I say we're ready, but we actually discussed zero topics in our green room today.
We were rushed.
Yes, we were.
We rushed for good reason though.
But this is where we start to roll with talent.
Where we just, you know.
This is going to be a 100% wing it.
That's all right.
I want to welcome back our producer just freshly from Colorado.
We decided to take a quick excursion to explore the 420 programs they have up there.
Nice.
I'm not sure exactly what that means.
That's my son's birthday by the way.
Oh, sure.
April 20th.
No, no, no, really it's my birthday.
Sure it is.
Well, we didn't know anything about, I don't know how long has 420 been around as pot day?
No, it's 420, Mr. Producer, you're probably going to look that up here, but 420 has something
to do with, I think it has something to do with the case law number.
No, I don't know.
From California.
I think that's what it is.
I don't know.
I'm not really sure.
All right, well it is, what was it today?
Why California?
Who gives a shit about them?
We don't.
I don't.
Everything causes cancer.
When you step into that state, everything causes you cancer.
Apparently.
Yeah.
It's fine everywhere else though.
That's so retarded.
You'll look at anything.
Anything you buy, you can get spray paint, little baby powders, on the very bed.
Warning, causes cancer in California.
Prop 65 or whatever the hell they call it.
Before we bust a nut all over politics in California, April 24th, welcome back Mr. Producer,
thank you for coming tonight.
Dudes like us, I'm Sean.
I'm Paul.
And I'm Jeff.
We have tons and tons of winged shit that we're going to be throwing at you.
And we don't even know what it is yet.
We got plenty of stuff.
Stuff that we haven't talked about because we were gone for almost a month.
Oh, that's true.
Yeah, we got through the Colorado trip last time.
It wasn't even really complete.
We didn't talk about my skeet scat little venture out in the woods.
Oh, no.
You shit in the field and you took a picture of it.
No.
Like I'm going to show little pebbles.
You said, look, there's a bear.
He didn't tell me about it.
So I don't know.
We did do some rock climbing though.
It was a little too cold to be pulling my pants down out there.
It was it was like 30 degrees in the morning.
It was 10.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
It was 10 or 12.
But it got up to almost 35, 40, which which seemed warm.
Right.
Yeah.
When we were rock climbing, we didn't have any issues at all in being cold.
No.
In fact, I didn't wear my parka either.
I was up there climbing.
I was fine.
Yeah, that was fun.
That's because we had the we had our large vessel of bourbon.
Yes, we did.
What does 420 mean?
420 refers to the April 20th or April 20th date has come to be known as the official
stoner holiday on which marijuana smokers celebrate their love of bud.
The number 420 itself has come to be associated with marijuana and smoking is often a colloquial
term for the flower in act of consuming it.
Smokers 420 not only as a day to kick back and celebrate their love of the stuff, but
also to push for a broader legalization, decriminalization of marijuana.
But our scroll, where's the the where does it actually come from, though?
Right there, I think.
420 is the code police use to describe marijuana smoking.
420 is also the number of active chemicals in weed that gets you high.
I don't know.
Look, I'm not saying that those aren't true.
These are all guesses.
But these are popular rumors.
April 20th was Bob Barley's birthday.
It wasn't.
It's a I think it has something to do with this.
Scroll down because in reality, it's much simpler and perhaps less exciting.
Let's see what it is.
All right.
To a group of teenagers hanging out after school in the early 70s, five students at
this San Rafael High School in Marin County, California, would meet outside of the school
after extracurricular activities and ended for the day.
Let's see here.
They called them the Waldos and the official meeting time was 420 p.m.
I call bullshit.
How would they know that?
They started using 420 as the code for smoking.
I think that's just some people trying to take credit for it.
How would they know this?
Well, it went on to explain.
It went on to explain.
I don't know if we want to get into all that.
To say it, Rafael, one of the members, Dave Reddick's later got work as a roadie for the
Grateful Dead.
Here we go.
And the band helped to popularize the term.
He told Time specifically he told Time specifically the man do my eyes are blurry.
I can't read that.
There we go.
He was a roadie for the deadheads.
Specifically, a flyer distributed by the group of the Oakland Deadheads in December 1990,
inviting people to smoke weed on April 20th at 420 did the trick.
OK, well, there we go.
So it is true.
All right.
So it's just a date picked out of someone's ass.
Well, but he was a roadie for the deadheads.
So the California Senate bill, 420, is basically where it says disallows marijuana smoking
in no smoking zones within a thousand feet, 300 meters of a school.
Did they use that number because of that?
I bet you they did.
420.
What came first?
Well, this was in the 70s.
That was in the 70s.
Well, crazy.
I've always heard it to be this.
That may have been coincidence or maybe the reason, but they both think so.
I don't know.
Whatever.
And I don't care.
The only reason I care is it's Stephen's birthday.
And I think he used to get shit for it when he was at school.
What are you, a stoner?
Your birthday is on 420.
They also said even in elementary school, I don't even know if this is right, that's
Hitler's birthday.
Oh, great.
Oh, boy.
I don't know if it is or not, but he's heard that as well.
Yeah, we don't need to look that up.
He's not worth it.
Wow.
Speaking of worth it, how was it last Saturday at the 1845 distillery?
Shout out to the Lowry Crossings 1845 distillery.
Yeah, this was the single barrel 109 celebration.
106.
Yeah, we whoever bought a bottle of 109, 106.
106.
Oh, sorry, 106.
Whoever bought a bottle of it.
Got invited to, you know, pick up their bottle and the party and samples of it.
And and Bob got to kind of give a speech about how they got started and and where they're
at over the last year.
What's what's happened?
Yeah, it's ramped up a thousand percent.
It's amazing.
They sell their stuff.
They sell the stuff that total wine now.
And specs and Liquor King specs as well.
I Liquor King.
Oh, and their master distiller gave a little give a little speech as well.
He gave a little toast.
Miguel.
Yeah, he's very quiet and introverted, is he?
I don't I don't think we've met him enough to really know.
And he didn't seem like it at all.
No, yeah, he talked to us for quite a while.
Yeah.
And they signed the bottles and it was it was really cool.
It was fun.
Yeah, that was kind of cool to go to total wine last Friday and see that they were hosting
a training class and they were 1845.
It was yeah, it was a special tasting for the employees of total.
And the dudes like us podcast us barge in the middle of the training program.
We try to crash it.
We own the place.
We try to crash it like, hey, do we have some?
What was cool is like a stand.
Stan started clapping when we walked in.
Did he really?
Oh, I didn't even catch that.
Yeah.
Oh, that's funny.
And it's funny.
Yeah, those are the guys I was telling you about.
Yeah.
And so I mean, I was like, why are you waiting for Total Wine to call security or something?
And one of the guys said, do you know these guys?
And Bob goes, oh, yeah, we love these guys.
We love these guys.
Aka we tolerate the shit out of them.
Right.
We don't harass.
We don't go up there every single weekend and stuff like that.
No, no.
And we try to stay out of their way.
Yeah.
Well, it's fun, though.
It's exciting.
And you know, because it's groundbreaking kind of stuff.
And to be there when this is happening, it's not ours to enjoy.
I'm just happy.
It's just fun.
It's fun to watch.
Yeah, really fun.
I love an American dream and, you know, people out there that are into beer brewing or any
kind of craft that they do themselves.
That's huge.
You know, to see it, take that next step.
I'm so proud and happy for them.
It's like we want this podcast to take the next step.
There we go.
Imagine imagine 15, 20 years from now looking back and they're like everywhere.
You know, they're like a household name.
Like us?
No.
Well, that too.
Oh, yeah.
Like 1845 is a household.
But our magnets are going to be worth thousands of dollars.
It'd be millions.
Yeah.
We'll have to number all of them.
We which magnet do you have?
Oh, I have four thousand two hundred and twenty one.
What do you know?
That's nice.
I've got one of the first 15 ever made.
Yeah, we got the bootleg.
These were the first edition where we didn't have the laser engaged incorrectly.
Yeah, they're all blurry and super burnt in.
It's still cool.
So dudes like us Ford or dudes like us dash podcast on Instagram dudes like us dash wood
craft.
If you guys is it crafting or would craft?
I forget exactly.
I don't remember.
Whatever you know, you just put wood in there.
It'll come in.
Yeah.
Oh, careful.
I don't put wood in there.
Last time you did that.
Well, I will have to say that we ran into the boozy baker while we were out there.
That's right.
Boozy Baker.
That's somebody they partner with to make cookies that have bourbon in them.
I have to say they were outstanding.
They were good.
They were really, really good.
And what's really interesting.
Tell that story.
Like when we first got there, June was it June?
No, somebody somebody brought him over to us.
Oh, yeah.
He listens to the podcast and he wanted to meet us and talk to us and kind of explain
what he did and whatnot.
