Oh my gosh.
Sheldt's having beer panic attack.
I didn't want to put the wet beer on the
Jep's Bar, Dutakus coaster, and ruin it.
These things are the last. I've got 300 more.
Be very careful with each one.
So the music is in my right ear.
It's always something. Just deal with it.
There's always something, man. I'll fix that later.
His eyes are going to start twitching.
I gotta fix it now!
If I have a seizure it's because somehow the music is in my right ear.
Oh, I didn't put it on there. Oh my bad.
It's okay. It's funny. I think it's funny.
Alright, here we are. Second half.
And we're drinking something slightly more potent.
So this might be an interesting second half.
Yeah, we'll see.
We will.
Oh my gosh. It's slightly...
Actually, well, hold on.
It doesn't drink that way. We'll talk about it.
It does not drink that way.
Sean just vomited, I think.
Oh my god. You ever had those burps that were so long and volatile that your eyes just tear up?
That's actually never happened.
Did it come down from your taint was rattling?
It was guttural. It just came out.
Oh yeah. Those feel good.
A lot of references to taint tonight.
Well, you guys are having a discussion that male taints are 60% larger than female.
Let me...
Let me clarify. That would be Sean.
Dudes Like Us, I'm Sean.
I'm Paul. And I'm Jeff.
Let me elaborate on what's going on here.
Check us out on Dudes Like Us podcast or Woodcraft through Facebook or Instagram.
I had an experience I want to talk about real quick.
I was irritated.
I'm not irritated anymore, but I was irritated as hell.
I rented a vehicle through Hertz.
Alright?
I'm curious how this is going to turn back to taints.
Yeah, I know.
Well, actually it is. It will. 100% will.
I'm going to pump through this as quick as I can.
I went on.
My son comes up to visit.
He doesn't have a ride back because he came with his girlfriend.
I was like, fuck it. I'll just rent a car.
You take the car back and you just turn it in there.
But we didn't really know exactly what was going to happen.
All I did was get a car.
I picked it up because the local one here in Frisco doesn't have cars available.
You have to go to the airport.
I went to Love Field Airport.
Pain in the ass.
I picked it up.
The thing is, when I was filling out the online,
where I would check it out,
Like your preferences of what kind of car you want?
Plus, I'm a gold member of President's Circle.
Ooooooooh!
Yeah, it's a real thing.
I'm kind of a big deal over there.
So I fill out the thing I do all the time,
and this little thing pops up.
Hey man, you want to save a few bucks?
Are you gay? You can prepay.
I don't prepay.
Prepay for the car.
I never do it before in the past.
I don't prepay because I don't care.
But this one was like, hey man, you want to save a couple bucks?
And you said yes.
I just clicked on it.
Let's do it. Let's save some fucking money.
It's Christmas time.
So I pick up the car.
We're home.
It's time to head back.
What kind of car was it?
It doesn't matter.
It was irrelevant.
Little Hyundai Kona.
It was cool. It was functional.
Tiny, tiny SUV.
The whole thing is I asked for a Buick.
It was supposed to be a small Buick SUV.
Which I was kind of looking forward to.
The Enclave.
No, not the Enclave.
The one smaller than that.
It was actually kind of cute.
I saw it driving by and I was like, fuck.
That's spiritual.
I get the car.
And Preston is about to head back.
I'm going to just take the fucking car.
I'm fine.
And I go back.
Because this is what I normally do.
You can change stuff on the fly.
Hey, look, I'm not going to drop it off here.
I'm going to drop it off there.
Because on the website, it's kind of difficult when you want to return it.
Because some places aren't open.
Some places are open.
But at airports, they're open 24-7.
So you just click on it and then you just change it whenever you need it.
Without thinking that was what was going to happen for Hertz.
But a big middle finger to Hertz.
I'm telling you.
I'm so burnt out with them.
But I'm dug in.
Because I've got a relationship with them.
Because you have all these loyalty points.
And I'm going to stick with them.
But at the same time, I'm like, come on, guys.
Do better.
Do better, Hertz.
So I call them up.
And I'm like, hey, I can't.
Oh, by the way, you get on the phone.
On the website.
I went to the website.
And you guys gave me the middle finger saying error.
I couldn't change it.
So I call them up.
They're like, yeah, you can't change it because you're under a contract.
You said pay in advance.
And it creates a contract.
And I was like, yeah, technically you guys already broke that contract.
When I didn't get the Buick.
Did you say bitch, please?
No.
Bitch, please.
And so they were
this was Saturday.
And they were like, yeah, sorry.
So now I'm digging in.
Even though they knew.
Did they have any idea who you thought you were?
That you're a gold elite member?
Well, it didn't matter.
I wasn't going to argue.
And I didn't have time to argue because Preston was literally on the road.
Unbeknownst to me, he came over to Jeff's house.
But that saved me a few minutes because I was on the phone with him the whole time.
But I thought he was on the road like 20 minutes.
I was like, fuck, I got to ask him to turn around and come back.
So I was like, yeah, sorry.
I'm going to come back.
So I was like, fuck it, man.
I said, Preston, you need to get back because I got to drive you to College Station from Frisco, Texas.
Drive to College Station and come back because Hertz will not let you return it there.
It has a big middle finger up their butt.
I'm disappointed.
So anyways, that happened.
And so that consumed my whole Saturday.
And I was salty about the whole thing.
I would have been.
In retrospect, you know.
You're talking about six hours of driving, bro.
I do enjoy going down to where Preston lives.
I do. We enjoy. I enjoy hanging out with him in the car for the for the two or three or three and a half hours, whatever it was.
You know, and that's your line.
Silver lining of the. Yeah, it was.
And that's where here come the tape thing.
So we're we're listening to the Joe Rogan podcast.
They're talking about see if you can Google the Jizz Quiz.
I want to find out who this doctor is.
The Jizz Quiz.
It may show up. It may not.
But there's a female doctor that that came up with.
Let's see here.
Let's see. Yeah, it is. That's our Shannon.
Shannon Swan. So she's actually she was on the podcast, which the Jizz Quiz we don't need to actually look at that.
But the Shana Swann said something about how the man's taint is larger than the females by 60 to 100 percent longer.
And I just thought that just stuck in my mind.
So we were talking about earlier in the green room and I kind of meant.
So how do they measure the taint?
Is it like from the butthole to what section of the underball?
I thought it was a lighter, a lighter.
What's the thing on LIDAR? LIDAR.
They measure it, but it has to be really up close.
So what's the demarcation line that says, OK, this is the ball sack.
This is where the taint starts.
Excellent questions, Jeff. Excellent.
Is there a seam? These are good.
So what I'd like to especially our listener in Helsinki, Finland.
Well, he wants to know about this. I can promise you.
I'm almost certain he knows the answer because everybody knows that the fringe of the scrotum is the clear line marker from the fringe of the scrotum up to the anus hole.
Yes. Well, and this is to the middle of the anus hole or just to the I would imagine it's just to the edge because to the edge.
But it doesn't really matter because when you're dealing with numbers like 60 to 100 percent bigger, it doesn't matter.
The point is in the noise is that it's in the hair.
I was thinking there's more of a space, but there's not.
And this segment is brought to you by Hertz.
Yeah, thanks, Hertz. You did this to me because had I not been in that car, I wouldn't have had to listen to that podcast and I wouldn't have had that conversation.
And you wouldn't have bonded over taint links with your son.
And here's the other thing. Well, first of all, I did enjoy the trip because I went and I hung out with him at his work and I had lunch and then I drove back.
It's really not. It is three and a half hours, but the three and a half hours goes by pretty quick. It really does.
