You hear everything's good?
Headset's work?
All good?
Everything's working.
Everything's fantastic.
And it's a monumental day today.
Got ourselves some brewskis.
I don't hear anything.
God bless it, Archer.
Do we want that door open?
Yeah, no one's here.
Oh, okay.
Actually, I take that back.
He was making dinner for a game and it's all in the closet.
All right.
Well, head to Molly Does That, Dudes Like Us.
Welcome to a November 6th post-election day podcast.
The next day.
We got a special guest again.
I think this is for round number three, right?
Yeah, three or four.
Go for the triquat.
Three, I believe.
Yeah, I think you're right.
What's wrong with you?
Why do you keep coming back?
It's lonely.
It's a lot of fun.
Come on.
It is a lot of fun.
I got to tell you, everyone that's been on this podcast, and you guys know, everyone's
had fun.
This podcast is super, is a hoot to come on.
The experience is great.
The environment, everything around us is quite cool.
Yeah, you get to...
It's eclectic.
You get to bullshit about different things that are going on and it's...
It's right there.
Well, Dudes Like Us, I'm Sean.
I'm Paul.
I am Jeff.
And I am the guest, Larry Kuvion here.
Hello.
There you go.
And we are super...
We're excited.
It's another four years that has passed.
We have another president in office and...
I'll tell you what, this is a completely different feeling than it was in 2020.
The next day I was depressed.
Just like all the libs are depressed today, right?
Right.
Were you screaming it?
No.
No, that's a small percentage that are doing that.
And there's, unfortunately on the lib side, that there's some, I just think, mentally
weak people that do that.
They do it to their phone and then they post it.
And that doesn't make sense to me.
I don't understand that.
I mean, there's banter, but there's a difference between...
There's just some hate out there.
I mean, and it's one thing if it's hate.
It's another thing when it's hate on false premise.
You're not even saying things that are true and you're angry about that.
If you're going to not like somebody, then not like them for the right reasons.
You can't say misogyny.
It's just a whole bunch of things.
It's like, look, none of that's true.
He raped somebody.
It gets ugly.
I'm like, man, that is not true.
Where is it that he says he's raped?
And he's surely not a convicted one.
And granted, and I've said this a hundred times, I'm not a huge fan of the Donald Trump
personality.
I think he's kind of in his own little bubble.
He's a jerk.
Yeah.
He's a nice guy, but he's a nice guy in his own way and on his terms.
But who cares?
When it comes down to it, I've met, I had a lot of bosses in previous jobs and they
were complete pricks, but you know what they did?
They ran a tight ship and they ran a great business and it was successful.
And if people can focus on that, then we shouldn't have any issues.
Just who gives a shit about his tweets?
Oh, they were mean.
Shut up.
I told a number of my liberal friends who were going to vote for Kamala and that was
really just a, it was a not vote for Trump vote, vote for anybody but Trump.
And I would tell them, look, Trump's an a-hole.
I get it.
And it's, it's okay to not like him, but look at his policies.
Yes.
Look at his four year term versus the shit show that we got going on.
Yeah.
Oh shit.
Well, the, the, some of the, but of course it didn't change their mind because the people
were, people are dug in one way or the other.
Some of the fears are, well, they're gonna, he's going to export a lot of my friends because
they came from another country.
You know, they're going to, they're going to, they're going to wipe them off the, the
United States out of the United States.
He's going to say, Oh, well guess what?
You know, my, my buddy that wanted a sex change is no longer, they're going to fund that.
And he's in prison and God bless.
I feel bad for him in prison.
He's he's, he's gay and he's a guy.
He wants to be a female cause he's a female inside and now they're not going to pay for
that.
No, don't go to prison if you're gay and wanted sex change.
It's not safe for you there.
Well, no, you're not going to get it.
Sorry.
It's your punishment.
Yeah.
And also the military is like, you know, how, why would you expect the military to pay for
sex changes?
And these are all things that the administration was the, the Democrats were running on to
support that kind of stuff.
And I don't know, man, I know that some people may need a sex change cause it, it works for
them.
Maybe they're 30 years old or something and their frontal lobe has been developed and they
can make some cognitive choices because you know, I've met some, some pretty dainty, flamy
dudes before.
Like, yeah, you are a chick.
I don't think, I don't think flamey dudes equates to being a girl because there's some
masculine guys.
There are Bruce Jenner who do this, right?
That's true too.
I don't, I don't think, uh, I don't know.
Is he, is he ever come out as gay?
I don't know.
I don't think he's ever, I I've never heard that.
He still has junk too, by the way.
So I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't follow his stuff, but I don't think, I don't think the femininity of a male, I
got a centerfold dictates if he wants to be a woman or not.
Uh, I just think it's a mental, yeah, but it boils down to it.
It's a mental disorder.
Yeah.
Well, I think in terms of this election, I mean, it's not something to run on.
It's clearly this, what's that going to do for me?
Yes.
Clearly this country wasn't resonating with the country and when they were doing the exit
polls and not even the exit polls, they were doing polls about what, what the top issues
are.
Economy, economy, economy, and immigration.
What's James Carville say back in the Clinton's?
It's the economy, stupid.
Right.
So it was the economy and immigration came up one and two, like over and over and over
again and they said nothing about closing the border.
They said nothing about what the policies were for their economic policies, what they
actually were.
She would say, we'll just go to my website, right?
And there's actually nothing on the website.
I'm going to have an opportunity economy.
Right.
But what the fuck does that mean?
But when she was doing her word salads, she would just talk about abortion, abortion,
abortion, women's rights, women's rights, women's rights.
And it was all fear mongering.
It was the Trump's going to take away this.
Trump's going to take away that.
They're still talking about that.
I know.
Where they're going to be locked in cages and they're going to become slaves and lose
all these rights and everything.
I'm just like, oh, you're bought into the fear and the fear mongering that social media
promulgates and the mainstream media, which I don't know if they're mainstream anymore.
I don't know if I'd call them that anymore.
I think they're becoming irrelevant media.
I think they are.
Clearly Bezos got the message, right?
Jeff Bezos, he told the Washington Post that he owns it, right?
He owns it.
And he told them that he is not going to, they're not going to endorse anybody this
and they freaked out about it.
Right.
He's got 250,000 subscriptions, but Bezos came out with a very solid statement.
He said, listen, journalists and journalism and mainstream media is polling worse than
Congress, like in the twenties.
People don't trust it and they don't watch it and they don't believe it.
And we have lost credibility and we need to get back to our roots as journalists.
And we need to report the story and the facts, nothing else.
So from now on, we are not going to endorse a candidate.
And it was a brilliant statement that all of the mainstream media, the heads need to
read.
Yeah, the Washington Post folks have flipped out when they read that.
Totally.
Basically, we're going to have to be held to standards now and we're going to have
to report both sides.
Correct.
Well, I watched, I didn't watch the view, but I watched a meme about the intro of the
view today and they kind of handled it with grace as well.
I watched the first about five minutes of it.
Then I was like, this is disgusting.
Let's turn it off.
Yeah.
I didn't even get past that, but it's just the opening of it.
You had a fat fart and whoopie was there.
What is it?
Joy Behar.
She even was like, well, this is a democracy.
Every time I hear that, I'm kind of like, you realize we're a republic, right?
It drives me crazy when they say that.
We're not a democracy.
We are a republic.
You're not a threat to democracy.
You're a threat to the republic.
What are the ratings for that show?
I have never turned on the view.
I don't know anybody that watches the view, but I always seem to know what's going on
on the view because of what they play clips of it on the news.
I hear people talking about it.
I want to hear what Joy Behar said.
For its audience, which is middle-aged women, probably stay-at-home moms and that kind of
thing, it is a massive.
What time does it come on?
10 a.m.
Well, it started in 1997.
Barbara Walters used to be on it.
They used to be semi-respectable.
Yeah.
Yes.
And then it's, I think when, who's the big fat one that used to be on there?
Rosie O'Donnell used to be on there.
That's when it kind of started going a little sideways on it, I think.
A little hot opinion.
Yeah, the hot opinion because she's a hot opinion on herself.
But have you seen some of her clips recently?
No.
About after the election?
No, well, it was before the election.
