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What are you saying? It works now? Which only

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in my right ear. Are you kidding me? I thought

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I fixed it the last time. This is three in a

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row. You didn't. I even told Jeff. I got it figured

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out. I woke up in the middle of the night, and

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I was like, I figured it out. And I went to that

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freaking line, and sure enough, you know what?

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And you saved it. Yeah, I did save it. Ooh. But

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you didn't load it, did you? I didn't load it.

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Wow. You know what? Forget about it. Outstanding.

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All right, well, look, guys, welcome to another

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episode of the podcast. What is today's date?

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15th. The 15th. It's January 15th. Oh, my God.

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Mid -January. Shit, man. The time is just flying

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by. Two weeks into January. We have a fun -filled

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podcast set up for tonight. We've got a young

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lady here. It's going to be a little different.

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It's going to be quite a bit different. It's

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different. We are derailed off the whiskey tracks

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today, and we're diving into the grapes, and

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we're going to talk about this. And I kind of

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like this because we try to be diverse on a couple

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things. We started doing a scotch, which was

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weird for us. We've also done some... Well, not

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technically tequila, but yes, tequilas and agave

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spirits and scotches. So we're jumping in head

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first, man, because I'll go back a little bit

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for those folks that haven't listened to the

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Dudes Like Us podcast before. We're all friends.

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Frankly, we're best friends. And I know, Paul,

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you have tier one friends. Yeah. We're in the

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lower tiers. Yeah, lower. Definitely lower. Yeah.

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We don't own a boat or anything, but God bless

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it. We'll get there eventually. But we're three

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best friends. We hang out all the time. Someone

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said, hey, you should do this. And we were like,

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oh, I don't think so. And then a little light

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went on. I was like, hey, man, we've got our

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home karaoke box right here. We could just hook

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up three microphones and try it. So we did it.

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And we've been doing the karaoke. I'm sorry.

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The podcast thing ever since then. So we grew

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up from different regions of the world, different

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styles. Jeff grew up in Ohio. Paul was all over

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Indonesia. Your father was a geologist. You're

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in Brazil or Argentina? Argentina. Argentina.

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And Chuck, our producer, thank you. Dudes Like

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Us, I'm Sean. I'm Paul. And I am Jeff. And part

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of the podcast is whiskey. So we were kind of

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like, well, we want to talk about something.

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What is our focus? And we were talking about

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bourbons and whiskeys, and we started off procuring

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them, which was kind of the whole thing, how

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we met our guest tonight, which we'll eventually...

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dive into uh but procuring them was kind of the

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thing where are we going to go to do that so

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we would like shop around and we were at first

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we're novices frankly we're still novices we

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really don't know what the hell we're talking

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about but we think we do we're one of those guys

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we didn't have the money at first we were like

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no starting out really low and oh yeah when paul

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was the worst i mean every freaking bottle he

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picked was like a debbie downer i don't know

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williamsburg you'll never ever outlive that one

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it tasted like coconut yeah what was the other

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one that was backbeat that was so bad that was

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really All right, whatever. I don't know what

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the deal is. And look, it's not Paul's fault.

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Hell, it's a roll of the dice. It was. It just

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happened to be that every one he picked was horrible.

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He rolled craps a lot. Like, you guys never picked

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a bad bourbon. No, we was all winners. All winners.

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I'm excited about tonight, though. We are. We're

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trying something very different tonight. So one

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of the ways we would procure them is we'd go

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to the local spirits place. Liquor King, Total

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Wine. What are some of the other ones we go to?

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Specs. So we basically hop that. And immaturely,

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immaturely. We would sample whiskeys because

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we would like, hey, which one are we going to

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have for the podcast and talk about? So we'd

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sample them and we got to the point where we're

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like, shit, this is the third place we've been

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to. I'm a little tipsy. So, you know, this kind

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of became our happy hour on Friday. You know,

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we didn't mean it to be, but it just happened

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to be. And one of the venues we went to at Total

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Wine, we met a young lady. And she does the wine.

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It's really not our thing, but we're kind of

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like, oh, well, you know, Jeff has taken on wine

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and his wife enjoys it. Yeah, I'm very interested

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in wine. I've been out to Napa Valley a couple

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times with my wife, been down to the Fredericksburg,

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the Texas wineries down there and stuff like

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that. So very interested in the wine. So I'm

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very excited about tonight. Paul is a novice,

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though. Yeah. Well, you know, I know if I drink

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enough, I feel good. That's kind of my focus.

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And it's made of grapes. This was grapes too?

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I've got a food and beverage background from

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the 2000s, about seven years working at the Four

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Seasons Resort, and they ground us through some

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of the wine and cognacs and different alcohol

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things. It was kind of fun. But it was in one

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ear and out the other. But anyways, we met this

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young lady. Her name's Heather Leiner, and she

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worked at Total Wine. And she's always been a

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gem up there, and she tried to sell us all kinds

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of stuff we didn't want, and we ended up buying

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it anyways. But you know what? I think I bought

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something. Ho -Ho, Jo -Jo, Su -Su, something

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kind of a cabinet. I think your last day we actually

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bought a couple of pinots. Yeah, I bought two

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bottles. Yeah. Yeah, I opened one New Year's

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Eve. For Thanksgiving, I think it was. It was

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one of them, and we still have one more. Of course,

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that's the kind of cool thing right now is that

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usually in my life, I don't know about yours,

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is that I used to have like one or two bottles

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laying around. Fuck. Now I have got like a dozen,

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two dozen bottles of wine always there on the

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shelf waiting for us to open up. So I'm at a

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point. My wife, she drinks like the sweet Riesling

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wines. But, you know, Julie likes what? She likes

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the white wines. She can't do the reds because

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she gets the headaches from them. So I drink

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the reds. She drinks the whites, whether it's

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Chardonnay. She's into Pinot Grigio right now,

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Moscato, Riesling. She kind of rotates around

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those right now. So without any further ado.

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Without any further ado. Welcome to the podcast.

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Heather, we're excited about you being here.

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You agree to. to bless us with your presence

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and kind of educate us because we really need

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to be educated well introduce yourself briefly

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okay well my name is heather and um i'm super

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excited to be here i've never done a podcast

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so there's a microphone right up in my face my

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husband would have so many comments right now

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he'll be here next time hopefully so um yeah

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i kind of got started down this journey um i've

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got seven kids and that wasn't by accident i

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wanted seven and i had seven and people are like

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do you know what causes that i'm like Yeah, that's

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why I have seven. Wine. Why the number seven?

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It's the number of completion. Come on. Yeah,

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you're going to have it. So I have seven kids

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ages 24 to 10. My youngest just turned 10. So

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a big, nice household. Five still live at home.

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Two have flown the coop. Thank God. Thank you.

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I love you kids. But yeah, so I did fitness.

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I was running about five gyms, managing and working

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at them and teaching like 27 classes a week.

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It was in my 40s, like my early 40s. And my back

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started going out on me. I got to the point where

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I went to go tie my shoes and couldn't get back

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up. And I was like, well, I'm 41. This doesn't

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feel like I should be doing this. Welcome to

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middle age. Yeah, it's weird. You wake up at

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40. For younger listeners, you wake up at 40

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and your body just breaks. Everything just breaks

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every day. Everything changes at 40. I know I

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had perfect eyesight until 40 and then it went

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sideways from there. I wear glasses when I drive

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and watch TV now. Yeah. As soon as you turn 40,

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boom. I have glasses for all that stuff, reading,

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everything. And anyways, I told my husband, I

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was like, hey, listen, I can go back to school,

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get a degree in kinesiology. I know the human

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body really well. I have over 2 ,000 hours in

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yoga certifications and aerials and all this

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kind of other stuff. And basically, I said that

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or the only other thing that interests me is

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wine. I could do wine. He's like, do that one.

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That one sounds like fun. Really? Like a career

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in wine? You could be a chiropractor or you can

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dabble in Reiki? Yeah. Well, I really enjoyed

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wine and I had been to Napa with my sister. I'd

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been to Fredericksburg and I like drinking it.

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I think it's really fantastic. And I have a really

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good palate. So I pick up things that other people

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don't pick up. And so people have always told

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me that because I also enjoy beer, that I should

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brew my own beer because I have a really great

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flavor profile. I pick up things. And I was like,

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well, that just sounds really time consuming.

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It is. Yeah. And it's like staring at something

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to boil. I don't want to do that. So anyways,

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yeah. So I went down that path and here I am.

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And you are a... Yeah, so sommelier. So I'm going

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through both WCET and Court of Masters. And then

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also the goal is to be a master of wine. That's

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like a path for people that are really mentally

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unstable, I think, because it's very hard to

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do. So I've seen some of these shows where you

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have these. These small liaison there. And they've

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got like 10 glasses of wine in front of them.

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And they're of various colors. And they just

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hold up the glass. They look at it. They swish

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it. They sample it. Do this. And they go like,

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oh, yeah, 2003, blah, blah, blah. And they list

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off these grapes that are in it. It's astonishing.

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I mean, we are trying to get to that point with

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our bourbons. I mean, what say you? Is that?

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what you want to be that the, the end game. Yeah.

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So a master of wine, um, it's the hardest program

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and it has the fewest number of successes in

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it. So these people, um, it's, it's, you have

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to be a WCET graduate or they really prefer you

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to be, then you have to apply to get in. Um,

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and then once you're in, you're being quizzed

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on the soil, the climate more so. To the point

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where you have to have an agricultural background.

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So I am in school for enology and vitification,

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which is just the study of winemaking and wine

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growing, basically. And that'll help me to become

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a master of wine. So basically, I said I wanted

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a career where I could spend all the money in

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the world and not make any for at least 10 years.

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And that's kind of the path I'm down right now.

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So yeah, what does a master of wine, what door

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does that open for you? They get to decide their

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jobs. So I have a few friends that are master

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of wines. I use the term loosely. We have each

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other's contact information. If I called them,

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I don't know that they would know who I was.

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But they're pretty fantastic people. But basically...

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You can decide if you want to teach or open up

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a wine school, you want to travel around the

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world, you want to review wines, you want to

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a lot of a lot of vineyards, get them to come

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in and oversee. I mean, they know everything

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you've got to know about soil and you've got

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to know about like bacteria. And yeah, I mean,

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your whole life surrounded like you basically

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give up everything else and everything is just

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wine. And so is that different than the sommeliers

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you'll see at these fine restaurants? Yeah. So

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Court of Master, which I'm also going through.

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Court of Master is all about service and WCET

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is more about like the full array like you're

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learning about really deep diving into sake and

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bourbon and all that other stuff too once you

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get past the wine but the wine is the focus of

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Court of Master like it is just wine and you've

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got to know the other spirits and things like

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that because you've got to be able to serve at

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your restaurant but you are going there because

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you want to serve at a restaurant. I'm doing

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it because I like to, I never won awards when

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I was a kid. I was like super dyslexic, super

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ADHD. And I thought I was really dumb for a long

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time. And then I took an IQ test and found out

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that I wasn't. And that did help. But I think

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because of that lack of like awards, I want all

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the awards, all of them. Yeah. So if I could

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just have, you know, the degree and the court

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of master and the W set and the master of wine,

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and then I'll just be like, now I'm happy. So

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you listed all the things that you can do, but

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what do you, like where do you want to end up

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or do you know? So really there's a few options.

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I think when I like look at the future, I could

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see myself being like a wine buyer where I'm

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traveling around the world and I'm finding these

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people for them, you know, and creating these

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relationships with them. I could see myself owning

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a vineyard in Spain or in Napa. Those are my

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two favorite areas to be. And then, you know,

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the other thing is maybe writing about wine and

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like touring and educating people about wine.

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I do love teaching. So I don't know, but I don't

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know that I want to be a teacher. So I was, I

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pulled up, I asked AI to produce the levels of

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the levels of sommeliers and, you know, the court

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of masters for exam levels. But the levels include

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like introductory sommelier. certified sommelier

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advanced master sommelier level one wine course

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level two three and then level one wine award

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i don't know where that is anywhere in the spectrum

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have nothing but that's the way they're listed

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i would never have imagined there's that much

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intensity or i guess there is breath to this

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whole thing yeah the the failure rate of level

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four is fantastic it's super super stressful

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but it's that way with all of them So, I mean,

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whether you go W set or if you go any of these,

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they're just, it's just really challenging because

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you're literally, I mean, these people are devoting

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their entire life. Like I don't have friends

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anymore. My friends have all pretty much been

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like, you don't like us anymore. And I'm like,

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oh yeah, no, I just like wine more. Yeah. Well,

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they don't see me either, but it's okay. I have

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flashcards to keep me warm. So, so is it, so

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you're going to classes, but you're having to

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study a lot as well, I imagine, right? Yeah.

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Yeah. I have a friend, he's probably going to

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listen. Hi, Brian. It's my husband's best friend.

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I'd like to say only friend probably. Sorry,

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honey. I love you. Where are we going? I told

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you I had ADHD. What is it you said? I chased

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the squirrel. You said something. Jeff, you don't

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remember what you said either? I completely,

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yeah. I lost it as well. I'm not even drinking.

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talking about the levels of wine and you were

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oh oh oh yes Brian okay this is so he's gonna

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be so excited he was talked about until I say

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these words um so I love Brian but he was like

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yeah I've always wanted to become a sommelier

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as well I think I'm gonna do it and I was like

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oh okay I've never heard about this dream that

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you've always had until I just now heard it And

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he's like, yeah, no, totally always wanted to

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do it. And I was like, oh, okay, well, all right.

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And he's like, well, how often did you study?

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And I said, well, on the weekdays while I'm in

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school and with my, I also have three jobs. So,

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you know, I would study two hours every single

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day, which means I get less sleep because I also

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work out and I work. And then on the weekends,

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I spend another 10 hours studying. And he was

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like, oh, yeah, I thought it would be easier.

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You just can't go online and click a box? No.

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These aren't like continuing education ones for

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work. No, it's intense, it sounds like. There's

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a lot of work you've got to put into it. It's

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like becoming a doctor. You spend a lot of this

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money to realize. Well, kinesiology is no joke.

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Yeah, that probably would have been easier and

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cheaper. And without knowing that much about

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wine, and I know we're going to talk a lot about

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it tonight, but, I mean, my impression. of of

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you know so our journey through bourbon right

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a bourbon is a bourbon is a bourbon whiskey is

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a whiskey is a whiskey but we're finding out

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that not really right i mean there's a story

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behind every single bottle there's differences

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i mean the diversity and the and the variety

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um is there but i i don't think it's quite as

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diverse and quite as the variety as wine i think

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there's there's so many more grapes there's so

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many areas of the world. There's so many different

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climates and soil to focus on. And I'm sure we'll

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talk about this, but I think it's massively more

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diverse than the bourbon. Would you guys agree

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with that? I agree 100%. 100%. So that should

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be, that is an interesting difference. I feel

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like, I mean, in a way, yeah. But I mean, if

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you think about the grains that are put into

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bourbon and the soil and the climate is affecting

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it, the state is affecting it, how it's distilled

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or whatever is affecting it. I mean, you look

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at The distillery that we all went to very recently,

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when we were there, they distilled theirs differently

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than anybody I've ever seen. And I've been to

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a lot of distilleries. So it's just like every

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distillery I've been to is a little bit different.

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You're referring to the 1845 distillery. Yeah,

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that's right. Shout out to the Lowry Crossing.

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Yeah, you went to the two of us. Nicest people

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ever. They're so amazing. They really are. Bob

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June. Yeah. We need to go visit again. Did you

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see their release in a new double oak whiskey?

