Evans Dahr.
Single Barrel Castrag, Sean's birthday gift.
This is very, very hot.
It is very hot.
It is, it's a high octane bourbon, but it tastes that.
We've had some other high octanes that...
But it's a deep...
Deep, rich flavor.
Deep?
It's a deep, rich flavor, don't you think?
I think it's good.
Yeah, no, I think it's good too.
But you're right, it is...
You know what?
It's the epitome of people who don't drink anything straight and they go, oh god, oh
god, this is, wow, it's burning my throat.
That's kind of like what you did when you first took a sip.
It is.
When I, the first pull I took, I wasn't quite ready.
Yeah.
And it tingled my throat and I coughed, yeah, like a little sissy.
So...
It tingled your throat.
So we're starting the, well, it's June 29th, it's the tail end of June, and it is a scorcher
out there.
It is.
It's a Dudes Like Us podcast, Sean.
I'm Paul.
And I'm Jeff.
And we are sampling a repeat, what do we call it?
It's a throwback Tuesday on a Thursday.
So this is, we got this over a year ago.
You got this not this birthday, but the birthday prior.
Really?
So this is, your birthday's in...
Yes.
So it's been in the bottle.
I guess I'm drunk now.
So we've had this a year and two months, three months?
So I think it's, well, you know what?
This whole thing that's Heaven's Door, it's, who's the manufacturer of this?
Who's the...
Steller.
Yeah, who wrote that?
Eric Clapton?
No, I don't like him at all.
That's Guns N' Roses.
No.
Knocking on Heaven's Door.
It's a Bob Dylan branded bourbon.
Oh, it sure is.
You're talking about knocking on Heaven's Door.
It says it right on the back.
It says Bob Dylan on the inside of the sticker.
No way.
Look on the back.
Yeah, look back there.
So anyways, we got Heaven's Door.
So my wife bought this and a bottle of Fourgate for my birthday last year.
So we took a couple, obviously we drank two thirds, almost three fifths of the bottle
last year.
Ah, whatever.
Actually it's not.
It's almost half gone now.
So it is 123.9 proof, 61.95% alcohol.
I think it's nine sixteenths gone.
That is nice.
That's real nice.
What's happening?
What does it say on the side?
Does it say the match bill you said?
It does.
It says it is 75% corn.
Made in China.
21% Chinese.
Chinese.
And 4% barley.
What about China Nationalist?
I don't think it says anything about that.
It's good.
I'm curious.
It's good.
I'm curious to taste the next one though because I don't think they're quite as high proof
as this one.
Alright so.
Tennessee by the way.
For those folks that are kind of wondering what Dudes Like Us is about.
This was created because we're a bunch of idiots and people are like wow you guys should
rap your idiotisms and put it in a podcast.
So we just like why won't it come up with a name.
Dudes Like Us was floated and we started doing the podcast.
We started sampling bourbons as part of it as the intro and it stuck.
We got almost 200 bottles ish.
We're kind of fluctuate.
Right.
You know back and forth and so people bias.
Well actually that's not true.
We buy almost all of our bourbons.
Of course we do.
My wife bought this one.
It was just a coincidence but also my wife gifted me something through mashing grape
which is the bourbon of the month for six months.
It was a Christmas gift and it is June which is the sixth month and I received.
I was waiting for my last bottle to show up and I was super excited.
I was like oh man.
It usually was showing up at the tail end of the second week traditionally.
Like clockwork.
Bam it showed up on the 16th.
Boom.
All right.
And it didn't show up and I was like hmm awkward.
So I fired off an email and they're like sorry it'll be there soon and it shows like bitch
give me my bourbon.
Well it showed up and I want to say that they made a mistake and they sent it out as a bonus.
I don't know if that's true but I will tell you that with the previous five bottles I
received my bottle for mashing grape and it came with an envelope that said mashing grape
and it had a basically a little write up of write up exactly what it was all the mash
bill just a really cool factoid sheet.
And they didn't do that on the other one.
They they did that with all of them.
Oh okay.
Except the last one.
I think that there was an error I think there was an error in sending out the last one and
I think they just did an audible and they sent me out a twosome.
So of the six bottles I actually got seven and I got Heaven's Door and they gave me a
double barrel one and I believe and then a bourbon one.
So both.
I think it's I think you got the standard Heaven's Door and then you write a double
oak or something.
And now that one we haven't tried yet.
The double oak.
We haven't tried.
That's the only Heaven's Door we've tried.
So I'm kind of excited about there's you know this Heaven's Door that we have here that
I got from a birthday birthday birthday was the only thing I got.
The single barrel was pretty hot man.
23.9.
Yeah.
It feels it too.
Some of those it feels some get to touch your bourbon yet.
I refilled it but you have a sip of beer and you're like oh my god I'm drunk.
He did.
I watched him do it.
No I just added a little I just floated a little.
You know when you first told me that your wife kind of sprung for that gift I thought
it was a cool gift.
You know the whole bourbon of the more you guys were behind the you know you were behind
this.
I told her to get you an iPhone.
Yeah I told her to get you a new toy.
She she rebutted both of us and got you bourbon instead.
