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Chill out Barry.

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Put your shirt back on. What is this?

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It's the first half. I know it's been a month but.

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I waxed for this.

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Damn.

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Not only was it the top.

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It's been so long. Did you get some anal bleaching at the same time?

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It did. It kind of burned a little bit.

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It has been a long time.

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Long time.

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Wait.

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Large garbage bags which she was looking for.

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All right.

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Lots and lots has happened since the last time we sat at these microphones gentlemen.

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Quite a bit personally and just news wise.

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Stuff like dudes like us go through.

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Oh yeah.

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Lots of shit going on.

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We'll talk about it. We've got Jeff issues. We've got Paul issues.

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We've got trips to Colorado. We've got whiskey festivals.

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It's weird that Sean doesn't have any issues.

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Oh I forgot about the trip to Colorado. We haven't even.

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Oh that's right.

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We haven't had a trip since then. I mean a podcast since then as well.

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Speaking of issues I had issues on that trip.

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You sure did.

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Is your butt still OK?

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Well wait it was reamed.

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Did something happen while I was sleeping?

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I was on the top floor. You were the one.

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I was down there in the basement by myself.

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I think there were creatures that lived down there.

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You were down there with your power bars to sustain you.

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It was probably good because I was up most of the night.

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So it was probably good that I was down there not interrupting anyone.

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I should definitely talk about that.

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April 17th, 2024. It has been over a month.

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I think it's four weeks or five weeks.

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I'm editing March 5th now. I've got one more I think.

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So about four weeks.

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It's been about a month but it's been a hectic month.

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Busy busy.

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We've got our producer Mr. Austin available. Dudes Like Us. I am Sean.

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I'm Paul.

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And I am Jeff.

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And our producer is of age.

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And he's not joking.

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He actually can participate in the tasting.

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He's not.

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That's outrageous.

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I know.

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Austin is not our producer. He's not really known for.

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I want to say known for drinking. I mean he does drink.

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And when he does, God bless.

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He's a wild crazy man.

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Oh man.

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So he's definitely a dudes like us.

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No but he's he just turned 21.

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But he doesn't really drink that much.

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He doesn't really.

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And congratulations.

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That's a big birthday man.

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And it's a big deal for me because he's the he's now the 21.

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That's all my kids. That's the last one to hit 21.

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So they're all legal. You can all take him out to get drunk.

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I was thinking more like hey can you go to the store and pick me up some stuff.

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Now you have four options.

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Oh geez. I'm seriously. It's kind of like when we get the call we got to go.

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Total Wine Calls. Hey man we got some stuff in here. Get over here quick.

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Austin what are you doing. Right.

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Who's the closest to Total Wine.

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Right. So they're all they're all on Life 360 and you look at the dots and you figure out who's closest.

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Single bearer is available.

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Yep. Madeline that's you go. Go go go go.

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Dad I don't want to go.

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So where do we want to start this thing off. We want to start chronologically or.

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I don't remember. Let's talk about the Colorado trip because that was that was early on I think wasn't it.

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Yeah. What three weeks ago.

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Yeah. Yep. All right. So let me let me walk us through how that whole process happened.

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So we're having a St. Patty's Day party right. I believe it was a St. Patty's Day party and we and we were having a good time at the Murphy House and we were at the St. Patty's Day party and now we have a karaoke.

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A bunch of people came over. It was a throw. I was sick wasn't I.

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Yeah. I remember that.

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So he missed out but it was it was a great party. We had a good time and there was a little bit of a drama but you know we'll talk about that but I guess during that time we had such a great time my wife.

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West. Ah yes yes yes. Excuse me. So but my wife when you know she's we were on but she was drunk and she was talking because Austin's best friend is moving to Colorado. Yes to Boulder. Yeah.

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Yeah. He and his girlfriend Jacob and Evelyn they're moving out to Colorado to live. They're having fun. They love it. Yeah. And good for them.

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And Austin was like I don't know how he got bothered but my wife was like you know Sean will help you move. I guess they were talking with him. They're little.

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Their challenge being able to get the U haul and and they oh you know what Sean will take care of that for you. And and you found out like the next morning. Oh by the way you're going.

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And so I was kind of like you got to pick up the truck in like an hour ago. You know and look part of me was kind of like I can do this. Right. It's like fun and then I started really thinking I was like hold on.

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Paul has a family has a cabin out there and I was kind of like dot dot dot and then something else the dudes are going to be talking about and that's losing your job for whatever reason. Right. In the 50s.

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You know Jeff has experience. He's not at work right now. So he's laid off and so he's available. Paul's laid off because he's available sounds kind of connected dots like you know what.

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Let's make this a dude's like us thing and go hang out at Paul's wagon or I mean a cabin up there way out there in Colorado. Yeah. Yeah. No it was a great idea. So you know we drove out there and it was a great trip up there.

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Paul and I drove up there in your rental. I think you had a big ass expedition or something. It was nice. It was quite violently keeping you in your lane though. Yeah. I noticed that. Yeah. If you don't turn that thing off it will it will roll you. Yeah. It was violently saying you need to stay in this way.

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Yeah. Damn man. Wake up. Wake up. That's like a safety hazard. Yeah. It almost was because it would cut over. I love it man. Yeah. Yeah. Because I'm watching Netflix or something like that. It's kind of like I veer off a little bit. I was like hey hey hey little buddy.

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This wasn't a nice gentle nudge. It was a I want to turn the wheel. Yeah. You know sometimes they do that and that does it's alarming and it's startling especially if you don't know it's there. Right. Features turned on because I rent cars a lot and sometimes there sometimes it's not. And when it hits you they all have their own different vibration. Right. If you can anticipate that you know it's happening it's not going to give you a heart attack. I'm sitting here like relaxing just kind of making my lane change and it's stopping me and I'm not used to cars.

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I'm not used to cars smart like that. I have a freaking 2006 Jetta right. Right. So I'm going to I'm going to over correct and I'm going to shoot us off the off the shoulder right. I mean it's crazy. Anyway I'm not a big fan of that. Yeah. The way up there we ran into it was just like I said Paul and I Sean was lucky enough to be in the U haul for 12 hours. So that was the air. That was nice air ride equipped. Yes. Yeah. The thing about the luxury luxury moving van. I'm sure. I'm sure.

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I'm sure everyone out there is running a U haul at some point in time in your lives. But the haul we got what a 16 15 18 foot or something like that. It wasn't a big one. It was one of the smallest ones that happen. It gets it goes 75. All right. So we step on the gas you get to 75 and once you get to 75 you if you continue to step on the gas it's got this little eco meter on the left. Yes. And it's kind of like it rubs up and it's kind of like oh my god we're in the red. Oh slow down. Get it back in the green. And then the car kind of like stalls and you just can hear the gas flying.

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The tailpipe as soon as you do that. And does it have like a gas estimator. It's like 27 28. Oh yeah. 470 5000. Well the thing is is that as that meter is going from red to green it's so distracting. And every time it gets in the red you're kind of like I'm a loser. You know but I just seriously I keep thinking because every time you stop and fill that fucking thing up it's 100 bucks. And I mean it just seemed like for a 12 hour trip 13 hour trip whatever it was I remember maybe it's 10 and a half. I don't remember how long it was. It was a long time.

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Yeah. How long was it was a 10 and a half. Well it's it's it's color springs. Well we love. Yes. Well it's it's a two hour. One hour difference or the two hour difference one one hour difference. We left to what about eight o'clock eight thirty.

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So is that about our head. About six o'clock. So so it was about 10 and a half 11 hours. When we got to that bar. Definitely the Colorado Springs. Yeah. So I mean it wasn't bad.

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It was kind of cramped being in there and only drive it wasn't bad. I enjoy driving like that. Yeah. Especially when there's a winter storm. Yeah. Yeah. That was that was the other thing. It started. Well first of all we live in Texas so we're not used to seeing snow period.

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So the fact that we get to be almost experiencing spring forward slash summer right now where it's hitting the 80s and getting up a little bit higher in the 80s sometimes. It just to leave Texas and be exposed to a different climate like that by itself is holy shit.

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That's fucking. And it was I mean it was just happenstance. I mean it you know I mean I don't even think it's normal for Colorado this late to have winter storm warnings but we rolled. Oh they had blitz warnings. They were right into it. Oh yeah we went right through it.

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That was crazy. So we powered through that we met up at the restaurant in Colorado Springs. It's called the Hatch. Shout out to the folks at the Colorado Springs the Hatch and we ate there. Tore it up went to Walmart bought some stuff almost stole it.

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Almost stole it. We were so confused and we were bickering amongst ourselves. Yeah we were through the we scanned everything and we just walked out. We got we got to the doors. Right. And then I think you were the one Sean said. I said did we pay for that.

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Did we pay for that. I was like no did you pay for that. Oh my God. Make a run for it. Go go go. That was fucked up because that was sincerely. It was a hundred bucks. Well I mean not just that but I honestly thought somebody else paid for that. Right. And we went back and it was sitting there going OK. Hello. The machine was like are you going to pay me. The little attendant guy was like. Yeah they were right on it weren't they. Oh yeah they had no idea what's going on. That's crazy. Anyway that was funny. Yeah. So I don't know if you guys.

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I mean I guess some people do it. I don't know. It's kind of crazy that we walked out with the. I walked out before we went on the bottom let you forget. Oh yeah yeah yeah. I've done that but not a whole basket full of groceries. Walk away from the thing. I scanned everything and just walked away. That's what we did. Dude the person working there would have totally bought.

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I had we gotten in the car and like driven away like and we're 30 minutes up the road. I would have gone back. Yeah. Right. Yeah but had us on video or on a rental three men in a rental three white men. Good Lord. Oh my God.

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Oh my God. So sick of it. Yeah. So we sweetly abuse. So we left it was about what a two hour trip from Colorado Springs to your cabin. Yes. And as we kept getting higher Colorado Springs is around four or five thousand feet I think. Yes.

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And we've determined your cabin is over 10,000. Yeah 10,000 feet almost exactly. Right. So I knew something was was going sideways when we got close because I was not feeling well and I was getting a headache at that point. And you got a rare snow up there at the point.

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Oh my God. It was a blizzard. Yeah. I mean it was there was snow. We couldn't. Yeah we couldn't get into the driveway we normally get into because the snow was like two feet. Yeah. Well the plow would come by and it was what they call that the drift where they call that the plow.

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Yeah the snow drift I mean this is the plow drift plow plow. Yeah but yeah exactly right. So as it goes speeds up and down the the you know the dirt roads up there elevation in Colorado six Colorado Springs is 6000. Yeah it creates a wall of snow.

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And so that was our driveway and we had to get over that and we tried to and that didn't go well. It didn't go well at all. So we had on that we had the big expedition we put in four wheel drive and it was actually had a bunch of fancy features in there. Oh yeah. It was just too deep. Well then then we went to the other driveway and we're like we can do this. Come on. Power through it. Power through it. And then then quickly we got to a.

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It was a fail. It was. And I was just like it's 11 o'clock at night. We're tired. We saw we had been driving for 15 16 hours straight pretty much. We get our shit. We trudge up to the cabin. Carrying all our shit up there. Ten thousand feet of course we're not used to that. So both Jeff and I are huffing and puffing.