And I think we're going to need to have him on.
Oh, absolutely.
Yeah.
And he's I don't know how he does it, but they are.
You should have one in your bag.
A cookie?
I think so.
No, I ate it.
Oh, look, I've already had them before.
Oh, OK.
He's a he's a vendor up at Filtered Coffee Shop in downtown McKinney.
Gotcha.
So he was really excited to meet us.
That was really kind of neat.
And it's kind of cool, too, to to know that you've got a fan out there because that makes
three.
You know, well, two, we lost one.
Oh, yeah.
Remember what you said last podcast?
I never was it about white people?
Yeah, it was about white people.
Yeah.
You can insult them constantly.
God bless it.
Yeah.
Anyway, but insulting white people.
I'm sorry.
Go on.
I was going to say, no, really nice guy.
And I was we have his car.
We need to make sure that we schedule to.
So yeah, he would have a very interesting story, I think.
So he the very next day he had put on the Instagram and Facebook that he met the dudes
like us from the dudes like us podcast.
Did you really?
Yes.
Oh, how cool is that?
He tagged us.
He had a call out.
It was cool.
And you know, we reiterated it through the filtered coffee shop.
And of course, the dudes like us dash would craft of dudes like us podcast.
We did you post those pictures?
They were already up there.
No, on our Instagram.
No, not yet.
OK.
No.
For some reason, I'm having trouble logging into our accounts.
We got to figure that out.
So I'll send you over the we got figured that out.
Just when you're in Vegas, do what you're doing when you're on the phone and tomorrow
in Friday.
Like you want to call me on Friday if you have time.
You're sitting there doing whatever.
I don't know.
Play wordle.
Could be wordle.
Yeah.
What the hell is wordle?
Wordle?
You've never heard of wordle?
No.
Is it called wordle?
I have no idea.
Oh, it's the app where you're given like five letters and it's like in a crossword
puzzle format.
Oh, it's a web based word game created to get six chances to guess a word?
No, this is no.
So it's another wordle.
It's not wordle, I guess.
The one I play is there's this wheel of letters and you have to make as many words as you
can with those letters.
And then it's like there's a crossword puzzle that tells you kind of what the next one is.
I've seen that.
I've played that before.
It's addictive, man.
I try not to download too many games on my phone.
Because they are addicting.
They are.
They are addicting.
And plus, I can't stand it when you're playing these games and all of a sudden it's like
you've got to watch this two minute commercial.
Oh, yeah.
That drives me nuts.
As soon as one of that happens, I delete it immediately.
Yeah, they all have it.
They all have it.
They do.
Unless you pay like five or ten bucks to get the ad free version.
Well, someone wants like five bucks a month or something ridiculous like that.
So I got to share with you, there's a story that I heard about the you know, we've got
the economics of the United States has been shifting for a long time.
Even when Trump was president, things were up.
But still, the dynamic of Amazon and online shipping is suffocating some of these mama
pop businesses and suffocating malls.
That's kind of where I'm going to with this thing.
Malls are like one of the number one areas, community places that are turning into ghost
towns where that's been happening for quite a while.
It has been happening for decades.
The brick and mortar slowly dying.
You don't think are you sure about that?
Or is it just an Amazon thing?
No, it's not just may have sped things up, but the malls have been dying for a long time.
Interesting.
Even when I was up in Cincinnati 40 years ago, there are malls that were struggling
and shutting down.
I bet that's probably a product maybe of these multi conglomerate stores like Walmart, Target
and Kmart and whatever else.
It could be, you know, just you know, it's an all in one shop.
You know, I mean, think about.
I mean, you guys grew up going to the mall, didn't you?
Oh, yeah.
I mean, the mall was like when I grew up, it was it was like the cool thing to do.
Even if you don't shop and buy anything, I mean, you go down there and you're like a
teenage preteen preteen and teen hangout.
You're checking out.
I remember I skipped school one time and we went to JCPenney's in the mall and we sat
there and hung out in the elevator.
Oh, what were you doing?
Farting.
We just hanging out in the elevator because nobody was in there.
Nobody.
No one would go to the elevator.
I mean, how many times nobody went to the elevator when someone did.
Oh my God.
We just scrambled to stand up on our feet.
All right.
We just walk out the elevator.
But you pull your pants up and oh, what kind of skipping?
Oh, OK, my bad.
I didn't know what you guys are skipping.
So I was a teenager.
Oh, was it?
Was it?
Was it no glass on it?
Could you see those when the malls?
No, no, not one of the the hallways.
This is the one that's inside the JCPenney's.
These are the ones that like nobody even knows about.
Oh, yeah, they're not even they're public, but that's kind of like inside the thing.
But you know, were you were you the kind of teenager that like with your friends, you
would like try to figure out if you could get to the roofs of this place and that place
and like, I was to do crazy shit like that.
I don't think so.
No, no, no, no.
Thank God.
I did not do that at all.
No, we did not.
You did that.
Well, not at a mall.
We did it with our elementary school.
Really?
You got on it on the roof.
Yeah, we figured at school.
No, after dark, we run up because elementary school is real close to my house.
Juvenile delinquencies, dude, like us.
And we figured out a way that you put like the black paint on your face and we were put
like we wear dark clothes on.
Yeah.
Were you wearing like in a hoodie or a Nintendo's Contra?
Yeah.
Black paint, you know, a little walkie talkie on and everything.
Walkie talkies and stuff.
Yeah.
No, we didn't have any of that shit, but they had a bullhorn.
We just wear dark pants.
Yeah.
I'm up here.
It wasn't even electric.
It was like this folded up cardboard they were using.
Yeah.
I remember one time we get up here.
We would do anything.
We'd get up there and we'd just walk around.
Right.
And we'd go, hey, we're on top of school.
Because you could.
Yeah.
And we were hopping down once and the janitor comes out.
It was probably eight o'clock.
It was dark out.
Was she hot?
There was some old dude.
Oh.
And he's smoking a doobie.
And he yelled at us.
And of course he was old and running.
And he's like, all right, all right, all right.
There's a big field that was right next to it.
There's a really big field that was right next to it that we could play soccer on.
It was huge.
And there were baseball fields and we weren't running and he came running out a little bit.
And we just.
He started to chase you guys.
Oh, yeah.
We just dove in the middle of the field and laid flat.
In the pitch black dark.
In the pitch black.
So we were laying flat and he walked up and he was yelling.
He was, I don't know what he was saying.
Shit.
That was 40 years ago.
And, you know, he was yelling at us.
And of course we were all laying there flat freaking out.
You have a tendency of you can share a lot of these stories in Cincinnati where you're
doing these extra curricular.
How are you not in juvenile detention like most of your childhood?
I didn't do a bunch of stupid things.
You only have to do one.
Yeah.
I don't know what if you would have gotten in.
I'm sure the police would have wagged your finger and called your parents if they actually
caught you up there.
Right.
But, you know, I didn't do anything destructive or anything like that.
Nowadays, they have cameras everywhere.
Oh, yeah.
You could.
Back then they had nothing.
Yeah.
I know that's little Johnny.
Yeah.
They already have a record of him.
Yeah, exactly.
I can tell by that birthmark on his leg or something.
Yeah.
New kid.
So, yeah, we did that and we didn't do much.
I mean, we climbed.
We had a creek behind the house.
I think I've told you this where the sewer from the street, the rainwater, would empty
into it.
We climbed into the pipe and threw up into the sewer.
How far did you get?
I think about 300 feet.
Damn.
Did you get nervous?
When you're, it's pitch black in there at some point, right?
Yeah.
And you got water coming out.
You didn't have flashlights or anything?
Yeah, we had a flashlight.
What was I going to say?
We had a flashlight.
That lighter like.
Yeah.
It's like the movie Alien.
They had this.
He took his underwear off, wrapped it around, put some oil on there.
There's some kind of moss or something, algae grown.
It looked like a big red tongue and it was hairy kind of a thing.
It must have been algae or something.
But you kind of had to work around that and it ran the whole length of it.
And like I said, you got up there and you're you're on your hands and knees crawling through
this thing and you have someone in front of you, someone in back of you.
So you really can't see.
And you finally come into a room and you're underneath the street and you stand up and
you could see the manhole, you know, 50 feet up and sex.
Was there a ladder up to the manhole?
No, it was like in the middle of the room.
Why sexist?
Oh, manhole, manhole.
And then they had really small things.
They said we looked up at the womanhole and we really liked it.
Oh, yeah.
That would be totally different.
Yeah, it was like, oh, we could barely reach it.
We tried.
We jumped and we tried to reach it.
And they just had smaller pipes going off to the sides that you couldn't climb in.
So we just hang out in there for a few minutes.
Then we then we'd leave.
Right.
Well, let's let's walk us through like the mall thing.
