1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:10,760 Alright. 2 00:00:10,760 --> 00:00:11,760 We are back. 3 00:00:11,760 --> 00:00:14,040 Mr. Producer, is your headphones, I guess they're not working. 4 00:00:14,040 --> 00:00:15,440 They didn't work, would you try to run? 5 00:00:15,440 --> 00:00:17,920 He said there was some static working through them. 6 00:00:17,920 --> 00:00:20,320 They're the skull candies, I think. 7 00:00:20,320 --> 00:00:21,320 So they're... 8 00:00:21,320 --> 00:00:22,320 Alright, well. 9 00:00:22,320 --> 00:00:25,080 As long as we don't hear it, we should be fine. 10 00:00:25,080 --> 00:00:28,600 Well we've taken a hiatus for like, three weeks? 11 00:00:28,600 --> 00:00:29,600 Three weeks. 12 00:00:29,600 --> 00:00:30,600 Was it three weeks? 13 00:00:30,600 --> 00:00:32,720 I know I was out two weeks. 14 00:00:32,720 --> 00:00:33,720 Two weeks. 15 00:00:33,720 --> 00:00:34,720 I was out the week before. 16 00:00:34,720 --> 00:00:35,720 So. 17 00:00:35,720 --> 00:00:36,720 Yeah. 18 00:00:36,720 --> 00:00:37,720 There you go. 19 00:00:37,720 --> 00:00:38,720 Because I'm a working man. 20 00:00:38,720 --> 00:00:41,720 October 5th was our last podcast. 21 00:00:41,720 --> 00:00:44,080 And it is now the 25th. 22 00:00:44,080 --> 00:00:47,080 So yeah, three weeks. 23 00:00:47,080 --> 00:00:48,440 A lot has happened. 24 00:00:48,440 --> 00:00:51,040 The world has changed since we last had a podcast. 25 00:00:51,040 --> 00:00:52,040 Oh, hugely, man. 26 00:00:52,040 --> 00:00:57,080 But before we jump into that, we want to thank our producer for showing up. 27 00:00:57,080 --> 00:01:00,000 We moved the podcast a different day. 28 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:03,440 And, anyway, dudes like us, I'm Sean. 29 00:01:03,440 --> 00:01:04,440 I'm Paul. 30 00:01:04,440 --> 00:01:06,080 And I am Jeff. 31 00:01:06,080 --> 00:01:07,080 And welcome. 32 00:01:07,080 --> 00:01:08,080 We have a couple guests here. 33 00:01:08,080 --> 00:01:09,080 We don't know if they're going to talk or not. 34 00:01:09,080 --> 00:01:11,920 But they are dudettes. 35 00:01:11,920 --> 00:01:14,480 And they want to be a dudette like us. 36 00:01:14,480 --> 00:01:16,680 And if you want to introduce yourself, just go for it. 37 00:01:16,680 --> 00:01:17,680 I'm Anne. 38 00:01:17,680 --> 00:01:18,680 I'm Sue. 39 00:01:18,680 --> 00:01:19,680 There you go. 40 00:01:19,680 --> 00:01:20,680 Alright. 41 00:01:20,680 --> 00:01:21,680 They want to create their own podcast. 42 00:01:21,680 --> 00:01:23,680 So they're here observing professionals. 43 00:01:23,680 --> 00:01:24,680 And Sue. 44 00:01:24,680 --> 00:01:26,680 The best of the best. 45 00:01:26,680 --> 00:01:29,520 And very macaroni and cheese names. 46 00:01:29,520 --> 00:01:31,640 I mean, very classic cliche. 47 00:01:31,640 --> 00:01:35,160 It's like see Jane run with Anne and Sue. 48 00:01:35,160 --> 00:01:40,560 Yeah, so they first wanted to just watch and see the setup and stuff. 49 00:01:40,560 --> 00:01:41,560 But we said, uh-uh. 50 00:01:41,560 --> 00:01:42,960 If you're going to do this, you've got to be in here. 51 00:01:42,960 --> 00:01:43,960 Head first. 52 00:01:43,960 --> 00:01:44,960 So head first. 53 00:01:44,960 --> 00:01:45,960 There you go. 54 00:01:45,960 --> 00:01:46,960 I guess we need to practice right away. 55 00:01:46,960 --> 00:01:47,960 So jump ball in. 56 00:01:47,960 --> 00:01:48,960 There you go. 57 00:01:48,960 --> 00:01:49,960 It's just having a conversation, right? 58 00:01:49,960 --> 00:01:51,600 No one is listening right now except us. 59 00:01:51,600 --> 00:01:53,320 So we're not live or anything. 60 00:01:53,320 --> 00:01:54,320 So. 61 00:01:54,320 --> 00:01:55,320 Yep. 62 00:01:55,320 --> 00:01:56,320 So dudes like us. 63 00:01:56,320 --> 00:02:00,560 So the premise was just to talk about everyday life that dudes like us go to. 64 00:02:00,560 --> 00:02:01,960 And dude ads doesn't really matter. 65 00:02:01,960 --> 00:02:03,480 Just normal thresholds in life. 66 00:02:03,480 --> 00:02:07,960 Kids growing up, how we grew up, toys that we played with, songs that we enjoy. 67 00:02:07,960 --> 00:02:08,960 Movies. 68 00:02:08,960 --> 00:02:09,960 Movies. 69 00:02:09,960 --> 00:02:12,120 We dip into politics. 70 00:02:12,120 --> 00:02:13,120 We do. 71 00:02:13,120 --> 00:02:18,200 We talk about politics a lot because dudes like us out there are affected from the current 72 00:02:18,200 --> 00:02:19,400 politics that are going on. 73 00:02:19,400 --> 00:02:21,600 Doesn't matter what side of the fence you're on. 74 00:02:21,600 --> 00:02:22,600 It all sucks right now. 75 00:02:22,600 --> 00:02:23,600 So it's frustrating. 76 00:02:23,600 --> 00:02:24,600 Yeah. 77 00:02:24,600 --> 00:02:26,000 It's on our minds a lot. 78 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:28,240 So naturally we talk about it. 79 00:02:28,240 --> 00:02:33,160 Another perspective of the dudes like us podcast that we introduce to the folks out there are 80 00:02:33,160 --> 00:02:34,200 our bourbons. 81 00:02:34,200 --> 00:02:40,200 So we introduce a bourbon on the first half and we introduce a bourbon on the second half. 82 00:02:40,200 --> 00:02:46,120 And we don't ask for, it'd be nice if we got some sort of promotional, you know, a swag 83 00:02:46,120 --> 00:02:47,120 that they can send us. 84 00:02:47,120 --> 00:02:48,120 Merch. 85 00:02:48,120 --> 00:02:49,120 Yeah, merch. 86 00:02:49,120 --> 00:02:52,200 We'd have a lot of every one of those distilleries out there send us something. 87 00:02:52,200 --> 00:02:53,200 Yeah. 88 00:02:53,200 --> 00:02:55,120 That's why I'm doing this. 89 00:02:55,120 --> 00:02:59,760 I'll tell you one of the coolest things that I enjoy about dudes like us will be size of 90 00:02:59,760 --> 00:03:01,320 podcast, which is it is fun. 91 00:03:01,320 --> 00:03:05,240 It is therapeutic for us because we get out there and we talk and we get it off our chest 92 00:03:05,240 --> 00:03:07,440 and and I really get it off the chest. 93 00:03:07,440 --> 00:03:11,200 In fact, like Jeff said, is super true. 94 00:03:11,200 --> 00:03:13,800 Half the shit I say is deleted. 95 00:03:13,800 --> 00:03:19,180 No, but when we get through the bourbons at the end of the bottle's life, we dump the 96 00:03:19,180 --> 00:03:22,080 remainder into what they call an infinity bottle. 97 00:03:22,080 --> 00:03:23,080 Right. 98 00:03:23,080 --> 00:03:26,520 So the infinity bottle we talk about once in a blue moon, but some of those dudes like 99 00:03:26,520 --> 00:03:30,840 us listeners out there that are regular listeners, there's no exactly what we're referring to. 100 00:03:30,840 --> 00:03:32,760 And we got it like the bottle is two thirds full. 101 00:03:32,760 --> 00:03:34,720 It's probably got about it looks beautiful. 102 00:03:34,720 --> 00:03:39,940 Close to 30 different great tasting bourbons are all included in there, roughly anywhere 103 00:03:39,940 --> 00:03:43,100 from one to five ounces per bottle. 104 00:03:43,100 --> 00:03:47,280 So when we get to the end of a bottle that we've sampled, like once or twice, or maybe 105 00:03:47,280 --> 00:03:50,640 maybe three times is not enough to go around three more times. 106 00:03:50,640 --> 00:03:53,280 So we take that remainder and dump it in the jug. 107 00:03:53,280 --> 00:03:54,280 Right. 108 00:03:54,280 --> 00:03:55,280 And the jug is the infinity bottle. 109 00:03:55,280 --> 00:03:57,240 And each jug is a gallon. 110 00:03:57,240 --> 00:03:59,760 So we almost have a full gallon of it. 111 00:03:59,760 --> 00:04:01,560 And every once in a while we sample it. 112 00:04:01,560 --> 00:04:03,280 And it's amazing. 113 00:04:03,280 --> 00:04:04,880 It changes every time you put something new in there. 114 00:04:04,880 --> 00:04:05,880 So I bet. 115 00:04:05,880 --> 00:04:07,320 Yeah, really, really good. 116 00:04:07,320 --> 00:04:09,960 Who gets to keep the jug at their house? 117 00:04:09,960 --> 00:04:10,960 It's here. 118 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:11,960 It's here. 119 00:04:11,960 --> 00:04:12,960 It doesn't leave here. 120 00:04:12,960 --> 00:04:15,280 And I think it doesn't get any camera on it. 121 00:04:15,280 --> 00:04:18,200 24, 7, no one touches our system. 122 00:04:18,200 --> 00:04:19,800 Yeah, they would know. 123 00:04:19,800 --> 00:04:23,560 I think they market every time. 124 00:04:23,560 --> 00:04:24,560 We have to. 125 00:04:24,560 --> 00:04:27,480 Anyway, so yeah, my kids are not in the house anymore. 126 00:04:27,480 --> 00:04:30,960 So I think that's why the Bourbons are here and stuff like that. 127 00:04:30,960 --> 00:04:33,160 So no one's drinking it. 128 00:04:33,160 --> 00:04:34,160 All good. 129 00:04:34,160 --> 00:04:35,160 All right. 130 00:04:35,160 --> 00:04:38,040 Did you find all right, we'll hit this in a minute. 131 00:04:38,040 --> 00:04:39,040 Yes. 132 00:04:39,040 --> 00:04:44,120 He was he was our producer was trying to pull it up and it is a so unique proprietary bottle. 133 00:04:44,120 --> 00:04:46,240 So they don't have a whole lot of information on it. 134 00:04:46,240 --> 00:04:47,240 Very unique. 135 00:04:47,240 --> 00:04:48,240 Cool. 136 00:04:48,240 --> 00:04:51,800 And I'm sure you probably reading the back, so I hope your eyes. 137 00:04:51,800 --> 00:04:54,560 It's like, no, we'll do that later. 138 00:04:54,560 --> 00:04:56,320 That's just a gold blur. 139 00:04:56,320 --> 00:04:59,880 Why has it been so long? 140 00:04:59,880 --> 00:05:00,880 What happened? 141 00:05:00,880 --> 00:05:01,880 Let's see. 142 00:05:01,880 --> 00:05:02,880 You went somewhere. 143 00:05:02,880 --> 00:05:03,880 Well, you were out the first week, I thought, right? 144 00:05:03,880 --> 00:05:04,880 I was working. 145 00:05:04,880 --> 00:05:05,880 I was working. 146 00:05:05,880 --> 00:05:07,960 But then you went on a couple of trips. 147 00:05:07,960 --> 00:05:10,280 I went to work related. 148 00:05:10,280 --> 00:05:11,680 I had work related trip. 149 00:05:11,680 --> 00:05:19,920 I was out in the South Carolina areas for a week and then I went to visit my dad out 150 00:05:19,920 --> 00:05:20,920 at Lake Tahoe. 151 00:05:20,920 --> 00:05:24,720 Did you sight see at all out in Carolinas or was it work work work? 152 00:05:24,720 --> 00:05:27,200 Oh, the airport is eight to five thirty every single day. 153 00:05:27,200 --> 00:05:28,200 Really? 154 00:05:28,200 --> 00:05:31,080 There wasn't like a team building thing where you go to the beach. 155 00:05:31,080 --> 00:05:33,280 No, you have crappy management. 156 00:05:33,280 --> 00:05:35,960 No, they got to hang out at a bar. 157 00:05:35,960 --> 00:05:39,480 Well, yeah, we'd go out to a nice dinner and have a drink or two. 158 00:05:39,480 --> 00:05:41,920 And then anyone get blown up? 159 00:05:41,920 --> 00:05:45,720 No, although it's not a good idea at a work function. 160 00:05:45,720 --> 00:05:50,080 Well, you know, Jeff, he'll go to the back of the kitchen and pull a big old box and 161 00:05:50,080 --> 00:05:52,560 lay cardboard out, start breakdancing for everybody. 162 00:05:52,560 --> 00:05:53,560 Right. 163 00:05:53,560 --> 00:05:55,560 I don't think that right now. 164 00:05:55,560 --> 00:06:01,840 But we did get to enjoy because one of the team members came up from Mexico City and 165 00:06:01,840 --> 00:06:04,760 she brought in an outstanding bottle of tequila. 166 00:06:04,760 --> 00:06:05,760 Oh, nice. 167 00:06:05,760 --> 00:06:09,400 It's about 200 bucks here in the states for the bottle. 168 00:06:09,400 --> 00:06:10,400 Yes. 169 00:06:10,400 --> 00:06:11,400 Wow. 170 00:06:11,400 --> 00:06:12,640 And 1842 or something like that? 171 00:06:12,640 --> 00:06:14,120 No, it wasn't 1842. 172 00:06:14,120 --> 00:06:19,200 It was well, the other guy who was there says it's even better than 1842. 173 00:06:19,200 --> 00:06:24,280 It's Jose Cuervo Reserve, I think. 174 00:06:24,280 --> 00:06:29,840 I sent you guys a picture of it is one of those aged in a yeah. 175 00:06:29,840 --> 00:06:32,120 It's extremely aged and in Yeho. 176 00:06:32,120 --> 00:06:35,520 Oh, I was actually I was going to say in 1942. 177 00:06:35,520 --> 00:06:36,800 I think that's what it is. 178 00:06:36,800 --> 00:06:37,800 No, it's. 179 00:06:37,800 --> 00:06:39,600 It's Jose Cuervo Reserve. 180 00:06:39,600 --> 00:06:41,160 They left Amelia. 181 00:06:41,160 --> 00:06:42,160 Oh, wow. 182 00:06:42,160 --> 00:06:43,160 You sound authentic. 183 00:06:43,160 --> 00:06:46,720 Yeah, it was does not taste like very good at all. 184 00:06:46,720 --> 00:06:48,720 It was like a like a. 185 00:06:48,720 --> 00:06:49,720 That's what's interesting. 186 00:06:49,720 --> 00:06:52,680 These aged tequilas are the furthest thing from what you know. 187 00:06:52,680 --> 00:06:56,200 I mean, I mean, if you're sitting there and you're tasting it, you maybe ought to pick 188 00:06:56,200 --> 00:07:02,080 up a little hint of that tequila flavor, but it was sweet butterscotch caramels. 189 00:07:02,080 --> 00:07:03,080 Nothing like a bourbon. 190 00:07:03,080 --> 00:07:04,080 Right. 191 00:07:04,080 --> 00:07:06,200 But that's because it's got the. 192 00:07:06,200 --> 00:07:08,160 It was outside the agave plant in there. 193 00:07:08,160 --> 00:07:09,440 It's got that distinct flavor. 194 00:07:09,440 --> 00:07:12,200 I really enjoy tequilas. 195 00:07:12,200 --> 00:07:16,000 But if you've been the. 196 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:20,400 I'm to keep the yeah, they're they're a little bit different. 197 00:07:20,400 --> 00:07:23,600 They kind of they pull something you never, never touch again. 198 00:07:23,600 --> 00:07:24,920 No, well, I won't get. 199 00:07:24,920 --> 00:07:25,920 We all have that right. 200 00:07:25,920 --> 00:07:29,680 I mean, back in college, it was like, oh, my God, I had mad dog and I could never ever 201 00:07:29,680 --> 00:07:30,680 ever. 202 00:07:30,680 --> 00:07:32,800 Well, back in college, it was usually it was just gut rot. 203 00:07:32,800 --> 00:07:33,800 Oh, yeah. 204 00:07:33,800 --> 00:07:34,800 Something horrible. 