Dudes like us, we are go flight. Very interesting
that the elephants surrounded the younger one.
Did they? Yeah. You didn't see that? At the very
end, they all kind of backed in. They did. And
protected the... So we're watching a video of
a zoo in San Diego that got hit. Huh? It was
not San Diego? Oh, the San Diego Zoo. Oh, I'm
sorry. Watch. And so it was a 5 .2, and the elephants,
they do. They protect the small one right around
the middle. Yeah, so they run around for a second
trying to figure out what the fuck's going on,
and then they collapse in every different direction
and face outward to protect the young elephant.
Yeah. That is fascinating. They're probably thinking
it's a stampede or something. Yeah, who knows
what they were thinking. Well, they were probably
scoping out any risk or dangers. They're looking
around. They're like, we're going to fuck somebody
up. You know, they were tooting their horns.
Yeah, they're like, we're going to kill everybody.
And then they come back into a group. They turn
their backs to the young one, and they protect
them. Look at that. Yeah, I'm totally thinking
they're thinking there's a stampede coming. Or
maybe they're doing a circle jerk. Could be.
Sniff my butt. Sniff my butt. That's what animals
do when there's earthquakes. Oh, now they got
arrows. Why are we doing arrows? Yeah, come on.
People are stupid. For those folks listening
to the Dudes Like Us podcast, we found out that
there was a small little San Francisco 5 .2 on
the Richter scale. San Francisco or San Diego?
San Diego. San Diego. San Diego. So I initially
found out about this this afternoon. There's
a shout out to Shitty, Mr. Brian out in San Diego.
He was at work. He was like, yeah, the whole
fucking building was moving. Yo. Earthquakes
are intense. You guys have never been through
one, really, have you? I was in one. There was
actually one in Cincinnati when I was growing
up. And I was laying on the sofa watching a James
Bond movie on WTBS. I don't even know what day
it was. And I was laying there with my little
afghan pulled up. Saturday morning. And it could
have been Saturday morning. And it rattled a
little bit. I could feel it. And that was about
it. You don't get a lot in Cincinnati. No. But
there was something. That was the only time that
I ever felt anything. As far as Earthquake goes.
I remember the time we went to Poncho's and then
we came back and you took a huge dump. That was
about the closest I've been to it. Oh, dude.
Rattles. What the hell is that? What's happening?
What Jeff happened? Poncho's. I don't know how
they stayed open so long because that stuff was
just caustic to the gastrointestinal. Was that
when you - Raised a flag. Yeah, you raised a
little flag to get more nasty shit. More diarrhea
on a plate. Oh, God. I heard they used whale
fat as the - Are you saying they're no longer
around? I don't believe so. I haven't seen them.
There are a couple around, at least there were.
I remember I went to one, and I had to, on the
way home, it hit. And I had to run. That's when
I first moved here. We didn't know any better.
We're like, oh, it's a Mexican buffet. Let's
go. Me and my roommate. Oh, because it was excellent.
Yeah. We ate there. We're eating shit out of
it. And I was on the way back. It was probably
about a 20 minute drive. I was like, you need
to hurry. And then I sprinted all the way. Of
course, our apartment was nowhere close to the
parking lot. So I was doing the I got a shit
run going up to the steps and clenching and everything.
It was a full disc. Explosive. Oh, it was painful.
What a great, great visual. All right, the first
second half of our podcast is launched in nice,
nice prime. Thank you for that visual. I don't
think I went back after that. Did you like blast
the back of the toilet, shrapnel everywhere?
As I was sitting down, you know, hit the tank.
I'm just seeing him push his stomach out and
arching his back. He's got that shimmy. He's
got that sound. His arms are out and he's like.
Like a walrus. Somebody help me. Yeah, anyway.
In Texas? Wow. I say we don't go. Challenge accepted.
I say we don't go. We did hit all of them. Look,
I think. I think their food was fun. It's probably
like 15 bucks for the – I mean, when I was first
going there in El Paso, I think it was like $4
.95 for all you can eat. Yeah, it was cheap.
This was back in 93 when we were there. Would
you say CeCe's Pizza falls into this same sort
of category? I am out on CeCe's Pizza until the
day ever, forever. I'm done. I think CeCe's is
better than Poncho's, but it still sucks. Paul's
son worked there, and they have a conveyor where
the pizza would run through the cooking process,
and at the other end, you need to be there to
catch the pizza. Yeah, it's not sophisticated.
It just falls on the floor. It falls on the floor.
Yeah, it doesn't have the beam going across like
at Amazon warehouses where the things all stop.
Yeah, they just fall off. All right, well, it's
Dudes Like Us podcast. Chuck, Mr. Producer, thank
you. They sweep it off the floor and blow it
off and put it back in the... Absolutely. They
didn't even care. That's going on. That's what
he said. It's a compilation of errors here. Anyway,
all right. All right, well, Dudes Like Us, I'm
Sean. I'm Paul. And I'm Jeff. And we've got a
wonderful second half of the podcast, all primed
and ready to rock and roll, including the ponchos.
I want to go. I'd love to go. I'll try it again.
It's been 20... I'm sure they have to refine
their stuff. 32 years. What was the closest one,
Mesquite? Arlington, Mesquite. How far is Mesquite?
It's probably about 45 minutes from here. I don't
know where on Mesquite. Is there a distillery
close to Mesquite? It's got to be. I can't recall
one being over there, but I think we've got a
plan. Well, if we want to go to Arlington, we
could swing by Texas TX Whiskey. We could. Is
that anywhere near Arlington? I think it kind
of is. We could invite Larry. Larry's out in
Weatherford. We can do that. Is that where Poncho's?
What are all those stars out there? I don't know
what's happening. You've got a lot of stars out
there on your Google Maps. Those are all the
Poncho's he went to. This seems to be an inefficient
search. Are you a Google Map expert? No, he's
got like your Adobe experience. What is Firewater
Liquor? Is that a liquor store? It's up there,
right there. Oh, okay. That's a liquor store.
What? All right, so to answer the question, yes,
TX Whiskey is southwest of us. Yes. And on the
way out there. Well, whatever, man. I'm just
saying we make it a journey. I mean, I kind of
liked it. I mean, it's very gluttonous there,
but, you know. Oh, you've been to TX Whiskey?
No, the ponchos. Oh, ponchos. Oh, my wife loved
ponchos. It was like a thing. It was like we
took the kids there. It was cheap. It was a lot
of food. The kids have a ball because they get
to play with the flag. Yes. Stop. We're not ready
yet. Yeah, it's like all you can eat. But we
were always ready. I was. It closes soon. Can
I tell you a quick story? Because I was giving
Chuck shit about not being able to work the Google
Maps. Brody, you know what Brody said to me the
other day? I was struggling with my iPhone. I
didn't know. He's like, you can track me anytime
you want. All you got to do is blah, blah, blah.
I was like, I don't know. He goes, Dad, they
have iPhone classes for old people. He was serious.
He wasn't being a dick. I was like. Shut up.
I was like, what an asshole. I hate to say we
are old. Dude, I mean, he was like frustrated.
He was like, they have classes you can take old
people for iPhone training. I wanted to kick
his ass. I was like, you should. It's so disrespectful.
But he's right. I mean, there's a ton of shit
I don't know how to do on my phone. Yeah, well,
you know, I'm in the same boat. We're turning
into our parents. Where the technology. It's
passing you by. Parents, like, they couldn't
program the VCR or whatever it was, right? Whatever
the technology was at the time, and you got frustrated
with them? Dad, you just hit this button, this
button, you have to flip these switches, we're
not there. We're done. We're done. We're us.
That's us. Now we'll record A -Team every other
Wednesday. How'd you make it do that? And then
they call you. I can't get it to. Recorded Laverne
and Shirley instead. How do I fix that? Did it
piss you off when they'd preempt something and
then they'd delay the broadcast of what you wanted
to tape? And then you would get the first half
of it and you would get the second half. It was
not sophisticated back then. It wasn't sophisticated
recording. You're right. It was a meltdown. What
was the box? TiVo. TiVo, yeah. TiVo changed everything.
