It's horrific.
Horrific?
Yeah.
I'll tell you later.
Shit, you took a dick?
No.
You're underwear?
No, the story about the bourbon we're trying.
They shared a horrific story.
Someone fell in?
No, I won't tell you.
I will save it.
But when we talk about the bourbon.
OK.
They found a velociraptor inside one of the barrels.
Yes.
No.
And that was an amazing single barrel, yes.
Dragon egg, unicorn.
It is a.
This used to be a unit.
We'll talk about it.
Stay tuned.
We've got, oh, guys, welcome to the podcast today.
It's August 27th, and we're super excited, always super
excited to get in here.
Brunous is here.
He started strong with school this week.
Yeah.
Worked as jammin'.
Jeff's not working, but he's still jammin'.
Jammin'.
I can't wait for.
Are you busier now than ever?
Yeah, it seems that way.
It does.
It's crazy.
Because you have time to do things.
I know.
And so you do them.
Every time I call, he's like, oh, what does he want?
I'm the allergy in the bathtub.
Dude's like, I'm Sean.
I'm Paul.
Yeah, I'm Jeff.
I will say Steven also started his fire academy on Monday.
Oh, excellent.
So he's excited about that.
He's driving out to Corinth every day.
And his first day, basically, they
were the teachers, the professors, or whatever,
the instructors were saying expectations.
And they're high expectations.
Yeah.
He is.
It's a really sought after profession.
Yeah.
And it's, I want to say military, but there's, or police,
but there's aspects of that as far as rank.
And they have to stand at attention when the officer comes in.
Absolutely.
And.
Well, when you got people's lives like that at stake,
you're going into a disaster area.
And your job is to.
Yeah, there's a hire.
You got to follow the books.
Chain, chain of command.
There are all kinds of things that can happen.
You know, bringing up police officers
where they accidentally pull out, you know,
a gun instead of a taser.
You know, it's just like you got to pull the right tool
out for the right job.
And man, you got to be trained, trained, trained, trained.
You got to be muscle memory when you run into a place.
Because all your buddies are counting on you.
Yeah, he said that the, the, the butt was kind of puckered yesterday
as they were kind of going through it and.
Talking about some past things, he said, he goes, we are never late.
He goes for every second that someone is late.
It's one rep of whatever exercise I choose.
Oh, wow.
He goes one time.
We can't remember the, the, the exercise he did.
We did 1700 reps.
Because somebody was because someone was late.
Wow.
We entered the class and we did them all day
and we went into the next day.
Wow.
Now what, now is this, is this a weed out?
I said, I know it's highly sought after, but are they expecting,
I mean, do they have a hundred people in the program
and they, and they say that only 70 are going to make it?
Is it that kind of thing?
Possibly, because he said that on the first day he goes,
if you don't want to be here, quit, we'll give you all of your money back.
Right.
If you do it tomorrow, a little more money, you won't get as much.
Prorated type of thing.
He goes, so if you don't want to do this,
now is your time to tap out.
So did you son walk off?
He did.
He's like, fuck this.
No, no, he has to be here at 730.
Fuck that.
He volunteered to be a group leader.
So they broke into groups.
So he's responsible for five, six, seven guys.
Awesome.
Right.
So he has a rope that's specifically colored to designate his whatever.
Good for him.
Showing leadership.
Yeah.
And he goes, he goes, yeah.
He goes, I was going to do the entire class leader, but he didn't sell it very well.
Right.
Like he said, they're going to hate you and well, not just that, but you are held
responsible for if anybody fucks up in the class.
Yeah.
I mean, they're they're trying to groom.
Yeah.
They're not really called officers, but I mean, there are fire chiefs and there's fire.
They have leaders.
Yeah, they have leaders.
They are.
It is like a small military.
Yeah, it's like a small army.
I mean, you've got, you know, the emergency medical services attachment to it.
You've got guys that in charge of maintenance.
Right.
You've got the driver of the fire truck.
You got to participate in all these fire drills, determine the cause of the fire.
You got to respond to the alarms quickly.
Community service, manage the incident scene.
So you got these fire inspectors.
Yeah.
And these are all you're saying these are all like a farm and duties and responsibilities.
Yeah.
But these are like a fire station.
Yeah.
But then you got people that are arson.
Right.
I mean, the investigators.
Yeah.
The science and they're like, they're not in the fire.
They're not in the station.
Are they in like a corporate fire?
I think so.
It's all wrapped up in the same thing.
I mean, it's the chiefs.
You know, it's like the generals of the sorry, the sort of army.
A cool job to go into, though, like going to assess whether or not it was arson.
And like, you have to look at the accelerants that were used and you study the fire and the flame.
And that would be fascinating, I think, kind of like forensics, you know,
they had a movie like back draft or something.
You know, there's a science to that when they're trying to figure out who that arsonist is.
And he's creating this back draft.
Oh, that was a great movie.
That was Kurt Russell.
Right.
I don't remember.
There was a Ron Howard movie.
That was one of his first ones that he directed.
I think it was good.
You know, and there was a science.
I didn't have to visit that again.
That was a good movie.
Yeah.
And the cinematography with the flames was.
Oh, it gets sucked in.
Oh, it was badass.
Yeah.
Very, very good movie.
Yeah. He said that he has a physical test tomorrow.
He missed the original one because he was ever in Spain and getting engaged.
So he's doing his tomorrow and he has to, you know, he told me what he has to do.
And I was like, yeah, I couldn't do that right now.
You know, it's he has to go up nine flights of stairs carrying all the carrying 75 pounds
or something like that.
And then on his last one, he has to pull up a hose.
They have to do that now.
They're starting out the program that way.
Yeah.
Oh, damn.
I figured they jump in head first, man.
I figured they build up to that.
No. Well, his final that's not heavy.
You should some of the ones are heavier.
Yeah.
Well, his final exam is more intense.
Sure. OK.
And he's got time limits.
And I don't remember what they were.
He has to run two miles within, I don't say 14 minutes.
Damn.
And I don't know what it is, but it was something he could do.
But he's like for every 30 seconds or 10 seconds or a minute that you don't hit,
it's 10 points off your grade or something like that.
Wow.
You know, I think sometimes firefighters get a bad rap because, you know,
they have an incredibly flexible schedule, right?
They they're like three days on and four days off or so.
And they make it sound like they're just kind of hanging out in the fire station.
I've never heard them having a bad rap.
No, I mean, because, you know, because they're all just hanging out in the fire
station, like, you know, playing video games and whatever.
And is like, I mean, I don't say it's Kush because it's not.
I mean, it's like going to boot camp.
You know, when you first start off,
it is super stringent and then you have to maintain it.
Their C.E. sort of speak is nonstop.
And that's what I was going to ask.
I mean, because, you know, I I've never heard of I mean, I'm saying they do or don't.
I just never heard of them having a rigorous maintenance program, you know,
where they're like, you know, staying in tip top shape.
I would imagine they'd have to write.
I mean, you never know what the hell they're going to be fighting.
Right. There's probably physical exams every year you have to pass.
For sure. You see these fire chiefs that are just fat pieces of shit.
It's I have a fucking you pass anything.
You're going to climb up a ladder. What are you doing?
They don't have to.
The driver is up to climb up in the seat back off.
Yeah, I don't know. I don't know. It's interesting.
Well, yeah, I don't know all of those details yet, but I'm sure I will.
I'm sure everyone's got their own job.
I mean, there are jobs for everybody.
Like, you know, you don't have to go out.
You could be a fireman, but you don't have to be on the truck with an ax or a hose.
I mean, you could be a fireman from the hey, my job.
I'm a fireman. My job is to take care of the truck.
Yeah, my job is to make sure that the fluids are all up to par.
The hoses are folded in there perfect.
Yeah. And by the way, I'm on retainer.
Yeah. I say that because I've seen cops that are not in shape.
Right. I mean, shouldn't they be in tip top shape just like firefighters?
I mean, but maybe they got to chase people across the parking lot and shit.
Don't they?
Well, it is. But is it a matter of not as many applicants?
So they have to just like the military is their lowing standards.
So they're like, you're allowed to be one hundred and fifty pounds overweight.
But that's it. You know, it's interesting when you compare the that
D.I. concept to to the fire, the policeman, you know, that hasn't really
translated over into the fire department.
I don't see that. I mean, do they do D.I. in the policeman?
Well, I mean, I think so.
I think the first one maybe want to be one maybe in some states
and some cities worse than others. Right, of course.
Yeah. But the more states and blue cities, right?
Moreover, it's like for some reason, I think with firefighters,
they're putting their foot down, saying, Hey, man, you you could be a female or not.
But you need to carry that fucking one hundred pound bag up the ladder
and then run down the stairs and then do it again.