I don't know what she's saying now.
Well, let's go back to Larry.
The rating is currently, the average is 2.5 according to IMDB.
That's a review.
Oh, reviews.
God damn it, Archer.
It's obviously highly, it draws in a lot of viewers.
It makes money is what it does.
Yes, clearly.
Clearly.
And it's catering and their opinions are obviously catering to their audience because
they're not, I mean, they do have like the one person that's supposed to be.
She's not.
Well, and it used to be Hasselbeck, right?
Elizabeth Hasselbeck.
And you know, she, you know, she kind of fought them and then they're supposed to be one
now but I don't think she's very strong.
No, she's not.
Then you had the McCain girl on there and she basically fought it for a while and she's
like, yeah, screw this.
I'm out.
Yeah, John McCain's daughter.
Yeah.
And she, she fell.
Well, okay.
So as of October 15, 2020, the view had the following ratings, total view, 2.5 million.
Yeah.
Up 6%.
It's a big draw.
So clearly it's working for that station, right?
Back to the election yesterday, by the way, Trump won case.
Did you hear the news?
Yeah.
Whoa.
Huge.
Donald Trump won.
Yeah.
Huge.
And then I realized yesterday in like in the day, right?
And yesterday afternoon, were you like me?
I was, I was like a nervous mess.
Oh yeah.
No, I stayed away from news until about eight o'clock and then I turned it on.
I think my wife is like, let's look at it real quick.
And I put it on and I was like, all right, the shit's just starting to come in.
Oh yeah.
I wasn't watching the news because there was nothing for them to report.
Right.
Correct.
I mean, there was a whole circle of votes that had been come in and counted, but no,
I mean, my anxiety, I guess, was for what was coming later in the evening.
Well, the votes did start.
It was sending me text messages.
I did.
I was texting John.
I said, I'm like really nervous about this.
I wasn't, I wasn't super nervous, but I did think there was a good chance that he wasn't
going to win because the Democrats were going to pull some shenanigans again.
Right.
I 100% thought that.
I did too.
But I mean, look, I don't still trust them.
I know Donald Trump won, but I'm thinking, I think they just held out.
I know they probably had opportunity to do things.
And well, I think that she was losing so badly.
Yeah.
They just let it go.
It was, well, they found it was too big to rig.
They found over a hundred thousand votes in Michigan that they didn't allow because they
were duplicates.
Right.
Same handwriting, same whatever.
Right.
So, I mean, it's, it's, it's happening.
Well, also, uh, Laura Trump was spearheading all of the lawsuits and watchdog to make sure
it was above board this time.
Yep.
She was doing like hardcore every state.
They were making sure that everything was above board and the opportunity may not have
been there like it was last time.
They w they, they watched it carefully.
Yeah.
They did a much better job this time.
How was y'all's voting experience?
The wife and I voted a week ago, Monday.
Well, Jeff almost got thrown in jail.
Yeah, I got yelled at.
Before, uh, cause early, early voting here in Texas.
So the wife and I go to the Heraldton library to vote.
There was like in the middle of the day on a Monday, there was no line.
Yeah, perfect.
It was in and out.
Oh yeah.
And there happened to be a guy who was working as a, like a clerk or a helper with the election
thing guy that I know.
So I stopped and I chatted with him and I asked him if he had ever done this clerking
thing before.
He goes, Oh yeah.
I did the last presidential thing, uh, four years ago.
So I asked him, have you noticed any difference between this cycle and four years ago?
Oh man.
Yeah.
He goes, there's a lot, there's a lot more people.
And he said, also there's a lot more, uh, like old people and disabled people.
He goes, man, I don't know how many like old Vietnam vets I've seen 400 pounds with their
knees are shot, but they're waddling up here, man.
They're, they're here to, they're here to cast their vote.
Absolutely.
They want to be heard and I'm glad I'm excited about it.
You know, that was, that's my only thing is why did you almost get thrown in jail?
What's your, I didn't get thrown in jail.
Well, no, no, they were, they were like about to take the gun out.
Yeah.
Did you get a sir?
Sir, can you put your phone away, sir?
Sir.
They were sir.
Put your pants back on.
Don't tease me, bro.
Did you get a sex change operation when you were in jail?
Yeah, I had them pay for it.
That was my motivation.
Nice.
Um, no.
So we went in there, it was me, Sean, me, Sean, and my son, Steven.
You met him out there.
Uh, and we went up to our polling station.
I went in there and again, I don't trust them.
So I was stupid and I took a picture.
You know what?
I don't think you're stupid.
I think you're, you were ignorant about the moment.
Well, then I took a pic.
I was thinking, I don't trust this.
So I took a picture of my ballot after it printed out and the lady is like, Oh, you
can't do that.
That's illegal.
And she said it very loud.
She didn't know and everybody called him out and looked at you.
And I stopped and I stared at her and she's about this.
She's small like Yoda.
She looked like Ruth Westheimer and she was staring at me and I was staring at her and
I was thinking, is this worth it?
You're like, I was like, is what you're taking her down?
Like, what do you mean?
Is it worth it?
No, it's like answer.
It's not.
Do I fight through this or I just cause I know it's illegal.
I want to scissor you.
And uh, you know, it says no, no, no.
There's no phones in there and everything that you have no idea.
So I just pulled it up and I showed her.
I was like, I deleted it and she's like, thank you.
And then I scanned it and went on my way.
Then you immediately pulled it out of your phone trash.
That's crazy.
So I'll tell you how to do this.
No, why not?
All those voters out there while you're at the scanning booth, that's the part that I
was never smart about it.
When it prints out, you just kind of stay in there.
You put the little sheet on your little booth and you get your phone out and why what's
the big deal?
I mean, obviously it's not a good idea to have phones in general, but I don't know.
Why is it illegal to take a picture of your own ballot?
I don't think it's illegal to take a picture of your own ballot.
I think it's illegal.
It's illegal for you to take your phone out, take pictures of the process that's going
on in there.
That's what maybe it's just having your phone out.
Yeah.
You're not because there's signs everywhere.
It says no cell phones.
Right.
What did your ballot look like?
Mine was like a long skinny sheet of paper with a little corner.
Yeah.
I was holding on more like dog ear corner.
That's what you were doing.
You were holding on.
As I was walking to the thing.
Oh no.
So I wasn't very smart about it.
But I wasn't thinking it was a last minute thing.
I was like, I don't trust this process.
I don't remember that mine had anything printed out on it that was even readable.
Yeah.
It has all the names.
Barcodes and stuff.
Yeah.
Well, you got to look to the left.
There was a name on every single bar.
There's barcode.
Well, Jeff's going to pull it out.
Yeah.
So, I mean, I voted, our whole family went together and I told them all, listen, when
it spits out, when you vote and it spits out the piece of paper, you need to go over it
and make sure that it has what you voted for on the sheet, on the ballot itself before
you walk over and put it in the machine.
You know what I mean?
Like, no, no, no.
You've already voted.
You're walking the thing over to like where they, I guess where they count it before you
walk over there, make sure it's right.
When did Texas do away with the ability for straight ticket?
Several elections ago now.
I don't remember the exact year, but it hasn't been there for quite a while.
It's the third year.
Yeah.
Three years.
This is the third year.
Third election.
Yeah.
But it was, I mean, I'm really, I'm really surprised that not everybody does the early
voting because I have voted multiple times on election day and it's a beat down.
Yeah.
It's a total beat down.
I did it a couple of times when I was working, I was driving and I didn't have time to do
it during the day.
Right.
I didn't know your job is supposed to let you go to do it.
Sure.
But ever since I had the ability and I was like, I didn't give a shit anymore.
I was just like, I'm going to vote.
So I'd go vote.
Yeah, nice.
And come up and do it.
I was like, I'm leaving early.
I'm going to go vote.
I'm going to guess that you guys are in favor of early voting.
Oh, big time.
Yeah, I am too.
But the proponents of it are, well, you know, that's kind of a problem because if you vote
for candidate A on Monday and then on Wednesday it comes out that candidate A is a drunken
pedophile.
Oh, right.
You can't do it.
You can't take your vote back.
Yeah.
Well, yeah.
How often does that happen?
Yeah.
At least one out of 10.