Yeah. Is TiVo still around? No. Well, I mean,
that's used to record rabbits. DirecTV bought
TiVo and then just worked it into DirecTV. That's
what I was going to say. Did away with TiVo.
I think they just kind of merged. They did away
with the TiVo name. But TiVo was purchased by
DirecTV. Interesting. And how is DirecTV doing?
I mean, aren't people moving? I don't think the
satellites are doing well. I thought so. But
what I'm hearing is people are getting frustrated
with having 15 subscriptions. That's me. They're
like, it's cheaper to go back to satellite. That's
me, man. I've got... It's ridiculous how many
subscriptions I have. Yeah. To music and streaming.
Yep. I've got three different music. Well, you
just did one. I've got Amazon, Apple, and Spotify.
I think I have Spotify. You pay for Spotify?
No, I don't. I just got Amazon. I have Amazon.
There's no perfect remedy out there. My family
uses Apple, and I use Amazon. So what am I supposed
to do? Go to Apple. And then convert my entire
playlist of 3 ,000 songs. You can. Convert it?
Yeah, I did. Or do it one song at a time? When
I did Amazon to Spotify, when I shut down my
Amazon, I Googled, how do I move my Amazon account
to Spotify? Oh, you do this, this, and that,
and imported it all. I'm sure. So your purchases
are reciprocal? Are you buying songs on Amazon?
I don't know. I know. You buy a lot of movies.
If you're buying songs, I don't know. But that's
different than Amazon Music. Right. But if you're
buying songs, I don't know. But if you have a
playlist of just the songs. I have 3 ,000 songs
in my library. Yeah. That you paid for? No, no.
It's all part of free is the Amazon Music Plus.
Go out there and Google, can I move my - Well,
it's not free. I paid for Amazon Music Plus.
Yeah. I paid 14 bucks a month or whatever it
is. Yeah, that's what I used to do. And I was
like, I'm done paying that because - Amazon was
struggling with Sonos. It doesn't work as well.
Sonos. Sonos. They made changes. It would only
play 100 songs of your playlist. Huh. The same
100 songs over and over and over again. Yes,
the first 100. That was it. That's all that would
load. And now you hate those songs. You hate
them. Is it still, oh, that must be on the second
generation. Could be. So I was like, screw that.
And I was like, but I don't want to lose my playlist.
Right. So I Googled and it says you just do this.
It was a different program. Yeah, but you had
to pay for the Spotify? Yeah. Okay. I just discontinued
my Amazon. Okay. It's the same price. Yeah, you're
going to pay a subscription no matter what, but
he's saying it was easy to like, you know. Yeah,
it was. I mean, it's all easy. You just got to
learn how to do it. Hell, I called Jeff at fucking
920 last night. I was like, dude, I've done this
several times. I went to the public library,
the Frisco Public Library, and I'm trying to
read. I'm trying to get the book transferred
from the public library over to Kindle. And I
was like, what the fuck? And he was just like,
there's a drop -down. And as soon as he said
drop -down, I was like. And so it stays on your
Kindle. For two weeks. Yeah, for two weeks, for
as long as you're checking it out. I need to
do that. I'm traveling tomorrow, and I have nothing
to read. Damn it, I waited too long. Do you know
what your library card number is in your login?
I don't have a library card. That was amazing
because I went there and they were like, I've
never seen a library card this old. Because I
had the original library card. That's what I
have. You were like, we're up to like 10 digits
now. I was like, I have how many digits? Well,
I have five. And I think you had five as well.
Isn't that crazy? We're up to 10 digits now.
I don't think I've ever had a library card. Well,
you're not going to be able to get it for tomorrow,
but for the next time you travel, go to the library.
You maybe don't do it online. Get a library card.
You log in, and then you just download the Frisco
library app. Search for whatever book you want.
Do it all online. I don't even need to go to
the library. No, not at all. Dude. Nope. What
the hell, man? I think it's wonderful. I mean,
I've taken advantage of the system a lot. I mean,
I think the library one is good. Regarding music,
I have procured thousands and thousands and thousands
of songs using, I don't want to say pirating
software, but using software by design. It's
kind of like I go to, I think it's called Audible.
Napster? No, no. It wasn't like Napster or Map.
It wasn't like Napster. I know what you're saying.
It wasn't where I download it. And I have it.
Actually, I've done that too, but that's not
what I'm referring to. This is one, I think it's
called Audible or Audibles or something like
that. Audible is the e -books. So they changed
it. Someone bought them out, but there was a
program out there, and I don't remember the name
of it exactly, but it was a legit program. And
all you do is you go to Amazon Music and you
pick out whatever song you want, I don't care
what it is, and you load it to the playlist and
you play it. But this other app, had a way where
you could take that song that you were playing
and kind of like renting the book from Kindle.
This one you could send, hey, I want to play
it over. It was Audacity. That's what it was.
I want to play it on Audacity. And I would send
hundreds of songs over to Audacity. And Audacity
would play them. And once it played it, it kept
it. That's how I was getting it. It never checked
them back in. Well, no, it checked it back in
immediately. So it would play it, but as it's
playing it, it's recording it. Oh, I see. So
it's just kind of like it's playing. It's making
a copy. It's making a copy when it starts playing
it. And you can sit there and play it. It plays
at times eight, and it was just like I was just
dumping thousands of songs. I mean, I have an
incredible library. I do, man. I can see an invoice
arriving, and it says. $27 ,000 from Audacity.
Right. Well, I mean, it wasn't Audacity. It'd
be Amazon, if anything. Well, also with the Frisco
Library, and you could do this as well, Sean,
is you could download the Audible books as well
for free and listen to it. I'd rather read it.
But if you're driving on a road, for like a road
trip, because my wife and I would do that. Actually,
this was before the apps and everything. We'd
go down to the library, get the CDs. And we'd
throw them in the car to listen to them. Yeah.
Smart. Yeah. There was, I mean, there was a time.
Hell, they had compact discs there, the CDs.
Yeah. You could go there and do it. I remember
I went to the library and I had two laptops with
me. And that's all I was doing. I was sitting
up there. I'd take the CD. And you were burning
the CDs? I would take it and I would upload it
straight to the hard drive. John. Dude, it was
like, it was. Yeah. It was easy. I mean, it was
just like, you know, it was there. I mean, yeah,
I know that's wrong. I recognize that. So how
did Napster was the very first file sharing one?
I don't know if it was the first, but it was
the biggest thing at the time. And it was free?
Yes. Yeah, there was LimeWire, Napster, Morpheus.
But then they started charging. They started
charging because they got a massive lawsuit.
Well, they got in trouble, right? They did. And
actually, I just saw a news story where Napster
just got purchased for like $200 million or something
like that. I didn't know they were still around.
I didn't know that. Yeah, I saw some news article
that says Napster just purchased, and it was
some astronomical number. I was like, why would
that be relevant anymore at all? Because there's
a lot of file sharing outside. Napster was kind
of originally. you know, for music. But, you
know, there were a lot of other things it did,
too. It did movies, a lot of porn, a lot of programs,
games. Okay. Video games. You know, there's...
So it was general file sharing. It wasn't just...
It was traditionally just all file sharing, peer
-to -peer. It was acquired by Infinite Reality
for $207 million in March of 2025. Damn. With
plans to transform it into a virtual 3D concept
platform. So obviously it's morphed into something
else, didn't they? Well, and obviously it has...
It isn't. It's the technology stack. It's probably
the tech. Yeah, exactly. It's not there. You
can't access it to download the latest Journey
song. Right, right, right, right. The latest
Journey song. Yeah, but I bet they have an incredible
library of people that have logged on as far
as IP addresses go and just the personal data
from everybody. I mean, that's what they're paying
for. It might be a customer list. Well, I mean,
seriously, if you think about it. Well, think
how old that is. I don't have the same IP address.
Right. I'm sure the address migrates. I mean,
redirects. I have different companies, different
locations. I'm talking like, for example, your
Yahoo account, you know, or your Gmail account.
