to do.
Do do do do.
And do do do do do do do do do.
All right.
Welcome back to the post show.
Dudes like us.
That US.
And we got to the bourbon a little late last
last episode, and we're going to open up.
John's going to talk about what we're drinking.
Oh, yeah, actually, you know, while I'm doing this,
Mr. Pritzker, broken saddle, please.
Broken saddle, bourbon whiskey.
You can pop it up on the screen somewhere on there
because I don't know.
We went to we were talking about in the first half, the
the first half how we went down to
College Station to go visit our kids in college
for a day, basically, and come right back.
But we hit the liquor stores down there.
We noticed, God, we would dispex.
I was like, man, this place has a lot more bourbon.
We're not sure if it's regionally influenced
or if it's just specs in general.
But nonetheless, we went into specs
and we picked out a bunch of bourbons.
We're like, man.
So we came back with with three, technically,
but two of the three were new.
We got early times, the Hunter proof, which is a
it's just it's a solid
stock bourbon that's got a great taste
and will last for a long time.
Early times.
Broken saddle, we have not had.
So it's it's new to us.
And it's not bad.
We tasted the first half.
We had eighteen thirty five.
And it's it's a whiskey.
And we all agreed that it was kind of a mixer
style bourbon because it was just kind of got
that really strong tobacco.
Some people enjoy it.
It's not really for my taste buds.
But this has kind of the opposite.
You know, it's kind of like the
the first one kind of bit on the lower side.
And this one kind of comes from the top.
It's got some sort of
fruit that I can't detect on what it is.
It's got a very unique taste.
And it's just we could pull up some verbiage on it.
I don't I don't taste any fruit in this one.
There's something some odd.
Fire there.
Some sort of mints, something going on.
I thought I tasted some cinnamon, maybe, but no fruit. But.
But it but it's not a bad finish, though.
Well, go back to the other page, please.
Not a bad thing.
So what we are drink, oh, that's that's just talking about bourbon.
That's not talking necessarily about the it's it's broken saddle.
Is there a broken saddle?
Yeah, there's not a lot of info out there on this one.
That's broken barrel.
Yeah, it seems kind of obscure here.
There's not a lot of info.
I'm not finding much on it at all.
To me, it kind of reminds me of wanting to smoke a cigar.
It's got a very
it's got a high.
It's powerful.
Tastes like a hard proof. So 60 percent.
Yeah. You could definitely taste the heat coming in.
But it rolls off really easy. And it's got a.
It's got a hard wheat taste to it.
Wheat. Well, it is.
It is authentic.
It's authentic, though, man.
I mean, it's distilled, aged and bottled in Bardstown, Kentucky.
So, I mean, yeah, Bardstown.
That's one of the places you want to hit when you go on the Kentucky
Bourbon Trail. It seems to be an authentic bourbon.
We just can't seem to find much about it.
So, yeah, interesting.
Not bad. I like it better than what we had previous.
Yes, agreed.
Not my favorite, but it's a good one. Yeah.
Pleased. Yeah.
Paul picked a good one for a change.
I know I've had a bad streak.
Yeah. Your coconut one.
Yeah. Backstreet Boys one.
I'm realizing now that seven ninety nine and down
don't produce the best bourbons.
Yeah, it's usually just colored.
What does that mean? Seven ninety nine and down.
Eight buck bottle of bourbon. Oh, price wise. OK.
No, I don't go that cheap.
I try, you know, I mean, we've been trying to find bourbons that,
that, you know, fall between what?
Twenty and fifty. Right.
Which really less than that.
Twenty and like forty.
I mean, we try to find right.
I mean, I mean, then eventually we want to go to some of the nicer stuff.
Right. We have broad.
We have aspirations of getting like the whistlepig 15 or something like that.
But, you know, frankly, it's Jeff is holding us back.
You know, yeah, it's absolutely.
No, no, no. What's holding us back is, I mean, oh, it's fucking Jeff.
He needs to fucking empty the cabinet out.
We cannot fill the cap.
Now we got Bert, we got bottles of booze
just coming out, falling all over the ground over.
We can't even stuff them in the place anymore. Yep. Yep.
Maybe we'll locate all those other ones on the right books.
Legos, legos. Yeah.
We get rid of that shit.
Yeah, we need we need more room. There's no question.
Yeah, I'll make it to more shows.
And as cool as I think the bulldozer in the Corvette is or Lamborghini
or whatever, they have sentimental value to me.
Well, I'm not saying discard them.
I'm just saying let's throw them out.
No, what did I? Yes.
Well, I meant throw them out of the cabinet.
You don't have to literally throw them out.
Just remove my my plan is to relocate them.
Yeah. And then I'll make two more wood shelves
because I don't like you said the glass shelves.
We can make some shelves and put them in the boys room
when we can load them in on the shelf.
Yeah. Oh, that's true, because I'll move them into Stephen's room.
I got plenty of room in there anyway.
I'm not but my point is, I think we'll get into the higher end bourbons
when when the when bourbon suppliers realize the power
and reach of our podcast
and they start realizing, OK, right.
You need to give them free bottles.
No, we don't need free bottles.
We just know we need to fucking put them.
We need free bottles of very, very pricey bourbon.
No, I don't know what to do.
Then we'll know.
I bet if we were to to to dive into a fifteen hundred dollar bottle
of bourbon, it'd be like Wagyu steak.
It'd be like way off the charts, dude.
Completely uncharted territory.
I'm talking ninety dollar bourbon.
What are you talking about?
Fifteen hundred dollar bourbon. Oh, well, they had a twenty
thousand dollar Louis the 15th. Exactly.
I don't if you're going to ask for something.
You don't want old shit.
We want we want current day.
I want old shit.
I'd say the most I will spend, I should say, because that's not true.
But what is the most you've spent?
Well, I mean, right now it's around that for the Noah's
Mill is probably like 50 something bucks.
That's what the spot how much I spent on.
Yeah, that's basically the high end of what we've been talking about.
Spend more than that. I really don't.
There's a there's a ton of bourbons out there.
That price or lower, the ton.
The thing is, if you want one of those unicorns,
you're going to have to spend some money for it.
You get lucky and find it.
That secret hidden underground railroad unicorn was sitting on that whiskey
we drank last week, that TX.
The TX whiskey. That was good.
It was a good whiskey. Very dessert.
I mean, when I say dessert, praline tasting thing, I'm not saying it was sweet.
I'm not saying it's a liqueur.
I'm not saying pour this over your freaking vanilla ice cream scoop.
I'm just saying it does.
It would be that sounds wonderful.
I've never thought about doing that.
Pouring bourbon over some ice cream.
My wife, my wife would love that.
Really? Now you're having bourbon with your ice cream.
I hear Dick Clark in the background saying, Ding, things alcoholic would say.
Exactly. That's boring.
Bourbon over the ice cream.
You're looking for every excuse to bourbon on everything.
Cereal. Really?
Oh, well, anyway, moving on.
Anyway, I wanted to share something with you guys.
So I watched a movie called Yesterday, and I think you guys had mentioned
that you've seen it. Yes, I have.
I I thought it was a very interesting movie.
So the premise is that this guy, there's some accident.
There's some weird event that happens in the world.
And this guy, you know, wakes up from like a, you know, getting hurt or something.
And he figures out that he's the only dude on the planet
that knows who the Beatles are. Right.
And he remembers every single song.
Well, he that's part of the funny.
That's a part that's part of the funny bit of this whole thing is he's trying
desperately to like remember the words because he has no there's no way to look it up.
Right. I think that's part of the reason why he only chose the Beatles was
because that was the only band they forgot.
I think they had all the rest of the band bands out there,
like the Hootie, the Blowfish, blah, blah, blah.
Molly Hatchet. Yeah. I guess all the bands are out there.
Yeah. Molly Hatchet was really featured heavily in that movie.
Scritty Poulitty. No, no.
Anyway, so I mean, I thought that the movie itself was a tribute,
a tribute to the Beatles. Right.
And they and they talked about how, you know, how the world was just enamored
with learning who the Beatles were for them the first time. Right.
And I thought I thought it was a great movie.
I was going to ask you guys, like, did you grow up listening to the Beatles? No.
OK, so it was a hard no here.
What about you, Sean? No Beatles.
