Oh, I heard a snort.
Is that a snort?
This is part two.
That was clever, right?
That just happened.
Hey, I've been there.
I'm going to pull it up while you all look.
Hold on, hold on.
Don't lose that picture.
I'm going to amplify that when I edit.
Have we snorted?
No, don't amplify.
Oh my God.
All right.
Well, for those that are just joining us right now for our second session of the Dudes Like
Us podcast, this is the January 15th episode and we have Chuck, our producer, for being
on top.
Thank you, sir.
Thank you.
We've got a new lighting scheme happening in the podcast room, which is kind of a different
dynamic.
Unfortunately, it's a double edged sword because our guests that are here tonight didn't really
enjoy the lodge sense that we had earlier because you couldn't really...
With what's going on now, it's like you have to keep shit clean.
Yeah.
But with before...
Yeah, it's different.
We're not wearing that.
It was so dark in here.
Yeah, we're not wearing the hats and the leather stuff that we normally wear.
We could pop on one of these little Nazi helmets.
It was okay.
Yeah, yeah.
It was very different.
Whatever it was.
Before you got here, it was very different.
Now it's well lit.
Anyways, look, this is the second half, so we're obviously a little toasty from the first
half.
It's Dudes Like Us.
I'm Sean.
I'm Paul.
I am Jeff.
And I'm Heather.
And thank you, Mr. Producer, again, for bringing it up.
So you know what?
The first half, we had a...
Ms. Heatherliner, thank you for joining us for the continuing.
We had a Michi.
First and foremost, is there any left?
No, we drank it all up.
Negative.
No, we hammered it.
No.
Bastard.
What do you mean?
There's some in your glass.
Dude, yeah, you got an equal pour.
That's your morale.
Okay.
You got an equal pour.
Don't get all Ben out of shape here.
Paul has a lot over there.
Well, because I...
That's not a Michi.
Unlike you guys, I can pace myself and enjoy what I'm drinking.
That is absolutely 100% not true.
I've never done it before.
It's a soundscape.
This is a first.
New year, new you.
All right, look, we want to pay tribute to the Michi group because we didn't have a lot
of time on the last podcast to chat about it.
A shout out to them because look, we went from...
We're ADD, ADHD, whatever we want to...
Actually there's no such thing as ADHD.
It's ADD, period, across the board.
We had a lot to talk about the first half, so it spent the whole thing.
I think in the future podcasts, we're going to probably extend that for probably two,
three hours.
Can I ask for a quick...
Absolutely.
We cap.
Wow.
Napa Valley.
Yep.
A Michi.
Yep.
Napa Valley.
Okay.
And we drank the 2014...
We did.
Cabernet.
Okay.
Go ahead.
Is this vineyard winery able to be visited?
Okay.
I'm going to do this really fast.
If you were an older vineyard in Napa, you and Sonoma actually both, because of California's
laws, you can have as many people as you want all the time.
It's like woohoo, right?
As long as they don't produce emissions.
No.
As many as you want.
Zillions all day long.
But anybody that created a vineyard after a certain amount of date, and I don't actually
know this date.
I probably should, but I don't.
If you had...
It's 2011.
I have no idea.
2010.
Yeah.
If you had a vineyard that was opened after that date, you have only so many people you
can invite per year.
So you can, for sure, go visit a Michi.
It's also based on their carbon footprint, which rules out Sean.
But it's by reservation, I'm sure.
It is, yeah.
You have to reserve.
You cannot just show up.
In fact, the road will actually tell you that you cannot be on it.
So what I would recommend is contact me, and I will definitely connect you with the right
people to go visit.
It's Heather Liner.
Check her out at Instagram and Facebook.
That's Som.
That's Som from Texas.
That's Som, S-O-M-M from TX.
Instagram and Facebook.
We were talking about from the prior podcast.
It's the 2014 Michi Seller Cabernet Sauvignon.
Real quick, the reason I'm saying this is we're all going to be out there in a year
and a half.
For your son's wedding.
Correct.
Oh.
So, yeah, I don't know if I'll have time, but it'll be good.
I'd like to go.
You may be able to have time to go is what I'm saying.
Do you mean by a couple cases?
I'll make time.
Yeah.
So anyway, that's a while's off, but anyway.
And we would love to meet the folks there.
Yeah, absolutely.
John Harris, Bob Shepard, and Melissa DeVore.
God bless.
We'll invite you.
We'll extend an invitation to you.
Okay, I'll come out there, and maybe I'll finally get to meet Bob.
Bob, do you exist?
To be fair, John covers all of Texas when he comes out and Amici is represented by somebody
other than their reps.
Then it's John that comes out.
So I've met John.
I've worked with John at Harvest.
Did not see Bob at Harvest.
I'm sure he has so much to do with the company because he covers all the other states of
the United States.
But I've just never met him.
So I'm like, is he real?
I don't know.
He has a nice vest.
He does.
He has a nice vest.
A little puffer vest.
I didn't get an Amici puffer vest.
What?
Yes.
Did you get everything else?
I did.
And this guy right here, so this Morrisouli Vineyard, I went to the Morrisouli Vineyard
and I talked to Chris Morrisouli and then I got a private tour with Chris Morrisouli
with my husband.
He was there.
You have to clarify that.
Yeah.
Because it sounded kind of shady.
Actually, the most embarrassing story that I have to tell that I cannot tell, but I'll
tell you all after we get offline, it happened at the Morrisouli Vineyard.
So are you in a drunken stupor?
No, actually, no, no, I wasn't.
I know.
Not at all.
So Bob Shepard, the owner, has a laser focus on attention to detail, et cetera, et cetera.
So look, we wanted to bring attention to this because it's a big deal.
We appreciate you bringing this program to our podcast because we're a whiskey bourbon
thing.
And it was a treat to try an elite wine.
Well, this level of wine, I don't think I've been experienced to it.
And you're Mr. Yes.
You got you to come to a wine bar.
Well, it's not the only thing to be honest when when when Heather came to me, it's like
it's going to this going to be X amount of dollars to do this thing.
I was like, what in the hell are you doing?
You'd be worth it.
I told you it'd be worth it.
It was.
And but, you know, and I kept telling these guys, actually, that's not true.
I didn't tell them at all.
I was kind of like, yeah, he hit it from a spring.
By the way, it's I bought gifts.
I provided the glasses.
You can't turn the bottle.
He says we were doing Boone's farm and Matt Dogg.
I have strawberry.
That's not true.
I never said that.
Strawberry.
I love that song.
Strawberry wine.
I did sound good with you.
I can sing really good if you want Gloria Gaynor, but I have to be drunk.
Yeah.
Who's Gloria Gaynor?
Oh, I will survive.
That's the karaoke song.
She is the only that's the only song she has is I will.
Now I have 200.
It was a frame.
I was 183 songs in my karaoke playlist.
From her.
No, from Gloria Gaynor.
I think that I know I know at some point we were wanting to talk about the top 10 karaoke
songs that we actually did.
That has to be the number one girl power.
This is my playlist for karaoke and it's six hours and 31 minutes.
I can sing a lot as long as it's a sing a lot as long as it's an auto.
You know what?
You and your husband are going to be invited into the next karaoke party.
Huge karaoke.
We would love that.
My husband will not sing, but he will drink.
I have a special.
All of that happens.
I have a special room for him.
Something tells me if he has enough.
No, absolutely never.
We'll sing never.
Not even not even close.
Really?
Not possible.
No, not possible.
Challenge accepted, Sean.
I will.
I will sing all the songs, though.
Well, I can't even get him to challenge except tequila.
I'm looking at my phone because I'm going to send you a picture of the place where your
husband's going to drink.
Hold on a second.
Oh, OK.
Is it is it downstairs?
Yes, it's it's it's in his gimp room.
Oh, God.
Listen, you're going to love it.
Just put on this hood.
As long as it is.
What do I do with the red ball?
It's kind of hard to sing with the ball in my hand.
Oh, my God.
What's going on?
Haven't you seen Pulp Fiction?
I looked out of my phone for a second, for just a second and look how bad it went.
There's no red rooms in karaoke.
OK, there are people listening to this podcast.
There are.
And they're very well, they were.
They were.
They've all hung up.
Anywho, so we got karaoke going on at my house.
I'm going to let you guys know what, because here's the thing.
We enjoy doing it.
We come over.
Look, we have we have fun.
Chuck.
God bless.
We all get together and we like to get spirited and sing.
Yes, we're not.
We're not saying we're going to make an album.
Speaking of Chuck, we have to we have to pry.
We have to pry the microphone out of Chuck's fingers.
Oh, yeah.
I think we have to everything.
We have to wrestle him to the ground purposely and pull the microphone out of his hand.
I will put up a Donald Marana up on them and he will hold fight through the thing.
I'm singing Madonna like a virgin.
Oh, my God.
That's my song.
Oh, wow.
Well, did you record us at one time?
You said it was outstanding.
Outstanding.
That's not what I said.
Oh, so I bought.
So for the so there is an evolution of audio.
Things that every year I upgrade upgrade my system.
So for those folks that don't know me, I used to own a professional entertainment system
like a company that did DJ karaoke.
And so I had all this fantastic equipment.
And when I started dissolving it, when I became more of a professional, I had to support my
kids and stuff and family.
I kind of let that stuff fall away.
But I we still like to do the karaoke stuff.
Your extended family loves it.
I love it.
So I started buying these these the speakers that would work.
And then when you start applying pressure to them and start pushing them to the limits,
they don't work when we start yell singing.
Yeah, well, when it's when it's midnight and the party's full on, you know, I love that
sound.
I love sound.
I love the way it sounds.
I'm a sound engineer from heart and I love the way it sounds good when it doesn't sound
good.
I'm all up in arms.
So I have spent like you get it gets in your head every year.
I do upgrades.
So right now I'm at a good point.
But I bought a new sound board that for actually for the podcast.
I told the wife, oh, it's for our karaoke parties at the house.
I hope she doesn't listen.
She's like, she asked her.
She doesn't give a shit.
But she does not listen.
But my point is that I bought it.
I bought it for the the the karaoke shows.
But it's for the podcast.
But Chuck has brought it to take it to his house.
So it has the ability to record in there.
It's a it's a digital soundboard.
It's very sophisticated for as small as compact as it is.
So it recorded all four tracks, all six tracks, actually.
It doesn't matter.
But the whole karaoke program we did for what is it?
Hours.
Halloween night.
Was that Halloween?
No, no, no.
I think there's one on New Year's.
We did one on New Year's, but I didn't record the one.
The one I was there was Halloween, I believe.
Yes, the Halloween one I recorded.
I had my ostrich on.
Oh my God.
I was going to let you guys have that.
You recorded New Year's Eve, too.
