Welcome to the second half marriage counseling session.
This is Dr. Ruth Westheimer.
That's the wrong kind of counseling.
You need to have more sex.
Okay.
Obviously it's the second half of the dudes like us podcast.
It is October 22nd.
Obviously the second half it is close to Halloween.
By the way, I've got a Halloween party coming up this weekend.
You do?
It's the opening day.
What's the theme?
The theme is arcade games.
What is it?
Retro arcade games.
From a specific era?
Retro.
I'll say it's 80s.
You're just now finding out?
Yes.
You need a costume.
You're so full of poo poo.
You need a costume, bro.
Let's get a t-shirt.
So what are you going in?
What the hell, dude?
You've had so long.
Dude, if I'm putting my costume together and literally this week, you should be able to
too.
You better shit something extravagant.
I'm not being a French maid.
There's no arcade game of French maid.
I'm sure there's one out there.
Really?
I'm going to search for it.
Thank you, Mr. Producer.
Staying on top of shit.
Dudes like us.
I'm Sean.
I'm Paul.
I am Jeff.
And Jackie Mack.
Jackie Mack is visiting us.
She stayed along for the second half.
Welcome back.
I'm so excited.
I did.
It was the alcohol.
Oh.
So it's not ours.
That's the only reason.
I mean, it is the wit and charm and all those good stuff.
But you called us good looking too.
But the booze was the key.
I don't think I don't think I called you that.
She compared you to a hoagie sandwich.
I said y'all are really fun.
There you go.
She said you're not as ugly as you guys sound.
Great personality.
So you tasted the earmarks of rejection.
You tasted the infinity bottle out there.
Lord have mercy.
What do you think of that?
Do it in half time.
Stinking believable.
But I mean, I spent probably the break trying to figure out what exactly it was I was tasting.
Yeah, it's all over the place.
Yeah.
It's like a barbecue like that.
That crystallized sugar from grilling ribs.
Sure.
That.
Yeah, it's good.
So that the those folks that don't know out there that do talk us podcast, we have collected.
We bought what?
Four one gallon containers.
We're on the first gallon, by the way.
Yeah.
First one.
That was full.
Yeah.
First one's almost full.
We're about to pop into the second one pretty soon.
We can't wait to do that one.
We have some work to do.
We're getting into it.
So the spirit of how we get these infinity bottles is that we do usually a new whiskey
or bourbon and on the first half and a new whiskey and an old one.
Doesn't matter.
We pick one new and one old.
Sure.
That's kind of the thing which we try to do.
Doesn't always work out that way.
But that's what we try to do.
That way we can go through the bottles and we want to replace them as well.
So if it's a bottle that we know we had and we're like, eh, we're not going to replace
that, we'll just leave it up there.
Because I'd rather have it up there because someone might show up and they'd be like,
oh my God, that is wonderful.
I haven't had that Clyde's made in such a long time.
Or Williamsburg.
Oh, Williamsburg.
That's very coconutty.
I've been looking for it forever.
Williamsburg?
Plus, I'm in.
That's why Paul got it because it says it's full of coconut flavor.
At some point it's going to become rare.
It's full of coconut.
Rare and new.
It's really well sought.
It's terrible.
So when we finish a bottle up, we usually dump one to four ounces into the infinity
bottle prior to disposing of it.
Because if it doesn't have enough to feed us three healthy podcast servings, we just
kind of throw it out.
Put it in the infinity bottle.
We write a label on there and Mr. Producer records it onto our ledger.
And there we go.
I think we're right up to 47.
Actually, I think it's more.
47.
Well, you said 47.
So we're going to stop at 50.
Yeah.
As long as we have room, we're going to stop at 50 and then start the next one.
Yeah, there's still room in there for six.
Oh, for sure.
We'll figure it out.
I recommend everyone do a infinity bottle.
I just started my infinity bottle.
In fact, I dumped my first bottle today.
So it's not of infinity bottle yet.
No, well, it's right now.
You just move bottles.
No, I have a, I've got a half gallon and I printed a little label on there and I wrote
on there because I was going through, I was trying to do a quick inventory for the Halloween
party coming up this weekend.
And I was like, what do I have?
What do I need just for the party?
And I was like, there's a Texas honey giant in there.
There's a honey from Texas, Texas giant in there.
Yeah.
You know, it's not bought like a couple bottles brought them back.
And so I was like, well, fuck man.
They've got like two ounces in the bottle.
And I was like, first of all, why is it in the cabinet?
Because it shouldn't be there.
It should be in my office.
You can probably dump all those heaven's door as well or have it's gate or whatever it is.
Yeah, I'm on the, I know I will do that.
I will do that.
But I'm going to drink them.
Those are good stuff.
Right down to, I'm going to redline them and put exactly two ounces of each one in there.
Is it heaven's door?
It's a, yeah, heaven's door.
Yeah.
I mean, they are fantastic.
I bought a couple from total wine, bought a couple from specs.
I got a couple.
Well, the cast drinks are the good ones.
Yes.
They're tremendous.
Love them.
Every single one.
Anything cast drinks is delicious.
Amen sister.
Well, typically the celebrity whiskies are not very good.
Say again?
So the celebrity whiskies typically aren't very good.
This one's a Bob Dylan one, which is the cast strength of ones we've had have been very,
very good.
Yeah.
Are you talking about this one right here we're doing right now?
No, the one, the heaven's door is a Bob Dylan.
Yeah.
Juncture or whatever.
It's endorsed by a celebrity.
It generally most of them are not very good.
Yeah.
I agree.
You know, interesting because I'm in the aisles of the whiskey, um, uh, at the liquor store
in the, in the whiskey aisles, uh, every week and everyone asks her Beyonce's she has a
whiskey.
It's not really a whiskey.
Is it where you get drunk and someone rapes you?
Oh my gosh.
Was that too soon?
What'd you say?
That was too soon.
Did he?
Oh,
um, and, but people, it's not in the whiskey aisle where I am.
I'm in the Scotch and whiskey and rye aisles and it's the, it's where the crown oil is.
Oh, but it's a beautiful bottle.
It's absolutely gorgeous.
Is it literally a Canadian whiskey?
Canadian whiskey.
What is Beyonce's?
I don't think it's with, I think it's just, uh, it's the proof.
I will not put my support behind that.
You won't?
No.
Even for the bottle.
I don't think it's a good bottle any day.
No, I have, I've got some standards here in, you know, I do look, I look, the bottle is
nice.
Pitty P did he's not on the list, but God bless it.
There is some nefarious stuff going on.
It's not good.
That is, that is worse than Epstein's Island.
I mean, some of the, the audios that's being released of Diddy and the fact that he's got
a relationship with JC and the fact that the whole scene, it's just gross.
Yeah.
I'm not saying I'm not saying I don't know and it'd be irresponsible for me to, to, to,
to lay blame on that stuff.
But you, I smell shit and I, there's, there's, there's something shitty going on there and
I don't trust it.
The fact that all these stars are, Oh, Beyonce, I need to thank you.
Why the fuck do you need to thank her?
I mean, what is she doing?
Oh, when they're accepting an award on stage, just kind of randomly like, yes, I'm like,
what does she do?
Does she really help them?
Maybe.
Anytime you're thanking somebody, you're off, you're extending honor to whatever.
Yeah.
But is it the question?
Well, I want to hold out judgment on her until something comes out.
Now her husband, I think is wrapped up in it because there's pictures of him hanging
around with JLo and Diddy and have nude and all that shit.
So can I ask you a question?
Because we talked about, you know, husbands and wives and marriage earlier.
Do you think that if something was shady, that your wife wouldn't know?
You're saying you're going to say, you're saying you're going to hold out judgment.
I don't know if she's involved in any of that.
She may know about it.
And I have a problem with that because especially if people are being abused incorrectly, especially
young folks, some of the problem with that, like the video, the audio you shared is horrific.
I couldn't listen to it.
Fucking P Diddy going, it's okay.
Just let it all out.
That was so sad.
The dude was crying in the background.
I'm like, the guy who's sobbing, I guess it's a song called Bad Bunny.
Nah, man, it's whoever sang that is who this guy was.
He was getting just, okay, we don't need to talk about that anyway.
These are dudes like us things that happen that I mean, hopefully don't happen, but to
us, but I'm just like, these are things that are happening right now in front of us.
I mean, we talk about, you know, look, you got to talk about it.
You got to talk about it.
Look, there's a kid, what's his name?
God damn it, the young singer.
Bieber.
I mean, he was 15 years old.
Right.
You know, and he's just taken in by P Diddy.
He was like, he had power over turning over him for a weekend or two weekends or whatever
the fuck it was.
And it bought, it's criminal.
The stuff that they got going on and they're just letting it go.
Finally, someone came in and raided his house and they took all the bunch of the videos.
Right.
Look, man, it's fucked up and it's happening right here in the United States.
And you're kind of like, why the fuck is this happening here?
And this, we didn't, this is sick.
And you're talking mainly about the sexual trafficking thing.
Absolutely.
Well, what I want to say is it was up on our board.