So are we the generation that's like like out of the Beatles?
I like I mean, I'm not saying I don't like them because I think their music is good.
I mean, I don't own any Beatles albums.
I've never have. I've never had a desire.
I don't go to my Amazon music file and say, hey, I want to listen to Beatles.
I don't I don't do that.
So you spent time in your childhood in Germany and they were huge yesterday.
You know, there's a couple of good songs.
You know, hey, June.
I mean, all those songs.
There are some really fantastic songs that the Beatles put out.
And and you've listened to them because you hear them on the radio.
You know, but hold on. That's not what I'm asking.
So when you as a child growing up in Germany, that was, you know, like it wasn't you didn't.
All right. So there are a couple of different eras that you need to recognize.
So the Beatles came out with a ton of songs, but you got to imagine, you know,
the the lead singer John Lennon, Paul McCartney, had his own team out there.
Wings, you know, wings made as much if not more.
I listen to more wings than the Beatles.
Did you know that? No, yeah, no.
I'm a card with wings.
Their band made more than the Beatles did at the time.
You mean number of songs?
More money, more. They were more popular.
I mean, I think because at the time he was a Beatle because he was a Beatle.
So it was kind of a continuation of concerts and shit.
Oh, yeah. I mean, it's good because, you know, Paul McCartney wrote a bunch of the songs
so he could sing a lot of the Beatles songs. Right.
Legally. Right, right, right.
You know, I get it. But they had like man down the road.
But my point is you didn't listen as a kid.
You didn't listen to the Beatles growing up.
Negative. I had I had five or six cassettes and abused them.
Yeah, the whole family. The whole family did.
I mean, like we were, you know, we would play it in the band.
I think that has to do with your parents, too.
I mean, now my parents weren't really music people.
Well, where did you get the cassette tapes?
I when I lived in Indonesia.
So they were playing them. Oh, yeah.
All of it was pirated stuff. Yeah. Yeah.
I mean, that's the way it was over there.
Did they sell like the cheeky gum next to it?
No, no. You they had like that's basically so they had they had music stores
and you would go in there and they had a long was really pirated.
All of it. All of it. It's amazing.
I still have the cassettes. You guys need to see them someday.
But they have a long table in the middle of this little tiny, you know,
no, probably not even the biggest print your own money.
If you have the right equipment out there. Yeah.
So all this shit. So it's about as big as this room, right?
Where they had fit money.
They had all these cassettes, like all these bands.
And in the middle, you had a little cassette players and you could sit down.
You grab paying for this covid stuff is that you grabbed a whole stack of cassettes.
Money. You grab a whole stack of cassettes and you sat down,
you popped them in the machine and you just recorded.
No, no, no. You listen. We're buying them.
Oh, you just listen and whatever you like.
You took up your bottom.
And it was funny about it is they like, you know, everything was pirated.
And the and the cover, like what do you call it? The insert. Right.
They did their best to come up with what the words were of the lyrics.
Oh, they didn't know what it was. They weren't even close.
Yeah. For a lot of these songs, I grew up thinking those were the lyrics.
And then I would like either hear it differently or so yesterday was like tomorrow.
Oh, right. Yeah.
I mean, so he's got pictures of what it kind of looks like.
I mean, and that's basically the way it was.
Well, that's what I want to record. So it's like that here in the States.
Yeah. I mean, they weren't bootlegs.
It was all counterfeit. It was all pirated.
But I used to go in and there'd be you'd go in and I'd face a wall right there
and I'd buy the latest wasp cassette. Yeah.
Yeah, they go. You know, I thought some of the most fantastic things
to to be able to achieve trying to acquire some of these
tracks were to record on the radio because you get a boombox, right?
Oh, yeah. You pop the cassette tape in there.
It's got a record.
So when you're playing the tuner and you're playing the song
and you're Casey Casey with the title of the top 40 countdown, you try
and just write to where you don't get the DJ and you're just like, yeah.
And he's in the number two.
Yeah. And you start to record.
You start right away and it's like tonight. God damn it.
Why did you say that extra word?
You know? Yeah.
Yeah, we would.
We would because we didn't get any TV or radio living in Indonesia
during the summers, we would be in the States and we would record
we buy a whole sleeve of blank tapes.
I thought you said you watched a lot of cartoons over there.
And I'm not not overseas.
Deborah. No, no, no cartoons at all.
They're evil. Evil.
Anyway, but we was record evil.
Yeah, no, it's just very uncomfortable.
No, but we would record radio on all these tapes
and then we would just listen to it during the year
during the months that we were not in the States.
Yeah. I mean, that was our closest thing to getting like, you know,
American culture, American radio.
But I still have all those things.
I look at that boombox.
Well, any of them really.
But well, those are that's a really nice one.
But I remember we had a boombox and I remember walking down the street
with Motley Crue, Motley Crue, shout out the devil on your shoulder.
Yeah. Was it Motley Crue shot of the devil?
No, don't don't.
Oh, my God. That was the shit.
Oh, yeah. Shout at the devil with the with a radio on the shoulder
walking down the street with ripped jeans.
And I remember I had this Levi's jean jacket and my sister had my sisters.
Well, she was at the time talented.
She would take bleach and she would do artwork on the back of
Levi jackets and she would draw these little designs.
It was cool as shit. That is cool.
And I think she did the album to the Joshua tree with bleach on the back
of a jacket back then. You know, you to like she could probably do that.
With like a stencil. I mean, how would I don't know how she did.
I never asked. That's really cool.
I do that today and sell that shit.
You probably could. Oh, it's all coming back.
I'm sure that's what I mean. Yeah.
So, yeah, you're right.
We had the bigger boomboxes that we had on our shoulders
and then that gave way to the Walkman.
Oh, yeah. Yeah.
And that's that's when it became the handheld.
And that was crazy, too, because they had the big Walkman
that had the tuner that was with the Walkman and big yellow one.
And sometimes he had this the Walkman that was a big ass Walkman,
but it didn't have a cassette player.
It was just the tuner. And that was still the coolest thing.
I loved my Walkman. That was like that.
It was so bad. I don't know if I had the Sony version,
but there's there were all kinds of versions of that out.
Oh, yeah. They had.
They had. Have you ever had the double decker Walkman
where you could fit two cassettes on one?
I've never even heard of that. Yeah. It's out there.
Really? Yeah. I remember this this kid.
I'll say his name because his name is Reeves Hubbell.
That's a fake name. Is it?
Reeves Hubbell? Reeves Hubbell.
If you're listening, Reeves, call in.
I think that's a fake name.
No, I mean, I've.
Why would you pluralize his first name?
That's his name.
So he Sean is pluralizing it.
Well, what is that first name? Is it Reeves or Reeves?
Well, you said Reeves. Yeah, Reeves.
That's plural.
R E E V E S Hubbell, as in the hubble telescope.
Right. So it's like he owns the hubble.
Well, it's not apostrophe. Yes, it's just Reeves.
Hey, Reeves, I know.
But when you're just talking, hey, that's Reeves Hubbell.
Well, that's Reeves Reeves Hubbell.
Reeves. What was Reeves Hubbell doing?
Reeves Hubbell owned the double Decker Walkman radio.
He would he was like the decade because he would have like,
you know, the scorpions came out with the double plat or the double album.
And so he would have the scorpions on both sides. Yeah.
I've never seen that before.
Yeah. He was like the first one.
I was like, you're an asshole. How'd you get that?
I mean, that is what my parents love me more.
So 90. So one if I remember correctly, one tape was 90 minutes of recording.
Yeah. Well, 45 on each side.
45 on each side. That's right.
They made all kinds. There was a 90.
There was 60. There's a 30. There's 60.
Most of it was 60. There's 120 as well.
Oh, yeah. That's right.
But how many times were you sitting there with your pencil?
Rewinding it back up.
Yeah. Well, well, making sure it was tight so it didn't get caught
and get eaten taught. Yes.
Yeah. Yeah. It come out and get twisted.
How many times did you get twisted?
And you're like, I need to untwist it.
But you have to find where it got twisted. What a mess.
So you're pulling it all out.
And you add what you were also like it was like brain surgery
because you were like so careful not to fuck it up.
After that brain surgery, have you ever like just like given up
and just snipped it and then gone in and surgically applied a piece of tape?
