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And yes it is the day after September 11th.
Yeah, very somber news in the mornings for yesterday.
It just, what is it, 20 something years ago?
22 years ago.
And you know the big argument, I'm not going to start this podcast off with slamming Joe
Biden but it's just, you know.
Oh him not going to New York City?
Well, Campbell Toll Harris was there.
He needs to be at one of the three.
Yeah, but he was in Alaska.
Well, he was on his way back from Vietnam.
Whatever, whatever.
You know what?
Come on.
I know.
Whatever.
But as a commander in chief, as the president of this country, for these type of things,
you should be there.
Now, the White House's take on it was, and I don't know if it's a good take, is, well
22 years after Pearl Harbor presidents didn't go out there.
That was a really shitty comment.
Yeah, I was like, well first of all, how do they know that?
Fact check that please.
Yeah, right, right.
It's just like, come on.
That's, that's.
No, it doesn't make it right either.
Yeah.
But you know what, two rights don't make it wrong.
The Pentagon is right down the street from his house.
Right.
So, but what it caused was people saying, you know, this is what we were scared of,
that you know, the country's forgetting.
I mean, even our president is not going to New York City, you know, the country's forgetting.
Did you guys think the, what is your take?
Has the country forgotten?
I think, I was listening to some of the radio yesterday, some of the talk radio, and it's
not even taught in some history classes in school these days.
Right.
So yes, the younger, us, our generation, no.
Because we were there.
We woke up that morning.
Yeah.
I don't think our kids will forget it.
Stephen was not born yet, but he lived in this house, so he was fully aware what happened.
We'd watch the commemorative stuff, the five year, the 10 year, so he's fully aware.
Oh, good for you.
Right.
So he knows what happened.
I don't think we were as diligent with our kids about, you know, making sure that they
absorb the gravity of that day.
Yeah, we did.
And Brandon was too.
So he, these two, so he, when you ask him, he'll probably say he remembers it, but he
doesn't.
So, but again, we watched the stuff, the news, and we talked about it.
You know, if it doesn't impact them, it's gotta have an impact when it happens.
So it's fresh for us.
It's fresh for all the adults.
But for the kids, I get it.
It's just, to them, it's probably just like anything in the history books.
It's just part of history.
So Harbor was how far we moved from us.
We're fully aware of it and the impact it made.
Yeah, yeah.
When we were born, or we were kids.
Well, they taught that in high school and they taught that in school.
That's what I mean.
You know, it brings up a whole litany of issues we have with the educational programs that
we have in school and some of the preferential syllabus or some of the preferential topics
they want to talk about.
I've heard of talk about, you know, butt sex and the proper way to give blowjobs.
And you know, it's disgusting.
I just said, come on, man.
You know, teach school.
That's what it's for.
It's for arithmetic.
It's for English.
It's for reading.
It's for history.
It's to learn about, you know, don't repeat our mistakes in the past.
And they're not doing that right now.
We're just part of the system.
I feel, man, I just feel like there's some sort of cabal that's leading our children
down the path of failure.
There are good teachers out there.
Don't don't don't.
I don't think it's them.
It's not the teachers.
Right.
It's the some are some of the teachers are pushing it.
But I think it's hopefully it's a minority, right?
Because you see it on TikTok.
It starts at the top, right?
It starts at the administration.
It's the Department of Education.
It's the even the DOJ putting out that that hit on American parents, you know, that calling
us domestic terrorists because we disagree with the curriculum that they're teaching
in school.
We just that one dude was just pardoned by the governor.
I forget what governor it was and what state was, but Virginia in Virginia.
He had his daughter was sexually assaulted in a bathroom by some dude that and they were
covering it up, identifying as a female.
And it's like, dude, I don't care if you identify as a female.
But first of all, you shouldn't be out of the bathrooms.
You know, you should go.
If you want to be a trans or something like that and they don't have your specific bathroom,
there should be some sort of place for you to go to make you feel comfortable.
And that would be the nurse's office.
That's what I feel.
Hey, look, why should we send the little girls to the nurse's office?
They're afraid to go to the restroom because there's going to be some dude in there dressed
up like a girl.
That was a meltdown, though.
They covered it up and they had and then there was they moved him to another school and there
was another and then he did it again.
I know it's crazy.
It's but didn't the superintendent get got got fired, right?
Doesn't matter.
I know.
That's what I'm saying.
It's not enough.
Whatever it was, it wasn't.
There is some sort of cabal.
And I keep saying that and it sounds stupid.
Me even saying that out loud.
How could there be a cabal in two thousand twenty three?
Are you there easily can be.
But there I mean, it's just like, well, it's coming from the top.
All right.
Somebody is saying it's OK to do that.
If our own Department of Justice is putting a hit on our parents, that's the very top.
How is that possible that that they do that?
That letter came from the teachers union, right?
Right.
It's from the teachers union to the White House.
Yes, say, say, you know, we need your help in the White House agreed.
And they least the Justice Department did.
And one of the White House put pressure on the Justice Department to take care of these
parents.
Merrick Garland, right?
Right.
The attorney general.
And they started investigating.
All that bullshit.
I know it's crazy.
He denies it to this day.
Of course he does.
Yeah, I was I was talking to the basketball buddies this morning.
Yeah, I don't know how we got on this conversation, but oh, oh, I know how.
So he's he's a young dude and he, you know, he's married and he has little little kids
and he goes, don't you live in this subdivision over here?
I was like, yeah, I do.
Well, you guys move in.
Did you buy a house?
He goes, oh, no, we can't afford to buy.
We're just renting.
Right.
And he goes, man, I feel bad for you for your generation, like young couples and young families
that can't afford homes.
Right.
Everything is so expensive.
They have no choice but to just to rent.
Right.
And then we got into this conversation where R.F.
Kennedy Jr. was apparently interviewing.
He had an interview where he was talking about how Blackwater Vanguard and God, I can't remember
the third one, but they they buy up all the houses.
They're buying up all the houses and they have a plan that within six years they're
going to have six.
They're going to be in control of over 60 percent of the nations through like, you know, shell
companies and shadow companies and stuff like that.
Right.
And then you got to then you got to think what is their end game there?
Right.
If you're thinking cabal and you're thinking, you know, big conspiracy type of shit.
Right.
Well, we try not to get crazy.
But so they're they're end game could be they want people renting for life because think
about it.
What is what is home ownership?
What is property ownership instill wealth, individualism, individual wealth, individualism.
Right.
And they don't want individualism.
Individualism is bad for what they what they want.
They want to strip mine the middle class to support.
But they want like they want the socialists.
They want the communist type of you're just a number.
Get along with the program.
The government controls this.
The government controls that.
They don't want you to have individual rights.
They don't want you to have individualism.
That's why they're tearing apart the family.
The family is very much individual.
Right.
Well, I've heard that that the Black Rocks and the vanguards and I don't know if Zillow
was part of that or not.
Crazy.
Or these corporations are buying like whole neighborhoods.
Right.
And whole neighborhoods.
And this is this is a Democrat.
They can set the price.
RF Kennedy Jr.
And they can set the price for whatever the hell they want.
That's right.
And they're they're driving up the prices so that people can't own.
You can buy it at this or you could rent it at this.
Right.
Rent.
Rent is more than my damn mortgage, though.
Yeah, I know.
That doesn't make sense.
I think the problem is is the down payment maybe.
Yeah, but these rents.
Well, right now, I could through the roof.
Well, that I could I could rent my house more than what my mortgage is like almost double.
People rent apartments, two bedroom apartments for more than what my mortgage is.
Yeah.
Now, granted, it's not more than what the mortgage and the taxes are the real estate
taxes, but it's more than the mortgage.
I mean, I would need to do the math.
I can't remember if it might be as much.
Well, mine, including taxes and everything, I could get more renting.
Yeah, I just want to pay more renting.
That's crazy.
Now, I get it.
Some people don't have the credit, right?
They can't buy a home because they can't qualify for the loan.
And I get that situation.
But for people who can qualify for the loan, but it's you know, it's just I don't know.