Did you stop at Buc-ee's? I didn't stop anywhere. It's like straight through just right back home.
So the thing is, is that I have to return the car Monday morning back to the source in which I got it from Lovefield.
So I called them up. Well, first of all, on Sunday, I called Chuck. I'm like, hey, Chuck, I'm kind of a predicament.
And I usually ask Jeff, but I'm kind of spreading myself thin with everybody.
I want to I want to spread the hate so you get to enjoy one of these. He's got to get him off that day and under his breath, I can hear him.
A fucking asshole. I clearly heard that it was it was almost audible.
But I kind of read between the lines. So I got him prepped for it.
And then Monday morning I call up and I call this the number again and they they totally change it.
They did a reverse. But I had to fight for it.
So the difference from the Saturday conversation and the Monday morning conversation, which had you returned it to College Station?
No, well, it sucked. No. But what they said is that I can return it back in Frisco because I was kind of like they were like, no, your contract says you have to return it to the airport.
And I was kind of like, all right, I want you to I want you to think outside the box here.
I mean, honestly, you just answer me off the record. Is this an absurd thing or what?
I mean, you're asking me to drive an hour to the airport as opposed to five minutes to the the Hertz. That's right here.
Right. I mean, what that doesn't make sense to me at all.
Be honest with me. Does that make sense? I know the contract says that. But come on. I mean, this is Texas. It's Frisco.
You guys are that that location never has cars. So they're going to be super happy that there's an extra freaking car.
Right. It's money forever. It's a win win. And my name is Sean. No, I didn't say any of that.
I'm a gold platinum. The president's son. I have a gold president.
I'm in the president's circle. You know what that means?
Quite honestly, I don't know why they were giving you grief. Obviously, it means nothing because that's what I thought.
Dude, no, I'm being serious now for them to give you any grief at all for you being in the circle.
Bullshit. That's like being in a crystal platinum on on American Airlines.
Whatever you want, they do. They just do. Yes.
Cars all the time. I know you do. Like literally every week. Almost.
You know, but whatever. But they changed the whole thing. So I'm thinking, well, that was nice of them.
It was. It was nice. And I'm thankful. But at the same time, I'm like, could you just do that with the college station thing and avoided the whole God bless and trip?
Right. I mean, it's a double edged sword. Take the silver lining. I did take it. I enjoyed time with my son.
And now you know that men's taints are bigger than women's taints. Yeah, that was crazy.
That's actually the most important part of the story. And that they're actually called the women's is not called a taint.
It's a perineum. Yeah. Why don't you walk us through that? Because you mentioned something about how you would massage your wives.
I did that. But that's that's an exercise that you could use to relieve the pain. You learn this how you let some other man massage her.
No, we we skipped that doctor. No, we took the I would say Lamaze class, but we took some birthing class.
And that was one of the suggestions that when they get here and they start having the contractions, you can massage their perineum, stick your thumb in and just kind of.
What rub? OK. And it relieves. You know, that is I'm very we did not do that.
I get that it probably does cause some sort of relief for them. But at the same time, have they met us?
We have a penis between our legs. If our hands get anywhere remotely to that area, it slips.
It's it's even if it's contracting, it's like it's like a Super Mario Brothers mushroom.
You start running across the room at high speed and then you hear ding ding ding ding.
She's yelling at you like there's a baby coming out and you want to put your dick in.
What? Jeff, you misunderstood us. Oh, I don't know where you went with that one.
I don't know. Wow. Well, you said you you did it. OK. You massage.
So this is the second half of the podcast. So we did because I don't know.
I don't know if we want to talk about this, but remember when did mention is when women were third 30th when women give birth, it can apesia to me.
You know, that's where they cut and make a little bit of a little heart. Correct.
And it's not fun to watch. I watched it. It looks extremely painful.
So which way do they cut it up or down? They cut it. They cut it towards the anus.
Yes. So they shorten the. Oh, wow. So they they the taint.
What do they call the perineum? Yes. Perineum.
So they they. So the perineum is a disposable little strip of skin down there.
No, no, no, no. They're not cutting it off. They're no, they they're slicing it.
We're splitting it to give more room for the baby. Good Lord.
Is that because they didn't allow time for it to dilate correctly?
Sometimes the babies are just too big. They're too big. Whoa. Yeah.
I cannot believe we're talking about this, but it's a fascinating topic anyway.
So in prep for this, they say you can massage that area because it's likely and possible
that that has to happen. The appeasing might have to happen.
And it makes that surgical procedure easier and less traumatic.
If it's like a massage of that, I don't know, there's a muscle there.
Correct. And it doesn't have to be a doing doing ding ding ding ding moment.
Like I'm going to have to go. I'm about to pull the yellow card on this whole top.
So you had to do that in the hospital in front of everyone?
Well, we did it for months beforehand over and over again every night.
Well, this is shit. Dudes go through not everybody, but certain dudes have to deal with this.
The face. The face is why we need videos. Yes.
Seeing the pain, the pain that he's going through.
By the time my wife had her fourth kid, poor Austin, he was like coming out of there.
I mean, I had a baseball glove. It's got him.
Same here. Except for Preston. He wasn't the same.
He came out kind of what they call that comes out. It was a breach.
It was crazy. Preston. Oh, shit. Oh, dude. It was crazy.
He came out. He had to like twist them. And I was kind of dude, you're going to fucking kill him.
And he was like twisting his neck all sideways. They don't fuck around.
Like it can be a tense, very tense. It's going to happen fast.
And he was good. He was good. He knew exactly what to do.
And me, I've been looking at him and I'm and you know, I know why guys pass out their labor.
It's because we're we're pacing their breathing like.
Then we just like pass out. You hyperventilate.
Dude, I don't know. You know, we could tell lots of stories about how that whole experience went.
But remember, my wife did no med. All three natural births.
So she had to go into her cocoon of pain management and I had to coach her through it.
And it was a it was an experience, man. And we and for Dawson, we had scary moments.
Lost the heartbeat. People run in and out of the room.
You know, all this kind of crazy stuff going on. It was it was scary.
It can be. Yeah, I can be very an emotional, traumatic.
Tara did one of those. Yeah. Emily was without anything.
You know, she was just like, I think at the time, because we didn't have insurance.
So we had to pay cash. Right. It was like it was like thirteen thousand dollars.
Gee, out of pocket. Right. There you go. And Tara was like in her methodology was like,
I'm going to save thirty five hundred bucks and just skip to the the the drugs.
I'm all the stuff that is involved. Yeah. Right. And yeah.
After what she's like, yeah, I'll spend the next time.
Well, actually, she did say that she did say that.
But she also she really sincerely wanted to to have that experience.
So, yeah, she did say that was the reason.
But she really did want to have that experience.
And then after that, she was kind of like, yeah, yeah, fuck that.
No, no, no. Then the two boys came out, you know, Preston.
He's fucking Fred Flintstone. He came out and she was like, good God.
She he broke that system. Yeah. Brandon, when Brandon came out,
the apesiotomy was not enough. Oh, yeah. He's big boy.
He's big. He was big. He's like Bam Bam. Yeah.
And he was he was a bloody mess when he came out.
The doctor held him up for the picture. He was just like, like Carrie.
There's this from Alien. No, from the movie Carrie.
No. So so the decision was Queen drenched in blood.
Yeah. The decision was made since Brandon was so large.
You know, that's that's what he looked like.
Oh, no, Mr. Producer. OK. Yeah.
That's not a good face, but that's really not a good visual.