Yes. A small piece of tape and mended it.
Yes, I did. I never did that.
I threw the whole damn thing away. How stupid am I? Very, very. Wow.
Easy, guys.
This is very hurtful.
Just think of that.
That kind of yeah.
Were you guys ever a member of the Columbia House and that?
I'll send you 30 cassettes for a penny and then CDs
and then CDs. Wow.
I did that.
Yeah. And you got that send you a monthly thing.
I saw that. But I mean, it was locked down.
And then you had to make sure you sent like you responded in time. Right.
But you never did. Yep. Then you get these crappy tapes.
You didn't want CDs and they were counting on that.
Yeah, that's how they made their money.
You owe us thirty eight dollars for this cassette.
I remember parents would be like, you what?
I remember you tell me it was going to be a penny.
I remember I remember sitting down and doing all the math. Oh, yeah.
I was like, because remember, you had to buy a certain number of them
after the initial deal. Right.
You know, to fulfill your obligation.
So I remember writing it all down on paper.
I was like, OK, I got 10 for a penny.
And then I have to do what I calculate all out.
And I'd be like, I'm getting these for four ninety nine a CD.
This is a freaking killing.
Of course, I'm getting all these extra CDs that I forgot to write.
Send back. Yes.
They usually set a card, didn't they? Yes.
And you had to. Yeah.
You said you will get this CD within 10 days if you do not return this card.
And I just could never do it.
Yeah. And it takes a stamp and all that good stuff.
Yes. And it never happened.
But I think I think there were some people, some friends who did this
who just scammed the shit out of Columbia House.
How would they do that?
They would they would give them like, I don't know, their fake names
and fake names and addresses, and they'd get like their 30 free CDs
and that'd be it.
You know, they'd have a go to their friend's house or something like that.
That's actually fantastic.
I mean, that's horrible.
Yeah, that is horrible.
And then they'd send it there.
Yeah. What recourse did they have? Right. Yeah.
On behalf of or if you move a lot like when you're in college,
when you're in college and you have a different address every single year.
Right. You know, just time it.
You can get your free 30. Next thing you know, I don't live there anymore.
I'm back home or I'm in a new address next year.
I really screwed myself by being an honest person. I don't think
I really should have been one of those schmucks that like, you know,
there's a lot of people who did that.
A lot of folks in college, I know, would just have these impeccable
music collections. It's like, how the hell did you get all this?
Oh, you do it this way.
That's horrible. It's like, well, shit.
But I don't think in all fairness, those CDs were expensive
and there's no reason for them to be.
I mean, they were they were 1299.
Right. Well, that's expensive for what it cost to make them.
No, no, no, no. It was.
Yeah. They pressed the shit out of those.
Remember when they first came out CDs there in the big letterbox boxes?
Yeah. What was your very first CD ever?
It was Freedom Rock.
Oh, like a compilation.
A member of the TV. Yeah. Member of the 60s hippie music.
Oh, it was a compilation of those. Freedom Rock.
It was it was to freedom rock.
Yeah. Look, if you call now, we're throwing.
I don't have the radio voice. You have the radio voice.
Yeah. There it is right there. Freedom Rock.
Oh, that is funny.
And what how I got that is I think someone did the Columbia House
and the apartment that I was living in in college,
it got mailed to there and it was Columbia House.
That was your first.
And that was I didn't even have a CD player yet. Right.
And I got it.
And I was looking I was like, I didn't know much of the music.
It's a lot of 60s music.
Ended up getting the CD player based off of that.
I was like, well, I want to listen to it.
Oh, of course. You know, this is the new wave.
I remember
I was living in New Jersey and this is right before I moved to El Paso.
And I want to say it was eighty three to eighty five, eighty four, eighty four,
five, whatever.
My dad comes home with the CD player.
And my first one was the Pink Floyd, the final cut.
Remember, I was telling you, I was living in living in El
and what the hell, New Jersey on Fort Monmouth.
And the soldiers would be doing the calisthenics on the back.
And I told you, yeah, speakers up to the final cut and play that
that and harass the soldiers.
Yes, they would have five hundred bucks for that.
Man, I tell you, that's one of my that's one of my favorite albums.
I mean, it's still today.
I mean, it's I enjoy.
More than.
God bless it, the the wall. Right.
I never was a Pink Floyd fan.
Are you able to pull up the tracks that were on that album?
If not, the one the Biden's tearing down.
Is he tearing it down?
I know he's just not he's just not finishing it.
So, OK, let me sidetrack this while Austin looks for the thing.
You know, with them with them stopping production on the wall,
you know, Trump has these contracts that are set in place right now.
And it's actually costing the United States citizens
more money to not do it, not finish it. I know that to finish it.
I know it doesn't make sense.
It's all idealistic stuff.
It's just start with the the very first track.
Is there any way you could play that? No, can't.
Well, the first that's only like the first 10 seconds.
The post war dream.
These are all obscure Pink Floyd songs.
So I wouldn't even want to listen to it.
Oh, but they're man outside the final.
Well, now are you able to hit final countdown?
Go hit that sample up there.
Yeah, that see what happens.
Oh, great.
So does it bring back memories?
You know, it's it's actually number eight.
Oh, here we go.
Maybe it's on the second side.
He's going to flop around this whole CD looking for
there you go.
Oh, that's what you would play to the soldiers.
Yeah. What a little asshole you were.
Oh, my God.
This song right here, it's it's Bush.
It's
English. Well,
they this is a political song right here.
Brezhnev took Beirut.
Galtier took the Union Jack.
Oh, my God.
And Maggie overlaunched one day took a cruiser.
I like all.
Neil Diamond.
I think exactly what I was going to say.
You sound like Neil Diamond bag.
Neil Diamond singing Pink Floyd.
I must cry.
No, not I.
All right.
So you were you were talking about
the first CD, the first CD, I may have interrupted you,
but the final cut was mine and I thought it was it was fantastic.
My dad bought it for me and I was can't remember anything
bought anything else after that.
But I listened to that one over and over and it was it was the cause.
You know, when we first started with our CD collection, we didn't have very money.
It wasn't like we went out and bought three hundred dollars with the CDs.
No, I mean, my friend, my friend got me on on he he he was the one that told me,
you know, you got it, you got to do these CDs.
They're amazing.
Blah, blah, blah, blah.
And so I went ahead and went and bought a see, I was working at a movie theater
and I went and I went and bought my own CD player and he bought me
Scarecrow, John Cougar, Mellon Camp.
Oh, yeah. Great album. Yeah.
And that was my first CD.
And I like you, I like you with Pink Floyd.
I played the shit out of it.
Yep. I played the shit out of that Freedom Rock because I had one CD. Yeah.
Yeah. But your one CD was a compilation.
There was actually had a lot of good music on it.
A lot of it I didn't know, but I ended up learning it and it was good stuff.
Yeah. And you know, Diamond.
I don't believe so.
No, no, no, Diamond on your Freedom Rock.
Yeah. And Freedom Rock was like, you know, sixties,
seventies that probably had some funk on there or was it like grass?
No funk. It was all it was all hippie sixties music.
I want to know what Joan Baez.
Monday, Monday.
Put that up. Freedom Rock.
What was the playlist on Freedom Rock?
Freedom Rock.
Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom.
That's Motown.
Well, it didn't have any of that on there.
Yeah. What are you talking about?
You know, I'm trying to fill the blanks here.
Yeah, you are. I was danced.
What part of what about what about my girl screams freedom rock to you?
Yeah, that's what you were singing.
Yeah. See the birds.
I'd love to change the turn, turn, turn locomotive breath.
But Jeff Toto.
Now we talked about war, good God.
What is
was I on cue there?
But that's Edwin Starr.
That's not a jump into the fire.
You know, black magic woman.
Yeah, this was all like antiwar stuff. Exactly right.
That's why I said the hippie shit.
Yeah, no, you're right.
You know, you're right.
A lot of stuff I've never heard of.
I bet you if you played it, we would recognize it.
I guarantee you. I guarantee you'd recognize probably.
Actually, this is a good this is a good one.
The Ramblin' Man, but the the Allman Brothers, Linda Skinner,
the guess who Elton John Ocean.
Three Dog Night. OK.
Your hand in the hand.
Yes, I know I've heard that.
It was a how does that go?