You know, so there's a physical expectation.
You got to pick up a fellow firefighter and get him out of the fire.
I think he said there's about 40 students in this.
Two of them are women.
Right. Yeah. As long as they can. Yeah, absolutely.
Bootcamp is bootcamp.
There's some bad ass women out there, man. He said he said one.
He said they're both after one day.
You really don't know.
He goes once I'm sick, a real big badass.
I should be. Hell, yeah.
I mean, you got women in the Marines and they're for real.
Right. So I mean, I don't know.
Interesting. Speaking of D.I.
Well, have you heard the latest on the Starbucks?
You always know his name.
Robbie Starbucks. Robbie Starbucks.
If you listeners, if you have not latched on to this guy's name,
you need to remember it. Robbie Starbucks.
He has launched this campaign to go sniff out
D.I. and woke, you know, policies and stuff in like American icon companies
and the harm it is doing to the company and to the morale
and just to the company itself. It's it's not.
It's not.
I don't think it represents America when they implement some of these things.
Yeah, it's going against the very nature of capitalist and ambition.
Instead of choosing the best, you choose the check box.
Right. Right. And so so he started out by going after but like
he started the but like thing, right?
No, I don't think so.
I think Dylan Mulvaney started well, but like I think.
Well, maybe he made.
I think he ran a campaign here, something about it to kind of just expose
what the the whole what the fuck they're doing.
I think he may have jumped into it after that whole thing.
It was definitely after maybe it was after maybe that's where he got to start
and his idea of I need to start exposing all this shit.
Yeah, I'll start dragging the calls.
Yeah, you're right, because in his text, he said he was three for three.
So the three for three were the John Deere, the tractor supply.
And then now Harley Davidson, Harley Davidson.
So he has exposed all three of those, but it's doing way more than that now.
Now it has spooked companies that may be next.
Yes. And so already Loes has come out and said, oh, we're not doing this.
Jack Daniels has come out and said, I will we're we're we're killing our D.E.I.
program. It's this is a good, good thing because we need to get back to merit based
hiring, right? And it doesn't matter.
You know, we've talked about, you know, you know, it doesn't matter what your
color of your skin is or what your background is or what your education is.
It all it all comes down to your merit, right?
Whether your parents are Indian or Jamaican, it doesn't matter.
Doesn't make a difference.
Jamaican. Anyway, I think what he's doing is good.
And I think the more press it gets, the more whistleblowers are going to come forward.
Correct. That's what's happening.
People are from the company are coming out.
We are sick of it.
Yeah, they're reaching out to him and saying, look at the bullshit that we're
having to do, you know, I saw some very, very, very encouraging.
I saw some footage of the guy who used to do who started Project Veritas.
I can't remember the guy's name.
Yeah. But he was interviewing or one of his little
I don't know, spies, but Crenshaw, something Crenshaw.
I can't give him the guy's name.
No, it doesn't matter.
But he used to he started Project Veritas and they kicked him out.
Because I think they infiltrated somebody infiltrator that ended up kicking him out.
Anyway, there were some allegations of something.
Yes, he was spending money that he should.
Anyway, he did Disney.
So it was a James O'Keefe.
Yes, yeah, James O'Keefe.
That's it. And I saw videos where he's doing the Disney
and he had a producer on hidden camera.
He was. Yeah, they're always hidden camera.
Well, it was some lady kind of not interviewing him, but, you know,
asking him pointed questions about this stuff.
And he was basically saying, yeah, we don't hire white males.
Point blank. And she goes, well, how do you do it?
He goes, this guy is a white guy.
Right. He goes, because they tell me
we will not accept a white male for this position. Right.
And she asked, she goes, any any any came out in the mid he goes, he goes,
and I'm actually feeling the effect of that.
He goes, I'm pretty much maxed out.
If I want to go anywhere, I have to leave the company.
Absolutely. I can't promote him ever.
Yeah. So there's these he was on the he was on the on the TV show side,
where he would they would he would help hire actors or actresses
or producer, assistants, all those people. Right.
So he was part of that.
And he said that they want the image
of that minority sitting in the conference room with them. Oh, yeah.
More than any kind of participation.
They just want that person in there so they feel better about it.
And it looks it looks it's good for optics.
It looks good, but.
They that person may not add anything.
Yeah, they may be horrible and they may be a horrible leader, which, you know,
you, you know, you've heard before people don't leave a company.
They leave a boss. Correct.
So if you have a if you're putting horrible people that are unqualified
into leadership positions, I mean, you're just degrading morale.
You're degrading team efficiency.
You're degrading talent. Yeah.
So I mean, if I read from the inside out,
if you if you want to go go look at the James O'Keefe, he has him up on
Twitter or X, whatever you want to call it.
And their videos, some of our long,
there's little snippets and everything like that.
They're shocking, though.
It just pisses you off.
I know that it's just happening all over the place.
Yeah. And it's just so blatantly racist.
Illegal, blatantly illegal and illegal.
Yes. Correct.
We have we have legislation that is it is not allowed.
And I think that came up and I can't remember that came up as a question.
I was like, well, how do they do this? That's illegal.
He goes, yeah, it's illegal. He goes, but.
Nobody's doing anything wrong. How do you prove it?
Because the DOJ is woke. Right.
They're not going after that. Yeah. So.
So my my previous company sent out an email saying, we're hiring,
you know, do you know anybody that wants to come on board?
And then in the footnote at the bottom of the email, it's it said what they prefer.
And it's all, you know, people of color.
Yeah, they said, please don't.
They basically said, please don't have any white males apply.
Is that what it said basically without saying that?
Well, I think I think it pretty clear.
I think I think it kind of did say that.
So if you took a picture that sent it to Robbie Starbuck.
Oh, he'd go after us for sure.
That's that's that's illegal.
Probably should Senior Vice President and Team Lead
20th Television, the Walt Disney Company.
He's high up and he's screwed.
He can't go anywhere from there. Yeah.
I think it's I think what he's doing is very necessary.
Do you think it's dangerous for him?
Yeah, the Starbucks guy.
You think at some point somebody is like, I'm not saying put a hit on him
or anything like that, but like, well, what I'm surprised with is
because because these liberals are psycho, they'll hunt him down.
They'll they call him Docs.
And right, they figure out where he lives trying to expose him
in every way, shape and form.
Right. They'll scare him.
What they'll try to do is if he's self-sufficient, you can't do that.
Right. But if he's working for somebody,
they'll pressure to fire him, you know, they'll pull all kinds of stops out.
They'll threaten kids. Oh, yeah. His kids, his wife, his shit like that.
So could they do that? Possibly.
Except the whole words and buzzwords that are used to explain what this
that they're looking for.
Go back to the beginning.
Like, certainly there have been times where, you know,
there's no way we're hiding away now.
But it's kind of unspoken.
There are times when it's spoken, but how would they say it?
No way we're hiding or what it's going to be.
Like straight to you or OK.
They'd be very careful how they message that to the agents.
We wanted to hire somebody in the department a few years ago now.
Did they fire this guy? You think get this was half black,
but didn't like here.
And there was a creative executive who was like, we're not like that's not
that's not what's right.
They wanted somebody in meetings who would hear a certain way
and he wasn't going to dark enough. Correct.
Unbelievable.
Saying that there is a.
Acceptable code words and buzzwords that are used to explain what this
that they're looking for.
They might say something like, you know, we're not we're not looking at
like the usual suspects for this job.
You know, the writers and actors here all the time are like,
you know, looking to hire writers and actors
who bring diversity and I'm not looking to bring on.
Wow. And so we have a diversity.
Crazy. So. Clues in.
Yeah, I mean, there's more of it.
And she keeps digging and he keeps talking about it.
Right. So he seems kind of a little toasty.
It's probably why he's loose lipped.
It may be.
But like I said, he also gets into where he's basically tapped out at that.
Now, I'm like for sure, because they won't put me into anything
higher because I'm a white guy. Crazy.
Well, it's happening everywhere, I would imagine.
More, more, more places than we care to care to to know.
Well, I think Robert Jack Daniels was another big one.
I think that I didn't even know they I'm sure that DEI,
but you just don't think of a whiskey joint having the DEI thing, right?
But apparently they did.
So they they backed out and I will tell you.
Yeah, like they're shutting down different businesses
and like Yellow Rose is one of them.
You know, they shut down their their storefront in Houston, Texas.
Now, I think they still have the Yellow Rose distillery.
I mean, there were stuff there was stuff there.
So maybe there was more than one location,
but they're shutting that one down and said on their meme or their Instagram
that, hey, we're in order to kind of tighten up their responsibilities.
Financially, they're shutting this down
because that place just doesn't make any money.