205 00:07:34,800 --> 00:08:00,400 It was like the 206 00:08:00,400 --> 00:08:02,920 what's what's been some of the major things that have happened. 207 00:08:02,920 --> 00:08:03,920 Let's see. 208 00:08:03,920 --> 00:08:04,920 I mean, right out of the gate. 209 00:08:04,920 --> 00:08:11,480 I mean, we've got a huge event happening overseas in Israel with the attack on the Gaza Strip. 210 00:08:11,480 --> 00:08:16,360 You know, that's that that has like possibly global implications. 211 00:08:16,360 --> 00:08:19,800 I've been watching this stuff where it's like, you know, they always say, well, we're three. 212 00:08:19,800 --> 00:08:20,800 How can we start? 213 00:08:20,800 --> 00:08:21,800 Right. 214 00:08:21,800 --> 00:08:22,800 I mean, what would have to happen? 215 00:08:22,800 --> 00:08:23,800 Who would have to do this and who would have to do that? 216 00:08:23,800 --> 00:08:25,600 Man, I'll tell you what. 217 00:08:25,600 --> 00:08:28,400 They had a guest on the Tucker show, Carl Tucker. 218 00:08:28,400 --> 00:08:30,760 No, Tucker Carlson, Carl Tucker. 219 00:08:30,760 --> 00:08:35,520 Yeah, and and there was some colonel and, you know, I had no idea who he was, but he 220 00:08:35,520 --> 00:08:40,640 started laying out like what like what has to happen. 221 00:08:40,640 --> 00:08:42,760 And it was it was scary. 222 00:08:42,760 --> 00:08:43,760 It was scary. 223 00:08:43,760 --> 00:08:45,280 How Colonel Douglas McGregor? 224 00:08:45,280 --> 00:08:46,280 Yes. 225 00:08:46,280 --> 00:08:47,280 And I don't know. 226 00:08:47,280 --> 00:08:50,240 It was, you know, we don't have to go into all of that. 227 00:08:50,240 --> 00:08:51,880 But because it's kind of depressing. 228 00:08:51,880 --> 00:08:56,560 But I think these these terrorists knew exactly what they were doing. 229 00:08:56,560 --> 00:09:02,340 I think they knew exactly how Israel was going to respond and they were hoping that it causes 230 00:09:02,340 --> 00:09:08,640 so much of a of a, you know, an outrage among Muslim countries in the world that for the 231 00:09:08,640 --> 00:09:15,640 first time, Shia and Sunni and Shia Muslims put aside their differences and unite in a 232 00:09:15,640 --> 00:09:16,640 cause. 233 00:09:16,640 --> 00:09:17,640 I don't know if that's going to happen. 234 00:09:17,640 --> 00:09:18,640 If that happens. 235 00:09:18,640 --> 00:09:24,320 I don't know if that's going to happen, though, because the Palestinian people, as I listen 236 00:09:24,320 --> 00:09:29,120 to this stuff, there are Muslim camps that you don't want the Palestinian people to write 237 00:09:29,120 --> 00:09:30,120 Egypt. 238 00:09:30,120 --> 00:09:31,840 Egypt doesn't want them. 239 00:09:31,840 --> 00:09:32,840 Jordan doesn't want them. 240 00:09:32,840 --> 00:09:33,840 Lebanon doesn't want them. 241 00:09:33,840 --> 00:09:37,280 That's because nobody wants to touch the toxicity of Hamas. 242 00:09:37,280 --> 00:09:41,360 I mean, and the rabble of Hamas has not been the leader for forever. 243 00:09:41,360 --> 00:09:42,360 No, they haven't. 244 00:09:42,360 --> 00:09:43,360 But they've been around. 245 00:09:43,360 --> 00:09:44,360 They've been there. 246 00:09:44,360 --> 00:09:45,360 They're there. 247 00:09:45,360 --> 00:09:46,360 Quote unquote, elected now. 248 00:09:46,360 --> 00:09:49,360 Well, they've got Dominion voting machines. 249 00:09:49,360 --> 00:09:52,680 Hanging Chad's hanging Chad's. 250 00:09:52,680 --> 00:09:54,760 That's how they got in. 251 00:09:54,760 --> 00:09:55,960 I know it. 252 00:09:55,960 --> 00:09:57,760 So you have that whole thing. 253 00:09:57,760 --> 00:10:01,040 But then I also think, well, maybe they don't want that. 254 00:10:01,040 --> 00:10:05,840 And they want the Palestinian people to be there in conflict just to create the conflict. 255 00:10:05,840 --> 00:10:06,840 100%. 256 00:10:06,840 --> 00:10:08,600 That's exactly right. 257 00:10:08,600 --> 00:10:14,680 Even the son of the Hamas founder said they couldn't care less about the Palestinian people. 258 00:10:14,680 --> 00:10:21,640 Their sole goal is to form the caliphate. 259 00:10:21,640 --> 00:10:28,400 Is to bring the Muslim empire back to its grandiose existence. 260 00:10:28,400 --> 00:10:31,600 And they can't do that unless the Muslim world unites. 261 00:10:31,600 --> 00:10:35,960 And so they keep the Palestinian people in this hotbed of. 262 00:10:35,960 --> 00:10:37,440 State of flux, right? 263 00:10:37,440 --> 00:10:38,440 Yes. 264 00:10:38,440 --> 00:10:39,880 Well, it's transferring over to the United States. 265 00:10:39,880 --> 00:10:45,080 I mean, they've got these representations throughout the United States. 266 00:10:45,080 --> 00:10:47,120 Yeah, what's up with all these colleges, man? 267 00:10:47,120 --> 00:10:48,680 All these colleges, all these people are pro. 268 00:10:48,680 --> 00:10:56,560 There are folks out there that are Muslims that are outright saying that they want to 269 00:10:56,560 --> 00:10:58,640 take over the United States. 270 00:10:58,640 --> 00:11:02,200 And they want to have Muslim religion in every household. 271 00:11:02,200 --> 00:11:04,920 And we will, quote unquote. 272 00:11:04,920 --> 00:11:06,200 They're going to force it. 273 00:11:06,200 --> 00:11:08,120 So it's just. 274 00:11:08,120 --> 00:11:09,120 That's their long game. 275 00:11:09,120 --> 00:11:10,120 It's just not cool. 276 00:11:10,120 --> 00:11:11,120 That's their long game. 277 00:11:11,120 --> 00:11:19,800 But still, these these these these college uprisings, whatever you call them, ridiculous. 278 00:11:19,800 --> 00:11:21,480 I mean, and they're not all Muslim. 279 00:11:21,480 --> 00:11:23,640 These are the woke, well, this is what I know. 280 00:11:23,640 --> 00:11:30,120 Younger crowd that is like and is I think these are the same people who. 281 00:11:30,120 --> 00:11:31,960 Think men can be women, right? 282 00:11:31,960 --> 00:11:36,080 The whole thing is the same group of folks who do this. 283 00:11:36,080 --> 00:11:40,800 And I don't I don't understand the immediate attachment to Hamas. 284 00:11:40,800 --> 00:11:41,800 Why support that? 285 00:11:41,800 --> 00:11:44,040 Did you see what they did? 286 00:11:44,040 --> 00:11:46,240 So they would say they don't support Hamas. 287 00:11:46,240 --> 00:11:49,880 They are supporting Palestine and the Palestinians. 288 00:11:49,880 --> 00:11:54,180 And Israel brought this on themselves because they occupied them and brutalized them. 289 00:11:54,180 --> 00:11:55,180 What else do they have? 290 00:11:55,180 --> 00:11:56,180 What choice do they have? 291 00:11:56,180 --> 00:11:57,880 This is this is the only way that they can fight back. 292 00:11:57,880 --> 00:11:58,880 They don't occupy them. 293 00:11:58,880 --> 00:11:59,880 They said, here's Gaza. 294 00:11:59,880 --> 00:12:00,880 This is where you live. 295 00:12:00,880 --> 00:12:01,880 Absolutely. 296 00:12:01,880 --> 00:12:02,880 They're not occupied. 297 00:12:02,880 --> 00:12:03,880 No, they are not. 298 00:12:03,880 --> 00:12:07,120 Here's your here's your country or whatever you want to call it. 299 00:12:07,120 --> 00:12:08,120 And rule yourself. 300 00:12:08,120 --> 00:12:10,560 And they elected Hamas to rule them. 301 00:12:10,560 --> 00:12:12,280 This is what you get. 302 00:12:12,280 --> 00:12:13,280 They did. 303 00:12:13,280 --> 00:12:14,280 I know it. 304 00:12:14,280 --> 00:12:15,280 It's crazy. 305 00:12:15,280 --> 00:12:16,280 Anyway, but I don't understand. 306 00:12:16,280 --> 00:12:20,040 I don't understand the even in the Hollywood, although they're starting to take this back 307 00:12:20,040 --> 00:12:29,320 because they're starting to get shit is the pro Palestine slash Hamas support from Hollywood, 308 00:12:29,320 --> 00:12:31,240 from these professors. 309 00:12:31,240 --> 00:12:33,720 Professors aren't really backing down now. 310 00:12:33,720 --> 00:12:38,480 But I don't understand the I don't know if it's a knee jerk reaction or what the reasoning 311 00:12:38,480 --> 00:12:43,680 is to be anti-Semitic slash anti-Jew at this point. 312 00:12:43,680 --> 00:12:44,680 I know it. 313 00:12:44,680 --> 00:12:50,120 And it's an interesting dynamic because you're seeing the Jewish Jewish celebrities and Jewish, 314 00:12:50,120 --> 00:12:52,600 you know, Jewish sports people. 315 00:12:52,600 --> 00:12:57,440 I mean, they write they're the ones like calling them out and saying, why are you being pro 316 00:12:57,440 --> 00:12:58,760 Palestinian on this deal? 317 00:12:58,760 --> 00:13:00,040 Did you see what Hamas did? 318 00:13:00,040 --> 00:13:01,040 Right. 319 00:13:01,040 --> 00:13:02,760 I mean, and there are a lot of these people are liberal. 320 00:13:02,760 --> 00:13:06,380 They're liberal Jewish people fighting liberal. 321 00:13:06,380 --> 00:13:07,680 It's a very interesting dynamic. 322 00:13:07,680 --> 00:13:08,680 They're eating themselves. 323 00:13:08,680 --> 00:13:10,120 They're eating themselves. 324 00:13:10,120 --> 00:13:17,400 And I look back at like you pan is an exceptionally egregious one, right, who has said some really 325 00:13:17,400 --> 00:13:19,280 bad things to professors there. 326 00:13:19,280 --> 00:13:25,000 And I'm thinking, what about a lot of a lot of Jewish students go to these schools? 327 00:13:25,000 --> 00:13:26,280 Sure. 328 00:13:26,280 --> 00:13:29,960 That entire Jewish community, how do they feel when when they're walking the class and 329 00:13:29,960 --> 00:13:30,960 they see this going on? 330 00:13:30,960 --> 00:13:31,960 I've got to be furious. 331 00:13:31,960 --> 00:13:34,760 Well, I'll be petrified as well. 332 00:13:34,760 --> 00:13:35,760 Oh, yeah. 333 00:13:35,760 --> 00:13:36,760 Not safe. 334 00:13:36,760 --> 00:13:37,760 You're right. 335 00:13:37,760 --> 00:13:44,280 And and I know there's a lot of big time donors starting to pull funds. 336 00:13:44,280 --> 00:13:47,320 Yeah, that that's when it's going to hurt. 337 00:13:47,320 --> 00:13:49,920 That's what it was in Harvard. 338 00:13:49,920 --> 00:13:53,160 Harvard lost some major Harvard did. 339 00:13:53,160 --> 00:13:56,600 There's going to take the sleeping giant needs to stand up. 340 00:13:56,600 --> 00:14:03,160 And the Christian population needs to stand up and they need to pull a Bud Light. 341 00:14:03,160 --> 00:14:05,480 And look, pull a Bud Light. 342 00:14:05,480 --> 00:14:06,800 Well, you got Woody. 343 00:14:06,800 --> 00:14:07,800 What is the name? 344 00:14:07,800 --> 00:14:12,000 Wood, Woody Carlson said his name to the white man can't jump guy. 345 00:14:12,000 --> 00:14:13,000 Woody Harrelson. 346 00:14:13,000 --> 00:14:16,920 Woody Harrelson says he he had a meme put out where he's talking about, hey, look, the 347 00:14:16,920 --> 00:14:23,280 only way you're going to be able to make change is that you have to stop using the people 348 00:14:23,280 --> 00:14:24,520 that you want to change. 349 00:14:24,520 --> 00:14:27,560 If there's someone out there that's doing something like Bud Light and you don't like 350 00:14:27,560 --> 00:14:31,480 their promotion, you know, like their style, don't buy their products, hit them where it 351 00:14:31,480 --> 00:14:32,480 hurts. 352 00:14:32,480 --> 00:14:33,480 The money is where it hurts. 353 00:14:33,480 --> 00:14:34,480 Correct. 354 00:14:34,480 --> 00:14:39,360 And I think you're I think if these these big time donors continue to withhold their 355 00:14:39,360 --> 00:14:42,520 money, their endowments is going to change in a hurry. 356 00:14:42,520 --> 00:14:43,520 You'll see some changes. 357 00:14:43,520 --> 00:14:45,200 It may take a little time. 358 00:14:45,200 --> 00:14:50,360 There needs to be a huge overload, a huge change on the whole dynamics of the college 359 00:14:50,360 --> 00:14:51,800 institutions period. 360 00:14:51,800 --> 00:14:54,920 I mean, just the money being spent in there. 361 00:14:54,920 --> 00:14:57,160 You know, football is fantastic. 362 00:14:57,160 --> 00:14:58,160 I get it. 363 00:14:58,160 --> 00:14:59,880 But you know what? 364 00:14:59,880 --> 00:15:03,760 Why do I need to drop an additional 15 to 20 thousand dollars for my kid to go to school 365 00:15:03,760 --> 00:15:05,560 there to support the football curriculum? 366 00:15:05,560 --> 00:15:11,840 You know, so they can they can build that 30 million dollar stadium, 100 million dollar 367 00:15:11,840 --> 00:15:12,840 stadium. 368 00:15:12,840 --> 00:15:13,840 I'm sorry. 369 00:15:13,840 --> 00:15:14,840 Keep going. 370 00:15:14,840 --> 00:15:15,840 Yeah. 371 00:15:15,840 --> 00:15:16,840 Well, I don't know. 372 00:15:16,840 --> 00:15:17,840 Prosper. 373 00:15:17,840 --> 00:15:18,840 I don't put in their budget a 95 million dollar stadium. 374 00:15:18,840 --> 00:15:19,840 Prosper. 375 00:15:19,840 --> 00:15:20,840 Correct. 376 00:15:20,840 --> 00:15:21,840 Prosper. 377 00:15:21,840 --> 00:15:24,840 You know, I just it's irresponsible to spend that money like that. 378 00:15:24,840 --> 00:15:31,400 It's just like it's there's a trend that they've got these the it's the trend of dropping 130 379 00:15:31,400 --> 00:15:35,760 billion dollars and sending it over to to Ukraine. 380 00:15:35,760 --> 00:15:39,440 You know, what's what's what's stupid, though, is the school districts. 381 00:15:39,440 --> 00:15:45,960 There's budgets and money that you you can assign like that. 382 00:15:45,960 --> 00:15:46,960 Ninety five million dollars. 383 00:15:46,960 --> 00:15:49,880 They can't spend that on teachers raises or anything. 384 00:15:49,880 --> 00:15:50,880 Right. 385 00:15:50,880 --> 00:15:52,240 It's earmarked for that. 386 00:15:52,240 --> 00:15:53,800 It can only be spent for that. 387 00:15:53,800 --> 00:15:56,240 Now, it's been voted on and everything. 388 00:15:56,240 --> 00:16:00,320 But it gets all up in arms anyway, because you're like, well, blah, blah, blah. 389 00:16:00,320 --> 00:16:01,320 We voted on it. 390 00:16:01,320 --> 00:16:03,200 This 95 million I can't use for teachers. 391 00:16:03,200 --> 00:16:04,720 I can't use for anything else. 392 00:16:04,720 --> 00:16:05,880 It's for that. 393 00:16:05,880 --> 00:16:07,560 By law, I have to use it for that. 394 00:16:07,560 --> 00:16:08,560 Right. 