I'm gonna be thirsty. What does that mean? You're gonna pass out, eat some salt? I didn't
drink any water today. I took a sip of that beer right now and as soon as it hit my mouth
I was like oh my gosh I could have drank this whole can. Something tells me you will. You know
I need to bring over some beer because every time I'm starting to raid Jeff's refrigerator.
Tis the season to be doing that because it's Thanksgiving like next week, this week right?
It's Thursday. This Thursday and we've got our boys home. For the dudes like us that have
college-age kids or maybe kids that live in the in the in town. You see them this week? Yes Stephen
so I'll come home and yeah Brandon has three days off. Very nice. But he's got two exams on
Monday. He's got to study. So he's studying the whole time. That sucks. He'll come up for
Thanksgiving for a couple hours right? It's alright. Probably go to Yasmin's visit her
family for Thanksgiving. Let's be honest they don't want to be here anyways. I don't know
about that. The kids? No. No I think they do. Yeah I think they do. I think it gets tiring quick. I mean they
get here like oh yeah this is good I'm ready to go back now. I don't know Dawson's like man a home
cooked meal is awesome and then he's like you know he making a drink and dad you want a drink and
right you know I mean it's kind of it's kind of fun. Terky larky. You guys don't like that song from
Ed and Samler. It's okay. I thought it was funny the first two times maybe and then the other 187
times. I'm not a fan of his music. I thought it was like yeah. There was a time like maybe 15 years
ago. Hell maybe 20 where yeah 20. I was like I thought his shit was funny you know. He had one
of his comedy skits. There was some sort of goat and he does a little goat voice. Freaking hilarious
and he's doing something with the goat and he's got this gym ball. You know those dodge balls,
kick balls that used to have. The red ones. Just the red ones. They make that springy noise. Like a little texture and
every time I think of Adam Sandler I hear the sound that that ball makes when it hits somebody in the
face. Bling. And just that that noise does bing. It's a very unique sound. It's very unique noise.
Like an hour long video of that sound. Didn't we watch that? We did. We may have but we did. Yeah. But that's what I think about.
What do it again? Yeah that's it. I don't know what's happening. That doesn't sound quite the same. That sounds like really kind of like a horror movie.
Yeah that's it. But they've tweaked the shit out of it. Yeah it's just a little over produced there. They did a bad job producing it. You ever played Four Square with those? Those are great.
Remember Four Square? Dudes Like Us? It is the week, the day before Thanksgiving. No. The two days before Thanksgiving. There we go. It's November 21st. Dudes Like Us, I'm Sean. I'm Paul. And I'm Jeff.
And yes I played some of that Four Square. That was so fun. You know and that was a lot of fun. Hopscotch? Never really got into hopscotch. You don't play hopscotch with a red ball. You can.
You can dodge hopscotch. You can use rocks or something. Hold on. What is that thing? I thought they bounced something and then they hopped. No you got to. Well hopscotch is not. No you have like a grid and you had to throw a rock and you had to like jump on one foot or something like that.
Yeah hop hop two feet one one. I've never played that game. It was fun. It was more for the girls to be honest. Oh. That's why Jeff was over there. But boys play it too. Jeff was like hey how you doing?
By the way I'm a hopscotch master. Yeah you don't know how to play hopscotch Jeff. And he's like the hell I don't bitch. Let's do this. Watch this. V five four four. And all the girls are like oh my god he's so good at hopscotch.
Then you throw the ball at him. He's so agile. You would be that kid playing dodgeball and you like smash the shit out of the girls right in the face. Yeah we didn't have mixed dodgeball. So good bitch. That would be like transgender dodgeball.
Like transgender field hockey with that poor chick in her teacock town. That's not a funny story though. No that wasn't. In fact it kind of stirs up a little resentment. But that wasn't even transgender. That was a dude. That was just a dude. Yeah that was because they had some rule where they.
That was because of the transgenders they put that rule in. No I thought it was because if they didn't have a team if the men didn't have a team the men could play on the girls team. That's exactly what it was. Yeah it had nothing to do with being. They didn't offer it. It was some sort of stupid ass loophole. Yeah it had nothing to do with what you identified that. It all had to do with the boys and girls are the same. It doesn't matter.
There was a time where I thought I mean look every everything is different for the men and the women the girls and the boys. They're held at a different level. I mean when you do the the American presidential fitness awareness test or whatever that thing is you there are different things.
I mean you do pull ups for guys you do one chin up for girls and see how long the sit ups. I mean they have two categories. They don't have how many sit ups can you get done in a minute. They're like all right for guys at this age you could do this many. I was number one in the women's category in our elementary. Yeah.
I exceeded. Yeah. Yeah. I identified as girls just so I can like just haul ass through the push ups. Oh yeah. Because you know with guys the knees. Yeah you get to put your your your help. What ripoff is that. Come on bitch you want the same rights as me. Those knees off the ground. Get off your knees.
Get on your toes. Stay on your knees. Wait hold on. What do we want. Just went fucking horrible. Usually does. We're four minutes into the podcast.
But going back to hopscotch there are some other good good games we played during the elementary. Those were the best years man. Yeah life was different. What we play like tetherball was when we had a couple of tetherball. I don't know what called courts but polls.
Basically right. Yeah. We'll play the shadow tetherball. You know there's all kinds of rules too. If you win you stay. No stop. Pretty long line. No stop us. No roping. No roping man. You can't rope. You know when you when you when you rope rope is when you grab the string above the ball.
You know and you just kind of. Definitely can't do that. Yeah. And then it's kind of no no stop buses where they would catch the ball and then hit it. No no no no no stop buses or bus stops no bus stops. That's what it was. Oh my god. That's so funny.
There was all these stupid rules and then I remember when you when you did get like a great hit and it like went really high up in the air and it sat there and went all the way to the top. No no no you didn't have to. You hit it really hard and it goes all the way and then you win right.
When it when it hits the pole. Yeah if you could get it up high and going fast and you can outreach the other person. Yes they can't do that. It's just that they're watch. Yeah. Greatness. That was greatness. And then you push the kid down spit in their face.
That was the best. Did you guys do that. You guys did that too right. We like the whole bully thing. We went to a different type of school. Yeah. You were at that one where they had the big old things on their ears and they were like hey mom.
Mr. B. Me vanilla pudding a little tiny short bus. You're in Cambodia. I was in Indonesia. No my elements. Well let's see part of my I was I was in three different elementary schools growing up three different countries.
One of the things that me and my friends was stupid but we would there we would go around giving people flats and basically what it would be is go up and step on the heel of their shoe. So the back he would come out and fold over and everything.
And then they twist their ankle and fall down smash their head on the pavement. No that never happened but hold on. You come up behind somebody.
A flat tire. Step on their heel. The shoe. So as they're staying as they pull their foot forward. That's right. You trap their shoe and then you stomp on it. No. It's all one process. You just pop the shoe out of their foot.
So their heel comes out and it comes back down then it bends the heel in. You know what we're talking about. Kind of. I've never seen it actually but I've done it with my own shoe. Yes. It's horrifying because it's you've now damaged your shoe.
It will no longer go back to its its original form. Yes. Yeah we'd they built shoes a little more sturdy and durable back then. The kids the kids gym shoes. Nowadays. Yeah the shoe just falls apart.
Despite spending two hundred dollars on it. I didn't wear gym shoes all through elementary middle school. I had corrective shoes from hush puppies.
So mine were nasty brown suede shoes. Corrective why you had like a spine issue or something. Elbow problems. So. Elbow. What. No I had flat feet. I've got these got these arches theory. Yeah. Because of my right elbow.
So that was back then. It was back then when flat feet were considered to be bad. Right. I don't know if they are better. Right. So I got you. Now the solution to that is like take your shoes off. You know I think that is a big problem with kids nowadays or even adults is that you know we're designed to really not to have shoes.
I mean you should try to wear shoes all day for the most part now. Yeah I agree. I think it does great. It does great things for your lower extremity muscles. And your mask is not wearing shoes. Yeah I don't wear shoes during the day. Only when to walk the dogs or something like that.