So when we're at the mall, what was one of your I mean, obviously, Spencer's is like
a shining Spencer's Spencer's novelty items.
Now, Spencer's I think is closing down their shops.
And I think the government has given them like a twenty five million dollar bailout
or something like that.
For what?
Now?
Right now?
Yes.
Current news?
Yeah.
Hey, Mr. Producer, can you type in Spencer's and twenty five million dollars?
Are they deemed essential?
I don't know.
Maybe.
Maybe I'm sure they were deemed essential.
Maybe not.
But maybe the fact that they're kind of a staple in most malls, maybe I've never even
heard of it.
Spencer's Spencer's gifts.
No.
Come on.
OK.
Well, first off, I didn't grow up in the United States, guys.
I saw this.
I saw the malls on summertime and it wasn't very much.
You're a grown ass man.
You've never seen Spencer's at a mall.
I never go to the mall.
Boy, it was a it was a preteen and teenage boys dream.
I have never.
I've never.
I've never like been over that Spencer's now.
Boy, they had posters of just scantily clad women that you could sit there.
Oh, yeah.
All right.
Mr. Producer, instead of just give me the twenty five million.
That's that's it right there.
Well, hold on.
Let the back.
I mean, you can continue to look for that.
But the point of bringing up the mall is I kind of wanted to reminisce and talk about
all the things that were at the mall like your number one things that you would down
there.
I mean, the KB Toy Story, which I used to work there.
A toy story was I mean, a toy story was cool.
That was always cool.
You know, we used to hit the bookstore to look at the magazines until they yelled at
you.
Walden Books or Walden Books.
Then they always had Radio Shack.
Oh, yeah.
We got a radio shack.
Radio Shack.
Is that gone?
That's gone.
Yeah, they shut down completely.
Yeah, completely gone.
Where do you buy that shit that you get?
I mean, it was very online.
It was very unique stuff.
They sold little transistors and resistors and boxes and I mean, little tiny trays of
all this weird shit.
And people that like, you know, built their own radios and stuff, you know, I don't know.
Yeah, I don't recall exactly where I think I heard it on the five or something they were
talking about the Spencer shut down how they had a government handout that kind of helped
them out.
And it was you know, I'm not necessarily against it.
I mean, is it a necessity?
No.
But I mean, is it a necessity for the malls to be able to survive?
Perhaps.
When I shut my business down, the government didn't help me out.
Yeah.
Well, you weren't in a mall.
Maybe a strip mall.
But I'm talking about like the government doesn't care.
No, they don't.
Well, evidently they do because they gave Spencer's money is kind of what I'm driving
at.
It's kind of like, you know, in addition to that, it's just more over like what did you
used to do when you were there?
I mean, it was Orange Julius.
He used to always go down to the place where you order the food.
He never hung down out down there.
Yeah, we'd hang out in the food court, get some sparrow pizza.
Orange Julius and get a little pretzel or corn dog.
What is the corn dog place?
I don't know.
I never hit the corn dog.
No, it wasn't Fletcher's.
I remember kind of hanging out outside of the Victoria's Secret.
You know, you just kind of walk by slowly kind of back and forth.
You know, just kind of glancing over there at the mannequin, you know, you walk in there
and be like, can I try the thought for you?
Well, yes, you can.
Gosh, I'm trying to think of the other stores we used to go to.
There used to be was it Suncoast movies when videos DVDs used to be.
We should go in there.
What about the record stores?
There was a specific type of record store that was always in them.
Well, yeah, what was the name of that?
Oh, damn.
I don't say goodie, but that's not right.
Yeah, there was.
You're right.
It was always there.
Yeah, we used to go in there.
We used to hit the movie store to look at all the VHS and go, man, I want to see that
movie.
It wasn't Discus.
I'm not going to get it, but it was.
Yeah, there was a Gradia or Arcadia or Music Land.
Was it Music Land?
I don't know.
Music Land may have been one of them.
That's a good question, man.
But I think you're right.
I mean, we always used to go in there.
We look at the records.
Oh, yeah.
There was records back in the day.
Oh, yeah.
And then it became CDs, right?
Well, cassettes.
Do you remember the packaging of the cassettes?
Oh, they were long.
Big, long.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
That's the way the CDs started.
They were called, were they Letterboxx?
Where the disc took up like 25% of the packaging.
Right, right, right.
It was really long.
It was like the Tower Records, the Camelot Music, Sam Goody.
That's all I can really think.
But there's another one.
Sam Goody.
That was it.
But there was another one.
Yeah, Sam Goody.
I think that's it.
Sam Goody was it.
That's exactly what it was.
Yeah, so you were right.
I needed the Sam part to resonate there.
Yeah, that's it.
And you had a lot of local smaller ones as well that you'd run into every now and then.
Yeah, well, I'm going to I miss I mean, I don't care about the mall anymore.
Frankly, we're still there.
Yeah, yeah.
It's still active.
You can go to Stonebriar.
Yeah, if we want to go to the mall every Friday, we can walk around and reminisce.
That's kind of what they're alluding to what's going to happen to these ghost town malls
is that they're going to use them as special events areas and for exercise, you know, because
there's a lot of old folks.
There's a lot of folks that will run laps, you know, where they usually walk them all.
Well, you know, they're going to start like setting up cars for display and selling cars
for malls because it's inside.
You know, I don't think people will go to it because there's two big balls here locally
Valley View, which is gone.
It's been gone for a decade.
They put condos in there.
And Collin Creek.
Have you driven by that?
That's gone.
Is it really?
So they've gone.
It's gone.
And that was that was our go to mall when we first moved to play.
Yeah.
Collin Creek is gone and it's they're putting in a multi use kind of like a legacy west
type of place there.
Yeah.
OK.
Well, that's all the rage right now.
So they're building that the whole what it's like the bars and shops underneath and then
and then and it's all walkable.
All the restaurants and shit and then and then all the apartments are above the apartments
and typically, you know, maybe some offices as well.
Right.
So, yeah, Collin Creek's gone.
Valley View's gone.
The one I grew up going to in Cincinnati was called Tri County Mall.
We had two of them.
Actually, we had more than two.
But the main one I would go to was Tri County Mall and Kenwood Town Center.
So do you think it was a massive loss, investment loss when these closed down?
I mean, did they close down before they made their money after typically malls being open?
Well, surely not.
Right.
Typically, I say, yeah, Tri County Mall.
Yeah, there it is.
I mean, they would have these huge malls set up.
And I mean, how many years would it have to work?
We're doing its thing.
We're highways meet large highways meet typically except for the Denver Airport.
I mean, that's really the only stupid kind of huge place.
Why do people shop there?
But I'm just saying it is ridiculous.
Hey, Mr. Producer, there's actually a guy on YouTube who travels the states walking
all these closed malls.
Is that the same guy that walked the closed?
That's retarded.
Why would he do that?
Bowling alley?
And he videos it.
Remember the bowling alley one you showed somebody, you know, not broke in, but they
went into an old bowling alley that was in the town.
Oh, in Cincinnati where you used to go?
Oh yeah, Ringo Lanes.
Yeah, exactly.
Is this the same guy?
No, it's a different guy exploring.
It's more of the Cincinnati malls abandoned yet still open.
But yeah, there's I don't know if this is the same guy, but he'll walk through it if
it's if he could still get in and and shit like that.
Hold on.
There's a ton of cars there.
What does that mean?
It's still open.
I mean, it's possible that one store still open.
Yeah, there could be.
And plus, you know, they've got infrastructure of people that that work there clean it, perhaps
utility.
I mean, if you're going to have if you're going to own a building like that, you have
to maintain it or it's going to die.
Right.
Yeah, Cincinnati Mall.
They may shut off the.
Oh, so they shut off the inside of it.
I got you.
They shut off the inside of it, but you can still access the main stores from the outside.
Dude, that's so depressing, though.
Yeah.
You know, this reminds me of though, do you remember when the Astrodome was shut down
during the Hurricane Katrina?
Before they were getting raped?
No, that was that would have been the Superdome in New Orleans.
Oh, this is Houston.
Yeah.
So they shut it down because they built Reliant Stadium right right next door.
And there's somebody that went in there.
I don't.
Hopefully they didn't break in.
But there's somebody that went in there and they started looking around.
And it literally was like this.
I mean, look the same like when they shut the doors.
There was Astro stuff everywhere.
There was oiler stuff.
I mean, there was just I mean, look at this.
I mean, this ball looks it looks fine.
It looks fine.
There's no people on it.
How creepy, man.
How they get in there, you think they break a window?
It looks like they're here comes security.
Time to go.
Seriously?
Oh, I don't know.
That's what I look like.
But there's the jump house.
I mean, yeah, it's just I mean, the store facades are still on.
Yeah.
What a colossal waste of space.
There's something they got to be able to do in here.