You told me you did.
Or maybe you deleted it.
I deleted it because I listened to it.
And I was like, oh, hell no, this is going to come back to bite me somehow.
He didn't he didn't nail Whitney Houston.
He was very upset.
No, no.
Well, yeah.
Well, you know, it was a lot of fun.
And but the thing is, is that we have we have some really good Paul.
You're actually a really good singer.
Thank you.
Yeah, really.
I mean, I think some songs good.
You kind of you cross the board.
You do a lot of things.
Great.
You know, I do a lot of warm up.
I anyway.
So my sister, I have a lot of people to thank.
Sorry.
Go ahead.
He sure was Melissa.
Well, you know, Paul always shows up with like a bushel of cardboard because he loves
breakdancing.
A bushel.
All right.
Hold on.
What was the context?
A bushel of what?
What are you saying?
Cardboard?
For what?
Oh, I'm cardboard.
He loves it.
Yeah.
See, we put out the cardboard.
He loves to breakdance.
Oh, that's absolutely not true.
I would like die instantaneously.
Are you kidding me?
I would spontaneously combust if I tried to breakdance breakdance.
Well, that lady in Australia, you know, went to the Olympics.
Oh, my God, please.
I can.
Ray Gunn.
My eye twitched watching her.
I just can't.
She took so much shit for that.
Can you know?
Because have you read the actual story?
She just made shit up and won.
And I'm like, what?
She didn't win.
Well, she didn't win, but she like won big in her country.
Yeah, she won in Australia to go to a Olympics.
Right.
But there was nobody competing.
It was just her.
Yeah.
No, she invented the team.
She literally did it all.
Yeah.
I don't want to hear that.
But the thing is, she got so much crap that she like.
Right?
Because she was not, she never breakdanced.
She just was like, I want to be famous for something.
So this is what I'm going to do.
So you think it was like a scam?
Like a.
You need to read about it.
It was 100 percent a scam.
She is.
Oh, that's not cool.
No.
But there was somebody that really wanted to go.
Oh, come on.
I can breakdance better than her.
No, no.
The thing is, is that this goes to tell you the lengths that they go to accommodate some
of this weird programs.
New stuff.
Why in the hell do they have breakdancing?
It should be in there.
It shouldn't be a part of the Olympics.
Come on.
But there was another one.
Well, there was another new one they put in the Olympics.
Oh, yes.
Oh, OK.
The NFL.
This is a classic.
They got Cameron Bynum that was like he was mocking her.
Do you see?
Do you see the rest of the play?
OK, so give me these guys are talented, actually.
We're going to give them some context.
So there's a Vikings player that after he scored his touchdown, he recreated Ray Guns
Olympic dance and the rest.
And usually the rest of the players gather around and they do whatever he's doing.
Like they're looking they're like, what the hell are you doing?
One person got it.
They did it.
They clearly had no.
It is funny, though.
But what it does draw attention to is that there's a lot of these phantom things going
on in the Olympics.
It's like they don't need to be there.
They should be.
They're always adding.
They call them not experimental, but they stupid.
Yes.
Provisional.
Oh, thank you.
They do it like one time and they like kind of see what the feedback is.
Seeing if they like it.
Because they talk about doing that with Ray Guns.
Ray Guns screwed it for everybody.
I'm sure like skateboarding and snowboarding was part of that group at one time until they
realized, all right, because they didn't know.
They're like, oh, maybe breakdance was going to be good.
Sure.
It was the same thing.
Well, maybe snowboarding was good.
Well, snowboarding turned out to be all right.
What about the people who dance on the gymnastics floor with the ribbons?
On the trampolines.
They do the trampolines.
No, no, no.
They jump way in the air.
They're like.
So what's interesting about this is that that is an actual Olympic sport.
A trampoline in the ribbon?
Yes.
But here's what's interesting is that pole was introduced.
Rhythmic gymnastics.
Yes.
Yep.
So pole was introduced as being like one of these introductory sports and you actually
have athletes who are holding their whole entire bodies up with like tiny little minute
muscles around a pole.
And you've got young kids doing this too, especially in Russia.
They would have to be young.
You know, like there's women doing it too, but like older people.
But the thing is, is like, how is that not a sport?
But I can dance with a ribbon for everybody who does ribbon gymnastics.
Heather, no disrespect.
The three of us could totally do that.
Oh, pole dancing.
Oh, yes.
There's no way.
Absolutely not.
I mean, guys, I could fall off a pole.
What muscles does it use?
All of them.
It can't be that hard.
Yes.
All of them.
Let me.
Don't don't fuck with Heather on this.
She's like the authority.
So I could I could see the newscast.
I am pole certified as yeah, pole fitness.
You clarify what pole fitness.
My clothes did not come off.
I started in a bikini and ended in a bikini.
But it's not really a bikini.
It's more like a sports bra on little booty shorts.
But you know, go slow, go slow.
So I can do so I'm certified in pole, but I'm also certified in aerials.
I've done flying trapeze, but you know, stuff like that and tons of yoga and even something
called booty yoga, which is like trap yoga.
It's like I've done booty yoga with trap music and you.
Oh, yes.
It's like it's basically a giant workshop.
It's a real thing.
Yeah, I was going to say work.
I could do it honestly.
I should put aside.
I'm a level three twerker.
I don't know that I believe that.
Show us, Paul.
That's what it's really.
You really get a good look at it in the chair, but I can make that swing.
Now I want to see that three.
I don't want to see.
I'm going to become a ribbon ribbon.
Wow.
Oh, my goodness.
OK, yeah, wheels off.
All right.
Anyway, that was provisional.
So Amici, thank you.
Thank you, Amici.
John Dante, actually, all those people were pretty fantastic.
I'll also I'll like do it like the smallest nutshell ever.
So John Harris is pretty cool.
He decided he'd create a program for people in the industry to where if you sell wine
or you're a distributor of wine, you can do this thing called boot camp.
And so you have to write in and try to be approved for it.
I was approved for it.
So I did a week of boot camp, but then I didn't leave for a whole nother week.
I'm staying.
Yeah, I didn't have to.
They had an excellent morning.
They're like, hey, we're going to meet back here at five a.m.
I'm like, OK.
And they're like, not you.
And I'm like, OK, I'm here anyways.
I know.
So they called me the ultimate boot camper.
I stayed for two weeks and got to help them.
And what was really cool is I came at the very beginning when I hit was when everything
got harvested.
They're like, this is the time.
And it was so cool, like watching it, because everybody's everybody's texting everybody
like, OK, Tony, I just I just need you to know that Joe down the street, he's he's
harvesting today.
Why are we going to harvest?
No, we're waiting.
Why?
Why are we waiting?
And you just you're hearing all these winemakers.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And they're like the real it's like watching the desperate housewives of grape growers.
It's fantastic.
It's so good.
It was like such a rush anyway.
So like you're doing that.
And anyway, it's a lot of hard work.
Like it was actually like life threatening at some points.
But we'll talk about that later.
Anyways.
But it was cool.
They let me stay for two weeks.
And you're like raising your family at this point, too.
Well, I left them behind.
So it was much easier.
Yeah.
They're all at home with my husband for one week.
And then he came out for the second week.
But no, we had a great time.
But it means she was fantastic because John put this program in so that people that sell
wine and distribute wine could see how hard it is to create.
I think that's great.
They have an appreciation.
Yeah.
And they can talk to it.
Yeah.
And they put us in their little house.
They have a beautiful house.
They put us in the house with all the turkeys.
John, your turkeys are fantastic.
I love watching them every day.
Did you get to eat them?
No, I was going to say the same thing.
You watch the turkeys.
They just travel around making noise.
Are they feral or are they...
They're feral.
They're just...
Are they Toms?
I don't...
What is a Tom?
A male.
It's like a Jack.
It's kind of an asshole.
I didn't check their sex.
No, the big turkeys, the big Tom turkeys.
Oh, I don't know.
Honestly.
You'll have this, John, when you meet them.
Are they Janes as well?
I mean, what?
Tom and Janes?
I don't...
I mean, what are we talking about?
I don't know.
That's John, right?
Not Tom.
These are turkeys.
I stayed at the second week I stayed in one of my friend's houses.
Do they all audition for Thanksgiving every year?
I don't...
I didn't ask him.
I don't want to think about that.
Like, I can eat an animal, but I don't want to see where it came from.
I don't think...
But still, the turkeys, I think...
What other kind of...
Is that the only takeaway you had there?
No, no.
She...
It was the experience of the turkeys out there.
What else was out there that was similar to the turkeys?
Were they like deer?
Were they like...
Chickens?
No, we didn't see any of that.
I mean, okay, so at the house I was staying at, we saw a...
Of an aquarium?
Deer and the smallest bird.
I was like, it was this big.
And I'm like going through this Birds of California book and I'm trying to find it.
And I'm like, I don't even see anything small enough.
California is so wonderful and beautiful, excluding the whole weird program they have
to run it.
I mean, it's such a beautiful state.
It really is.
It is pretty.
And the biodiversity.
The biodiversity.
That's a big word for you.
Thank you.
I liked it.
Thank you.
It's a SAT word of the day.
Check.
Scrabble.
We also like taint.
Oh, it happened.
Round circle.
God bless.
So anyways, but...
Oh.
Whose phone?
Is that yours, Sean?
I turned my phone off.
I didn't turn off alarms.
I have Bible study tomorrow morning, just so you guys know.
I have work.
I don't want to, you know...
So what time is your Bible study?
I don't want to do any virtue...
I don't recall.
Jeff and I do Bible study with you, so who are you doing Bible study with?
It's a Saturday.
Oh, I see.
I see.
It's at 7 a.m. at...no, 6 a.m.
Oh, so you...
6 a.m. at Hope Fellowship Church, and I will be there.
I didn't realize that was an option.
Well, I mean, I wasn't given an option.
You said you were going to be up at 6 45.
Why not 5 45?
I can get up at 5 45 had I had the option.
You still do?
You still do.
You haven't missed it.
You haven't missed it yet.
It is a brotherhood that I have to sign up for.
Oh.
So that's like a six month process?
What is that?
A year process?
No, dude.
So look, Heather, this is the second half, and it's kind of a little bit more wild than
the first half.
Okay.
I brought something to contribute to this.
And we're very excited because you've been teasing this for the last couple of hours.
Yeah, the secret, the secret.
And not yet.
But we do want to...hold on, before we dive into that, we want to touch base on a couple
more things, though.
We're thankful you're here.
You've got seven kids.
Yep.
And you've got your new career set up.
And in addition to that, you're...God damn it.
I know.
What's wrong with you?
Smaulier, your stewardess.
Are you having a stroke?
Stewardess.
Not a stewardess.
Stewardess.
