 --> 00:28:23.170
facial expression looked like Robert De Niro.

00:28:23.250 --> 00:28:27.410
I hate Robert De Niro. You were him. You channeled

00:28:27.410 --> 00:28:29.309
your Bob De Niro. You did. He looked just like

00:28:29.309 --> 00:28:32.970
him. Let me get this straight. No, you lost it.

00:28:33.009 --> 00:28:37.190
Good, because I can't stand that guy. It was

00:28:37.190 --> 00:28:41.640
Chuck. Chuck had pulled up how Char. chartreuse

00:28:41.640 --> 00:28:45.359
taste, and it said vegetal, herbal... Vegetal?

00:28:45.460 --> 00:28:51.200
Vegetal? Vegetable? Vaginal. Plus a little lime,

00:28:51.279 --> 00:28:55.440
I think, was... Vaginal lime? I'll have to remember

00:28:55.440 --> 00:28:59.660
that. Vegetation? It could be pronounced that.

00:28:59.980 --> 00:29:04.960
I mean, is there a... Hold on. We're talking

00:29:04.960 --> 00:29:06.940
about vegetation and vaginal. What are we talking

00:29:06.940 --> 00:29:09.220
about here? It tastes like veggies. How would

00:29:09.220 --> 00:29:12.640
you say it tastes like veggies? Vegetal. Vegetal?

00:29:12.819 --> 00:29:17.319
Vaginal. Or that. Vegetal. Vegetal? Vegetal.

00:29:17.420 --> 00:29:21.819
Oh, God. Vegetalist. Tell you what. Ask the same

00:29:21.819 --> 00:29:24.039
question in the second half of the podcast. And

00:29:24.039 --> 00:29:30.289
let's see where it goes. Shut up! Right. Well,

00:29:30.430 --> 00:29:33.910
they had the – you know what? I'm kind of curious.

00:29:33.990 --> 00:29:36.950
I don't even recall. Last week we were – when

00:29:36.950 --> 00:29:38.609
did the draft start? Was it Thursday? It was

00:29:38.609 --> 00:29:41.029
Thursday, yeah. Thursday, and Sanders eventually

00:29:41.029 --> 00:29:43.789
did get picked, right? Fifth round. Fifth round.

00:29:43.910 --> 00:29:46.049
Fifth round. Yeah, well, that's humbling. Good

00:29:46.049 --> 00:29:47.769
for him, though. Did you see where they're trying

00:29:47.769 --> 00:29:50.509
to spread the – because basically the team's

00:29:50.509 --> 00:29:52.450
running off like, yeah, he's entitled, idiot.

00:29:53.689 --> 00:29:56.470
pompous asshole he had horrible interviews well

00:29:56.470 --> 00:29:59.109
he is now or someone is trying to someone's trying

00:29:59.109 --> 00:30:01.690
to spin it spin it that oh well he only did that

00:30:01.690 --> 00:30:03.589
to the teams that he didn't want to go to yeah

00:30:03.589 --> 00:30:06.650
he bombed those interviews so bad to the teams

00:30:06.650 --> 00:30:08.230
he really didn't want to go it was fine i mean

00:30:08.230 --> 00:30:10.250
that would still be in line guess what it worked

00:30:10.250 --> 00:30:12.549
well i mean it's still in line with what they're

00:30:12.549 --> 00:30:15.450
saying was his character and was his his you

00:30:15.450 --> 00:30:18.630
know personality in these interviews i mean And

00:30:18.630 --> 00:30:20.470
even in the ones that he wanted to go to, he

00:30:20.470 --> 00:30:22.470
was still apparently arrogant and saying that

00:30:22.470 --> 00:30:24.470
he was going to, you know, if you want a culture

00:30:24.470 --> 00:30:27.730
-changing quarterback, I'm your guy, and I'm

00:30:27.730 --> 00:30:28.789
going to go in there, and I'm going to be your

00:30:28.789 --> 00:30:30.549
locker room, this and that. I mean, he was just

00:30:30.549 --> 00:30:33.289
over the top. And I'm going to need this, this,

00:30:33.329 --> 00:30:34.470
this, this, and this. Oh, he was making demands

00:30:34.470 --> 00:30:36.869
about how the offense needs to be run if he's

00:30:36.869 --> 00:30:40.049
behind the center. I mean, I don't know. I mean,

00:30:40.109 --> 00:30:42.029
it was pretty clear. Now, is he a quarterback?

00:30:42.329 --> 00:30:47.200
Yes. Is he good? It's debatable. Yeah, it really

00:30:47.200 --> 00:30:51.380
is. He has a lot of hype. How tall is he? I don't

00:30:51.380 --> 00:30:53.279
think he's super tall. No, he's like 6 '2", maybe.

00:30:53.480 --> 00:30:56.400
He's not super tall. So that was the problem.

00:30:56.480 --> 00:30:58.519
So when you combine the fact that the perception

00:30:58.519 --> 00:31:00.640
was that he was entitled and he was all those

00:31:00.640 --> 00:31:02.380
things we just talked about, and you combine

00:31:02.380 --> 00:31:05.000
it with the fact that his skill set... wasn't

00:31:05.000 --> 00:31:07.920
knocking anybody's socks off. His mechanics during

00:31:07.920 --> 00:31:13.539
the combine or during his pro day for scouts

00:31:13.539 --> 00:31:16.119
and teams and stuff, they were like, oh boy,

00:31:16.240 --> 00:31:18.059
that's going to have to be fixed. Well, you had

00:31:18.059 --> 00:31:22.180
some college kids punk him by calling him up

00:31:22.180 --> 00:31:26.640
saying he was the Miami Dolphins general manager.

00:31:26.779 --> 00:31:29.440
Did you hear about that? Yes. That was such a

00:31:29.440 --> 00:31:31.279
shitty thing to do. That was pretty shitty. So

00:31:31.279 --> 00:31:33.680
he was already sliding. So he had slid out of

00:31:33.680 --> 00:31:35.720
the first round, slid out of the second round,

00:31:35.839 --> 00:31:39.000
and then somehow some coaches, an Atlanta Falcons

00:31:39.000 --> 00:31:43.220
coach, son, got a hold of his draft number. Because

00:31:43.220 --> 00:31:46.279
I guess they're issued phones for the draft.

00:31:46.460 --> 00:31:49.359
Just one number, yep. For the draft. And so he

00:31:49.359 --> 00:31:51.559
had left it on a notepad, apparently is the story

00:31:51.559 --> 00:31:54.640
I read. and the son saw it on a notepad and was

00:31:54.640 --> 00:31:57.519
like, no way, I've got Sanders' number, and decided

00:31:57.519 --> 00:31:59.980
to prank call him and say that he... And I don't

00:31:59.980 --> 00:32:02.220
fault Sanders for this, because you think whatever

00:32:02.220 --> 00:32:04.359
call I'm going to get on this is going to be

00:32:04.359 --> 00:32:08.440
from an NFL team. Yeah, but his response... Oh,

00:32:08.480 --> 00:32:09.799
I didn't see what his response was. Sanders'

00:32:09.920 --> 00:32:11.839
response, I mean, during the call, it was kind

00:32:11.839 --> 00:32:14.680
of like, I can't wait to be a legend or something

00:32:14.680 --> 00:32:18.299
like that. Did you recall what he said? No, his...

00:32:18.750 --> 00:32:21.569
You know, his comments after slipping out of

00:32:21.569 --> 00:32:23.329
the first round. Scroll up just a little bit.

00:32:23.450 --> 00:32:26.869
Yeah. It says, let's be legendary. It's been

00:32:26.869 --> 00:32:29.109
a long way. We're going to take you to with our

00:32:29.109 --> 00:32:34.170
next pick, man. Oh, let's be legendary. You know,

00:32:34.170 --> 00:32:37.190
I mean, what a pompous, narcissistic thing to

00:32:37.190 --> 00:32:40.190
say. Well, he's overconfident. There's no question

00:32:40.190 --> 00:32:43.500
about it. Yeah. He's been taught to have. Endless

00:32:43.500 --> 00:32:45.740
amounts of confidence. I don't have an issue

00:32:45.740 --> 00:32:47.400
with that as long as he backs it up and he's

00:32:47.400 --> 00:32:50.460
not demeaning to anybody else, right? I mean,

00:32:50.480 --> 00:32:52.559
there's nothing wrong with being confident. That's

00:32:52.559 --> 00:32:55.339
my take on that. Yeah, that's the half glass

00:32:55.339 --> 00:32:58.119
full take. I can respect that. But I will tell

00:32:58.119 --> 00:33:01.619
you, he had something nice to say or gracious

00:33:01.619 --> 00:33:04.559
to say about the caller. Like they said, you

00:33:04.559 --> 00:33:07.220
know, how did you feel about that prank caller,

00:33:07.359 --> 00:33:09.559
blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And he said something

00:33:09.559 --> 00:33:12.839
to the effect of... They got me good? No, he

00:33:12.839 --> 00:33:15.279
said, we've all done childish things, and it

00:33:15.279 --> 00:33:19.140
was a childish thing to do, but we move on. I

00:33:19.140 --> 00:33:22.319
was like, damn, if you had been saying that kind

00:33:22.319 --> 00:33:24.920
of shit and had that sort of demeanor and humility

00:33:24.920 --> 00:33:28.559
while you were doing all these interviews, it

00:33:28.559 --> 00:33:30.660
would be a different story. Maybe the humility

00:33:30.660 --> 00:33:33.759
was starting to set in at that point. Here's

00:33:33.759 --> 00:33:35.700
the good thing. I'm not rooting against this

00:33:35.700 --> 00:33:38.509
kid at all. This actually was a good thing for

00:33:38.509 --> 00:33:41.849
him. I think so. Because it needed to reset.

00:33:43.009 --> 00:33:44.589
I'm going to dog his father. He was probably

00:33:44.589 --> 00:33:48.190
listening to his arrogant father about how to

00:33:48.190 --> 00:33:49.849
act and what to do and what to say and all this

00:33:49.849 --> 00:33:52.029
kind of stuff. And he probably realized, yeah,

00:33:52.170 --> 00:33:54.849
that actually wasn't good advice. So I'm going

00:33:54.849 --> 00:33:57.069
to be my own man, and I have something to prove

00:33:57.069 --> 00:33:59.950
because it was embarrassing. It was humiliating,

00:33:59.990 --> 00:34:02.630
to be honest. Right. It was humiliating. And

00:34:02.630 --> 00:34:04.349
he ended up with the team that probably should

00:34:04.349 --> 00:34:06.740
have drafted him number two anyway. The Cleveland

00:34:06.740 --> 00:34:08.619
Browns. No, they have five quarterbacks. I know.