What?
I don't know.
I'm thinking at some point they may be able to to revamp it, rehabilitate it somehow.
I don't know how.
Or do you just hold on to it, hoping mall scene comes back in 10 years?
You know what?
You remember we were talking about that crazy ass big wall they're building in Saudi Arabia
or something like that, the Neom or something like that.
Exactly.
No one self contained.
What if they they could do that?
They could open up bars and restaurants inside this thing and then they could have like there
would be apartments on the outside and the inside would be an all enclosed.
How cool would that be?
Think about it.
Basically, it's kind of like what that what they're doing in Saudi Arabia, right?
Let's buy it and turn it into that.
Yeah, let's do it.
That would be actually pretty cool.
Studio apartments and so you have.
So basically it's like here by us, we have legacy east and west.
It'd be like that except to be inside is all the inside.
Yeah.
And then you have a place where, like I said, you have restaurants and bars that kind of
serve the inside and outside, I guess.
But you would have places where bands can play and and then, you know, dude, I think
that would work.
I mean, considering it's just sitting there doing nothing.
Why wouldn't you try that?
And you probably get it for dirt cheap if you're a developer.
You know, I agree with the spirit of it.
But the problem I have is people are losers and they take advantage of things and they
won't stay in their lane and they will eventually commandeer other places in there.
You know, I just don't trust them.
They'll go.
They'll turn into turn into hum assholes and just, you know.
Now I'm just saying it would be a fully developed environment where there's apartments and you
talk about the living communities.
Yes.
Interesting.
So you would take like the Sears, the two floor Sears and divide that up into apartments
and apartments and then you'd have.
So you'd have these block of apartments here, block here.
Yeah, I don't know.
Yeah, I'm on the fence on that theme.
You can have like, you know, like a French theme.
Absolutely.
No, I don't think that's a good.
I don't think it has the I don't think it has the electrical or the plumbing infrastructure.
It would take a lot of retrofitting to do it.
Absolutely it would.
Absolutely.
But then again, they're building all that shit now.
Like all this stuff you're talking about.
They raised the whole thing and then they built a, you know, it would be an interesting
concept.
Yeah.
I don't know, man.
I kind of want the malls to come back.
So that's the reason why I kind of disagree.
But you know, you can just go into a virtual mall.
That seems to be what's going on right now.
I just pop on those VR glasses.
Mr. Producer has a lot of experience with the VR programs.
I mean, that's so creepy.
And they're selling real estate inside those environments.
That's ridiculous.
It is totally ridiculous.
I understood that like Snoop Dogg was a Snoop Dogg or one of one of these.
There are people spending millions of dollars.
Okay, but didn't it like it crashed?
It crashed.
Yeah.
Like it never took off.
Nobody was like, oh, but it'll come back.
You think so?
Oh, fuck, man.
I thought I thought Bitcoin was down and out, but it's coming back.
I should have bought Bitcoin when it was down.
Fuck Bitcoin.
Why didn't I?
Bitcoin is stupid.
People are stupid to buy Bitcoin.
Oh, well, that's why I don't buy it then.
No, I'm just I mean, look, it's just my opinion.
It's just my opinion.
You're buying nothing.
It is nothing.
You're buying nothing.
It's a novelty and that's all it is.
And yes, it to me, you know what to me, it's like the pyramid scheme.
It's like you buy it, you buy it, you buy it, you get all your friends to buy it.
And then when they all buy it, you sell.
But hold on.
Isn't that the same thing as stocks?
No.
I mean, what do you there's nothing there's nothing backing up Bitcoin.
Yeah, there's there's no goal depository.
There's nothing.
OK, so that just makes it more volatile, right?
It makes it more volatile.
It makes it a riskier, a riskier or it could go away.
It could go away tomorrow.
Yes, it could go down to zero.
Yeah.
But but you see where I'm going with this.
It's like when we buy when we buy stocks, I mean, it can go up and down and up and down
and up and down.
We have the company behind that company earning.
I get it.
But that's what nothing behind.
But my point is, that's people's mentality.
They're basically buying their idiots, but they're buying these fake coins.
Well, that could be and right in theory and whatever else.
They're not buying anything.
I know it doesn't exist.
It's fake.
So I mean, OK, let's dive into this.
So what they could be buying is Dogecoin is at 15 cents.
I don't even want to tell you how much I put into that.
I did put I put money into that.
You're buying like that was a scam.
I think Elon Musk should be sued for that.
Why?
He did that on purpose to weed out the stupid people.
Well, to show people that it is what it is.
That's exactly what it is.
It was a total idiotic deal.
Well, so was Bitcoin.
Fifty two week high was $60,000 a coin right now.
Yeah, but it is.
It's 66.
But yeah, and there are people that are still you see where the Elon Musk spike.
When he went on SNL.
Look at that.
Yeah, that's when we are when he won SNL.
My son and I, I gave him I gave him some money to buy Dogecoin because we wanted to get in
on the next big one.
Dogecoin is that's not all that's a big one.
Look at that.
Not even a penny.
No, it's not even close to a penny.
Unbelievable.
And it's I guess it's at 64 now.
It crashed when he was on SNL.
And the joke was it's a scam.
It is a scam.
Right.
It's absolutely a scam.
As soon as he said that, it plummeted.
And you know what?
There's a lot to be said about Elon Musk.
I have a lot of respect for him.
I really do.
I mean, there's a lot of people that are like, oh, he's the devil.
He's this.
He's that.
You know what?
Oh, no, he's a stud, man.
A total stud.
What a D.W.A.C.
Is he perfect?
No, D.W.A.C. has stalled.
It's fallen.
I mean, it was up like 10 percent today.
Was it 49 bucks?
I know it's better than 10.
That's true.
Yeah.
And I know also with Trump's in court right now and that shit is fluctuates every time
he gets it out and Trump being a court is stupid.
This whole thing is stupid.
Yeah.
I'll tell you what.
I bought more.
You bought more D.W.A.C.?
I did.
Good for you.
I know.
We'll see.
We'll see what happens.
Did you buy D.J.T. or did you buy D.W.A.C.?
D.W.A.C. has turned into D.J.T.
You can't buy D.W.A.C. now.
But it's still listed.
Is it?
Because I own stock in D.W.A.C. and it was converted to D.J.T.
Because D.W.A.C.
Because I don't even think you can buy that now.
Oh, maybe you're right.
Okay, you're right.
So yeah, D.W.A.C. is at $49.95.
So they froze it in time.
And D.J.T. is at $35.
Right.
So it's down.
And you, but you, like I said, you cannot buy D.W.A.C. as far as I know.
Right.
You're correct.
Yeah.
That's what I was going to say.
Yeah.
It all transferred over.
It did.
Yeah, $35.67.
Yeah.
So I put another like $180,000 in D.W.A.C.
Oh, wow.
Yeah.
I mean, you know, I have a lot of, you know, just cash laying around.
So yeah.
And I was talking to your son, the producer, and he was like, buy D.W.A.C.
So I did.
So and then it's like he's a isn't he a stock market?
He probably could be.
And it spiked way up there.
And then it just fell back.
I know.
I mean, there's a lot of stocks that do that.
But man, this stuff is really spicy.
Have you guys tasted the bourbon yet?
Oh, oh.
Well, look, I don't have the bottle for me, but it's a chat.
What do you go?
And I don't recall.
It's an apartment, Mr. Pruzer.
It's a silver.
What's it say on there?
Let me get that microphone and say something.
Let me see the bottle.
That's a negative.
Do you have laryngitis or something?
No.
All right.
What does the bottle say, Mr. Hefe?
It is a negative.
It's a negative.
It is a hand selected single barrel.
OK.
And the proof?
Is it a bourbon?
118.6 straight bourbon whiskey.
Oh, what does that mean, guys?
When it's straight.
It's not gay.
It means it's aged at least two years in Kentucky.
That's correct.
Well, no.
Anywhere.
Yes.
Not just Kentucky.
Yes, they do.
Yes.
Hold on.
Where did we end up on that?
I don't know.
I just listened to that.
I have no idea where it's at.
You were just like, I am wrong.
Because we were reading a bunch of shit.
You were just like, well, I guess I was just all wrong.
Don't you just love the humility that I have to admit that 99% of the time I'm wrong?
God.
Yeah.
Isn't that wonderful?
Sean's like, did we record that?
I'm never wrong.
I went there, recorded, he admitted he was wrong.
I will crush you.
I'm like, dude, relax.
First of all, he's saying that.
That's sarcasm.
Okay?
He doesn't have humility.
Because if he did, he would not have said 99%.
99% of the time I'm wrong.
He would have just said sometimes I'm wrong.
This is a Tennessee high malt.
And it's got all kinds of stuff.
Oh, a Tennessee high malt.