Fire eyeballs. Yeah. The decision was made since Brandon was so large
in the complication that Stephen was going to be a C section.
Oh, yeah. So was he? Yeah. Stephen was. Oh, I get it.
Yeah. You don't want to go through that twice because Brandon was was so large for
cause it's problems. It is funny that you say the fourth one was like
super like Austin was super cool. Yeah. Yeah.
But Austin wasn't as big either. Yeah. For Brody, it was like, oh, honey, I think I
could. Yeah.
I mean, it's like, oh, OK, I got you.
I'm sure our female listeners out there, we got these guys are fucking dip charts.
They have no idea what they're talking about until they pass birth.
They can just shut the hell up. We don't know what that experience is like,
but we know what the experience is like. 100 percent as a father being there.
It was a trip, man. And we played a big role.
I played a big role. I mean, I was her little contraction machine
was going up and up and down and you were massaging it.
No. And she was in her cocoon.
She wasn't speaking. Her eyes were closed the whole time.
And so I was like, OK, I don't know what to do or say.
You're like, I'm going for a beer. You won't know how I left.
I was like, you know, anyway, but no, seriously, I was telling you.
No, that's not true. It was Jack and Coke.
Of course. No, back then it was a California cooler.
No, or the Zima. Probably Zima.
It was it. Robin Coke. It would have been Captain Morgan.
Which they didn't let me have in the room.
I was like, that's bullshit. You know what I'm paying for?
Anyway, so I was watching the machine and I told her it's peaked.
I was just talking to her and tell her I know she did not say a word.
Her eyes were closed the whole time.
And I would tell her it's because coming down, it's coming down.
Shelly's not here. Only pretty much.
And then later she told me you were so helpful.
And I was like, well, like what?
I was stood there, you know, being supportive.
But when I told her that it peaked, she couldn't tell.
Like in her body, she just felt it was like intense and high.
And she was like, oh, my God, I don't know if I can keep doing this.
And then I told her it's peaked and she was like, oh, it's coming down.
I can do this. You know what I mean?
Going back up? Just kidding.
That's a false peak.
You son of a bitch.
This machine is fucked up, man.
Anyway, it was it was a trip, man.
It was a trip. Anyway, wow.
And you're still married. We have literally right.
We have literally never talked about that before.
That was a fascinating topic.
One of the things that happened when Brandon was born, Julie had so much water, amniotic fluid or whatever you want to call it.
Oh, yeah. She was very, very large.
Her stomach. I mean, he was big, so he had a lot of water.
And they had to induce what do you want to call it?
Break the water? Yeah.
So he went in there with his little little hook or whatever.
It's like a creepy little hook.
Yeah. So he went up there and he pulled it in this water.
Went all over him. He's like, no one's gotten me in like five years.
He goes, that's incredible.
He squared it all over him.
Fucking bunny shot, huh?
It went all over the floor. I was standing there holding her hand.
Next thing I know, I was in tube socks. Next thing I knew, my socks were drenched.
Hold on. Hold on. Stop. You were in fucking tube socks?
I was in tube socks.
Did they have a go fast tripod?
No, they were just white ones.
You were not dressed appropriately then, huh?
No. And then.
You need your duck boots.
Everyone knows you should have worn glosses.
And what's funny is I was standing there in all this amniotic fluid on the floor.
And then they covered her up.
And then her brother came in to visit with her.
And I took my socks off. I was like, here, Don, can you hold these for me?
You did not. Just to fuck with him?
No, I wasn't even thinking. I was like, can you do something with these?
Your tube socks, you took them off?
Yes, because they were just soaked.
He's like, here, smell these.
And he still brings it up to this day. He's like, you wanted me to hold my sister's embryonic fluid.
Embryonic fluid socks. Wow.
It was bad. It was warm. Warmed my feet up.
Oh, that is crazy.
That was a little too much.
That was a lot.
Quite an experience, though. That's a different experience.
But you were there for all four births, obviously, right?
All four. And I will share something that's a little embarrassing and life changing for me.
I think I know this story.
Oh, do you?
So when my first son was born, which is child number three,
I had a career where I was doing construction during the day and doing whatever it took to make money.
So construction during the day, and I was a disc jockey at night.
Right.
And I was out on a gig and I got drunk. Long story short, I was drunk.
And my wife went into labor and I struggled getting there.
Ouch.
And I swore from that day forward that would never, ever happen again.
And it has, but it.
Not while she was pregnant.
It happened for the next baby.
It has, but it didn't happen until they were like two decades later.
And so I stuck to it. I was like, I will never, ever put my family in a position to where I will be too inebriated to take care of them.
It was life changing because I was kind of like I failed.
I felt like a failure.
Nobody else knew because nobody knew I was drunk.
They kind of thought he's drunk, you know, but they didn't know.
Yeah, I knew. Yeah, they didn't know.
And you just reeked of Grand Marnier.
Do I get to break the water?
Or pinch?
No, none of that was there because there was no one else there.
It was just me because it was in the middle of the night.
Oh, right. So it was just me.
So the mother, no one else was there.
Excuse me.
But anyways, so the point is, is that it's kind of a life changing thing for me.
And these things like self realization things.
That's a good. That's a good one, though.
It was. It is good.
And I'm thankful that I had it.
I wasn't thankful that it went through.
It wasn't actually when he was.
I misspoke.
It wasn't when he was born.
It was prior to that because she was having issues with her ambiotic fluid being low
and that she had to go to the hospital in an emergency, you know, and I was notified.
And her mom couldn't get there in time.
And I was on my way.
It is just it was just I know what you mean.
So I showed up and it was late and I could have been there sooner.
She was thankful I was there.
And, you know, I fell asleep next to her.
You know, you imagine me fucking snoring, right?
Yeah.
Fucking symphony.
Fart everywhere, too.
Just vocal flatulence.
Just going everywhere.
Did the hospital staff ask you to leave?
They're like, we need to get him a CPAP.
There it is. 23 straight.
There we go.
Congratulations.
I recommend for all those people out there to get a CPAP machine.
This moment brought to you by Med-Res.
The last one, you're like, well, if I don't need one, I'm not going to get one.
I don't snore anymore. I lost weight.
Fuck you.
That was you, Jeff, on the last one.
It was. I don't know about the fuck you.
But yeah, I don't believe I said that.
Now, we read between the lines.
Anyways, those are those are important things.
We had a plan on talking about this.
That was not on the board.
It was not.
But with, you know, with life comes death and there have been some deaths in significant ones this week.
So one punch I've been bad.
I think we should start.
We'll leave the big one.
They're all big.
Well, probably the most popular one.
Right. So Chuck brought up Linda Lavin.
So she I had to look her up.
She's Alice.
Yeah, that's the only thing I know her from.
I feel stupid for Alice.
OK, Alice, what show like like Alice?
It's called Alice.
She's a waitress in a diner.
Can you give me a still or flow ever with Mel?
And there was that one woman on there.
Man, you can kiss my grits.
Those flow when donkeys fly.
Give me give me a YouTube short of this because I'm struggling.
No, it's Alice.
There you go.
Would I recognize it?
I would immediately recognize it.
Right.
See if you pull up a little video.
Oh, yes.
Well, to me, that's I got confused that maybe that was part of play a little Greece lightning, not lightning, but tapped on you.
What?
What am I thinking of?
Oh, yeah.
I know exactly who you're talking about.
Night, Calvin.
It's not going to be a good night for me.
It must be love.
Look at the era.
It's kind of crazy.
Just hates to see Calvin leave.
So do I.
The only customer we've had all night.
Mel.
Yeah, the only person coming in here now.
