I just. Sweet and creamy.
So it's February.
Right. It is.
Valentine's is passed.
A lot of things.
24. Right.
A lot of things have passed.
I know.
Like we have President's Day yesterday.
Are we not to celebrate that?
I had to work.
Yeah. Well, the schools were out.
So it's February 20th.
What do we talk about?
Oh, the Super Bowl.
We had a Super Bowl.
Did we talk about the Super Bowl?
I don't. Dude, I can't remember.
Because I was out of town for the Super Bowl.
We haven't even talked about Super Bowl.
Super Bowl.
Well, that's what happens when you're a dude like us.
Why?
February 20th, 2024.
Thank you, Mr.
Producer, for showing up our first half podcast.
Dudes Like Us. I'm Sean and Paul.
And I'm Jeff.
And it has been a while.
It has. There's been a lot going on in the lives of the dudes like us.
Paul was out of town for a while.
It was.
Then I was out of town for a while.
All for the same thing.
Different people, but aging parents.
Aging parents.
My father and your father and my father.
Correct. Correct.
Yeah, mine was checked into the hospital because he had a really bad infection
and his kidneys weren't working and it was a it was kind of a nightmare.
I so he was on the break. Back up a little bit. Yeah.
So your father had some had some kidney issues.
Yeah. But how how did it come about?
How did you learn about this?
How long has he had it?
What was the process leading up to this?
So the dudes like us out there can kind of look for certain signs
or anticipate certain things.
And what do you do? Who do you call?
Yeah. So this was a tricky one because he had, you know, aging.
Elderly people get UTIs like a lot.
Apparently it's not a is that a urinary tract infection?
Yes. Which, by the way, includes the kidneys.
I don't think I did. I didn't notice it does.
My wife had a UTI that moved to her kidneys. Yes.
And I didn't end up in the hospital. Yeah.
And and so one of the things for men, actually, I think it's for both men
and women, if you're experienced burning while urination,
that is a telltale telltale sign down the urethra.
Yes. Down the urethra and the vulva.
Wait, maybe not the vulva.
The vulva. Yeah, I'm not sure.
That always seems to come.
Was it affected with some sort of spiral bacteria?
I don't know, Sean.
That was very specific question.
OK, so what happened was he he had bladder cancer a long time ago
and had a bladder removed, and so he's got like a stoma in a bag.
So he doesn't experience burning.
Oh, because it doesn't pee through his pee.
That's exactly right.
So we had no idea.
Like he would not have been able to tell us.
So that happens.
Stoma wasn't burning. He didn't feel anything.
He felt nothing.
So when you when you abandoned your pee pee for the year and
I mean, what was it like just like a door knocker at that point?
Does it just hang out? There's no function for it.
I don't know the answer to that.
I would imagine it's still functional.
Like if I would imagine younger men, I mean, I don't know about 83 year olds,
but younger men who have had a bladder cancer and have to pee out of a bag
and a stoma have a functioning penis from a sexual perspective.
That's what you get erections.
I wasn't. Yeah, I was.
I mean, I guess those are those could be a lot of questions.
I would ask if his father could still masturbate.
Well, I mean, I'm just that was a private conversation.
Yeah. Thank you for sharing that.
But so when you're when your dad, let's let's let's let's go through this.
So let's say your dad finds the opportunity to gain whoopie.
I don't know how that's possible, but let's just say it happens.
Is his ejaculant redirected into the bag as well?
No, no.
No, that doesn't come from your bladder.
No, it does not.
The sexual function is very different than the urinary
urinary tract and urinary process.
Man, yeah, that is that's pretty pretty. It seems like a fair question.
Actually, it's you know what?
I learned a lot about, you know, when you're in the hospital
and you've got time on your hands to like, try to figure out what's going on
and how to help when they get home and all that kind of stuff.
You read up on it. And I was like, I was like, damn, I had
I was learning all sorts of stuff about, you know, our own bodies. Right.
I mean, one of the things I realized, man,
you got to take care of yourself.
Oh, yeah. You know what I mean?
It was a very morbid realization that it's like, you know, there's a lot of shit
and I eat and drink and all this kind of stuff that's not not do me any favors.
You know, you know, with my father, you know,
and he's 80, he'll be 82 in April.
And when we were on the way up to the hospital for a surgery,
what kind of surgery was he was having heart surgery?
What type of heart?
It was a mitral clip surgery.
So anyway, my dad had a massive heart attack a year ago, basically. Right.
He had a big snow and he decided to go out and try to snuggle shovel
three plus feet of snow off his driveway and gave him a heart attack.
And what happened is it destroyed his heart.
He's got congestive heart failure and he's got leaky valve.
So he's had fluid on his lungs, no energy,
no stamina, anything. Right.
So he basically sat around for a year and he got extremely weak.
And so we went up there
and on the way up there, you know, you have the conversation
what happens if you want extenuating circumstances performed on you.
He's like, oh, that's all in the paperwork.
You know, I've already got all that taken care of and stuff like that.
Meaning like do not resuscitate. Right.
I mean, how far do you want them to go before they call it? Right.
Right. Right. Oh, yeah.
So had that discussion, which was fun.
Not fun. And then
I looked up online and this was an eye opener.
I looked up the and there's varying different data sources,
but the one I looked at initially as I Google, what's the average
lifespan of a U.S. male? OK.
And first that came up was 73 years old. Damn.
So I was like, well, dad, you beat that by almost a decade.
Wow. Which is good.
Seventy three. Seventy three.
Seventy three. And then then I started doing the math. I was like.
Well, that's only 18 years for me.
That's not long from now.
You know, so it did kind of opened your eyes.
And I've seen it range from 73 to 76. Right.
So is the average. And I was like, so.
And I got to thinking about you guys. I was like, so
that's an average for the three of us. Yeah. Right.
And 18 years for me,
less than two decades, 19 for Sean and basically 20 for you
because you're 53. Right. I am. So.
So I'm going to way outlive you guys at least a year. Right.
But it puts nine months.
It put a lot into perspective for me.
And the same thing happened when my mother passed away.
It put a lot of perspective into my life.
And I started living a little differently.
And, you know, I don't give a shit. You know, I try not to stay angry.
Right. Shit like that. Right. If I do, I let it go.
I'm not saying I don't get angry, but I let it go.
I was like, it's not worth it.
It's not worth the pain, the heartache and all that bullshit
because it doesn't really mean anything in the end.
And I'm just going to let it go. Yeah. No, that's good insight.
So but this this this one was a little different because, like I said,
18 seems like it's close.
Yeah, especially how fast that pendulum swinging right now.
It seems to be swinging faster and faster.
Time is flying by faster and faster. Right. It's just.
I'm actually hoping it does the opposite.
I look back on like the child rearing years and how that flew by
because it was constantly you're here, you're there, you're you know,
you're going all these events when they're little and then they go into school
and they all these events. Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. Right. So fast.
And then I'm hoping it majorly slows down.
Well, right now, it's still going fast because you're doing the same damn thing
every day. You're waking up, going to work, waking up, going to work,
waking up, going to work. True.
Now, when you retire, maybe it's like maybe it slows down.
Does it grind to a halt? I don't know. I don't. I don't know.
I'll tell you what, there's in terms of and that's all perception.
What I mean is that time is time. Time is time.
So there's a there's a trend with two separate individuals that work for our
that used to work for our company.
They retired and five years later,
we reached out to them or like, hey, we need some help.
Are you interested?
Yeah. And they came out in from outer retirement by saying that
in their feedback was this is that they loved retirement,
but they were bored, bored.
You get to find things to do. Yeah. I mean, you just don't wake up and sit down.
Yeah. A lot of people, they volunteer.
They start, they get involved in different charities or whatever.
I mean, there is no limit to how busy you can make yourself. Oh, yeah.
There's no question about that.
I mean, I know I don't know retirement, you know, like a lot of retired people.
But I've heard stories of like, oh, my dad is busier than ever.
And once he retired, he's even busier than he was before. Right.
