I'm in the middle of, you know, doing my pregame.
Andy Bush's record.
We've been pregaming for 45 minutes.
Oh yeah.
We pregamed in the first half.
I do a stretch.
I do like a la la la la la la la la.
You do lunges.
No, he's talking about his belt.
Oh yeah, he doesn't do that.
I'm like, oh, you're fucking pie.
Who brings up pie to the green room?
Well you do after Thanksgiving, you have a bunch of pie left.
Two slices of, three slices of pie for you.
Jeff is trying to one up.
He says, look at me, I've lost 180 pounds and I'm going to make you guys gain it so
I look better.
You guys haven't.
No, I just don't, I can't, we didn't have to eat it.
I could have not brought it up.
But Paul's like, go get your pies.
Did you say that Paul?
It wasn't me, it was you.
I did not.
You had three.
You said, let's, what'd you say?
Let's just, let's rip this bit.
No, what'd you say?
Let's just jump right in, go get that pie.
You said that's what you said.
I thought we were going downstairs to go get the pie.
I didn't realize he's bringing it up.
Whatever.
Don't pin this on me.
I'm not pinning on you, I'm just saying, you know, we get the pie, we go downstairs,
we get a plate, you know, bring the whole pies up here and then we fucking dive into
it 10 times.
That was a mistake.
It was good though.
It was good.
Good pie.
I went to jump on my trampoline until eight in the morning to get rid of that calorie.
Wait, so then it just comes out your mouth?
All right, well that works too.
It's called a binge and purge, right?
Check us out on dudes.goss-podcast, dudes.goss-woodcraft, the Instagram or Facebook.
So your, your, your, your, your bouncy thing is just for bulimia?
Is that what's going on?
You jump on it until the food you ate comes out of your mouth?
No, the trampoline is for your core strength.
All right, but I mean, that's not what you were saying.
No, I was saying you gotta burn calories.
That's what I was saying.
Yes.
I was just saying I was gonna burn calories.
I would have to burn calories.
The amount of jumping that I would have to do to burn the calories that I just ingested
out there during the halftime time.
You'd be going until tomorrow morning.
Jesus man.
I mean, I tore it up because it was such a good pie.
The apple pie was good.
The chocolate chip shit was good.
Why don't you maniacate?
You maniacate, maniacate on the, on the.
Let's go Chris Farley on that.
Yeah.
Yeah, you get the chair and have the water pour on you and everything.
But on the.
Flash dance.
But on the.
So it's kind of bouncing.
What's the, not bouncing thing.
What's the damn thing called?
Trampoline.
You gotta be on the trampoline while you're, while you're maniacing it.
We haven't even started the second half bourbon and this is.
What?
So it's, it's December 3rd.
It's the second half of the podcast.
It's Dude Like Us.
I'm Sean.
And I am Jeff.
Hello Jeff.
Yes.
And we are.
We are dudes like us.
We are dudes like us and we're, we're a little challenged because you know what, for as low
proof as that 1910 Forrester, old Forrester we had, it was very tasty.
Very tasty.
It was.
We never rated it.
No we didn't.
We did.
We did not.
Oh my God.
We're so dumb.
Yeah.
This is the podcast of incorrect information.
Well we get so distracted we're all EDHD and like look squirrel.
Yeah.
True.
That's what it is.
It is true.
Yes.
All right so we.
Well that's why we need our producer here to keep us on track.
By default they're all 9.0s I guess because that's the default when you know.
Our producer's hanging out with Tomb Raider right now.
Laura Croft.
Well no wonder he doesn't want to be here.
I wouldn't want to be either.
No shit.
Son, we're doing podcast tonight.
Yeah.
I'm hanging out with a hottie.
We already did this.
We did.
Oh my God.
Hold on are you sure?
Positive.
Are you serious?
Why?
You're serious.
You just want to say I'm Sean over and over again.
I don't know.
We're going to have to replay that.
I don't think I did.
I don't think we did.
You don't remember me saying hi Jeff.
Yes.
He goes.
There was a delay.
Actually I remember you.
You were like really delayed.
It was literally 40 seconds ago.
But that's okay.
You were literally going to have to delete all this shit.
That's okay.
It's good stuff.
No it's good stuff.
It just shows we're human.
Hi I'm Paul.
Oh is that what it is?
Yes.
We're human.
He interprets that as human.
We're middle-aged guys that have short-term memory.
Drinking high-proof bourbon.
We haven't even drank it yet.
I've had a sip or two.
I haven't touched it yet.
I've smelled it.
I'm excited.
Is it going to make your body go numb like the cowboy did?
It might.
My legs went to jelly.
Yes.
All right.
So we have some topics like you promised in the second half.
Well I want to get into before we lose track.
Sean had an event happen to him today.
And I want him to discuss this because I think it's for one thing it's frightening that
we someone like us could fall for something like this and Sean almost did.
But how sophisticated it was.
How dangerous these scams really are.
Right, to make it seem like it is real and makes you second guess yourself even when
you know, this may not sound right, but it was so sophisticated it sounded like.
Everything is so real.
Websites that you go to look so real.
I mean who knows if you're really going to Walmart.
Let me dial in a little narrative here.
So we were, so I was working from home.
I get a phone call and it's a private number.
Well I typically answer those.
I answer scam numbers and I answer private numbers because with my job people call me
from those numbers.
Weird numbers.
Yeah and the phone interprets it as that.
So I answer them.
And I had some other guy the other time, he could tell he's the botically speaking.
I'm like what the hell.
You know he's like he's like he introduces himself.
Hey I'm calling from the the the some municipality of some sort.
Some you know he he was a wasn't a lieutenant.
He was a deputy.
He was a deputy and he's calling to to let me know that there's been some citations
issued under my name because I failed to be present at a court hearing.
I was summoned.
Jury summoned.
So I didn't I didn't show up to that or I look first of all I didn't get a I didn't
get a letter or what is that the we signed for it.
Summons.
Certified letter.
So I didn't sign any certified letter.
I didn't get anything that says that I needed to do this.
So you guys go pound sand.
I'm not I'm not jumping on that.
And then they started like detailing extra information that I was like all right well
all right.
So they they started mailing.
They started emailing me.
What's your email address.
We're going to send this right now.
They started sending me stuff that seemed legit.
They were sending me documents like I needed to be there.
This court this judge was there.
The specific judge and you'll Google them and they they seemed up and right.
They like hey look wait and the phone number they were calling from.
I was like look well first of all I called him.
I was like look I am not going to be saying that you got to put yourself in my shoes.
You're calling me from a private number.
I'm not fucking telling you shit.
I said it just like that.
Go fuck yourselves.
You know and then they were like look I'll tell you what.
We'll stay on the line.
We'll transfer this over to and then all of a sudden I get a phone call and the phone
call is legitimately from the McKinney Sheriff's Department.
Oh shit.
All right.
The phone number shows up and it says the label right there.
Bam.
So I Google it really quick.
I look at it well that is officially the Sheriff's Department phone number.
That's odd.
OK.
So I talked to him for a while.
Yeah.
Do you get you.
How serious is this now.
It's like this is not a state summons.
This is a federal government summons that you were you were supposed to attend.
Therefore federal government rules apply and there are penalties that that's like well
put yourself in my shoes.
An hour ago I was fine.
I was an American citizen just hanging out and now all of a sudden I owe you tons of
money for these citations that are because they're federal government.
They want to like twenty five hundred bucks.
It was actually five thousand dollars per citation.
And I was like I'm not paying that.
I mean what the fuck.
How do you expect anyone to pay that.
Where am I supposed to shit that money.
Right.
And they realize you know we don't you know whatever.
That's what's happening.
We can we can go ahead and qualify you for some hardships and push you on a different
program or require some payment.
We'll get you set up through the direct deposit system and damn they were getting all elaborate
and I was like look I think you guys are full of shit.
I don't I don't I don't believe what you're saying and you're none of this is true.
So they are.
Look I'm going to the hammy.
They kept handing me off to people and you hear in the background legitimate police things
chat on the background chatter.
Oh you hear like the radio noise.
Oh you hear like oh yeah.
You know squad number two.
You know they hear legitimate stuff going on in the background and then I'm getting
phone calls nonstop.
Hey well you know what we are different people every single time.