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I was like did you pack your defibrillator. Even Paul was. Got your axe. Oh I was. Sister basketball player was huffing and puffing too. We had to get the cabin all started up and heated up and all that kind of stuff. So that whole process is kind of cool. I mean when the I don't think dudes like us are on the planet understand the process. When you have a when you live out remote like that and you're not out there for a couple weeks or a month or however long it is. A year. You've got you've got to when you're gone for an extended period you got to prep the house because if it's freezing

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temperatures happen. Well you don't want your whole God bless the house pipes to burst. That's right. And have a and then animals come in and then rots out and you show up a week or two or a month later or something like that and shit's all right. But my point is the cougars walk us through some of the of the breakdown and start up when you leave the house when you go there. What are you going to do. Yeah I mean so this is all well water right. So the first thing you have to do I mean when when we have left from the previous winter we drain all the water. It's apparently poisonous water.

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Well it's got right on gas. Yes. Right on. And that's tip that's normal for for the mountains up there I guess is to have right on in the air that collects in the in the basement like in the under the foundation space the core area.

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Yes. Thank you. So the first thing you got to do is turn on the fans to vent the the rate on gas. Then you got to you know then you got to turn on the the well the well pump right. You know then you have to close all the spigots you know that you left open and to drain all the water from the previous time you were there.

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Right. And then you charges the system right. The water gets there's a there's a prepper tank that kind of loads up and then it fills the hot water tank and then finally water starts coming out of all the faucets and you got to make sure you clean all get all the air out of the lines and then you can start shutting off faucets and stuff.

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Right. And then you got you know wait for the water to heater water heater to heat up. And I mean it's not it's not like you know it's not horrible but you just kind of you have to. It's a process. It's a process. Right. And then I know the water heater.

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I think you burnt the rods or they corrode the way right. So the water up there is is so harsh it's so hard water right with all the not chemicals but just mineral natural minerals right. And I finally figured out guys we can't cannot be using these standard standard elements.

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Heating elements you got to use stainless steel right which we have not been doing. So the next time I go up there I'm bringing stainless steel heating elements but yeah they get corroded so fast and so you know even though the tank.

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This is what it doesn't make sense to me. The tank is sitting empty like most of the time but I'll be damned if every single time I pull that heating element out it's it's blown up right. So we don't have hot water right. And so then that's frustrating.

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So anyway but yeah we got that resolved. We went to we don't went down to you know the town and got new heating elements and put them in and that was the next day. Yeah. Yeah. That night I didn't sleep very well I slept OK up and I have terrible shoulders and for whatever reason my shoulders were keeping me awake that first night as you got progressively worse.

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Oh yeah well I got progressively worse through that next day. Yeah. And but we went made a made a run into the little town there. Well the first thing we had to do is call the fire department.

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All right so we couldn't get the car out. We get there. We muscle through getting midnight. Yeah we get there we get our luggage up there and mind you there's a blizzard. So I was kind of we're tromping through snow. Yeah but for me I had

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purchased from I keep want to say Mervins. What is that store called. Coles. So they had a sale. They were like hey buy this jacket 70 percent off. It's one that you'd wear in Alaska and 70 percent off because we're here in Texas. Texas you never wear it. I was like I bought it because I'm stupid. I'm like I walked in there I was like 70 percent off I got to get this. I get it. And it turned out man it was getting clutch. Clutch. Yeah. And wasn't your wife giving you shit like why would you give me such a hard time ever.

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Oh dude that did that jacket was the warmest thing that I've ever worn in my entire life. It was like a Ford slash ever. No not a burka. No I had the big third. Yeah we had that. I have no idea. Good. Yeah I was cold as balls man. I was not prepared. You were cold. I'm prepared to be out there with your fucking Levi's leather jacket. Yeah. Fucking Fonzarelli out there. Yeah. In the morning I was not prepared. Every morning we woke up it was nine degrees. His single ply leather boots. Yeah well got it to what 45. He got it.

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Well no I don't. Yeah I was not prepared. It was in the 30s maybe as high as 40 but when we woke up every morning it was nine. It was cold. Ten. It was five degrees. It was cold. Four degrees. But you know I got to say being up in Colorado where's this fair play is close to fair play is that right.

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Fair play. Pretty close to fair play. So it's out there a ways and it's remote and there's my South Park right. Yeah. And this is so beautiful. Oh the snow is amazing. The whole valley was covered in snow and we don't see snow very often.

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Yeah the trip out there seeing the snow piled up on the tree branches was cool. Beautiful. Especially driving into town. So majestic. When we drove into town. Yeah. Oh yeah it looked like a what was the guy's name that makes all the white movies. Jim Burton or white movies. Yeah like planes trains automobiles.

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Talking about the skinhead movies. No the the the the story Nazi movies. World War Two. I'm just saying like what Molly boys the hood like what Molly Greenwald would say. What is that. Do you guys hear the story about John Hughes. Yeah. My movies are too white. Yes. That's kind of what I was driving out.

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Really they called his movies too white. She did. She had an interview. Molly Winglaw did. Yeah. They were talking about biting the hand that fed you. She's like they're too white. It's problematic that they were too white. Yeah I'm thankful or something. I don't know. Actually I don't know. That's so crazy. Meaning they had no black actors in it. She's trying to appeal to the progressives today. She wants work. That's all she wants. She wants work so she's putting herself out there in the middle of an interview saying that she's follows the diversity equity inclusion kind of process.

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And it's disgusting. All right. So you're saying driving through the mountains you thought you were in a huge. What was his name. John Hughes. Yeah. He's movie. Yeah I was like in a John Hughes movie. It was. It was it was cliche perfect clean and just perfect. I feel like shit. So I didn't enjoy it at all. Yeah you were like. Yeah I felt bad for you man. I didn't really know part of me was kind of like actually none of me was feeling like that. I just felt bad for you because even sitting down there the first day and I was just kind of like.

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I so wanted to get some beer out and looked over at Jeff and he's just like kill me. Jeff is not here. What was that guy's name. There is no Jeff. Oh yeah. Right. Well and what's talked about is like we we we were poised to have some fun. Oh yeah. I was I was I was going up there prepared for but man that fucking thing hit me and that second night it did me in. I know you were. I didn't sleep. I was like OK we need.

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Evac but I think I think you had more going on. I think altitude sickness had a little influence. Well I was sick going up there. Yeah but you weren't nauseous. I think it exasperated what you were already. You already had. I think so. Yeah I was puking that night before because that's not part of the normal sickness that you know.

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That's the altitude sickness the puking but the breathing. I was having trouble breathing. Hold on. I had all of it. But here's man. Look we got to do it again. I want you up there. No. We got to go on the we got to go on the Sean Paul rock and you got to join us.

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That was pretty cool. But he doesn't want to talk about it. But we have to stop in Colorado Springs. Well you have to have a night. Well they say well I was doing the research when I was wide awake at 3 a.m. puking.

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It says it says it kicks in at about eight thousand feet.

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And you're supposed to every thousand to fifteen hundred feet you're supposed to stop for a day or two to acclimate.

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So I don't know how you do that. That's a lot of stopping. Yes. Well that's what they say. If you if you get this that's how you combat it. How you how your body gets out how your body gets acclimated. So stopping in Colorado Springs wouldn't really help.

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No not much you're there for. Well no because you got to go up higher. Yeah you got to go up higher and stop. Let your body get used to it. Keep going. So and well then if we're going to be there for like you know a week or four or five days you have to go out there six weeks in advance.

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Six weeks in advance. And yeah it was terrible man. I felt that second day or was it third day whatever the fuck it was I felt so bad that I left. Well that's what we were like. OK dude you need to fly home. I got to go. So you did. Yeah. So we got to come up with a remedy for that. You know and I know one of it is staying at a lower altitude than coming up. But I'm thinking that if you're 100 percent meaning you're not ill don't have any lung shit going on. I'm thinking it may be doable.

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It may be doable but we got to have. What about those divers that have to get the Benz right. That's nitrogen. It's not the same thing. But what if we what if we buy some big iron lung. I was going to say give an iron lung. Yeah. We put you in the iron lung. I get in for seven or seven years.

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Like that guy. It's kind of like being in an airplane. No when you get the Benz you're not in there for 70 years. I was in the iron lung for 70 years. Yeah it's not an iron lung. You're in the Benz you're in like a decompression chamber for 72 hours. He wasn't a diver. He was a person that didn't have lungs that didn't work. But when you do get the Benz they put you in like an iron lung. Didn't he just recently die. Yeah he did. He was the longest person ever in the iron lung. 70 years. I wonder if he had sex. With himself maybe. Was he ever allowed to get out of the thing. How would you clean that out.

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Inside it was just like just there. Well they had little ports. Well I'm sure he shit. How would they take care of that. Yeah he's like a bidet. I was going to say they don't they have tubes. They're not in the iron lung like forever. Not forever. They are in there forever but they can get out of it for a little while. What if he can't breathe. So that's a whole body thing. Yeah. Yeah. So awful. He was in there for 70 years. He's like in a huge water heater. So really how did he go to the bathroom in there.

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That's what I mean. Did they. We need you to look that up Mr. Producer. How does somebody in an iron lung go to the bathroom. That's our first. That's our first Google search. Let's see who's ever Googled that before.

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Well I see I see there's holes on the side where you can reach in with a. And do what. Well you put your hands. Well you got to clean them. Probably sponge baths. Oh OK. You know he may roll over and you swipe his bottom and you know. It rotates.

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I don't really know. I mean I'm speculating. Maybe he got a handy every once in a while. Was his hands are down there. I'm sure he can. I think when you're in the iron lung somebody else should do it for you. Oh that's my thought.

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Yeah. Can't you. He's earned that right. Don't you think. Yeah. So you think the inside of that tube is just like you don't want to take a black light to it. As I said he's just sprayed it. OK. It's like a lot of stalactites.

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But you know what. Apparently this dude had a pretty damn good attitude about the whole thing. I would have been like put me down. I don't want to live my whole life in an iron lung. But he apparently was like had some really positive things to say about his life and how he made a difference.

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And he was an inspiration for somebody. I don't know. Well there it says it says that the front of it actually comes out like slides out. OK. Exposed to the patient's body. He is lifted up by a nurse and.

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Oh it went away. The bedpan is cleaned. I think is what it said. It says he is lifted up by a nurse and the bedpan is slid under him. The iron lung is enclosed where it resumes breathing procedure is repeated to remove the pan.

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So basically he has to say I have to poop. Right. They put the pan they open them up put the pan close them up and when he's done they open it back up. Well what did his day consist of.

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I mean maybe he watched a lot of Johnny Carson. I think you just watch TV all the time. I think he was able to maybe read a book. You know how like people in the in the chairs they're like quadriplegics.

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They can they can like double click with their eyes and shit and then they can do computer stuff. Well he could use his hands could they could they put the keyboard and the mouse in there. I didn't see any arms sticking out of there. I just saw his head.

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Well now that'd be all inside. Oh I don't know. I don't know. I mean could he even move. Holy shit look at that picture there. There's a girl coming out of the tube. No no no. Go back or right there to the right.

