It's such a great day.
It's a great day.
It's podcast day.
You know what?
Today is Tuesday.
What say you, Jeff?
It is.
It was all right day.
It's near the quarter end, so it's quite hectic.
It's garbage day.
It is garbage day.
It's garbage day.
You know what happens on garbage day when I'm lucky?
They take garbage.
Operation Purge.
Oh, you get rid of shit?
Yeah.
You know what garbage day is for me?
It's oh shit, scrambling out in my bare feet, grabbing the cans, throwing as much trash
in there as I can on the way over there.
Nude.
No, not nude.
I'm down there nude.
I'll run out there because you hear the garbage.
I know you hear them.
You hear the distinctive noise that it makes.
When it stops and it picks up, you recognize that noise in your inner ear.
What is that?
Yeah.
Sense.
I know what you're talking about.
Sixth sense.
It's your garbage sense.
Spidey sense.
Yes.
Yeah, and you spring out of bed and you're like, shit, shit.
Well, I've got I like to tip the garbage man.
How do you do that?
Give him money.
Yeah, it's usually being gratuitous.
Hold on.
This is a new concept.
What do you guys mean?
What I used to my friend bag of tangerines.
Hey, you like that?
No, you give him money.
So you literally are standing out in the alley and going, hey, man, what's up here?
Take this.
Yes.
That's cool.
Yes.
I've never thought of doing that.
And you know what?
They they love it.
We've had that we've had in the last.
I've met two different garbage truck guys.
OK, and I probably give them a couple hundred bucks a year.
Nice.
You know, every other week, I give him a 20 bucks, 40 bucks.
And really, it's helpful because sometimes my garbage cans, I may have neglected to bring
them down and they'll go get them.
Yeah.
Bullshit.
Yeah.
Oh, that's super cool.
But tipping does not always work because once you tip your rental car company and they still
screw you over.
Well, that was different.
Yeah, I understand.
But I like to I like to be because it's all about opportunity.
You know, if someone that has the control, like if the folks at the rental place, they
had the option, they're like, all right, well, you know, I've got five cars and I've got
eight people.
You know, this guy tips.
He's getting a car.
Right now.
No, I don't think it works that way.
I think it does.
I don't know.
It can.
And you know what?
It may be just chance.
But the thing about it, you said you tipped them and then like the next week you're bitching
because they didn't have your car.
You're absolutely right.
You know, ask for your tip back.
Look, the those folks do work hard.
And I do.
And it sucks.
And it's got to be stressful because like I just said, you know, you've got it's an
industry.
I don't understand how well they shouldn't.
There should be more proactive is what they should be.
Well, they should.
As you call to take their rental.
I don't have any cars or online.
I don't have any cars instead of saying I have five cars.
I'm going to take 10 reservations.
Right.
How stupid is that?
Because they can gobble up the reservation and make you wait.
And probably with probabilities and statistics, they probably think that most people that
rent cars aren't returned for customers.
So it's about gambling.
Well, the other part of it is I disagree with the return thing.
Well, they would have reward programs and hold gold and all that stuff.
Well, that might be true.
I mean, I think it's got to be a reason.
That's the only reason I'm sorry.
There's got to be a reason.
Yeah.
So I think there's a certain percentage of no shows.
Right.
People are changing their travel plans.
They're not going to fly out that night.
I mean, these are road warriors.
Right.
So they can change on a moment's notice.
The biggest delay I think it's the no show percentage.
And when people do show, everybody shows somebody screwed.
So the biggest delays are like on Mondays and it's because they're closed on Sunday.
That's why you never want to travel on Monday.
Well, not the airport disaster Thursday disaster.
Those are the word warriors.
Right.
Disasters.
Well, live and learn.
So, you know, plus some of it.
I'll fly out Sunday to avoid Monday.
I was going to say some of it may be my fault by late reservations, but it turns out that
doesn't mean jack shit.
Right.
You know, it doesn't mean you know, if you want a car, the basically the best way to
get a car is to be there first.
Right.
That's the best way.
If they open at seven, you better be there at 650.
It's like it's like get the bottle of bourbon at the liquor store.
If you want to be able to get the hard defines, if they have it, you got to be first in line.
Yeah.
And it was frustrating.
But the reason why I tipped, you know, yeah, sure.
That that first of all, it just makes me feel good.
That's what matters.
Yeah.
I thought that makes them feel good.
That's why you do it.
And in fact, I told them, hey, look, it's not much.
It's 40 bucks.
It's probably enough to buy a couple of couple of pizzas for the for the staff because you
guys are sitting there humping it in your those guys are like full time car washers.
Right.
I mean, they not only work the front desk, they got to run in the back.
They do.
I'm not making any money from hurts.
And no, I don't give a shit.
But that's the reality.
So I don't mind.
Forty bucks once.
Now, you're absolutely right.
Your motivation should be because you're trying to make a difference for those people, not
because you think you're going to get something out of it.
Right.
Well, now, if you do, that's great.
Selfishly, selfishly, even though I say that's not the reason selfishly, there's a little
strand of sure.
What is that called?
Selfishness.
Ego comes around, goes around.
I don't know.
Narcissism.
I don't know.
What is it?
I see what you mean.
It's a little thing like, yeah, hopefully they'll they'll see.
They'll pay attention to me.
Yes.
And I'll get that rental.
Well, but you know, back to the tip thing, I have never thought of giving like garbage,
the garbage guys money, but I've wanted to go out there like at Christmas time and give
them a bottle of bourbon or something.
I've thought of doing that before.
Well, but I haven't.
I've never done it.
But I don't know if that would be appropriate.
No, you don't think so?
No, because they talk about leaving bottles of alcohol in the mailbox at Christmas time
for the mail for the postman, the post guy.
Yeah.
The mail, the mail person.
There's a lot of mail man people that won't drink and know it's got these mail people
and they're kind of like, geez, I could really use that twenty five bucks.
It's mail Z. I can't I can't buy diapers with this bottle of bourbon.
By the way, I can't drink.
I've got cancer or I'm a recovering alcoholic.
Way to go, Paul.
Whatever.
Yes.
But I think a lot of people do that.
That's what I'm saying.
I've got cirrhosis.
Who does that?
What's wrong with you guys?
I'm shitting all over my tip idea.
Who the fuck tips with with alcohol?
I think a lot of people do it.
You got some with who?
The bread bourbon.
Yeah, it's a bread bourbon.
Nick's name on the shade.
We don't speak pig Latin here.
So Tuesday is a great day.
Garbage is gone.
The reason why is because I had a tremendous amount of garbage.
I am extremely thankful.
I moved my fucking construction of my house forward has happened.
Yeah, you've made a lot of progress.
A lot of progress this week.
We had to pull the kitchen floor out and we had a few incidences by unhooking the dishwasher
and the refrigerator.
It's like I get back with the dishwasher fucking leaking.
I fixed that pipe and they say, hey, we got like the refrigerator lines.
I have to go back and I have to go buy all that shit.
So everything you moved ended up like breaking something or leaking something.
I need to be thankful.
The washer worked fantastic.
Anyways I'm happy.
Do you have hot water yet?
We have hot water.
I went ahead and engineered a little with shark bites because we got from the sink in the
kitchen the hot water goes first.
One of them goes to the sink and the other one goes to the dishwasher.
And I was like, all right, well, we're getting new cabinets.
So do I want to waste the energy and the money to fix that for two weeks?
And then yeah, I do.
I do.
I really do.
Because you imagine a kitchen without hot water?
No.
Well, you bought a bunch of supplies to not have to wash any dish for the next two weeks.
Can you imagine a wife dealing with a kitchen with no hot water?
Yeah, that's a deal breaker.
It was a no brainer, man.
I was in there and I created this thing and I asked the gentleman there, Jose, to hook
it up and he obliged me.
It was crazy.
It was a crazy day.
I'm trying to think it was a work day too.
No, that was a weekend.
It was Monday.
No.
No?
Because we ran to Home Depot.
Oh, that's right.
It was on Saturday.
And they shafted me on Sunday.
So you get these contractors, right?
So they're out there on Saturday and then like, we'll be back at 8 o'clock in the morning.
I'm like, you'll be back at 9 in the morning?
We'll be back at 8 in the morning.
No, you'll be back at 9 in the morning?
Right.
All right, we'll be back at 9 in the morning, Mr. So there you go.
They didn't show up until Monday.
This is your fault.
No.
From what I heard.
If you would have said 8, it would have worked out.
They would have been there.
From what I heard, their wives were like, it's Palm Sunday and you're not doing anything.
You sit back and you're going to have family time.
So that's what the boss said.
Yeah.
So it was kind of like, when are they coming back?
Because now two thirds of my kitchen is done.
When are they coming back?
They haven't told you when they're coming back?
Well, they were back today.
Oh, good.
Sorry, they were back Monday.
Oh, right.
I'm sorry.
Unbeknownst to me.
So you're going to be doing your countertop.
Well, in theory, the plan is in two weeks from this past weekend, we're going to we're
going to be pulling out the operation cabinets.
That's basically what's going on.
Operation cabinets, two weeks.
So and you're pushing out your whole sink and everything, right?
Yeah.
That whole bar there, you're going to push out like three or four feet.
Yeah.
And you're going to redo the door.
I don't need one yet.
The the wall door with a little side door.
You're going to redo a whole thing.
Yeah.
I mean, I don't know how the design is.
So in the backyard there, we have three doors, essentially.
There's a door in the center.
That's a three oh six eight door.
It's a standard standard door with a bunch of glass.
And then on the side, there's two really small doors, which aren't really doors like side
windows.
They're like side windows that open up like a door.
You know, strange.
It is.
And anyways, they have no real function.
The kids go out in and out from them, you know, and leave the latch undone, which we're
just too fat to fit through them.
Oh, yeah.
That sucks, too.