But I understand what you're saying.
If it's so early that you find out something, there's an October surprise.
Yeah, yeah.
You know, that kind of thing.
But yeah, I'm not worried about that.
But it's a good point.
Or if your candidate dies, like if Trump died.
Oh, God.
Then what do you do?
What happened?
What would have happened?
Well, if he died, obviously the vote is null and void.
They're going to have to throw someone else in there.
They would have to start over.
I don't know what they would do.
I think they would take whatever vote you had and probably apply it towards whatever
party they were involved in.
I don't know.
I don't know what the.
Thank God we didn't have to go through that scenario because it was awfully close.
People that voted for Biden were dead.
So what difference does it make?
Yeah, no kidding.
Right.
I think it was as close as what people are kind of saying it was because he he made up
some significant ground in a lot of these.
You talk about Biden?
No, not Trump.
Oh, he last night.
And he made up some significant ground in like dark blue counties like Philadelphia.
He was up, I think, five points from what he got last time.
He.
I was looking at it last night, I mean, he was up two to five points everywhere.
Yeah.
Like every swing state.
CNN pulled up on their big map and they one of the selections they had, they hit a button
that said where in the United States in what county is Kamala over exceeding where she
should be in?
Right.
There's nowhere zero.
I mean, and we and other.
There's a lot of reasons for that.
But I mean, bottom line is this was really not close.
It was not.
It was not close.
It was really an electoral landslide.
Yes.
But five million votes more for Trump on the on the on the national vote on the public.
No considering what you got, I was still shocked.
It was still that close.
I mean, she I'm not my opinion.
I'm not.
She is so far fetched that I don't even know how in good conscience you can you can.
Well, they think about Trump that way.
Right.
Exactly.
But that's different than they're not.
They're not.
They're not sure.
No, it's the same.
They're not but sure because they're not looking at the policies they're looking at.
They're doing it from an emotional standpoint.
I don't think all of our I don't think all of them are.
Well, I mean, if they're looking at if they're looking at Trump based on emotion, how else
are they because they don't like them?
If they don't like them, it's based on a.
I think I think you have Democrats out there who like those policies just like we like
Trump's policies.
I've I know some Democrats who want specific Democrat policy, but they're not voting for
Trump because he's a jerk.
They've always voted Democrat.
So they're just voting Democrat to vote Democrat because their policies.
Yeah, but our interests.
We were talking about earlier.
It Harris didn't really cover policies all that well.
We're we're conservative.
Yes, they are liberal.
So they vote that way.
Those are their beliefs.
Just like you have your beliefs.
They have their beliefs.
So I'm not saying their beliefs are wrong.
I am.
Well, they're saying our beliefs are wrong.
Correct.
That's what I'm saying.
So what makes us more correct than them?
Because it's wrong to mutilate little kids for sex changes.
It's wrong.
I don't think the majority of people are saying it's still on their ticket.
So that's not why.
It's either one or all.
That's so you know, either vote from one side or you vote for the other.
That's kind of the thing.
When you outweigh it, I'm like, well, you know, the Republicans have a better, better
end of it.
Everything on the Democrat side right now.
I mean, yeah, everyone wants if I lose my job, I'm going to want to be assisted with
social help.
You know, I want social assistance to help me get paid because I don't have a job.
Or if I lose my house, you know, something emergency happens.
You need these things set up.
That's why we have government funded things.
They've just taken it way too far.
Right.
Way too far.
And that's that's the point.
I understand.
I understand your point, Jeff.
I mean, everybody says I'm going to vote for the guy that does the right thing.
Right.
Well, define right.
What's the right thing?
Right.
I mean, we've talked about this before.
I know the wrong part of this.
A big part of it is what you consider the role of the federal government.
Right.
Conservatives think that the federal government should be very, very small and push all that
power and decision making to the states.
Right.
Defend the shores.
Yes.
Pave the streets and leave me alone.
And if you look at the Constitution, it's very clearly enumerated powers to this to
the small federal government.
But they've blown way past that in the last hundred years.
Right.
And so now the liberals believe, well, we want a big, strong central government and
they should solve every problem that we have.
Right.
And they don't really understand the 50 government, 50 states, 50 governments that are spread
throughout the country.
They don't they don't really subscribe to that.
No, it doesn't make it right or wrong.
That's just their belief on what they think the federal government's role should be.
On the Democrat side, you also have your socialists and your communists.
Yes, going hardcore.
Which is a completely different belief system.
Yes.
But they're going to vote Democrat because that's closer to what they believe the Republican
is.
Oh, absolutely.
You're not going to always align a hundred percent like you were talking about, mutilating
kids.
Like you said, Jeff, there's a ton of Democrats that don't believe with that.
But you have to, you know, you've got to take the good with the bad and you've got to align
yourself with the party that has the platform that aligns closest to what you believe.
Otherwise, what are you going to do?
You can't.
There is no party that has everything you believe in except for the transgender thing.
Correct.
I think I think what this what this vote's going to do is it's going to force the left
to pull themselves out of the gutter.
Correct.
And move closer to the center.
If they if they understand if they if they have the self-awareness, correct, the self-awareness
and the the the ability to do it, the strength to do it or courage, are they just the courage
to do it or are they just going to the tenacity fall back?
The bulls.
Yeah.
What I think is going to happen is they're going to start and they've already started
today.
So on these news programs started already.
Prosecuting or persecuting Trump on what he may do.
Right.
He said he was going to do this.
You voted for him.
It's going to happen.
There's going to be internment camps.
I didn't see that.
He's going to have no they're talking about today.
They're like there's going to be internment camps.
They're going to be mass deportations.
This morning at two a.m.
I was watching it MSNBC when when they called Georgia and they go actually after they called
Pennsylvania and that's when they were they realized if they said if that's right, this
is really over and they were digesting it in the moment.
And Rachel Maddow went on went on a rant and she goes and she goes, you people, you know,
for those of you who voted for Trump, he's been saying all along what he's going to do.
And you just you just voted for him.
And you know, you're going to reap the consequences of your vote.
And I was like, here we go.
You're having this emotional and I had a I had a buddy of mine I play video games with.
And you know, I'm talking to him this morning and he's not a Trump supporter.
He's definitely not a Kamala supporters.
He's in the middle.
He and he's he leans more on the Democrat side of anything.
He says, yeah, you know what?
I didn't vote.
I won't say we vote.
But he said that it doesn't matter because they did the day the stocks went up, you know,
over 500 points.
Yeah.
It's like I made it.
I made one hundred fifteen thousand dollars this morning.
That's you know, so that our man.
And by the way, that only happens if Trump wins this election.
Correct.
If Harris had won, it would have plummeted.
And the futures with the future.
Steven looked at the futures yesterday as they're still telling.
He's like, holy shit.
Yeah.
When when they called Pennsylvania, suddenly the futures.
No, it was well before that.
Oh, yeah.
What could probably Georgia.
So I think I think the wealthy and the people in the know knew what was going to happen.
Oh, yeah.
So that's why I'm driving that.
That's that's another thing that they don't look is ignorance.
I mean, is it ignorance that they don't understand the economics of it?
Like like James Carlville says, you know, that's a tough one.
Well, I think what he's saying is you need to talk about the economy.
They didn't talk about the economy once.
You just said, I'm going to have an opportunity economy.
Right.
And then we have everybody twenty thousand dollars for a new house.
And let's say that's not even for everybody.
Let's say certain people can forgive your college tuition.
Yeah.
So leading the lead up to this election, everybody was in two camps pretty firmly there.
I know there was a group of independents and centrist that were on the fence, but it was
a small group, in my opinion.
You were already all blue or all red, all Harris or all Trump.
And when you're hearing Harris say, you know, we're going to we're going to have the
by dynamics and we're not.
She didn't go that way because by dynamics was bad.
But she was saying she was convincing them that we're going to have an economy that's
good for you.
Opportunity community economy.
So you're obviously going to go, well, they're going to make it good for me.
Like they don't know really what that means.
They don't really understand the economy.
They don't understand the markets and how the capital gains taxes can affect this and
that and and the taxes affects this and that.
They just know that what they're being told is that they're going to have a good economy
for me.
And that's my party.
I'm blue and I'm going to vote for that.