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A little bit more to the right. Right there. Right there. No to the right. Left. That right there. Why is there a person. Oh it's a mirror. Oh it's a mirror. Oh. She. He's got a little buddy inside there with them.

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Oh that's awful. So he was the last person in an iron lung.

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So why couldn't they transition him to something that's better technology. Maybe his body was just so decayed away. They're like we can't. Why. Yeah. Well I think they could have pulled off a Darth Vader you know.

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You've been you've been in here let's say 50 years. Your body would be wasted to nothing. I would just think that there's something. Well maybe he didn't want to. I don't know. Who knows. Well he was there as a kid. That's all he's known.

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His plan didn't cover. He's a kid. That's all he is known. So it's like this is what this is what it is. Crazy. He accepted it. Anyway going back to our story we need to put you in one of those things and then you'll be fine.

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Iron lung. Yes.

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You took me to the trailer. Now I'm like behind my point is we would want you to go. So we basically woke up on Tuesday morning where and you're just like I'm out of here. Yeah I've got a flight. Here we go. We're going and I was going.

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We're going now. We're not going later. We're going now. Let's get this out of the way. It was an evac moment. Yeah. So let's let's get you to safety and frankly after you got down to Colorado Springs already started to feel better.

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I mean we went to Denver. Yeah. Denver. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I felt I felt 90 percent better. I still had a headache 90 percent better by the time we got to the airport. You were out of the danger zone like feeling like you were going to die. Oh I did.

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Man it was it was so bad. So bad. I've had it before. My dad's but not to that degree. Yeah. Not to that degree. But the sad thing about the whole thing. You get on a plane. You fly home and then Sean and I you know we ate or whatever went back to the cabin and you're sending us all these

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humo pictures. Oh no we weren't. We were fagging out. Yes you know. Look. Yes we were. We were singing. Air supply. We have to face the music here. The Carpenters with a big penis. There was. Wait a second. There's nothing wrong with that part. That part was fine. We were singing Karen Carpenter. With a big penis. And she is an amazing drummer. I think our listeners out there need a little bit more context because they're getting they're they're just they're getting distracted because you keep using the word penis. Yeah.

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No we were watching. OK so we we we got into we had been drinking and keep in mind we did it you know when you're drinking at 10,000 feet. Yeah but I was drinking. You start to act weird. Hot tea which was the best drink ever. The best drink ever man. You and your bourbon and hot tea. This one has lemon. Yes. Yes. And every five minutes I think I found the perfect drink. And I was just like that sounds gross to me. It did. It sounded awful. He was like try it. I was like shut up Zul. I'm good.

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Anyway so we we just you know we started making a joke out of it. We started playing who the like the the gayest videos we can watch. You found them. Karen. And it was music right. We were looking for music videos. The premise wasn't trying to find the gate or was it. Well we were trying to top each other with like Baron Manilow and Karen Carpenter and you know we tried to find like what we would like.

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Get dogged for Olivia Newton John. Yes yes Olivia Newton John. Anyway we stumbled on a Karen Carpenter. But how did it start. We were watching the Barry Gibb movie. That's how it started. We started watching the women's basketball. Yeah we started watching the Iowa.

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Nothing wrong with that. That was Caitlin Clark. Yeah that was she's so awesome. She is amazing. And I'll talk about more about that later because there's so much we can talk about. A lot of pushback. Well we can talk about some of that now and then come back.

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Well we're talking about Karen Carpenter. Let's get through the Colorado trip. Yeah but we didn't hit Karen Carpenter until after the basketball. That's true. All right. So we were we were channeling some feminine energy I guess by watching the the women's basketball. Let's still let's talk about that because that's a big deal. You had your tampons in. But hey look at this point we were all still there together. So I just want to say look look Caitlin Clark has brought a spark into the into the women's college basketball and the WNBA. That's like I'm going to go out and say that.

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This is she's incredible. She has put it on the map for men that has not happened before. Well I wonder how she's going to do the WNBA. I think she's going to excel. I think she will too. But look here's the other thing. Well first of all she's got like she's got tons of followers now. There are the little kids that are following her. She's become a mentor and the people look up to her. But like you had mentioned earlier in the green room Jeff you said that the the the viewership of the women's college basketball was more or

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less succeeded the men's. Yes the women's championship game viewership dwarfed the men's the men's championship. She did a blues and two to South Carolina. South Carolina looks strong. They look good. They look really good. Yeah. And yeah it was a great game. So did she lose final. Yeah she did. OK. And then she got drafted number one to the WNBA. Indiana paid. I don't think it makes seventy five thousand dollars a year. What the fuck they called. Yeah it was three hundred Indiana Fever. So she got she got paid three hundred and thirty eight thousand dollars.

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She got paid three hundred and thirty five thousand over four years which ended up being like like you said seventy seventy five or something like that. So everybody was like that's outrageous. The number one pick of the men's draft makes fifty five million a year and she's only making. I mean come on guys. It's a business. They're losing money. The NBA subsidizes it. Yeah. Only reason why it's a float. But this could be the catalyst. It could. And look she's getting also all kinds of things. She's getting huge endorsements. She'll be fine. So it's not like she's not making money. She wore a fifteen thousand dollar Prada.

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Outfit. Yeah. To the whatever they call it the draft draft. Yeah. It was crazy. Let me tell you something really crazy. So all the people that were playing the Indiana Fever right. When they're hosting the Indiana Fever they're moving their games to a bigger venue.

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That's good. That's just grasp that because Caitlin Clark is going to be playing for the Indiana Fever when they play whatever their team is they're moving it from like a thirteen thousand stadium to an eighteen thousand stadium because they know it can be sold out. I think all these ladies on the road on the road not at home. They're going to be gunning for her though. They are. They are. And I'm worried. I'm worried that not worried. That's not the right word. I would be interested to see if the interest wanes.

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I think it will. And then everybody's going to go back to you know she has she's in the WNBA. I think it will. She's not scoring 30 points again. I don't think she's going to dominate in the pros like she did in college. Well we don't we don't know. We don't know. We don't know. Most like most usually that doesn't happen. But this is something that has never happened. But I think a single woman I think she's going to have a following and a big time. Well she will. But I think I think the attention span of the sports fan will go away pretty quick. I think the first

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few games several maybe a couple of months. I'm interested in seeing the first couple Indiana Fever games. I'm not going to lie. I was actually hooked on to this thing before the playoffs the postseason tournament started. Because I had heard no because I had heard it started dominating the news where she was she was taking 25 footers 28 footers 30 footers. Nobody does that. I mean shit. There's only a couple of guys in the NBA that will shoot from that distance. And and I was like OK is this for real. And then I started watching some of her games and I was like holy shit.

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She is launching them from the frickin logo. So anyway I got I was I was hooked and then I you know and then I was telling you guys you need to see her. Remember. Yes. All right. And we watched her and that's why we watched her in Colorado watched her. It was entertaining because the I think it was you Paul that said it because there's lots of errors lots of ladies on the floor lots of sloppy basketball. But what I think is important is I think the basketball fundamentals.

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Yes it's better team basketball are there whereas the guys are all about flashy slam jones. All you dogs want you know isolation one on two one on three. And they don't do that in the in the ladies. Now they play team basketball. It's quite a bit more than the men's.

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Again I think it's sloppier. It is your athleticism is not where the men are. I mean come on. We know. Right. Right. So I mean until transgender guys get into the W.M.B.A. South Carolina coach says welcome. It's going to be a nightmare. They can't do it. They can't do it.

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Has the NCAA come out and supported that day or have they reversed. I know they did for the swimming for a little bit but I thought they reversed. I think they're kind of staying low. I know the I know the N.A.I.A. has come out says no no.

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You're not competing. I think the NCAA kind of got themselves into a pickle right. A rock and a hard place. Right. They can't. They know it wouldn't be a good idea but they can't say no because then then they're going to get the mob on them.

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Fuck the mob. I know. I agree. But like fuck it. People are terrified. So I get it. Anyway so that was a fascinating thing. So we watched that. And again that led into the Kieran Carpenter. Yeah. Well what's next. So Jeff was kind of like he's kind of like guys guys.

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Stop it guys. I was I was with Julie and we were watching this show and it was so it made me so we end up watching the Barry Gibb documentary. Those Bee Gees. The Bee Gees documentary which was fascinating. It really was. Yes it was fascinating because you know you see these guys and you hear their songs but you don't really hear the backstory of all the I mean these guys are siblings. You know and it's just this is a real life thing. And granted what a great story. I think I'm fantastic.

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I did not know so much about the history. First I didn't know they were Australian because everybody thought they were British. They are British. They lived in Australia when they first started. Right. Right. Right. Well let me put this right. I didn't know they had any Australian upbringing. Correct. Right. Right. And then the fact that they went soprano way late in their careers. A falsetto falsetto. Yeah. Right. Thank you. Thank you. Well that didn't happen until the late 70s. The disco disco season. Yeah. Or that producer said we need a

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falsetto. Who can do it. Then Barry's like I think I can do it. He went out there and did it was and everyone was like holy shit. It it would it rocketed them to even further start them. Yeah. Because they were already they were already popular. Well they went up and down and up and down and up and down. Right. A couple of times through their career. I remember from like the 60s. They got huge completely different sound. Yeah. When they first started through the 70s they had a different sound.

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And then they went away. Then they came back with the whole disco thing and they were huge for several years. And then the whole death of disco. Yes. That whole fucking thing. I had never heard with that with that psycho. That's a DJ. Yeah. DJ did a like kill your disco or whatever in the end up after a baseball game.

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It was after a white Chicago White Sox. I think. Yeah. Yeah. How bizarre. Yeah. It reminded me of when what the Dixie Chicks remember when they dogged George Bush and everybody. Everybody brought their discs to something in a bulldozer ran over him or something crazy like that. It was kind of like that. They did that. And it literally killed disco. Yeah it did. And it was I guess it was not just that it was disco got oversaturated. Yes. There everything was disco. It was grinding metal. And if you

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remember the guy who has a studio 54 or whatever it was one of the big clubs in New York said that commercialization capitalism ruined disco because everybody wanted everybody. They showed disco duck and they showed these stupid seriously. That was really. Right. So they said once once it got to that point it got oversaturated.

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That killed it. And then this thing was kind of cherry on top. This whole death to disco blowing up the records thing was the final nail in the coffin. And then the Bee Gees were shunned. They were. They they made a comeback when they started writing music for other people. And they had an album with Barbara.

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Barbara Streisand came out and contacted Barry Gibb and because she loved him and kind of we pulled him out of the tailspin it did a reboot of what they got. She was like hey look you know I want you to write the songs for her album and sing it all night long.

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Guilty. Guilty. And it worked out. I've actually never heard that music. That's good music. Oh yeah. I need to know. I know you're not a Babs fan but that's good music. Yeah. Because it's BG music anyway.

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So it comes to a close right. And they've had lots of tragedy. What kind of food has it a pie. Wow. Even me pain and sorrow.

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So anyway they've had lots of tragedy right. And then the brothers started dropping dead one at a time. Yeah. And then you know Shelley we got we finished watching it. Shelly tells me hey what are you guys doing guys having fun. I go yeah we're all getting weepy watching the end of this.