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Double oak whiskey. I'm on the need to know list.

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Well, do you read your emails? Come on. Actually,

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I do. Came out today. Oh, that's why. I actually

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had to work today. The Panhandle something or

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other. Yeah, I think I saw that title, but I

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haven't read it yet either. They've been talking

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for like a couple of weeks that it was going

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to come out. I'll buy that instantly. There it

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is right there. There it is. Hi. Panhandle Proud.

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Straight whiskey, double oaked. Yeah, I'm on

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it. Very nice. All right, we'll have to jump

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on that for sure. They didn't let us taste that

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during our stay. Well, that was the Texian, I

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think, when we were there with the Hungarian

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barrels. This one's different. It's got a different

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label and everything. Look at that. Yeah, it's

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nice. I'm going to squirrel it real quick. So

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did y 'all know that there is a beer company

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out there? And, oh, God, I should have looked

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at it. Eclipse. And they are making their beer

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in bourbon barrels. and they have one from the

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garrison brothers bourbon barrels like um it's

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it's pretty cool they're they're not they're

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not cheap i think they're a 50 50 brewing company

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yeah we we sell one of our things is we're trying

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to bring in a lot of craft beer and so that was

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one of the ones that it just like I think it's

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like $25 or something, but I'm like, totally

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worth it. For one bottle? Oh, yeah. Yeah, it

00:17:48.430 --> 00:17:51.970
is 12 .5 % alcohol. Oh, God, boy. There was a

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time where Jeff and I would have dove headfirst

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in to get that bottle. I mean, but it's like,

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you know. But it's a big bottle. Yeah, it's not

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this big. It's about 16 ounces. Look at that,

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man. For $25 for a 16 -ounce bottle? You know,

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I'd be willing to try one of those. It's not

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outside my league. Are there breweries out there

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in Lowry Crossing? No, no, no, no. Sorry, I said

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squirrel. This is my squirrel. That's from California.

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Truckee. Yeah, but I thought it was cool that

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they're using Garrison Brothers, like they were

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on the map. Well, Texas is on the map for that.

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You know, Texas has taken quite the lead. I think

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it's, well, not the lead, but it's definitely

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nudging its way. It is. Neck to neck with. Jumped

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on the scene, no question about it. Oh, God bless.

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I mean, we're putting out some fantastic whiskeys

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and bourbons. Well, and I think it's on climate.

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Our climate is very advantageous because we can

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age much faster than they do in Kentucky. Correct.

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What's our strategy, Ty? Heather Liner, check

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her out on her Instagram and FB. Look up that.

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Facebook. Instagram and Facebook. ThatSom from

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Texas. ThatSom, S -O -M -M, from TX. So check

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Heather Liner's stuff out there, and she'll get

00:19:01.140 --> 00:19:04.079
you lined up with some fantastic. products gotcha

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all right all right so let's let's yeah let's

00:19:06.119 --> 00:19:08.539
crack into one of these things and let's uh let's

00:19:08.539 --> 00:19:12.140
start discussing okay uh wines and yeah pretend

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we're stupid grapes and absolute novices and

00:19:16.160 --> 00:19:18.519
we need to know just about everything okay but

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we've got three right so talk about the general

00:19:21.380 --> 00:19:23.940
strategy for tonight okay so i figured i just

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kind of gave y 'all some facts about wine and

00:19:27.309 --> 00:19:29.849
in the united states um and i thought if i'm

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gonna feature wine in the united states while

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we are in texas and if anybody knows texans we're

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like very proud of everything we do we always

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think it's the best but i wanted to focus on

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the three biggest abas of the united states so

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that's going to be california and washington

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and oregon so we're going to start off with a

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um do you want me to just introduce the one yeah

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just the one right now and i'll just pass it

00:19:54.059 --> 00:19:57.799
around? Well, actually, yeah, we can pass it

00:19:57.799 --> 00:19:59.700
around. I'll put my cup over there. Oh, yeah,

00:19:59.700 --> 00:20:00.980
why don't we just put the glasses over there?

00:20:01.039 --> 00:20:02.299
Wouldn't that be easier? That would be easier.

00:20:02.400 --> 00:20:03.799
Then I'd just pass y 'all the glasses. Because

00:20:03.799 --> 00:20:06.059
that way we don't have inequity and fighting.

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Chuck, I put your glass over here. Chuck's like,

00:20:08.200 --> 00:20:11.000
hey, man. Because I could see Sean overpouring

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himself on purpose. Oh, yeah, I'd stick a straw

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in it. Okay, so this is Crossport Creek. It is

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a Merlot. I don't drink a lot of Merlots. I'm

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going to start us off small like I would if I

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was doing a really very nice pour of a tasting

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in a tasting room. That's perfect. Oh, no. I

00:20:26.779 --> 00:20:28.799
can't do it from here. There's a microphone in

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my face. I'm going to need a napkin. I'll tell

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you what, I can fill up some of the fill if you

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need to step away from the microphone. I'm like,

00:20:37.099 --> 00:20:39.960
oh my God, I can't do this. They don't test you

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this. When you're going through your testing,

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you don't learn how to talk with the microphone

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in your face. Yeah, no, so this is going to be

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from Yakima. This is going to be from the Washington

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wine. So a lot of people are familiar with Oregon.

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Just take one down, pass it around. Let me not

00:21:01.210 --> 00:21:04.589
tell anything else. Okay. So is there a particular

00:21:04.589 --> 00:21:07.329
area of Washington? Like, are we talking northeast?

00:21:07.569 --> 00:21:11.410
Does it matter? So with Washington, just in general,

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like... So it's an interesting area because they

00:21:15.480 --> 00:21:17.400
don't grow the grapes everywhere. So like in,

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and I suppose that's pretty normal for most places

00:21:20.920 --> 00:21:23.119
minus like California that's like, hey, a grape

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will grow here. Let's grow it, you know. But

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they've got like the predominant area is going

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to be like in the very southern area. And then

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they've got some over to the western side. And

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like, so it's just like a lot of land that they

00:21:35.440 --> 00:21:38.079
don't grow anything. And then they have the places

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that they do, the places that they're going to

00:21:39.720 --> 00:21:42.359
thrive the most. Grapes like cold and they like

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dry. They don't really like wet climates. Okay.

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I always like throwing this word in because it

00:21:47.279 --> 00:21:50.960
bothers people. Moist. No, we love that word.

00:21:51.059 --> 00:21:52.779
We try to work it in at least three times. We

00:21:52.779 --> 00:21:56.160
say it a lot on this podcast. Ding! Music is

00:21:56.160 --> 00:21:58.579
a Sean. Every time it's the word, the angel gets

00:21:58.579 --> 00:22:01.960
its wings. Right, yeah. Well, what I found interesting

00:22:01.960 --> 00:22:04.700
about this is, you know, I try to pick a low

00:22:04.700 --> 00:22:07.819
-cost wine, a mid -priced wine, and then a higher

00:22:07.819 --> 00:22:10.720
-end wine. So this is a lower -priced wine, but

00:22:10.720 --> 00:22:13.460
it drinks really well. Yeah, there you go. There

00:22:13.460 --> 00:22:16.799
it is. You've got a map pulled up of what looks

00:22:16.799 --> 00:22:18.579
like the moor. And you'll see how moist it's

00:22:18.579 --> 00:22:21.359
not. It looks pretty arid. I've got a question

00:22:21.359 --> 00:22:26.059
regarding the grape. So I know there are all

00:22:26.059 --> 00:22:29.599
kinds of grapes out there. How many grapes are

00:22:29.599 --> 00:22:33.849
in this one? You know, OK, so there's not a lot

00:22:33.849 --> 00:22:35.869
of tasting notes on this guy. We're going to

00:22:35.869 --> 00:22:38.069
say for all intents and purposes, it's going

00:22:38.069 --> 00:22:40.509
to be at least 75 percent Merlot because it has

00:22:40.509 --> 00:22:43.650
to be to have that on the title. But we don't

00:22:43.650 --> 00:22:46.210
know. Honestly, I'm going to go with mostly Merlot.

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I mean, I don't know. Like Bordeaux has seven

00:22:48.730 --> 00:22:51.960
grapes in it. Yeah. Yeah. Depending on where,

00:22:52.000 --> 00:22:54.380
depending on where you are is like how many grapes

00:22:54.380 --> 00:22:56.460
you can have and what grapes you can use. And

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they're one of the more definitely harder places.

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The other hardest one is pre -rot. which is my

00:23:03.039 --> 00:23:05.259
favorite region. That's in Spain. This is terrific,

00:23:05.339 --> 00:23:07.819
by the way. Yeah, right? It's like 20 -something

00:23:07.819 --> 00:23:10.740
dollars. You're supposed to wait. No, no, no.

00:23:10.940 --> 00:23:12.299
Y 'all tell me what you think. I want y 'all

00:23:12.299 --> 00:23:13.839
to tell me what y 'all taste. I want to hear

00:23:13.839 --> 00:23:16.039
it from bourbon drinkers. What do you taste?

00:23:16.359 --> 00:23:20.059
Are we doing the nose and the palate and the

00:23:20.059 --> 00:23:23.960
finish? Do whatever comes naturally to you. Whatever

00:23:23.960 --> 00:23:26.039
comes naturally to you. I'm going to dip my mustache

00:23:26.039 --> 00:23:30.720
in it. No, I'm not going to do that. $27. That's

00:23:30.720 --> 00:23:33.410
how much it cost. Tell me what you're smelling,

00:23:33.529 --> 00:23:36.829
what you're thinking, what you're tasting. I

00:23:36.829 --> 00:23:42.029
taste red wine. It smells like red wine. Is this

00:23:42.029 --> 00:23:46.589
a black currant, maybe? Currant? Like ocean currant?

00:23:47.150 --> 00:23:49.950
Yeah, ocean currant. Just like that. No different.

00:23:50.190 --> 00:23:56.890
Very salty. It's aged with ocean water. What

00:23:56.890 --> 00:23:59.509
do y 'all think? It's okay if you don't like

00:23:59.509 --> 00:24:02.839
wine. Try one and you don't like it. That's the

00:24:02.839 --> 00:24:04.839
beauty of wine is that some people will like

00:24:04.839 --> 00:24:06.660
it and some people won't. What I like about this

00:24:06.660 --> 00:24:10.500
Merlot is it's very easy to drink. It's super

00:24:10.500 --> 00:24:14.420
easy. I think it's sweet and dry. It's one of

00:24:14.420 --> 00:24:16.640
those that's right in the middle, I think. I

00:24:16.640 --> 00:24:18.619
mean, I've had really sweet ones and then really

00:24:18.619 --> 00:24:22.279
dry ones. I think this one's leaning on the dry

00:24:22.279 --> 00:24:25.839
side, towards the middle on the dry side. I don't

00:24:25.839 --> 00:24:28.019
pick that up. I think there is some dryness,

00:24:28.079 --> 00:24:31.440
but I think it's more... I think it's right in

00:24:31.440 --> 00:24:34.960
the middle. For me, anyway. The finish is very

00:24:34.960 --> 00:24:39.000
short on it for me. I don't know about you guys.

00:24:39.420 --> 00:24:42.640
It goes away pretty quick. It does not smell

00:24:42.640 --> 00:24:45.680
or taste dry to me. It does taste... Are you

00:24:45.680 --> 00:24:49.079
smelling it through your semblance screen? No.

00:24:49.079 --> 00:24:50.880
He's smelling it through the one ear that's not

00:24:50.880 --> 00:24:54.380
working. That's right. And by the way, your sentence

00:24:54.380 --> 00:24:57.180
are heightened when one ear is bad and the other

00:24:57.180 --> 00:25:00.279
is good. Just so you know. So I'm actually superior

00:25:00.279 --> 00:25:03.700
in my analysis. Like a superhero trait. Right.

00:25:03.839 --> 00:25:06.900
So it's strange. I would have expected it to

00:25:06.900 --> 00:25:09.900
be a very, very powerful taste. And it tastes

00:25:09.900 --> 00:25:13.210
almost like a diluted. Almost diluted somewhat.

00:25:13.509 --> 00:25:15.549
I don't know how to describe that. So that's

00:25:15.549 --> 00:25:17.430
going to be the Merlot grape that you're tasting.

00:25:17.509 --> 00:25:22.609
So Merlots are not, they're considered silky,

00:25:22.609 --> 00:25:25.650
smooth, velvety. Silky is a good word. Yeah,

00:25:25.670 --> 00:25:28.930
nobody is like, oh my God, did you try that Merlot?

00:25:29.069 --> 00:25:31.529
I mean, it was just a banger. Nobody says that.

00:25:31.589 --> 00:25:34.009
Yeah, exactly. I was expecting kind of a, harsh

00:25:34.009 --> 00:25:36.089
is not the right word, but a powerful finish.

00:25:36.210 --> 00:25:39.329
Right, yeah. And it never happened. Yeah, she's

00:25:39.329 --> 00:25:41.170
just trying to be silky smooth. She's like, just,

00:25:41.190 --> 00:25:43.049
hey. Cuddle up with me, you know? If you want

00:25:43.049 --> 00:25:45.170
something easy to drink, you'd recommend Merlot,

00:25:45.309 --> 00:25:48.809
right? Yeah, Merlot's the easy girl. Interesting.

00:25:48.970 --> 00:25:51.349
I've never thought of my drink as an intimate

00:25:51.349 --> 00:25:56.170
experience. I'm tasting like blueberries, blackberries,

00:25:56.250 --> 00:25:59.650
something like the dark berry variety. I definitely

00:25:59.650 --> 00:26:01.910
picked it up on the nose. Lots of berries on

00:26:01.910 --> 00:26:04.369
the nose. I feel stupid saying this, because

00:26:04.369 --> 00:26:07.390
I don't drink wine. This is probably the second

00:26:07.390 --> 00:26:09.990
time in my life I've tried a Merlot, but I tasted

00:26:09.990 --> 00:26:12.750
green. I smelled grape juice. Yeah. So, I mean,

00:26:12.769 --> 00:26:14.170
that's kind of a stupid thing to say. I got a

00:26:14.170 --> 00:26:15.710
little. But, I mean, literally, if I was at the

00:26:15.710 --> 00:26:18.210
store. This is very Welch's. Right. If I were

00:26:18.210 --> 00:26:20.269
to smell that, I got some of that. Right. So,

00:26:20.269 --> 00:26:22.349
I mean, that's kind of a no -brainer, of course.

00:26:22.509 --> 00:26:25.809
Yeah. Yeah. But. I think one thing that I like

00:26:25.809 --> 00:26:28.569
about this is that you get, one of the things

00:26:28.569 --> 00:26:30.309
that I really enjoy about wines is when they

00:26:30.309 --> 00:26:32.109
start getting those, like, floral compounds.

00:26:32.190 --> 00:26:34.569
And this is almost like dried floral, dried violet.

00:26:35.400 --> 00:26:37.480
Almost like you're picking up, not like a potpourri

00:26:37.480 --> 00:26:39.940
and eating it, but just getting that hint of

00:26:39.940 --> 00:26:42.279
that dried violet. And girls probably know that

00:26:42.279 --> 00:26:44.420
more. Let me be a little sexist here. But we

00:26:44.420 --> 00:26:46.299
used to press our flowers. Somebody got us a

00:26:46.299 --> 00:26:48.559
flower. We pressed it in a book. And then when

00:26:48.559 --> 00:26:51.079
it dried up, we'd smell it. We'd be like, I remember

00:26:51.079 --> 00:26:53.740
this forever. You should see his journal. I know.