Steward of wines.
Yes.
Okay.
Do they say that?
I know they say...
The court of master Smauliers.
This is what I was diving at.
So they say bourbon steward, right?
Is that the equivalent of wine Smaulier levels?
I don't know that level for bourbons.
I don't know those.
I don't know.
Well, there's not really something that's listed like that.
I think a Smaulier covers liquors as well.
Kind of olive oil, right?
Yeah.
Spirits.
Spirits is the term.
Various levels of Smaulier.
Yeah.
And you envelop that, right?
What?
You envelop the whiskeys in part of the Smaulier program.
Yeah.
I mean, it's not as much...so it depends.
Like, court of master, you're going more for wine.
W set.
You're going to go over everything a lot more.
You're going to go over a little bit with court of master.
You're going to go over a lot more with W set.
That would be a lot of fun.
It would be.
To learn in depth about all this stuff that we...
I mean, it would be a benefit to our podcast considering we're a bunch of idiots that
kind of shoot from the hip on most of the stuff.
Actually, we're starting to really cultivate a fine-tuned palette on a lot of the whiskeys
that come in.
Sure.
After five years.
Yeah.
It took a lot of exposure.
But nonetheless, it's fun for us.
But to introduce a new thing like wine has been awesome.
Do you have one of those kits that have all the smells in it?
God, are you all going to judge me?
It's like over $300.
No, we're not.
But yes, I do.
I do.
Why would we judge you?
So it's a game.
I'm nonstop judging.
It's like over $300.
And I told my husband, I was like, I really want this game because it's going to help
me be able to smell things.
And it's great until you start.
I'll teach you.
No, until you start drinking.
And then you start drinking and you're like, I think this is butterscotch.
And he's like, butterscotch isn't a flower, honey.
And I'm like, are you sure?
It doesn't go wrong.
I'm like your husband already.
Yeah.
We tend to play that game really well unless we start drinking.
And if you start drinking, but you're talking about wine smells.
So you're like, oh, you know what would be really good right now?
Let's get out some of that necklace today.
And then the next thing you know, you're like, this smells like butterscotch.
So by the way, I'm pregnant again.
No, no, he got fixed.
We're good.
So everything ends up at butterscotch at the end of this game.
Not really, but I do get really angry when I don't win because I'm super competitive.
So my husband hates playing with me.
There's two games he really hates playing with me is the smells game, which is what
I call it.
I don't actually remember which one it is.
And then the other one's monopoly.
So that's part of what you guys get together.
We'll have to challenge both of you with Pictionary.
OK, well, Pictionary is fine.
I'll win and he'll lose.
So well, we play girls, females versus males.
So it's just like one of me versus or there's we have our wives.
And actually, our wives are really good at it.
They have they've been cultured.
Maybe because they have to smell their way through it.
We've already discussed how a woman can smell better.
Well, unless you're smelling markers.
We have been doing.
We've been doing Pictionary for years.
It's fun.
Yeah, we enjoy a lot of it.
I played Pictionary when I was a few years old.
So I mean, I'm probably be good.
Flashcards.
Yeah.
Apple.
So this game, the smell game.
So I imagine that that's important for your career, like like your skills.
Yeah.
You know, and that's kind of not fair.
Something that nobody else does this.
If if you if you get into this business where you're like, I want to smell stuff and taste
stuff and know what it is like, it's not an easy job.
You watch it in the movies.
You're like, that looks like so much fun.
Or my husband said, actually, that looks like hell.
And I was like, that looks like fun.
But the truth is, is like, I've done this for a couple of years now and I've only identified
one wine ever.
So if you have a big ego, it's very hard.
It's very challenging.
Very hard.
Yeah, because you're like, I taste this.
Oh, my God, I taste this and I taste that.
And I'll get like one thing like there was a there was a wine that I so I meet with a
group of small liaisons.
They're all in the industry pouring for people.
I'm on the retail side.
And you know, we all got together.
And the only thing that I've ever accurately been like, that was me that called that.
I was like, I'm I'm pretty sure this was whole cluster fermentation on a wine that we had,
which means that they did not take the vines like the vines are out.
But like the the you know, the little stems that they're on, you're taking out there.
They're made into that so that it gets that like really earthy, fun, tannic, earthy, all
of that.
Nice.
And so you called it.
I did.
That was the one thing I've contributed to that group.
I'm sure they're super proud of me.
And they're years and years of expertise as they just sit there.
They're like, oh, God, it's Heather's turn.
Right.
It's like it's your turn to draw and everybody's like, oh, shit.
Yeah, it's not great.
It's not great.
But it's OK.
I'm getting better.
But that's a skill.
I mean, these guys, I mean, when we're trying bourbons, oh, oh, I get this.
I get that.
I mean, they're and they're full of shit most of the time.
And they're reading it on the screen.
And I'm I'm not getting much at all.
Yeah.
You can just say vanilla.
Oh, yeah.
Vanilla and caramel.
Paul, you're not supposed to tell people that.
I know.
But you guys like, oh, dude, you have to trade secrets.
But here's the thing.
It's true.
Both sides are true.
So a lot of times when we were tasting these things, we do read what's going on.
I'm glad that you read.
Good job.
It's a struggle.
When we read what's going on, you also kind of identify with what you're reading.
So when you see it, you're like, that's fucking is butterscotch.
Right.
The hell.
So, you know, sometimes it's hard to wrap your brain around a few things.
So when you when you do read those tasting notes, it's kind of like I do smell that pepper.
I do taste those cranberry and cherry notes.
I didn't realize that's what it was, but that's exactly what it was.
You know, your brain starts to fluctuate and I go through like memories grown up and tasting.
You know, there's all this cladoscope of emotion that's popping through.
So given that we're going to try two tonight, is it too early?
Two spirits.
Is it too early to pull out this one?
Yeah, let's go ahead and get this.
This is all right, because you said butterscotch and this one's steaming with it's the Walcott
Rickhouse Reserve Burberry.
Let's just run through this real quick.
This one is a look.
This one is a staple.
It's solid.
We're going to rip through this because it's not fantastic.
Look, this is 50, 40, 50 bucks, right?
What did I say when I first I smelled cedar?
Yeah, it is.
I actually get a lot of butterscotch.
I'm not lying.
No, it's grass.
Thank you, Chuck.
Thank you, Mr. Spirits.
Mr. Stonefruit.
There's tons of stonefruit.
It could be peanut butter.
It could be butterscotch.
That's where the seed is coming from.
It's a stonefruit.
It's a seed.
I get a lot of I can't tell if it's peanut butter or butterscotch, but it's something.
And it's very tasty, though.
There is nothing wrong with this.
I pick up green apple as well.
It's allocated.
It's from the famous Barton 1792 distillery special bottling.
That's why you like it.
1792 single barrel.
There you go.
I love 1792.
It's one of my go-tos.
It's the best traits of the high-proof bourbon with the intense notes of rye, spice, charred
oak, stonefruit, sensation, pal, lingering, finish.
It's actually really, really good.
I enjoy this.
Is this 120 proof?
Is that what it says?
It's very strong.
I think it's like 115, right?
Or is it 120?
120.
It says 60, but I don't know if that applies to all the bottles.
So the reason why I selected this wasn't because of the label.
Actually, actually, it was 100% because of the label.
It was because it was a hundred proof.
It's 50 bucks.
I was like, what the hell?
It's 120 proof.
And even Kevin at Total Wine, he was like, you guys haven't bought this yet?
Oh, I love Kevin.
Love you, Kevin.
He's such a good dude.
He is.
He's been on our podcast.
He is our favorite.
Anyway, so he was like.
And Stan.
He was like, you guys don't.
Stan's not there anymore.
Well, I was going to say at Total Wine, right?
Stan's not at Total Wine.
No.
Anyway, so he was like, you guys have had this or you haven't had this?
It's good.
So it's kind of similar to like old granddad 114.
Just the old school solid.
You can always count on it to be perfect.
Yeah.
I would take OG.
This falls in the same category.
I would take GD 114 over this because that's 20 bucks.
Well, OK, I agree with that.
I agree that I would take full proof of benchmark.
Benchmark over this as well.
As well.
That's like 20 bucks.
I'm not saying this is not bad, but actually, this has more taste than the full proof.
It definitely does.
For 40, 50 bucks.
It's it's I think.
I think the other two I would prefer.
All right, Mr. Producer, are you have we is have you showed Chuck where the markings are
for him?
Damn it.
For the for the exciting musical intro of the bourbon?
No, we're keeping track.
So this is the I want to write it down here.
Oh, the rating sheet.
Oh, I'm sorry.
Yes.
So as you know, there's the wall cut.
Rick house.
This is not hazmat, so this falls in the 115 to 130 range.
You can still fly with it.
Yes, you can.
Absolutely.
So I I wish we you know, when we when we get the list, this would be very helpful to have
the list of all the ones that are 115 to 130 proof.
Boom.
On the screen.
And then we could say, how does this match up to where character?
How does this you know, all these other ones?
I can't read it.
What does it say?
The proof is 120.
Are you sure?
It says 60 percent ABV.
It is 160.
Yes, it is.
160.
Not 160, 120.
120.
That would kill us.
I think I think he's had more than we know.
I'm just writing it down.
A lot more.
And I have.
I was just writing it down.
So look, this one is a solid one.
For what it is at 120, honestly, because it's it's where it's at.
And look, this is something you want on your shelf for your friends to come over.
Yeah.
Oh, it's an easy one to share with your friends.
Yeah.
And look, I'm going to say six.
You know, I don't want to disrespect anybody.
But at the same time, I got to be real.
There are a lot of sevens out there that that are super.
And this is not super.
So I'm going to give this a six.
I'm going six, seven.
I'm going to give it a six as well.
I think price point is problematic for me considering what else is out there.
Yeah.
But 43 dogs, that's not bad.
I'm not saying it's bad, but there's a guest or if not better for half that heatherliner.
What do you get right?
This is on a scale of one to 10.
I give it like a four.
Like it's a really sweet guy that's into all the same stuff I am.
But he's a little short and kind of not muscular at all.
Doesn't have any muscle on his body.
Not a big guy.
I like big guys.
They got to have thick thighs, you know, and there's nothing there.
There's no substantial, you know, this really, really nails things down for me.
Right.
Yeah.
But when I think of Walcott, I think, you know, she's about five foot three and she's
got a very slender now and she's athletic and I don't know what size she is, but I tell
you what, I tell you what you were saying.
I think they're negative at this point.
Yeah.
Here we are.
Perfect girls like, Hey, stop it, Paul.
Stop the nose on this.
Or I'll say stop again.
Very ethanol to me.
Oh, I don't get any ethanol.
Oh, I just burnt my nose.