You're volunteering. You're playing golf. You're in the wood shop.
You're whatever you're doing. Yeah.
You just don't wake up and sit down and watch prices right every day. Right.
And drink bourbon all day. Some do. We could do that.
Then it would be miserable, I think. Yeah.
I wouldn't like that either. Right.
Watching Netflix all day long until you reach the end of Netflix.
Yeah, you just watch everything.
And then you watch the end of Hulu. I'm done.
All done. I've seen. Yep. Everything.
I wonder if that's possible. All of it.
I wonder if it's possible to watch all of Netflix.
No, that's be the be incredible.
It's suck. I mean, Shelley and I are trying.
No question about it.
Well, they do have a lot of good things on on on these streaming channels
that are fun to watch.
And it is kind of a sign of the times.
You know, these little mini series. Yeah.
You know, you don't have to watch a whole.
And plus, I like the fact that if you just you know,
they come out weekly, monthly, whatever it is.
I think it's month a weekly some of these episodes.
And if you don't watch them and you save them up.
So let's say the show comes out and you don't start watching it
till two, three months later.
That way you can like binge watch like eight, ten shows in a row
or the first season, perhaps.
That's what everybody's doing now is watching this shit out of it.
It's fun, though. It's a joy.
It is, you know, it's you get sucked into it and go one more.
You want to watch one more?
So go back to our dad's and in just mortality.
And I mean, what say you guys on, you know, what do you do now
with your dad? What do you do with your mom?
I mean, what do you want to do?
I mean, how are you going to handle this?
I mean, first, not handling the if they pass,
but just like them living.
How are you going to make them comfortable?
How are you going to communicate with them?
You know, are you going to call them more often?
Are they lucid enough to, you know, I mean, you're going to have to
do like us out there.
Their parents live away from you and you have to bring them into family.
Paul, you brought your father in and your brother made a sacrifice
with his family and brought them into the house and he's a comedy.
Jeff, you're about to do the same thing.
So there's guys out there.
I don't know. Depends on my dad.
Well, I mean, not necessarily in the house, but they're going to have to.
He's going to have to move closer.
You cannot be out there.
He'll fight the fight that.
Yeah, he doesn't. So that's that's you.
Did you scratch the surface? Oh, yeah, I brought it up.
I brought it up as a stalemate.
Well, he and I was I told him, I was like, just think about it.
Right. I was like, you know, I told him, I was like, we want you close.
It's you know, your daughter wants you close. Right.
And it's logistically easier.
Oh, yeah. But at the same time, yes.
It's frankly it bothers me.
I kind of a sense that's a little selfish, you know, and that he doesn't want to.
It would upset me if my parents didn't want to live closer.
Well, here's his here's where I think his point of mind is
him and my mother retired out there.
They built that house.
They had plans to live in it and travel and everything.
And I think and she passed away 2007, a long time ago.
And I think he would see it as betraying her.
He's never gotten over it to the leak. Correct.
He I think he would see that as betraying her.
If he sold him.
So he's going to live out that dream. Correct. Until it's over.
Correct. As a lot and good for him.
I mean, you know, that really verifies that he just was in love with her.
Of course. It's great. It's a great story.
It is great. But at the same time, not how it ended, but you know,
I mean, you can't have this.
It's difficult to have some of these conversations,
not from the point that it's hard to talk about it, but it's
it's hard for them to move past it without really.
Jamming a square in a circle, you know, well, it is.
And I think he would feel that he would be leaving that behind.
And a lot of the memories were granted.
There weren't a lot of good ones.
He's already making preparations.
He's already gutted the house of stuff.
Yeah, still. It's different.
Because when we when we moved my parents from Tucson to to to Brian,
it was my dad's like the way he responded was like,
you want us to just leave our whole lives.
You just want us to uplift our whole lives and just let me
and just throw it all away.
I mean, what about my life? Right.
And I was like, damn, dad.
I mean, it's like, but, you know, what's here?
Like nothing's in Tucson. Right.
I mean, I mean, well, I shouldn't say nothing.
But he has a son there.
Well, I know. Yeah.
I was going to say, I mean, my brother just listens to the podcast.
But if you do be like, what the fuck?
But I mean, it was just they needed like much.
They needed in-home care.
They just needed in-home care and 24 7, you know, that kind of thing.
Yeah, my dad's not there.
He he was not happy at all and still not happy.
I mean, well, that's what I also think about.
I was like, if I talk him into moving, whether it's here or up into Ohio
with my sister close, would he be happy?
Those last one to five years of his life. Right. Right. Or.
Do we work through it where he's at?
I mean, it all depends on like what he finds important.
Like we were like trying to sell him on.
You can be around green kids and you're going to be around.
And dad, I'll be able to see you got only three hours away.
And that's what I've been doing.
Like you asked earlier, Sean, how do we handle that?
I'm going down. How many times have you guys told me?
I've told you guys I'm going down to Brian this weekend.
I'm going down to Brian this weekend.
I'm trying to capitalize on every moment I can.
There's not much left. There's not much left.
Not much left. So I mean, and I would tell you, my mom has dementia.
And if I had had if I could have one more meaningful conversation with her,
you know, just one more.
So if your parent, I mean, do not anybody listening,
do not take for granted that your parents can talk to you
and have a meaningful conversation.
You know what I mean? Right.
Because that can change in a week. That's right.
So I mean, I have I know we don't like to talk about dreams.
I have dreams where my mom talks to me in my dream and I'm like, damn,
she's talking, she's better. Right.
And then I wake up and I'm like, oh, fuck. Right. Right.
Anyway, so I don't know.
Don't take that for granted.
That's why what I'm doing now, I'm driving down as often as I can.
Yeah. I'll tell you, I'll tell you what, I'm amazed at the the hospital out there.
And he went to a hospital in Reno top notch.
I can't say one bad thing about that. Right. Excellent.
For the top to the bottom, as far as being being taken care of.
He actually commented like multiple times a day.
He was like, this is really nice. Right. I just may move in here.
Yeah. Well, it's not just that, but it's the nurses, the doctors,
everyone was respectful and really took care of him.
Listen to him explain things to me when I was in there,
explain things to him when I wasn't and stuff like that.
So the hospital or center, those who's at a hospital,
hospital renowned hospital in Reno, outstanding.
I was like, all my surgeries, I'm going to come out here and have from now on.
Getting so. Yeah. You know, that was me.
Here's so that's one thing I wanted to share on tonight's podcast
is the experience in a hospital.
Now, the hospital we were in, you know, good hospital, great nurses,
great doctors, great everything.
But being in a hospital sucks, sucks ass.
And let me tell you why.
So like I spent we made a point to spend the night in his room.
Like I did like probably four nights.
My sister did. My other brother did.
And I'll be damned, they're not interested
in letting patients have any rest whatsoever.
They came in to check blood,
no, to draw blood, to do blood sugar test, to do x rays, to do an EKG.
I mean, I'd be like finally falling asleep two in the morning.
Bang, door is open.
Lights flip on and my dad's like, oh, what's happening?
What's happening? And they're like, oh, we're here to do an EKG.
OK, OK. And I'm like, what the fuck?
I mean, they were sleeping. Yeah.
I'm like, I thought rest for the patient like matters.
Like when you're healing.
That's during the day. It's intermittent.
OK, so I finally rationalized it.
There's two teams, right? There's a day team.
Oh, yeah. And then there's a night team.
And the night team behaves just like the day team does.
Meaning if they have a checklist of things that they've got to do,
they don't give a shit what time it is. Right.
It's daytime for them.
Oh, it is. And I swear, man, they just they just one o'clock,
four o'clock, three o'clock, and then you'll just fall asleep.
And here comes another person. OK, I'm here to do.
I'm the respiratory therapist.
Yep. And they just start doing shit.
My dad's like, get off me. Right.
You know, I've only I've had a I was exposed to the hospital overnight
with when my wife was in there for various reasons.
It's similar. Similar.
Yeah, they had a couch.
It wasn't very comfortable. No, of course not.
You know, it was.