Isn't it ironic that Ted Cruz's Democratic opponent, his last name is all red?
Yeah, that's everything about that.
He got the shit beat up to me.
I really did.
Ten points.
I was I was relieved because remember that ball football player.
Yeah.
Yes.
And the score against Cruz was damn close.
I was narrow.
That was.
And I was thinking the next one, maybe when he gets beat, he better sack those Dominion
machines.
And they spent a shit ton of money on Colin Hall right here in Texas.
Oh, my God.
There was like three commercials back to back every five minutes.
So many mailings, all the always on the radio, on the TV.
I'm a doctor and I want my kids to be able to get abortions.
And you can't get that with Ted Cruz.
That's why I think he's a bad person.
What Ted Cruz has nothing to do with that.
It's all to stay on.
He was making a joke.
I know.
But that's what that's what they're saying.
That's what they're saying.
Don't vote for Ted Cruz.
Ted Cruz doesn't have anything to do with that.
It's at the state level now.
Well, make no mistake about it.
Ted Cruz, in my opinion, he's an a-hole.
OK, I mean, he's a jackass.
He's kind of an arrogant, arrogant, but he does his job as a as a state senator and he
brings home the bacon to the state of Texas.
And he is a staunch conservative.
There are.
Yeah.
I mean, and he will not compromise his ideals.
He is an excellent nominee for Supreme Court.
Yeah, he would be.
Well, I know.
Speaking of Supreme Court, they're already starting to bitch that now that Trump's going
to be in there, that we control the Senate, that Thomas and Alito are going to retire
now and they're going to put up, you know, 40 year old.
Oh, yeah.
Supreme Court justice up there.
They're like, I'll never have a moderate or a liberal court in my entire life now.
Right.
Yeah.
You know, that's just the luck of the draw.
But we're not going to pad the Supreme Court.
We could do that.
The blue was threatening to do that.
Oh, yeah.
Add another three or four people.
Yeah, they're going to add.
Yeah, they add four people and lifetime appointments.
They would it would be their Supreme Court forever.
Correct.
And we're not going to do that, are we?
So if you're Donald Trump and you become the president in January, whatever the date is,
do you pardon yourself?
I don't think he's able to.
He won't need to anyway.
Yeah, I think that he can.
No, he won't need to.
They're going to stop.
I don't know if they're going to get rid of it entirely, but they're going to pause all
of that.
All the lawfare, right?
All those legal challenges and lawsuits.
The one guy, he's not even have a job by the time he's president.
If you're Joe Biden, do you pardon Hunter before you exit?
He said he wouldn't do that.
I would if I was him.
I think he will.
You know what?
If I was Joe Biden, if I at this point, because he says I don't know if he already did it,
but he's going to come out and do a national statement.
I'd come out and I'd say you guys fucked it up.
You booted me off.
This is all on you guys because they're blaming Biden at this point.
I know it's crazy.
And what the fuck are they going to do to him?
He's out.
He's done.
He's 83 or two years old.
What does that mean?
You can pardon whoever you want to.
There's no political backlash.
He's done.
What I mean is when he comes out and does his national statement to the nation on TV
saying, you know, the president Trump won, I think you should go out there and say, you
guys push me out and call their ass out on that and just pull them all out and say, you
guys screwed this up and I could have beat him.
I beat him before you were threatening the 25th amendment on me.
And this is what you get.
They've got to be bitter.
Stuck it.
His whole Biden administration and all the campaign people and the family, they must
be so bitter.
The donors, all the money.
Yeah.
The fact that they tarnished his legacy, right?
He's a lifetime, lifetime legacy in public office.
Right?
Yeah.
But not good.
My shit.
He said, I get it.
He absolutely 100% lied in his speech.
I know that he said multiple things that that snopes or left sided.
I totally agree.
But he got, he got totally undercut by his own party.
It was a coup, dude.
Oh, totally.
It was a hundred percent a coup and they brought somebody without a primary, brought somebody
into the presidential race with no votes.
I think the better classy move would be for Joe to pardon Trump before he leaves the office,
before Joe leaves office and to pardon Hunter.
I actually think Trump should pardon Biden, to Trump.
Pardon Trump.
Trump should, should pardon Hunter.
Hunter.
That's what I think should happen.
That would be a classy move.
It would be a very classy move.
But I think Joe would save a whole lot of face if he, if he pardoned Trump and while
he's at it, ah, here's another paper.
Whose name is this?
Hunter.
What am I citing here?
It would kind of take off some of the blowback on pardoning his son if he included Trump
in that action.
Yeah, maybe.
That's what I think.
Right.
You know, it's all about reconciling as a country, right?
I mean, we got to move forward from all this kind of this crazy bullshit.
Well, you know, nothing changed today.
Nothing's going to change in six months or a year.
Hopefully all our wallets change.
Right.
But, you know, it's not like that's like I sent you a video today where some lady was
like, I'm going to wake up a slave tomorrow.
You watch that?
No, no.
Yeah.
Black lady.
She was crying.
She's like, oh my God, he just won.
This was late at night.
She, she's like, I'm going to wake up a slave.
The fear mongering was unbelievable.
That needs to be illegal.
I mean, nobody got time for that.
No shit.
I thought it was a barbecue.
That's a, that was a good one.
Oh, great.
Sweet.
What's her name?
Sweet Georgia Brown or something like that.
I got a text.
I got a text from a liberal friend of mine that lives in Austin.
Go figure.
Yeah.
Late last night, he goes, well, it's over.
And his text, he says to me, well, it's over.
Welcome to the shit show America.
And I thought I didn't respond to him because I didn't want to start open up that can of
worms.
Yeah.
I thought to myself, dude, the shit show has been going on for four years.
Haven't you been watching it?
Absolutely.
That's where we need the little sound bites, you know?
Yes.
Oh yeah.
But sure.
I ain't got no time for that.
Ain't no time for that.
I got bronchitis.
And then of the elections, we had a local election specifically for Frisco ISD.
Boom, boom, boom, boom.
And they all failed.
They all went down in flames.
And I think the reason for that, it was too big for one thing.
It was $1.8 billion.
It was too big.
And some of this, I mean, I agreed with some of it, like the teacher raises and stuff like
that.
Lots of pork.
And I even agreed with the technology and that was $88 million.
Yeah, but the big one was a billion dollars.
The billion dollars to fix up what I consider fairly new schools.
They consider 20 year old schools old and decrepit, I guess.
You know what's funny?
Shelly and I went to Eastern Oklahoma.
We were driving around all these small little towns and we were passing these schools.
And you talk about dilapidated.
I know.
I was like, bitch, please.
You want a billion dollars?
If you compare Frisco schools against what we were driving through in those little towns,
I was like, dude, come on.
I'm comparing it to what I went to school in.
Right.
And I was like, my school was old, run down.
I didn't know any different.
Right.
It leaked.
I sat there and I didn't have air conditioning.
And it was built on a radioactive race dump.
Yeah, we didn't have air conditioning.
We didn't have heat.
We just had windows we could open.
Right.
Potentially get a breeze in there.
And we were glad to have it.
Yeah, that's right.
And we walked the school in snow uphill both ways, which in fact, I actually did.
But that's not possible.
Well, he had a house on both sides.
He went over the boys didn't believe me either.
And I showed them the route.
They're like, yeah, you sure fucking did.
Oh, so you did.
But why didn't you go the route that you went in to school?
It would have been downhill.
Well, no, I started up here.
Then I went all the way down.
Then I went up again to get to school.
So I went down into a valley.
Did you bring your sled?
No, no sled.
You know, the school bus.
The fogging.
The school bus is now air.
Yeah, ours was not either.
But anyway, a billion dollars to fix up.
And again, what I consider now, staling was a thing of its own.
That should have been by itself.
Yes.
Hundred twenty million dollars.
Whatever they need to fix that.
Or no, no, no.
In my opinion, tear it down, right?
I mean, in my opinion, they should just tear it down and move those kids.
No, I think that's what it was for.
I think that's why they wanted to rehab that.
Oh, I thought I thought they would try to.
And then they found out that they needed to tear the whole thing completely down and rebuild.
Well, they passed a they passed a bond a few years ago for 30 million dollars to fix it
up.