395 00:16:08,560 --> 00:16:09,560 So I can. 396 00:16:09,560 --> 00:16:10,560 I don't spend 95. 397 00:16:10,560 --> 00:16:11,560 It's an option. 398 00:16:11,560 --> 00:16:12,720 It's obnoxious. 399 00:16:12,720 --> 00:16:15,140 And I think that we need to kick him where it hurts. 400 00:16:15,140 --> 00:16:17,780 And I think that's one of the programs we need. 401 00:16:17,780 --> 00:16:20,480 If you want a football college, go to a football college. 402 00:16:20,480 --> 00:16:25,960 I think when you start coming up with some of these colleges that focus on what we need, 403 00:16:25,960 --> 00:16:30,120 I don't think we need all this other reason why they spend all that money on football. 404 00:16:30,120 --> 00:16:33,480 And sports in general, because that's what brings money into the school. 405 00:16:33,480 --> 00:16:34,480 Well, period. 406 00:16:34,480 --> 00:16:38,000 Education is the main reason for the schools. 407 00:16:38,000 --> 00:16:39,000 I get it. 408 00:16:39,000 --> 00:16:41,000 But they're going to cater to what brings in money. 409 00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:47,920 I don't know if tuition goes to fund the football team, because I watched the Johnny Manziel 410 00:16:47,920 --> 00:16:48,920 documentary. 411 00:16:48,920 --> 00:16:49,920 Yeah. 412 00:16:49,920 --> 00:16:56,120 And that year that he did good, they had donations of $700 million, which paid for that stadium. 413 00:16:56,120 --> 00:16:57,640 Yeah, no, no, no. 414 00:16:57,640 --> 00:16:58,640 That's on top of tuition. 415 00:16:58,640 --> 00:17:00,480 Yeah, tuition doesn't pay for the sports. 416 00:17:00,480 --> 00:17:03,360 Sports pays for sports, and sports pays for other things. 417 00:17:03,360 --> 00:17:04,360 Correct. 418 00:17:04,360 --> 00:17:05,560 But tuition doesn't pay for anything. 419 00:17:05,560 --> 00:17:11,720 Yeah, tuition pays for your new buildings, your teacher salaries in administration. 420 00:17:11,720 --> 00:17:12,720 It doesn't pay for sports. 421 00:17:12,720 --> 00:17:13,720 Right. 422 00:17:13,720 --> 00:17:17,360 No, I mean, like I said, they're not stupid. 423 00:17:17,360 --> 00:17:23,120 They know that if they attract, get a nice, fancy, shiny stadium, and they get a great 424 00:17:23,120 --> 00:17:28,520 coach who makes $5 million a year, and they can recruit and build up a football program. 425 00:17:28,520 --> 00:17:30,960 You've got these dumbass teachers. 426 00:17:30,960 --> 00:17:35,640 I'm sorry, in the schools that are pushing dumbass agendas. 427 00:17:35,640 --> 00:17:38,480 Oh, you're talking about like liberal and radical professors. 428 00:17:38,480 --> 00:17:39,480 Oh my God. 429 00:17:39,480 --> 00:17:40,760 I mean, like, yeah, they're a little too crazy. 430 00:17:40,760 --> 00:17:41,760 Right here in Allen. 431 00:17:41,760 --> 00:17:42,760 I can tell you right now it's not. 432 00:17:42,760 --> 00:17:43,760 She's an elementary school teacher here in Allen ISD, and I just want to try to bring 433 00:17:43,760 --> 00:17:44,760 more awareness for furries like myself. 434 00:17:44,760 --> 00:17:45,760 Now, I have the most students in my class that have actually transitioned from a human 435 00:17:45,760 --> 00:17:46,760 being to a human being. 436 00:17:46,760 --> 00:17:47,760 And I'm not going to say that I'm not going to say that I'm not going to say that I'm 437 00:17:47,760 --> 00:17:48,760 not going to say that I'm not going to say that I'm not going to say that I'm not going 438 00:17:48,760 --> 00:17:49,760 to say that I'm not going to say that I'm not going to say that I'm not going to say 439 00:17:49,760 --> 00:17:59,400 that I'm not going to think. 440 00:17:59,400 --> 00:18:02,840 Did I think he would hear you? 441 00:18:02,840 --> 00:18:03,840 household? 442 00:18:03,840 --> 00:18:10,480 Jesus also, At residents, I think he completely was making fun of everybody that is doing 443 00:18:10,480 --> 00:18:11,480 this kind of correct. 444 00:18:11,480 --> 00:18:14,960 I thank God because it was over the top. 445 00:18:14,960 --> 00:18:16,760 Why is he wasting our time? 446 00:18:16,760 --> 00:18:18,600 That's a better question. 447 00:18:18,600 --> 00:18:22,700 Well, he I think he's trying to make a statement for one thing that that that whole 448 00:18:24,040 --> 00:18:26,600 Gender thing is a stupid 449 00:18:27,120 --> 00:18:30,660 But that I have litter boxes in the class that for he so they could defecate 450 00:18:30,660 --> 00:18:33,040 No, but that furry that furry thing is for real 451 00:18:33,040 --> 00:18:38,880 Well, the furries are there are there are kids that are that are insisting on being treated like cats 452 00:18:39,760 --> 00:18:41,600 Yes, it's a real thing. Yes 453 00:18:41,600 --> 00:18:48,140 And so they are demanding that that a bowl of water be put on their desk so they can laugh out of it 454 00:18:48,140 --> 00:18:50,140 It's a real thing. Yeah 455 00:18:50,440 --> 00:18:52,400 And it's you know what it is 456 00:18:52,400 --> 00:19:01,320 It's this we live in this desperate generation of attention like attention to like a crazy unhealthy level, right? 457 00:19:01,560 --> 00:19:03,560 It's a fetish if you ask me it's 458 00:19:04,080 --> 00:19:06,080 It's mental illness 459 00:19:06,280 --> 00:19:12,840 You can call it that too. No, it's absolute mental illness and I'll tell you what Joe Rogan mentioned something on his podcast. He had a 460 00:19:12,840 --> 00:19:18,440 He had something going on with his daughter where she wanted to be one of these little furry things 461 00:19:19,560 --> 00:19:22,320 She wanted to identify as a wolf and he was like, alright 462 00:19:23,720 --> 00:19:28,360 Let's go camping. So he took her out. He says alright, you're gonna spend the night out here 463 00:19:29,240 --> 00:19:34,000 You're a wolf, right? Wolf. You're a wolf now go hunt for your food. He left her out there. I mean he's got what? 464 00:19:34,000 --> 00:19:41,800 A thousand acres. I mean whatever but he left her out there fucking six hours later. She calls him up. I'm done 465 00:19:42,920 --> 00:19:45,960 Please six hours. I would imagine whatever it's late 466 00:19:45,960 --> 00:19:52,280 whatever but she but but my point by bringing that up is that he put her in that scenario and she changes she went home and 467 00:19:52,640 --> 00:19:56,160 She got all her furry shit threw it out. I'm not a wolf anymore 468 00:19:58,160 --> 00:20:02,700 Well, you know what everybody needs a wake-up call if they have mental illness man, so I don't know 469 00:20:02,700 --> 00:20:07,900 Yeah, if you're a wolf live out here shit in the woods be in the woods and go catch your food and eat it raw 470 00:20:07,900 --> 00:20:13,900 Yeah, well if you if you do that, I think I'm part wolf. Yeah, I'll absolutely support somebody 471 00:20:13,900 --> 00:20:19,040 You want to live like that? You're not in the house anymore. Yeah, they're outside on chain. You don't have clothes. You're dude 472 00:20:20,540 --> 00:20:25,620 Now the podcast got me in let me kind of weird though. You're I don't know how old his daughter is but they kind of weird 473 00:20:25,620 --> 00:20:30,340 All right, well I'll tell you what I will share with you because I'm about to drink the whole god-blessed thing 474 00:20:30,340 --> 00:20:35,420 Jeff you were talking about your travels went to a work function and 475 00:20:36,420 --> 00:20:42,500 I hear your response about how drunk you got out there. You were did not I had some drinks 476 00:20:42,500 --> 00:20:49,100 I did not get drunk right so the tequila was outstanding. We there's a rooftop bar. That was very nice 477 00:20:49,100 --> 00:20:51,100 What was the weather like at the time? 478 00:20:51,100 --> 00:20:56,100 I got the ocean blowing in got this not on the shirt. It's not on the like through your hair 479 00:20:58,100 --> 00:21:02,700 Charlotteson he's not fabulous chest or Fabio Fabio his chest hair 480 00:21:02,700 --> 00:21:07,420 Yeah, cuz my hair is so the one that's on a horse with the long hair and he's like all yeah, I'm wonderful 481 00:21:07,420 --> 00:21:09,420 Look at me. I'll be a wife be it is Fabio 482 00:21:10,420 --> 00:21:14,460 He's just never wife beat her on doesn't a wife beat her on his hair was all hanging out. Oh 483 00:21:14,460 --> 00:21:20,300 Yes, no, so the trip was good. That's what the work trip was good and then two days later three days later 484 00:21:20,300 --> 00:21:26,380 I turn around and I fly out to Lake Tahoe region to visit my dad right then I was out there for a week 485 00:21:26,380 --> 00:21:29,220 Yeah, you're sending all these scenic. Oh look at the mountains in the background 486 00:21:30,220 --> 00:21:35,740 I'm in heaven right check out this bottle of Old Forester. Yes, and there's a secret 487 00:21:36,740 --> 00:21:40,940 And I drank one and I'm like, oh my god, I'm so drunk. I'm so drunk 488 00:21:40,940 --> 00:21:47,020 Yes, and there's a secret. Mm-hmm. I drank one and there is a little little town that he lives in there's a 489 00:21:47,660 --> 00:21:52,820 Liquor store slash wine store and I go and I went there last time. I didn't even know the place existed 490 00:21:52,820 --> 00:21:54,820 he's been there for 15 years and 491 00:21:54,980 --> 00:21:57,780 I went in there and I saw that 492 00:21:58,900 --> 00:22:00,260 and 493 00:22:00,260 --> 00:22:02,260 He only had one left 494 00:22:02,580 --> 00:22:05,780 And anyway, the bourbon is what is a shun? 495 00:22:05,780 --> 00:22:10,580 Old Forester single barrel barrel strength Nevada strong 496 00:22:12,580 --> 00:22:17,860 This is a 63 point nine zero proof, I'm sorry alcohol content 497 00:22:17,860 --> 00:22:19,860 127.8 proof 498 00:22:19,860 --> 00:22:23,580 This is a solid solid bourbon 499 00:22:23,580 --> 00:22:30,580 I'm enjoying the hell out of it. I was gonna slam it into another secret. No, that's you guys knowing but no you aren't 500 00:22:30,580 --> 00:22:32,980 What what? Geez, that's not allowed 501 00:22:32,980 --> 00:22:35,980 I 502 00:22:37,140 --> 00:22:39,140 Yeah 503 00:22:39,740 --> 00:22:45,980 You didn't like that answer but anyway I go in there and you know, he has he's it's not a it's not a big store 504 00:22:45,980 --> 00:22:50,700 It's like an old house that he's he's converted over to a little little shop and at the same much place 505 00:22:50,700 --> 00:22:53,180 we went to no, that was different that was a different place and 506 00:22:54,660 --> 00:22:56,660 They had that and he had some 507 00:22:57,580 --> 00:22:59,580 McKendree 10 years 508 00:22:59,580 --> 00:23:07,100 McKenna yeah McKenna 10 year. Yeah, he wanted 100 bucks for that. I was like, oh my god pass for McKenna 10 year 509 00:23:07,100 --> 00:23:09,100 Yeah, McKenna 10 year 510 00:23:09,820 --> 00:23:12,140 55 is what we pay for it. It's 40 bucks 511 00:23:13,780 --> 00:23:20,420 I turned around looked at him. He's like he just got a shrugged you do the bitch, please. Yeah, I kind of give that look and 512 00:23:20,420 --> 00:23:32,580 And this old Forrester was was the net was the look with your neck on side you know, that's why we don't do video ladies, right? 513 00:23:33,940 --> 00:23:36,460 So we had that he also had the Elijah Craig 18 514 00:23:37,820 --> 00:23:41,460 Was it Elijah Craig 18 or knob Creek? I bet that's oaky as hell 515 00:23:41,460 --> 00:23:46,700 Well, he even said cuz I asked when he wanted like 250 bucks or something like that for it. I was like he's like 516 00:23:46,700 --> 00:23:53,440 Yeah, he goes the 15 years much much better. So he even kind of so he's tasted it. Yeah, he said well 517 00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:55,620 That's a new bottle. He's had it before God 518 00:23:56,060 --> 00:24:00,420 Yeah, yeah 18 years at the along, you know, maybe we dudes like us need to open up a bourbon store 519 00:24:00,420 --> 00:24:05,100 Yeah, we could sell bourbon then when we get the the specialty purpose that come in we don't have to sell it 520 00:24:06,620 --> 00:24:10,540 Yeah, get on that Sean start our bourbon store 521 00:24:10,540 --> 00:24:14,180 Oh, we'll have a special little allocated area for our special stuff, right? 522 00:24:14,180 --> 00:24:18,020 So this bottle I think normally is around 80 to 90 bucks 523 00:24:18,980 --> 00:24:25,220 He wanted 100 bucks for it. So it wasn't marked up ridiculous. Hmm. I get it super solid 524 00:24:25,220 --> 00:24:28,900 I have a joint a lot of it if it's hard to find I get why they're overcharged for it 525 00:24:28,900 --> 00:24:31,540 I've never seen it. I've never seen it here locally 526 00:24:32,580 --> 00:24:35,700 Or anywhere, right? So we don't I mean it's so rare 527 00:24:35,700 --> 00:24:37,420 in fact that Mr. 528 00:24:37,420 --> 00:24:45,420 producer couldn't find it on the internet and couldn't we usually it usually has like a little thing about the nose and the finish and the 529 00:24:45,620 --> 00:24:52,140 End of this and the bad and it's ridiculous description of oh you feel butterscotch in the beginning and then you were all mint 530 00:24:53,980 --> 00:24:59,000 Toasted baklava, yeah, it's ridiculous all the in there like we taste none of that we take bourbon, right? 531 00:24:59,580 --> 00:25:01,620 No, but this is this is solid 532 00:25:01,620 --> 00:25:08,020 There is a little bit of alcohol at the front right you could feel a little twinge on the time little ethanol II and then 533 00:25:08,900 --> 00:25:12,980 Traditional bourbon flavors, I think right the Carmel's the butterscotch and stuff like that 534 00:25:14,980 --> 00:25:18,660 It's got a little sweetness to it too. I would highly recommend that I would give it a 535 00:25:19,220 --> 00:25:21,220 seven point eight I 536 00:25:21,220 --> 00:25:26,580 Think it's around the eight eight and a quarter. Maybe right around the Elijah Craig Barrel proofs. I think hmm 537 00:25:26,580 --> 00:25:29,540 It's very similar to those. What is the the pin? 538 00:25:29,540 --> 00:25:35,980 What is the the pin wheel pin hook pin hook? Yeah that pin hook it doesn't 539 00:25:36,460 --> 00:25:38,260 This is good 540 00:25:38,260 --> 00:25:40,260 It's not eight and a half like I gave pin hook 541 00:25:40,700 --> 00:25:46,940 It's definitely over seven. I would I thought this is solid eight. Yeah solid eight 542 00:25:47,180 --> 00:25:52,820 This is a fantastic bottle of bourbon is a huge school. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I was very excited when I saw that 543 00:25:52,820 --> 00:25:57,980 You never know when you because when we see these bottles we get excited you're kind of oh my god 544 00:25:57,980 --> 00:26:03,620 We found a unicorn and but then we don't have any idea what it tastes like until we get back, right? 545 00:26:03,620 --> 00:26:09,300 That's why I buy two have we ever had a unicorn where we're like, this is awful. Oh, yeah, you're Williamsburg 546 00:26:10,060 --> 00:26:12,860 No, no, no, we've had ones that we've the blood oath 547 00:26:12,860 --> 00:26:17,100 We had a blood oath that comes out once a year and it's semi hard to find 548 00:26:17,860 --> 00:26:22,820 And we were when we tasted it. We were about we were very meh on that, right? 549 00:26:22,860 --> 00:26:25,180 Yeah, it's rare that I mean when I say unicorn 550 00:26:25,180 --> 00:26:30,380 It's one that we know it's hard to find and then we were disappointed. I mean, but there are plenty of bourbons 551 00:26:30,380 --> 00:26:34,980 We just I would say they're every week and we go ahead and try it and it's not that great plantains 552 00:26:35,420 --> 00:26:41,700 Really? You know what? That is a difficult bourbon to get it's desirable. But in my opinion, it's a fantastic 553 00:26:41,700 --> 00:26:45,900 It's only any proof. It's 90. I believe yeah, it's a middle of the road 554 00:26:45,900 --> 00:26:50,460 It's a middle of the road bourbon if you ask me, but it's very very hard to find 555 00:26:50,460 --> 00:26:55,100 That's because it's been so hyped because John Wick drinks it and wick 556 00:26:55,100 --> 00:27:01,140 I want to say whole you know, they they collect the little figurines correct the little monopoly 557 00:27:01,140 --> 00:27:04,340 They do have higher proof versions of plans, which is even harder to find 558 00:27:04,340 --> 00:27:09,620 Oh, yeah, forget that single barrel single barrel blantons. Good luck. They got several different versions. Yeah 559 00:27:10,500 --> 00:27:13,660 so when you were out in the the 560 00:27:13,660 --> 00:27:19,380 God bless it. Where were you Utah? No Tahoe Tahoe. Oh, you were actually in Lake Tahoe 561 00:27:19,380 --> 00:27:23,340 We went we went over there. I wanted to get him over there. It had been since 562 00:27:24,340 --> 00:27:30,660 2016 that he's been over there. You jump in the the old lake. No, no, I did not a little bit pretty chilly 563 00:27:30,660 --> 00:27:36,140 You should have brought your your mask goggles goggles and dig up a sock at the bottom of a lake like you did 564 00:27:36,140 --> 00:27:39,660 I thought I thought it was a a cucumber fish 565 00:27:39,660 --> 00:27:44,420 It was low and I swam down there's I'm gonna get that I know it's like 10 feet down, but fucking I'm getting it 566 00:27:44,420 --> 00:27:47,620 I don't know what it is. I touched it and I was like, yeah, it's a sock 567 00:27:47,620 --> 00:27:49,620 Oh, dude, he brought it up and looked 568 00:27:50,220 --> 00:27:52,220 sock 569 00:27:52,220 --> 00:27:54,220 It was 570 00:27:54,220 --> 00:27:57,460 I'm seeing a trend because when you went out to your mystery island with your metal detector 571 00:27:57,460 --> 00:28:03,860 You're always looking for the for the for the unicorn under the ground or under the water, you know, I 572 00:28:04,500 --> 00:28:06,500 Yeah, I enjoy 573 00:28:06,500 --> 00:28:11,220 The hunt you said the guy that found this word about the big Roman sword 574 00:28:11,220 --> 00:28:15,500 It's all like it had like stuff all stuck to it. I want to find some hidden booty 575 00:28:15,500 --> 00:28:17,500 You know 576 00:28:17,500 --> 00:28:19,500 We did a sock 577 00:28:19,500 --> 00:28:24,100 Some guys sock. Yeah. Yeah, but it was like, you know, a very important person sock 578 00:28:24,100 --> 00:28:29,100 You know what it could have been could have been Abraham Lincoln crusted sock Abraham Lincoln 579 00:28:29,100 --> 00:28:31,100 They could have been down there for a hundred years. I 580 00:28:32,100 --> 00:28:34,100 Had a Walmart brand on there 581 00:28:34,100 --> 00:28:36,700 It had a Walmart brand on there 582 00:28:36,700 --> 00:28:40,700 It had a bunch of nasty stuff on there. Anyways, yeah, I'm glad you had a good time 583 00:28:40,700 --> 00:28:42,700 Yeah, but we did go I don't know if you remember the area 584 00:28:43,700 --> 00:28:45,700 We went to where they had the 585 00:28:46,700 --> 00:28:53,700 It was a flat hike and it was kind of over a swampy area bog type thing and then overlooked a river 586 00:28:53,700 --> 00:28:58,700 And then the salmon were still running. Hmm. So there's a type of salmon that runs 587 00:28:58,700 --> 00:29:03,900 I guess from Lake Tahoe up this river and they're all small and they're all jumping out 588 00:29:03,900 --> 00:29:07,100 No, they're all bring out your Billy club and smack them on them and jumping out of the water 589 00:29:07,100 --> 00:29:12,100 All these bears are all just jumping out of their mouths. There were a bunch of signs out that 590 00:29:12,700 --> 00:29:17,100 Be warned. This is bear. See absolutely. They stand there in the fish jump into her mouth 591 00:29:17,100 --> 00:29:19,900 They don't you have your anything. Do you have your bottle of spray bear spray? 592 00:29:19,900 --> 00:29:24,100 I turned around and asked my dad's like did you bring your bear spray? He's like no, I probably should have 593 00:29:24,100 --> 00:29:27,900 So we didn't see any so that was that was good. But the fish 594 00:29:29,100 --> 00:29:33,700 The fish are were already red and they were at the end of their life. So they were not very active 595 00:29:33,700 --> 00:29:38,700 They're in the water just kind of swimming waiting to die. They've already spawned laid their eggs and they're just pressing 596 00:29:39,300 --> 00:29:40,300 Yeah 597 00:29:40,300 --> 00:29:45,700 The purpose of their whole life is to swim upstream and to lay some eggs and then that's it 598 00:29:45,700 --> 00:29:49,500 Let us die and there's dead ones on the side. They weren't there's most of them were still alive 599 00:29:49,500 --> 00:29:54,700 But the older ones are tastier than the the younger ones after they turned red. I have no idea 600 00:29:54,700 --> 00:29:58,100 So here's the I don't think so. I'll give you some of the dynamic 601 00:29:58,100 --> 00:30:03,500 I'll give you some of my perspective based on my experience working in some of the seafood 602 00:30:04,100 --> 00:30:06,100 restaurants like there was a 603 00:30:06,700 --> 00:30:07,700 fuck 604 00:30:07,700 --> 00:30:09,700 two thousand nineteen ninety 605 00:30:09,700 --> 00:30:14,300 Nineteen ninety five ninety six seven somewhere in there. I worked at Humperdings in Los Calinas 606 00:30:14,300 --> 00:30:20,900 All right Humperdings was like the Guinness Book of World Records Thomas bar and it was a high-end seafood restaurant and 607 00:30:21,700 --> 00:30:26,900 the Dallas Cowboys used to venture there back in that time because they were they were winning a lot back then and 608 00:30:27,500 --> 00:30:31,500 They had a contract set up for this Alaskan salmon 609 00:30:32,100 --> 00:30:35,500 through a shipping company called Bruce Gore and 610 00:30:35,900 --> 00:30:41,300 Bruce Gore shipping company so he would send the Copper River salmon to our restaurant 611 00:30:41,300 --> 00:30:45,900 Huge Copper River salmon rich in color and one of the things I learned 612 00:30:45,900 --> 00:30:49,700 I don't know what the deal is. Maybe had too much coffee. I didn't do drugs back then 613 00:30:49,700 --> 00:30:52,500 So I was like, I don't know what the fuck about I retained this information about it 614 00:30:53,500 --> 00:31:00,100 So the most flavorful fish that you get when it's salmon is you got to catch them before the end of their trip 615 00:31:00,700 --> 00:31:03,700 Because the color is rich the Copper River salmon 616 00:31:03,700 --> 00:31:09,500 They they've eat they get full of all the food and then they they start the making of the salmon 617 00:31:09,500 --> 00:31:12,620 Food and then they they start the marathon boom right up the river 618 00:31:12,620 --> 00:31:16,700 so the further they get along the river the more nutrients they 619 00:31:17,500 --> 00:31:23,420 Yes, they lose so you want to eat them right at the beginning you want to crack them smack them and 620 00:31:23,940 --> 00:31:28,420 Pull them out. But if you wait towards the end, I think they lose some of that luster. Well, they do 621 00:31:29,180 --> 00:31:31,940 Because they don't eat there comes a point where they don't eat anymore 622 00:31:32,420 --> 00:31:37,940 They start consuming themselves and what's interesting and I just looked it's the coconut salmon and they're small 623 00:31:37,940 --> 00:31:42,260 They're probably a foot long. What's interesting and it not just happens to them, but they're 624 00:31:42,820 --> 00:31:44,900 the salmon have like beaks on them and 625 00:31:45,500 --> 00:31:49,220 They they start to curve if you ever noticed that Oh like an archituthis 626 00:31:49,220 --> 00:31:49,480 Yeah 627 00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:54,300 so the bottom one comes up and the and the and the beak of these salmon's curve as 628 00:31:54,620 --> 00:31:58,900 They see like here. There's a fresh one right there interesting and as they turn red 629 00:31:59,980 --> 00:32:02,660 They're like the bottom one gets really long. You see it right there 630 00:32:02,660 --> 00:32:07,820 That's so that's what it turns into I wouldn't eat that thing 631 00:32:07,820 --> 00:32:14,620 Yeah, I would so their whole face distorts a little Tabasco their body kind of distorts and turns red like that 632 00:32:14,620 --> 00:32:18,420 So racha so and when they turn like this or there that's near the end, huh? 633 00:32:19,460 --> 00:32:23,820 Interesting. Yeah, so the plural of salmon is salmon salmon's 634 00:32:24,460 --> 00:32:27,580 With an S or is it plural like deer deers the Sal mean? 635 00:32:27,580 --> 00:32:31,940 No, seriously, what is the front door? What is the plural? 636 00:32:31,940 --> 00:32:33,940 Salmon's 637 00:32:33,940 --> 00:32:35,940 No 638 00:32:35,940 --> 00:32:37,940 Fucking idiots 639 00:32:37,940 --> 00:32:39,940 Tell us sue. What is the plural of salmon? 640 00:32:40,940 --> 00:32:46,860 Do you know survey says I have no idea and seeing the picture of those red salmon. I never want to eat it again 641 00:32:47,860 --> 00:32:50,860 We don't eat the best salmon. Yes 642 00:32:50,860 --> 00:32:53,860 Plural of salmon let us hear it. Let's hear it 643 00:32:53,860 --> 00:33:00,100 Salmon is word hippo plural form of salmon is salmon. Yeah, correct 644 00:33:00,100 --> 00:33:03,660 Yeah, that's what I said. Yeah, do the sound bite 645 00:33:05,500 --> 00:33:09,260 Does it work salmon salmon salmon 646 00:33:09,260 --> 00:33:11,260 Salmon salmon 647 00:33:11,260 --> 00:33:17,820 I bugged my wife. I'll go to go to a restaurant. I was like, I'm gonna give me some salmons. Salmon. It's like it's that's salmon 648 00:33:17,820 --> 00:33:22,060 And I hate you, that's my life 649 00:33:22,060 --> 00:33:25,220 I think you there's a lot of people who miss mispronounced that 650 00:33:26,060 --> 00:33:28,060 Well, I'm glad you made it back safe 651 00:33:28,060 --> 00:33:34,180 I'm super happy you got to see your dad like most dudes like us out there. Our parents are getting older 652 00:33:34,180 --> 00:33:41,580 And you know, you never know when you're gonna see somebody again, right and we had a dear 653 00:33:41,580 --> 00:33:43,580 Dear friend that just passed away 654 00:33:43,580 --> 00:33:48,580 and it like yes day before yesterday 655 00:33:48,580 --> 00:33:50,580 It's crazy in our neighborhood 656 00:33:50,580 --> 00:33:56,580 It was Monday, right? Yes. So this this gentleman 657 00:33:56,580 --> 00:33:59,580 I'll say it fuck it Tom Hermes 658 00:33:59,580 --> 00:34:04,580 Tom Hermes just passed away and you know, he was he was big into the church 659 00:34:04,580 --> 00:34:09,580 Fantastic guy. He was a teacher. He was a great guy 660 00:34:09,580 --> 00:34:15,580 He was a teacher. He retired from being a teacher and he worked for the state of Kansas 661 00:34:15,580 --> 00:34:20,580 proofing websites for them for the state of Kansas kind of crazy gig 662 00:34:20,580 --> 00:34:24,580 So basically they would send him links. Hey, does everything work? Check it out. And that's what he did 663 00:34:24,580 --> 00:34:31,580 So he was he would dip another reason why I tell people out there don't fucking dip. Great. It's cancerous 664 00:34:31,580 --> 00:34:34,580 It's stupid. So he would dip and you know, he loved it 665 00:34:34,580 --> 00:34:39,580 It was this thing that he got cancer and it started off in his ear 666 00:34:39,580 --> 00:34:43,580 Well eight half his face away. No half. Ultimately, it did a big chunk of it 667 00:34:43,580 --> 00:34:50,580 Ultimately it did and you know and and look I I feel bad for 668 00:34:50,580 --> 00:34:54,580 Obviously his experience because it was it's got to suck 669 00:34:54,580 --> 00:34:59,580 You know getting cancer sucks period right? But you know, he got some chemo 670 00:34:59,580 --> 00:35:04,580 He got a bunch of it ripped out surgical surgery dropped a lot of money and 671 00:35:04,580 --> 00:35:08,580 You know what? What's your life? You want to you know, spare no expense 672 00:35:08,580 --> 00:35:13,580 I want to live it but he got mad because it fucking came back and he was like fuck it and he gave up 673 00:35:13,580 --> 00:35:18,580 Hmm, he gave up and that was that was four years ago five years ago 674 00:35:18,580 --> 00:35:23,580 He's been fighting it for that long. So yeah, and he literally and I and I tried I 675 00:35:23,580 --> 00:35:25,580 You know, he and I used to hang out a lot 676 00:35:25,580 --> 00:35:30,580 I mean all the time we would every day we'd go do