Did he just say that?
He did.
We have a gazillion things.
It shows bourbon.
Right.
Things you can cut back on if you're squeezing the budget.
Bourbon is not one of them.
Snacks.
Maybe some elk trips.
You could grow a garden and grow your own vegetables.
Oh, there you go.
That's a great idea.
Yeah.
You know what, we should write how to survive in this difficult economy.
Top ten.
Grow your own vegetables.
That's got to be number one.
Ride a bicycle, sell your cars.
Sell your cars and ride a bicycle.
Good, yes.
A used bicycle.
Or just walk.
Walk.
That's even better.
Yeah.
Shaun walked here today.
He didn't need a car.
Yeah.
He could grab a battery powered tricycle.
You could walk to Kroger and back.
Sell your house and stay with a friend.
Well, we went through one-twelfth of the year already, 30 days into January 30th today.
We have lined up.
Paul did some fantastic research today using the Chet GPT.
Right?
Is that right?
No, I used my own brain.
Oh, thanks, Shaun.
Yes, I did.
I used AI.
So we're excited.
We're going to bring in some of the topics and Paul will probably lead us into that.
Welcome to Dudes Like Us.
Thank you, Mr. Producer.
Mr. Austin, I am Shaun.
I'm Paul.
And I am Jeff.
And I just took a pool with that bourbon.
We're not going to talk about it now, but that's really good.
It is.
We're excited to talk about that later.
It is really good.
Yes.
And it's surprisingly good.
Yes.
I mean, because the first time we tried this, a variation of this, we were like, this is
nuclear and I think my balls just fell off.
Before your pallets, before your pallet had been conditioned.
Before we ruined and wrecked our pallets.
Yes.
Back when you were virgins.
Yes, we were a high proof verge.
1980s.
The prostitute.
The verge.
Really?
The hymen was not yet broken.
Wow.
Nobody heard that.
Yeah.
We're like 45 seconds into the podcast and all of us have said something inappropriate.
Wow.
That's us.
That's the way it goes.
All right.
Well, so dudes like us, we've got cool things going on.
Paul, you have some traditional things that dudes like us go through in life where you're
kind of hopping from one job to the other.
Do you feel comfortable chatting about that?
Yeah.
No.
I mean, I was laid off from my last permanent gig and I was very fortunate to land a four
month contract with another company and it's been a great experience, but they can't bring
me on full time and that ends tomorrow.
So I am technically.
Retired.
I was going to say unemployed.
I'm a bus driver tomorrow.
But I'm there.
Anyway, we'll join you.
We'll see.
I would too if I could make enough money.
Oh gosh.
I need to get that crunched numbers because I'm seriously on the edge.
I mean, you hear about people that have like they get family money.
You know what I mean?
Like somebody passes away and they get family money and then they like, you don't want your
family to die.
No, no, you don't.
But now I can't wait for my parents to die.
No, it's nothing like that.
But what I mean is that something like that happens and they yeah, they have the means
to downscale or what do you call it?
Yeah, that'd be nice.
Simplify to do something different.
Or you come in the money some matter, whether it's you made a really good investment.
Right.
Or you win a lottery or like you said, you pay off a chunk of bills where it takes away
from your monthly output.
You know, right.
And so you've been in a job where you're just unfulfilled and you're stressed out and you're
just looking at quality of life.
Right.
This point, not a good balance.
So some people I was I was kind of driving with you because you.
So you have hopped constructively from a couple of different jobs in the last 10 years.
Isn't it crazy?
So I'm kind of the question I pose on you is I know that you have to leave amicably
and you don't want to burn any bridges.
However, do you find sometimes that on the way out, the bird?
Yeah, not necessarily to the general company, but you know, just kind of send a just a dig
email to somebody like, oh, by the way, Paul or Sam or Pat, whatever your names are made
all those names up.
No one knows.
Fuck you.
Right.
I meant to tell you that like six months ago and I just I couldn't because I really enjoyed
my job.
And now I just just fuck you.
God bless.
How good would that feel?
You know what?
I there's only probably one job that I was bitter about, you know, how it ended.
But it wasn't but but the whole team got laid off and then nobody to vent to.
It's just it's like executive decisions, right?
I mean, it's one thing if you had a boss is supposed to have your back and somehow they
backstabbed you and let you go.
Well, I've had some really bad bosses throughout my career, right?
Right.
And it goes through your brain at that point.
It's like, wow, if I get laid off, it'd be nice to tell this person to take this job
and shut it.
Yeah.
And then at some point in time, you're like, I want to leave on good grounds just in case.
Yeah, guys, we are in such a small world where everybody knows everybody or somebody's on
LinkedIn that knows somebody in LinkedIn and all it takes is one person.
It's an ideal job for you.
And they and right.
And you know, let's say you worked at, you know, ABC Company and somebody is like, oh,
I know somebody that works at ABC.
And they're going to hire you, right?
They're interviewing you.
And then they go reach out to that guy and they go, oh, no, don't hire.
Do not hire that guy.
You're not allowed to do that.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, well, that happens.
All the way.
Well, I'm just saying they're not allowed to do that.
Yeah, well, I mean, you have to know the person directly.
But HR departments, they're just supposed to say either they're hireable or unhire rehireable.
So usually, well, if you give reference, I'm not talking about HR teams.
I'm talking about they just go to LinkedIn and it's somebody that they know that company.
Yeah.
Hey, I'm like, like if I was hiring someone, I was like, oh, I know somebody over here
and Paul's old company.
Let me go call Paul.
Hey, what do you know about so and so?
Paul's a good worker, but he kept stealing lunches out of the refrigerator.
There we go.
I mean, no, I mean, you joke.
But I mean, people have contacted me and they'll go, yeah, we just got, you know, a resume
from this guy and you worked with him, right, at that company.
And what do you think?
I mean, these are friends of mine, right?
And all I say is, and they go, OK, thank you.
And I do that because it was somebody we struggled with.
Like, either put them on a performance plan or we or they were just lazy and like we were
frustrated with their work ethics.
What does that mean?
You know, you and you got to you.
You know, I don't want this.
My friend at the new company, I don't want them to have to deal with that.
Right.
But you admit my wife mentioned the acronym PIP and you mentioned it the other day.
And that's got to be some sort of performance plan.
What does that mean?
Performance Improvement Plan.
PIP.
That's basically a precursor to getting let go.
Yeah.
They hire you out right.
So they typically they can't.
I know you were saying right to work state.
They can.
But HR teams are conditioned to say, no, we can't just do that because you know, you got
to put them on a plan and they have to.
I'm sure there are circumstances that if you get proven that you're being unethical or
you're stealing your ship like that, you can do that.
But if there are some that are automatic terminated.
If it's just performance based, I think you do have to kind of work through that.
Yeah.
You got to give them a chance to fix it.
Right.
And let's be honest, well, I mean, from a financial standpoint, the last thing you really
want to do is spend the money to retrain somebody else.
It costs less to rehab somebody and make them a better employee than it does to go harvest
another one from the tree and have to spend months and months programing.
That's true.
And the other thing I'll say is most this is going to be kind of maybe an arrogant statement.
There's a lot of managers out there that don't do it right.
You know what I mean?
They're not proactive about managing their people.
They wait until, you know, they don't want to they're not nonconvertational maybe and
they don't want to bring it up and then they do a review and these people are always surprised.
You know how there should be no surprises.
There should be no surprises.
You should have a discussion immediately every week, every two weeks.
Correct.
I have one on ones with my people and when I have a concern or if I see something, we'll
talk about it.
Right.
So my thing is, and I expect them to do that with their team.
I tell them I was like, I was like, hopefully nothing we talk about at the end of the year
is new.
Right.
If it is, that's my comment coming out of left field.