But then they got in there and looked at all the piping and wiring.
They're like, yeah, 30,000 or 30 million is not going to be enough.
So they sat on that and put it on this.
He said we need, you know, they put it into that billion dollar pork thing and they were
going to build a new one.
In my opinion, we have how many middle schools?
Forty middle schools, a bunch.
There's going to be a close one to those kids there.
Just just send them to those other school.
Yeah, I think part of the problem is I think people think right or wrong.
They think Frisco is like not a city, right?
They think it's a big town.
No, it's it's almost 300,000.
I agree.
But I think in people's minds, they live in Frisco or they live in Allen or they live
in they're not in Dallas.
They're not in Fort Worth, right?
They're in Frisco, which is they they probably think it's smaller.
So they see a billion dollar number and they're like, what do we need that much for?
But the reality is, like you said, it's a three hundred thousand dollar small city,
which like in Indiana or, you know, a smaller state is a is a major city.
Right.
So it's probably not that much money when you consider when you consider how much actually
goes into it.
But I think they did a very poor job explaining what they're going to spend it on and the
justification for it.
So my problem was I don't consider these schools old at all.
Right.
Yeah, I agree with you.
There's that.
And then there's also the fact that how many years is a kid going to go to that school?
So I mean, elementary, you're there for what, six years?
Yeah, about seven years.
I mean, elementary kindergarten through five.
Yeah.
So that's five years.
So you have five years that you're going to have a community be able to send kids there.
I mean, after that five years, they're done.
Yeah.
You ready for a beer, Mr. Larry?
Yes, please.
He was massaging an empty koozie.
And I was like, is that a sign?
If it only had a beer.
Yes.
I want a beer.
But it's like, you know, but my point is, is that, you know, once that five years or
six years passes, you know, you're done.
So I mean, it's a population thing, but I don't think that you need to keep building
more and more.
The only reason you need to build more and more schools is when the footprint of the
city is starting to still expand.
And then it's obvious you need to put a school there because it warrants it.
Right.
Like a new school.
Yeah.
But I don't, you don't need to, I mean, whatever.
I just disagree.
A hundred percent of that.
And I am disappointed that the teachers didn't get their raise.
And I won't tell you that they should.
And this is the part that bugs me.
I wish that they, they would have a list and they would, they wouldn't like bundle everything
up.
You know, I wouldn't, I wish they would like have a specific list.
This is what we're going to do.
You know, and then that way you could cherry pick anything you want.
Right.
And then guarantee it.
When it comes down there and you want to give teachers a raise, everyone would have hit,
accept on there.
Yeah.
If you, yeah, if you had separated out raises for teachers in its own, like E.
When you bundle it up and you slap a hundred million dollar figure on there, you're like,
ah, leave.
And I don't know about that.
You know, 88 million for this.
Big, big mistake.
Well, to wrap that up, the last one, which was prop D, I think, failed like 70 plus percent.
It was a high failure rate.
Oh, that was the tennis, the tennis facility.
It was a, it was a catastrophic failure in terms of hugely against that.
Me too.
Yeah.
Well, they should have like put pickleball in there or something.
That's a professional.
Well, that's why, that's why all these, that's, that's why they want all that.
That's why they wanted that because all the pickleballers are taking up all the other
tennis courts around.
Oh, there's a massive tennis versus pickleball.
Yes.
Hold on.
So they, I thought pickleball had a smaller footprint or it's the same size.
Uh, they're using tennis courts.
That's what I know.
There was a massive, there was a massive kind of, you know, two camps, the pickle, the eight,
the pickleballers and the tennis players, and they are not happy with each other.
So especially the tennis players, because the pickleballers are coming in and taking
over all the courts, like you were saying.
And yeah, every school has a set of four to eight tennis courts.
So why did we need a facility?
Each school has that middle school and high school, apparently because the pickleballers
are taking up all the courts.
That's what I mean.
I'm not going to, I'm not going to pay $12 million for so-and-so Mrs. Miss tennis to
go play.
Uh, if you look at that little diagram on there and says, no, pickleball court is significantly
small than a tennis court standard pickleball court measures 20 feet wide.
They play on the tennis courts though.
Yeah, I probably, yeah, but they, they, they probably, yeah, cause what they're doing is
playing that middle part there.
They probably just use those four squares.
That's correct.
When, you know, they could probably turn one tennis court into two, two pickleball courts.
Well, you gotta have nets, you know, you just gotta set up a net.
You gotta have your nets.
You gotta have your striping.
You have your wolf balls.
So is pickleball from New Jersey or something?
Where's pickleball coming from?
You gotta get a special pickleball shuttlecock.
These proposition things that show up on these ballots, I, every election cycle, I read
these things and I try, I try so hard to understand them.
Am I the only one that's confused by this?
Cause the proposition will read, uh, are you opposed to disagreeing to not paying to have,
you know, what?
That is a triple negative.
Yeah.
You're like, okay, cancel, cancel.
So I am for this then, right?
What am I against it?
No, no.
All you gotta do is take a picture of it and then walk over to the poll guy and say, okay,
what does this mean?
Yeah.
And get thrown in jail like Jeff did.
Get on the ground.
She was reaching for her gun.
I can't breathe.
Put your hands on your head.
I can't breathe.
Really?
Too soon.
God.
Let me see some hands, mister.
Geez.
I just want to know if I need to vote for the tennis court.
And the last one was, last proposition is out in California, prop 36.
Yes.
This is a, this is a, maybe there is hope for humanity.
Well, it is because it was basically undoing all of the, well, you could steal almost up
to a thousand dollars and get away with it.
Oh, that's absurd.
It was undoing.
There's more to it than that.
Undoing it.
Yeah.
It's undoing all that.
And they voted for it.
Yeah.
But just the fact that they had it in there in the first place is just absurd.
I almost wanted to go there and steal.
Right.
And I think-
That's not true.
Well, you could have, but you got away with it.
Would my name have been in the system?
Yeah.
They probably throw you in jail.
They'll let you out in an hour or two.
If I'm white, do I get like-
Oh, that's a good point.
You probably might not have been let out.
Yeah, they keep you.
You can steal $900 worth of stuff, but by God do not take a picture of your ballot.
That's right.
You son of a bitch.
Yes.
That's right.
So when they have a cart full of stuff, do they go up and start scanning it and they're
like a 980?
Okay.
Beep beep.
It's usually a big garbage bag.
Beep beep.
2005.
Oh shit.
I'm putting the Snickers back.
Well, we had a solution to this.
I'll put the Snickers back in his under-
Well, we had a solution to this, a solver.
So we're going to just mark up everything 10,000%.
And then when you get to the register to pay for it, they discount it by 10,000%.
So if you take it without the discount, then it's automatically a felony.
Right.
Over a thousand.
A stick of gum, $2,000.
You're like, dammit, that's expensive gum.
I wonder how that would have gone, or if the lawyers were like, yeah.
It would never have gone.
I don't think that would have gone.
Well, you know, I mean-
So again, this is-
I don't know what you're saying, but I don't know.
I'm sure someone thought of that.
Remember, all of these bad ideas have unintended consequences.
Gascon also got booted.
Which one?
Gascon, the LA district attorney.
He got booted?
He got booted.
That's huge.
Yeah.
Gascon.
Wow.
That guy was a piece of work.
Yeah.
But remember, because California's on the cutting edge of smart legislation to solve
problems.
The government solves every single problem, right?
So they were having-
They had to pay their bills.
Yeah, yeah.
They were having-
Well, yeah, they're $3 trillion in debt.
They were trying to keep petty thieves.
They were overcrowding their jails.
So they're like, okay, well, you know what?
Really?
You're going to jail somebody for an $800 shoplifting fee?
Tell you what.
You know, if it's over a thousand, then yes, we should put them in jail.
Otherwise, you know, no.
Well, then they got smart.
And they started stealing $999 worth of shit every day and getting, you know, arrested
and released, arrested and released.
Yeah, but you know what?
I'm almost, I mean, that's wrong, but it's just like, why are you releasing these people
that are like raping people?
Well, I don't know if they-
Well, that's another thing.
The no bail, no cash bail thing was part of this whole thing.