See and I was I was thinking it was a very great idea.
It was a great a great idea.
But I was thinking wow these bourbons are going to arrive idea and they're going to
be they're going to be bourbons we already have.
Or ones that you can easily buy.
That was my they're 80 proof.
That was my right here.
It was not one of them.
I'm so impressed.
Not one of them.
I don't know.
That's when you get so far was that barrel.
The barrel really good.
Yeah we like that the Vanguard or I thought the the salt grass or the yeah.
I don't think I was able to drink that.
I think you do without me.
No no we drank the whole thing.
Well five of the seven bottles you haven't been here.
I know I was going to say.
Oh come on.
No.
So we have one bottle.
It's barrel something barrel.
It looks like a white barrel.
No not that barrel.
Is that the barrel you're talking about.
No that.
Oh OK.
So you're saying I'm talking about the other barrel that the brand is barrel.
Yes that's what I'm saying.
Well look because in all fairness they they they gave me a bottle and yes they designed
the bourbon based on a bottle which was odd and the bottle is shaped like a barrel and
frankly it wasn't very good.
No it was not.
It wasn't good.
I mean the bottles cool but it kind of looks like a Halloween prop.
You know that's the white one.
Yeah it was very white one.
Yeah and now whatever man.
Like I said we've we've acknowledged that we're hit and miss on a lot of these.
Like it doesn't matter whether you got them for your club or we buy them like so they're
we're hit miss.
Oh yeah I'm not I'm not I'm not necessarily you know dogging that you know wow these weren't
all great.
What I'm saying is they were all bourbons that we don't see anywhere.
Like we don't see any of these.
Yeah I think the only one that we saw was the barrel the branded barrel one that we
other ones and you have its door everything else.
I don't think they're unique unique ones.
Yeah.
Yeah which I thought is awesome.
Yeah it was different.
I have them in the collection so I was excited to get them and I got them over at the house
so we will sample those.
Yeah for sure.
Before we bail out of there.
Now I also picked up a 10 year bottle of whiskey pig.
Whistle pig.
Yeah the rye.
Whiskey pig god bless yeah the rye.
And it was actually pretty good.
It was on sale and then it turns out that even on sale it was still more than that they
sell it.
I told them why.
I'm a little disappointed but you know.
Where'd you pick it up?
I don't know.
There was some liquor store next to wherever Tara was getting her haircut which was a whole
different dilemma.
So it turned out so Tara was like hey you know can you.
I had shit to do.
So I mean it was like a work day and she was like hey can you.
I picked her up from work because you go hey can you take me over to get my haircut.
Right.
And I said yeah sure.
And I'm thinking.
You're thinking it's gonna be like your haircut should be done at 15.
Well I knew she wasn't.
No.
No no no.
Well a little bit but I knew she wasn't gonna be finished quick but I didn't know she just
wanted me to drop her off.
So I pull up and she gets out and I'm like huh well there's a liquor store.
Look at that.
Oh so you were gonna hang out for two hours.
I hung out for two and a half hours.
Oh shit.
Outside waiting for.
He drank three bottles.
I went in the liquor store and I'm there forever.
That's the part of the story that he bought one drank the whole bottle then he went in
and got another one.
Well the guys at the liquor store were like are you gonna buy something or what.
You've been up and down these fucking aisles like 15 times.
I was just checking out your bourbon and I was just checking out your tequila.
I was just checking out your vodka.
They're like dude.
And then I take the bottle of Whistlepig because he got it because it says hey try me.
I got a sample of that Whistlepig 10 year rye.
So I go over there and I sample it and I'm like this is really good.
Lots of spice and stone fruit.
Of course it has stone fruit.
That's the only thing he picks up ever.
Every single bourbon has stone fruit.
Drinking tequila with stone fruit.
So I buy the bottle and I go back out to the car and I'm like you know what I'm gonna go
get a beer.
I buy this big old 24 ounce honey kid and I drink it all.
And I drink it all pretty quick too because I was thirsty.
Plus it'll get warm if you don't.
Oh yeah.
No you gotta hammer through that stuff.
I drink it and I'm like fuck I gotta pee.
So I go back in.
So where she's getting her hair cut is like a little suite.
They have probably 20, I don't know 15 or 30 different little suites in there.
All of them are hairstylists or something of that culture.
They rent their little corner out.
Yeah yeah yeah.
Each one of them rents their own little pod.
The whole thing that's what it is.
It's like an ecosystem of a bunch of little.
It just smells like perm chemicals.
A bunch of guys in there like hi what's going on.
Who is that?
No they did not say that, that was.
When you walked in?
Oh yeah.
They all stopped cutting their hair.
Oh they just like stopped and it was like hear a record scratch.
And they're like who is that?
That's like they start playing Stand Alive and he's like walking down.
Oh I was thinking the same thing.
I'm walking down.
Shawn's hair is blowing behind him.
He has no hair to blow behind him.
Oh yeah.
Okay sorry.
His goatee was flowing behind him.
My stomach was just rippling up and down.
And he was like who's the guy with the Heineken?
I went hi guys where's the bathroom?
I'm so drunk.
Is that oil?