I agree.
It's ethanol.
That's why I gave it a six.
In fact, you know what?
They'd be thankful.
I gave it a six.
You know, it's ironic.
I enjoyed it in the store and I enjoyed it now.
I would, I would make it with Heather, the more and more I dress it up and try to make
it look like I wanted to date it.
Mixer.
Yeah.
Exactly.
Old fashioned.
This is an old fashioned.
This would be a good old fashioned one.
Yeah.
Because I could drink it then.
I disagree.
I would rather honestly, like if we're going to go over, you know, bourbons, there are
so many other ones that I could drink that I would enjoy more.
Of course.
Yeah.
We, I think we all acknowledge that.
Did you see your collection out there?
Oh, I didn't.
I didn't get to see in the, you know, 223.
I'm not quite there.
Yes.
So look at it.
If there's something you wanted to try, you can try it.
All right.
What is that face?
Did you just chug it?
I didn't know.
I didn't.
But well, we have a, in addition to the collection, we have the infinite bottle.
Yeah, I saw that.
I have an infinity bottle going at home.
Very nice.
I can't even tell you what's in there.
We have 50.
Pretty sure that mine is lethal.
We can, and ours is, we have a probably over, not probably, we have over 50 bottles in there.
Nice.
And it is impeccable.
That's good.
Okay.
Because we don't buy ship bourbon.
Yeah.
Well, there are a number of ship bourbons.
Now that Paul has refined his stuff, we don't buy anymore.
Yeah.
We have some really bad ones out there that we have to work through.
Yeah.
You know, I'm going to, I'm going to push back.
You guys have bought some ship bourbons as well.
Enlighten us.
Okay.
I will.
Actually, we don't know who bought what.
Oh, okay.
I'm going to.
I can promise you, you bought ship bourbon.
I labeled all yours.
Paul's.
We labeled all.
It's got a little pink sticker on it.
I'm going to pass around what I bought for, well, this is like a small portion of what
I bought for my husband for Christmas this year.
So I think, I think that y'all will get a kick out of this.
So y'all just pass it around.
Oh, nice.
Nice.
Yeah.
So I bought half of my husband, half of my husband, well, a third.
Bruce is like dying over there.
I'm sorry.
It's not a nude photo if that makes you feel any better.
That was like two years ago.
Are you kidding me?
Like you even thought that was a possibility?
I don't know.
I'm just saying.
Yeah.
Who's laying down on the couch behind these bottles?
Oh my God.
Yeah.
All right.
So we have a Stihl, can I call them out?
Yeah.
Call them out.
All right.
So we have a Stihl Austin.
With the blue corn.
Yeah.
With the blue corn.
I love.
All right.
So we have a Stihl Austin.
Yeah.
But it's the rye and I have never had it before.
It's good.
As a rye, I loved that one.
We have that one, but it's the barrel strength.
Okay.
Because I've only had two ryes that I've ever loved.
That's not a rye though.
We have the barrel strength rye.
This one's bottled in bond, straight rye.
Colonel E.H.
Taylor.
Hold on.
I'm 100% positive it is.
He's still going.
There's more.
I'm getting to the, actually, I'm not going to get to the best one.
I'm going to move over to the 1792 single barrel.
One of my favorites.
Shout out.
I'm a forester producer.
You're going to agree with that.
1792 single barrel.
I do like 1792.
Absolutely.
The next one is my favorite.
Old forester.
Right here.
And that is, oh, single barrel.
Old forester's actually really good.
Single barrel.
Old forester.
Very nice.
And this, this in the middle is the twice barreled Texas straight, Texas straight bourbon
whiskey.
Guess.
Balmarea.
Yep.
Balmarea.
Very nice.
That's a very nice five bottle collection right there.
I know.
I got Tommy Bahama clothes and I got him Hoka tennis shoes.
Tommy Bahama clothes are great, but overrated.
No, because here's the deal.
I married my husband and he married a 10 and he would be a 10 if he could dress, but he
doesn't.
He dresses like a homeless man.
He wears basketball shorts and a t-shirt that doesn't match every day of his entire life.
And when I met him, he didn't even have cool shoes.
Actually, I can't even tell you what he wore for shoes.
And he wears Wrangler jeans that he gets at like Walmart, Target.
I don't even know where he gets them.
So you have spruced him up?
Tommy Bahama is a step up.
Okay.
That is how he looks good because he's not going to wear fancy clothes.
So that's the closest I can get him to fancy.
Yes.
That's casual.
And he can still get into a nice restaurant.
And comfortable in his own skin type of thing.
Very nice.
Okay.
Well, thanks.
Trying to bring out the sexy in him.
Okay.
I'm bringing sexy back.
And you know what's cool?
You're not making him wear something that he is uncomfortable in.
No, he loves it.
He loves Tommy Bahama.
I respect that.
As long as it's not a thong.
Yeah.
I'm not making him wear a thong.
Tommy Bahama thong?
I might make him wear a thong now though because it's his time.
I tell you what, depending on what it leads to, he'd probably let you do that.
He probably would.
Let's get him in here.
Yeah.
He needs to.
We have a new sponsor dudes like us thong.
Looks better on some people than others.
Made from recycled barrels.
Ooh, splinter.
Right on the taint.
There we go.
We extended our streak.
Oh, there it is.
There it is.
And CPAP plus.
We extended our...
So we're trying to cherry pick our topics here to accommodate our...
Friend?
I didn't know what to say.
I was like, who the fuck is listening to this?
There's a lot, we got a lot written up on the board here, but I'm trying to figure out
what we're going to talk about.
Well, there's a lot of shit going on.
You know what I would like to jump to?
And we have this guy too.
Don't forget about this.
Yeah, we'll do that.
We'll do that in a bit.
Mr. Producer, how much time we got?
Plenty of time.
Probably got 45 minutes.
Plenty of time.
You know what I would like to be done an hour ago?
You know what I would like to talk about is TikTok.
Oh, God.
So it's in the news.
But why?
It's going away.
It's going away?
Yes.
On Sunday.
But why?
They banned it.
Right, because there's this Chinese influence and they're saying it's like a spyware on
your phone and they waited for an American company to buy it and nobody did.
TikTok's been here forever.
Why now?
Well, I think they figured out that the spyware was there.
Yes, the spyware was bad.
And so they even were trying to sell it to Elon.
Hold on.
I apologize.
What's happening?
So the spyware's been there forever, but they're just now getting rid of it?
Yeah.
Well, I mean, they've been trying to get rid of it, but they have to go through the bureaucracy
of the US.
Of the US to make that happen.
Yeah, you can't just get rid of something because then you're in a communist country,
right?
So you've got to go through the protocols.
And the interesting thing about TikTok, there's a lot of people that rely on it to make money.
And they're the high earners, but then there's a lot of people that just pay their mortgage.
You know what I mean?
Meaning they make enough just to make a money.
This is going to hit some people in the gut.
Because better than the taint.
Thank you for that.
God bless.
Ding, ding, ding.
She's fucking ringing those bells.
So she's listened to before.
Here's the thing.
We want hits too on our podcast.
So it'd be stupid for us to not want to get involved in TikTok, not wave in, not be part
of the solution to this.
But at the same time, I'm like, really?
I don't know.
What?
Really what?
Finish your thoughts.
That we have to get on it?
There is this European comedian.
I wish I could remember his name.
You can probably start Googling European comedian.
Here's this guy and he basically is like, he's like, do you remember the first password?
Do you remember the first password?
Did you remember your first password?
It was so, so exciting.
That password.
And you're like, password.
And that was your password for everything.
And then the internet's like, oh, I'm smarter.
I figured something out.
And then you're like, oh my God.
And they're like, you must now enter a capital letter.
Capital P password.
And everybody said capital P password.
Yes.
And then they're like, oh my God, I have the capital P password.
Wait until the number.
And then he's like the number, yes, the number was added.
And he's like, all right, everybody thought for a minute, two minutes, 12, who knows?
And then all of a sudden it was like password with a capital, with a capital P and the number
one.
And then they were like, no, the security is not great.
We must add more.
You must add a symbol, a symbol, a special character.
And he was like, and we were all like, show me an example.
What is a character?
I don't know what a character is.
And we all saw the characters and we all zoomed in on the exclamation mark and we had capital
P password, one exclamation mark.
And many of you are now looking at me thinking I should change my password.
So what has actually happened?
What has Tick Tock actually figured out other than we all have the same password that probabilities
and statistics have basically ruled us out.
Chuck, we can hear that.
Oh, two, three, nine, eight.
What are they doing here?
Password?
Baloney one.
Your password is baloney one?
Well, it used to be just baloney.
Now they make you a number.
Nailed it.
Yeah, that's from Hangover 2.
Thank you, Mr. Producer.
Hangover 2, baloney one.
Very nice.
But you're absolutely right.
It's been getting preposterous.
It's even, look, and rightfully so because Jeff worked for a company that had a hostile
takeover.
Yeah, we get ransomware.
Oh, shit, I forgot about that.
Yeah, so I mean, it happens out there.
So I mean, it's important to have security.
Sean, just so you know, you've gotten very loud this month.
See what happens.
We've been trying to tell him that for four years.
You get loud.
And he's like, no, I don't.
I'm not drunk and I'm just saying you got very loud.
Are you hearing impaired?
I am a little deaf.
I think it's the alcohol.
Okay, no, I really am.
By the way, you can't be a little deaf.
You either are or you aren't.
Okay, there's no varying degrees of deaf.
There's a decibel level of deficiency that I have in my ears that's not as much as yours,
but without hearing aids.
That would be hearing impairedness.
I went and got my hearing checked and they said your hearing is normal for a person of
your age.
And I was like, what does that mean?
That's a shot.
That's super rude.
I was like, well, that's okay.
You're in shape like a person of your age.
All right, Mr. Producer, here's where I would inform you to turn me down in her ears.
That's just a little.
But that's a shot, right?
It is a shot.
He's older than me.
So that's why I made that shot right back.
That's like going to the doctor, right?
You know how when you...
He's been turned on.
We're going to try to turn him off a little.
I'll just be quiet.
Imagine going to the doctor for like a physical.
Yeah.
And you do blood work and you do all this stuff.
And then they tell you, well, your blood work looks good for a person your age.
I know.
It's like basically a back-handed compliment.
Yeah, wait a second.
It's not nice.
So do I have the blood work of like an 18 year old that's like really, really healthy?
I guess it means that I have the hearing of a 40 year old at that time when I was 40.
Yeah, that's kind of stupid.
And now I'm 45 and I don't know what that says about me now.
So it's not nice.
Shouldn't we all strive to have like the perfect health?
I don't know.
I was like, I have insurance.
Just bill them, give me a hearing aid.