There's a network of people that are all tied together to gather zooming in on you.
Oh dude they were they were off the charts to the point where I actually got up from
my desk at home because I work from home.
I went and took a shower and they were like you got to keep your phone on.
And I was like yeah this is sketchy as fuck.
Yeah I'm keeping my phone on while I take a shower.
You go fuck a pound sand.
So I fucking hung up on him and it.
But at the same time I'm thinking is this legit because they had information about me
and they were continuously sharing more and more.
And I was like this is some crazy stuff.
So I was like well you know what I'm going to go and head down because they gave me an
address to go to which when you look it up and it's the official McKinney Sheriff's Office.
You go down there and it's the Collin County Courthouse and you you you say just go to
the kiosk up there the lady that's at the there and you pay her and you're fine.
They good you just just pay it.
She takes cash just give it to her and you'll you'll pay the citation.
And then once they find out that your your because they say I signed for that certification
letter right.
And they say if we can verify that the signatures don't match that will just refund all that
money.
Oh so you're safe.
Yeah.
Yeah I was like yeah that's not happening.
But at the same time I'm like fuck this seems kind of real.
So I get upstairs take a shower and then I get dressed and I'm like fuck man I've got
like my job you know something like well I have something I had to do this afternoon
so I canceled that.
I was like well you know I need to take care of this.
I need to make sure because I don't need if this is true.
Right.
It needs to be taken care of.
Yeah.
You know because I this needs attention.
They made it sound serious enough.
Oh it was serious.
You got it.
You got a tag team of people that all seem legit even though there's red flags popping
up left and right it was just the volume of people.
Yeah.
That was in communication with me.
When you said they were able to track you through your GPS phone.
Well they said that but I mean.
Well they said that right.
They said that I was like yeah that doesn't seem right either and you're full of shit
again but yet there was just like well let's put you on hold and they transfer me and you
can see it on the phone how it's changing different numbers and it's just like it was
just bizarre.
Sophisticated.
It was bizarre.
It was sophisticated and you know at the same time it's all the same type of voice.
You know different people but the same type and you know they weren't Asian.
You know you could tell you could tell different dialects you know.
And so anyways I get out of the house I'm like you know fuck this.
I'm going to go and I'm going to I'm going to entertain this idea.
I'm going to go get the cash because I want to make sure that if something happens I have
the cash.
Right.
So on the way there I was like for a split second I was like fuck that.
I'm not getting cash.
I went straight to the police department.
You know because they had sent me some documents on the Internet through my email and I printed
them up.
I drove down to the Frisco Police Department.
Good for you.
I was like this is what I got.
A B C and D bam.
And what the fuck's going on with this.
So they were like totally receptive.
Oh they were just like yeah this happens sometimes.
This could be legit.
This may not be legit.
I don't know.
Let's just dive into this.
So the lady was nice.
Her name was Richie or something like that from the shout out to the Frisco Police Department.
Have you just walked right in right up to the counter and said hey man I have a question.
Had the the the the manager the shift whoever's in charge there.
You walk in to the right.
You know she was like I wish more people that have gone through these experiences approached
us rather than to pay these yahoos.
You know because this is what they do.
So they basically they recorded all the information that they had and the email address that they
came from and they're going after them.
I mean they said like we're going to do our own investigation on our side.
But at the same time I'm thinking all right well these yahoos wanted me to pull out.
Let's just say I did go to the bank.
I did pull the money out.
I did drive down to the sheriff's department and they were like well show up with the cash
and just pay at the desk.
Just pay when you and then we're done with this whole thing.
So let me what is their game plan.
What is the in game for them.
Are they going to like when I get there they're going to mug me.
Well and they said stay on the phone with them while you're going over there.
Yeah that was that was the big red.
That was right.
Total creepy.
Yeah I was kind of yeah that's when I kind of knew it.
But at the same time I was like I just need to be sure.
Yeah.
And they're like what are you driving.
Are you two minutes out.
No they didn't say anything like that.
And we'll meet you in the parking lot.
They didn't say that.
I mean we didn't get that far but it's just I felt better after I got to the police station.
Sure.
Look I'm in custody right now.
So if something's happening then fucking just take me right now.
Right.
I don't give a shit.
I would have been able to look to see if there was anything out there with your name on it.
Like a warrant or something.
Yeah right.
Well they were insinuating that there's a difference between state and federal.
This is coming from McKinney.
Yeah well that's true.
You know it wasn't coming from.
Right.
That's Collin County.
It's the mayor of Garland.
You know how many.
Oh scary.
How many people.
Terrified.
I am one to be skeptical.
You guys know I don't believe shit from anybody.
And the fact that it rattled me only it only personifies it just it's like what about my
dad.
That's what I mean.
What about older folks out there.
Elderly people.
You know because I'm not the sharpest knife in the whatever.
I mean I don't I don't consider myself stupid but at the same time I was gullible enough
to at least entertain the idea that I needed to prepare to pay for this.
You were headed to the bank.
Well.
You may not would have given them the money but you were.
I was.
I don't think I was ever going to go to the bank.
My intention was really to go to the police department the whole time.
But at the same time I was thinking should I go to the bank just to get the money out
just in case.
Yeah.
But it doesn't matter at the end of the day it's it's this shit's going on and these guys
need to be euthanized.
No shit.
And they didn't have an Indian dialect.
They they you know it's just.
Straight Midwest American.
Yeah.
They weren't one of these Middle Eastern you know you get these.
Well in Bangladesh or whatever is a big on the phone scabbards usually these guys.
These guys were a bunch of black folk and you could tell the way they sound.
You know they certain black most black folks they have a dialect.
I don't know what the deal is what how it is but you know maybe I'm racist for saying
that fuck off is the short answer on that.
But the reality of is it's true.
You know you could tell most of the time when a black person talks it isn't the vocabulary
well and they can tell when a white purchase that's right.
So again fuck off.
That could be the bourbon I had on the first half.
What's terrifying like you said there's so many old people that fall for that shit and
they lose hundreds of thousands of dollars.
Lots of money like even my father-in-law got wrapped up in one where they they called and
they acted like they were his son and they had been in a wreck.
Oh yeah.
We don't hold that thought.
Yeah so here he gets his phone call of his son that's frantic on the phone like crying
and hardly can talk normally right.
So he's like whoa what's going on what's going on.
He goes I got into a wreck and I hit them and she's pregnant and I don't know if it
blah blah blah and they're telling me that if I don't you know and if I don't give them
money right now you know they're gonna they're gonna do this and do that and all this kind
of shit like that right.
Whatever they said it was something to that effect.
It rattled him so bad that he called me and he's like you know I need to go get money
and they're telling me I don't want to pay them if I'm gonna pay them I'm gonna you know
he had kind of like what you're talking about Sean he was working through the the logistics
of how he could do this.
I said whoa whoa whoa slow down slow down because he was hysterical.
Right.
You know what I mean like you know you know a man way right like an old older man way
and I was like time out what did they tell you and they gave me the name of a law firm.
It was a law firm that was going to sue you know but they'll settle it right now.
Well right.
If you don't you know blah blah blah and I said give me that name and it was a real
name of a lawyer in Dallas or in Austin in Austin and so I called it.
I called the number and I got their their answering service and I said your name is
being thrown around is somebody who would be you know demanding money because of the
blah blah blah blah blah blah blah.
Please give on a weekend.
Please call me back and they did.
I got to get a credit.
They called me back and they said it's a scam.
Don't do it.
And you know and I was like come on that's what I thought.
Thank you very much.
So I told him that I said scam and he's like well I can't get a hold of my son.
I don't know where he is and I he he wasn't going to be reassured until he had him on
the phone.
And so I started working the phones like where could he be right.
And he's always an elusive kid anyway right.
So I called his brother right.
And I said I said do you have any idea where he is.
He goes sit right next to me.
I go what.
And he's like put him on the phone.
He was like you know and I was like OK we found him.
It's all a scam.
Right.
And he was distraught.
I mean a he thought his son was hurt in a wreck going to be sued.
So this is a generated voice.
No no it was he it was like a person acting.
When you start talking like that you can't tell us your son.
Like your son's Bob.
This is Bob and I was driving and they said the car like maybe the Celica.