And yeah, every few moments. Yeah. Coming in.
It's crazy. Yeah. I didn't stay in my dad's room.
Wake me up. Yeah. Oh, God.
And they were like, good. Yeah. Yeah.
There you go.
So did you did you spend the night? No, I did not. OK.
Because for one thing, with my dad's surgery,
what they did is they put a mitral clip into his heart.
And what is that?
It's like a stent to hold something open.
Well, what was leaking?
He has a leaky valve.
There's like a bad ass procedure that they do.
And it's amazing what they got this little thing
that goes in there like a little snake and it goes around corners.
And then all of a sudden, this thing comes out of the snake
and it opens up and it's a tube.
They feed it flap.
They feed it through your urethra. Right. Yeah.
No, it's the rectum. There's a flap.
But it's a it's a one way flap.
So when you blow it blows out, but it won't blow it won't suck in.
It's amazing. So it comes out of this end and it
it inflates inside the the artery like a little balloon.
It is a crazy technology.
And so and then they pull it right out and it replaces essentially the valve.
Heart. Well, open heart surgery like you don't need to open the chest.
Yeah. Well, it replaces that.
But I'm saying is that you currently have a valve that's leaky. Right.
So when it when it when the blood gets pushed out
and then there's still a little it backs up and regurgitates. Yes.
Yeah. But with this new valve they put in there and it's synthetic.
It's synthetic and it's amazing.
It's not like a baboon heart valve. It's not.
No, it's made out of it's made out of something. Right.
But you normally scars over and you'll have like flesh over it eventually.
Right. Amazing. Yeah. But it's amazing technology.
Yeah. So it comes so far, especially when it comes to the heart related things.
Well, his heart was so weak.
The doctor said multiple times to him, we're surprised you survived the surgery.
Right. So he did.
And the fact that his heart was so so weak
and the fact that they put this clip in.
Now his heart was performing better. Yeah.
And they said, well, your heart has to adjust
to this new
thing in your heart and this new performance is now higher. Right.
So your heart was not used to performing at a higher level as a muscle, as a muscle. Right.
So they put in an external heart pump. Oh, my gosh.
To him. So he had it for about two days.
And this is big. This big box that's out of the floor.
And it went in the same hole that they wanted to do in the catheter,
femoral artery or whatever they went up. Yeah. Right.
And his groin. And it was full.
It had fluid and would push fluid in and would pump its heart somehow.
It would assist his heart. Amazing. It wouldn't pump it for him,
but it would assist his heart and they could set percentages. Right.
We're going to do 50 percent of the work for the first 24 hours.
And then they started dialing it back to see how his heart would respond.
And while he had that in, he had a nurse in his room 24 seven. Oh, yeah.
The nurse never left.
And if he would need to use or he or she needed to use the restroom,
someone would come in to relieve him.
And he was always looking at a computer doing printouts, whatever.
Damn, you were at a top notch. Yeah. Hospital.
And so then they started dialing that back.
And initially, when I went in there, they're like, so he had surgery on Tuesday.
And he was like, I should be done.
You know, the doctor told me, you know, typically it's, you know,
one night in the hospital and I'm gone.
Well, when I first went in there, they're like, yeah,
he's probably not getting out here till Sunday at best. Right.
That's one thing I learned about hospitals.
Whatever they tell you, add like six weeks to it. Right.
Well, he recovered so well that once they, you know, pulled his pulled the pump out,
he checked out on Thursday. Damn. Awesome. So.
But he's physically weak. Yes. Right.
Like extremely physically weak. Sure.
So he needs to rebuild that up. So and we're working on that.
So he's got P.T. that's going to come to the house and right.
So help him walk around. Yeah.
So I said I want you to the doctor with him, his follow up week after doctor.
And I told him he was like, no, I don't need that. I don't need that.
I was like, Dad, you just need to get your strength back.
I'm not saying it's going to be P.T. for the rest of your life.
A month, two months, something like that.
I was like, you need to get your strength back so you feel more confident walking around your own home.
Oh, yeah. Right. So and that you that you get up and move around. Right.
Otherwise, you're just going to sit in the recliner. Right.
And not you know, that's not good. Right.
So P.T. should have started this week sometime
and have a he has an in-home nurse coming out as well. Good.
How often does the in-home nurse come?
This should be every other day. P.T. should be every other day.
And that also to provide wellness check.
Yeah, I could want to make sure he's eating, make sure he's
checked and vitals, but not there for very long.
But, you know, to come out, they won't be there.
So you you got a new watch for him, right?
I got him the Apple Watch.
That was like in October. And this is part of that.
That solution or well, part of being able to monitor him,
especially when he falls or something bad happens. Correct.
Does this alert you? Yeah, I set it up to where I'll get a text
by sister. We're going to text like like if the vitals are like,
no, if he falls, just if he falls. OK.
So if the vitals cease, then you don't get a message.
I don't think it works that way.
I don't think like if he just has a heart attack and dies, I don't think.
Or if his heart rate gets at a certain level, it kind of.
He'll get notified. He'll get notified.
Hey, your your cardiac rhythm is looking weird.
I mean, if it if it can alert you for falls, it can alert you probably for any of that.
I couldn't find it where I could.
I could find it where you could alert for falls that I could do it for other ones.
Something that would would accommodate that.
I mean, that's exactly what dudes like us would want for our parents who are
refusing to move close to us, refusing to have like in-home care.
Right. And they're on their own because they're stubborn.
Man, you you kind of outside of that, you got to put your cameras in there.
You kind of want them, you know, like in the hospital room with a monitor going, you know,
with the heart rate and the and the kind of shit.
I mean, that would be if that shit can be transmitted over the Apple Watch.
That'd be amazing. Is your dad still going for walks or anything?
Not outside. It's snowy and icy right now. Yeah.
He's not stable enough. I and the other thing is go out for walks either. Yeah.
And and one of the other things I did when I was there and I talked to the doctor
at the one week visit is like, I want to you know, he should qualify for a handicap plaque.
Oh, that's easy. Right. So she's like, of course, she filled it out.
We went the next day to the DMV and got it for him.
I get two of them, one for you and one for him.
I get one that way we can park wherever we want when we go on a run.
So I'm with Paul. Yeah. No. Yeah.
People abuse that all the time. And it ticks me off.
It ticks me off to write to people like my dad now.
I don't want him parking out in the middle of the parking lot,
trying to navigate through an icy parking lot. Right. Yeah.
So I got one a long time ago from my parents when they were still in Tucson
because my mom was said for yourself. Yeah. I can't work for myself.
No, no, no, no, no. I'm hearing a parrot.
Yeah, no, I'll play that card. Right.
So anyway, I'm trying to say that he's home. He said, yeah, I and I tell you what,
before the surgery, he could barely keep his eyes open.
He was falling asleep so much. Yeah. Yeah. Yep. Yep. Yep.
After the surgery, it wasn't working that great. It wasn't working.
And I think if he wouldn't have had that done, I don't think he would have been around
another six months. It was that bad.
And what's interesting is my dad was on the brink of death as well. Yeah.
His kidneys, his kidneys were they as a matter of fact, they said he's going to have to be on dialysis.
And one doctor, he was such a kind of an a-hole.
He was like basically saying, do you really want to put your dad through that?
How old is your dad? I go 83. He goes, yeah, you know, as a family, you need to make a decision.
I'm like, what do you mean make a decision on whether or not he does dialysis or not?
He's like, yeah. And I'm like, well, if he doesn't do dialysis, he dies. Right.
And he was like, yeah. And I'm like, fuck you.
You know, but you know, but I had to I was alone with my dad. Right.
And I was like, well, I'll ask him.
I mean, now keep in mind, another another symptom of UTI is that you're you become kind of loopy.
You get very loopy. And it's very often misunderstood for dementia.
But it's just a UTI. Right. Right. Anyway, so he's in and out and they're asking him questions.
Every single person that came in, what's your birthday? What's your name?
Do you know where you are right now? Why you're here?