The hearing is actually kind of interesting.
I was reading a little bit because I was noticing my hearing is going bad.
So I was kind of concerned about that.
And there's a lot of research about the hearing in the last like a hundred years, actually
the last year, six months, 30 days.
Did you just go from a hundred years to a year and six months?
He did.
I did.
I did shrink that down quite a bit.
Glad you singled in.
98.
98 points something years.
So there are look, tiny follicles.
Oh, yeah.
The hair.
Continue.
They call them pubes.
Oh, not in your ears they toast.
Dear God.
Ear pubes.
The older you get those pubes collect dust.
Look, long story short.
Can we not call them pubes?
The older you get, the long story short, the older you get those pubes, they incur dust.
There's stuff that collects on them and it smothers them.
So I need an earpube cleaner.
Those receptors.
Those receptors aren't as you can't because they're internalized.
They're inside you.
It's not like an exterior thing.
So it's kind of tough.
How does dust get on them then?
Leave it to Jeff to blow holes in this theory.
If they're inside you, there's no dust inside your brain.
It's not a matter.
It's a matter of something collects on them.
I don't know.
Then they the little graph they put up there was that they just died for whatever reason
that Sean is saying is that he got the coloring book from the ear doctor.
And they had fat Crayola's.
They were like, smell like earwax.
And he never bothered to ask why are the hairs on the inside of the ear drum?
I don't understand.
But the reality of it is, is that when you when they got this down to a science, I'm
telling you what, man, I've got an app on my phone that you can pull up with those frequencies
where you can you can start to dial down the frequencies and that and certain people can't
hear it like my kids.
I could pull it up on the phone and I could play that frequency of my house and all the
kids are coming out.
What the fuck is going on down here?
And I'll be like, I can't hear what you're talking about.
I don't know what you're talking about.
Oh, like, Dad, are you serious?
Are you fucking with me?
Is it?
You know?
Yeah.
By the way, welcome to my world all the time.
You know, like you really can't hear the head.
Well, my kids, my kids had me go test at 40.
So if that tells you anything, they were worried about your hair.
Yeah, because I they're like, you can't hear anything.
And I'm like, well, maybe it's because you're all too fucking loud because there's seven
of you and there's one of me.
You've damaged my ear.
Yeah, no, it's selective hearing at this point.
I only know what sounds of pain sound like so that I know when they respond.
They have blended into background.
But we're all about the same age, and they did say that, like, if you go to concerts
and the concerts are like in the closer you get to the speakers, it also damages those
follicles that are not pubes.
And so I like I like to get really close to the stage.
And I was like, I can feel that I can feel the music, you know.
But in reality, it was just me destroying my hearing so that my kids could complain.
That's exactly what happened.
I think.
Look, who's the the AM radio guy that got the award from Trump?
Rush Limbaugh.
Rush Limbaugh destroyed his shit.
He had cochlear implants.
Yes, he did.
Why?
Because he went to Pearl Jam concerts.
Probably not Pearl Jam.
A lifelong of doing this.
This kinks the tree.
Where are the headsets?
Oh, this is bad for us right now.
No, I mean, within certain.
I mean, look, for me personally, because obviously I'm loud, right?
Yeah.
I mean, I'm here to be the I require some amplification in my my my my hearing to be
able to hear you.
Yeah, you guys.
So, yes.
But he had decades and decades of oh, yeah.
Multiple hours every day.
Yeah, I think the best way to describe it is we're at an age where we've seen bands
when they're young and they're old.
Like I saw Metallica when they had money and then when they had to sell all of their hair
to make money.
So to make, you know, well, I feel like I feel that's why they cut their hair.
Obviously, Markins.
They could have made they could have made Metallica, Merkins.
Yeah.
Great ones.
Yeah.
Do you know what Merkins are?
I don't.
You don't want to know.
Merkins are like they're the wigs.
They're not for your hair.
They're pubic.
Oh, dear God.
You know what that reminds me of?
Nooticles.
You know what nooticles are?
They're testicles for dogs that have been castrated.
Yes, they're big in California.
Of course it is.
If your dog is feeling low, I'm not feeling low.
You got to get them nooticles.
Are you leaving?
My dog doesn't even know.
Nooticles.
Big in California is not a surprise.
We should create a song for it.
Nooticles when you don't hang low.
Nooticles have nooticle keychains.
Are you looking it up?
Yeah, there you go.
Yeah.
So you carry your dog's nuts around with you?
No, but well, maybe these people do.
But I'm just saying.
No, nooticles.
But you can have them.
Yeah, you put them into your doggy dog so that it doesn't feel like a less of a man
for having his testicles cut off.
Does the dog really notice?
Apparently he does.
Apparently there are psychologists in California that are dog psychologists
that have looked into this and said that it causes them to rest.
If it came somewhere besides California, maybe I'll leave it.
I only buy female animals.
Can I call out what this is?
It's a scam.
Yeah.
Stupid, stupid pet owner.
$150.
Listen, I'm going to go get breast implants for my cat.
That's what I'm going to do.
Oh, nice.
I'm going to give her like double Ds on all eight of them.
She's like dragging on the floor.
You know what's sad is she is actually a breast cancer survivor.
She's a bangle.
And she's probably not a legal bangle.
She's like more Asian leopard than she is tabby.
And so she's just a spotted leopard.
But she's small and dainty like an Asian leopard.
She's not like a giant leopard, right?
So she runs like, I don't know, like 11 miles a day on this wheel that we got her.
She's super agile.
She's like 12 years old.
We got her.
We rescued her from a kill shelter at six.
But she was a breeding queen and they got rid of her because she started producing still litters.
Still litters.
Is that right?
Still litters.
Yeah.
Stillborn.
Yeah, still litters.
So we drove to Baton Rouge to rescue this cat.
And this cat that we paid $150 to rescue, plus, you know, the trip of driving to Baton Rouge and driving back and all that.
My husband loves the story.
He doesn't at all.
So we have now spent $25,000 on this cat.
Oh, no, you have not.
She has had breast cancer on both sides.
So she's had all of her mammary glands and all of her teats removed.
She is solid fur.
So if they can have testicles, why can't she have boobies?
She has breasticles.
Breasticles. I'm getting her breasticles.
Why? Why invest that?
Do you not want her to have breasticles?
No, I do not.
Are you being serious about $25,000?
Ask my husband.
He will be dead serious, super excited.
He's like, just kill the cat.
I'm like, if you kill the cat, you're burying me with a cat.
She's my soul mate.
I mean, I love my husband, but my cat is who I'm being buried with.
Oh, here he is.
To the teat.
This is Ben Stiller.
What have you.
I went in and just simply...
What is this movie?
Is he milky?
What? You know this is Meet the Fockers.
Meet the Fockers.
You've never seen Meet the Fockers?
Who are you?
I have no idea.
It's a good movie.
It actually is.
It's not good. It's funny though.
It's funny.
Okay. It says Meet the Pirate.
My
The first one is Meet the Fockers is the second one.
The actual name is Meet the Fockers?
No, that's part two.
Oh, Meet the Parents is first?
Yes.
Correct.
Oh, it made two.
It made two.
Oh, it was that good.
Meet the Parents was meeting her parents.
Meet the Fockers was meeting his parents.
He handed me glasses.
Are you ready for me to pour?
Yeah, I do.
Okay, so I have to...
Jackass, I gave her another glass.
Yes, I have the glasses.
Well, I have...
He's like...
I have everybody by our amazing producer who's had to put up with this.
Okay, so, okay, here we go.
So let me tell you the story about how I found this.
Okay.
This wine, this wine spirit, so it's a distilled wine, was featured at a thing that I volunteered
at called Texom.
They bring wines around the world and Texas into this environment where sommeliers and people
that are in the industry can learn about these wines, learn about these spirits, sake, all
this stuff, right?
So I saw the label and I was like, I'm going to buy this just because it's super, super
fun.
And I didn't think it would actually be good, but it actually is.
And I think you're going to like it.
But this is...
So this is from the country of Georgia, but this is called Vixen.
Okay.
The country of Georgia?
The country.
Yeah, it's not the state.
Okay.
So...
And Georgia is where?
It's...
Rusia?
Ruski?
Old Rusia.
Okay.
Oh, wow.
Southwest of Russia.
I do not have my readers on.
Do you have readers?
Do you need to magnify the mouse on your phone?
Do you not?
We don't have any vision problems.
Hold on, hold on, hold on.
Brilliant idea.
Okay.
Heather, we have perfect vision, perfect hearing.
Oh, okay.
Well, I'm old.
I'm 45 and I can't see.
You're the young one of the years.
Bitch, please.
What is going on here?
45.
Apparently women have better sense of smell.
Look how young I am.
That's super blurry.
Okay.
I'm going to try to read it.
Yeah, that's not going to happen.
I know it.
Okay.
Let me just go over this.
Okay.
So there could be a language barrier.
There really could.
I'm going to, I have to try to blow this up because I'm going to-
Do you not speak Georgian?
I'm going to, no, it's in English.
The problem is, is that my eyesight is really bad without readers on.
Georgian?
I need readers.
Hold on, hold on.
I'm going to try.
Georgian.
It is Georgian.
Hey, could you not speak Georgian?
It's not very clear.
Let me try.
Okay.
Yeah, you try.
Jeff wants to speak Georgian.
Okay.
He's going to try to take a picture of it and then let me make it bigger.
I can read.
It's funny.
I want to read it.
Okay.
This is the whole reason I came on the podcast.
Sorry, I read this damn thing.
This one thing.
All right.
We'll give it to you.
Pull it up.
He's going to let me-
Zoom in, Chuck.
Zoom in, you son of a bitch.
Zoom in.
Don't look.
Don't cheat, Sean.
I'm-
Okay.
You did a really good job.
Okay.
All right.
So it says, product of country of Georgia.
Okay.
In Eastern Europe lies Georgia.
Are you reading?
Don't read it.
The motherland of winemaking.
He's opening the cork of the bourbon.
Her ancient gift of vines brings you this unique spirit preserving the essence of the
Sopavari grape with a fruity aroma and easy drinking liqueur that lingers her exotic-
What's that?
Liqueur?
Are you listening?
You just cut me off.
Hold on.
Here we go.
Drinking liquor that lingers her exotic flavors on the palate.
Ooh.
But it also used a female thing.
Her?
Yeah.
Liqueur.
Easy drinking liquor that fingers her exotic flavors on the palate.
And it really does.
It fingers-
Fingers?
God.
It fingers the exotic flavors of the palate.
Ooh.
It fingers-
I don't know if it was lost in translation, but it's called Vixen, so I think it's not.
I think there's a translation issue there.
I think there is a translation issue.
Isn't that a movie, too?
Lost in Translation?