Well I mean there's a lot of people that do. And it really is probably not their fault either. And you know because they're they've got to work. You know people have different types of jobs. They go to the office. Yeah. Well I have a lot of feet problems. My feet are the bones inside are kind of jacked up. And I don't they used to hurt quite a bit. You probably have a wide foot. You've been jamming in a regular shoe. No my feet the metatarsals or whatever.
They're they angle like this. So these are the toes right here. So yours is that I got 40 degree the other way. They should be straight. Mine go like this. Did you have some horrific bulldozer accident. No I never knew I had a feet. I never I never knew I had a problem because my feet on the outside don't look like that. He's part amphibian.
He's amphibious. He's got like a little frog foot. Yeah. Extra toe. They're webbed. And when I would take Stephen to track practice I would I would run as well. I take advantage. I'm going to run. I'm not stuck. I said my ass. I'm going to run. Well I do that in the next three or four days. I could barely walk because my feet hurt so bad. So I ended up going into the doctor and they saw the weekend or something because I got some young.
I don't know. Go slow. And she did. She did an x ray there on site. She goes back and she goes. Does she pop your foot up on the. She caressed him. She's like let me get that foot between my hands. No she was very young. Pull off your sock nice and slow. She was for the short straw.
Does that feel good. No Saturday morning visit. Jeff will pull it around your heel. So I. She goes. She goes. Oh. All of your foot. Well you have deformed feet. Pull it over your sock now. He's trying not to be distracted but he knows the whole time it was erotic. It was. I was nude. That feels good.
It was. Sir can you put your clothes back on. But my feet hurt. I love the way you blow hot air. No but she came and she got all right. Go ahead. She came and she goes well your feet are deformed. That's the first thing in her mouth. I was like what. What a bitch. And she showed me the x ray. Good feeling gone. Right. How dare you. I like my feet. My erection just dropped. I went and saw a foot specialist. Podiatrist. So I went and saw a podiatrist and he's like yeah. He goes I recommend you not run anymore because all you're
gonna do is all those bones are just rubbing against each other. What. How over you. Oh Stephen was running so 40s. Oh damn. That you just then figured out your feet were fucked up. Yeah. And what kind of about did you wear. I was wearing gym shoes just regular running shoes. And it was. That's why I have such a hard time when we go hiking like in the mountains.
But I could barely fucking walk after that. Oh really. Yeah it killed me. I walk down your house. I've been so much trouble walking down that mountain. That's why because they hurt so bad. That is horrible. I wish I would have known that.
You even kind of mentioned something but I was kind of like would you. It's please. I would have carried him down if you had known. You could. I. There's nothing I could have done. I could have taken off a portion of my clothing and he could have laid in it.
I could have pulled him behind me and it may be you could have taken you got like six feet. You could have fetched together a some sort of no but sort of thing to drag him down the mountain. But since I could have whipped up something I got some large trees out there I could have knocked it.
I mean large. I mean I could have knocked down or peeled a piece of bark off. Yeah. The bark by itself is the size of a frickin and makes them sort of make some sort of rudimentary sled. It could be the slice has gone straight down.
Oh Jeff I'm a put you in the river. I'll run down and I will catch you at the bottom. We go like two men die hiking in the woods. Something like I was missly down the woods.
One man found with his head up the other one's ass. Right. Fucked up feet sticking out of the sky.
But what I'm what I'm getting at is now that I'm not wearing shoes all day my feet don't bother me like they used to. Nice.
So cool. Well they have a natural they grow whatever the way they want to grow. If their ears are deformed then all right. Well there's a specific way they grow. Have they talked to you about getting a special shoe to accommodate that.
They have lots of different shoe options. No. We've got a CNC machine. We could whip out a few of those wooden holland clogs. Yeah from Holland. Yeah from the Dutch.
Yeah you get these little 90 degree angle ones and you'd be like click click click click click click click click. That would not be annoying at all. Those look horribly uncomfortable. What is going on. I think Jeff we can put some rubber on there. They look massively uncomfortable.
Yeah. No. No. No. As a kid I had one. I had clogs. We had clogs growing up because. Oh shut up. Did you go clogging. I swear on my my I swear we had clogs going up like Riverdancing. We lived in Germany. It was right there. I mean we went to. We even stayed in Kahn. Oh for Balenciaga those are the kind you had one day. Oh twelve hundred and fifty dollars. We did not have that. Who would buy that. Someone would. That's retarded. It's a pedophile.
Why do you have to be a pedophile. Well anyone buys from Balenciaga's got to be a man's point toe clogs. Twelve hundred and fifty dollars. Why would you wear that. Oh you're saying the black thing. Those were the people that got in that. They did the advertisement with the little kids. Yes. OK. Now that will scroll up. Is that a kid. No. Oh I bet he's 13. No he's got those oversized clogs. His clothes are way too big. Those shoes are like.
Pantons. Those are ugly for one thing. What's inside of them. Wood. This is just wood. There's no like. Well traditional clogs don't have any kind of. I mean I guess they they may have some felt a little bit of thin layer but I find a normal one. That's like a luxury clog. Find a normal clog.
Not a crock. That's not to count. Yeah. Find a normal wooden clog. Kind of hard to find them. I was going to say do they really exist. Type in the word Holland in front of that. Oh there you go. OK. Dutch. Yeah these are a little bit better.
Now but these are like ceremonial. People don't wear them. They wear them if they're doing like a festival. When we were there in the early 80s late 70s they were wearing them like as everyday shoes. Find a video of clogging. We saw. We would. We went to Holland and I saw we've seen these large farms of the tulips and the windmills are traditional out there as far as.
Holland is very. They've got these massive windmills. I mean like the water driven ones. For real. It's known for. It's like cool looking windmills. Yeah. So it was kind of a cool thing. I'll tell you I complain about living away from and having a regular life growing up because I'm stuck over overseas kind of like you.
Well that was normal for you. It was normal but I envy folks like you that grew up in one place that have some really close friends your entire life. Right. You still have those friends. Yeah I do not. Yeah. And so my point of bringing that up is I kind of lost my train of thought. You clogs. Oh the clogs is.
Well you know whatever. I grew up over there. That was a thing. We had my brother had a pair. I had a pair. What were they used for. Oh well they use or no we did. They were more of a touristy kind of novelty. Yeah they weren't really the people there. They wore them. They got out of bed. They freaking warm and they would have these macula. They had to be artful things. They had to be comfortable. They're not stupid. They're not stupid people. Well I mean think about it. We wear those Birkenstein. Is that what they're called. That's leather and cork. But still. Yeah.
They may be an insert. I guess I guess they're really. I don't think there's an insure an insert. I think it's shaped to match the foot. Yeah. Well I think that these guys are master craftsmen. Yes I agree. They may fit those to the contour of your foot. Those guys may be. And I bet you they're amazingly comfortable. All right. I'm going to expect to see you have clogs. And you. I'm going to go buy some. Well it's kind of cool because when you go over there they have these shops set up and they have these elaborate
really painted clogs. Right. And they're really traditional really bright colors. They really do look stupid though. I'm sorry to say it but. You'd have to have the pointy toe. Yeah they look really dumb. I would never. Could it be open toe clog. No. Especially you got to use a specific species of wood too because you know. Like Cyprus. Yeah well you know cedar. It really depends. I mean you don't want to get those too close to a campfire. I bet it's a hard wood. Are they going to release. What kind of off gassing do they do.
Are there toxins in there. I wonder what kind of wood they. I guess pine is it teak. Yeah what kind of wood do they make it out of. Zebra. Zebra. Zebra bone. Zebra wood. Walrus dick. Yes. Some clogs out of that. Very interesting.
Oops. So he's a master craftsman writer. So we are a little bit more seasoned than I guess we would normally be because we had a starter bourbon. Jeff had we have picked up this very very very small sample. Yes. Yeah. So is a normal shot. But it was one that we would never say. It sat on the shelf. You know why. Because it's 91 proof. Let's get real. We are snobs and we really actually it's not we. You. All right. Look I'll take it. I don't care.