And that's kind of the sound of the times we talked about that
in the last podcast with a couple of local bar venues shutting down.
Just different business. I think that's what's probably different.
For I don't know if 1845, if they live there.
I'm sorry. I forgot about the angle.
We were talking about go woke, go broke.
That's what the the angle was.
And I was referring to that place, the Yellow Rose place in Houston.
They're there.
Yes, they did. They do tons of drag and trans people there.
And look, Drex, it just to me.
Do you think that factored in to it?
Man, I don't know.
Do you guys like hanging out of places that have a lot of trans shows going?
Well, you've been there. We haven't been there twice,
but they've never had a show when I was going on.
But that's not the point. My point is, is that who does that?
What what business does that?
Right. Business model.
Exactly. Yeah.
And why and why is that such a priority?
Like it doesn't have to be a priority.
There's so many people.
I mean, are you are you trying to attract only the gay people?
No, the trans people.
No, you're trying to check all the boxes of being a virtue signaling.
So you don't get yelled at by company by the Twitter.
And I and I respect that.
Do what I don't.
Business. I mean, I don't expect that that they can do it because it's their business.
They could do whatever they want.
They're going to reap what they what they sell.
And because they checked that box, the some of the people are kind of like,
I don't want to associate myself with that type of stuff.
I wonder if that's the case.
Oh, you know, so you don't know for sure if that's the case.
Oh, of course not.
But we do know that their sales are down.
Sales are down and they've obviously did layoffs.
Right. Yeah. Well, I don't know.
I mean, that whole place is shutting down.
So I'm assuming everyone that worked there is no longer working there.
And if they are cutting costs to the point where they're shutting down their
store, their showroom, which is a great avenue for for selling their product
and getting the word out for their product, they're hurting.
I can promise you that they're hurting.
So, you know, you wonder if it is the go, go, go broke.
I don't know. I hope it is.
I hope it is from the fact that, you know, these these these people that.
Want to instill in others in their lifestyle, I think it's inappropriate,
you know, and they could probably flip the coin saying, well, you want to instill
your values on ours, on us with God and peace and gun and guns and American pie
and baseball and tacos and the flag.
So, so here you go.
Due to the recent bad weather and hurricane, we have found damage to the
Yellow Rose Experience Center.
Oh, damn it.
The Yellow Rose Experience Center will be closing from September 1st
until further notice.
Do we apologize for the inconvenience?
Man, they didn't say any of that in their little note.
Did you get, did you get bamboozled by TikTok again?
No, I wasn't.
This was this was Instagram and it was their post.
Right.
So they said the same thing, but they didn't say the why part of that.
Well, that's a whole different.
Why, two weather damages or exposure.
Yeah. Well, that makes sense.
You know, I was there.
I didn't see any issues going on.
Well, that was before you were down there because of the weather.
Yeah.
Both times.
So whatever, man, there was a lot of unsavory things that occurred in
Houston, Texas from that derecho to hurricane burl.
God bless.
I'm still dealing with a bunch of people that still have their lives turned
upside down because of Mother Nature.
I think just, yeah, or just another reason I went one way.
Just another reason I wouldn't want to live in Houston just because
they're not far enough from the coast.
They get sacked, you know, like it seems like once every five years, bad.
Yeah.
Happens down there.
It was a flood.
What was the big flood?
What was that?
Was that Harry or something like that?
Hurricane Hanna.
50 inches of rain in two or three days.
That was ridiculous.
It was bad.
That was ridiculous.
And that, you know, not to mention is just your round humans, man.
I lived there for four years.
It wasn't.
Yeah.
It's a nutsack.
I don't enjoy it.
I mean, the time I was there was, was I didn't enjoy being outside.
You know, I didn't really hang out with a lot of people.
Most people I met were whatever they're probably fine.
Yeah.
That's just the area I think is just it's dilapidated.
A lot of business have gone out.
There's a lot of homeless.
That's the top.
It's in the top five largest cities in the U.S.
I know it's huge.
It is.
And it's been under Democrat control for quite a while now.
There's, there's garbage everywhere.
It's just, it's, I don't know where the police are.
There's crazy drivers everywhere.
And I, you know, they're like, well, Dallas is just the same.
I think Dallas is worse.
I'm like, yeah, no, no, I mean, I drive in Dallas.
I'm one of those guys, you know, they have a different style of driving down there.
And it's not like Dallas.
We kind of, at least me, I'm a little of aggressive, perhaps, but those guys are just aimless.
Right.
I mean, they're driving down just, it's just dangerous.
And so I get out of their way.
Interesting.
I've actually haven't been down to Houston often.
It's been probably 15 years since I've been down to Houston.
Yeah, we used to have, I mean, in college, it was two guys from Houston, two guys from Dallas.
That we room together in an apartment.
I take that back.
And we always battled Houston, Dallas, Houston, Dallas.
Now, Julie went down because Brandon visited the University of Houston on a football trip.
On a scouting trip.
Yeah.
I went to university.
What's USTA or UTSA, University of Texas, San Antonio.
Okay.
I went there with it.
Brandon, okay.
Yeah.
So, yeah, I'm a bit of Houston.
We went to Moody Gardens.
Yeah, that's a cool place.
That's in Dallas.
But I think we actually may have just gone.
Actually, where's NASA?
That's in Houston, right?
That's in, isn't it, Alvin?
Yeah, it's on the way to Dallas.
But it's in Houston because...
It's south of Houston, but it's kind of...
So, I guess that's the most Houston-ish place that I've been to because we went to NASA.
Yeah.
That's a cool place.
It is.
It's very good.
I've always loved it.
It was great.
Oh, yeah.
You get to see the original...
The original, what do you call it?
Control room.
Yeah, that was cool.
When they had the Apollo missions.
Oh, yeah.
The kids were like, this is stupid.
And they just kind of shut it down and let it sit there like that and build a new one.
That was badass.
Oh, yeah.
It looks like you're back in the...
Because they had the control room.
Then you had where the...
I don't know where the manager is, where everyone would sit and watch over everything.
Oh, yeah.
That's where you were at when you were back.
And the families, too.
Sitting in the little sitting area.
Correct, yeah.
That was cool.
Speaking of space type of stuff and maybe woke, go, woke, go, broke, Boeing is struggling.
Boeing.
I don't know what they're doing, man.
Is it wokeness?
I mean, they're struggling on the airline side.
Now they're struggling on the space.
I think it's bad leadership because I would have been reading because actually I've applied to Boeing.
And I'm like, you know, if I get offered a job, do you want to take it kind of a thing?
At this point, yes, but...
Keep in mind, they're massive.
They're a huge company.
Huge.
But it's another American company that I think has took too many missteps.
The planes, there's another Alaska flight I think just had to turn around because an engine failed.
Dude.
And I was on a Reddit board with all these Boeing employees on it.
It's the Boeing employees.
And they're about to go on strike.
Oh, shit.
So there's about to be a Boeing strike.
I mean, I want to give them the benefit of the doubt and play a little devil's advocate.
What is about Boeing?
I mean, dude, you already said that the company is so big.
I mean, they've got their hands in it.
I think they've lost focus.
Well, I mean, okay.
And that's based on these six things that have happened.
Yeah, but they got caught lying about shit.
And they, I mean, and then a whistleblower kills themselves.
I mean, it's, I never watched the bad shit.
Have you watched a Netflix documentary about them?
No.
Watch that because when they merged with Northrop Grumman is where it started going downhill
because they pulled, I think from what I understand, they pulled a lot of their stuff out of Seattle area.
Okay.
And moved it to either Chicago or North Carolina or something like that.
So some whistleblower off himself.
Yeah.
So they were, they probably hit him so hard.
I said, you know what, dude, you got to go.
Not only are you going to go, but you can take yourself out or we take your entire family out.
Yeah, I don't know, but he did watch that documentary.
I'll find out what the name of it is.
And it's very, very good.
It's about the, the max.
What's the, the max 37 or 57 or whatever.
Yeah, there's like two or three of them that crashed.
Yeah.
And then they lied about their test results and they huge fuckup on their part.
Oh, dude.
I mean, it's you talk about eroding competence.
All right, so, and I think it's, I think it's culture driven because like I said,
when they merged with Northrop Grumman, the Northrop Grumman executives,
shady dudes took over and incorporated that culture and it, and it started to erode that Boeing culture.
Dude, I'm telling you, man, culture matters.
It does.
I mean, that's why the whole work go broke.
And I'm not saying that that caused this, but I mean, that's, but that's the effect of bad culture.
That's, yeah, bad culture.
I just think it's not checking your, your P's and Q's, you know,
also like I said, I'm getting complacent, right?
Not having good processes.
I'm on this, this, I was reading this Reddit thread and take it for what it is.