I don't know what's going on.
Well, put it is cuckoo.
Well, here's another thing.
You have to live where you can afford.
Right.
And some people don't want to live 30 miles north.
Right.
Well, you may have to.
You may have to.
The gentleman works for me, put his house up for sale Saturday.
And that same day, he had a more than asking offer.
Site unseen.
Well, I guess they showed up.
Oh, wow.
I mean, do you remember when it was crazy hot like a year ago?
I don't know.
Same day.
Well, there were people making a higher than than.
Oh, yes.
And they had never seen it.
They didn't even look at me.
I guess online they looked at pictures.
But right.
Unbelievable.
So he's like, all right.
Well, that happened a lot faster than I expected.
Same day.
More than I asked.
What do you expect?
Well, then they're doing a zero cost lease back.
So they'll be able to live there until the end of October.
Right.
Because they're actually going to be moving out of state.
And so hold on.
So they this is in Texas?
Yeah.
Oh, OK.
On the other side of Fort Worth.
Fort Worth.
OK.
And he's out not in the country, but right on the right on the edge.
Right on the edge.
He's got like half an acre or something like that.
Oh, nice.
He they paid.
They've worked on it for the last month, painted it, cleared it, declared it, which
you're supposed to do with.
Oh, yeah.
Make it presentable.
So and they probably didn't even need to do that.
Yeah.
So they paid the realtor, you know, take all the pictures, posted it open house, whatever.
I wonder if they just for sale by owner.
You save like so much money.
I'm not using a realtor.
I know.
Four to ten thousand dollars.
I know.
And that's a racket.
It's three to six percent.
And they did.
They did what?
They did what to sell that house?
Nothing for a day.
That's crazy.
That's it.
That's got to be the easiest money ever.
Right.
So anyway, it's the market is still fairly hot here locally.
The house across the street from me sold in a couple of weeks for a shit ton of money.
God, I remember the house on the corner of my street that hasn't sold yet.
How long has it been on the market?
You know, it's a couple of months.
A couple of months.
Yeah.
My house, man.
It's sold for one hundred thousand dollars or more than its price of value.
I think location hurts that I wouldn't want that house.
I remember when I sold my first house to move into the house I'm in now, it was on the market
for six months and we had to double we had to double more like double pay for like two.
I mean, imagine that.
No, our first house sold in a couple of weeks.
It sold fast.
So months is how long it took our house.
So we put it up in like April and we were out of there by the first of May.
Unbelievable.
Into an apartment while this house was being built.
And it wasn't the house.
It was the market market at the time.
It was like twenty eighty eight, twenty eighteen.
I mean, was that no.
Oh, no, that can't be right.
That's when you moved into the house.
No, no, no, no, no, no.
I moved into the house, the new house in 2002.
I don't know what the hell I'm thinking.
So yeah, so it was 2000 2001.
Right.
So we moved in here and that was three brutal.
Well, we moved in.
So obviously the market turned around because our house sold really fast.
Right.
For we made some good money off of it.
A lot of us put that big chunk down payment down.
Oh, yeah, we didn't make that much because I mean, you know, because like I said, six
months.
So, well, dudes like us have to go through stuff like that.
Oh, yeah.
I lived in Irving, Texas, bought my first house and we went shopping.
And Tara was like my wife was like, let's go to the Frisco Independent School District.
It's got the best rates ratings for school for to raise our kids.
So we're like, all right, cool.
We go look to go buy a house and we end up buying a house before we sold the other one.
So I was thinking, it's going to sell.
I don't worry about didn't sell.
So we ended up leasing it out and we had a treacherous time, one tenant after the other.
I would think we went through four or five and where they were like tearing up single
one was a dud, just didn't pay, you know, and one that has that work and you never got
money.
You never got your money.
Some of them.
There was one was a family member and whatever.
And the other one was and we lost, you know, like four months of rent.
And then the next one was some lady and she had three, four kids and it was single and
she did well and she was all great, super happy, super nice, played, paid the first
month's rent, the last month's rent.
You guys were excited after the night.
Oh, great.
And then she paid like another one and that was it.
And then she said, sorry, I can't afford it.
She just like just stopped paying.
And then, yeah, but we ended up, did you call her and say, yeah, yeah.
Well, I had to stop by the house and eventually we got some legal paperwork for processed
and she ended up leaving and the power was turned off.
The water was turned off, you know, and I was like, fuck man.
So I had the water turned on and the power turned back on and she had not turned off
the washer and dryer water lines.
So when the city came by, we don't live there.
So when the city came by, I turned the water back on.
The water was viewed.
It destroyed the house.
So she took her washer dryer.
Correct.
And the water was already turned off.
So she's like, I don't, I don't know.
I don't know.
It probably wasn't deliberate.
It doesn't matter.
The fact of the matter is it happened and we ended up, we ended up, I forget exactly
what we did, but we ended up selling the house, what they call a short sale, which is you
just have someone take over the payments and you sign over.
Yeah.
You don't make it.
You just lose your equity.
You lose your equity.
You just say, just take it.
Just take the bananas.
The bananas?
Yeah.
Remember that from, what is it?
Eddie Murphy, a Beverly Hills cop.
He goes to the hotel and he was going to go over and do the old banana in the tailpipe
thing.
Oh yes.
And the guy was at the buffet.
He was like, how much for the banana?
He said, just take the bananas.
I miss old Eddie Murphy.
He was awesome.
I heard they were making another one of those, Beverly Hills cop.
They are making them?
I heard they were.
It's tough to some of these stars.
First of all, I really enjoy Eddie Murphy.
Even the older, like Steve Martin and just, actually it's most of the SNL crew from back
in the time.
Yeah, you're right.
It's just, anytime one of these guys come out, I don't enjoy their movie like I used
to.
It's just, it's the same humor.
You mean like the original movie?
Or the newer movies that they come out of?
No, no, no, just the actors themselves.
Oh, gotcha.
They're the same thing.
Like Robin Williams, he had the same character no matter what he fucking did.
But actually he came out with some really good movies, so I can't really throw stone
at him.
Yeah, he did.
He did.
He showed some-
He had some good drama movies.
He showed some-
Like Steve Martin, what's the word?
Breath.
He showed some of his acting.
He did.
He had different roles in some series.
But you have some that don't.
Like Steve Martin, he was the same thing all the time and it's just-
And Danny Chase, I don't know if his humor really carries it today.
It's just different.
Well, his Doritos commercial was pretty-
A Doritos commercial.
Which one was that?
During the Super Bowl.
Will Ferrell is the only one-
I mean, he was really well done.
His acting was fantastic.
The Will Ferrell one is the only one that I could continue to watch Will Ferrell movies
because he's just a fucking nut.
There are some people that can't stand him.
Like, can't stand him.
Well, he's starting to jump the shark a little bit.
Like he had a couple movies out with Mark-
Wahlberg?
Mark Wahlberg, the stepdad or something like that.
Oh, no.
Not stepdad.
Father-in-law or what is it called?
They were cops, weren't they?
No, no, no.
That one too, but-
It's where they're both- Will Ferrell is the stepdad and Marky Mark, Mark Wahlberg is-
Oh, is like the biker stuff.
Is the real guy.
Yes, yes.
And he's like super cool.
Right.
I remember that.
What is the name of that?
Why can't we think of it?
Is it the stepdad or the succession?
No, it's- and he's such a wuss.
Will Ferrell is such a- he doesn't know how to do anything.
Mark Wahlberg just totally dogs him.
They made two movies out of it.
Daddy's Home.
Daddy's Home and Daddy's Home 2.
There you go.
That's it.
Oh yeah, and he's on the bike.
Mark Wahlberg is funny.
A lot of his characters are the same.
Mark Wahlberg?
Yeah, that's true.
Will Ferrell.
Oh yeah, for sure.
I like the one where he had a stepbrother.
Stepbrothers, I think that was the name of it.
And it was like two retards.
Where they smashed their balls over his drum set?
I mean, some of this stuff is just hilarious.