something because I was a contractor at that time 677 00:35:30,580 --> 00:35:34,580 So I would pick him up and he'd go with me some of my jobs and he would work with me on it 678 00:35:34,580 --> 00:35:36,580 I'd pay him and 679 00:35:36,580 --> 00:35:42,580 So we hung out a lot and then when I started working for the company I currently work for that all stopped and 680 00:35:42,580 --> 00:35:48,580 I it's not like I didn't want to hang out with him. I just I had a real job and I couldn't circumstances 681 00:35:48,580 --> 00:35:51,580 So, you know, we kind of had that separation 682 00:35:51,580 --> 00:35:56,580 and you know dudes like us out there you got to you got to 683 00:35:56,580 --> 00:36:00,580 Take advantage of those friends out there and recognize them and talk with them 684 00:36:00,580 --> 00:36:07,580 And you know, he he ultimately ended up passing away of all things. He couldn't eat solid food 685 00:36:07,580 --> 00:36:09,580 and 686 00:36:09,580 --> 00:36:15,580 He tried eating from what I understood some potatoes or something like that and it didn't go out quite right 687 00:36:15,580 --> 00:36:17,580 It didn't go down quite 688 00:36:17,580 --> 00:36:23,580 Quite right with the fuck man and um, it's good. He ended up choking and he got 689 00:36:23,580 --> 00:36:30,580 Exfixiated and he's by himself, right? No, he had someone there. Oh, he had so he literally choked to death 690 00:36:30,580 --> 00:36:32,580 I believe so 691 00:36:32,580 --> 00:36:36,580 You know, I don't I'm not a hundred percent that that's the truth. I'm 99% 692 00:36:36,580 --> 00:36:39,580 That's the truth because someone told me that was there said that's what happened 693 00:36:39,580 --> 00:36:42,580 But I don't know if that's privileged information or not, but 694 00:36:42,580 --> 00:36:44,580 None of that happened 695 00:36:44,580 --> 00:36:48,580 It's really sad because it's it's another 696 00:36:48,580 --> 00:36:53,580 It's it's another game in life when you're dealing with insurances 697 00:36:53,580 --> 00:36:57,580 You know it crosses all both sides of the aisle 698 00:36:57,580 --> 00:37:00,580 You know when you have to lean on your insurance to take care of stuff 699 00:37:00,580 --> 00:37:02,580 It's all about money. If you want to live you got to pay 700 00:37:02,580 --> 00:37:05,580 Well, yeah, that's it. That's the bottom line 701 00:37:05,580 --> 00:37:08,580 You want you want to get that you need this fixed 702 00:37:08,580 --> 00:37:11,580 You got to pay you just got to pay if you don't have money fuck it 703 00:37:11,580 --> 00:37:15,580 Get the back of the line, you know, there are I think I think they're you know 704 00:37:15,580 --> 00:37:21,580 I don't know if it's a benefit, but what is a benefit but I look at the military folks, right? 705 00:37:21,580 --> 00:37:23,580 Like your dad Sean 706 00:37:23,580 --> 00:37:30,580 My wife's dad go to the vet and it's quote unquote free health care, right? 707 00:37:30,580 --> 00:37:34,580 And the VA at the VA right now you're dealing with the VA right? 708 00:37:34,580 --> 00:37:36,580 You have to deal with their timeline and their schedules 709 00:37:36,580 --> 00:37:41,580 It's not the bullshit you have to go through but top quality, but right if you need surgery you get surgery 710 00:37:41,580 --> 00:37:44,580 Yeah, and it's not gonna cost you anything 711 00:37:44,580 --> 00:37:49,580 Like for instance, my brother-in-law who's retired Colonel from the Air Force. He just 712 00:37:49,580 --> 00:37:52,580 Yesterday morning head is hip replaced 713 00:37:52,580 --> 00:37:54,580 and 714 00:37:54,580 --> 00:38:00,580 I guess the vet free whole nine yards, you know, yeah, but 715 00:38:00,580 --> 00:38:03,580 He paid for that with the vet free 716 00:38:03,580 --> 00:38:09,580 but he paid for that with his life in the military, right you know what and I 717 00:38:09,580 --> 00:38:15,580 I totally agree with that as a matter of fact, I would I wish I'm thankful is free for all vets 718 00:38:15,580 --> 00:38:20,580 I wish you a better better better quality, right? Correct. It's just a look. I gotta disagree with that 719 00:38:20,580 --> 00:38:28,580 I think that you're mislabeling the VA clinic cuz my dad he's already oh meaning it's better quality than I'm 720 00:38:28,580 --> 00:38:33,580 Yeah, okay. Yeah, because my dad yeah, there are some areas of concern 721 00:38:33,580 --> 00:38:39,580 Sure, you know looking at the big picture. There are areas concern, but I think the I 722 00:38:39,580 --> 00:38:45,580 Think most of it my dad has not complained cuz he will complain right when he's got an ailment 723 00:38:45,580 --> 00:38:51,580 He goes and gets it fixed. Yeah, sure, you know in in he's on top of shit. He's he's 724 00:38:51,580 --> 00:38:56,580 I've never heard him complain about the the quality of the doctors there because he calls him out 725 00:38:56,580 --> 00:39:03,580 I mean, I guess if you're passive the only thing I've heard is the bureaucracy on the red tape and I have no experience 726 00:39:03,580 --> 00:39:11,580 I've just seen the news stories, right? So, you know someone's you know, the VA bureaucracy and the red tape of someone having to get 727 00:39:11,580 --> 00:39:13,580 To see a doctor to get the medication 728 00:39:14,580 --> 00:39:19,580 Whatever the nine yards right fighting some illness and it took eight months to see him right and maybe there's better VA's than others 729 00:39:19,580 --> 00:39:22,580 I think that's true. Right. That's true, too 730 00:39:22,580 --> 00:39:27,580 I I don't know I based on what my dad said in his experience because that was a very specific question 731 00:39:27,580 --> 00:39:31,580 I asked him about the VA and his experience with it. He is he hasn't had a real big problem 732 00:39:31,580 --> 00:39:35,220 You know, he thinks that they're idiots sometimes right? 733 00:39:35,580 --> 00:39:39,980 And they'll know cuz they you know, you go to a general practitioner and you got it like all right 734 00:39:39,980 --> 00:39:43,060 Let's size up. What's going on. Let's put you in the right direction and boom sends you off 735 00:39:44,460 --> 00:39:46,460 Some of those guys are stupid and 736 00:39:46,860 --> 00:39:48,860 Based on what my dad said, you know 737 00:39:48,860 --> 00:39:52,460 It's like why you said to me here and it's like I don't know and everyone's looking at each other like they're 738 00:39:52,460 --> 00:39:53,860 freaking idiots 739 00:39:53,860 --> 00:39:56,380 Yeah, they're some of that's going on 740 00:39:56,380 --> 00:40:02,120 But as far as like the the quality when you actually go in there for a procedure they got top-notch doctors that are doing their shit 741 00:40:02,120 --> 00:40:07,020 That's good. They've earned it. Yeah, they definitely have it. It's the like Jeff said it's the red tape 742 00:40:07,020 --> 00:40:10,340 it's the the I don't know if it's the bureaucracy of 743 00:40:11,340 --> 00:40:16,100 Getting a procedure done and the authority extended to getting the procedure done 744 00:40:16,100 --> 00:40:22,780 I think it's anything that is run by the government is poorly run. Correct. I mean, that's the way I 745 00:40:23,140 --> 00:40:27,260 Have to say I agree with that totally. Yeah. No, I mean seriously 746 00:40:27,260 --> 00:40:32,820 I mean any problem they try to solve they they go about it in a very inefficient bloated 747 00:40:33,780 --> 00:40:34,980 You know 748 00:40:34,980 --> 00:40:37,980 In an ineffective way. Hey, what let's do a hard 749 00:40:38,660 --> 00:40:45,020 Quick hard 90 here. We've got we've got some guests here that are we got in and sue and 750 00:40:45,020 --> 00:40:50,860 They're just there's the sitting in yeah, they're observing they're observing and no longer. They're going to be active 751 00:40:51,380 --> 00:40:53,620 interested in starting something new and 752 00:40:54,060 --> 00:40:59,440 I'm gonna put you on the spot for a second to see if you can't just walk us through your business plan of 753 00:41:00,420 --> 00:41:03,060 What the podcast is gonna be about ish 754 00:41:04,340 --> 00:41:06,340 Great, thanks, Anne 755 00:41:06,740 --> 00:41:12,440 Well, you know, just yourself before Sue starts because I you need to start getting used to talking. I mean now is the time 756 00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:14,440 You 757 00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:19,840 Yeah, if you guys gonna start a podcast you've got to be assertive, yeah, I'm Anne 758 00:41:22,080 --> 00:41:24,080 I'm a Sagittarius 759 00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:33,080 But our topic is so vastly different in your actually vastly different but it's a great noble cause 760 00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:36,160 Yeah, that's kind of the spirit of what I want you to talk about 761 00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:41,380 So Sue and I met through grief. We've both lost a child both in college 762 00:41:41,380 --> 00:41:46,740 both due to tragic unforeseen circumstances and 763 00:41:47,660 --> 00:41:53,220 Our experience through that has bonded us as lifeline lifetime 764 00:41:54,460 --> 00:41:56,460 companions great 765 00:41:56,820 --> 00:42:03,140 Our experience is the first year lots of support lots of understanding lots of lift love and 766 00:42:03,620 --> 00:42:05,620 Just complete support 767 00:42:05,700 --> 00:42:07,020 second year 768 00:42:07,020 --> 00:42:10,260 They are still there third year. They start to wane off 769 00:42:10,260 --> 00:42:14,460 fourth and on you're supposed to be healed here supposed to be on your feet 770 00:42:14,460 --> 00:42:17,180 You're supposed to rebound to what you once were 771 00:42:18,060 --> 00:42:20,060 They want the old you back. There is 772 00:42:20,620 --> 00:42:22,620 limited support and understanding 773 00:42:23,420 --> 00:42:30,740 Almost everyone family especially family especially they're just there completely and I get it from their perspective 774 00:42:30,740 --> 00:42:33,900 And the fact that they want us the way we were right, right 775 00:42:34,700 --> 00:42:38,740 Well, I also think that people think you go through the stages of grief 776 00:42:38,740 --> 00:42:45,340 And we should be through those stages. They don't understand that grief is actually a journey a lifetime journey and 777 00:42:46,020 --> 00:42:49,780 It doesn't go away Carly's my daughter was 778 00:42:50,300 --> 00:42:56,020 Killed four years ago, and it doesn't get better. I'm I'm not 779 00:42:56,340 --> 00:42:58,540 Over it. I'm not going to be over it 780 00:42:58,540 --> 00:43:03,180 And I think one of the issues that and I talk about all the time is there's so much support 781 00:43:03,540 --> 00:43:07,180 For people in the first couple years of grief, but then there's nothing 782 00:43:07,180 --> 00:43:12,300 And I think society or people think we should be over it and we're not and there's a big gap 783 00:43:12,300 --> 00:43:18,660 There's a missing market for people in our situation that we still are on this journey, but there's no 784 00:43:19,380 --> 00:43:23,940 No support out there. Yeah, so you feel left behind correct. Everybody else has moved on 785 00:43:24,260 --> 00:43:26,660 They want things to be normal again, right? 786 00:43:26,660 --> 00:43:31,380 It'd be much easier for them if things were back to the way they were sure it'd be much easier for us 787 00:43:31,380 --> 00:43:33,980 You don't expect an amputee that has no 788 00:43:33,980 --> 00:43:37,780 Artificial limb to be able to use both hands if they've lost a hand right 789 00:43:37,780 --> 00:43:44,020 But they expect us to still be able to pick up go on and be once we would what we once were sure 790 00:43:44,020 --> 00:43:48,580 So is this an effort to create sort of a podcast of? 791 00:43:49,100 --> 00:43:52,620 Group therapy so to speak to talk about your experiences 792 00:43:52,620 --> 00:43:56,460 I think it's twofold actually because I think one society in general 793 00:43:56,460 --> 00:44:01,540 Could learn a lot from our podcast and learn about grief that it doesn't end in no way 794 00:44:01,540 --> 00:44:05,340 five grief steps and it does it is a journey it does go on and 795 00:44:05,860 --> 00:44:09,360 This is how we feel in our grief, but I also think it's for 796 00:44:09,900 --> 00:44:16,820 Moms who are in year five year six year seven and there is no support and and what am I feeling is that normal? 797 00:44:16,820 --> 00:44:20,820 Do other parents feel that way and talk about those kind of issues that that? 798 00:44:21,220 --> 00:44:23,220 Okay, I'm not alone out there in my thoughts 799 00:44:23,220 --> 00:44:27,120 There are other people out there that feel the same way. I do and you're not like 800 00:44:27,120 --> 00:44:31,100 You don't have to have this feeling like you're taking too long to heal or 801 00:44:31,680 --> 00:44:35,480 Everybody's expecting you to be over this by now. What's wrong with me? Why am I not over this? 802 00:44:35,480 --> 00:44:39,720 Right, you know in that and that's that's normal to not be over that correct 803 00:44:39,720 --> 00:44:43,120 You want to get that message out that you know what it's okay 804 00:44:43,120 --> 00:44:49,520 It takes as long as it takes exactly and that you guys are you know, you might be voices of support exactly 805 00:44:49,520 --> 00:44:52,280 That's what we're hoping that it's also for the family 806 00:44:52,280 --> 00:44:58,600 It's for the extended family the extended friendships. It's for all of them to listen and go and oh 807 00:44:58,600 --> 00:45:01,720 So it's not just my daughter my sister 808 00:45:02,240 --> 00:45:08,200 My niece who is not over this it's this is normal. This is what's going on 809 00:45:08,200 --> 00:45:14,280 It's very easy to be able to judge someone unless you've walked in their shoes sure and we all do it 810 00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:18,280 Don't misunderstand. I was that pious person that thought this will never happen to me 811 00:45:18,280 --> 00:45:24,120 This is not me. This is not my situation and why aren't they over said thing? 