We never, we didn't get to anything, but the CEO of Abercrombie and Fitch.
Oh yeah.
He had some problems to begin with with how he was running his company.
And he was, he wasn't, he hasn't been CEO since 2014 or 15.
Tell the listeners who that is.
Well, Mike Jeffries, he was, he started Abercrombie and Fitch.
If you all remember that basically, uh, they wanted young, very good looking models.
Super skinny, half naked, half naked in their advertising and you walk in their stores.
If you don't fit their model, they really wouldn't help you much.
And they were very choosy.
Right.
Yeah.
And, uh, he just got arrested, uh, him and his partner and another dude, uh, for sex
trafficking.
Unbelievable.
And what they were doing is they were flying in young male models to these parties across
the world in France and Morocco and, uh, uh, St. Barts across the world.
New York city was another one and they'd get there and what they would do and says, if
you want my help, this is what you have to do.
Right.
And there'd be alcohol, there'd be muscle relaxants and other ways that they're applying
these young men freak off parties, uh, to do this.
And he just got busted.
I don't know.
It was on, uh, the 19th, I think is when he got arrested.
I just saw it in the news today that he's arrested and his partner was, so they're basically
taking what Harvey Weinstein did for decades to a whole new level.
Yeah.
Yes.
And he just, yeah, it's disgusting.
And those guys, they do that, a euthanize them.
They're not even worth the courts.
Just fucking just put them out.
They have to prove it first.
Can't do that.
I mean, that would be Iranian style justice.
But, but, uh, so here's the thing.
We know Hollywood's a dark place, man.
They, they've, I mean, not all of them, but I mean, there's dark deep stories coming out
from the fifties and weird shit's been going on for fame and money and power and they can
do anything they want and they do.
I think it's the lifestyle they love because they love it and they don't see anything wrong
with it and no one's telling them differently.
Hey, this is wrong.
Right.
Well, PDD walks around saying I'm going to do what I want when I want.
Right.
You can shut the hell up.
Well, and every time he's gotten in trouble, he has the money to get himself off.
Right.
So he gets out of trouble really relatively quickly.
Well, this time, I don't want to.
We took a dark turn here, but you know what?
At the same time, but the same time we need to acknowledge this.
This doesn't need to be a Weinstein thing where we just brush this off.
I mean, you got to think about it.
Weinstein did the same thing.
Yeah.
All right.
And you have people like Michelle Obama endorsing him and telling him how wonderful Weinstein
is, you know, it tells you got to think about the bigger picture.
How far does this thing go?
I'm not saying the Obamas are involved in this, but why the hell are they endorsing
somebody like that?
They still are.
I mean, I mean, they did back then.
I mean, they knew what was going on.
How can you not know what's going on?
It's a I think I think they were looking for a gig post presidency and trying to get
on his good side.
Now, whether they're mixed up in that, they look at their influential.
Yeah, they're influential.
He was very influential in that industry.
Yeah.
And they're and they're trying to break into that.
And they're and they have a partnership with Netflix.
They're producing and making their own shows.
Now they wanted to get into that.
The money is all connected.
Oh, it is.
The parties and the money and the and the connections and the it's it's just all.
We look at Corey Feldman.
Yes.
He's a he's been saying this.
He's been saying it for decades and nothing and nothing's happened.
Yeah.
Well, they're they're like, shut the fuck up or we're going to whack you.
You can say you can do what you want.
Guess what we're going to do.
We're going to fund your little band excursions.
And I would stand up in front of 10,000 people and act like a fool and act like you know
how to play the guitar.
And I mean, that's what he does.
You've seen him.
It's terrible.
Oh, terrible.
Good Lord.
You talk about they always talk about cringe, right?
It is cringe at the highest level.
How the hell I know how the hell they they promised him this is a look, you shut the
fuck up.
We don't care.
You can do what you want and we'll fund whatever you need.
That's right.
Yeah.
We'll put you on the way.
Here we are.
Yeah.
This poor is freaking amazing.
It is.
Well, we're not supposed to talk about it just yet.
Not yet.
We're not.
It's got to be a secret.
We're not going to be cue the music.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
She hasn't heard the music.
We're first time.
Right.
That's all right.
We could talk about it.
I'm new.
Well, we can do it.
Let's talk about it.
I'm just going to drink it.
I took a couple of pulls of it, but it's a hundred proofs.
So it takes a little bit longer to.
All right, Mr. Producer, we're we're talking about it.
We're talking about what do we got?
So this is an angel's envy.
Is it a finished right?
Yeah, it's it's a finished right.
It's a finished right.
So angels envy, they pride themselves by taking the whiskey or bourbons and they put it in
a rum casks like this one is in a rum cask.
It's a finished in the Caribbean rum cask.
They've got they put them in like cognac wine.
They got all kinds of different styles.
I was not aware of that.
I was not aware of that either.
So that's what gives it that funky tail end spin on it.
You know that?
Well, I wrote down a couple of things just on the nose.
When I first stuck my nose in there, I picked up grapes.
Oh, see, I go like totally savory every time I taste several angels envy.
I got celery seed.
Yeah, so I could I could see that the celery.
So I'm just thinking of the nose when I when I was when I was smelling it, I could pick
up some.
I mean, we were in the Canadian, we did a lot of licorice, so I'm not really getting
licorice, but I could like to maybe I am.
Now, I grew up with licorice, too, and I totally taste it like a twizzler.
I'm well, I mean, someone I mean, I'm talking about the black licorice, the traditional
licorice.
So in Canada, we have these licorice pipes.
So it's this smoke like a cigarette.
It looks like a pipe.
And then the end, it has these like little red candies on the end of it and and yeah,
that's where it all started.
It's all it's where it all started.
Where it all began.
That's where my palette began.
Licorice pipe.
Yeah, they're delicious.
I still order them from time to time.
Is that right there?
Right there here.
I have never seen this.
Are you all licorice fans?
Yeah, I love.
I can eat a bag of licorice and not feel guilty at all.
I can eat.
Absolutely.
Is that a red?
No, it's not.
That's not fucking licorice.
That's not licorice.
That's a twizzler.
That's not.
So it has to be it has to be black and black.
Well, it's licorice.
That's what it is.
Liquorice.
There's another.
There's no other forms of licorice other than black licorice.
You guys are telling me that's what we're telling you.
So I don't I don't because I don't think that's true.
I'm not an authority on licorice.
I don't know.
We have to kind of like Google.
We know everything.
So whatever we say is good.
I do not believe that's true.
But you know, what do I know?
Yeah.
So Chelsea would tell me my youngest daughter, when we would go home to Nova Scotia, we would
talk about liquor.
I would always buy a box of licorice to bring them home.
And it's kind of phallic.
It makes you very gassy.
So look, the essential ingredients of black licorice confectionary are its licorice extract,
sugar in a binder.
The base is typically starch flavor gum, Arabic gelatin or a combination thereof.
Additional ingredients, you know, flavoring beeswax for the shiny surface and ammonia
chloride in molasses.
I'm on chloride.
What is ammonia chloride, Mr. Producer?
You are a chemical engineer student.
I don't need the fucking.
I'm just going to tell you, stop it.
He's literally putting the formula up there.
All right, so you guys didn't answer my question.
The black licorice is the only licorice out there.
That's not I know that.
So that's what it is like the strawberry and the cherries.
Yeah, that's not just for fun.
They don't call those licorice.
They call them cherry flavored Twizzlers.
OK, well, I'm not a licorice expert, but that's you know, I guess growing up, you know, we
had all the different flavors, right?
So so those were chuckles.
When you think about licorice, it's kind of like the Jack and Coke.
Jack and Coke could be.
It's just whiskey and Coke.
I want a Jack and Coke.
I'm going to have a whiskey.
I'm going to have whiskey and Coke.
Sure.
It's kind of like Kleenex, right?
It could be anybody's brand of Kleenex.
Right.
Everybody's calling it Kleenex, but it's Walmart brand.
Gotcha.
Yeah.
So I think it's kind of like Xerox.
Can you go Xerox that?
Yes.
According to the A.I. it says no, not all licorice is black.
That's A.I.'s racist.
Black is the traditional licorice.
It's color black with licorice root extract.
Yeah.
Red licorice is fruit flavored and does not contain licorice flavoring.
Oh, come on.
That's not licorice.
That's bullshit.
It says licorice is made from licorice.
That's not qualified.
Yeah, it's just kind of stupid.
No, it's correct.
No, no, no.
It's correct.
It's dead on and you guys are all wrong.
I could eat a whole bag of red licorice.
All right.
So is black licorice the only real licorice?
The traditional licorice in Europe refers to, and that's where I have my.
Licorice from Europe.
Right.
Well, not Europe.
I'm from Germany.
And Europe refers to a confectionery made with licorice root extract.
So red licorice is not, quote unquote, is not real licorice, but resembles it in shape,
especially when it comes in these twisted.
Well, this says it is.
Who are we believing?
You believe my fucking, your phone is jaded.
Mine's TikTok.
I like.
Oh, I totally believe that.
Drop the mic because it's over.