00:26:54.160 --> 00:26:56.480
Every time Paul or Jeff travel, because I don't

00:26:56.480 --> 00:26:58.339
travel as much because my wife has agoraphobia.

00:26:58.380 --> 00:27:00.299
So when they bring back flowers, I always press

00:27:00.299 --> 00:27:02.539
it. He presses them. We don't bring back flowers.

00:27:02.680 --> 00:27:05.470
You bring back flowers. and you frame them and

00:27:05.470 --> 00:27:07.470
hang them on your wall. When he talks about going

00:27:07.470 --> 00:27:09.369
on a trip, he's like, oh, that's a hibiscus trip.

00:27:09.410 --> 00:27:12.470
I'm actually, I'm tasting like, you said currant.

00:27:12.670 --> 00:27:15.829
Right. I taste like a little licorice kind of

00:27:15.829 --> 00:27:17.950
in there too. Yeah, and you're getting a little

00:27:17.950 --> 00:27:19.609
bit of chocolate as well. There's chocolate.

00:27:19.789 --> 00:27:22.049
It's not real strong. Vanilla even, just kind

00:27:22.049 --> 00:27:24.109
of piping in there. Yeah, when I say the currant,

00:27:24.130 --> 00:27:25.670
it's not real strong, but I think there's a hint

00:27:25.670 --> 00:27:27.650
of it in there. I'm sure when we get to some

00:27:27.650 --> 00:27:29.200
of these others, it's going to be stronger. I

00:27:29.200 --> 00:27:31.680
get a lot of caramel and vanilla and leather.

00:27:31.839 --> 00:27:33.980
There's none of that. Oh, wait, wait. Butterscotch.

00:27:34.259 --> 00:27:37.480
Sorry, I'm on cruise control. I will say like

00:27:37.480 --> 00:27:39.099
real quick, just because some of your listeners

00:27:39.099 --> 00:27:41.200
might not be wine drinkers. I know that'd be

00:27:41.200 --> 00:27:46.400
shocking. But so people will ask me, how do they

00:27:46.400 --> 00:27:48.079
get the fruit in there? How do they get the flour

00:27:48.079 --> 00:27:49.539
in there? How do they get the tobacco in there?

00:27:49.660 --> 00:27:52.910
And that's all soil and climate. You know, and

00:27:52.910 --> 00:27:55.109
in the environment, like the fires really added

00:27:55.109 --> 00:27:57.970
a really terrible taste to the wines that were

00:27:57.970 --> 00:27:59.829
made that year that weren't harvested beforehand.

00:28:00.710 --> 00:28:03.470
But they were not added to the wine. Like it's

00:28:03.470 --> 00:28:05.950
that's just its natural flavor that it gets.

00:28:06.230 --> 00:28:09.589
So, I mean, like bourbon, they char the barrels.

00:28:09.690 --> 00:28:12.450
I mean, what do they is wine put in like these

00:28:12.450 --> 00:28:17.589
metal casks or are they in barrels as well? 1845,

00:28:17.769 --> 00:28:19.369
they have these large vats. Would it be painful

00:28:19.369 --> 00:28:21.549
to go through a quick overview of the whole process

00:28:21.549 --> 00:28:26.529
of wine making? Without going into major detail.

00:28:26.650 --> 00:28:28.190
Give us a highlight. Give us the cliff notes.

00:28:28.210 --> 00:28:31.150
Okay, let's say red or white wine. I mean, if

00:28:31.150 --> 00:28:33.470
we just dumb it down and we just leave out sparkling

00:28:33.470 --> 00:28:35.809
entirely. The best way I could say that you do

00:28:35.809 --> 00:28:38.549
it is you're taking these grapes from the vineyard.

00:28:38.609 --> 00:28:41.650
Sure. You are bringing them and immediately that

00:28:41.650 --> 00:28:44.150
day sorting. Can we hit pause? Yeah. You're taking

00:28:44.150 --> 00:28:46.680
them from the vineyard. At what point? Do we

00:28:46.680 --> 00:28:49.559
get to frolic and step and smash the grapes with

00:28:49.559 --> 00:28:51.799
our bare feet? I was going to talk about your

00:28:51.799 --> 00:28:53.900
feet here in a second. I was getting there. Oh,

00:28:53.900 --> 00:28:57.960
just the feet. Not a full naked experience? Okay,

00:28:57.980 --> 00:29:00.920
wow. It could be, I guess. I think it's in Austria

00:29:00.920 --> 00:29:03.079
where they all gather arms and they have this

00:29:03.079 --> 00:29:05.660
giant vat and they all walk across it and it's

00:29:05.660 --> 00:29:08.559
a whole day thing. They walk on it all day. There's

00:29:08.559 --> 00:29:10.960
a band that plays. There's food. It's a celebration,

00:29:11.160 --> 00:29:14.319
a massive celebration. It is, yes. Okay, so you

00:29:14.319 --> 00:29:17.509
get the grapes. They're in these ginormous, you

00:29:17.509 --> 00:29:20.710
know, ginormous, like, what is the word? Like

00:29:20.710 --> 00:29:22.650
the size of the trucks. What are they called?

00:29:22.690 --> 00:29:24.750
The semi. Like that size. Or you can get smaller

00:29:24.750 --> 00:29:27.130
ones. Okay. The higher end ones usually use smaller

00:29:27.130 --> 00:29:28.769
ones. And the reason is you don't want your grapes

00:29:28.769 --> 00:29:31.809
crushed. So. Okay. Now you got to get it to the

00:29:31.809 --> 00:29:34.049
sorting table. Plops down on the sorting table

00:29:34.049 --> 00:29:35.750
and you've got like four people up there and

00:29:35.750 --> 00:29:37.589
they're just grabbing crap, right? They're grabbing.

00:29:38.420 --> 00:29:41.319
hopefully, just leaves and branches, but sometimes

00:29:41.319 --> 00:29:44.700
lizards, snakes, birds, bats, bracelets, whatever.

00:29:45.019 --> 00:29:48.619
The bracelet was the funny one. Anyways, it's

00:29:48.619 --> 00:29:52.799
a whole other story. I've pulled out a lizard

00:29:52.799 --> 00:29:55.400
and I've pulled out a bracelet. Well, they do

00:29:55.400 --> 00:30:00.259
have filters. Yeah. Sure. Yeah. I mean, they

00:30:00.259 --> 00:30:02.700
got the whole grape filter out. Have you lost

00:30:02.700 --> 00:30:04.160
a grape there? Is that what you get? Or I'm sorry,

00:30:04.240 --> 00:30:06.140
a bracelet or one of your friends? No, it was

00:30:06.140 --> 00:30:07.880
probably one of the workers out in the field.

00:30:08.339 --> 00:30:10.160
It's like going to a restaurant and ordering

00:30:10.160 --> 00:30:12.980
a salad and toss the Caesar salad and it shows

00:30:12.980 --> 00:30:14.700
up with a ring and they're like, how'd that get

00:30:14.700 --> 00:30:16.779
in there? Or a bandaid. I think it's a little

00:30:16.779 --> 00:30:18.359
bit easier to understand. And Nancy Pelosi comes

00:30:18.359 --> 00:30:19.779
out of the kitchen. She's like, hey, where's

00:30:19.779 --> 00:30:22.700
my ring? I think, okay. So if you imagine like

00:30:22.700 --> 00:30:24.460
if you're a field worker, you're getting paid

00:30:24.460 --> 00:30:26.740
by how much you can produce, right? Oh, yeah.

00:30:26.859 --> 00:30:29.980
So you've got like these like crazy shears that

00:30:29.980 --> 00:30:32.140
could like cut a kid's bones open. I don't know

00:30:32.140 --> 00:30:34.319
why I had to be a kid, but they look better than

00:30:34.319 --> 00:30:36.460
them. I don't know. Anyways, they're out there

00:30:36.460 --> 00:30:38.579
cutting the grapes and just think like it snaps

00:30:38.579 --> 00:30:41.559
the bracelet, you know, just barely. Yeah, just

00:30:41.559 --> 00:30:43.180
barely. And they're going a million miles a second.

00:30:43.240 --> 00:30:44.700
Yeah, they don't even notice they lost their

00:30:44.700 --> 00:30:45.839
bracelet by the time they figure out. A little

00:30:45.839 --> 00:30:47.539
friendship bracelet. They just completely lost

00:30:47.539 --> 00:30:49.559
it. Yeah, lost the friend too. You never know.

00:30:49.759 --> 00:30:51.779
Anyways, haven't pulled a person out yet. But

00:30:51.779 --> 00:30:53.259
anyway, so, okay, so they sort the grapes. Then

00:30:53.259 --> 00:30:55.220
the grapes go into a distimmer. The distimmer.

00:30:55.660 --> 00:30:57.660
Now we're assuming this is not being done by

00:30:57.660 --> 00:31:00.339
hand because that's a whole other process. So

00:31:00.339 --> 00:31:02.880
the distimmer is going and that's taking all

00:31:02.880 --> 00:31:04.960
the stems out. You're hoping the grapes are staying

00:31:04.960 --> 00:31:06.940
pretty much intact. And now they're going to

00:31:06.940 --> 00:31:10.799
dump them with these giant hoses and pumps into

00:31:10.799 --> 00:31:13.740
either stainless. Stainless steel is generally

00:31:13.740 --> 00:31:16.920
what's going to be used. Sometimes there's other

00:31:16.920 --> 00:31:18.920
things when they start the fermentation process.

00:31:18.980 --> 00:31:23.509
And that's when... All the magical numbers when

00:31:23.509 --> 00:31:25.569
they test it are all perfect. They're like, okay,

00:31:25.650 --> 00:31:28.369
it's ready. So if they're going to start doing

00:31:28.369 --> 00:31:30.829
the fermentation in something else, this is where

00:31:30.829 --> 00:31:32.029
they're going to move it. Maybe it's going to

00:31:32.029 --> 00:31:35.950
be a smaller stainless steel device, or it's

00:31:35.950 --> 00:31:38.849
going to be a ceramic egg, or it's going to be

00:31:38.849 --> 00:31:41.470
a barrel or whatever. But it's going to depend

00:31:41.470 --> 00:31:44.130
on what flavor they want. Perfect. Yeah. All

00:31:44.130 --> 00:31:45.569
right, so where you were, you were talking about

00:31:45.569 --> 00:31:48.130
it gets put into a smaller one or a barrel. Right,

00:31:48.130 --> 00:31:49.849
right. So we can pause, and then you can pick

00:31:49.849 --> 00:31:52.710
it up. Yeah, so it's getting, this is where the

00:31:52.710 --> 00:31:55.150
winemaker, part of the winemaker right now is,

00:31:55.309 --> 00:31:57.009
I mean, all of this is going to depend on the

00:31:57.009 --> 00:32:00.150
winemaker, but he's trying to taste his wine

00:32:00.150 --> 00:32:01.829
from this point, be like, how do I want to make

00:32:01.829 --> 00:32:04.869
this taste? And that's where it becomes a science,

00:32:04.910 --> 00:32:06.930
and he's got to start, if he's going to blend

00:32:06.930 --> 00:32:09.700
it, this is where it's done. here or it could

00:32:09.700 --> 00:32:11.819
be done at the very end after all the wines are

00:32:11.819 --> 00:32:13.799
made with their own grapes and then blended which

00:32:13.799 --> 00:32:17.640
is actually more common um in smaller production

00:32:17.640 --> 00:32:20.279
okay um and that's pretty much it then they ferment

00:32:20.279 --> 00:32:23.240
it and you know that's going to just depend on

00:32:23.240 --> 00:32:25.380
like the length of time for the fermentation

00:32:25.380 --> 00:32:27.099
is going to depend on the grape it's going to

00:32:27.099 --> 00:32:28.599
depend on the temperature and all this other

00:32:28.599 --> 00:32:30.839
stuff but i mean that's basically it you're you're

00:32:30.839 --> 00:32:34.250
doing a fermentation But you have to first start

00:32:34.250 --> 00:32:36.309
the process in these giant tanks. Don't you also

00:32:36.309 --> 00:32:39.009
ferment it to determine how sweet it is as well?

00:32:39.190 --> 00:32:41.690
The longer you ferment, the more of the sugars

00:32:41.690 --> 00:32:45.670
you take out? Yes and no. I mean, some grapes

00:32:45.670 --> 00:32:48.009
are going to just have more sugar anyways. But

00:32:48.009 --> 00:32:52.269
you can ferment without losing a ton of the sugar.

00:32:52.470 --> 00:32:55.549
I mean, you're going to lose the primary thing.

00:32:55.650 --> 00:32:58.190
The yeast goes in there and eats it, and that's

00:32:58.190 --> 00:33:02.940
what causes the alcohol to be created. But the

00:33:02.940 --> 00:33:08.039
process, like when it's done, you can, the sweetness

00:33:08.039 --> 00:33:09.619
level is going to depend on the winemaker. So

00:33:09.619 --> 00:33:13.380
does a drier wine have less sugar in it? Generally

00:33:13.380 --> 00:33:16.220
speaking, yes. Yeah. And I hear these people

00:33:16.220 --> 00:33:18.299
that are wanting like low sugar wines. And I'm

00:33:18.299 --> 00:33:20.619
like, well, I mean, most of your wines are low

00:33:20.619 --> 00:33:23.279
sugar. They're not really high in sugar unless

00:33:23.279 --> 00:33:25.160
you're drinking the ones that taste sweet. And

00:33:25.160 --> 00:33:26.779
if they taste sweet, then they've got sugar,

00:33:26.920 --> 00:33:29.700
you know, and some people think that they're.

00:33:30.029 --> 00:33:32.349
dry wine is sweet or that they're that their

00:33:32.349 --> 00:33:34.630
sweet wine is dry and it's it's just not but

00:33:34.630 --> 00:33:36.630
they don't they can't taste that right but for

00:33:36.630 --> 00:33:38.509
the most part you know if you're looking at like

00:33:38.509 --> 00:33:40.789
a glass of red wine you've got about a gram to

00:33:40.789 --> 00:33:44.289
three grams of sugar so all right so it's ultimately

00:33:44.289 --> 00:33:48.910
put into barrels yeah and aged well how the metal

00:33:48.910 --> 00:33:52.049
the metal cask right the big ones it ferments

00:33:52.049 --> 00:33:54.230
and then they put it into the the barrels because

00:33:54.230 --> 00:33:56.839
that were yeah and i've got I've got like live

00:33:56.839 --> 00:33:59.000
pictures of all of this, but obviously it'd be

00:33:59.000 --> 00:33:59.900
really hard. Are they like the big 55 -gallon,

00:33:59.900 --> 00:34:01.960
100 -gallon, or they're like bourbon and all

00:34:01.960 --> 00:34:04.180
styles? Yeah. Again, you're going in with all

00:34:04.180 --> 00:34:06.480
these things. There's the bariques. There's just

00:34:06.480 --> 00:34:09.780
all these different styles. Yeah. It really does.

00:34:09.900 --> 00:34:11.380
And that's what crafts the different flavors.

00:34:11.440 --> 00:34:13.440
Right. Everyone has their own little niche. Mm

00:34:13.440 --> 00:34:15.900
-hmm. Yeah. All right. Depending on, yeah. You

00:34:15.900 --> 00:34:20.139
went further than I was expecting, which is perfect.

00:34:20.239 --> 00:34:23.000
So we're going to embrace the hell out of that.