I'm using a completely different one. Well, you
are. Or your MySpace page. I mean, hell, there's
people out there. MySpace. There are a lot of
people out there that have the same ones. Hell,
there's people out there that still have AOL.
I still have my Hotmail, but I don't use that
for anything like that, though. My father has
net zero email. I remember net zero. He still
has an active net zero email account. Wow. Isn't
that crazy? Who runs that now? Who hosts that?
Net zero. It's still net zero. They just have
like a server and a... closet somewhere dude
yeah this one guy that's just sitting there keeping
it alive next to hillary clinton's right right
that's been bleached it's it's insane yeah well
it's amazing how far and i remember specifically
the the being in the hotels i was in the hotels
at the time in the mid 90s that's when uh the
internet kind of started getting going right
yeah And you had AOL was the big thing back then.
Oh, yeah. It was huge. I'll never forget that,
the modem router sound. Oh, yeah. You've got
mail. I've got 14 .4 baud rate. You know, it
was ridiculous. And you had all night to wait
for that image to download. Yes, that black and
white gif. Of the boob. I am never going to be
able to whack off. It's going to take forever.
You're just like slow rolling it? The beginning
of porn was awful. Well, it's like, you know,
you'd go out there and you'd look at these songs.
You're like, okay, that's a four minute song
at four megabytes. That's going to take me three
hours to download. And I remember. Is it worth
it? We were in the dorm, right? And I was the
one that probably had the most sophisticated
computer and modem. Okay. I had a 2400 bond.
Yes. Yes. Oh, I was the shit. Anyway, so. They
would come in and they would use my computer
to go on the BBS. Remember BBS? Bulletin Board
Service? Oh, yeah. Oh, yes. And they would download
the GIFs, right? The genesis of porn, right?
The real pixelated shit. Yes. And they would
wait. And they would wait. And they would wait.
And then... Something would happen, like the
modem would hang up. The phone would ring. Yes,
yes. That's what it was. The phone would ring,
and they'd be like, no! They've been waiting
for like 45 minutes or an hour for this picture
to come up. And you know, one of the ones was,
do you remember when Rob Lowe had that underage?
Sex tape? Yes, yes, that's right. It was a sex
tape. Well, one of those was an image still from
that tape. Of his? This dong? No, no, no, of
him with some underage chick, remember? So it
was kiddie porn. Well, I mean, I don't know.
She was 17, I guess. I don't know. I have no
idea. But anyway, they were waiting for that
picture to come through, and yeah, somebody called.
No! And wasn't there something on the Touchstone
phone that you could make it not? You had to
put in a code. To have it not ring. Right. Well,
I mean, if you turn off call waiting or whatever,
right? Yes. Yeah. That's what it was. Turn off
call. See. Star 69 or something. Our generation,
our kids' generation have no idea what we're
talking about. No. The different. Star 69. Like
register. That was call back. When you had to
register for classes with your touchdown phone.
Oh, yeah. Yes. Ah, I screwed up. See, I used
my computer and my modem to auto dial. Oh. And
they were like, can I use your computer? register.
Oh, hell. I mean, think about the time when it's
a Friday night. We want to go to the movies.
We're going to have a do -do -do -do -do -do.
If you know the name of the movie, press one.
To list from a picket movie is press two. Movie
phone. I remember that guy did movie phone. It
was just some guy in his garage who started that
thing and he turned into this multi -millionaire
and all of a sudden that thing probably died.
Instantaneously. Boom. Gone. Movie phone. Depict
from a list of movie theaters. Press three. Or
you had to file your taxes with paper. Yeah.
That's when you got away with murder. We lived
during a period that was really unusual, right?
The birth of the internet. We had so much massive
technology change in our life. You had to go
to the post office to get tax forms. Right. You're
1040. I mean, dude, where we started and where
we are now compared to where our kids started.
And where they're going to end up, God, who knows,
right? I mean, with AI and robots and shit, but
who knows? But, dude, we lived some crazy -ass
technology. They're going to be like the people
in Wall -E. Yes. Like the virtual reality, big
fat blobs on floating chairs. Exactly. Exactly.
Yes. They were already headed that way. Some
of the younger ones are. Yeah. Yeah. I hope not,
but it seems to be the trend. Have our kids ever
received a busy signal when they call someone?
Do they know what that is? Do they even know
what that is? What is that? I think the phone's
down. I don't know. I don't think so, but God.
That was horrific. I'm trying to get through.
It's like, Jesus. Paul, will you get off the
phone? The busy signal. Remember they had shared
lines? What do they call those? Party lines.
Party lines. Like a different house. Yes. Imagine
picking up your phone. Somebody's like, oh, baby.
Yeah, that's what. Can I use the phone? Get off
the phone, mom. Come on. That's within the same
house. But you had ones that were different houses.
Yeah. What the hell, man? What do you mean? Oh,
so I can call a friend and be on a three -way
chat with you? No, it was a shared line, meaning
you lived down the street. It was like the same
number and you shared it. And we shared a phone
line. Oh, that's ridiculous. It absolutely happened.
Yeah. It happened. Well, I mean, I can see how
easy it is. I mean, the wires are there. It's
easy to do. And then it became intra -house.
Yes. You were talking to your girlfriend. Mom,
I'm on the phone. Yes. just before us. I think
they may have been ending right as we were becoming
of age. It probably was more rural as well. I
use the party line. It's kind of like, hold on
a second, and you tap the line once, and it's
like, boo, boo, boo, boo, boo, and you dial the
other number, and you talk to that person, hey,
I'm going to join, and you tap it again, and
it joins to the third person again. It's a conference
call, right? Yeah, it's a conference call. Which
is different than party line, but yes. Shoot,
that's what I called a party line. Yeah. No,
it was different. It literally was a sheriff's
line. Just like when you said, Mom, I'm on the
phone. Don't pick up. It would be your neighbor
who's picking up the phone, listening on your
conversation. So you're on a 1 -900 number, and
you're talking to Levi, Carolyn. Do they still
have 1 -900 porn numbers? I don't know. Does
that still exist? Why would you? Yeah, subdued.
I don't know. Subdued with a high voice, with
a voice modulator. Hi, my name is Chuck. Now
it's just AI. I'm a Pisces. I think that died
with Girls Gone Wild videos and Miss Cleo. Girls
Gone Wild? Whatever. What happened to him? Is
he in prison or is he on the lam? He probably
got killed. He made lots of money. He did. Because
it was a big old scam. Was it? Yes. What are
you talking about? A bus went around? This guy
would go around and pay chicks to party with
him, get him drunk, and he would videotape it.
Yeah. Oh, they weren't, was it not consensual
for them to be? They supposedly agreed to it,
but I think where he got himself in trouble is
he would ask if they were of age, and they would
say yes, and they would be underage. So he's
like showing boobs of a 16 -year -old. But that
shit happens. That's what ended up getting him
in trouble. Joe Francis. Yeah, Joe Francis, that's
what it was. 70 counts. racketeering and drug
trafficking, prostitution, and promoting the
sexual performance of children. Oh, God. They
threw everything at him. Oh, yeah. He was...
Well, let's be fair. He was a piece of shit.
Of course. I mean, good for him for trying to
be innovative, but, I mean, look, you cross the
line. You got to check. If you're going to be
making that much money on it, because it was
a great concept, let's be honest, we all looked
at it. Have you guys seen the... How could you
not? They had the pay -per -view channel. Yeah,
pay -per -channel. Girls Gone Wild. Grandma's
Gone Wild. I saw the commercials. I never did
the PPVs. No, I didn't. Basically, it's a party.
There's just a bunch of girls dancing. They lift
their shirt up. All they do is a flash. Is that
it? Well, back then, that was... That was a lot.
And you didn't have to wait 45 minutes to download
the image. Beat the shit out of the Sears catalog,
that's for sure. I mean, shit, I remember with
cable, like the Showtime. It would be blocked
out. Red Shoe Diaries were blocked out, but sometimes
that blurry image. Was that a boob? With the
lines. Oh, yeah. It would get kind of stuck,
and you'd see a little bit of it. Unscramble.