Thanks for bringing that up.
That's why.
So anyways, we're going to do away with those side windows.
We do it just to prove we can do it.
But it's very painful and we get scratches on our good.
Yeah.
Especially with that nail that's there.
Yeah, it sounds like a good idea.
Yeah.
So anyways, yeah, construction crap Tuesday.
I'm thankful.
And you know what else we started off Jeff went in and went to our down the roster and
rolled the dice and his finger landed on Noah Mills.
Yeah.
And so we've got it's been a while since we had it.
The only thing I don't like about this bourbon is the bottle.
The bourbon itself is great.
It's a wine bottle.
It is a wine bottle.
So no, it's it comes in a wine bottle.
It's a green glass and it's genuine bourbon whiskey handmade in the hills of Kentucky.
Well, it's about hundred fifteen.
It's hundred fourteen point three hundred fourteen point six.
It's a post.
It's pretty it's already comes in hot.
But you know, when you can appreciate bourbon and I'm only saying this, I think we're on
I think we're we're there.
We're not there as a smug.
But we know we're starting to get there.
And when I can taste a bourbon that's this strong, there's a couple of things that are
going on in my mind.
First of all, I do like it.
And that's telling me I am a God bless an alcoholic for as hot as this thing is.
And me to swish in the mouth where my tongue is going numb and my front teeth are numb.
And I'm thinking, it's good.
It's taking off your enamel.
I'm sure any phrase tastes good, too.
It's got great flavor, though, though.
Yeah, it's tasty.
Great.
Is that what you said?
No, great.
Oh, yeah, it does.
It's got great, great flavor.
Grape grape, grape, grape flavor.
That was a weird show.
Grape ape, grape, grape.
What was that from the cartoon?
It's a cartoon.
Was it Hannah Barbera?
I don't know.
Here we go.
No, but hold on.
Great.
But what was that from?
And what's funny about great babies?
I don't think you really ever saw him.
You saw his hand, right?
I don't remember.
Great.
What does that mean?
Great.
Well, I mean, because he was like, you know, he was a person.
He was a purple ape.
And he's right there and he's got a ball cap and oh, yeah, I saw that.
But in the a lot of the scenes, it looks like a Hannah Barbera to me because it's got this
course.
Got the grape ape in the search engine of Google.
And they've got all these marijuana pods.
Is that what those are?
Yes.
So we're looking at a bunch of merri of the pot buds.
You know, the ratio is like one to 50 grape ape.
And the other ones are all pot.
Hold on.
So that's the nickname of of of marijuana.
There must be a variant.
There's a strain of the marijuana.
I guess it's called grape grape grape.
I don't know how many strands strains are there?
I don't know.
There's two space ghost and grape.
I think maybe marijuana marijuana may be very similar to bourbon where you've got different
strains, you've got, you know, I don't know.
I don't know much about marijuana, but I'm assuming if they have so many names, they
must have different types of taste.
There's all kind of strains that do different things from what I understand.
They do different things or they just have different flavor.
They affect different tastes.
Well, I don't know.
Well, there's a head high and there's a body high.
Yeah, they do those two things.
And then you have like the different type of tastes.
You've got really oily stuff and then you got really dry stuff.
You know, it's and I don't know where that is on the spectrum as far as what does that
mean?
Body high versus head high?
Well, I'm paraphrasing.
I'm reading here.
So.
OK.
Well, the body high is kind of like it makes folks tired.
It makes them kind of like couch potatoes.
That's relaxed, like majorly mellow and like, hey, man, like, you know, that's where I'm
at to do my homework.
And then I got high.
I don't know.
And then I got high.
I think there's a flute in it, though.
No, there are flutist.
Yeah.
So it's a Jethro toll.
It is Jethro toll.
You nailed it.
So that is the that that type of pot is supposed to be the couch potato.
And you just I meant to do that.
That's the body high.
But the head high, I think, is like a stimulant and it kind of wires individuals like they
want to get up and you're excited, clean the garage and just excited to do stuff.
I mean, there's just, you know, I mean, they get distracted probably real easy, but they're
anxious to go.
So it's like they go to point A to point B. Where am I at point C and then point.
But they get there really fast each.
Oh, OK.
So it's the opposite of ADD medicine.
Oh, no, actually, from what I understand, it's it helps out folks that have ADD.
Oh, and a balance things out.
Interesting.
I don't know.
I'm not into it personally.
OK, interesting.
That was a nice quick, quick lesson going from grape ape to marijuana.
Well, that was unexpected because it was.
Yeah.
Well, now we have the power of Google search.
So I want to tell you the grape ape on some of the shows that I watched only showed his
hand.
So I'm kind of wondering what the heck that was.
Maybe you had a TV that didn't quite work right.
I don't know.
The one I saw was always a purple light.
Bottom of it.
He's got a black jacket and a green ball cap on.
So the great, the great, great ape at the circus.
Look at him.
Look how.
Can you click on that center one, Mr. Producer?
Oh, my gosh.
He's kind of pirouetting.
That's how Paul looks Saturday.
Looks like he's tucking that that would look like.
That's what I would look like if I was a great.
It does look like he's tucking.
What did you say?
A Barbera's great grape ape at the circus.
A Rand McNally episode.
Yeah, he's tucking.
Yeah, he's totally tucking.
Come on.
That's just.
Then they get the dog in the background playing the do do do do do do do do do do do do do
jack in the box.
So Noah's Mill, it's it's got a fantastic taste.
It does.
I enjoy it.
I'm enjoying it.
The strong and we need to move on.
So thank you for bringing the beer, Paul.
You're welcome.
It's super ice cold.
Oh, that's what I love about it.
I know.
Me too.
I can't drink it unless it's crazy ice cold.
Yeah.
Well, it's the lagers that I like cold.
I have a tendency to enjoy some of the IPA's and the darker beers and the craft beers.
Not super cold, but this beer has to be cold.
Yeah, because it has no taste.
That's not true.
That's the only thing it's going to give back to me.
Just the coldness.
Well, they might as well just bring really cold water.
That doesn't get you fucked up, though.
Yeah, there is taste.
I enjoy this beer.
Miller Highlight Light.
Yeah, it tastes like no urine.
I'm already disagreeing.
It tastes like a fine beer.
He did say urine.
What?
I don't know why somebody would say that.
I don't know.
That's disturbing.
It is.
I like it as well.
I think the only place we could... I've never found it at the Tom Thumbs, the Kroger, the
grocery stores.
It's only at the Total Wine.
It is.
Yeah.
It seems to be.
Walmart used to sell it, and there would only be two cases of it.
And then it just kind of vanished.
Wow.
Anyway.
All right.
I'll tell you this.
I got to try to start limiting the amount of alcohol, at least the beer.
Take one or the other.
I think I'm doing too much of it.
My blood pressure is getting... My fingers are starting to get swollen and stuff.
It kind of reminds me of that vacation we went on to Lake Tahoe.
We did have sausage fingers.
Sausage fingers.
Oh yeah.
It was bad.
Just by hiking as long as you did, all the blood in your body ran... Some blood ran
into your fingers.
Well, yeah.
We were in Lake Tahoe a couple summers ago.
It'll be two years this summer, actually.
And we went out to... There's Lake Tahoe, and then there's a... I think it's called
Holland Leaf Lake or Twin Lake.
I don't know.
There's a lake, and you drive way back in there, and it's really nice homes back in
there.
And there's a fire house at the base of the mountain at the edge of the lake.
Some really beautiful waterfalls up there and whatnot.
But there's a hike.
So talk about Lake Tahoe, first of all.
Lake Tahoe is high in the mountains.
Yeah.
So when you think about Lake Tahoe, you're like, oh, well, that's at the god-bustin'
top.
That's really high up there.
No, it's not.
The mountain continues.
Yeah, well above it.
So you're... Completely oblivious, because I thought that was the cap.
Yeah.
I think you're about 6,000 feet, between 6,000 to 7,000 feet, maybe a little bit higher at
Lake Tahoe.
So that's where we started.
It was about 7,000 feet, I think.
And we were at the base of this mountain, and the trail... There's two lakes at the
top of the mountain called Angora Lakes.
Angora?
Angora Lakes.
And actually, there they are right there.
And we were on that beach right there.
And... Yeah, see the center one with the boats, yellow boats?
We walked down that little area right there.
Yeah.
And... That's kind of cool.
There's two ways to get to it.
Pretty.
You can take your car and drive up it, like a normal human being, or...
You guys apparently didn't write that down, or didn't know?
Well, I knew that, but we wanted to hike it, because I tried it with my family five or
six years ago.
I just belonged to the trip.
Had I had any kind of decision processing in this, I probably would have said, yeah,
let's just go an extra tier up, and then start there.
Yeah.
It was like, no.
See, Jeff had done it before.
Yep.
And the kids were younger, and so I don't blame him for that.
But we went a halfway up, and he was like, I'm not freaking doing that.
I'm going back down with the kids, because I'm not getting further with these little
butt heads acting like this, and I can handle that.
And it's kind of a treacherous climb in spots, because the path is... It's not a path.
It's basically you're climbing up rocks, and stairs almost.
Yeah.
A lot of people pass through it.
It kind of looks like... It's not very wide.
No.
Okay.
So you start at the base, and you walk through the woods, and you finally just start going
up, and... The air is so thin.
Oh, yes.
I could not breathe.
I mean, it was a joke.
It got to be seriously a joke, because I'm making fun of everything, and my whole mind
is fighting it, but it's like, no.
The air is so thin, I'm breathing.
The young guys, the boys, the sons, of course, sprinted up this thing, practically.
Right.
They vanished.
And so, Sean and I are pulling up the rear, and we'd walk 20 feet, and just die.
Right.
Just... We sound like a dying camel.
I know I did.
My face was beet red.
I looked like I was about to die, have a heart attack, and stroke out.