00:34:08.639 --> 00:34:10.760
I don't understand that situation. You know what

00:34:10.760 --> 00:34:13.039
I think? I think the owner, because apparently

00:34:13.039 --> 00:34:15.739
when they drafted Sanders, they had a picture

00:34:15.739 --> 00:34:19.659
of the draft room, and they were not, like, clapping

00:34:19.659 --> 00:34:21.820
or anything. Oh, really? They apparently, like,

00:34:21.860 --> 00:34:24.440
looked very stoic, and that made me think that

00:34:24.440 --> 00:34:27.400
the owner said, you draft him. Because they traded

00:34:27.400 --> 00:34:30.719
up to get him in the fifth round. Oh, really?

00:34:30.880 --> 00:34:34.690
Yes. Huh. Which made no sense. So I think the

00:34:34.690 --> 00:34:36.570
owner. And they took another quarterback, too.

00:34:36.849 --> 00:34:39.690
Before him. Yeah, Dylan Gabriel. Before him,

00:34:39.769 --> 00:34:43.090
yes. Several rounds before him. None of it made

00:34:43.090 --> 00:34:46.809
sense. 50 picks. So who's Brown's current quarterback?

00:34:47.130 --> 00:34:50.849
It was Deshaun Watson. But he's a piece of shit.

00:34:50.989 --> 00:34:52.789
And he's done. And he's done. They got Kenny

00:34:52.789 --> 00:34:56.070
Pickens. They got Joe Flacco. Which are two Super

00:34:56.070 --> 00:34:59.329
Bowl quarterbacks. Okay. Kenny Pickett? I'm just

00:34:59.329 --> 00:35:02.090
saying. Kenny Pickett. Kenny Pickett was not.

00:35:02.190 --> 00:35:04.090
They're saying he was in the Super Bowl. No,

00:35:04.170 --> 00:35:08.730
he's not. No? No. The exact quote was he has

00:35:08.730 --> 00:35:11.730
to compete with two Super Bowl quarterbacks.

00:35:11.829 --> 00:35:14.730
That's what the quote was. Kenny Pickett was

00:35:14.730 --> 00:35:18.389
with Pittsburgh for a few years. I wondered if

00:35:18.389 --> 00:35:20.170
he had played a snap in a Super Bowl or not.

00:35:20.190 --> 00:35:24.739
I didn't know. Did he go to the Eagles? But I

00:35:24.739 --> 00:35:26.099
don't know. I think he may have gone. No, he

00:35:26.099 --> 00:35:27.960
went to the Eagles. So, yeah, he was a backup

00:35:27.960 --> 00:35:30.119
for the Eagles. Okay, a backup but didn't play.

00:35:30.280 --> 00:35:32.139
He did not play. Okay, well, that's a stretch.

00:35:32.300 --> 00:35:34.219
To say that he's a Super Bowl quarterback is

00:35:34.219 --> 00:35:36.199
a stretch. But anyway, that's what they were

00:35:36.199 --> 00:35:37.760
saying. He was going to have to compete against

00:35:37.760 --> 00:35:40.380
two guys that have experience. Joe Flacco's got

00:35:40.380 --> 00:35:42.420
a shit ton of experience, although he's old.

00:35:42.619 --> 00:35:45.300
Yeah. Anyway, so we'll see. I'm not rooting against

00:35:45.300 --> 00:35:48.420
the guy. I hope he's been humbled by this experience.

00:35:48.739 --> 00:35:52.260
So how is Dallas, how does our team kind of?

00:35:52.880 --> 00:35:55.699
How'd they do in the draft? I saw mixed reviews.

00:35:55.880 --> 00:35:59.199
Some are giving you Bs, some are B +, some are

00:35:59.199 --> 00:36:02.159
C, C -s. I saw one was an A for the Cowboys.

00:36:02.159 --> 00:36:04.400
I think it's a matter of opinion. Totally is.

00:36:05.260 --> 00:36:07.780
Whoever rates those, right? Do you want skill

00:36:07.780 --> 00:36:09.739
players? Because they really didn't get any skill.

00:36:09.800 --> 00:36:12.639
They got a couple in the late rounds. Or do you

00:36:12.639 --> 00:36:15.579
want the interior line? type folks, defense and

00:36:15.579 --> 00:36:17.380
offense. Yeah, I think Jerry was interested in

00:36:17.380 --> 00:36:20.760
rebuilding the O -line. Yeah, so it just depends.

00:36:20.760 --> 00:36:22.519
I don't know who these players are, but maybe

00:36:22.519 --> 00:36:23.940
you could tell them. I'm going to name three

00:36:23.940 --> 00:36:26.780
of them. There's Tyler Booker, Donovan, Aziraku,

00:36:27.099 --> 00:36:31.159
and Siobhan Ravel. Yeah, so an offensive lineman

00:36:31.159 --> 00:36:33.440
was their number one pick. Was that Tyler Booker?

00:36:33.440 --> 00:36:36.139
Tyler Booker. And how do you say that other one?

00:36:36.360 --> 00:36:39.960
Defensive end? Oh, it's Aziraku. Aziraku. I have

00:36:39.960 --> 00:36:42.750
no idea. He's a defensive end, so a defensive

00:36:42.750 --> 00:36:45.369
end like Micah Parsons kind of a thing. Yeah.

00:36:46.349 --> 00:36:48.449
And then Siobhan Revell is a cornerback, kind

00:36:48.449 --> 00:36:52.150
of like Diggs. Yeah, I guess we're replacing

00:36:52.150 --> 00:36:54.809
Diggs, who just left us, right? No, his brother,

00:36:54.909 --> 00:36:57.590
no. Well, who just left us that was Diggs? It

00:36:57.590 --> 00:36:59.369
wasn't Siobhan Diggs. Well, there was a Diggs.

00:36:59.369 --> 00:37:00.929
Who just left us? The one that went to Houston.

00:37:01.170 --> 00:37:02.949
Yeah, who went to Houston? He was from the Bills.

00:37:03.030 --> 00:37:05.150
That was Siobhan Diggs. Oh, I thought it was

00:37:05.150 --> 00:37:06.789
from the Cowboys. I was kind of disappointed

00:37:06.789 --> 00:37:08.690
because I was like, damn, I got his jersey. No,

00:37:08.690 --> 00:37:10.469
he's still there. I've got to go buy another

00:37:10.469 --> 00:37:13.829
jersey. All right, it's good for another year.

00:37:13.989 --> 00:37:17.150
Yeah, he's still there. But, you know, it's a

00:37:17.150 --> 00:37:19.849
mixed bag. It's what camp do you live in. Do

00:37:19.849 --> 00:37:22.110
you want the rebuilding the offensive defense,

00:37:22.269 --> 00:37:24.469
or do you want the, man, we need another receiver,

00:37:24.670 --> 00:37:26.670
we need some running backs, tight ends. It's

00:37:26.670 --> 00:37:28.489
so subjective. You don't know who's going to

00:37:28.489 --> 00:37:30.309
be a bust. You don't know who's going to, you

00:37:30.309 --> 00:37:32.789
know. There are fourth, fifth, sixth, seventh

00:37:32.789 --> 00:37:35.309
rounders that end up being superstars in the

00:37:35.309 --> 00:37:37.230
NFL. Yeah, the first rounders, like Mossy Smith.

00:37:37.719 --> 00:37:40.039
I think he was first round, what, three years

00:37:40.039 --> 00:37:45.480
ago? Right. And he's not... Not doing much. No,

00:37:45.500 --> 00:37:47.659
he's not performing the way they expected. Right.

00:37:48.300 --> 00:37:50.920
It's a crapshoot, man. The game is so different

00:37:50.920 --> 00:37:54.619
between college and NFL. Sometimes they don't

00:37:54.619 --> 00:37:57.019
even peak until they get into their stride, which

00:37:57.019 --> 00:38:00.460
may be a year, two years into it. If they even

00:38:00.460 --> 00:38:02.539
get the opportunity. Yeah. And then all of a

00:38:02.539 --> 00:38:05.099
sudden, they're there for two, three years, they

00:38:05.099 --> 00:38:06.820
switch teams, and then all of a sudden, bam.

00:38:07.320 --> 00:38:08.980
They're on fire. Yeah, it's like, how'd that

00:38:08.980 --> 00:38:12.199
happen? It's dynamic. It's chemical. It's the

00:38:12.199 --> 00:38:16.539
relationships between your O -line. There's some

00:38:16.539 --> 00:38:18.599
sort of thing going on. A connection with the

00:38:18.599 --> 00:38:20.920
quarterback if you're a wide receiver. Suddenly

00:38:20.920 --> 00:38:22.900
now you're one of their top targets and you weren't

00:38:22.900 --> 00:38:25.159
before. So overall, the Cowboys didn't make a

00:38:25.159 --> 00:38:27.260
splash with their wide receivers at all. No.

00:38:27.420 --> 00:38:29.599
They didn't pick up any. They picked up Jaden

00:38:29.599 --> 00:38:35.400
Blue, who I think is a running back. And he's

00:38:35.400 --> 00:38:37.260
supposed to be – From Texas. Yeah, he's from

00:38:37.260 --> 00:38:39.860
Texas. Supposed to be really fast. So outside

00:38:39.860 --> 00:38:41.340
of that, I don't really know much. I watched

00:38:41.340 --> 00:38:44.679
him in a few games. But outside of the skill

00:38:44.679 --> 00:38:46.159
players, I think that's about it. Everything

00:38:46.159 --> 00:38:50.320
else is – oh, there's a Phil Mafa. Phil Mafa.