It's got all kinds of stuff on the back.
It's extremely, it's got a lot of stuff going on here.
I have no idea.
I tell you what though.
There's a bottle on there.
There's a lot of spice.
Yep.
But it's not overwhelming.
Oh, God, really?
Oh, God.
Would you stop it?
What are you doing?
He just threw up, threw up in his microphone.
I was trying to taste it.
With my tonsils.
Wow.
Your eyes were all watery.
It's okay.
I'm back.
Are you?
I had to get a little water.
What a mess.
Chattanooga.
What have we got?
Well, it says it contains one of four unique mash bills.
B004, B005.
It's a blend.
No, it's one of these mash bills.
SB055 or SB091.
What does that mean?
They don't know what mash bill this single barrel is?
It's a Russian roulette.
That's retarded.
Hey, we're going to pick a bottle.
I don't know which one it is.
Get a barrel.
Just put it in there.
It's one of those four.
It's one of those.
What did we put in there?
I don't know, Bob.
Then it says, that's retarded.
Come on, Miguel.
What's wrong with you?
Fermentation is...
Yeah, I can see that.
...and temperated for seven days.
Bob asked Miguel, what's in that barrel?
I don't know.
I'm sorry.
It's one of these four.
Really?
Then it says, Cooperage, charred or toasted, and charred oak barrels.
Do you know what toasted means?
Slightly.
Come on.
Slightly burnt.
No.
Yes.
No.
Yeah.
Listen, toasted, I learned this.
Toasted is when they bake the barrel before they char it.
Same thing.
No.
Yes.
It's not.
Yeah.
Hold on, hold on.
How would you know?
You were wrong last week.
I'm wrong 99% of the time.
Okay, you are right, but there's a reason why they do that.
Yes.
Do you know why?
It brings out more flavor.
But why?
More vanillas.
Why, though?
Because that's what the owner is said to do.
Because it takes out the water.
So once the water...
What?
Once the liquid in the oak gets dehydrated out, evaporates out, then the barrel turns
into like a tea bag.
And it's able to...
So the bourbon is getting tea bagged.
Well, sort of.
Ball sack.
Nice.
But when the...
It's kind of like when you cut down a tree and you're trying to stick a wet tree on a
fire.
You know how it smokes and gets all crazy?
That's because it's wet.
Cracks and pops.
Yeah.
And when it's completely dry, it goes up like that.
So why would the barrel wood be wet, Sean?
Because it's made out of wood.
No.
They actually wet the wood.
Why?
The exterior?
Do you mean they soak it or they wet it?
Nope.
They wet it to be able to make it malleable to shape it into a barrel.
Did you know that?
I did.
Yes.
I thought they used linseed oil.
Well, they can be used linseed oil, but that's toxic.
I think they use 1030 weight.
No.
Water is a good way to do that.
Yeah.
So they wet the...
So they cut the staves, right?
And we talked about the tree.
In one tree, they get two barrels.
But not all the staves are perfect, right?
So they mix and match staves from all these different trees and they form the barrel.
They wet it and then they bend it in.
Do they pee on it or what kind of water?
Is the water purified or is it pulled from a little river?
It's limestone.
It's filtered water with no iron.
That's so retarded.
Right?
Limestone.
They run that...
And the guy from the whatever Irish whiskey venue, I asked him that and he was kind of
like...
He's like, get the fuck out of here.
Well, what he said was he was like, no, it's like a super filtered water.
And I was kind of like...
I had that look on my face.
I was like, bitch, really?
I mean, they go through all this limestone.
I hear Jeff in my background going, limestone.
I'm like, okay, if they have to filter the shit out 15 times, then why does limestone
fucking even matter?
You know?
Dude, way back when...
I mean, we talked about this, I think, last time, right?
Way back when they didn't have filtered water, but limestone water is naturally filtered.
But nowadays, reverse fucking opmosis, right?
I mean, you don't need...
Sorry, I...
I'm sorry.
I got passionate.
Can I...
Nowadays, they have reverse osmosis water.
That doesn't help at all.
It doesn't at all.
It just makes you sound even more retarded.
Thanks, Sean.
Anyway, but you know what I'm saying?
They also say, and it naturally has magnesium and calcium...
Wait, calcium.
With a cadmium.
Oh, strontium.
And you added turmeric last time.
The turmeric kings.
Turmeric.
King turmeric.
Dude, is that the second half?
Because I think we were toasty.
I think it was.
All right, all right.
Let's close this up.
So the Chattanooga thing...
Yes.
Do we have a nose?
Yeah, but hold on.
We really didn't get a description because, frankly, I haven't seen it.
So the recipe, the Riverbend Collab single malt one off, mashbill, Riverbend Munich malted
barley, toast, sage, Tasty Notes.
It's really hard to understand what this is all about.
It says code R18087.
No, that's what that means.
Unless you have a decoder ring for those Chattanooga fans out there.
All right, look, I can't really direct you to the specific barrel.
Well, I will tell you ours is 118.6 proof and it is a bourbon, right?
Correct.
Yes, it says it's straight bourbon.
It's straight bourbon.
And the straight bourbon means?
It's been aged for 477 years.
So it's like tar.
That is incredible.
And there's nothing left.
It actually says...
It basically straightened the inside of the barrel to give it.
It actually says...
That would be sludge.
We're drinking pudding.
Greater than four years.
Nice.
That's what straight bourbon means?
Well, it's older than two.
No, straight means age at least two years.
At least two years.
And straight bourbon, no one's going to age their bourbon like two years.
Some do.
I know.
But most of them are like three, four, five plus years.
So straight bourbon just means it's over two years.
Yes.
Correct.
So it's kind of a simple way to say, hey, we're cheap.
If they didn't age it...
Oh, sorry.
Oh, God.
Give me a sec.
If they didn't age it, you know...
Well, I have to say...
I would say four years is like the standard, wouldn't you guys?
Probably is.
Yeah.
Actually, I'd say three.
Three to four.
Yeah, I'd say three.
But it's starting to get up there.
I mean, you've got these people that have been in business, like Rebecca Creek of the
12 year.
Oh my God, that's fantastic.
That is amazing.
Have I had the 12 year?
Yeah.
They don't age it down here for 12 years.
That's MGP.
Do they include that?
Are you sure?
Are you saying Rebecca Creek doesn't use their own stuff?
Well, it says 12 years on the bottle.
I don't think you can age a bourbon 12 years here in Texas.
That's interesting.
And Bob's doing what you say.
He's trying to push him one to 10.
Yeah, but it says 12 years on the bottle.
So what does that mean?
It could have been aged 12 years.
Maybe they bought it at eight years old or nine years old.
So I'm trying to figure out what you're saying.
Are you saying that...
They bought it aged from MGP and then maybe they...
It could be 12 years from MGP and they just bottled it down there.
Do you know that for a fact that Rebecca's Creek is...
That's what they're doing?
You can't age MGP.
MGP is like just a core distillate.
They age their stuff.
In what?
Barrels.
Are you joking?
No.
So I think...
I've not heard this part of it.
All the above is available.
If you want to buy the distillate and you want to age it yourself in any kind of barrels
you want, you have that option.
If you want to buy it aged to a certain two years, one year, two years, three years, four
years, you probably can do that too.
So you can buy MGP in a generic barrel and then take it and then put it in your own barrel?
If you want to double oak it.
Yeah.
Or just keep it in that barrel and age it some more.
Why would the MGP folks just put their own label on there if they're going to go through
all that process?
They're starting to do that.
They're starting to release their own stuff.
The Remus, I believe their stuff is the Remus.
We have some out there.
Yeah.
Because they were in the business of making bourbon for other people.
They didn't want to get into distribution.
They didn't want to get into retail sales.
They just wanted to sell it to other people.
Like if we wanted to start our own whiskey, we could buy MGP and they'd ship us barrels.
MGP juice.
Yeah.
MGP juice.
All right.
Well, let's get down to the nuts of this.
Let's taste it.
But this time I'm trying to, I'll try not to choke on it.
I think the nose is pretty.
I finished it.
I don't know why I did it, but my throat is a little tingly.
I think the nose is a little weak.
He looked over at my glasses empty and he's like, what?
What just happened, Paul?
I smell lots of vanillas.
I don't smell or taste anything because I just down the whole thing.
I don't smell a little strawberry in there.
You know, a little stone fruit.
I figured that.
I smell leather sandals.
So it's definitely, um, it's got a lot of spice to it.
A lot of spice.
Little, little baseball glove going on.
I'm ready to rate it.
It's nice leather.
As far as Viscousy, I mean, it does.
It does coat the mouth pretty good.
It's got it does.
It does have legs on the glass.
Are you guys ready to rate it?
Mr. Producer, are you ready to record our rating?
I'll give it a six.
Chattanooga single barrel.