My fingers, Sean's were as well, swollen, where the skin starts turning white, because
your skin's getting tight, and everything, and you're bending your fingers, and you're
like, man, I'm going to split my fingers open.
And Sean took a couple videos of us, and it's almost embarrassing to watch and listen to,
because we were just... We were so bad.
Was it like a steady stream of people just walking around you?
No.
Not at all.
Like a thousand people.
It's very remote.
We may have seen one or two other people on this thing.
They're like, look at those two poor guys.
So if we have heard... Don't keep going, honey.
Don't look.
If we would have seen... Yeah, we ran into a couple people, and you're just like... You're
trying to compose it and not sound like a dead animal, or dying animals.
So you're trying to hold in the breathing, so you don't look like a fool.
I don't think I was successful at it.
But it was an experience, and we get to... We didn't finish it the first time, but with
Sean, he kept pushing, and I never really wanted to give up, I don't think.
But... Well, I mean, yeah, once you get to... You
got this far, and then, okay, it's only this much further, but you don't know really how
much... But we didn't really know.
Yeah, you don't know.
You're thinking, okay, just right around the corner is probably the beautiful lake at the
top.
Right.
So you just keep going, keep going, keep going, and then that's how...
All right, so here's... I'm going to see if I can't get to a video here.
Some are up here laughing at us because we're 30 minutes behind them.
Ha ha.
Some are up here laughing at us because we're 30 minutes behind them.
Ha ha.
Some are up... We're four minutes behind them.
We're four minutes behind them.
We're four... We're four... We're at 8,000?
I can't even speak.
Yeah, you're not answering.
We had got... Do you want me to go over there and get them?
70... We're four... We're four... We're at... All right, we've made it to the very
top lake.
All right, I'm going to go over there and get them.
Is that you, Sean?
Yes.
You sound like you've been sucking on helium.
I guess he's an oriole.
President... All right, let me see... But when you get to the top of this thing, it
kind of spits you out.
You finally make it to the top because you can't see the top because it's well-treated.
You're in a forest, essentially, trying to climb up this thing, and you cannot see the
top, so you don't know how far you have left.
Right.
Like I said, the boys are long gone.
They left us about an hour later.
We're still climbing.
We get to the top, what we thought was the top, and it kind of levels out.
We come to a parking lot area.
Right about that time, we're doing this.
We lost some rock over Lake Lake Tahoe.
Tahoe?
And we lost some rock.
I don't know if we're going to make it.
We've got to go all the way up there.
You know, these are the videos that people leave when... Like Blair Witch.
Like they're dead, and then somebody finds their phone at their last moment.
That was so bad.
These were your last moment videos.
We've got to think we're going to die.
Wow.
All right, well, I was fumbling through some of those videos, but look, the whole thing
was it's really a life slap.
Yeah, about... It's not even about being in shape.
It's not being out of shape.
Right.
I mean, you don't have to be like a freaking Olympic sprinter to go enjoy those trails
and stuff.
But you need to be able to walk.
Yeah, you don't want to be... Yeah, you don't want to be...
This isn't a walk.
This was a stairmaster.
It's a hike.
Yeah, it's a hike.
And it's going up.
It's going 30 degrees, 60 degrees of these and just the vertical steps.
It was crazy.
And you get out to a little flat.
The thing about it is that your inner monologue is like, all right, well, I just want to stop
and I want to get where we're going and then go back home at this point because it was
so exhausting.
I just wanted to go to the lake.
Right.
Yeah, you weren't even enjoying it anymore.
No.
I wasn't.
It was a challenge at that point.
It was, and then Jeff's like, let's go back.
And then when I heard that, I was like, no.
No.
I mean, I couldn't stop at that point.
I was like, all right, well, he and I are both making it.
And I felt bad about that decision because I was thinking, what if something happened
to him?
Right, or you.
Or me.
But you know.
We made it though.
But luckily there was a chopper waiting at the top.
No, I don't think so.
There's nothing.
Nothing.
You guys do by the time anybody got out there.
No cell phone signal.
Nothing.
I mean, you're in the middle of nowhere.
Oh, wow.
So we're climbing up there.
President Zika is like, I got to go poo poo.
So this is the way back down.
Is it back down?
That was on the way back down.
So we'll cover that in a second.
So were they even even huffing and puffing?
Were they anything at all?
I think I think they I think him and Steven, Preston and Steven made it in about 20 minutes.
Yeah.
And they're like, that's fine.
Yeah.
And we kind of ran up and Brandon and Austin were not too far behind and they made it up
fine and wow.
Sean and I were just because Brandon's what Austin was what 16 those two years ago.
Fifteen is 1516 in Brandon was 17 18 18 19.
He was it was right before he went to 18.
Yeah, he was right before he went to his freshman year in college.
So of all, I mean, because Preston, Steven take off and then you got the oldest and the
youngest hanging out and getting along and and they're having a good time and they're
climbing up the side and and Austin.
I mean, Preston's a cup doesn't Brandon's a big dude.
Yeah.
I mean, he's huge.
Six foot four five, six five.
He's a football player.
He's a lineman.
Yeah.
This is when he was about to go play football.
So he was six five, probably 300 pounds.
And yeah, he was healthy.
I mean, strong issues at all.
No.
So he just Paul Bunyan all the way down.
Yeah, he did.
He did.
Yeah, he sure did.
Proud of that.
And he and he tried.
There were some trees that when you look at them, they look rotten, rotten, precarious,
like they would just fall over and like old dry rod stuff.
Yeah.
And so he he picks his leg up and wham and kicks it.
Well, that thing didn't budge.
That thing was like a pillar.
I mean, it didn't budge and it gave back and it pushed him on his ass.
Now, I don't know if any of you guys have been out in the in the in the forest where
you have really old trees and then you have really.
So those those old trees have these roots that come up and the roots are so old that
the roots are starting to sprout straight up and create these stalagmites.
Right.
Sort of speak like so bikes.
They're like spikes that come up out of the ground and they're they're forging their way.
So eventually they could be part of a tree.
They're pointy and dangerous.
They are.
And he kicked that tree and landed like right next to a collection of those slag mites,
as what I'll call them.
If he would have been a couple more feet to the to the right, I think he would have hit
himself.
Yeah, I think it was that far.
I think it was much closer than we think.
Do you think it could have killed him?
Well, I think if I went to the back of a skull.
Yeah, maybe.
But that's scary, man.
You should have seen them.
They were jagged.
They were they weren't like I mean, he needs a heavy dude.
So all that weight going against them, they're going to get they're going to impale shards.
They were like shards coming up.
No kidding.
Yeah.
So that could have been a disaster because then you'd carry him down the mountain and
you couldn't even carry yourself.
We have many life lessons on this.
This is the story.
Yes.
And we get to the top and be in shape.
There's one and don't kick trees.
Right.
They kick back.
So when we get to the top, it was kind of like a false finish line because you get to
the top and then you start going down kind of flat and you're like parking lot.
The lake probably right there.
Yeah, we made it.
We made it.
And then you guys hugging and like crying, maybe crying a little bit.
I had.
Yeah, I had probably.
I love you.
I love you too.
We were thinking of it, but we were 10 feet apart and out of breath.
And the only thing we could think of was this like I high five them several times in my
mind.
There you go.
I couldn't lift the arms that I had a moment like sort of.
Yeah.
So you so you kind of walk down and then you got a parking lot and you're walking across
this parking lot.
You're like, OK, where do we go?
And then you see kind of going back up.
So you have to go back up.
There's another trail that you go back up.
Were you panicking at that point?
Oh, no.
I was like, damn it.
No.
What do you want?
Like my gosh, he keeps going.
Yeah, we can't call because there's no cell service to go.
Hey, where are you guys?
Right.
So we're like, yes, that's the other thing.
You're kind of committed to keep going because your children have left you.
Correct.
And they're gone.
Wow.
Yeah, they're nowhere inside.
Did you guys not?
So you go with like Disney World as a family and you say, OK, we stick together.
Yeah, but that was in a controlled environment.
You didn't do that.
You didn't.
This is there are.
So you guys didn't go over the rules before this.
This is like poor, poor parenting.
Yeah, no, the boys, they were on their mission and that's all right.
They're older.
Yeah, they were 17, 16 or whatever old they were at the time.
And then Brandon was like, so see the producer pulled up.
Well, we're starting to get there.
So we cross this parking lot and we get to a lake, another little body of water.
And it's it's just a smaller body.
It's like a fishy lake.
And there's people out there fishing and we're thinking, oh, well, this is the lake.
Well, you know, we get to the end and there's another you go up a little bit more and then
there's another little parking lot.
Yeah.
And then there is what I call the the cab the cabins.
Yeah, they have a bunch of cabins up there that you can rent right right around the the
lake.
And their toilet system, their sanitary system was not working correctly.
No.
So when you walk by it, it was pungent.
It was aromatic.
That's bonus.
I mean, you guys are feeling good.
You're getting good and you're taking deep breaths.
Yeah, deep breaths of fresh, thin air.
I mean, that's just bonus.
Yeah, it got real thick and it was nasty.
So anyway, you walk past that.
I'm playing Jeff.
When I first smelled it, I was like, Jeff, you son of a bitch.
He didn't deny it.
He was like, oh, that wasn't me.
He didn't deny it because he couldn't talk.
Yeah, no, Ken.
I just kind of grunted.
So anyway, we walk up there and we walk past and we finally get to the main lake and they
have a beach there and they have cabins.
There's a bunch of people up there.
It's not a big.
Yeah, they wrote.
They drove their cars up there.
They probably about a two acre lake.
It's a huge, but it's beautiful.
Absolutely natural.
All this stuff is natural.
These are all like feeding each other.
So the glacier glacier made lakes.
Correct.
And it's absolutely beautiful.