I'm going to rub it and get my pasties on.
So I went to the bathroom like four times.
They just kept looking like what's he doing?
Well I mean I went to the bathroom once first.
Four different times?
I don't know what happened.
You went in and out of the place into the bathroom?
Four times.
It's called old age.
Yeah well whatever it was.
I drank that beer and went to the bathroom and then I was like fuck I'm going to the
bathroom again.
When I came back out from the second time I went to the bathroom I was like I'm getting
another beer.
So I went back over there and bought another one.
So after 96 ounces of beer that's when you realize oh my god I have to keep peeing.
So I drank the whole of the beer.
I'm starting to catch on to what the pattern is here.
I haven't eaten and now I'm drunk.
That's technically four beers.
Tara comes out there and I'm acting.
She comes out the door and I'm like this time the clock went past nine.
So after nine the doors automatically lock.
So there's a little punch code on there and so I can't get in.
I'm panicking.
You're peeing on the door?
Well I mean I'm just like this is going to end bad.
Tara just magically starts walking out.
She's like I didn't even know you were here.
And she comes out.
I didn't even say anything.
Hold on you went in there four times and peed four times.
How does she not know you were there?
Well three.
The fourth time was when she was coming out.
She didn't see you walking by?
No I don't even know where those girls are.
There was a big complex.
It was like a gauntlet walking in there.
It was like you go left right.
You have no idea.
I just looked for the sign that said bathroom and I knew where it was at the first time.
I didn't have to look the second time.
It was just a B line straight to the bathroom.
Well my point is that the third time I was done.
The fourth time I was like I got to go and then I go up to the door and it's fucking
locked and I'm like shit.
And then she magically comes out the door and I'm like I go right out.
Here's the key.
And I come back and sit back in the car and I start.
I'm just goofy.
She's like you're drunk.
I was like I had two beers.
Right.
You did.
But they're like the gallon size cans.
The floor board.
I've done that before.
Babe I only had two drinks.
But it was like glug glug glug.
Was that Sean's large cup?
That I don't have anymore?
And then you pop the coke.
A little splash.
Notice how much coke you put in there.
I only had two.
Yeah.
Lots of ice.
So anyways whatever.
So we ended up you know it was one of those things where I was a little toasty.
Well you made the most of an awful situation.
My wife told me hey can you sit out.
She didn't do this.
I know that.
But if she had said hey can you just hang out while I get a haircut.
Out of Ruts Marens.
Oh hell no.
We had two hours.
Two hours.
Well I ended up filling up a gas.
Cleaning the car out.
I mean that was constructive.
Just out the liquor store.
Did a few.
Oh yeah.
Totally perused.
You know.
Learned a little bit more about some of the crown roll.
They have like a really they had a 500 dollar bottle of crown roll there.
29 years old.
Well they age it.
Because it's so cold up there.
Nothing happens to it.
That's why they age it for that long.
I wonder if it's any good.
Well like I said you can age it up there because the weather is cold.
Yeah but 29 years of anything.
I'm skeptical.
They even have older Canadian whiskey than that.
Really?
Oh yeah.
You'll see 48 year.
Good lord.
It's expensive as shit.
Wow.
Well I wonder if it's any good.
I don't subscribe to that.
I don't know.
You know you mentioned Heineken.
And my youngest Steven just got back from Europe.
Oh he got back?
Yeah.
He's back down at school now actually.
And he said that he went over there and he went to a bar.
I don't know what country he was in.
And he got a Heineken.
It may have been like Amsterdam or something like that.
Sure.
Germany.
I don't know.
He got a Heineken.
And they're like why are you drinking Heineken?
The locals were saying that.
They'd be like that's crap beer.
Shit beer.
That's shit beer.
Why are you drinking that?
I enjoy Heineken.
Well that's shit beer.
Over there it is.
Oh in Germany it is.
In Germany.
Yes.
Wherever he was at.
Yeah he's like that's terrible.
Well it's a Dutch beer.
So he's like well what do you recommend?
They're like Budweiser.
Oh shut up.
That's what he said.
He goes I like Budweiser.
And he's like well that's crap beer where we're from.
Right.
And you know what?
I had the same experience when I was in Mexico and I asked for a Corona light.
And they were like oh that's crap beer.
And here it's like.
I don't much care for Corona.
It's not bad.
But it definitely has a.
I like the other Mexican beers better.
Well Modelo is the number one selling beer in America right now.
Yeah what did they drink?
Is it really?
Yeah.
In America it is now.
I thought Bud Light was.
For the year it still is.
For the year Bud Light still is.
But for the last cell cycle or whatever Modelo passed it for the.
Wherever that cycle is.
So if this continues and they continue to sponsor like pride parades and stuff.
They keep doing it.
Oh Modelo?
No.
Bud Light.
They did again.
I don't understand.
They're not learning from their mistakes.
Fuck them.
You know I don't care.
I don't get it.
I don't care.
I talked to whatever.
And the CEO was on what's it C-SPAN and they were interviewing him or CBS this morning
or something like that.
Right.
And they're grilling him and he didn't back down.
He didn't apologize.