Don't touch my drum set.
But he had some good movies.
I mean, Talladega Nights was gotta be one of the best.
I didn't care for it.
Are you serious?
The Ballad of Ricky Bobby.
Oh gosh, I thought it was great.
They had a bunch of one-liners in there.
See if we can do a little preview of that for I don't know if Ferrell-
Especially, my favorite scene from that movie is the-
Alright, so that kind of brings up-
That right there is the funniest scene in the movie.
Oh, when they're at the dinner table.
I'm gonna come at you like a spider monkey.
The kids are so disrespectful.
You know what's cool, what we just heard right there?
It was the narration of it.
It was a trailer and the narration.
I mean, I don't see those anymore.
They're very rare.
And I'll tell you, and I know they may have in the movie theater, but I don't even go
to movies that much, Maury.
Oh yeah, the voice.
The previews were a big thing.
They're going to the matinees as a kid and seeing all the movies growing up.
And that was like, you know, the herby goes bananas.
It's like all this weird shit.
Nowadays these voices-
I try not to look because they show the whole damn movie in the previews.
I mean, I guess that's been an argument that we've made forever.
But if it's a movie I want to watch-
I don't think they do the voiceovers anymore, do they?
Oh, the voiceovers.
Yeah, no, I guess not.
They just show snippets and thematic music.
Right.
Right?
I don't think they have like that guy, the voiceover.
No, that's a good point.
They don't do the voiceovers.
That would be effective.
They should go back to that.
Yeah, it was just one guy that did all those.
Oh, and then he died and then that was it?
Could be.
There was no other guy that could do it.
That was the name of the movie phone guy.
Right.
If you know the name of the movie you'd like to see, press one.
Just like the survivor guy, right?
Real man of Jesus.
Right, but he hasn't died, but when he stopped doing it that was it.
That movie phone thing was such a pain in the ass.
Oh my God.
Movie phone?
If you know the name of the movie you'd like to see, press three.
To get a list of them.
What?
I just pulled the newspaper out.
Sorry, bud.
It was too much.
Hold on, walk me through this?
Did you ever call the movie guy thing?
It was movie times.
Oh, yes.
So you had to put in there which theater you wanted to go to.
Type in the zip code for the area you want your movie to go to.
It was a beating.
That is a generational thing that they will not understand.
And if you know the name of the movie theater you'd like to go, press one.
Yes, everything was touch-tone phone.
If you have a gay friend that sits to your left, press two.
That totally was... I mean, but that's still there, right?
I mean, there's still touch-tone stuff.
If you want it in English, press one.
If you want it in Spanish, press two.
I mean, in Espanol, press dos.
You know what I mean?
They still have touch-tone, touch-tone, you know, press dos.
But that was everything for us.
It was.
And you had to spell things out with the letters.
They call those T9.
Oh, God.
Like when texting first came out, it was all the T9 stuff.
So you're like, I need the letter C. Two, two, two, two.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But you know what, even the younger generation that got those phones originally...
They were fast.
Oh, my God.
They mastered that.
It was like... Yeah, I was like going, okay, hold on, hold on.
Second one is the third one.
Okay, hold on.
One, two... Ah, fuck, that's the wrong one.
I mean, you know what I mean?
But they were like... I mean, it was amazing.
Yes.
I think it's just young brains, man.
They just do better than old brains.
Well, I just think they do it more.
Well, let's chat about the stag boibin.
It's 133 poof and the stag... Is it stag?
Stag.
It's not a bourbon, it's a whisky because it's 133 poof, right?
No, it's bourbon, I believe.
Remember, it can be, as long as it's barled...
It has to go into the barrel at 125.
Well, it can't be more than 125 when it goes into the barrel.
Oh, so 124.999999999999999999999999999.
Or 125.
Yeah, so it can't be more than 125.
It can be more than 125.
It can be 125.
Of course, of course.
I'm just saying, it can be 125.
It just can't be 25.00001.
But like you guys know, if it water evaporates during the aging process, the proof shoots
up.
So this is the bourbon.
It's stag.
Mr. Producer, you got some stag up on the screen.
We can read a little verbiage on there.
So let's talk about our first, I mean, pulling it back.
It's got a nutty, it first of all is strong as shit.
I was going to say, let's get back to that because there are very few.
We have two maybe that are in the 130 range.
This one and I think an Elijah Craig is in the 130 range.
So that is in the rumble.
Yeah, the rumble, I think Elijah Craig is this one.
That's a distinction we should call out because there are very, very few that are this powerful,
right?
I like the one that's powerful, but it's got a very woody, it's got a very bitter woody
taste.
And when I say that, I don't mean that's necessarily a bad thing.
So look, folks, this bourbon is not for the weak.
All right?
You have to be a seasoned bourbon taster.
I mean, not just for the punch you're about to receive, but you got to be able to power
through that punch and pull out those flavors.
And I think it's great.
It's really rich.
It's really good.
It's rich.
It's good.
I don't think as much octane as it is, we have others that are much hotter feeling.
Yeah, yes.
Yes.
Good point.
That's a great point because you would think 133 proof, oh my God, it's going to burn,
you know, top to bottom.
I think if you shot that, I think you'd gag.
Oh yeah.
Let's try it.
You guys ready?
Go for it.
No, no, no, I'm not doing that.
So you know what's interesting is I was bringing up some, we were talking about something about
bourbon and high proof bourbon to somebody.
I forget who it was, but I told them, they were like, well, which one should I buy?
Should I buy the Hunter proof or should I buy the single barrel one or the cast strength
one?
And I'm like, look, it's in my opinion that I don't want to buy a Hunter proof bourbon
because or lower because it used to be 90.
I know it's creeping up and up and up.
What's happening here?
Well, my point is I don't want to buy that bourbon because why do I want to pay somebody
to water down good bourbon?
I would rather have the cask strength, the barrel proof right out of the barrel.
Just give me what came out of the barrel.
I'll pay for that.
And if I want to add water to dumb it down to a Hunter proof, that's on me.
All right.
So here's the thing.
We're at that point, but the vast, I mean vast majority of people are not there.
And that's why when we go to Total Wine or any other liquor store, 90%, I don't know,
what percent would you put it at?
We don't even, we don't buy much anymore.
We, we don't.
And but what percentage of the bourbons that are on the shelf are 90 or less?
Most.
I mean, 90% probably gotta be.
I think I'm right there with you, Sean.
At this point in our bourbon career experience, we prefer we well, we were not going to invest
in 80 90.
I'll still look at some hundreds depending on what it is.
But but we're looking for that single barrel cast.
I think I agree with kind of what he's talking about.
I agree too.
I mean, really, if you're going to have it, just get the full one, get the full bodied
perfect one that comes out.
And then yeah, because this one actually would taste good with the cube.
And if you pop a cube in there, it's going to dumb it down to 110.
I mean, well, I mean, you're certainly going to make it not feel it, not pack a punch.
But here's the problem.
So here's the problem.
So when I, when I talk to others about, you know, how many bourbons we have and all this
kind of stuff, and what's your favorite, that's always what they ask.
What's your favorite?
And then I hesitate because I'm like, OK, do you like bourbon?
Yeah, we like bourbon.
All right.
Do you drink it?
How do you drink it?
You drink it, you mix it, you put it on a cube, you drink it straight.
Can you take high proof stuff?
Right.
And so and they're like, well, you know, normally we drink, you know, whatever 80 90 proof.
And I was like, see, and I'm like, that's great.
Now when you go to the higher stuff, pussy.
Yeah.
I mean, and your husband allows that.
Your husband is a male, right?
So, I mean, but identifying as a husband.
But the problem, the problem is that that's the majority.
The majority of people.
Here's the thing.
Those bourbons taste great.
They do.
Yeah.
Until you know better.
It's kind of like vanilla ice cream from Wal-Mart.
I mean, you can go by.
I don't know, guys.
I mean, it's about enjoyment.
It's about enjoying your bourbon.
Yeah.
So could you sit down with a Glencairn of 80 proof?
Absolutely.