I'm the least snob here. I'm totally willing to drink any type of bourbon. Doesn't matter what the friggin you're going to get smited right in front of us. No. Smite. I've been smote. Smoted. So Jeff says hey man we're going to sample this because it's sitting up here and we're fucking doing it and shut the fuck up. So we he poured us a little sample of Coopers Mark bourbon whiskey. It's a small batch and it was 91 proof. That's kind of why we're kind of. But it was good. It was good. I'm glad we handled it. I mean we didn't get we didn't do what we do on a
normal you know sample which we'll get. We'll get to that. I compared it to a light lager like you know compared to an IPA. It's just it's a light bourbon. It doesn't have it's got a fair taste. You can taste it's got some vanilla in there. It's nice. It's some light. It's not caramel but it's more vanilla more nut buttery kind of soft taste. I thought it was good. You know sometimes you get that that bourbon like Kentucky deluxe or something
that's a little stringent. This one's not. It's a it's a solid 91. You know you're really comparing this to Kentucky Deluxe. I'm just I'm comparing a race difference between them. Right. I mean this is this actually wasn't as bad as I thought it was going to be. It is a very light hue and that and we definitely I was looking for an age statement. We definitely have turned down even buying ones when we see how light the hue is. Oh hell look at that. Yeah. Well they they produced this.
In Princeton Minnesota. So they made a soda. They make their own stuff. Very nice. So it wasn't bad at all. Cooper's what. Cooper's Mark. It was like 28 24 bucks. So it was respectable I thought. It's kind of a flasky shape bottle. Yeah. Flasky shape. Yeah. But do it. But we are we going to we're not going to we're going to pause on the real bourbon that we're trying tonight. No we can we can talk. We'll talk about that.
Whatever. I don't care. No let's keep going. I like kind of the track we were on with the younger younger kids boys wearing clogs. You're still into the Balenciagos. Is that what's going on. Do we lose you. No. Are you like Susan Sarandon just kind of like offering your own little world and fucking magic. What kind of shoes do you wear when you're in Burma. In Burma. Actually you know my favorite shoe growing up was capers. You remember those. Oh my God. Yes. Capers were the shit because they two sets of.
I loved them. Never had them. K.A. EPA. Because remember if remember when I over there I couldn't get any of the American stuff right. So during the summers we came back to the state sneakers and that's when we did. It's an Indian movie.
And it had two layers. So it is. So you see how it has the two sets of two sets of laces. Yes. That was my favorite brand.
It's it's because you can have like it could be a flip flop because you can like barely put it on and don't do the upper one and you can take them off and on real easy. Yeah. So I take it they don't make these anymore. They don't make those. I'm aware of.
But I tell you what. So I would like I said when I get back to the states I mean granted we're little too right. So we're growing fast and we need new shoes. So I would get to two pairs of capers.
One's my size and one's a larger size because you know we would go back to Indonesia and then that's what I wore all year long and it was the best. That was my favorite shoes that bring back a little bit memories for me living over in Germany.
One of the first pair of gym shoes I had were I believe their kids turf shoes. Remember those things look like kids. I think they were kids.
But they were called turf shoes and the souls were there you go. They had they had. Yeah. There they are with the black knobby soul. Oh you must have been. Oh is that you. That was you. You were one of those rich kids. Field King.
No. Field King 1984. No.
It may not be Jeff. It could be some generic brand. Oh my God. He has what were they kids. Hopscotch. Master. Where are the kids. Not only that he knows how to play hopscotch. But I remember the the soul. Don't drop the rock. I thought we're cool back in today because it was a bunch of little little knobs down the bottom.
To grab the turf. I guess if you're the fastest kid when you get when you played a school yard.
Show me the turf. Where's the turf. I want to run. We didn't have turf back then. So we played on natural grass. So I'm a monster on the green. Our city was too poor to afford turf.
We just have dirt and grass. Oh no grass. Oh you said no turf. No turf. Yeah. No we have turf. Grass is turf. What are you talking about. No like the artificial turf. Oh no no. No. Ask me. Ask me. Ask me. Ask me. Ask me. Ask me. Ask me.
Oh no no no no. Ask me. First off turf is there is artificial turf but turf means grass. Correct. It also means trans exclusionary radical feminist. Really. What the hell. Where'd you pull that. That's what the that's what they call. Who's the lady who wrote Harry Potter.
Oh. Really. Yeah she's a feminist but she excludes trans. Yes. Oh they they are hating. So they're called they're called turf. So these feminists hardcore. What does it stand for again. Trans exclusionary radical feminist. Oh my god. What just happened. Yes.
We know how we go from happy little kid. Oh I had the coolest shoes ever. Oh we played hopscotch. Oh they play on the grass. She's a turf bitch. Well you bet you this is exclusionary female.
God Jeff Jeff. Keeping it. Talk about a hard left.
Trans exclusionary radical feminist right there. She. Well that's what you get at this podcast. We can't stay on a topic for more than 20 seconds. So that's all right. Yes. We usually work our way back sometimes. We do. So yeah you would take those turf shoes and you hang out and you'd be running along playground and hit the. What was like your. Did you ever play on the jungle gym. Oh yes.
They had a metal jungle jungle metal not plastic. So the cool thing growing up for me in Germany is right there. There you go. There's the jungle gym. They have like the domes that are all connected. Oh and the spinning wheel of death.
The spinning wheel of death. Call them monkey bars. You mean the merry go round merry go round. Yes. Yeah that was a lot of fun. I don't see as many of those nowadays but I look like that reliability purpose. Yeah because kids are idiots like we were idiots made it go so fast and people would fly off.
Oh get hurt. Oh it was fantastic. I was one doing it. I'm like kids hang on hang on. They're like I remember that thing. I don't know what happened to him honey. The cone. But both his eyes are black. The spinning cone. You guys are a plan. Oh good Lord. No that is not safe.
Look I played on those two. Lord I've never seen one of those. It's gotta be Ohio thing. I don't know. It nearly killed your grandparents but I remember having those. It looks like you have to balance it. It's like it's like an umbrella being balanced. Yeah that does not look safe.
It's like a cone on top of a pole. No it wasn't but it was fun. Yeah. Yeah we lived in a different world where it was OK to like you know rough and tumble and rub some dirt on it. It hurts right over. I got to say living over in Germany those Germans are pretty crafty with their playgrounds.
We lived in a community called Benjamin Franklin Village and so we've got military style barracks. Kind of like whatever generic shit they got in there. The German when you stepped off the base back then they didn't have walls or anything.
It's just you know you're now outside the you're in the German Strassembann or whatever. They'd have like a Kepferthal forest in Mannheim Germany. They've got like all these parks out there like in their playgrounds would be crafted out of wood. Nice. Like large chunks of wood.
They'd have like zip lines. They would have like walking bridges. You know how we have a common parks in Frisco. Yeah. Friendship Park. That's all. That's all wood. It's the same. Yeah it's the exact same thing that that they had over.
I wonder if they got inspiration from those parks over there. Man I tell you it was a it was a really cool experience growing up. It was almost like going to a park like an amusement park. Right. Because there was all these cubbies and club houses and you people could just like run in or you could sit there and just stay and hang out.
And there's like a little windows without glass. You know just kind of. Well I remember that we were lucky enough because that was built when the boys were very very small. Yes. Our two. And we used to go. Brandon I remember every weekend Brandon would he's a wake up early like five or six in the morning in the morning every morning.
And so one of us would take Saturday and the other one take Sunday and we we'd take him up at six o'clock in the morning when the sun came up and we go up to Friendship Park. Damn. Every Saturday. Yeah. Like I said we alternated weekend Austin right there down and to the right up.
We wouldn't spend a couple hours up there and come back and he'd nap and. Yeah it's great. One of the one and that was all volunteer built. It was. Oh was it really. Yes it was designed. Yeah. Then it burnt down someone burned it. Are you kidding me. Yeah some punk teenagers burned it down. Burned it. Did they rebuild it. Yeah they rebuilt it. Yeah. Yeah well they have insurance that paid for all that shit. I hope so. I don't know. I don't know who owned it. That's city in it. Yeah but it was built by a bunch of it didn't matter. It's all city property.
Yeah it was super cool. It's I hope it's still there. It's great. It's wonderful for kids. They also had some interesting innovative tools educational tools like Mr. Pritz you may have to remind me on if you got a mic over there.