00:38:50.599 --> 00:38:54.760
So how did your – Mafa. How did your Bengals

00:38:54.760 --> 00:38:59.280
do? Again, mixed bag, right? Yeah. I saw a pretty

00:38:59.280 --> 00:39:01.539
low grade. I was like, why? Yeah. I didn't know

00:39:01.539 --> 00:39:04.949
why. It's kind of a mixed bag. Their first win,

00:39:05.030 --> 00:39:07.550
Shamar Stewart, I guess is just the ultimate

00:39:07.550 --> 00:39:10.469
unit. Does that mean they only got six picks

00:39:10.469 --> 00:39:15.010
in the entire draft? Yep. They've probably traded

00:39:15.010 --> 00:39:18.510
some and used some of their picks for trades

00:39:18.510 --> 00:39:23.230
and shit like that. So how many is typical? I

00:39:23.230 --> 00:39:25.489
mean, I know you get one per round, but shouldn't

00:39:25.489 --> 00:39:27.389
you have like two? Oh, there's seven rounds,

00:39:27.449 --> 00:39:29.670
right? Oh, there's seven rounds. Yeah. So they

00:39:29.670 --> 00:39:31.909
traded one away or had to give one away for something

00:39:31.909 --> 00:39:34.710
else. Bring up the Titans. I guess seven or eight

00:39:34.710 --> 00:39:39.210
is basically what's normal. Yeah. God, it seems

00:39:39.210 --> 00:39:41.289
like with the draft being so long. See, look

00:39:41.289 --> 00:39:43.230
at that. We got a whole bunch. Well, it depends

00:39:43.230 --> 00:39:47.010
how active you are on the free agency and trades

00:39:47.010 --> 00:39:49.389
and shit. Hey, I'll give you. second and third

00:39:49.389 --> 00:39:51.409
round for next year kind of a thing, right? We

00:39:51.409 --> 00:39:54.230
have nine picks. And maybe this is a year where

00:39:54.230 --> 00:39:56.489
a lot of shit came due for the Bengals. No, and

00:39:56.489 --> 00:39:58.269
I did my research, and every single one of them

00:39:58.269 --> 00:40:00.210
is a superstar, they said. Every single one of

00:40:00.210 --> 00:40:02.269
them. So Cam Ward, is he going to be first string?

00:40:03.449 --> 00:40:05.869
They said he, believe it or not, he's going to

00:40:05.869 --> 00:40:08.670
have to compete with Will Levis and the other

00:40:08.670 --> 00:40:10.869
quarterback they brought in. Curious. Which is

00:40:10.869 --> 00:40:14.210
what you always say as a GM. You don't want anybody

00:40:14.210 --> 00:40:16.880
walking in. thinking that they have the starting

00:40:16.880 --> 00:40:19.880
role. You want them to compete, right? And you

00:40:19.880 --> 00:40:22.699
want their backups to have a fire, you know,

00:40:22.760 --> 00:40:26.139
and fight for their positions. There have been

00:40:26.139 --> 00:40:29.699
plenty of backups that have excelled. And you

00:40:29.699 --> 00:40:32.099
can look at San Francisco 49ers from the frickin'

00:40:32.099 --> 00:40:35.159
early 90s, you know, Joe Montana, Steve Young,

00:40:35.199 --> 00:40:38.139
and whoever the hell was after him. They had

00:40:38.139 --> 00:40:42.480
three back -to -back. Who? Not that far back.

00:40:42.900 --> 00:40:45.340
Colin Kaepernick. Colin Kaepernick. Oh, God.

00:40:45.579 --> 00:40:48.480
What an asshat. Yeah. Who followed Steve Young?

00:40:49.500 --> 00:40:52.280
I don't know. Because you had Montana, then Steve.

00:40:52.380 --> 00:40:55.719
It's not fair. There are certain teams, like

00:40:55.719 --> 00:40:58.699
the Green Bay Packers. You had Brett Favre for,

00:40:58.760 --> 00:41:01.139
it seems like, 30 years. And then you had Aaron

00:41:01.139 --> 00:41:03.460
Rodgers for the next 20 years. I know. Ridiculous.

00:41:03.480 --> 00:41:05.380
It's just like, come on. And they didn't go through

00:41:05.380 --> 00:41:07.079
a period where they had a shitty quarterback

00:41:07.079 --> 00:41:08.960
and they struggled as a team. Yeah, and don't

00:41:08.960 --> 00:41:12.500
turn your back on Jordan. Love. Yeah, another

00:41:12.500 --> 00:41:15.320
one. He's been serviceable the last couple years.

00:41:15.599 --> 00:41:18.340
Was it Alex Smith or Jeff Garcia? Oh, Alex Smith.

00:41:18.460 --> 00:41:21.400
Alex Smith. He's the one who just destroyed his

00:41:21.400 --> 00:41:24.019
leg. Yeah, he got hurt. He almost died. And then

00:41:24.019 --> 00:41:26.420
he went to the Chiefs and didn't play for years

00:41:26.420 --> 00:41:28.139
and years and years and then finally got his

00:41:28.139 --> 00:41:29.519
chance to play again. Do you ever see what his

00:41:29.519 --> 00:41:32.719
leg looks like? No. Oh, like now? Yeah, it's

00:41:32.719 --> 00:41:36.090
bad. Yeah. Well, he played on it. I mean, he

00:41:36.090 --> 00:41:38.630
played on it. It looked like Val Kilmer's voice

00:41:38.630 --> 00:41:41.489
box. Yeah, look at Alex Smith's leg. Are we really

00:41:41.489 --> 00:41:43.849
going to look at a picture of his nasty -ass

00:41:43.849 --> 00:41:46.090
leg? I mean, look at that. That's not a very

00:41:46.090 --> 00:41:48.170
good one. Get the one next to it. Good Lord.

00:41:48.389 --> 00:41:51.369
I don't want to see that. What the? Yeah, I mean,

00:41:51.389 --> 00:41:53.449
that's what it looks like. That's six years after.

00:41:53.610 --> 00:41:55.710
Yeah, he had flesh -eating disease, a whole nine

00:41:55.710 --> 00:41:59.130
-yard, man. Oh, my God. That looks awful. Yeah.

00:41:59.269 --> 00:42:01.130
You think he's going to feel that? He need to

00:42:01.130 --> 00:42:04.170
have a better plastic surgeon. Yeah, well, I

00:42:04.170 --> 00:42:05.690
mean. They took that from his left cheek. That

00:42:05.690 --> 00:42:10.250
flesh -eating disease. What? Did they really?

00:42:10.389 --> 00:42:11.389
I have no idea where they took the skin from.

00:42:11.389 --> 00:42:12.730
Oh, I'm sorry. I never know when you're telling

00:42:12.730 --> 00:42:15.769
the truth. No, because he's not. He never tells

00:42:15.769 --> 00:42:19.309
the truth. No. I think he spanked your lip. Yeah,

00:42:19.349 --> 00:42:22.289
he was. He was smacking your shin. He was in

00:42:22.289 --> 00:42:25.230
a bad shape. Ow, ow. Yes, he was in real bad,

00:42:25.309 --> 00:42:28.050
bad shape for quite a while. Dude, that was a

00:42:28.050 --> 00:42:33.579
horrible story. I mean, you have the, God bless

00:42:33.579 --> 00:42:38.079
it, the Washington Redskins, Joe Theismann. That

00:42:38.079 --> 00:42:39.260
is his career right there. There's a picture

00:42:39.260 --> 00:42:42.039
of him laying on the field with his legs all.

00:42:42.820 --> 00:42:44.880
Half of it was laying on the ground. Yeah. I

00:42:44.880 --> 00:42:46.119
don't know how people come back from that. His

00:42:46.119 --> 00:42:49.820
legs all over the place. God, the humanity. Yeah.

00:42:49.900 --> 00:42:52.800
Yeah, that's awful. Yeah, it was bad. Yeah, yep,

00:42:52.820 --> 00:42:55.739
yep, yep. Well, so, you know, it did. Who was

00:42:55.739 --> 00:42:58.599
the big winner for the draft, do you think? I

00:42:58.599 --> 00:43:01.579
really don't know. Yeah, I don't know either.

00:43:01.679 --> 00:43:03.440
That's a good question. Yeah, I didn't do follow

00:43:03.440 --> 00:43:06.619
-ups. I looked at the grades for Cowboys and

00:43:06.619 --> 00:43:10.900
the Bengals, but I didn't look at who they thought

00:43:10.900 --> 00:43:14.099
was the big winner. I really don't know. I think

00:43:14.099 --> 00:43:16.199
there were, like every other draft, there were

00:43:16.199 --> 00:43:18.099
people that they felt came out ahead, and there

00:43:18.099 --> 00:43:19.960
were some people that, like, what were they thinking?

00:43:20.019 --> 00:43:22.949
Well, again... You don't know. Well, AI Overview

00:43:22.949 --> 00:43:24.949
says the Tennessee Tysons are often cited as

00:43:24.949 --> 00:43:28.570
the draft winner in the 2025 NFL draft. The Titans?

00:43:28.710 --> 00:43:31.409
The Tennessee Titans often cited as the draft

00:43:31.409 --> 00:43:33.650
winner. I mean, what else would you think? I

00:43:33.650 --> 00:43:35.530
mean, come on. The Titans have a quality organization

00:43:35.530 --> 00:43:38.070
and great fans. So here you go. Do you want to

00:43:38.070 --> 00:43:39.829
win the draft or do you want to win football

00:43:39.829 --> 00:43:42.170
games? Oh, here we go. Here we go. I want to

00:43:42.170 --> 00:43:44.889
win the draft because that's the only thing we

00:43:44.889 --> 00:43:45.590
are winning right now. Are you going to carry

00:43:45.590 --> 00:43:48.690
that trophy around? We were 3 -14, so yeah, I'd

00:43:48.690 --> 00:43:51.280
take the draft. That's why you had 12. Fucking

00:43:51.280 --> 00:43:53.900
picks. Other teams that received positive reviews

00:43:53.900 --> 00:43:56.559
included the Patriots and the Vegas Raiders.

00:43:56.760 --> 00:43:59.039
Looks like the Colts did pretty good, too. Keep

00:43:59.039 --> 00:44:01.559
in mind also that the Titans are like, there's

00:44:01.559 --> 00:44:04.579
so much new about them. A new general manager.

00:44:04.760 --> 00:44:06.880
The coach is pretty much new. His coaching staff

00:44:06.880 --> 00:44:09.179
is pretty much new. I mean, they got rid of all

00:44:09.179 --> 00:44:11.199
these veterans, right? They got rid of D -Hop

00:44:11.199 --> 00:44:13.460
and they got rid of, you know, all these people.

00:44:13.820 --> 00:44:16.800
And so they're in total rebuilding mode. So for

00:44:16.800 --> 00:44:19.079
me to hear that they... feel like they won the

00:44:19.079 --> 00:44:20.820
draft. I mean, that's how you build a team again,

00:44:20.940 --> 00:44:23.519
right? Well, I mean, this isn't how they feel

00:44:23.519 --> 00:44:25.880
about it. This is how the general population...