812 00:45:24,120 --> 00:45:30,040 Why are they dwelling? Where are they where they're at? Sure. I think it's one of those you don't know 813 00:45:30,040 --> 00:45:33,320 You've experienced it. Unfortunately, so now you know and you want to 814 00:45:33,880 --> 00:45:38,280 Help those who were in your shoes. You're like, that's not me. That's never gonna happen 815 00:45:38,280 --> 00:45:42,960 So you want them to understand as well? Correct. Exactly the relatability, right? 816 00:45:43,960 --> 00:45:45,040 Yeah, it's great 817 00:45:45,040 --> 00:45:50,760 I mean and that's not I mean you guys are courageous because that's not easy to talk about right? 818 00:45:50,760 --> 00:45:54,960 No, but it's so needed. It's so needed and that's what is what drives you 819 00:45:54,960 --> 00:45:58,600 That's that's exactly why we're moving forward with this because it's a 820 00:45:59,280 --> 00:46:05,040 Market that is not out there right now and it needs to be out there. Sure. Sure. Now how I mean 821 00:46:05,040 --> 00:46:10,560 I there's got to be some support organizations that you do know of that you could pitch 822 00:46:10,560 --> 00:46:14,560 Pitch to with with a podcast or or how is it too loosely? 823 00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:17,000 Not a lot of organizations out there. What do you think? 824 00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:19,560 I think there are a ton of organizations out there 825 00:46:19,560 --> 00:46:24,800 But again, it's for the first two to three years and there's nothing beyond that. There's nothing 826 00:46:25,280 --> 00:46:28,840 People just tend to think you should be moved on or over it or 827 00:46:29,360 --> 00:46:33,000 So there is if there isn't anything past the first couple years 828 00:46:33,520 --> 00:46:36,920 Gotcha. So and unfortunately the organizations that we've been working with 829 00:46:36,920 --> 00:46:40,880 It's all about the tragedy of how your child's died 830 00:46:41,400 --> 00:46:45,760 And so you go to these support groups and it's oh, thank god. That's not me 831 00:46:45,760 --> 00:46:51,040 Well, at least that wasn't my circumstance at least this at least that and it's it's 832 00:46:51,640 --> 00:46:55,880 Their way of coping what they're going through which I fully understand, but it's also 833 00:46:57,080 --> 00:47:02,280 It's a comparative competitive thing rather than just understanding which is just whole 834 00:47:02,280 --> 00:47:07,440 Well, so it's not guided necessarily by a therapist or by somebody that's guiding you through it 835 00:47:07,440 --> 00:47:10,440 And I agree with you, but I think the real issue is that 836 00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:16,120 Grief beyond the second year is different and it looks different 837 00:47:16,120 --> 00:47:19,600 It smells different tastes different and there's nothing out there for those people 838 00:47:20,080 --> 00:47:25,560 So yeah, right. We're trying to use a podcast to fill that gap for those 839 00:47:26,080 --> 00:47:28,400 Parents that are in the same situation 840 00:47:28,400 --> 00:47:36,080 Cast to fill that gap for those parents that are in year three four or five six ongoing care, correct 841 00:47:36,080 --> 00:47:40,160 I think it's like the pulse is very noble. That's a great idea 842 00:47:40,880 --> 00:47:46,320 Because you know, I'm kind of like where you were it's like I haven't experienced that I never thought about that before 843 00:47:46,320 --> 00:47:51,880 You know, what's it like five years after you know, you got it. You got it empty is a void 844 00:47:51,880 --> 00:47:58,920 Right holidays come by you're going you got you got Christmas stockings. You're pulling out of the attic and you're you're putting them on the 845 00:47:59,480 --> 00:48:03,960 The mantle and the reminders never go away. Yeah, still can't do it 846 00:48:03,960 --> 00:48:07,320 No still have never put up a Christmas stocking. It's it's tough 847 00:48:07,320 --> 00:48:10,440 I mean, I I couldn't fathom losing one of my kids 848 00:48:10,440 --> 00:48:16,840 I couldn't fathom and that's why we're unrelatable and I get it. I'm not faulting anybody that we're unrelatable 849 00:48:16,840 --> 00:48:20,440 But that's also why people don't want to talk about it. Listen to it hear about it 850 00:48:20,440 --> 00:48:26,280 Because it's like that's too painful. It's too real. They also don't I'm just projecting here 851 00:48:26,280 --> 00:48:31,480 They probably also don't know how to solve it right? So they but there's actually no solve right? 852 00:48:31,480 --> 00:48:35,400 But but nothing frustrates humans more than having a problem that they can't solve 853 00:48:35,400 --> 00:48:41,080 Agreed and so they feel like probably as a support team. They want to help you solve it, correct? 854 00:48:41,080 --> 00:48:46,280 And it's not solvable. It is right and so they get frustrated. I mean, I'm just no 855 00:48:46,280 --> 00:48:52,680 You probably have run into I mean I would imagine it's different flavors of how different people support and how you know 856 00:48:52,680 --> 00:48:55,720 How they handle it and stuff like that, but I would imagine some people like okay 857 00:48:55,720 --> 00:48:59,800 I can't I can't do any more than I've done to try to solve this problem 858 00:48:59,800 --> 00:49:04,280 So I don't I'm just gonna withdraw right? I think that's huge ball 859 00:49:04,280 --> 00:49:09,960 Yes, I think a lot of people feel that way and what people don't understand is just just be with us where we're at 860 00:49:09,960 --> 00:49:14,200 I mean every day is different for us. There are days that I'm fine. I laugh. I'm happy 861 00:49:14,200 --> 00:49:19,000 I'm having a great day and there are days that something happens and I'm bawling my eyes out in my room. So 862 00:49:19,720 --> 00:49:25,640 Every day is different and meet us where we're at during in that day or during that time. So 863 00:49:25,640 --> 00:49:30,840 Right. Is this a meanwhile? Everybody else's lives go on correct? Yes, and that's hard to watch too 864 00:49:30,840 --> 00:49:35,640 Yeah, and you're stuck you're spinning because we're stuck. Yep. Okay, so is there 865 00:49:36,680 --> 00:49:38,680 So I've got two questions 866 00:49:38,680 --> 00:49:44,520 First of all, does it affect your relationship with your your spouse? A hundred percent for me. Yes 867 00:49:45,320 --> 00:49:50,760 We've grown closer we it was fight-or-flight mode and so we fought together 868 00:49:50,760 --> 00:49:57,320 We've we've grown as close as we possibly could we survived the worst of hell and we made it through the other side 869 00:49:57,800 --> 00:50:00,840 But that is a conscious decision and it's a fight. It's 870 00:50:03,480 --> 00:50:05,960 My brother my husband lost two of his brothers 871 00:50:05,960 --> 00:50:08,760 both at the age both in their teens and 872 00:50:09,000 --> 00:50:13,480 The one piece of advice that his father gave us was never blame each other never blame 873 00:50:14,040 --> 00:50:16,040 and it's very easy to look at 874 00:50:16,840 --> 00:50:21,480 Myself and blame myself like well, why didn't I do this? Why did I allow him to go to that university? 875 00:50:21,480 --> 00:50:24,280 He had choices, you know, surely if he would have gone to 876 00:50:25,000 --> 00:50:28,840 A different university which he had scholarships to he wouldn't this would not have happened 877 00:50:28,840 --> 00:50:33,880 Yep, if you were closer second guess everything correct and it's it's the way it's a coping 878 00:50:33,880 --> 00:50:37,080 It's a processing of the grief and the death and things like that 879 00:50:38,200 --> 00:50:41,800 so for us, we're fortunate, but it is a 880 00:50:42,440 --> 00:50:44,440 It's a very very 881 00:50:44,760 --> 00:50:49,880 Tough thing. Yeah, because everybody deals with grief differently, correct, right and men in general 882 00:50:49,880 --> 00:50:52,920 I mean, I'm not I mean man in general we we we just stuff it down 883 00:50:53,400 --> 00:50:54,840 We'll try to lock it away 884 00:50:54,840 --> 00:50:55,320 Yeah 885 00:50:55,320 --> 00:51:00,120 We lock it away pretend like it doesn't exist and move on and that probably doesn't women and men are different the way 886 00:51:00,120 --> 00:51:06,200 Believe it or not. I mean we we are different the way we think and guys are able to do things 887 00:51:06,440 --> 00:51:13,880 Yeah, we handle things differently one of the grief processes that we went through was my therapist had said he needs to tell his story 888 00:51:14,680 --> 00:51:19,400 Three times to three different parties to three different family members three different people that are entrusted 889 00:51:20,440 --> 00:51:21,640 and it was 890 00:51:21,640 --> 00:51:26,120 Extremely eye-opening to hear his story sure how it impacted him 891 00:51:26,120 --> 00:51:30,680 No, just the days the events the whatever. Oh, I see because 892 00:51:31,240 --> 00:51:34,840 I was the one on the phone with the er doctor. I was the one 893 00:51:35,240 --> 00:51:39,240 You know, he's getting me he's booking the flight and all of a sudden they're like no, you don't get it 894 00:51:39,240 --> 00:51:41,240 You both need to be here now 895 00:51:41,880 --> 00:51:44,440 And i'm like otherwise you'll feel like you're shouldering all of it 896 00:51:44,440 --> 00:51:48,920 Well, no, I would I thought he was gonna wake up from the coma. I thought that there was no chance 897 00:51:48,920 --> 00:51:53,400 I didn't realize because they cannot proclaim someone brain dead for 72 hours 898 00:51:53,400 --> 00:51:56,920 Oh, I see. I thought okay. He's super smart. He's gonna lose supreme brain cells 899 00:51:56,920 --> 00:51:59,800 He's gonna get reamed out by me when he wakes up don't misunderstand 900 00:52:00,520 --> 00:52:04,600 But all is gonna be well because that has been our life. All has always been well, right? 901 00:52:05,320 --> 00:52:11,320 So it's the denial it's and so to hear his perspective that first the phone call the middle of the morning five in the morning 902 00:52:11,640 --> 00:52:14,840 He thought it was about my mom because my mom had been ill and he's like wait 903 00:52:14,840 --> 00:52:19,400 It's our son and then just the processing of all of the things that he went through 904 00:52:19,400 --> 00:52:25,240 Vastly different than my experience same room same child same everything 905 00:52:26,280 --> 00:52:29,480 Different perspectives sure they wanted him to sign the death certificate 906 00:52:29,480 --> 00:52:34,120 He was physically incapable and collapsed and couldn't get off the hospital floor in the hallway 907 00:52:34,440 --> 00:52:38,920 And they're like, I'm sorry. It's been hours. Do you mind signing it? I'm like give me the damn thing here 908 00:52:39,240 --> 00:52:41,240 Just let us you know 909 00:52:41,240 --> 00:52:45,720 So different experiences same child, but that was his way of 910 00:52:45,720 --> 00:52:51,560 Different experiences same child, but that was his way and it forced him to 911 00:52:52,760 --> 00:52:59,160 Address his feelings because he had to share what he felt. Yeah versus stuff stuff stuff. Yeah, man. I don't do that very well 912 00:52:59,720 --> 00:53:01,720 Right. That is absolutely 913 00:53:02,440 --> 00:53:04,440 stunning 914 00:53:04,920 --> 00:53:09,320 It's yeah, it's yeah, we we could not relate no way 915 00:53:09,320 --> 00:53:17,480 And we don't want you to right but nor can we be fixed because there's not a fix the biggest thing is and it's a very 916 00:53:17,640 --> 00:53:21,560 graphic picture that's so wonderful is you can go to the poo and 917 00:53:22,200 --> 00:53:26,040 Piglet one or whatever they're sitting in the puddle and they're like, how you know, are you feeling blue? 918 00:53:26,120 --> 00:53:29,480 How can I help you or whatever and it's like just sit with me, right? 919 00:53:29,960 --> 00:53:36,040 I won't always be in this big deep ditch. I can't I can't live in a ditch because it's there's no food. There's no water 920 00:53:36,040 --> 00:53:38,200 There's no sunlight. Sure be with me 921 00:53:38,200 --> 00:53:41,880 I will crawl out of it never gonna be the same person right? 922 00:53:42,200 --> 00:53:46,040 But be with me and understand where I'm at because I don't understand where I'm at 923 00:53:46,040 --> 00:53:48,440 Yeah, and you talk about all over the place 924 00:53:48,440 --> 00:53:52,680 I could be happy in one minute in the very next minute yelling and it could be for nothing 925 00:53:53,720 --> 00:53:59,000 Sure, it depends on the stage of grief and where you're at how many days how many months how many years? 926 00:53:59,000 --> 00:54:02,040 Is your are your parents still alive? My father is 927 00:54:02,520 --> 00:54:06,120 Your mother passed away. She passed six months and two days after my son 928 00:54:06,120 --> 00:54:14,120 So do you have the the same are the when you what i'm trying to draw that is that the loss of your mother versus the loss of your son? 929 00:54:14,120 --> 00:54:18,200 They're different completely you are supposed to outlive your parents, right? 