You know, it's picturesque, which you which you think of just Tahoe, the epitome of that's
it.
Yeah.
I mean, we're not talking about Lake Tahoe.
We're talking about the small lakes above Lake Tahoe that feed the beauty of Lake Tahoe.
So awesome.
So we get there by the time we get there, you'd imagine it was at this point.
It took about two hours for us to get up where we're going to be.
Right.
I would think so.
Yeah.
About two hours.
And so you can imagine the boys were up way ahead of us.
They were there an hour before we got there.
Oh, yeah.
Easily.
Yeah.
So they I think they had I think they got like drinks and food and shit.
Oh, they they were they did all kind of took a nap.
They took a shit, but they read it.
We smelled a new a day later.
You show up.
So there's a it's not a very big lake.
So I don't even know.
In fact, I don't even think the water was as cold as it is down below.
I thought it was a little.
We never got in.
I never got in.
But it's I mean, were you guys like sweating?
Were you sweating?
Hot?
Yeah, you're sweating, but it wasn't like here.
Right.
OK.
So it's it's my face was just beet red and there are some sweat, but not too bad.
OK.
Sorry.
Keep going.
So the boys, they got there in front of us and they they rented a little canoe in the
lake and traveled across because they they they they wanted the kayak canoe to to go
to the other side of the lake because there was a huge cliff that people were jumping
off.
Oh, yeah, of course.
And so they were like, I'm doing that.
Yeah.
And here comes another life lesson.
One of the boys, I don't know if it's Preston Preston, Preston were laying in the water
and his mouth was open and it kind of split the little lining in your upper lip in the
middle that little.
Yeah.
The water got in there and just pulled his lip away from his face.
Yeah.
What?
Yeah.
OK.
All I can I can't.
First of all, he was high up there.
Maybe it's 12 meters.
So the force of the water split his lip.
Yes.
It's not that one up in the mouth.
It's not that one.
That sounds horrible.
Is it painful?
He's so you had it up there earlier.
Yeah.
You did.
It's that one right there.
That's what they were jumping off.
That's exactly what it is, except that only looks like like 20, 30 feet.
That is that.
Yeah, that was it.
It was that was directly across from us.
That doesn't look high at all.
That's well, that's what they were jumping off of.
So anyway, so yes, he bleeding and like, yeah, he said it was a little bit of blood.
I mean, it was a small little slit.
Oh, OK.
I mean, it wasn't like he had to go get stitches.
It didn't cause like a huge.
But look at that.
I mean, it's pretty high up there, man.
That's like that's like 30 feet.
Yeah.
I mean, it's especially once you get up there looks higher when you're looking down.
It's a commitment.
And you see rocks down at the bottom that you have to like jump over that part.
That part is probably what's not the smart thing.
I mean, there are people like there's various lakes in Texas where that's where people do
that.
Like the reservoirs really.
Right.
And they jump off and they die because they break their neck.
They break their neck.
They're laying on rocks.
I did the same thing.
I didn't climb out there, but we went to another place called the whale or the elephant whale
cove whale cove, which is a nude beach.
That's why you went there.
I didn't see any nude.
We did that time.
Were you nude under my bathing suit?
I was.
OK, good.
Thanks for that visual.
So to get up on whale beach, well, cove to get up.
OK, so there's a rock that looks kind of like when you're looking at it, it kind of looks
like a whale's tail.
No, it looks like a whale.
That guy's way up there.
Looks like a whale like Moby's coming out of the water.
His his his mouth, his head is breaching the water.
That's what it looks like.
That's what the rocks look like.
Look up.
Look up whale cove and the rocks themselves the way they are looks like a looks like a
whale.
OK.
So I think we're looking at the picture right there.
No, no, that's not it.
Oh, whale something.
Is that it?
Well, that's not a very good angle of it.
But to take out the Lake Tahoe part or look at whale beach, maybe maybe they call it whale
beach now.
I don't know.
But anyway, it's a big rock like that.
There are large rocks in Lake Tahoe.
OK, so it's I mean, there are there.
They're huge and there are I want to say they're not caverns, but they're they're like a system
that you could swim through in between the cracks of the rocks.
Oh, fine.
Well, I mean, I wouldn't advise it, but but they are there.
So when you climb up first, it was it was so slick and so steep you couldn't get up
there.
It was like you had to learn how to do it right.
It was I couldn't imagine it because it was slippery.
So you got to learn how to put your weight.
It's all about balancing.
And then once because it took me forever to get up there.
And I was determined because the boys were climbing up there jumping off.
But I was like, oh, man, it's just going around you.
You're like standing there trying to figure out how you sounds like you're not bettering
me.
Sounds like you struggled the whole time.
Yeah, it was it any fun at all.
But I did get up there and you know what else I did?
I jumped off the God bless and thing right into the middle of right between in between
a bunch of rocks.
That sounds smart.
Yeah, it was exhilarating.
You had like a three foot hole.
You could jump in.
Did you fall off or you jumped off?
No, I jumped off.
It was a controlled jump.
Oh, good.
I wanted to dive, but the boys absolutely said no.
But you're about 20 feet up.
Sounds that sounds like a horrible idea.
It was rocks everywhere.
Oh, I think I can make it between those two rocks.
I did make it.
Yeah.
I think it was rocks.
They're like that through the through that whole area there.
And they're just just feet under the water.
How many people die doing exactly what you guys are describing at this lake on that rock?
The only reason I did it was because there was a dude up there that did it before me.
And they had and he survived.
So they had a well they had a boat out there and they were they swung swum from the boat
to the rock.
And they said they frequent the place.
And so he climbed up there a couple of times and jumped.
And after I seen him do it a couple of times here and he was like, yeah, you just got to
make sure you get in the hole.
Was he a little person, though, like three feet tall?
He wasn't a pig me.
But you have to I mean, you have to compare your body to this guy's body.
Well, I'm not big.
I'm just fat.
Yes.
Sean went in and went, oh, and he's stuck.
Guys, help me here.
Like a cork.
And the rocks are rough.
I'm just saying, if he's like a little tiny dude and you're not, you have to consider
that.
Yeah.
And there were there were some little they were swimming through some shit that was kind
of like real suspect.
I'm like, I didn't want to swim through that crap.
It was fun, though.
But but you know, the the height, the the altitude up there put such a stress on my body.
I mean, I was farting and they stunk bad.
Oh, yeah.
The the altitude does something to my gastrointestinal system.
Yeah.
And it affects me when I go to Mexico City as well, because that's even higher than Tahoe
and something with the altitude.
I don't know what it is.
I have to watch what I eat, what I drink.
I mean, what's the elevation of Dallas, though?
Because your fart for your fart smell just as bad here.
Imagine there.
Well, that's what I'm wondering.
I don't think elevation has anything to do with the smell of your fart.
I disagree.
OK.
I don't know.
It was bad.
But that's a science experiment we're never going to do.
Well, we will be going to Colorado, hopefully.
Well, I'll go on one.
That's ninety five hundred feet.
So if you thought like Tahoe was bad, your farts are going to like basically kill things
up there.
I've been to sausage fingers were the worst.
Yeah.
I mean, have you ever had your fingers where they were like swollen, swollen to the point
where you could squeeze them, but you feel the resistance because they're so thick?
Yeah.
No, not me.
I've always been like in training for causes.
Is that learning for the Olympics or is that blood that goes into your fingers?
Is that what causes it?
Yeah, it's got to be fluids.
Well, water like remember, 90 percent of your body is made up of water.
So when you go to the altitude, why would it why would it do that?
What's the science behind that?
Well, you know, Jeff, I'm glad you asked.
So what happens is the molecules start to combine with the nitrogen in your bloodstream.
As I go, the it's a different ratio between the nitrogen and oxygen.
Causes an adverse reaction.
I don't think any of that's true.
I don't know.
So so when we're all done at the Angora Lakes, we go hiking or similar physical activities
are quite common.
Most commonly likely because of problems related to blood vessels increased.
So while swollen hands are usually harmless, it's an indication of body attempting to control
the core temperature.
Oh, so you guys were overheating.
No, hold on.
It could be.
I mean, I had a camelback, had water type in altitude swollen hands.
I mean, I'm not saying it wasn't, but it has to do with the lack of oxygen.
Maybe.
Maybe that's what it was.
Right.
I don't know.
It was I think it's extreme out of shape.
No, that was a component as well.
Yeah.
Were your kids having sausage fingers?
No, you know, I might be onto something.
I hate you.
So on the way down.
So we're up there.
Going down was way easier.
Everything, everything in my not necessarily because I have bad feet for you take turns
rolling each other down the hill.
I just somersault all the way down.
Oh my God.
You know why he's got bad feet?
I found out something that's tragic.
Are you going to share a story about your bad feet?
I have a tragic story.
Paul, this is the worst thing I've heard in my almost my entire life.
Wow.
I know there's some bad stuff, but this is bad.
OK.
Setting up a very good story here.
I don't think it's that bad.
What's wrong with your feet?
This guy bought his first replacement of sneakers.
What?
In how many years?
That's eight, eight years.
Hold on, hold on.
I stand corrected.
He did buy some new skins for the trip.
Yeah, I was wearing some nice hiking.
Never mind.
But I have bad feet.
That was the most anticlimactic lead in to anything I've ever heard.
Yeah, but the thing is, he's talking about his feet.
And I'm thinking, hold on now.
The reason why your feet are so jacked up is because it's poor choice of footwear.
No, I got those were nice footwear.
Maybe your hiking shoes were.
But prior to that, you've been beating them up with the secondary.
Well, they weren't secondary back in the day.
They were very nice, very expensive shoes.
Oh, were they capas?
No, but the capas with the two separate bows.
Yes, I loved them.
They were the most comfortable sneakers I ever owned in my life.
I like the capas.
They were amazing.
You know what I'm talking about?
Don't you, Jeff?
No, I don't.