Yeah.
And if it is, that's my fault.
Right.
But, you know, did I cover everything and, you know, and we talk about it and whatever.
Right.
So that's good.
That's the way it should be.
Yes.
Because then you give them a chance to correct immediately and you give them a chance to,
instead of being butthurt and, you know, emotionally divested after a shitty review that came out
of left field that you say.
Sometimes it's not even shitty.
Right.
So if they're consistently a high performer and all of a sudden they have an off year.
Right.
And now you're, it meets expectations is not a bad review.
It's a, this is what 90% of everyone gets.
But they're not used to that.
So.
Because it usually ties to a certain level of raise.
Correct.
So you, even though the person that you're reviewing is not doing poor, you're not below
or anything.
Yeah, you're not going to fire them or want to fire them.
They're not at the level they were the previous years.
Right.
You still have to prepare them for that and tell them, just, you know, throughout the year,
hey, I've noticed this.
You've really dropped off.
Well, yeah.
I'll phrase a little bit differently that, but yeah, I've never seen anybody suck that
much from the previous year to this year.
Right.
So, you know, it's, it's, it is.
And I think I've been lucky.
I've never had any real problematic people reporting to me.
They were just terrible.
I've never, I've never really, I've always had, I guess I've been lucky.
Right.
And I've inherited really good people.
And I guess I hired the right folks at the right time.
Right.
Well, and I, and I, I learned by making mistakes.
We all do.
Right.
About all throughout life.
I mean, terrible.
Yeah, yeah.
All throughout life, we learned from making mistakes.
Right.
And one of them was, you know, me being non confrontational, not wanting to bring it up.
And then I was trading the review because I had to give them a needs improvement.
And they were like, what?
And I was like, oh my God, I suck.
And, you know, as a manager.
Well, it's still difficult.
It should be a difficult thing.
Even if it's, I mean, if it's, it's a meets and they're expecting this, it's still difficult
because you know what they're expecting.
Oh yeah.
And when they don't get it, there's still a, you know, just like when I get a meets, you
know, that's happened.
Right.
More than once.
And I'm still disappointed in myself.
I'm like, okay, what could I have done differently?
Right.
But I've had so many managers.
I've had 12 managers in the 15 years I've been there.
And it's in my belief that they have no idea what I do.
So they have to put a meets on there.
And that drives me nuts.
Well, what's really a tragedy is the, the directors, the, the VPs and the directors will
go to the managers and they'll say, uh, okay, we're allowed to have, um, only 4% exceeds.
Correct.
We're allowed to have, you know, this many.
Well, that's HR telling the leadership.
Oh yeah, they're, they're telling you what you have to, you know, squeeze, just correct
it.
Oh shit.
Pigeon hole people into.
Right.
And so you're like, Oh crap, I've got a really strong staff.
I've got like a bunch of ass kickers that have been there forever.
Right.
And so they're all exceeds.
Right.
But I can only out of eight of them, I can only pick two of them because statistically
that's, that's impossible.
Well, no, it's not.
Right.
Cause my, my team is that good.
Yeah.
Because we've vetted them and they've been all there for 10 plus years.
Right.
And so we don't, the only two can be exceeds.
And it's like, okay.
Yeah.
Jeff, I was going to say Jeff's company, he's kind of like in a unique position, which sucky
unique position.
I think a lot of the performance guys that are acting so good chronically and he works
with a really good team is, is because the company has the, and there's a lot of companies
out there.
They got their thumb on you.
They're, they're constantly pushing you.
They work you with the skeleton crew and if they don't, they're constantly cutting.
So if you're constantly in fear of being laid off, you know, I mean that's, that's part of
it and it kind of sucks and nobody, nobody likes to work under those conditions.
It's not always, you know, and I, I thankfully haven't, I've only worked like that when I
was working for myself as a, I did the entertainment stuff, DJing, hosting karaoke shows.
I kind of felt like that a little bit.
I always felt the stress of my show's gotta be good.
I gotta make sure that I'm on no mistakes.
Otherwise they won't renew your contract or whatever.
Because you know, I won't be back next week and I gotta provide for my family and you
got that stress that's going on.
Nobody likes that.
Everyone likes the comfort of feeling that warm and soft, fuzzy feeling that, you know,
I got a good job, but you know, I think part of being a grownup and part of maturing, both
personally and professionally is hitting these walls where you do fuck up or you do learn
from these experiences.
I think you have to.
I think unfortunately, yeah, you really do.
We're humans.
We go through emotional periods where we are burned out or we just, we're not feeling it.
And it affects your attitude.
And you may spout out at somebody and you might say something that you wouldn't normally
say be like, Oh fuck.
You know, does that mean that's going to change the trajectory of my career plan because I
had a bad moment?
They call that career limiting.
Career limiting, it's got a term.
Yes, it has a term.
If somebody in a meeting that pops off when there was a VP or two of VP and they're like,
yeah, that was career limiting because that person is never going to approve a promotion
for that person.
Right.
It's a real thing.
It does happen.
Yeah.
And I try to keep that in mind.
And that's actually a lot of the discussions I have as people I see their, their, their
perform up here, but there's three, four months of just lulls or lulls.
So yeah, they weren't on top of stuff.
You had to ask them three times.
Did you do that?
And then we talk about it and then, you know, I, the guys that have worked for me have worked
for me for a decade.
So we're very good friends, family, and you know, their personal and I know them.
So we talk about personal things.
Yeah.
Some of them are going through a divorce or some of them are going through this and you
know, and then a lot of, a lot of, you know, I don't know if a lot of managers do this,
but I've always offered myself to everyone that's worked with me.
I was like, if you ever need to talk about something, have to do with work or not having
to do with work.
Yeah.
Come to me.
We'll go into a room.
Now it's online.
I'm at work or home and we'll talk about it.
That's cool.
So, and I think it's listening to the podcast.
I mean, we, I mean, we solve all sorts of problems.
Right.
And I've had several take me up on it.
Right.
And not that they're asking for advice or anything like that, but it's more of a vent.
It is going out, out of work.
Yeah.
It's a place where somebody who they work with or work for can give them constructive
advice.
Right.
So I've always provided that.
And I think that the people that, like I said, report directly to me know that and have the
ability to say, this is what's going on.
This is why if I bring it up and says, Hey, what's going on?
They'll tell me that's a trust.
Right.
That's a good trust thing.
So many people don't trust their management.
So I applaud you for that.
Cool.
I try.
I don't know if I'm doing it right or wrong.
Are you going to lay them all off next week or no?
No.
Oh, okay.
No.
Well, that's the other thing when they're told you, you have to lay off a 10% of your
staff.
Oh yeah.
Pick them.
I've had to do that too.
Yeah.
I mean, that's a lot of fun.
That's terrible.
Repeating.
I mean, I've seen you do it several times.
Yeah.
It's like, yeah, you got thin out your group.
You got to do it again.
You know what it reminds me of?
And what's interesting, it's like when you go through the first round of cuts, you cut
the lower performers.
Correct.
Right?
You stack rank.
Right.
Exactly.
And then you go through the second one and it's like, you might have somebody who's on
the fringe, but if you go through a third, every single one of them is a high performer.
How do you... That is the shittiest.
I've actually had to go through that where I remember living in Germany and we were leaving
Germany back to the United States and I had a box full of toys.
And my dad says, hey, you need to take some of those toys because we can't take them all
back to the United States.
So you need to cut a few.
You stack rank them and let them go.
I removed... That is completely relevant.
I removed Select and I discard them like, hey, look, I'm not going to use these.
I'm going to get rid of those.
He takes the box, dumps it back out on the bed.
He says, do it again.
Oh.
And I did it again and he says, do it again.
So you were allowed like one?