The Celica is totaled and there's blah blah.
I mean you say enough things.
To make somebody go oh shit it is my I don't know it's not my son.
And then they immediately kind of hung up.
I got to call you back.
And then they make him think and worry and.
Right.
Dude.
Well I know.
He was about to go get the money.
Yeah I know a buddy of mine John.
He was my roommate went to school with him.
This past weekend got a text from a girl that we went to high school with.
I don't think they really knew each other hung out but he got a text saying hey John
I need to borrow two hundred dollars.
For her.
Yeah to John.
Right.
Via text.
And this was late at night like nine thirty ten o'clock at night.
And she's like I need two hundred dollars right now can you Venmo it to me.
I'll pay you back double tomorrow morning.
That right there is a red flag like well why are you doing it now and you can pay me four
hundred in eight hours.
Right.
What happens overnight.
Right.
So they went back and forth went back and forth he was texting her asking all kinds
of questions you know you know send me a boob shot for your money and stuff like this and
you know just kind of screwing weather.
And she kept coming back saying you know I need to share a boob shot.
No she didn't.
Oh.
And.
She FaceTimed him.
So he talked to her on FaceTime.
And he recognized her.
Yeah.
So it was her.
And he's like something still screwy.
He didn't send her the money.
And the next morning she reached out again.
Hey John are you still there.
And just after that he went out to her Facebook page.
And her husband posted.
Let me read it.
Because it's fucked up.
Oh man.
Her husband.
Let me see if I can find it.
It was basically she got hacked.
And it was all A.I. that did it.
He says hey I want to let everyone know that Phyllis has been hacked both messenger and
Facebook do not reply.
There is a car ad out there that supposedly was put up by her selling a car for four thousand
dollars and you know one cash and stuff like that.
Do not reply.
The car showing for sale is not us.
And the video call is not her.
It is A.I.
Damn.
Unbelievable.
So a normal people they are creating A.I. video FaceTime.
So it's not just voice anymore.
You could get a call from your son that looks like him sounds like him and you would never
know.
And you're responding to them.
Yes.
They're answering your questions.
They're talking to you.
Yes.
Because it's A.I.
A.I. can do that.
Yes.
You know the only way to get around this into the future you have to share a secret word
with your family that you do in person.
And you say.
What's our secret word.
Yeah.
Give me the code word for me to know it's you.
Onomatopoeia.
Shit that was what I was going to use.
Fuck.
Damn it.
Why do you do this.
I know.
And I'm serious.
We get I was actually thinking that while you were saying that I'm going to pull my family
together and I'm going to give them the code word.
Right.
That says it is not me.
If I don't say this if you don't ask me and I don't tell you what is our code word then
it's not real.
Yeah.
I mean it's unbelievable.
The video call and she's just some lady and that we went to high school with.
Probably got her picture enough pictures offline or online.
Right.
Pacing something together that the computer to put together that is terrifying.
And it was probably some other lady peeling or person on the other end that was talking
but over over massed her image.
It's fucked up.
Dude.
How do you trust this shit anymore.
You can't.
No you can't.
In fact that's what Elon Musk shared.
He said one of the biggest problems we're going to be having in the next couple of this
decade coming up is a period.
It's like you're not going to know what's right.
You know wrong.
You don't know.
And I think having that code word is is pretty good idea.
Yeah.
I just decided that when you said when you can fake doing an AI face FaceTime conversation
with a person you know.
No way.
That's terrifying.
Unbelievable.
Yeah.
That just happened this past weekend.
There's so many different scams.
I mean Dostin got pulled into one.
We're an old lady.
You know one of those.
Hey you know how are you.
Oh who is this.
And he just went back and forth and she claimed it was an old lady that was lonely and she
would pay him just to talk to him because she's so lonely.
And he's like yeah yeah whatever.
She was like well here here's a here's a check you can deposit it.
And he did.
And he's like dad this lady is saying that she's lonely and I just deposited the check.
I said son here's how the here's how the scam works.
She's going to tell you she needs you know what I know I gave you a thousand but you
know what I really can only give you 700.
Can you give me 300 back.
Right.
In the meantime her check bounces bounces.
So then she takes 300 out of your account.
You never got the thousand to begin with.
Right.
So I mean dude question everything.
If it sounds ridiculous it is.
Anyway all right.
Well there you go.
That's scams of the week.
Well it's it's terrifying.
Well it is.
And it's they're getting so sophisticated with AI and just the amount of information
that's out there they can scrape together like like they had enough information on Sean
to make him question that it was possible.
Even though those red flags were like yeah completely there I was still jaded I was still
blinded and in their in the way they were talking to me it was kind of like look dude
we need to take care of this.
I mean it's just like it was so believable and it wasn't just any one individual.
It was a multitude of people.
It was just the I mean honestly there was like six different people I talked to within
30 minutes.
And they kept passing me off to another one and being hey look we'll put you on hold.
Hey look who are you on hold for.
Oh well oh and who's this.
And they were like oh this is my name and they're oh well yeah we need to you need to
be talking to this person and we'll continue that.
I wonder if you would have said a different name what they would have done.
Who am I talking to again.
If you would have said yeah this is Bill McMurray.
This is Joseph DeLeon Guerrero.
Oh good name.
You know what doesn't help in your situation is you have like eight warrants anyway.
So you're already on edge waiting for that phone call.
You know what there was a time where I did have a speeding ticket that kind of was out
there and I never was sure.
I was like man I don't know I used to drink a lot smoke a lot and was that was that speeding
ticket taken care of.
That's back in the late 80s early 90s you know.
And the McKinney Sheriff's Office is going to call you.
It's turned into a federal crime.
It's serious.
Yeah we're talking Rikers.
Yeah you owe 40 bucks.
You know that Dawson couldn't get his diploma unless he paid his hundred and five dollar
parking ticket.
Unbelievable.
Well motherfucker needs a park ride.
Yes.
You know what.
Those colleges are hardcore about parking.
You want to hear something fucking crazy.
It's a money machine.
When Shelley became a teacher five years ago she had to she had to provide a transcript
from A&M and they wouldn't give it to her.
It was on hold and we were like what the fuck.
Parking ticket from 1992.
You're kidding me.
I'm not kidding.
Were there penalties involved?
And we were like how do you even know.
No penalties.
The original amount it was like 92 bucks but it was like how do you have any evidence that
it's that it was her.
I mean you could just put it on the record.
They sent a document that had not a picture or anything but it said her car and her license
plate and I was like fuck me.
And they were not going to release her transcript.
Well technology goes a long way.
Is that not crazy.
That was before computer internet.
It was literally what 25 years ago.
How many years ago?
92.
That was 32 years ago.
30 over 30 years ago.
So the fact that this technology is out there and the AI and.
It was on microfiche.
They've got the other thing that scares me and there have been several people that brought
this up regarding these drones that will attack people you know and drop bombs on them like
in Ukraine and they've got these that have like a little 5 kilogram amount of C4.
Very small amount and it will facial recognize somebody or anybody.
Faceplant.
And exactly.
It has just enough charge to kill you.
It will attach it to your face and boom it explodes.
Well you know there are the FBI is investigating mysterious drones.
They're the fill in the night sky in New Jersey.
That basically there are a bunch of people complaining about it.
Those large drones have been hovering in formation.
That's kind of like over north.
Northern New Jersey officials said Monday leading to unnerved residents wondering what's
behind these bright unidentified flying objects.
But you guys had mentioned something about them flying over in a ferris Lee over like
bases and military logo.
Yeah military sites.
And today they said there are unknown you know they don't know who's flying them but
flew over Trump's golf course.
So now they had to close airspace and they're getting serious right.
I mean to have you know because these drones like you said can can kill can kill you.
Yeah I think I don't know.
Now that may be something but this New York one or whoever that was that this just could
be could be some company testing you know the drone shows or they could be testing drone
delivery or could just be a group of guys who have drones who are just fucking around
just fucking around or out there you know doing their thing.
Now the base the base thing it could still be just some kid going I want to go see what's
on that base.
Right.
Or is it China.
It could be.
You don't know.
They still need to investigate.
Some of the things about the technology this was this was a guy from the Joe Rogan show
I forget what the gentleman's name is but he was talking about the technology from China
versus the United States.