930 00:54:18,200 --> 00:54:25,160 Yep, that was an expected passing if you will it's not unknown not unexpected not out of order 931 00:54:25,800 --> 00:54:31,640 Right still painful. Um, yeah, but still but my mom got married. My mom had children 932 00:54:31,640 --> 00:54:34,680 My mom had a career. My mom had a house my son 933 00:54:34,680 --> 00:54:41,240 Rick died as a junior in college at the height of his life. He's still formulating. So you're the 934 00:54:41,880 --> 00:54:44,360 To move the the podcast and start 935 00:54:45,160 --> 00:54:47,160 labeling this 936 00:54:47,160 --> 00:54:50,760 You are you guys going to talk about your experiences? Are you going to have? 937 00:54:51,400 --> 00:54:55,640 Your guests that have similar experiences a way for them to to vent 938 00:54:56,280 --> 00:55:01,480 And and share absolutely so the community so that people can say. All right. Well, this is this is the reality 939 00:55:01,480 --> 00:55:07,560 This is everybody's reality normalizing it. Yes. Yeah, not being afraid to talk about the things that 940 00:55:08,920 --> 00:55:10,920 It could be anything from intimacy 941 00:55:10,920 --> 00:55:15,320 I mean, I truly remember the first time trying to be intimate with my husband going okay. My son's dead 942 00:55:15,320 --> 00:55:18,920 He's all knowing he's in heaven. He sees all uh-uh. We're not doing that 943 00:55:20,440 --> 00:55:25,720 That's a female you say that is a female's perspective, right? So i'm banging my grandparents are watching 944 00:55:26,040 --> 00:55:30,200 Yeah, that's no welcome to my thoughts. We have welcome to my thought we have several hundred 945 00:55:30,200 --> 00:55:36,040 A hundred hundreds of they're just staring at you paul. They're all they're all around the cards. They've got scorecards 946 00:55:36,040 --> 00:55:39,960 They're like he's doing everything. No, no, he's doing it all wrong. They're like 947 00:55:42,360 --> 00:55:46,680 Doing it wrong poor. Shelly. What's she doing? Paul? Get your ass a little higher, please 948 00:55:47,880 --> 00:55:52,440 A little higher. These are the bizarre things that you that's the wrong hole. Come on 949 00:55:52,440 --> 00:55:56,920 Oh, come on wow this podcast 950 00:55:57,960 --> 00:56:02,200 Thank you. We have a red card. I'll red card myself on that one. Yes. Yes 951 00:56:03,000 --> 00:56:05,880 All right. Well, you know, uh, okay, what was your second question? 952 00:56:06,680 --> 00:56:10,200 There's nothing off limits. I'd rather talk about it all and have it know so uh, 953 00:56:10,920 --> 00:56:14,760 The what was the first question? It was how did it affect my our relationship with our spouse? 954 00:56:14,760 --> 00:56:22,120 The the second one was was the comparison. So it was uh, did it affect your relationship and uh, 955 00:56:22,520 --> 00:56:29,080 And then the second one was the comparison the variance between losing a loved one like a parent versus a child and yes 956 00:56:29,480 --> 00:56:35,000 You've nailed it. You basically said, you know, you you gave birth to that thing. It's right. You know, it's what could have been 957 00:56:35,080 --> 00:56:38,440 Well, right exactly and i'm on a daily basis 958 00:56:38,440 --> 00:56:44,600 I tell my daughter how sorry I am that she only made it for 19 years that she has missed so many experiences out of life 959 00:56:44,680 --> 00:56:49,640 And that's a whole nother part of grief is feeling bad that she didn't get to live longer 960 00:56:49,800 --> 00:56:52,360 She didn't get to get married. She didn't get to have children of her own 961 00:56:52,680 --> 00:56:57,320 Yeah, and that's a whole nother sec a part of grief that it needs to be talked about as well 962 00:56:57,480 --> 00:56:59,480 So sure the what could have been 963 00:56:59,720 --> 00:57:01,720 As it comes there comes a point where? 964 00:57:02,600 --> 00:57:04,600 You got to start 965 00:57:05,700 --> 00:57:07,800 Retraining your brain 966 00:57:07,800 --> 00:57:08,840 to 967 00:57:08,840 --> 00:57:13,080 To work through this stuff. Absolutely. So i'm assuming you're gonna have 968 00:57:13,720 --> 00:57:17,400 The those training exercises. I don't even know how the hell you would do that 969 00:57:18,280 --> 00:57:22,520 Well, there's such a don't think about it. Don't think about it. Don't think about it. How crazy is that? 970 00:57:22,600 --> 00:57:26,860 And look i'm gonna i'm gonna go off on a different my wife has agoraphobia 971 00:57:28,040 --> 00:57:31,560 Don't think about it. Don't think about it. That's the kind of stuff i'm kind of correlating to 972 00:57:32,120 --> 00:57:34,200 I try to get her to not think about things 973 00:57:35,400 --> 00:57:37,080 That is crazy 974 00:57:37,080 --> 00:57:42,920 No, and I couldn't imagine telling you guys not to think about that because I kind of even thinking about losing my son 975 00:57:43,000 --> 00:57:45,000 Over there, I would fucking go ape shit 976 00:57:45,800 --> 00:57:47,800 I just again 977 00:57:48,360 --> 00:57:50,180 You can't you 978 00:57:50,180 --> 00:57:56,120 Unrelatable it. Yeah, you you my daughter is on my mind every day all day and she's not on the earth 979 00:57:56,200 --> 00:57:58,200 But I think about her all the time 980 00:57:58,600 --> 00:58:02,280 So instead of not thinking about it you think of what you are grateful that you did have 981 00:58:02,600 --> 00:58:06,120 I had 20 years with him. I had the experience I had that's 982 00:58:06,120 --> 00:58:10,680 I and if I i've told sue this many times if I had his life in a nutshell 983 00:58:11,080 --> 00:58:16,200 It's a flippin fabulous life. He traveled most the world. He was happy 984 00:58:16,440 --> 00:58:20,440 He he went out on the high he never knew the pain that we're inflicted upon 985 00:58:20,680 --> 00:58:24,200 Not that he did that to us, but that we're going through because of their death 986 00:58:25,240 --> 00:58:26,200 um 987 00:58:26,200 --> 00:58:28,200 He he had an incredible life 988 00:58:28,680 --> 00:58:33,640 And so if I can focus on the positives of what I do have of the memories 989 00:58:33,640 --> 00:58:36,040 I have of what I do have currently whether it's 990 00:58:37,080 --> 00:58:40,440 I don't like for food. I don't like for shelter. I don't like for much 991 00:58:41,240 --> 00:58:45,880 I I miss that I miss that relationship. Um things like that but 992 00:58:47,080 --> 00:58:51,560 It at some point in time people that have grieved for longer have said it doesn't help you 993 00:58:51,720 --> 00:58:56,600 It doesn't help you to focus on how much pain you're in you never come out of it going 994 00:58:56,840 --> 00:59:01,640 I feel so good that i've focused on that so you try you pull yourself out quicker and quicker. Yeah 995 00:59:01,640 --> 00:59:02,600 Yeah 996 00:59:02,600 --> 00:59:07,400 But you can't be pulled out. You have to play. Yeah, and it's all about creating a new you right? 997 00:59:07,480 --> 00:59:10,840 The old you is gone. So you're learning life all over again 998 00:59:11,400 --> 00:59:15,960 And and you want it to be a happy new you like somebody who enjoys joys life 999 00:59:16,040 --> 00:59:21,960 So i'm gonna i'm gonna compare this to my my wife's issues, which is completely different and I apologize 1000 00:59:23,160 --> 00:59:26,280 For even remotely sounding condescending comparing this 1001 00:59:26,280 --> 00:59:32,040 But when she would have some of her panic attacks because of her stuff that she's got going on 1002 00:59:32,520 --> 00:59:34,340 it was about 1003 00:59:34,340 --> 00:59:42,040 Reprogramming your brain, right? So when you get the stimuli of you thinking about your child passing, you know, I I compared it 1004 00:59:42,760 --> 00:59:46,040 To my wife saying when you get this stimuli you need to think 1005 00:59:46,920 --> 00:59:50,680 You need to trigger yourself to change directions and think about something else 1006 00:59:51,320 --> 00:59:53,320 is that part of 1007 00:59:53,320 --> 00:59:56,280 What you guys are being coached on how to handle it? 1008 00:59:56,840 --> 01:00:02,360 So I can tell you you cannot live without that because you need distractions 1009 01:00:02,520 --> 01:00:07,240 Constantly to get through the pain because when you a lot of times even though I had a great 1010 01:00:08,440 --> 01:00:11,320 Memories with my daughter. It's very painful that she's not with me 1011 01:00:11,480 --> 01:00:13,560 So when I start to think about her 1012 01:00:14,280 --> 01:00:16,920 And I i'm not ready to be in that grieving situation 1013 01:00:17,080 --> 01:00:22,440 I need to distract myself to move on to move forward. Otherwise, it would be very difficult 1014 01:00:22,440 --> 01:00:27,560 so that that's kind of what i'm driving at moving on part is I think that some of the 1015 01:00:28,360 --> 01:00:29,720 I think 1016 01:00:29,720 --> 01:00:32,040 Maybe it you don't want to let go 1017 01:00:32,760 --> 01:00:37,000 No, you can't can you let go of your child? Can you never talk to your child again for the rest of your life? 1018 01:00:37,720 --> 01:00:42,760 Again, i'm on the outside and i'm just posing these things because you know, you've got these movies 1019 01:00:43,000 --> 01:00:47,320 You know you got like you got tom cruise when he loses goose and he goes out to the edge of the 1020 01:00:47,720 --> 01:00:51,480 the the the the the ship and he's got his dog tags and he throws them and he's like 1021 01:00:51,480 --> 01:00:56,120 Oh, I gotta let go of this this that's kind of what i'm driving at there comes at a point where 1022 01:00:57,000 --> 01:01:01,960 You got to make an emotional stand for yourself so that you can survive 1023 01:01:03,320 --> 01:01:09,320 And that's the process of learning your new self is how do you survive now with a dead child? 1024 01:01:10,200 --> 01:01:15,560 That's a whole process and that does not it doesn't happen in a couple years that that's the journey 1025 01:01:15,560 --> 01:01:18,520 We're on it's a long journey to figure out your life now 1026 01:01:18,520 --> 01:01:23,240 So where you're at today in 10 years will be something different correct. Yes, right 1027 01:01:24,040 --> 01:01:29,080 So do you you have other children? I do. Yes. How has that impacted your relationship with them? 1028 01:01:29,640 --> 01:01:30,600 Has it? 1029 01:01:30,600 --> 01:01:31,880 um 1030 01:01:31,880 --> 01:01:37,580 I think for me i'm more scared that they're gonna die also. Are you more protective? 1031 01:01:37,960 --> 01:01:39,960 We're not letting them do things 1032 01:01:40,120 --> 01:01:42,840 There are young adults. I don't have the 1033 01:01:42,840 --> 01:01:49,080 Key ability to do that. But yes, i'm terrified now when they go out because I know now that you can die 1034 01:01:49,240 --> 01:01:54,440 And i'm terrified that they will die. So yes, it's an extra level of worry 1035 01:01:54,920 --> 01:01:58,360 Correct an incredible extra level of worry. I mean 1036 01:01:59,080 --> 01:02:01,500 Again, you know my condolences 1037 01:02:02,200 --> 01:02:06,840 To all those folks out there that lose people that are close to them, especially their own children 1038 01:02:07,560 --> 01:02:09,560 it's just 1039 01:02:09,560 --> 01:02:14,520 You nobody can fathom nobody can go I mean it's just you know hats off to you 1040 01:02:14,600 --> 01:02:17,160 If there's anything we can do to help, um 1041 01:02:18,680 --> 01:02:23,000 With this i'd like to I mean, I kind of feel bad because we're sitting here drinking and 1042 01:02:24,120 --> 01:02:27,720 That's life. You should you should live life. You should we should be around life 1043 01:02:27,800 --> 01:02:31,320 We want to be around happiness and joy and we want to yeah 1044 01:02:31,320 --> 01:02:34,440 But there's like honestly sue when you when you show up some of these events 1045 01:02:34,440 --> 01:02:39,960 uh, I I kind of purposely kind of I feel like I tone it down a little bit because i'm kind of like 1046 01:02:41,000 --> 01:02:45,880 I don't want her to think that this is just a crazy even though we're fucking idiots, you know, but 1047 01:02:46,520 --> 01:02:48,520 And we are we are we are 1048 01:02:48,760 --> 01:02:53,240 I I want to be so respectful to you, you know, because I I get it 1049 01:02:54,200 --> 01:02:58,760 And we're not that you know, it just we're we are not those people that are going to jump in a car 1050 01:02:58,760 --> 01:03:06,360 And and drive like that. It's just everyone's got a story. So i'm excited about you guys creating a platform where people can share their story 1051 01:03:06,680 --> 01:03:11,720 And create a group and I think we can do even want to use this studio you can 1052 01:03:12,440 --> 01:03:19,480 Yeah, I think your your your podcast is drastically different than ours. You're you're I think trying to help people where we're just 1053 01:03:20,440 --> 01:03:25,640 Well, you see what we're doing. We are relating you're relating to people. There is a there's a audience for everything 1054 01:03:25,640 --> 01:03:31,720 Yes, absolutely is I think what we try to do with our podcast is provide escapism, right? 1055 01:03:31,800 --> 01:03:34,840 You guys have heard of escapism. Yes, that's where we actually live in a 1056 01:03:37,800 --> 01:03:39,800 172 episodes you can get lost in those 1057 01:03:40,600 --> 01:03:45,800 Yeah, so I mean, you know, somebody's had a crappy day, you know, they're they're working like crazy 1058 01:03:45,880 --> 01:03:51,000 They can they can listen to our podcast and they can just shake their heads at how these three guys are totally stupid 1059 01:03:51,000 --> 01:03:57,720 I have no idea what they're talking about, but we're funny on occasion and we're you know, sometimes saying, you know hot topics 1060 01:03:57,720 --> 01:04:00,840 you know hot hot sports opinions about things and and they can 1061 01:04:01,560 --> 01:04:06,920 Talk to the radio or whatever they're listening to and go no, I don't think you know, I mean it's escapism 1062 01:04:07,000 --> 01:04:13,320 It's to think about something different than what you're normally, you know mired down in looks like what we'd like to do in the evening 1063 01:04:13,320 --> 01:04:15,640 You know my wife and I all sit down and watch tv just 1064 01:04:15,640 --> 01:04:21,800 Total is like out. That's right. And then all of a sudden they start throwing politics and other shows and it pulls you back in so 1065 01:04:21,800 --> 01:04:26,600 Yep. So one thing one thing. Um, I think you guys might have a challenge with 1066 01:04:27,160 --> 01:04:32,360 Uh, at least just me trying to think about how you structure your podcast. I mean so 1067 01:04:33,160 --> 01:04:35,160 What you know, you'll have to think about 1068 01:04:36,120 --> 01:04:40,600 It has to be very structured because you you want them to take away something 1069 01:04:41,160 --> 01:04:43,800 If it's a help type of thing ours is just 1070 01:04:43,800 --> 01:04:49,320 Ours is just idiocracy and laughs. Yeah, you want to take away things 1071 01:04:49,480 --> 01:04:53,560 I think one thing you'll need to do is we go for about an hour and 10 minutes 1072 01:04:53,800 --> 01:04:58,920 I would probably limit yours to nothing over half an hour agreed right and be very targeted, right? 