Yeah, unscramble, sort of. But you'd sit there
for an hour going, I know what's coming up. I
know what's coming up. And that's when you get
one of these friends that have this nefarious
box that shows up, and they've got these little
cylinder RF. You screw them into the coaxial
cables, and they filter out. You want HBO? I've
got a filter for that. You want USA? I've got
a filter for that. Right. I had a filter that
gave a bunch of different ones. Hustler? I don't
think they had Hustler on TV, but they did have
like a porn channel on there. They really did.
It had everything. But I had, I think I may have
even shared this story before. I lived in Irving,
Texas, and I wanted to circumvent the whole house
so that I didn't have to go to each TV and hook
it up. So there's a telephone pole behind my
house. I got my ladder out, climbed up the telephone
pole, got... The cable, the little cylinder,
and I screwed it on there, and I was like, boom,
I got it. And the whole house has it. Excellent.
I was so excited. Oh, everything. Yeah. It was
fully loaded, stacked. Everyone had it. Everyone's
excited. God is great. And it turns out that.
All of Irving has it now? No. Actually, it was
quite the opposite. So every house down the street,
I had fucked up. Oh, no. I had fucked up. Which
means there's definitely somebody coming out.
So there were people that did come out. Look,
I smoked pot back then a lot. And I did construction.
And it was just kind of odd. because maybe I
had the paranoids or whatever, but there was
these cars that would drive up and down the street,
and they had these little satellite imagings.
It was. Like an E .T.? Remember an E .T. when
they're looking for the alien and they're driving
around the house? It was exactly like that. They
were driving up and down the street, and I'm
like, what in the fuck is going on? They're looking
for Sean. And I'm getting paranoid. They were
looking for whatever device was disrupting the
signal. They couldn't figure out what was going
on. There was a back feed that was coming back.
They were putting power down the cable to force
the signal through. And it was creating a loop,
which was making it worse down there. Then they
forgot how to fix that. And so I basically fucked
up everybody's cable on the whole street. And
I remember I was in the backyard. And I was just
goofing off, just playing around with the kids,
having a good time. And the guy knocks on the
door. Hey, you mind if I go back there and check
on the thing? And I'm like, oh, yeah, it's going
up there. You know, it's no problem. You know,
he goes up there and he goes, that's what this
is. God damn it. That's not what he put there.
And I was like, he was like, you know, he didn't
say anything. I did it. And I was like, that's
strange. How the hell did they get up there?
You know? You're like. But what do you see that
this cable? Oh, it goes to that house. It doesn't
matter. I mean, he couldn't tell because the
way the cables came down there. Because I took
all the tags off. You know, you couldn't tell
which house it went to because there was a bundle
of them. But whatever. So he fixed it and then
you lost your stuff. Well, yeah, I lost it. But
then I got another one and I just didn't go back
up there. I just did the local, the TV down there,
the living room. Because really. We only really
watched the living room anyways. I mean, it was
kind of a luxury to have it in my bedroom, but
it wasn't that big of a deal. Whole house. Whole
house. Oh, it was nuts. It was freaking stupid,
man. But it was. It was a sign of the times.
It was kind of funny what had happened and the
whole freaking out. What are these guys doing?
And I was like paranoid thinking, they know I
have marijuana. Oh, my God. I thought that's
what that was all about. It's no different than
I had DirecTV. I was one of the first people
to ever get DirecTV because I was obsessed with
getting the stupid Houston Rockets, right? The
NBA package. Dang. Yeah, I know. Now, I mean,
dude, screw the NBA. Anyway, but I had one of
the cards that I had a friend that knew how to
program it. Right. And so I would give it to
him, and he'd program it, and I was like, oh,
my God, I get everything that DirecTV offers
completely wide open, right? And then DirecTV
got wise. Oh, they'd send a little zap. And they'd
send a little signal. Yep. And then, boom, it
stopped working. I was like, fuck. And then I'd
call my friend. Yeah, we all got nuked. Bring
it over. I'll program it. That kind of thing.
Over and over. It was a cat and mouse game. Right.
Right? And they would try to program it differently
so that it would be harder for DirecTV to nuke
everybody. and I finally just got tired of it.
Well, how much was it cost every time you did
that? Like $25 to program it. Oh, that's not
bad. Not bad. No, it wasn't too bad. He was probably
nuking it himself so he could get $25 every time.
Right. This guy's such an idiot. Nuked, nuked,
nuked half four times in one day. Well, he probably
put a deadline on there. Probably. But I remember
there was something they called Black Tuesday
where finally DirecTV had figured out something
that nuked. everyone like it was a hard nuke
right and then like they were like yeah no everybody's
down we're all trying to figure out what to do
that kind of thing you know i was like i'm done
i'm done you know well they always well the companies
well the the whatever you want to call them the
piraters or whatever they always find a way to
do it yeah but the companies aren't far behind
and they're gonna catch up they're gonna catch
up but then they adjust and then some some new
version comes out yeah It's just a circle. I
know. It's a circle. It's how long you want to
put up with it. How long you want to put up with
it. I mean, we're doing it nowadays. I mean,
we've got, I mean, we share each other's accounts.
I mean, they allow you to have a certain number
of accounts. Well, Netflix now limits you to
your IP address now. Right. So I can't, like,
Brian was like, I need to connect, log into your
Netflix for a little bit. I wanted to watch it.
We don't have it right now. It's like, well,
you could try, but, you know, they're going to,
Shut it down pretty quick because you can't because
you're down there in Richardson. I'm way up here.
It's like it's like my YouTube account. I'm the
one that pays for the YouTube. Right. So I sit
down to watch whatever. And it says you have
too many. And I'm like, oh, hell no. You're booted.
I'm the one guy paying for it. And I had no idea.
I mean, I shot you one of them. I know. But but
I was like, dude. And so I all I have to do is
click. We try. And it automatically. Thank God.
It automatically kicks me back in. Which means
it's kicking somebody else out, I'm assuming.
But I like, oh, I get on DOS. Who'd you give
it to? Do you need to tell them to get off? Yeah,
but specifically, what are you watching? Because
really, the only thing I would watch that I would
get bumped is Fox News, maybe. That's it. That's
the only reason I have that. No, I don't think
we have to be watching the same thing. It's how
many people are watching it, are in YouTube.
You have like four licenses or five licenses.
You only have a certain number of them. Oh, that's
how you do it. Okay. Yeah, yeah. I didn't know
that. I thought you were watching the same thing.
I don't think so. So anyway. Yeah, we could be
all watching the same thing. I would get so pissed
off. It's the number that are doing it. I'd be
like, oh, oh, oh. Try again, try again, try again,
try again. I'm just imagining, I'm imagining
Dawson and like, you know, 15 of his friends
all huddled around watching, you know, the big
game or a fight or something. And I'm like the
one guy paying for it all, you know. Of course,
it's not true, but it can't be that many. Anyway,
it's really funny. I mean, we still do it, though.
I mean, you guys are on Disney, and I don't think,
I mean, Disney, they're still letting us get
away with it. I mean, Netflix, that's the first
I heard that Netflix does that. Yeah, Netflix,
because we were paying, we were sharing with
Julie's brother for a while, and we were splitting
the cost, but it was under his account. And I
remember logging in once, and it says, is this
the main IP of this account? Right. I was like,
fuck. Right. So I backed out of it, and I was
like, all right, we need to stop. Yes, because
they're under you. Yeah, because I don't want
to screw him up, because if I said yes, it was
going to block him out. Right. So I was just
like, all right, he can have it. We'll get our
own for $10 a month or whatever it is and be
done with it. Yeah. So Netflix caught on on how
to do it, so they figured it out. Yeah, man,
our adolescent days of trying to figure out how
to get to that hard -to -reach porn. I found
a bunch in the back of the trailer. But now it's
crazy everywhere. But speaking of kind of porn,
how about San Francisco erecting this 45 -foot
stainless steel, extremely anatomically correct...
statue of a woman. Like there's vulva? Naked
woman. Well, how do they define a woman in San
Francisco? That's a good point. But anyway, all
these things, while they're putting it together,
these crane operators are like crawling up her
ass. They're putting the final... The guy literally
has his head up her ass while they're configuring
the thing. What is it made out of? It's made
out of stainless. It's like a mesh over stainless
steel. Does it light up or anything? Yes. So
it glows at night. So it is a mesh. You can see
through the arm. That's what I mean. That is
ridiculous. I'd like to see it light up. So the
other thing it does is - I want to see the crotch.