He didn't say yeah this was a mistake or anything.
He's like we just.
This is what we do.
Yeah.
Well then Dylan Mulvaney comes out and says dogs Bud Light for not supporting her.
Him.
Yeah.
Not supporting him.
I'm like what.
Oh.
Nobody.
Nobody's happy.
Yeah.
I'm glad we don't.
I'm glad that story's going away but I'm kind of glad that the boycott is still going on.
Yeah.
You see well Troy Aikman made a comment where he was giving a bunch of the beer brands grief
for putting American flags on their can.
Yeah I saw that.
What was it like that?
Well I read it.
I read it.
He goes we're never going to do that with eight his right.
He goes we're not getting involved.
Oh he has his own beer.
Yeah eight.
Eight.
OK.
That's seems like a familiar number.
It's amazing.
But what he said because I was like I was like what's he getting at.
He's like we're here to make beer.
We're not here to make a comment.
We're not here to make commentary get the politics or anything like that.
Yeah but he does.
We're here to make it well not for this beer apparently.
Whatever.
Fuck him.
So he's like he's like fuck Troy Aikman.
He's like seriously.
You're a Cowboys fan.
How can you say that?
Fuck him.
Why?
Why are you so passionate here?
Well you know why because he says a lot of stupid shit on there.
He does.
Oh he does?
Yeah.
Oh I don't watch.
What is he on?
I have a lot of respect for him.
He kicked ass.
He's not a has been.
He I liked his announcements but when and he's right.
He should keep his political statements to himself which includes commentating for the
sports you know for football.
You know shut the fuck up.
Yeah so what I got.
I don't think he says inflammatory stuff when he's commenting does he?
He has a few times.
It's not a lot but he has a few times but he's like we're here to make beer and to have
a good time and we're here for everybody and we're not going to get mixed up.
And that's what Garth Brooks was trying to say about his bar in Nashville and that didn't
go over well.
I'm going to put the drum on this a little bit with Troy Egman and it bothers me.
There's a difference between slapping a Dylan Mulvaney on a can versus putting a flag.
You know.
Yeah I thought so too.
I was like why are you being critical of the country.
He called out the flag specifically.
Pick out your battles.
I mean a flag isn't the battle you want to take on.
All he should have said is eight is not getting political we're not making commentary or anything
lifted at that.
The fact that he called out the flag it's just like look because of that flag you have
the opportunity to sell your eight.
Right dick.
Right.
Well I agree.
Ask Brittany Greiner about that.
Yeah.
She suddenly now no longer kneels for the anthem.
Yeah well interesting.
Well you know what these are life lessons and you know for all parties involved and you
know including us I mean we're experiencing life lessons left and right because it's just
like you know shit's hitting the fan everywhere and we learn something every day.
And it's just like every time I turn around the bar is being moved.
It's just so frustrating.
You're right the bar moves continually.
It does.
Yeah.
Especially in you know what's expected in social media what's expected.
You know of people commenting on this and that.
I mean but I mean the bottom line is you've got to be grounded in a in a in a comment
not a comment but you have to be grounded in your set of values.
I mean we all make mistakes.
We're going to say things we shouldn't say we're going to do things we shouldn't do.
But you know you come at it with humility.
You stick with your set of values and you roll forward.
You know what I mean.
I don't know.
Well I think we were talking before the podcast in our green room about the newest they're
trying to basically I think what they're trying to do is they're trying to erase what a woman
is because they can't define it and they just want to just blur the lines completely.
And the terminology they have out there to try to erase them like breast feeders or that
statement you said earlier about the whole birthing parent.
Well another one is you can't say vagina anymore.
It's called bonus hole bonus hole.
Good Lord.
I'm not going to disagree.
It is a bonus.
It is a bonus hole.
But come on if you ever visit that hole it is a bonus.
I'm going to try that on your wife tonight.
Hey honey is there any way I could take a look at that.
All right.
Hold on.
Let's let's pump the brakes a little bit.
So let's let's let's go through this.
So if that's the bonus hole then what is the normal hole because I mean if you have a hold
on let's say I've got a beer and then like oh there is a bonus beer.
Oh I'll have the bonus.
So that's saying you already have a hole.
So OK so there you have a regular beer and then you have the bonus beer.
So what are they saying that the asshole is the regular hole.
That's what that's what the mouth is the regular hole.
The bonus is up for it's up for a debate.
I like where Paul's going with this.
Isn't the mouth.
Everybody has a mouth.
Well actually everybody has an anus don't they have nostrils.
Everybody's got nostrils.
See you know what when we when we come up with everybody has ear holes the mouth holes
nose holes when we talk about that kind of thing why are we at each other's throats.
We're all so similar to each other.
Nose holes and ear holes and buttholes except the bonus hole.
Not everybody's got the bonus hole.
That's almost vaginist.
You know I mean not everybody's got a peepee hole either.
Really.
Is that a bonus hole.
Well women have peepee holes.
Yeah what are you talking about.
Everyone's got a peepee hole.
They don't how do you think they secrete urine.
Hold on.
Expel.
Can we.
Yeah.
Do they say it is what it is called a urethra with women too in it.