You know, all these kind of things. And he was like, no, I don't know.
I don't know. I don't know why I'm here. I was like, damn, dad, come on.
I'm going to ask you something correctly. Right.
You know, because I didn't know what that was going to mean.
Like he's going to be here longer. You know what I mean? Right.
Anyway, so oh, shit, what was I saying about about the UTI, the dementia?
Oh, you were asking him if he wanted dialysis or not. Yeah.
I was like, I mean, talk about a tough conversation.
I was like, I didn't know how to word this. I was like, dad, you want to die?
I mean, but I said I said I kind of gathered myself and I said, do you do you want to be with God right now?
That's what I said. Right. And his eyes, because like he was like I said, loopy.
And his eyes got really big. Like, why are you asking me that?
And he didn't say anything. He just eyes got big.
And I was like, OK, well, that's the answer I wanted to get.
I said, no, we're doing dialysis. You know what I mean?
The doctor was like, yeah, he's like, oh, my God, idiot.
I do not want to do. Well, it kind of goes back to when they were talking about Obamacare.
I was like, you're the doctor in the face, the doctor. Yes. Oh, I thought you mean your dad.
Well, there's there's a set of people out there who don't think old people deserve the help.
Right. And when Obamacare was they start their life, they should die now.
You know, they're not worth the effort at this point or the money or the effort.
And they call them death panels. Right. Right.
So you saw that whole discussion was going on when Obamacare was being debated back.
And I remember Sarah Palin was railing on it. Yeah.
So you want a panel of people to say, OK, well, you're seventy five. Yep.
This surgery is going to cost this much and it's going to do this for you.
So it's not going to really do. Now you're going to die.
In our cases, it would have been, yeah, my dad needs this heart procedure.
My mom needs dialysis. And they would have said, yeah, no. Yeah.
They're they're old enough. They're just going to be without.
You know, we're just going to make them comfortable. Right. I'm going to give them fentanyl
and just make them comfortable. That's exactly how it would have played out. Yeah.
That's what that doctor was basically insinuating. Right.
Anyway, so anyway, he's back home. That's good. That's great.
His home is urine looks amazing. It's never looked this good.
Are you jarring it clear? It's it's yellow. I mean, are you jarring it like saving it like that?
Look, dad, look here. Try this. Let's put on the shelf.
You can use it to feed the plants in the back. This is sad.
But, you know, when he moved from Tucson to to to Brian, we immediately took him to a kidney doctor
because his urine looked horrible. Right. It was like a dark like a burnt orange brown.
It was brown. I mean, full on brown. Like it looked absolutely horrible.
He was septic. Yeah. Well, and we were thinking that the kidney doctor would say, oh, yeah, this isn't good.
We need to. And he was like, yeah, his kidneys are about 20 percent.
You know, blah, blah, blah, whatever.
And then it turned into red because he had an infection and he did what he was.
He had sepsis septic. Yeah, he was septic and on the verge of death. Right.
And now the urine looks better than it has.
We've ever seen it, which means his kidneys might be working and he might have a comeback.
They also like this. They say it happens. So we'll see. I'm optimistic.
Anyway, I know we've we've beat the hell out of this. We labor this one.
It's a tough one. It is a tough one.
And there's dudes, I guess, out there that that go through this all the time.
You know, so, you know, it's I'm glad you guys got the opportunity to go out there
and take care of these personal things because, you know, a lot of people don't.
A lot of people just ignore it.
A lot of people don't take care of their shit and they pass away. Right.
You know, and they don't have their their children that that will be an advocate.
I'll tell you what, it was an extremely stressful.
Ten, twelve days or whatever.
Look here, we're in lined by Jeff's spouse, Miss Julie,
who has intermittently been on the podcast a few times.
She's coming in, probably just still a little sip off the old jack Daniels.
Twelve years. This is Jack Daniels. Twelve year taste that.
Oh, that's why we know what's really going on here.
We're going to talk. We're going to talk about the bourbon here in a minute.
Bum bum bum bum bum. So, you know, fun things got out there.
Jeff was able to peruse some of the liquor stores and I don't know
if he came back with any bottles or not. I don't recall.
I did not. I did not find squat.
Oh, not a squat. Not squat. Huh?
Oh, yeah. We're going back here in a few more weeks.
Oh, yeah. Yeah.
Well, this one will be hopefully more vacationist.
Like I said, these this ten days, twelve days, however long I was out there,
was extremely stressful because I was still working.
So when your dad, you know, back at the back, let's take this
kind of twist this up a little bit. So while you guys were gone, you know,
we there, you know, several things happened.
I mean, it was a lot. I mean, it's already February 20th and we've had
Valentine's. We have the Super Bowl.
You were out there during the Super Bowl. Yeah.
And we didn't even talk about the Taylor Swift Super Bowl and all the
Swiftie Bowl, the Swiftie Bowl.
You know, look, I got to tell you, man, I like Taylor Swift.
You know, why do people hate her so much?
There's a lot of people that hate her. And look, frankly, I don't want to see her
in the Super Bowl. I think it's wrong, but I get what they're doing.
It's all propaganda shit. They want to like attract more people.
And based on the stats, they got a lot more viewership based on it.
I don't know. It wasn't her fault that they every single time Kelsey
caught the ball. Boom. They're showing Taylor Swift.
I'm like slamming a beer. That's not her fault.
And good for them. Good for them. Good for them.
But the stuff that surrounds her is kind of weird.
Like, you know, they've got some chick. What is the one of the spice chicks?
Where is one of her friends that fucking? No, it's not a spice girl.
What? What? Fucking ice spice. Yeah.
Something like that. She's got upside down cross and she's doing like some
double signs. I mean, what does that look like?
Annie. Yeah, she has the big furrow. Yes.
I don't know. What was the yellow app? There she is.
But the ice spice. But what was she doing?
What was she the one that urinated all over that dude?
Oh, God. Really? On stage?
That was some day. Remember that we watched that was horrible.
That was like a frickin spigot.
That's so great. We don't have to revisit this.
But yeah, my wife called her Annie.
But I mean, she looks like Annie. She got the red hair.
But you know, whatever. She's attractive. She's pretty.
But there was some there was some weird shit going on.
I wouldn't have thought about it. But in the in the in the suite,
she was wearing an upside down cross. Oh, well, that is absolutely
sacrilegious. So there's one. That's a demonic.
She was doing these little hand gestures that were like a little
naughty stuff that they said the satanic.
And I look seriously at upside down cross is absolutely satanic.
But there's no way to interpret that. It's the compilation of stuff.
So you've got you've got the upside down cross. You've got the
the supposedly satanic hand gestures you have.
Why would Taylor Swift have anything to do?
You know, I don't know, but I will share with you
one more thing about Taylor Swift that kind of like I was like,
I don't know that has some merit.
So there was somebody that won an award and they were up on the stage.
I don't know what award it was. And they were taking.
I want to thank this person. I want to thank this.
And Taylor was like, oh, yes, yes, yes.
And then she went. And I want to thank God.
Taylor was like, no, they caught they caught her saying that.
Yes. Oh, that's not good.
So I was kind of like it.
Look, look, scroll up a little bit, scroll up a little bit.
See, there's a Balenciaga. Go up a little bit more right there.
Down the look at Balenci Balenciaga Balenciaga.
Yeah, that's that. Well, that was just that ad campaign.
That doesn't mean that they don't have expensive.
All rich people wear. Yeah, yeah.
But that was not an upside down. Is that upside down cross or just like a pendant?
No, that's just a pendant.
Really? Is it? That's what they called an upside down cross.
Come on. I mean, the extra chain makes it look that way.
But it looks like almost like a snowflake to me.
It's not an upside down cross at all.
Yeah, I kind of agree with you now that I'm looking like this.
Look at her nails. Oh, you think she's still poopy? Yeah.
Oh, yeah, those are robust.
I've got some those are some some windshield scrapers for sure.
Yeah, I know. I don't know about the.
Yeah, I don't know about the her saying no to God or something.
When you see it from that far, it kind of looks suspect.