I don't think I've seen that either.
Yes.
Bill Murray.
It's a good movie, by the way.
I don't think I've seen it.
Kind of depressing, actually.
Oh, I don't want to see that.
Okay.
If you want this, you can get it through Vino Gavino 21 Tampa, Florida.
That's who their distributor is.
But I-
Jeff, can you pass the ball to me?
I've got to see it with my own eyes.
Was that wine porn?
What was the verbiage there?
Do what?
Porn.
Wine porn.
It's kind of on the-
I don't know.
It's on the edge of a porch.
This is what I need you to- It's not like a port at all.
I need you to ask yourself if it fingers your palate.
If it fingers your palate, it has done its job.
Like the uvula?
I can't wait.
It was like banging the uvula back there.
Oh, banging.
Wow.
Really, Jeff?
That crossed the line.
My church group's not going to accept this.
I have to go tomorrow morning.
Well, you know what?
I have work people in the industry listening to this, so I don't feel bad for y'all.
All right.
So finger banging- No, fingering the palate.
Finger uvula.
God.
I don't even know what that means.
But I'll let you know if it's- I don't know, but look at me.
I brought glasses and then I brought- This is his.
I'm assuming.
You did.
I brought glasses.
I brought a decanter.
I brought a wine opener and I brought a spirit you can't even buy here.
Yes, you did.
I'm a good person.
And thank you.
And you're masterfully talking to the microphone.
Masterfully.
Yes.
I'm probably not.
I'm probably screwing it up, but you know what?
No.
Well, the check would tell us because your levels would be-
Okay.
She's a fanatic.
This guy has a foot smell to me.
Foot.
What?
Well, that's what- Honestly, look, you said it's not a porting my palate.
Everything in my brain and mouth screams port.
Okay, it's not though.
Taste it.
I got something.
You tasted it?
Yes.
This does not taste like port.
I'm just saying, to me it does.
Like a ruby port, a little bit, but not a lot.
Can I say something unique?
Please.
Super sweet though.
Please do.
I'm going to say something unique in the nose and you guys are going to be like, whatever.
I smell apricots.
Oh yes, that's very live.
Yes.
Yeah.
That's a first.
Usually I don't pull out- Yeah, that's what they-
You don't pull out at all.
So that's what they call stone fruit.
In the industry, I always was like, this is going to sound really bad.
Y'all probably knew.
Y'all are probably so much smarter than me, but a few years ago when I started this and
they said stone fruit, I'm like, what the hell is a stone fruit?
Is it like a stone?
What is it?
That's like my staple.
Yeah, I didn't know.
Stone fruit.
And I love peaches.
I eat peaches a lot.
I had no idea.
But no, I would- Amen.
Yeah, so that's what stone fruit is.
And this one's super fun.
So I bought it because of the back of the label.
I wasn't able to try it when I was at Texom.
It's like a dessert wine kind of- It's fantastic.
I think it was, what did I say?
It was like 20 something percent alcohol.
All right, here we go.
I'm trying it for the first time.
My nose was apricot.
You'll like it.
Here we go.
Your nose knows.
I'm going to take a picture of this.
22%.
Chuck, you did get this, right?
Yeah, it's digging.
Yeah.
It's hard to get, just so you know.
Sorry.
It's a good wine.
Right?
Isn't it good?
It's really good.
I didn't expect to like it at all.
It's a raisin.
It's plum.
Raisin.
Happiness.
Oh yeah, I'm thinking of the raisins.
Prunes.
Yes.
Heather.
I'm going to shit great tomorrow.
Heather, this is outstanding.
It's really fucking good.
Okay, so listen.
100%.
It's an aperitif, but I mean, I would actually have this.
So I've been to Michelin star restaurants.
I'm a huge foodie, which my husband hates because I have dragged him to restaurants where they
give him tiny little ass servings and he's like, why is it so small?
And I'm like, well, because-
Where's my brisket?
Right.
With the foo foo drizzle.
Yeah.
And we've paid to sit at the chef's table at many restaurants.
We've actually been in the hardest restaurant to get a seat to.
So we've been in the world's best restaurant that it's $1,000 a chair.
Oh my God.
And the waiting list is over a year long.
We've been to that restaurant.
Is that La Hacienda?
No, no, no sir, it's not.
At the corner of Lebanon and Preston.
But I will say like we've been to some of these restaurants and some of the things that
they serve us, you know, like the aperitifs that they give you on some of these, you're
just like, Oh dear God.
Like what is that?
That's like fungus.
I don't even know.
It's like fermented fungus.
But I'm like, this is like fantastic, right?
Like I would drink this.
I'm not drinking a glass of it, but I'm having like a little, a little bit of a mouth.
It's really, really good.
This is incredible.
I think so.
Very jammy.
It is jammy.
That's a great job.
Country of Georgia who may never hear this.
Well we do have listeners in Belarus or is Romania?
I don't think that's all of them.
All of them.
Well, we need somebody needs to tell their friend in Georgia that they're drinking their
tight tight.
I said very jammy.
Tight.
This is, this is, that's a, that's a great action.
It is.
Perfect.
It does taste jammy.
It's like liquid.
Can you imagine like having a really savory meal, like this salty fatty and just like
ending with this would be really, really good.
Oh yeah.
Okay.
I just need to know.
Does it finger your palate?
Well, you've looks like a speed bag right now.
Mine, mine got hammered.
I'm not talking deep strike.
Jesus man.
What the hell?
Let's get a speed bag.
I have no idea where to go from there.
I just need to know if it fingers your palate.
You're leading in there.
I blame you.
I know.
It is your fault.
And sadly, I'm the most sober of the group.
Yeah.
Well, you have a salad for dinner.
I had Chipotle.
That's not a salad.
There's lettuce on it, but there's not a salad.
And rice and protein.
You don't eat meat.
Is this procurable in the U S?
Yeah.
You have to go through this guy right here.
So this is Vino Gavino 21 Tampa, Florida, but there's a website.
So you can go to him.
Dixon Red Wine Liquor.
I think I took it.
I did.
Saperavi.
And it's a little bottle.
So it's 375 milliliters.
That was pronounced Saperavi.
Saperavi.
Yeah.
So if you watch, well, I'll show you later when we're done filming whatever we're doing.
But the.
It's a combination of a brandy in or port flavor, easy sipping, served meat or on ice.
All right, so you described you described how it's made.
Yeah.
Well, no, I didn't.
I just said it did not.
I said it was distilled.
OK, so do you know a little more detail on that?
No, this is not what makes it what makes it unique.
I say you can't get this anywhere.
I have tried to find this because I.
How do they make it?
Well, I just said I don't know.
So I tried to find this after seeing it at this this simile conference that I went to
and I looked everywhere.
I couldn't find.
Excellent.
Yeah, I couldn't find.
I could not find a wine distilled spirit anywhere.
An absolute treat.
We thank you very much for bringing this.
You're welcome.
Perfect dessert.
Excellent.
I think it's tasty.
I'm going to give it a very, very good.
So you say you have nothing to compare it to.
No, we do not.
So I'm going to give it a very, very good as well.
OK, very, very good as well.
Yes.
It's sweet.
I would consider this like in the dessert wine category.
Yeah, yeah.
I mean, it's like a wine slash port.
It's because it's in its own world.
Yeah, it's it's got I mean, like all the anything like distilled wine.
Are you OK?
I'm sorry.
Not so much here or there.
Right here.
But everywhere.
Oh, my God.
All right.
We got to keep the wheels on this train.
All right.
I think I think it derailed.
Let's finish.
No, this is this is every second.
Yeah.
But this is really, really nice.
Hey, hey.
And I brought stuff.
Do you do your other guests bring stuff?
I brought stuff occasionally.
Not like, yeah.
Well, I try to be super nice because I brought this guy and the glasses.
I put you did awesome.
Yeah.
Well, no, you are above and beyond.
Yeah.
So I'm going to take a hard left.
OK, let's go.
Let's go.
So this is not going to be the direction you want.
Yeah, I'm good.
But I am going to talk about a little bit about politics.
There were some stuff that happened today.
I wouldn't know.
I worked all day.
You have to fill me in.
I did slur.
Oh, God.
You guys know that political discussions are always best.
The visual is like more than you can imagine.
So I think a Mitchie actually numbs the lower lip.
So it's not that he's drunk.
It's just that there is a unique lip numbing that that that was from Vixen.
I was too hard of fingering our Senate.
Our Senate has talked to Peter Hexeth, Paul and Mary.
And also Paul Ruby.
They did three.
And why am they done?
Bondi and Rubio.
Yeah.
But what is a Peter was with what?
Secretary of Defense and I love this game.
Attorney General for America.
That doesn't work.
Yeah.
But he is somebody in there.
She is attorney general attorney general for America.
Yes.
No.
But we I didn't hear about.
Yes.
The third one that is Marco Rubio.
Decker State.
I didn't hear about him.
Well, they didn't say much.
That's not controversial.
They like him.
Oh, really?
Just like boom boom.
Yeah.
Hexeth is the one that's really controversial.
And apparently today he killed it.
But I got to tell you.
My my dad, a staunch Republican.
OK, OK.
Comes over to my house today.
He drops off a few birthday cards for my kids.
He was like, hey, what are you doing?
I was like, I'm walking bitch.
What's up?
You said, you're dead.
Whatever it's your dad.
So the point is, is that it's like I'm not on board with with Pete.
I was like, well, your dad's a vet.
Oh, 100 percent.
I was like, well, walk me through with why you feel that way.
And he was like, I just don't think he has the experience.
Right.
To lead the Pentagon.
It's a big.
He made up.
It's a big job.
He may or may not.
And look, it is a big job.
Yeah.
So it's difficult.
But what they were they alluded to, I don't want to say alluded, but what they fucking
flashed in front of the.
Oh, yeah, his indiscretions and it wasn't necessarily super personal, but it was they
always do.
Right.
It did.
It got all Judge Cabernet.
Oh, yeah.
He got weird.
He's Cabernet.
He is.
But Keith.
Keith.
Yeah.
Judge Cabernet.
That's his nickname.
They were they were diving at him hard.
But that wasn't the point.
The point was is that.
You know, he doesn't have that much experience.
He has some good military.
He doesn't have a lot of the like upper, upper level leadership military experience.
He has not.
Yeah.
I mean, he's led some organizations.
No, he has.
He's led some military stuff.
It makes you wonder.
It makes you wonder why the spokesman of Fox News wants to run with somebody.
In Fox News for the Defense Department.
I'm not saying they're tied together.
You're saying they like they have an in.
I'm not saying either way.
All I'm saying is that God bless it.
This is weird.
You know, and I do like Pete.
I listen to him in the mornings and I do like his family.