It was a two disk deal to do this. Nice.
Yeah. And it was free.
Like I said, I think someone did the
put your hand in the hand.
How does that sound?
Put your hand in the hand.
Is that you're saying?
Yeah. Well, you don't.
Well, let's see. You get to work from there.
They're doing anything.
Now, it just keeps we got to sign into Amazon music.
Well, with the Hitler mustache.
Actually, you know what I do? I probably
I probably need to sign into
Amazon music when we do these shows so we can play the music, the songs.
Yeah.
I mean, I got interesting
advertisements within the up there with the the military
little shirt.
Yeah. Very what they do with the huge pectoral muscles.
Yeah, that's a bit much.
Yeah. Thank you.
Thank you. We're 50.
And thank you for that.
And we have moved.
We're showing us what we'll never be.
Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. We have moves now.
Well, I'm actually pretty close to that.
But yeah, no, I'm not.
I'm trying to do push ups and pull ups.
And that's about all I can do there.
I mean, it's not getting there.
But it's a good one.
If you like the kind of music, it's a good CD.
It's a lot of good music on there.
I didn't know much about it.
Like I said, I probably never would have bought it,
but it showed up at my doorstep.
But I was like, score.
Yeah. Interesting. Thank you.
Maybe spend sixty dollars on my Magnum box CD player.
Whose name was on the package?
Shit, that was.
We was 30 years ago.
I have no idea.
So I mean, I'm saying it wasn't yours.
No, it showed up, but it's I it sat on the counter
just in case someone showed up for it.
No one ever did.
And we showed up for it.
And we opened it right.
Ended up getting a CD player.
I remember the first CD player I bought was the single loader.
That's all was out there.
Mine was a Magnavox.
And then and then when the five changer came out,
I had the carousel five disc change.
Oh, five, six carousel, six changer.
Eight. No, no, six and a half.
Twelve. And so, yeah, you had this, you know,
the turning carousel type thing.
And then they had the other ones that had the big like a magazine.
Yeah, exactly.
Then you had the hundred, which was like a big jukebox.
Yeah, that was a true carousel.
I thought that was straight up.
I thought that was like overkill.
Well, then you have to remember, OK, just 33.
You have to have a list to go through to remember all the cartridges.
You'd have like, which, you know, I've got the Floyd cartridge.
It has five albums on this cartridge.
You slap it in there.
It was kind of cool.
Yeah.
So OCD people were going crazy.
Then came the then, you know, windows came out, the basic windows 98.
And you're able or maybe 2000 and you're able to load in your
your audio CD and windows will actually go and find the language on there.
And you'd be able to see the print, the artwork, the artwork,
the the lineup of what songs are on there.
And you can grace note. Was that called grace note?
I don't know. Oh, but I know there was something where you can do a legal backup
of that CD if you own it. Yeah.
But how they going to know you own it. It's yours.
That's the challenge. You say if you own the CD, you can make a backup of it.
So that was it. You pop the CD and that's how I got a lot of that's how I started
that whole process is I would get my CD, pop it in the CD room and I'd upload it
onto the hard drive. But it was in a wave format.
Yeah. So it was a very huge, enlarged file.
So you couldn't you know, they knew that.
So they were like, we're going to say this in wave, you know, the quality is a little
bit better because it's a little bit more stretched out.
But then once the MP3 came out and they came up with the wave converters to the MP3,
then it was on. Then you just basically do a batch conversion.
Even when it was in wave format, you could buy the the blank disk and you had a CD read,
write. Oh, yeah. And you can burn it. Yeah.
Yeah, those were sketchy, though. They didn't always work.
Those read, write. You're like you have to buy you had to buy certain disks.
So you had write once disk, but then you had to read, write ones we could keep.
The read, writeable ones. RW.
But they weren't all that reliable.
It was like if you bought the wrong one, then it wouldn't work.
So you had to buy. I just threw away a big old stack of blank read, writeable.
Blank read. Yeah. I mean, I don't even know if you can use those.
Do they even make machines to do that? I don't know.
That's a good question. God, there was a you know, you got to imagine.
I owned my own DJ karaoke company.
So I was mass producing my stuff. Of course, it was a probably should say that out loud.
But I'd buy the originals and I had a couple setups and I'm not buying,
you know, three complete setups of my original.
So I just basically copied it.
And then when things started going digital where you didn't have to have the CD
and I could just completely convert it by external hard drives and then go out there.
Shit, man, I remember when I started DJing, I would have to carry out albums, record albums.
When I had two techniques, twelve hundreds out there spinning and I'd show up
and I have to bring like 20 crates of albums in. Oh, wow.
Talk about getting a little workout, you know, especially when you show up to a function
that you don't know what's going on, at least with a wedding or something.
You have kind of a stock playlist that you can bring. This is going to work.
This is going to work. You're talking about vinyl like I'll talk about vinyl LP.
You know what? Those would be worth now. All those.
They wouldn't know that we're making a huge comeback.
Not really. It is a niche market. Yeah, it's not.
Hey, look, I'm telling you, I did my due diligence trying to get my money back on those albums.
And when I tell you I had thousands, I had a lot and I tried liquidating them
and it got to the point where I couldn't give them away.
But when when when are you talking about? I'm talking about I'm talking about like five years.
Well, I'm talking like 15 years ago. Right.
Well, back then it wasn't hadn't really made a resurgence, I think.
Shit. Twenty years ago. Just now things start to go.
But still, I think vinyl is a niche market. Yeah, it is.
You know, I think it was closer to 20.
But there are some people out there that like it because they do vinyl.
I like the vinyl. They swear that it sounds better than anything else.
It really does. It really does. I mean, you know, for someone that has that type of ear,
vinyl definitely makes a better sound, you know.
And then the problem with the way they're selling vinyl, the way they package it up for people to take home,
they sell these little tiny little fucking piece of shit record players.
Yeah. And they have these little built in speakers and they are the way you play.
You put a record on the end and you play the fucking thing with you.
No, it's fucking retarded. You don't fucking play.
You might as well play an AM radio station through that one little single speaker.
Little transistor. I wanted to walk up to that dude that I was playing.
I went to his house like for my job and I was, you know,
and I walk in there and I start doing my thing and I walk in this room and he saw Bragg.
He's over here. I'm like, oh my God, really?
You went to Robert De Niro's house?
You knew him growing up or what? Yeah.
I slapped the tapioca out of his mouth.
Oh, I'm sorry. I'm a little disgruntled with that came out of nowhere.
I should not have brought up his name. It just triggers all of us here.
But the thing about it is that nowadays they're selling these cheap ass record players
to play the vinyl on that does two things.
It sounds horrible and it destroys your fucking record because they use
shitty needles to fuck out of here.
It's got to have the perfect balance where it doesn't gouge the LP.
I mean, it's a process. I mean, you're reading it.
And it's all about from the tip of that needle up the arm into the system.
And it comes in hot too. It comes in hot.
I know this might be a left turn here, but you know, we talk about how stuff works,
like knowing how, like, you know, how does it go from there's some grooves on a
freaking piece of plastic with a needle that is, you know, moving up and down or whatever.
That's amazing. I can't wrap my head around it.
I know it. And we actually one night we were like debating this and we got on Google
and it tried to walk us through and we still couldn't get it.
You know, someone invented that.
I know it just doesn't make sense to me.
You could take a cactus needle and a large styrofoam cup.
And if you were to take a record album, put it on the turntable and spin it and put the
cactus needle into the track and let it just roll, the reverberation will come through
that styrofoam cup.
Yeah, I just don't even understand it.
It's amazing. I don't.
Obviously it's easy for some people.
It says right there, electromagnetic devices that change sound vibrations into
electrical signals. Like what?
Who figured that out?
I don't know.
Was that Edison?
Well, it started off on those cylinders.
They record them on the cylinders.
Who did do that? Was it Edison?
I don't know.
Then you had the old Victrola's, right?
Where you turn it with the big horn coming out and everything and the big ass arm would
come down with a needle.
What's amazing to me is we're like...
What are we dealing with?
We're talking late 1800s, early 1900s. We're over a hundred years.
We're well into like 130 years later and still the common American has no freaking clue
how any of this shit works.
Like how TV signals show up on a picture, how radio works.
I mean nowadays it's like Alexa played the movie.