Yes.
Damn it.
So everybody's got a peepee hole.
What do you what do you think was just one big tube.
It's just so where the hole is is very different.
That's what I'm thinking.
It's kind of the same.
No not really.
Ours is ours is at the end of a very large long shaft and one's inside of this cavernous
mesh.
No it's not.
The stem or the base of that shaft that you're referring to is basically the same area where
the women expel urine.
You know I mean I've got no I have daughters.
OK.
And not that I've seen their stuff but I've I they have gone to the bathroom in front of
me when they were super small.
And I remember one of them I'm not going to say who it was but I remember one of them
the dad because you know one of my kids goes in there and starts peeing standing up you
know one of the boys and she says I could do that too.
And she goes in there and starts being standing up and I was like this is happening.
So and I was like and I looked I saw the stream I was like good job and I just kind of walked
away with Tara.
Come here please.
Yeah.
Oh I had adult three three boys never experienced that.
Yeah two boys.
Yeah.
Never experienced that.
So the standing girl P. I'll tell you what when it comes to like when you go through
the whole baby diaper changing process you know I'm telling you I went to girls girls
were way easier to wipe when they go poop and stuff.
But I mean just follow a few rules front to back with the boys.
That's a whole new game because I'm kind of like oh man you got a set of balls you got
a fucking claim to now.
Yeah.
Now underneath there.
Oh yeah.
There's no front to back on that.
You're kind of like Jesus.
I think that I think those balls are there can like act like a damn.
So when you're a baby it just holds that shit in place.
Yeah that's I have no comment.
This is just nasty.
Yeah.
You guys.
Well I thought to go.
Well I've never had to change girls.
I just experienced that kind of stuff.
I just made my wife change the kids.
Oh no that didn't fly my.
Yeah.
Oh my God.
If if my wife does listen to this podcast I'm going to get a chop to the throat because
that did not happen.
I did my duty.
I can promise you that.
So duty.
I'll tell you what I am super thankful for wet wipes too.
Oh yeah.
You know you know yeah you know the whole things with the kids being pooped you know
going back to the whole vaginal bonus hole you know it it's just you know they're trying
to they these unknown this unknown ether.
Kabal is just is coming after us.
I mean we had the Supreme Court that just waited today that the race conscious admission
programs at Harvard and the University of North Carolina were affirmative of action
is what that is called.
So they're saying one of the the words the phrases they use is that all Americans regardless
of race should be able to apply to these schools.
That's right.
And I'll have equal opportunity based on merit.
They can't use race as a determining factor.
I mean why were they considered that.
I mean is that something that's real.
Yes.
Oh absolutely.
That's where the lawsuit came from.
Harvard was very prejudicial against Asians.
Yeah.
They didn't want any more Asians because Harvard there were like 38 percent Asians.
That's why they don't want any more.
Right.
Because that's all they were denying top notch incredibly talented students.
Because they were Asian.
Doesn't that look.
I'm not.
I'm not going to say either way but what I am going to say is you know are why aren't
the woke folk getting all open arms about this because it doesn't subscribe to the diversity
program they're projecting.
It does.
They're freaking out.
Oh my god they're freaking out and they're calling the they're calling the Supreme Court
a bunch of racist white people.
Oh I recall them saying that.
Yes.
But it was a landslide.
It was like nine zero one.
No it was six three six three.
Yeah.
The hell is that read.
Well the three libs obviously was dissent and the newest one is their name is Jackson.
Yep.
She recused herself with Harvard because she either went there or did some work for Harvard
so she recused herself for that one but she voted against for the North Carolina suit.
A poll.
Can I have another beer.
Well then you're going to not have one for the second podcast.
Jeff do you have any beer downstairs.
I have two in the fridge.
Oh we're good.
Can I have one of those.
Sure.
Well you drink this one.
We'll get we'll grab the other two when I'm done there.
Why is it that you're you're you're you're skipping on the beer downstairs.
I just don't have you in the fridge.
I've been gone a week.
Do you want to shake that up a little bit.
No I'm getting one too.
What about what about what about me.
Well we have two beers downstairs.
You know what we can always have one of my kids bring over some.
Yeah whatever you do.
We're going through our entire inventory in the first half.
What's happening.
So yeah I think this was a big decision.
The huge actually the affirmative action and the speculation is that the schools are going
to try to find ways around it.
Did you you know what.
How are they.
You know what I don't even care.
You know it's just look we're slowly but surely learning that this diversity thing is not
going to work.
I think it would be part of it.
The big slam dunk in my opinion is that the comments the inspirational intentions of this
submarine folk that were coming up.
You know that what is it that the Niels whatever that's a couple of I don't remember the name
of the sub the sub that just like the title the title Ocean Gate Ocean Gate was a company
title company.
So you know what a disaster.
They had a they had a business model where they were saying hey man we want to solicit
folk to be inspired by what we have to offer.
So we want to bring in some diverse people and they would say we don't want some old
white guy running the submarine.
Old white military experienced guy.
Yeah.
So I mean they just.
Of course that wasn't the issue but it was irritating.
But that wasn't the problem.
Because you know who piloted it was the actual CEO.