The United States has not been able to step forward on our drone program because we're
handcuffed.
Because basically anything that our drones could do that is it the FAA FAA kind of like
throttles the back say look you not the military correct but civilian if you have a drone that's
not registered correctly then they could be tagged you know so they like any drone that
they takes off you have there's some continuity satellites there's Wi-Fi you got to be able
to control it right.
So how are you controlling that drone.
Are you controlling it.
Fishing line.
You control it by using tight.
Yeah.
Ultimately it's satellite feed you're not controlling through Wi-Fi you're not controlling
through Bluetooth you're controlling through satellite feed you're controlling it through
cell towers you're controlling it through a network essentially.
So because it's controlled by network it's got parameters so you're only allowed to go
so high you're not allowed to go in certain areas and that's not something that you control
so you can fly that drone say you know what I want to go right into the middle of that
airport but it's got safeguards set up it knows it's got Google Maps built in so it's
like.
Geofencing.
Yeah so it's like runs into that geo fence and bam it can no longer go in there.
Well they are removing those safeguards and that's how they're able to get through there.
I don't know how that works but my point by bringing that up is that the technology in
the United States is so.
Hampered.
It's it's so less superior.
Well I kind of agree that there needs to be a no fly zone I think airports of course I
think that's a good thing to have and also I think there needs to be rules and there
are where if I'm out in my backyard nude sunbathing I don't want my neighbor hovering his thing
over my yard.
I don't he doesn't want to do that.
Well there's a lot of people that do that though.
Yeah.
And that they they get spied on.
I'm not saying I do that but there's a lot of people who spy on their neighbors.
Interesting.
No that's true that we had a neighbor we had a guy two streets down from us.
He had his drone he would fly it all over people's house all the time.
Yeah.
People shoot at him.
All right.
That gets them in trouble right.
I wouldn't want that.
So you can't you can't discharge your weapon in a subdivision like if you even if you're
shooting at a drone you can't.
I got my little air guns down there.
Nice.
Yeah that's crazy because that's true because there are guys that thought they were law
abiding individuals you know a testimony to their their neighborhood influence you know
just being a good Samaritan and all of a sudden you got this this drone that shows up in their
backyard they don't know what the hell that thing's for and it turned out to be a Walmart
delivery thing but the guy takes his gun out says this thing was coming right at me so
I shot it.
You know he gets he gets taken in jail.
Yeah.
I mean we can't be yeah we can't be discharging I mean that bullet goes up it falls down somewhere.
Have you seen the new Amazon drones.
These things are huge terrifying.
There's video on there of them testing this Amazon new Amazon drone and it gets about
it's kind of ridiculous.
It gets maybe 15 feet from the ground and then it just drops a box.
No it's got a lower down in a basket or so.
No it just dropped a box and then as it took off the wind pushed the box against the fence
and it was I was like that's not going to work.
You're only going to be able to deliver very few types of things if this is how you're
actually going to deliver this.
Right.
Is this a video of it?
We had similarly so last week my daughter was at home and she called her boyfriend up
and she was like hey I got a little stomach ache I can use the Pepto Bismol.
He orders through Walmart a bottle of Pepto Bismol and I was in my office and I hear this
drone.
I was like what the fuck man.
What is going on.
That is the loudest drone ever.
At your house?
At my house it goes to the backyard and it drops it two feet from the fire pit we have
back out there.
Right.
It just drops it off.
Like out of the sky just a box of blam.
Little tether comes down.
Okay you said a tether comes down.
Well that's the Walmart one though.
The Amazon one I saw they just dropped it.
This isn't what I saw.
It's not?
No this isn't the video.
It was real short.
That's insane.
It was a short little thing.
I'm with you.
I mean that eliminates lots of things that you can't drop from 15 feet.
That one there the one with the little.
Yeah this.
Look at that.
You see that?
What the fuck?
I don't think it's supposed to drop it like that.
It's a bird.
It's a plane.
It's a humo.
Oh my god.
It's a drone the size of a pterodactyl.
No but seriously the FAA is getting real wide.
That's retarded.
I mean there's no such thing as a drone.
It's a drone the size of a pterodactyl.
No but seriously the FAA is getting real wide.
That's retarded and then it slid against the fence because of the wind from the props.
That's what it looks like.
Oh that's just not practical.
Yeah you're turning us off here.
Yeah that was well you know the idea the concept look I think it's a cool tool to have for
delivering stuff.
I don't care at the end of the day.
I mean I was kind of thinking it's stupid but you know.
There are some old people that need their medicines.
Yeah I mean it does seem efficient because you know I mean it was funny because Madeline
would came to me and she was talking about how the her stomach was upset.
She's like well she just late just texted me they said the the pepto abysmal will be
here in less than a minute and I was like what and then also you hear this fucking drone
come in and drops it.
I'm like what the ever loving fuck is going on.
And you hear this.
Those things are fast too because they've I've seen a few in this neighborhood and they'll
drop their their thing down and then they'll retract their strength and then they go up
and they're just like they're fast.
Supersonic yeah.
Dude that's supersonic.
Supersonic supersonic supersonic.
I don't know.
I mean we're gonna have flying cars in the next 30 years.
Now you can have drones and flying cars.
I don't think so.
Flying everywhere.
I don't think we're gonna have flying cars.
Uber is coming up with a flying car.
Yeah I don't think it's gonna make it.
You know because for two reasons.
Number one it's just not efficient.
You know I think the amount of power it's gonna take.
You're never gonna get a battery powered propelled machine to be able to get up like that.
The batteries are gonna be too heavy.
Don't underestimate the advances in technology especially battery technology.
Not in the next 10, 20, 30 years man.
It's gotta have a different power source than what's going on.
If it's a regular engine I could see that but at the same time you know it just I don't
think that's realistic.
Well I've seen them starting to build cars out of these big drone type things.
Yeah those seem so sketchy.
Where they have like the quad.
Yeah they're just I'm just like if you like run into that or.
Those are the things that you would find in the back of a comic book growing up.
You're like oh I totally want that hovercraft.
I'm telling you it's crazy.
And so when you think of Back to the Future right.
Remember when they they had lanes like in the air.
I mean they told you know how now they can have.
It's like the Jetson.
Right.
It's like Star Wars.
Now they have.
They have drones that sit there and hover stationary in place.
So you totally could have drones that are your streetlights or like your boundaries
of the lanes and your streetlights in the air.
They totally could pull that.
We will never have to worry about that in our lifetime.
We'll be dead.
Well maybe we're going to live for one hundred and seventy years when they.
I read something that they did a study and they said the oldest.
I don't know how they did this.
It has to do with your cell can only divide so many times in a lifetime.
They said if every cell in your body divides to its max you can get to like one hundred
and nineteen or something like that.
Well there are people who actually get.
One hundred and twenty one.
It was is that aging like no a human cannot live past this age.
Again don't underestimate technology.
This is biology not technology.
But biology can be impacted.
Is that like like artificially by concept of you can only fold a piece of paper so many
times ahead.
I don't know.
It has your cell.
How big that piece of paper is.
Your cell can only split so many times.
They said I don't know what the number was 50 times or whatever it was.
I mean already Elon is experimenting with you know technology infused in humans right.
He's putting chips in people's.
How many how many X Y Z I'm just saying you you guys would be amazed at what technology
can do even in the human body when you mingle mingle that kind of shit.
I have no idea how that would work but I'm just saying it'd be a very very long time.
Yes we're talking a hundred years.
Probably more than that where you can affect biology.
But it also has to be a quality of life.
Yeah I wouldn't.
First off I wouldn't want it.
Yeah I wouldn't want to live that long.
But if you will hold on let's say you were at a hundred you were right now a hundred
years old at the current health if you are.
I don't know because right.
My family would probably be dead.
Well no they would.
They would all your kids would be dead.
No no I'm saying if everybody lived like that.
Let's say you're a hundred and twenty years old but you don't think you look like and
feel like I do.
I think that gets problematic population wise.
Oh totally does.
When you start living everyone starts living over a hundred years old.
Yeah we're going to need to have turnover.
Absolutely we're going to put them we're going to feed them.
As rude as that sounds.
How are we going to feed them?
There's already a population decline.
I know.
I know Elon Musk is big on that.