Yeah, we have no concept of how that technology works and these guys were
figuring out this shit and inventing it 140 years ago.
My favorite one is Alexa Shuffle Shawn's 80s. That's all I say.
Yeah.
Sorry, Jeff.
For what?
I'll cut you off.
Oh.
Amazing technology.
Well, it is. I remember back in the day when you were younger the joke you always tried
to pull over on someone was how many grooves are in a record?
Okay.
One.
Just one long one.
Yeah.
Yeah, right.
Can you people go, well, no, just 10,000 of them.
You know, there's a...
It's one long one.
One long one.
I remember watching one of the That's Incredible or...
Real People.
Real Sex.
There was some dude...
Real Sex.
Real Sex 6.
...that could pick up an album and look at the grooves on an album and tell you what
that album was.
Who could do that? Who could do that?
There was this guy. They could do it.
An audiophile.
He would...
Basically, you pick up the record and you could see...
He could see the grooves on the record.
I think that's gotta be some level of autism or something.
Before you just see that.
He's a great man.
I don't want to down the guy. He didn't look like he did not have autism.
Well, no.
I'm just saying there's different levels of it where your brain just works at a different
level.
Totally.
And I think that's what...
Record.
If you could just look at the grooves and say either that or it was a scam.
That's crazy.
There you go.
So, well, people could always have turned on an American doctor who had the superhuman
ability to recognize vinyl records with his naked eye just by looking at the grooves of
a vinyl record.
Philadelphia resident and physician Arthur B. Linting can identify a phonograph recording
in just a matter of seconds as a much blogger, Alan Cross, via the highly sensitive and creative
blog details.
This guy's clearly in the spectrum.
That's what I mean.
There's something going on.
No, absolutely.
Tone deaf.
I mean, you can see because the guy had like he had spectacles on and I'm not sure if they're
magnifying glasses.
It's too bad that you got to run through this gauntlet to be able to see the details of
this.
I hate websites sometimes.
There's so much bullshit.
Look at all these ads.
This lady's nostrils are in front of us and she's like eight different times.
Yeah, but it's all about making money, man.
You can't just do everything for free on the internet.
Well, how is that making money?
It's just pissing us off.
Ads.
We didn't click on it.
Arthur B. Linton.
Yeah, I guess that too.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Linton.
Capri and Pace said you got to look at the guy because he's I mean, it's it's remarkable.
He was picking out current.
Right there.
Hip hop songs he was doing.
Well, I mean, there wasn't hip hop.
He was he was like, you know, 1812, the literature, Tchaikovsky.
You know, he was just like, shoot, shoot out of his mouth.
I was like, are you kidding me?
And they put the record on the turntable and sure enough, boom.
And they were like, all right, you can't see this, can you?
That's what I mean.
I mean, is it a scam or is he how could you do?
So one thing you have to have super eyesight.
No.
OK.
To be able to see the grooves.
I can tell.
You wore glasses.
OK.
Look, I'm not I'm not a genius.
I'll tell you, I've played a lot of records with my experience.
So if I find one random album, you'll be able to tell it.
No, I can't.
What I did is that's what he does, but with specific songs.
But what I'm telling you is that I have done my shows and I've looked at albums and I could
count the tracks on that's not looking at the but there's but there are different sounds
that a record can make that have a different reflection.
You know, and you could actually you can see and I could tell if I want an extended cut
or not an extended cut, I could see where the chorus line is.
Sure.
You can see that.
That's what I'm saying.
That's what he's looking for.
And he could see I'm not talking about the the the line in there that separates track
one from track two.
I'm talking about like the main part of the song goes into the chorus.
That's amazing.
I don't know.
All right.
So then you move on to CDs and that is it's completely different.
It is different.
I don't see it do with a CD.
But there's no, no, no.
That's not what I mean.
No, but there's there's grooves in there, too.
There's grooves in there because there's not.
Yeah, there are.
And that's and it's like the front door and it's light that is makes the CD work.
Right.
You've never seen you.
I love it. You could see the difference between the part that has a recording because it records
from the inside out.
Yeah.
But I haven't seen lines.
There's lines.
Yeah.
Absolutely.
Oh, I never looked.
I never really thought about it.
Yeah.
I used to look at that all the time because when CDs would skip, you have to find the
scratch and you're like, where is it?
Where is it at?
And you turn it over and you could see where it was where it was burnt into it.
Yep.
There you go.
Hey, lands and pits.
Data encoded by using lands and pits.
You know, it's it's a shame that the kids nowadays don't have the pleasure of going
through this torture.
You know, when when you have to actually respect the things that you own, you know, nowadays
that they want music, it's just like I said, Alexa, play this now.
Back then, it was like you have to have the disk and you have to just you got to take
care of it.
If you drop it.
Oh, my God.
And then they come up with this anti scratch or not the anti scratch, but the scratch fixer
where you pop it in this little thing and you spin it and it's this little and you apply
this this crystal jazz all over it and you just keep spinning it.
Just go home.
Go back to cassettes.
I mean, you're you're freaking the end of this one side.
You're you're opening the thing up, flipping the thing over and the tape gets stuck and
then click and play.
Yeah.
Or if you want to go listen to that song again, because you hate the second side, then you
got to fucking put rewind on. Yep.
And wait for the damn thing to go all the way back.
Then you had the cool cassette players that would find the spaces in between and stop
automatically.
So you just hit forward and would stop.
Oh, that was the songs that had the it wasn't enough space and would just blow through it.
It would piss you off.
Oh, yeah. You get all pissed off and stop it and go back again.
And then and then you'd give up and be fucking.
I'll just wait for that dead space.
Well, what do I do?
I get started DVDs that are coming out.
All right.
You just go to the DVD collection and then you start having kids.
Right.
Actually, it didn't happen in that order because I had VHS tapes first.
But the my kids, including the Xbox games, some of my kids, I'm not mention who their
names are, but some of the kids, but fucking true to God, busting CDs and the video game
discs.
Right. I'm not saying they're sitting in here being the producer.
I'm just saying it happened.
Yeah, we had a we had a huge library.
Yeah.
Of VHS tapes.
All the Disney movies.
Oh, yeah.
Then we then you graduate.
I had all the other one X files.
I finally threw away all the VHS tapes that you can't even sell that shit.
I threw them all away.
You talk about X files, X files.
Yeah, I know my mother is we're huge X file fans.
My wife and I when it was on back in the was at the late 90s.
Yeah.
We watched all of them and Scully and Mulder Scully and Mulder.
There you go.
It's a popular show.
Yeah.
And we got the entire show on VHS every single season.
Right.
It was like a Christmas gift.
You know, for your Christmas gift, you get season one and your birthday, you get season
two because that show it went from two.
It went from 93 to 2018.
No, there was a huge break in between.
Oh, OK.
Huge, huge break and like 15 years or I don't know if it's that long, but it was a long
break.
But yeah, these these videos that hack right there.
That's right.
Who's the girl?
Scully Scully.
Scully, she got pregnant and wanted to raise her kids.
That's why the break was right.
Oh, I don't know.
Oh, I've never heard that.
But, you know, it went sideways, just like every show out there does.
Sure.
But we really enjoyed it.
I had that for years and years and years and years and it sat on the shelf.
Never watched them.
Yeah.
You never go back and watch them.
It's difficult.
I mean, it's a different.
This is because we're lazy.
Well, OK, set aside the fact that you may not have been interested in it.
If you were interested in it, then there's another step involved, because if you got
a VHS tape.
All right.
Here's what I got to do.
I'm going to watch it.
Then I got to rewind it.
What?
It's like fucking empty in the garbage.
I got to rewind it.
Well, each each cassette had like three episodes on it.
So you're like, well, I want I want I want this episode.
So you're fast forwarded through two episodes and you're trying to figure out what
happened.
And you're trying to figure out when to stop it.
All right.
So you're like, shit, I went too far.
I didn't go far enough and whatnot.
The other crazy thing about VHS was when you would pop in the tape and then there'll be
all these fricking static lines all over the TV and you had to press the tracker.
Oh, yeah.
You had to move the tracker up and down.
Yeah.
The tracker button.
And that would get to to get it to go away.
You'd move the heads on the.
OK.
I always wondered what the hell what the hell is the tracker doing to make your move?