00:34:23.139 --> 00:34:26.659
So you chose this one. Yeah. What about this

00:34:26.659 --> 00:34:28.900
one? So why? Why this one? What's special about

00:34:28.900 --> 00:34:30.280
this? So I think a lot of people don't drink

00:34:30.280 --> 00:34:32.280
Merlot anymore. I think it was very popular in

00:34:32.280 --> 00:34:34.780
the 80s. I think it was really popular even in

00:34:34.780 --> 00:34:36.980
the 90s. I think that people kind of got away

00:34:36.980 --> 00:34:39.820
from it and Cab became king in Texas and we live

00:34:39.820 --> 00:34:41.980
in Texas. Cab became king in the US and people,

00:34:42.079 --> 00:34:43.659
you know, they wanted that. Merlot was my favorite,

00:34:43.800 --> 00:34:46.679
personally. Is it? Okay. My parents drank Merlot

00:34:46.679 --> 00:34:48.780
in the 80s. I remember that. Yeah, yeah. That

00:34:48.780 --> 00:34:50.800
was the first one I ever had was, I mean, well,

00:34:50.820 --> 00:34:52.539
Chianti's, but the first one I had that was not

00:34:52.539 --> 00:34:54.380
an Italian was going to be, it was a Merlot.

00:34:54.380 --> 00:34:58.719
low so um i was raised on on wine my family's

00:34:58.719 --> 00:35:01.800
italian so you basically drink wine or you weren't

00:35:01.800 --> 00:35:05.260
italian or you or you dehydrate yeah i mean there's

00:35:05.260 --> 00:35:08.239
only hey you know like back in the day they drink

00:35:08.239 --> 00:35:11.539
the wine they did that back in the day when the

00:35:11.539 --> 00:35:13.659
the plague was going around because it was clean

00:35:13.659 --> 00:35:15.860
so they drink a lot of wine yeah that's what

00:35:15.860 --> 00:35:17.940
it was a lot of the waters you couldn't drink

00:35:17.940 --> 00:35:20.340
i mean they could go you go down the river you

00:35:20.340 --> 00:35:22.639
have to pass Clean it up. Why do you think I

00:35:22.639 --> 00:35:25.579
drank a shitload of bourbon during COVID? It's

00:35:25.579 --> 00:35:28.780
the same philosophy. Just drown it out. No, I

00:35:28.780 --> 00:35:32.159
mean, the water was tainted, wasn't it? Anywho.

00:35:32.320 --> 00:35:34.400
All right, never mind. So this, are we going

00:35:34.400 --> 00:35:36.920
to rate this? We don't have a wine. Gosh, I don't

00:35:36.920 --> 00:35:39.670
know how to rate this. On a scale of one to dinosaur,

00:35:39.829 --> 00:35:42.050
what do you think? Let's just go pterodactyl.

00:35:42.070 --> 00:35:44.369
How about excellent, good? For the podcast, what

00:35:44.369 --> 00:35:45.969
we normally do, which we're not going to do for

00:35:45.969 --> 00:35:48.090
this one, but what we normally do is we rate

00:35:48.090 --> 00:35:51.269
the whiskeys that we sample, and then we write

00:35:51.269 --> 00:35:53.150
it down in a little book somewhere. And then

00:35:53.150 --> 00:35:56.949
when we cross that path again, we kind of figure

00:35:56.949 --> 00:35:59.050
out what's the variance between our two ratings.

00:35:59.230 --> 00:36:01.449
But for this one right here. Why don't we go

00:36:01.449 --> 00:36:04.230
with very good, good, mediocre, or not for me?

00:36:04.510 --> 00:36:06.329
Yeah. Oh, there you go. I'll start it off. I'll

00:36:06.329 --> 00:36:08.469
say it's very good. I enjoyed it very much. Yeah.

00:36:08.590 --> 00:36:10.690
This was good. I'm going to go with good. I'm

00:36:10.690 --> 00:36:12.889
just going to go with good. Well, awesome. I'm

00:36:12.889 --> 00:36:15.769
glad that that could please y 'all. And Heather,

00:36:16.369 --> 00:36:18.949
what for you? 2022. Yeah. Heather, what for you?

00:36:18.989 --> 00:36:21.010
Would you say for you this was a very good or

00:36:21.010 --> 00:36:23.929
just a good? I think it was good. She was being

00:36:23.929 --> 00:36:28.030
nice. Chuck, you want to weigh in? Sure. I thought

00:36:28.030 --> 00:36:30.550
it was good. There you go. There we go. So we

00:36:30.550 --> 00:36:32.849
got three goods, a very good, and four goods.

00:36:33.230 --> 00:36:35.190
Sean said the Merlot was one of his favorites.

00:36:35.309 --> 00:36:38.869
I enjoyed it. I really enjoyed it. The drier

00:36:38.869 --> 00:36:40.989
the wine for me, the better. And the Merlot's

00:36:40.989 --> 00:36:42.510
got it. It's right in the sweet spot for me.

00:36:43.250 --> 00:36:45.730
What's drier than the Merlot? Is the Cabernet

00:36:45.730 --> 00:36:49.989
actually drier? It's going to depend on where

00:36:49.989 --> 00:36:53.469
it was made. So that's another. Matrix equation.

00:36:53.630 --> 00:36:56.130
It's never a simple question. So every winemaker

00:36:56.130 --> 00:36:59.130
uses a brixometer or some type of device. And

00:36:59.130 --> 00:37:01.010
in Europe, they use something else. And it measures

00:37:01.010 --> 00:37:04.849
the sugar and the sugar level of the grape when

00:37:04.849 --> 00:37:07.130
they harvest. And every winemaker has a different

00:37:07.130 --> 00:37:10.789
sugar level that they want to harvest at. And

00:37:10.789 --> 00:37:13.949
so long story short. Oh, so timing of harvest.

00:37:14.480 --> 00:37:17.760
Time is so important. How much sugar is in the

00:37:17.760 --> 00:37:19.699
grape? Yeah, because the hotter it gets, then

00:37:19.699 --> 00:37:22.860
the more the sun sets in, the sugar goes. Because

00:37:22.860 --> 00:37:24.440
think about like a raisin. If you eat a raisin

00:37:24.440 --> 00:37:26.760
versus a grape, the grape is juicy. It's nice

00:37:26.760 --> 00:37:29.420
and it's easy to eat. You eat a raisin, you're

00:37:29.420 --> 00:37:31.320
like, oh, that is some sweet shit right there.

00:37:31.460 --> 00:37:34.539
So the harvest season can fluctuate. Yes. That's

00:37:34.539 --> 00:37:36.860
interesting. Like dramatically. Yeah, and you've

00:37:36.860 --> 00:37:39.719
also got to avoid rain and frost. Like by how

00:37:39.719 --> 00:37:42.420
much can it, like if it's generally in October.

00:37:43.000 --> 00:37:45.940
Can it be as early as July and as late as December?

00:37:46.619 --> 00:37:50.360
Now it can. It used to not vary a ton, but in

00:37:50.360 --> 00:37:52.519
the past few years, there's been a lot of people

00:37:52.519 --> 00:37:54.880
in the industry that are super worried because

00:37:54.880 --> 00:37:58.579
the climate's changing so much that it's like

00:37:58.579 --> 00:38:02.599
you can't. It's, you know, like both when I was

00:38:02.599 --> 00:38:06.059
in Napa and when I was in Priorat, both times,

00:38:06.159 --> 00:38:09.900
oh, and in Corponaut. there was a rain that came

00:38:09.900 --> 00:38:13.039
right before a harvest and it, it, that's not

00:38:13.039 --> 00:38:15.840
good. I mean, you think moist grapes, not good

00:38:15.840 --> 00:38:17.480
when they're moist on the outside, they start

00:38:17.480 --> 00:38:19.659
to rot. Is that where Keanu Reeves comes out

00:38:19.659 --> 00:38:22.739
of the woodwork and little butterfly things that

00:38:22.739 --> 00:38:27.219
starts cooling? Yes. Walk in the clouds. I haven't

00:38:27.219 --> 00:38:29.960
seen it. I have not seen it. No. Oh, it's a fantastic

00:38:29.960 --> 00:38:33.159
movie. Okay. Well, I mean, my, my, um, my fourth

00:38:33.159 --> 00:38:36.719
born, um, son, he said that, uh, Keanu Reeves

00:38:36.719 --> 00:38:38.719
is his dad. And I'm like, I, I think I would

00:38:38.719 --> 00:38:41.360
have remembered that. There you go. Up on the

00:38:41.360 --> 00:38:45.239
thing. There you go. Wow, he looks like a baby.

00:38:45.400 --> 00:38:48.420
He does. Shortly after Bill and Ted's Excellent

00:38:48.420 --> 00:38:52.739
Adventure. Far out, dude. Let me go get so crates.

00:38:53.000 --> 00:38:55.420
Being so into wine, you definitely should see

00:38:55.420 --> 00:38:57.199
this because it's got a huge wine element to

00:38:57.199 --> 00:38:59.420
it. Oh, does it? It's about vineyards. It's a

00:38:59.420 --> 00:39:03.920
romantic drama. Essentially, he meets this woman.

00:39:04.349 --> 00:39:08.210
And her family has a vineyard and they've got

00:39:08.210 --> 00:39:10.789
this morsel. The whole thing's dying off and

00:39:10.789 --> 00:39:12.570
they don't know what's going on. They figure

00:39:12.570 --> 00:39:14.710
it out and they were like, oh, we only have one

00:39:14.710 --> 00:39:17.789
more field or one more. Yeah, one more field.

00:39:17.789 --> 00:39:20.449
Did he turn into a butterfly? No, no. What it

00:39:20.449 --> 00:39:23.590
is is that there's some sort of a frost or something

00:39:23.590 --> 00:39:25.789
that's happening. So they've got these big heaters

00:39:25.789 --> 00:39:30.409
out there and they all have these. wings that

00:39:30.409 --> 00:39:33.190
they put on their arms and they're feigning the

00:39:33.190 --> 00:39:35.849
vineyards to keep them warm. Distributing the

00:39:35.849 --> 00:39:38.769
heat. So that was the thing. It was a great movie.

00:39:38.849 --> 00:39:43.789
I enjoyed it. Kind of like what is the Whitney

00:39:43.789 --> 00:39:48.469
Houston in The Bodyguard. I haven't seen that

00:39:48.469 --> 00:39:51.849
movie either. Who are you? I don't know. I don't

00:39:51.849 --> 00:39:53.309
remember a vineyard in The Bodyguard either.

00:39:53.309 --> 00:39:55.469
I'm mad enough to be into chick flicks. It's

00:39:55.469 --> 00:39:57.510
a great movie. The Bodyguard. Yeah, The Bodyguard's

00:39:57.510 --> 00:39:59.449
good. Kevin Costner? Kevin Costner, yeah. Okay.

00:40:00.750 --> 00:40:02.630
I haven't seen it. Do you see how we deviate?

00:40:03.989 --> 00:40:06.869
All right. All right, so you - Seven kids. Yeah.

00:40:07.070 --> 00:40:08.730
She's just like, really? I got time for a movie?

00:40:08.849 --> 00:40:10.949
I study a lot. So I had asked you, why did you

00:40:10.949 --> 00:40:13.840
choose this one? Okay, so Crossport Creek, the

00:40:13.840 --> 00:40:16.199
cool thing about this Merlot is it's affordably

00:40:16.199 --> 00:40:17.760
priced. I mean, not everybody's going to pay

00:40:17.760 --> 00:40:20.820
$30 for a table wine, but for me, that's an inexpensive

00:40:20.820 --> 00:40:25.619
table wine. What are we laughing at? I'm thinking

00:40:25.619 --> 00:40:29.539
about you and your reaction. we're doing our

00:40:29.539 --> 00:40:32.099
thing and you're just like, you're like, can

00:40:32.099 --> 00:40:35.699
you get this uncomfortable laugh? Can you guys

00:40:35.699 --> 00:40:37.260
stop talking now? Now I'm just thinking about

00:40:37.260 --> 00:40:39.019
how many of my friends are going to judge me

00:40:39.019 --> 00:40:42.019
for not seeing these movies. Like, I love Whitney

00:40:42.019 --> 00:40:44.219
Houston. I'll sing her songs. Well, not well,

00:40:44.460 --> 00:40:46.719
but I'll sing them. That's challenge accepted.

00:40:47.019 --> 00:40:50.119
No, I have a deep voice. I sing deep songs. No,

00:40:50.219 --> 00:40:54.840
but okay. So anyways, but yeah. I like... Hey,

00:40:54.920 --> 00:41:00.219
Murray. Not quite that deep. I like it because

00:41:00.219 --> 00:41:01.699
it's got a little spice to it. It's got a little

00:41:01.699 --> 00:41:03.380
violet to it and it's affordable. That's why

00:41:03.380 --> 00:41:04.860
I like it. We got to jump on the next one because

00:41:04.860 --> 00:41:08.000
we're going to TikTok it. Nicholas J right here.

00:41:08.039 --> 00:41:10.900
This is a Pinot Noir 2022. This is from Willamette.

00:41:11.360 --> 00:41:14.139
Damn it. And I'm just going to pass the bottle

00:41:14.139 --> 00:41:16.260
because clearly with the microphone in my face,

00:41:16.380 --> 00:41:19.179
I can't pour wine. You can briefly step away

00:41:19.179 --> 00:41:21.980
from the microphone. You got to watch out for

00:41:21.980 --> 00:41:26.920
Sean. So this one's called negligee. See, there's

00:41:26.920 --> 00:41:30.219
my hearing. It's not my fault. It's not my fault.

00:41:31.199 --> 00:41:34.019
I do have some information. So this one, this

00:41:34.019 --> 00:41:37.860
one's a really cool one because it, so as the

00:41:37.860 --> 00:41:41.559
price point goes up, people that I won't, that

00:41:41.559 --> 00:41:43.719
matter to the wine industry, drink these wines,

00:41:43.860 --> 00:41:46.420
rate them, talk about them. It's harder to get

00:41:46.420 --> 00:41:48.219
those kind of notes, those same kind of things

00:41:48.219 --> 00:41:51.539
from the less expensive wines because, you know,

00:41:51.559 --> 00:41:54.760
Jeb Dunick and, and all these people, they don't

00:41:54.760 --> 00:41:56.619
want to go out there and be like, Hey, I rated

00:41:56.619 --> 00:41:59.760
this $20 wine. I rated this $10 wine. And no,

00:41:59.860 --> 00:42:01.559
they want to rate the really high end wines,

00:42:01.599 --> 00:42:03.880
you know? So, I mean, that's what I would do.

00:42:04.000 --> 00:42:06.119
I mean, I'm not, I'm not crazy. So yeah, when

00:42:06.119 --> 00:42:09.199
I have friends that drink wine and I want to

00:42:09.199 --> 00:42:11.880
get like, a nice wine for them, and I've only

00:42:11.880 --> 00:42:13.519
done this like, you know, a handful, maybe a

00:42:13.519 --> 00:42:15.760
half dozen times, I'm usually getting the $20,

00:42:15.780 --> 00:42:18.760
$25 bottle. Yeah. So I've never even purchased

00:42:18.760 --> 00:42:20.840
a bottle that's in this range, so I certainly

00:42:20.840 --> 00:42:24.639
wouldn't know what the, you know, the pleasure

00:42:24.639 --> 00:42:27.739
of it. So we'll see. I'm excited. That smells

00:42:27.739 --> 00:42:29.820
good. Okay, what is this? Describe the bottle

00:42:29.820 --> 00:42:33.619
again. Okay, so this is the 2022 Pinot Noir.