I understand what's going on in his past life.
I understand this like a bunch of bullshit going on with the his discrepancy in marriage.
And he cheated and stuff.
And he he made amends with his current with God and his wife and his wife respects it
and appreciates what's going on.
Beautiful picture.
Nice family.
But at the end of the day.
Yeah.
Is he experienced enough?
That's the question.
Is experience enough?
And I actually think he's going to get through though.
He's going to get 90 percent going to get through.
It doesn't matter because at the end of the day, it's like.
Is he the guy?
So here's my here's my thought on that.
We have had multiple generals come through and they've been jaded from the standpoint
of the one we have in there now is useless, useless, right?
And he's been in the military for how long?
Exactly.
I think there have been generals that have been.
Oh, my God.
This is so good.
So yes, it's amazing.
It is really good.
They've been so God, what's the word?
They've been partisan.
They're partisan pair.
No, like an all pair.
No, the taste.
Oh, go ahead.
Oh, no, I'm just saying.
OK, I think we would all agree somebody who leads the Pentagon, somebody who leads the
CIA, somebody who leads the FBI, those should all be nonpartisan people, nonpartisan.
They shouldn't be Democrat.
They shouldn't be Republican.
They should be experts in that field.
The problem, though, that you're speaking of.
So as somebody who's not part of those parties, right, like the libertarian, you don't have
backing as a non I'm going to stand up for this.
I'm going to stand up for that.
Nobody's backing you.
Yep.
Like that's like nobody's going to win the Green Party or libertarian, even though I'm
part of that, like because there's no money there because you're not you're not standing
for what the the common heat words are.
Right.
So like they have to be Republican or Democrat.
Like I I vote where my heart is.
And so when I vote, my ballot looks like somebody having a seizure.
So and I can say that because I do have epilepsy.
But like it does.
It's true.
Like it's all over the place.
It's high.
It's low.
It's everywhere.
You know, because I research every candidate where as like my husband's a straight party
voter, he's a Republican.
He's going to vote Republican no matter who it is.
Sure.
He doesn't care.
But at the same time, it's not clear and simple like that.
It's jagged because right.
Republican Democrat, it's it.
It should work like it shouldn't be straight line.
It should be straight line.
It should be down the middle.
It should be hard core Democrat.
It should be hard core Republican.
It should be intermittent.
Yeah.
But like 15, 15 years ago where it used to go like this, where it was like, OK, so listeners,
my hands are making an X. They're making an X.
It used to be like there were people that kind of fell into both like there are there
are hard core liberal Republicans and hard core conservative Democrats.
And now it's like they're so far apart.
There's no middle ground.
And so that's why nobody gets along when they talk politics is because there's not a middle
ground.
So if you're Republican, you're not going to get along with the Democrat as much and
vice versa.
And that's because the conflicts are so severe now and nobody cares about their other people's
rights or concerned about what the rights that are most important to them.
And that works on both sides.
So I don't know.
I just I would love it.
I would love it if everybody's like, screw the parties.
We're just going to.
But nobody's going to back.
Nobody's going to back up.
And me being somebody who knows that nobody is ever going to back the people that I stand
for until now.
Yeah.
Well, until now.
It's not.
Well, I think that even now is come to a point where we are starting to be backed.
Well, 60 percent of Americans are either libertarians or Green Party 60 percent.
But they vote otherwise because they know that their vote counts.
That's right.
It's not a it's not a quote.
And that's that's a that's a survey that they did like with Americans.
Right.
Well, my dad was a libertarian.
He finds like, screw it.
My vote is not counting.
I'm voting Republican.
Well, I've got a libertarian.
I've got to lean towards whatever is more correct or closely aligned to what I.
That's what he ended up.
I should be voting.
I vote again.
Everybody should vote.
Yes.
Yes, I agree with that, too.
But at the same time, here's the ultimate problem with this voting stuff is that we
don't teach our children how to vote and why they're voting.
Well, I think in my family, it was fine because I have seven children of the seven children
for.
This is a good story.
Real quick.
I'll tell you real quick.
And then you can go on.
So four kids could vote.
One did not vote because I honestly feel God, he's going to listen to this.
He's going to be mad at me.
One I really felt that he wanted to vote one way and his girlfriend is the other.
And I feel like that's why he didn't vote.
But because his siblings knew him, my other three, one super hardcore Republican, two
super hardcore Democrats, because I have told my kids to be free thinkers.
We love them no matter what.
And then the fourth kid.
Awesome, by the way.
Yeah, no.
And I love it.
We all get along until voting.
And then the fourth kid, I honestly feel like he did not vote because he was afraid of like
this, like push pull with his siblings and his girlfriend.
I get it.
And there's still a lot of pressure, even for not voting, even for not voting.
They got mad at him.
But it was really interesting because this last election was probably the most angry
I've ever seen my kids.
It was crazy.
Meaning they voice their disagreements with each other.
I don't know that there was ever an election that that mattered to my kids more than it
did now.
That's great, though.
I think that it's good, though, because they're young.
Oh, I think that's great.
And they're getting politically involved.
They should care.
I think I think part of it's the age that they're at as well.
Yeah.
You know, this is their first real impactful.
But I wasn't like that.
Were you like that when you could finally vote?
Or is it that meaningful?
No, not like in your household.
I think that's awesome.
Well, but even in the standards of what we had, it wasn't that crazy of a diversity.
Now it is a huge, huge, crazy diversity.
Even the research out there on these dating apps, you'll see that dick pics.
Yeah.
Dick pics.
Oh, yeah.
That's a good point.
The hell?
Sean's on Grindr.
What the hell?
It's a dating app.
Yeah.
Sean's talking about me again?
Sean knows all about dick pics.
Yeah.
Go ahead.
I think what I said is people will refuse.
A lot of it is more on the female side will refuse to date a conservative male.
Correct.
Whereas it's usually one way that the Democrats refuse to go with a conservative where the
conservative they're open minded, they're more open minded, which is counterintuitive
to what you would think is out there because you hear the liberals and Democrats are the
tolerant party.
Right.
In reality, it's the opposite.
Especially at the political level.
They're very intolerant at the political level, in my opinion.
I agree.
Agreed.
I got a funny story.
Hey, Brian, how you doing?
Stop it.
Brian will listen to this because he is my husband's best friend and a friend of mine.
I have friends that are liberal and conservative and it doesn't bother me because I honestly
don't care.
Good for you.
I'm on team God.
I'm going to vote whichever way I think that God wants me to vote and I love everybody
and I feel like Jesus told me to love everybody.
Thank you.
Love it.
I am just going to follow my heart.
I piss everybody off.
It's great.
Brian is a Democrat.
He changed his... Oh God.
I can't think of exactly the way it was, but he changed his dating profile because he's
single.
He changed it to something negative about Trump.
I don't know what it was.
Honestly, I don't know.
I don't care.
He said that his dating profile exploded like it never had before and all of a sudden he
had all these women contacting him.
Oh yeah.
He was negative about Trump.
He had none before.
Yeah, because he was negative about Trump.
There we go.
I thought it was interesting because I was like, if I was looking at a dating app and
I saw politics, I'd be like, oh, hard pass.
Hard pass.
Because that's not the first thing I'm talking about with a person.
It's like my husband on our first date, he brought up how many kids I had and I was like,
oh, next topic.
Next topic.
Because four is not a great number to start with when you're on a date.
Anyways, that's my topic.
That's my thought.
Should we do a round two of this guy?
Well, I don't want to use up since... Is that your only bottle of that?
I procured it just in time for this.
I literally-
So you can get another bottle.
Is there another one ready?
This is the only bottle, but it took me a long time to procure this guy and I got it
just in time.
As soon as he told me I was going to be on the podcast, I went and got this.
I want to be part of the program that procures the next one.
Okay, well, this was my procurement, but I'm like, if we want another pour, we could do
another pour.
It was really tasty.
Well, the website, I got the picture.
We could order our own bottle.
Yeah, but we could have some right now.
How long did it take to get to you?
Was it a long time?
It was like a couple weeks.
Jess, shut the fuck up.
Oh my God.
Super rude.
Bitch, please.
I have to take one right now.
Are you kidding me?
What's going on over there?
I'm just going to pour some and pass it around.
Yeah, here we go.
I'm going to take all of it.
Don't take all of it.
Because I'm next.
No.
It's not easy to get.
In college, you're still the same.
I will take all of it.
I don't understand.
We could do karaoke while we drink.
So let's go ahead and mute Sean's mic.
Okay.
There we go.
Did we talk about...
No, dude.
Well, we made it on the first part of that one sentence.
Just set up here.
Just a hearing stat.
That was it.
Well, one thing I think is top of mind of people.
I'm sorry.
Finish it?
No.
I just poured it.
I will tell you.
This stuff is thick.
It's thick.
It is very thick.
It's viscous.
And very dark.
If it was solid, it had girth.
That's why I'm very interested.
You're saying this distilled wine.
When I think of distilled, it's clear.
This is not clear.
It looks like it's thick, dark wine.
And I will say, I'm on the level two of the sommelier program through WSET and Quartet
Master.
So I'm not one of these people that knows everything.
And I'm always the first person to say that I don't know everything.
I know nothing about this process at all.
I didn't research it.
I was so excited.
I got it for our show just in time.
Literally just got delivered.
And I was like, OK, let's do it.
Let's make this happen.
So it's a L'Cour.
And it's 20%.
I think it's 22%.
Yeah.
22%.
Made in Georgia.
And it's made from wine.
That's all I know.
I just know that it's tasty.
Yeah.
It's very good.
Oh, man.
It's extraordinary.
I recommend this to everybody.
Yeah.
Everybody, if you can find it.
Yeah.
It is hard to find.
I mean, I gave you all the little linky link.
Yeah.
I took a picture of the back.
Yeah.
And it is really tasty.
From the country of Georgia.
So yes.
Crazy.
Seriously, crazy.
That there is a country named Georgia or that it came from there.
It's sweet, but not too sweet.
Yeah.
It's like it's perfect for like after you've had that really good meal, you know.
This was produced in 2022.
It's like after I take a big dump.
And I'm like, oh my God, what made me feel better?
Oh, that's what I was thinking.
I was thinking this drink would make me feel better.
After a dump?
I'm just thinking something.
I don't think that you're going to.
It doesn't have to be a dump, but I'm just saying in general.
Is there a lot of fiber in this?
I think fiber dump.
No, no, that's not what I was referring to.
I'm just saying this is like the feeling I get when I feel accomplished.
This is like a fantastic taste.
So have I've never had brandy.
Yeah.
How does this compare to brandy?
It's not.
It's less sweet.
Yeah.
Brandy is less sweet?
Yes.
100%.
No.
Yeah.