1073 01:04:59,160 --> 01:05:05,080 Yes, we have we have topics that we have already listed that we want to discuss. Perfect. So, okay 1074 01:05:05,400 --> 01:05:08,840 Okay, I think I think a podcast where it's that 1075 01:05:09,560 --> 01:05:11,160 uh 1076 01:05:11,160 --> 01:05:15,000 Pinpointed I think a good half hour on a topic or two or whatever it is 1077 01:05:16,040 --> 01:05:18,040 We're a lot more intense. Let's just 1078 01:05:20,040 --> 01:05:25,640 Well, but could you listen to an hour and 10 minutes, right? No, you're almost holding your breath even talking about it, right? So it's like 1079 01:05:26,680 --> 01:05:32,760 Yeah, the best part is is you're already ahead of you. Yeah. Yeah, you guys are like, oh my god. Can we go now? 1080 01:05:34,440 --> 01:05:36,120 Thank you 1081 01:05:36,120 --> 01:05:40,600 Yeah, cool. Anyway, we're excited for you and and we'll support you. However, you know, uh, 1082 01:05:40,600 --> 01:05:45,800 However, we can in terms of getting you set up and answer questions about stuff really appreciate. Yeah. Thank you very much 1083 01:05:45,880 --> 01:05:47,880 We appreciate that. Yeah, sure sure 1084 01:05:48,360 --> 01:05:53,880 So with that being said, uh, we've got more topics to talk about. Uh, we're gonna talk about how much time we have producer 1085 01:05:54,760 --> 01:05:57,320 Seven minutes seven minutes. Yeah, we could talk about my 1086 01:05:58,920 --> 01:06:01,640 Suffer through the whole podcast over the first part of it you made it 1087 01:06:04,120 --> 01:06:09,080 So next seven minutes you guys have to actually engage in what we're talking about we're gonna talk about madonna 1088 01:06:09,080 --> 01:06:14,920 Did I hear that right? Madonna. First of all, how old is madonna? She's in her 60s mid 60s in her 70s 1089 01:06:15,080 --> 01:06:21,160 And she's dressing like a 17 year old I think right? Well, I think I think but props to her. She looks great. I mean 1090 01:06:23,000 --> 01:06:29,320 For the age no look at her that like right there. Yeah, no, she's 65 1091 01:06:32,440 --> 01:06:37,240 She has got some crazy shit going on somewhere in there is real skin. Yeah 1092 01:06:37,240 --> 01:06:42,840 Well, she was I mean look at her back in the day. She looks like a fucking grapefruit. That's been 1093 01:06:43,480 --> 01:06:46,760 Pumpkin, she's like she's very stretched lots of fillers 1094 01:06:47,000 --> 01:06:54,360 You know, it's the sad part about that we see that so often when aging, you know aging women aging men too 1095 01:06:54,360 --> 01:06:56,760 right there's men and women and they why 1096 01:06:57,160 --> 01:07:03,880 Why why can't they just be comfortable in their skin and and not try to reclaim the glory of Hollywood when they were at? 1097 01:07:03,880 --> 01:07:11,000 Their peak and I don't understand. She's got these butt in uh, implants. Have you ever seen the pictures? No 1098 01:07:11,560 --> 01:07:19,000 Seriously, I don't yes. Uh there it's like she's wearing a chair. Oh my god, like these cushions that are on like 1099 01:07:20,120 --> 01:07:25,960 Whatever. I mean, I just want to hear her sing. I don't care about all the she's still touring. Is she not? 1100 01:07:26,040 --> 01:07:30,600 She just started another tour. So I'd be curious if she's got her fair real tour 1101 01:07:30,600 --> 01:07:33,720 So pull up that one word ahead the timeline scroll scroll down 1102 01:07:34,760 --> 01:07:36,760 That had a different years 1103 01:07:37,160 --> 01:07:39,160 Uh, keep going right there 1104 01:07:39,320 --> 01:07:42,040 Okay, here we go. 82 85 96 1105 01:07:45,160 --> 01:07:50,920 We have any audio on that that's the madonna only fans that's a video wow so 64 1106 01:07:53,240 --> 01:07:55,960 Seriously no one even commented on that. I thought it was funny 1107 01:07:55,960 --> 01:08:03,640 All right, it's 82 85 96 2016 and 20 so basically almost every 1108 01:08:04,440 --> 01:08:06,440 I mean, she's cute. She's just an idiot 1109 01:08:07,080 --> 01:08:11,400 She's not cute anymore. She she's I don't know what she's done to her face. Well, she 1110 01:08:12,680 --> 01:08:14,280 She had 1111 01:08:14,280 --> 01:08:18,040 She was cute. She had like 15 000 bangladesh boy 1112 01:08:19,080 --> 01:08:22,440 Uh, his foreskins injected in her face. No, that's the thing 1113 01:08:22,440 --> 01:08:27,720 That is a real thing that you know what we thought he was crazy sandra bullock that's apparently a real thing 1114 01:08:28,040 --> 01:08:31,960 Yeah, but we don't have to talk about it. It's gross. No, no, let's let's let's open this can of worms 1115 01:08:32,120 --> 01:08:35,960 Let's open this are we injecting bangladesh you boys foreskin? Yeah 1116 01:08:37,320 --> 01:08:43,320 Seriously, yes. Yes. Yeah, but not necessarily bangladesh, but just mostly, you know foreign foreign 1117 01:08:43,960 --> 01:08:49,480 Children's what what does that do for one's body? Evidently it's supposed to 1118 01:08:49,480 --> 01:08:56,840 Right anti-aging or something. It's anti-injected not even just rubbing them on or something like a restoration 1119 01:08:57,480 --> 01:08:58,920 It's restoration 1120 01:08:58,920 --> 01:09:02,220 It's a way of mitigating the cellular 1121 01:09:03,080 --> 01:09:06,840 Dk, I guess I don't know they just inject themselves with the thing. Here we go 1122 01:09:07,000 --> 01:09:10,680 Here it was it was sandra bullock and the oddest thing it was 1123 01:09:11,160 --> 01:09:16,760 Stem cells that are pulling from foreskin the force in tissue is collected during circumcision in the sem 1124 01:09:16,760 --> 01:09:23,720 the stem cells in the growth factors present in the tissue are extracted and processed into a cream and 1125 01:09:24,280 --> 01:09:26,920 Shot all over the face topically. Oh god 1126 01:09:27,640 --> 01:09:32,600 What so ellen degeneris called out sandra bullock on her show and she did? 1127 01:09:33,480 --> 01:09:38,280 She did see if you can pull up the the sandra bullock. What is that bitch's name ellen degeneris? 1128 01:09:39,080 --> 01:09:44,920 Hold on sandra and ellen to be real here and in face. So what these celebrities are doing are buying 1129 01:09:44,920 --> 01:09:50,620 exceptionally expensive creams from somebody that told them oh you got to use this for your face is great 1130 01:09:50,780 --> 01:09:52,140 They probably don't even know what's in it 1131 01:09:52,140 --> 01:09:56,700 And if they do sandra bullock does if they do if they're told what's in it, which is stem cells from foreskins 1132 01:09:56,780 --> 01:10:02,220 They're gonna be like she didn't say stem cells. She said it was chunky foreskin. Oh god. I don't know 1133 01:10:02,300 --> 01:10:07,180 She didn't say chunky, but okay, but I didn't find any of you arguing when it was semen. I'm just gonna say 1134 01:10:07,420 --> 01:10:09,420 Well, that's natural 1135 01:10:10,380 --> 01:10:12,380 And that is good for the skin. Yeah 1136 01:10:12,380 --> 01:10:14,780 It's generally women's skin not men's skin. Oh 1137 01:10:17,020 --> 01:10:19,340 No, I don't godly I don't use that no 1138 01:10:20,220 --> 01:10:25,020 No, but women should no, but but center bullock and ellen we want to pull up the uh, there it is 1139 01:10:25,020 --> 01:10:29,900 There it is. This podcast got weird. All right, see if we can't pull up. I don't know if we have sound though 1140 01:10:30,540 --> 01:10:32,940 All right. Well there she is sitting with uh ellen degeneracy 1141 01:10:32,940 --> 01:10:39,100 She's getting very uncomfortable and blushing and obviously she's talking about foreskins on her face. She does look great though. She does 1142 01:10:39,100 --> 01:10:42,380 I gotta argue with that right now. You can't 1143 01:10:43,500 --> 01:10:47,260 So the title of this is center bullock got a penis facial. Yeah 1144 01:10:47,900 --> 01:10:51,260 Come on. She's that's a bit much but that got people to watch 1145 01:10:52,540 --> 01:10:54,540 There you go. I got shy to watch because he found it 1146 01:10:57,340 --> 01:11:02,380 First of all, I I really I I think sander bullock was super attractive. I think she's 1147 01:11:03,100 --> 01:11:05,740 a rock star in uh, I might be 1148 01:11:06,540 --> 01:11:07,260 but 1149 01:11:07,260 --> 01:11:11,180 Uh it that changed after I saw this interview because i'm kind of like how shallow 1150 01:11:11,980 --> 01:11:17,820 Can you be to have to go through those types of those legs? It's just a cream that their their specialty 1151 01:11:18,460 --> 01:11:24,460 Skin doctor gave to them. So you're you're you're supporting this. I am I think foreskins should be uh, 1152 01:11:25,100 --> 01:11:27,100 Okay, i'm not gonna appreciate that 1153 01:11:27,400 --> 01:11:29,400 anyway 1154 01:11:29,400 --> 01:11:36,680 Yeah, I you know what's the sadder part of this again is the whole chasing. What is it chasing the the youth? 1155 01:11:37,160 --> 01:11:39,880 Yeah, the founder of youth. Thank you exactly what I was looking for 1156 01:11:39,880 --> 01:11:42,520 Well, honestly to put a different spin on it 1157 01:11:42,600 --> 01:11:47,880 I think if you're a hollywood actress, especially someone like sander bullock that you have pressure to look young 1158 01:11:47,960 --> 01:11:53,080 You do sure look fantastic. Otherwise, they're not going to put you in the next speed for correct 1159 01:11:53,160 --> 01:11:57,240 Well, you know what can you imagine all the pressure she lives under to look young and beautiful 1160 01:11:57,240 --> 01:12:00,840 Well, we've had that look what she's up against right? Well 20 year olds that are 1161 01:12:01,480 --> 01:12:05,080 Well, we've had that discussion and actually one of her last movies 1162 01:12:06,440 --> 01:12:08,280 She looked terrible 1163 01:12:08,280 --> 01:12:10,600 She was older no makeup 1164 01:12:11,240 --> 01:12:13,240 Uh, she was an ex-prisoner 1165 01:12:13,320 --> 01:12:15,320 And she looked terrible 1166 01:12:16,120 --> 01:12:18,120 Oh in a role that was meant for 1167 01:12:18,600 --> 01:12:21,880 Yeah, it was just yeah, she didn't look young. She didn't look hot or anything like that 1168 01:12:22,280 --> 01:12:24,520 And I don't think she had any prosthetics or anything. It was just 1169 01:12:24,520 --> 01:12:30,600 You know, i'm sure that she has a makeup on to make her look good for her. I mean, I mean, you know, she's playing a role 1170 01:12:30,600 --> 01:12:33,640 Then she's yeah. What do you got here? A piece of skin? 1171 01:12:34,360 --> 01:12:37,320 Uh that came from a young person 1172 01:12:38,120 --> 01:12:44,280 Um far far away and they somehow figured out how to extract it's four skin from a korean baby 1173 01:12:50,120 --> 01:12:53,480 Wow, yeah, but she was called out it's just stem cells 1174 01:12:53,480 --> 01:12:55,480 Whatever you know what? 1175 01:12:55,480 --> 01:12:57,480 You're legitimizing it 1176 01:12:58,360 --> 01:13:00,360 Okay, yeah, I I apologize 1177 01:13:00,760 --> 01:13:05,080 So what do you want them to do with the foreskin later? I mean are they supposed to save it and preserve it? 1178 01:13:05,160 --> 01:13:08,840 I mean, they're not they're not using it for anything. So they're just extracting this down 1179 01:13:08,840 --> 01:13:12,280 Now if you want to like, you know, if you want to like feel paralysis or something like that 1180 01:13:12,680 --> 01:13:14,840 That's the way I'm gonna roll because I take a dump every morning 1181 01:13:14,840 --> 01:13:18,760 You want to try to if there was something to make me look youthful in your dump? 1182 01:13:18,760 --> 01:13:23,640 There's a chance that it could be sold. That's all i'm gonna say there's a chance. There's a market for well 1183 01:13:23,640 --> 01:13:25,640 I mean, it's no different than uh, what do you call it? 1184 01:13:27,000 --> 01:13:32,440 The umbilical cord blood there you go. There you go. Well people also eat the placenta. Oh, yeah, that's a whole lot of 1185 01:13:33,160 --> 01:13:35,240 Well, I mean that that's going on here 1186 01:13:35,320 --> 01:13:39,720 Well, that has been a practice for like hundreds and hundreds of years because it is 1187 01:13:40,340 --> 01:13:45,640 Incredibly nutritious for the mother who just who just gave birth to herself. You put that like 1188 01:13:45,640 --> 01:13:48,840 Like on a nacho. Yes, it's like supposedly it's a part of her 1189 01:13:49,800 --> 01:13:54,680 She's not eating herself. Well sure it is it came out of her. Oh my god, maybe it was attached to her 1190 01:13:54,840 --> 01:13:57,580 Wow, maybe mix it in a nice fettuccine alfredo 1191 01:13:58,680 --> 01:14:00,680 Sprinkle it on juliana 1192 01:14:01,480 --> 01:14:07,240 Yeah, well spritz a little bit. Okay pizza or paté anyway back to madonna back 1193 01:14:08,760 --> 01:14:14,360 Well, hold on let's talk about uh trap, uh, not trap. Yeah, travis kelsey and uh, and taylor swifts 1194 01:14:14,360 --> 01:14:16,760 We'll do that on our second half for the second half 1195 01:14:17,400 --> 01:14:24,040 That's the music all kinds of stuff. Look, uh, it's a little convoluted here, but you know what? I I enjoyed the podcast 1196 01:14:24,040 --> 01:14:25,400 It was a great one 1197 01:14:25,400 --> 01:14:26,440 um 1198 01:14:26,440 --> 01:14:31,320 We got the second half that's about to pop open. We've got a brand new bottle of bourbon. We're gonna bring it in and uh, 1199 01:14:31,880 --> 01:14:34,600 We got lined up. We got a whole list of shit. We never even talked about 1200 01:14:35,480 --> 01:14:39,160 Which is pretty typical. Thank you. Mr. Producer. Thank you our guest sue. Thank you 1201 01:14:39,160 --> 01:14:46,200 Thank you for having us. I don't know if this is squashing your dreams of a podcast or making you more excited about a podcast 1202 01:14:46,200 --> 01:14:51,560 But I hope you guys do it and I hope it reaches a lot of people. Thank you. Thank you very much dudes like us 1203 01:14:51,560 --> 01:14:56,040 I am sean and i'm jeff and i'm an ensue 1204 01:14:56,040 --> 01:15:08,840 You all right