No, no, I don't think you could enjoy it.
You really drink it to drink it.
It'd be like tea.
Yes, it would be.
I mean, it would be hard tea.
And would be like what is going on.
We I'm ready for another one.
You know, you'd have to fill up a glass of iced tea with because we say this, the next
one we're going to have is a little bit lower proof.
And we'll see what we think of it.
Right.
Like a two week.
Oh, yeah.
We'll have a big gulp.
But you know what?
I think that's where we're dismissing what the bourbons mean to people.
I don't mean us being snobs and thinking, oh, high proof is all that matters.
But there are people that there are people that want to to to to enjoy a bourbon, you
know, and there's nothing wrong with enjoying a 90 proof bourbon.
Well, I think you just got to be prepared for like if if if we came up here like I think
Eagle Rare is 90 proof.
Oh, my God.
We need to dump that.
So but look, but still, I go back to the same thing.
If I'm going to buy a bourbon, I'm going to go buy the higher proof ones.
It is available if whatever.
Yeah.
If it's not unless it comes in a recommendation by someone.
If yeah.
If one of our bourbon guys goes, you need to try this.
Well, that's what I'm driving at.
So you're someone comes to you and you pose those questions and they're like, I usually
drink like bourbon and soda, bourbon and water.
OK, great.
And what proof do I get?
I usually get this proof.
OK, great.
So here's what I would recommend.
I would recommend that you get and pick out whatever bourbon you want to make a recommendation
to.
Let's just say it's one hundred and twenty proof and it's a bourbon, but it's going to
be too strong for him.
You say, I recommend you get that bourbon and to put a couple ice cubes in it, a splash
of water and that'd be perfect for you.
I mean, I guess that's what my recommendation would be.
Right.
In other words, you're still encouraging them to go higher proof.
Yeah, it's absolutely.
And the reasoning would be that, you know, put the control of diluting the bourbon in
your own hands.
Why would you want to leave that?
You know, I guess the professionals.
Well, yeah, it's kind of like 1845 distillery.
You know, Bob was talking about making a hundred proof bourbon.
And I'm just like, my conversation was I don't think you should.
Right.
I think that from a sales perspective, I think that they would yield a higher profit by dumbing
it down to a hundred proof.
So selfishly, they could probably make 20.
They can probably extend their volume of inventory 20 percent ish by making it a hundred proof.
But they do that.
They they make hundred proof.
They make all their stuff on your proof, unless it's cast strength or single barrel.
He was talking about the specific one that was out right now.
The last time we were there, the weeded bourbon that was that came out, he was talking about
making that weeded bourbon down to a hundred proof.
Well, he was talking also about bottled and bond and he was talking about labeling and
having to call it bottled and bond.
And I think bottled and bonds a gimmick.
Well that's well there's certain rules around it, right?
It's a gimmick.
It's a gimmick now.
So the rules of bottle of bar for those dudes like us listeners out there that don't know,
Jeff, go.
It's bonded.
It's a hundred proof.
It's a it's a hundred proof bourbon.
Number one.
It's got to be aged for four years.
It's in a bonded Rick house, right?
So all the product is from the same year and same distillery bonded Rick house just means
it's in their Rick house.
Like whoever's distilling it, it's in their Rick house, but they got it to be bonded by
the government.
And it doesn't really mean anything.
Well, I think I think the it needs to be from one distiller.
One season.
Right.
It's a distinction, which is I think pretty common is right.
I don't think so.
I think they blend stuff all the time.
Oh, really?
Yeah.
All right.
Unless it's a single barrel.
The liquor must be the product of one distillation season.
Correct.
Right.
One distiller and one distillery.
It must be aged in a federally bonded warehouse under U.S. government supervision for at least
four years.
U.S. government supervision.
I call bullshit on that.
At a hundred proof, 50 percent alcohol by volume.
So literally a representative shows up and goes, OK, I'm with the U.S. government.
I'm going to make sure I'll rubber stamp this.
Just remember, this is from way back in the Prohibition.
Right.
When there was no controls on bourbon and they were selling rot gut.
I totally get it.
The government says we need to put controls on this because you're not getting what you
pay for.
I totally get it.
I'm talking about today.
And there's like from my side in it.
Today it is not.
It is kind of a gimmicky thing.
It's gimmicky.
That's what I mean.
But there is some I think there is some usefulness for it because of the same distillate season.
Yeah.
Some unique.
I agree with that.
There's some uniqueness to it there.
I agree with that.
But all the other stuff.
But this the stag stuff, it's it's it's it's got a it's got a bitter woody taste to it.
Like like the it.
Yeah.
It's like when I'm done with it and I'm it's got a woody taste.
It almost tastes like I've got a stave a wooden stave like I'm tasting that like a woodchip
stuck in your uvula.
Wow.
That's you put it where where did you put the stave?
No.
Hold on.
I'm still confused about where your vulva is or whatever you call it.
He stuck it in his vulva.
He said.
No.
So the nose on this is amazing.
Yeah.
Oh yeah.
It's amazing.
That's good.
So let's give it a rating.
I would I'm going to go with seven seven point eight.
I want to give it an eight.
I think it ranks up there with some of the Elijah Craig barrel proofs.
Yeah.
I think I agree with that.
I'm thinking that bitter taste brings it to a seven.
I don't I don't have a bitter taste.
I have a little sweetness up front.
Yep.
Definitely sweetness up front.
It's fantastic.
The more I drink it, the better it gets.
It's good.
But the tail end of it, it leaves a residual of like literally like you know what it tastes
like, you know, a lollipop, not a lollipop, a popsicle.
And you got the wood stick left and you're like it's in your mouth.
Like chewing on it.
And you're just like, you know, you don't give up because you're probably doing something
and you're out somewhere.
Splinters in your gum.
No, no, no.
So it's that taste of wood that's in your mouth after you know, that's that's what this
kind of reminds me of.
How old is this?
I don't get it.
Do we know the ages on this?
I don't I don't taste that at all.
Yeah.
Bring up the stags again.
I want to see the description of the stags.
I want to see how how old this is.
It may be on the bottle as well.
I don't know.
Yeah, he's looking.
He's got young eyes, so he should be able to see it.
But it looks like he's strong.
Well, these bottles have ridiculous Pico font.
I know.
Is this is this the Stag Junior?
No, no, it used to be called Junior.
Go ahead and pull it up again.
The new bottles are just called Stag.
They got away with the junior.
There it is.
All right.
So let's see here.
Best.
It got all sorts of awards.
The tasty notes, rich, sweet, chocolate, brown sugar flavors mingled with perfect balance
of the bold, rye spiciness.
Valid finish lingers with hints of cherries, cloves and smokiness.
All right.
Smokiness.
That's a smokiness.
I like smokiness.
I like the smoke.
It doesn't say the age.
It does not.
Is the Billy the Billy fires an iceberg?
I don't think so.
Anyway.
All right.
Oh, somebody's guessing nine plus years.
But this is just a this is just this is somebody's comment.
So I don't know someone someone on Reddit.
Right.
I don't know if that has any any credibility, but that's all right.
All right.
So we it's good.
It's good.
Yeah.
I recommend that if you can find it, we got lucky.
Yeah.
Why is it so hard to find?
You know, how much was this bottle?
About $170.
Interesting.
Yeah, this was really hard to find and we got lucky.
We got lucky.
Yeah.
Walked into total wine and our was who called you out?
It was Kevin.
Kevin.
He didn't call.
I just I was in there.
You were in there.
And Kevin was like, hey, he goes, hey, hey, man, you want to stay?
Follow me.
Follow me to the dark room.
Walk this way.
So anyway, we got lucky and got it.
And because I've never seen it on any shelf anywhere.
It's great.
What is the bottle?
It's got like elk antlers.
Show me the well, stag is what is it?
This is is you sure this isn't Stag Junior?
It is not Stag.
It's not Stag Junior.
So it's a rack.
It's a rack of antlers.
I'm assuming I'm assuming deer.
Is it deer?
Is it elk?
I have no idea.