It has motors inside of it, and it mimics her
breathing. Like her chest heaves. So how much
does this cost, San Francisco? That's the point.
The price of one toilet. That's - Jeff, you just
nailed it. There are people looking at this statue,
and there's homeless encampments all around,
and people are like, what the fuck? You guys
are going to spend what kind of money on this
thing, this ridiculous 45 -foot statue? Why?
Your priorities are so whacked. So are those
lights on it? That looks like a projector. That
looks like a projector. But it does glow at night,
apparently. It's so ridiculous. What the hell,
man? And it's supposed to be what? It's supposed
to be... Who is it? Is this like Venus or something?
I don't know. It's supposed to be some feminine
strength and compassion in the Democrat one city
which is being plagued by crime and homelessness.
And we have some butterfly lady dancing underneath
her. It's called our evolution. I don't know.
Whatever. I think it's kind of cool. It's just,
you know... I think with all the shit going on
in San Francisco, that's the last thing they
needed. I think that's the point. It's misplaced.
And it's just. Priorities are junk. Yeah, the
priorities. She is juggy. Yeah, she's in shape.
Well, good thing they picked a model that was
in shape, huh? Wait till they rip it down. Yeah.
I mean, it's. Oh, yeah. No shit. I mean, she
looks white. Dude, I'm done with the empire.
You know. So dumb. It is dumb. But you know what?
There's lots of dumb things going on. Like us
Friday night. Yeah. That's pretty typical. We
touched this a little bit on the podcast, the
first half of the podcast. So we met up at the
Holy Grail. Some wings. You guys showed up. Jeff,
she showed up. Had some beer. Ran over there
real quick. And then you guys took off. And then
Chuck and I were like, where are we going to
go? And I was like, we went over to Total Wine,
kind of rummaged through to see if we could get
some last second samples. And then we bought
some Still Austin minis. And they were about
to head home. And I was like. I'm not ready.
I mean, and he's like, well, where do you want
to go? Do you want to go to Dee Dee's? He started
spouting off all these things. And I was like,
no, no, no. And I was like, yeah, let's just
go home. And then we had like the last second
little thing of Rail Yard. Because it was a nice
night. Oh, it was a great night. Yeah. It was
a great night. And we pulled up and they had
a band playing. And I was like, that's what I
wanted. I wanted to have a couple beers outside
of this great night and have a band playing.
We walked in. Steve Ravon. Perfect. Yes. I was
like, I'm in. Sat down. Started the pictures
to you guys. And the text started rolling. And
then Paul's like, Shelly, can I go and play?
Can I go and play? So what happened was we left
Holy Grail because we were supposed to hang out
with another couple. And something happened with
that other couple. She lost her phone. And so
it ruined their whole night or something. And
so we didn't do anything. And so Shelly was like,
you know, I was like, oh, Chuck and. Chuck and
Jeff are at the rail yard. And she goes, if you
want to go up there, I'll drive you up there.
Oh. I know. But she was like, but you can't come
home shit -faced. Total fail. Total fail. But
you were shit -faced before you left. No, no,
no, not at all. He says that. No, I was not.
But you were legally intoxicated when you arrived.
You did have one. One directive that you could
not come home shit -faced. Right. That was it.
That was it. That was it. And I said, oh, no,
no. You could have gotten laid prior to your
plans being canceled. I was so cockily dismissive.
I was like, oh, Shelly, that's not going to happen.
I'm with Sean. He never gets drunk. I'm on top
of this. He was drunk 30 minutes later. I've
learned my lesson 18 minutes later after. Fucking
125 proof. The bottle, yeah. The bottle came
out. 1792 full proof. It was fantastic. We cannot
do shot after shot after shot. Of 125? Dude,
I did two. I mean, did you guys do? That brings
me to the point. You guys were out there for
a long time, and you said the bottle was two
-thirds gone. I had two shots. We did three.
I think we did three total. Is that right? Sure.
I did two. Three, how big were the shots? I think
Sean protested. No, but then we were still buying
drinks. Are these pulse shots? We had three.
How big were the shots? You poured them. Well,
yeah, we walked out there with our cups, the
beer solo cups. Solo cups. Red solo cup. I don't
know. I'm just telling you, it was another fail.
It was really fun until I don't remember it anymore.
I remember it somewhat. I mean, I remember there.
I remember getting home. Yeah, I got my kid to
come get us. I remember getting home. I vaguely
remember that, yeah. Yeah, we probably did pass
the line a little bit too much, but I got to
tell you that I wasn't a huge fan of 1792. Okay,
let's start there. I mean, we have several bottles
out there. I mean, I'm not a... I mean, it's
still not horrible, but I really liked it that
night. It tasted like freaking grapes to the
point where I'm buying a bottle of that next
time. Chuck buys it every other week. Or is it
every week? It's good. Every other. Every other.
Well, except for this week. It'll be. Well, and
then the other thing. So the three of us are
sitting there totally enjoying the old dudes
that were playing the band. Yeah. Two really
old dudes. The guys that are our age. Right.
Well, no, they were older. I think they were
older. Well, not much. Maybe not. Anyway, I look
over, and three of Dylan's really close friends
are over there at another table, and I spot them.
So I go over there to say hi to them, and then
they just, you know, when I come back and sit
down, they come over and join us. So that didn't
help. You're like, round the drinks. Yeah, things
are flowing. I got on them, too, because I feel
like they're like, dude, one of the dads is here.
He'll buy. You know what I mean? And I got on
them. I was like, dude, all three of you guys
are grown -ass men and you're working. You need
to buy your own drinks or you need to buy around
for once. And I give Aaron credit. He stepped
up. He's like, this one's on me. You know what
I mean? Because they're still in this mooch mode.
Oh, yeah. And then they're in their 26. I was
like, uh -uh. Not anymore. You guys need to step
up. You know? I remember giving him shit about
that. Buy the old men the drink this time. Yeah,
for once. Yeah, it was fun, though. It was great
music. The weather was great. And, you know,
we ended up going home. And I remember the next
day I had a rental car. And I had to get that
rental car back by 9 a .m. So, you know, I get
up at 720. You know, I'm just like, fuck, this
sucks. And I wasn't really feeling great. And
I think I was a little hungover. And so I immediately
hydrate. You know, I've got Celtic salt rolling
through me and a cup of coffee. Brazilian nuts.
Freshly squeezed lemon. You know, just getting
the natural stuff going. Some little cayenne
pepper. Some borax. I got to follow up on that
borax because I read something about it. And
there is some stuff going on here. But I don't
want to. Pull that yet. I'll wait till the next
podcast. You know what's funny about that Saturday
morning? I woke up being kind of pissed off that,
you know, here I go again. I drank too much last
night. I'm going to get shit for it, right? And
I was up early. Yeah, but you made it home. Oh,
I know, I know, I know, I know. There's so much
history there, but I'm not going to go into that.
But, I mean, you know, so like at 7 or 7 .30,
I was like waiting for, I was watching the clock
until 8 o 'clock because I was going to hammer
the yard work. And I was going to, you know,
because I can't start before 8. That's kind of
like the rule. I don't know if that's a rule
in your neighborhoods, but you're not running
the mower before 8 o 'clock. Right. You know
what I mean? That's the courtesy thing, I guess.
But I was watching the clock, and then I had
forgotten that you needed to do your rental car
thing, right? And so I was like, okay, cool.
We'll knock that out real quick. We'll go drop
off the car real quick, and then I'll get back,
and I'll do my yard work. I was so, you know,
stoked to get it going. What a shit show. So
for the prior two weeks, around the Frisco area,
they've got these little signs that say, Hey
guys, we're going to have a marathon. They're
like big four by six foot electronic signs. I
didn't see anything until when I was driving
towards Hillcrest, it said event. Expect delays.