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We were all getting weepy man. It's hard not to. When you hear what he says at the end. One of the very last things Barry says is that he give it all up to spend more time with us. Just to have his brothers back. He goes we had all the number ones and all the success. He goes I'd give that all up to just to have them back. Right.

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And everyone's bottom lip started quivering. Yeah I know. I was like. I was like can you put on Star Wars or something. It was bad. I was seriously I was getting weepy and Shelley was like really really. Anyway it was great. And then that think that led into what. I don't know what happened. That may have been it for me that night. Well yeah because you left.

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Before we jump into the Karen Carpenter thing because we went to bed that. We need to explain the penis comment. Oh yeah. So but we need we need we need to talk about our our our drink tonight because I'm working on my 10th class here. Yeah I mean it's like drinking iced tea.

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It is. It's like flavored water compared to our last drink. Well let's see. You want me to. All right. You have it. Pulled up Mr. Producer. This is redemption redemption bourbon redemption bourbon. The thing about redemption first of all it's super sweet. This is a pre pre prohibition. Brown sugar maple. I mean it's super. It's so yes. It's a vanilla. It's 88 proof. It is so easy to drink. I could seriously.

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It's like your eighth. Yeah I mean you could literally take this put it in a freezer in and when it comes out you can like it be ice cream. It's 75 percent corn 21 percent right. And say it again. How much corn 75 which is already going to make it sweet. Yeah it's a really high corn.

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And then it's 21 percent rye and 4 percent barley and it's aged. It doesn't say how long it's it's probably four years. It's thick. It's viscous. It is. It tastes good. It's just it goes away really fast. Yeah it didn't last. It's it is because it's watered down. It is really tasty though. Yeah. Hey look I'll be honest. I'm always honest. This.

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Sits well with me. The problem with even though it's 88. Well that's that's the problem. So the problem with me being 88 proof is that I can literally drink it. But you just like drink the whole bottle. Yeah I could easily fourth class so it's going to hit you. Yeah that's the other problem. It's going to show that even at 88 proof if you drink for it it's still going to hit you. You know it's just going to hit you differently. So for our listeners there's not going to be a second podcast. Well there might be. It's just going to be Jeff and I.

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Now the redemption stuff is good. It's good. Yeah it's just compared to what we had in the green room. Yeah. So we had we had a hawker. Yeah that would Jeff fuel. We had a hawker. So a hawker is made out of Palestine Texas. Right. And they typically you take it. It's very fruity. It's got some orange in there.

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It's not the one we had because you guys couldn't taste that. But based on the 90 proof version that they have the 100 proof version you could taste a lot of those notes. Actually you could taste all that in the fourth. The hundred forty four proof that we drank tonight. Oh my god. So tasty. For me it was super tasty. It was very rich. But it was like taking a blow torch and and firing it into your mouth. I didn't get that. No it's very flavorful. It wasn't as hot as that but there was some spice to it.

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It wasn't a lot of alcohol burn. Yeah there wasn't. You tell you what if it was a blind taste testing for you and they were to say I would not have said that's one hundred forty four. I got you. I was there's no way because we've had some hundred tens of like man it's hot. Yeah that's right. So four hundred forty four. It was good.

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It's very rich. I give this I give this redemption a seven seven. Really high for you. It is. I think we've may get him back on the 90 proofers. No no maybe the problem again. I'm going to tell you the problem for me with this is I can drink it. You don't want to be able to drink it. I he doesn't want to drink it like tea. Yeah I mean it's so easy to drink. It's like drinking a pop. Well it's like the old days we were like I'm going to make a drink. That's what it was like. It was like. I mean in the 90 proof version.

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and it's the whole cup of it.

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Go, go, go, go, go, go!

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I only had one drink tonight.

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Oh, man.

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I don't know what happened.

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I had two drinks.

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Yeah, but it was a 44-ounce.

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You put a whole bottle in there.

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I'm actually not going to go above a 7 on.

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I'm going to say 6.8 on this one.

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I think I'm right with Paul.

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It's very tasty, the proof.

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It just disappears way too fast for me.

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But it has a really good flavor.

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I'll go 7.

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Just because it has a really good flavor,

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it's gone in like two seconds, though.

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Right.

242
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Yeah.

243
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But, well, I mean, I don't know.

244
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I'm counting.

245
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What's the price point?

246
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I'm on 10 seconds.

247
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Probably 35, 40 bucks.

248
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I'm on 15 seconds.

249
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There's nothing wrong with that.

250
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40, 50 bucks.

251
00:44:22,060 --> 00:44:23,860
Yeah, that's nothing wrong with that price point.

252
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I'd recommend that.

253
00:44:24,620 --> 00:44:26,100
So look, for those folks out there

254
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that are just starting bourbons, look, this is a starter.

255
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I mean, look, this could be a finisher.

256
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If you're a beginner drinker.

257
00:44:32,540 --> 00:44:34,700
No, look, there's a lot of people out there that say, hey.

258
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This is what we were drinking.

259
00:44:35,580 --> 00:44:36,700
What would you recommend?

260
00:44:36,700 --> 00:44:38,020
What would you recommend?

261
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And typically, you know.

262
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Tawahawka 144.

263
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No, we would not.

264
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We would say something like.

265
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Do you want to start and end right away?

266
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We would start with nine banded, something weeded.

267
00:44:47,940 --> 00:44:49,780
Essentially, what would say something weeded?

268
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A weeded bourbon.

269
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Black powder.

270
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Was that weeded?

271
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I don't know.

272
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I don't recall if that was black powder or something.

273
00:44:55,580 --> 00:44:57,900
But my point is that we would start with something weeded,

274
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slowly transition into something we're not.

275
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And you're talking about sippers, not mixers, right?

276
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Well, the weeded.

277
00:45:02,500 --> 00:45:03,940
Well, true, true, true, true.

278
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But the weeded you could drink.

279
00:45:05,220 --> 00:45:07,180
This would probably be good in an old fashioned.

280
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Oh, yeah, it'd be great.

281
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Yeah.

282
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But I learned.

283
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Whatever.

284
00:45:10,940 --> 00:45:12,140
We'll talk more about this later.

285
00:45:12,140 --> 00:45:13,420
I just came back from Kentucky.

286
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I learned so much.

287
00:45:14,580 --> 00:45:17,540
And one of them is I'm changing my attitude.

288
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I'm changing my attitude about what I was

289
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calling sipper mixers before.

290
00:45:22,860 --> 00:45:25,020
Because they're not.

291
00:45:25,020 --> 00:45:28,700
But most of the world, those are sippers.

292
00:45:28,700 --> 00:45:31,140
What I call mixers, they are sipping.

293
00:45:31,140 --> 00:45:33,420
And I'm like, damn, maybe I've been,

294
00:45:33,420 --> 00:45:35,340
you know, that's something you mix with Coke.

295
00:45:35,340 --> 00:45:36,140
Oh my god, yeah.

296
00:45:36,140 --> 00:45:36,640
Eww.

297
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Eww.

298
00:45:37,140 --> 00:45:37,640
Eww.

299
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Eww.

300
00:45:38,140 --> 00:45:39,380
Eww.

301
00:45:39,380 --> 00:45:41,060
Jesus.

302
00:45:41,060 --> 00:45:42,420
Anyway.

303
00:45:42,420 --> 00:45:43,620
For us, it's true.

304
00:45:43,620 --> 00:45:44,540
And I don't care.

305
00:45:44,540 --> 00:45:45,780
I don't care what they say.

306
00:45:45,780 --> 00:45:46,700
I don't care.

307
00:45:46,700 --> 00:45:50,340
Because I really love the hell out of that.

308
00:45:50,340 --> 00:45:53,140
Like the Rumble 140, 144, whatever it is.

309
00:45:53,140 --> 00:45:54,700
Oh my god, it is fantastic.

310
00:45:54,700 --> 00:45:55,200
Yeah.

311
00:45:55,200 --> 00:45:56,060
They don't make it anymore.

312
00:45:56,060 --> 00:45:56,560
They don't.

313
00:45:56,560 --> 00:45:59,340
And I've only got 5 1⁄8 of a bottle left.

314
00:45:59,340 --> 00:46:00,580
And I'm done.

315
00:46:00,580 --> 00:46:02,860
And I don't know where else to get a 40.

316
00:46:02,860 --> 00:46:04,860
That's 7 16s?

317
00:46:04,860 --> 00:46:05,940
Or a bottle?

318
00:46:05,940 --> 00:46:07,940
It's a little over half a bottle.

319
00:46:07,940 --> 00:46:08,580
Yeah.

320
00:46:08,580 --> 00:46:09,620
Close to 5 1⁄8.

321
00:46:09,620 --> 00:46:11,140
So this is MGP.

322
00:46:11,140 --> 00:46:15,700
And it's aged no less than two years.

323
00:46:15,700 --> 00:46:18,300
So it's about two years old.

324
00:46:18,300 --> 00:46:18,800
OK.

325
00:46:18,800 --> 00:46:19,340
And it's MGP.

326
00:46:19,340 --> 00:46:23,580
And so this is part of what I learned.

327
00:46:23,580 --> 00:46:29,300
See how it says straight bourbon whiskey?

328
00:46:29,300 --> 00:46:32,060
To be called a straight whiskey, it

329
00:46:32,060 --> 00:46:35,140
has to be aged at least two years.

330
00:46:35,140 --> 00:46:37,980
To be called a Kentucky straight whiskey,

331
00:46:37,980 --> 00:46:42,140
it has to be distilled in Kentucky for at least a year.

332
00:46:42,140 --> 00:46:45,460
But if it's straight, it's going to be two years.

333
00:46:45,460 --> 00:46:47,500
I mean, aged for a year.

334
00:46:47,500 --> 00:46:50,500
And obviously, you guys know the rules about bourbon.

335
00:46:50,500 --> 00:46:53,500
So anyway, I learned a lot, a little more.

336
00:46:53,500 --> 00:46:54,000
Hold on.

337
00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:55,580
We know the rules about bourbon.

338
00:46:55,580 --> 00:46:57,900
But some of those dudes, I guess,

339
00:46:57,900 --> 00:46:59,140
just need to be reminded.

340
00:46:59,140 --> 00:46:59,820
Not that they don't know.

341
00:46:59,820 --> 00:47:01,580
But sometimes they need to be reminded.

342
00:47:01,580 --> 00:47:02,420
Right.

343
00:47:02,420 --> 00:47:05,100
So it's actually three sets of rules.

344
00:47:05,100 --> 00:47:08,020
When it's a Kentucky straight bourbon,

345
00:47:08,020 --> 00:47:11,860
there's three sets of rules that it has to apply to it.

346
00:47:11,860 --> 00:47:12,540
Right?

347
00:47:12,540 --> 00:47:18,300
First, to be a bourbon, we already know 51% corn.

348
00:47:18,300 --> 00:47:21,220
It has to be distilled in the United States, not Kentucky.

349
00:47:21,220 --> 00:47:23,180
In the United States, anywhere in the United States,

350
00:47:23,180 --> 00:47:24,660
it can be a bourbon.

351
00:47:24,660 --> 00:47:26,820
And it has to be in a New York barrel.

352
00:47:26,820 --> 00:47:27,980
Like, we know all that.