Well, they removed the junior part.
It's just called Stag now.
Gotcha.
They used to be called Stag Junior.
Now it's called Stag.
Carol proof 133.
All right.
So each barrels can be different.
So ours is 133.
The guy who reviewed it, his is 138.
So we got shorted 128.
They picture right there?
No, on the review.
I got you.
So we got shorted.
Oh, no, it's good.
How they recommend if you see the bottle of the stag single barrel, the 133 plus 130 proof
plus 130 plus proof.
Yeah, I recommend you hand me some of the glass.
I think you might be done.
Maybe that's why you're struggling right now.
I had like not enough to eat, I guess.
I don't know.
You had your corn dogs.
You had plenty to eat.
Good Lord.
There's a couple more down there you can have.
I don't want any more.
Choked down.
I literally choked down those cornbread.
So the wife had made some corn muffins and she was like, you know, I'm going to make
some corn muffins and I'm going to put some wieners in the middle of them.
They look like corn dogs.
Bratwurst.
Yeah, they're apple chicken bratwurst.
Oh, apple.
Yeah, that's not the same thing.
When they were fresh, they were a lot better.
They were moist.
Yeah, they were moist.
But the thing is, is that you take a bite into one since you weren't able like, you
know, the softer hot dogs, you can take a bite out of it.
But with these, it's got the lining of the bratwurst.
So you made a commitment.
Once you take a bite, you literally have to eat the whole fucking thing.
Well, and it lined the roof of your mouth.
So it was like, well, the cornbread part sucked every ounce of moisture out of the mouth.
When it was fresh, it wasn't like that.
What do you expect?
You vacuum sealed it.
I mean, that's going to pull everything out of it.
Compressed it and then we reheated it.
I was salvaging the moisture that was in there.
It didn't evaporate.
Well, and it tasted fine.
It was just dry.
I think it was an experiment too, right?
You were trying to see if it was going to recover from that.
There's a lot more of them.
You have like 40 pounds of that stuff.
I've got, well, I've probably got another, I got like four packages of two.
So I'm going to end up giving them to the dog as little treats.
Oh boy.
I think I put that in there.
I'm going to choke.
He's like, this is dry.
Speaking of dogs.
So I'm working in my corner, right?
I work from home.
Oh boy.
Yes.
And is there another soft serve story?
Because I don't know if I can know.
No, no, that was awful.
That was awful.
And I'm just hearing something from the living room.
And I'm just like, oh shit, let me get up and go see.
And there's the puppy on the couch whipping out all the feathers from a cushion.
A sofa cushion?
Yes.
No, no, the cushion that goes on the cushion.
I mean, on the sofa.
So it wasn't like a sofa cushion, but it was like the, what do you call it?
The accent pillow.
Oh, the accent pillow.
So you have a goose down pro pillow?
Oh yeah.
And it's just, there's feathers everywhere.
And I'm just like, and of course, you know, I come out.
I come around the corner and it's like, she's like, right.
And she's like, and she slinks away totally.
And I had to catch her because I'm so pissed off.
I was like, you know, she, I'm chasing her all over the house and she won't, you know,
won't come to me.
Get your gun out.
Finally.
No, I finally grabbed her and I threw her outside and I put the doggy door down and
she was just like, how far did you launch her?
Devastated.
Oh no.
I didn't launch her outside.
I didn't throw her.
Shot put.
Then I dropped the, then I dropped the doggy door.
Right.
And she immediately like, you know, tried to go in, come back in.
Head button it.
Oh yeah.
Head button it and clawing and, and barking.
And then I stood by the window and just stared at her and she like, didn't know I was there
for a while.
And then she, we made eye contact and she was like, and she like slinked away and like
started barking at me.
Like I'm like some crazy person or something.
Right.
Oh, that dog.
I'm like, where?
That's why you don't get puppies.
I, she tearing up our house, man.
It, I, I just said something new.
She didn't do this when you first got her.
Well, no, she's, I mean, she's torn up a couple of things, but I mean, I don't know.
I mean, I get the whole, when you're training a dog, I get the give it a treat when it's
doing a good thing.
How do you give it a treat to not do a bad thing?
You know what I mean?
You got to catch it.
I'm not, I'm not the dog with you here.
So the only way you can do it is you got to catch them doing it.
And when they're doing it, you, you got to have a consistent, that's why you make fun
of me.
But I look, I'm not the dog whisperer either, but I have watched like a ton of his shows
and he's like consistent with whatever authority he's dropping on them.
So if he doesn't want a dog, like in the kitchen, for example, he uses one word and one word
only out, right?
You know, an out kitchen.
Yeah.
You know, you're supposed to reward them.
So, so if you say out and then they leave, you're like, good girl.
And you give them a treat.
No, you, it's supposed to, I guess originally it is to do that, but you know, my point is
it's consistency.
So you're asking the question, how do you get them?
How do you start training them to, to not do certain things?
Because dogs are, they're, they are driven by treats.
Yup.
You're supposed to train with treats.
Yeah.
So when you say out, maybe I'll give them a little tiny look, a little kibble be, I
don't even know exactly, but it's a super small one.
That's it.
And when they go in the kitchen, you like, no out.
And when they get out, you like here and then you put, they, they could test you.
So I don't know, but I'm just, I don't know.
I don't have a problem with it because when the dogs come in, you know, I didn't like
Braco, for example, I've never hit him.
I mean, I've chased after him.
I wanted to be fast.
So he's really fast.
But when he, when he goes in the kitchen, I don't want him in there.
I go, you know, that is my, my thing.
And when it's to a point now, anytime I go that little noise, like the dog whisper makes,
he takes out all the dogs, stop whatever it is they're doing.
Right.
And they assess what's going on.
Right.
And they're like, what am I doing that I need to stop doing?
You know, cause it's a uniform thing.
And then I usually direct them after that and I'd like out, you know, and they'll, they'll
usually do it now.
Braco sometimes he's like, yeah, dad, you say it all the time, but you just got to reiterate
and they do it again and again.
So I don't know.
And then you throw like meat on the ground in the kitchen.
No, well, to test them.
Right.
Well, and they, and they don't get it until I tell them to get it.
And that's, and that's perfect.
It's not, it may be a little bit torturous.
I don't know.
But what it does is it, uh, it's just like, Hey man, look, they'll get that when I tell
them to get it and he'll sit there and wait patiently.
And then sometimes I don't like it when he stares at me waiting too long.
So I'm like, dude, go outside.
Cause he's like, he's just like, dude, I know you're going to throw me part of that apple.
Like every time I grab an apple, I usually give it to him half of it.
Like the core.
Uh, yeah.
And he eats the core of the apple.
Huh?
I guess doesn't that cyanide on the seeds?
I don't have any of them.
Yeah.
I mean, you're trying to kill your dog.
Whatever.
I don't give the dog like a fucking bushel of seeds.
I give them an apple.
Have you ever bitten into a apple seed?
No, I have.
Did it hurt?
It's a little bitter.
It's better.
Yeah.
It's cyanide.
Oh, is that what it is?
The cyanide is really bitter.
Yeah.
So dogs eating odd things is not uncommon.
They've been around the household for many dogs, their mouth and their noses are their
universes as they are driven by curiosity to put things in their mouth.
They will.
Okay.
So about apple cores, apple seeds, uh, contain a compound called amygdalin.
Uh, when, when chewed or digested is converted to a hydrogen cyanide.
Amy G.
Daly.
Amy G.
Daly.
Amy G.
So while cyanide is toxic in general is not considered a problem at the level in which
tiny amount in apple seeds.
So you eat 400 apples a day and you give each core to the dog.
That's 200.
It says the amount of toxicity required is the equates to about 200 apples.
So you, but you eat 400, right?
Yeah.
So I bet if you, I bet if you threw down 200 apple cores down there, how many do you think
they could get through?
Get once.
You can't do it at once.
Just.
All right.
I just made apple pie.
Here's a box of apple cores.
Dogs, let's go.
I don't think that's a big deal.