TikTok is the law.
It's 100% real.
I mean, Sean, Sean believes so.
I feel like it.
Now look, I love, I enjoy it.
Licorice, you know, licorice.
I really, I do.
I won't eat a whole fucking bag.
Some pure stuff.
Does that just bind you up and like not shit for a week?
It does not.
It does the opposite.
I was going to say, is it the root extract that gets you?
I think so.
It is not.
I enjoy the taste of it.
It's a laxative.
You know, they like, like that little pipe that they had up there with the little candies
on there.
They have the same candies in Germany, but they, they have like the licorice base in
it and they roll it in the little candies.
Did you walk around like you were smoking it when you were a kid?
It wasn't a pipe.
It was more like a, in the shape of a barrel or a lozenger sort of.
Oh, interesting.
It was a lozenge.
A suppository.
You can still buy those pipes that we showed here.
You can still buy those in Canada.
In fact, I would be more than happy to procure some and share them at another time.
You have an inside scoop on that.
I do have an inside scoop.
You don't have any in your purse?
You know someone that knows someone.
I'm a connector.
I know someone who knows someone.
So you walked around with your licorice pipe and you were like, hip, hip.
Yeah, I take a bite.
Yeah, absolutely.
When we did that with the candy cigarettes.
We did.
Yeah, same thing.
I would be like the owl on the tree, but like one, two, three, it's all gone.
The owl, isn't that the Tootsie Pop?
Tootsie Pop, yes.
Yeah.
Tootsie Pop.
That's not even close to a cigarette or a cigar.
Yeah, but I would like eat it that fast.
We had the chocolate ones too, the chocolate cigarettes.
Remember?
Oh, I didn't have chocolate.
They're usually white.
They were soft, right?
Yeah.
The chocolate was a soft.
Yeah, the white ones with the red tip.
Yes.
They're crunchy.
I never had them.
Popeye cigarettes.
It was like a sugar stick is all it was.
My son should be the authority on this.
Were they Popeye cigarettes here?
What were your candy cigarettes?
Popeye cigarettes?
I don't know.
I've never, I don't have experience with this part.
Look at that.
Yeah, they look like that.
Popeye cigarettes.
So, there is a candy shop in downtown Carrollton, an old Carrollton that has everything you
could possibly imagine from your childhood for candy.
Little Charleston Chews.
Really?
Do they have a-
Yes, they have Charleston Chews.
Do they have a marathon bar?
We keep them in the freezer.
They have a marathon bar.
No, they don't.
Yeah.
Are you serious?
They do.
Like the chunky bars?
Chunky.
So, in Canada, we have totally different.
So, Aero Bar, it's a mint, these bubbly mint that's green in the middle and chocolate on
the outside.
Salsa, frasa.
A crunchy bar that's like toffee on the inside.
A wig wag.
We gotta stop talking about that.
Okay, let's stop.
This is just getting me too well.
Jeff, you wanna put your pants back on?
I don't know.
Especially the way you say it.
It's the wig wag.
I know.
Because I think about it and I'm like, you know, I think I'm gonna drive to Carribean.
Yeah, you're all breathy.
The chocolate on the outside.
Everybody's-
It is crunchy on the inside.
Look at those Popeye cigarettes.
Aren't they beautiful?
Yeah, that's it.
And I smoke those puffs.
I used to smoke those puffs.
Yeah, that's it.
As a kid, I used to take a piece of paper and make a cigarette.
Like we would-
We would catch it on fire?
No, no, but I would color-
Those are called rolling papers, did you put tobacco in there?
I would color the end of it red and then I would roll it up and I would tape it and
I would hand it one to my friend and I'd make one for myself and we'd walk around.
Smoking was-
Yeah.
That was the cool thing back then.
It was so-
Yeah.
Everybody smoked it.
I remember being 14, 15.
Same.
Fort Monmouth, New Jersey.
Monmouth Regional High School.
Oh, New Jersey again.
Yeah.
There we are.
Look at that.
The guardian state.
I'd be on the side in between classes, go outside and smoke a couple Marlize.
So you were actually smoking?
Oh yeah, I was out there just like-
Sick as a dog.
That's why you're a chink.
Why am I doing this?
It makes me hurt so bad.
I'm going to puke.
I look cool though.
I smoked at 12 and then I remember at 14 asking my dad, we're driving one time to-
Down the road and I said, hey dad, I want to smoke at home.
I smoke and my dad said, absolutely not.
Well, that was the end of that conversation.
I'm amazed you asked him.
You thought he would say yes?
Yeah, I did think he would say yes.
Did your father smoke?
And you were 12?
My dad smoked at a young, 12 years old and my dad smoked at a very young age and I just
thought if I asked him then I could smoke at home.
Did he continue to smoke?
No.
Oh, so he stopped.
He grew up.
Yeah.
He grew up and stopped smoking.
I smoked from 12 to 26.
When I moved to the United States, cigarettes are very different here.
The way they're processed and the taste is extremely different.
Well, it's because they add more nicotine.
Yeah, they add all the chemicals and Canada, they can't add the chemicals.
It has to be the natural product.
So they're the healthy cigarettes.
Oh, they're healthy.
Is that a thing?
At $25 a package now.
Yes, they're healthy cigarettes.
They're laced with fiber.
Yeah, absolutely.
They're no seed oils.
No seed oils.
Those are so bad for you.
I have had one cigarette in my entire life.
No.
And it was a, okay, I think we had a, probably a bachelor party.
We were at a titty bar and somebody was smoking a cigarette and they're like, and I was like,
this is something I got to do.
You know what I mean?
One time, come on.
All right, I lit it up.
Did you smoke the whole cigarette?
I smoked it start to finish because I wanted to do what I was supposed to do.
And I was like, okay, I'm don't see the job.
Did you inhale?
I did.
Oh, I was going to go all the way with it in terms of start to finish one cigarette.
Yes.
All the way.
Now, and then cigars with my roommates in college, we lit up cigars and I could not
finish it.
It was the grossest.
My mouth was just nasty.
I've never smoked a cigar, but I am enamored with the smell.
It can smell good.
I'm more enamored with pipe smoke than I am with pipe smoke.
Smells good.
I like, I like smoking a cigar once in a while.
I actually like smoking a cigarette once in a while.
I am not a cigarette smoker.
Let's be clear.
But like once a year, I might have a cigarette.
Someone's around me.
Does it make you ill?
It did for a while.
It did.
But first of all, look, I was a, I've had, I've worked a job as a disc jockey in a nightclub.
So I mean, I was either smoke or you're going to get it anyways, because you're in a club.
So I was used to smoking.
So I was like, I never woke up in the morning and say, Hey, I want to smoke a cigarette.
You know, it's usually shaking.
Oh, yeah.
I got to have a cigarette before I take my morning shit or cup of coffee.
You know, I was like, no, no, I never did that.
She's like, take the whole day and then I get to work and, uh, you know, I start drinking
and the next thing you know, I want to smoke.
So situational smoking.
Yeah.
You get to work and you start drinking.
Can we go back?
Can we unravel that for a moment?
Well, look, I was a disc jockey.
So you drink a whole like bottle of Grand Marnier.
Actually that's exactly what it was back then.
It was, is Grand Marnier was kind of my thing.
Cause in fact, everyone kind of knew that.
So when, if there were these, these women would come up to me and they'd be like, so
can you play some beastie boys?
And I'd be like, bitch, go to the bar, give them my drink and I'll think about it.
I did not say it like that.
Look at you being all cocky.
I was cocky, but you know, my drink.
No, no, no, no.
I didn't.
Hmm.
So they figured it out.
They figured it out what I wanted, but they, they'd show up and the bartenders knew.
So anytime they had to have a cup of coffee, but a coffee cup, I should say, I knew there's
Grand Marnier in there and those fucking guys, the bartenders, they would fill them up.
I mean, imagine a cup of coffee, you know, eight ounce, 10 ounce cup of coffee.
God bless.
They'd fill it up and they'd bring it to the booth.
And next thing you'll boom.
I drink three or four of those a night and God bless.
Boom.
I mean, so pardon my ignorance, but what exactly is what's an orange?
It's an orange cordial.
It's actually tastes good, but it's only, it's good when you mix it with something.
It is not good on its own.
I can't believe that you drank a cup.
Oh yeah.
It's, but you know, it was done properly.
Hey girl, go get me a grand.
I mean, Grammy was one of them, you know, you drink it a little warm.
They warm it up a little bit.
They take the mug and it's like, if it's cold, it's not so much.
Yeah, but they gave you cred for that.
They were like, Oh, I don't, I didn't care about.
He's hot.
I drank California coolers.
I did.
And guess what?
I got no credit for that.
You know, I, I didn't care about credit.
Not only did I not get credit for that, I got relentless shit for it.
Right.
And then finally I started drinking Captain Morgan.
That saved me.
I became the captain instead of, is your leg up on the chair and be like, Oh, no, I didn't.
No, but I drank the fricking wine coolers, man.
It was nasty.
Cause I wouldn't drink beer.