No idea.
You don't know what capas are?
K-A-E-P-A.
What the hell happened to those?
No.
Well, they were.
Were they regional?
I never heard about those.
Well, that's not.
The capas shoes 80s.
There you go.
Not key pass.
No, no, no.
You had it.
Capas 80s.
No, I never heard of it.
Those aren't.
No, it's got to be the 80s.
Yeah, right there.
It says 80 shoes.
All right.
Because there they are.
There were two because you got the bottom one and the top one.
Damn, they were so comfortable.
They were because they tugged, they kept your toes nice and tight and they kept your ankle.
It was kind of like.
I had multiple pairs.
Like I wore one out and then we bought another pair.
I want to say they were the pre-quarter tops that came out.
Maybe.
I never heard of them before.
Really?
Oh, you really missed out.
Yeah.
They had two separate lacing systems, like two little flaps that you could lace.
Yeah.
Well, Capo made a whole bunch of brands, but.
I mean, styles, but the two bows is what did it.
I think so, too.
All right.
So hold on.
So you bought what?
You had sneakers that you wore for eight years.
I have Brooks now.
He's got nice.
Look, I'm saying.
Oh, those are nice?
Very nice.
Is it any better than Nike?
Yes.
Ignorance is bliss.
If you don't know any better.
And if you're walking around, you're like, oh, these shoes are fine.
I don't care.
I'm not affected.
I did have Mizuna's.
I believe that's what they're called, which is another nice pair.
But they were just old.
That's a baseball company.
What's that?
Mizuna?
Mizuna bags and bats.
It's a baseball.
They make shoes.
Well, I know.
I'm just saying that that's how I know them.
Yeah.
Mizuna.
So anyway, so we're up there and we're like, all right, we need to go back down.
Now we need to go back down.
So we had to rouse the kids.
We took a break.
Sean and I were fully recovered.
We're like, going down is going to be easier.
Yeah.
Well, before we start heading down, we're at the lake and they've got this picture of
a chipmunk.
And right next to the picture is this little pamphlet that says, hey.
Skull and crossbones.
Yeah.
Hey, look, careful.
Don't pet the chipmunks because you'll get the plague.
The plague.
Yeah.
That's what you want.
That's what you want to read at the top of Lake Tahoe.
I'm like, what the fuck, man?
The plague.
Yeah.
Like what killed like millions of people back in the Middle Ages.
But I'm like, why is the city investing money on putting up pamphlets about the plague?
Because it's got to be for real.
I mean, if they want to do something that can control the plague in their own cities,
kill all the squirrels.
Well, this is the middle of nowhere.
So there's a shitload of squirrels, a bunch of chipmunk squirrels, all kinds of little
critters.
I see what you're going with.
How many people are getting plague in fucking California, Lake Tahoe?
Well, no, think about think about San Francisco.
Those people are vacationing in Lake Tahoe and they have the plague and they're giving
it to the squirrels.
Because they shit everywhere.
Are they fornicating or?
Well, no, they shit in the streets.
You don't have to fornicate with a squirrel to give it to them.
You can just like you give it mouth to mouth.
No, it has to do with their feces, I believe.
They try to squeeze their anal glands.
Could be fake vanilla.
Maybe they take some of those chipmunks and they shove them up their ass.
Plague detected at Tahoe area campground, a flea.
There you go from a yellow chip from a yellow chipmunk, the plague.
I see.
And you guys were giving me shit about wanting to kill the squirrels in my backyard.
Yeah.
Well, hell no.
I was a rodent that carried the plague.
I don't give you shit.
They don't.
Yeah, they do.
They carry the plague.
Where?
Black.
Like Tahoe.
Those are yellow chipmunks.
Those are different.
Those are squirrels.
Yeah, they are.
They are squirrels.
It's in the rodent family.
Actually, they were extremely cute.
They were petite.
And if you had something in your hand and you threw it on there, they would run up and
they would grab it.
And you were doing exactly what the sign said not to do, dumbass.
Oh, I was getting close.
There's the sign right there.
What's wrong with you?
I was sniffing them.
Yeah, so Sean had the theory that it was Nancy Pelosi's San Francisco.
Yeah, with the shit everywhere in San Francisco, all over the roads.
Yeah, well, I had taken a picture of that little plague warning and I posted on one
of the social media platforms.
I was like, thanks, Pelosi.
Oh, you trolled the Democrats.
Did you get any feedback?
They were like, I hear you, son.
I'm going to have to delete you as a friend.
That was something unrelated to that, but yes, they did delete you as a friend.
So I saw that.
And then at that time, I was playing with the chipmunks and Jeff was kind of like, I
heard him say he's leaving, but I didn't get up right away.
But I did get up and followed him down there.
And next thing you know, the boys are gone.
Yeah, they leave us again.
They're like sprinting down the mountain.
What the hell?
Didn't you like tell them, hey, guys, next time wait for us on the way down.
They didn't go straight down, but they they went they hauled ass down.
They were in with a yelling distance.
I'm thinking they should have constructed a rudimentary stretcher for you guys.
We should have gotten carried you down on the way down.
We should have gotten leashes on the way down.
I guess Preston, he had to go to the bathroom.
Oh, great.
But flew like really bad.
I wonderful.
I was carrying my satchel and had some bottles, bottles of water and had some some some flushable
wipes, some man wipes, man wipes.
Man wipes.
Hey, look, if you're going to have something out in the middle of the field, it smells
like man wipes.
It smells like cedar.
We've been over this.
I'm a big fan of man wipes.
So your ass could smell like cedar and bourbon.
Yes.
Well, you get you use your man wipes to clean off your dildo.
I mean, I use mine to.
Well, you need that to smell good, too.
Who are you talking about?
Yeah, Paul, we're looking at you.
You're looking at my dildos.
I don't know.
Dildos.
You named it.
I don't want my dildos.
What's wrong with you?
So Preston, he's like, I'm going to the bathroom.
What am I going to wipe with?
I think I wipe with his pine cone.
And you know, you should have said, yeah, that's perfect.
Yeah.
Well, I was I was happy to oblige.
Well, we weren't there.
Well, hopefully he went off the trail like maybe more than he did.
And Steven took actually a video of it.
He did.
Why would they do that?
Because they're stupid.
They're stupid.
They are.
Those boys.
I'm telling you, when we got to got to Lake Tahoe, those boys disappeared.
They wouldn't park the car somewhere.
And I'll tell you the things that they do.
They parked the car.
They climbed up a mountain and they brought their really nice camera with them and they
took photos and a photo op.
I change a fucking clothes.
They change clothes on top of a mountain.
They did.
And they did a photo op.
That's planning.
OK.
I like that.
They're not.
And they're in shape.
I'm not.
They are.
I'm not.
And they raced up the mountain and raced down the mountain.
I'm not messing with you.
I'm just kind of I'm trying to fill in the blanks of their mindset.
So and then they get did they get a double bike?
They did.
Oh, my God.
They got a tandem bike.
See, they're helping each other get up the mountain with the bike.
That's that's bad.
And they were disappointed because I don't think they could go as fast as they wanted.
Well, there's something wrong with the bike, I think.
And they came back and they're like, yeah, it wasn't what we wanted.
And I don't know what they're doing.
I think they were expected to go like 80 miles an hour down the main strip of Tahoe.
I had grown up in New Jersey.
We lived on base and they had a soldier, a military soldier's rental place.
You could rent a tandem bike for like a ridiculous amount, like for five bucks a day.
Right.
It was crazy.
And my friend and I, we rented it.
And I told the story to Preston about how we got on that tandem bike and we hauled ass
and we did haul.
You set an expectation.
I did.
But we did.
And, you know, I don't know what was going on with that bike.
I think it was just probably a governor on it of some sort.
How are their gears?
I didn't allow them to go above a certain speed.
You know what I love about this story, though, when you guys are describing the boys and
how they like do stupid shit, it's like when you're that age, every everything you do is
a blank slate.
Like, let's do this and see what happens.
Let's do that and see what happens.
That's how you learn.
Right.
And but us, like, you know, when we're I mean, we get pessimistic about life very quickly.
We all do.
So when you're in the mid thirties or forties, I don't know, you're like,
Tandem bike.
Screw that.
Yeah.
You're like, that sounds like a work.
Yeah.
You know, that's like nothing's a blank slate.
Everything's like it's got this jaded pessimistic.
That's too hard.
That's too much work.
How about a rickshaw?
I can ride the back.
Isn't that funny, though?
I mean, you look at that.
That's exactly what's driving their mental attitude.
It's like, oh, I've never done that before.
Let's do it.
Come on.
Let's see what happens.
You know what I mean?
Everything's a blank slate.
I love that about the younger generation.
Well, we're that way.
Exactly.
That's my point.
Yeah.
That's my point.
That's exactly my point.
I think that's a cool thing, though.
Back when I was happy.
Yeah.
I mean, when I when when my son sends me pictures of what they're doing, I'm like, what the
what are you doing?
Right.
And then I have to remind myself, oh, they're just, you know, they're just doing fun shit
like whatever comes to their mind.
And I think back to my college days and I'm like, I did that and ten times more.
Right.
They're not through yet, so they have a long way to go.
Yeah.
No, it's good stuff.
I know my college experience was off the walls, man.
It was crazy.
Yeah.
Yeah, I know.
So you just do stupid stuff.
Preston ended up he ended up pooping, fucking filmed it.
And he ended up leaving those little what flushable wet wipes.
I think that probably normally I would complain, but they said they're flushable, which tells
me that they're biodegradable and probably still out there.
Yeah, whatever.
I'm sure the animals ate it.
And there was a man.
There were a lot of trees that fell.
I mean, on the trip up the walk up there, I mean, first of all, the trees are abnormal.
They're large.
These are large trees.
Very, very large.
Sequoias.
Yeah.