00:44:25.880 --> 00:44:27.519
Right. No, that's what I mean. I mean, that's

00:44:27.519 --> 00:44:29.880
encouraging because that means in three years,

00:44:29.980 --> 00:44:33.559
I don't know, we might be a real contender, you

00:44:33.559 --> 00:44:36.340
know? You know, it's amazing. I'm wondering if

00:44:36.340 --> 00:44:42.559
we have the technology today as we... If we had

00:44:42.559 --> 00:44:45.659
the technology today, back then, when Alex Smith

00:44:45.659 --> 00:44:49.219
was working on his legs, I wonder if it would

00:44:49.219 --> 00:44:51.960
have been different. Nowadays, they've got these

00:44:51.960 --> 00:44:55.119
robots that are starting to conduct surgery on

00:44:55.119 --> 00:44:58.519
people. Not today, but they're about to, within

00:44:58.519 --> 00:45:00.710
a year. They're anticipating within a year. Well,

00:45:00.750 --> 00:45:03.469
if that injury had happened now, they on the

00:45:03.469 --> 00:45:05.150
field would have just cut the leg off, put a

00:45:05.150 --> 00:45:06.849
metal one on, and he would have played. He would

00:45:06.849 --> 00:45:08.469
have just gotten up back up. Yeah, he would have

00:45:08.469 --> 00:45:10.250
played probably a couple plays later. Give him

00:45:10.250 --> 00:45:13.429
a toward all shot. Yeah. Good to go. Yes, yes.

00:45:13.670 --> 00:45:17.650
Well, I don't know. How would you feel being

00:45:17.650 --> 00:45:19.610
one of those people going in, knowing it's a

00:45:19.610 --> 00:45:21.849
new technology in five years, going, yeah, you're

00:45:21.849 --> 00:45:24.809
going to have open heart. This is how 2000 over

00:45:24.809 --> 00:45:27.349
here is going to perform it. Meaning completely.

00:45:28.380 --> 00:45:31.420
Correct. 100 % AI driven. That's what Elon is

00:45:31.420 --> 00:45:33.780
driving. It's not a human running the control.

00:45:33.880 --> 00:45:35.079
I believe that's what Elon says. They used to

00:45:35.079 --> 00:45:37.119
crack the ribs and spread the shit open. Now

00:45:37.119 --> 00:45:40.099
they go through your wrist. Things are different

00:45:40.099 --> 00:45:43.460
now. No, they don't. When you have open heart

00:45:43.460 --> 00:45:46.760
surgery. I'm saying that to put a stint in. Oh,

00:45:46.780 --> 00:45:49.400
a stint. Correct. It's not quite the same. They've

00:45:49.400 --> 00:45:52.159
got different methods now. Before to do the stint

00:45:52.159 --> 00:45:53.980
stuff, they had to crack the open. Of course,

00:45:53.980 --> 00:45:55.840
yes. Cut the entire rib cage open. I thought

00:45:55.840 --> 00:45:57.969
you meant like. No, I mean, yeah. If you have

00:45:57.969 --> 00:46:00.210
to have open heart surgery, yes. But, I mean,

00:46:00.269 --> 00:46:03.170
with the normal practices they do nowadays, it

00:46:03.170 --> 00:46:05.090
doesn't require that. Well, my dad had a couple

00:46:05.090 --> 00:46:08.269
of those. He had a stent put in, and they went

00:46:08.269 --> 00:46:13.750
in through the groin on that one. Like through

00:46:13.750 --> 00:46:16.949
the pee -pee hole? No, side of the leg. No, side

00:46:16.949 --> 00:46:20.719
of the leg. I know. I'm just being a smart ass.

00:46:20.719 --> 00:46:23.219
Straight up the urethra. Yeah, right up the urethra.

00:46:23.460 --> 00:46:25.900
Just busted through the bladder. And they put

00:46:25.900 --> 00:46:29.039
a balloon in there. On account of his narrow

00:46:29.039 --> 00:46:32.059
urethra. And then the second one, they went in

00:46:32.059 --> 00:46:36.179
through the arm. That wasn't a stint, though.

00:46:36.219 --> 00:46:39.340
That was trying to fix one of his... The flappers.

00:46:39.940 --> 00:46:42.340
It's amazing, though. Yeah. So, I mean, clearly,

00:46:42.679 --> 00:46:45.289
we're obviously having just... technological

00:46:45.289 --> 00:46:49.289
advances by themselves. But to go to a point

00:46:49.289 --> 00:46:52.349
where we're literally having autonomous AI robots

00:46:52.349 --> 00:46:56.429
performing the surgery, how close are we to that?

00:46:56.550 --> 00:46:59.190
I mean, why do we think? I know the Neuralink.

00:46:59.190 --> 00:47:03.070
Well, we already have robotic appendages that

00:47:03.070 --> 00:47:05.309
are going in and currently doing the operations.

00:47:05.570 --> 00:47:09.150
Brain surgery. We are mechanically operating

00:47:09.150 --> 00:47:12.710
the tools that are doing it. Yes. But it's still

00:47:12.710 --> 00:47:17.579
doing it. And are we doing it with like a joystick?

00:47:17.920 --> 00:47:21.199
It's an Xbox controller. Seriously, it's something

00:47:21.199 --> 00:47:24.760
like that. Yeah, I mean, it's done in such a

00:47:24.760 --> 00:47:29.440
perfect way. It's so slow and meticulous, and

00:47:29.440 --> 00:47:31.760
it's proven. And I've seen it. It almost looks

00:47:31.760 --> 00:47:34.519
like spider legs because you'll see these things

00:47:34.519 --> 00:47:37.360
going in, all these different arms. Oh, my God.

00:47:37.599 --> 00:47:39.800
And they're being controlled. How creepy. And

00:47:39.800 --> 00:47:42.670
they're, you know, little. Pinchers and slicers

00:47:42.670 --> 00:47:45.429
and scissors and shit like that? I would hope

00:47:45.429 --> 00:47:48.269
that before they move to fully autonomous, that

00:47:48.269 --> 00:47:51.530
the machine's going to do its thing, and I would

00:47:51.530 --> 00:47:53.789
hope that there's a monitor that says, this is

00:47:53.789 --> 00:47:55.889
what the machine's going to do next. And the

00:47:55.889 --> 00:47:58.309
guy's like, yep, that's exactly what I would

00:47:58.309 --> 00:48:01.769
do. Then it just goes... And you're in half.

00:48:02.610 --> 00:48:04.849
It wasn't supposed to do that. We were just hacked.

00:48:06.309 --> 00:48:11.550
I mean, what safeguards are out there? Wow. Just

00:48:11.550 --> 00:48:15.309
like the Kia. Yes. The Kia automobiles. Uh -oh.

00:48:15.329 --> 00:48:16.909
Somebody just hacked into the machine. No, but

00:48:16.909 --> 00:48:19.429
seriously, I would hope that there's like a,

00:48:19.530 --> 00:48:22.400
you know. The doctor is saying... What if the

00:48:22.400 --> 00:48:25.039
AI all of a sudden becomes sentient? Mr. Producer

00:48:25.039 --> 00:48:29.500
put on the TV right now, there's an egg where

00:48:29.500 --> 00:48:33.619
the robotic appendages are actually peeling the

00:48:33.619 --> 00:48:36.860
egg off, leaving the membrane. I've seen this.

00:48:37.179 --> 00:48:42.420
What? That is pretty badass to be able to...

00:48:42.420 --> 00:48:45.260
Okay, hold on. I feel like I'm watching a sci

00:48:45.260 --> 00:48:48.780
-fi, freaky, weird show. Yeah, so they peeled

00:48:48.780 --> 00:48:51.820
off the shell. exposed the membrane, and now

00:48:51.820 --> 00:48:54.679
they're stitching the membrane, putting in sutures.

00:48:55.840 --> 00:49:00.179
It is peeling. It completely, perfectly peeled

00:49:00.179 --> 00:49:02.619
the egg. Yeah. In tiny little pieces. And they're

00:49:02.619 --> 00:49:05.760
bunked. I mean, it's pretty cool. And it's doing

00:49:05.760 --> 00:49:09.480
a stitch. So technology is pretty cool. It does

00:49:09.480 --> 00:49:11.860
worry a little bit about being hacked. And I

00:49:11.860 --> 00:49:15.179
will also tell you, like, you know how we just.

00:49:15.280 --> 00:49:16.800
Oh, my God. Yeah, look at that thing. That's

00:49:16.800 --> 00:49:18.480
what I'm talking about. Okay, hold on. Here's

00:49:18.480 --> 00:49:22.619
a full body. demonstration. It's a dummy of course.

00:49:22.659 --> 00:49:24.920
There's a dummy on there and it's got like a

00:49:24.920 --> 00:49:28.679
gazillion holes or portals around his abdomen

00:49:28.679 --> 00:49:32.380
where this rod will go in and perform different

00:49:32.380 --> 00:49:37.280
things. On those rods Like I said, or the scissors

00:49:37.280 --> 00:49:40.760
or the clamps or all the shit they need. All

00:49:40.760 --> 00:49:42.380
right, so read that. It said the robot got a

00:49:42.380 --> 00:49:46.719
98 .5 success rate way above the 85 % goal, meaning

00:49:46.719 --> 00:49:48.699
it didn't just pass the test. It basically set

00:49:48.699 --> 00:49:52.760
the curve. Out of 137 surgeries, only two needed

00:49:52.760 --> 00:49:55.739
to switch back to regular surgery, one because

00:49:55.739 --> 00:49:58.460
of a robot glitch and one because of a tricky

00:49:58.460 --> 00:50:02.880
patient case. A robot glitch. Glitch. Does it

00:50:02.880 --> 00:50:05.920
say how severe that was, though? Oh, it removed

00:50:05.920 --> 00:50:08.599
its liver. Yeah, and these are robot -assisted

00:50:08.599 --> 00:50:11.039
surgeries right now. It's not fully robotic.

00:50:11.559 --> 00:50:13.000
It accidentally pulled its liver through the

00:50:13.000 --> 00:50:15.719
hole. They have the audio of the glitch, and

00:50:15.719 --> 00:50:19.219
the computer... Hold on, let me play it right

00:50:19.219 --> 00:50:24.940
now. Kale -human. Kale -human. Kale -human. Right.

00:50:25.679 --> 00:50:28.280
Matthew Broderick on the other end, thermonuclear

00:50:28.280 --> 00:50:32.309
destruction. He broke into it. There you go.