Well, I mean, it was a three cubic foot box.
So the point is... God, that's so mean.
But it kind of taught me early... To call your shit.
Yeah, don't get attached to anything.
I have to do a quick inventory.
I got to assess what's important, what's not.
I got to really feel it out.
It's completely different from what I'm talking about with Jeff, but yet it strikes a chord
with me.
And that was when you were four, right?
I was ten.
Did you have a one-on-one talk with each one and say, this is why?
Yeah, listen, you're not terrible.
It was like, hey, you got a friend in me.
You remember that?
We were singing it together.
Did you pull your sister in to be the HR department?
You just read a prepared statement, then you leave and she covers the roster.
Oh yeah, exactly.
Sorry.
Yeah, your stuffing's coming out.
You're not durable.
You're out.
That inclusive, exclusive diversity program.
Sorry, you got to go.
That's just totally the way it is now.
That's the way it was for my last company.
And I was laughing because I knew everything.
There's no surprises, right?
They're like, out of the blue, this guy that I've never talked to in management wants to
have a meeting with me.
And then of course, I see another person on the call.
I'm like, oh, here we go.
And I'll say, I'll just make it easy for you.
I was like, you don't have to stay on.
He was like, OK.
And he went off.
And then I started talking to the HR person and she was like, thank you so much for your
professionalism.
I was like, whatever.
I've been through this so many times.
So yeah, don't worry about it.
Probably not a good thing to say, I'm thinking.
No, it is because I've been laid off so many times.
Right?
Right.
I can't believe you hired me.
Everybody else is laying me off.
Right.
No, I mean, it's all circumstantial.
Yeah, but the big picture here for you specifically is now you're you're you're you're on the
hunt again.
And these are things that dudes like us out there have to do.
I mean, you got to find your path in life, even at our age or at younger ages like Mr.
Austin, our producers age.
They got to they got to find the path.
And it is hard.
And I feel bad for the younger folk out there because fuck what it's just tough.
Yeah.
It seems harder now than it was when we were teenagers.
I think so.
Only because it's a softer market right now.
It goes like this.
Yeah.
Right now.
I didn't get I didn't get my first real job until I was 30.
Well, you know, you bring up an interesting thing because I'm going to have this conversation
with my middle one who's graduating from college because the first job you get and basically
every job you get from that point, but the very first job you get your attitude when
you if there's any young listeners, the attitude you're supposed to have when you go into that
first job is you're starting your list of getting to know people who know that you kick
ass.
That's it.
This is called it another.
It's another way of thinking about networking.
Right.
OK.
But you are literally starting to build your list.
You want to meet as many people as you can and convince them that you kick ass.
Start your list.
Then you're going to meet people and then you want to start asking questions about what
they do in their departments because they don't know what they want to do at that age.
They don't even know what's out there unless you've been like an amazing parent and you
took them to all these, you know, different things to expose them.
What's out there in life?
If you haven't, that's really what they need to do is start building that list.
And then when they go to the next company, they continue that list.
Right.
Keep so so that you now have a group of people that you can draw from and they all think
you kick ass.
You know what I mean?
And of course, you have to kick ass.
Yeah.
So it's a roadmap.
That has to be your motivation going into these very first jobs that you have.
And you've got to imagine it's going to be part of your resume for an extended period.
Absolutely.
And you want it to be.
Yeah.
You want people to you want people to refer to that that era and be like, yeah, I kicked
ass.
Yeah, I took that.
I'm at the point where I'm starting to leave stuff off there at the very beginning.
Oh, on the resume.
Oh, I think we're supposed to do if it's back.
If it's like your your lap dancing era.
Yeah.
The ball dancing.
Yeah.
On a cruise ship.
Yeah.
They had a little bear cruise ship.
I thought about I thought about applying when I was fresh out of college.
There are some jobs I was going to post for one of them was going to be on a cruise ship.
Yeah.
Working their concert hall.
Right.
Apply to run their sound and everything.
Cool.
And I also applied for the audio producer for the is the Army, the Air Force Band.
OK.
So I drove from Cincinnati to Washington, D.C.
I made the cut.
I got in person.
So I drove out there and went to Andrew's at the Andrew's base out there.
Anyway, the base out there in Washington, D.C.
Yeah.
I had two days of interviews and if I would have got it, there were over 500 applicants.
Wow.
I came in third.
He told me and I didn't get it.
Thankfully, not thankfully, but otherwise I would have had to have enlisted to go on
a boot camp and joined the I think it was the Army or the Army, the Army, the Air Force.
Just to be the sound guy of the band.
Correct.
And he goes, he goes, you will you will go through boot camp.
But as you're going through that, you'll have to remember the day you graduate, you will
outrank your drill and structure.
Damn.
As a sound guy.
Yes.
That's crazy.
Because I would have traveled the world with them.
Right.
Yeah.
I think what a different life you would have had.
Yeah.
I think it would have been an awesome choice.
I think the military for some people is a great choice.
You know, it's the getting you know, it's the post military school benefits.
Because during the military, if you whatever trade you're looking to get into, they kind
of cater to that.
It's kind of like, all right, what if I want to choose into sound engineering?
I'm going to put you in with the the band.
If you want to do great, whatever the fuck you want, you want to be a plumber, they'll
put you in somewhere else.
And they'll be constructive with it.
I think it's good.
They try to give you career experience.
They do big concerts worldwide.
The band, right?
Would you have enjoyed that traveling the world?
Oh, yeah.
I was 22.
Right.
I had no attachments.
I know you weren't afraid of just taking chances because you just moved from.
Oh, yeah.
That was before I moved down here.
I know.
But you moved from Cleveland.
No, no, Cincinnati to Dallas and knew nobody.
No, nobody.
Didn't have a job.
Nothing.
So I mean, yeah, you would have been perfect to go.
So, yeah.
So I was I was all in, you know, and, you know, it didn't didn't work out.
And, you know, thankfully, worked out down here.
Right.
So I've got the family and the kids.
That's strange how things work.
It's amazing.
Simple, little, tiny decisions.
You know, you see in the movies, like they make one little choice in their whole life.
The butterfly effect.
Yeah, kind of.
The whole life is different.
And it's true.
Right.
One one little decision completely changes what what you know, what could have happened.
Yeah, it could have been like, you know, between co-idol and a blowjob, you know.
Similar.
Yeah, what's weird is that weird.
But the interview, like I said, was on the base.
I was by myself.
I was 22.
And I was wearing back then you were a suit and tie.
Yeah.
All your interviews.
I don't know if you have to do that today.
I still would.
They don't.
Yeah.
So like Peter's in a thong.
So I had to show up.
I had to go to the base and check in and everything.
And I was being interviewed by some officer and he was in his fatigues or whatever you
call them.
And he was he was fairly laid back, though.
So he wasn't real hardcore regimented military.
You say, sir.
Yes, sir.
What I'm talking to you.
Right.
So and we just talked about experience, knowledge, you know, the typical interview stuff.
The next day was more of the technical stuff.
Right.
So we went out to the band practice area, the big boards and really good equipment.
Five hundred applicants.
Yeah.
What what a pain in the ass to go through that.
Yeah.
I'm sure not all of them were interviewed.
Right.
They didn't make the first thing.
So I don't know how many he interviewed, but he said he when he called me to tell me, he
goes, you came in third.
That's what I let you know.
He goes, you did great this.
But the other person was just whatever.
So you're the second best loser.
The other person had a second best really, really soft chin.
Could be.
Wow.
But to agree.
That would have been a whole other with the hands.
That would have been a whole other trajectory.
Did you trim your fingernails?
They come down.
They were a little abrasion.
They were a little untrimmed.
Oh, God.
But it's weird.
You know, I didn't do it.
The different trajectories our lives take.
Right.