Sequoias.
Is that what they are?
They're redwoods.
No, it's their big ass pine trees.
You can cut a hole in the middle of it and drive a car through it.
They're not quite that large.
It's not your asshole.
They're just big ass pine trees.
I don't know what kind they are, but I mean, even the acorns.
Have you guys not seen?
About football size.
Have you ever been to a redwood forest?
I've been to mirrorwoods.
I mean, they're gigantic.
Yeah, I've been to mirrorwoods.
These are not freaky.
These are not redwoods.
But they are large, large redwoods in storm wind.
Yeah, they're not.
It's insane.
World of Warcraft.
Some of the small ones right there.
Oh, that's the same thing.
They're not that big.
Right there?
World of Warcraft.
Yeah, they look just like the stuff in World of Warcraft.
But those trees behind it.
In World of Warcraft, they have these trees you can like live in.
You see the thinner ones?
They're not real.
You see the thinner ones there?
That's how big they are.
Yeah, I got you.
But they're tall.
Of course.
They're hundreds of years old.
But anyway, there's many of them that have fallen.
Yeah.
Oh, well, they're not that old then.
But there's dead trees.
Oh, yeah, they're right there.
Yeah, I mean, we can...
See?
Look at that.
You could drive a car through that.
No, you couldn't.
Or at least a motorcycle.
God, that looks very...
Maybe a smart car.
Look how it's burned on the inside.
Like a dinosaur.
It's not burned.
It's dark.
No, it's burned.
That's why the tree is split.
No, it's not.
Oh, my God.
It's fungus.
Not fungus.
What's wrong with you guys?
It's mold.
It's black mold.
That is, redwood doesn't...
Well, actually, redwood does get moldy.
What is that?
That's your attempt to burp?
You know what?
You need to take a time out.
I burned the roof of my mouth doing that.
Well, good.
You deserve that.
Put some bottom into that.
That was pretty weak.
It was very high-pitched.
Yeah.
I'm sorry.
You're like a flugelhorn.
Fuck, I'll do better.
Yeah.
I don't know.
Give me a minute.
You need some bottom in that.
God, that really hit me in the lower head.
I've never been insulted like this before.
This is a new experience for me.
He's had some juice mixed in him.
So, two hours...
You burped like a pussy.
Two hours to get up, two and a half hours to get all the way to the top.
And we stayed maybe 15, 20 minutes.
Let's go.
What is that?
We stopped by the snack bar.
Vacation, remember, when you're standing by the Grand Canyon?
Right.
Okay.
Yeah.
Let's go.
I forgot how long...
We went in the snack bar.
We got something.
I forgot what it was.
Well, they're known for their lemonade, wasn't it?
Corn dog.
It was like 12 bucks for a cup of lemonade.
It was absolutely ridiculous.
Yeah, but you were like desperate to suck it down, I'm sure.
Well, it was the only thing around within a two hour climb.
You're like, all right, I'll take some.
So we...
They're not stupid.
We got some snacks and then we started the haul down.
And going down was...
I think it took 30 minutes.
Yeah, going down was easier.
My feet gave me problems, but going down is much easier than going up.
So it's five and a half hours going up and 33 minutes going down.
Yeah.
Yeah, coming down was much easier, except for me, my feet were the problem.
And the cool thing, even after we got down, we got to the car and like Jeff was mentioning
that the base of the lake is a firehouse.
Well, the roads to get to that firehouse...
It's almost one way.
... are extremely narrow and almost all of it is one way.
And there are little parcels, little sections of land that are...
It's like if the road is traveling, the world is winding down the mountain and you have
the cliff.
And let's say the cliff has a little bit of land there and someone decided to buy that
land and build a house on it within 20 feet.
So there's little houses everywhere.
No, there's big houses.
Big houses all crammed right next to each other.
On the side of a cliff on a one way street.
Yeah, millions of dollars of these homes.
Damn.
And it's like, you know, and if you...
I mean, it's amazing.
I wish we had taken some pictures of that.
I think one had like a rail system, didn't it?
Where they could put...
Like I saw one that had a...
It was almost like not a roller coaster, but it had like a track where they could move
from one section to the other.
A monorail.
No, but it was...
No, it had two rails.
It was two rails.
A bi-rail.
So I don't know if...
I don't think they rode in it, but they could move shit back and forth between the house
and the other building that they had.
Anyway, it was ridiculous.
It's an old coal...
Oh, well, something like that.
Coal bucket truck.
Yeah, but I couldn't imagine being in that firehouse and there's a...
There's traffic going both ways, essentially down a one way lane.
And the way you get around it is there's little carve outs into the side of the mountain.
So cars will pull off to the side and you're...
That sounds awful.
You're kind of...
Are they all super congested?
Too many people and...
There was a system.
Tourists everywhere.
There's a system.
I hate crowded places.
That sounds crap.
It wasn't that bad.
It wasn't that bad, but you dealt with traffic.
Right.
Amazingly, but I couldn't imagine...
It'd be wonderful to live there, but the traffic in and out would drive me nuts.
It'd be a nightmare.
Yeah.
Now, you'd have to own a helicopter.
Or a boat.
Oh, yeah.
I would just take a boat.
I'd park my car down there, drive my boat, and then come get it.
It was nice, though.
Cool.
It sounds like a great vacation.
It is.
I'd recommend it.
I want to go back.
Yeah?
My dad lives out there, so that's why we were out there.
Yeah, it's just...
Yeah.
Well, if you got to go again.
It's so expensive.
I know.
It is.
Excuse me.
It's so...
We're in California.
The plane ride and the lodging.
I mean...
We could drive it.
It would take about three days to drive it.
Yeah, I don't think that's...
That's not very fun.
What we did once is we flew into Vegas.
Because you can find a Vegas for...
Three days.
Really?
It takes that long?
It's about 28 hours straight.
So break that up however you want.
Yeah, that's beautiful.
With a family, you're about three days, if you have kids.
Now, you may be able to do it in two days.
That's a long day.
But that's to my dad's house.
So to get to Tahoe, it's another hour or so past that.
We flew into Vegas, because you can find the Vegas dirt cheap.
Dirt cheap.
Could.
You can't do it now, but you used to be able to.
I don't know what it is now.
So we flew into Vegas one year when we were going out there to visit my dad.
We drove from Vegas to his house, which is in Carson Valley.
He's about an hour and a half south of Reno.
Right at the base of the mountains.
Like directly...
You have Lake Tahoe, and then you go down the mountain, and he's right there.
That's where they shot Bonanza.
And it's about an eight hour drive from Vegas to his house.
And you are driving through the desert.
Right.
I mean, desert, desert.
You actually see a turnoff for Death Valley.
Right. Flat and dry.
Flat and there is nothing.
Is that worth it? The eight hours?
So it takes you what? Three hours to get to Vegas?
It's about a two and a half hour flight to Vegas.
We stayed the night, saw the sights at Vegas, saw a show.
And then we drove.
Yeah, that right there. That 95.
You just take boom, all the way to go through Tonopah.
And it goes through, you know, Death Valley is around there somewhere.
Yeah, I mean, there's nothing out there.
Goldfield.
There's Tonopah.
You kind of go to the left at that point.
And wow, it's there's nothing out there.
Absolutely nothing. Cool.
There's a little lake there.
That's Topaz. Walker River Indian Lake.
Yeah, it's Walker.
Then you have there's Lake Tahoe right there.
There's Carson City.
I can't wait to go back.
I don't know if I ever will.
I would love to go back.
Well, I'm going back.
I'm going back.
You're more than welcome.
So I want to go.
You're not welcome.
I'm in shape.
No, that's why.
Because you'll show us.
You know, here's the thing.
No, no, I help you.
I want to I want to do that.
I want to go up the mountain again.
We need to get a train.
We need to train for that, though, and prepare ourselves.
Train.
Let's just do it.
No, no, I think you should train.
And what we're going to do is we're older.
And I think you should probably train for about five years.
You know, we're going to train for a while.
Well, well, first, we make the trip.
And but I mean, I like to figure out where we can stay up there.
There's all kinds of places to stay.
We want to stay in the same place, which was nice.
Yeah, I want to look.
I'm at a point in my life where I don't mind spending a little bit
extra to for a little bit more luxury and accommodations.
It's all about the quality of life at this point.
Oh, it is.
You know, if it's going to cost me an extra 10 bucks to have a shitter
come in.
Yes.
See Lake Tahoe is at sixty two hundred feet.
So you start at sixty two hundred feet.
But not to say I can't camp.
I mean, if we if we get a camper out there, but where the hell are we
going to get a camper?
You're going to rent an RV.
That's expensive as shit, dude.
That's five thousand bucks a week.
Is it?
I think so.
Plus fuel and mileage.
They charge you for mileage.
They used to because I looked into it.
What if we?
Yeah, I don't know.
They charge you like so many like five wheel.
They can't charge for fifth wheel mileage.
I don't know.
We'll take your truck out there and pull an RV around.
I've thought about it.
Yeah, that'd be fun.
Well, I mean, we could always do like.
Send.
Send somebody out with the car.
I mean, have someone pull it out there or drive it out there, just hire
somebody and just say, hey, one of our kids.
Yeah.
Or just hire somebody and say, hey, I need you to drive this car from
here to there and and then drive back, drop it off and come back.
And then we fly.
I mean, because it's going to take it to say three days, pay them two
hundred bucks.
Three days.
We get two cars when we went out there.
Just we did.
We had to.
We had to have two cars because.
You know, I could be in the same car with you farting, especially at
that altitude.
Right.
Anyway, it's a nice place, though.
Yeah.
Sounds beautiful.
It is.
And I don't know if it's open yet.
You know, California is as backward as they are.
What food place should we get sliders from before we made it to Lake Tahoe?
We stopped by like some slider place or standard dollars.
My garage door.
Oh, slider place.