And either it's either the tape on the heads or the heads.
It's probably the tape.
So it's moving correctly over the tape heads.
So it was like misaligned or.
Yeah, that's exactly what it was.
OK.
I never knew that.
Yeah.
There's so many.
But that's the thing, man.
We grew up with all these crazy technologies and this and what would be considered like
so archaic or medieval compared to the TV right there.
The producers pulled up the guts of a VHS player.
I know we have all looked at this, right?
You have got to have taken apart.
I have.
I've had to take out a peanut butter jam sandwiches out of mine all the time.
And so you think it's all kinds of shit.
You would think it's a freaking atomic bomb with how intricate and all these freaking
million little pieces of gadgets.
It's amazing to eject one of those cartridges.
All the stuff it's got to do.
Pins drop down.
It's got to have a little flap down.
Or that everything's going to work in sequence itself as a little door.
Yeah.
That protects the tape.
Yeah.
That would come up.
Yeah.
If you wanted to see it, you could put it on the side that you could lift it up.
Yeah.
I remember.
I'm an engineer involved in that.
I remember one of my kids stuck a penny, shoved a penny into the CD player in the car.
And it quit working.
And so I pulled the thing out of there, started taking out all the little tiny screws and
shit.
And then it got it got intimidating really quickly, right?
Because you're trying to remember, OK, that little piece goes on top of that little piece.
I mean, it was like a freaking rector set.
It was.
And they were tiny little pieces.
And I could see the penny.
I could see it in there.
But I was trying to figure out how to get to it.
And then you I'm also thinking static electricity.
I'm touching shit I shouldn't be touching my fingerprints, all this kind of stuff.
Anyway, so I finally got to it, put the whole damn thing back together and I'll be damned
if it worked.
Really?
Yeah.
It's amazing.
He had three screws left over though.
You always.
There's always something left over.
They're rattled a little bit.
Yeah.
And you're hoping you're hoping it just didn't affect it.
Never every time the laser got into a certain point in the outer layer, it just turned off
automatically.
So you only have to watch two thirds of a movie.
No, it just doesn't play tracks eight through ten ever.
There you go.
You can never finish it.
Damn it.
Those are the best songs too.
Right.
That's great.
I mean, I don't have as much experience as Jeff does, but a lot of my friends had like
porn on the VHS tape.
Oh yeah.
Experience me?
Why don't you enlighten us?
I didn't have any porn on tape.
Well, I mean, you didn't personally own any, but you seem to have all the stories where
you were sitting with all your friends watching porn.
Are you talking about home videos with your three female roommates?
What are we talking about?
No.
No, no, no, no.
I remember the parental unit decided he got some video tapes from some friends.
Video tapes from some friends at work, of course.
And I don't know if he ever watched it.
Parental unit.
So you stumbled on it?
Yeah.
Well, he told us.
I got these.
And then was kind of forgotten about.
He got this lock box.
It's like the it was like the Walmart of the 80s lock box.
This thing was so cheap.
And I.
His dad had the JCPenney's take it home VHS camera system.
I guess he would do some home videos as well.
No, no, no.
Oh, God.
Why?
Don't make a horrific story out of this.
Yeah, I know.
Broke into the safe, played it and said, Hey, Jeff, go out there and play this one.
And then, you know, all the guys are like, Oh, my God, look, that's Mrs. Brown.
What is she doing?
No, but I figured out how to scarring with that with my mom.
I figured out how to pick the lock.
Of course.
Yeah.
I mean, it's a career for you.
And of course, when a career of lock picking, lock picking.
No, I don't know how I did it, but I figured out if I if I use this and this, I could I could pick the lock.
And of course, at that point, you're what, 14 or 15?
You're like, guys, you got to come over and see this.
You hosted porn party.
Yes.
And after school, before the parents came home, we'd all be huddled around the TV, the little 19 inch color TV,
and we'd all be watching what was the first one called Taboo?
American Taboo?
No, just Taboo.
Is this a porn?
Oh, yeah, I've seen it.
And it's about a mother and a son.
All right.
Well, we can just have this stepmother, though, right?
No, no.
Real mother.
That's not taboo.
Yes, taboo.
That's gross.
No, I'm sorry.
I mean, they were.
That may be the name of the movie, but that's not the definition.
What's wrong with that?
That's not taboo.
Well, I mean.
You meant the title.
Yes, I know.
Yes.
So obviously in real life, these guys, these two were porn stars and stuff like that.
But that was one.
And I can't remember the rest.
But yeah, we'd have, you know, viewing sessions for real quick before the parents came home.
Of course, you have to rewind it to the exact same spot.
Here's the thing.
Yeah, because your dad would be like, you know, based on my experience, kids always figure out a way.
I mean, what do you I don't what's the end game here?
What do you mean?
It's to look at naked people.
Yeah, but bumping uglies.
I mean, you're going to walk away from the house just kind of like, I feel dirty.
Why my pants?
You know, so I remember, God, what was I in fourth?
No, fifth, fifth grade, sixth grade.
So I lived in Indonesia and I had this Dutch friend.
Right. And I went over to his house.
No, it was a guy.
And I went over to his house.
He invited me over to his house and his parents were weird.
Right. And they were.
They were those Dutch guys.
They had this weird house.
They had this weird house that the entire house was encompassed a pool.
There was a pool in the middle of the house.
Really? Yes.
Very strange.
Was it like swimming?
It was open. It was open air.
So it's like a house built around.
Yes.
Is there a rhino?
No rhinos, but they were skinny.
His parents, his Dutch parents were skinny dipping in the pool.
And I was like, goldfish.
I don't need to see this.
Like this is that they were skinny dipping.
Yes.
Well, you checked her out, right?
No, a gross.
They were both like tall and super skinny and it was nasty.
But anyway, so this friend.
Does she have like pancake boobs?
You know what? I don't remember.
Skin flaps.
I think they were.
Oh my God.
Anyway, so he.
Was it cold?
So he had access to, I guess his parents watched all sorts of porn and it wasn't locked up or anything.
Gosh.
I mean, I guess the Dutch are very liberal.
So was it Asian porn?
Hey, look.
No, no, no.
In defense to what you're saying, Paul.
It was European porn.
The European culture is well.
It's like huge bush.
Asian.
The culture outside of the United States, excluding North America, I'd say mostly the European Eurasia area.
Very open minded.
They've they've I'm telling you, when I lived in Germany.
Everyone was in the 80s.
They would have.
Yeah. Well, the commercials on TV, they would have like zest body soap commercials and you would see boobies.
There'd be boobies.
I remember, you know, because we had the Armed Forces Network, the the Armed Forces Network.
You watch TV.
Little Sean.
That's what I.
I would watch.
They had the channel with the Armed Forces Network was on.
And then, you know, my mom was like, I will turn the TV off since the English speaking was off.
And I was like, I don't want to turn it off.
I just want to watch.
So I would sit there and watch German television.
And I had no idea what was going on.
I found out.
But I was kind of like, you know, because I remember there was a commercial.
This lady was coming out of the shower and someone was handing her something.
And so she dropped her robe and she goes, oh, and I was like, I couldn't believe what I saw.
I was like, what the hell is this?
All kinds of fireworks were bursting.
Yeah.
Your Europe has a different mindset, man.
At least they did back then.
But, man, these Dutch parents.
I mean, yeah, he they he didn't have to search for him or anything.
He just opened up a little cupboard there and pulled out some videos.
I was like, what?
They like watched as a family.
What the hell is this?
Yeah, it is.
Is it once you invite your friend Paul over to see if he'd come out to the courtyard and talk to me for a little bit.
They're not Colombian.
Hey, Paul, you're a vodka.
Why don't you bring your friend Paul out to the courtyard so we could have some vodka?
What?
Whatever.
So the guy was asking you to come out to the courtyard to sit with him.
He was naked. He said he was kind of skinny and flat.
So it was his chimichanga.
The kid wasn't my friend wasn't his parents were skinny.
That's what I know.
But they walk around with like junk and everything.
Yeah. I mean, they just were kind of swimming and then they got out and they and they and they towed off and wrapped themselves in the towel and came in the house.
I mean, but the entire pool area was surrounded by rooms and big glass.
I mean, you can see everything.
I was like, what the hell is going on here?
That's kind of strange.