Oh, yeah.
No, it's huge.
I mean, yeah, you would not have met your wife.
You wouldn't have the kids you have.
You would not have had the career that you did.
I mean, Jeff and I would be doing the I mean, the Paul and I be doing the podcast by ourselves.
That's right.
Yeah.
Actually, just me.
It would be the Paul show.
Oh, just like Joe Rogan.
I would be the producer.
Did you see did you see the latest from Joe Rogan where he's essentially come out saying
gay?
No, he's not gay.
But he said that he used to be the hardcore lib.
Yeah, I saw Joe Rogan.
Joe Rogan.
He goes, I was I was there.
I lived in the light.
I was I lived in that Democrat bubble in California.
He goes and they took it too far.
And he's like, I'm not a conservative, but you have a lot of them can't step outside
the bubble.
They don't see it.
Well, he did.
He sees the crazy.
And he said it.
You know, the other person is that Mar guy.
Bill Mar.
He's still he's he's your traditional Democrat.
But he's but Bill Mar in the crazy.
He had a well, he sees the crazy.
He's a no more had a one of the shows this past week with Chuck, not Chuck Schumer, but
what's pencil neck?
Adam Shiff, Adam Shiff is Adam.
Well, first of all, Mr. Pruce pulled up Rogan here real quick.
See if we can put that little clip on.
So that was Bobby.
Bobby Lee with Joe Rogan on there.
Bobby Lee is part of the the the Bad Friends podcast.
He's also on the TV show Bagnum P.I.
Who Bobby Lee?
Yes.
Bobby Lee's been in a bunch of stuff.
He's a he's a C rate.
Coming up to the B as far as entertainers go.
There you go.
He's very oily looking.
Yeah.
Oily.
Yeah.
He's the guy that's got his painted fingernails all over.
I mean, he's a funny guy.
He's hilarious.
I mean, I've seen him on a bunch of different interviews.
Well, he's successful enough to be on the Joe Rogan show.
Oh, yeah.
Damn.
He's a comedian, too.
Right.
And he was on what is SNL.
But what is the other one that was a competitive?
It was SCTV in Canada.
No, dude.
Those were like the 80s.
Was it the one with Jim Carrey in it?
Yeah.
In Love and Color.
Yeah.
In Love and Color.
He was a so Bobby Lee was in Love and Color.
What did you say?
SCTV.
You remember that one?
What?
What is that?
Did we just show our age?
I've never even heard of it.
SCTV.
I was like, I haven't even heard that forever.
That's the Canadian version of Saturday Night Live.
Yeah.
Yeah, right there.
Speaking of Saturday Night Live, you see how they're getting torn up for the debanking?
Oh, yeah.
You know what?
Those are the writers.
Those come on.
And you know what?
It doesn't matter.
If I'm going to say so bad.
It is bad.
It just shows their ignorance.
Ignorance.
Incredible ignorance.
And how desperate they are to trash Trump.
Yeah.
They can throw anything and everything they can throw at him.
Anything.
And it's just nonstop.
You guys had mentioned something I didn't hear about.
You said the Trump, someone took him to court and they won where he's got to pay $88.3 million.
Yeah, 30 years ago.
Because she looked at it.
Because he looked at somebody in a sexually taunting manner.
No.
So apparently they had, I mean, he denies it.
But she said that they were, during the day, the two of them were in a dressing room.
And it was, I guess, consensual that they went into the dressing room.
But he sexually assaulted her.
Which he denies.
But what does that mean?
That's kind of like, what is a gun?
The automatic gun.
Right.
Well, but here's the interesting thing.
The statute of limitations ran out for declaring, for rape.
This is a civil case.
So, yeah.
So she was claiming defamation.
How did he defame her?
Because he was saying, she was saying he raped me and he was going, you're crazy, I don't
even know who you are.
And she was like, oh, he defamed me and now I've lost my, I'm 71 years old and I lost
my TV show, my column.
So I guess the next question is why in the fuck would a judge allow her to be granted
that?
And a jury.
Because it's in New York City.
It's New York City.
Left, a leftist jury, leftist judge, leftist everything.
Trump's not going to win in any scenario like that.
No, no, no.
And he, by the way, he has three or four more of these lined up.
So they're just going to constantly berate him.
Correct.
They're throwing everything they can at him to keep him from running.
But he's going to run and he's going to win.
So I mean, it doesn't matter what they do.
Yeah.
So.
Can he, well, let's say he gets president, he can just.
Yeah, he can, right?
Not for civil cases.
Well, I don't know.
I don't think not for a civil case.
Man, the, we were talking about this in the, in the, the green room, blue room, green
room.
What the fuck is a green room?
Is it a green room?
Uh, that, you know, she's a nutcase.
I mean, I was talking about, I want to, you brought about a couple of interviews.
I've seen her on one.
There was the Cooper Anderson show where she was talking about rape.
She's a, she's a nut job.
In fact, she was so nutty that Cooper and it's most kind of, eh, we're going to go to
emerge.
We're going to go to a commercial break real quick.
And Mr. Produce, what is her name?
E Jean Carroll.
I believe E Jean Carroll and Cooper Anderson.
See if you can pull that up.
But the latest thing is she was just talking about, you know, not talking about, yeah,
I was so hurt and I was so devastated.
She was like, this is like a good win.
You know, this is like, you know, we were, we're getting Trump.
You know what I mean?
It was just so obvious.
It was a political hack job.
Yeah.
He's like, uh, yeah, cause he, let me right back.
Yeah.
Because he's hoping, he's hoping they have somebody on, on that is going to like put
a nail in the Trump coffin.
Right.
And he's like, Oh my God, this is a nut job.
This, uh, she just glamorized.
Yeah.
But she won.
She won because you know, it's a leftist judge and a leftist jury and, and it's total
bullshit, man.
Yeah, it is.
And there's more coming.
More of that stuff coming.
I tell you what's bullshit.
It's uh, my attitude towards Jack Daniel's single barrel barrel proof.
Like three years ago, we bought a bottle.
What is it like a 350 milliliter?
Yeah, it's a small one.
It's like, yeah, 375, whatever it is.
Uh, we bought that bottle.
We brought it over to your house, I believe.
Uh, and we were like, we were doing shots of it and we're like, Oh my God, I just drink
gasoline.
And we put it in the cabinet up here and there it sat and now, yeah, then we're presented
with, Oh, you guys need to try this.
Yeah, we're at Total Wine and we were talking to Stan and Kevin and, and uh, so they, they
suggested we drink this.
So we get the bottle, we get it.
It's a, it, this one right here, hold on here.
The, um, the Total Wine version, the Jack Daniel's just a single barrel, barrel proof.
It's a store pick from Total Wine.
So when you, when you drink this, uh, for me, you know, this Tennessee medium, uh, slightly
oily body, sweet with slightly astringent, uh, follow on the palate.
It's oak cocoa and then pepper developing and it's causing your tongue to tingle around
the edges pleasantly.
And it's a nice mixture of light dry stone fruits and a medium dry, uh, finished with
a tingling rye on the tongue.
Did you add stone fruits?
No, that's just off the top of his head.
Come on.
I've been practicing that all day.
Oh yeah.
Yeah.
Uh, and it packs a punch.
It's only $1,225.
It does.
It is super sweet.
It was Jack Daniel's.
It's Jack Daniel's proof, man.
Oh man, this is wonderful.
I've been sitting here contemplating on what I'm going to rank this and I'm like, surely
I can't rank this an eight, but I think, I think I'm going to rank this an eight.
It's really good.
I'm not going to, I'm not going to lie.
Yeah.
It's got a lot of your standard Jack Daniel flavors.
It's just more intense because of the proof.
Right.
Those flavors pop.
Oh yeah.