They wouldn't get anywhere near 200, but I bet they get down 10.
That's gross.
Or more.
Well, I find that your dogs appreciate consistency.
I'm sure you know, and it's to the point where I don't have to yell a command.
At the dogs.
Get out, get out.
You don't have to do any of that.
I just make a noise.
No, you just say out.
Right.
They, they don't, if you, by you yelling at it, doesn't do anything except create that
tension.
Right.
You know, you're not there to create tension.
You want to make a command, just like get out, sit down.
You see, and I get, I get all that.
My struggle is what's, does your crack horse still listen to you?
Crack horror.
What?
Oh, the little one.
The little one that looks like a crack.
Oh, the walking cemetery.
That is the shattish.
That cemetery.
That's the shattish thing ever.
For Ginger, she's like 15, 16 years old.
She is a multi-poop and she's got like two eyes.
She's completely.
She's completely a pet cemetery.
She's freaking can't hear, can't see.
You know, she kind of, I walk around the corner and she's staring like at a pot plant or the
pot of, you know, she's like staring at something, you know, and totally out of it.
Yeah.
Just an inanimate object.
She's looking at it like it's the fucking TV or something.
And I was like, what the fuck is she doing?
I eat, I eat crack horror.
Yeah.
Like, like she's looking out the window or something, but instead of looking out the
window, she's staring into the abyss of a plant.
You know?
Right.
Well, that's so sad.
She's also, she's 16.
How old is that in human?
You know, that's a shit load.
Yeah.
I can't do that math.
That's a one.
Really?
Look at you, man.
102, I think 16 times seven.
What is that?
112, 112, 112 years old.
That's that's elderly abuse.
Well, what upsets me is, is what I come over is ginger will come out.
I try to pet her, but Bronco, he's like, you need to pet me.
And it's like a tornado and and ginger gets caught up in all of that.
She gets pounded on.
Yeah.
Just getting knocked on her ass.
And she's like, fuck it.
But how does a how does a hundred and sixteen year old dog survive that?
I mean, you hear like crack, snack, snap, you know, crack, fall apart.
Well, I'll tell you what, though, she does survive and she's not she's not passive either.
I mean, she actually she's more a lot more passive nowadays, but she can stand up for
herself.
If she gets mad at something, she'll let you know.
Like the pot part.
She gets mad at the pot.
She'll get mad at Bronco and Nari, the other dog.
Yeah.
You know, like tell them what the fuck's going on.
Get the fuck off me.
They listen to her.
Yeah, they do.
Get up.
All right.
Because when the old great lady's mad, when she starts to make those noises and I know
what they sound like, I get up immediately.
So she knows that.
So when she starts making her noise, I get up immediately and she's like, see, right.
You would monitor the other dog and she does.
She like stops and she's like, see, she does know what she's doing.
She's a smart little shit.
Yeah, God is painful, though.
She just kind of bounces around because I don't think she can bend her legs anymore.
Her legs are just it's no disrespect, but I look away every time I see her.
I'm like, oh, I can't I can't watch this.
I can't watch this train wreck.
She can still make it out the doggy door and everything.
She does.
She can.
And you know, I'm a piece of shit because I keep telling myself I need to make a little
step for her to step into that and I never do it.
You know, it's like, oh, I need to do that this weekend.
And then when it comes time there, we're off to the gallifanting around distilleries and
doing this and that.
Let's do this.
Let's do that.
And meanwhile, the dogs walking into the wall right now.
No, she could do it, man.
It may be good for her.
You know, I actually I get up every now and then.
There's a poodle doodle out in front of the dog door or there's a little urine patch.
We keep a lot of dog mats right by the dog door because she can't get out the dog door.
Well, it's argumentative because I'm not there.
I can't see it.
But my daughter's dog has a habit of being lazy.
At least she's not pooping or peeing upstairs.
But what she'll do, she'll come downstairs and she'll be like, I ain't going outside
and she'll just it's not drop trial right where she's at.
That's not cool.
Yeah.
I'm going to prove it.
You know, set up a camera right there on the dog.
The issue I'm having is that went on Tuesdays and Fridays when the sprinkler systems run
right early morning and then they get ready to they wake up and they're ready to go pee
and wake them up.
No, they just they pee every morning.
Right.
It's a normal thing.
But they poke their head out the doggy door and they're like, oh, it's wet.
I don't want wet on my cute.
Exactly.
And so they pee.
The puppy peed on the carpet.
I was like, no, we already solved that problem.
Well, why don't you turn the sprinklers on earlier?
What time does it go on?
Well, like, you know, from like three to six.
I don't know.
Yeah, the monoclubs are really early like that.
Yeah.
I think monoclubs are three to four.
Three hours?
Well, it runs through three different cycles.
You're supposed to you're supposed to let it soak in and then do another one and let
it soak in, do another one.
Yeah, it takes a long time.
Yeah, it runs for 18 hours.
All right.
I don't know about dudes like us out there that and I get about three and a half feet
of water per square inch full blown irrigation system in my front and back.
Granted, two months ago, the irrigation line exploded and water came out under Austin came
home and was like, Dad, there's water running down the front stairs.
I'm like, oh, great.
I thought inside the house, it was outside.
But it's like when you open up the front door.
Oh, I mean, water was like it was coming out in like you had a broken sprinkler head.
Oh, it's not a broken sprinkler head because I had a line.
The line.
It's the line.
It's a valve.
So that's going to take some research and I'm not looking forward to that.
But even if I didn't do that, my point is, is that I don't ever water my yard ever.
Yeah, I don't ever water my yard.
You have like the we noticed the Congo Bush out in the backyard.
Oh, it's a goat trail.
Yeah.
Yeah, it's it's it's disgusting out there.
And you know, the the don't you have an HOA?
Would you the president?
I'm not the president of HOA.
Did you take a picture of your yard and send yourself a letter?
No.
Well, I mean, the front yard looks fine.
It's the the backyard looks like a goat trail.
But you know, it's all these these these grand thoughts and plans that, oh, I'm going to
be doing this.
I'm going to be doing that.
And so, you know, Tara wants to put some turf back there and we're going to be there.
So we just put shit on the back burner.
And I was going to put some sod back there.
And I'm like, fuck, man, I'm not doing that.
It's hot outside.
You know, you know, what am I going to do it?
You know, so it got to seventy five.
I mean, there's a lot of stuff.
There's a lot of moving parts.
We got three fucking dogs in the house.
And it's just like if I start tilling back there, it's going to be a mud fest.
Right.
And then I got to it's just and I don't mind doing the work.
The work's not the problem.
The problem is I have these three dogs to get a man and during that time because they
can't go outside during that process.
Right.
So what is it going to be?
Yeah, the kids walk them constantly.
They go.
Whatever, dude.
That is not happening.
You have built in dog walkers.
I can't get those motherfuckers to empty the garbage.
You know, do me a favor.
Why don't you fucking pick up a spoon and wash it or something?
You know, I purposely bought a lot of dudes like us do this out there, but I purposely
bought a bunch of black paper plates, paper bowls and plastics to silverware.
So they can throw the shit away.
So you can go right in the garbage can, you know, and I went to totally earth first.
I don't give a fuck about earth first.
Styrofoam.
Yeah, that's more shit to burn.
They just leave them around.
They only get thrown away.
You know, it's just they're getting better and better.
It's just you know, I complain, you know, but it's kind of like this.
I mean, I was talking to Austin about the he just brought up a fact about, you know,
he was going to do it.
But he said, hey, you know, I was invited.
I could go to college in a different state with some of my friends that are going to
go there.
And I was like, well, if you want to move, that's one thing I would recommend that you
stay here and finish your college and focus on school, because that's the prime directive
right now.
You know, I don't think you're you know, but at the end of the day, it's his life.
He can do whatever the fuck he wants.
He's an adult now.
Yeah, yeah.
You can do whatever he wants.
But and that's kind of what I'm getting at.
I'm kind of selfish about this because, you know, you know, some of the kids, your kids
get an opportunity to leave state, they go to college.