00:50:33.449 --> 00:50:36.969
Operation. Yes. That was a great board game.

00:50:37.070 --> 00:50:39.050
It was, but I was so frustrated because if you're

00:50:39.050 --> 00:50:40.809
on sugar and you have the sugar high and your

00:50:40.809 --> 00:50:42.969
hands are shaking, it's like, fuck. Which all

00:50:42.969 --> 00:50:45.710
the kids had back in the 70s, 80s. Thanks, Obama,

00:50:46.030 --> 00:50:49.389
from the pyramid being upside down. Yes. Really?

00:50:49.429 --> 00:50:52.389
It's ridiculous. Come on. The Obamas? Well, whatever.

00:50:52.610 --> 00:50:54.889
I mean, whatever. Of course, it's not their fault,

00:50:54.969 --> 00:50:56.929
but I'm just saying. You went from the Operation

00:50:56.929 --> 00:50:59.869
Board Game to fuck Obama. I didn't say fuck Obama.

00:51:00.050 --> 00:51:03.289
I said thanks. Wow. It wasn't a thanks to Obama.

00:51:03.409 --> 00:51:06.050
It's a thanks to the system just kind of pancaking

00:51:06.050 --> 00:51:08.849
us, you know? Oh, Jesus, Jeff. Just slowing the

00:51:08.849 --> 00:51:10.469
shit all over the place. I am. I was getting

00:51:10.469 --> 00:51:12.340
excited. Well, you just talked about. Your shaky

00:51:12.340 --> 00:51:14.019
hands. Yeah. Can I have that pip -a -towel over

00:51:14.019 --> 00:51:15.860
there, please? Yeah, you said that you... I think

00:51:15.860 --> 00:51:16.880
you're not our sergeant. Well, do you, like,

00:51:16.880 --> 00:51:18.139
rub it on your asshole or something? You said

00:51:18.139 --> 00:51:20.280
that you sucked at operation, and now you're...

00:51:20.280 --> 00:51:22.559
I know. So for those folks, Jeff lifted up his

00:51:22.559 --> 00:51:24.420
glass, and he was insinuating, hey, guys, let's

00:51:24.420 --> 00:51:26.539
talk about our bourbon. And he spun it, and it

00:51:26.539 --> 00:51:28.380
gyrated all over the place. It did. It was air

00:51:28.380 --> 00:51:30.159
-raped. We're going to jump on this real quick,

00:51:30.199 --> 00:51:31.860
but before that, while we're on the technology

00:51:31.860 --> 00:51:34.119
thing, I wanted to share that. I got a new car,

00:51:34.239 --> 00:51:36.719
and I was going over some of the settings, and

00:51:36.719 --> 00:51:39.150
in the settings... They had robotic surgery?

00:51:39.610 --> 00:51:43.170
There are a bunch of... Make it stop. Make it

00:51:43.170 --> 00:51:44.869
stop. It's in my butt. It's going in my butt

00:51:44.869 --> 00:51:48.570
again. That button's going... Turn it off. Wait,

00:51:48.610 --> 00:51:50.769
no, stop. Don't turn it off. But what I was getting

00:51:50.769 --> 00:51:56.510
at is that the car is online. Yes. Yes. And it's

00:51:56.510 --> 00:52:00.909
hackable. It's online, so information is leaving

00:52:00.909 --> 00:52:05.210
my car. I don't want that. How do I take over

00:52:05.210 --> 00:52:07.809
that? When you signed your agreement, you signed

00:52:07.809 --> 00:52:11.409
all that. You did. I think I did the same thing

00:52:11.409 --> 00:52:15.449
for my car. Now that I own the car, can't I take

00:52:15.449 --> 00:52:19.820
that car and reprogram it? Yes. It's my car.

00:52:20.059 --> 00:52:23.280
$5 ,000. Okay, so $5 ,000, who do you talk to?

00:52:23.460 --> 00:52:25.159
I'm just saying. There are people that can program

00:52:25.159 --> 00:52:26.380
it. Yeah, I'm sure there's somebody out there

00:52:26.380 --> 00:52:27.719
that can do that. Absolutely. I don't know if

00:52:27.719 --> 00:52:29.880
it's possible or not. I mean, it's just like.

00:52:29.940 --> 00:52:31.480
Everything's possible. You can find somebody

00:52:31.480 --> 00:52:32.980
to program it. No, I know, but will it affect

00:52:32.980 --> 00:52:36.860
the performance of the car, though? I don't know.

00:52:36.880 --> 00:52:38.559
It could. I don't know. I don't know the answer

00:52:38.559 --> 00:52:43.519
to that. It's pretty intrusive. We should ask

00:52:43.519 --> 00:52:47.239
AI. AI would tell us if we can. Circumvent. Yeah,

00:52:47.300 --> 00:52:49.619
we talked about that a while back where when

00:52:49.619 --> 00:52:52.039
you sign this stuff, you're basically agreeing

00:52:52.039 --> 00:52:55.800
to all this monitoring in the car. Yeah. Because

00:52:55.800 --> 00:52:59.619
you have these chips that this company monitors

00:52:59.619 --> 00:53:02.820
and they sell to insurance companies. Insane.

00:53:02.980 --> 00:53:05.179
You know, so all the new cars, all the new cars

00:53:05.179 --> 00:53:06.400
will have that. I don't know how far back that

00:53:06.400 --> 00:53:08.320
goes. Yeah, I want that stuff off. I mean, I

00:53:08.320 --> 00:53:10.340
don't want it. There's some things on there because

00:53:10.340 --> 00:53:12.719
I was driving and it was like crash, crash. I'm

00:53:12.719 --> 00:53:14.760
like, there was nothing in front of me. What

00:53:14.760 --> 00:53:17.820
the fuck is your problem? I'm not crashing. I

00:53:17.820 --> 00:53:19.860
was changing lanes. Well, that's your radar.

00:53:20.800 --> 00:53:23.320
You can turn that off, though. You can turn your

00:53:23.320 --> 00:53:26.179
radar off. The radar was off. The radar? You

00:53:26.179 --> 00:53:27.860
can turn it off? Yeah, well, there's a sensor

00:53:27.860 --> 00:53:30.340
that tells you how far or close you are to a

00:53:30.340 --> 00:53:33.000
car, and you can set your cruise control accordingly.

00:53:33.559 --> 00:53:36.619
It's called adaptive cruise control. Yes, but

00:53:36.619 --> 00:53:40.539
that wasn't effective. The whole point is I would

00:53:40.539 --> 00:53:44.800
love to explore an opportunity to have a third

00:53:44.800 --> 00:53:47.559
-party program, a third -party app jump in there

00:53:47.559 --> 00:53:51.500
and just take over because it's nonsense. I don't

00:53:51.500 --> 00:53:53.179
know what the possibilities are. Yeah, it's like

00:53:53.179 --> 00:53:55.400
an invasion of privacy, right? I mean, I get

00:53:55.400 --> 00:53:57.300
it. And it's collecting data on what you're doing.

00:53:57.400 --> 00:54:00.099
And it's like giving you a rating. Sean, you

00:54:00.099 --> 00:54:02.880
are a shitty driver. Your rating is an F. It

00:54:02.880 --> 00:54:05.400
does know who because everyone is hooking their

00:54:05.400 --> 00:54:07.590
phones up when they're driving. So you're Bluetooth

00:54:07.590 --> 00:54:10.250
to it, so they know. Your Apple Play and your

00:54:10.250 --> 00:54:11.710
Android Play and all that shit. Yeah, it's all

00:54:11.710 --> 00:54:13.269
on there. They know who's driving. They know

00:54:13.269 --> 00:54:14.769
who's connected. They're like, oh, well, this

00:54:14.769 --> 00:54:17.469
guy doesn't watch Netflix the entire time. They

00:54:17.469 --> 00:54:19.130
have all this shit on your phone. They just scraped

00:54:19.130 --> 00:54:21.190
it off. And there's sensors in the seat. They

00:54:21.190 --> 00:54:22.949
know exactly what your heart rate is, what your

00:54:22.949 --> 00:54:25.389
pulse is, what your cholesterol is, what your

00:54:25.389 --> 00:54:28.929
sperm count is. Yes, wow. It knows everything

00:54:28.929 --> 00:54:31.570
about you. I'm waiting for cars to have mandatory

00:54:31.570 --> 00:54:35.239
alcohol breathalyzers built in. No shit. You

00:54:35.239 --> 00:54:39.039
know? I'm not against it. So, like, you lean,

00:54:39.199 --> 00:54:41.500
your skin leans against the headrest? Well, it

00:54:41.500 --> 00:54:43.860
just smells the atmosphere. Yeah, you're drunk.

00:54:43.860 --> 00:54:45.599
No, I'm just, I don't think it's necessarily

00:54:45.599 --> 00:54:49.420
a bad thing. I think that, you know, that is

00:54:49.420 --> 00:54:51.599
one thing I would stand behind. I mean, because,

00:54:51.739 --> 00:54:54.699
you know, there are some bad decisions that we

00:54:54.699 --> 00:54:58.300
have all made in the past. And so, to me, it's

00:54:58.300 --> 00:55:02.690
just like, if it were a case of... live or die,

00:55:02.949 --> 00:55:05.349
of course, you should be able to override that.

00:55:05.590 --> 00:55:09.510
But at the same time, you have to wear the scarlet

00:55:09.510 --> 00:55:12.349
letter. If you're coming from the revel or whatever,

00:55:12.590 --> 00:55:16.210
and you're coming out, you're like, fuck! Right.

00:55:16.349 --> 00:55:18.190
And then you've got to walk home. Well, you call

00:55:18.190 --> 00:55:20.150
an Uber at that point. That's probably a better

00:55:20.150 --> 00:55:22.769
option. That'd still be frustrating, because

00:55:22.769 --> 00:55:24.269
when you're in that mode, you're just like, I

00:55:24.269 --> 00:55:27.250
can do it. But if it measures the ethanol kind

00:55:27.250 --> 00:55:29.809
of aroma or smell in the air, how would this

00:55:29.809 --> 00:55:39.010
bourbon do? We have 13 minutes. Alright, let's

00:55:39.010 --> 00:55:43.269
jump into this. Alright, so we, as usual, Jeff

00:55:43.269 --> 00:55:46.429
went to the cabinet and pulled out the advent

00:55:46.429 --> 00:55:49.230
thing and stuck it on the table and then he's

00:55:49.230 --> 00:55:50.889
kind of like, I did my part. And then someone

00:55:50.889 --> 00:55:53.429
else has to go and peruse and pick out the other

00:55:53.429 --> 00:55:56.820
one. So I picked out this whistle pig. And it's

00:55:56.820 --> 00:56:01.079
the summer house, summer stock or farm stock

00:56:01.079 --> 00:56:04.099
bourbon. It's the farm stock beyond bonded bourbon

00:56:04.099 --> 00:56:08.199
whiskey. It's a, I believe a two years because

00:56:08.199 --> 00:56:10.719
it's a straight bourbon. Well, it's minimum of

00:56:10.719 --> 00:56:13.679
two years. Yeah. I don't think it's a whole.