They're so poppy, you know, it's not oily like a glove, like a Petrus McOily.
It's now it just has a little viscous.
What is the word?
A viscosity.
A viscosity of it.
Yeah.
It's got a little legs going on.
What kind of legs?
I would say that it's a store pick, but is every single barrel a non-store pick or non-
No.
Yeah.
Does it have that proof?
No.
Each single barrel is going to be different.
Yeah, that's true.
So this one-
So this one happens to me.
But you had another bottle.
What was the proof of the other bottle?
That was 129.
See, the single barrels range from 125 to 140.
Oh, okay.
So they're all, you know, that was my question.
So they're all going to be powerful.
Okay.
Oh yeah.
They're all going to be-
This specific one is 130.3, I believe.
Oh damn.
I believe so.
Mr. Producer, can you verify that?
No, no, no.
The one we have is 125.5.
One, 20, 125.
I thought he was counting.
It's 125.5.
Oh, so we're at the low end.
What a waste.
Toss it.
Yeah, 125.5?
Yeah, yeah.
No, I spit it out.
Yeah.
It's not worth ingesting.
I spit it out.
Bullshit.
All three of us were like-
Yeah, I took the first sip when I sat down and it was really good.
It's really good.
There's a lot of, at least for me, there's a lot of, I don't know if you call it tea
or tobacco or something on the finish for me.
Yeah, it does.
You're right.
You nailed it.
Well, you know what?
Let me have another pool.
There you go.
And I'll see what's in there.
Yeah, it's got a little hint of a sweet tobacco on the backside of it.
Like a little bit of Red Man.
Red Man.
Little chew.
Man, it's good.
And dudes like us rate this one high.
I don't know where you guys stand on this, but I'm sticking with my eight.
What do you, what say you?
I'm going to go with eight one or eight two.
Eight two.
I was going to go, and I'm not trying to be a contra-narian or contra-arian.
Contrarian.
I was going to go with a seven seven.
That's really high though.
That's really high.
I think you're very high for fucking going that low.
What is going on over there?
Well, this is when you give Eagle Rare a three.
I'm still.
I gave it a four.
Well, no.
It was a two, it's a 2.8 there.
We rounded it up.
And I went, I went up to 4.9.
So I'm still bitter about that rating.
So I'm, and you seem to be excited about this one.
Here's your changes to a four.
So I'm, yeah, I'm thinking a seven four now.
Yeah, we're dropping the high, we're dropping the low, so I got mine.
Yeah, it's good.
It's really, it's a, I highly recommend.
Yeah, this is, this is a tasty one.
Again, this is ours is a store pick, so it's a, we have the, we still have the three seven five out there.
We'll taste that.
We'll give a little sample.
Just a little sample to compare to this.
Do you want to try this?
And we'll dump the rest in the infinity bottle.
Okay.
That sounds like a plan.
All right.
Sounds like a really good plan.
And I think this was, this was our first high proof bottle that we bought.
Okay.
And we thought it was horrible.
It's terrible, yes.
I thought it was great, but I was quiet about it.
Because I didn't want you guys to feel dumb.
I was like, God, what a bunch of.
It's like back in the day when you were in college and you went to do wild turkey shots and you would do a shot and it would just scratch the shit out of your throat.
But you felt like a man.
He was like, oh, it's good.
No, I didn't feel like a man.
And all the women were like, oh my God.
No, I didn't like him.
He's drinking bourbon straight.
Oh, look at him.
Oh.
The purpose back then was not to enjoy.
I want to have sex with him.
It was to get drunk.
This was the sole goal.
Let's do a shot.
Oh, wild turkey 101.
101, yes.
Kickin' chicken.
We had the Bacardi.
151.
That was 151.
151, which is even worse.
Why would anybody do that?
That's just, that makes no sense to me.
I did in college.
Like a shot of it?
Yeah, we do shots of it.
We played quarters with it.
That's like.
Which was a mistake.
Almost.
Everclear.
What is Everclear?
What's the proof of Everclear?
190, 190, 190, 190, 190, 190.
190, 190, 190, 190, 190.
Damn.
Yeah.
What would we rate that?
Zero.
Did you guys, I said.
That's a mixer for like Buffalo.
Zero.
Very Buffalo's or something.
Someone sent me a meme or I sent it to you or something.
It got circulated somewhere.
Some guy sampling Everclear.
Did you guys see that?
I haven't seen that, no.
No.
So this guy actually went through the process of sampling it.
Oh, God.
And he took the time.
You could argue that's the same thing as kind of moonshine, but go ahead.
Well, he took the time to really dig into it.
And he was just like, this is gut rot.
And his eyes were sucking into his skull.
I really, really took a noble effort to go through the processes.
And this is gut rot.
Don't do it.
You're an idiot.
Well, how was the nose?
The nose must have been fine.
It was like pure corn.
It's alcohol.
He's like, I no longer have hair.
Well, I remember we had it in college because one of my roommates was grandfathered in.
Plus he was in the military.
So he would buy this off the military liquor store.
And he'd come back.
And we had the cabinet full of booze.
So stop a second.
So when you say grandfathered in, a lot of dudes like us out there don't know what you're talking about.
I want you to say that.
Well, in Ohio, I'm sure it's happened in many states, but in Ohio where I lived at the time, right as I was about to turn 18, that was the legal drinking age.
Yeah.
In Ohio was 18.
Right.
So they decided we're going to move it to 21.
Yeah.
But there was a grandfather area in there that if your birthday...
Yeah, people were already drinking.
Yeah, but if, yeah, so if your birthday fell within this area, you were grandfathered in.
Right.
So if you're already 18 and drinking, you were grandfathered in and you could drink through 21.
Well, I wasn't 18 yet.
Can you imagine being one day before that date?
I wasn't very far.
Like you were literally 17 years, 300 in.
I was born at 11 p.m.
Seriously.
One hour.
Right.
So he was grandfathered in.
So he was 18 like the rest of us, but and he was in the military, National Guard.
So he was he'd go up there once a month and he'd come back with just shit.
He came back with Yukon Jack, Southern Comfort, 151.
Early times.
Southern Comfort is so nasty.
And just Montezuma's tequila, Montezuma's, which was terrible.
And then the Everclear.
Montezuma.
So the Everclear, the spirit of Everclear, well, it was to mix in with other stuff like
jungle juice.
Right.
And they would claim that you couldn't taste it.
You could definitely.
It was just harsh.
Well, I mean, yeah.
But when you got a bunch of if you have one of those igloo tall igloos with, you know,
you don't care what he wants.
You dump in a bunch of Hawaiian punched orange cranberry, whatever the fuck you fucking.
It tastes horrible.
Kool-Aid powder.
They're putting everything.
I was going to say the point is to get drunk.
You don't care what it tastes like.
You put fruit in it.
Yeah.
They take a little fruit.
Well, that's another thing.
They take like a they drill the top of a watermelon and they will take literally take the bottle
and stick it on top of the watermelon and let it but infuse down to the bottom and put
a little spot on the body.
One night I drank as normal, but I did several of those watermelon.
You don't eat the.
Well, you do eat the.
How was that?
Was that your first experience with the shaman?
It was no.
But it was watermelon infused vodka.
Oh my God.
That put it over the edge.
That stuff is dangerous.
Yeah, it is because it's good and you just eat it.
Yeah, you see it.
Yeah, it's like it's like, you know, you have a fruit a fruit tray.
You know what I mean?
Like, you know, you got the little tomatoes and the little toothpick.
Yeah, your little toothpick and take a little watermelon and and six of them later, you're
face down in the in the living room and everybody's going, oh my God, what's wrong with you?
That's about right.
Yeah, we call them Harry Buffalo's.
I'm sorry.
What?