353
00:47:27,980 --> 00:47:32,060
It has to go into the barrel, no more than 125 proof.

354
00:47:32,060 --> 00:47:35,900
It cannot come into the bottle at any less than 80 proof.

355
00:47:35,900 --> 00:47:36,420
Right?

356
00:47:36,420 --> 00:47:38,060
Those are all the rules to be a bourbon.

357
00:47:38,060 --> 00:47:42,060
So straight, because you can have a straight whiskey,

358
00:47:42,060 --> 00:47:44,220
a Kentucky straight whiskey, that's not a bourbon.

359
00:47:44,220 --> 00:47:45,260
Right?

360
00:47:45,260 --> 00:47:50,060
To be a straight whiskey, it has to be aged at least two years.

361
00:47:50,060 --> 00:47:52,620
And then to be a Kentucky straight whiskey,

362
00:47:52,620 --> 00:47:58,020
it has to be aged in a barrel for at least a year in Kentucky.

363
00:47:58,020 --> 00:48:00,660
So that's why it's three sets of rules

364
00:48:00,660 --> 00:48:02,820
to be a Kentucky straight bourbon.

365
00:48:02,820 --> 00:48:06,380
But bourbon takes care of most of those rules.

366
00:48:06,380 --> 00:48:07,420
Does that make sense?

367
00:48:07,420 --> 00:48:10,900
Is a Kentucky bourbon necessarily better?

368
00:48:10,900 --> 00:48:12,420
No, I think it's, you know.

369
00:48:12,420 --> 00:48:13,900
I know bourbon started in Kentucky.

370
00:48:13,900 --> 00:48:14,540
Yes.

371
00:48:14,540 --> 00:48:15,740
I think that's why, right?

372
00:48:15,740 --> 00:48:19,220
Just like, you know, we're big on Texas barbecue,

373
00:48:19,220 --> 00:48:20,380
the Kentucky bourbon.

374
00:48:20,380 --> 00:48:21,340
I understand and everything.

375
00:48:21,340 --> 00:48:23,180
But does it necessarily make it better?

376
00:48:23,180 --> 00:48:24,140
Oh, no, absolutely not.

377
00:48:24,140 --> 00:48:24,820
Absolutely not.

378
00:48:24,820 --> 00:48:27,220
It's just, it is, I think, a climate

379
00:48:27,220 --> 00:48:29,060
that lends itself very well.

380
00:48:29,060 --> 00:48:30,340
It does, and the water.

381
00:48:30,340 --> 00:48:31,660
Yes, and the limestone water.

382
00:48:31,660 --> 00:48:32,620
That's correct.

383
00:48:32,620 --> 00:48:32,940
Correct.

384
00:48:32,940 --> 00:48:33,740
The limestone water.

385
00:48:33,740 --> 00:48:36,700
Because distilleries here, at least 1845,

386
00:48:36,700 --> 00:48:38,540
is using reverse osmosis water, which

387
00:48:38,540 --> 00:48:39,940
is nothing wrong with that.

388
00:48:39,940 --> 00:48:40,460
Right?

389
00:48:40,460 --> 00:48:42,740
So limestone, the thing about limestone water

390
00:48:42,740 --> 00:48:47,580
is it naturally filters out iron and brings calcium

391
00:48:47,580 --> 00:48:50,660
and magnesium naturally to the flavor.

392
00:48:50,660 --> 00:48:51,140
Right?

393
00:48:51,140 --> 00:48:53,500
What about turmeric?

394
00:48:53,500 --> 00:48:54,620
Turmeric?

395
00:48:54,620 --> 00:48:56,060
Who's that?

396
00:48:56,060 --> 00:48:57,900
Yeah, who is that?

397
00:48:57,900 --> 00:49:02,620
Well, King Turmeric was back in the 1400s.

398
00:49:02,620 --> 00:49:03,540
He's leaving.

399
00:49:06,420 --> 00:49:08,900
Jackasses.

400
00:49:08,900 --> 00:49:11,100
Turmeric is not part of this.

401
00:49:11,100 --> 00:49:13,620
Anyway, anyway, so anyway, it's interesting,

402
00:49:13,620 --> 00:49:16,140
because Tennessee's the same way.

403
00:49:16,140 --> 00:49:20,300
Jack Daniels built his distillery on a limestone,

404
00:49:20,300 --> 00:49:21,140
a limestone deal.

405
00:49:21,140 --> 00:49:23,140
They refuse to call it bourbon.

406
00:49:23,140 --> 00:49:23,660
They do.

407
00:49:23,660 --> 00:49:25,540
Even though it qualifies as a bourbon,

408
00:49:25,540 --> 00:49:26,660
they're like, where's the whiskey?

409
00:49:26,660 --> 00:49:29,180
Yeah, Kentucky can call it whatever they want.

410
00:49:29,180 --> 00:49:30,580
We're Tennessee whiskey.

411
00:49:30,580 --> 00:49:34,140
And they call it, there's no E, or there is the E.

412
00:49:34,140 --> 00:49:35,500
Which is it?

413
00:49:35,500 --> 00:49:36,540
Let's see.

414
00:49:36,540 --> 00:49:38,780
Kentucky has the E in whiskey.

415
00:49:38,780 --> 00:49:41,460
Tennessee does not have the E. Did you know that?

416
00:49:41,460 --> 00:49:42,140
I did not know that.

417
00:49:42,140 --> 00:49:43,340
I knew there was two different spellings,

418
00:49:43,340 --> 00:49:44,420
but I didn't know that.

419
00:49:44,420 --> 00:49:46,820
So Tennessee has no E in the word whiskey.

420
00:49:46,820 --> 00:49:47,620
Hold on, hold on.

421
00:49:47,620 --> 00:49:49,220
Stop, stop, stop, stop.

422
00:49:49,220 --> 00:49:51,620
What?

423
00:49:51,620 --> 00:49:53,420
So what were those two spellings you think?

424
00:49:53,420 --> 00:49:54,460
Two spellings.

425
00:49:54,460 --> 00:49:55,020
So how?

426
00:49:55,020 --> 00:49:56,100
Whiskey with an E.

427
00:49:56,100 --> 00:49:56,900
Yeah, I know.

428
00:49:56,900 --> 00:49:57,900
I want to hear him.

429
00:49:57,900 --> 00:50:00,460
What was the first version, and what's the second version?

430
00:50:00,460 --> 00:50:01,820
Whiskey with an E.

431
00:50:01,820 --> 00:50:02,300
Yes.

432
00:50:02,300 --> 00:50:03,820
Oh, so you don't know which one was which?

433
00:50:03,820 --> 00:50:05,140
Well, I didn't know that there was a difference

434
00:50:05,140 --> 00:50:06,700
between Kentucky and Tennessee.

435
00:50:06,700 --> 00:50:09,580
I knew there were two different spellings of it.

436
00:50:09,580 --> 00:50:12,100
I didn't realize one was specific to Tennessee,

437
00:50:12,100 --> 00:50:13,260
one was specific to Kentucky.

438
00:50:13,260 --> 00:50:14,700
But did they tell you why?

439
00:50:14,700 --> 00:50:19,060
I think, from what I have, well, there's the story, right?

440
00:50:19,060 --> 00:50:20,260
Oh, no, that's country whiskey.

441
00:50:20,260 --> 00:50:22,460
Why is there an E in whiskey, and why

442
00:50:22,460 --> 00:50:23,900
is there not an E in whiskey?

443
00:50:23,900 --> 00:50:24,420
Right.

444
00:50:24,420 --> 00:50:27,660
And I think it's to E or not to E?

445
00:50:27,660 --> 00:50:28,380
Right.

446
00:50:28,380 --> 00:50:30,740
I think Tennessee wanted to differentiate.

447
00:50:30,740 --> 00:50:33,740
Oh, I mean, Tennessee and Kentucky have this thing.

448
00:50:33,740 --> 00:50:35,580
Oh, so Tennessee having so many E's,

449
00:50:35,580 --> 00:50:37,020
they probably wanted the extra E.

450
00:50:37,020 --> 00:50:38,100
They're like, oh, just throw an E in there.

451
00:50:38,100 --> 00:50:39,100
I think it's the opposite.

452
00:50:39,100 --> 00:50:41,060
Tennessee does not have an E.

453
00:50:41,060 --> 00:50:41,980
We're sick of the E's.

454
00:50:41,980 --> 00:50:42,900
We don't want E's.

455
00:50:42,900 --> 00:50:45,420
No, it said Tennessee whiskey had the E.

456
00:50:45,420 --> 00:50:46,740
Is that what it says?

457
00:50:46,740 --> 00:50:47,940
Well, that's what it is.

458
00:50:47,940 --> 00:50:49,260
There are two variants of how.

459
00:50:49,260 --> 00:50:50,820
Babylonians and Mesopotamia.

460
00:50:50,820 --> 00:50:51,780
Wow.

461
00:50:51,780 --> 00:50:53,500
Should we have theme music going on there?

462
00:50:53,500 --> 00:50:55,540
Is that King Tumeric?

463
00:50:55,540 --> 00:50:57,660
Bom, bom, bom, bom, bom.

464
00:50:57,660 --> 00:51:00,180
There's Gaelic word, weigig, breatha.

465
00:51:00,180 --> 00:51:03,540
There are two variants of how we, in the modern world,

466
00:51:03,540 --> 00:51:04,900
spell whiskey.

467
00:51:04,900 --> 00:51:06,420
One with an E and one without.

468
00:51:06,420 --> 00:51:09,860
But what we can learn from this E,

469
00:51:09,860 --> 00:51:13,300
if I were to pick up a bottle labeled only whiskey with an E,

470
00:51:13,300 --> 00:51:15,540
what would be the appearance of that subtitle?

471
00:51:15,540 --> 00:51:16,580
E, tell me.

472
00:51:16,580 --> 00:51:18,460
To begin with, it tells me that the particular whiskey

473
00:51:18,460 --> 00:51:22,740
has originated in either America or Ireland.

474
00:51:22,740 --> 00:51:25,140
So Tennessee has nothing to do with it.

475
00:51:25,140 --> 00:51:27,460
Well, it does because of Dickel.

476
00:51:27,460 --> 00:51:28,740
Dickel's in Tennessee.

477
00:51:30,180 --> 00:51:31,260
Well, you said Jack Daniels.

478
00:51:31,260 --> 00:51:33,060
I did, I did.

479
00:51:33,060 --> 00:51:34,460
But I was obviously wrong.

480
00:51:34,460 --> 00:51:35,300
So it says.

481
00:51:35,300 --> 00:51:36,140
What about Chattanooga?

482
00:51:36,140 --> 00:51:37,460
With the exception of American brands,

483
00:51:37,460 --> 00:51:39,340
George Dickel, Makers Market, Old Forth.

484
00:51:39,340 --> 00:51:41,340
I hope we're recording this.

485
00:51:41,340 --> 00:51:42,860
Can you give me the little sound bite?

486
00:51:42,860 --> 00:51:44,420
They have an E.

487
00:51:44,420 --> 00:51:45,260
Interesting.

488
00:51:45,260 --> 00:51:47,100
That's not what they, you know, scroll down.