You know, I might move all back in, you know, and Preston, he's still in college.
It's just like, I want to move out, but I don't.
More and more I want to now, you know, once they move out, it's glorious.
You're like, this is nice because when they come back, it's an adjustment back.
Right.
You get used to being by yourself.
It's like, this is great.
Right.
And then the next thing you know, they're back.
It's different.
You can unload the dishwasher naked.
You can.
And you can load the dishwasher naked.
You can.
And you can heat up your food in the microwave.
I don't like to think about my bourbon glasses being washed by Jeff naked.
It's usually Julie.
I don't even.
That's unacceptable.
Naked adults touching our glasses, I think is what we're struggling with.
I don't cram my junk down into the Glencairn.
That's not even what we said.
That's what I was hinting at.
Now you just made it worse.
Yeah, you did.
Just imagine it all down in there, just kind of all smashed in there.
You cram your junk down into the Glencairn.
How could you get your nuts?
That's just like putting it in a cock ring.
You have to really work it.
Yeah, you have to kind of work at the sides.
You work it.
Yeah, but what if you broke the Glencairn glass and now you've got a ball of stuff.
I'm just trying to understand this.
You're standing in the kitchen working your junk into the Glencairn.
How long does that take?
Oh, let's move on.
Yeah, let's move on.
I'm not going to have a nice list.
So the kids are, you know, we're not, I'm not an empty nester.
You're an empty nester and I'm super happy.
And I can't, I'd love to be an empty nester, but it comes with a lot of different things.
I mean, like, meaning that I travel and Tara, yeah, some dudes, I guess may have wives out
there that have a gorophobia.
I don't know.
Maybe they do.
Maybe they don't.
But it's kind of a benefit that there's someone at the house to.
Right.
Meaning you're able to go places because she's not alone.
Correct.
She has a sister right across the street.
That's true.
Oh gosh, that's very true.
Yeah.
But there's just, you know, my job requires me to travel.
Yeah, but that's what you don't want your kids with you the rest of your life because.
I do not.
I want them to be successful and happy and they're not going to be successful and happy
living in the house.
They really are because they want their individualism.
You know, I mean that poor Emily, she's going through that right now.
She's absolutely fucking miserable being at the house, living in there.
Yeah.
Usually that takes care of itself like that.
Well, she's like that.
She's working on it.
They become, they become grown ass adults and they want their space and they want their
own.
They want to run their house the way they want to.
Correct.
They want to be taken care of or there's something and it takes care of itself.
But sometimes it doesn't.
And they're like totally fine being taken care of and not having responsibilities or
whatever.
Right.
And I'm not saying that's your kids, but I mean that's, that's, that's the, that's the
story that, that, I don't know.
They live in there, but I don't mind the space.
As long as they get waited on, if they participated in some of the, the, the chores, if they took
care of shit, you know, it's just like I spent X amount of dollars a month having my yard
done.
You know, I mean, it's, I mean, for what I spend a month, I could buy a lawnmower and
a, a weed eater and do it all myself.
Right.
You know, but firstly, I'm not doing that.
I'm not fucking going out there and cut my grass.
I can't stand the heat, let alone out there doing shit and then fuck all that.
That's crazy.
He'd be out there in his little crocs and black knee socks and shorts.
Well that's part of the problem.
You're overheating because of those socks.
No, I wouldn't be doing it period.
So that's just all there is.
In fact, that's why I want to cultivate my backyard.
You know, again, when the kids move out, you know, the dogs are going to disappear.
Ginger's on her tail and out.
Norrie's not mine.
Ginger may last another 20 years.
Probably with my luck.
The cat's gone now.
Ginger's on the fence.
Bronco belongs to Preston.
So when Preston comes back, he may go with him on a night.
I don't know yet.
But Norrie's gone.
So my point driving at is that I won't have to worry about the backyard.
You know, I'm hoping to actually extend my house out a little bit.
Like the patio, I'm going to push out a little bit more.
And I'll build a deck up top and I'm going to push that bedroom.
I'm going to enclose the top and push it out a little bit more.
So sounds like an ambitious project.
It is.
It's going to happen.
It's basically, you know where the garage is at?
Yeah.
The garage is basically it's going to come straight into the it's going to be one rectangle.
Right now it's L shaped.
Backyard though.
I don't care.
All right.
I don't care.
I mean, are you going to get contractors for that?
Are you going to try to do it yourself or?
I'm going to get subcontractors to do it.
OK.
Yeah.
So I'll have someone go out there and pour the concrete and I'll have someone go out
there and do some framing and build the roof up a little bit and extend it out.
And once that's done, then I can kind of slow it down a little bit.
But I'm not going to.
I'm going balls to the wall once it goes on.
So nice.
I have a friend who flips houses and I always I asked him like, what do you what do you
do to make it more marketable or do you only buy houses that are marketable like as is?
He's like, oh, no, no, no.
I mean, he he'll they'll size it up and they'll go in.
He's another bedroom.
Right.
Like like no big deal.
They buy it for you know, they get a good deal on it and then they look at the house
and they're like, it needs another.
You know, if they had one more bath and one more bedroom, it would it would it would hit
the sweet spot in terms of being able to turn quickly.
Right.
And they and they have these crews that they know.
Right.
And they come in and bam, bam, bam, bam, bam.
And they do it.
And you know, it might take a couple of months.
And then they, you know, put it right back on the market and bam, they make 100 grand.
Yeah.
I mean, what the fuck?
It takes money to make money, though, man.
I get it.
But you take loans out.
That's what people do.
There's a there's a system to take loans.
There's a system where you to take a loan out.
But the thing is, is that you you do I don't know all the magic to it, but there's a window
of opportunity.
So you have like 90 days or 100.
So you have like 90 days and you don't have to move any money, technically.
That's right.
So if you basically never use your money.
So yeah, so you banks money, you basically you get the hypothetical loan and then you
do all the work and there's a there's a clock ticking.
So you want to get everything done.
I've already got a master plan if I want to start flipping houses.
And I'll tell the secrets to those people out there right now.
The dudes like us listeners, if you want to make profitable money flipping houses, you
got to expand the square footage of the house.
Period.
You know, if you've got a well, depending on like there's a lot of homes out there that
are like 1800 square feet.
You're talking about the homes that I'm talking about picking a home, picking up, picking
a house in a community.
And you got to cherry pick.
You got to look for the correct floor plan because the community yields a certain price
per square footage.
Right.
So what you want to do is you want to increase the square footage of that house.
You purchase the pass at this cost per square footage.
You increase the square footage by 20 percent.
So what that usually means is you buy like an L shaped house and then you make it a rectangle.
And that new rectangle is now the master bedroom.
This is a template.
Right.
This is a standardized template.
No, I hear you.
And because most of the houses that were built in the 60s, 70s, 80s, 90s, whatever, they
don't have a huge fantastical master bedroom.
Right.
They got a room and sometimes a bathroom.
So what you do is you make a huge ass, bad ass master bath bedroom with a master bathroom
and a large walk in closet and a sitting room.
Whatever.
Just but that, you know, with you, with the windows in the front, we call those not faulted,
those bay windows, the windows downstairs.
Well, I mean, you got to think.
I'm talking about square footage.
I'm talking about adding square footage to the house.
You add a bathroom, you add a master bedroom, and that's basically it.
Right.
There is a formula.
That's it.
Yeah, there's but you don't want to add all the bay windows because the concept is I mean,
if it's conducive, it is and if you got to replace the windows anyways, yeah, sure.
No, it's really just add a room and a bathroom.
Yeah, you just add you just add that because that's going to sell all by itself.
Now you've increased the value of that house by 20 percent because you've added 20 percent
of the square footage and then you upgrade everything.
Now mind you, when I say upgrade, you're replacing like receptacles.
You're taking surface mount fixtures and putting recessed can lights.
Right.
And that's that's really little things like that.
Little things that take like they're nothing to do.
Couple grand.
Oh, yeah.
You know, whatever.
Sometimes you got to run some new wire up there, but it's really, really, really easy,
especially for someone that knows what they're doing.