You know, they were releasing these people because, you know, it's not fair.
Right.
They were pressed.
Yeah.
Well, maybe California's wisen up, you know, and that's good.
That's good.
We'll see.
You know, I was going to ask, going back to the election, it was such a monumental election
yesterday.
So I want to talk about the things leading up to the actual, you know, election day,
right?
We had Biden making the mistake of calling Trump supporters garbage.
It was huge.
Right?
We had Trump going on a Joe Rogan show.
We had JD Vance going on Joe Rogan show.
We had Kamala Harris refusing to go on the Joe Rogan show because he didn't meet her.
Well, she didn't refuse.
He's like, well, you can come to me and we can meet for an hour.
Right.
Well, no, no, no.
She wanted-
45 minutes, but you got to go to her.
Yes.
Exactly.
She made these demands and he said, no, I'm not going to do that.
So-
Hey, good for him.
And what else led up to kind of in these final 10 days-
She had that interview with Bret Baer, which was a disaster.
Yeah, that was a disaster.
Yeah.
So she had a couple of public interviews and what have you that did not go well.
We had the 60 minutes editing of her answers.
She missed the-
Al-
Yeah, the Al-
Something-
Oh, the dinner.
The Catholic dinner thing.
Yeah.
Oh, and the bishop was pretty rude about it.
Which was hilarious.
I don't know if you watched that.
Oh, yeah.
No, it was pretty good.
I saw the highlights of it.
Yeah, it was good.
My point is, there were a number of things that, and then there were some high profile
endorsements, right?
Joe Rogan came out pretty late and endorsed Trump.
Elon Musk, of course, came out and endorsed Trump.
Tulsi Gabbard joined the stage.
Megyn Kelly joined the stage for Trump.
That shocked me.
I thought there were some high profile endorsements that came out.
Hulk Hogan.
Yeah, right.
Well, then Kamala got all the stars.
Right.
She got Beyonce and she got-
The P. Diddy party.
Yeah, the P. Diddy folks.
Oh, bro.
Get along, Gary.
Yeah, but how does she not know that the American-
J. Lo.
The American public couldn't give a rat's ass about Hollywood at all.
They don't.
They don't care about the celebrities.
They don't care about fucking Robert De Niro and his unhinged rants that he goes on.
They don't give a shit about those people.
Did he have another one?
No, I don't think so.
Well, he probably will.
No, I didn't see it.
I saw something and I was scrolling, but I didn't know if it was just a repeat from what
he did about a year ago.
Yeah, I don't know.
Or if it was a new one.
But here's what I was going to ask you guys.
So just kind of summarizing all those things that happened right up to the election.
I get it that not a lot of votes were changing.
You were Harris or you were Trump, but there is a middle ground people, right, on the fence
and independence.
Do you think any of those things that I just talked about swayed-
I think so.
Swayed a significant-
I think so.
For those people, probably not.
I think that Joe Rogan probably swayed some young men.
You think so?
I think so.
Because that's a huge demographic for Joe Rogan, right?
Well, JD Vance did an incredible interview with Joe Rogan.
Yeah, he was good.
He's sharp, man.
He is, and very well spoken.
Yeah.
Yeah, I agree.
And he admits he has a sailor's mouth, which I appreciate.
Yeah, his story-
Because he was dropping-
Sailor.
He was dropping bullshit and balls and cuss words during the whole-
Did you hear him tell the story about his kid saying curse words?
That was pretty funny.
That was funny.
Anyway, I'm just curious what you guys thought about that.
Well, I think it probably played a big of a role.
I don't know, but I think it probably swayed some folks.
Any good news is good news.
They did a good job.
His team did a good job plugging them in all the appropriate spots.
Right.
Hats off to Elon Musk for- speaking of Elon Musk, is he propositioning buying CNN?
Did you hear about that?
I did not.
I did not hear about that.
No.
I don't know if that was just bullshit talk.
Who owns CNN right now?
AT&T used to.
CNN?
I thought it- wasn't it-
Berkshire?
Oh, shit, I don't remember.
I don't remember, but his name pops up a lot.
I don't think any of these endorsements really changes any voter's mind.
I don't know.
This is how I kind of look at it.
You guys tell me if you think similarly.
I see these endorsements that come on TV and it doesn't really make me want to change my
vote, but what it makes me think is, oh, okay, that guy's on my team.
Right.
Beyonce, yeah, you can stay on that.
Any endorsement will not sway me at all.
Probably what you're like, you're like, all right, well, Elon seems like he's coming to
the good side or whatever.
I got to tell you, I'm nervous about Elon.
I got to tell you, I don't know if you guys have heard me talk about this perspective.
First of all, he's a genius, super smart.
I don't know if he's grounded in with his emotions considering his kids and his wife
and whatever.
I don't even care.
None of my business, keep it in the home.
Whatever's in his home, I don't give a shit.
Or compound.
He's building a compound for his-
Hey, man, good for him.
Wives and families.
Did you know that?
If I had his money, I would have compounds as well.
Right.
Yeah.
But what I'm getting at is-
Underground compounds.
Absolutely.
100%.
Underground pools.
Big silo.
Oh, God bless.
I'd have my own rocket ship.
Yep.
I'm going to Mars.
And your own limestone water with your own distillery.
Oh, God bless.
Yes, nice.
He's got how many, he's got a myriad of Starlink satellites out there in the United States.
There was a visual, a graphic that showed all the satellites.
The Starlink, yeah.
Yeah.
And then his satellites.
And he damn near owns half of them.
Half of what's up there.
Right.
So it's like, all right, well, he's into AI.
He's kind of the pioneer behind that program.
I see where you're going with this.
And he owns all these Starlinks around the God-blessed planet.
Right.
There only comes a time where he's kind of like, okay, everyone's come here, please,
and it's time for you to take your medicine.
I mean, I don't know if he's going to do that.
I'm not saying he's going to do that.
But when you've got one guy that has that much control, and mind you, his Starlinks,
if you are processing data through that, you think it's encrypted, and it is encrypted
from A to B. But in that Starlink, that Starlink, they know how to de-encrypt that.
Is that a word?
You know?
Well, all servers.
All service providers could do that.
Yeah, but my point is that he knows, I mean, his, whatever Elon Musk's name is as far as
the company, what is the company that owns Starlink?
Is this Starlink?
Starlink.
Is Starlink a public company?
I believe so.
Then he doesn't own it.
Well, I mean, but still.
I don't know.
If it's a private company, he may own it.
If it's a public company, like Tesla, he doesn't own Tesla.
He owns a bunch of Tesla.
But regardless, it's just like, it bothers me when someone else has that much control.
That much power.
You know, it's almost like a monopoly.
And if you try to arrest him, he'll just get on a rocket and go.
Whatever.
We can't even catch him.
When Bell Telephone had total control of our telephones, they broke him down into what,
seven factions?
They could still do that.
They could do that with Starlink now, blah, blah, blah, now, but they could in the future.
But you see what I'm saying.
That's kind of what I'm forecasting.
I'm kind of like, geez, can you imagine this?
That could never happen.
Is he kind of like the bad guy in James Bond with the cat?
I don't think he is.
I really don't.
Goldfinger.
What happens if he mysteriously passes away because he got a flu and he dies and someone
has to take over.
Somebody has to take over it because now people are dependent on these Starlink systems.
You know, we go out to Colorado.
He doesn't run the company.
But that's, well, I mean, does he own it or not?
We don't know.
And running it are two different things.
It's not like he's sitting.
He has a whole company.
But he's just, he just makes a shit ton of money off of it.
But it's his business plan.
He doesn't run the company, though, the day to day.
I think what the point is, he's not in a position to actually control the satellites, right?
He's not behind a bank of monitors where he's.
Well, he's not pushing the buttons, but you don't think that he's got a department in
there of development and all this magic stuff where he's kind of like, hey, we got control
over this.
I mean, just like Twitter.
You know, it's a good point.
I mean, it's a good point.
I agree.
You remember when Ukraine wanted to use Starlink satellites to launch an attack on the Baltic,
the Black Sea base, Russia's black.
And then when Elon found out that they were that's what they wanted to use the Starlink
satellites for to help launch, you know, like satellite guided that shit down, he was like,
yeah, I can't let you do that.