489
00:51:47,100 --> 00:51:47,940
When you said I was wrong.

490
00:51:47,940 --> 00:51:49,340
Because I think it's more than that.

491
00:51:49,340 --> 00:51:50,460
I want that sound bite.

492
00:51:50,460 --> 00:51:51,700
Well, it also says.

493
00:51:51,700 --> 00:51:52,540
Scroll down a little.

494
00:51:52,540 --> 00:51:53,380
It says the word.

495
00:51:53,380 --> 00:51:55,460
Dude, everything I say on this podcast is wrong.

496
00:51:55,460 --> 00:51:56,300
Are you kidding me?

497
00:51:56,300 --> 00:51:59,460
It says the word whiskey comes from the Gaelic word

498
00:51:59,460 --> 00:52:00,340
ush-key-bah.

499
00:52:00,340 --> 00:52:02,500
Oh, ush-key-bah, yeah, of course.

500
00:52:02,500 --> 00:52:03,660
Of course it is, Jeff.

501
00:52:03,660 --> 00:52:06,020
Ush-key-bah, meaning water of life.

502
00:52:06,020 --> 00:52:08,380
Can you scroll down, Mr. Producer?

503
00:52:08,380 --> 00:52:11,900
Because I know it has blended into something, there we go.

504
00:52:11,900 --> 00:52:13,420
Something about Tennessee.

505
00:52:13,420 --> 00:52:14,460
Ah, blah, blah, blah.

506
00:52:14,460 --> 00:52:16,300
Because they have a bunch of E's in their name.

507
00:52:16,300 --> 00:52:17,540
Oh my God.

508
00:52:17,540 --> 00:52:18,540
Okay, I'm wrong.

509
00:52:18,540 --> 00:52:19,500
Fine, whatever.

510
00:52:19,500 --> 00:52:20,340
I don't have the patience.

511
00:52:20,340 --> 00:52:22,140
Well, you need to go back to wherever who told you that

512
00:52:22,140 --> 00:52:23,100
and said you're wrong.

513
00:52:23,100 --> 00:52:23,940
Okay, well first off,

514
00:52:23,940 --> 00:52:25,340
no one told me that on the Scottish.

515
00:52:25,340 --> 00:52:27,300
This is Spanish.

516
00:52:27,300 --> 00:52:29,980
No one told me that when I did the Bourbon Trail.

517
00:52:29,980 --> 00:52:30,820
This past weekend.

518
00:52:30,820 --> 00:52:31,660
Oh, stop, stop.

519
00:52:31,660 --> 00:52:36,020
Oh, it's the Bourbon Trail.

520
00:52:36,020 --> 00:52:39,100
You know, when you've gone through the Bourbon Trail, guys.

521
00:52:39,100 --> 00:52:39,940
So many times.

522
00:52:39,940 --> 00:52:42,700
I mean, well, I mean, first off, it's a life change.

523
00:52:42,700 --> 00:52:47,700
We ended up watching the Bee Gees movie and then we got.

524
00:52:47,700 --> 00:52:48,540
We all wept together.

525
00:52:48,540 --> 00:52:49,380
We wept.

526
00:52:49,380 --> 00:52:50,220
We held each other.

527
00:52:50,220 --> 00:52:51,060
We got triggered.

528
00:52:51,060 --> 00:52:54,940
Then we ended up taking you to the airport the next day.

529
00:52:54,940 --> 00:52:56,540
First thing, we're like, oh, you gotta go.

530
00:52:56,540 --> 00:52:59,220
Then when we got back, Paul and I started drinking

531
00:52:59,220 --> 00:53:00,860
and we're like, hey, well, you wanna drink?

532
00:53:00,860 --> 00:53:03,940
I think it's time we drank, cause, you know, Jeff's gone.

533
00:53:03,940 --> 00:53:04,780
You know what it was?

534
00:53:04,780 --> 00:53:05,660
We were playing the music game.

535
00:53:05,660 --> 00:53:08,100
You know how we, you got the next song.

536
00:53:08,100 --> 00:53:09,620
Okay, it's gotta be something like the last song.

537
00:53:09,620 --> 00:53:10,620
You get the next song.

538
00:53:10,620 --> 00:53:13,260
Well, and we said we're going to do it with videos only.

539
00:53:13,260 --> 00:53:14,100
Yes.

540
00:53:14,100 --> 00:53:14,940
And that started up being pretty cool.

541
00:53:14,940 --> 00:53:16,060
We started off with 80s music,

542
00:53:16,060 --> 00:53:16,900
cause we're kinda like, all right,

543
00:53:16,900 --> 00:53:18,020
let's pick some 80s bands.

544
00:53:18,020 --> 00:53:20,180
And it has to be a video off of YouTube.

545
00:53:20,180 --> 00:53:21,180
And live.

546
00:53:21,180 --> 00:53:23,060
Live version, which actually was pretty cool

547
00:53:23,060 --> 00:53:25,860
because we'd seen bands that we've never seen live.

548
00:53:25,860 --> 00:53:27,980
Yeah, and it was cool cause they had their own rendition.

549
00:53:27,980 --> 00:53:29,100
Kind of like, it was kind of like,

550
00:53:29,100 --> 00:53:29,940
we were singing along with it.

551
00:53:29,940 --> 00:53:30,780
Oh, that's kind of nice.

552
00:53:30,780 --> 00:53:31,620
Oh, she's kind of hot.

553
00:53:31,620 --> 00:53:32,440
Remember?

554
00:53:32,440 --> 00:53:33,460
Yes, oh, Hart.

555
00:53:33,460 --> 00:53:36,380
We were talking about Anne Wilson when she was freaking 18.

556
00:53:36,380 --> 00:53:38,660
Yeah, but then we're like, oh, well, look how bad this,

557
00:53:38,660 --> 00:53:40,820
and then I was like, hey, Paul, you know what?

558
00:53:40,820 --> 00:53:42,220
You know, and I gave him a little trivia thing.

559
00:53:42,220 --> 00:53:44,020
I was like, do you happen to know

560
00:53:44,020 --> 00:53:45,660
who the best drummer in the world is?

561
00:53:45,660 --> 00:53:47,900
Who, one of that, did you know Karen Carpenter

562
00:53:47,900 --> 00:53:50,020
was one of the best drummers in the world?

563
00:53:50,020 --> 00:53:51,260
You started this.

564
00:53:51,260 --> 00:53:52,140
Yeah, I did.

565
00:53:52,140 --> 00:53:54,220
And you were kind of like, really?

566
00:53:54,220 --> 00:53:56,020
Well, first of all, drums, come on.

567
00:53:56,020 --> 00:53:57,220
It was like innocent.

568
00:53:57,220 --> 00:53:58,060
It was crazy.

569
00:53:58,060 --> 00:53:58,900
And then we started off,

570
00:53:58,900 --> 00:54:02,140
so we pulled up Karen Carpenter in the drum solos,

571
00:54:02,140 --> 00:54:03,740
and all of a sudden she's tearing it up.

572
00:54:03,740 --> 00:54:06,740
And oh, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da,

573
00:54:06,740 --> 00:54:08,860
da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da,

574
00:54:08,860 --> 00:54:11,420
and I had no idea that they had like a show.

575
00:54:11,420 --> 00:54:12,580
Karen Carpenter drum solo.

576
00:54:12,580 --> 00:54:14,340
They had like their own show.

577
00:54:14,340 --> 00:54:15,180
You know what I mean?

578
00:54:15,180 --> 00:54:16,020
Like a TV show?

579
00:54:16,020 --> 00:54:16,840
Yeah, like a TV show.

580
00:54:16,840 --> 00:54:17,680
Like a Donnie and Marie?

581
00:54:17,680 --> 00:54:18,740
Yes, exactly.

582
00:54:18,740 --> 00:54:19,580
They really did.

583
00:54:19,580 --> 00:54:20,420
And so she was running around

584
00:54:20,420 --> 00:54:21,700
doing all these different instruments

585
00:54:21,700 --> 00:54:23,380
and all these different percussion things

586
00:54:23,380 --> 00:54:25,460
and going nuts and it was awesome.

587
00:54:25,460 --> 00:54:26,580
Was she meaty then?

588
00:54:27,580 --> 00:54:28,820
Uh, no.

589
00:54:28,820 --> 00:54:29,660
Wow.

590
00:54:29,660 --> 00:54:31,020
She was porous.

591
00:54:31,020 --> 00:54:32,780
Are you insinuating, was she anorexic?

592
00:54:32,780 --> 00:54:33,620
Is that what you're gonna?

593
00:54:33,620 --> 00:54:34,460
Was she an up anorexic?

594
00:54:34,460 --> 00:54:35,500
Was she porky?

595
00:54:35,500 --> 00:54:36,340
Is that what you're saying?

596
00:54:36,340 --> 00:54:37,180
Was that bitch fat?

597
00:54:37,180 --> 00:54:38,220
Oh, I didn't say that.

598
00:54:38,220 --> 00:54:39,060
Did she have meat on her bones?

599
00:54:39,060 --> 00:54:40,140
The baby got back.

600
00:54:40,140 --> 00:54:41,540
She looked okay.

601
00:54:41,540 --> 00:54:43,140
Like the way, here it is.

602
00:54:43,140 --> 00:54:43,980
Hold on, hold on.

603
00:54:43,980 --> 00:54:44,800
Back out of that one.

604
00:54:44,800 --> 00:54:45,940
Let's pick out another one.

605
00:54:45,940 --> 00:54:47,940
No, that's a good one because she and her brother,

606
00:54:47,940 --> 00:54:48,900
they were an act.

607
00:54:48,900 --> 00:54:50,860
Yeah, but let's do the solo first.

608
00:54:50,860 --> 00:54:52,660
Go where she's wearing a green shirt.

609
00:54:55,460 --> 00:54:58,180
I wanna get a haircut like him.

610
00:54:58,180 --> 00:54:59,020
You do?

611
00:54:59,980 --> 00:55:00,820
Yeah, I guess that's it.

612
00:55:00,820 --> 00:55:01,660
Yep.

613
00:55:01,660 --> 00:55:03,100
All right, so this is a five minute one.

614
00:55:03,100 --> 00:55:05,020
So we probably, no, no, go back.

615
00:55:05,020 --> 00:55:05,860
Go back.

616
00:55:05,860 --> 00:55:06,700
Let's pick another one, I apologize.

617
00:55:06,700 --> 00:55:10,420
So this is a television special from 1976.

618
00:55:10,420 --> 00:55:11,260
Yeah, there you go.

619
00:55:11,260 --> 00:55:12,100
There you go.

620
00:55:12,100 --> 00:55:14,020
Here we go, so she's being announced.

621
00:55:14,020 --> 00:55:15,140
Is this being recorded?

622
00:55:15,140 --> 00:55:16,860
This is 1968.

623
00:55:16,860 --> 00:55:18,380
Yeah, well, he already checked it.

624
00:55:18,380 --> 00:55:19,700
All right. Hopefully.

625
00:55:19,700 --> 00:55:22,540
This will play rock, roll, and they play jazz,

626
00:55:22,540 --> 00:55:24,140
and they play blues, you name it.

627
00:55:24,140 --> 00:55:26,700
Right now they're gonna play Dancing in the Street.