It's not good.
Ours is.
But to contribute to the population decline.
They said it's declining rapidly.
In the U.S.
In the U.S. is bad.
I saw a video growing up in Colorado and it was like a fuck man second third grade something
like that and they showed a population of fleas in a controlled environment and it was
just insects just in there and they were like hey look we're going to give these fleas everything
they need to succeed in life.
We're going to give them food, room, everything they need and they ended up dying.
It just said it.
That kind of like bred me.
That stuck in my mind that no matter what that our population will be dead.
Our population will go.
I think it's just it's just mother nature.
I don't know what the deal is.
Could be excrement poisoning.
I don't know.
You think the human race is going to go extinct?
I do.
I think they will evolve into something else.
Not externally affected.
Not like a super volcano.
That could happen at any time.
I think through the natural process of who we are, our species, I think that we're going
to just pass on.
Look we've already evolved.
We evolved from let's say a couple hundred years ago.
Think about the 1500s, 1600s and how you have you go back over to the Europe and you see
these knights armor for example.
They're all shorter.
They lived, they died younger and they were a lot smaller.
Now we're bigger and we live longer.
Of course a lot of medicine and health and education of course that helps out.
Just sanitary as well.
Yeah.
The whole lifestyles.
That adds to it but it doesn't take away from the fact that our bodies are when you are
used to dying that's it's just a process.
I think that there's another process waiting for us and I think it's not going to be good.
I don't think it's going to be good at all.
I think we're all going to be doomed.
I do man.
I think that's centuries and centuries and centuries, maybe a million years from now
kind of a thing.
It's a long time.
I don't think it's going to be sooner than that.
Because the human body is getting, the human body itself is evolving in a positive direction
not in a negative direction.
I don't think so.
We are more, we're more apt to fight off.
Our immune systems are getting stronger.
This is what, but there's outside influences that are affecting our development and moving
forward through generation through generation because we're poisoning ourselves, we're
poisoning our kids, our kids are poisoning their kids and it all has to do with the diet.
This all goes into the whole program with RFK, the same fucking tune that I've been
banging since we started this podcast.
About Europe eliminating things and we don't.
It's just that we're poisoning ourselves because of money.
Because there are people in the government that are making money to allow these companies
to make a food product to feed us so that save money.
At the end of the day, it's all about money and these pieces of shit motherfuckers, they
need to be shot.
Right.
I mean really, because I mean it's unhealthy.
We're all unhealthy.
Yeah.
Somewhat.
You know, Jeff, you're getting better, way, way better.
But I mean at the end of the day, we're still all unhealthy.
We're eating shit food.
Sodas, you know, bourbons.
Pie.
It's fantastic pie too by the way.
It's really the damn pie that's killing all of us.
Yeah.
But you know what I'm saying?
It's so, part of me, not part of me, all of me is excited about RFK coming in here and
bouncing the fuck out of the, get rid of the CDC or stripping them down, raping them and
finding out who's in charge of what.
You know, and you know, when you, when you got Joe Biden, who's making agreements with
the, the WHO, the World Health Organization, saying that the next pandemic that comes by,
that we are going to be submissive to the World Health Organization's decree.
Bullshit.
Fuck you.
That's not going to happen.
Yeah.
Bullshit.
But I am, you know what, with all these, I know we've talked about all these picks and
all these reformers and all these people that want to go into all these different agencies
and they all have a promise that they're going to gut it and root out the, the, the
wokeness and do we, I really feel like we're in an unprecedented moment in history.
We are.
We're for our government where, you know, where real change can happen.
Now is it going to-
With the vague and Elon with the Doge program, which we talked about last podcast.
We have a president that's committed to making it happen.
It sounds like the Congress is going to kind of go along with it, although I don't trust
any of those motherfuckers.
Yeah, but that's another thing.
We're, people are starting to wake up a little bit.
They're recognizing some of these people.
And like you mentioned, we're getting the, the view is getting a bunch of backlash and
all these MSNBC stock is drumming.
Someone said that less than 65,000 people were watching it in primetime.
36,000.
36,000 viewers in their young segment, 18 to 24.
In primetime.
I mean, those are staggering numbers.
Bad.
Staggeringly bad.
That's not even a thousand per state.
I mean, there are people that have more for their, I mean, their podcast and for their
reviews and like, I mean, that's nothing.
And if you listen to these anchors, they still think that they are the shit.
I know.
Like Joy Reid.
Oh, you should have seen her latest rant.
I, if you see if you can bring it up.
It's so, you got, it's a must watch.
It's so bad.
Is she, well, she goes on these rants.
She's a racist for one.
Oh, total racist.
And she is not a fan of, uh, is that the new one right there?
That's five days ago.
Yeah, that's it.
That's that it sends a message to Republicans.
Yes.
Let's just play this.
It's just, it's disgusting.
The consequences of your votes.
You don't want to be around me because I voted for fascism.
No fair.
I am coughing on you with COVID, but you want me to wear a mask for your safety?
No fair.
My body, my choice.
Well, here's an alternative thought.
Make your own dinner, Maga.
Make your own sandwiches.
Wipe your own tears.
Troll amongst yourselves with Elon and leave us alone.
You got your heart's desire.
The president you dreamed of and worship instead of Jesus.
And this time you didn't even have to storm the Capitol, smash the windows, or try to
kill police officers or issue death threats to poor workers.
See, you did it just by voting this time.
Congrats.
You got your way.
And he even got away with breaking the law.
Yay.
But if you expect the 73 million who voted for the prosecutor, not the felon, and particularly
the 92% of black women who voted for Kamala to give you a cookie for your vote, a trophy,
a hug, a high five, you might be asking too much.
If we want to eat with you, we will.
But if we just want some peace over the holidays and we don't want to put up with your trolling
while we eat our taverki, get over it.
Stop acting like we owe you.
And for God's sakes, stop whining.
It's embarrassing.
She's such a piece of shit.
Our Thanksgiving.
Our choice.
She's so awful.
Just so hateful.
She's very condescending.
And spiteful.
And she just doesn't get it.
No one's...
The jar read, a regular critic of president.
Oh, that went away.
Yeah.
Unbelievable.
She's getting worse.
Yeah.
Well, she's a loser and she knows it.
Well, no one's watching her anymore.
And I'm surprised she still has a job.
I'm amazed.
I am surprised she still has a job.
I am amazed.
Because if there was a, let's say a white guy who said some of the things that she has,
they'd be gone.
Oh yeah.
She has called...
She's calling us whiners.
Did you see that?
No, I know.
Talk about whining the whole time.
Just the look on her face was just like, oh my God.
It's so bad.
She's a bearable.
I mean, even Rachel Maddow is...
I would love to see...
Man, look, here's the thing.
I used to like Rachel Maddow.
I know, right?
When she was a blonde high schooler?
15, 20, 18 years ago.
I never liked her.
No, I liked her.
I thought she was well-spoken.
But you gotta imagine, back then, it wasn't like it is now.
Yeah.
The hate wasn't there.
Yeah, for sure.
I mean, yeah, she was antagonistic and spoke her mind.
But the fact is, it wasn't as a result of hate.
It wasn't a result of bullshit, propaganda, and all this lies and deceit.
Back then it was different.
Now, I group her up with the Morning Joe, and they're just a bunch of ding-dongs too.
Cup of Joe, Morning Joe, what is the wife's name?
Mika.
Mika and Joe.
Mika Brzezinski.
Yeah.
They're married.
They used to be, what's sad is, they used to be friends with Trump before he ran for
office.
Well, they went down to Mar-a-Lago a few weeks ago.
Yeah, I'm talking about-
As I said, Kiss the Ring.
So silly.
So I don't know-
They're getting torn up for that too.
They are, and it's kind of seen as-
Oh, they're just breaking bread, trying to like-
Well, they are.
They're like, they kind of see the writing on the wall, right?
Maybe-
They want to be relevant.
They want people to watch the show.
They want to be relevant and we're going to lose some folks, but we may gain some folks
at the same time.
Look at Fox.
Because people would respect that.
They actually, like the rational people, the ones that are the non-haters, will respect
the fact that they went down to hear his, to talk.
Well, you can't be afraid of the vast minority, the very small group of people that are the
loudest, those vocal.