You know, do you believe it or not?
But you know, these sound like people who work for Boeing.
Right.
That are completely disgruntled.
They're engineers.
Oh, they're like, Boeing is losing their top talent because they refuse to pay.
Right.
So these top talent are leaving.
Right.
The company.
So they don't have the best of the best anymore.
Yeah.
Which that matters.
It matters, especially in the work that you're doing.
Yeah.
It matters.
That's highly, highly technical.
Top of the world technical engineering stuff they're doing.
Correct.
And they're losing their top talent.
Yeah.
That's not, that's not good.
No.
So we should fly Airbus now.
I mean, what?
Oh, Airbus is in some trouble.
Oh, shit.
Should we fly at all?
Should we take a train?
Let's go.
Yeah.
Just, just.
Have you guys ever done that?
You ever taken a long train trip?
I have not.
I'd like to do that sometime.
I did that when I was a kid on Amtrak.
It was really, it was really kind of.
Did you have a sleeper cabin?
Yeah.
Well, you had like a little bunk that you pulled down off the side.
It was cheap though, man.
Oh, nowadays it's not cheap at all.
I'm sure back then it might have been much.
I wonder why we did that.
I mean, it was really interesting though.
It was like a, it was probably just overnight,
but it seemed like it was like a three night deal, you know.
Right, right.
But cause I was just little.
Well, you could do that.
I think they, here in Dallas, there's an Amtrak station, I believe.
Yeah.
And you could take trips all over the place from here.
Yeah.
It'll take you, you know, four days.
We're like a hub.
Yeah.
Four days to get up to Seattle or something like that.
But it's, it's not cheap cause you want to sleep a car.
Then you got to go the dining car and you know, the bar car.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
I like that idea.
That'd be fun.
Have you ever done a train, a train ride, a train trip?
Like no.
German, German.
So well, I'll tell you what, when we lived in Germany, I mean,
it wasn't like what you think.
And then across country, actually, that's not true.
We did one time.
Yeah.
You know what?
So I did.
Yeah.
In Europe, we did.
So there was a lot of a, is it called Strassenbund?
What is the other trains called?
No, the trains.
It's the God bless it.
There's a, I forgot the name of it.
Strassenbund is a highway.
There's another one for the Autobahn.
Autobahn is a home.
Maybe, you know, whatever.
It doesn't matter.
They have the, the trains.
And they've got these, they're like a little dart buses and they go fucking everywhere.
They have massive train system.
And then they have ones, hey, I need to get from this city to this city.
And then boom.
In fact, you can get on a train in Monheim, Germany and go all the way to Paris.
Oh yeah.
You know, not necessarily nonstop.
It'll take a while, but you can do that.
And you can get a very specialized train and they've got these little boxes.
They've got box cars that are where you go eat.
And they've got personalized little bedrooms, like a little shack with a
shitter.
Yeah.
That's what it's over night though.
I think some of them are 24 seven.
Stephen and Camden were there over in Europe for 30 days.
That's all the, how they traveled from country to country.
Most everybody I talked to that has traveled Europe get is doing trains.
Yeah.
So that's, that's great.
It'd be fun.
Imagine sitting in the bar car, man.
Just kind of just, well, not about, okay.
Yeah.
But I'm just, you know, looking out the window and seeing the country side of
Europe.
I mean, that's just badass, right?
It was caught.
It was a straw some bond.
Those are the straw some bond.
It's a tram essentially.
That's what I type of urban transit.
And that's what I remember when I was on that one Amtrak thing.
I mean, we're, if we did look out the windows, I mean, that's what you do.
Look out the windows.
It was just farmland, farmland, farmland, farmland, farmland.
I mean, it was just like, and then when you did roll through a small town or a
city, right, you know, it was like, you know, it was cool, you know, right.
But fascinating.
That would be a great, that would be a great way to, to see the world.
Like, I mean, just train around the world.
Like across the Pacific, you know, right?
No, I mean, seriously, that would be, that would be very, would you rather go on a
train or a boat?
Well, I'll be two different experiences, I think.
Because a boat, I mean, you're going to be on a big, well, depends on how rich you
You could take your own personal yacht or whatever.
Or like, that's a cruise ship, right?
I mean, cruise ship.
Yeah.
We've always been on, well, all of us have been on a cruise ship.
Maybe I've never been on.
You've never been on a cruise.
Never been on one.
No.
You've never been on a cruise?
No.
No shit.
I mean, I know you've got the challenges on the, on the, the cruise ship.
Well, if I go, my wife's not going.
So I'm sure.
I've never been.
I can't believe you've never been.
Well, you think maybe we ought to do a short one, you know, like a little four day weekend
excursion.
Yeah, they have.
For the dudes like us podcast guys.
They have three, four, five.
Yeah, out of Galveston.
Yeah.
Well, maybe we ought to look into that.
Maybe we ought to get a group.
But you dudes.
What you do?
You guys like us?
You can sit around in our swimsuits and staring at each other.
We could do a podcast by the pools.
That'd be great.
Hey, are you going to jump in?
No, I was just too cold.
You're all fat, bassy guys in her bikinis with their headsets on.
Yeah.
That reminds me, you know, my dad was in the military.
We were dirty, dirty dudes.
We were stationed in Monheim, Germany.
We lived there for, I don't know.
It was less than 10 years, but it was there off and on.
I did three or four tours to go into Germany.
So we went back and forth from the United States as a family.
And I remember we would go on vacation over to Italy.
You know, my dad would take off two, three weeks and we'd go down there and there was
a lake called Lagarta.
I don't remember exactly where it's at.
If I were to look at a map, I couldn't zoom it.
I haven't flagged on Google Maps, but Lagarta Lake, it's like a little Mediterranean style
sea.
All nude.
They have sections where they were.
At least they were back then.
And I haven't seen anything like that at all.
Lagarta.
They were topless.
They were not all nude.
There you go.
No, they were nude.
They didn't have anything.
Just like all the junk was hanging out.
Well, I'll tell you what, well, you know, to me, I was super young.
So in the morning I would get up like super early.
You know how you, you said that you were on vacation.
You went out to go play by the beach and stuff.
You know, your parents were frantic where you're at.
You remember where you go, where's he at?
My parents didn't give a shit.
You know, I was, I left the tent, went down there, had a snorkel and mask, and I'm down
there in crystal clear water.
Right.
And I've got the mask on with the snorkel and I'm just sitting there, just staring
into the super clear water and watching all these tiny minnows under the dock.
Did I have sharks?
No, it was a lake.
So it was like, and we got one of those.
Piratus.
Locked.
It's enough for, you know, it's one adult, but two of us for sure.
In fact, I still have it unless Preston and Steven popped when they went to the, I believe
they did.
I'm sure they did.
Because you bitched at them.
That's my childhood raft.
Oh, it sucked and it chips me out because it worked.
I mean, the quality or the craftsmanship of the products they put out in the 60s and
70s, anywhere past the 80s, you know, before that.
It was like military grade.
Oh man, it was like that shit will last forever.
And it did.
It lasted until my kids got old.
Yeah.
It lasted what an hour.
It was like, wrote it down the creek.
You had it for 40 years and so they had it for an hour.
You know, that was a pretty cool adventure for me growing up.
You know, it was, you know, it was, the weather was wonderful.
You know, it was really cool.
We took off from Lagarta.
We went towards the Mediterranean and we had a good time out there and the Mediterranean
sea was kind of weird because it's not like the ocean where it just drops off and you're
kind of like, y'all of a sudden it's deep, you know, in the Mediterranean, at least the
section that we were at, there was, it goes out for a while.
Yeah.
You can go out.
It takes a long way out to get above your shoulders.
And it's not like rip current dangerous.
Yeah.
There's no real super.
I mean, there's some waves that come in, but they're, they're minor.
There's no tidal waves or anything like that.
You just have to worry about, it's probably cold too, wasn't it?
Cold?
Um, where we were at because of being shallow, it was pretty comfortable.
I'm sure maybe further out, it was colder.
Well, I know here in the South, at least in the America, you have to worry about the
brain amoeba, the bacteria that'll get you these, these, these, the Mediterranean or
the lake, ponds and stuff.
That's a lake, right?
Well the warm one, the warm one was the sea, the, the Mediterranean sea.
So it was the actual sea.
Okay.
Yeah.
Now the lake, I don't recall it being hot at all.
No, it was, it was pretty cold.
It was one of those where you have to either dive in and get it over with or it takes a,
it's a really a slow process.
You know, you start with your toes and you, you jump in, that's what I do.
Yeah.
You just torturing yourself.
When you get to your ball and you're like, you have to stop and then you back up and
you're like, Oh my God, I gotta do this.
And then do the plunge.
And you got it.