Yeah, I got the same thing. But there's a difference
between expect delays and grid fucking lock.
And being able to go nowhere. Nowhere. I don't
understand your guys' problem. I got out of the
neighborhood just fine. Yeah, but at 7 .15 in
the morning. My appointment was at 9 o 'clock.
Hey, look, I'm just telling you. I didn't know
it was coming. I was like, I'm leaving early.
I had to be there at 9 a .m. Well, I had to be
there at 9 as well. We left at 8 .20. 8 .15.
You should have left at 7 .45. Well, that's what
time we left. We left at 8 .15. I took a left
on Hillcrest and could not proceed. It was so
bad. That's it. I bailed early. I took a U -turn.
I was like, I'm going to be one of those smart
guys. Barely crossed Roller. I'm going to be
one of those smart guys because I know all the
back roads, right? I know how to get out of every
subdivision. I crossed Roller. I go into a subdivision,
blocked. Okay, well, I know another one. Block.
Another one. Block. Another one. Block. And so
I get out the same way I went in. And then I
went to another subdivision. Did the exact same
thing. It was getting really frustrating. Well,
why were you blocked? Were you over at his house?
Yes, he was helping me take the car back. Yes.
You just didn't meet him at Hertz? I was going
to say, why were you - We're trying to meet at
Hertz. But you were in your neighborhood. Yes,
and I took - Yeah, but he drove my rental home.
Yes. Oh, okay. Right. Understood. Right. So anyway,
it was a shit show. It was so frustrating. Yeah,
it was frustrating because, I mean, it got to
the point where I got past Rowlitter, came up
to Lebanon, and there was just, I was stuck.
There was no movement for like 20 minutes. I
couldn't move at all. I'm giving you guys shit,
but I agree because I was, you can ask my wife,
I was panicked. I was like, how the hell am I
going to get to my class that starts at 9 o 'clock?
Our entire neighborhood is surrounded. Correct.
And it's closed. Every, I mean, they had Ohio,
Lebanon, and Coit completely barricaded and everywhere.
And he and I were on the phone screaming. I'm
screaming, he's screaming, and we're like, finally,
this is what we decided. We hate marathons, and
we hate people who run in marathons. And then
I go, that means Julie and Andrea. We hate them.
We were irrational. Would you agree we were irrational,
Sean? i was beyond irrational i pulled uh i i
came to one of those barricades and there was
a police officer there and i was like how i got
out of the car and i know he was kind of like
oh shit He's got his hand on his pistol. I'm
animated. Taser. I'm hot. And I'm like, how do
I get out of this rat race? How? Just tell me
which direction to go. I have no idea what the
fuck, how to get out of here. You should have
heard it by the phone. I've got a car in front
of me. I've got a car behind me. I've got a brick
wall on my right. I can go nowhere. I go, dude,
you just need to turn around. I can't go anywhere.
I can't go anywhere. Stuck. We were irrationally
frustrated. Irrationally. I don't know. Like
I said, I left at 745. I turned right on Roller
out of my neighborhood, went straight over Hillcrest,
and I was gone. So I left the house at 915, no
barricades. Yeah. They were done by then. They
were done. Yeah, they were done. Okay. We had
known that. Yeah. We would have done that differently.
It's all about knowledge. It is about knowledge.
We could have gone north on Hillcrest and taken
a left on Main, and there was no barricades up
there. If we had just gone on Preston. Yeah,
we would have been there in five minutes. See?
Yep, yep, yep, yep. The more you know, go Joe.
So when they have it next year, now you know.
Yeah, they won't have it because I'm going to
city council. I'm going to talk to the mayor.
I'm going to talk to every city council person,
and it's not going to happen. I'm going to put
poop bombs on every other doorstep. I do think
that the route needs to be adjusted because our
entire neighborhood was surrounded closed. So
what are you going to do? 100%. 100 %? Hey, you
can't get out of your neighborhood. Yeah, that's
why I was panicked. I was like, what the hell?
So I must have gotten lucky because there was
no blockade. There was no traffic. There was
no runners. There was nothing when I crossed
at 745. The irony is you stuck and couldn't get
anywhere, right? And then I'm a super smart guy,
and I went way north and Maine and Independence,
and I made this gigantic loop, and I probably
went, I don't know, 10 miles. And you went. Cracked
my windshield. Two miles. I did not. Okay, I'm
sorry. We met there at the exact same time. We
did. Within minutes. Literally within minutes,
yes. Oh, God, it was insane. It was. Okay, it's
over now. Yeah, they need to adjust the route.
So it doesn't start and begin at the same spot.
Didn't you say you yelled at one of the marathoners?
No. Yes. I yelled in the general direction. It
wasn't one. I yelled in the general direction
of a couple dozen. Yeah. He's like, I hate you.
People who run in a circle are stupid. Yeah,
I did say something like that. Whatever I said
was stupid. And I hope to God it doesn't show
up from that. body cam with the police officers
wearing. It totally will. Did you call them a
bundle of sticks or anything? No, I didn't say
that. I just said, I said, F you freaking marathon
runners. I hate you. It was so frustrating. It
really was. But you know what? In retrospect,
I mean, what they could have done is to make
it better is just kind of directed us. How do
you get out? To get out of this rat race, Go
north on Hillcrest. Well, Andrea said that even
if you came across one of those intersections,
they were stopping the runners and letting cars
go. Not often. One or two at a time. Yeah, so
I don't know. Out of the 50 ,000 cars that we
were behind. The planning behind that, that's
messed up. It is. Well, the marathoners shouldn't
have to stop for one thing. Ever. Yeah. So if
they have that kind of scenario going on, they
messed up. Yeah. This is like the fourth or fifth
year they've had it up here like this. Really?
Oh, yeah. Apparently, I don't go. It's been going
on for quite a while. I had the same problem
last year. And the year before and the year before.
It's been in this area for a while. I've been
lucky. I've never had the problem. Well, again,
you're not in this neighborhood. It's this specific
neighborhood that's the problem. Yeah. Whatever.
I mean, really, the magic thing is don't leave
the house until after 9 -15. Yes. Wait for the
marathon to be over. And that's really it. Yeah.
You just got to plan. Like I said, I left early.
Then I went to Rudy's and had me a breakfast
taco and sat there for half an hour. Yeah, we
went to Norma's. Yeah, we ended up going to Breakfast,
didn't we? Yeah. Did you ever get your credit
card set up that said there was fraudulent activity
going on? You know what happened? Shelly ordered
something that she thought was going to be like
$120, and when it came back, it was like $200
and something. So it asked her, is this fraud?
And it wasn't fraud, but she didn't want it to
be charged because she was lied to about how
much it was going to cost. So she said, yes,
it's fraud. I said, whoa, you know what that
does? Cancels everything. Cancels everything.
Shuts down the card. They send new cards with
new numbers. Now, everything that you have on
auto has to be updated. There you go. Didn't
she do this once before? This has happened like
probably six times. What does she get in those
lithium batteries for a butt plug? I don't know.
I don't think so. Oh, it's yours. Extra vibrate.
I don't think that's happened either. No. Oh,
that was the thing from the estate sale? I was
so excited about my $10 blower. Yes. And it sucked.
What was her name? It doesn't work. And it sucked.
It did suck. The blower did suck. The blower
sucked. Yes. It did not blow. So how long did
you charge the battery? Overnight. Yeah. The
battery's bad. Bad battery. So if you open those
things up, there's actually a series of C batteries
in there. Really? Yeah. If you want to dump $100,
you can probably buy some more batteries. Yeah.
Take away the batteries. That's nuts. Yeah. That
was a huge disappointment. I was so excited.
I was going to be finally just like you guys
with a cordless blower. Well, so the shout out
to the rail yard. We had a good time out there.