But the actual piece of jewelry, it is just it's just looks like.
Yeah, it's not whatever.
Yeah. You know what?
The thing is, is that it just draws attention to it and people start to ask these questions
and then they start kind of then you get the video of of Taylor Swift
and the comments about, you know, she's yeah, yeah, yeah.
And I want to thank God. No, no, no.
I'm like, well, why does she do that?
You know, it's just I find a video of that.
I bet you it's doctored. Well, she's a big live.
Yeah, but that doesn't mean she's and I'm not saying she is.
I'm not saying she is.
But there's evidently people are it's Taylor Swift.
I think some people really think she's part of the deep state, satanic Illuminati bullshit.
Really? Yes. But that's so dumb. It is.
That's so dumb. That's why I was like, I was like, why do people hate her so much?
I don't. Look for videos. I just don't pay attention to it. Right.
I think I think people are just dumb, to be honest.
And well, no, they're just wanting to be talked about.
Actually, it's going to be kind of a hard one.
The producer is trying to find the little skit on.
Yeah, I don't know. I don't know how to look at something fake.
Maybe fake, but it just it all came out at the same time.
And it's maybe just a smear campaign that they're trying to do.
And that's very well, you know, how many times I have clicked on an article
that has like a title that has something inflammatory, like, you know, somebody disses something, blah, blah, blah, blah, whatever.
And I get all I get all like, oh, damn it for real.
And then I click on Sean came over and drink my bourbon.
Right. And then I click on it. And it's like, no, that's not how that went down.
Jeff came over and drank his bourbon. Right. Well, he drank his own bourbon.
Why am I getting all upset? That was his own bourbon.
They all click. They all they all get graded on clicks.
How many people click into your story? Yes. Yes. Right.
That's what we try. How many people click on our podcast?
So Super Bowl things that passed on Bob, we got Valentine's Day.
What do you want? Wait a minute. Super Bowl halftime sucked.
In my opinion, it was Usher and I can't say that he's not talented or can't dance or anything, but it's not.
I will tell you. Not mine either.
So I do think that it was a little bit of fun. I like I like the roller skate things.
The music was fun. There were some things in there I just didn't like.
I didn't like the womanizing that he was doing.
So Usher is a he's a he's an icon there. He's a mentor.
You know, people look up to him. Kids look up to him and think that he's an American Idol judge or something like that.
I don't know. Maybe. But look, let me finish my thought here.
What I'm saying is that there are kids that look up to him, respect him and want to to to be like him.
And I think that it is wrong for him to to to to dance seductively behind Alicia Keys, who's married and treat her like a piece of that got talked about.
I want to see that again because I missed it. It's just it's just inappropriate. It's wrong.
I don't agree with it. And I think he needs to be a man. I think he needs to be an adult.
And he needs to have some cooth when it comes to being around. That is not the way you act.
He basically said, hey, guys, it's OK to to to treat women like this.
And I don't know why the feminists are all up in arms.
I hope this video like I mean, I mean, you're probably not going to see it.
But I mean, it's basically when he was, you know, Usher with Alicia Keys, you know, I mean, that stuff right there.
The that part of the dancing is good. The choreographed dancing is pretty cool.
Look, it was it was all good.
It was just there were parts of it that just to me, you know, and I guess you can't have it all.
But right, you know, there's some microphone issues at the very beginning.
I was kind of what the hell's going on here. This is not going to be very good.
He's an amazing dancer. He's an amazing entertainer. I guess. Yeah, he is.
It's just it's just that, you know, you had a major issue with the Alicia Key thing.
I need to see that again. I just what's up.
I think that one of the problems our society has specifically with black people is that they have a trend of disrespect.
And I think this falls that falls in line with it.
And it's this type of propaganda that the kind of like black entertainers are not don't have to follow like societal.
I mean, look, if you go to a nightclub like I've gone to clubs with my wife, for example, and she'll be dancing the corner and some black guy would come up and start like kind of moving in on her and think that's OK.
Right. And that is not OK. Take a look around you. You know, you got to there.
I've seen white guys do that, too, though. OK. OK.
And maybe I was wrong by saying just kind of narrow. But you're right. But it's just I think it's wrong.
It's a wrong thing to do to usher is what you're doing. Yes. Yes.
And I just think it's a it's a bad message to send to people to act that way because it's it's inappropriate.
It's a it's damn near criminal and it's damn near it's creepy.
You shouldn't be coming behind people like that. What's she you know, when Alicia Keys was up there and she was singing and doing something.
He's behind here kind of like like wanting to sample her, you know, like, oh, my God, she's pretty.
Oh, yeah, she is. But there's there's better ways to do it.
You don't have you can be tactful. You could be a decent.
I don't think I played that close attention.
I think Justin Timberlake was much more respectful to Janet Jackson when he tore off her.
Yeah. When he when he tore off the leather part of her.
Actually, that whole thing was choreographed. So well, that's what I think here.
I was like, this whole thing is choreographed. She knew what he was going to do.
I think it was part of the program. Maybe, maybe not.
I actually remember her having a look of surprise, but she immediately smiled and laughed and like, you know, like, no, I mean, the Alicia Keys thing.
That's what I'm talking about. You don't think that they her fate for some reason, her face made me here.
Here she is. OK, here we go.
All right. So they got the the piano, the big red, beautiful piano they have is just got pulled out from underneath that large piece of fabric.
That's a cool look. She's singing. Oh, yeah. It's what is that?
It looks like a tongue. It does look like a tongue.
It's just kind of cool. But it's shortly after this, he comes in, introduces himself into the picture and he starts dancing behind her.
And look, man, whatever. At the end of the day, I don't give a shit.
But it's just in the pudding. Let's see how bad it is.
It's just this is the Super Bowl. There's so many people watching and you really want to make and set good examples.
You want to you know, what would Jesus do? You know, what would you what? What is the best way to act?
What if you if you're using if you're using that as a litmus test for Super Bowl?
Look, they wouldn't do any of this. I don't care.
Super Bowl entertainment has always been. Yeah. But that doesn't need to be. I know.
That's my point. It's always been, you know, it's funny. Scandalous.
Do you remember what happened? OK, watch what we're here. See, he's he's dancing behind her.
He's checking her out. He's like, oh, my God, look at that ass. Oh, that's hot. That's hot.
She's fucking married. That's part of the show. That part's part of the show. Inappropriate.
Is it inappropriate? I think it's a. Yeah, this this is clearly choreographed.
She's looking back at him. She's acting like she's all I get it.
I get it. But they're they're not. Wait a second.
Where is this? He's touching her inappropriately.
This isn't the right. I disagree with you a little bit, Sean.
I think this is all part of the entertainment. Oh, yeah. Yeah.
I know it. I just think it's bad taste. I don't I don't disagree.
I don't. I think the whole JLo crotch shot is worse than this.
Yeah, I would. Hold on. Let's let's and I'm not saying that was that was wrong, too.
Look, just because there's worse doesn't like rationalize this.
Like she's married. What's he doing?
That's part of the program. No, I think it's part of the program. I disagree.
I mean, I'm going to I'm going to say that, yeah, it was all part of the entertainment.
It was all choreographed. They she knew exactly what he was going to do.
She was on board with it. I think it's just it's just like when someone's making a movie and they're married and there's a sexy.
I get it. Yeah, that's a good analogy. I get it. I just disagree with it. Yeah.
And I don't think I don't disagree with you disagreeing.
I think that there's there's better things for the NFL to promote during their halftime shows than this.
So do you remember when the when the Timberlake Janet Jackson thing happened?
It was outrage because they he literally exposed her breast, which had a pasty on it or tassel or something.
No, it was it was a star ring. It was a metal star ring that went around her nipple.
I think it was what I spice was wearing around her neck.
It might have been. No, no. Anyway, but she like remember she like covered up her breast and she looked down.
Anyway, they took I don't remember what what channel it was or what station, but they took tons of shit about it.
It was they have like Tom Petty the next year. So they had I was just going to say they had Paul McCartney.