You have to.
You just got to get in.
It's painful any other way.
Yeah.
And then you have found yourself doing that or you didn't want to plan.
Oh, I know.
You get stuck like halfway in, halfway out.
Oh no.
And then you choose not to give in and jump in.
Oh, it's the worst.
So this brain amoeba thing.
I mean, is it, is this something, I have been hearing it more and more.
I mean, are they treating lakes for that?
I mean, is there something they can do?
No, it blooms up every, every summer.
You don't want to go swimming in ponds during the summer down here.
Like stagnant water.
Yeah.
You don't want to do that.
I would agree with that.
I mean, so what's considered, like Lake Lewisville would not be considered stagnant water, would
it?
They can be found in warm, fresh water lakes, rivers and hot springs.
Yeah.
I mean, is it, because I was in Lake Lewisville just a couple of weekends ago.
I don't know if it's in Lewisville or not.
I don't know if it's the larger ones are susceptible to it or if it's a smaller, smaller swimming
holes.
Right.
I don't know.
You do hear the stories though.
It's crazy.
I mean, you don't want to, if you are in them, you know, you don't want to go diving in where
the water goes up the nose.
You can splash up your nose into your brain.
Man, look, I disagree.
I don't think there's any treatment for that or anything.
I think it's unfortunate for those people that get exposed to that.
But you know, you got to think it's kind of like being afraid that you're going to get
struck by lightning every time you go outside.
You know, that's about the same percentage and you can't go through life being afraid
to jump in head first into a lake.
I would agree with that.
I disagree with that to some extent.
You do certain things that you know are problematic.
Like I'm not going to go swim with a bunch of sharks because something may happen.
Well, yeah, I'm not going to jump into a lake that is stagnant and warm that may have something
that's going to get me.
Right.
And I'm not going to play tag on the toll.
I'm not saying I'm not going to jump in any way.
I'm not going to jump in that.
I agree a thousand percent.
You know, that's just stupid.
You know, I'm not going to go play in a puddle.
You know what I mean?
It's short.
You got those little wigglies in there.
You know, deep puddles.
Yeah, it's just a flood.
Jell-Om.
We went somewhere out at Lake Tahoe.
That's fucking cold out there.
So that's not a problem.
But you know, but if it was if it was small and just a little swimming hole, I'd be like,
yeah, I may pass.
I agree with that 100 percent.
But I'm just talking about lake life.
You know, a lot of these.
I don't know.
I'm not sure because, you know, it says warm, fresh water, but you know, even rivers.
So if the the amoeba is in a river, then it's not stagnant.
Right.
It's just damn unlucky.
Yeah.
That's kind of what I'm driving at.
I mean, I agree.
How many cases a year do you see this?
I think a half a million.
Do they just does a Pfizer HEPA vaccine for that?
It's one out of four people that swim in a lake.
Well, it seems like you hear about it more often.
Yeah, you really.
And maybe maybe it's because because it's such a rare thing.
They always want to jump on it and say, you know, I mean, is there like two cases a year?
10?
I don't know.
That's a good question.
I think it's one of three.
The majority of the cases have occurred in South and West with Texas having the most
cases at 39 Florida at 37 as of two thousand twenty three.
No, is that cumulative?
So that's 40 a year ish.
That's a lot.
That seems to me that seems like to be a lot to me now, but do they are they're not all
fatal?
I mean, yeah, so I don't know.
I don't know what the fatality rate is.
Well, it says it says Pam is extremely deadly.
The Pam is the the what does the acronym?
What a nightmare brain amoeba as a parent.
So when water containing amoeba enters the nose and travels to the brain, this could
happen extremely rare cases in a swimming pool even.
So there you go.
I have a swimming pool are more likely to occur during the summer months than in the
hot weather when chlorine could be less effective.
So it says extremely deadly with nearly everyone who contacts it dying from the infection as
of two thousand eighteen.
Only seven people have survived of the three hundred eighty one.
Wow.
That's pretty high mortality rate is.
Yeah.
So I stay away from I stay away from late for four known survivors have been reported
in the United States, including a 16 year old who survived 50 years ago.
So does that because it impacts your brain?
Do they have any kind of brain damage from surviving this?
I bet you they do.
I don't know.
It's almost like encephalitis or whatever.
What do you call that?
It's just a brain infection, right?
Well, I know to eat your brain.
I don't know.
I mean, well, even if it doesn't eat your brain, I mean, just the fact that it's trying
to bore a hole in your brain, trying to make room to lay eggs or whatever the fuck it does.
Yeah, it's because the brain, there's there's nothing going on up there.
There's no you don't have nerves in your brain.
You don't feel it.
Yeah.
Once it gets up in there.
It just goes in there, lays in your ear.
All of a sudden you're just kentotic.
So you don't have nerves in your brain.
Do not.
You have nerves.
So that's why they can do open brain surgery.
Well, they have to numb all of this in the skull.
Yeah.
But once they get in there, they can feel it.
No nerves.
No.
Jeff has the visuals.
Yeah.
I think he's tossing us out.
I wouldn't want you to be my brain surgeon.
I don't know what the hell you're doing there.
Just go in there and fly it out.
Yeah.
What the hell?
You're doing hibachi on somebody's brain.
Right.
I still wouldn't.
It's like, you know, you got to do smart things.
You know, I mentioned, I use the analogy against truck by lightning.
You know, that doesn't mean I'm going to go play out in the middle of a thunderstorm.
Right.
You know, so yeah, you got to rule that out.
And it's kind of kind of a leave it at that.
But you know, yeah, I'll avoid stagnant water.
But you know, I kind of like to get into a lake.
Yeah.
Go water, skating or water.
I mean, what are boarding or.
Yeah.
I didn't even think about the danger.
I mean, when I went out of my buddy's pontoon boat and just jumped in the water and flowed
around with a couple drinks and water warm.
Um, it was, it was cool.
Maybe it's maybe it's maybe the bigger the body of water.
It's cool enough.
Cause like Lewis was pretty big.
Yeah.
It's huge.
Right.
I don't know.
I didn't even cross my mind.
You know, like, now granted, other than jumping in, my head didn't even go underwater.
Right.
So my head was above water pretty much the whole time.
Yeah.
You know, I'd be kind of curious if they could break down with a map where these cases
were sourced.
Yeah.
You know, and kind of, I know they probably don't want to do that cause they'll start
scaring people, but you know, at the same time, you know, what do we do?
How do we prevent that besides not getting in the water?
How do we prevent that as from a nature?
If you're, you know, someone that's taken care of the land, you know, how do you treat
water?
Do you put different fish in there?
I don't know.
Well, amoebas are one cell.
Right.
So they don't lay eggs or anything.
They split.
Right.
So they, they mate with themselves and split.
Oh, wow.
So that's a, that's a distinct advantage to mate with yourself.
So I don't think there's things.
So they don't, they don't duplicate in twos or do they divide into make twos people where
they start exponentially getting bigger?
Well, amoeba people.
Well, I mean, I'm just saying, right?
Yeah.
Well, I mean, that's what I'm saying.
It does one become two and then that other one dies off and then the other one come without
me.
No, they, they separate and we do this together.
So there's a nostril right there.
No, let's go buddy.
Is that my butt?
What are you doing?
So by the way, the pay am I mentioned here is the, the primary amoebic minnow justify
flottis.
Oh, I'm sure you said that right.
Yes.
That was dead on.
Yes.
Yeah.
Very well done.
Yeah.
California and Arizona have also recorded many deaths, many cases.
That's crazy that you know.
That is crazy.
381 reported cases in the medical literature up until 2018.
That's extremely misleading.
381 cases reported in medical literature up until 2018.
So that means from the beginning of time, from the beginning of medical literature.
Come on.
Yeah.
And they should say from 1900 or 2010 or recording medical stuff in the Roman times.
So is that include?
All right, this one, this, this is here from the center for disease control and prevention
dot gov.
If water, we trust them, right?
Yeah.
Well, I mean, you know, they, they want to scare people up like Fauci is right now.
It's kind of hold on, but let me finish this step.
Fewer than 10 people a year in the United States get that, that primary amoeba.
Minnow slenderman.
That's nonsense.
You didn't, you didn't say it the same way.
Fauci has, Fauci has West Nile.
Yeah, you know, that kind of makes me a little nervous, not from that fact that what's up
his sleeve.
He got it in a lab.
I don't, I mean, he said he got his backyard from mosquito bite.
Yeah.
I'm just like, what is up his sleeve of all the men on the plan to get it?
Why would it be him?
There's something.
And why is he so, yeah, why is he so vocal about it?
Right.
There's something to cook it.
And there's another thing.
It's because you get the West Nile virus, it's not commutative.