I hated beer, but yeah, I, I got like Canadian beer, but you know, I'm a Canadian, like a
LeBats like moose head and Moose head.
I've had that before.
Have you ever had keys beer?
I have the beer too.
Keith's beer.
Yeah.
It is actually made in Nova Scotia.
It's delicious.
How does it compare to like, what's different about Canadian beer versus more flavorful
alcohol content is Alexander Keith.
Alexander Keith is not beautiful.
So is it a, so it's a heavier, so it's a heavier beer.
It's not light at all.
Not light.
I think that's an American thing.
Is that not?
Cause there's not a lot of light beers in Europe and apparently there's not a lot of
light.
There's an advertisement that looks like you Canada.
So is that looking at my screen, Jeff, is that an American thing?
Light beers, light lagers?
Maybe it's gotta be right.
I think it started off.
Actually you can find Heineken lights now and in Europe, Genesee cream, ale light and
whatever.
Oh, so Alexander Keith's is an Indian pale ale.
How original?
Yeah.
I mean in Dartmouth, Nova Scotia.
Wow.
What, what is the proof on that?
Is it eight, seven?
I don't know, but it's not, it's definitely not the same as I mean, how much is this Miller
light?
What is the alcohol content on the 4.2 or point two?
It may be more.
That would be just fine.
You probably can't bring that stuff back with you.
I can't, but that's the Amber.
I was looking at the IPA.
Can you?
Yeah, you can bring a six pack.
That would be fantastic.
Yeah.
So if you go back and you want to come back on the podcast, bring a, bring one of those.
It's the only way I can come back on is no, that's not at all.
Well, you have to bring a bottle of bourbon too.
I totally will.
I got plenty.
So you cannot find that in the stores down here.
You cannot find Keith's and even Moosehead.
I just saw I'm a part of a Facebook group.
I'm a moderator on a group and someone had a Moosehead beer there in Colorado.
We can't find, you can't buy Moosehead here.
I used to feel to find it up in Ohio.
I recall used to having that here.
Maybe I was in them.
Unless things have changed.
I used to be able to, I don't know about here, but up in Ohio, I used to be able to see it.
You know what?
Maybe because I was on, I lived on military base.
Probably because you were in the garden state.
Oh yeah.
Yeah.
You probably, you probably imported it.
Yeah, I was important and I imported it.
So yeah, that happens.
Can you request?
I mean, can't you go to, you can't have them for.
So there are, they're, they're locked out.
So you got to be enrolled into like, what is the, the, the whiskey, the, the, the people
that bring you distributors.
God bless.
Yeah.
But what are the name of the distributors?
Benny Keith.
Yeah.
Like Benny Keith.
Right.
And you can only, why did you, why did you have a partial seizure when you said there
was an apostrophe?
Did you not see the apostrophe?
It's very important.
That was a seizure.
It was a Keith and the seizure.
That's an apostrophe.
I was acting out the apostrophe.
So what's the origin of an India pale ale?
Are those like Indian beers?
Like dot or feather?
Definitely not.
Dot.
So India, where, is that from like the country India?
I don't know.
No, she said not dot.
Well, how do we know this?
I mean, I don't know.
I don't know the answer.
I don't know.
Oh, the Indian pale ale.
You don't know.
The Indian pale ale originated in England in 18th century.
So there is probably an installation process.
So the need for a stronger beer, the British, the British East India Company needed a beer
that could survive the long voyage from England to India without spoiling.
It is Indian, Asian Indian.
The hot climate and limited preservation techniques made this a challenge.
So they upped the ANI on the alcohol.
So to preserve it for that long trip.
I love that I learned something new every time I listen to boys like us.
That is real.
And you know what?
I wonder if is there any Native American beer recipes out there?
I'm sure there are.
Did they?
Is that what something I don't want to say?
They did they master that?
But like an ale like Bud Light?
I don't think Bud Light would be in.
I would be curious.
Look that up, Mr. Producer.
See if there's any Native American beer recipe.
Mr. Producer, you have a lot of responsibility.
Not really.
Yeah.
If we could just keep him off his phone.
He just looks pretty and you guys do all the work.
Yes.
All right.
Yes.
Bow and arrow brewing company.
Oh, but link link.
God damn it.
What are you drinking?
What's the link?
Yengling.
God damn.
Yengling was like part of the originals.
I don't know.
It's like one of the first white beers, right?
European.
They said Native Americans also drank other alcoholic beverages.
Oh, Native Indians.
Native.
Yes, including Bolch.
Isn't that when your balls itch?
I don't think so.
Polk.
P-U-L-Q-U-E.
These are all forms of meads, I believe.
These are they've created root beverages using local ingredients such as sassarilla and sassafras.
Slow down to the one that said nine Native American breweries paving the path for beer.
That is interesting.
I wonder if we would recognize any of these.
Native American beers are brewed by indigenous communities.
It could be found at a variety of breweries across the United States.
There's Bow and Arrow.
There it is.
Bow and Arrow.
There's also Skydance Brewing Company.
Okay, hold on.
So slow down here.
So you got something in Albuquerque.
That was what was the one right above that?
Bow and Arrow.
Bow and Arrow is based in Albuquerque, New Mexico.
No shit.
The next time I go out there, I'm going to ask for a Bow and Arrow.
Located in Blue Lake, California is the Mad River Brewing Company.
The brewery is owned by the Wyatt people.
These are all Indian.
Wyatt?
W-I-Y-O-T.
I wonder if we can remember any of these.
I wonder if we can get these at Total Wine.
Broken Arrow.
Broken Arrow Brewing Company.
They have such a great selection.
Located in Broken Arrow, Oklahoma, the brewery is owned by the Osage people.
What was that, Jackie?
Sorry?
I said Total Wine has a great selection.
I know.
Of all those craft beers, maybe.
Shout out to Stan.
Shout out to Brian.
Shout out to Matt.
What's up, guys?
Yeah.
Just a random shout out.
Just a random Total Wine shout out.
Kevin, what's up, bro?
And what about Tom?
And Tom's the new guy.
And John.
What about our...
Shout out to Jody.
Thank you for meeting us out at the October 5th.
Plus, I had just left there, too, and you guys sent a picture, you know, hey, here we are
with Jody.
I'm like, damn it, man, that would have been so cool to catch up with her.
She just turned 69.
She looks amazing.
She was waiting for you to leave.
She's like, I was watching the crossway that Paul left.
She's like, I'm coming now.
She had her spectacles.
She was like, oh my God, I can see these stokes still there.
She waited for me to leave.
Yes.
Sean is so hot in his little leader cousin.
I don't think any of that happened.
Oh, wow.
I don't think any of that happened.
Oh, wow.
We have video.
We have video of you dancing.
Yeah, I wish you would delete that fucking video.
No way.
No, McKinney October 1st.
It was kind of, I.
You were there.
I must have come for the boring part.
You guys were just hitting at alcohol.
Oh my God.
I was ordering coffee.
It got turned up a fucking notch.
Oh, it did?
Oh, the dial spun off.
We were just like, it wasn't that bad.
Sean was shit faced.
Oh.
Is that when you were dancing around and you're leaping like 10 feet off the ground?
Oh, dude, man, I got a trampoline now.
So I was out there just like, I can fucking do this.
He can out jump anyone now.
He did.
Mini tramp?
I got one of those little four footers.
Yeah, yeah.
Dude, I'm all on that every day.
It was kind of weird.
Like everybody just kind of.
Who brought it?
Hopping up and down to the music.
Boom.
No, no, I didn't bring it out there.
It's at my house.
I mean, I've been training.
Specifically for polka.
I'm so glad that you clarified that you've been training.
I brought my I was waiting for the polka music to start as I one, two, three, hop, one, two,
three.
Oh, well, you guys are pretty close to the stage.
Yeah, we were.
It was actually a great spot.
It was a great spot.
So well, I say it was a great spot, but I mean, I felt like I had to walk to the end
of the earth and I'm like, oh, here's where the pretty people are.
Here they are.
Yeah.
Yes, we were.
Yeah.
Right there.
You walk by you're like, hi, second class citizens.
We're going to go inside.
It's fucking hot.
I tell you what, the polka band was pretty good.
Yeah, it was an excellent thing out there.
I got to share something with you guys.
Oh, so filtered downtown McKinney coffee shop.
I am no longer part owner.
No, we just we sold it.
That's fantastic.
That's a good thing.
I it is a good thing.
I'm a little I'm a little sad because it's a part of your life.
Yes.
Ten years.
Did you weep?
Okay.
So as a consumer, can I can I give you my take on as a consumer?
Absolutely.
I mean, it was a super cool space, but there was a lot of people behind the counter and
nobody could get my coffee to me.
Oh shit.
That's not good.
Yeah.
You still own it at that time.
Was it still up on the counter?
Took them a long.
They talked a lot to each other.
But I mean, beautiful.
I love the space.
I love how it's laid out.
Are you saying it was already made?
No, not getting to you.
So the service was slow.
It took a long time to get that.
What did you order, by the way?
I just ordered like an American.
I just like American.