00:56:13.699 --> 00:56:15.260
Actually, it says age for a minimum of four because

00:56:15.260 --> 00:56:16.639
it's bonded, right? Oh, that's right. Bottle

00:56:16.639 --> 00:56:18.320
and bond. It is bottle and bond. So it is four

00:56:18.320 --> 00:56:22.989
years. All right, so this one, well, I mean,

00:56:23.010 --> 00:56:25.130
let's take a taste. Listen to the nose. Acetone.

00:56:26.050 --> 00:56:28.809
Acetone with lemon. This review is a little brutal.

00:56:29.389 --> 00:56:31.429
First greets the nostrils. I can really smell

00:56:31.429 --> 00:56:33.570
the grain, but it mostly smells sweet like cinnamon

00:56:33.570 --> 00:56:36.489
toast crunch. I got to be honest, it's not a

00:56:36.489 --> 00:56:40.849
good nose. No, the nose is. It's not a good nose.

00:56:40.909 --> 00:56:43.989
Well, wow, palate. It burns at first like nail

00:56:43.989 --> 00:56:47.130
polish remover. Well, who's tasting nail polish

00:56:47.130 --> 00:56:50.380
remover? Well, this guy, apparently. This guy's

00:56:50.380 --> 00:56:54.559
a crackhead. It's not great. Yeah, I'm not a

00:56:54.559 --> 00:56:57.980
huge fan of this one. And I'll be honest, we

00:56:57.980 --> 00:57:00.260
haven't been fans of Whistlepig before. We have

00:57:00.260 --> 00:57:03.320
not. And it's not that, I mean, we really haven't.

00:57:03.340 --> 00:57:06.159
You know, and it's like, because we've got some,

00:57:06.179 --> 00:57:08.400
I mean, we've bought out some nice ones, and

00:57:08.400 --> 00:57:10.519
we're thinking, eh, it's like, eh. I don't get

00:57:10.519 --> 00:57:12.619
it. And it's expensive for what you get. It's

00:57:12.619 --> 00:57:16.059
very expensive. It's very strange. I'm not sure

00:57:16.059 --> 00:57:18.539
why it misses the mark here, but. Okay, so go

00:57:18.539 --> 00:57:21.119
back to the review. I taste a lot of grass. I

00:57:21.119 --> 00:57:24.440
made the note of grass. It's very corn. How much

00:57:24.440 --> 00:57:26.360
of it is sweet? There's sweet on there. So I

00:57:26.360 --> 00:57:28.300
agree, Chuck. This is kind of a harsh review.

00:57:28.500 --> 00:57:31.420
So on the palate, it burns like nail polish.

00:57:31.940 --> 00:57:34.739
You said pass that lemon and orange peel bring

00:57:34.739 --> 00:57:37.320
the flavor. It has a mellow sweetness compared

00:57:37.320 --> 00:57:40.599
to other bourbons. I agree with that. But it

00:57:40.599 --> 00:57:43.780
tastes like Damara or brown sugar. Okay, which

00:57:43.780 --> 00:57:46.039
is not a bad thing. That's not a bad thing. Brown

00:57:46.039 --> 00:57:48.699
sugar is a good taste. What is that stuff you

00:57:48.699 --> 00:57:51.440
brought to the podcast, those little squares

00:57:51.440 --> 00:57:55.420
that were... Durian? Yeah, it's got a durian

00:57:55.420 --> 00:57:59.019
kind of aftertaste. That's not a flattering review

00:57:59.019 --> 00:58:01.579
there. But you know what? It's kind of addicting.

00:58:03.179 --> 00:58:07.079
Durian was wholly unique into itself. This, I

00:58:07.079 --> 00:58:10.039
pick up grass and a lot of tobacco. That's about

00:58:10.039 --> 00:58:11.860
all I get. It's sweetness. That's about all I

00:58:11.860 --> 00:58:13.699
get out of it. I tell you what, when you let

00:58:13.699 --> 00:58:16.739
it... When you savor it, let it run over the

00:58:16.739 --> 00:58:20.039
tongue for an extended period, it brings no richness

00:58:20.039 --> 00:58:22.880
at all. Right. It is kind of thin for the proof.

00:58:23.059 --> 00:58:24.960
It's very thin. I told my wife that as well.

00:58:24.980 --> 00:58:28.219
I was like, it's a pretty thin bourbon. It's

00:58:28.219 --> 00:58:30.400
got no legs. It's strange. Actually, it does

00:58:30.400 --> 00:58:32.900
have legs. Surprisingly. She wasn't a huge fan

00:58:32.900 --> 00:58:37.039
of this. Surprisingly. She's like, the front

00:58:37.039 --> 00:58:39.619
end is better than the palate or the finish.

00:58:40.199 --> 00:58:42.500
Or vice versa. I can't remember. It's interesting.

00:58:43.980 --> 00:58:49.099
So much goes into the mash bill and the distilling

00:58:49.099 --> 00:58:51.139
process and the hearts and the tails and all

00:58:51.139 --> 00:58:54.059
this kind of stuff. How does one miss the mark

00:58:54.059 --> 00:58:58.280
so dramatically compared to another one? I think

00:58:58.280 --> 00:59:00.400
a lot of times these guys just write on the coattails

00:59:00.400 --> 00:59:02.739
of their name. You think so? And they just slap

00:59:02.739 --> 00:59:04.800
a label on it, kick out the fucking door. Hey,

00:59:04.800 --> 00:59:07.940
we got 5 ,000 barrels. Let's sell some shit.

00:59:08.159 --> 00:59:13.769
So this is 51 % corn and 49 % rye. What was the

00:59:13.769 --> 00:59:17.369
percentage of rye? 49. Oh, shit. Okay. Yeah.

00:59:17.389 --> 00:59:21.230
So it's high rye. 51 corn, 49 rye. So this is

00:59:21.230 --> 00:59:25.389
an extreme rye. That is a rye? No, it's a bourbon.

00:59:25.469 --> 00:59:28.090
It's a bourbon. It's a high rye bourbon. It's

00:59:28.090 --> 00:59:31.409
an extremely high profile rye. Because even 20

00:59:31.409 --> 00:59:33.969
% they'll say is a high profile rye. This is

00:59:33.969 --> 00:59:36.889
an extremely high profile rye. So maybe that

00:59:36.889 --> 00:59:39.449
factors into it. It's got to, right? Again, I

00:59:39.449 --> 00:59:46.309
think it's thin. 400? It is really weird. I don't

00:59:46.309 --> 00:59:48.230
know. The sweetness is okay, but the rest of

00:59:48.230 --> 00:59:51.090
it I could do without. Yeah, me too. Cigar box.

00:59:51.710 --> 00:59:54.190
This is going to be a pretty harsh rating for

00:59:54.190 --> 00:59:59.809
me. Barrel says char 3. Char 3. It's not very

00:59:59.809 --> 01:00:02.730
dark for four years either, I don't think. Let's

01:00:02.730 --> 01:00:08.420
rate it. I'm going to give this a 5 .5. Five

01:00:08.420 --> 01:00:10.139
and a half. I was going to go even lower than

01:00:10.139 --> 01:00:12.539
that. I was going to say four nine. Do it. Yeah.

01:00:12.639 --> 01:00:15.940
You need to. It puts me in the four range, which

01:00:15.940 --> 01:00:18.980
I've never done before. Yeah. I got Eagle Rare

01:00:18.980 --> 01:00:23.940
at three eight, I think. I don't think so. I

01:00:23.940 --> 01:00:27.199
did. I rated it three eight. Hold on. You rated

01:00:27.199 --> 01:00:29.719
Eagle Rare at a three what? I did. I think a

01:00:29.719 --> 01:00:32.539
three eight, three nine. I wasn't happy with

01:00:32.539 --> 01:00:34.699
it. I don't remember that. I don't remember that

01:00:34.699 --> 01:00:38.039
either. I don't either. Was that when you woke

01:00:38.039 --> 01:00:41.500
up from your coma? No. But I did wake up last

01:00:41.500 --> 01:00:43.980
night with a strange dream. So weird. Talk about

01:00:43.980 --> 01:00:48.019
that later. Do we have to? Was it wet? No, no.

01:00:48.119 --> 01:00:50.599
It had to do with setting a bomb up near the

01:00:50.599 --> 01:00:53.019
base of a dam going to flood this valley. It

01:00:53.019 --> 01:00:57.230
was crazy. Weird. So you're a terrorist. No.

01:00:57.449 --> 01:00:59.389
Well, I guess essentially it was for the people

01:00:59.389 --> 01:01:00.230
that wanted to live there. Did you want the insurance

01:01:00.230 --> 01:01:01.969
claim? Is that what you're going for? I had nothing

01:01:01.969 --> 01:01:03.889
to do with that. Did you rate this or not? Did

01:01:03.889 --> 01:01:05.670
you rate it? No, I was about to. I was going

01:01:05.670 --> 01:01:09.590
to say 4 .5. There you go. 4 .5 or 4 .9. 5 .5?

01:01:09.730 --> 01:01:13.030
5 .5. Okay. Just because of the sweetness. The

01:01:13.030 --> 01:01:15.449
Whistlepig Farmstock Rye Bottle to Bomb Crop

01:01:15.449 --> 01:01:19.110
No. 3 presents a nose of sweet and aromatic notes

01:01:19.110 --> 01:01:22.090
with vanilla, roasted chestnuts, hints of cigar

01:01:22.090 --> 01:01:25.400
box, whatever. I'm not getting the vanilla. Yeah.

01:01:25.420 --> 01:01:26.960
Oh, no vanilla. They're not getting the vanilla

01:01:26.960 --> 01:01:29.360
at all. On the palate, it's supposed to say it

01:01:29.360 --> 01:01:33.500
offers oak toffee, baking spices. Is this a single

01:01:33.500 --> 01:01:35.280
barrel? It's not a single barrel, is it? Okay.