I mean, I mean, it's not commutable, communicable, communicative food, contagious.
Yeah.
It's not contagious.
It's contagious.
That's a better word.
So you can't pass it from human to human.
Period.
So it's true.
That's true.
At least right now.
Well, I mean, maybe they're testing it to see if that's what Fauci was doing.
He doesn't sort of make sure these days can pass it off.
Especially in a wet, I got him from accident, especially in a wet market.
What kind of bars are you hanging out, buddy?
I'm just saying there's little monkeys that hang up in there and they probably have one
now.
Well, the next one is the monkeypox.
That's a new virus.
That's a meme you sent.
That was so bad.
He was making fun of himself.
Well, I asked you wonder.
All right.
So the meme he sent was this, this guy who was had a mask on.
It's just black dude is getting really emotional about, you know, saying that monkeypox is
a real thing.
What was the mask?
What are they called?
Well, it was those filters.
It was a filter, a snapshot filter.
Yes.
Well, no, he originally had a mask.
He had originally had a mask on.
Oh, he did.
And then he takes the mask off and then he becomes a monkey.
You didn't see that?
And I wondered, oh, I guess I missed the end of it.
Part of me was, oh, that was the whole joke.
Yeah.
Part of me was, was did he play that all together?
Or did somebody take a video from somebody during COVID days that were scared during COVID
days?
I have to assume he did it start to finish because that was brilliant.
Yeah.
It really was brilliant.
It was pretty damn funny.
Yeah.
So it was good.
Yeah.
It was, it was actually really, you got to see it again, Sean, if you didn't see him
take off the mask.
That was the whole point.
He started eating a banana and then the banana started disappearing and I was like, this
stupid.
I moved on.
No, he became, you turn into a monkey.
You missed that part?
How do you miss that part?
Oh, God.
It pops right out at you.
Yes.
And then he, you know, he tries not to laugh.
I think, I don't know.
It was pretty funny.
Yeah.
So the monkey pops, I think they're going to try to push this even though.
Yeah.
What's the scoop behind?
Well, it's, they try to do it a year or two ago, but it's, it's, it's mainly passed
through homosexual men.
Oh, okay.
Right.
So, but they're saying that it's transmitted anally.
It.
Go on.
Touch.
Paul knows this.
I don't know about this part of it.
It's when you sniff other people's butts.
It could be.
But no, it's, it mainly infects homosexual men.
How they get it.
Who knows?
We can conjecture about that all day.
Oh, is that how foul you got it?
That's a different.
What are you?
That's the West.
No, that's what you're talking about.
Monkey box.
Oh, so it's monkey.
Is it associated with the butt?
But they're all wet now by lying.
But they're all, they're, they're trying to change it to kind of fool people.
Now they're called M pox.
Oh, so they're trying to get the monkey part out of it because I think that because everyone
knows those more along the homosexual folks got it.
So now they're just calling it M pox to try to get around that and saying that more and
more people are getting this and.
We are because, yeah, because they're trying to remove the stigma from.
Probably from that.
Meaning if that's an only because yeah, because it can be transmitted to, you know, man to
woman like as well.
Like if like a gay guy ends up having sex with a girl or something like that, which happens.
Right.
It does.
And then she goes home and has sex with someone else.
You can get it that way, I guess.
There we go.
So monkey box is an infectious viral disease and it can occur in humans and other animals.
Symptoms include rash blisters.
They crust over.
Crusty.
Oh, crusty.
Swollen lymph nodes.
I don't think death is involved though.
Is it?
Most recover the illness is usually mild with most infected individuals recover within a
few weeks without treatment.
So you could have gotten this, you know, we wouldn't even own.
Also different differential diagnosis.
Sometimes people when they get monkey pox, it's sometimes it's chicken pox and some or
smallpox is very similar.
It's one of the symptoms of the smallpox kills you.
Oh, God.
That's like it's one of the biggest killers in human history.
Yeah.
Smallpox is bad.
So the impact vaccine.
I wonder how old that is.
I don't know.
One of the symptoms is a really sore rectum though, isn't it?
Is that a symptom?
Maybe that's why they have a swollen lymph node.
Yes.
The cause.
So all I see is swollen prostate.
Anyway, okay.
Well, I mean, we were talking about vacation spots when I was talking about being in Italy.
I mean, did you guys have any other destination?
We were talking about trains and we're traveling to Europe.
What other kind of destination?
Well, I think we have a list of the top US vacation spots.
If Mr. Producer wants to pull those up, we could kind of run through those.
Oh, the US, yeah.
The US, only the US and there's 50 of them on this list.
We don't have to go through all of these because I'm sure they get kind of obscure at some
point.
Yeah.
You want to just go like five to one, ten to one.
Let's go look the first 10 or so see where it goes.
All right.
If you want to scroll down, I'm sure the first one is going to be like Disney World or something.
Orlando, Florida.
There you go.
You just said it.
Disney World.
So you got Disney World down there.
Disney World right there, but you have, there's actually quite a bit going on.
That's Lego Land there.
Well, they got, they got Universal Orlando Resort, Fun Spot, American Orlando and Lego
Land, Florida, Kennedy Space Center.
What else they got?
The NASA Space Center.
Well, there's also, because you're not too far from the coast because Florida's, you
know, what it is.
You also have the Cocoa Beach over there where they used to launch.
I think they still launch rockets from over there, don't they?
I don't know.
Cocoa Beach.
That's where the, they used to launch them from at least.
I've been there as well.
That's pretty cool.
Yeah.
I'd like tons of people have, there's a ton of stuff to do in Orlando.
Plus that's where I dream of Genie was, right?
Oh, yeah.
Okay.
Cocoa Beach.
But anyway, Disney World, Universal.
I think Bush Gardens is down there or maybe that's a tamp.
I don't know, but there's a lot going on down there.
If you're in a theme park, stuff like that.
Sure.
What's the next one?
There's another one.
Anaheim, California.
Disneyland.
Yeah.
Nutsberry Farm.
It's just because it's Disney, right?
I know.
Just because it's Disney and I shouldn't sigh.
Those are the top locations.
And again, the parks are fun.
I know they are.
You got to get past the bullshit, but the parks are fun if you ever go.
Yep.
No, I get it.
Yeah.
California's beautiful.
I just, you know, that just never seems to come to mind for me.
Yeah.
I don't think I'd ever go to Disneyland.
I like Disney World.
It's just more to it.
More to it.
Oh yeah.
Okay.
All right.
I've never been.
So yeah, what's the big draw here?
They have like a fancy, amazing boardwalk or I see a, the picture here has got like a
big Ferris wheel.
So I guess there's a massive boardwalk.
I don't know.
Scroll down.
Myrtle Beach.
What have we got here?
It was a big location for folks in Cincinnati.
A lot of the kids that I went to school with over the summer, they'd go to Myrtle Beach.
We never did.
But I just think it's, it's a nice beach, kind of like South Padre is a nice beach.
I think Myrtle Beach is the same, same type of place.
Yeah.
Super touristy, right?
So it's got like mini golf and water sports and rope courses and laser tag and hands on
exhibits.
So I mean, you know, that's the stuff you want for little kids to do, right?
Right.
That's cool.
Yep.
I'm sure it's beautiful too.
Yeah.
Again, never, never went though.
I liked you someday.
All right.
What have we got next here?
Oh yeah.
Washington, DC.
This is more of a historical type of thing, right?
Yeah.
Did you take your kids there?
We, I've been there a couple of times.
I think the boys have been there.
Man, I have to, I have to remember.
Yes.
Yes, we did because we visited my sister.
We didn't get to see, there's a ton, ton of stuff to see, right?
Oh yeah, a ton of stuff.
So yeah, we did see the National Air and Space Museum.
That was super cool.
Oh yeah.
Where you see the Enola Gay, right?
Yep.
Where the one that dropped the nuke, or dropped the atomic bomb.
Correct.
So that was fascinating.
I love, for me, I'm totally into, you know, aircraft, right?
World War II aircraft, the history of aircraft, all that kind of stuff.
Yeah, we went, we took the boys when they were 12 and 10 or something like that.
My sister used to live out by Washington, DC.
Her husband was in the, worked at the Pentagon.
And we went up there, we hit all the Smithsonian stuff.
We toured.
That's been real cool.
That's when we, we got.
You'd spend a day there.
Oh yeah.
Well, the Smithsonian, there's, there's what, eight different museums or something
like that, right to go through.
Yeah.
So we hit the ones, we did the natural science ones.
We did the ones that we thought would keep the boys.
Well, we didn't take them to the ones where like, Archer, the dresses and the art stuff.
Art stuff, yeah.
And stuff like that.
You could bring like a, like a huge glass of bourbon and just walk the whole, all the
museums for two days straight.