I literally ordered a coffee with cream and sugar.
Oh, yeah.
That takes a long time to make.
A long time.
I was like, what are you?
Did you order anything else with that?
No, just the coffee.
That is so foul.
It's not yours anymore.
You have to worry about.
Yeah.
Well, my brother is technically the general manager still.
I will tell him a little bit.
Yeah.
I was a lot of people behind the counter because it was so busy that day.
There were so many people, but they were really talking to each other.
Yeah.
That's why it was busy.
Good to know.
I think it's probably better now that Sean's out of the mix.
Sean's out of the mix now, so I bet your customer service has improved.
Perhaps.
So the product was delicious when I got it.
I was in charge of that part.
So you go in and you're like, OK, well, the experience wasn't really great, but the product
is delicious.
So I'll come back.
You get over it.
Did you walk all the way to the back room?
I did.
Lovely.
What did you think of it?
I loved it.
That room is soundproofed.
Is it?
Not like 100 percent, but.
I built that room from scratch.
Dial it back there, Chico.
I don't know where you're going with that, but I'm just saying we record back there.
So we've got like sound insulation in the walls there.
I spent a long time and I'm proud of that place.
I was going to say, you're very proud of that.
What looked like was that sound room wasn't there anymore.
The mixing board wasn't there.
Say what?
Where that's his office now.
Where the control room was.
Oh yeah.
The control one's been an office for a while because we haven't done recording there since
Sam has left.
I like the color.
I like when you walked in, the atmosphere was really nice.
I love the stage.
I love the back part.
Everything about it was really cool.
Well, they're down.
They're down.
The person that purchased filtered is yanking a lot of things out of it.
Like they they they got rid of the art, like all the art on the walls.
It's gone.
I think it's unfortunate too, but they're like, it's not making this money out.
And because, you know, this local artist put their stuff on the wall.
That was kind of like the thing, you know, but whatever.
I mean, it's not mine.
I don't give a fuck.
But it is kind of like, damn, dude, really?
And then they got rid of all the music programs from what I understand.
So it's like, all right, well, we have a stage now and that's kind of part of the concept
of what we were doing.
But again, they owned it now so they could do whatever the fuck they want.
But it's at the same time, I'm like, God damn, you're killing my baby.
That's the way I feel about it.
The issue I had, which I could not understand that like six o'clock would roll around or
they got rid of alcohol, maybe seven o'clock would roll around.
Yeah, did they really?
Oh, they got rid of seven o'clock would roll around and they'd lock the doors.
I'm like, you know how many people came up and like, oh, damn, oh, damn, oh, I didn't
get that either.
I did not understand it.
I didn't get the crowd.
The street is packed with people.
They're there.
They've they stopped eating like two hours ago.
They're, you know, they're having some beer, but it's time.
It's time for coffee.
Yeah.
Well, I mean, I think it's what we call those missed opportunities.
I don't get it.
But, you know, based on the experience speaking to my brother, he was like, well, you know,
yeah, we could have sold some, but the majority of the people, probably 90 percent of the
people coming in simply have to be.
Oh, so they're trying to get rid of those people.
I mean, it's like, why are we open for 10 percent of the business?
OK, I get it.
I get that.
But at the same time, I'm like, dude, it's 10 percent.
I mean, 10 percent is better than zero.
Yeah, that's what I'm thinking.
But you know, again, I don't own it.
I don't care, you know, but people run things differently.
I, you know.
So do you have any connection with them at all?
You had said that we might still be able to do this or that or you might.
Well, I mean, I know my brother, so he's the general manager.
So at this point, he's cleansing it of the artwork and yeah, boards and he's going to
alienate like a lot of local people doing that.
Well, I mean, what whatever I mean, especially if that's what it's known for.
They're trying to strip it down and in and kind of they have a concept.
They own it now.
That's true.
I mean, you know, they have to have their own brand.
They're going to rebrand it.
They're going to do this.
Yeah.
And they may change a lot of it.
I mean, it's called filter currently.
I mean, they may change the name of it.
Who knows?
I mean, you know, the thing I want is like if if they do change the name of it and they
don't have the they don't want those F's anymore, the filter death.
Yeah, I want those.
I don't want those.
I don't want those going in the garbage, you know, because fuck man, that F all the way
in the back that you see through the front door.
I made that with my own fucking hands.
Right.
You know, that was that was a big deal.
And I would think that Desiree would want some of that stuff as she does.
She mentioned that.
Yeah.
As a just tell your brother, hey, if they want to re-yank that, we've already talked
to him.
But look, even if I don't get it, it is what it is.
I mean, it's it's it's a page that's turning and it whatever.
I mean, let it be someone the next part of someone else's chapter.
Yeah.
And the kid that's taking it over, he he's from what I understand, he's he's a great
kid and he said he's in the mid 20s and he's got a lot of inspiration and energy and he's
been in the he's been in the coffee business for 100 years, you know, at 20, 20, whatever.
I mean, I mean, it's like one of these kids that, you know, it feels like he's been in
the business for a really long time.
You know, that's pretty impressive in his mid 20s to be buying a coffee shop on his
own.
That's awesome.
Well, I mean, that's America, man.
It was a community purchase in his behalf, you know, getting into that's like the American
dream is the American.
It's a family.
I love that family support, right?
Crowdsourced.
Yeah.
Yeah, I love that.
I mean, it was basically it was a philanthropist that that that purchased it for him.
Oh, essentially, it still works.
So I need a philanthropist.
Me too.
Listen, I'll do whatever you need me to do.
So you know, we thought we talked about this angels.
We didn't talk about this.
Mike, would you say that?
So we hopped off of it really quick.
Well, yeah, we started to talk about it, but we didn't really talk.
Well, we talked about my grapes and we got into licorice and then we did.
And then welcome to our podcast.
I know.
That's what I'm saying.
Let's get back to it.
Yeah, let's get back to it.
All right.
Well, cheers.
Cheers.
So again, this is a bourbon aged in a rum barrel.
Caribbean rum.
As as as a double as a double barreling.
I feel like going on vacation when you poured it.
And I can tell you that there is one third of the bottle gone.
So that tells me all are generous drinkers.
We have to.
We pour two ounce pours.
And actually, I poured probably two and a half.
Yeah, I think a little shout, but it's delicious.
So so question was to now.
Is it Caribbean or Caribbean?
Yeah, well, it's potato potato.
You know, I don't say potato.
I say potato.
Let's go get some potatoes.
Why does that make me stupid or something?
It's kind of like everyone says that tomato, tomato, aluminum.
I don't say aluminum.
I say aluminum.
Yeah, no.
How about tomato, tomato?
Some people say tomato.
What do you say?
Tomato.
I say tomato.
The fuck?
Tomato.
I would like some mashed potatoes, please.
You don't actually say that.
Of course not.
I'd be mashed potatoes.
I would have some brown gravy with my mashed potatoes.
Mash your pot.
Poutine.
Yeah, I like the poutine.
All right.
Anyway, hold on.
So we were.
I think it's Caribbean personally.
I want to go with I don't like Caribbean.
No, I kind of like Caribbean.
Do you?
Because it may like I close my eyes and I'm like, ooh, blue water, white sand and Caribbean
doesn't give you that.
No.
Interesting.
So to me, parents of the Caribbean or parents of the Caribbean?
Caribbean.
It depends on where you come from.
To me, Caribbean is more phonetic.
All right, Mr. Producer.
Caribbean is kind of like, hey, I come down to the Caribbean.
It's kind of authentic.
You know, the Caribbean is kind of like something you're reading out of a digest.
There's only one way to solve this.
Mr. Producer is going to pull up the word and the definition and he's going to click
on the pronunciation button and then that's when we'll know.
I don't think this is the correct Caribbean pronunciation spelling.
It doesn't.
No, no, no.
You have to play it.
I don't know.
What are we on?
We're on Reader's Digest.
Remember those little books?
My mom used to get those.
Oh, she was great.
Yeah.
I like the I like the drama.
Yeah.
Remember the drama in real life.
Caribbean.
Bullshit.
Caribbean.
She said that with like an accent.
Yeah.
And you got British pronunciation.
Fuck the British.
Oh, sorry.
Oh, that was harsh.
Yeah, that's harsh.
I like Britain.
Caribbean.
There we go.
Aluminium.
So what's like the Moroccan?
Oh, God.
Really?
What?
No, no, no.
That's just a two.
What are you doing?
I was going to hear the American pronunciation again.
Caribbean.
Caribbean cruise.
OK, so in Canada, they say things like program and process instead of process.
And coach instead of couch.
OK.
You get a little nasal.
So do you guys follow the would you follow the British?
Right.
So south instead of south.
Right.
House.
So do you have a boot?
Instead of host.
Do you have a boot in your car instead of a trunk?
No, we don't call it boot.
We call it a trunk.
You pull out plants by the root.
I think that's like Kansas.
That's a Midwestern.
I know it is.
I've just thrown that in there.
We're root people.
I'm just throwing that in there.
Yeah.
So you're Caribbean because you're British version.
You know, we all love the Queen.
No, we don't.