Well I mean but still and he's a white guy.
You know the sub design was the problem.
Yeah it was never designed to do what they were trying to do with it.
Yeah they said it was like a very thin composite like graphite.
And they were warning signs left and right about its safety and there were somebody was
fired because they wouldn't sign off on the safety of it.
And I mean there now that this disaster has happened all these things are coming out.
Right.
The previous videos of them saying it was safe.
This other father son that said we're not going to go on this thing because it doesn't
seem safe and they passed on it.
And you know and thank God we saw about your cost for the trip that you had two hundred
fifty thousand dollars per person.
Yeah.
You know and it makes you wonder.
You know it makes you and I know this is very unique.
Right.
This is a sub that goes to the Titanic which is like it what thirteen thousand feet deep.
Right.
Yep.
And this is kind of unique but it makes you wonder how many other things go on in the
world where people are blowing the whistle and saying it's not safe but you never hear
about it because it doesn't have this disaster attached to it.
You follow me.
Like.
Oh yeah.
Like people like like that's not safe and that's not safe and you know whatever.
But but it never comes to light like this did.
Well they also said at the same time you had those refugees in the Mediterranean.
Seven hundred were on that boat capsized and it capsized migrants.
Oh well that was Obama saying that's what they said.
Well it didn't get equal airtime.
He was saying it was I wish I knew the exact quote.
It's ridiculous this quote.
It was see if you can look that up.
Obama migrant capsized.
He.
Yeah.
He said there was gross obscene.
That's what obscene inequality.
In the news coverage.
I don't agree with that.
I don't agree with that at all.
And not because this is the.
This was a unique thing because you need because it's a submarine for one thing.
Like Troy Aikman fuck Obama.
Wow.
Seriously he in retrospect he was not a fantastic.
The only thing he did great he was a he could speak very well and convince people.
Yep.
He convinced grandma he was an incredibly divisive president and he continued to be
divisive.
Every time he sits down and talks or gives a statement it's divisive.
Maybe we should sit down and have a beer and we could talk things through.
So fuck him.
He's a piece of poopoo.
That's really he really is.
You know and he's married.
I'm not a fan.
And Michelle.
Look I don't.
Boy there's a lot of conspiracies out there that she's actually a dude.
There's a lot of people who think that.
I mean when you look at the videos when she's doing the dancing video and they shoot in
slow mo and it shows like these balls going back and forth.
Well there was something going on there.
I mean that's the biggest Philadelphia steak scene which I have ever seen slap in the front
of that dress.
And I'm not one to jump at conspiracies.
When you watch that video it's like what the hell is going on there.
What happened.
She forgot to tuck.
I don't know.
I don't know if it's true or not.
I don't give a shit.
But you know there's all kinds of speculation that their daughters look like their friends.
They showed that.
Yeah there was some sort of.
I've never heard this.
Yeah.
Well I can't pull it up because my computer is doing something stupid.
But they look like their friends.
It was like a lawyer friend of theirs.
I mean they totally look like that.
Eyebrows are shaped the same and everything.
It's kind of like somebody in the family.
Somebody in the family kind of thing.
So OK.
Walk me through this.
So if Michelle is a guy.
Well they couldn't have babies.
They couldn't have babies.
They're like you see no pictures.
So these are surrogates.
So she didn't have the bonus holes.
Is that what you're saying?
Well one of the other things I see is there are no pictures of her pregnant.
Interesting.
At least.
Yeah they offered like a hundred thousand dollars to produce a picture of her pregnant.
We live in the most jacked up world ever.
But seriously they're so stupid.
But they can't find it.
So walk me through this.
So then so they they're stated surrogates.
Yes.
So Obama donated his sperm to some.
I don't know how they manage but they're.
And again I don't subscribe to it.
It's just what I read.
It's so crazy.
They're like these daughters aren't daughters of Barack and Michelle.
Are they even Barack's?
Correct.
So who knows.
So we we went from Obama complaining about the.
What are you doing?
My computer had to reboot for some reason.
So we went from from him complaining about the coverage of the sub to are those really
his kids and is his wife really a woman.
Like wow.
There's a huge faction of folks.
I don't know how big they are but that's so dumb.
Anyway I don't care.
I don't.
Well hold on.
There's a picture of Obama.
Michelle Obama pregnant right there.
What are we talking about?
Are those real?
She's got a puppy face a puppy face like she has gone through pregnancy.
Yeah she's definitely.
Oh come on.
This is so dumb.
Of course she's a woman.
She's got a bonus hole.
I don't looks photoshopped.
Her face looks like it does today.
Not when she had a kid 20 plus years ago.
Are you subscribing to this?
I don't know if it's true or not.
And frankly I don't care.
However the picture that they have on here clearly looks like it was photoshopped.
That face looks like the picture.
She looks like she's taking a shit there.
She also looks too old.
Anyway let's move on.
But that sub thing was crazy.
So apparently they knew right away.
The Navy knew right away that that thing had imploded and that they were dead.
And so they pulled the wreckage up from the water and they're saying there's remains in
there.
Was there really?
Chunks or something.
Well I mean if you think about it.