Oh, you could.
I know about the bourbon part, but yeah, if you could, and not with the same glass, you'd
need multiple glass.
Oh, I'd have a, one of those camel backs.
Yeah.
And we toured the Capitol building.
Stumbling around.
Yeah.
We toured the Capitol building, which was very cool.
They tell about all the paintings.
That I have not seen the Capitol building that we did.
I've never been to DC.
I'd like to go.
I was there during January 6th and I went, walked around it, you know, during that.
That way.
Yeah.
They're going to come find you now.
They probably will.
We did the White House tour.
My buddy was in a secret service, so he got us into the White House.
That was cool.
We saw the Vietnam wall, the Memorial, Korea, World War II.
So we took the boys to see all that kind of stuff.
So it was good.
Is that the one where the guys are all planting the flag, that monument?
No, that was Iwo Jima.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's right.
Now, the, the, well, the Vietnam one is the big wall with all the names.
Yes.
The Korean one is, looks like a squad of guys.
I don't know, maybe six, seven, eight guys.
It's all made out of, I don't know what it's made out of.
Right.
Iron or something like that.
It's a nice sculpture.
Yeah.
For the Korean War.
Super cool.
And then the cherry blossoms, right?
Didn't see that.
We didn't make it to Arlington Cemetery.
I wanted to go see that.
We just ran out of time.
Yeah.
Oh, that's like a three day.
It could easily be a three day thing.
Oh yeah, easily.
Yeah.
We saw the reflecting pool.
We saw Lincoln's Memorial.
And it's cool.
You know, we saw the Washington monument and stuff like that.
We didn't go up inside it because they were working on it.
I went out there and saw a Titans game with my sister and they played the commanders,
right?
On a road game.
It was super cool.
And then we went and saw the, the Holocaust Museum.
Damn.
I did.
We didn't make it to that.
That was intense.
Right.
Intense, man.
Yeah.
I learned a lot.
I learned a lot in that museum.
I didn't realize the level they went to, to identify if you were Jewish or not.
They like came out with all these charts and they said, if you have these characteristics,
you need to report to, I mean, they really, really worked hard to, to, to identify if
you were Jewish or not.
I mean, dude, it was, it was so more, so systematic.
You know what I mean?
It was crazy.
Right.
I mean, Nazi Germany did, man.
Anyway, eye-opening experience for sure.
Yes.
All right.
Number five.
What's next?
San Diego.
It's a huge pass.
I've been there.
It's beautiful.
Well, when's the last time you were there?
1931.
Yeah.
Um, the zoo is very cool.
Uh, again, I didn't see a lot of it.
I was not impressed with the downtown area.
We're in the boardwalk.
They have, they have an aircraft carrier there that you could tour.
Uh, that's what you get.
Any free drug paraphernal when you were down there because of acid on the corners?
No, but you had to walk through urine smelling areas.
It looks like they cleaned up.
I, yeah, I mean, I was there for two days for a conference, two or three days.
I should know three days for a conference.
And we went down to the pier and saw the, there was some big, uh, statue of the guy
kissing the girl or something like that.
I didn't see that.
I mean, it was probably what, uh, five, six years ago.
Oh, that's not that long.
Yeah.
I mean, and I, yeah, there was nothing, you're almost thinking of San Francisco, like the
needles and the, I'm just thinking a lot of these mainstream California cities.
There were, there were, yeah, I don't think San Diego's is bad, but well, I'm sure there
are areas of it.
Yeah.
The places we saw, uh, like I said, we walked a couple of miles, uh, to get down to the
thing, but, uh, we walked through some year in a smell type areas, but sure, you know,
what's the next one?
Oh, Gatlinburg, Tennessee.
I have been there.
I've never been.
That's beautiful.
I want to, that's the Smoky Mountains, right?
Yeah.
Smoky Mountains.
Yeah.
We, uh, we had a family reunion there.
And so we stayed in these massive cabins that like, you know, fit like six, eight,
10 families, you know, right?
And, uh, beautiful foresty.
And then if you want to go in, you have to share the same bathroom.
Uh, I don't, I don't think so.
I think it was, you know, there's the Blue Ridge Mountains.
There was tons of space.
Part of the Smoky.
Yeah.
It's all part of the same Smoky Mountains.
I think I was thinking of Rocky Mountains.
Never mind.
Um, but Gatlinburg, if you want to go into town, right, you know, you can, that's what's
nice about Gatlinburg.
You can choose the naturey, the naturey type of stuff where you're doing like hiking and
trails and waterfalls and shit like that, or you can go into town and do all the tourists.
We also have Dollywood.
Yeah.
I did not go there, which I think has surpassed Disney world and popularity.
Damn.
Or it's getting very close to very nice.
So, but you also have Pigeon Forge, but there's also a lot of history around.
Why is it infamous?
A lot of Dollywood amusement park.
Visit the infamous Dollywood.
Infamous is a negative term.
I don't know.
That must be a typo.
They must have meant famous.
Yeah.
It's just a big amusement park.
But anyway, they have a lot of, I think there's a lot of civil war type things you can revolutionary
see.
I love that shit.
Things there.
Yes.
I love that shit.
I love the history stuff.
When we went to Kentucky, I made a point to like have a couple stops for civil war stuff.
We're, we are pressed for time.
We have a bourbon to talk about.
Yeah.
Well, I mean, we're going to continue the wrap it up or we.
No, we, yeah, we said we would hit a couple of them.
I think let's switch over to bourbons.
I'd like we can come back to those because I want to hit a couple more of those.
Maybe hit the top 10.
Yeah, we'll hit another few.
Yeah.
Maybe next to half if we don't get to it.
I'll tell you what the do with the bourbon there.
Mr. producer.
It is heaven hill.
Lottled in bond.
And it's a good one.
It's aged what seven years.
I forget what it's.
I remember correctly.
I thought it was seven years.
38 years.
30.
Oh, 38 years.
Oh, okay.
Well, that's definitely the longest one we've ever tried this age.
What does say seven years?
It is seven years.
Well, it says it on the TV on the TV.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, sure it does.
Yeah.
So it's a hundred proof age for seven years.
It's about a bond right?
It's bottled in bond.
So I will say it is.
It's I mean, so good.
Is it good?
Is it bad?
Is it okay?
Is it very good?
Is it excellent?
Is it premium?
Super premium.
I think it's good.
That's like a perfect one.
And you know, again, what's kind of like in the same categories where we need to start
coming up with the 100, the hazmat 120s, 10, 190, 80, whatever.
You know, for being a hundred proof, I think it's probably the better of the bottle and
bonds that they have out there just because it's easy.
It's not very alkali.
It doesn't have that smell that kind of overpowers you.
Of course, it's been sitting on the table for an hour.
Right.
But I mean, I think this is just a standard bourbon experience for me.
Yeah, but good.
But it's good.
It's a good from a good perspective.
A lot of these bottle and bonds I'm saying is very ethnally, you know, and you get on
and this one doesn't show that.
No, this one is if you have a guest over, this is a fine bourbon to pull out and, you
know, share with a guest.
No question around it.
It used to be very difficult to find and not so much anymore.
And they're pretty proud of it right now, too.
Yeah, the prices also go up.
So the tasting notes they've got, that's a golden amber.
It's warm notes of vanilla, honey and rich caramel sweetness.
Yeah, standard bourbon.
The taste of smooth, warm and sweet with a subtle rye spice note caramel and honey mingle
with just enough oak and charred around out of the richness.
A little stone fruit.
I'm joking.
I just added that.
It's it's got a lot of corn.
It's only got 10 percent rye.
78 percent corn.
That's a lot.
Yeah, that is.
And the the finish, it just says long and lingering.
And it does.
It does have a little bit of that kind of comparative to that white pepper kind of.
Oh, yeah, there's no burn.
There's absolutely no none burn or tickle or or anything.
No very, very, very, no feistyness.
No, not at all.
So this is the distillery.
Not the distillery.
This is the the place I visited.
One of the one of the places I went in Kentucky and we I you never know what to expect when
you roll up on these places, right?
They had a really nice, you know, tasting room and in welcoming center.
But the distillery was not on site.
It was just, you know, what you could we got to visit the Rick houses, right?
A Rick house.
And that was fascinating because this is one of the ones that they have five different.
I think they have five different brands, right?
That are all heaven Hill.
It's all the exact same mash bill.
And what makes it this one versus the other four is we talked about this in the iron route.
It's where it's stored in the Rick house.
Right.
Yeah.
So it's probably nestled right next to the Elijah Craig's.
Exactly.
You know, it's just that same.
It's it is kind of it's crazy.
You know, it it amazes me because I never knew that.
Right.
I didn't either.