Remember the things used to hit that would make musical sounds and a good dulcimer. Well it was like that would make a tone you know they've got a little drum things and they have these these PVC pipes that would lead from one side of the playground like 40 50 feet away. You could talk through them. Yes. And you could like say something in the person.
The French you're part of that. Yeah that's what I'm referring to. Yeah yeah yeah. And because they have that but they also have some sort of things that like drums that you beat these things and they make a tone and you can literally play a song with it. Yeah and they were like big puzzles and things that you like you know they're on poles and you kind of you know roll the roll that kind of whatever they're called I don't know letters and I remember they also it was really cool for kids. They said a sand pit. They also had like a crane with a big scoop.
It was fun to. Oh yeah. I'd play with that. Oh that's good stuff. Did you sit on the seat. I did. I'd sit on the seat. I did too. Did you really. Yes. That's what I do. When you were when you were young dad with a little tiny kid it's just as much fun doing the shit with them. Yeah I had fun. Yeah we used to play Pokemon go walk around the track.
Five or six years ago I was. That's what Shelley always kind of you know like her friends would be like is he a Disney dad. Meaning it's all about just my job as a father which did just you know you know be it be funny have fun with the kids but never discipline never take care of stuff.
I was like no I was not a Disney dad but but that's what she would always say. You're a Disney dad or whatever like in a negative in a negative way right. And I was like no I'm not. But anyway yeah it's good stuff man. We'll get to do that all over again when we have grandkids. How about that.
Yeah it'll be a little bit different too. It'll be very different. I won't be the five. I'm not waking up at five.
Maybe we'll be on our terms. We'll be we'll have a big old Yeti cup filled with bourbon and soda. Come back to drink with the kid. Hey you know they want to try some of grampies cough syrup.
Can I have more of your soda. Sure. It tastes like pop. Oh wait a squash that beautiful moment. Anyway so good stuff. So you speaking of friendship part. Did you see what just happened over there. I think Sean you have the details on this.
Well I don't. I mean I know a little bit. Austin had mentioned it before the podcast but from what I understood they pulled a body out of the pond. The pond where people fish were the fish eating it. I don't know any details about it.
Is it bloated. So but in there for a while is what I meant. Bad things and crime are headed to the town man headed into our city. Well I always thought I was going to turn into the hood. You know it just it never.
It just says a body found. It doesn't say why or how or anything. I'm I'm responsive person in the water is basically what it says. Oh wow. Thanks Sean. Sorry about that. In investigations underway after police recovered a body from the pond at the Frisco
Commons Park Monday the body was found after officers responded to a report of an unresponsive person at the park. You guys just mentioned that 8000 McKinney. What a night. We released who felt like a family. Yeah. Imagine a family pushing a stroller with a dog.
You know the little kids next to the stroller you know like mom what's that floating in the water. Yeah. Nightmare.
Nightmare. And then and then down the street got a freaking shooting at Walmart half a mile away literally probably half a mile a mile away. What's going on man. Yeah. Walmart Walmart you said shooting and then and then we're at the mall you said.
No the Frisco Commons the dead body. OK so Frisco Commons in the Walmart. Did you say there was a third one. Well there was two shootings that the night that somebody was shot in front of the Walmart there was a shooting around the corner on Hickory Street.
So and apparently both of them were random shootings random completely random. So just like somebody Jerry riding in the car and go you should shoot that guy kind of like those idiots in Vegas that decided to run over the former police chief.
Yeah that was nuts. Yeah crazy man what's going on. It's crazy. People are just this world has just gone crazy with stupid stupid people.
Well that that city up there in by Vegas where the two ran down the ex sheriff is also the same city where those kids beat up to 17 year old kill them. Oh yeah. It's the same city.
So it's systemic. Yeah the youth growing up in that area have completely lost all all morals all sense of right and wrong. Jeff has he brought up a point in the green room before we started and I don't necessarily agree 100 percent but I agree a lot.
I think the it made it's not because of COVID but it's what COVID did to us. You know a lot of it's tick tock and some of these other social media apps that were flipping through the screens for that dopamine rush in the other part of it is just the you're taken away from your social construct
your day to day interaction with people and you become this invulnerable individual when you're behind a social screen and you're communicating through that and you're responding on the Internet and you say fuck you you're stupid.
You wouldn't do that in just somebody's face. Right. So I just I think it's it's like I think because of COVID I think people were kind of stunted a little bit. You know what socially it's like they forget some of the etiquette that requires being public sometimes.
Yeah I agree with that. I think part of it is it drives me nuts where you see all these people wearing pajamas all day out wearing their pajamas. Yeah I don't I don't subscribe to that but on some frickin clothes unless she's hot.
Unless she's hot. I get that. I get that but I mean just to me yes COVID was weird especially for our young kids it was weird it set them back so much but that doesn't that doesn't that shouldn't make a moral compass right and wrong like core core values.
We all know that comes from the family. Yeah that shouldn't that shouldn't get rocked by COVID. Well just like I showed you that video that kind of started the discussion is the lady on the airplane. Yeah.
She was told she had to go sit down she couldn't use the bathroom yet she need to pee. She pulled her pants down dropped trial and in the aisle pissed in the aisle and then everybody was like come on what are you doing.
She started fighting back with them. Yeah she was like if you if you you know what I'm really who. Yes. See to me that's that's just mental illness man I don't I don't know what's going on with this country in terms of.
Well you see more and more of this though especially on the planes. Yes. People forget how to act you have your space right and be respectful of each other. Right. That doesn't happen these days.
Yeah but pulling your pants down and peeing in the aisle. What is that. Have some consideration with the person who has to sit there now. Right. Imagine the people that had to see her butt.
Well we saw her butt. It was huge. Yeah it was nice. That was scarier than what she did.
Anyway I don't know I think I couldn't believe she did. I thought she pooped or something. I mean I was like wow. That was a quick one. Yeah it was a thunk. Yeah. Yeah I don't I don't I don't understand.
I don't I don't I don't understand. I don't stand but I don't get the people because there's there's a lot of videos on airplanes these days of people just losing their shit. Yeah. I just I don't get it. I don't understand it.
I think there's times are just you know what they don't have. I think the etiquette like you said has completely changed the way the way that people handle their emotions is unchecked. Correct.
It's absolutely unchecked because they say shit. You're kind of like look man there were you should have already gone through a life experience where you acted like that and someone called you out. You should have had that lesson already.
I mean do you think it's gradual. Yeah. Do you think it's been gradual or is it did something spike in the last something spiked. I think it could have been starting but I think the isolationism that code created sped things up exacerbated things.
I just I just don't think this is by design. Maybe I'm wrong because I'm thinking maybe not. But I mean so I mean I don't know. I don't know. I don't know if we want to get that deep into it. But what about being isolated and having your world be totally weird and things are different now.
How does that make you suddenly you're stuck in your pants down in on the airplane and pee in the aisle because you're told you can't go to the bathroom. I'm not saying that that was the sole contributor.
I know. I think it was that in conjunction with what Sean said sitting for hours on Tick Tock. Yes. Seeing people do this acting stupid saying stupid things with no repercussions. I think they just lost. I've seen the uptick Rand there's there's there's been an uptick of just shit going on.
Right. Misbehaving. I mean a big part of the sea monkey do. But a big part of it is don't like this. We were raising several generations of I'm going to do whatever I want. Don't tell me what to do. I've done what I've wanted to do from the moment I was born.
I had shitty parents that didn't teach me right and wrong. I had shitty parents that never gave me any boundaries for what I could and couldn't do. And I live in a world as an adult now where no one tells me what to do. That could be. But well the other parent right now is tough.
Forties baby. Right. I don't know. I don't get it. I don't have an answer. You've got stupid people raising stupid people in this getting. I mean it's victims of victims. There's a book out there I think called the
Victims of Victims. But that has to do with procrastination. But the point is it's a learned behavior and there's a process. And it's the demise of the family structure. It's the demise of etiquette and properness. You know it's just like you know it's getting worse every generation.
Yeah. Because that shit wouldn't fly in my house. I want that I grew up with my dad. Oh yeah. It was even worse for him. And imagine it's got to be even worse for his dad. You know I mean it just seems like we've been getting easier and lighter and lighter and lighter on the kids. And with the way they grow up it's so lax and oh I give it fuck it.