It was the most boring, right? Non non talked about non controversial.
I mean, they went like way on the other other side of the whole thing and marching bands back.
Right. Look, anyway, I want to say that I want the entertainers to have fun.
But I just I I just want them to set good examples.
I want them to create new trends that provide new leadership in the youth, you know, and I want them to like walk the walk.
Yeah, I think there's examples out there of half times I do that.
I think Prince was one of the better ones. But then you go back to was an excellent one.
JLo comes out and does her sliding crotch shot right into the camera.
It was crazy. Yeah, but that was the camera man.
That wasn't her. Oh, it was her coordinated and she slid right in front of him.
And Lady Gaga, that was great. Yeah.
You know, you had I think one of the better ones was Bruno Mars as well.
I thought Lady Gaga was it was classy. But Bruno Mars was good.
But they had the Black Panther theme. You know, I wasn't on board with that for Bruno Mars.
It was weird. It was weird. And again, I like Bruno Mars and I don't want to whatever.
I mean, I just I want them. Look, there's a lot of people watching a lot of kids watching.
Why can't we just make a military theme? If I remember correctly, they were it was weird.
And it's it's a style and there's a designers and there's all kinds of people involved.
And I get it. But I'm still I stand behind what I said.
I think that should be a little bit more wholesome. I don't care what race you are.
I don't care what music it is.
There's a better way to make it more wholesome and family friendly.
I think wholesome is booed on, though. I think we need to make it come back.
You know, bring some back. I don't know if that's going to happen.
The cat's out of the bag. Well, and it's also not that they want ratings.
They want to be talked about. Yeah. The and the artists want to be talked about.
Unfortunately, I think some dudes like us out there don't appreciate it.
I do. And even though I don't mind watching, I hate to say it, but this is this is this old man syndrome.
It might be a little bit of that. It may be.
You know, it's it's a in other words, if we were to ask our kids, what do you think about that?
You know, oh, great. What do you think about that segment with Usher and Alicia Keys?
Did you think that was inappropriate? I don't think they're going to be like, recall it.
They're going to be like, what? What are you talking about, Dad?
I mean, you know what I mean? So I think there's definitely an element of old man, old man stuff going on.
So I don't know. Yeah. Because but but but then again, I don't like that analogy.
But, you know, just we've complained about it for a while.
It's just my opinion. No, no, no. And I hear you. I said what?
So there were some other things that happened, right?
During the halftime show? No, no, no. Just, you know, we talked about the Super Bowl.
I don't know if we want to talk about the game itself, but, you know, yet another.
I don't care. I thought it was a boring game.
I thought it was a good game. I just didn't really like how it ended.
But you're rooting for the forty diners.
I was I don't know what I was wanting. No, I started out.
He shows up at my house with the Kansas City Chiefs shirt. Yeah.
So I was out of the bag. He's got a handful of fuck off.
You know, no, I was I really honestly didn't care, but I don't I didn't have anything else to wear.
So, I mean, I'm I so where somebody is rooting for him.
I wore my Dallas Cowboys. I was rooting for the Chiefs until the Kelsey thing happened when he bumped his coach.
Yeah, I went out there all the mouthies. Well, I'll tell you what I put me off.
I prefer really I prefer the Chiefs to win their small market.
And I do not want San Francisco to win for the flaunt that shit. I hear you.
But I'm tired of my homes. Yeah. Kelsey. Well, I hate to tell you.
They're not going anywhere. I know they're going to probably win another three or four.
Well, I don't know if I agree with that. They may win another one, but I don't know about three or four.
I mean, my homes is they struggled. They struggled this year.
They peaked at the right time, but they struggled this year. Yeah, they did.
I know. Because I fucking Patrick Mahomes is a quarterback asshole.
I'm just saying he's he's the best in the game and he's not done at all.
Yep, I agree with that. But so, you know, there's some up and comers.
They got a they got to have a healthy front line to protect them.
And those guys are dropping like flies. Yeah.
You know, I think if Lamar Jackson could figure his shit out, I think they could have gone all the way.
Lamar Jackson, I don't think he's ready for the prime time. I think it was a good game, though.
I enjoyed watching it. I liked it down to the wire.
Overtime was exciting. I think the rest of the game was pretty boring. Yeah.
To be honest. Yeah. You know, I had a good time.
We had some good better than at the house, though, better than a 34 to 10 blowout.
And we had some we had some some pork loin that was cooked.
We had some ribs. There was some good food. Your ribs.
We had to thank you. I cooked those for like six hours.
Yeah, they were good.
It's a couple of racks of ribs.
Put some I mean, I put some magic sauce on there.
So Alex, he works at a at a restaurant, a steakhouse.
I heard that. Works at a steakhouse.
And he came home when he's got a whole court of the sauce for juice.
And I put that as a rub on there.
So I put like Montreal seasoning on there and I put that sauce all over it.
And I just let it sit. And I put it in the oven like at it was like seven in the morning.
It was ridiculous. Like maybe eight in the morning.
And I put it like on one hundred and sixty five hundred eighty something like that as low as I can get the oven to turn on.
And I just let it cook for hours and hours and hours.
And then I'll rate around three or four.
I started up the big green egg. Right.
Got that fucker up to about a thousand.
You seared them and pop those babies on there.
And honestly, it was difficult.
I couldn't take them out of the foil because they were falling apart so much.
Yep. That I couldn't take it out of the foil.
So I abandoned the whole green egg thing, took them back off that, put them in the back of the oven and flip the broiler on and to try to get that little burnt caramelization.
And they were they were phenomenal. I was super happy and excited about those.
And I can't wait to do some of those ribs again. Nice.
The others were some brats. We had some some they from Irish.
I know I had some Irish bangers.
I had some Italian sausage and regular bratwurst.
So there was like three varieties. Yeah, it was good.
Yeah, I enjoyed it. Yeah. There was some salads Tere made.
Queso, of course. Salsa. Yeah.
I love her salsa. She does a good job with the salsa.
So there was in Andrea brought over her her pumpkin chocolate.
Oh, that's good. Good, too. That's good.
She came over for a second. Low calorie.
I know it was not. I'll tell you what.
It was really good. Before we sign off, we have to talk about our bourbon.
Do you get one? We mentioned it earlier when my wife was up here, but I may edit that out.
No, it's all right. Hold on. Do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do.
Oh, I got a message.
Oh, look at this.
JD 12 in the back.
I was like, I was like, holy shit.
I get off the fucking immediately. I'm in the middle of a class.
I get out of the class, walk out the door and I call you voicemail.
I called Jeff Jeff. I don't remember my phone even going on. That's fine.
I called Jeff. Jeff's like, I was like, Jeff, there's a 12 year Jack Daniels.
Can you get it? Can you go to Total Wine?
Already on the way. I'm already circling.
Yes. He's like, I'm right outside the front door.
So he went and picked it up, scooped it up.
Twelve year Jack Daniels up at Total Wine. Thank you, Stan. Shout out to Total Wine.
What do we think? Outstanding. Outstanding. Yeah, it is.
Agreed. It's thick and viscous and it is
Jack Daniels on steroids, if you ask me. Yeah.
The 12 years does a good job. I really enjoy the fact that it's
it's over the 100 proof marker. I think it's 105, 107, 107.
This batch is number two, released in 2024.
And it's sweet and creamy. Yeah.
With notes of pipe tobacco. Yeah, you know, I was going to mention that.
That's the one thing I do taste. It's a carmely tobacco taste.
And normally when you say that, you're kind of like, that doesn't sound so good.
But this tastes good. Yeah, this is this is this is outstanding.
It really is. I would I would fetch to put this in the same ballpark
as is it Pinwood or Pin Hook Pin Hook.
Yeah, I think I gave Pin Hook an eight point three.
I think I'm going to I'm going to give this an eight point two.
I'll say eight even. I'd go about to eight five.
Oh, wow. I'm really enjoying it.
That's a big statement. Oh, that's good stuff, man.