Six, six, five, six, eight, six, five, six, six.
I'll give it six, six.
That's exactly what I was going to say.
Six, six.
That's never happened before.
I think I'd go to a seven.
You realize you gave, uh.
Harpies?
Yeah.
To whom?
Um.
To Jeff?
What the hell, what did we have last week?
I can't remember last week.
Redemption.
Yeah, seriously?
You gave the redemption a seven, seven.
So you like the redemption better than this, the whole point?
Um, I didn't give it a seven, seven, did I?
Did I really?
Yes.
Well, you weren't yourself.
You had eight glasses prior to that.
That's right.
I just want to stay consistent in our rating.
Well, you know, I gotta be, it's gotta be, I don't want to look back that way.
I have to be, it's right now.
Sean has emotional responses and he's letting it all, he's pulling his whole soul into this
rating.
So I give it a seven.
I give it a six, six.
It's got good flavor.
Um, the nose isn't real strong for me.
It's got a little floral.
To me, to me, the spice, uh, it overpowers a little bit of the flavor.
I got some honey now.
That's the only reason why I bring it down a couple notches, but that's it.
Almost some blackberries and strawberries in there.
A little bit in the back end.
Like maybe overripe bananas.
Um, Jeff, I'm still at.
You can't change it.
Yeah, I've already been recording.
Well, you know, I'm at a, I'm, I'm, well, that makes sense because your palate today
may be a little bit different than it was last week.
Well, shit.
Yeah.
Fuck man.
All right.
You said I, for some reason last week I was like, well, stress, stress and dehydration.
I think I was a little thirsty and it was just coming back big time.
You're a stress drinking.
And it tasted good.
Maybe.
I don't know, man.
It was good.
No, six, six is good though.
Well, hold on.
What do you mean you talked about that?
No, I'm talking about the redemption.
Because I was editing that one today.
I was like, wow, he graded that one high.
Really high.
It's just because it was sweet.
It was a good, it was solid.
The redemption, you know, it was a, I gave it that high score because I was tasting it.
I was drinking it and that was part of the problems because I was able to fucking drink
it.
You could become an alcoholic drinking redemption.
Right.
You can because I'm just literally like pounding it.
Really smooth.
Yeah, it was.
This one, you're not going to pound this unless you're Paul.
I mean, you're not going to be able to pound this one.
I guess I could, but it's a.
It's a little, it's a little harsher than last.
It is.
It's not as smooth.
That's, that's the only reason why I didn't push it up closer to like a six, eight, six,
nine.
But the flavor, I like the flavor of it.
What was the proof of redemption?
88.
It was 88.
Well, there we go.
I mean, that's, you know, that's smooth.
A lot of those are smooth.
This one's 116.
118, so 30 points.
Yeah.
Well, there you go.
So we're all over the place.
Oh, you didn't make it.
I said seven.
You said seven.
Okay.
All right.
So we're all close.
So we throw out the two, we throw out the lower score.
I don't know what, I don't know what actually what Mr. Producer is doing.
I mean, as far as like his ratings, are you recording all three of our ratings?
That's awesome.
It's good stuff.
Good.
All right.
Well, the bourbon's great.
Thank you, Chattanooga.
Yeah.
And where did we get this bottle?
And if we.
Oh, we got this at Total Wine.
It was one of the stands suggested.
And if Chattanooga ever is listening, anybody, any representatives from Chattanooga?
We'd love to try any other bottles you have, send them our way and we'd be glad, glad to
try them because we enjoy them all.
Okay.
So I want to give a quick shout out to a couple of listeners out there.
First of all, Stan, thank you, Brian and Matthew.
Brian.
I don't even know how to say your last name.
Brian.
Shana Fahazer.
Yeah, we got some we got some avid listeners.
Yeah.
And then we got Matthew Greenlight.
Greenlight Matthew and Stan from Total Wine.
Three guys I play video games with a lot and they do listen to podcasts and they make some
comments.
Oh, yeah, we heard you talk about this shit.
So shout out to you guys.
Thank you for listening and keep it up.
Stay strong.
You know, it's always exciting.
You know, I tell different people about the podcast and then I'll have lunch with them
or go to happy hour and they'll be like, dude, I've been listening to your podcast.
It's awesome.
And I'm like, really?
Really?
Yeah.
Like, why?
Spread the word.
We want more listeners.
That's the key.
We're still after this is our fifth season, still trying to figure out how to spread the
word.
Yeah, I know.
It's not.
Well, I mean, it's not easy.
There's a million, a million or more millions.
Yeah, there are.
Again, again, so many people out there.
We could pay money.
But we're niche to market us.
But we're niche.
We are looking for dudes like us.
Right.
I mean, similar stories.
You know, I mean, everybody's got different stories.
But I mean, there are people out there that I mean, we're we are staunch Republicans.
But, you know, I don't care.
I mean, people could know Democrats could show up and we could talk because look, dudes
like us.
Well, we've had that.
You know, absolutely.
Yeah, it didn't work out very well for some of them, you know, but I mean, like one of
them left drunk as shit and stupid, you know, and then and then and then the other one was
just, you know, just the continuity.
You know, but we want to be we want to be the type of we want to be objective.
Right.
I mean, hopefully we're not like so ridiculously over the top that we can't even listen to
the opposite side and and hear those hear those arguments and go, no, that's got merit.
Oh, I did.
Oh, I didn't know that history or we do.
There's so much we don't know.
You know what I mean?
Like the why the why behind.
I mean, you want to know what I want to know why right now?
I want to know why we aren't putting why we aren't exporting, deporting these thousands
of thousands of protesters of the Hamas that are there.
They're literally terrorists.
If you say death to Jews, you are you are saying death to Americans.
I mean, some of the stories I was reading today, they were they were quoting what they
were chanting and it was like, you know, these kids don't know what the hell they're talking
about.
I don't think these are the same protesters who protested everything.
They're just they're just anti establishment.
They need to be held accountable.
But what the stuff they're chanting to do.
I agree.
But it's like 10 more missiles.
We like we love that you're doing that.
I mean, it's like what?
No, I know.
I agree.
I mean, there's there's some true believers in there.
Some of the Palestinians or whatever.
But most of them are just career protest.
They're brainwashed into, you know, getting some they just joined.
But I like it like in Dearborn, Michigan.
They had some sort of protest.
Correct.
And one of the guys was talking about their their say they said death to America.
Absolutely.
Oh, yeah.
Death to America.
Death to Israel.
Death to America.
Yeah.
The shit they say in Iran.
What happens?
You can't you can't say that in the United States.
You know, there are people don't be here.
If you're saying death to America, go away.
Go.
It's not a gently.
We don't need to just tell.
Hey, if you don't like it, go away.
I know.
No, we there needs to be a military presence.
We're going to put you on a plane and we're going to send you to Gaza.
Yeah. You know what?
Look, you guys pack your shit up and get the fuck out.
You've got 10 minutes because we're taking you and you guys and all these that are in the middle.
Look, I don't care if you're gay.
But here's the thing.
But hold on.
Hold on.
There are gay people out there supporting Hamas.
Of course.
These fucking idiots are they're fucking idiots.
Do they don't have any concept of what really happens to gay people out there?
They what?
They're routinely hung in Iran.
They're thrown off of buildings.
That's like Saudi Arabia does that all the time.
Palestine does that.
You know, it's just sickening.
And these people are so ignorant.
Ignorant.
The word is the perfect word.
I was talking.
I don't remember who it was.
I was like, so these people are saying death to Jews, you know, and all this stuff.
Do they realize they're essentially trying to replicate what Hitler did?
Right.
Do they do they connect those dots?
No, they do not.
And they call Trump a Nazi.
Right.
Go look back.
Well, some of these are probably Holocaust deniers.
Right.
There are a subset of folks who deny that that even happened.
Right.
I know.
Right.
I mean, have they thought that through or someone said you're replicating what Hitler
did.
You're wanting to do the same thing.
Is that really what you want to do?
They would.
They would be.
You would have a very visceral reaction to that.
Like you're you don't know what you're talking about.
You're ignorant.
Like they're they're insane, man.
They're so brainwashed.
I tell you what, if I had a kid going to Columbia or Yale or Harvard, I'd almost yank their
asses out of there, especially if they were Jewish.
Hell, they can't even go.
They were told that they were told the Jewish students to stay away because it wasn't safe.
And they all went to.
I would demand classes compensation from my tuitions.
Absolutely.
Because the school failed on protecting them.
The school failed across the board.
They're letting people camp out there.
Hundreds of tents, including a Elon Omar's daughter.
And she's got kicked out of school.
Good.
Fuck that bitch.
And they they they shut off her access to the dorm and the dining hall.
And did you hear what she said?
I'm homeless.
I'm homeless and starving.
Look at me.