It's a gradual a gradual. And now it's it's it's way different. Now they each have their individual phones and they have their social media and they've got super freedom. 100 percent. And they can communicate. They're watching porn. They're they're sexualized. They're making poor decisions on fucking poor tattoos.
You know and it's just it's just come on. You're going to have some regret. Eventually you will have some regret. I'm not knocking tattoos. There's just you know sometimes you may get a tattoo. If you get a tattoo cool you like it. That's great. Then I understand that there's some sort of fever.
Oh God I got to get another one. And so they get another one. And I'm not saying whatever. I don't give a fuck. It's not for me. I haven't figured out. I want to get one but I don't know what to get. I don't know where to put it. But it's like I worry that sometimes these you'll take it too far where you'll have regret. That's the part. It's about regret.
I've seen I've seen several videos where these kids who are in their early 30s now I guess are not necessarily kids anymore. But when they got their tattoos they were kids. Right. And they're like what interested me when I was 17 18 19. I have no interest in them at 35. Oh my God.
But my arm. Yeah. But yeah. Big thing of this rapper's face. Yeah. I've got fucking Super Mario on my mushroom on my head. Had I gotten the tattoos I want to get when I was 21 22 I would have been horrified if I had them today. Yes. I mean just really just short sighted.
Stupid stuff. But they're getting them on their chest and their neck. Oh no no no. And they're starting to see face tattoos or I'm seeing more and more of those. Yeah. Yeah that's really good in the corporate world too. It's not good.
When you're on Zoom and you've got this spider web tattoo running down the forehead or your or your boyfriend's name. Perfect. Yeah. Yeah. And every time you talk your silver studs like you know you know was that was that a star I saw on your front tooth.
She's saying I don't know man. I don't get it. It does make you wonder like did the fall of every every good you know civilization like the Roman civilization and the Egyptians. Did it start with an overweight woman. You know peeing on like the community cart or the community.
You know we talk about it a fat woman. So I don't know what that is. Was that was that the start of the fall of every civilization. The start of the fall. The civilization was the the
breakdown the emasculation of of men. And yeah it was the Romans. Yeah yes. Every single major empire. Look I didn't finish. So it's it's the sexualization like it's it's it's when you got too many gay people. I mean when people start to get woke and hey I want to identify as this. I'm not saying they did that part in the Roman time but what they did is they were very sexualized like they were very sexualized.
A lot of men on men and it just you know it was different. I had a friend that was that it was that they were they were reading a book and there are signs and Mr. Producer maybe you can help. There was more to it. I just forgot. Maybe you could help with this.
Signs the signs that a civilization you know the fall signs of the fall of a civilization because they they have done studies where they all the major civilizations of the world that were like totally advanced and sophisticated like Subaria. Yeah seriously.
The Babylonian Babylonian. Yeah the Sumerians the Romans the Greeks right when it was Alexander the Great. Yeah I mean all of them had a similar pattern of indicators that that led that that preceded their fall. And I would love to. I mean we don't have to dive into it right now but I would I would love to know what those are.
So there's there's different classes. So there's there's cultural stage five is like cultural collapse. Right. So there's so there's cultural social political commercial financial and it and I don't know. We have to break each one of those down.
But those are basically the five interesting stages of collapse of civilization. Well some of those are pretty self explanatory like scroll to the top. Let's let's walk. Let's walk through this really quick. I mean some of those are in no brainers right.
Yeah natural disasters. I mean what were some of those causes like Pompeii foreign invasion and mass migration. Oh that's different famine economic depression internal strife. I get all that.
We're talking about civilization from a growth perspective falling down from within really. Yeah. Falling apart. So it's so let's let's let's break this up. This is happening in China. There we go. Demographic dynamics. That's a big one.
That's part of the cultural collapse. The imbalance the imbalance sex ratio. They have too many men. Yeah because they did that whole you can only have one kid for so many generations and you don't want a girl.
So they kill the girls. They would if the girl was born they would snuff them out throw them in the ditch and have more kids until they had a boy. Yeah. So there's too many men. They needed boys to run the farm. They needed boys for the laborer and all that kind of stuff.
I know crazy. Yeah. They're really hurting. So is that part of the which which stage is demographic dynamics that fall under the cultural social political commercial. I wonder if there's a better site. Yeah I want you to.
I wish you could find a better site that kind of talks about these are the signs signs of five stages go up right there. Click that. There we go. All right. Financial collapse. Resilience. What. Here we go. This is a good one.
My my but hair pulled out stages of collapse. Stage one financial collapse faith in business as usual is lost. The future is no longer assumed to resemble the past in any way that allows risk to be assessed and financial assets to be guaranteed.
Wow. So financial institutions become insolvent savings are wiped out access to capital is lost and then you have commercial collapse. All right. So let's see faith that the market shall provide is lost money is devalued becomes scarce.
Commodities are hoarded. Wow. This is scary like toilet paper. Yeah like toilet paper. But I hope it then you have political collapse. That's stage three. This is the faith that the government will take care of you is lost official attempts to mitigate widespread loss of access to commercial sources of survival necessities failed like the police.
Oh yeah. The police and the fire department you know if there's people failing to do the 911 responses. Yeah I don't know if I agree with the order of these though. No I don't either. But so far stage one two and three is California. So let's do stage four societal collapse no social collapse faith that your people will take care of you is lost local social institutions may they be charities community leaders are the groups that rush in to fill the power vacuum run out of resources and fail through economic failure.
So that's what's happening like in New York City with all those migrants those migrants coming in. They've come into a social collapse. Yes they're unable to have their their charity programs take care of stuff. Here we are in stage five. This is what I'm talking about. This is what we've been talking about. This is faith in the goodness of humanity is lost. People lose their capacity for kindness generosity consideration affection honesty hospitality compassion charity.
I mean families disband and compete as individuals from scarce resources. The new motto becomes may you die today so that I die tomorrow. Wonderful. And there may even be cannibalism. I don't think we're there yet. We will. It's added that in there. You know there may be. I the first sign of cannibalism is that we're going to be able to get rid of the cannibalism.
Right. We see a fight every week. They're going to start cannibalism on airplanes. They're going to start eating each other on like a three hour flight. Well they got some sort of fast food cannibal stop. I hit this this elevator. I'm going to get a little bit of a
punch or we when we lose our faith in faith in humanity like an overweight woman getting pissed off and peeing in the aisle of an airplane. Well that's stage five bro. Well I don't know if I necessarily agree with what they're saying here. I think some of these could be signs. I don't see them as stages because if you lose your whole like if you lose your whole
like stage one was your whole economic collapse. Yeah that's huge right. We're not there yet but man we're teetering. But we're that stage one we're kind of dealing with a bunch of stage five shit now. Yeah I don't know what the I grew you know what I mean. I don't think it was in reverse. Yeah they may be days like Defcon. So one is the worst.
We're kind of dealing with a bunch of stage five shit now.
Yeah, I don't know what the, yeah, I agree with you.
You know what I mean?
I don't think they were.
I think it was in reverse.
Yeah, they may be in reverse.
I think it was like DEFCON.
So one is the worst.
Perhaps, yeah.
One is the final.
I agree with that.
It doesn't make sense.
I agree with that.
I think, so let's look at that one more time
and evaluate it from five to one.
I think we might agree with that.
Culture will collapse, we just become animals.
And we don't care about each other.
Social collapses, well, I mean,
it kind of, four leads to five, actually.
So I don't know, man.
I don't know.
I don't know if I, I think.
Yeah, but let's put these in order.
Like, first of all, which one comes first?
Let's go with this.
Your, the government failing or the social charities failing?
I would say stage three is first.
That is political collapse.
That's where we are.
Where a total gridlock,
the government is completely ineffective,
spending money out of control.
I don't think so.
And that leads to.
I'd like to run out of toilet paper.
No, but to me, how irresponsible they are with our money
and printing money and inflation leads to financial collapse,
which leads to commercial collapse.
No, because commercial collapse is first.
We ran out of toilet paper before the political collapse.
Wow.
I mean, I think they're all,
they're all.
How about water?
Commodities like that.
Well, I think these, I don't know if these are stages.