00:42:34.199 --> 00:42:37.780
Called Nicholas J. Okay. And is from Willamette,

00:42:37.840 --> 00:42:40.519
which is how you pronounce that for anybody listening.

00:42:40.820 --> 00:42:44.000
Willamette. I was thinking Willamette. No, don't

00:42:44.000 --> 00:42:46.320
call it Willamette. I tell you what, every time

00:42:46.320 --> 00:42:50.360
I saw this, I thought it was Williamette. Yeah,

00:42:50.440 --> 00:42:53.880
it's common. Willamette. Like pasta Robles is

00:42:53.880 --> 00:42:58.139
not Robles. Yeah. It's Willamette -y. Let's just

00:42:58.139 --> 00:42:59.179
make it difficult. All right, this is Oregon.

00:42:59.480 --> 00:43:02.300
It is, yeah. All right, so we have a picture.

00:43:02.300 --> 00:43:05.179
We have a picture up in here. Yeah, I would go

00:43:05.179 --> 00:43:08.000
as far as to say that in Oregon, you're going

00:43:08.000 --> 00:43:10.139
to find more natural wines than you will anywhere

00:43:10.139 --> 00:43:13.019
else in the U .S. They are really proud of their

00:43:13.019 --> 00:43:15.420
natural wines. Especially Pinot. Those are big

00:43:15.420 --> 00:43:17.139
up in this region. Yeah, yeah. And I mean, it's

00:43:17.139 --> 00:43:19.599
like the perfect grape -growing region for Pinot.

00:43:19.599 --> 00:43:21.699
Pinot is very thin -skinned, and I always heard

00:43:21.699 --> 00:43:24.599
that, and I never really took it into account

00:43:24.599 --> 00:43:28.030
until... I was doing harvest this last year.

00:43:28.409 --> 00:43:31.070
And yeah, it was this last year because now it's

00:43:31.070 --> 00:43:34.309
been a year. We're getting older so fast. Anyways,

00:43:34.570 --> 00:43:38.110
sorry, bird, squirrel, what? Okay. Yeah. So the

00:43:38.110 --> 00:43:40.909
Cabernet grapes, they're very thick skinned.

00:43:40.909 --> 00:43:44.130
When you hear that, it really is. And then you

00:43:44.130 --> 00:43:47.190
get a Pinot Noir grape and you just barely touch

00:43:47.190 --> 00:43:49.659
it. It's like... You know, you're like, oh, wow,

00:43:49.780 --> 00:43:51.679
that's really different. I mean, even I felt

00:43:51.679 --> 00:43:53.480
like even the Chardonnay grapes, like some of

00:43:53.480 --> 00:43:56.199
them were tougher than the Pinot Noir. So it's

00:43:56.199 --> 00:43:58.099
just a finicky grape. It's a really hard one

00:43:58.099 --> 00:44:00.440
to grow. And I would say that the people that

00:44:00.440 --> 00:44:03.079
grow Pinot Noir have to really love it because

00:44:03.079 --> 00:44:05.800
it's the most challenging grape to grow. So I've

00:44:05.800 --> 00:44:08.840
never I've never heard of the thickness of the

00:44:08.840 --> 00:44:11.980
skin. OK, so I could definitely see how it impacts

00:44:11.980 --> 00:44:16.380
the fragility of it. Yeah. But does it affect?

00:44:16.940 --> 00:44:18.960
What else does it affect? The thickness of the

00:44:18.960 --> 00:44:21.400
skin. It's got to affect how much moisture gets

00:44:21.400 --> 00:44:23.300
into it and how much heat gets into it. Have

00:44:23.300 --> 00:44:26.139
you not seen the movie Sideways? No. I'm going

00:44:26.139 --> 00:44:28.440
to spread out a wine movie that's super weird.

00:44:28.920 --> 00:44:33.920
It can get sunburned really easily. Thin skin.

00:44:34.019 --> 00:44:36.539
Very thin. You think the sun starts to come down

00:44:36.539 --> 00:44:40.159
on it. Also, like thin skin, weather is going

00:44:40.159 --> 00:44:42.039
to get to it. Birds can get to it. Like anything,

00:44:42.199 --> 00:44:44.380
like you can look at it wrong and it just bursts

00:44:44.380 --> 00:44:46.559
open, you know. Very challenging to grow. It

00:44:46.559 --> 00:44:48.380
is. And then think about. In very limited areas.

00:44:48.559 --> 00:44:50.659
Right. And if you're sorting through these grapes

00:44:50.659 --> 00:44:52.599
and they're very thin skinned, you're having

00:44:52.599 --> 00:44:54.940
to be extremely delicate with them because they're

00:44:54.940 --> 00:44:57.500
like wanting to just burst open on the sorting

00:44:57.500 --> 00:45:00.920
table. Interesting. Yeah. Okay. So people have

00:45:00.920 --> 00:45:04.559
soft fingers working with this. Yeah. Yeah. It

00:45:04.559 --> 00:45:07.599
is true. After doing a harvest, your hands and

00:45:07.599 --> 00:45:10.719
clothes are definitely a different color. They're

00:45:10.719 --> 00:45:12.960
not the same. Well, I really enjoy this one.

00:45:13.059 --> 00:45:16.099
More so than the Merlot. There's some funk in

00:45:16.099 --> 00:45:19.940
the nose, some earthiness, dirt kind of a thing

00:45:19.940 --> 00:45:23.239
is what I'm picking up. Yeah, this one's really

00:45:23.239 --> 00:45:27.219
good. So the reason I picked this one is because

00:45:27.219 --> 00:45:29.000
this is... Oh, that's good. Yeah, I've got a

00:45:29.000 --> 00:45:30.920
couple of Pinot Noirs I really like. Cranberries.

00:45:31.239 --> 00:45:38.150
I was... I don't like Pinot Noir, but I love

00:45:38.150 --> 00:45:40.590
a good Pinot Noir. And there's a huge difference

00:45:40.590 --> 00:45:42.329
because there's a lot of good cabs. There is

00:45:42.329 --> 00:45:45.710
not a lot of good Pinot Noirs. And so I chose

00:45:45.710 --> 00:45:48.250
one from Willamette and some of mine are actually

00:45:48.250 --> 00:45:51.909
from Sonoma that I love as well. But yeah, I

00:45:51.909 --> 00:45:54.530
think it's good. What's the sticker price on

00:45:54.530 --> 00:45:58.869
this ish? Yeah. So this one, it is, I believe

00:45:58.869 --> 00:46:01.929
this one was the one that was $55. I think it's

00:46:01.929 --> 00:46:06.440
55. This is excellent. So let me ask a question.

00:46:06.579 --> 00:46:11.739
So other wines in this category, are they all

00:46:11.739 --> 00:46:14.400
generally the same price or dramatic differences

00:46:14.400 --> 00:46:16.619
in price like we would find in bourbon? Well,

00:46:16.699 --> 00:46:19.019
I'll tell you the number one selling Pinot Noir

00:46:19.019 --> 00:46:20.960
at every store I've worked at, which is all of

00:46:20.960 --> 00:46:27.489
two, has been Mayomi, which has... You know,

00:46:27.489 --> 00:46:29.489
you always try to be very kind. It's very sweet.

00:46:29.690 --> 00:46:31.510
It's like very sweet. Like if you're looking

00:46:31.510 --> 00:46:34.389
for a low sugar wine, it is not that. But I do

00:46:34.389 --> 00:46:36.030
feel like a really good Pinot Noir is going to

00:46:36.030 --> 00:46:38.170
be a drier wine. It's going to come off as more

00:46:38.170 --> 00:46:41.369
Burgundian in style, which, you know, when we

00:46:41.369 --> 00:46:43.489
talk about Burgundy France, that's it's they

00:46:43.489 --> 00:46:45.829
just produce drier wines. Americans are really

00:46:45.829 --> 00:46:48.590
into sugar, which makes sense if like we went

00:46:48.590 --> 00:46:50.449
down the rabbit hole of the history of wine.

00:46:50.530 --> 00:46:54.269
But this one is just I mean. Pinot Noir will

00:46:54.269 --> 00:46:56.750
pick up some funk. It will. And it's just because,

00:46:56.809 --> 00:47:00.590
you know, it's so susceptible to picking up so

00:47:00.590 --> 00:47:03.190
much more. If you have a good Pinot Noir, it

00:47:03.190 --> 00:47:05.590
means that you have worked with a great winemaker

00:47:05.590 --> 00:47:08.269
because they're not all great. And so I would

00:47:08.269 --> 00:47:11.090
say the price point for any Pinot Noir that I

00:47:11.090 --> 00:47:13.610
will drink starts at $50. I won't even drink

00:47:13.610 --> 00:47:15.170
one that's less. So I'm trying to understand

00:47:15.170 --> 00:47:18.150
the reason for the price difference, right? A

00:47:18.150 --> 00:47:19.650
lot of times it's just how proud they are of

00:47:19.650 --> 00:47:22.179
their wine. Right. It is what it is. I mean,

00:47:22.199 --> 00:47:23.960
if it's, you know, if they go through an extra

00:47:23.960 --> 00:47:27.260
process or they, if the grape is superior, I

00:47:27.260 --> 00:47:29.519
mean, it has to be all of those factor in, right?

00:47:29.579 --> 00:47:31.940
Yeah. I mean, you're losing so much of your harvest

00:47:31.940 --> 00:47:34.920
because it's so, you know, soft and it can dry

00:47:34.920 --> 00:47:37.179
up so easily. Like you'll go through and you'll

00:47:37.179 --> 00:47:39.559
have to throw away giant branches of them just

00:47:39.559 --> 00:47:42.119
because. They're just, they're dried out. So

00:47:42.119 --> 00:47:43.679
they're generally going to be more expensive

00:47:43.679 --> 00:47:45.699
just because of that. Yeah, yeah. Because when

00:47:45.699 --> 00:47:47.500
you get an expensive Cabernet, it's because they're

00:47:47.500 --> 00:47:50.119
proud of making it. But a Pinot Noir, it's expensive

00:47:50.119 --> 00:47:52.619
because they've put so much more time into it.

00:47:52.719 --> 00:47:59.559
So this has a very interesting, slight sour taste

00:47:59.559 --> 00:48:03.059
to me. Now, I mean, sour is not - Tart, it's

00:48:03.059 --> 00:48:05.340
a tart. Tart, that's the better word. And it's

00:48:05.340 --> 00:48:06.920
interesting because it like completely dries

00:48:06.920 --> 00:48:09.579
out my tongue. Yeah, I love it. Despite not being

00:48:09.579 --> 00:48:12.559
dry, when I'm done drinking it, it's like my

00:48:12.559 --> 00:48:15.159
tongue is completely... It's like an argument

00:48:15.159 --> 00:48:18.300
between cherries and plums. It's like going back

00:48:18.300 --> 00:48:21.280
and forth. Yeah, I'm picking up some cherries.

00:48:21.500 --> 00:48:25.380
Both cherries and plums on this. Yeah, I prefer

00:48:25.380 --> 00:48:28.800
this much, much more than the Merlot. Yeah, interesting.

00:48:28.980 --> 00:48:31.179
Love them both. This one, I love more. Yeah,

00:48:31.219 --> 00:48:35.239
I'm a big Pinot Noir fan. So this one is actually...

00:48:35.239 --> 00:48:38.849
Did you say Pinot? Pinot Noir. This one is actually

00:48:38.849 --> 00:48:41.050
unfiltered, and a lot of people don't like unfiltered

00:48:41.050 --> 00:48:42.570
wine, so I'm happy to hear that y 'all like it

00:48:42.570 --> 00:48:44.110
because I think they're fun. Oh, I love the chewiness.

00:48:44.289 --> 00:48:46.309
If it's unfiltered, we're probably going to like

00:48:46.309 --> 00:48:48.780
it. Yeah, yeah. I mean, y 'all are bourbon drinkers,

00:48:48.800 --> 00:48:50.760
so, you know, there's that. We have the Garris

00:48:50.760 --> 00:48:52.679
Brothers Cowboys. There's actually sticks and

00:48:52.679 --> 00:48:55.820
chunks. Oh, yeah. We pulled a tumbleweed out.

00:48:57.199 --> 00:48:58.940
Actually chew on it. And part of a bracelet.

00:48:58.940 --> 00:49:02.960
I was drinking the Balmoray last night. The Balmoray

00:49:02.960 --> 00:49:05.900
and I had a little run -in together so that I

00:49:05.900 --> 00:49:07.719
could take a hot bath and go to bed really quickly,

00:49:07.840 --> 00:49:09.900
and that does it for me. I got to tell you, for

00:49:09.900 --> 00:49:11.420
the record, I'm disappointed your husband couldn't

00:49:11.420 --> 00:49:13.300
make it. I was super excited about him joining

00:49:13.300 --> 00:49:15.360
on the second half. Yeah, we met him at the tour.

00:49:15.920 --> 00:49:17.579
Call him up. He's got 20 minutes to get here.

00:49:18.500 --> 00:49:21.420
He can't leave work. He's at work. That's why

00:49:21.420 --> 00:49:23.599
he can't leave. Ah, there you go. Look, here's

00:49:23.599 --> 00:49:25.059
a picture of him. It's like he's here. There

00:49:25.059 --> 00:49:29.599
he is. That's us in Napa. Okay, another question.

00:49:29.860 --> 00:49:33.760
Okay, yeah. The alcohol content. On this one,

00:49:33.920 --> 00:49:38.079
it is... I was not prepared for that question.

00:49:38.420 --> 00:49:39.800
Let me see if it's on. You can tell us anything.

00:49:40.219 --> 00:49:42.940
I can look on the bottle. No, really, my question

00:49:42.940 --> 00:49:45.679
is... Really, my question is, is there consistency

00:49:45.679 --> 00:49:50.519
in this category of wine? No. Not even that?

00:49:50.539 --> 00:49:52.139
Nothing. There's nothing consistent in Pinot

00:49:52.139 --> 00:49:55.699
Noir. 13 .5 % on this, which can be high for

00:49:55.699 --> 00:49:59.880
a Pinot. Okay. Yeah. No, this is what I would

00:49:59.880 --> 00:50:02.119
call a good Pinot. If I was working in a restaurant

00:50:02.119 --> 00:50:06.219
and you were asking for a great Pinot Noir, I

00:50:06.219 --> 00:50:08.480
wouldn't mind recommending this bottle. Sure.

00:50:09.699 --> 00:50:12.570
100%. I would drink this every day. This is a

00:50:12.570 --> 00:50:18.010
fantastic bottle to the point where I am super

00:50:18.010 --> 00:50:21.050
excited to dive into the third one. I haven't

00:50:21.050 --> 00:50:23.070
finished this one, but I'm like, this is excellent.

00:50:23.250 --> 00:50:25.789
We may finish this bottle today. I think we're

00:50:25.789 --> 00:50:27.949
going to finish all three, actually. Going back

00:50:27.949 --> 00:50:31.369
to proof, we're obsessed with proof in the bourbon

00:50:31.369 --> 00:50:34.269
world. We don't want to drink things less than...

00:50:34.269 --> 00:50:37.110
You don't really look at that at wine. Exactly.