Which one's Alice?
Her?
No, that's Flo.
That's Flo.
The one is Alice is at the sit down.
Yeah, she's countertips right there.
Yeah.
Coins.
She was the pretty one of the three.
Whatever.
Anyways, I watched that show.
I watched it.
OK, I recognize it.
I recognize it now.
How do I stop?
So she passed away.
How old?
Just for my body.
How old was she?
Seventy three.
Am I calling that correctly?
I have no idea who she was.
I think we're good with that.
Yeah, thank you.
That was perfect.
I didn't follow her career, so I don't know.
I watched Alice.
She was born in 1937.
So she was 87 years old.
Oh, that's a good amount.
Yeah, she made a good run.
You know, anything past the 75 marker, what is it?
73 to 76?
Yeah, 74 to 70.
Who knows what it is for the women.
Five foot three.
And you know, we know her.
Like Sessions.
Right.
And we know her for that show.
But the reality is she probably had 20 years of Broadway.
Yeah, that's just it.
I'm looking at it.
And she had something called L. Smith in 2024.
Oh, that show's on right now.
Yeah, I don't watch it.
But yeah.
Tony Award.
She was in the Muppets Take Manhattan.
Really?
Very nice.
It's Superman.
She's on a couple of movies.
Nice.
She had a long career here.
I haven't seen her.
And the thing is, we probably have seen her.
You probably have.
You just don't realize who it was.
That's right.
Yeah.
Well, that's outstanding.
She was in Barney Miller as well.
Was she really?
Rest in peace.
That's what it says.
Lovely actress, lovely career, lovely life.
Excellent.
All right.
And who?
The other one was.
Did we already talk about the?
We talked about Brian Gumbel, so we don't have to talk about him too much.
But the big one, in my opinion, is Jim Carter.
Yes.
The president.
President Carter.
Jimmy Carter.
You know what's crazy is how he died.
I mean, well, he was 100.
Well, he died of old age.
But I mean.
I was going to say, what was he, skydiving?
What happened?
He tackled a horse.
Because he had cancer.
He had melanoma.
For real?
Skin cancer.
Yeah, he had skin cancer.
Oh, no shit.
And he beat it.
And he lived for another 13 years.
Good for him.
Now, he was the peanut farmer.
Yes.
That was his brother.
Billy.
Carter.
Billy Carter.
Yeah, he was the peanut farmer.
Yeah.
So Billy Beer.
Remember Billy Beer?
No.
Yeah, that Billy Beer back in the late 70s as well.
You know, I mean, Jimmy Carter was supposed to be one of the worst presidents ever.
Yeah, he wasn't a great president, but he apparently was a super peaceful man.
He was very, you know.
He's probably right where the Democrats need to be right now.
And, you know, he was in the middle.
He was not effective president, though.
No, he was not.
He was a one term, man.
Yeah, Reagan beat his ass.
Yeah, that's right.
Oh, absolutely, because things were failing.
Then Reagan came in and...
Yeah, and he was the one that had the Iran hostages.
The hostages, yeah.
And then Reagan came in and...
Reagan just annihilated that.
Well, and maybe on the last...
I think they released him in the store.
Actually, on the last podcast, I asked why, like what did Reagan do or say to make them
release him on day one?
But you guys were saying that they knew they could, you know, get away with it or maybe...
I don't know.
Yeah.
I don't know either.
I don't know what...
I was 11 when Reagan got elected.
So it's similar to what Trump getting to office right now.
They can anticipate what's going on because, look, there's people overseas right now, the
terrorist organizations, the Iranians, all these people that are like, we know that we
could take advantage...
Any time the Americans have a Democrat in office, we could do whatever the fuck we want.
Well, especially Biden, because he's not in control.
I'll give it to Obama.
He was there when they took out bin Laden.
Bin Laden.
Yeah.
So I'll give him that.
Yeah, but then he blew the intelligence of it.
Did you hear what happened on that one?
No, what happened there?
Also, they did the raid in Pakistan, right, and they got all his computers and they were
like, they got this trove of information and they were desperate to keep it quiet so they
could chase down all the people, hook together the network that's involved with bin Laden,
and then go get them.
But Obama was so eager to tell the nation that...
We have all the computers?
No, that we got bin Laden.
So as soon as they announced that they had got bin Laden, the network connected to him,
poof.
Right.
Bane it.
Disappointed.
Just like that.
Yep.
And the intelligence agency was like, you mother...
So Jimmy Carter, born and raised in Plains, Georgia, graduate from the US Naval Academy
in 1946, joined the US Navy, submarine services, returned home after military service to his
family, peanut growing business before a beginning of career in Georgia politics where he supported
this movement as a state senator and later a governor.
He won the 76 Democratic presidential nomination as a dark horse candidate.
Probably need to find out what is a dark horse.
Dark horse is the what?
The underdog, right?
The unlikely candidate?
Yeah, the unlikely candidate.
So defeating Gerald Ford.
So what was up with Gerald Ford?
Gerald Ford took over for Nixon.
Right.
He was almost like a...
He was a transitory.
Yeah.
This guy was a quality individual, Jimmy Carter was.
He might've been an ineffective president, but he was a quality human being and everyone
is in agreement on that.
I think so.
He was a centralist, I think, mostly.
You know what?
Look, he had a long life.
That's the way most Democrats were back in the day.
They weren't what they are today.
Yeah.
They're not left.
They're not progressive, bullshitty people.
Wokey.
So, but I wonder...
That's absurd.
I wonder now that Biden is done.
They consider Carter one of the worst of all times.
I don't know if they'd say Trump is too, just because they're pissed off at him.
But I discount that.
I wonder how they're going to weigh Biden in these last, basically this last year of
his administration.
I mean, what did he really accomplish, Biden?
I don't know.
What did he accomplish?
Yeah.
I mean, you can...
Not much.
I mean, the same thing.
I mean, I wasn't there when we were, but I wasn't into politics when Jimmy Carter was
in office.
So it's hard to say.
I think it was worse during Carter, because I do remember the fuel lines.
Oh yeah.
You don't have that with Biden.
That was the...
Inflation went way up.
Unemployment went way up.
There were fuel lines where you'd see a hundred cars waiting to get gas.
Yep.
I remember that happening.
You only see that at Costco now.
People are stupid.
I know it.
They're stupid.
Go across the street and spend 50 cents more.
I know.
I think you're right.
I know.
But still, okay.
It's amazed me.
I'm kind of curious how the general people, I don't even know who it is.
Who are these people that...
I mean, when they start grading these presidents, when you ask AI...
I don't know who does this.
Oh, it's ridiculous.
It's probably like the New York Times or some conglomerate of Ivy League leaders.
I can promise you it's not based on a metric that's consistent and standard.
Mr. Producer, can you type in a new Google search engine and say, tell us who... list
the president's popularity.
Popularity or...
Or successful.
Best or worst.
Yeah, best.
There you go.
Best or worst president.
Trump's going to be dead last.
I can promise you.
I think they should use the dudes like us ranking.
Oh, that'd be a good one.
Yes.
Trump would be...
Well, that's not AI though.
He'd be one and two and three and four and five.
I said they're probably not going to list that.
Trump is...
Where's Biden?
All right, let's see here.
Okay, who's number one?
Is it Lincoln?
Lincoln, Washington, Roosevelt.
Where's Biden at?
There's Reagan.
Reagan's pretty high.
Look at that.
He should be.
I agree.
Yeah, but these lists are old.
Like the one who's up there is from 2022.
Oh, Biden's probably not even on there yet.
Obama's way too high, dude.