And the other thing is basically whiskey.
The other thing that you have to remember is every spirit has different levels.
So like he was saying, it's like ports, like port.
And even they said it's like could be similar to port, but ports going to taste different
depending on who makes it.
And if it's port port or port, though, you know, like it, there's all these things, but
I just know this is delicious.
I like it.
Yes.
Yeah, I've got support.
Thank you, Georgia, for your vixen.
You have fingered my finger in my mouth.
Yes.
Wow.
And and Sean's lips.
A lot more of Sean, actually.
I'm vibrating.
Right.
Well, what I was going to get to is what's on everybody's TV and news feed or the stink
of fires out in California.
And I know there's all kinds of conspiracies and we've heard one thing after another.
But I've seen some of this footage where there's complete neighborhoods that are gone.
I think the day 100 percent got up and and a lot of them don't have insurance.
Yeah.
Meaning why?
Well, state fire is that well, because I pulled out.
Well, California changed the regulations and it made it very expensive for the company
last summer.
Yeah.
Prior to this.
Yes.
Last summer.
Very satisfied.
And then and then State Farm was like it's too expensive to operate in California.
Boom.
I'm out.
And then, you know, hydrate the land.
Think about so think about life in California.
Right.
Everything is expensive.
If you're lucky enough to have a home, the home is like worth a ton.
Well, this is all generational for the most part.
Yes.
It's generational where it's passed down from the parents to the kids.
And the house is worth a ton.
And they're always debating.
When do we sell?
And then move to like a cheaper state where there's no taxes.
And they don't have they have no insurance.
They just lost literally generational everything.
So I will say that there's there's two there's two sides to this.
So like, first of all, like if you look at Florida with the hurricanes, they've taken
away like flood insurance.
So like all those people are like my whole family lives in Florida.
They're all fucked.
But if you look at California, there is so much protection on the land.
And I love the land.
I love the earth.
I think there should be like all these standards for the earth so that we are not because global
warming is real.
Like I'm seeing it on the grape side.
Like I'm seeing it in in in all the studies that I'm doing.
And it's definitely real.
But whether you believe in it or not, California has these standards.
Like if you buy a vineyard, let's say you buy a vineyard.
You can't you can't move a rock, a single rock.
You cannot move a single rock off your vineyard.
It has to stay there.
They can use dynamite and they can move it to a different spot on the property, but they
are not allowed to remove it.
Same thing with the brush, the underbrush.
The regulations are out of it.
I agree.
But but like I get the the the behind the intention.
I get the intention of it, but they can't.
So if you have all this brush, it's like a starter.
You're basically that's what's happening here because they haven't.
What's called managing your forest, right?
Right.
The news a lot.
But you can't.
And they haven't been able to do that.
But that's why that's right.
That's why it's a tinderbox.
One hundred percent.
But you need to.
Regardless of what animal you may disrupt, especially right, because human life is more
important than a bird.
Yes.
And in the areas where there aren't major problems or particular structures where there's
not major problems, they have done vegetation management.
Yeah.
And in like driving through that area, it's very sad.
Yeah.
In particular, the what is it?
Jerry Jerry Mansion.
Who?
G.E.R.R.Y.
I don't know that one.
OK, well, it's the very is that like the play playboy very famous mansion, very famous.
Maybe I'm wrong.
No, that's what I was thinking.
No, but it's it's no.
Yeah.
J.E.R.R.Y.
I've never heard.
So it's the one from Rosebud.
The what the hell was that?
Yes.
I think it.
Yes.
The.
Citizen Kane.
There you go.
The Citizen Kane.
The mansion.
Elwood's tea.
Gravage.
Close, Sean.
That might be it.
Anyway, so listen, so listen, there is a massive man.
Mansion that is also a museum that has all these amazing antiquities, right?
Yeah.
And they have an entire team that is responsible for managing that property.
OK.
They have been clearing for years, clearing brush, clearing everything to keep it protected
from wildfires.
Right.
And they have a command center when the fires broke out, a command center on who's doing
what, where they are, all private, you know, blah, blah, blah.
Completely save the museum, completely save the mansion.
Wow.
I have a lot of friends in California and not just getty, not Jerry.
Getty.
Oh, it's getting my bad.
Getty.
Yep, there it is.
Oh, wow.
That's not a mansion.
That's like a fortress.
It's a museum.
Oh, really?
The whole thing.
I haven't been to one like that before.
Do you see the clearing?
Look at the clearing.
Yeah.
That's not coincidence, what you're looking at right there.
Right.
They cleared all that brush and trees and they know.
How are they allowed to do it but no one else?
There we go.
I don't think they're allowed to.
Right?
We might be getting in trouble.
Are they just doing it?
They saved the whole thing.
Yeah.
And, you know, like my friends are from California.
Like I'm watching their news feed.
That was different, by the way.
That's a different Getty.
Yeah.
I'm watching their feeds from the things that are going to get shut down like TikTok, but
Instagram and stuff.
And they're showing these fires and they're saying that they feel like there was like
five separate points where they started these fires.
Yes.
It wasn't like maybe it was intentional.
Yeah, that's what the news is.
Yeah, that's what they're leaning towards.
This is arson.
Yeah.
100%.
Yeah.
And I don't know because I'm not there.
I don't know enough to know anything.
But what is hard is like it is it's it's hard to be in a place where, yes, you're seeing
people that like, oh my God, my mansion, blah, blah, blah.
Like cool, but they don't have insurance.
Like this is not like maybe for the multimillionaires, maybe it's not a hard loss.
Like I don't know.
I mean, probably still suck if you're a multimillionaire.
But for like the regular folk, it's like it's really hard.
You know, you're gone.
Even for the wealthy.
Yeah.
I mean, for what?
A twenty three million dollar mansion that's not insured.
Yeah, that's how much my house cost.
Right.
Exactly.
Mine's just a shade under a little bit.
Just a shade under that.
My house, what you're in is above that.
Oh, really?
Very nice.
Frisco.
It's so much.
Houses have gotten way up.
Very nice.
No, I'm see.
I think you I'd sell it.
Retire.
You made a good point, Heather.
It's easy to like not have empathy, maybe because they're all millionaire, billionaire,
not billionaire, right, right, right.
Multi-millionaire actors and stuff like that.
But when you lose your home and it's uninsured and you lose all your everything, you lose
everything.
Yeah, I think about it like I would be super sad.
Like I have my dad's ashes, my photo albums.
I've got my cat.
Like if my cat died, like my kids, that would be awful.
But my cat, like, is this the same twenty five thousand dollar cat?
My twenty five thousand dollars.
Yeah, you don't want to lose that thing.
I can't lose her.
No, definitely not.
And in my Jeep.
Oh my God.
Well, where do we think all these people are going to relocate to?
I'm probably Texas.
Yeah, I agree.
And they're all going to get probably Nevada.
They're all going to get the bottom and get cyber trunks.
They're going to get cyber trunks.
I hate those.
I think Nevada is going to be a big boon.
Boon.
I agree.
And I know what's OK.
So Nevada doesn't have a great price per per square foot.
They're not going to move there.
They're going to be smart.
And always be cheaper than California.
Well, they're going to be like all the other Californians are going to move to Texas.
Well, my dad lived in lived in Nevada and all the Californians are moving there.
Yeah.
I thought they were all moving here, which I'm fine.
Well, they are.
Well, they're moving out of California is the big thing.
They're also moving into Utah, Arizona, Arizona, Nevada.
The ones that don't want to go far, they just don't want to go far or they're anti-tax.
That's where they're moving.
Or they're anti-Texas.
Right.
Because there's a stigma about Texas.
Yeah.
So they're going to go to Nevada and Utah and Arizona.
Hundred percent.
And Colorado.
Yep.
I once I once had a cup made and it was the little mermaid on it and it said I want to
be where the people aren't.
Oh, that's where I'm moving.
Where is that in Texas?
Well, it's in pre-rot.
There's like maybe a population of thirty two people.
Pre-rot.
That's in Spain.
It's in Spain.
Yeah.
It's great.
Interesting.
So you want to be the twenty fourth person?
I do.
And my cat, would she be twenty five?
My husband would probably be twenty six.
What about your husband?
Your husband counts.
Yeah, he'd count.
You wouldn't appreciate that old cat though.
My cat's a baby.
She's my baby.
How old is your cat?
She's eleven or twelve.
She's around there.
I mean, I rescued her when she was.
OK, I'm going to try to do math and now I'm a little tipsy.
Like I was not at the beginning, but I am now a little tipsy.
It's the Vixen.
Just a little.
Oh, the music.
After four hours.
Just a little.
OK, hold on.
Yeah.
I'm going to try to do math, but I didn't drink that much.
So, OK, she was six years old when I got her and that was in 2019.
So I'm going to do the math.
So how much money do you need to spend to make her live until one hundred fifty?
I will spend a million dollars if it keeps her alive.
She is my soulmate.
I am being buried with her when she dies.
My husband already knows this.
She's dragging her back legs.
She's so cute.
My most famous TikTok is her.
Her walking on her Ziggy do, which is her wheel, is my most famous TikTok.
But as long as it's important to her.
She's walking on her wheel and she's just the cat you have now.
The twenty five thousand dollar cat.
Yeah.
And everybody that's my.
What do you mean on a wheel?
On a cat wheel.
That won't matter after Sunday, by the way.
Oh, I thought you meant like a harness.
No, she's on a cat wheel.
She's walking.
No, she's walking on the cat wheel.
What is happening?
I got confused.
All right.
This is actually the thing.
It has been fun.
Thank you so much for having me.
Taz Fun.
Thank you very much.
You're welcome.
I am so hammered right now.
My God.
Thank you.
That was having much.
Now, it's been fun.
This has been great.
Thanks for featuring Wine.
Well, we really enjoyed it.
And I've been we've been truly I know I have been trying to get Paul in the wine more and
more because I think it's going to open up quite a bit of experience because there's
wineries to visit.
Shit like that.
That's a visit that you can shit like that stuff stuff like that to finger his palate.
Yes.
I need to figure it out.
Wait, no, hold on.
I what I mean is I'm sending a video to his church.
All right, Sean, sign us out if you can.
I will check us out.
Do like us.
Go where we go.
Go ahead.
We've got to.
We've got a first one.
Oh, no.
So that some from tax.
Close.
Yeah, some from tax.
Put the paper down.
Hey, hey, it just say that song from Texas or that song from TX, just depending on how
you look at it.
Yeah, that's so and so.
And check us out.
Check us out on do like us.
Our.
And that's good enough.
Yes.
And what's your name?
I'm Sean.
And I am Jeff.
Heather.
There you go.
God Almighty.
We're out.
Good night.
We've lost Sean.
We're out.