But I mean, but it was exposed to the elements and it was like a hot tub or was a pool.
It was a square pool surrounded completely surrounded all four sides with rooms.
If you were like in my situation where there's no one else in the house, that'd be ideal.
You could go out there and go nude.
But if your kids and your kids friends are over.
But and it wasn't like, oh, I'm sorry, like covering themselves up.
They were like, oh, hello. How are you?
And yeah, Jeff was popping his nipples.
I don't know.
No, that was the slapping sound.
That's a slap.
What the fuck are you playing?
That is not the slap we're talking about, Paul.
Paul. Oh, sorry.
That's different.
Like, oh, that is different, isn't it?
Yes.
It's just got derailed.
Yeah, sure did.
We went from VHF to porn.
Well, you're the one out of the backyard playing with naked people.
No, I was not drinking vodka.
No, Sean was like, Jeff has porn stories.
Go right.
And Jeff's like, I pick my dad safe and watch porn with my neighborhood friends.
He's like, oh, that sparked a whole.
Sure did.
Genre of crap.
We probably I think we kind of abused the technology topic anyway.
It was good. It was good stuff.
Yeah, I'm glad it's over.
That's for sure.
You know, but all the technology.
The kids have now have no idea the torture that we had to go through.
Well, it makes you think when they have kids, what's going to be around?
Oh, God, nothing.
I mean, but here's the thing.
Even movies like everything is streamed now.
Everything.
Do you remember when Netflix first started?
I was CDs.
Yes. DVDs.
Yeah, that they mailed to your house.
Yeah.
And then you could swap them out as many times you want.
Yeah.
Ten bucks a month or whatever it was.
And you started off as Blockbuster.
Yeah.
Blockbuster.
No, they were competitors.
Blockbuster was.
Yeah.
That's what put them out of business.
It is.
Well, Blockbuster was.
Hold on.
So Blockbuster was just rental.
Netflix was the one mailing it to your house.
Correct.
And they were strictly.
Blockbuster picked up the.
They tried to, but they were too late.
They were trying to compete with Netflix because they'd get their asses handed to them.
Yeah, they were just too late.
Because nobody was going to the stores anymore.
Yeah, we were going.
And we.
I'd order Blockbusters and they were just like just continuous ordering movies.
Boom, boom, boom.
Yeah.
Pay X amount of dollars a month and order as many movies as you want.
Yeah.
And you drop them off at the Blockbuster and that's it.
Yeah, I was doing the same thing.
That's crazy.
That system that they had, it's just.
And then they had.
What a nightmare.
You remember Family Video?
It closed.
All across the street.
Yeah, it closed a long time ago.
I mean, that was.
I was amazed.
They stayed open as long as they did considering Blockbuster was already gone.
They just closed.
They're closing all their stores now.
Right.
I know ours closed what, four or five years ago.
Right.
But.
Thanks to my kids.
I'm not going to be in business with all the freaking penalties.
Yeah, but you could rent everything for a buck.
Yeah.
Well, when you.
Every rental was like a dollar.
That cost.
That's what they're hoping for.
Losers like you just keep on hold on to their.
Oh, yeah.
I'd walk in there and I'd run a movie.
They're like, oh, that's twenty five dollars.
I was like, damn it.
What?
Son of a bitch.
Oh, you rented whatever.
You rented Veggie Tales, volume eight.
Yeah.
And then you're like, oh, I've been there three months ago and never really.
You're like, what?
That will be one hundred and twenty dollars to replace that VHS tape.
Brutal.
Yeah, we played the crap out of Veggie Tales.
Well, it was a that was the thing to do was was go to the video store.
I mean, it was an event.
It was a family event.
All right, let's go.
Let's get the car going to Blockbuster.
And we're picking three movies.
And then the kids have to get, oh, my God, candy, the fucking everything, popcorn.
But what was cool?
I love to do that.
But what's cool about those video stores is that you could pick up old classic movies
and stuff.
I mean, and now and now if you go to Amazon Prime or you go to Netflix, you're at the
mercy on whether or not it's there.
Yeah.
Or you got to rent it.
Yeah, you got to pay for it.
Yeah.
I mean, yeah.
I mean, and it's like Amazon Amazon.
Amazon Prime doesn't have the greatest selection.
Right.
And then in the other movies are like six ninety nine, five ninety nine, four ninety
nine.
It's like a buck like it was.
It's an investment.
But you just got to look.
You can rent movies on Prime and stuff like that.
Yeah.
But they're not cheap.
They're three ninety nine.
Are they?
I mean, it's a one time use.
You could see actually you can watch it as many times you want within twenty four hours
once.
I was going to say, I want to watch movies six times.
My money's worth.
I don't want to watch this anymore.
But that's just did.
I mean, a lot of times people only watch the movie once.
Of course.
That's what most people do.
Right.
I mean, I've got to I just buy them.
I mean, because I just do.
I mean, I don't watch a whole lot of what I'm saying is that the ones I'm like on Netflix,
I watch all those I stream them, but I don't buy all the movies like just recently.
I've been buying like all the Lord of the Rings and The Hobbit.
I have never bought a movie on a streaming service.
Never either.
Not once.
Never will.
Why?
Why do it?
Because it's always you.
You own it.
You always have it.
Well, I have the CD downstairs.
I always have that.
Well, mine's more accessible.
DVD.
I don't know.
I guess.
I mean, I could watch it on any device.
I just never made that transition.
So what if one day you get rid of your Amazon account?
Like I'm done with Amazon.
You're a slave to Amazon forever.
Well, you know, choices.
Yeah.
You know, it's all about the quality of life.
And then they shut down Parler and take away free speech.
And you're still there watching your movie.
Or they're showing it broke back down every week.
They replace it.
I'll tell you, I have thought about this.
The only thing you can watch.
And I'll tell you, the one thing that I've got that most people don't.
Until you bend.
Until you're a Republican.
I have an incredible library of music that's digitized.
I've got eight terabytes of music.
I thought that's from your DJ company.
OK, but I own it.
Oh, OK.
Yeah.
You know, it's a perfect quality.
What do you do with it, though?
It just sits on a hard drive.
That's what I mean.
You never listen to it.
Well, my point is, is that you say I'm a slave to Amazon.
Well, I don't have to.
Well, I go and download that.
What are you talking about?
If you have bought one hundred and seventy seven movies from Amazon Prime or whatever, Amazon.
OK, you're talking about from the video perspective.
I'm talking about the music perspective.
So, I mean, if I if I didn't want to go to Amazon Music, I still have all the fucking music.
All I have to do is load it up to I can put my my hard drive on a network.
Yeah.
And I can access that network and stream from my house.
Yeah, no, I'm sure you should set up a cloud that we can all stream from.
That's not a bad idea.
Yeah. I mean, because I own a ton.
I mean, it's kind of funny and silly, but really that's where it's coming to.
But why would we? I mean, I have Amazon Prime.
I can stream whatever song.
Yeah. For like a nickel.
No, I mean, I mean, it's it's you can play whatever you want for the price that you pay per month.
I am getting kind of seven and seven ninety nine a month for Amazon Music.
Let me get sick of getting nickel and dined.
Yeah, that's the part I was just going to say.
It all adds up. It's it's you know, I only have I've got Prime.
Excuse me. Netflix and Prime, Amazon Music.
And I don't want to this like Hulu. I don't have Hulu, but I just I don't want to buy anymore.
You know, and I know some of my kids have other things.
Disney Plus and then I'll tell you what, after they fired Gina Carrera, did you cancel?
I'm on the cusp of canceling. I hope you do. I hope you do. Fuck Disney.
You know, there's a huge conflict right now between the the the Mandalorian team and the Star Wars team right now.
Yep. John Favreau. Yeah. What's going on in Kennedy? Yeah. What's going on?
I mean, it's the left versus the right, basically.
I mean, you've got Bill Burr that's got his television show or his his podcast.
He's making announcements or he's saying I can't even fucking say anything because I'm afraid I'm going to be cancer.
I read about that. You know, it's like he's absolutely right. It's bullshit.
I mean, the thing is, it'd be different if she was out there on the streets making these horrible things and saying these horrible.
But all she did was retweet something, which I didn't even know. I thought originally she had said something bad.
It wasn't even bad. She was simply making an analogy between.