Come on.
Yes, I agree.
Get out of here.
I think Clinton deserves to be up there.
All right, so February 19th, 2024, they came up with a list.
There's Clinton.
I see Clinton.
He's right above Ulysses S. Grant.
HW.
Yeah, so that's not a fair assessment.
I don't think that.
That's from 2022 anyway.
It's C-span though.
That seems to have a little more credibility, maybe.
I don't know.
Donald Trump's down there at the bottom of fourth.
Oh, God.
Really?
What are they basing that on?
Yeah, it's just...
I want to know the metric, the criteria.
Well, he has points right there, right?
2021 final score, that's why Biden's not in there.
There you go.
Oh, whatever.
Well, so it's a vote.
I was thinking that AI would actually produce a list.
Typically they would.
You want to go chat GPT and say...
Well, I don't know if we have chat GPT on there.
I'm kind of curious what it says.
This is the Chucksters computer, so I don't know.
I can try it on my phone.
You want me to try that?
Ranking U.S. presidents from best to worst is inherently subjective.
Thank you with being honest.
Of course it is.
It depends on criteria used such as leadership, crisis management, policy impact or legacy.
However, there is a general ranking based on the combination of historical surveys,
scholars' opinions and public consensus.
All right, number one, Abraham Lincoln, George Strait, George Washington.
George Strait.
Yep, I know.
I didn't even know he was president.
God, what year was that?
Franklin Roosevelt, Roosevelt, two Roosevelts in a row, back to back.
Well, excuse me.
All right, mid-tier.
Truman, Eisenhower, JFK, Ronald Reagan, Barack Obama, controversial or mixed legacy presidents,
Andrew Jackson, Woodrow Wilson, Bill Clinton, George W. and Donald Trump.
Bottom presidents, Herbert Hoover, Richard Nixon, Harding, Andrew Johnson and Buchanan,
which means they haven't ranked.
I guess they haven't ranked.
What's his name?
Biden yet because he's not done.
Oh, what are we doing here?
Is this a live stream?
I don't know.
Is it a real?
We got Jeff on the Dudes Like Us podcast.
I'm doing a real.
Yeah, you just decided to...
Instagram.
You just decided to go rogue and...
I did.
That's all right.
...start filming during the podcast.
So the...
It doesn't sound like it's...
Well, you know what?
It's difficult to rank, though.
It's difficult to read some of those lists because, like it said, there's so many things
to consider.
But they had Trump in the top portion, though, it sounded like.
No, I thought it was the bottom portion.
Was it really?
I thought it...
You said it was Trump, then you said, now for the bottom portion.
Did I?
I thought...
Yeah, you said it kind of weird.
I said it weird.
Yeah, you did.
OK, no, Donald...
OK, he was in the controversial or mixed legacy present.
Mixed legacy.
Yeah, he's number 15 in the Donald Trump under George W.
Well, I mean, look...
No, I don't know.
It's very subjective.
And it said that.
We had a president die, Jimmy Carter, and he had a fantastic life.
Yeah, 100 years.
Yeah, 75 years, 76 years with his wife.
He would pop up every now and then.
He'd make some comments.
But I think for the most part, he stayed out of the limelight, didn't he?
Most of them do, other than...
Barack.
I was going to say, some of the most recent ones.
Lord Barack.
Seriously, seriously, as soon as you are done with your presidency, you're out.
We don't need to hear from you.
Ever.
Never then, nah, I mean, when they do like Pearl Harbor.
Well, I mean...
You know where all the presidents need to stand together in unity?
Yeah, that's good, too.
But when Barry...
When Barry was sitting at that promotion for Kamel Toe Harris, when he was saying, I mean,
right before the election, he was still saying, yeah, well, there's still good people on both
sides.
Very fine people.
I mean, it's just the fact that he said that.
Crazy.
I know it.
Dude, come on.
ruined it. Even his own party's like, yeah extra states left bro, you're done.
Yeah they're done with the Obamas I think. I think so too. Which is good.
So I want to talk about something. What about Michelle? She's being called out for her holiday season comment.
What did she say? I saw something. It's gonna say Merry Christmas like most of the planets.
In fact I posted something on her Instagram I don't know if you saw it.
It said Merry Christmas United States and they have the red United States of all the
republicans and happy holidays and they have the blue highlighted.
Yeah I'm still good though. I wonder if some people don't know that that if it
irks people when you say happy holidays instead of Merry Christmas.
I don't know. It's interesting because in Europe they say Happy Christmas.
So I've learned through my job and you probably have too being in the corporate world.
You know it's I say Merry Christmas and I've been informed that I should be saying happy holidays.
You were told that? Yeah. Like in my form? Email? It wasn't a direct email towards me.
It was a general email. These are preferred ways to respond.
But why do you feel like it was directed at you?
No it wasn't directed at me. Oh okay. I thought you were being singled out because.
No no no. I got the same things when I was a corporate. I got those same type of emails.
I'm still liberal. Hold on and you're saying that they were saying hey guys.
Instead of saying Merry Christmas. No no no no. I disagree. We can say whatever the fuck we want man.
I do and I did and I still do. Don't tell me I can't say Merry Christmas.
My little letterhead on the bottom has my name and then I like Thanksgiving I'll have a little turkey.
In Christmas I'll have a little Christmas tree. In you know February I have a little heart.
A little cupid and Halloween I have a little pumpkin. You know I try to make it fun.
You know just let people know hey I'm human. I didn't understand when I was a kid. Xmas.
I still don't understand. They're taking Christ out of Christmas.
Is that the real thing? I thought it was just a way to shorten it. Is it? Is it? I don't know.
I'm not on board with that and then when Shelley explained to me or I don't know who it was explained to me.
My mom maybe? I was like Merry Xmas. Merry Xmas. You know what I mean? Just doing what a little kid does.
And then somebody said to me uh uh. You don't say Xmas. You say Christmas. Just like Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays.
Alright so people use the abbreviation Xmas for Christmas because the X represents the Greek letter chi which is the first letter of the Greek word Christos.
Yeah but I kind of call bullshit. Well that's the official AI overview. AI.
I mean what do you guys think? Am I being am I am I uninformed on this one? Well I know there's well I don't know I've never heard that but I know there is a group of folks or that say that you aren't removing Christ from Christmas.
That's what I get with it. Whether it's the case or not. But I didn't know about this Greek thing.
So the origin the abbreviation originated in the 1500s as a way to to represent Christ across languages the X was meant to be read as the Greek letter chi not the English pronunciation of X.
Alright if we're supposed to take that for what it is then I retract. So it's Chimus? It's Chimus.
But look I always thought it was an abbreviated form of Christmas. That's all I was. I was like I don't have enough room to put all that in there.
And when you when you mentioned that you take the Christ out of Christmas yeah that kind of rings a bell to me.
I don't know who planted that in my head when I was little or you know you know sub-adult but yeah that was probably Father Joseph.
Probably. Well you still say Christmas. Christ. Christ. Miss. Christmas. Yeah you still say it. Christ-class. As you used to write it.
True true. I don't know I don't know if that's a conspiracy or not but I don't know.
Well I've always thought I actually I think it was because of you.
Um. Yeah what? That's the first time I've ever brought it up to anyone. No no no you you've brought it up to me in the past. Did I? Yep.
I remember it's okay it's okay because I had said something about in some sort of past email or text message ex-message.
Don't you ever do that again Sean. You didn't say it like that. Oh I didn't. You were just like I hate you. Oh it's even better.
No but you you brought it up and I was like well maybe that does mean that you know they don't have Google like they have now.