Exactly.
Well, that's the thing.
You build these partnerships with with teams, subcontracting teams, and they just that's
their thing.
And they knock this shit out.
And, you know, it's interesting because, you know, whenever people are selling their houses,
they say, you know, don't, you know, don't invest too much into it.
You're not going to get that out.
You know what I mean?
Right.
But that's in the context of people selling their own house.
Like don't don't go through all the work to do that because you're not going to get it
back.
But then again, when you when you hear the stories, what you just told in the stories
about people flipping houses and they're spending 50 grand or 20 grand and they're turning around
and selling it for one hundred and forty thousand dollars more than what they bought it for.
No.
Well, I mean, fucking no brainer.
Yeah, that is a no brainer.
But there's one of the biggest mistakes that they make is going in blind.
First of all, thinking like you're a weekend warrior.
You can knock it out because, oh, no, it's you have to have six months.
You have to know what you're doing.
There's there's code compliance.
You got it.
You got to dig in deep to the where you're at, you know, because if you do something
to the house, you mean like, like screw it up.
If you do something, if you upgrade a section of the house, code compliance may go in there
and be like, hey, good job.
Not do the rest of it.
Right.
Yeah.
You just you just changed the back windows of that area.
You just added to double paint glasses insulated.
But aren't you aren't you expecting your your your your subcontracting team to know that
kind of stuff and your and your what do you call it?
The general contractor.
Yes.
And no, no, no, that's the problem.
You're not supposed to have a general contractor to make money.
You need to be the general contractor.
That's right.
Because if you're paying a general contractor, you're automatically losing a lot of money,
losing there's your 20 percent right there.
Boom, gone.
Overhead profit.
Now, that's a good point.
So you want to be your own general contractor and just subcontract everything.
But you still got to have you got to have the people out there to do it.
But you got to know what you want.
So when you're going out there and shopping for different houses, you got to do your research.
And that's you got to know what type of house to get.
And you got to walk in there and you got to say, well, if I look at a plug and I noticed
that that plug doesn't have a ground and it just has the two prongs.
Yeah, I'm not buying that house.
So you need to pull up all of your construction experience and the superior intellect that
Jeff and I have.
Correct.
Why have we not?
Why have we not just done one just one flip house to see how it goes?
Risk risk adverse.
Yeah.
Well, yeah, doesn't flip.
What happens?
Okay.
Well, we get we get gunned down by it.
I think it's risk.
There's people out there who are willing to roll the dice and risk it.
What's the what's the worst case scenario?
Well, you buy a house for two hundred thousand dollars.
Okay.
We're on the hook for two hundred thousand dollars plus whatever body we have.
So until it sells.
So what about what about I mean, what are the odds that you can't sell it for exactly
what you bought it for and just not make a penny and be like, fuck, we spent a lot of
time on this and blah, blah, blah.
So that's where.
And so we invested.
OK, well, that's a we invested 10 or 15 thousand dollars in it, but we didn't make any.
Well, that's where you do your your math up front.
You do the research up front.
So you you find out what the what that what the it's like like this community we live
in now.
The houses go for X amount of dollars.
Right.
Or they're within a range.
Sure.
So you make sure that you buy your house at the low end of that range.
Period.
And if you can't buy that house at the price that you want to do it, leave it alone.
Now is not a good time to be flipping houses.
I'm thinking, no, no, with the rates, not not here, not around here, but there's always
areas in the metroplex and around the country or whatever where it is.
Look, I think you have to hit a niche to where it's an affordable house for especially like
the young folks.
Right.
You don't want to get into like six, seven, eight hundred thousand dollar homes right
now.
You need to look at the hundred and fifty to two hundred thousand dollars homes.
OK.
What they consider starter homes at this point.
OK.
So you buy it for one twenty.
You put thirty five thousand into it to make it, you know, something.
And then you sell it for two ten.
Boom.
I'm not a mathlete.
I didn't I didn't.
I'm not a mathlete, but you just made 40 grand.
You say thirty five grand.
Well, he did.
That seems to be fair.
I think it's a little high.
So you buy it for one twenty, you put thirty five into it.
What is that one fifty five?
You sell it for two ten.
Bam.
I mean, that just bought us upgraded mics, a new soundboard that bought us like you're
not going to like us t shirts.
I'm not going to argue with you.
If we had an opportunity, I would absolutely do it.
I mean, I love doing construction.
I the only reason I got out of construction was because the wife was pressuring me to
get something stable that I was going to paycheck.
I hear you.
You know, and that that's just it.
When you are living a contractor's lifestyle like that, you know, it's gig to gig.
It is gig to gig.
But if you're if you're I mean, it's hard work.
Let's not forget that.
It's hard work.
Back then you were carrying like what?
Four thousand pounds of cheap wall.
What does it it's nonstop.
It's just a board drywall.
It's nonstop.
It's it's as you you develop a core strength.
I mean, back then, oh, my gosh.
Oh, man.
I was I was super strong.
It's like, man.
I mean, I was so strong.
I kind of shocked myself on some of the shit I could do.
Yeah.
You know, it's like people would like we went to a family function.
Excuse me.
And they were all arm wrestling.
And I refused arm wrestle because you like tear somebody's arm off because I know I'd
embarrass the shit out of them.
Even now.
Oh, no.
I thought that ship is sailed.
I was helping you with your beer.
Oh, yeah.
I couldn't even pick it.
He dropped just stapling.
Yeah.
He was like, oh, God, it's so cold.
I would love this.
I was like, let me help you.
I was like, Paul, I can't even.
I can't lift it.
I can't lift it to my left.
I can't even pick my penis up to go to the bathroom.
Oh, really, really.
But and I did not help you with that.
I can promise you.
Oh, yeah.
Well, anyways, but the point is, is that let's say we were to change gears and like
totally drop our jobs and go do this.
Let's do it.
I would do it.
You wouldn't.
You have a good job right now and you're on a good trajectory.
You know, I should say today it's about being happy and I was sincerely happy doing construction
because I know tons about it and I'm good at it.
And you can still do it on the side, you know, but no, there's I can't do the current job
that I know and do that on the side.
Consuming.
There's there's a lot.
This job requires a lot of bandwidth for me.
But you know, I would I would love to be able to let's say if I were to get fired or let
go or economy were changed, whatever.
And I wasn't working there.
Yes, I would absolutely.
I mean, that's the first thing I do because I'm you can go to and that's beautiful for
you because you can slide right back into that.
And construction is always there.
Residential and commercial.
That stuff's always there.
And not like not like not like my job or your and your job.
And construction is construction.
We're an IT, right?
I mean, it's just it's just not like that.
I don't know.
I mean, it's tough for for some folks out there, you know, not having a or I should
say like this to have a job that's unaffected by recession.
That's recession proof is is so I call it.
I call it two things.
There are some out there if you can.
There are.
I call it two things.
There's recession, recession resistant zookeeper, right?
Zookeeper is recession proof.
Yeah, 100 percent.
I call it recession resistant and recession proof to two categories that, you know, one
recession resistant is everybody needs it, you know, but they are.
They could probably scale back a little bit, maybe not totally.
Recession proof is got to have it to run a business.
Sorry.
I think like nurses and stuff, I think a recession proof.
You would think so.
I would hope.
But people just choose not to be sick in a recession, don't they?
Yeah, they just die.
Someone's always going to be sick.
Oh, yeah.
Good point.
Well, fun topics, man.
This bourbon.
Plus, we did a little sample of Dalton before we even started the podcast.
That was a bonus.
Bill Dalton.
Yes.
All right.
It's September 12th.
It's the first half of our podcast tonight.
Fun filled stuff coming on the second half.
Oh, my God.
We're overflowing with topics.
I'm gyrating.
He's got a boner.
Can you show me?
Can you show me the list of topics?
It's out of the piece of paper over there in the green room.
Oh, fantastic.
I can't wait to see it.
Thank you, Mr. Austin.
We'll see you in the second half, guys.
We're going to take a break.
Dudes like us.
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