We do.
She's dead.
No, she's not.
Which one?
Do you see how serious my voice turned?
Which Queen are we talking about?
Queen Elizabeth.
I thought this Queen's land.
I thought we addressed this on a prior podcast.
That I wasn't here for it.
Canadian.
So you guys celebrate that's Queen Elizabeth's land.
They love you.
Canadian is part of England, right?
Absolutely.
Yeah.
We honor the Queen.
What is going on here?
I mean, even she.
God bless our native Queen.
Dude, she's even on your queen.
She's on our bill.
Right.
On your bills and corn.
She's on everything.
Is she naked?
She could be.
Really?
When you close your eyes, she is.
Oh, wow.
So do your bills have King Chuck on it now?
How about Prince Andrew?
King Chuck.
Can you imagine?
I see on the queer dollar bill too.
I wonder what will happen when the Queen dies if the currency will change.
But it's beautiful.
I thought she did die.
She did die.
What's wrong with you?
She didn't die.
Queen Elizabeth?
Yes.
It is now.
No.
Yes.
She did not die.
What is wrong with you?
Queen Elizabeth died and is now King Charles.
You really don't follow the news.
I don't follow the news.
I'm going to Google it right now.
Let me get my phone.
No, no, Mr. Producer doing it for you.
That's the Queen Elizabeth.
Can you tell me?
You know, you're kidding me.
It was all over the news.
Listen, I told you I don't watch the news.
It's very depressing.
At the age of 96, she died for 70 years.
But you're a Canadian citizen.
How would you not know this?
Your family didn't call you and say we're devastated?
Her family's like, fuck off.
You support Trump.
Listen, don't wear that hat, girl.
That's what they said.
Oh, boy.
Yeah, I look cute.
I had on a white shirt and my hair and braids and a little Trump train hat.
I bet you looked amazing.
I did.
All right.
So yes.
Was it a thin white shirt?
2022?
Oh my gosh.
It's all right.
It's OK.
I'll just drink more bourbon.
Yes.
It'll make it all go away.
It does.
That's what we tend to find, too.
It's OK.
I have a little mental mind break.
You forget things.
You do.
All the time.
So we're talking about Angel's Envy.
We are.
Yes.
Let's see if we can get through this.
Yeah.
Delicious.
I hope in the podcast you play the music like four times just to be a smart ass.
Just the very beginning.
Celery seed for me.
Yes.
So I really am.
I'm nosing like a celery seed.
All right.
Let's get.
OK.
No.
OK.
I want to make sure.
This is maple sugar.
I can smell the honey.
I can smell vanilla.
I can smell the honey.
OK.
So in Canada we're all about the natural.
It almost tastes like the tastes like the very celery.
Who did we have last week?
Garrison Brothers.
Yeah, it almost tastes like the Garrison Brothers honey.
No.
I think I don't think so.
All right.
So this is the honey.
It's a hundred proof guys.
You've tasted her honey, right?
Garrison Brothers honey.
Lady Bird.
It's the only thing.
No, it's not Lady Bird.
It's Lady Bird is what we had.
No, no, no.
I'm not saying that.
They have a product called honey.
They do.
It's the only bottle I bought from them.
But there is no honey in it.
Yes, there is.
None of this.
No, it's OK.
I'm all about the bees.
Oh, good Lord.
Let's see.
So anything that has honey in it, I'm buying it.
I really want to see if we can get through this.
You think so?
All right.
Angels Envy.
Finished.
All right.
Here we go.
So what we're dealing with is a rye.
It's a hundred proof.
It's been it was aged in a white oak barrel, I would assume, and then finished in a
rum barrel.
And it is unique.
It is extremely unique to me.
I'll get rum, though.
I don't get rum at all.
I don't get rum, but it brings out something totally different than anything I have tried.
So I think what it does is that the rum is made with high contents of sugar.
And depending where they get those sugars from is it could be from anywhere.
I mean, Lily Colana's Jamaican rum is probably a darker kind of taste.
So I think what we're tasting that honey, I would I taste the honey as I think it is
that's the high content of sugar from the rum barrels.
Is this readily accessible?
Yes.
OK.
I am going to buy one for my collection.
Yeah, it is.
There's nothing.
I mean, it is absolutely outstanding.
Yeah, you need you need an Angels Envy.
Yeah, we got another one out there.
I think we have a cast right out there.
Yeah, I know you went.
But to me, I'm having a moment with it.
It is really, really good.
Who went meh?
Sean, you know, I do.
That's fine.
Do you think it went meh because it doesn't finish?
It doesn't finish.
Fantastic.
That's exactly why.
Yeah, I'm left with this this vacant caustic kind of rough ending.
I taste a lot of tea.
Don't you think it comes forward?
So so you drink it across your palate and it doesn't finish like, oh, my gosh, there's
a hug.
There's a something it does for me.
It just it it does.
It does.
I don't know.
I don't like it.
I feel like it comes back forward and then everything I tasted in the beginning is what
I taste in the end.
Yeah, I don't know.
Look, I think it tastes good.
I mean, there's there's parts of the experience that I really like, but it I don't like the
tail end of it.
The tail end leaves it kind of bitter and empty.
Oh, I don't get that.
Yeah.
I mean, I get bitter as it crosses my palate, but as it finishes, I don't get the bitterness
and it says it's well, this it says it's dry.
Yeah.
Where it just kind of disappears on you.
That's what I get out of it.
I don't want to kick it in the nuts.
I think it's good.
I mean, for what it is, it's a hundred proof.
And what's the price point?
I don't remember.
It was.
Yeah, yeah.
It was close to it.
It was ninety something bucks.
Is that because you have your name engraved on it?
No, that was free.
Those complimentary because we went to the class class.
Jeff and I held hands.
Yes.
Lots of hoagies and skip.
I love to skip everywhere.
Wow.
Yeah.
It makes everything different when you skip.
I think it would be for you.
But when they do it, like Sean and Jeff, you know, I could totally I could totally imagine
like video and having a video that so you're advertising the podcast.
We're skipping down the aisle of total wine and I'm standing in the back going.
Absolutely.
I'm not with them.
Right.
Exactly.
Yeah, I am not with them.
I think what we need to do is have a set of his and his trampolines and Jeff and I can
like jump on the tramp.
I don't think I don't think that would help either.
No, no.
So this this bottle.
I mean, look, we tasted this during the tasting and I loved it.
I'm telling you, I'm not in the same place I was during the tasting.
I'm not.
I mean, we could try other things in advance.
Yes.
We have some chicken wings to you had chicken wings.
I mean, there was an assortment of flavors, but you know, we drank like three or four
different or five or four or five.
Yeah, four.
Yeah.
Five.
I think there's five different angel envy products and they brought them all out.
Look, I'm telling you, that's tough.
It's not bad.
It's it's it's in a rum cask.
You know, I don't want to kick it out of bed, making me a turkey sandwich or something,
but it's.
I'm going to give it a I'm going to give it a six nine.
Yeah, I'm not giving it.
I'm not coming close to a six.
I'm like Monica Geller, seven, seven, seven, seven.
And yeah, I'm like, yeah, it's OK.
It's good.
Yeah.
It's and it's pretty.
Again, I love a great bottle.
All right.
So what are you giving?
Yeah.
But what are you giving?
Giving it a seven.
What are you saying?
I'm probably in the sixth range as well.
It's not overwhelming.
Like I don't go like, oh, my goodness, I need to go out and buy that bottle.
That's exactly what I need to have on my shelf.
Right.
If I had it, if someone gifted it to me, it'd be great.
Right.
But I'm not really quick.
I'm probably not buying the finish is just nothing.
Right.
Yeah, it's absent.
I disagree.
That's interesting.
Oh, that's all right.
Yeah.
But you don't like that.
The fray 100 percent wheat either.
So that's very and I'm sorry, but I loved it.
I did not.
I know.
I was right there with Sean, I think a six, seven for me on this.
Yeah.
Well, it's just it's the very first I like.
And it just it just goes away for me.
There's no finish on it whatsoever.
I've got nothing like it.
I felt like it came forward and then I wonder if that's the rum barrel that does that.
I usually like a rum finish.
I like it.
I love finished products.
I love Sherry Port.
I wonder how old this is because it looks pretty.
It's not super dark.
It's not.
I wonder what the age statement.
So by the way, that bottle that we have has a metal little medallion on there.
Yeah.
And I stole that.
Oh, good.
Off another bottle.
So that bottle comes from the bourbon, you know, but I was kind of like I'm spending
a hundred dollars on a bottle.
Sure.
I want the wings.
I'm taking the fucking wings.
I want the wings.
Nice.
I'm taking it.
In fact, the girl that engraved it, she was like, this doesn't belong on here.
I was like, bitch, just lay down there.
I'm not a say she really pointed out that it doesn't belong.
Yeah.
She said, Oh, that's funny.
I have an angels envy pork cask finish.
I've never cracked it, but I've had it and it's delicious.
Yeah.
There's lots of look.
I like angels.
I mean, this one right here is actually good, but it's just not it's not for me because
it's a hunter proof one to it's just like it doesn't finish well.