I think these should be called signs.
I think they're signs.
These are signs, right?
So you're gonna have some financial collapse.
And you might have some happen, others happen.
I think they're all gonna be intermingled.
I agree.
Look, I apologize.
I need another beer.
I know we're only doing one and a half,
but I need another beer.
Okay.
I'm willing to give you your second half beer now.
That's not gonna work.
Under the condition.
No.
That you don't have a second half beer.
Because I only brought.
I only brought.
I'm going.
I have beer downstairs.
I'm gonna still.
That's not the point.
You know what the point is?
We had a pact.
Fuckers are at.
My house.
I give you a beer.
Shut the fuck up.
Give me a goddamn beer.
All right, tell you what.
Sean, give us a minute.
Jeff, what do you think?
Do you want to?
He's pulled a yellow card.
Oh, you don't get a yellow card.
You want a second beer.
Bro.
He muted.
Oh, nice.
Nice.
Okay, yeah, we're having a moment.
So you let us talk about it and we'll debate.
Yeah, he is totally muted.
What an asshole.
This is something we should have done
a long time ago, Mr. Producer.
He's be controlled right here.
You need to have a quick red button
right there next to you that is mute Sean.
That's funny.
You can unmute him.
We'll give him a beer.
Yeah.
Dicks.
I get enough abuse at work.
We all do.
Self-inflicted.
Doesn't matter.
Oh, man.
It's always a better way.
Hey, as long as this podcast is escapism for our listeners,
that's what I want us to be.
I want us to, when they have a shitty week of work,
you know what I mean?
Shitty day.
Yeah, shitty day, shitty week.
They come on here and listen to the collapse of society.
Yeah, five stages.
Yeah, actually now that I'm reflecting on it,
I'm not sure we are escapism.
You know one thing we never discussed,
which probably would have been worse.
I meant to talk about this,
but you know the clogs we were talking about from Holland?
Yes.
I wonder if they got any splinters.
Can you imagine?
Oh, I'm sure.
No.
Dude, the way they're designed,
there's no way they splinter.
I've been wearing clogs for hundreds of years
and no splinters.
Okay, are you saying they wore the same clogs
for hundreds of years?
No, all those people that have worn clogs.
Are you the authority on clogs now?
I am.
So you think it's like the human oils
that come off the skin that are in tune with the wood?
I think they sand the shit out of those.
They probably oil them,
but of the hundreds and thousands of clogs
that have been made and hundreds and thousands
of people that have worn them,
there's gotta be at least one splinter in there somewhere.
So I looked it up, there were two.
Two people.
I said at least one.
And one, and they were both defective from the same guy
that they ran out of the village.
And they both caught herpes from the splinter.
Could be.
Yeah, that part I didn't understand, but you're right.
Herpes simplex 12.
God.
All right.
What was your point in bringing up the clogs again?
You just trying to unwind?
You know, it just came to mind.
I was thinking, oh man, I'm gonna think about that
because if you think about the evolution of clogs as well,
because they went from clogs and then they broke down
where they have wooden heels.
And then they have wooden sandals where they have
a leather strap that has a heel and then a part
that goes under the ball of the foot,
where it leaves your arch suspended.
I just thought that was kinda cool.
Yeah, they're just weird.
I'd like to, at this point.
What would you like to do, pivot?
I'd like to pivot to our bourbon.
Oh.
Do do do, do do do.
Waa waa, waa waa, waa waa.
Anyway, we are drinking, I believe.
Sean, you pick this one up.
You see the look that Jeff gave us right there?
He's like, you guys are idiots.
Yeah, he's like, damn it.
I was looking at you that way too.
This is Knob Creek Single Barrel Reserve Nine Year.
Ooh.
So this is 120 proof.
And it says, I don't know what this site is from,
who is this?
I can't read that up there.
It says The Whiskey Ramble.
Ramble.com.
From the June 11th, 2023 version.
There you go.
Where are the nose?
So it says the nose leads, I don't know,
leads with roasted corn.
So the nose, roasted corn, and a, go ahead.
For light brown sugar, clove, and hints of anise,
which is a licorice, right?
Anise.
I've never seen that word before.
Nutty Wood note characteristics of Jim Beam.
Anise.
Heavily salted toffee almond and surprisingly savory.
Well, they gave a major shout out to Jim Beam right there.
Jim Beam makes this.
Oh, well, I know, I feel stupid.
Thanks, Jim Beam.
Anyway, God, pallet, oh no, palate.
Palate.
Palate, lovely viscosity.
Palate.
What kind of, what would you like this meat served on?
I'd like it served on a palate.
So, wow.
Second reference to clove.
Interesting.
So the lovely viscosity, the toffee forward with clove,
light brown sugar, it is the same God bless the thing
in the front one.
No it is.
The nose, well they say brown sugar.
This one says caramel.
Oh, caramel.
Balanced dose of oak.
Are you?
I was letting you finish it.
Well, yeah, you have to do every other word.
You're having like a stroke or something.
What's happening there?
I thought we were gonna do it like every other word.
Oh, okay.
Sets the finish up.
Can we stop doing this now?
Yes.
Keeping.
Ha ha ha ha.
No time at all for Jeff to be like, stop it.
Immediately, you children.
Squarely in the less sweet territory.
It's not real sweet.
It has some.
No, no, no, no, I don't think it's sweet.
It is a little bit, but not bad.
Yeah, for 120 proof.
It's nice.
It doesn't taste as volatile as you think it would be.
Oh, it's really nice.
Of course, I've been drinking benchmark bulletproof
all week.
All right, the finish, moderate, not overpowering,
barrel char with a bit of pepper and peanut butter toast,
lightly mellow and creamy vanilla.
Note, gradually emerges over time.
Creamy, creamy.
And it makes your pants slide right off.
What?
Is that, oh no, it doesn't say that.
Dude, what are you?
I mean, it sounds so erotic.
You're on a men's getaway weekend.
This is, so the mash bill is 77 corn,
13 rye and 10 malted barley.
Bum bum bum bum bum.
Only 60 bucks.
They gave it an A minus.
And I would agree.
Yeah.
Ladies and gentlemen, I'm gonna give this a 7.7.
Mm.
I'm thinking about 7.5.
It's pretty good.
It's very good.
Yeah, it's a good one.
Maybe 7.7, I'll go as high as 7.7.
Yeah.
It's good.
Thank you, Sean.
Sorry about that.
Yeah.
A little outstanding.
Yeah, I'm,
I'm gonna take another taste
and then I'll let you know, hold on.
And then ask for two more glasses and three more beers?
My God, man.
I'll do a 7.3.
Oh.
Throw out the low one.
You know what, it's not about low.
It's about me being fair.
And I think 7.3 is good.
I think it's a good bourbon.
Are you the Russian judge?
No, I'm just saying I think that 7.3 is solid.
I think that there are other bourbons out there
that just taste better and would score higher.
That's why.
This is still good though.
You know what, I continually rate these
against the Elijah Craig Barrel proofs that we get.
Ooh, as the bar.
As the count of the bar, right?
Yeah, that's that.
That was excellent.
I think we went eight and a half, almost nine on those.
Yeah, that was so good.
So that's kind of the bar for me.
And if it's good, close to that in the sevens, right?
It's not gonna get us up to an eight.
Well, Pinnock I think was an eight.
Yeah.
Pinnock was good.
Well, our producer gave it a 7.53, repeating.
Repeating, of course.
And I sent you a picture today.
No one commented on it.
Oh, that's the average.
Okay, so he did some math.
He averaged our three scores
and it turned out to 7.53, repeating.
All right, very nice.
Oh, the Pinnock?
Yes, they had four bottles of it.
Oh yeah, you sent something about that.
Where is that at?
Hold on, where was that at?
Those at Spex up in Prosper.
Why didn't you pick it up?
I would have paid for it.
All four bottles?
One at least.
92 bucks.
I would have paid for it, I'm sorry.
You know what?
Well, they had four.
How far was that place?
It's just around 380.
Why were you up there in Prosper?
To go to Quest to get some blood drawn.
And you just had to stop at the alcohol store?
Well, I realized I had to fast first
and I had some...
I had to fast first, but I needed to fix.