A lot of Buffalo traces like that as well.
Yes.
They have like three or four different mash bills, but they have, you know, 20 different
bourbons.
Right.
Because of how long they age it, what they age it in and where they put it in the Rick
house.
Correct.
That part I didn't realize.
I mean, we always talked about angel chair, right?
You know, that being at the top, yeah, I get that.
But man, they it, I didn't understand, you know, just moving it around the Rick house.
But what I was going to tell you is that their heartbreaking story is and you might have
to help me out on this, Mr. Producer, but heaven held the still re fire.
So they had a distillery on site across the street.
And it's it, it's still there to still re burned down and took down like four or five
Rick houses.
I don't remember what year that was.
Um, in 1996, is that what it says?
Look at all those buildings on fire.
Yes.
It was catastrophic for them.
Oh man, man, for me, I mean, I'm, imagine all that.
Yes.
Okay.
So their distillery went up in flames.
There you go.
1996, a storm was brewing, strike of lightning, and United one of the worst distillery fires
the country had ever seen.
Will warehouses, Rick houses really filled with heaven hill bourbon went up in flames.
I think they lost four or five Rick houses.
I bet it smelled good.
Oh, it smelled wonderful.
Yeah.
Awful.
A hundred thousand barrels of bourbon, 18 inch deep river of burning bourbon.
Damn.
So the Rick house that we visited was one of the few onsite that survived the fire.
Probably have a still have a nice smoky aroma.
Probably.
Anyway, that was the crazy thing I was going to share.
And then they, um, they tore it all down and then they're built a brand new distillery
somewhere else.
So what's the insurance claim on that?
I don't know.
How was that on that, Sean?
What would be the insurance claim on that?
Active God.
Um, is it an act of God?
18 struck it.
So coverage is usually extended from a to lightning and fires.
God, look at that picture.
That's crazy.
You can see that.
You can see the river.
Yeah.
River of fire.
I think I remember seeing this on the news.
I remember this when this happened.
I wonder how long it took to get that fire out.
My goodness.
I think they said half an hour.
Oh, wow, that's fast.
Those firefighters are really good in Kentucky.
How disappointing.
I mean, I don't really think that that alcohol is going to burn that long.
I mean, I think once that would is well, the article said that they didn't even try
to put it out.
They just tried to prevent others from catching fire.
Yes.
Yeah.
All your time.
Can you imagine being on site and being the distillery?
I mean, just being the people that work there and you'd be stuck in aging for seven,
10 years.
I mean, it's like, oh, the problem, the you bring up the coverage part.
There was some of the problems.
Some of these companies run into is that they have plenty of building coverage like, you
know, they've 10 million, 100 million, whatever it is.
They they typically traditionally don't have enough business personal property coverage.
Which is side stuff that's not attached, things that you own, stuff in transit, just your
product, the things there and a couch.
So the bourbon inside, let's say it was worth 50 million dollars.
So the building itself was another 50 million.
There are two separate coverages.
You have coverage for the building and you have coverage for your stuff.
Stuff is in it.
And then it's they are, you know, in your stuff and, you know, it could be ingredients.
So you know, the stuff that they make, you know, this, the stills, all that's attached
to the building.
So those would be considered part of the building damages.
But that seems to be a trend that I have had the unfortunate experience having to work
with when people just simply just don't have enough.
And that's a whole different conversation.
I get a little frustrated with some of these business owners out there that, you know,
they own several properties or something in businesses and they're just like everybody
else on the planet.
You know, they're trying to save money.
They go to they do the bare minimum to cover what they think they should.
Well, they go with the thing about it is this, this is all boils down to trust.
I mean, you work with your some does.
I mean, some people are just just like, I don't give a shit.
Give me the lowest.
But there are some that is kind of like, they're, you know, look, I wouldn't know anything about
policies if I didn't do what I do.
So it's just like, you know, when these people are shopping for the perfect policy for them,
they go to an agent and the agent is supposed to understand these things.
And there's a, there's a procedure that you're supposed to do for evaluating what you have
and and putting the correct coverage on there.
And they don't want to be cheaper than the other guy.
Well they, they, they want to get the job.
That's one.
And in the second, maybe, maybe the first year they did do their job.
I don't want to throw them all under the bus.
But let's say the first year they did their job, they assessed how much coverage that was
required and they did it successfully.
Yeah.
But then they grow.
The second year, the second year, the same policy comes into play and it automatically
renews and now you just go over there and they, they, they said, do a docu sign from
a Adobe, which you're very familiar with.
Oh yeah.
You know, it's just an automatic.
He's a professional.
I'm a good reader.
So that, but it's, what about my point?
Yeah, but 10 years later, it's the same policy.
They rinse and repeat the same policy and it doesn't get a thorough review.
And I think that that's wrong because I think that should be the responsibility of the,
the agent to make sure that they're on top of that.
Business theoretically grows and improves and invests.
Oh yeah.
If you went, you went from 30 employees to 170 employees and two more, two more facilities
and, and a hundred trucks.
Yeah.
And I mean, damn, you just tripled your coverage and you didn't.
Well, that's a little frustrating.
That's just a little slice of some of the stuff I, I, I work with and you know, it's
unfortunate.
I hate those conversations, man.
When you're, when you're, well, I guess it depends on how big you are as a business,
but there should be somebody on staff that is like, you're responsible for, you know,
there's a lot of things making sure that you're, you're, you're, your IT coverage is not over.
You know, you don't have more licenses than you're supposed to have because you get sold
the 50,000 licenses and you have a hundred, you know, a hundred employees.
Right.
I mean, there should be people that like are paying attention to what you, what you guys
are paying and how you're sized and.
It's usually the procurement team looking at contracts and.
Yeah.
Absolutely.
Now, now some people aren't big enough to have a contract team.
Right.
And you know, that's where you run into problems, which is what Sean's describing, I would
imagine.
So yeah, that's.
Especially when shit hits the fan.
Well, that's the thing.
You don't care until you do.
And they also don't pay for, they like the carrier may not play, pay for the replacement
of those barrels, meaning they're not going to give you what it yields.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
They may not pay for what the, the materials in it, like, you know, how much it was it
to make the distillate, you know, and to get it into that, bro, they may not pay for the
final product because it was never finished.
So they just pay for the materials.
And that sucks.
Yeah.
That's a huge one picture.
The lower left that has the entire wick house on fire.
Oh, yeah.
That one's just like, damn.
Look at that.
Look at the flames coming off of that bad boy.
One, two, three.
There's nothing you can do with that.
So that's five stories full.
It's got, God knows how many barrels in it.
And that thing is self feeding.
Yeah.
You just let it go.
Oh, yeah.
There's nothing you can do with that.
The only thing you can do is, is, is bombing.
Yeah.
You call it a loss, step away, let the thing burn to the ground.
Protect everything else.
Yep.
So anyway, ranking this, I think in our, in our new world, I'd give this a six.
In the new world.
I think five is good.
Six.
It's slightly better than good.
Yeah.
And, you know, we may want to adjust our, what?
Well, that, but that's not what we said.
We weren't, we're not comparing these two 115 plus.
Like if good for something that's between 80 and 100 proof.
Well, if we're just looking at 100 proof, then that would go higher.
Right.
For me.
So we need to kind of recalibrate the scale.
We've been talking about this.
All right.
So let, so let's just take this moving forward.
I mean, we're probably just going to have to redo it.
Moving forward for all the 100 proofs, comparing them to, you know, we'll just say, you know,
from 90 to 105, right?
Or something like that.
Well, yeah, I was going to, should we do 80 to 100 proof or should we do 80 to 90 proof?
90 to 100.
Yeah.
So 80 to 90, 90 to 100.
Because an 80 proof will never match this.
No.
That's a good point.
Yeah.
So every 10, you know, right.
So 10 to, you know, from 110 to 115, that seems to be a pretty good, I'm sorry, from
110 to 120.
That's a nice, that's perfect range.
Correct.
Yeah.
All right.
Well, good deal.
I'm glad we figured that shit out.
So everything's going to be a seven in every category.
All right.
So do you want to change yours accordingly or you want to?
For, well, one's less, I don't know what the last one we had 100 proofer.
So I'm not comparing it to.
So for starting out, let's say we're just starting out.
This is our first time ever having 100 proof.
I'd probably give this a seven to then.
That's about right for me.
Seven.
I mean, and this is, like I said, I mean, what it boils down to is that will you enjoy
it?
Is it smooth?
If you have a friend that enjoys bourbon and maybe doesn't do 100 proof, they would
enjoy this.
Right.
No question about it.
I would not kick it out of bed.
I'd make a turkey sandwich and.
Yeah.
Julie liked it.
She liked it.
It's got great taste.
Yeah, it is good.
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