So I didn't fact check you realize you're full of shit. I was just like I said well maybe he's right.
You know and you should have assumed I was full of shit come on. No no no but because they're that does have some merit to it. It does. Because I mean it's it does. Christ is missing. It doesn't look good ex-message.
But it's been around since the 1500s. Yeah I don't know. Were they doing that back then? That seems I don't know. Were they PC back then? They put that on tablets.
Well it says the abbreviation originated in the mid 1500s. The Rosetta Stone. Is that on there? It's not on there. It's not on there. I can promise.
All right hey I want to bring up something else. It's not some Samarian text. I know this is kind of a maybe not a left turn but hey I want to talk about the horrific story on the subway. New York City.
Oh my god. I know there's a downer. There's a downer but there's a good story about it. It's a good spin on it. How? How could that be good?
Okay so this you know there's all sorts of carnage that's happening on the damn New York City subway right? Right. And and the governor's like oh it's safe and and blah blah blah blah blah blah.
I read a story today that the Guardian Angels, I don't even know who they are. Is that a gang? Who are the Guardian Angels? So they are a gang. They are liberated through a community that used to be in gangs.
And they're just they're a community non-profit organization. They just a group of guys that get together and hey we're going to patrol our own neighborhoods and we're going to make sure that the people so that people like Daniel Penny don't get put in an uncompromising position where they have to choke someone out and accidentally kill them.
Oh you know they're going to be in the same position by the way. Not as a group. Do they call those uh is it renegades or vigilantes? Vigilantes. Is that kind of they call them vigilantes? Yeah but they're sanctioned. A point is well. By who? The city.
Can you check that out Mr. Producer? Are the Guardian Angels that they have they are now going to patrol the subways of New York City because after that woman was burned to death by the homeless dude. They need it bad. They need it so bad.
And I'm like okay well I wanted to know who are these Guardian Angels? Are they sanctioned by the by the New York Police Department? Okay sanctioned was probably a little bit too too strong but they're recognized. I'm happy I'm happy that I heard that.
Okay it says all right let's see what we got here. It says Guardian Angels resume New York City patrols after subway burning death. Never seen it this bad. Okay.
So what who are they? They're a volunteer crime prevention group. Okay but are they are they immune to the Daniel Penny? No this is back in the late 70s. So they're not they're okay look they they are controlling they're controlling the negative influence that is happening on the subways by mass. Preventative. Basically it's like a group of them.
Basically it's men being in the right place at the right time to stop people from doing stupid shit. And they're usually they're in a group like there's four or five guys. And they have jackets I think. Yeah they wear red jackets. Yeah. They're just showing a picture of it right now. Yeah. They look kind of cool. And braids. Yeah. I would do it. And carrying an AK. I don't think they're carrying an AK. Oh they're not? I think it's a bazooka. Oh it's a bazooka. I'd do that. Yeah. I think they only carry Tutsi roll pops. But I love that because and I guarantee the citizens
of New York City love it too. Because it's got to be tired of it. Who else is going to get out there? The Hells Angels? I mean the the Harley-Davidson folks? I mean somebody's got to get out there and do it. Somebody's got to protect the people man. Crazy. I mean look if it were me I would have military soldiers out there. I have the National Guard. Well Hoco put the is it the National Guard into the subways but they were looking at purses. They did? Yeah she did. They were doing what? All they were doing were checking purses. They weren't on the subway itself so it was in the entrance. How would that help?
Why are they checking purses? Hold on. Just the fact that they're present there is a step in the right direction. It is but checking purses? Yeah there was video. She did it about six nine months ago. There are video and there are like the TSA. They're stopping people looking at their purses. Yeah because women pulling out guns out of their purses on the subway seems to be a prevalent crime. Well you're not allowed to have guns in New York anyways. Oh that's right. There are none right? But I'll tell you the. That's right. None. Right. That's great.
That law worked. Yeah. You know the uh god damn it lost my train of thought here. I was talking about how they were checking purses. So the a lot of these people out there it's the immigrants that are causing this. Yeah. Actually that's not true because the Daniel Penny thing wasn't from an immigrant. No. You know it's kind of difficult man. Mental illness. But you've got but you've got these people that are raping raping women in front of a bunch of people. That did nothing. Did nothing except video to record it. That's crazy.
I mean it is crazy. It just. Well they're also talking about potentially going after the folks who sat there while the guy lit that lady on fire. They weren't alone? No. Oh god please. Okay so look how crazy this is. Unbelievable. So they're going to go after the people that didn't do anything and then but when they do do something then you're going to go after them and still. Right. I mean come on. Come on. You nailed it right there. It's ridiculous. I'm so glad he was acquitted by the way. I don't know if we talked about it on the podcast. Amen.
I think that would have set a huge precedent where no one was going to help anyone. They already don't. They already don't but you have folks every now and then step up that would have killed that. Right. Oh it would have been the ender of anybody who even thought about it. Yeah.
This guy who got caught from Guatemala.
He's an illegal alien. Trump sent him back when he was. He came over during Trump. Trump administration found him sent him back. Oh great. And he crept back over during the Biden administration. He's been here for a few years. So my question. So he got caught doing this.
The charge. The charge. No. New York doesn't have death penalty. The harshest they could do is life in prison without parole. Put him life in prison. They'll whack him in prison. So hold on. I think you. So the question is do you send him back with any confidence that he's going to be in prison down there.
And he's just like a turn around and come back or do you pay for him the rest of his life via taxes to be in prison. So what is the name of that movie. Glorious Bastards. So in Gloria in glorious bastards. So remember when Brad Pitt took his knife and put a swastika on the forehead.
And he said we can't have you walk around thinking you're just a regular old Nebraska resident. So he carved a swastika. He did. They need to be branded. They need to wear the Nathaniel Nathaniel Hawthorne scarlet letter. I mean they need to be branded.
I don't know what to say. I so if I were like I don't know president who makes this decision. Let's say I was president. That's probably Holman right. His his right. My station. I would I would contact Guatemala and I would say I'm going to send this person to you.
And you're going to deal with him. Extremely harshly. Hopefully death penalty. Right. Hopefully death penalty. And if you don't. Blah blah blah blah blah blah. That's right. Baby. Yeah. That's what I mean. Do you. That's what I would do. You roll that dice. There's no fucking way I'm spending money. Right. That was the question.
I'm going to send him food and letting him watch TV. I'm so three squares and a looking forward to home and coming in and opening up a can of whoop ass. Oh yeah. You know and just he and he's talking serious. Well this trend or agua or whatever.
You say it. They need to go. Oh they are ready. The gang. Oh they're the one in Aria. The Venezuelan model. The Venezuelan role. They're in Texas to the Venezuelan gang. Oh yeah. They're like in yeah. They're like in 13 states. Yeah. They're all over the place. They're all the big cities. Here's here's what I think is encouraging.
I think for as many people are coming out and say we're going to you know we're going to restrict or block you know the Trump administration as much as we can and we're not going to do this and we're not going to let them do this. There are so many more agents on the ground everywhere that feel helpless.
And are frustrated that they can't do their jobs. Right. And they're going to be empowered and they're going to be on board. Well you'll see this as well where the governor or mayor says that they talk. But the sheriff and the police are like yeah I'm not.
That's exactly that's exactly what I'm talking about. You mean they're not going to provide support. No they'll they'll they'll disobey their governor like when they when they start. There's been some things where they're like we're not going to allow people to own guns in our city or something like that or ice to apprehend.