That's the highest I've ever, ever heard you rate anything. Oh, yeah.
I don't know what some of the Elijah Craig barrel proofs are, but.
Well, it's good. It's super good. Highly recommended.
If you guys get an opportunity to grab it on your 12 year
Jack Daniels, Tennessee whiskey, it's a little harder to find.
Oh, it's super hard, man. We got super lucky.
And, you know, I've probably just got Stan fired.
I don't know. And it's in one of those quaint little bottles.
Seven hundred milliliters. Yeah. What the hell's up with that?
Is it seven hundred milliliters? Really? Yes, yes, it is.
It's aggravating. We get jipped out of 50 milliliters.
That's about a shot. And so one of our the story behind that is Europe
requires it to be seven hundred.
So Jack Daniels is starting to do it now.
Or they're see the problem. I don't want to say it's a problem,
but the discrepancies are that you've got an imperial system versus a metric system.
So they're trying to to shove it into a leader.
Is that what that's kind of what the I just heard that they
they want to start making two different sized bottles.
I mean, that. Yeah. But what do you mean?
They have a law there that like it has to be seven hundred over in Europe.
Right. So it's not it's not an imperial thing because it's seven fifty milliliters, seven hundred milliliters.
Right. Well, so hold on. It's seven hundred.
And if they're trying to make an imperial thing in what do you mean?
No, they're both milliliters. Yeah, they're both milliliters.
Yeah. But seven hundred milliliters is closer to a leader. Right.
So a leader is a thousand milliliters. Hold on. What the fuck am I talking about?
I don't know. I don't know. We're really worried about you right now.
Didn't you take your brain stuff before you started brain power?
Yeah, I blame the. No, I think this is strictly.
This is not a kind of trying to match it to what the U.S. is doing.
This is strictly they made a law in Europe that said they need they have to be seven hundred milliliter bottles.
So if you're going to sell your shit in Europe, you have to have a seven fifty for United States and a seven hundred.
Europe. And so they're like Jack Daniels like, fuck it, I'll make them all seven hundred and charge the same price, same price, making giving you less.
You know, Jack Daniels is upsetting Joe Biden.
Upsetting. Yeah, he's upsetting Joe Biden just by saying that because, you know, during the Super Bowl, Joe Biden had to do a little commercial.
That's a shrink. Oh, yeah. The shrink. What they call it? A shrink.
Yeah, shrink. I want to get after these these companies out there that are these these these potato chip bags.
They're getting smaller. He totally trying to deflect from his policies, creating this bullshit. Stupid man.
He just he just being told what to do. He's a puppet.
And his team is absolutely killing him.
And you know, it's so frustrating because it's like I hear I'm listening to it.
I'm like, how could you possibly say that he's doing a fantastic job?
I know it's outrageous. I mean, we look we are all United States citizens.
We all work super hard.
The all the United States citizens are super upset to send out as much money as we're sending outside the United States.
Why are we funding the planet when we have so many problems internally?
I know it. It doesn't make sense in these.
I know it. It drives me crazy.
So and I feel bad for those other countries that are are fucked up and are unprotected.
You know, but about Ukraine, why is that our fault?
So we're holding up. We're holding up the the the funding for Ukraine and Ukraine is running out of artillery.
How are we supposed to forever fund this war?
Well, that's where Europe needs to kick in.
That's where Germany and Poland.
Well, they're not going to because they don't have they've got Joe Biden in office
and he's going to give them a free ticket because there are secrets there that they don't want shared.
And I don't and I'm full of shit because I don't have any proof to say that.
But why the hell else are they allowing all this money to go unchecked out the door to them?
To Ukraine, you mean to Ukraine?
I don't know. I mean, they're trying to.
I mean, I don't I don't know why anybody seems to think that Russia really has like global conquest ambitions.
Do they? I don't think they could.
I mean, I know they want to they want to put the old Soviet Union back together.
I get that. I can at least understand.
I'm not saying it's OK, but I'm just saying I at least understand the there's an endgame for them.
They understand what's going on.
But I mean, they're not going to try to extend past anything that was inherently originally, you know, Soviet Union territory.
They're not going to go over Poland and East Germany.
So what's going to happen after that was never.
Oh, I know. But that's the fear. Right.
Right. Yeah.
That's what I know. Who's going to take after it?
I mean, does he have a second in line?
Putin. Oh, Putin. Oh, I don't know.
Yeah, those guys right behind him, I'm sure.
Well, he just killed his biggest opponent.
I know he died in prison and the and they saying his body was all bruised and battered and they want the body back.
And they're like, it's ludicrous to say that we killed him in prison.
We didn't kill him in prison. We shipped it off to somewhere that's not the normal place.
It's ridiculous. Yeah.
All right. So the other thing about NATO I want to bring up.
So Trump made the comment, you know, Trump, Trump's an idiot when he's just shooting from the hip.
OK. And well, let me tell you what I'm saying. Then they jump on it and then and they and they convinced ignorant Americans that he's stupid and evil because he he's saying here's what he said.
He goes, remember, he was hammering on a NATO nations that you they are required by the NATO treaty agreement to to to contribute a certain percentage of their their fair share.
Yes, their fair share, but a percentage of their GDP to, you know, to the to the defense.
Well, they're not doing that. And he railed on them back then.
Oh, yeah. Right. And so he made the comment.
It was a flippant comment. He's like, well, you know, if you're if they're not going to put in their share, then, you know, maybe Russia just, you know, go ahead and take them over.
And you know what? So be it. Fuck them. Right.
Well, and he doesn't mean that he doesn't mean that he's just being he being a bully.
I'll even tell him that's what he said. That was the controversial part is he followed up with the statement saying, I'll even tell him. Right. Right.
Well, but and then so what is the liberal media run with?
Uh, uh, and generals now they have generals on CNN saying, I think it's totally irresponsible for Trump said that he that he would not honor the NATO commitment.
And, you know, and he would let down his allies. That's a horrible message to send to your allies.
That's a silly Clinton saying he means what he says. He means what he says. He's going to do it.
He'll let Russia run all over the world. This is coming from a bitch that sold Putin his his arsenal of regular weapon of uranium.
I mean, it's it's it's I can't stand that he he doesn't have diplomacy in his words because and now the people that are ignorant or stupid are going to going to continue to hate Trump even more.
Well, I hadn't heard any of this. So most people aren't going to hear this. Well, it's all over MSNBC and CNN.
Not very many people watch those channels anymore. Well, I hope you're right. But their viewership.
But to go back to what Paul's saying is and look, this is this has been a problem from Trump from day one. Shut the fuck up.
Yes. You know, he he he look, he should get what he says. I don't say monitor because it sounds shitty. But no, take what he says with a grain of salt.
But not. But he doesn't need to say it. You don't have you shouldn't have to say take things with a grain of salt.
Don't fucking say that. Exactly. He should. He's kind of like you, Sean. You're like, I'm Sean. Well, you know what?
Say it. Say, you know what? I say things the way I see it. I shoot from the hip and I say things that sometimes I don't say them right. Say that.
Yeah, he'll never know that. No, he'd never admit that. Well, but that's the problem.
You know, I'll tell you one thing else I would I would want from Trump that's completely off the topic.
I want him to have some humility towards his wife. I want him to to say that he loves his wife and that and embrace her as a president.
I think he he was he showed he showed a soft spot for sure when her mother died.
He needs to do recently a better job with that. I think that there's a I think that will win over the hearts of a lot of women.
Maybe, you know, because he's he's like an a-hole. Yeah, he's calloused.
And he kind of yeah, I don't want to say he's an a-hole.
I would call him more of a narcissist because I don't think he's purposely trying to be an a-hole.
I think he's he's stuck in this mentality. But we don't know what he's like when the lights are out.
We really don't know. Watch Big Bang Theory. You know, we don't know him at all.
We know the person on the stage who's fucking son is eight feet tall.
You see that huge. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. What's his name?
Is there a new picture of him? He starts with a B Baron Baron Baron.
Is there a new Trump? Now, he's just he's fucking six foot eight.