It was before we made it to Lake Tahoe.
So this is so we were in California.
We flew into Sacramento and we we drove from Sacramento.
We stayed the night in Sacramento.
Yeah.
Because that's when the boys were in bikinis and the 30 year old mom was
checking them out where they were speedos.
The hell the boys were speedos.
Black speedos.
To the hotel pool.
Wow.
And then they were all cocky.
See, that's taking the whole blank slate thing a little too far.
They got all cocky.
They got in the pool and everything because no one was there.
And then all of a sudden this this cute blonde lady in her 30s shows up and
she's she's pretty.
And she's got a couple of kids.
She's checking them out.
Oh, yeah.
What?
Oh, yeah.
Me and Mrs. John.
Yeah, they're wanting a piece of that.
She's wanting a piece of that.
Yeah.
And we're all in the hot tub and she was in the hot tub with us and she was hot.
This big hot tub, though.
Don't make it sound like it was cozy.
Yeah, it was.
It was a big.
It was like you're calling the full.
No, it was eight foot by 12 foot pool.
It was it was a big one.
She's over there by herself.
She was on the other side.
She had two kids.
Yeah, she had a couple of kids.
Yeah.
OK.
Speedos, huh?
Yes, speedos.
It was crazy.
How dumb.
So the sliders, I don't know.
There was a restaurant we went to that had a buffet that we went to.
Austin, remember that that night?
Yeah, I just wanted to know the place.
I don't know what the sliders were.
Is that where your dad went to lunch with us?
No, this is before we even made it to Lake Tahoe.
This is this is hotel.
We were at the hotel.
We went to this one place for dinner or lunch and the food there was absolute garbage.
I don't remember.
I don't remember that at all.
That was in Sacramento, though.
It was a it was a food place.
And it's just like knowing the name, you're like, oh, no wonder it's garbage.
It had something to do with like is that where you dropped your sizzler?
The sizzler.
Yeah, sizzler.
Is that where you dropped your phone out front?
Yeah.
So that was the one where they had the buffet we were eating.
I don't read that.
It's just learned all.
Did we?
Yeah.
Wow.
Because I remember getting barbecue sliders and they did have Costco had a.
Oh, I do remember that Costco sold booze.
Yeah.
They do down in Collin County.
And they they sell these popsicle stick, you know, those little Kool-Aid sticks they freeze.
I've got some downstairs.
Would you like some?
Yeah.
Do they have alcohol?
Yes.
They do?
Yes.
OK, yeah.
I'll go get us.
Well, let's do that during the during the break.
Yeah.
All right.
So we'll talk about with instead of a bourbon, we'll talk to talk about alcoholic.
We'll still do that.
We'll talk about alcoholic.
What did you call them?
Well, they're vodka pops.
Yeah, the vodka pops.
So there's vodka.
They were good.
They don't sell them here in Texas.
Do they sell now?
They sell wine version.
Yeah.
So it's not booze.
Those are the vodka pops.
Those were different.
They're called vodka pops.
Vodka pops.
Well, I'm willing to try one.
They're good.
We'll do that during the break.
And when we come back, we'll we'll we'll sample them.
Yeah.
You know, I you were talking about the stupid shit we do when we're in college.
One one story is kind of a random story, but it jumps out at me.
So we had just my roommate and I he and I went to high school together.
Right.
And they say, don't ever do that.
Right.
Don't ever room with your high school roommate, you know, because you want to meet new guys
and whatever.
Anyway, so we that doesn't always work.
It doesn't always work out, by the way.
It doesn't.
It doesn't work out.
And I can share lots of stories about what worked and what didn't work.
But he and I are great friends still to this day.
Anyway, so we moved into this dorm and this dorm is like an old 60s and maybe even 50s
block style dorm and cinder block wall.
Yes.
That's what I stayed at.
Nothing gets into this thing.
Right.
So we move in.
We're all excited.
And, you know, like blank, blank slate stuff.
We're super excited.
And we're trying to get the radio.
We want some music desperately.
We want to get the radio.
We want some music desperately.
We want some music.
And we hook up our little stereos and all this kind of stuff and try to turn on the radio
and why you just stream it.
That's a great question, Jeff.
Back in nineteen.
Let's see.
Eighty ninety eighty nine.
Yeah.
Put the Pandora.
Yeah.
Stream.
I kept saying over and over again, Alexa, Alexa and everybody was looking at me like
I was nuts.
You were ahead of the game.
I was.
And so we're desperately trying to get the radio.
And so all we're getting is kids these days don't have to deal with that.
Right.
So here's what we do.
We're getting all creative.
Right.
And I have an umbrella just like E.T.
Right.
I grab the umbrella.
I take the wires.
I connect them to the umbrella.
He is teetering precariously out of the window.
And I'm like, you know, and we're going to.
I mean, we're getting a little bit.
Right.
And he's just enough to like think that this may work.
Right.
OK.
So he's leaning out of the window.
It's just a second floor.
So he probably wouldn't have died if he'd fallen out.
But he's holding out with the with the in trying to get Houston radio.
So he's forcing is in Colts Station.
So we're forcing it to the south.
And all sudden the radio becomes clear, clear as day and it goes, hey, ninety ninety five
or whatever.
If you can't hear us, then move.
I'm not kidding.
And at that point, we're like, fuck, folded up the umbrella, threw the shit onto the ground.
You know what I mean?
And like, you know, gave up on it.
But I mean, it's funny.
Like, that's the kind of shit that our boys would would they do this every day.
Right.
Like the movie Real Genius, stupid stuff like that.
Val Kilmer, Val Kilmer.
Real Genius.
You've seen that movie?
Of course.
Yeah, it's a great movie.
Have you heard him talk recently?
Is he he's not doing so good.
Well, didn't he have to answer?
Well, he had the he has an area around.
Yeah, I believe he had throat cancer.
I believe so.
He had throat cancer.
And I think I think he has cancer.
Yeah.
He had I don't know if he has the vibrator box or if he just like that.
Now, I don't know.
But it's really, really bad.
I know.
It's really bad.
Poor guy.
Still alive.
But, you know, there is a second picture on the right in the middle.
Yeah.
And it doesn't even seem that long ago when he made The Saint with Elizabeth Shue.
Yes.
And they're both like, you know, hotties, right?
Smoking hot.
Both of them.
What am I funny with?
Fancy with the Valk did Val Kilmer do top secret areas right there in the middle.
I see him holding his throat.
Apparently he was in.
He's in the new Top Gun movie.
Top Gun.
Yeah.
Top Gun 2.
I wonder if they're going to dub his voice in if they're.
I don't know.
But he's in it.
Explain why his voice sounds like.
Anyway, it's.
He's very difficult to hear.
But yeah, he had throat cancer.
So it's unfortunate.
It is very unfortunate.
Well, I have liked almost all of Val Kilmer's movies.
I've heard about him personally being kind of a dick.
Have you?
Yeah.
Like he's tough to work with.
Yeah.
That's what I've heard.
But.
Well, he played a good asshole in The Iceman.
Oh, yeah.
What's the top gun?
The original.
Top Gun.
The real cocky.
So my two favorite movies with him is the Heat.
Heat.
Not the Heat, but Heat.
Oh, that's good.
Oh, he's he's great.
And that's a fantastic movie.
And then the other one, actually, my favorite is The Saint.
Now is the Saint where he was like, what is the top secret was good to the.
He's with Elizabeth.
He's with Elizabeth Shoe.
And he's kind of like this a mercenary, a mercenary spy.
No, not a spy.
And he was in a shitload of stuff.
He's like a burglar.
Right.
But he's like a top notch, amazing burglar.
And then people pay him to do shit.
And I know I've seen it, but I don't know what the Saint.
Oh, that was a remake from a 60s show.
Yes.
And the Saint right there.
Boom.
So good.
Yeah.
He was a remake from the 60s.
You got to watch it.
It's so good.
And then the other one, I think, is the thief for hire's latest job to steal the secret
process for Cold Fusion puts him at odds with the traitor bent on toppling the Russian
government, as well as the woman who holds its secrets.
So what is Val short for?
I don't know.
Valerie.
Valum.
I don't know.
Vladimir.
I wonder what his background is.
Like.
Val Edward.
Like his lineage.
Maybe Val is kind of like a Vaughn.
Click on his click on it.
Is he from his family from like Los Angeles?
Originally.
Right.
I don't know.
His mother is of Swedish descent.
His father is English.
So I guess it's.
Yeah, that seems like a Scandinavian type of name.
For sure.
Scottish Irish.
Scottish.
Scorch.
Roar.
Go up a little bit more.
What was that where he's at?
Is that the military there?
The island of Doctor Moreau.
Was as bad as it once said.
Oh, well.
Yes.
I never saw that one.
I never even heard of it.
Well, real genius.
You never heard of the island of Doctor Moreau?
No.
That was a remake.
The original is pretty good.
Was it?
Yeah.
Yeah, you're right, though.
He's in a ton of movies.
Yeah, but they're all like C class.
Well, at the end.
In the end, yes.
In the beginning, I remember he played the doors.
I saw that when I was in college.
Oh, yeah, he was good.
He played Jim Morrison.
The door.
Oh, yeah, that was good.
He was good.
But it's yes, it was a top gun.
Yeah, I told you.
More.
More wet.
Wet.
More.
What the hell?
More.
Cold.
hear that again though. That was kind of... Yes. Oh, he was in Willow. You know, I heard...