Harry Buffalo.
Harry Buffalo's what?
That's what you call your jungle juice.
OK, so Harry Buffalo.
That's where we're not.
Oh, OK.
It's the regional.
That's not infused fruit.
That is no.
It was a big like a cooler.
Yeah.
Garbage can or whatever you used.
And you do what he said, right?
So you have all this booze dump a bunch of liquid and you let it sit there like all day
just so it soaks up.
And then everyone's going for the fruit.
That sounded so appealing back then.
But now when you think about it, it's like, oh, God, and the hangover.
Oh, yeah, all the sugar.
And you just get so drunk.
It's so quick.
Yeah.
And you're kind of like, what the fuck happened to me?
Why am I barfing?
You know, I haven't heard that word in a long time.
Barfing.
Yeah.
That's an old school word.
Yeah.
College was a whole other level, man, for I know this didn't happen to me, but this
happened to my sister.
She went to the same school I did.
And her and her roommate were boosers back then.
We all were, for that matter.
And she said her roommate was walking down the street, just down the main street there
in Athens, Ohio.
And it was cool out, so she had a jacket on and she had to puke.
But there are too many people around.
So she took her she puked in her sleeve.
Oh, come on.
That's what you do.
That's college right there.
Oh, that's disgusting.
Puking the sleeve.
In like in like in the inside of the sleeve.
Inside of the sleeve.
You pull your hand up to your to your mouth, widen your sleeve and throw up into your arm
basically.
Yes.
Instead of I have never I've never heard of that.
Hopefully I'll never have to think about that.
Oh my God, I need to be a puke.
That is not happening on any planet.
Yeah.
Well, I mean, what else are you going to do if you're going to throw up in front of in
front of people that aren't expecting you to throw up?
I mean, not that anybody would expect you to.
I was ill.
Sorry.
No, don't count.
Everyone has your destroyed.
You're like, I think I have a stomach bug.
I'm sorry.
I think that's all just painted.
I'm sorry.
I threw up all over you, but I have a stomach bug.
That barf smells very fragrant.
Stone fruit.
Yeah.
Like the buffalo hair.
We just.
Oh my God.
I was still stuck on that damn buffalo hair.
Is that what they call it?
Hairy Buffalo.
It's even worse.
It sounds like a big nut sack.
I mean, I don't even.
Yeah, I don't know.
I didn't make it up.
That's what that's what we called it.
Hairy Buffalo.
That's what we called it.
Trash can punch.
Right.
Yeah.
Well, that's not as fun.
Yeah.
Well, trash can punch.
I've heard that too, but yeah, yeah.
That's what we all call it.
I call it a jungle juice.
Jungle juice.
Yeah, we had a little song.
We made all sorts of mistakes back then, didn't we?
Yeah.
Well, you know, that's what you do.
That's what you do.
Yeah.
Getting your first job and learning all these different things and drinking.
Did you do the handstand keg drink?
I never did that.
Upside down.
I've done that.
And I didn't butt chug anything either.
I didn't do that.
Were they have, were they, what was that a jackass?
What the fuck?
You know what I'm talking about?
Butt chugging?
Yeah, yeah.
They have a funnel and they shove it up the behind.
I don't know.
I miss that movie.
I've never seen that.
It's in the movie Jackass, I thought.
I don't know.
I miss that.
They've had several versions and I've seen only parts of one of the Jackass movies.
I've seen like, I mean, the one was most disturbing is when he put a sock on his penis
and stuck and then dressed it up like a mouse and then stuck it into a cage where a mouse
would chew on it.
Okay.
Why?
The whole movie is why.
Yeah, no, everything about, everything about that, those guys.
Is that Steve-O that did that?
Yeah, just off the rails.
Well, he's like R.H. Doe.
Yeah, I was amazingly still alive too.
I mean, these guys were jumping in waters with sharks.
You know, it just, come on.
What are you doing?
Stupid.
I mean, anything for likes or anything for.
Well, the name of it, Jackass.
I think one of the.
That's like the start of the old Tik Tok-y thing.
Some of those guys got fucked up.
I mean, her dad.
Well, the midget died.
During one of their scenes?
Well, I don't know, but I know he died.
But you don't know why.
It could have been he got eaten by shark.
I don't think so.
I don't know, but he did die.
He was a little nugget.
I don't know what his name was.
Sharks are, ah, fuck that.
I'm going after a small one.
Yeah.
It tastes like chicken.
Yeah.
That guy there, he so was, you know, he died dead at 54.
So sounds like he's just natural causes.
I don't know, man.
And all the stupid shit he did throughout his life.
Could have been.
Oh, I think it's switched to a different story.
Oh, there we go.
Now, let's see.
He died of.
Jackass star Stevie Lee.
A wrestler known as the puppet unexpectedly passed away.
Oh, so he must have.
I won't say it.
Puppet, the psycho dwarf.
All right.
Pro wrestler.
When did that happen?
What year?
Just a couple of years ago, I think.
Hmm.
Couple of years ago.
Interesting.
Yeah.
Twenty twenty.
Yeah.
Holy shit.
September 11th, 9-11.
He died on 9-11.
I wonder what that could have been.
He died of cancer.
He died of covid.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
That wasn't out yet.
Oh, yeah.
The point zero zero zero.
Yes.
Did you say that they're revising all of those numbers now?
Yes.
They're revising those?
Yes.
They they they had a study put out and they in fact they in YouTube would probably say
this is misinformation.
But based on what I was reading, they said that in retrospect, they looked at the total
number of people that died and said there was no change.
There was a normal change due to population growth that followed the trend of the population
growth versus the demise.
So they're just they're changing it to align with the other causes of death you're saying.
Well, what heart attacks, cancer.
Well, what they think they're changing is they died of and died with.
They admitted that the the so the death certificates, the death certificates were saying, well,
look, this person got decapitated in a car wreck.
However, they at the same time had covid.
Therefore they died of covid.
Right.
So they're going back and they're changing all those different things.
Yeah, they should.
That's silly.
Right.
I mean, I think having covid and dying from covid are two different things.
Right.
So and there were some people that died of absolutely the of covid.
There were some there are people that I know.
There are at least two people that I know that were deathly sick, hospitalized for a
week.
Yeah.
And that's I mean, I don't know if we want to dive too far into that.
That's the problem with like being frustrated with the numbers being fudgy because you take
away from the fact that people really did die from covid.
It really was a dangerous thing for a lot of people.
Yeah.
But the fact that they inflated the numbers made everybody go, well, we don't believe
this.
Right.
So when you not believe something, it takes away from you get to ask yourself, why were
they doing that?
Right.
I don't know.
To inflate the narrative.
Well, I mean, justify the lockdown.
Justify the lockdown.
Yeah.
Well, but why were they doing that?
Trying to try to take over the world.
Well, I mean, there was there's two things.
I mean, there was there they're trying to queer up Trump's plans and they wanted to
they wanted to instill the not instill.
They wanted to what is it called?
They wanted to create a way for the voting system to do the mail in ballots.
There's two.
The other thing that was kind of weird, and none of this is true.
So I mean, I don't know for a fact.
I'm just kind of like you're just joking all around.
Well, no, not really.
But the other thing was the the world economic forum.
Klaus Schwab Schwab Schwab.
So he they're little faction of folk over there.
They were just kind of saying, well, you know, it's kind of an experiment to see if we really
lock down the world, if we can get them to comply, you know.
And then, you know, like one of the latest things that one of those fuckers said was
something like, well, the next time we'll start doing stuff to the water.
Yeah, I saw that.
It really that that's really documented.
I saw the interview was a lady said we're going to do it.
We're going to now start.
We're going to do something to the water next and really get to them.
We'll really make them comply.
No specifics around it.
Yeah, there was none.