Yeah, he's I'm like, what in the fuck is going on over there? Yeah. You know.
Anyway, it was just it was just frustrating to me that he is giving.
Here's maybe the better way to word this. He's giving the left ammunition.
Yes. His words. Yes. I don't want him to do that.
If he would just be quiet and just when I say have humility, I'm just talking like be a little bit humble with your words.
Just be a little bit softer. Stop. Stop with the whole making up nicknames for everybody.
Yeah. And just look and he during the primary his own bed.
And I'm like, dude, if you wanted to be president and you want to woo the people, this isn't the way to do it.
Because everyone knows that you can do a good job and you can get the job done and you can come up with these policies.
That's going to be a win win. Good platform. America first.
I believe he's got what it takes. But you know what? You got to be a salesman and you got to sell it.
And by the way, you're a president to the whole country. Yes.
I mean, and I know Biden Biden has forgotten. I know. I know. No president.
I mean, how many he called by and basically called half of us terrorists. I know. Yeah, I know. He did.
He said the market people. I was like, shut the fuck up. The radical boggaz.
Anyway, what was the other thing? There was one more thing in the Trump thing. Oh, that three hundred and fifty million dollar judgment.
It's a fucking joke. That's crazy. By the judge. No jury. No jury.
He asked for a jury, but it was a judge, one person, and he had full rein on the decision. Yep. Full rain.
Day two, he got to go. Yeah. Guilty. Three fifty. So what? And who, by the way, is a Biden contributor?
So we got we got two things here. First of all, who gets the money? Number two.
I forgot what number two was. The state gets the. Yeah, but there's there's no there's no victim.
There's no there was no victim in his crime at all. So, I mean, in number two, nobody got defrauded.
Even the banks came out and said, if I was it, let's say that's what we know. Let's say I did that.
OK, why? Why the three hundred fifty million? Why so much? I mean, I mean, if the dudes like us podcasts were to be set to the courts, would they fucking charge us three hundred fifty million?
No, they're there. It was a political witch hunt. And they're trying. I get it.
But I'm trying to try to hurt you. They're trying to do two things.
They're trying to show to the to the country that he's a criminal. It was a civil suit. Right.
But they want you a criminal, but they want to show that he's like a criminal and that he's done shady business practices.
And they want to keep him keep his they want to hurt his business.
They're trying to they they they have cut him out of New York. Yes.
Basically, they they cut him out and they cut his sons out. I think that's just it's just bullshit.
It's an inappropriate or unjustified use of power.
And that Latisha King or whatever her name is, James, Latisha, Latisha, she's a piece of shit.
Yeah. Did you see the the press conference she held after that where she was just very straight?
And I was just like, she can't hold in her glee, glee.
The word is trying. But they probably told her, do not go up there smiling because she tried so hard to keep that stone face.
But, you know, inside, she just wanted to get out there with the biggest smile because they want.
Yeah, we got them. Yeah. Her and this crooked judge.
But they they didn't get him because it's going to go to the next appeal.
I read a headline. I don't know if this is true. This is what I mentioned earlier.
I read something that this doesn't make sense to me.
But the headline says he has to pay that fine before he can appeal.
Yeah. So he put up a four hundred million dollar bond today.
Four hundred million dollar bond so that he could appeal. Right.
So he had to pay that in order to appeal. He did today.
So he did it. Suck a dick.
Yeah. I mean, you know what?
That that says a lot. He's got we started a go fund me.
Did he? Yes. They didn't shut it down.
It made eighty four thousand in like twenty four hours.
It was a go fund me. I don't know if he did it or I don't know who did it.
But it was a go fund me to cover the three hundred and some million.
I don't know. That's a major joke. And then he releases tennis shoes.
Did you hear about this? Yes, he kills his own.
What is that all about? Four hundred bucks a pair.
They're gold. They're gold high tops.
They have a tee on one side and forty five on the other.
What? And then he unveils this at a sneaker.
I wonder what the hell that was. Yeah.
He unveils this at a sneaker conference.
I'd wear those just to piss people off.
Four hundred bucks. I wonder if it's real gold.
President Trump's official official two lines made in China.
Of course. Of course. What?
MSNBC was jumping on that. Oh, that's what's made in China.
You're not supposed to make stuff in China. Oh, my gosh.
Really? Yes. He made China. They're calling it out.
Whatever. All of them are made in China.
Well, everything is made in fucking China. They're all made by the Uyghurs.
Go in your house. The Uyghurs. Oh, yeah.
So his shoes were sold out already.
That's what it says. But sneakerhead, the head to tacky and very, very dumb.
Never surrender gold shoe tacky and very, very dumb.
That's what sneakerhead says.
Oh, shut up. Oh, oh. And did you see you seen some of the sneakers out there?
They're calling that tacky and dumb. Yeah. Shut the front door. Exactly.
So they came out today with they ranked all the presidents, the scholars, scholars.
These are these are like, first of all, tell us what they rank.
Biden, 14th. Yeah.
First of all, how many have there been? How many presidents?
Forty six. Oh, thank you. Forty six.
So out of forty six, Donald Trump dead last.
And Joe Biden is 14th. Right. Ahead of Reagan, I think.
Yeah, yeah. Yeah. I mean, and these are supposed to.
This is not a this is not a how could you possibly take them serious?
This is not a public ridiculous. This is not a public public voting popularity
contest. This is supposed to be based on scholars, presidential scholars
that talk about the state of the country during those during his presidency.
And I mean, you talk about having zero credibility when you release something
like this, where Trump is literally the worst president.
All right. Scroll up. Yeah, that's bullshit.
It's a total bullshit. So look at Biden.
It's ridiculous. Biden is over Reagan.
He's over Grant. George W.
Bush. He's over Bush.
Over Taylor. Joke.
Carter is 22. Carter's 22.
How did Carter get to 22? Carter has to be one of the worst ones.
That tells you these are Democrat Democrat hacks. Yep. Right here. Yep.
Carter. Really? They don't know.
They're just absolute ignorant. I mean, they either they're whatever.
What's the next topic? OK, I got another funny one.
The president's day was yesterday. OK.
Yeah, this was great.
And so the Democratic Party, the Democrat Party sent out a tweet
honoring Democrat presidents that are still alive.
OK, that's Carter and Clinton.
It is Clinton, Obama. Oh, yeah.
Obama Clinton, Obama, there's four.
Clinton, Obama, Biden, Biden and Carter.
But in the tweet, it was Obama, Clinton and and and Biden.
No, Carter. Really? And so this guy is great.
It was it's from a tweet from gay patriot.
So I don't know what I mean. Right.
I don't know who this do is, but he's like he goes, I guess he goes,
I guess rest in peace, President Carter.
And they're like, oops, they forgot Carter.
They forgot him. What an idiot.
And so they and so they they they pulled it.
They pulled it down because, yeah, whoever sent it out screen grab.
Yeah. Whoever sent it out totally forgot about Carter still being alive.
But I thought the tweet was perfect. I guess rest in peace, Carter.
Oh, my God. So funny.
People running these social media, they need to do so many companies
and famous people get screwed because the people running their social media
are morons or they're typically young.
I know they're too young.
I think that there there there needs to be levels of wisdom.
And, you know, the young people can be good.
A lot of things.
Well, that's not one of them, you know.
Yeah, you have to have a level of wisdom.
You have to have a level of experience to be able to do some of these.
Yeah. Should I tweet this? Yeah, probably not.
Yeah. I mean, it's kind of like you do.
All you have to do is ask Chet GPT who are the living who are the living
Democrat presidents right now? Yeah.
Right. Five seconds.
Not even that long. Oh, Lord.
Not even. Yeah.
It's a it's a crazy first half.
We've got a crazy second half lined up.
We've got lots of fantastic of topics to talk about.
We've got a whole lineup.
Yeah. A little sheet here.
We've got a top 10 list that's popping up.
Well, I want to get top 10. I want to talk about that.
I want to discuss my flight. Oh, yes.
You need to.
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