It's like imagine taking a can.
You got a bunch of stuff in the can.
Like equipment and humans.
And then you send it to the bottom of the ocean and it goes whoosh.
So it totally crushes.
So yeah of course you're going to find stuff inside there.
He was listening to some sort of analysis about it.
And this guy.
Go ahead and explain what you heard.
He did the math or something like that.
And that pressure that once it collapsed the sides move at 1500 miles an hour.
Oh yeah.
No they had no they felt no pain.
They said it would have it would have touched sides in point one milliseconds.
Yes.
And the brain reacts can pick something up in like point oh four and you can react to
point two five.
That's how your brain how fast your brain can react.
So they never they never even realized it.
But in addition they never felt it the fact that it imploded at that rate the oxygen that
was in there ignited.
Yeah it ignited it because sometimes you see those implosions it looks like there's an
explosion.
Well that's the gas it's get compressed so hard that oxygen it caught fire and incinerated
the bodies which kind of makes me wonder if they found remains if that's I mean I guess
it didn't cook for very well.
It doesn't necessarily mean that it did ignite.
You're saying it can.
Well this is what this guy was saying.
He uses typically probably what happened right.
No one was there.
So they pulled it out and there is a stew of remains inside there basically.
Yeah.
Well no I mean I would imagine it's like kind of all crushed into the into the metal and
the plastic and the this and that into the equipment.
I mean it's just kind of gel.
I imagine a lot of the sea animals out there were just going to town.
Yeah just I mean it was down there for four days five days.
If any of it even escaped the seven days the you know what I mean.
Like again take a can like a Coke can with a bunch of stuff in it and then you crush
it into like a tiny.
I mean I wouldn't imagine much would escape.
I mean the outer shell of the thing it's kind of collapsed.
Well what once it once it collapses and it gets pressurized what it kind of kind of fall
apart fall back apart.
Oh good point says right when they said there was a debris field.
Well they also during this whole thing people were arguing.
Well how come the Titanic didn't implode.
Right.
Well because it's not a sealed thing.
That's right.
It wasn't there are compartments that were sealed.
Well then they got crushed those did those got crushed.
But the ship itself they're like well how come it did.
While the submarine is sealed and pressurized.
Yeah well yeah the Titanic is not pressurized.
Correct.
And then when it went down it just kept meeting the pressure.
There were no sealed submarines.
That was another thing they were pointing out because I pulled up a there's a stockton's
put out some sort of a list of red flags that they put out there.
And one of them was that they had like some sort of the opening to get in there.
And there's like 18 holes and of the 18 there was only 17 bolts.
And there was like well why aren't you going to put that 18th in there.
It's like we don't need it.
Yeah he apparently he apparently was way too casual to Cavalier Cavalier about the whole
thing.
And when you read the story about the father and son that that worse were signed up to
go or he was trying to get to go on it and they were like no it's not it doesn't sound
safe to me.
He flew out there on an experimental plane.
You read that story.
So the guy the CEO who ended up dying.
The Indian guy or Pakistani guy.
No no no the the CEO of the Oh Ocean Gate Ocean Gate.
He flew out on an experimental airplane you know to go talk to him in person.
This father and son.
And so you know when you know when the father heard that this guy's appetite for risk involved
because he was a pilot too.
Like he would never fly an experimental plane.
And that did it in for him.
He was like this guy's like if he's willing to fly an air experimental plane out to talk
to us about this I'm not comfortable going in his submarine.
Right.
Chuck Yeager did it did what I flew a bunch of experimental planes.
Yeah I mean that's how you learn.
That's the Wright brothers did it.
That's how he was an experiment.
I don't think he was doing it to learn that.
That's how John Denver died.
He wasn't playing an expert.
He wasn't flying an experiment.
Yes he was.
He was 100 percent.
Well he did some modifications.
No.
It was the type of craft that if you ran out of gas and needed to switch to a reserve tank
and had a reserve tank it was awkwardly behind the pilot back into the left.
But was that an experimental plane.
It was.
And he didn't switch to the reserve tank soon enough and he crashed into the ocean.
Well that's because he should have got out of his little seat and crawled back there.
No he should have just reached back and done it.
And that's what they were saying they ended up grounding that experimental plane because
of the design flaw in where that that switch is.
But was it readily available.
So it was so I mean it's not an experiment.
If it's out there on the market to buy is it at that point experimental.
Yes.
That doesn't seem right.
I mean doesn't those don't those things need to be have approval to be to sell them to
the American public.
I think I think it comes in a kit and it is something that if you stick the tag experimental
on it then that's how you can get around FAA regulations and all sorts of other shit.
Well yeah.
And that's exactly what this guy was saying.
If he's willing to fly that then I'm not going in his basically a bicycle with wings.
Yes basically.
I mean I'm sure there's tons of enthusiasts right amateur enthusiasts who build their
own experimental planes and and have had hours and hours and hours of success.
Right.
Well there's a difference because they said that now you have a bunch of design folks
talking about.
Yeah there's a lot of big flaws in the design of this thing.
Oh yeah.
I mean even the guy that worked for Ocean Gate was like this is not going to work.