628
00:55:26,700 --> 00:55:28,500
From California, St. and Long Beach.

629
00:55:28,500 --> 00:55:29,940
They were just getting started.

630
00:55:29,940 --> 00:55:31,220
This is 1968.

631
00:55:31,220 --> 00:55:35,220
People are getting introduced to Karen Carpenter here.

632
00:55:35,220 --> 00:55:40,220
And she's on the drums, which is unheard of in 1968.

633
00:55:41,380 --> 00:55:43,980
Well, when they started out, she was the drummer of the band.

634
00:55:43,980 --> 00:55:47,460
And after she became more and more popular

635
00:55:47,460 --> 00:55:48,420
with her singing voice,

636
00:55:48,420 --> 00:55:51,020
they forced her to quit the drums.

637
00:55:52,180 --> 00:55:53,260
But she loved percussion.

638
00:55:53,260 --> 00:55:55,420
And she was cute, and here she is singing

639
00:55:55,420 --> 00:55:56,860
and playing the drums.

640
00:55:56,860 --> 00:55:57,700
Very impressive.

641
00:55:57,700 --> 00:56:00,180
That takes a certain talent to be able to sing

642
00:56:00,180 --> 00:56:01,260
and play drums.

643
00:56:01,260 --> 00:56:03,140
Bill Collins does it, too.

644
00:56:03,140 --> 00:56:03,980
It's hard to do.

645
00:56:05,180 --> 00:56:09,100
Anyway, when she has, she goes through some solo thing,

646
00:56:09,100 --> 00:56:10,700
which is actually pretty awesome.

647
00:56:12,220 --> 00:56:16,620
So anyway, Shawn totally surprised me with this.

648
00:56:16,620 --> 00:56:18,060
Did you know that she's an amazing drummer?

649
00:56:18,060 --> 00:56:20,980
Well, I mean, because there was a poll put out

650
00:56:20,980 --> 00:56:22,700
through Playboy where...

651
00:56:23,740 --> 00:56:25,660
I wanna know what the real drummers think, though.

652
00:56:25,660 --> 00:56:27,500
I'm not taking away that she's good.

653
00:56:27,500 --> 00:56:28,340
Let me get into this.

654
00:56:28,340 --> 00:56:29,180
It's funny you say that.

655
00:56:29,180 --> 00:56:32,460
So there was a poll put out by Playboy

656
00:56:32,460 --> 00:56:34,540
and who was the best drummer on the planet.

657
00:56:34,540 --> 00:56:35,660
Like the top 10.

658
00:56:35,660 --> 00:56:38,020
Yeah, and John Bonham was...

659
00:56:38,020 --> 00:56:40,860
She was number five, and John Bonham was number six.

660
00:56:40,860 --> 00:56:41,700
And he was butt-hurt.

661
00:56:41,700 --> 00:56:42,820
And he was butt-hurt.

662
00:56:42,820 --> 00:56:43,660
He was kind of like...

663
00:56:43,660 --> 00:56:44,940
That's bullshit.

664
00:56:44,940 --> 00:56:46,260
No woman can out-drum me.

665
00:56:46,260 --> 00:56:48,460
Yeah, but you know, it turns out she...

666
00:56:48,460 --> 00:56:50,260
And Paul and I watched several videos,

667
00:56:50,260 --> 00:56:51,260
and she could tear it up.

668
00:56:51,260 --> 00:56:52,980
She is a true...

669
00:56:54,060 --> 00:56:55,980
The true meaning of a percussionist.

670
00:56:55,980 --> 00:56:59,380
Now, John Bonham is a... That's a different animal,

671
00:56:59,380 --> 00:57:00,220
John Bonham.

672
00:57:00,220 --> 00:57:02,060
It is truly trying to compare apples and oranges.

673
00:57:02,060 --> 00:57:02,900
Yeah, it is.

674
00:57:02,900 --> 00:57:07,060
There's so many different styles of music and drumming

675
00:57:07,060 --> 00:57:08,140
that it's hard to compare.

676
00:57:08,140 --> 00:57:10,980
Like these guys that play for...

677
00:57:12,500 --> 00:57:13,460
Rush.

678
00:57:13,460 --> 00:57:16,020
Like Slipknot, the guys that are just so damn fast

679
00:57:16,020 --> 00:57:16,860
and technical.

680
00:57:16,860 --> 00:57:19,220
Like Metallica, that drummer.

681
00:57:19,220 --> 00:57:20,060
Or like the Polka.

682
00:57:20,060 --> 00:57:21,340
I don't think he's very good.

683
00:57:21,340 --> 00:57:22,180
Polka band.

684
00:57:22,180 --> 00:57:25,900
Well, I'm not saying those aren't bad drummers.

685
00:57:25,900 --> 00:57:28,300
But how do you compare...

686
00:57:28,300 --> 00:57:31,620
But how do you compare what she's doing...

687
00:57:31,620 --> 00:57:33,780
How do you compare what she's doing

688
00:57:33,780 --> 00:57:37,860
to what Neil Peart is doing for Rush?

689
00:57:37,860 --> 00:57:38,700
Not even close.

690
00:57:38,700 --> 00:57:39,540
That's what I mean.

691
00:57:39,540 --> 00:57:40,660
So who's better?

692
00:57:40,660 --> 00:57:41,500
Right.

693
00:57:41,500 --> 00:57:42,320
Technically better.

694
00:57:42,320 --> 00:57:43,260
Who's technically better?

695
00:57:43,260 --> 00:57:44,700
Karen Carpenter.

696
00:57:44,700 --> 00:57:46,620
I don't know, that's to be debated.

697
00:57:46,620 --> 00:57:47,460
I don't know.

698
00:57:47,460 --> 00:57:48,300
She's awesome.

699
00:57:48,300 --> 00:57:49,120
Buddy Rich.

700
00:57:49,120 --> 00:57:52,980
Anyway, so then they transitioned to like,

701
00:57:52,980 --> 00:57:55,420
she was full-time singer with her brother,

702
00:57:55,420 --> 00:57:57,580
and they had a band, and that's when they came out with

703
00:57:57,580 --> 00:57:59,540
On Top of the World Lookin'.

704
00:57:59,540 --> 00:58:02,740
On top of the world lookin'.

705
00:58:02,740 --> 00:58:07,740
Down on creation in the only expectation I can find.

706
00:58:07,740 --> 00:58:11,700
Birds in the Trees, Say Your Name When I Come By.

707
00:58:11,700 --> 00:58:14,460
With a kiss, walk on by.

708
00:58:14,460 --> 00:58:16,100
Da da da da da.

709
00:58:16,100 --> 00:58:16,940
Oh my God.

710
00:58:16,940 --> 00:58:20,500
Mr. Producer, can you pull up some Karen Carpenter songs?

711
00:58:20,500 --> 00:58:24,900
Just like me, they long to be.

712
00:58:24,900 --> 00:58:25,900
Close to you.

713
00:58:29,900 --> 00:58:32,900
Ah ah ah ah ah.

714
00:58:32,900 --> 00:58:33,740
Fag.

715
00:58:33,740 --> 00:58:34,580
All right.

716
00:58:34,580 --> 00:58:35,860
See, here we go.

717
00:58:35,860 --> 00:58:37,260
That's what happened.

718
00:58:37,260 --> 00:58:40,780
You just saw the genesis of what happened at the cabin.

719
00:58:40,780 --> 00:58:41,620
We were singing.

720
00:58:41,620 --> 00:58:43,780
Raining Days and Mondays is probably their best.

721
00:58:43,780 --> 00:58:47,260
We were singing Karen Carpenter drinking what he was drinking.

722
00:58:47,260 --> 00:58:49,620
Well, can't smile for, well, hell,

723
00:58:49,620 --> 00:58:50,940
wasn't that like Barry Manilow today?

724
00:58:50,940 --> 00:58:52,980
That is Barry Manilow.

725
00:58:52,980 --> 00:58:56,900
Can't smile without you.

726
00:58:56,900 --> 00:58:58,940
The Rainbow Connection.

727
00:58:58,940 --> 00:59:00,260
This is close to you.

728
00:59:00,260 --> 00:59:04,220
Skip it to the like, do three minute increments-ish.

729
00:59:04,220 --> 00:59:05,060
You know what's interesting?

730
00:59:05,060 --> 00:59:08,380
My father was absolutely in love with Karen Carpenter.

731
00:59:08,380 --> 00:59:09,220
I know it.

732
00:59:09,220 --> 00:59:10,060
Yeah.

733
00:59:10,060 --> 00:59:12,420
All right, so we hit Karen Carpenter

734
00:59:12,420 --> 00:59:15,020
and we were watching like videos of her.

735
00:59:15,020 --> 00:59:16,940
And we're like, cause that was the whole point we were doing.

736
00:59:16,940 --> 00:59:18,060
Let's do some live videos.

737
00:59:18,060 --> 00:59:20,300
So I always post some live videos of Karen Carpenter.

738
00:59:20,300 --> 00:59:22,140
And we pulled this live video

739
00:59:22,140 --> 00:59:25,180
cause we were following the progression of her career.

740
00:59:25,180 --> 00:59:26,620
Of her talent and her career.

741
00:59:26,620 --> 00:59:29,580
And towards the latter part, prior to her dying,

742
00:59:29,580 --> 00:59:33,420
she had a concert and she was a little meatier.

743
00:59:33,420 --> 00:59:35,220
You can tell she was starting to get things

744
00:59:35,220 --> 00:59:36,900
under control a little bit.

745
00:59:36,900 --> 00:59:38,820
And she looked a little bit older.

746
00:59:38,820 --> 00:59:40,660
And they had created the set.

747
00:59:40,660 --> 00:59:42,060
Yeah, it was like a Roman set.

748
00:59:42,060 --> 00:59:47,060
A Roman themed pillars and naked Roman guys all out there

749
00:59:49,740 --> 00:59:50,980
with their junk hanging out.

750
00:59:50,980 --> 00:59:53,420
The camera's panning around the stage.

751
00:59:53,420 --> 00:59:55,020
Huge like marble.

752
00:59:55,020 --> 00:59:58,220
Yes, it goes by this Roman statue.

753
00:59:58,220 --> 01:00:02,740
This huge uncircumcised junk wagon

754
01:00:02,740 --> 01:00:04,380
just sitting there on this.

755
01:00:04,380 --> 01:00:06,340
It's shining there both like, really?

756
01:00:06,340 --> 01:00:07,180
Yeah.

757
01:00:07,180 --> 01:00:09,220
Why is Jeff not here?

758
01:00:09,220 --> 01:00:10,860
We're like, we've gotta send this to Jeff.

759
01:00:10,860 --> 01:00:11,700
We have to send this.

760
01:00:11,700 --> 01:00:13,620
You know what?

761
01:00:13,620 --> 01:00:14,860
Hold on, stop.

762
01:00:14,860 --> 01:00:16,460
What really happened was,

763
01:00:16,460 --> 01:00:17,820
Paul was looking at that.

764
01:00:17,820 --> 01:00:21,060
He looked at the penis, he's like, oh, I miss Jeff.

765
01:00:21,060 --> 01:00:23,340
That is not what happened.