It's like really.
Go cry to your dad, Ford slash uncle bitch and brother.
You know, fuck her.
Fuck Ilan Omar.
Fuck the whole cause that they've got going on.
That's my dude perception.
It's just not healthy.
Well, yeah.
So none of this healthy.
So the whole Columbia, I think it's the worst of Columbia, which is in downtown New York, is the worst.
And they went to Yale and Harvard to the other Yale and Harvard and MIT.
And you it's is this is this something that's been going on for a long time?
And if I just missed this.
Well, the Palestine thing is I'm just saying in general, I'm just saying in general, I mean, because they talk about, oh, there's been protests in the 60s, 70s.
The protests have been going on forever.
But to me, it seems like I have never seen it as as harsh as it is right now.
It was extremely volatile.
Yeah, this is like this is the point where I feel this is like Kent State type of this was very for Alec Baldwin.
Yeah, you know, I mean, I don't even like that douchebag.
And I felt bad for him.
I was like, dude, I want to beat the fuck out of that.
Hold on.
So what was the story there?
He went to get a coffee.
He was just he was just getting a coffee in some life.
So he seriously he just happened to be in the area where all that shit was going down.
No, I don't know where it happened.
Hold on. Hold on. Look, a little context here.
So he was at a store. He was at a just a regular coffee shop is doing his own morning thing and some YouTuber that is trying to get clicks.
Yeah, she's like some it's like a crackhead Barney or crackhead, something like that.
It's a Barney crackhead, something his name of her name in her tag name.
Anyway, she has a reputation of going around and harassing people.
And she was like, oh, look, Bob, you know, Mr. Producer, can you pull up that clip?
Yeah, Alec Baldwin, he wanted he wanted him to wanted him to support Palestine.
Yeah. Do you support Alec Baldwin?
Did you murder somebody? Did you murder somebody?
You know, you know, why are you in jail?
I like, you know, she's just pushing his buttons, pushing his buttons.
And she wants him to get like, like, say, say you are for Hamas.
Are you for Hamas? Are you for Hamas?
I mean, that's something like that.
Hit video. Yeah, it's crazy.
That's just not right, man.
All right. Let's see if we can't hear it because I mean, this was this was crazy.
That looks good. Yeah. 43 seconds. Yeah. They hit that.
No.
Palestine one time.
Why did you kill that lady? No jail time, Alec.
No jail time, Alec.
Actor Alec Baldwin caught on video slapping a woman's phone.
So they so they call him out, but not her.
Yeah. And the thing about it is seriously, why is it can't?
Why? This is so unfair because they didn't even play the full clip.
You know, she sat there and harassed him for two or three minutes.
You know, you know what? I think it's funny.
And I may have heard this from somebody. I'm stealing their material.
But what would have been funny if he would have said
he could have given the coffee shop a shout out.
He said, I'm not talking to anything until I've had my morning coffee from,
you know, filter coffee.
And this is a double like double latte.
I'll talk to you right after I have my coffee, because it'll kind of diffuse her.
Completely. It'll mock her.
It'll mock her, defuse her.
It is kind of like, oh, let me just drink my coffee and I'll talk with you.
Dude, he's had a rough he's had a rough year, man.
And, you know, even though I look, I don't like him because he's a he
because of his stance with Donald Trump and he's just a he's a pimp.
He's a pimp. He is. He is.
But you know what? I don't want this. I don't wish this on anyone.
Yeah, I don't wish him this, but I don't wish him killing that woman.
I mean, I get it. But he and he's going to have his day in court.
But he should be able to go to a fucking coffee shop
and have a coffee without being harassed.
I mean, I don't wish that on anybody.
The mayor of New York City in an airplane was harassed by somebody similar.
Not the same. But Adams, you come out mayor Adams of New York City.
Yeah. Black dudes.
He was on the plane and some bitch comes up to him and says, fuck you, man.
That's not that's not that's not acceptable.
That's what a lot of these.
Why do we think that's a an acceptable way to to engage in all they're doing
is they're looking for clicks and likes and bullshit like they can sell the video to all these.
Correct. That's all they're trying to do.
There's a whole set of these tick tockers, YouTubers who go around harassing people looking for a response.
So pathetic.
So let you guys let's talk about the presidential election.
And I want to I don't want to talk about individuals.
I want to talk about just normal things that happen when when you have a presidential election.
You usually have the debates.
When when do the debates start?
Yes, but there won't be any.
They'll debate after the conventions.
Jeff, can I have so is that what it is?
Yeah, yeah, I want to touch up on mine, too.
It's after the conventions, which are in August, I believe.
So the debates typically don't start till after August.
So it's normal for.
Yeah, this is this is going to be the longest presidential campaign in history
because the two candidates were named what?
In January.
Oh, right.
Yeah, because there was no primary.
Right.
There's no primaries.
So it's a given that Trump and Biden are the two candidates usually don't know that until August.
That's right.
Who the official?
Now, you kind of have an idea.
Oh, yeah.
You have a front runner.
But I guess officially in August, the old name Biden, when all the states raise their flags for whoever.
Not the Ukraine flag in the way.
Not the razor flags, but that's what they have big conventions.
I thought it's black smoke or white smoke if they've made a decision.
That's the pope.
That's the Vatican.
Yes.
The new pope gets elected.
Yeah, I was trying to think of the Mexican restaurant.
You laid your flag.
Raise the flag.
That's that's Chico's stock.
Well, in Denver, that's a very famous restaurant that these two.
I'm talking about the ones here in Texas.
Fuck Denver.
No, it's called Casablanca.
No, it's called Ponchos.
That's what it is.
But there's a place in Denver called Casablanca.
That place sucks.
No, it does.
Oh, my God.
There's a story behind it.
That's my childhood story.
We care about Ponchos.
That's it, because it gives me the shits.
I was going to say Ponchos sucks.
Oh, yeah.
Is that her name?
Is it still around?
No.
Well, actually, I think they may be.
I think there may be a couple.
There's a couple left of Ponchos.
All right.
Hold on.
Back up, back up, back up.
I think Ponchos is the equivalent of Cici's pizza.
That's worse.
You know what I mean?
In terms of Mexican food and pizza.
It is the Cici's of pizza.
If you get a fresh out of the oven Cici's, it's edible.
But as soon as it sits for any amount of time, it's nasty.
Ponchos, I don't care.
It's just nasty.
From the get go.
Oh, well, it's been 30 years since I've had it.
I've had one bad experience.
There was one.
That was enough.
There was a Ponchos in El Paso.
I freaking loved it, man.
All right, so I digress.
All right.
What were we talking about before?
I completely forgot.
We were talking about raising flags, and I said something about smoke.
We were talking about the congressional.
When are they going to start to debate?
That was the whole thing.
The convention.
They're going to.
They're conventions.
Do you really believe they're not going to debate at all?
They're just going to go straight to it?
Trump wants to debate.
Biden has said, no, I don't want to because he can't.
Already Democrats are giving reasons for why Biden shouldn't debate.
Yeah, because he doesn't behave.
Because he's not behaving.
Because he won't debate.
This is, guys, there's going to be no debate.
How is that even, how is that acceptable to the American public?
It's not.
So is he going to get elected?
They're going to try their best to force it in.
I know.
This is insane.
Insane.
This is the craziest thing I've ever heard.
There will be no debates.
This will be the first forever, right?
Ever?
I don't know about that.
Last.
Because he can't debate.
Hold on.
In 2020, did they have debates?
Yeah, they did.
He had one.
It was done by Chris Wallace, and he was an absolute ass.
He had a couple.
I believe there will not be one debate this year, and this may be the first ever.
I agree.
I don't think there is, because they're going to have to hop him up on whatever drugs he
was on for State of the Union.
State of the Union.
And his heart may not be able to take that.
No.
Trump will shut him down.
It's insane.
Well, we thought that last time, too.
And then, you know, they didn't give Trump the platform that he needed.
Well, they're saying that they're going to turn the climate crises into an issue where
it's going to be similar to COVID around election time.
Where we need all the mail-in ballots again.
Yeah, they're going to be like, oh, I mean.
Well, you can't go outside because of the sun rays.
What the fuck is this all about?
What am I going to get, like, you know, with my job?
Because I've got to be outside?
Am I going to get hazard pay?
Did you see?
I mean, I know you guys, the YouTube video that we watched is called the climate, the
movie.
Oh, yeah.
They yanked it.
Yeah, they just said it's misinformation.
I'm like, but wait a second.
He's a NASA scientist, the foremost, the renowned.
They yanked it off the Internet?
Off of, they shut it down somewhere.
Is it on Rumble?
They shut it down off of somewhere.
I should have fucking downloaded it.
So they said it's just misinformation.
You can probably find them on Rumble.
I mean, but it's on a website as well.
But it talks about so many things, right?