It was very vague, but it was the power of suggestion was there.
And you're kind of like, wow, she just said that.
That was a couple of years ago at the WEF.
I think what Davos, whatever the hell they call it, that is just it's sickening.
Yeah, we'll be we are we are being puppetized.
Well, I think we're being conditioned.
We're being groomed.
Well, I think the lockdown worked, but there's going to be a lot of skepticism.
Oh, no, I don't think they can do it again without massive pushback now.
But which is I think is a good thing, potentially bad, because maybe.
So that does.
Yeah, it might.
Well, I mean, right.
That's why China is working on a 100 percent lethal.
Well, they've already done it.
Right.
100 percent lethal.
100 percent lethal, which is what WEF wanted them to have.
Make sure you've got this in your back pocket.
What's the point of population control for one thing?
Well, but the point is, is that they're population.
And Biden's running along with him and he's letting Chinese nationalists come up from the
South and they're they're populating all over the United States right now.
In fact, there was a report put on how was Fox News.
They were talking about a guy that was, not to say undercover, but he was down there on
the path.
They have to travel to like six countries.
And they said on that path, they're passing out these vouchers and some literature for
the Chinese nationalist.
In fact, he was staying at a hotel where a bunch of Chinese nationalists says, I am the
only non Chinese person here.
And there's hundreds of people in this hotel and there's literature all over the place
on on the path to take and who to talk to, where to get your meals all the way.
All right.
So let's let's dive into that.
I wanted to play some do some scenario planning here.
All right.
So let's say, you know, because they've been they've been doing some fear mongering.
There's people like dangerous people coming into the country, just flooding into the country.
Hold on.
I just want to add one more thing.
OK.
Giving meals out all the way.
Those meals are provided by the the UN.
OK.
There's a UN meaning this is almost like a sponsored event.
Yes.
And we pay and we donate planned in the United States.
Donate 20 percent of our the UN survives or exists because of the 20 percent of the money
that we give it.
So we're paying 20 percent of all that food that they're giving.
I think it's probably more than 20.
I'm sure it is.
What would happen if if we said we're out of the UN?
What would happen if we pulled out?
Yeah, if we pulled out.
What would that mean?
I don't know.
Fuck it.
We don't make those rule decisions anymore.
So we'd be they would have to bring in another.
Yeah.
The part of having the big five of the UN is so that you don't have a you don't have
a balance.
You can't have an equal vote.
You don't have two against two or three against three.
There's five.
So you can have three to the Security Council.
The big five.
Yes.
So they called the big five.
They also called Sir Security Council.
Wait, who are the big five?
China, Russia, China, Russia, United States, Australia and then Sri Lanka.
No Mozambique.
That's not a gun.
The Congo.
Fuck, man.
You know, Australia one.
OK.
Can you look at it for us?
What the hell?
The Security Council.
Who's on the Security Council?
The five are Russia, China, United States, Blank and blank.
It's got to be Germany and Great Britain, maybe.
Are you sure China is one of them?
Pretty sure.
No, I don't know.
Current members.
China, France, Russia.
15 members.
OK, but United Kingdom, United States.
We got them all except for there are people that said the Mozambique.
Like I said, no Mozambique is not on there.
I saw it.
No, they are.
They are.
They are permanent members.
Mozambique.
Oh my God.
But you're so lucky.
The permanent members are China, France, Russia, United Kingdom, United States.
Yeah.
And we said them all.
China, France, Russia.
We didn't say France.
I thought Australia was one of them.
No, that's a continent.
It's a country as well.
It's a country and a continent.
Yes.
It's mostly a continent.
Is that the only country continent?
It's not mostly a country.
It's 100 percent a country and 100 percent a continent.
Well, hold on.
But you know what?
I kind of go back on that because North America, for example, envelopes like Hawaii and it
develops like it's around here.
But there's two different there's three different countries in North America.
Well, Canada, Mexico.
Yeah.
And the US.
Yes.
So, yeah.
That's incorrect.
Yes.
Then you have Central America.
But there's no Central America is part of South America.
Yeah.
There is no Central.
There is no South.
There's only.
There's only seven continents.
All right.
Let's back up.
Name the continents then.
A.
North.
Asia, North and South America.
Mozambique.
Africa.
Mozambique.
Africa.
Australia and Europe.
And Antarctica.
Correct.
And Arctic.
There's seven.
No, there is.
But the Arctic.
Do it again.
Antarctica.
What's wrong with this?
We don't need this.
We can do this.
It's Antarctica.
OK.
So, it's all ice.
Europe.
Australia.
Asia and Australia.
Oh, do we say Asia already?
So North Pole is not a.
No, there's no ice.
It's all ice.
Correct.
No, that's it.
So it's Europe.
And soon it's going to be gone.
Europe.
Asia.
Antarctica.
You got it.
North, South.
Mozambique.
No, you're right.
You're right.
And the five oceans.
Oh, shit.
What about Greenland?
Greenland.
That's part of North America.
What is that?
Is this considered an island?
It's not an island, but Trump wants to buy it.
Is it not a continent?
It's not a continent.
No.
What is it?
We just said there's seven continents.
How come Greenland is not its own continent like Australia?
It's an island.
Why is it an Australian island?
Yes.
Yeah, and Greenland is shockingly large.
Greenland.
Especially when you look at maps, it looks larger than Africa.
Yeah.
Well, yeah, those are so jacked up.
So let's back up.
So what are the five oceans?
Atlantic.
Pacific, Indian.
Arctic.
And one more?
Mozambique.
The Southern Ocean.
The South China Sea.
Yeah, they call that the Southern Ocean.
That's a sea.
Not an ocean.
Name the 42 seas.
Is there a multiple choice?
Yeah, I'll pass on that.
All the above.
South Pacific, Indian, Southern.
Well, there's seven seas.
Arctic, North Atlantic, South Atlantic, North Pacific, South Pacific, Indian, and Southern.
How come India has their own?
That's not fair.
Well, it's in the Bay of India.
That's not fair.
Well, there's other countries around there.
Like what?
Vietnam.
Cambodia.
Hold on.
Indian Ocean?
No, wrong side.
Well, what's on the other side?
Sri Lanka.
Qatar.
I think we need a map of the world.
We suck at this.
Do we take geography?
Geography.
Geography in the...
So the Indian Ocean.
You've got Indonesia.
Yeah, Indonesia, Madagascar.
Why is it the Indian Ocean?
The entire eastern coast of Africa.
That's what I mean.
What the hell about that?
That's what I mean.
What the hell, bitch?
That's not fair.
They should rename it.
What would they rename it to?
The India Africa...
Indian Africa?
Why do they have...
What's the name of Australia up there?
Oceania.
Why?
Because it includes New Caledonia and Fiji and all of those other islands, the Solomon
Islands.
So you don't call it Australia anymore?
No, they changed it.
It's Oceania.
Is that racist?
Is that really a thing?
I don't know.
Are they calling it Oceania now?
Why is it called Oceania?
What's Oceania?
Australia up there on that map.
It's called Oceania.
It really is.
What the hell is that?
When did they change that?
I don't know.
What map is that?
It's from Wikipedia.
What do you want?
It's a bunch of one-time...
Oh, yeah.
That's Google.
Yeah, it is Google.
Google says Australia on the map I'm looking at.
Antarctica looks ginormous.
So what does Oceania mean?
No, no, no, because look over to the left.
Look under...
Oh, that's the repeating line.
Look how big Greenland is.
It's bigger than South America.
That's what I mean.
How come it's on its own continent?
Why can't they ever get that right?
I know it's part of North America.
From what I understood, Greenland is super large.
It's not as large as they portray, but it's fucking huge.
It's something about taking a round...
We talked about this before.