I liked it. Every time I go down there, I enjoy
it. Good music. It's outside. Now, in August,
I don't think I'd say that. Yeah, we're going
to pass. This time of year, it's a really good
place to be. So we've got a couple of topics
to talk about I want to hit on. But I know Jeff
is adamant about talking about exploding homes.
So I really want to know what's going on with
this whole program. Yeah, well, the answer to
it is I still think unknown because. It's unknown,
yeah. Yeah, it's unknown on why this thing blew
up. But it happened down in Austin. and this
house basically turns into matchsticks in, like,
less than a second. I got a video. Yeah, look
at the video. This is a ring camera on the other
side of the street, and it's that little white
thing right in the middle. Right there is the
house, and it's just, like, gone. So we're looking
at the house. Looks like a... All right, that
thing just... Oh, my God. Went up in smoke. That
thing was a massive explosion from the center
out. So they said that there's no gas located
in that thing? That's what they're saying. So
that's kind of crazy. Why would a house not have
natural gas? Is it meth? Is it a meth lab? Well,
who knows? I don't know. I mean, who knows what's
going on? I mean, it could be anything. Maybe
that thing was built on unexploded ordnance from
like a testing ground. I mean, if they don't
have gas there, that doesn't mean that the city
doesn't have gas there. It doesn't mean that
they don't have their own propane tank that they're
providing. That's what they do a lot of times.
They'll have a 200 -gallon propane tank that
they come and fill up. There could have been
a leak like that. That explosion was intense.
Oh, yeah. Nobody died? Nobody was in the house?
A propane tank was there. I heard that six people
were inside and they all lived. How is that even
possible? It had to have been the propane tank.
I mean, what else would cause that? I don't know.
That's the question is what would cause this.
And it damaged, I think, 24 surrounding homes
is what I heard. And there are people several
miles away who thought trees fell on them because
it was so loud and the bang that they heard.
That is unbelievable. Huh. Well, I don't know.
Really, I don't think pain would cause that much
of an explosion. It sounds to me like... That
was yesterday. It almost looks like explosives
to me. Yeah, that was yesterday. I wonder who
lived there. They're going to figure it out.
I mean, they're going to dig into it, and they're
going to find the explanation for it. So when
you call up your insurance company, what do you
say and go, this is covered? Well, they have
to find the cause first. So I got to tell you,
there are clauses and policies that exclude terrorist
operations, you know, terrorist activity. So
if your house is blown up from a terrorism, sometimes
coverage isn't extended, that kind of stuff.
Well, who knows, but I don't think this is terrorism.
I mean, I'm not saying like, no, no, no, no,
no kind of terrorism. I'm saying it's like it
could be any kind of local person. It could be
homegrown. Yeah, I get it. I mean, someone like
a mayor or a city official or a school official
and some disgruntled parent decides he's going
to poke a hole. Or like the governor of Pennsylvania.
whose house was firebombed by a psycho. Yeah,
what is up with that? He was just crazy. He doesn't
like Shapiro for who knows what reason. Maybe
because he's Jewish. I don't know. He hates Trump.
So there's no political leanings, at least from
what I've read initially. Yeah, it's that guy
right there. Look at that. Oh, how evil does
he look? He looks stable. He looks completely
unstable. Is he the father of those four kids?
I don't know. Really? That's the guy? Yes, that's
him. And he decided to scale a fence and go to
the governor's mansion. And firebomb it. And
elude, you know, they saw him, and he eluded
them. Did he have some sort of... He had Molotov
cocktails. I mean, but did he have some sort
of literature or something? What do they call
that, a manifest, or what do they call that?
Oh, a manifesto. A manifesto? He probably thought
he wasn't going to get caught. These people are
stupid, man. I don't know. It may be too early
to figure it out, but I know that they're saying
that. It's pretty fog of war right now. Yeah,
they're still trying to figure it out, but it's
fog of war. 38 -year -old Cody Balmer from Harrisburg
in connection with the arson attack, attempted
homicide of Pennsylvania Governor Josh Shapiro.
So Josh Shapiro was supposed to... Wasn't he
supposed to be, instead of Cameltoe Harris, wasn't
he supposed to be? No. He was supposed to be
instead of Tim Walz. Or Tim Walz, that's right.
They were saying, why don't you pick Josh Shapiro
instead of this Tampon Tim? Because he was Jewish
and everyone was very anti -Jewish at the time.
That is so fucked up. It is completely fucked
up. And he would have been a very dangerous VP.
Yeah, he's a very strong speaker. Very strong.
Look at that picture there of the New York. Not
like Tampon Tim. Dude, this guy looks beyond
evil. Ah, whatever. Just plant him. What? Get
it over with. Look at that face, and he's sticking
his tongue out. I mean, what a weirdo. I don't
think he really gives a shit, is what it is.
Dude, the guy's so mentally ill. He's on something.
He's so mentally ill, it doesn't matter. And
that's what they'll say. Or drugged out. Yeah.
They'll probably let him go and say, you know,
ah, we don't care. You know, he's on drugs. I
don't think so. It's not really his personality.
Not on this one. That's attempted murder, man.
I agree. I agree. Plus, he went after a Democrat,
so the Democrats probably should be all up in
arms. He's been charged with attempted murder.
Yeah. We have a bourbon to talk about. We do
have a bourbon to talk about, but before that,
we have Jeff, who went out of town to get this
bourbon. Yes, he did. Came back, and he's opened
up the little advent calendar. Did we talk about
your trip? I mean, you did, right? Yeah, we talked
about it. But this is one that, again, drove
up there. This is from Jim Beam. Yeah. This is
what we're drinking is Baker's 13. Baker's 13.
13 -year -old Baker's. Now, I got to tell you,
for the next half a year, we're going to be having
a lot of these. Bourbons, Jeff's releasing one
at a time. We didn't want to know what they were.
We want them to be special. So they're very exciting.
We're going to call them the Advent Calendar
Whiskies. So it's the light green. We have this
awesome chart that our producer printed out that
has all the - Beam Suntory. It has the houses
of bourbon. And Suntory is actually a Japanese
company, so Japanese -owned Beam. Did you know
that? I did not know that. Yeah, Suntory is Japanese.
That's awful. That should not be the case. Americans
should own bourbon. Yeah, so as big as Jim Beam
is, Japanese own it. Jeez. Anyway. How would
that family allow that sale to happen? Billions
of dollars. Yeah, same way Bud got bought by
him. Billions and billions of dollars. Anyway,
this is Baker's 13. Very hard to find. At least
it is down here. The only place I've seen it
is on the allocated shelf where you have to spend
points and shit like that for it, right? So they
had it on the rack. Of course, the distillery
was top -notch. Their tour is outstanding. Great.
One of the things I found interesting is they
call it brewer's wine or something like that,
or brewer's beer, or distiller's beer, when they
make their mash and they amplify it or cook it,
ferment it, and then they put it into the distill.
Well, the fermenter was outside, and they had
all these tubes going back and forth, back and
forth, back and forth, where it would funnel
it, and they figured all the formulas out to
say it needs to be this temperature when it goes
into the distill. So they have all these pipes,
and he goes, it's actually moving 45 feet, but
there's two and a half miles of pipe that is
going through. Yeah. So it's flying through.
It's insane. Yeah, it's ridiculous. And the still,
their column still is insane. It's ridiculous.
So anyway, this is Baker's 13, 107 proof. This
is a single barrel, and it's got a little metal
tag that has the serial number on there of it.
I'm surprised you can shadow the bottle with
this heavy handedness. So looks like the mash
bill. It seems very high rye to me on the taste.
But anyway, keep going. It's 77 corn. But it's
not. 13 rye. 13 rye is pretty high. And 10 barley.
Yeah. I mean, if I didn't know any better, I
would say this is a rye. A rye bourbon. It is
a rye bourbon. Yeah. 100%. As opposed to a whiskey
bourbon? Is it a weeded bourbon? No, I mean when.
For it to be called rye, it's not majority corn.