So it seems like there's a lot of them out there, but they're really not.
They're just the loudest and they bitch the most and the loudest and they threaten the
most.
And those are the ones who are violent.
That's like Whoopi.
Whoopi and the View.
I mean, that is a disgusting show.
It's disgusting.
And you know, we talk about this like a CPAP machine.
It's just, it's on every damn podcast, but it's like, you know, but it's there every
week.
Yeah.
So it's just like, it's difficult when you got Whoopi just saying ugliness and Sunny
is always like for the last couple of weeks, every other show she's having to apologize.
Oh, I know.
And do a legal disclaimer.
Yes.
I was wrong or whatever.
Yeah.
But they're mocking it as they say it.
I know.
And Whoopi's like chiming in and you know, and we, the opinions expressed on this show,
you know, may not be, yeah, but it's true.
In the background, they're like yapping and they're just so bitter that she has to say
it.
Sunny, you have a legal note.
I do have a legal note.
Thank you, Whoopi.
Look at her face.
Matt Gaetz has long denied all allegations, calling the claims quote invented and saying
in a statement to ABC News that this false smear following a three year criminal investigation
should be viewed with great skepticism that DOJ investigation was closed with no charges
being brought.
We'll be right back.
Look how bitter.
We'll be right back.
And they're so angry that they have their legal team made them say this.
I know.
Because they're full of shit, you know, they're it's propaganda and that's just the, that's
just the animal that they are.
And this country deceives the, you know who I see it.
I there, there is a woman on that show that the Hispanic woman.
Oh yes.
She is growing even worse than, than Whoopi.
She's supposed to be the conservative on the show.
She is the huge piece of shit.
Which what's her name?
Which one is that?
I don't watch the show.
All I ever see is clips.
Right.
She's supposed to be the conservative.
Oh, then you're I would recognize her name.
It's her right there.
Anna Navarro.
Oh, that's not the one I'm thinking of.
She's currently on the view.
Yeah.
She's on there.
Okay.
So she, she, I mean, she's a, she's a piece of work.
I mean, she just, she's such a hater.
I mean, I think she was the one that she used to be conservative.
I think that's what there used to be one on there that was conservative.
But when you listen to you're like, yeah, you're not.
It's it's going to be really interesting if they, if they start chopping.
I mean, obviously they're going to start with MSNBC, right?
They're going to start getting rid of those anchors that are making shit tons of money
that do fight.
Do you remember when they were going to hire this RNC, RNC chair or the RNC head?
Yeah.
Whatever her name was.
Yeah.
Yes.
And they all has a massive mutiny.
Yes.
And so can you imagine being the leadership?
I mean, these guys have an ego, right?
The people who run these fucking huge production companies and, and their entire team mutiny
and said, we're not going to have a dissenting view on this, on this.
I'd be like, there's, there's a hundred guys right outdoor that I could hire to replace
your ass.
Yeah.
You're not the only people who know how to do this.
And they caved, they caved to anchors that, that are producing the lowest ratings of any
other of any other channel.
Yeah.
I would have been like, if you want to leave your breach of contract, we don't know you
anything.
Absolutely.
Or you could just suck it up and be a big, big boy or big girl.
It's really encouraging because then you see Bezos was saying what he was saying about
the Washington post and then the LA times, you know, they fired their entire editorial
board people.
I think people who are in positions of influence in terms of the message that they're crafting
and the audience that they're going to cater to are, they're starting to get it.
I hope so.
I think the combination of all this shit that we've been talking about with the Trump's
picks and, and all this reform, you know, we, we could see a very, very interesting
next four years.
Did you see the, uh, there's supposedly some new controversies around PXF, some other
stuff has controversies have popped up today or yesterday.
He's supposed to be a department of defense.
I mean, secretary of defense.
I think it was, uh, in his, I read a little bit of it.
I don't know if it's true or not that, uh, they're now saying that the charities he
ran that he either stole from or completely mismanaged the funds financially, irresponsibly,
and he's a drunk.
He would always get drunk at these charity events.
No.
Well, you know what?
It, it, it, that's a reflection of his true self and true character.
And it's not like a bullshit, uh, Dave Kavanaugh.
Or Kevin, Kevin, what was a very disturbing, he obviously has a chance to defend himself
here, but some of this stuff is, it's going to be difficult.
You know, time will tell.
I like Pete.
I've known him for a very, very long time.
Well, these allegations that have come up just in the last 12 to 14 hours are a surprise
to all of us.
And so yes, he does need to address those because this was not something of which we
were aware, nor was president Trump aware of.
I'm not saying these allegations are true.
I like them a lot.
Senator John Kennedy?
I'm saying it's been my experience that there are two sides to every story.
And I discount substantially allegations from anonymous sources.
If the folks who are making the allegations feel strongly about them, they should come
forward and in front of God and country say, this is what I believe and here's why I believe
it.
This is why we have confirmations, you know, proceedings and everybody will have a chance
to have their day in court.
I love a good redemption story and I hope that's what Pete has.
I hope that for him and for his family and for the country.
And if that's the case, I'm more than happy to not just vote for him, but do everything
I can to help get him across the board.
What are the allegations?
Right now, not concerned about these allegations against Pete Hexham.
Well, as long as they're just allegations and again, that they remain in the past.
He can, I have, he has to convince me of that, but I'm open to being convinced.
So you said mismanagement of some charities and drunken behavior.
Right.
Here it is.
A magazine cited what it calls a detailed seven page whistleblower report compiled by
multiple former CVA employees stating that at one point, Hakes death had to be restrained
while drunk from joining the dancers on the stage of a Louisiana strip.
Wait a second.
We've all done that.
At a strip club.
Come on.
How long ago was that?
Oh, it doesn't say the report says he was married at the time and other members of his
management sexually pursued the organization's female staffers.
The magazine said, Oh, so this is like a me too thing.
Right.
Like a me too movement.
Uh, where he was.
Okay.
Let's see here.
We're going to meet with every center that wants to meet with us across the board and
we, we welcome their advice as we go through the advice and consent process.
Hakes death told reporters as he arrived for the second day of sit downs with Sanders.
All right.
So he's hit, he's meeting it head on.
He's not shy away from it.
This is a, this is a probably a, another wild goo taste.
Like, like judge, uh, like Kavanaugh, you know, it just come on at a frat party 35 years
ago.
I kind of agree with Kennedy.
I'm like these anonymous sources.
If you have proof and you have strong convictions, just come forward and talk about it.
This happens every time somebody comes out of the woodwork.
Even the, the woman that sued Trump in a civil lawsuit and won like what?
$98 million.
Did he ever pay that?
No, but they're still working it out.
But I mean, she, she couldn't even substantiate like key, key details and nobody was a witness
to it.
Well, he didn't get in trouble for that.
He got in trouble for defaming her.
So he said something about her that he got in trouble with.
It wasn't about the sexual assault.
Oh, really?
He got, uh, dinged for, uh, defaming her.
Somebody said,
It's crazy.
Well, yeah.
How many people defamed him?
Oh, I know.
I mean, he could, he could sue the shit out of like, and they called him Hitler.
Can you get worse than that in terms of defaming?
Well, yeah.
I mean, Chinese crypto businessman eats his controversial $6.2 million banana art piece.
I love it.
It's so stupid.
It's so stupid, but it's funny.
He's mocking the stupidness of the whole thing.
Yeah.
Chinese cryptocurrency businessman, Justin Sun, uh, last week purchased a $6.2 million.
It was a fucking banana tape to a wall, right?
Yeah, that's it.
And this is not the first time that the banana has been eaten by the way.
I mean, there, this one artist tapes a banana to the wall and somebody else made a joke
of it and ate the banana and there was, I don't know if there was a lawsuit related
to it, but the whole thing is totally stupid.
So I don't know.
He could do it every once with his money.
Oh yeah.
He made it.
He could spend it.
Oh, he's a billionaire, man.
Have some fun with it.
Shit, man.
That's nothing.
That's stupid.
Let's see if there's a little audience.
He said that's what he was going to do.
He was going to buy the banana and he was going to, and he was going to eat it.
I mean, the guy that the artist is the guy that's laughing all the way, the band.
Yeah, he got paid.
Yeah, he got his $6.2 million.