And it's like, look, an alcohol store.
Ah, hell, I'd piss on a spark plug if I knew it'd help.
Yeah, so I pulled out the paperwork
and said, you need to fast before this.
But I had a protein bar for breakfast.
I was like, fuck, I can't do that.
So I was like, I'm not gonna...
How can you have a protein bar for breakfast
if you're supposed to fast?
Because I went to the cardiologist today
to have my stress test.
How was that, by the way?
It was just to schedule fucking appointments.
Oh, so you didn't get on a bike or anything?
No, not today.
So that's scheduled.
So you wore the spandex and everything
and you had no idea they were gonna...
I was, I went in my bike uniform, the whole thing.
You had an 80s solid gold dancers outfit on,
little spandex shorts.
And your kids' shoes.
My turf shoes, yes.
You had the tube top or was it the tape top?
It was tube.
Your hair's all hanging out.
All right, Doc, I'm ready to run.
I'm fucking back hair hanging out.
So I was like, I don't wanna wait to step up here.
We're not running today, sir.
We're just scheduling an appointment.
I hit the specs and I saw that.
That was really the only one that interests me.
But they had four.
They'll have it tomorrow if you wanna go.
Well, you know what I mean?
Because there's a few people like Stan from Total Wine.
He wanted that bottle.
He wanted more.
They had four.
Because he doesn't have anymore.
They had four of them.
And there's a limit.
Is that the same bottle we have?
Yes.
We need to get that.
We need to.
Do we not have a backup to that?
Hold on, I don't think it is the same bottle.
Oh, we do have a backup.
Because I understood that Total Wine got their own shit.
It was a different version
than what they gave everybody else.
I disagree.
I don't know.
You'll have to verify that.
Yeah.
Why don't you go up there?
I do not know.
Go up there.
I'll stay up there tonight.
Go up there at 10 o'clock tomorrow.
We're playing a little apex late at night.
Probably between 11 and 1 in the morning.
Oh, you and your fan.
You can mention it to them then.
Yeah, it's a little fun.
If you guys are interested in playing apex
with dudes like me, I am DSMURFY.
Sloppy Wobby.
Gross.
I'm gonna revisit the Fall of Civilization real quick.
Because I'm reading the book right now.
You know the Terminal List?
The Amazon show?
Yes.
Well, it's based off of a book series.
And I'm reading the book series.
So this is book three or four.
And this one has to do with a bio weapon
who gets dropped, of all places, Richardson, Texas.
Oh my God.
And Denver, I believe.
And.
Two places?
Two places.
Yeah, they.
Richardson.
Richardson, yes.
What the hell?
And yeah, they're explaining the area around Richardson.
It's like, I don't know if that's 100% correct.
It's like a big, it's like a, probably a big bowl.
Bowl?
It's a little low in that area.
Anyway, so, and they talk about the final solution
that the president has to stop a virus from spreading.
Hold on, is this a, okay, so it's a video game
based on a book?
No, it's a book.
Oh.
Series that they've made the Amazon show out of.
Ah, okay.
The Chris Pratt show, if you saw it.
Was this new?
The Terminal List came out last year.
I'm trying to remember if I've seen The Terminal List.
I thought I did.
Remember they killed his family and he goes on a rampage?
Yes.
Cut some dudes.
Yes.
Intestinal.
Yes, well that's based off a book series.
Yes, I have seen.
And the author is an ex-seal.
And a lot of his books, as I said before,
a lot of his books are redacted.
Because he has to submit them to the.
Publisher.
No, the Department of Defense.
And they are like.
Because he has a lot of.
National security.
And he leaves them in.
So you'll see big swaths that are just blocked out.
He goes, I'm gonna leave them in.
Yeah, because you're gonna be pissed.
Yeah, so.
And you'll see how much you get blocked out.
So anyway.
And again.
It's a book, right?
So it's sensationalized.
This part wasn't blocked out.
So the final solution basically is.
To burn out the virus.
So if this one of the book is like 85, 90% lethal.
Right? Right.
So, and they're trying to decide.
I haven't finished the book yet.
They're trying to decide.
Is it airborne?
Or is it just manmade?
Someone forced it, right?
Right.
And if they can't answer that question.
The way they're gonna solve this.
Is they're gonna drop.
Huge.
The moab. Like a napalm.
Not, the largest conventional bomb out there.
Oh.
The fuel bomb.
Oh, the daisy cutter.
Yes.
And they will destroy the entire city.
And kill everyone in it.
In order to stop the virus.
Yeah, well I mean it's kinda like.
Escape from New York, right?
I mean you just gotta have to.
No, no.
No, I mean you have to like.
Oh, I mean fence everybody in.
Yeah, you gotta kill.
You gotta stop them right there.
This is basically.
This virus if we don't stop it.
It can kill the whole world.
I will kill.
Millions.
A million here.
Or 290 million if I don't.
That's awful.
That could totally happen.
So.
How come they didn't do that during COVID?
They probably thought about it.
Well COVID wasn't real.
So.
Well I know.
They probably thought about dropping a bomb on.
Well I mean it wasn't what they said it was gonna be for sure.
I mean it was a lie.
Didn't wanna get us derailed.
Anyway, continue.
So anyway.
It just kinda ties back to the book I'm reading.
That's one of our trigger words.
All you have to say is COVID.
Oh my God.
Well I mean it's just like.
It really.
Look it frustrates the planet.
It's not just us.
I mean.
It is.
I mean even the gentleman.
The army guy we're talking about
where he owed all this money.
I mean he was.
It's all the same shit.
I know.
You know they.
He's having to do something beyond his control.
It wasn't his fault that the dumb ass
pulled out of fucking Afghanistan the way he did.
You know.
The way Biden decided.
Hey they're gonna pull out.
I just.
I'm gonna trigger start.
Continue.
He shit the bed.
Anyway.
Wow.
Is that a political phrase or a critical term?
He shit the bed.
Yes.
So hold on.
So you were talking about Apex
and then you jumped to Terminal List.
Well I thought about it because.
The end of civilization is what you were talking about.
Well we talked about the end of civilization.
No we were talking about it.
The collapse of society.
Yes.
And.
In the book.
The US is starting to go.
Especially in those cities.
Declining.
The everybody.
Of course Antifa was protesting
the whole nine yards right.
So everyone wants to get out.
Yes.
Where this virus is.
And the military had them surrounded
and are shooting them.
Right.
When they're trying to get out.
Really.
Way to silence your phone.
And your watch.
And it makes you think if something like that happens.
Oh they have protocol for that.
I guarantee it.
That's what I mean.
There's a protocol but is there.
For sure.
Is there a protocol to say this virus is uncontainable.
Kill everybody in there.
Do I drop a bomb to kill that entire city.
Ooh.
There has to be a protocol for it.
But I don't think anybody has the balls to do it.
They just don't have the balls to do it.
I guarantee it.
I don't know.
Yeah.
That's what you get paid the big bucks for I guess.
Yeah.
Oh well.
As president.
For sure.
Big bucks but.
You know.
So okay.
I thought.
So I thought you were gonna talk about.
You know he was talking about Apex.
And I thought you were gonna talk about you know.
Hey I'm for free time.
For free time we're gonna start watching the terminal list.
I thought we were going.
Because that piqued my interest.
Because I am thinking of a new thing to do with my wife.
And apparently it's called co-opping or couch co-opping.
This is where you can play.
And then you guys are gonna be like seriously dude.
That's been around for decades.
Is there nudity involved?
No.
If you play video games.
Some impact share?
No no no.
You play video games on a split screen.
I've done some boys all the time.
Right I know.
I was gonna say you guys have been like oh my God.
I've been out here.
But.
Okay let me give you a little back story.
When Shelly and I first.
Before we were married.
We were engaged.
And I lived in a tiny little apartment in Dallas.
She was still going to A&M.
She was coming up every weekend.
I was going down every weekend.
And we played PlayStation.
We played like Zelda.
And we played Tomb Raider.
Tomb Raider.
And we loved it.
I mean we were so enamored with playing video games.
These games together.
That it was like.
Lara Croft.
You're kind of pointy in the original version.
But you know.
Anyway.
We.
Do you see that one scene where she was running?