766
01:00:23,340 --> 01:00:24,780
I think that's exactly what happened.

767
01:00:24,780 --> 01:00:26,940
That is fake news.

768
01:00:26,940 --> 01:00:28,340
Well, the reason I'm saying that-

769
01:00:28,340 --> 01:00:29,180
Let's text Jeff.

770
01:00:29,180 --> 01:00:33,380
The thing is, I got that text like five times from Sean.

771
01:00:34,260 --> 01:00:35,100
Oh my God.

772
01:00:35,100 --> 01:00:35,940
Look at this penis.

773
01:00:35,940 --> 01:00:36,980
Paul was too drunk to do it.

774
01:00:36,980 --> 01:00:39,220
We were so obnoxious.

775
01:00:39,220 --> 01:00:41,580
We were so obnoxious, but we had a ball.

776
01:00:41,580 --> 01:00:42,420
It was a blast.

777
01:00:42,420 --> 01:00:44,700
And then it blended into ABBA.

778
01:00:44,700 --> 01:00:46,660
And then it was Air Supply.

779
01:00:46,660 --> 01:00:48,140
And then it was- Sadly.

780
01:00:48,140 --> 01:00:48,980
It was great.

781
01:00:48,980 --> 01:00:49,820
It was great.

782
01:00:49,820 --> 01:00:51,380
We didn't really do that much of Air Supply,

783
01:00:51,380 --> 01:00:52,900
but we hit a lot of bands.

784
01:00:52,900 --> 01:00:53,740
We did.

785
01:00:53,740 --> 01:00:54,820
And we dug deep.

786
01:00:54,820 --> 01:00:57,540
We were like extreme more than words.

787
01:00:57,540 --> 01:00:59,380
And we were like, I could totally do this.

788
01:00:59,380 --> 01:01:00,500
And I was like, well, yeah.

789
01:01:00,500 --> 01:01:02,700
Then I paused it and screenshot it.

790
01:01:02,700 --> 01:01:04,220
Oh no. Oh my God, you did.

791
01:01:04,220 --> 01:01:05,060
That's a rather-

792
01:01:05,060 --> 01:01:06,780
That's very detailed.

793
01:01:06,780 --> 01:01:07,620
Impressive screenshot.

794
01:01:07,620 --> 01:01:08,460
Are you serious?

795
01:01:08,460 --> 01:01:09,900
Is that street?

796
01:01:09,900 --> 01:01:10,740
I found that.

797
01:01:10,740 --> 01:01:11,580
Oh, okay.

798
01:01:11,580 --> 01:01:13,460
I was like, you jackass.

799
01:01:13,460 --> 01:01:14,980
I was like, you guys are gay.

800
01:01:14,980 --> 01:01:16,220
Look at that. Because it was dark.

801
01:01:16,220 --> 01:01:17,300
It was a dark-

802
01:01:17,300 --> 01:01:19,340
Even got the pubes and everything.

803
01:01:19,340 --> 01:01:20,500
Oh my God.

804
01:01:20,500 --> 01:01:23,420
You think he was in there with a little chisel doing-

805
01:01:23,420 --> 01:01:26,580
Can you imagine the guy back there in the,

806
01:01:27,580 --> 01:01:28,980
whatever century that was,

807
01:01:28,980 --> 01:01:31,100
just with a chisel and a hammer,

808
01:01:31,100 --> 01:01:33,260
trying to like get that penis just right.

809
01:01:33,260 --> 01:01:34,180
Oh my God.

810
01:01:34,180 --> 01:01:35,460
He's not circumcised.

811
01:01:35,460 --> 01:01:36,860
He's not circumcised.

812
01:01:36,860 --> 01:01:38,060
You gotta make a brand new statue.

813
01:01:38,060 --> 01:01:40,220
No, what's crazy is there was a guy standing there

814
01:01:40,220 --> 01:01:42,740
and he's looking at him chiseling while he's doing that.

815
01:01:42,740 --> 01:01:44,820
Well, that was Michelangelo's David.

816
01:01:44,820 --> 01:01:46,340
So-

817
01:01:46,340 --> 01:01:47,820
Michelangelo.

818
01:01:47,820 --> 01:01:49,060
What a joke.

819
01:01:49,060 --> 01:01:51,420
All he did was make pictures of men-

820
01:01:51,420 --> 01:01:52,900
That painted the Sistine Chapel.

821
01:01:52,900 --> 01:01:53,780
Oh, that too, yeah.

822
01:01:53,780 --> 01:01:54,620
I guess so.

823
01:01:54,620 --> 01:01:55,500
Yes.

824
01:01:55,500 --> 01:01:56,740
I saw that.

825
01:01:56,740 --> 01:01:57,580
It was amazing.

826
01:01:58,460 --> 01:01:59,620
Yeah.

827
01:01:59,620 --> 01:02:01,060
I just name dropped.

828
01:02:01,060 --> 01:02:01,900
Me and Michelangelo.

829
01:02:01,900 --> 01:02:02,740
I just trumped.

830
01:02:04,740 --> 01:02:06,020
Bragged a little bit.

831
01:02:06,020 --> 01:02:08,060
All right, so we end up watching the-

832
01:02:08,060 --> 01:02:09,500
Are we going with the Colorado story or-

833
01:02:09,500 --> 01:02:10,340
Hold on.

834
01:02:10,340 --> 01:02:14,620
So we take your ass and the producers looking at me.

835
01:02:14,620 --> 01:02:15,460
We got-

836
01:02:15,460 --> 01:02:16,300
Oh my gosh.

837
01:02:16,300 --> 01:02:18,260
We got pulled out of the snow by the firefighters.

838
01:02:18,260 --> 01:02:19,100
You can tell that part.

839
01:02:19,100 --> 01:02:19,940
We did.

840
01:02:19,940 --> 01:02:22,700
So we wake up the next morning prior to taking Jeff

841
01:02:22,700 --> 01:02:26,140
to Denver, we called up Paul's-

842
01:02:26,140 --> 01:02:27,340
Hey Paul, what's the best-

843
01:02:27,340 --> 01:02:28,180
Paul calls the fire department.

844
01:02:28,180 --> 01:02:31,660
Hey, what's the best way to get out of being stuck

845
01:02:31,660 --> 01:02:32,500
in the snow?

846
01:02:32,500 --> 01:02:34,460
Yeah, because we were like calling a tow truck from Denver

847
01:02:34,460 --> 01:02:36,940
or Colorado Springs would have been like 600 fucking bucks,

848
01:02:36,940 --> 01:02:37,780
man.

849
01:02:37,780 --> 01:02:38,860
That would be $5,000.

850
01:02:38,860 --> 01:02:40,540
I was like, no, let's call the fire department

851
01:02:40,540 --> 01:02:41,620
right down the street.

852
01:02:41,620 --> 01:02:42,460
They did it.

853
01:02:42,460 --> 01:02:44,180
And they came in 20 minutes, boom.

854
01:02:44,180 --> 01:02:45,020
They were bored.

855
01:02:45,020 --> 01:02:45,860
They must've been bored.

856
01:02:45,860 --> 01:02:46,700
Oh yeah.

857
01:02:46,700 --> 01:02:47,660
They're like these poor shitty slickers.

858
01:02:47,660 --> 01:02:48,620
Oh yeah.

859
01:02:48,620 --> 01:02:50,020
They're like these stupid men.

860
01:02:50,020 --> 01:02:50,940
Yeah, and then he's like,

861
01:02:50,940 --> 01:02:52,740
cause you were in the rental, we had the rental

862
01:02:52,740 --> 01:02:54,860
and he was like, just so you know,

863
01:02:54,860 --> 01:02:56,660
half the car might get yanked apart.

864
01:02:56,660 --> 01:02:57,500
Yeah.

865
01:02:57,500 --> 01:02:59,420
And the back bumper is going to get ripped off.

866
01:02:59,420 --> 01:03:00,260
So the back of the Expedition-

867
01:03:00,260 --> 01:03:01,100
Are you good with that?

868
01:03:01,100 --> 01:03:02,060
Are you good with that?

869
01:03:02,060 --> 01:03:02,900
So on the front-

870
01:03:02,900 --> 01:03:03,860
The show was pacing.

871
01:03:03,860 --> 01:03:04,700
The front-

872
01:03:04,700 --> 01:03:05,540
I was, I was loud in there.

873
01:03:05,540 --> 01:03:06,380
I can't do this.

874
01:03:06,380 --> 01:03:07,780
But on the front of the car, they had these hooks

875
01:03:07,780 --> 01:03:09,580
designed so you could be pulled.

876
01:03:09,580 --> 01:03:12,260
On the back, they didn't have the hook, however they did.

877
01:03:12,260 --> 01:03:14,700
It was behind a secret plastic little thing.

878
01:03:14,700 --> 01:03:17,420
Dude, the guy walks up and pulls this tab off

879
01:03:17,420 --> 01:03:18,260
the back of the car-

880
01:03:18,260 --> 01:03:19,100
Fuckin' thing off?

881
01:03:19,100 --> 01:03:19,940
I had no idea it was there.

882
01:03:19,940 --> 01:03:21,100
They got this little come along, it was like,

883
01:03:21,100 --> 01:03:22,740
errrrr, just pulled us out.

884
01:03:22,740 --> 01:03:24,300
Paul, puttin' on the reverse.

885
01:03:24,300 --> 01:03:25,140
Blah, blah, blah, blah.

886
01:03:25,140 --> 01:03:26,500
I got worried.

887
01:03:26,500 --> 01:03:29,820
When he started doing the winch and the fire truck

888
01:03:29,820 --> 01:03:31,740
started moving forward.

889
01:03:31,740 --> 01:03:32,580
It did.

890
01:03:32,580 --> 01:03:33,420
I was like, we're fucked.

891
01:03:33,420 --> 01:03:34,260
Yeah.

892
01:03:36,860 --> 01:03:39,100
All right, well we didn't get through nearly any

893
01:03:39,100 --> 01:03:40,700
of the topics that we were trying to get through.

894
01:03:40,700 --> 01:03:42,020
We got through Colorado.

895
01:03:42,020 --> 01:03:45,180
We did relevant tangents off of the Colorado trip.

896
01:03:45,180 --> 01:03:47,900
But I wanna talk about my freaking Kentucky thing

897
01:03:47,900 --> 01:03:49,300
next podcast.

898
01:03:49,300 --> 01:03:54,300
Well, it's the first half of the April 17th, 2024 podcast.

899
01:03:55,380 --> 01:03:56,580
So glad to be back.

900
01:03:56,580 --> 01:03:57,420
Cheers, guys.

901
01:03:57,420 --> 01:03:58,260
Cheers, cheers, cheers.

902
01:03:58,260 --> 01:03:59,100
Yeah, big cheers.

903
01:03:59,100 --> 01:03:59,940
I missed you guys.

904
01:03:59,940 --> 01:04:01,260
Yeah, big time.

905
01:04:01,260 --> 01:04:02,140
Thank you, Mr. Producer.

906
01:04:02,140 --> 01:04:03,140
Dudes, that goes to Sean.

907
01:04:03,140 --> 01:04:03,980
I'm Paul.

908
01:04:03,980 --> 01:04:18,980
I'm Jeff.