That's paid 47 cents on a banana and a strip of duct tape.
I'm almost thinking that this is kind of an inside deal.
I mean, he's like, Hey, look, I'm going to do this and we'll see what happens here.
Well, what if I tape an apple to a wall?
Can I, is that going to be a hit or is this, is this one it's forced?
Or your penis.
Oh, he did it for a stunt.
You know what?
They said the word comedian.
I want to, I want to bring up something.
Did you guys know that there was a comedy club right there where it used to be the Martini?
I think it used to be a Martini bar, um, right there in legacy East, not West, but East,
like where the Banny Hannas is down the street down the street from there.
We had no idea there was a comedy club there, but I think I sent it out a text member and
I was like, Hey guys, uh, no, that's Addison.
This is actually, um, this is in Plano.
Yeah, I don't see East legacy East.
Yeah.
It's mic drop comedy Plano.
That's it.
I think anyway, so what's really interesting about this is I had no idea it was even there,
right?
Cause it used to be the blue, blue Martini bar and um, uh, maybe, maybe that's the one.
Anyway, Shelley and I went, I mean, we've never been to a, we've been to improv before,
which is very different obviously than, you know, standup comedians.
Um, and it was,
Well that's standup comedians.
Well, but it's not a, it's not, they, they improv, right?
I mean, there you,
Well the one time I went to the improv, they had a comedian come in and he just did his
skin.
Oh, okay.
All right.
Well, so these were, so what they did was they had six people that were warm up people,
like people trying to make it.
And then they had the headliner, right?
And of the six, three were funny.
Four had a couple of good jokes.
I mean, it makes you realize it's tough.
It's a tough gig.
I mean, if you're good at it, good for you.
I mean, you stand up there and you think that these are good jokes and no one bites at them.
You're just like, wow.
Yeah.
They just kind of look at you and, and you know, so anyway, so it was interesting.
And then the headliner came up and she's somebody that, uh, has been around a while and she
writes Hollywood.
She wrote for shows in Hollywood.
I forgot what her name was.
And she's actually married to,
Rita Rudner?
Rosie O'Donnell?
No, no, you guys probably wouldn't recognize her.
Jay Leno?
She was excellent.
She really was.
And it made the point of my story is that I think, I think I want to keep doing this,
keep going to the comedy shows down and play.
And now there's a pretty high profile comedy one coming to downtown Frisco.
Well, we should go to downtown McKinney, hit the, the, uh, the comedy club, the comedy
arena.
Yeah.
And they're, they have actually some cool things that you could participate in at the
comedy arena in downtown McKinney.
You can go there on like a Thursday night and you can actually participate.
You know, it's kind of like, uh, who, who's line is it anyways?
Kind of thing.
Wait a second.
We've done that.
Yeah, we've done that.
Yeah, we have.
Yeah.
I thought it was brilliant.
I loved it.
Yeah.
It was fun.
Yeah.
That was a long time ago and I don't recall it.
It was a tiny little place.
Yeah.
Well, but it was fun.
Yeah, but it's, it's perfect.
But you know, I've been to several comedy clubs.
They're all fun.
Yeah.
I have a good time.
Frisco, downtown Frisco.
It's open already?
Yeah.
And they have a headliner tonight as a matter of fact, who's actually performing probably
as we speak.
But and she seems to be pretty high profile.
John Candy?
Uh, yes.
No, no, John Jonah, Jonah Candy.
Frisco improv players?
Nope.
That's not it.
It's in downtown Frisco and it's that old movie theater.
It's like behind that, that Mexican, uh, mart where you can get the fajitas.
The uh, Mexican grocery store.
Yes.
It's right behind that.
And it's an old movie theater, I guess from, I don't know, I don't know when, but.
Okay.
So it's not too, it doesn't show up.
That's weird.
Yeah.
I guess it doesn't exist.
It, it does.
Cause they have an event tonight that is a pretty high profile comedian.
The Dobie Shire?
The Territop?
Go to, uh, go do eventbrite.
It'll be on eventbrite.
You know, well, we'll have to investigate.
Did you know that the Sammy Hagar, uh, Van Halen thing is going to be up in windstar?
Ooh, really?
Yeah.
We should go, you should pull that up.
See how much the tickets are.
Cause I know they were in, uh, August and we, we balked at that because it's, you know,
five degrees down there at starplex.
Yeah.
And Sean about had a heart attack and stroke last year.
Um, but I'd go see them up there depending on what the price looks like.
I don't know what it is.
Lucas oil live windstar.
February 21st, 2025.
February, yeah.
46 bucks.
Section 407.
Uh, where's that at?
It's the only way at the top.
That's 400 bucks.
You want the center.
Two hundred.
Yeah.
I'm not paying that much for it.
Bring on our own little bladder.
All right.
What do you guys, so Jeff, when you take it off to Hawaii, we leave for Hawaii.
Um, Thursday, first of all, walk us through the whole program.
So how, how is it that you came about this whole last September of 23?
My wife and her friend, Andrea, they've run 10 marathons together, I think.
Uh, they signed up for the Hawaii marathon and they got in.
So last September we planned this trip to Hawaii for this December.
So I don't know, a year and four months out.
Uh, so it's been paid for for quite a while, which is nice.
We don't have to worry about that outside of food and shenanigans.
We get over there and we're going to get out of that quick.
Oh, yeah, it does.
And we're going, we leave Thursday, uh, like it'll 11 or 10 or something like that in the
morning.
Uh, and she runs her race on Sunday.
We'll be in Honolulu for a couple of days, I guess, four days.
And then right after the race, we're going to hop on a plane and go to Maui.
Uh, and we're going to be in Maui for five days or so.
Yeah.
Those little planes that go back and forth there, they're almost like taxis.
Yeah.
And they're the cheap, cheap flights.
I mean, it's Hawaiian air.
I think we already have the plane tickets that I had zero to do with the planning, which
I kind of enjoyed.
So I don't know what to expect.
I've never been there.
I've only seen what you see on TV and on the internet shit.
So I did ask about the women are going to a lot of LaBear shows.
Yeah.
A lot of, a lot of hula hula.
Um, I did ask, I was like, what would it take to go to see a luau, you know, do the most
touristy thing over there?
You know, yeah, you got to do it.
The thing you get a pig expensive.
Yeah.
I was going to say a pig.
They're fucking expensive, man.
Banana leaves 300 bucks a head to see the dancers and the water, the fire, the fire
guys, eating dudes, 300 bucks a head, 300 bucks a person.
That is, I mean, that is ridiculous.
Yes.
I was like, all right, I don't need this.
And it's only back an hour and a half, two hours.
So I'm just like in a buffet.
So I worked at the, the four seasons resort in Las Colinas before we are back when they
used to have the Byron Nelson out there and all the good golf players were actually alive
and performed well without crashing into ditches and getting beat by golf clubs.
But they, the sports club side, they had a luau, it was actually a pretty kick ass event.
And for the, the, the members there, uh, and you know, you got to see all the traditional
stuff.
You know, they had the pig, they had everything.
It was the fire dancers and everything.
Fire dancers.
They, they spent thousands and thousands and thousands of dollars on this thing and the
members paid because they, they've got to make more money than most people do.
Did they actually bury the pig in a big pit?
They dug a pit.
They put coals in there and had the old banana leaves laid out there.
And I was a food and beverage manager out there.
So you know, I wasn't in charge of course, the cooking or anything, but it was more of
the timing of things.
And I work out to work with the executive chefs.
It was a lot of fun.
Did you get to eat some of the pig?
Uh, yeah, I ate everything.
You know, we get to sample stuff because they make two, three of everything.
I'd like to do that someday.
Roast a big pig like that because those are delicious.
I would love that too.
What, what would that entail?
A pig.
Yeah.
You could buy pigs at H E B as a matter of fact, a whole pig.
Yeah.
Do you, and you, they've already been like, I mean, they're suckling pigs, but yeah, you
could buy a pig.
It's probably, I don't know, three feet long and it's already prepped.
Yeah.
You could buy some at, at a, you can go to a Costco or not Costco, the restaurant Depot,
but it's already prepped, like it's been disemboweled and yeah, they, they basically it's a, it's
just a, it's ready to put on a spit.
Yeah.