01:01:35.480 --> 01:01:36.820
I was going to say. It probably would have helped.

01:01:37.760 --> 01:01:42.219
It's followed by notes of creme brulee and rose

01:01:42.219 --> 01:01:45.480
petals. It is, in fact, a single barrel. It is.

01:01:45.559 --> 01:01:49.679
It is? Correct. No shit. Well, they need to pick

01:01:49.679 --> 01:01:52.860
another one, I guess. Because whatever this guy

01:01:52.860 --> 01:01:54.340
reviewed could be completely different than what

01:01:54.340 --> 01:01:56.739
we have. Harsh, right? It's got some sweetness,

01:01:56.860 --> 01:01:59.199
but, man, it doesn't last. I don't get it. It's

01:01:59.199 --> 01:02:02.099
all right. Look, I mean, if someone handed this

01:02:02.099 --> 01:02:03.880
to me at a party, I would drink it. It's mid.

01:02:04.079 --> 01:02:06.119
It's mid. You know, is it better than Novacek

01:02:06.119 --> 01:02:10.380
84? But it's $100, too. So think, you know. Okay.

01:02:10.639 --> 01:02:13.099
All right. I may have to reevaluate my. Yeah.

01:02:13.400 --> 01:02:15.300
That's going to make it plummet. $100 and 100

01:02:15.300 --> 01:02:19.460
proof. Are you serious? $100? No. Oh, shit. I'm

01:02:19.460 --> 01:02:21.980
below five at this point. Yeah, we need to have

01:02:21.980 --> 01:02:23.659
the price when we do our grades. That does matter.

01:02:23.780 --> 01:02:27.420
It matters. Yeah. This is not worth. Like I said,

01:02:27.500 --> 01:02:30.159
Whistlepig is expensive for what you get. I'm

01:02:30.159 --> 01:02:32.099
not impressed with Whistlepig yet. Me neither.

01:02:33.019 --> 01:02:36.420
I'm going to adjust mine down to a 4 .8. Good

01:02:36.420 --> 01:02:40.920
call. Based off of price. Because peer pressure.

01:02:41.139 --> 01:02:44.320
$100? No. No, not at all. $100? I'll tell you

01:02:44.320 --> 01:02:48.059
what. I took a lot in just now. I threw back

01:02:48.059 --> 01:02:51.670
whatever was left to my glass. And I did know

01:02:51.670 --> 01:02:55.349
with a lot in your mouth like that, it was sweet.

01:02:56.030 --> 01:02:58.869
Yeah. Taste a lot of the rose petals. That's

01:02:58.869 --> 01:03:00.769
the only endearing thing that I picked up on

01:03:00.769 --> 01:03:04.010
was the sweetness. So it was just bleh for me.

01:03:04.210 --> 01:03:06.510
All right. Well, not one of our favorites, but

01:03:06.510 --> 01:03:09.230
that's okay. Yeah. Again, if you're at a friend's

01:03:09.230 --> 01:03:10.869
house and he's like, hey, I've got some Whistle

01:03:10.869 --> 01:03:12.550
Pig. You want to share some with me? Well, you're

01:03:12.550 --> 01:03:15.710
going to say, yeah, I don't drink that. No. Exactly.

01:03:15.869 --> 01:03:18.150
You would not. If you listeners are interested

01:03:18.150 --> 01:03:20.369
in finding out exactly what we're talking about,

01:03:20.510 --> 01:03:23.510
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01:03:23.590 --> 01:03:26.210
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01:03:26.210 --> 01:03:29.170
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01:03:29.170 --> 01:03:32.349
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01:03:32.489 --> 01:03:36.650
And subscribe. Yeah. Mash that button. Now, is

01:03:36.650 --> 01:03:39.550
Whistlepig, I believe it's MGP. Does the bottle

01:03:39.550 --> 01:03:46.329
say distilled Indiana? Product of Vermont. Aged

01:03:46.329 --> 01:03:49.150
and bottled by Whistle Pig, Whistle Company,

01:03:49.489 --> 01:03:52.289
Shoreham, Vermont. You know what? So it's aged

01:03:52.289 --> 01:03:54.250
and bottled by Whistle Pig. So they don't distill

01:03:54.250 --> 01:03:57.170
their own stuff, I believe. I actually, now that

01:03:57.170 --> 01:03:59.849
you mention it, I had a friend that went to Vermont

01:03:59.849 --> 01:04:04.110
and visited this distillery in Vermont. So they

01:04:04.110 --> 01:04:06.349
do make their own stuff. They do. I don't know.

01:04:06.550 --> 01:04:08.289
Is that right? I don't know. I thought I heard

01:04:08.289 --> 01:04:10.369
that they did not. I'm not 100%. That's why.

01:04:10.809 --> 01:04:14.090
I think he went up there. He was up there, and

01:04:14.090 --> 01:04:16.989
they wanted to visit a distillery, and they went

01:04:16.989 --> 01:04:19.250
there. My wife wants to do, and this sounds like

01:04:19.250 --> 01:04:22.590
a good idea to me, they have the cheese trail,

01:04:22.769 --> 01:04:26.289
the Vermont cheese trail. Instead of the bourbon

01:04:26.289 --> 01:04:29.070
trail, there's a Vermont cheese trail. Nice.

01:04:29.670 --> 01:04:32.570
And just like they have a map, and you pull it

01:04:32.570 --> 01:04:36.449
up, and there's all these little cheese. How

01:04:36.449 --> 01:04:39.570
does Vermont cheese compare to Wisconsin cheese?

01:04:40.199 --> 01:04:43.159
Like a Vermont cheddar compared to a— Like who

01:04:43.159 --> 01:04:46.380
is known— Depends on the cows on what they're

01:04:46.380 --> 01:04:49.400
sourcing of food. I mean, the Vermont has a different

01:04:49.400 --> 01:04:53.079
style of grass. It may be rich in certain acids

01:04:53.079 --> 01:04:55.460
as opposed to— But who would be more respected,

01:04:55.639 --> 01:04:57.639
right? Like Kentucky's got a bourbon trail, right?

01:04:57.679 --> 01:05:00.440
Now Texas probably has a bourbon trail. But who

01:05:00.440 --> 01:05:02.639
is— I don't know. I don't know either. I don't

01:05:02.639 --> 01:05:04.679
know if cheese is really— Just to be clear to

01:05:04.679 --> 01:05:06.860
back up here, Whistlepig does not solely make

01:05:06.860 --> 01:05:10.130
its own juice. While they are an estate producer,

01:05:10.530 --> 01:05:12.869
meaning they grow their own rye, make some of

01:05:12.869 --> 01:05:15.570
their spirits on site, they also rely on outsourced

01:05:15.570 --> 01:05:18.690
sources, including distilleries like NGP from

01:05:18.690 --> 01:05:21.489
Indiana and Alberta Premium for the portion of

01:05:21.489 --> 01:05:23.650
their whiskeys. Alberta Premium. Is that like

01:05:23.650 --> 01:05:26.590
a Canadian whiskey? So a portion of their whiskeys.

01:05:26.590 --> 01:05:28.650
I didn't know that. So they distill some of their

01:05:28.650 --> 01:05:31.869
own stuff. They do. They do some. Some. Some.

01:05:31.989 --> 01:05:35.920
But we don't know which ones. It makes me kind

01:05:35.920 --> 01:05:38.320
of wonder. I mean, to slap such... This is what

01:05:38.320 --> 01:05:40.099
I'm talking about. They're slapping a heavy price

01:05:40.099 --> 01:05:42.559
tag on... They're riding on the coattails of

01:05:42.559 --> 01:05:43.860
just their name. And it's not even their own

01:05:43.860 --> 01:05:47.400
stuff. Come on. Come on. I want to drop my...

01:05:47.400 --> 01:05:51.360
Down lower. The guy who... Now we're in the twos,

01:05:51.360 --> 01:05:54.139
all three of us. Did a hell of a marketing job.

01:05:54.199 --> 01:05:57.039
Because people buy it. Hang on. So it says...

01:05:57.039 --> 01:05:58.920
It still is a Mortimer still, and it's saying

01:05:58.920 --> 01:06:03.260
that the Mortimer was installed in 2015. So,

01:06:03.260 --> 01:06:06.380
you know... What is a Mortimer still? Well, it's

01:06:06.380 --> 01:06:09.019
just the name of the still, like Fred or, you

01:06:09.019 --> 01:06:12.599
know. Oh, they named their still Mortimer. The

01:06:12.599 --> 01:06:14.719
Mortimer. They did. They sure did. That's cool.

01:06:15.280 --> 01:06:18.019
If we had a still. You cannot visit. This is

01:06:18.019 --> 01:06:20.480
not open to the public. Oh, look at that. So

01:06:20.480 --> 01:06:22.800
they lied. So maybe they went to a cheese farm

01:06:22.800 --> 01:06:26.179
and sampled a little cheese juice. That is interesting,

01:06:26.280 --> 01:06:30.059
though. I do love cheese. I do. You know, charcuterie,

01:06:30.139 --> 01:06:33.400
I could sit there. I mean, my kids love cheese

01:06:33.400 --> 01:06:36.579
as well. Tara will go to the stores and pick

01:06:36.579 --> 01:06:39.900
up small little chunks. Every special event we

01:06:39.900 --> 01:06:41.800
have, we always have an assortment of cheeses

01:06:41.800 --> 01:06:44.539
out. And I get so tickled when that happens.

01:06:45.099 --> 01:06:47.360
Puts out some meats and little cheeses. Pull

01:06:47.360 --> 01:06:51.860
up the map of the Vermont Cheese Trail. Because

01:06:51.860 --> 01:06:53.480
it's not a big state, right? You could probably

01:06:53.480 --> 01:06:56.059
go up and down it. I wonder if you get constipated.

01:06:56.079 --> 01:06:57.659
Does cheese make you constipated? I've heard

01:06:57.659 --> 01:06:59.440
it does, because my mom was like, you eat too

01:06:59.440 --> 01:07:01.800
much cheese, you're not going to poop. Maybe

01:07:01.800 --> 01:07:05.500
that's the block of government cheese. The government

01:07:05.500 --> 01:07:07.920
cheese? Is that real cheese, though? No, no,

01:07:07.960 --> 01:07:10.239
no. Powdered cheese is what Jeff grew up on.