But it's it's just not fair because, you know, it's like one total one side could do whatever they want.
Like we were talking about the other guy from Mandalorian was saying some pretty awful shit about Trump and and just some really ugly things and comparisons that were totally unethical.
And she turns around and does that and they fire her. It's just bullshit.
If they're going to fire her to fire her for something that they didn't want to start to continue the show, they just do it.
But that's not the case. They're going to replace her. Yeah, that's crazy.
You know, and then there's something else with the Oshaka Jedi.
You know, I think that maybe she had said some stuff, too. It's just who Oshaka the Jedi.
The is that her name? Shuka? Oh, the one with the long with the grown out of her.
Yeah. Soca. Soca. Soca.
Well, she said something to she get well, I mean, she's on the shit list, too.
And there's a you know, there's just look, man, it's just it's got out of hand.
It's got to stop. It's just like, come on.
When is it going to stop? I mean, you got to let people do their stuff.
Yeah. Well, you heard that the CPAC was in Hyatt.
So there was a big push to boycott Hyatt. Yeah.
And Hyatt came out with a great response. What did they say? They just said, you know, we don't we don't pick sides. We provide great service to, you know, right.
We try to save a safe place to stay. And that's that's our business.
I mean, how do you argue with that? Right. I mean, it was it was a great response. Right.
They didn't back down. They didn't apologize.
They didn't say that they would never host the CPAC thing again. You know what I mean? They didn't.
Well, did you see that the CPAC is giving them grief because of the stage design? Yeah, I heard I heard something about it.
They're given CPAC given the Hyatt. Yes, because they designed and erected the stage.
What's wrong with the stage? They modified it because some there were complaints about it having some symbolism.
Well, it's the same. It's a stretch. Oh, it looked like a schwa sticker.
No, it looked I don't know what the signal as the sign was, but it looked it's a symbol that you would see on the SS lapels.
Oh, come on. That that that's that that right there.
You see how it's where that right there where it's kind of the diamond with those two things off the top.
That's the same symbol that you find on the SS lapels.
So so do what's what's an SS lapel. It's a Nazi.
Well, that's what I'm saying. Well, I like I don't know.
Oh, you tell them like on the side of the tank color. Oh, that's just they're fucking reaching.
God, those are geometric shapes. Everything is reaching.
So it's but that's the Nazi Nazi lapel Nazi SS and CPAC.
And there's no symbol. There's no periods. Yeah, you just do.
Oh, come on. God, that's really.
Well, the show and swastikas and then the blitzkrieg symbols.
Put CPAC up there as well.
Yeah. Well, the thing is that they're just fucking reaching.
They're reaching for everything. And I don't get it.
You know, it's like it's a country divided is going to see CPAC.
They're just I believe that there are forces that we don't know about or do know about.
I don't know. They're they want us to fail.
They want us arguing with each other. They want us at each other's throat.
They want civil war. It's all about divisiveness.
So it's just, you know, it's just ugly.
You're not. What is it going to take?
It just needs to stop. You know, it is the only way that there it is.
I'll show it. Oh, come on.
The history of the seven SS Mountain Division Prince Yugen.
So it was an obscure lapel.
Yeah, it's very obscure. Yeah.
Prince Yugen. But that's but that's the CPAC that was arguing it.
That wasn't some lib.
That was the CPAC that was complaining.
I think I don't know. I could be wrong. I hope that's not the case.
I don't know. But, you know, it's that they could find just like Sean finds penises and Disney Disney pictures.
Well, he's looking hard for it, though. Yeah.
He's really reaching. Yeah.
Yeah. The cancel culture is reaching.
It's a it's a fervor right now. And I hope that we're at the end of it.
Yeah, but I don't know. I don't know if we are.
Well, what's interesting is, is even people on the left are being cancel cultured.
I mean, it's a frenzy. It's not just one people or one view or whatever.
It's everybody. And and as soon as that people start to realize that they're going to go, you know what?
No. Enough. Well, who does it?
Who who who are the instigators of this? Is that one specific group or is it just I mean, there's a group over here who gets offended because I think there's just a bunch of stupid ass people on Twitter, man.
Stupid ass people that post stuff. It's a matter of what can they get away with.
And they're they're people that don't care. They're either wealthy and are you suggesting that I don't think they're wealthy.
Are you suggesting that they're trolls? Like they don't really get offended. They don't really care.
They want to see what they can. Yeah, that's just ral shit up. Come on, guys.
Let's see what we can fuck with. It's like this. It's like some dude walking through Buc-E's without a mask on looking at people like, hey, fuck.
It's like it's like a bet. Let's see if we can get Hyatt to do this or let's see if we can get Subway to apologize for.
Yes. You know, that sandwich. Exactly what that is. That's fucking bullshit.
That's what I think it is. You know, let's see how far we can stretch this.
I hate it. Do you think Nancy Pelosi will ever be in the Playboy centerfold?
I don't think so. I keep looking. I keep looking. She's just not there.
She's got big boobs, but now I don't see that happening. I think she's passed past her prime on that kind of stuff.
Well, you never know. I mean, because it's like she I agree with you a thousand percent.
She's past her prime. Yeah, she's a hundred. There are sometimes where under three. She's a hundred and three. OK.
We'll do a photo shoot with Playboy and it'll remain quiet and no one will know about it.
It's in the archives until they get elected like. Go on.
Well, I don't know if she posed, but I'm just kind of, you know, I mean, she is.
She was pretty who? Oh, my God, please. We can't even have this conversation.
Really? I look at her and I see the devil. I don't see anything pretty about her.
No. Yeah. She's she is honestly an evil person and she claims to be a devout Catholic.
My ass. Evil person. Yeah.
Well, I think she was attracted when she was younger. I don't.
Anyway, moving on. No, you're just not doing it.
What does she look like? She looks like somebody Nancy Pelosi.
Yeah. You know what? Forget about it. I'm done.
All I was correlating was that it be or trying to connect the dots.
And you know how Playboy has done that in the past where they do these photo shoots with these people.
And then all of a sudden they'll spring it out five, ten years later. Look at this one. Madonna.
Yeah. Yeah. So like that. That stops forever.
Yeah. Just like the Internet. You post something out there. It's out there forever.
Is that what happened with Madonna? Is that the Playboy had done a photo shoot with her and she pumped the brakes on it?
And then all of a sudden it just came out later? I don't think she I don't think she pumped the brakes on it.
I think she was just needed the money like when she was starting out.
I mean, she hadn't made it big. These were early, early pictures.
But they didn't publish them until later because they were being popular.
They were nothing. Star then. She's a big star when they posted it. And they were nothing special.
No, they were. I remember even like I was I loved Madonna.
She he went out and bought 10 copies. I bought 10. I don't remember.
But I am 15. I wasn't impressed.
Even loving Madonna and being really excited to see the picture of Harry armpits. Yeah.
But yep, I wasn't I wasn't into that either.
Well, I mean, like always during the picture she did.
Yeah. I mean, she'd euro. Right. Is she?
I mean, she was euro and those to be euro in those pictures.
Yeah. Yeah. She was quite, quite hairy. Yeah.
I always thought she was kind of a shitty person.
I don't know where, why. I always felt I got that feeling she was a shitty person.
And then after she was with Sean Penn, you know, I thought he was a shitty person.
And he is. Oh, he is. But I mean, Sean Penn going to Iraq,
I guess it was sort of I was saying, oh, I don't speak for everyone.
I was. I'm Sean Penn. I was El Chapo as well.
He went down there and interviewed him.
I don't know. That guy's a weirdo, man. Whatever.
But I was I was really I was really into Madonna.
I was sexually. I thought she was hot. Yeah.
We're talking what? How about all those talking the 80s and early 90s?
This is a junior high. Like all the girls would wear that type of outfits with the nets, the big hoops, the brassiere, the brassiere.
And I thought she was the shit. And when I was a freshman in high school.
Yeah, I can't even tell you. It's nothing.
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I am out of town and I'm getting surgery. That's right.
So the next podcast we have, you're going to be in a sling. Yeah, you may not hear much from me.
I just may just drool and bone.
All right. Bone. Wow. That'd be a whole different kind of podcast.
I don't know how much we'll see how it goes.
I'm a bitch every time I hit my arm on the table or something like that. God.
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