00:50:37.530 --> 00:50:41.000
Why is that? You could have over... alcohol wine

00:50:41.000 --> 00:50:43.260
in my opinion where that's all you taste and

00:50:43.260 --> 00:50:45.599
you don't want to taste that in the wine interesting

00:50:45.599 --> 00:50:48.940
there's there's people that look for higher percentages

00:50:48.940 --> 00:50:51.320
of alcohol and wine and there's people that They

00:50:51.320 --> 00:50:52.699
don't care. They're just looking for a good wine.

00:50:52.820 --> 00:50:54.920
The majority of people that are looking for a

00:50:54.920 --> 00:50:56.820
higher percentage of alcohol, they're not like

00:50:56.820 --> 00:50:59.260
connoisseurs of wine. They're like, hey, I want

00:50:59.260 --> 00:51:01.079
to get messed up and I want a bottle of wine.

00:51:01.159 --> 00:51:02.659
What are you going to hand me? Like Mad Dog 2020.

00:51:03.659 --> 00:51:05.480
Well, but in the bourbon world, we're finding

00:51:05.480 --> 00:51:07.900
that the much higher proof bourbons are actually

00:51:07.900 --> 00:51:10.619
tastier. That's what I'm getting. And we're enjoying

00:51:10.619 --> 00:51:12.920
them, but that's not the case in wine. Yeah,

00:51:12.980 --> 00:51:15.739
and I don't like the higher proof. My husband

00:51:15.739 --> 00:51:18.900
does like the higher proof bourbon. Some of the

00:51:18.900 --> 00:51:22.269
wines, it depends. With the bourbon, for those

00:51:22.269 --> 00:51:24.869
wine drinkers out there that don't know, you

00:51:24.869 --> 00:51:27.489
don't drink it at the same rate. For the higher

00:51:27.489 --> 00:51:28.909
proof bourbons, you don't drink it at the same

00:51:28.909 --> 00:51:30.849
rate you drink the lower proof ones. You take

00:51:30.849 --> 00:51:35.590
smaller sips and you enjoy it longer. You don't

00:51:35.590 --> 00:51:38.349
do shots of it. You burn a hole in your, that's

00:51:38.349 --> 00:51:40.050
not enjoyable. Not even for people that like

00:51:40.050 --> 00:51:42.230
bourbons. It's not enjoyable to do a shot of

00:51:42.230 --> 00:51:46.730
140. cowboy or something not at all i mean jeff

00:51:46.730 --> 00:51:49.630
does it i will say that because my husband is

00:51:49.630 --> 00:51:52.010
gonna listen to this i drink my bourbon rather

00:51:52.010 --> 00:51:55.369
fast i don't shoot it i don't shoot it but i

00:51:55.369 --> 00:51:57.250
just sip it he'll look over and he's like damn

00:51:57.250 --> 00:51:59.210
where's your glass go and i'm like well i mean

00:51:59.210 --> 00:52:02.510
it's such a small glass it was it's gone well

00:52:02.510 --> 00:52:05.030
there's another thing you drink san pellegrino

00:52:05.030 --> 00:52:07.489
as we noted before the podcast i mean that typically

00:52:07.489 --> 00:52:11.199
what we do is we'll have a beer and a bourbon,

00:52:11.239 --> 00:52:14.099
or you have a side drink. Right. And I really

00:52:14.099 --> 00:52:16.360
enjoy, at the house I have San Pellegrino, so

00:52:16.360 --> 00:52:19.079
I enjoy pouring a nice, big, tall glass of bourbon.

00:52:19.760 --> 00:52:22.820
Oh, tall. In a pint. A pint of bourbon, well,

00:52:22.820 --> 00:52:25.019
yeah. Oh, my God. No, I've, of course not. Why

00:52:25.019 --> 00:52:27.159
were you like a leprechaun? Yeah, it was a little

00:52:27.159 --> 00:52:29.559
pint. It was a little pint. And there's some

00:52:29.559 --> 00:52:31.199
San Pellegrino on the side. Yeah, there you go.

00:52:31.300 --> 00:52:33.500
That's perfect for me, because you take a sip,

00:52:33.539 --> 00:52:36.400
and depending on how it goes down, because like

00:52:36.400 --> 00:52:42.230
wine, The longer it's open, it's able to get

00:52:42.230 --> 00:52:44.989
a little embellished and kind of absorb and oxidate

00:52:44.989 --> 00:52:49.250
a little bit and enjoy the climate. No, bourbon's

00:52:49.250 --> 00:52:51.269
the same way. Once you open a bottle of wine,

00:52:51.369 --> 00:52:53.329
what do you recommend on length to drink it?

00:52:53.789 --> 00:52:59.489
Yeah, so that's going to chug. Yes. If you don't

00:52:59.489 --> 00:53:01.849
finish it the first day. Is that right? Oh, okay.

00:53:01.989 --> 00:53:03.670
So I was too aggressive. Is that where you pump

00:53:03.670 --> 00:53:08.320
argon in there? I would say there's a few. Let's

00:53:08.320 --> 00:53:13.000
talk about the most inexpensive way to save wine

00:53:13.000 --> 00:53:14.500
is going to get one of those little air pumps

00:53:14.500 --> 00:53:16.079
and you just like pump it. It's like pulling

00:53:16.079 --> 00:53:18.860
the air out. You've got like three days, Max,

00:53:19.039 --> 00:53:21.920
I would say. People are keeping their wines.

00:53:23.579 --> 00:53:26.079
Every Thanksgiving. I love you, Elise, but my

00:53:26.079 --> 00:53:29.400
best friend, Elise. She will keep her wine like

00:53:29.400 --> 00:53:31.599
forever. And I'm like, I'm pretty sure it could

00:53:31.599 --> 00:53:33.360
get up and walk out of the room at this point.

00:53:33.420 --> 00:53:36.179
Like you should not do that. I mean, it's fermented

00:53:36.179 --> 00:53:39.500
and it's not that. Requires a microbial treatment.

00:53:39.619 --> 00:53:41.820
Right. The proof of it. You have three days,

00:53:41.860 --> 00:53:44.139
you said. Three days. And if it's white, I would

00:53:44.139 --> 00:53:47.380
say two. And if it's bubbly, drink, just drink

00:53:47.380 --> 00:53:49.860
it. Just go ahead and chug it. What about storing

00:53:49.860 --> 00:53:52.010
them? People talk about how they need to be stored

00:53:52.010 --> 00:53:54.369
with the wine touching the cork. Yeah, and that's

00:53:54.369 --> 00:53:56.389
a true thing. I mean, you know, you've been to

00:53:56.389 --> 00:53:58.449
these distilleries and you've seen how they treat

00:53:58.449 --> 00:54:00.570
the barrels, right? You've got to keep them moist.

00:54:00.769 --> 00:54:03.840
I love that word, moist. She said it twice. I

00:54:03.840 --> 00:54:06.599
think that's the third or fourth. I've been drinking

00:54:06.599 --> 00:54:10.400
this really high proof wine. Oh, is that what

00:54:10.400 --> 00:54:15.980
that's for? Oh my God. Is that out loud? It's

00:54:15.980 --> 00:54:20.239
okay. You want to store them on their sides and

00:54:20.239 --> 00:54:22.420
you want to keep them in some place that's not

00:54:22.420 --> 00:54:24.119
humid and you want to keep them in some place

00:54:24.119 --> 00:54:27.380
that's not bright. I tell everybody if you don't

00:54:27.380 --> 00:54:29.920
have... I've only met one person ever that had

00:54:29.920 --> 00:54:32.280
a humid pantry, so that's weird because I'm like,

00:54:32.320 --> 00:54:35.690
that's gross. Humid and moist. Yeah. not oh thank

00:54:35.690 --> 00:54:39.730
you there's my chipotle god bless um what you

00:54:39.730 --> 00:54:42.289
don't want to do is is put it into a room that

00:54:42.289 --> 00:54:45.070
that is that way so but yeah like a pantry is

00:54:45.070 --> 00:54:48.130
a great place i you know we we had a pantry and

00:54:48.130 --> 00:54:50.090
filled it with wine and then it moved into a

00:54:50.090 --> 00:54:51.909
fridge that filled with wine and now it's also

00:54:51.909 --> 00:54:53.989
overflowing into our room we have so many wine

00:54:53.989 --> 00:54:56.530
bottles and my husband calls me the hand slapper

00:54:56.530 --> 00:54:59.639
because i won't let him drink any of them He

00:54:59.639 --> 00:55:01.920
doesn't know how much they're worth or when they

00:55:01.920 --> 00:55:03.960
should be opened. I'm like, you can have the

00:55:03.960 --> 00:55:05.900
cheap wines that are hanging right here. But

00:55:05.900 --> 00:55:08.039
where do you store them? Do you have like a basement?

00:55:08.739 --> 00:55:10.800
Oh, no, I have children. I don't have money.

00:55:11.659 --> 00:55:14.639
Well, we don't either. She has a pantry full

00:55:14.639 --> 00:55:17.239
of wine. Well, that's the cheap wine. So there's

00:55:17.239 --> 00:55:20.260
a wine fridge. Oh, there you go. It's a vault.

00:55:21.000 --> 00:55:24.480
It's a closet that you converted? No, it's not

00:55:24.480 --> 00:55:28.230
a big one. It's like yay high. It's like, I got

00:55:28.230 --> 00:55:30.949
one downstairs. The size of like a child. Yeah,

00:55:31.090 --> 00:55:35.500
yeah. And so it holds, it holds. I don't even

00:55:35.500 --> 00:55:36.820
know how many bottles it holds, but I've shoved

00:55:36.820 --> 00:55:39.139
a lot in there. And then that's what she said.

00:55:39.480 --> 00:55:44.159
Um, so there is that kind of podcast. Oh my God.

00:55:44.199 --> 00:55:48.500
I've heard y 'all please. Also, have you not

00:55:48.500 --> 00:55:53.179
behavior? Have you not heard of Toro? You can

00:55:53.179 --> 00:55:55.820
get a car for super cheap on Toro. I'm just throwing

00:55:55.820 --> 00:55:58.659
that out there from the last podcast. Okay. Um,

00:55:58.780 --> 00:56:00.719
anyways, but it's okay. You won't have status.

00:56:02.440 --> 00:56:08.079
That's aimed at Sean. I'm going to hurt. Listen,

00:56:08.179 --> 00:56:10.760
Toro. Is Toro the better way to go? Toro, you're

00:56:10.760 --> 00:56:14.079
renting cars from people. Are you kidding me?

00:56:14.239 --> 00:56:17.159
Yeah, no. I had a BMW the whole entire time I

00:56:17.159 --> 00:56:19.599
was in Napa and I was paying $20 a day. I thought

00:56:19.599 --> 00:56:23.039
Toro was a lawnmower. Shut the front door. That's

00:56:23.039 --> 00:56:25.219
what the guy used for the Cybertruck. He brought

00:56:25.219 --> 00:56:28.460
up Toro. These are lawnmowers. What the hell

00:56:28.460 --> 00:56:31.280
is that? No, that's not it. That's a dango. You

00:56:31.280 --> 00:56:33.980
don't want the limited. No. She's driving a tractor.

00:56:33.980 --> 00:56:36.480
Put Turo car rental. I want to drive that, though.

00:56:36.559 --> 00:56:38.159
Isn't it like T -O -R -O? I have one more that

00:56:38.159 --> 00:56:41.099
is kick -ass. Yeah, that's it. Oh, Turo. Yes,

00:56:41.260 --> 00:56:45.460
Turo. Turo. Oh, my God. I'm texting. Turo. All

00:56:45.460 --> 00:56:47.559
right. Well, look. Look, this is good. I'll tell

00:56:47.559 --> 00:56:51.699
you what. I do like Hertz just because I do like

00:56:51.699 --> 00:56:55.440
people. They hurt your taint. I don't give a

00:56:55.440 --> 00:56:58.039
shit about Hertz. I don't care. But you know

00:56:58.039 --> 00:57:00.800
what I do care about? I care about people. And

00:57:00.800 --> 00:57:02.869
I like... Being around different types of people.

00:57:02.909 --> 00:57:05.869
So when I'm used to a service and I meet the

00:57:05.869 --> 00:57:08.889
people, I enjoy it. And I go back for that. We

00:57:08.889 --> 00:57:11.929
are the people. We are the children. No, keep

00:57:11.929 --> 00:57:15.409
going. It frustrates me. Like today, I tried

00:57:15.409 --> 00:57:17.769
to rent a car. And I was going to get it set

00:57:17.769 --> 00:57:20.309
up for Friday. And they were like, oh, guess

00:57:20.309 --> 00:57:22.809
what? We don't return cars on Saturdays anymore.

00:57:23.070 --> 00:57:26.909
So you want me to pay for Friday? And Saturday.

00:57:26.949 --> 00:57:28.750
Saturday, Sunday. Oh, yeah, because you're closed

00:57:28.750 --> 00:57:30.449
on Saturday. And then Monday. Because they're

00:57:30.449 --> 00:57:32.510
closed Saturday and Sunday, I have to either

00:57:32.510 --> 00:57:35.949
drop it off at the freaking airport. Oh, this

00:57:35.949 --> 00:57:38.110
is the one in Frisco. The one here in Frisco.

00:57:38.110 --> 00:57:39.730
You need to find a different outfit. You do.

00:57:39.929 --> 00:57:43.190
You should go to Turo. I mean, I am going to

00:57:43.190 --> 00:57:44.869
jump on in and find out what's going on with

00:57:44.869 --> 00:57:48.190
this. You may find a car here, this guy or person,

00:57:48.329 --> 00:57:50.670
that you rent this SUV and you just go to them

00:57:50.670 --> 00:57:53.139
every single time. As far as I'm concerned, I'm

00:57:53.139 --> 00:57:54.440
okay with it because I only need one type of

00:57:54.440 --> 00:57:56.599
car. Is this the one where you're renting it

00:57:56.599 --> 00:57:59.199
from a person? Yeah, but the thing is the prices

00:57:59.199 --> 00:58:02.059
look higher here. It is somebody's individual

00:58:02.059 --> 00:58:06.000
car, right? It is. $243 a day. That's a little

00:58:06.000 --> 00:58:10.679
crazy. We didn't pay that. Look for a seven person.

00:58:11.019 --> 00:58:15.559
Go down. Amen, sister. Oh, my God. If you scroll

00:58:15.559 --> 00:58:19.340
down, the prices get cheaper. So I drove a really

00:58:19.340 --> 00:58:22.019
old BMW, but it looked really nice, and I drove

00:58:22.019 --> 00:58:24.300
it all around Napa, and I paid $20 a day, and

00:58:24.300 --> 00:58:25.920
it's insured through them. How would you like

00:58:25.920 --> 00:58:28.519
to rent a 2006 black Jetta? Well, you know what

00:58:28.519 --> 00:58:31.610
happened is what she did. And she created a profile

00:58:31.610 --> 00:58:34.929
on Turo and she put one of her pictures on there.

00:58:35.210 --> 00:58:37.190
I want to rent from you. The guy's like, dude,

00:58:37.250 --> 00:58:39.010
I'll give you for 20 bucks a day. To be fair,

00:58:39.130 --> 00:58:41.510
my husband created the account. So I don't know.

00:58:41.849 --> 00:58:45.070
But he is a good looking guy. Come on. But, you

00:58:45.070 --> 00:58:47.309
know, you show up at the house wherever it's

00:58:47.309 --> 00:58:49.329
parked. Right. You show up at the house and they're

00:58:49.329 --> 00:58:50.989
like, open the door. Keys are in there. And you

00:58:50.989 --> 00:58:52.610
just like they'll tell you exactly where to find

00:58:52.610 --> 00:58:54.829
the keys. You take the keys and you drive off.