01:07:10.519 --> 01:07:13.820
Yes, it was. Is there such a thing as powdered

01:07:13.820 --> 01:07:16.019
cheese? I guess it is. You put powdered cheese

01:07:16.019 --> 01:07:18.139
on your mac and cheese? Yes, that's what we have.

01:07:18.360 --> 01:07:21.619
Oh, be quiet. You did not. He's like, go slice

01:07:21.619 --> 01:07:23.820
me a piece of cheese, and I have to. How do you

01:07:23.820 --> 01:07:26.500
slice it, Dad? Boy, you got to put it together

01:07:26.500 --> 01:07:29.239
in a bowl, stick it in the fridge, make it coagulate

01:07:29.239 --> 01:07:31.380
like Jell -O. Get me four pinches of cheese.

01:07:32.619 --> 01:07:35.059
Can you cut that out of mirror? Yeah, just sprinkle

01:07:35.059 --> 01:07:38.880
it on my Cheetos. God. Yes. And they weren't

01:07:38.880 --> 01:07:41.280
even real Cheetos. Yeah, so you have all these,

01:07:41.460 --> 01:07:43.739
look at all this shit. There's a lot of them.

01:07:44.840 --> 01:07:48.539
You know, how can you, I guess you won't get

01:07:48.539 --> 01:07:50.739
drunk. You're not going to get pulled over for

01:07:50.739 --> 01:07:53.909
DUI. No, I'm sure it's accompanied by all kinds

01:07:53.909 --> 01:07:55.849
of wines out there. You'd have cheese breath.

01:07:56.769 --> 01:08:03.670
No. We'll have a driver. Or a cheese west. Oh,

01:08:03.670 --> 01:08:07.969
hell, get a big old oversized van. Have a bar

01:08:07.969 --> 01:08:13.349
in the back. Wow. In Vermont. I'm reaching here,

01:08:13.429 --> 01:08:15.550
man. I don't think there's much going on in Vermont.

01:08:16.289 --> 01:08:18.569
It's beautiful out there. Oh, I'm sure it is.

01:08:18.689 --> 01:08:22.909
Oh, it's on Queechie. It's on Queechie. Queechie.

01:08:22.909 --> 01:08:24.670
I don't know if I like that name. Well, that's

01:08:24.670 --> 01:08:26.630
the Queechie Main Street, Queechie, Vermont.

01:08:26.970 --> 01:08:28.810
I don't like the way you say that. I don't like

01:08:28.810 --> 01:08:30.729
it either. It makes me extremely uncomfortable.

01:08:32.430 --> 01:08:35.050
It's Queechie. It's not just the way he says

01:08:35.050 --> 01:08:37.489
it. He's got this little weird smile after he

01:08:37.489 --> 01:08:41.390
says it. And his hand is down his pants. I'd

01:08:41.390 --> 01:08:46.710
say Queefie. Okay. Okay. I got to cool this.

01:08:46.810 --> 01:08:48.770
The second half is going to be bad if I'm not

01:08:48.770 --> 01:08:51.050
careful. Yeah, the next one is a potent one,

01:08:51.109 --> 01:08:52.869
too. How much time do we have left? I want to

01:08:52.869 --> 01:08:54.270
start a new topic, but I want to make sure we

01:08:54.270 --> 01:08:55.369
have enough time to finish it. Do we have time

01:08:55.369 --> 01:08:58.409
to talk about this? Two minutes? Oh. Damn it.

01:08:58.430 --> 01:09:01.810
I hate this producer guy. He's such a downer.

01:09:02.590 --> 01:09:05.609
I'll bet in the northeast corner of the United

01:09:05.609 --> 01:09:07.329
States, I have a buddy out there. His name is

01:09:07.329 --> 01:09:10.710
Kyle Miller. Kyle Miller used to be a food and

01:09:10.710 --> 01:09:14.550
beverage manager for multiple different... venues

01:09:14.550 --> 01:09:16.869
out there. Would he go to the cheese farms for

01:09:16.869 --> 01:09:19.409
us and send us some cheese? I'm sure if I asked

01:09:19.409 --> 01:09:23.189
him. He owns a B &B out there that sleeps like

01:09:23.189 --> 01:09:26.590
12 people. So if we ever wanted to go out there,

01:09:26.590 --> 01:09:28.649
I'm sure he could hook us up. Where's he at?

01:09:28.789 --> 01:09:33.029
Maine? He's in Maine somewhere. Bangor? You know,

01:09:33.050 --> 01:09:35.369
I've got the address. It's at the house. I'll

01:09:35.369 --> 01:09:37.630
ask him. I used to work with this guy at the

01:09:37.630 --> 01:09:41.090
Four Seasons Resort in Irving, Texas. And he

01:09:41.090 --> 01:09:43.810
was a good friend. He got married and kind of

01:09:43.810 --> 01:09:45.909
disappeared off the freaking face of the earth.

01:09:46.470 --> 01:09:49.109
I mean, how miserable is it to live up there,

01:09:49.189 --> 01:09:51.609
right? How many months out of the year is it

01:09:51.609 --> 01:09:55.239
like? Unbearably cold. A lot. I don't know. Well,

01:09:55.319 --> 01:09:56.500
look how far north it is. I mean, literally,

01:09:56.579 --> 01:09:59.000
is it like nine months out of the year it sucks

01:09:59.000 --> 01:10:01.859
ass? And three months it's really nice? No, I

01:10:01.859 --> 01:10:04.260
would say maybe four months. I mean, it's four

01:10:04.260 --> 01:10:06.800
months miserable here in the heat. Well, that's

01:10:06.800 --> 01:10:08.619
a good point. I would take the heat over that.

01:10:08.920 --> 01:10:12.159
I don't know, man. I won't. You haven't lived

01:10:12.159 --> 01:10:15.319
in it. It sucks. I want to know. I lived in Connecticut,

01:10:15.319 --> 01:10:16.739
New Jersey. Can you look up the average temperature

01:10:16.739 --> 01:10:21.020
by month in Vermont? In Michigan. Let's do this

01:10:21.020 --> 01:10:24.310
really quick. Because, I mean, maybe it's not

01:10:24.310 --> 01:10:27.829
as bad as we think. Here we go. Buy a month.

01:10:28.409 --> 01:10:30.689
So I was talking to a gentleman. He lives in

01:10:30.689 --> 01:10:34.170
Boston or on the East Coast. And he said it hit

01:10:34.170 --> 01:10:37.810
to, there it ranges. All right, here we go. Here

01:10:37.810 --> 01:10:42.689
are the highs. In January, 32, 35, 40, March.

01:10:43.250 --> 01:10:46.789
April jumps to 55, then 67, then 76, and 80.

01:10:46.850 --> 01:10:51.319
Oh, shit, 82. 70, 57, 46. That's not that bad

01:10:51.319 --> 01:10:53.800
at all. No. Now look at the lows. Look at the

01:10:53.800 --> 01:10:59.229
lows. Negative 400, negative 500. Negative. All

01:10:59.229 --> 01:11:02.310
right, maybe not that low. Yeah, but still, the

01:11:02.310 --> 01:11:04.449
lows can be low. It's actually not as bad as

01:11:04.449 --> 01:11:06.109
I thought it was going to be. Nowhere near as

01:11:06.109 --> 01:11:07.170
bad as I thought it was going to be. But if you

01:11:07.170 --> 01:11:09.829
go to somewhere like Green Bay or something like

01:11:09.829 --> 01:11:12.890
that, that's where you get a lot of the coldness

01:11:12.890 --> 01:11:14.789
up in there. Is it the Great Lakes? Some areas

01:11:14.789 --> 01:11:18.930
are just so cold, your bones hurt. Is it the

01:11:18.930 --> 01:11:20.770
Great Lakes that are making Wisconsin so cold?

01:11:20.850 --> 01:11:23.390
I mean, what the hell? I think it's the weather

01:11:23.390 --> 01:11:25.189
dips down from Canada. That's where it comes.

01:11:26.010 --> 01:11:28.350
Straight down. Right there in the middle. Damn.

01:11:28.350 --> 01:11:30.770
It's a big valley. Yeah. So Vermont's like, you

01:11:30.770 --> 01:11:35.710
know, humid and hot. I would never go up there.

01:11:35.810 --> 01:11:39.229
Too hot. Yeah. I would love to live up northeast.

01:11:39.710 --> 01:11:42.210
I mean, I never will be able to, but I'd love

01:11:42.210 --> 01:11:44.350
to go visit. I don't know if I could live there

01:11:44.350 --> 01:11:47.189
just because of the politics driving me nuts.

01:11:47.229 --> 01:11:48.989
I could live there, but Shelly's always wanted

01:11:48.989 --> 01:11:52.149
to do the trees changing. The Vermont cheese

01:11:52.149 --> 01:11:55.529
trail? Yeah, yeah. Like, no, the trees. The trees,

01:11:55.649 --> 01:11:58.369
the changing, the fall leaves, right? So you

01:11:58.369 --> 01:12:00.449
land, I guess, in Boston, and you drive north,

01:12:00.569 --> 01:12:02.689
and boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. All right,

01:12:02.710 --> 01:12:05.109
guys, the second half of the podcast. Thank you,

01:12:05.109 --> 01:12:06.869
Chuck, for staying on top of stuff. A shout -out

01:12:06.869 --> 01:12:08.470
to the Horseneck folks. We want to let you know

01:12:08.470 --> 01:12:10.229
we tried out your stuff this past weekend on

01:12:10.229 --> 01:12:12.710
Friday. We loved it. We got the cherry stuff.

01:12:12.829 --> 01:12:15.590
We went out to a venue, and we drank it, and

01:12:15.590 --> 01:12:18.090
it was good stuff. I enjoyed it. Shout -out to

01:12:18.090 --> 01:12:19.869
the Horseneck folks. Shout -out to the Whistlepig.

01:12:19.909 --> 01:12:22.489
Thank you for the opportunity to taste that stuff.

01:12:22.590 --> 01:12:24.750
We didn't score it very high, but you guys. Have

01:12:24.750 --> 01:12:26.210
a larger collection of Dudes Like Us. I'm Sean.

01:12:26.350 --> 01:12:28.689
I'm Paul. And I'm Jeff. Check us out on dudeslikeus

01:12:28.689 --> 01:12:32.470
.podcast. On Facebook and Instagram. I'm probably

01:12:32.470 --> 01:12:36.590
there. There you go. Delete that. We'll just

01:12:36.590 --> 01:12:41.390
edit that out. We're not editing that out.