It's got a nice sweet taste to it.
It's great for sipping.
What Paul wants to do with it.
Are we going to mix it with Coca-Cola?
No, not at all.
Drink it exactly the way it is.
I actually like it a lot.
I would love to have it on my shelf.
I will struggle with a hundred dollar price tag.
I'll tell you that.
Yeah.
I will struggle with that.
I struggled with that too.
And I was like, Oh my God, you guys better fucking pay me for this.
Yeah.
You better.
I did.
I did purchase another bottle.
I got the heaven's hill.
So we've got you picked up the turkey.
You picked up the turkey.
That new turkey.
And I picked up the heaven's hill.
Which one was at the four grain grained a glass or something like that?
Yeah.
Great glass.
Right.
Yeah.
It it.
And Nelson, it was not very good.
Who said it was not very good.
No, not her name.
Nellie.
Yeah.
But she also said that we need a rating.
She says, yeah, but you need, if you have the podcast, you need to rate it.
Cause you almost put it down.
I did.
And I'm glad I did, but it was still 80, 90 bucks.
We may like it.
Yeah, so one of the experiences of being in the bourbon community is everyone will sample
out everything.
So lots of people will buy lots of products and they'll buy lots of bourbon to put on
their shelves, but they are more than willing to pour you a one or two ounce sample so you
can try it.
That's really how I've gotten everything on my shelf.
It's I've really tried before I could before I bought.
Right.
I'll tell you what.
So while we're talking about putting whiskeys and bourbons on the shelves, do we want to
dedicate a couple of minutes and chat about inexpensive stuff to put on your shelves that
tastes terrific?
Because I'm going to spout out our our our common ones that we like, like 114 Granddad.
Oh, that's delicious.
I would love to have this conversation because there are so many people that ask me when
I tell them we do a podcast and we go for bourbons, okay, they say what what what should
we buy?
And I'm like, shit, that's that's the challenging because you do all day long.
And believe it or not, benchmark, well, you know, the foolproof, the hundred twenty five
proof.
Oh, yeah, nothing else.
Nothing else they have.
I'm sorry, foolproof.
I mean, I apologize in advance, but the fool like the benchmark.
I love the foolproof.
It's delicious.
It's it's it's a standard.
I always have a bottle of foolproof.
I love the 114.
I mean, I've been drinking it.
And Paul doesn't like the foolproof, you said I didn't like it.
The first time I tried it.
Yeah, you need to let it.
It's not experience.
I like wild turkey 101.
So a wild turkey 101 I keep on my shelf at all times for anybody who just really doesn't
know about bourbon.
It's it's a staple.
Right.
Yeah.
And then rare breed is fantastic.
Yeah, but expensive in comparison for what it is for one of the.
It is one of my favorites, but you're at the fifty dollar mark.
If you're looking at the twenty five thirty dollar.
I mean, even some of the Evan Williams stuff, the bottled and bond, I'm not a big fan.
I don't really like the bottle that Bob.
You know, I bought that.
I bought that for my kids.
I was like, you really need to get into bourbon here.
Let me buy you a twelve dollar bottle.
Yeah.
So what else?
We got the foolproof, the old granddad 114 early times.
I just want to find it.
Yeah.
So very old Barton, you know.
Oh, yeah.
The bottle the bond version, I think is better.
What was early times was the purplish blue label label.
Right.
I haven't seen it on the shelves.
I haven't seen it on the shelves in a long time.
It's actually really, really good.
I have several bottles.
It's just one of those things.
You know, you know, you stockpile kind of like the O.G.D. 114.
I like it every day all day long.
I like to drink it by itself.
Very peanutty for me, but it's amazing in an old fashioned.
It's great.
So anywhere I go because it's inexpensive on the menu.
Isn't it?
It is.
When it's on the menu, it's I don't know, nine dollars or something.
So I'm always going to order an old fashioned.
So I'm not paying twenty four dollars for an old Forester single barrel.
Gotcha.
Yeah, I love old fashions.
I just stopped drinking them because of the high high content of sugar.
Sugar.
I make my own simple syrup.
It's delicious.
I make it a cinnamon simple syrup.
It's cinnamon, cinnamon, simple syrup.
You know what we need to do better?
I mean, it actually is a frustrating thing when I can't just immediately regurgitate
to somebody like what they should get.
We really need to bake.
We need to break it down by price point.
If you're looking for something that's forty dollars and less, forty dollars or less, it's
this.
Nine banded.
Forty to sixty.
Nine banded, white or black.
Preferably black.
Even like for starters.
Even like if you get the regular Buffalo Trace, that's an easy entry.
But you can't find that.
You can't find that.
Yeah, you can.
No, I can't find Buffalo Trace.
I'm with Sean.
We cannot say that to somebody.
If you want to go to Total Wine today, you want to go buy something today.
OK, we'll get Buffalo Trace.
It won't be there.
That's true.
The good thing about walking the aisles and being there pouring for other people, I get
to see what's there.
I just got an E.H.
Taylor.
I've never got, I've never bought an E.H.
Taylor small batch in a liquor store ever.
I've always traded for something, gotten something from somebody else.
Right.
And yeah, I paid.
Yeah.
So I'm talking about things that are like you could tell them.
Always there.
It may not be 100 percent, but should be 90 percent is there.
Yeah.
I have a lot of people that have a lot of bourbon experience to come in that tell me
Old Emler, which is a total Elmer Elmer Elmer Elmer Elmer.
And it's a weeded.
That's good.
We do whiskey.
And it's really a great price point.
It's under fifty dollars.
Right.
And it's the oldest wheat strain in the world.
Oh, nice.
Yeah.
The oldest wheat strain.
Yeah.
Old Elmer.
Yeah, we've we've seen Old Elmer.
Was it Emler?
No, it's Elmer.
Elmer.
It's a blue label.
It's good.
So even the cart next to me says only these samples are only available through staff.
I see.
That's Elmer T. Lee.
That's hard to find.
Yeah, I saw that on your show.
So maybe we are wrong.
What the hell?
Have you all had the blue run?
No.
Fourteen years.
Good.
No, I think it's old Emler.
Is it Emler?
E M M E M M L E R.
You better not be right.
There's two M's.
You better not be right.
I'll be pissed.
He usually is.
I mean, I have it in my phone.
There's Emmer with no L.
That's it.
Castring.
It's like forty five.
Emmer.
Yeah, that's what I said.
That's what we had.
It's Emmer.
Old Emmer.
I thought it was Elmer, but it is Emmer.
We tried that over at the total one.
Yeah, it was fair.
It was fair.
Definitely.
I wouldn't kick it out of bed.
Well, hold on.
Click on that again.
What's the proof of that?
It's cast strength.
I see that.
But it's nine year for forty five bucks a nine year.
Forty five.
Hundred ten proof.
Fifty five.
Damn, that's pretty good.
And they have it.
They have it on their sample cart.
So any time you go in, they always have it on their sample cart.
I tell you what, for a nine year cast strength, forty five bucks, that's a great proof.
They've got twelve year Rebecca's Creek.
They got the Russell's Reserve ten year bourbon.
They got Bardstown Bourbon Company, the origin series.
Rittenhouse Rye.
These are Suntory Toki, a reasonably priced whiskey that we enjoyed with cocktails.
Well, the Russell's is always good.
Oh yeah.
You can't go wrong with the Russell's Reserve.
I have a thirteen year.
How about Dickel?
Oh, you got a thirteen?
That's all right.
I don't mind Dickel.
I don't mind it.
I think the thing with Dickel is there's a lot of folks who don't like it because they
get that minerality out of it.
And that really turns some people off.
Have you had the old Dickel Tabasco?
Horrific.
I mean, delicious.
Isn't there, wasn't one of the go to's a thirteen year old Dickey?
Yeah, there was a thirteen Dickel.
I know.
Thirteen Dickel, that's really, really good.
That's really good.
How about the best cheap rye whiskey?
It's old overhauled bonded rye.
What's that?
Old overhauled.
I don't know.
O-V-E-R-H-O-L-T.
Producer.
I'm picking up some mint on this now.
Very smear minty.
Yeah.
Yeah, I got smear minty on the finish.
And the best cheap American whiskey is a Mikters US1 American whiskey.
Mikters is really good.
I'm serious about this.
We need to create a list.
Yeah.
Because it is, yeah.
We need to have it.
Do people ask you guys all the time?
Yes, we need to have it ready to roll off the tongue.
There you go.
I do not recognize old overhauled.
So it's the oldest community continually maintained brand of whiskey was found in Westover to
Pennsylvania, 1812.
I've never seen it.
Well, there you go.
Yeah, I've never seen it either.
It doesn't exist.
I've never heard of it.
Yeah, it's fake.
So not on the shelf, in other words.
It's misinformation.
Well, what it says is that it's really available and it's one of the cheaper whiskeys out there.
So what is a-
Cheaper or good?
Good and inexpensive.
Inexpensive and good.
Okay.
Yeah.
What I see week after week is a lot of makers, a lot of Jack Daniels.