00:58:54.929 --> 00:58:56.630
And when you return it, you do the exact same

00:58:56.630 --> 00:58:58.869
thing. And then you are done. And somebody drives

00:58:58.869 --> 00:59:01.530
your car. What about insurance? And then they

00:59:01.530 --> 00:59:03.110
blow it up in front of the Trump. What about

00:59:03.110 --> 00:59:05.909
insurance? So it's through them, I think, but

00:59:05.909 --> 00:59:07.650
we have insurance, so I don't know. Maybe we

00:59:07.650 --> 00:59:08.969
just used our insurance. So you don't have to

00:59:08.969 --> 00:59:10.710
worry about insurance. I don't think so. I don't

00:59:10.710 --> 00:59:13.050
know. They do. Yeah, my car insurance covers

00:59:13.050 --> 00:59:15.610
rentals. Yeah, mine does too. What percentage

00:59:15.610 --> 00:59:19.329
are stolen? There have to be stolen. No, because

00:59:19.329 --> 00:59:22.369
that is stealing these. So you have to think

00:59:22.369 --> 00:59:24.809
as a business owner, if Turo is a business owner,

00:59:24.909 --> 00:59:26.690
they're not going to allow these people to just

00:59:26.690 --> 00:59:29.150
come in there with stolen cars like they're they're

00:59:29.150 --> 00:59:31.449
not going to do that. No, I mean, somebody. OK,

00:59:31.570 --> 00:59:33.750
are these these are individuals that are renting?

00:59:33.789 --> 00:59:35.349
Yeah. So let me give you an example. I have a

00:59:35.349 --> 00:59:39.510
friend that is going through a divorce and she

00:59:39.510 --> 00:59:41.869
wants to put her car on Turo on the days that

00:59:41.869 --> 00:59:44.369
she doesn't need to drive. Crazy. And she can

00:59:44.369 --> 00:59:47.199
pay her car off faster. So that she can use her

00:59:47.199 --> 00:59:49.739
bills for other things. So, like, I have a crazy,

00:59:49.760 --> 00:59:52.480
stupid, lifted Jeep with, like, I don't know,

00:59:52.579 --> 00:59:58.059
$27 ,000 worth of work. And if I rented that,

00:59:58.260 --> 01:00:00.400
like, people would pay a lot of money, right?

01:00:00.539 --> 01:00:02.699
But I don't trust anybody with her. I'd kill

01:00:02.699 --> 01:00:04.219
somebody if they messed them up. But, you know,

01:00:04.260 --> 01:00:06.659
like, people do that, you know? What's the car's

01:00:06.659 --> 01:00:08.239
name? Do you have a name? Her name is Poison

01:00:08.239 --> 01:00:10.460
Ivy, and she has custom plates. Yeah, she's sexy.

01:00:10.719 --> 01:00:13.920
Ooh. Poison Ivy. Nailed it. You are serious about

01:00:13.920 --> 01:00:16.000
your Jeep. I am very serious about her. She is

01:00:16.000 --> 01:00:17.739
my favorite child. I love you children. Well,

01:00:17.780 --> 01:00:19.639
if it's on Turo, we should be. Oh, you said it's

01:00:19.639 --> 01:00:22.860
not. I will not. Nobody's touching her. I could

01:00:22.860 --> 01:00:25.280
not personally rent my vehicles through Turo.

01:00:25.360 --> 01:00:27.280
Well, I mean, couldn't be anyways. But if I were,

01:00:27.380 --> 01:00:30.960
I still wouldn't because I'm too OCD and weird

01:00:30.960 --> 01:00:33.139
about things. Like when I get a rental car, I

01:00:33.139 --> 01:00:35.360
have to clean it myself. Yeah. I carry wet wipes

01:00:35.360 --> 01:00:37.900
and stuff with me. Actually, the people, they

01:00:37.900 --> 01:00:40.739
would love that. If it's their car. Yeah, they

01:00:40.739 --> 01:00:43.300
don't mind. I did that for the guy. I went and

01:00:43.300 --> 01:00:45.179
like literally detailed it at a little station,

01:00:45.460 --> 01:00:48.599
you know, like vacuuming. Yeah. Maybe I'll, look,

01:00:48.679 --> 01:00:50.559
maybe I'll create a relationship with one of

01:00:50.559 --> 01:00:52.760
these whomever they are. Because I mean, look,

01:00:52.820 --> 01:00:56.239
I require, with my job, I require a vehicle to

01:00:56.239 --> 01:00:59.599
trial maybe three hours one way at the most.

01:00:59.599 --> 01:01:02.300
Maybe four one way. And then back. That's it.

01:01:02.420 --> 01:01:04.099
And sometimes I have to spend the night, hopefully

01:01:04.099 --> 01:01:07.159
not. But regardless, it'll be back within 24

01:01:07.159 --> 01:01:09.059
hours. I actually think this is a great idea.

01:01:09.119 --> 01:01:10.800
It's like super convenient. I'm going to explore

01:01:10.800 --> 01:01:14.000
it because I've... Man, look, Hertz, they've

01:01:14.000 --> 01:01:16.739
been around for a long time, over 100 years.

01:01:16.960 --> 01:01:20.739
And it's a sign of the times. And they dove into

01:01:20.739 --> 01:01:26.300
a rat's nest of investments with this... EVs.

01:01:26.300 --> 01:01:28.920
The EV cars, man. They got screwed on this deal.

01:01:29.119 --> 01:01:30.840
They screwed themselves on the deal. It was the

01:01:30.840 --> 01:01:33.739
CEO that did it. He's in bed with Barack Obama

01:01:33.739 --> 01:01:35.739
and the rest of the... I could be wrong, but

01:01:35.739 --> 01:01:38.980
I think the CEO of Enterprise, which I think

01:01:38.980 --> 01:01:44.739
has just as great ratings, is now the CFO. Yeah,

01:01:44.880 --> 01:01:47.599
and now he's the CFO of Total Wine. I've just

01:01:47.599 --> 01:01:50.800
thrown that out there. Bean counters. Bean counters.

01:01:51.099 --> 01:01:56.039
Actually, Hertz filed for Chapter 7 three years

01:01:56.039 --> 01:01:59.539
ago. My company I used to work for, I... Sold

01:01:59.539 --> 01:02:02.460
them millions and billions and billions of dollars

01:02:02.460 --> 01:02:05.880
of equipment every year. Those were butt plugs?

01:02:06.300 --> 01:02:08.320
No, lots of... Yeah, you didn't specify what

01:02:08.320 --> 01:02:12.280
kind of equipment. Lots of Cisco and networking

01:02:12.280 --> 01:02:14.280
and shit like that. Wait, who takes a D -size

01:02:14.280 --> 01:02:16.039
battery? What, are you changing a fire alarm?

01:02:16.159 --> 01:02:19.880
I don't... Come on. Well, he's got these customers

01:02:19.880 --> 01:02:23.099
from Somalia. I don't know that they are using

01:02:23.099 --> 01:02:28.539
D -size batteries. Somalia? Oh, my God. But that's

01:02:28.539 --> 01:02:32.480
an interesting concept. So the Turo, I'm totally

01:02:32.480 --> 01:02:34.420
on board with that. I think I'm going to entertain

01:02:34.420 --> 01:02:38.780
that whole idea because I'm pretty done. I mean,

01:02:38.800 --> 01:02:41.179
I just rented another car from Hertz, and I had

01:02:41.179 --> 01:02:44.679
to push it to Monday. And I shouldn't say this.

01:02:44.679 --> 01:02:46.000
And they didn't care that you're going to have

01:02:46.000 --> 01:02:48.260
to pay two extra days? Yeah, well, yeah, you

01:02:48.260 --> 01:02:51.300
are. Well, no, I canceled it because it was on

01:02:51.300 --> 01:02:55.139
Friday, and I was like, really? I called back

01:02:55.139 --> 01:02:56.579
and said, no, I'm not doing this because you

01:02:56.579 --> 01:02:58.179
guys are blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

01:02:58.440 --> 01:03:00.360
And I'll start it again on Friday and Monday.

01:03:00.519 --> 01:03:02.760
And by the way, I'm really unhappy about this.

01:03:02.820 --> 01:03:04.960
And it's going to probably have some repercussions.

01:03:05.460 --> 01:03:08.179
I will say with Toro, you have to drop the car

01:03:08.179 --> 01:03:10.539
back off at the person's house. So in your example

01:03:10.539 --> 01:03:12.780
of the first example, it wouldn't have worked.

01:03:12.820 --> 01:03:16.019
Your example of this example does work. You should

01:03:16.019 --> 01:03:18.039
have just said, do you have any idea who I think

01:03:18.039 --> 01:03:21.099
I am? Have you seen my status? I am platinum.

01:03:21.099 --> 01:03:24.699
It hurts. Come on. Damn it. I'm a very important.

01:03:24.699 --> 01:03:28.559
I'm the president circle. I have status. I'm

01:03:28.559 --> 01:03:30.380
going to wrap it up. I'm most anxious now that

01:03:30.380 --> 01:03:32.500
we've talked about Turo. Most anxious to try

01:03:32.500 --> 01:03:34.940
this next wine. Let's rock it out. Do we need

01:03:34.940 --> 01:03:37.500
to down this? Is that what we're doing? Oh, mine's

01:03:37.500 --> 01:03:41.300
gone. Oh, okay. We've been enjoying it. Oh, that's

01:03:41.300 --> 01:03:42.920
good. The pinot was so tasty. I took a picture

01:03:42.920 --> 01:03:44.139
and I sent it to my wife. I was like, we need

01:03:44.139 --> 01:03:45.860
to get this one. Yeah, it's so good. It's so

01:03:45.860 --> 01:03:47.860
good. Rating this one, this was very good for

01:03:47.860 --> 01:03:51.050
me. Yeah, I rate it very, very, very good for

01:03:51.050 --> 01:03:54.369
Pinot Noir. Three berries. Yeah, I like that

01:03:54.369 --> 01:03:56.530
one a lot. Do you have a bottle of water over

01:03:56.530 --> 01:03:57.829
there? I'm going to get that one. I do not. Would

01:03:57.829 --> 01:04:01.550
you like one? Yeah. So this doesn't go in order

01:04:01.550 --> 01:04:05.369
of dryness, does it? We're in order of price.

01:04:05.489 --> 01:04:07.949
Of price. Okay, okay. This next one is a little

01:04:07.949 --> 01:04:10.389
bit pricier, but I will say that we got a better

01:04:10.389 --> 01:04:12.570
deal because we bought it retail versus buying

01:04:12.570 --> 01:04:16.820
it from... one of the rules with these wineries

01:04:16.820 --> 01:04:19.599
is that they have to let the people buy the winery

01:04:19.599 --> 01:04:24.099
a little bit higher of a price so that the retail

01:04:24.099 --> 01:04:26.139
environments can still make money. So especially

01:04:26.139 --> 01:04:28.619
on the ones that are produced and they sell in

01:04:28.619 --> 01:04:31.739
more retail environments, they make these agreements

01:04:31.739 --> 01:04:34.300
out. So this wine, if you were to buy it directly

01:04:34.300 --> 01:04:36.039
from the winery, it would be a little bit more.

01:04:36.619 --> 01:04:39.539
But they do give discounts for their wine members

01:04:39.539 --> 01:04:42.099
and sometimes that equals it out or whatever.

01:04:42.750 --> 01:04:45.150
But this one's a fantastic wine. I'm really excited

01:04:45.150 --> 01:04:48.269
about this one. And I told you, I've been out

01:04:48.269 --> 01:04:50.050
there and done Harvest. This is the company that

01:04:50.050 --> 01:04:52.769
I harvest for. I know the winemakers personally,

01:04:52.969 --> 01:04:55.610
and I love it. And we have a signed bottle. Yeah,

01:04:55.610 --> 01:04:57.909
it is. It is signed by John Harris. So John Harris

01:04:57.909 --> 01:05:02.110
is one of the two owners of Amici. I've actually

01:05:02.110 --> 01:05:05.010
never met the other one, John. I'm pretty sure

01:05:05.010 --> 01:05:08.190
that he doesn't exist. Well, maybe John Harris

01:05:08.190 --> 01:05:10.309
could join us someday. Oh, John would totally

01:05:10.309 --> 01:05:12.530
be down with that. Really? I'll ask him. I'll

01:05:12.530 --> 01:05:14.809
ask him. He loves it. He's a Texas man. He is

01:05:14.809 --> 01:05:17.130
a Texas man, true and true. Nice. You said he

01:05:17.130 --> 01:05:19.369
lives out in the California region. I should

01:05:19.369 --> 01:05:22.409
pour. I feel like I'm... No, no, no. So I will

01:05:22.409 --> 01:05:25.409
tell you that Miss Heather was adamant about,

01:05:25.510 --> 01:05:28.269
no, this one needs to breathe immediately. As

01:05:28.269 --> 01:05:29.489
soon as I get there, we need to pop this into

01:05:29.489 --> 01:05:33.769
the decanter. So for those novice wine drinkers

01:05:33.769 --> 01:05:36.380
out there, for some of these... these wines that

01:05:36.380 --> 01:05:40.059
require for it to breathe, I highly recommend

01:05:40.059 --> 01:05:42.579
you get this decanter. She got this from Amazon,

01:05:42.760 --> 01:05:45.639
H -E -B, whatever it is. H -E -B, yeah. The bottom

01:05:45.639 --> 01:05:47.480
line is that you got to get one that's got a

01:05:47.480 --> 01:05:50.940
very large, swelled bottom to it so that you

01:05:50.940 --> 01:05:54.699
have more surface area for it to breathe. That's

01:05:54.699 --> 01:05:58.199
the whole idea. I have one of these. You have

01:05:58.199 --> 01:06:01.119
bourbon in it. That's called a bedpan because

01:06:01.119 --> 01:06:03.840
when you get drunk... No, no, no. I have one

01:06:03.840 --> 01:06:05.880
that's shaped exactly like this. I got it from

01:06:05.880 --> 01:06:07.539
a vendor and I was like, what the hell is this?

01:06:07.659 --> 01:06:10.780
I had no idea that it was explicitly for wine.

01:06:11.000 --> 01:06:14.179
Yeah, so I did have a really expensive, I think

01:06:14.179 --> 01:06:16.840
it was like a $600 one that my husband broke

01:06:16.840 --> 01:06:20.119
as well as $2 ,000. Holy shnikes. Yeah, so Riedel

01:06:20.119 --> 01:06:22.400
makes really... No, no, no. Stop. How did he

01:06:22.400 --> 01:06:25.059
break it? He's... You know what? We did have

01:06:25.059 --> 01:06:27.599
to call him to find out. I don't know. He's broken

01:06:27.599 --> 01:06:30.119
every Riedel glass that I own and I owned so

01:06:30.119 --> 01:06:32.119
many of them. So they're all broken. We've probably

01:06:32.119 --> 01:06:33.960
gone through. Was this through a drunken stupor

01:06:33.960 --> 01:06:36.739
or I was washing the dishes? Are you over serving

01:06:36.739 --> 01:06:40.139
him? I don't know. We've spent $2 ,000 on Riedel

01:06:40.139 --> 01:06:42.079
before I finally was like, screw it. We're going

01:06:42.079 --> 01:06:45.400
HEB and Amazon. God bless. Yeah. What's so special

01:06:45.400 --> 01:06:49.460
about Riedel? Riedel, it's like the thinnest

01:06:49.460 --> 01:06:51.920
glass out there, but when you drink wine out

01:06:51.920 --> 01:06:54.690
of it, you can really smell. more, you can taste

01:06:54.690 --> 01:06:57.909
more. The best way I can describe it without

01:06:57.909 --> 01:07:01.489
sounding like it's a marketing scheme is. I ignorantly

01:07:01.489 --> 01:07:03.449
want to throw a red flag and say that's bullshit,

01:07:03.530 --> 01:07:06.070
but I don't know. Okay. So here's what I can

01:07:06.070 --> 01:07:10.630
tell you. If the glasses are designed to hit

01:07:10.630 --> 01:07:13.130
your olfactory nerve. And so if you think about

01:07:13.130 --> 01:07:14.789
like when people had the big C word that nobody

01:07:14.789 --> 01:07:17.150
wants to talk about COVID, right? You couldn't

01:07:17.150 --> 01:07:20.269
smell and you couldn't taste. And so your lack

01:07:20.269 --> 01:07:23.269
of smell affects greatly your lack of taste.