Well, you, you basically, I mean, you, if it's a true luau, they don't, they put it in the
ground.
Yeah.
But we wouldn't do that.
If we were to get together and do a pig, how would we do it?
That's what I'm saying.
Why wouldn't you?
I mean, just dig a hole.
Well, you can rent, my uncle did it once and he rented a, a pig roasting thing.
It was above the ground on a big rotisserie.
That's what I think.
That would be more practical.
You can also.
I mean, it's really, we're building, we're digging a hole in our backyard.
Well, I've also seen people build temporary pits out of cinderblocks.
Right.
I've seen people do that as well.
Anyway.
All right.
Well, look, we, we, we sampled this.
I'm surprised the podcast won't come pretty quick though, but so look, uh, while Paul was
out of town, uh, conveniently, uh, you know, Paul was out galavanting, hanging out with
all the, he wasn't a turd, you know.
I was probably at a wedding.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
Look at me.
What's the Royals?
What the hell?
Can Diane, all right.
Look, it was, no, no, no, that is why we'll never do what his face right now.
I'm out.
I'm out on video.
So we, uh, we, we got an invite.
We could Jackie Mack, uh, reached out to us.
It was like, Hey, you guys want to go to iron rose?
They're having their 10th anniversary.
Right?
Right.
So we got, we got, uh, enrolled into their, uh, the lottery program.
We didn't win shit, but you know, it was an opportunity to, uh, to go out there and swing
dicks with the big boys.
And, uh, we ended up buying a bottle hung out with Chuck, Jeff and I just kind of like
chilling and we picked up the bottle of iron root, Ecore, Ecore, Icore.
Icore I think is what it said.
Icore.
This one is hazmat.
It's a 140.2 proof.
Yeah.
And the thing is, uh, it, it, it, you gotta, you can't drink, you can't slam it.
It kicks your dick pretty hard.
This one, we had the cowboy last week.
This one is harder for me to drink than the cowboy was.
Yeah.
And the cowboy was thick like mead.
Let me just say we're at the, we're pretty much at the end of this second podcast and
this is the most I've ever seen in all three of our glasses.
Like we were very, we, we definitely babyed this one.
Yep.
So look, this thing, um, it's got a lot of, uh, it's got a lot of flavor.
Oh, tons.
So this thing right here, it's, it's extremely rich.
So like the nose, it's, it's, it's tons.
I mean, it's thick.
It's a raisins, caramel, maple syrup and alcohol and alcohol.
This fucker is jam packed 140 proof.
I mean, this thing is 140.
Just digest that.
Yeah, well, is this the hottest we've ever had?
No, no.
144 is with a top.
That's the top.
That was excellent too, man.
But that one didn't taste as hot as this one.
This one's hot.
This one's kind of scratchy on the throat for me.
It didn't.
When we had the small sample, it wasn't this caustic as a flavor.
This one, it's, it's not sitting well with me tonight.
It's got that cardboard taste, uh, that I think Jackie Mack kind of referred to.
That was the, the rye that you had.
Oh yeah.
Cardboard.
Is that the double ply?
No, I don't, I don't taste any cardboard.
That's not in my list of things that I smell or taste.
It just, you know, when it's, it gets rolled up on the back of that tongue, you know, it's,
uh, it's the finish.
It's, it's, what is it?
It's the moderate burn.
It's the cocoa.
It's got corn.
It's the corn that's lingers in the background.
Dude, it got a burn.
It is got a burn.
Like I said, the cowboy was 140.1.
This was 140.2.
Cowboy didn't burn like this.
No, it didn't.
No, it just didn't.
And the one thing I, the one note I wrote down here on the nose is I smelled cola, like
coke, like a cola.
Coca-Cola.
Yeah.
Like cocoa, coca?
No, no, cola, like a pop.
I smell that on the nose.
Yeah.
It's a combination of the raisin, I think.
And it's, there's a lot going on.
There's a ton of flavors in there.
That's why, folks, when you are drinking this type of hazmat stuff, you're not going to
slam this.
This is something you sip.
Okay.
And I don't recommend, I mean, look, if you want to drop a couple of drops of distilled
water in there, there's, there's, there are things about, as much as I'd like to complain
about it, there are things that when you add distilled water to it, it does open up extra
flavors.
Like this is jam packed with flavor.
I mean, 140.2 proof.
Yeah.
It's got flavor in there and sometimes you have to release it.
I prefer to release it with my saliva, but you know what?
You want to drop a small cube in there or a couple of drops of distilled water.
I recommend it.
Yeah.
You know, it makes it a little bit more palatable, easier to drink.
Maybe next time we have this, we try it on a cube in a low ball.
I would agree with that.
I think, okay.
I mean, that's definitely an option.
Because here's the, here's why.
Because you made a good point.
I mean, there are people that like hot foods, right?
Spicy foods.
But for the people that don't eat super spicy foods all the time, what do they always say?
I have no idea what it tasted like because the burn overwhelmed everything.
And if you're drinking this and all you're getting is the overwhelming burn, then you're
not enjoying it.
Right?
So put some, put a couple drops of water in there, let it mellow out, try, see where the
taste comes from.
Hell, when I was with my father-in-law just last weekend, he had never had anything over
115 proof.
And he was reacting to this with those.
Meaning I was like, well, what are you getting out of it?
Like what do you?
He was like, I, all I get is burn.
And I'm like, shit man.
Okay.
I get it because it is an acquired taste and this is a conditioning.
Yeah.
Well, part of that conditioning is the people that they're drinking cocktails and that's
the way they're consuming this.
And this is when you, when you drink a whiskey like this, that's not the way you consume
it with this.
The best way, in my opinion, is have a Snifter or a Glen Caron and you take very, very small
tastes and you back it with a little club soda or beer back, whatever.
And you just, you just, this is something you're going to sip for an hour.
Yeah.
You know?
Yeah.
We've been sipping on this for an hour and we all got half of it left.
You could also do a bourbon enema.
Well, we've been talking a lot too.
You sent a thing out today, bourbon enema or coffee enema.
Coffee enema, yes.
Well, I mean, I think also we ate a lot of pie in the halftime.
I think that's kind of...
I ate a lot of pie in the halftime.
I think this is good.
It's not as good as the cowboy.
No.
It's not as good as the cowboy.
By far, like it is, I don't know if I'd use caustic.
It's just a harsher drink than...
I can think of a lot of other options in the one...
What category are we putting it in?
130 to 140?
Well, this is hazmat.
No, I think hazmat's by itself.
Yeah, that's hazmat.
And what proof is that?
130.
140.
140 plus?
Well, shit, that's a very small group that we can compare to.
You know what I mean?
So if we're going to go...
That's elite.
It's by itself.
I'm picking up a lot of raisin, a lot of plum in this.
So it's dark.
It's angry.
You got to thin it out.
I don't want to, but you got to drink it really slow and something you don't rush.
Well, I think there's an experiment next time.
I think we all kind of understood what it is this time.
Maybe on the cube next time, maybe...
It's not going to bring it down to 100 or anything like that.
I don't think I'm going to do a cube.
I think we probably need to invest in...
A couple drops.
It's like a good distiller and one of those little droppers like they have.
We should have one of those up here.
We should.
Yeah, we should.
That'd be a good idea.
Well, let's go ahead and rate this and close out.
I'm going to give this a 7.5.
In the hazmat group.
We gave the cowboy a 9.
Right.
If we gave the cowboy a 9 in this hazmat group, I would give this probably a 6.8.
I'm giving it an 8.
Wide range.
Which is good, I think.
I like the dark plum raisin cocoa flavor.
I really do.
It's something that I think that if you ingest it very, very slowly, it's got a wonderful
taste.
I think that if you take a little bit too much, it ruins the experience.
Yep.
You have to dip your tongue in it.
Yeah.
It's barely...
You're barely taking anything in to get the flavor.
Anyway.
All right.
Do you guys want anything before we sign out?
No, we're good.
No?
Yeah, we're going to be signed out until when?
Taking a week off.
17th.
So we got one more podcast before Christmas.
We're taking off next week and then we're back on the 17th and then yeah.
The one after that is Christmas week.
Second half, Dudes Like Us, December 3rd podcast.
I'm Sean.
I'm Paul.
I'm Jeff.