It talks about, like, it talks about carbon dioxide does not affect the temperature.
And there was all these scientists that are vetted that said.
I mean, what gives them the authority to yank shit like that?
It's their company.
They can do it.
You're talking about YouTube.
Yeah.
But why don't they just?
They can.
Unfortunately, as much as we dislike it, it's their company.
They can do it.
But they just just like if we own a company and Joe Biden put out a video like, yeah,
we're taking that down.
We could.
It's insane.
I don't think anybody's getting the truth that carbon, carbon.
Which is there.
This is that's the major focus on everything.
Well, they said that carbon dioxide is the major focus of everything.
What's your carbon footprint?
Every single company on the planet now, it's like point oh four percent of the atmosphere.
Yes.
And every company on the planet is is obsessed with, you know, reducing their.
It's still on YouTube.
Yeah.
Well, it got it got it got shut down somewhere.
I can promise you.
Facebook, maybe.
I don't know.
I'll tell you what, when I'm sitting there and I'm applying jobs, I almost have to vomit
at the amount that I see about how they're so focused on ESG and environmental social
governance and culture and DEI, diversity and all that shit.
I was like, I don't want to work for your company.
But I tell you what.
So after I guess Texas passed a law and now all these universities are cutting all their
DEI staff.
Well, Florida did the same thing.
I love it.
I love it because it's a scam.
It is.
The carbon dioxide thing is a scam.
The whole thing is a scam.
And when you look at all the things, the trillions of dollars that are invested, it's a scam.
The windmills, not necessary.
The the, you know, the solar panel stuff, not necessary.
I mean, it's all of this done on the on the preface of a lie.
Right.
The only reason I'd get solar or a windmill is if I could be self-sustaining, I'd have
to pay money for it.
Right.
Like out in the country.
Yeah.
If I was.
You're not allowed to download from YouTube unless you pay for a subscription.
That's weird.
Yeah.
Interesting.
That makes sense, though.
Yeah, it does.
Trying to get their money.
Yeah.
But they still have it.
I'm surprised it's still available because somebody told me it shut down somewhere.
I don't know.
Obviously, it's not YouTube.
Yeah, it's still up there.
But it was it was basically tagged as misinformation.
I forwarded you guys.
I think I did.
I forwarded you guys the actual because it wasn't they didn't say it's missing.
They did say it's missing fish in this information.
They had like nine points and one of them was misinformation.
And the other eight was misleading information.
Really?
Yeah.
So those were the other the other styles.
So they're like, you know, so they they labeled the whole thing misinformation.
But there's only one.
One claimed they said misinformation.
The other are misleading.
You know what?
But my when the kids were going through school specifically fourth or fifth grade, I know
Brandon, I think, or maybe was Stephen, I think was Brandon.
His teacher showed them an inconvenient truth without a counterpoint.
If I was a teacher, I would show inconvenient truth and I would show that.
And I would say, now we're going to have a debate and discussion.
Yeah.
Right.
I think that's what a teacher should do.
It's not a one side over the other.
You teach it and you make the kids understand the differences.
And yes, they're going to go, wow, inconvenient truth was fucking wrong.
Yeah.
Look at the data.
Critical thinking.
Yeah.
Look at the data and make your own come to your own conclusion.
That's one of the things that in that movie, the climate, the climate movie, there was
a professor of I forget what university it was, but he was like, I tell them the data
is readily accessible.
Go look at the data and you tell me you make your own determination.
Does the data support what they're saying?
And he's like, it's overwhelmingly, it overwhelmingly does not, does not.
Right.
I mean, I'm just like, anyway.
I guarantee it.
YouTube will probably flag this podcast, particular podcast when I upload it or when it gets uploaded.
Why?
We didn't mention COVID.
Just did.
Sorry.
COVID really happened.
It did.
COVID really happened.
It was a real thing.
It was a real thing, but there was a bunch of lies tied around it.
But yeah, it was real.
No, I just ruined it.
No, I just exactly.
I was trying to keep us from being pulled down, bro.
No, it didn't matter.
The point is, is that.
Bourbon is real.
Well, this.
There's so much ugliness going on right now.
I know.
And really it's affecting me.
I don't, I don't feel like, like it's depressing me.
Yeah.
It's depressing.
I'm almost, I'm almost at the point where if my kids were in middle school thinking
about going into high school, not thinking about going into high school.
Hey dad.
And you're thinking about going into high school.
Well, then you're thinking, okay, what's next?
Do you have the discussion with them that says college may is a scam at this point,
unless you want to become a doctor or a lawyer or some kind of engineer.
Yeah.
How do you tell your son that everything you're going to learn in college is probably a lie?
Avoid college.
Right.
Look at trade school, welding, HVAC, this, this, this.
Well, now, now they're saying welding is, is fake.
What?
I'm kidding.
I'm sorry.
That was a joke.
Well, welding is a fantastic career.
Well, he doesn't want to do it now.
He wants to get into auto mechanic.
Well, there's nothing wrong with that either.
I know.
But they don't make anyone near as much as welders.
ASC certified.
I'm sure they do well.
Do they?
They can.
That's my youngest we're talking about.
Yeah.
And he's doing trade school and I'm excited for him.
Well, you got to support what they do, whether how much money they make or not is relevant.
But you got to do fucking something.
That's a great point.
Yeah.
You got to have a plan and you got to start doing it.
But, but you do have to think about a career that supports whatever your lifestyle you
think you need in your lifestyle.
Right?
If you're a kid that's like name brand shit and, and I'm going to get a hot wife and
we're going to, you know, then you, you better think ahead that that's a lifestyle that requires
money.
Well, yeah.
And then you better think about like a career.
You better pick a degree or a trade school.
That will support that.
So I'm trying to train them on that.
Some of the differences between, um, the kids, some of the kids nowadays versus me or maybe
you guys is I think we were kind of thrown in the fire.
We're kind of like sink or swim bitch.
I mean, when I was, when I graduated high school, uh, I ended up going to UTEP for a
year and before I moved away and it was sick or swim.
I moved out.
Right.
I had it.
I had to, I had to survive.
Right.
I think that's different for a lot of kids nowadays.
And you did the shank rules.
Yeah.
I did a lot of stuff to make money.
You have to, you got to do everything you can to survive.
Cause it's, it's you.
I didn't have any, I didn't like you said, sink or swim.
I didn't, my parents, I didn't get that support.
You know, I could have gone back home, but there was no way I was going to go back
home.
Well, I think, I think, I think also is there's, there's a different mindset today that they
don't want to leave.
Right.
It's it, it is a different, uh, we're too much, not, not helicopter parents, but we're
too, too like wrap our wings around our children.
I'm not.
Well, I know you're not, I know you're not.
You kicked them out at what 14?
Yeah.
12.
Back in 1868, they were fucking plowing a 10 years old bitch.
I see it out there.
I see it as my cigarette.
I see it as my goal as zero through 18.
It's my job to train them to move out.
Yes.
Be self sufficient.
I get it.
Well, I've seen the same thing.
And then you, you support after that to help them be successful.
Yes.
But you want them out of the house.
Yes.
I agree.
Doing their own thing, being successful, being happy, whatever they're, whatever that
is.
Right.
But it's, it's, it's not, it's, it's not, look, this is happening across the United States.
Yeah.
Oh it is.
It's not prevalent.
It's not everybody.
Well, it's most of the people is what I'm getting at.
You know, there are some people that don't and there's, there's a lot of, there's more
people that do is what I'm getting at.
So I'm trying to figure out what this phenomenon is and how did it come about?
You know?
I think it's parenting style.
Correct.
It's generational erosion of, of, of hardcore parenting to where we don't want to see our
kids fail.
So we, we, we prop them up and we, we give them.
Our parents, parents?
Were not nice.
No.
They were like, get the fuck out.
Yeah.
My, my grandfather on my dad's side was a douche bag.
Yeah.
He would, he would beat, I want to say beat, but he, he had hit me with a fucking stick.
Yeah.
It was different.
I'm talking like a fucking walking stick.
I got chased with a broom by my grandmother when I.
Kids were not meant to be seen.
I don't even know what I did, but she was swinging it at me.
Thank God.
She didn't like your hearing aids.
Thank God.
Well, yeah.
Well, I didn't have a hearing aid.
At one.
Kill the retard.
He, he, he hit me.
We're gonna have to edit all of that is so bad.
It is you guys are making fun of me.
I'm, I'm.
Oh, I know you made fun of yourself.
I'm out.
No, no.
ADA is going to jump all over this shit because I am a disabled American and you guys are
fucking me up.
To?
Well, yeah, you're fucking the head.
Yeah.
That's my point.
We're all disabled to some degree for bastard.
We've all been there.
We've always pitted you.
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Yeah, I wanna hear about that.
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