01:07:23.309 --> 01:07:25.880
So therefore, if you smell more. You taste more.

01:07:25.940 --> 01:07:28.500
And women do smell more than men. They can pick

01:07:28.500 --> 01:07:31.079
up more. I believe that. My wife has a nose of.

01:07:31.340 --> 01:07:33.780
Oh, man. That's amazing. I could fart downstairs

01:07:33.780 --> 01:07:35.480
and she could smell it in the bedroom. Yeah.

01:07:35.480 --> 01:07:37.659
How did you know? I thought you meant that they

01:07:37.659 --> 01:07:40.280
stink more than men. Wow, I was going to say

01:07:40.280 --> 01:07:42.039
that. If you think about like olden times, like

01:07:42.039 --> 01:07:43.500
the men went out, they hunted. They didn't have

01:07:43.500 --> 01:07:45.500
to smell an animal. They had a freaking dog that

01:07:45.500 --> 01:07:47.340
barked at it, right? The women had to find herbs.

01:07:47.500 --> 01:07:49.039
They're like sniffing the air. They're like -

01:07:49.039 --> 01:07:51.619
Oh, my God. You know? All right, this is culture.

01:07:51.760 --> 01:07:54.579
I'm just saying. I'm just saying. Generations

01:07:54.579 --> 01:07:56.679
of - I'm going to say that to Shelly. I'm like,

01:07:56.699 --> 01:07:59.500
go get some herbs. Go get some herbs. You know

01:07:59.500 --> 01:08:01.599
what? That could be taken wrong. many ways. Yes,

01:08:01.599 --> 01:08:05.829
yes, yes. I'll be right back. That is Oregon.

01:08:06.090 --> 01:08:10.449
So tell us about this wine. Okay, so I did Harvest

01:08:10.449 --> 01:08:12.710
for Amici, and I know that they're going to listen

01:08:12.710 --> 01:08:14.010
to this. So when you say Harvest, you're talking

01:08:14.010 --> 01:08:16.210
about you were out there picking the grapes and

01:08:16.210 --> 01:08:18.550
stomping on them? No, no, no. This specific bottle,

01:08:18.630 --> 01:08:21.250
right? So no, I went last year. Your feet have

01:08:21.250 --> 01:08:23.109
been on these grapes. That was 2014. Did you

01:08:23.109 --> 01:08:25.050
lose a toe ring? That would have been 10 years

01:08:25.050 --> 01:08:30.670
ago. Oh, I found a ring. No, not that year. They

01:08:30.670 --> 01:08:35.039
don't step on their grapes either. I've seen

01:08:35.039 --> 01:08:36.520
them get in the vats though. I've gotten in the

01:08:36.520 --> 01:08:38.520
vat, but there weren't like all the wine in there.

01:08:38.579 --> 01:08:41.220
So it was just the grapes left. Okay. So the

01:08:41.220 --> 01:08:46.140
Amici. Lord, I know. This is delicious. You already

01:08:46.140 --> 01:08:48.399
started drinking? Oh, damn it. I know. Fuck it,

01:08:48.399 --> 01:08:49.880
man. You can't put something in front of me and

01:08:49.880 --> 01:08:52.460
not expect me to. I'm a child. Okay, so this

01:08:52.460 --> 01:08:54.420
is... Okay, so this... Let me... I'll try to

01:08:54.420 --> 01:08:55.840
do it as fast as I can because I know we're running

01:08:55.840 --> 01:08:58.279
over on time. Okay, so John Harris and a guy,

01:08:58.340 --> 01:09:00.659
I think his name is Bob. Thanks, Bob. Bob. I've

01:09:00.659 --> 01:09:03.640
never met Bob. They own Amici. Amici means friends.

01:09:03.920 --> 01:09:07.979
And they also have a vineyard out in France as

01:09:07.979 --> 01:09:10.159
well. But these, like the vineyards that they

01:09:10.159 --> 01:09:13.420
use here in California, they're through Napa

01:09:13.420 --> 01:09:15.329
and Sonoma depending on... where they want their

01:09:15.329 --> 01:09:17.810
grape. This is all from Spring Mountain. It's

01:09:17.810 --> 01:09:23.350
a 2014. It is fantastic. So Amici, their wines

01:09:23.350 --> 01:09:27.569
are a little bit more in, I would say, the style

01:09:27.569 --> 01:09:29.670
of like French style. They're not going for that

01:09:29.670 --> 01:09:31.970
really high sugar. They're not going for like

01:09:31.970 --> 01:09:34.989
a ton of, they don't add color. They don't add

01:09:34.989 --> 01:09:38.229
sugar. They're trying to. and build a beautiful

01:09:38.229 --> 01:09:40.869
cab. But it's not true to like a normal Napa

01:09:40.869 --> 01:09:43.449
cab because Napa cab can go for super high alcohol.

01:09:43.590 --> 01:09:47.329
And I think this one is what? 14 .6%. It is 100

01:09:47.329 --> 01:09:51.029
% Cabernet. Wow. And it all came from Spring

01:09:51.029 --> 01:09:53.550
Mountain. So I'd love to hear what y 'all think

01:09:53.550 --> 01:09:54.529
about this one. Well, I'm picking up on the nose.

01:09:54.590 --> 01:09:57.289
I'm picking up some spice. First off, the first

01:09:57.289 --> 01:09:58.550
time I stuck my nose, well, I didn't stick my

01:09:58.550 --> 01:10:01.149
nose in it, but when I was first about, I picked

01:10:01.149 --> 01:10:04.189
up some spice. Like it almost, almost didn't

01:10:04.189 --> 01:10:08.119
necessarily burn my nose, but. I could feel it.

01:10:08.680 --> 01:10:12.439
It's like baking spice. Yeah. Raspberry. Oh,

01:10:12.560 --> 01:10:14.859
raspberries galore, I think. Are you looking

01:10:14.859 --> 01:10:17.100
at the tasting notes? I feel like you might be.

01:10:17.239 --> 01:10:19.199
I think he's cheating. I think he's cheating.

01:10:19.399 --> 01:10:23.060
I don't even know how to do that. You are looking

01:10:23.060 --> 01:10:26.479
at the notes. Don't listen to him. What a cheater.

01:10:26.640 --> 01:10:29.579
I know. So one of the things I like about this

01:10:29.579 --> 01:10:32.579
is you do get tobacco on this one. And I love

01:10:32.579 --> 01:10:35.399
a wine that has some tobacco notes to it. And

01:10:35.399 --> 01:10:37.899
I think this is true of many different spirits,

01:10:37.960 --> 01:10:40.060
too. You can get some of this in spirits. But

01:10:40.060 --> 01:10:44.220
I just really love this wine. I have quite a

01:10:44.220 --> 01:10:47.420
few of Amici's bottles that are really hard to

01:10:47.420 --> 01:10:49.760
get that you actually can't get via retail. You

01:10:49.760 --> 01:10:51.899
can only get if you've gone to the vineyard.

01:10:51.939 --> 01:10:54.619
Well, not the vineyard. It's hard to explain.

01:10:54.659 --> 01:10:55.880
I'm not going to go down that rabbit hole because

01:10:55.880 --> 01:10:57.819
we're running late. But I will just say that

01:10:57.819 --> 01:11:02.520
Amici is amazing. So Dante and Tony are the winemakers.

01:11:02.560 --> 01:11:05.859
Tony Biaggi has so many 90 -point ratings that

01:11:05.859 --> 01:11:09.239
it's ridiculous, like over 90. I always jokingly

01:11:09.239 --> 01:11:11.500
call him King Midas because everything he touches

01:11:11.500 --> 01:11:13.859
turns to gold. Well, tell us about it. I mean,

01:11:13.899 --> 01:11:16.479
how long have they been around? That's actually

01:11:16.479 --> 01:11:17.960
a really good question. They've been around for

01:11:17.960 --> 01:11:21.470
a while. I think... God, John, don't kill me.

01:11:21.829 --> 01:11:24.689
I know it's over 10 years because we're drinking

01:11:24.689 --> 01:11:30.069
in 2014 now. It's been a while. He raised his

01:11:30.069 --> 01:11:33.050
kids in Napa. Okay, so he went to school in Bordeaux,

01:11:33.069 --> 01:11:37.069
and then he moved to Napa. His kids played Little

01:11:37.069 --> 01:11:41.949
League. John, you're what, 40, 50? Oh, God, don't

01:11:41.949 --> 01:11:44.750
get mad at me. We're going to go with he's been

01:11:44.750 --> 01:11:48.930
there for 20 years. Okay. Where? Okay, well,

01:11:48.989 --> 01:11:51.939
that's good. Do they grow their own grapes? No,

01:11:52.020 --> 01:11:55.239
but they use some of the best vineyards. So in...

01:11:57.200 --> 01:11:58.779
Relation, because I've been out to Napa a couple

01:11:58.779 --> 01:12:01.939
of times. Where are they at along that main strip?

01:12:02.100 --> 01:12:03.479
Are they on that main strip or are they on the

01:12:03.479 --> 01:12:06.380
other side? No, you couldn't even drive to them

01:12:06.380 --> 01:12:07.659
if you wanted to because you're not allowed down

01:12:07.659 --> 01:12:09.960
the road. It's restricted. So it's the CEO's

01:12:09.960 --> 01:12:12.720
John Harris and the owner's Bob Shepard. Oh,

01:12:12.739 --> 01:12:15.560
there's Bob. There we go. Oh, I know Melissa.

01:12:15.640 --> 01:12:18.119
Hi, Melissa. I know you're going to listen. Hey,

01:12:18.140 --> 01:12:23.180
girl. Hey. All right. So what's the sticker price

01:12:23.180 --> 01:12:26.920
on this? This one is, well, if you buy it at

01:12:26.920 --> 01:12:30.920
the vineyard, it's $250. I think that we paid,

01:12:30.939 --> 01:12:34.300
I think, $175 for it. Well, this is outstanding.

01:12:35.220 --> 01:12:39.159
So listen, I do not drink wine at all. This is

01:12:39.159 --> 01:12:42.220
outstanding. It is. It's phenomenal. I think

01:12:42.220 --> 01:12:45.439
the nose on this is phenomenal. They can send

01:12:45.439 --> 01:12:48.739
us a bottle every once in a while to sample on

01:12:48.739 --> 01:12:52.300
the podcast. Absolutely. Actually send it to

01:12:52.300 --> 01:12:54.479
you so you can come back on the podcast. We're

01:12:54.479 --> 01:12:57.329
going to... In the future, we're going to have

01:12:57.329 --> 01:12:59.109
you back on. You're going to be on for the second

01:12:59.109 --> 01:13:00.829
half. It'll be a different type of podcast. We're

01:13:00.829 --> 01:13:01.930
going to talk about bourbon on this one. But

01:13:01.930 --> 01:13:03.689
I think the next time you're out here, I think

01:13:03.689 --> 01:13:06.609
what we need to have is one of our original extended

01:13:06.609 --> 01:13:09.350
versions of the podcast. We had traditionally

01:13:09.350 --> 01:13:11.529
done a three -hour podcast when we first started.

01:13:11.930 --> 01:13:13.909
And we're kind of like, oh, it's too long, it's

01:13:13.909 --> 01:13:15.649
too long, it's too long. I think for this one,

01:13:15.710 --> 01:13:18.109
it might work out because there's a lot of information

01:13:18.109 --> 01:13:19.689
that we need to build up. Dude, I have so many

01:13:19.689 --> 01:13:23.079
more questions. Tons. Yeah. Like one of them

01:13:23.079 --> 01:13:25.119
is, oh, that year was great. Oh, that year was

01:13:25.119 --> 01:13:27.619
not so great. I understand it's climate -based,

01:13:27.720 --> 01:13:30.199
but, you know, hey. We're going to intermittently

01:13:30.199 --> 01:13:32.180
touch up on some of these questions on the first

01:13:32.180 --> 01:13:34.119
half. Do you have any questions with us right

01:13:34.119 --> 01:13:35.899
now? No, this was super fun. Thanks for having

01:13:35.899 --> 01:13:37.239
me. You did have fun. Are you going to stick

01:13:37.239 --> 01:13:38.960
around for the second half? I was planning. Are

01:13:38.960 --> 01:13:41.000
you all kicking me out? No, absolutely not. I

01:13:41.000 --> 01:13:42.859
am going to eat my Chipotle. I have a Chipotle

01:13:42.859 --> 01:13:44.060
sitting over there. Well, we'll take a little

01:13:44.060 --> 01:13:45.239
bit of a break, and you've got one more bottle

01:13:45.239 --> 01:13:47.720
left to pour. Is that correct? No, not at all.

01:13:47.899 --> 01:13:50.659
Nope. That's a surprise. We'll talk about it.

01:13:50.760 --> 01:13:52.899
Yeah, it's a secret. It's a secret. All right,

01:13:52.920 --> 01:13:55.000
well, it's January 15th. It's the first half

01:13:55.000 --> 01:13:57.960
of the podcast. Dudes Like Us, I'm sold on. Before

01:13:57.960 --> 01:14:00.300
I say that, thank you, Ms. Heatherliner. Thank

01:14:00.300 --> 01:14:02.659
you. It is a pleasure having you out here. Thank

01:14:02.659 --> 01:14:04.880
you for bringing all this product out here and

01:14:04.880 --> 01:14:07.180
letting us sample it. And we look forward to

01:14:07.180 --> 01:14:09.439
the next one. Well, real quick also, the Amici.

01:14:09.439 --> 01:14:12.899
Can I find that everywhere? for only H -E -B.

01:14:12.979 --> 01:14:15.960
Amici is sold at H -E -B. It's also sold at Total

01:14:15.960 --> 01:14:17.880
Wine. I know that they have a couple of other

01:14:17.880 --> 01:14:19.760
places they sell, but those are their two main

01:14:19.760 --> 01:14:23.199
people in Texas. Okay. Instagram and Facebook.

01:14:23.300 --> 01:14:26.220
Check us out at dudeslikeus .com or sorry, dudeslikeus

01:14:26.220 --> 01:14:29.020
forward slash Facebook, whatever it is. Check

01:14:29.020 --> 01:14:33.000
out also ThatSom, S -O -M -M from T -X, text

01:14:33.000 --> 01:14:36.800
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01:14:37.239 --> 01:14:39.800
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01:14:39.800 --> 01:14:41.300
Like Us. I'm Sean. Thank you. you mr. producer

01:14:41.300 --> 01:14:44.220
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