Willow was a great movie! I heard Disney is going to make a TV show under Disney Plus
with the Willow story. The whole story there. The Redhead in Willow, I had a
huge crush on and she was never... I've never saw her in another movie. She's
been in some other things. Has she? Oh, lady. Lady wants some love. Willow is such a good
movie. I love that movie. I'm gonna look that up and watch it again. The Redhead in there
was so cute. I don't know who the hell you're talking about. Sorsha. Sorsha? Yeah. Joanne
Wiley? Who is that, Jeff? Joanne Wiley? Yeah, she's been in... No, the front door. No, it's my neighbor. Your
neighbor's in your house? No, he knocked on the door. Look how cute she was. Wow! That is a
striking woman right there. Did Julie let him in? She answered the door. Oh. Very cute. Yeah, she's been...
she was in some other things, but... I don't remember seeing her in anything other than that
movie. She was only in one movie. That's not true. She was in Ferris Bueller, wasn't she? No. That's not her? I know
who you're thinking of though. Yes. She's beautiful too. She was in Willow. She was in Willow. She wasn't
Willow. That was her one movie. And there he was. Yeah, see, she's been in a bunch of... Of course she's been in more than one movie. I just
don't remember him... I don't remember seeing her in any other movies. She was in Golf in the
Kingdom. No. The Virgin Queen. The Californians. See? There we go. Anyways. All right, moving on. Backtrack to
Val Kilmer and Top Gun and new movies coming out. What are the... Go back to... Kind of looking forward to
the new Top Gun. I think maybe more maybe because of nostalgia more than anything. Of course. You know nostalgia
because... When did that come out? 87? 88 maybe? Was it earlier than that? That was... Yeah, mid 80s. Well, you know what movie... I know
Paul's gonna go see this. 1985. Godzilla vs. Kong. Oh God. I saw the preview for it. I'm not gonna watch it. I saw the preview during
the tournament and I was like, why? Comes out tomorrow. Let's go. No. First in line. White Evan Williams
label. Midnight showing tonight. White Evans bottle and bond. I'm in. You're gonna yell, get him! You can do your high stepping. Get him Godzilla! You guys need to bring your slings.
No. That was such a horrible idea. Yeah. I think it's great. You bring your both. You bring ice. Yeah. And we're not gonna bring Peach
Bourbon. Big no. Sean. Yeah, that was you. Oh, you know what? You ruined that concert for me. Did you bring something? I brought the sling. I'm
the one that had to walk that shit in. I brought. I risked my life for you guys. We got honey and peach. I brought it. Who does that? I brought Blanton's. Somebody that wanted to
treat you guys like the studs that you are. It was all sticky. It was gross. In retrospect. It ruined the concert for me. I don't think it ruined it. I think my night of sleep
ruined my concert. No, I think the hotel wasn't that bad. The hotel accommodations were horrible. It's on a dead body in one of them. No, you saw an outline. It's different. Sperm was everywhere.
The black light. Who turns on the black light in a hotel like that? Sean. OK, first off, you can go to a high end hotel, four stars and turn on the black light and be like horrified.
Have you ever done it? No, but I'm just saying you just try to get out of it. I know your hotel pick was horrible. Yes, bring it was a nightmare. We got the plague that time. I bring a sleeping bag with me when I go to hotels.
The chipmunks from Tahoe. You do. That's weird. Is it? Yeah, you sleep in a hotel bed in a in a sleeping bag. Yeah, you're a germaphobe. Yeah. Well, I mean, actually, yes. Yes, you are. No, no, no. I don't know anybody else that does that. Well, I think I would have that night. I'm a germaphobe. I had one. Well, yeah, that hotel was bad. But you know, I was so liquored up on peach and honey bourbon. I didn't care. Yeah, and you feel great.
Oh, come on. So that concert was over. The bars were open. Oh, my God. And then we're standing outside with the singer from Moody Blues. And he was saying, I own this restaurant and let's hang out with Paul. Come on, Paul and Jeff. No, that was Sean's buddy. Oh, the guy with the boat. Yeah, he started talking to the yard house or something like that.
Is that the concert where you knocked me down when we were leaving the concert? I think that no, that was the one before that for for we didn't knock you down. You did. You knocked me to the floor. You know, this has been a conversation over and over.
You literally knocked me to that's why your shoulders bad. Yeah, exactly. Come on. I'm just walking along going, God, that was so good. And he kicked my no, I don't know what you did. The next thing I know, I'm on my back staring at the ceiling. No, completely unprovoked attack going. That was a great jujitsu move. I don't know what it was. He pulled his jujitsu.
I'm sorry. No, that's not how exactly how it happened. Even though Jerry's claims that he witnessed it, Jerry only saw half of it. He saw the whole thing and I felt the rest.
I tell you, it was strange after the the Kansas and 38 special, the the elderly gentleman who kind of latched on to those mainly it was Sean and I over there and then he came up and it was strange. He was odd. And I'm not sure if he was. I asked her what they.
I don't know if he was he was hitting on us or if he was just a lonely dude. They may have been just I don't know. I want to say hi. I don't think it's swinging it. They were because it was two dudes. He had like some hearing. I'm not saying all guys that have earrings, but this is 2020.
And you know what? I want to backtrack on that whole thing. So I don't know and I don't care. They bought us a couple of Bud lights and you drank yours, by the way, and I left. But you don't know you didn't leave because you had a second one that they bought.
Oh, then I left it. And you got it. I think you did leave me hanging. That was really awkward. I remember walking up to that situation. Everybody's kind of huddled around.
Everybody's a huddle around this guy and you're standing right next to him and being very friendly. And I was like, what's going on here? Like, who is this guy? And and what's going on? Yeah, it was.
That's when the guys started literally smelled awkward from the get go. And he had when I want he had a contractor that he wanted to introduce. Yes. And he was an overalls and I don't think anything else underneath. He's a painter.
Yeah. You realize had we left you there, you would be your body be stuffed in a well right now. Missing a kidney.
OK, I like that scenario better in the bathtub. You would have woken up with one kidney and maybe part of your liver. I'll take that one. Well, your liver will grow back.
Yeah, exactly. It was odd, though. It was really ill. The whole thing is awkward. Months later, one of them called me back. The contractor. Wow. Hey, Sean. Hey, how are you? Well, he was looking for work. Kind of like your plumber.
Hey, how you doing? His dreamy eyes. Yeah. Yeah. So apparently he was called for work. Him and Ted or whatever the guy's name was. They had a fallen out.
I don't know. I didn't ask at the time. I would hope you wouldn't know those details. Hey, what's going on with you? Very thankful that you don't know. I don't have a clue.
Now, I mean, this guy looked like he looked like he had huge hair. He looked like he could have been one of the singers for from Whitesnake or something.
It was all permed and everything and frosted. Big old bucket of hair. He had frosted perm. And then his friend was the painter with the earring and the hoop in his ear. And they're kind of like, I don't know. You know, you know, and part of me was like, OK, well, maybe they're kind of. You sensed it.
There was part of you know, see, that's the difference between you and I will say it. No, no, it was awkward from the beginning. And then, no, I wasn't thinking the gay thing. I was thinking, OK, what if these guys are they've got money and they're really lonely, really lonely guys?
And that's what group and they see a group of guys. We all came out together from the concert. Hey, what's up? And I don't know. Maybe they were like, you know, wanted to hang out with a group of guys.
That's the story. And they're lonely. That's the story he told us. Old lonely dudes. He's like, yeah, we just moved up here to the Dallas area. Yeah. And I've got a boat. I've got a new to the area. No, that's not how it went down.
Oh, he's got I've got a boat and I can take out the boat. I have a boat. He did say that. I know. I have Sean the whole time. I own a restaurant. Tell me more about your boat. Oh, do you have a large mansion? It's large.
Come on, guys. Let's hang out with these guys. Meanwhile, we're inching away very cautiously. And you were like, oh, yeah, tier one. No, no, you you fucking bailed on me. I'm stuck. Yeah, you were stuck.
Maybe that's why I jumped you. Yeah, well, that was the previous show. We're still looking for your kid. That's the previous show. It's a previous show. It is a previous show.
But it was good fun. Yeah, that was that was an odd time. Well, the previous show we saw the Infinite Journey. I was not there for that.
Foreigner guy. That was amazing. No, it was after I know Infinite Journey. We so we leave the former concert. We should have been there, Jeff. I'm sorry. I wish you had been there. I honestly I don't think we I mean, did you and I Jeff did.
Friends back then. I thought you were a douche. I just heard this guy named Paul's like, you know, and then he was like, oh, my God, you're very well. Where's hearing aids. Yeah. And I get that. I don't associate with I get that. A lot of people are very uncomfortable with the hearing aid.
And repeat everything over and over and over. Yeah. Yeah, you do. I don't sign language. You have to three Pete over and over again. No. What did you say? Sign language. Yes. I like dying. What? Huh?
What are you? Damn, it's so hard to understand. Trying to read the lips of microphones. Anyway, dang it. What was I going to say? Something about it.
I made fun of my hearing and Infinite Journey. Infinite Journey. No, it's foreigner. Oh, I remember. OK. July 10th. Loverboy Loverboy. I checked all. I've got eight tickets. So here's the and if you wait too much longer, I've got nine guys that probably would be interested. So talk to me.
Well, I mean, you know, show me the money. How much? I'm kidding. OK, so you're in. Yeah, I mean, it can't be that much. Hundred bucks each. Oh, there. No, God. No, no. No. No, no. No, no, no. They're eight or nine. Well, we have a huge history. Eight or nine.
89.
I should have said 99.
These concerts, these small, I enjoy man.
When we come back, when you talk about some of the concerts, we kind of loop this up a little bit.
It's fun. It's fun.
And I'll pick the hotel.
How about we stay at the Choctaw Hotel?
Ooh, this camp outside.
Just like with a tent?
Nah, like a tent outside of Choctaw.
In July? No thanks.
Excuse me.
You're freaking hot.
Yeah, I would be.
What did you say?
We're going to camp in the middle of July.
Instead of getting a hotel, we're going to camp out in the wilderness.
No.
That's a hard pass.
Unless the tent has an air conditioner.
Which they do make those.
Alright.
Thank you.