Out of the ice cave?
I've actually never seen the movie I should.
Because it's.
Angelina Jolie.
Oh Angelina Jolie.
The way she's running.
It's like her body.
You see the legs and one two one.
Running.
The boobs.
No no no.
The boobs are like one.
The boobs are like one two three four five six seven eight.
One two three four five six seven six six six five four.
One two.
Fucking everywhere.
Like so.
They have a one two one.
They're like everywhere.
So not like Baywatch where it was like one and two.
There was no.
One.
There was not coordinated.
Bounce and bounce.
Yeah they did not coordinate.
Okay.
Anyway thanks for sharing.
Your boob analysis of Tomb Raider.
Anyway.
Anyway we loved it.
So we haven't done that in a long time.
We haven't played video games since.
And so I'm thinking well maybe we.
We do the split screen thing.
We watch TV every night.
That's what we do.
We watch Netflix.
We watch Amazon Prime.
There's a bunch of couch co-op games out there.
Couch co-op yes.
Borderlands was one of the ones.
I don't know if Shelly will get it to him.
But Borderlands was one that me and the boys really enjoyed.
Okay so would your wife ever consider playing a video game?
Not like that no.
With a split screen.
Instead of watching.
It has to be the right kind.
Most of them are shoot em ups.
She's not interested in that.
Yeah Shelly wouldn't be.
No we like problem solving.
Like Mario Kart's.
Like no like Zelda.
There's one called Portal.
That the boys really got into.
And it's problem solving.
You play two characters.
And.
At the same time.
On a split screen.
Yes.
See I would love to play that with my wife.
It's called Portal.
Yeah right there.
That would be so much fun.
One person has to do something
in order to get the other person to help.
And the boys loved it.
Okay I love it.
Okay well and it doesn't have to be that game.
But I've decided I am going to.
That's our Christmas thing.
I'm gonna.
So Dylan had a PlayStation.
I didn't even know.
He was like dude I got a PlayStation in my trunk.
I'm not using it.
He was like.
And he brought it in from his car.
I mean they came over last night right.
This is our pre Thanksgiving get together.
Since the boys are in town and stuff.
Anyway but yeah so he just dropped off a PlayStation.
I'm gonna go get some games.
I need to buy some controllers I guess.
Do you buy used controllers?
You can.
What do you recommend there Sean?
Used controllers?
New controllers?
Yeah and so what kind of games?
Is it PlayStation?
Yeah gay first of all.
Yeah you gotta buy new controllers.
That's all you got.
Okay the new controllers that.
They're 50 bucks pop.
Alright I'll do that.
You know another good one that you may want
to be interested in is called Little Big Planet.
It's on Sony.
And I think it's Cloud Co-op.
If not Shelly would like that.
That's puzzle solving.
Whatever yeah whatever you got.
Go to the store on the PlayStation device
or Xbox device.
Yeah Little Big Planet.
There are hundreds and hundreds of different games
that you can get.
Yep.
And they've got specialized games for groups.
You know there are some party games that you can have
and there's some trivia and you can have teams.
Yeah.
And you have your phone and you tether it to the game.
Yeah yeah.
And so you don't necessarily have to have controllers.
You're talking about getting everybody control.
If you do like trivia stuff they have these games
that you can just tap in with your phone.
There's an app you download
and you can literally answer right there.
That was so good.
I just pulled the last pull of our Knob Creek.
That was amazing.
Yeah.
Anyway so yeah Couch Co-op.
I'm super excited.
Yeah Diablo is another good one.
Again she may not like.
You got to find the ones she's gonna enjoy.
No no no no no.
I totally agree.
Totally agree.
Anyway I'm excited because we loved it when we were young.
Right.
Before kids.
And we look back on it fondly.
We for the weekend we stayed in our underwear
the entire weekend.
We took turns going to the bathroom
because we were figuring out stuff.
We just figured out if you step on this stone
it opens the door.
Hold on.
It opens the door.
Really?
You took turns going to the bathroom.
We did.
We totally did.
We were so.
What does that mean?
Were you guys constantly in the bathroom?
No.
No no it's your turn.
Your turn.
No meaning we were both playing the game so intensely.
So do you guys make a habit going to the bathroom together?
I mean why is that extraordinary that you took turns?
You're missing the point.
It was like if one of us needed to go to the bathroom
it was like you know.
Somebody's gotta take over.
Yes.
Oh come on.
Like if she.
I'm dead serious.
That's how into these games we were playing.
She's in there cutting logs and you're like
it's my turn I have to go now.
No no.
You know it wasn't like that.
Let's play tic tac toe.
And I will go.
It wasn't like that.
No pinch it pinch it.
You made your ex too big.
God damn it.
You guys are ruining a very special moment that we had.
And I'm sorry.
Lincoln logs right?
Very sad I brought it up.
Anyway I'm excited about that.
Well there are some games out but I would explore that.
You know I mean if you want to.
I would recommend that you go out
and drop 50 bucks per controller.
I think that's a little bit of a waste.
I think you ought to do a little bit of research.
Find out what games.
We went over to somebody's house.
Because you guys want to do like trivia
and puzzles and shit like that right?
Well I mean we have a PlayStation console.
We're gonna use it for couch co-op.
We have to have controllers.
Well I mean do you have any controllers?
No.
Oh why not?
Because the game system was just given to us by Dylan.
Oh.
He kept the controllers.
Yeah he kept the controllers.
Gotcha.
Yeah.
Is it a new one like a PS5?
Uh I think it's a four.
That's what I have.
I have a four.
Yeah well.
Anyway he gave it to us.
He was like I bought a new one.
I don't need this.
Yeah so I'm gonna get two controllers.
I got a PS4 we can play games together.
There we go.
The PS4 will work well for those types of games.
Yeah.
Absolutely.
So there's no need to go out and spend money
for the beefier PlayStation 5.
No I just need the standard controllers.
Like the shoot em up games where you need all that shit.
You know.
Dude I can't do shoot em up games anyway.
It's like it's so difficult it's like forget it.
I don't understand.
I know.
You have to duck and crawl and climb and jump and shoot.
Slide.
And meanwhile everybody.
Slide.
All these nine year olds.
Slide is the best.
All these nine year olds are like flying through the sky
and shooting you 10 times before you even know how to duck.
When you first spawn.
Yeah.
Spawn dead.
But if you're with me I'd be able to revive you pretty quick.
Yeah that got old.
To be the needy please revive me guy.
Cause sometimes.
And then John's like can't you at least run to the rock
and hide.
I told you the story.
When I played Call of Duty with my sons.
I was like where am I going?
Dad follow me.
I'm the guy with the thing over my head.
Oh okay.
And then I'm running into a tree.
It's important to have a person like Paul.
I'm running in place in a tree.
We will send Paul out into the middle.
And I'm like I can't go anywhere.
Dad you gotta fucking move you're in a tree.
We'll send Paul out to the middle of the field.
It was so aggravating.
And he will pull aggro.
He will have everyone's attention on him.
And while they're shooting him we snipe em.
Yes.
And we just pop the shit out of him.
So it's like.
I get it.
If you want me to be.
Guys.
You'll be the bait.
I'll be the bait.
Yeah.
Cause I can tell you.
And I'll run out there and revive you real quick.
Every 13 seconds I had blood running down my screen.
Which means I was shot and bleeding out.
And they were like oh my god dad.
We gotta revive you again.
Well they were complaining.
Yes.
They were like dude kids you just.
The kids get so upset.
They were.
They get so upset.
Part of the game man.
Have fun.
I'll tell you what the biggest thing about these games.
You enjoy them or you don't enjoy them.
If you don't enjoy them just don't play them.
I enjoy them.
I enjoy all kinds of games.
We don't play them.
Well.
You know.
Dudes Like Us.
It is two days before Thanksgiving.
Yeah.
Super super excited.
I wanna say thank you.
We haven't even talked about Thanksgiving yet.
No.
We should do that when we find out.
We're going to turkey lurky.
Wanna thank our producer Mr. Austin behind the wheels.
Yeah.
Pulling up on the topics being on top of things.
Yeah sure.
It is November 21st Dudes Like Us.
I'm Sean.
I'm Pablo.
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