It's majority rye, right? So this is not a rye
bourbon. That wouldn't be a bourbon then. It'd
be a rye. Rye whiskey. There you go. Okay, there
you go. Rye whiskey. Anyway, it's... Well, let's
walk through it. So I got to tell you, I was
not a huge fan of this when it opened up. And
I was tight -lipped about it. It's growing on
me, and I think the flavors are starting to come
out more and more. As I start to handle the glass,
my hand is warming up. The liquid in here, the
whiskey, it's swirling it, releasing it. I mean,
it's taking a while, 45 minutes, and it's starting
to come around. I'm tasting like a medicinal,
like a cherry. You know that cough syrup? Get
a little medicinal cherry. And I'm not saying
that in a bad way. I'm saying that in a good
way. It's got a little vanilla buttercream kind
of hint that kind of comes at you. Yeah, I agree.
When I first had this, I was not a fan. It was
a brand new bottle, cracked it open, and I sipped
it a minute after it got poured. It opened, right.
And I was like, eh, it's a little harsh. But
it's opened up quite a bit. And like I said,
Sean said, it's... I'm picking up some of that
vanilla's sweetness on there again. Some nuttiness.
I think I get some nuttiness in there. So definitely
the cherry. I'm liking that cherry. Stone fruit.
Not to be harsh. I would expect way more from
a 13 -year -old bourbon. I don't know. I don't
know, man. What's the proof on this? 107. It's
107. Got kind of a little tobacco at the tail
end of that. With 13 years, there should be a
lot more going on in this. I don't know. Do you
still get the red licorice? I'm not sure why
I'm disappointed. Yeah, are you getting that
red licorice, as you were saying earlier, the
cherry licorice? There was some of that. But,
man, this finish, I don't know. It's one of the
taste notes is licorice. Oh, is it? Yeah, the
anise. I think the secret to this or a catalyst
of releasing some of the tasting notes on this.
is the warmth of the hand. I think it's important.
Have you had those Brandy snifters? I mean, this
is a Glencairn glass that we have. Brandy snifters
are wider at the base. And I think for something
like this, it would probably call for a wider
snifter glass. So you get your whole hand on
it up? Yeah, because I think the heat is actually
doing it a lot of good. I mean, I'm breathing
in it, trying to warm this thing up. And the
more I do it, I mean, I've got like sweet tobacco
that's coming out of this on the tail end. I
mean, it's starting to really, I'm tasting so
much more now. Before it was like cigarette butt.
Honestly, that's exactly what I tasted at the
very beginning. And I was like, this is not right.
And now there's just a bunch of flavors popping
out. Baker's 13. Baker's 13. Baker's 13. This
is great. I will tell you this. Paul got the
Baker 7 because I remember you were excited to
get it. Yeah. And you didn't like that one. Right.
You were very disappointed in it because I think
the bottle was sharp looking and I think it was
fairly new at the time. I don't think – I think
Baker's at least around this area. I don't remember
seeing it. But I think we were not disappointed.
I know you were disappointed more than I think
all of us. And maybe it's just this profile that
you're – Right. You have a hard time with because
– You know, I'm picking up some things, and when
I first had it, I was not a fan. Like Sean says,
the longer it sits, the more it's opening up
for me. Yeah. So if you get this, pour it and
let it sit for 15, 20 minutes. Yeah. And I think
this, I'm curious to taste this for the second
round of the Baker's 13, because the rumor is
that when you open a bottle and you bring it
past the shoulder. And it allows that to open
up inside the bottle. So I'm kind of, I don't
even know what to call that, off -gassing or,
you know. Oxidizing because there's oxygen in
there now. Yeah. So I'm hoping that's what it
is. And maybe when the second pour comes out,
it's going to taste a little bit different. This
one right now at the stage it's at is perfect
for me. It still has that, and frankly, it's
got the same kind of aftertaste as the first
whiskey that we had. What was the first whiskey?
It was... Hellhound? Hickory... Hickory Creek
or something like that, right? Yeah, Hickory
Creek. Yeah, it was Hickory Hill. Hickory Hill.
And that one was aged... Do you remember how
long was that one aged? Like 18 months. Nothing.
Yeah. Are you serious? Yeah. The one we had in
the first podcast? Uh -huh. Oh, damn. Yeah, not
bad considering. That, I was going to say...
We should have talked about that because that
matters. Yeah. I think that's what I'm struggling
with so much with this one. It's aged 13 years.
I mean, there's so much. But we had the Camelot.
I think we have the 15 - and the 16 -year Camelot.
And all we get from that, fantastic, but, I mean,
it's very oaky. Very oaky, oaky taste to it.
This one does not have the oaky taste that the
Camelots do, which is kind of interesting. Ooh,
he's bringing out the Baker 7. Yeah. Well, I
mean, I wouldn't mind to do a little cross comparison.
Yeah, I want to try the 7 compared to the 13.
As do I. I mean, again, it's not bad. I don't
want to say it's bad, but I had an expectation.
It's funny. It's all perception, right? When
you have an expectation heading into something,
it can change your response to it, right? Right.
That's my biggest issue at the moment. It's not
bad. I mean, again, guys, if we're hanging out
and somebody pulls this bottle out, I'm going
to enjoy the hell out of it all night, right?
But for the purposes of what I'm getting out
of it and what my finish is and what my rating
is going to be, I mean, damn, I don't know how
much this bottle costs. A hundred bucks. A hundred
bucks, yeah. A hundred bucks. Okay, dude. You
add that to the mix and I'm not. Well, yeah,
I see what you're saying. I really do. And I
agree with you on some of it. But it's there.
And I'm kind of wondering, is it us? The cliche
thing, it's not me, it's you. It's not you, it's
me. Right. Well, I know this is a desirable bottle
that a lot of people look for. Okay, 13 is better
than 7. Oh, I haven't tried it yet. No question.
13 is better than 7. Without a doubt. Oh, yeah.
It's almost astringent. Right. The 7. All right.
Well, he's wanting. Mr. Producer is pressuring
us for our rating here. So this is at 107, right?
Yeah. 107. I'll just shoot from the hip. I'm
going to give this one a 7 .9. I'm going to give
it a 5 .8. Damn. It's harsh for me, man. That's
all right. That's all right. All of us can't
have the same palate and same taste, right? I
think I'm right at a 7 on this. Yeah. I'm at
a 7 .9. It opened up a lot for me. Yeah. I enjoyed
it right at the very tail end, and I think that
if this bottle, maybe it's cooler up here, you
know, in the podcast area, up in the top floor.
I think if this bottle was a little bit warmer,
I think those tasting notes would come out a
lot more. I'm kind of wondering, we should probably
dilute it a little bit and see what happens.
We should probably start doing that. Bourbons
that we don't really necessarily agree with right
off the bat. Yeah, we need to have a little...
Distilled water? Yeah, a bottle up there with
a little... Eyedropper? Eyedropper up here, yeah.
That's a thing. It is. The professionals talk
about that shit all the time. Yeah. We're pros,
aren't we? We are now. So we have D1 Spirits
coming up here pretty soon, right? About a month,
yeah. Interesting. We need to get 1845, get those
logged on. I'll do a shout -out to Lowry Crossing.
1845. We will be on Friday, April 19th, right?
Friday, April 19th? No, 18th. 18th is Friday.
Easter is the 20th. Also, Stephen's 23rd birthday
is the 20th, so that's a Sunday. And how about
that? Happy Easter to all of our listeners. On
April 20th, 420. And Hitler's birthday, apparently.
Is it really? Great. I don't know. The elementary
kid used to tease Steven. Your birthday's April
20th. That was Hitler's birthday. Apparently
Donald Trump's too. That's hilarious that they
would even know that. I know. That's so dumb.
I've never even checked. I don't even know if
it's true or not. All right. Well, I don't think
we touched a whole lot of our topics up on the
dry erase board. We did, actually. Did we? Absolutely.
I can't turn around. We talked about the rail
yard. We talked about exploding homes. Every
time I turn around, my back freaking cracks.
We talked about the marathon. psychosis we went
through. The 45 foot woman. We talked about Josh
Shapiro. We didn't talk about Snow White and
the miserable existence of that movie. That lead
actress torpedoed that movie. All right, well,
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