Yeah. We're a sanctuary city. Yeah the sheriff will come out and go. Yeah our crime is too bad. We'll be helping them. Yep. We'll be. Yeah. So basically disobeying the mayor and the governor and good. Yeah.
Because the sheriff is an elected individual. Yep. Yep. 100 percent. Take it on. I'm working for the people. Well you'll you'll you'll even see sheriffs in California say that kind of stuff. I mean they they. That's where I've seen a lot. Yeah they lay it down. I love it. It's good stuff.
It's what needs to happen. I know. I agree. Yeah they need to get rid of the these bad bad actors. It'll be interesting. There's a lot of bad stuff and it's all over the place. It's it's the the the Palestinian flags that are popping up all over the place.
And it's not. Look I don't care if you raise a Palestinian flag. I don't. It's just it's the it's the crime. It's why are you doing it. It's the whole going through antagonizing people that aren't part of that culture.
It's just like dude do your thing. I mean because that's what we are. We're a big melting pot. OK. You want to be you want to have your religion. You want to have your stuff. Do it. Just don't infringe on other people's rights. Right. You know that's that's respect each other. Right. You know that's the bottom line but they can't assimilate.
That's that's that's the most difficult thing. If you can't assimilate then don't fucking join us. Get the fuck out of here. That's why I think we have some assimilation problems here in Frisco. We do. To be honest.
I would agree with that. Talking about. Well because there's no incentive to. Why do you need to assimilate if if every single part of your culture is available. Yeah. It's been rebuilt here. Yeah. 100 percent. Yeah. I agree with that. I know. All right. Another left. Well I'm trying to think of a way to spin that. But yeah.
Let's do another left. I want I don't want to run out of time for we cover the NFL draft order. Well let's let's roll into H1B visas. Yeah. That's good. That's top of mind right now. Just because Elon has said some things.
I was a little disgruntled that a lot of folks have some issue with. I think H1B needs to be completely revamped. I don't think I'm 100 percent against it but I think it needs to be very narrow. Yes. And right now it's very broad and people are abusing it.
Companies are abusing it. So I will I will tell you this. All right. So a little little context for anybody that's not paying attention to this issue. So I think there is a lot of frustrated Americans that the H1B visa program is being abused. Correct. And it's giving it's giving American jobs so to speak. Jobs that should go to American graduates. Correct. Right. To foreign born people that are being you know at a discount. Yeah. Well and being pumped into this country by by the way.
That is being pumped into this country by by their companies that are just hand over fist getting these H1B visas right. Right. Boom boom boom boom boom. OK. So then with all this context of you know Elon Musk and Vivek and doing the doge. I I was thinking wow maybe maybe those guys are going to like address the fact that we're taking away American jobs.
And Musk immediately came out and said he endorsed H1B big time and said yeah I built my companies on the backs of bright you know engineers that you would not find in America. And then the fact doubled down. Yeah but that's different. Well that's not the abuse that Jeff was mentioned right.
Well it isn't. But but what so that came out and said well those that's our only option because American American teenagers don't have the work ethic. Correct. And they're more concerned about being the prom queen and the prom king than they are about you know.
And he makes a good point. I mean I think that that that's valid. That's culture. Right. So then I was like oh shit. I was hoping that they would take put this under a microscope and see what's not where the abuse is right to your point Sean where the abuse is of this program.
And then Trump came out and said no it's a great program. But today Musk said it's a broken it's a broken system. We need to take a deeper look at it because there is there is abuse. That's the problem with Musk right now is he he opens his mouth a little bit too fast.
And he look Trump is his boss essentially. Oh yeah. Yeah. So I mean he should be respected that he right now he's a headache for Trump by saying that out loud right now. He should have they should have had a powwow before saying stupid things like that because we're all on the same page.
Well I mean I think they were on the same page. But the fact that he said he admitted that there's something to look at. I mean that's all I wanted them to say. Right. Is that the H1B program is got to be. I wonder if there's a lot of reform.
I wonder how that will impact the general area here in Frisco. Some of them will go back go home. That's what I mean because I think there's a lot of some of these H1B programs.
I mean they're able to open up small businesses. You know they get these fantastic loans. Oh yeah. They have houses. Oh yeah. I mean why don't the United States citizens have that opportunity. Yeah I heard on the radio that the good way they put it is you know it should be for like the top one tenth of a percent.
Yes. Engineers stem the brightest of the bright. That's what it's like impossible to staff. Correct. Yeah. And what it's turned into is now you're bringing in marketing teams you're bringing in accountants finance people every possible I.T. job you can think of.
And you have 50,000 new graduates every year with accounting degrees who are looking for jobs. Yep. And don't can't find one. They can't find one because H1B's are the way. Total bullshit. For an accountant. There shouldn't be an H1B accountant. You know what. And I will tell you from personal experience we did have we had a guy from Ecuador. Super bright. Great project manager. He was one of one of the best employees I've ever had. I'm not saying they're not smart. No no no. But get this though. Did he make great coffee. No I'll admit I'll admit. Where did he get that. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know.
Where the flaw was in this. So when you fill out the form to the government that says why do you have to have him. What does he offer that you can't get from an American graduate. It does say that. And you have to put in the justification right. And so we like sat down and we're figuring.
Because otherwise his visa was going to not be extended and he was going to have to go back to Ecuador. And we didn't want that. I didn't want that. OK. And so I was brainstorming and we were like what are we going to do. And I you know it finally came down to saying how he was bilingual. Right.
He was totally fluent in Spanish and we had a segment of the business that was Spanish speaking and it wasn't untrue but it wasn't. It's kind of weak. It was weak. But we did it anyway. And I'm sure you could have found a bilingual graduate. Yes.
And sure enough it got approved and on we go. And then that made me realize that's what's happening. Every single manager like me I was guilty in that situation. Right. Of course it wasn't.
No it was an IT job but it was a little different. But anyway but that's what they're doing. They're saying they're saying no one else can do this job. This is this for a DEI kind of concept. No no no no. This is this is a skill set that you cannot find domestically.
And that's why I have to this guy has to do the job for me. And that's why his H1B visa needs to be the whole thing is broken. It's broken. It's broken. There's no you know I mean there's no.
Well it's a perfect thing for the Department of Government. Excess. Excess or is that what it is? Excess? No government efficiency. Yeah. I like mine better. It is better. Alright let's send Musk an email.
Anyway so yeah I know we hammered on that but anyway it does need to be fixed. Well we need to jump on to the.
Wild war of sports. I thought it was wild war of sports. What it was doing with the boozy baking company thing but.
No it's breaking news. Yeah it's breaking news. Hi this is Mike. This is Walter. Dan Rather like Dan Rather.
Hi I'm in the middle of an aircraft carrier or a helicopter and I'm flying. Was that Dan Rather that lied? No that was Tom Brokaw. That's Peter Jennings.
That's Peter Jennings wasn't it? Okay do we have time to talk about. In the Philadelphia let's do this real quick. Here's why I want to talk about this. This is crazy.
So the New York Giants alright they had two wins and Luck. What's his name? Luck?
Luck. He throws for 330 yards and five touchdowns and the Giants beat the Indianapolis Colts and knocked the Colts out of playoff contention.
Right and everybody's like wow what an upset. That's such a cool thing and all the fans are like what the fuck.
You just blew our chance at the number one pick in the draft. In my opinion these players are paid to win. Yes. Not to take games for the next year.
And it's so jacked up because in the press conference they were like you know they're all excited. All the players are excited. They want to win.
They want to win and then one of the reporters was like how do you feel about basically how do you feel about blowing the number one pick by winning?