You take a sphere and flatten it out, it doesn't look normal.
But...
I don't know.
Well...
Because look at Antarctica.
Antarctica looks ridiculous.
No, so it is larger.
So here's the thing about what they did in the maps.
This was on a documentary.
They said that when they start making the maps, they made actually Greenland smaller
on the maps and made the United States or North America, the central North America larger.
They should make the United States bigger.
I agree with that.
Well, I mean...
It should be bigger than anything else on the map.
Why can't it just be to scale?
Why is Antarctica a million miles long?
Why don't we populate that part of the Earth?
No, I do see two Africa's up there.
So that's a contributing factor.
Wait a second.
This is going around the map several times.
Yeah, this is super confusing.
It's repeating.
Repeating, of course.
Of course.
All right.
Anyway.
I want to know more about this Oceania bullshit.
All right.
Well, let's...
Let's set up, Mr. Producer, what is Oceania?
I wonder if you guess correctly.
Does it encompass the islands around it, like New Zealand?
Is Australia in the Oceania?
Oceania is a region made up of thousands of islands through the central and south Pacific.
It includes Australia, the smallest continent in the terms of a total land area.
But the region is Oceania, which envelops all.
So what I said was kind of right.
So Australia is the largest.
It is a continent, but the region is Oceania.
Look how it says the name...
Well, you didn't say any of that.
Look how it says the name Oceania justly.
It justly establishes the Pacific Ocean as the defining characteristic of the region.
Justly.
I think that's just academics, people trying to bullshit and write a paper.
Yeah, they're dumb.
Justify their job.
So we're calling it Australia.
I studied this in college.
I wrote a thesis.
It needs to be called Oceania.
Yeah, we're going to call it Australia.
We just overruled all the academics.
That's the National Geographic Society and Wikipedia.
Well, they do show boobs.
Hold on.
What, National Geographic?
Yes, Geographic does.
That's a great segue because I want to talk about boobs in National Geographic magazines.
So when we were kids, did we go straight through and flip through them?
I would.
I did it.
Yeah, but you had to process all the lip disks that they had.
Yeah, and the neck stuff.
Remember they had this elongated neck?
Yeah, they'd wrap it with some metal thing and stretch out the necks like that.
Or they had big plate lips.
Yeah, I agree with you.
The little disks in the lip.
They had the big dicks.
It ruined the boobs.
What?
What was that?
What?
Kind of trailed off there.
Disks.
It didn't, no, Sean, it didn't really trail off either.
Paul, can you rewind?
There was no trail off.
The big dicks.
Can you rewind?
I can't do that.
You've got the, can you rewind that?
I'm not playing it back in my head.
I don't want to hear that again.
Both of you stop down.
What?
Remember the whole, remember the sheaths?
They had the penis sheaths.
The tribal warriors would be standing there with these long things.
No, I don't recall that.
Oh, I do.
I tore it out and put it on my, wait, what?
Well, you built one.
Was that the back of the grass?
I built one?
Was that the back of your bathroom door?
Arcing the grass.
You're like in preschool.
What is this?
This is my dick sheath.
I made it out of paper mache.
From middle of Africa.
You made me do it.
Paper mache.
What is your paper mache project, Paul?
It's a walrus penis.
It's my penis sheath.
I learned it from National Geographic that my dad showed me.
That is absolutely nuts.
That was, that was the way we got to see boobs for the first time was National Geographic.
It did ruin the experience though.
Seeing all the lip stuff and the ear stuff and the neck stuff.
I lived in, and you did too.
You lived afar.
I wasn't in Germany growing up like that, man.
They were rather gratuitous.
Well, that's true.
Your friends' parents were all beevin' it and everything.
Yeah, they were walkin' out in the middle of the courtyard.
That was traumatic.
That was traumatic for me.
Yeah, so here I am.
I'm at my Dutch friend's house.
And his parents are skinny.
First off, it was really weird.
The house was built around the pool.
So like, you know what I mean?
So like, you can open up sliding glass doors from all the way around this thing to get
into the pool deck area and then the pool.
So was the dad's junk kinda swingin' out?
Yeah, I'm in my friend's room, which is, you know, kinda playin' with toys or whatever
we're doin'.
I mean, it was what, fourth grade, fifth grade?
And I'm lookin' over and I'm like, uh, and he's like, yeah, sorry.
They're Dutch, so they're just skinny dipping.
I'm like, okay, I don't.
Was it attractive?
Did you run to the bathroom and rub one out?
Whoa, no.
I didn't do that until the next year.
Fourth grade's a little young for that.
Yeah, fourth grade's young for that.
Fifth grade, yeah, I was after it.
So she was not very attractive.
Really?
See, there we go.
He's lobbin' another softball.
And I'm the one punchin' it out of the park.
You son of a bitch.
No, it was gross.
It was gross.
And they were skinny and gross.
I mean, I'm not sure if they had good bodies that would have made any difference.
It was traumatic.
Imagine being at your friend's house.
It kinda looked like a pug with all the rolled skin.
First of all, none of us.
Well, if they had a fourth year old, they're probably in their 30s, right?
Yeah.
35?
Yeah, doable.
I mean, fourth grade.
What's wrong with that?
Now, when you were that age, they probably seemed like they were 80, so that may be a
factor, but today you've been like, hey.
So gross.
So my experience was National Geographic boobs.
Yeah.
My experience was like penthouse.
Well, if we got lucky to find them.
I never got ahold of any of those.
My dad didn't have those.
But again, I was diving back to the Germany experience.
First of all, the German TV itself, the commercials that they had, they had the bars of soap commercials.
And they were fully nude.
Well, no, they showed breasts in the commercials.
Like regular public commercials.
They do in Canada, too.
But the thing about it is that they had a lot of literature.
Were they soapy?
Well, they were in the showers, a standup shower, and they were soapy.
All sudsy.
So was she dressed with sudsy?
And this is what I do.
Here you go, honey.
Zest.
You know, but there was a...
But they had a lot of it.
So bewitched.
But was your mom like, don't look at that?
Or like turn the TV off?
Well, she didn't know.
I mean...
You rewound it?
I'm recording this.
Way before TiVo, bro.
Way before TiVo.
He had like video cassettes, VCR tapes.
The most watched segment ever.
Zest commercial on this tape.
Yeah, that was back then.
That was right on the cusp of the beta and VHS recorders that started coming out right
about that time.
On the tail end of it.
And did you record the Zest commercial?
No, we didn't have one of those, but a couple of my friends did.
And it was kind of fun as far as seeing some of the movies that they would bring over there.
But back to the pornographic stuff that they had in Germany for some reason, they had just
had a lot of literature.
There was a lot of sex oriented stuff.
I don't know what the fucking deal was.
It was like everywhere.
Is that what it is?
It was just...
Yeah.
Liberal.
Different mindset over there.
Yeah, they were just very outward and sex educated.
Sexualized.
Kids drink wine and shit over there as well.
So...
Yeah, whatever.
You know, it's kind of weird.
But you know what?
That's a good point.
I don't think it was all that difficult to get a hold of it, even in our childhood.
Now it's ridiculous.
Like now you can't...
You're talking about pornography or wine?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Well, yeah, pornography is just everywhere now.
It's literally everywhere.
But back then, I mean...
It was hard to get.
I couldn't walk in and buy it.
There was no online.
It was a matter of did someone's dad toss out their Playboys and then get them.
Or toss out...
Fuck, man.
Or toss out a JCPenney's magazine.
That's a good point.
Frederick's...
Yeah.
It was important, but they weren't bras and stuff, right?
I mean, no, you're right.
Yeah.
Frederick's lingerie was another one.
Little dudes are going to find whatever they need.
Oh, yeah.
That's true.
Wow.
What a way to end this podcast.
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