So I mean, he's that right there is like a like that.
That's kind of what I'm driving.
He has the ability to like shut you off.
Hey, yeah, sorry.
Yeah, nothing for you.
No soup for you.
No soup.
So I'm not worried about it, but I mean, you raise a you raise a good point.
It's valid.
I'm not worried about it either.
It is a valid point.
It's it's hanging in the mist.
Like you could be up at your cabin and you're like, yeah, Paul, you're not getting any data
today.
Did you vote for Trump?
I think about it just like you'd be Harris.
Did you vote for Harris?
I'm shutting you out.
This wonderful hue in this coplet Glen Caron that we have.
Goblin.
Are you are you wanting to talk about the bourbon that we're drinking?
I was proposing maybe we chat about it before time expires.
Larry, you want to start us off with you?
You're probably like this shit sucks.
I know I.
But hold on.
What is it?
Oh, where's his head?
You guys have a little bit left in your glass.
I'm sorry.
I already have a little more.
He's going to need another five hours.
The I guess he liked it is what I gather.
Yeah, this is a fine bourbon is called Chattanooga Whiskey, a straight bourbon whiskey.
It's a single barrel.
Just single barrel.
Single barrel.
So that's what makes the difference.
It's not a it's not a rye.
It's a straight whiskey bourbon.
It's a single barrel Chattanooga.
Yeah.
What's the proof on this one?
One hundred eighteen point six.
I believe that's six hundred and eighty proof.
Oh, wow.
That just evaporates when you pour it.
I'm drunk.
Damn it.
I tried to suck it in.
No, I was going to say I had most of this.
I drank it straight out of the you know, you don't have a little glass that you have here.
And what I had about one finger left still in the glass, I got my water bottle and probably
doubled the volume of the of the liquid in the glass.
I got to say it was like a whole new dynamic.
Yeah.
If you had water, it was it was like more velvety.
I was getting some vanilla in there.
Yeah.
And I like that.
And it can be very little water, like just several drops of water can make a massive
change to to that.
And and I think generally we're like, no, you got to drink it neat.
You can't add water to it.
Well, don't be a pansy.
But I mean, there is, you know, they can improve it.
It's like the fray approved it for you.
Amen.
Actually, I didn't try with water, did I?
Yeah, you did.
That's what got you to drink it.
Oh, nice.
OK.
You know what?
I will try it.
I like why not?
I have mixed with water.
I think I think if I want it diluted and this is going to sound gross for a lot of people,
but if I want to dilute it, I just take a smaller sip and I use my saliva.
Well, I don't think it's a matter of diluting.
It's about changing the flavors.
All right.
So I've had it without water and now I've added a little bit of water.
So let's just see how this goes.
All right.
Continue.
Continue discussing them on your.
So I thought with drinking it neat, it was very bourbony.
But really didn't, you know, it was almost too much.
So what kind of tasting notes do you kind of get in there?
But after I added the water, I got to say, I was like, man, this is fantastic.
It was much more palatable, much more velvety.
I taste a grapefruit brulee.
Wow.
Paul, did you have it with the water?
What did you think?
Yeah.
OK.
So with meringue drinking it neat, I'm not going to lie.
It had a hot.
It had a hot finish.
Yeah.
It was a little harsh.
It's very rich and flavorful, but it's too harsh for my taste.
So adding a little bit of water absolutely dumbed it down.
So that's a good point.
I'm picking up a really good point.
I'm picking up, you know, I don't know a little bit.
That ridiculous grapefruit brulee.
But I'm picking up I don't know if it's cherries or some kind of sweet fruit.
I think it may be some cherries.
Fruit.
Well, cherries, stone fruit, I guess.
But yeah, so like the red fruits is what I'm picking up.
So I've got, you know, crazy.
I got notes written down and I'll just read them because as I'm saying them, you kind
of taste them, which is just odd.
I don't know what that's like.
You know, I don't know if it's the power suggestion, but I wrote down a baklava all
spice chocolate banana bread.
Anise.
I can't read my own writing.
This is something you pull from the website.
Yes.
OK.
Toasted biscuit finish.
Yeah.
Anise with a sweet toasted biscuit finish.
Anise, that's a licorice flavor.
Yeah, I think these bourbon stores that have to come up with these descriptions just basically
go to chat GPT and say, give me something original for what a bourbon might taste like.
Yeah, it's crazy.
I can almost taste the anise a little bit.
I'm getting some little bit of oaky flavor.
I'm getting some vanilla flavor.
Yeah, which you can say about any bourbon, right?
Yeah, it's fair.
True.
But I will say this is kind of crazy.
I added water to this and I actually taste some cantaloupe.
I that's a distinct taste for me.
But it's with adding water.
That's the meringue game.
It's with adding water.
Are you sure you didn't just burp?
Maybe you.
I might have been.
Oh, no, it's on my screen.
Yeah, that's it.
I was at a distillery this past.
We'll talk about it next podcast, but I was at a distillery.
But the tasty notes on one of the single barrels down there, I found kind of way over the top.
It's so see if you can get this.
Cinnamon rolls with orange glaze.
This is the one.
This is the one is at the place you went.
Who would even have had that before?
Cinnamon rolls.
You're not saying it right.
Cinnamon with Glase.
No, cinnamon.
And the next one is butternut squash in a brown butter and sage sauce.
Shut up.
That's so stupid.
I even called that out when I was down there.
The guy was like, yeah, yeah, this is dumb.
And then apple strudel with puff pastry.
All of that.
Hold on.
What was the last one?
Apple strudel with puff pastry.
Oh, with puff pastry.
Because apple strudel doesn't quite hit it.
What would puff pastry?
Well, the butternut squash, the brown butter, sausage, sage is what got me.
That's over the top.
All in all, I think it's got a well.
It's not too balanced.
I think it's got too much of a I think the tobacco is a little bit too much.
The tobacco leaf that you get that that that dry tea taste that you get in there.
I'm not enjoying that much.
I think it's a little too astringent.
I think it's harsh.
The finish is harsh.
Without being watered down, it's harsh.
So if I were to in the hundred and eighteen proof range, right, I would probably give
this a six three.
A three six three six point six point three.
Yeah, because this is comparing to the rare characters.
All that shit out there.
So we we have a we've modified our rating system on a scale to one to ten with one decimal,
actually with whatever you want.
And we also put them in separate categories because we realize that a 90 proof is different
from one hundred and fifteen proof.
We're going to have a lot of different tasting notes and plus one hundred and thirty plus
has way different taste than the 90 proof.
It's going to be way more difficult to have different flavors.
So we broke them up in categories.
Basically we have three, right?
We have 90 to whatever about one hundred fifteen ish whatever.
And then anything over one twenty five ish.
Something like that.
I don't like that.
Something like that.
So we're going to go with the middle and I agree with you.
Would you do six three six point three?
Yeah, I would do six five.
That's why I was at six five for me.
It's good.
Larry, what do you think?
The compared to the other ones, it's not as good.
I'm right there with you.
I wasn't going to do the decimal point.
I was going to declare this.
It's above average.
It's not a gut rot, pretty burnt.
But then again, it's not the smoothest whiskey I've ever had.
I'm going to go with a six.
I know the first pool I took off the glass was was harsh for me.
Yes, really harsh.
It's mellowed some.
It's been open and it's in here.
Let it aerate a little bit.
But the first first pool was really, really, really hot.
Just far as legs and scratchy.
You know what?
It holds its viscosity pretty well.
I mean, I have a higher expectation for a single barrel, too.
That's true.
And they are deliberately pulling out a barrel that they think is good enough to bottle.
And man, with that harsh finish, I'm like, there's not a better one than that one.
I don't know.
So I think it is fair.
I think it is fair to to judge single barrels a little more tightly.
I enjoy single burst.
Yeah, I just belched and it was a lot of the tobacco I got.
Oh, yeah, I can smell it.
Yeah, I smell you.
Thanks.
Thanks, Jeff.
That's good.
Gastric.
Got some on your belly.
Yeah, that's great.
So you did.
So, you know, we've got 10, 15 more minutes left on the podcast.
So the second part.