And the guy was like no comment because he was like fuck you. It's like that's not what this sport's about. Yeah they get paid to play.
And you know what if their stats are going to dictate what they get paid next year you don't want to you want as much as you can every single game.
Yeah. Yeah. It's just crazy to me because the funny thing about this I'm a Titans fan. They suck this year. Three wins.
And by New York winning Jacksonville winning now Tennessee has plopped into the second spot. There it is right there.
How is that? How come there's so many have they played each other. It's based on strength of schedule.
That is OK. So there is a so it's like so it's like the college playoffs. Yes there is a metric. It's strength of schedule.
And so our our schedule was easy or harder harder. Who cares. I think easier because if your schedule is easier that means you suck worse.
Right. If you think about it right. So we had an easier schedule than the Browns and the Giants. And so we're now at number two.
I just think it's funny as hell because here I am watching the game. I wanted to lose which never happened as my whole fandom.
Right. I wanted I wanted to play hard the team to play hard but lose. And now all these other things happened.
And so now the Titans have a chance of picking up one of the top two quarterbacks in the draft where the where the Bengals the Cowboys let's see Cowboys at 13.
Now you're 16 16. So they're eight and eight. Go back to the Cowboys. What were those eight seven nine seven nine.
Yeah I just wanted your take on it was just a different experience for me watching these games this last weekend.
I was my only concern was the draft order not the playoffs the draft order because I had a shitty team.
I think the Titans won you'd be disappointed. I would have been disappointed. That's wrong.
I think I know your team to win. Well I want them to play hard but I didn't want them to win.
Okay well we get that's crazy right. I understand the motivation but I still think you want your team to win.
Three wins. What's the point. Well then why just why play. Okay so only thing we care about right now is why play.
The analogy I agree with the analogy is running out the clock concept. You're basically running out the clock.
Yeah yeah to end it and to get status quo. I don't want to fucking lose. I want to just go I forfeit.
I'll lose the last three games. Well but none of the players want to do that and I love that.
I love that because I want to watch a competitive game and it was a competitive game and they were well not the Cowboys.
They were the Eagles. That was terrible. What's spanking. And then that fight. I didn't see the game.
Dude the fight where the safety of the Eagles threw the guy into the tunnel and it got ugly. I didn't see that.
And slammed him down on the pavement in the tunnel. Play that for us Mr. Producer if you can find it.
Producers know by the way how are the Cowboys 7 and 9. My god. They suck. They suck. They're 2 and 6 at home.
Home. Yeah and didn't they start out strong. I mean like weren't they like 5 and 2 or 6 and 2. No.
Well we have our front line that's all banged up and you know the only receiver we have.
The only star we have is like CD Lamb and we spent some money getting our running back Ezekiel Elliott who's a big shlap knob.
Why were you not watching the game Sean? I was doing domestic duty. No you went to Costco.
You said hey I'm going to Costco at 1 o'clock and I looked at the schedule like the Cowboys are playing. I didn't go at 1.
I'm just saying. Here I am watching the Titans in their 3 and fucking 13. Well you know what you could have said that.
What's wrong with you guys? Honestly I thought the Cowboys were playing at night. Okay.
That's honestly that's what I thought it was. You didn't miss anything. Alright show us the video. Here we go. This is ugly guys.
This is what started it. What an official field judge. He got tied up in a 2. Watch this guy.
He just turns into a scrum there. Slams him down on the pavement in the tunnel.
It was not pretty. I don't know if that was a slam. I just think he was. Well if you see from a different angle he.
Did he bounce? He bounced. He bounced.
Look at this. I did see this. I didn't know what. I tuned back in for this. Oh that was a prayer group.
That is not a prayer group. Did they pull out the base? The pepper spray?
Right. That was a college football team. Right. Right. Oh crazy.
Tell you what that bangle game was kind of crazy. It was crazy. He missed the field goal. I was just like.
Didn't it hit the post? Yeah. Oh I was laughing my ass off. Not to your detriment.
But you ended up winning anyway. Dude they stormed down and scored a touchdown and boom it was over.
Yes. We watched it. We were into that game. Yeah that was a good game. Joe Burrow is. He's on a game. He's on a roll.
He's one of the best seasons of any quarterback. Yes he is.
We've got a toast to Burrow and the Bengals. Hey guys I want a toast. We can toast to that.
I want to toast to the Dudes Like Us podcast. We have a 2024 into the 2025.
We had a great year. This is the last podcast of 2024. We've got the Chuckster sitting at the production wheel.
What a perfect way to end the year with Chuckster at the wheel.
You know we're going to. It's a new edition and we're going to be sliding Austin in and out until Chuck gets moved into here.
While Austin's away in college and we'll just kind of firm this up.
And we're toasting with something that's special. It is special.
It's special because of what the name brand. It's special.
The biggest reason I think it's special is because it's so fucking hot and it doesn't taste anything like what it is.
It's 131.1 proof and it tastes like it's 115. 110.
What do we got there? Mr. Producer what is it?
This is Jack Daniels single barrel proof rye whiskey.
It's single barrel, barrel proof rye.
Right. And it's a store pick.
It's a store pick for the total wine. Thanks Stan. Thanks Stan. Thanks Kevin.
You guys help us out whenever there's something in you kind of give us a little heads up.
We can't save it for you but you guys can get here quick while I key straight and hide it for you.
Yeah. Even my wife drank this and she had me pour some in the cup for her.
Yeah. She wanted more. She's like that tastes really good and it's not hot.
Here's the nose. Spearmint. Caramel. Cedar. Cedar.
What did I tell you when I first smelled it? You said. There's mint. Cinnamon.
I heard pine. Mint. And petroleum.
Just oil. Smells like Earl.
Now you said mint. Yes I said. And.
Tea. My green tea. Yep.
Okay the last thing on here is circus peanut. Really?
The candy. It's not enough to say peanut.
Well that's the candy peanut. Oh candy peanut. I got you.
I've never heard it called circus peanut before.
Well the tasting notes of rice, spice, fruits, toasted,
oak, caramel, vanilla, dark chocolate. Some say it's thick, creamy, mouthful.
Others say it's velvety on the tongue. Here are some more tasting notes from reviews.
The raisin and burnt oak.
Raisin. I can pick up raisin. These add depth to the nose.
The butterscotch and caramel. These weave into the palate.
Leather and this injury. Leather and cigar box.
I actually pick up banana. That's in the finish as well.
Absolutely. I taste bananas. I smell banana for sure.
And bananas is a classic Jack Daniel's note in case you weren't one.
What does a cigar box taste?
Well you know what a cigar box smells like right? Oh I do.
So the cigar box are traditionally made out of wood and then you've got the cigar.
No it's where the cigar is resting in the box. There's ashes everywhere.
You take your fingers and you scoop them up. Oh but you also said green apple.
And the green apple is listed on this. Dark cherry, candy fruit, eucalyptus, green apple and a marzipan.
Marz-bar. Marz-a-pan. Marz-a-pan.
Marz-a-pan. That's very particular. These notes dance along on your tongue.
Mint chocolate chip dipped raspberry.
I pick a lot of that up. I do.
What do you think Chuck? What say you there, see?
131. It's good stuff.
He didn't like it.
And for the price.
You didn't like it there? 60 bucks.
Oh I tasted the mint on there. Did you like it or not?
I said it's good stuff. Good stuff.
For a rye? I don't normally like ryes.
Celebrating the incoming of 2025 Dudes Like Us.
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Let us know. We can reach DMS or I think we've got a phone number attached there right?
I have no idea.
Well thank you Mr. Chuck for showing up for our first production.
Good lord.
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