Everyone thinks like, I worked in a bar for several years and people come in and they're
order a drink and they're like, I'll have a Jack and Coke, but they're actually getting
well whiskey and Coke.
But Jack and Coke is like the Kleenex of the tissue.
Right.
So when I'm at Jack and Coke, it needs to be Jack and Coke and you can tell.
I absolutely can tell if it's Jack versus well.
Yeah.
I can tell everything.
I can taste licorice in here now.
Oh, at the tail end.
That's twice.
Just black licorice or the red licorice?
No, it's probably the red or green licorice.
It's the black.
That's the black.
It's the one that they chop up on the pipe.
Red licorice, green apple.
Have you ever had green apple?
Well, it's a pipe that they cut up and mash and then they stick in there.
I'm totally going to bring you all some Canadian licorice.
Yes.
Nice.
There's also a pastry in Canada called.
What the heck is it called?
Donut?
Oh, Tim Hortons.
Do you know they're opening at Tim Hortons in Flower Mound?
Really?
Jeff is called Donut.
Oh, Donut.
Donut.
They're opening at Tim Hortons.
There's one in Houston.
They're opening one in Capelle and there's nothing like a Tim Hortons coffee.
Tim Hortons was one of my big customers.
I bought a shit ton of, you know, the dildos.
Yes, a bunch of dildos that they put in there.
Tracy dog.
Give her that.
The displays that they put the menus up.
So all those all those displays, the cruller, the honey stick.
I've never been to a Tim Hortons.
And you haven't?
No.
It's like a whole nother experience.
Well, when I go to Toronto, but I don't drink coffee.
So I know they're all over the place up there and they're starting to move.
South.
They are.
So Flower Mound.
They're supposed to they were supposed to have it spring of twenty twenty four.
So I'm not sure what the timing is of that.
All I know is whatever the opening day is, I was standing in line.
And it's different than Starbucks.
It's good that it has more, I believe, doesn't it?
Yeah.
Tim Hortons is not all the fruity stuff.
It's not all the syrups and all that stuff.
Right.
Coffee, double cream, double sugar.
Good to go.
Good.
Yeah, I don't drink coffee, but but their donuts are amazing.
Right.
The honey cruller, the honey stick.
The bear claw.
We don't have the bear claw.
Yeah.
Apple fritter.
That wasn't my favorite.
I think it's an American.
I think a bear claw is American thing.
I don't know.
Yeah.
Mine is always the blueberry donut, the blueberry cake donut.
Oh, yes.
That's my favorite.
And then just the regular coconut on top of the chocolate.
Who are you?
Are you referring to donuts and pastries?
That's why you like old Williamsburg.
I want the maple.
I love coconut.
Maple donut.
It doesn't matter if it's the long John.
You guys have lost your ever loving minds.
We have?
Over maple donuts.
So we did rate this Angel's Envy, right?
Yeah, I said a six.
You said a six what?
Six nine.
I was a six seven.
I said seven, but nobody asked me.
Oh, you're pretty though.
So.
Hey, look, a dude's like this moment here.
I know we're dug into this topic here, but I want to do a hard left.
I want to talk about.
He usually doesn't do that.
He just does it.
He does.
Yeah, I do.
But I want to preface this first.
But look, Paul brought up something that that's got me kind of upset.
Kind of.
You were talking about the voting.
So we had early voting that started in Fort Worth.
The people were voting for early voting.
And Paul wants you to elaborate.
Yeah, somebody sent me an article and said, well, they just sent me the article.
No comments.
And I read it and it is in Tarrant County, which is Fort Worth.
It is at an elections polling site or an election voting site.
Somebody put in their vote in the electronic thing and it spit out the paper thing and
they looked at it and it did not match what they voted.
So they put in Trump on the on the electronic screen.
The paper said Harris.
Oh, and they said, yeah, what the fuck type of thing.
And they looked at it and they're like, yeah, OK, this is avoided.
Yeah, there's something wrong.
We're going to avoid that or whatever to other people.
Same thing.
And the and even the Tarrant County elector, you know, electoral.
Right.
Said, yeah, we there is a problem.
We're looking into it, dude.
And that is a problem that just start that you test these machines before you.
I mean, come on.
Obviously there's something going on.
I mean, it's and I'm just like, really don't start.
So with technology, I literally today went online to Amazon.
I ordered two tablecloths.
They will be delivered to my doorstep at nine p.m.
You're telling me that voter registration cannot be that simple.
It is so simple.
How could it not be?
I mean, because it's corrupt.
You go to Chick-fil-A.
I mean, why don't we just everybody votes through Chick-fil-A?
Like I drive through the drive through.
I say, here's what I want.
Here's my voter registration card.
I want the pimento cheese chicken sandwich.
That's a vote for Trump.
Have you ever?
I mean, I'll be honest with you.
I really haven't got a wrong order from Chick-fil-A in three years.
So here's the thing.
Here's the sick thing about it.
They probably have done they whoever they is have done the numbers and they say probably
seven percent of the people check their paper ballot.
Yeah.
Right.
Who checks their receipt?
No one.
No one checks their paper ballot.
No one checks their receipt.
My question is this.
Probably a very low percentage.
Why would you do this in Texas?
They can slip it in.
Because if Harris wins Texas, that would raise a lot of flags.
You do that in Pennsylvania.
In the swing states.
You don't do it here.
Just like if they did it in California and Trump was getting all the votes.
Maybe.
What the fuck?
Maybe.
It's alarming.
And I'm kind of curious if this is even going to populate in some of the news organizations.
So if they're going to talk about this.
I mean, what?
I don't.
I so don't trust this.
This is so fucking dishonest.
It's sickening.
And you know, just like you said, you can order anything and everything from Amazon and you
get it.
It's right.
Everything is perfect.
Why?
The thing is, is that they can be done, but they are fucking with it.
The problem is, is each state controls their process.
Well, people can be shot.
There is no standard.
They're in the middle of the fucking square of every town and shot if they find out that
they're.
Dude, look, this is voter fraud.
This is bullshit.
You are controlling people's lives.
You know, they've got those.
I mean, who the fuck voted for 200 billion dollars to go to Ukraine?
Sure the fuck wasn't me.
You know, that stuff pisses me off.
We have these people in there.
And you know what?
If our vote doesn't mean jack shit, then fuck you.
Okay.
Anarchy.
I mean, really.
I want you to really share how you feel.
I don't feel like you're really so wrong.
This is so this is the beginning.
This is goddamn the end of October.
We haven't even started yet.
I know the shit's happening.
That's why it's not going to be.
This is not going to be solved until December.
Oh, yeah.
It's going to be 90 days before we know who the president is.
Stupid.
If crazy.
It's not going to.
I'm not saying it's not going to be who, who, uh, the, the majority of the room.
I don't know.
I sure hope so.
It just is.
I'll tell you what, the last time it was so shady, man, when I, when I, when I went to
bed, I was like, damn, like it's, it's done.
It's over.
Way to go, Donald.
Yep.
And then in the morning I was like, uh, what the fuck?
There's no way.
And they literally, and they were literally like, it's statistically impossible.
That kind of bullshit.
And I was like, don't do this again.
Not again.
We can't do this again.
It's country.
We can't handle that.
I can't handle it as a, as a single woman in the United States of America.
I can't handle it.
I know.
Right.
I really want to move home to my parents' house and live in their basement and drive
a really nice car.
But they have a lot of snow.
Yeah.
I feel like, I feel like it'll be worth it.
What's your idea of a really nice car?
I don't know.
Better than what I drive.
Like a four wheel drive?
Yeah, totally.
Super rude.
You have to out there.
I don't want a Subaru.
Why?
I mean, I have long red hair.
I don't want to drive a Subaru.
I feel like that's for the short hair girls.
You want the Tesla truck.
That wear the practical shoes.
You want the Tesla truck.
Hey, look, look, look, look, look, look, look.
We want to thank you.
Sincerely.
Yeah, it's been great.
We had a great time with you tonight.
It's been fantastic.
Well, you're welcome to come back anytime.
We just got to put it on the calendar.
Come back if you want to bring a friend.
And look, we got an empty seat over there.
It's all lonely.
Yeah.
So I'll shout out to Nellie because I will bring Nellie back next time.
There you go.
Would be super cool.
She's a firecracker.
She'll bring bourbon and she'll wow you.
I mean, she doesn't have to.
I mean, we've got bourbon, but she brings some graciously, except for that.
But you have to bring a six pack of Canadian cheese.
Alexander Key's.
That's my only condition.
Absolutely.
And black licorice pipes.
Look, guys, it's October 22nd.
The finish or the finale of the second half of the dudes podcast.
Mr. Producer, thank you.
Thank you, Mr. Jack.
Miss Jackie, our guest here.
Dudes like us.
I'm Sean.
I'm Paul.
I'm Jeff.
Jackie Ray.
Check us out on Facebook and Instagram.
Dudes on Coast dash podcast.
Dudes on Coast dash.
Fucking woodcraft.
I can't think of it.
We out.
Good night, guys.