Well, first of all, I did mention this at the beginning of the thing for dudes like
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And we are looking for sponsorships if you're interested in throwing a dollar in two bucks
to help us to get some videos because we want to get some videos up here.
And we're also looking at only fans, aren't we?
Oh, wait, because what is going to be only fans?
It's going to be our feet on the table.
Oh, yes.
Oh, you know what?
We can put cameras under the table just of our feet.
Oh, well, I love it.
Three.
I've broken all my toes.
All my nails are gnarly.
Three sets of middle aged, middle aged gnarly feet.
Tell me that's not an only fans draw right there.
There's an audience for that.
Well, speaking of only fans, did you guys hear about the squirrel out in a squirrel
that had his own only fans?
Peanut.
Not an only fans.
No, he had his only fans.
Only fans is not all porn, believe it or not.
So it's a pornography squirrel.
No, you didn't listen to what I said.
I know I did.
I did.
All right.
So peanut, the squirrel.
Yeah.
So this so the story is that the owner of it, I don't have the exact the name on Mark Longo
is his name.
Mark Longo lives and I don't know what state he lives in New York, I think.
Yes, this is the owner.
Yeah, this is the New York government.
So Mark Longo was sharing that he watched the mother of the squirrel, baby squirrel
die.
He got hit by a car and he rescued the baby.
And he brought it up and he thought it was cute and just had fun with it.
And then I forget how they procured or I got the raccoon, but there's also Fred the raccoon.
Right.
So you got peanut, the squirrel and Fred the raccoon and their family members for nine
years.
They had peanut.
It is.
It's crazy.
And I guess somebody complained on Instagram and it was a hit.
You know, peanut, the squirrel was a kind of viral.
Yeah, he had a bunch of followers.
Followers.
Ridiculous.
Probably more followers than we do.
And he's a squirrel.
Yeah, he does.
Damn it, Archer.
They lived in an apartment building.
Was it that?
Oh, he was in a house, I thought.
Yeah, I thought he was in the house.
He was hit.
So somebody complained.
Yeah.
So Mark Longo, the owner of the Instagram famous squirrel, Peanut, is mourning the loss
of his beloved pet.
On November 1st, Longo took to Instagram to reveal Peanut had been euthanized along
with his pet raccoon named Fred by the New York State Department of Environmental Conservation.
Unbelievable.
Yeah.
This is a microcosm of government overreach right here.
So instead of having this animal live a happy life, where was that?
I'm just going to kill it.
Well, I think the story was somebody complained.
And they had...
They were afraid of rabies.
Right.
And they came to collect, I guess, the squirrel and the raccoon to test them.
And when they were doing that, they got bitten.
So why was Peanut the squirrel confiscated?
It says on Wednesday, October 30th, Peanut the squirrel and Longo's other pet, the raccoon
named Fred, were seized from his home by the New York State Department of Environmental
Conservation.
According to NBC News, the DEC received multiple anonymous complaints about Peanut and showed
up to Longo's house and six other officers to take Peanut and Fred away.
Six?
Oh, well that's...
In a joint statement, the DEC, the Keenan County Department of Health, say that they
were coordinated to ensure that the protection of the public health related to the illegal
possession of wild animals who have the potential to carry the rabies virus.
Dogs can carry the rabies virus.
You know, I'll tell you...
What the hell?
I wish I had the...
Six of them?
Seven of them?
So look, I saw some video of...
They ransacked his dude's house because he had the...
I guess he had them put away or something.
I don't know.
They couldn't find him.
Maybe they're just running around the house or something like that.
They couldn't find...
They ransacked his house.
Oh my God.
He had the videos going, this is my closet.
And you know, he's going to the drawers and things turned upside down and they broke a
few things.
And he's like, what the fuck, man?
This is unbelievable.
So I'll tell you another story.
Well, Trump jumped on it.
He became a Peanut fan.
Did he really?
Oh yeah.
There are memes out there and everything.
It's just...
It's overstepping their authority.
Absolutely.
I mean, when it comes to time, you got to have some grace.
You got to have some compassion.
You got to like read the room.
You know, what's going on?
What's really going on here?
If he had it for nine years, they should have one person show up and have a sit down and
say, Hey, let's go over this.
Right.
You know, it's...
I mean, he wasn't like stockpiling guns.
Hey, we need to test your squirrel every year to for rabies.
You know what?
I'd say, you know what?
Deal.
I'll put them in a little cage.
We'll go up there.
You test them.
And then I take my dog.
But I will compare this to some other domesticated animals.
If I have a dog and this has happened to one of the Tyrus on, he shared on the Greg Gutfield
show regarding his two dogs.
He had two dogs.
Somebody had jumped over his fence.
Some defarious dude jumped over his fence and his dog bit him in the butt.
And then the dog pound came in and they took the dogs.
They had to take both the dogs.
To test them.
Well, yeah, to test them.
And Tyrus said, Hey, look, you have to leave the dogs together.
If you separate them, they're going to attack you.
Just leave them together and everything's great.
And then they separate them.
And then the dogs bit him and they euthanized him.
Oh my God.
So, I mean, it happens to like even domesticated dogs.
It's just like, I bet you that shit happens more than we all the time.
And I just, well, if a dog does bite someone, a lot of the thought of the end result is
if it's a bad bite, right?
Sure.
Is euthanasia.
I get it.
But why are they overreaching to begin with?
Well, exactly.
They shouldn't have come into this guy's house.
Well, they should have done what Sean said.
Hey, show up.
Let's have a sit down.
Let's set up.
Let's test them.
And then they get in a little bit of trouble.
And every year you come in, you know, maybe they didn't want to get a word out there that,
hey, everyone can now keep squirrels.
So they went about this all wrong.
So you're saying the neighbor?
Why can't you keep a squirrel?
And can't you give a squirrel a vaccine?
Oh yeah.
Yeah.
And the COVID.
Because it works so well.
It works really well.
Good Lord.
So you're saying the neighbor jumped over the fence?
In the backyard?
No, it wasn't a neighbor.
It was a nefarious individual.
Some of that wasn't supposed to be there.
Ah, see, you have to shoot them before the dog bites them.
Then you're fine.
Stand your ground.
But it's, it's the point by saying that is that it's just, it's a, it's huge overstep
and it's a member of your family.
For some of these people, it's a member of the family.
It's a member of family for anybody that has a dog.
I wish the, the, the animal rights folks would come to my house and take my 19 year old multipoo
away.
19?
Really?
Dude, she's the pet cemetery.
She's...
Wow.
That's impressive.
Is she in pain, you think?
I don't know.
And frankly, it's kind of hard to know that dogs are in pain.
You know, it's, I feel bad.
I mean, she gets up out of her kennel and I call it the, you know, it's the dead dog
walking, dead dog walking.
And she literally walks to the dog door.
She shits and pisses all the way to the dog door.
She gets there.
She's like, I'm fucking done.
And she turns around and goes right back.
So she never goes outside.
Larry, it's painful to watch.
Yeah.
She's very, very old.
You know what?
Sean, you might have the only scenario with it that the inspectors show up at your house
and they're like, let me see this dog.
And they're like, yeah, nevermind.
She looks at him with those two glossy glaucomatized eyes.
And they're like, nevermind.
Well, I always worry about when the dogs get that old, what's the quality of life?
Are they, are they in pain or that kind of thing?
She would murmur if she were in pain.
I don't think she's in pain, but I don't think, I mean, you hear her when she gets excited
because you could tell the way her little paws bounce around when she's a bronco.
19 years old.
Yeah.
That is unreal.
It is unreal.
Just like the election with Donald Trump being, you know, I'm super excited.
Look, I'm stoked.
I had some friends on Facebook like, hey guys, let's not overdo it.
Let's not super celebrate.
We got to respect all those people.
I'm like, fuck them.
I was.
I was like, I'm celebrating.
I was stoked.
I was super stoked.
Anyway, this is a very exciting, very exciting evening.
November 6th, 2024.
It's a fantastic, Larry.
Excellent.
Are you going to stay for the second half?
I would love to.
Thank you.
Awesome.
Well, dudes like us, I'm Sean.
I'm Paul.
I'm Jeff.
And I'm Larry.
Hello.
Yeah.
Oh good.
You're still here.
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