So it says in 2018 Ocean Gate employee turned whistleblower David Lockridge joined more
than 30 industry leaders in urging Rush to have the Titan tested by a third party and
have certified saying in a letter that the company's experimental approach could lead
to catastrophic consequences.
And it did.
Yeah absolutely.
And that was in 2018.
That was five years ago.
Yep.
And there were a number of successful trips to the Titanic in that graph.
It wasn't like it was the maiden trip but you know.
They said that the graphite composite would under that pressure would crack.
Crack crack crack crack crack crack crack crack crack a little more.
And then obviously what happened right.
Yeah.
You can't really see the cracks but they're small enough it's going to cause a problem.
I mean if somebody was in it and and reported I mean you know and said they heard they heard
the cracks and it made them exceptionally nervous.
So also they're all the way down there.
Yeah.
And they're like the buzz is that the United States Coast Guard or Navy forget which one
synonymously knew that it imploded on Sunday.
Yeah.
That's what I'm saying earlier.
They heard it.
So the question is is that so the what the buzz is what some of the news reporting is
saying is that the news purposely kept and pushed this narrative out there to cover up
some of the other ongoing issues.
Hunter Biden.
The Hunter Biden one.
I mean completely no one talks about that shit.
And the hearing with the Durham guy.
That happened at the same time.
Yeah.
And the court not that court but hearing was going on at the same time.
So they drugged that thing out of the Hunter Biden.
He had his sweetheart deal created.
Yeah.
That happened the same time.
He's plea deal.
It's it's a story of a father who loves his son and we need to focus on that.
That was that the bitch said in freaking.
Oh about Joe Biden loving Hunter.
Yeah.
Who Kareem.
So crazy.
I mean dude I don't know if we want to get into all the corruption and and all the evidence
about the you know the bribery thing going on.
But I tell you I will tell you this.
It's gaining steam.
There's the pressures kind of ramping up.
And but here's what's crazy.
Let's move.
Let's move on.
Like some people are calling for an impeachment trial.
Right.
Well Lauren Lauren Boebert.
Yes.
Filed the papers.
Right.
And we have we the Republicans don't have the Senate.
So it doesn't matter even if it just like Trump got impeached twice.
Just like right.
And it didn't make any difference because there was no way they were going to remove
him from office.
But then you can still say well he's been impeached.
Yes.
So I guess that was Nancy Pelosi's thing.
That was her hope.
He's still impeached.
Well you know what he's going to look at that little that impeachment is going to be a blemish
on his record for the rest of his life.
Right.
And that's why.
So maybe.
But here my attitude is why are we fucking wasting time.
I mean get some shit done like do do things right.
You mean don't hold him accountable and just get through this presidency.
No no no.
I mean because he's like just fucking things up left and right.
And you know also Congress is signing additional billions of dollars to go over to Ukraine.
I get it.
But here's the thing.
Billions.
Here's the thing.
We can impeach him all we want.
Right.
But it's not going to do anything.
It's not going to do anything.
They're not going to remove him from office.
And do we even want him to be removed from office.
Think about who would be the president.
Right.
Come on.
Let's be real here.
We do not want Kim to Harris be president.
No.
Right.
So what either one of them either we don't want either one of them.
But I mean I don't know.
I say why are we wasting our time with this.
But if they want to do the same bullshit that you know Pelosi did which is all that's going
to be tarnished his record and that's going to be a big stain.
Who's the speaker that has McCarthy McCarthy.
So McCarthy is talking about doing something where they can take away the impeachment.
What do they call that.
Take away the impeachment.
What do you mean.
He's finally.
Oh from Trump.
Yeah.
He's saying he's doing something where they can move that impeachment from the records.
What do you call it.
Expunge.
Yeah.
So I mean what's the story behind that.
How can they do that.
I haven't heard anything about that.
I have heard that and I don't know the details.
But it's interesting because what's her name.
Marjorie Taylor Green.
Taylor Green.
Yeah.
She was working on the whole expunge.
Expunge.
Thing.
Yes.
Well there we go.
Pressed on his views McCarthy said he agreed with expunging both of Trump's impeachments
the abuse of power charges in 2019 over pressing Ukraine's president to dig up dirt on rival
Joe Biden blah blah blah.
And then the January 6th insurrection.
All right.
So but we need more.
We need more about what what that even means.
Well what is it.
What does it do when you expunge it.
You expunge it.
I mean because we know what expunging is right.
That's where like if you if your kid usually in the context of expunging it's your kid
as a minor did messed up royally and remove it from the record and you remove it from
their record.
Yes.
So so that would be removed from the official cabinet and not cabinet congressional record
that he was impeached.
I don't know.
I don't know what the point.
I don't know.
Well the point is is like you know it.
Well I mean it gets rid of it.
I mean because it was based on false narratives.
It was based on fake.
Well you saw that they censured pencil next shift.
Adam Schiff.
Yes.
You don't hear a whole lot of that.
And what does that do exactly.
Is he like a late.
Is he still going to become senator.
Probably.
So you could get censured in and still doesn't mean anything.
This is all just to see you had to theater.
This is all tip for tat.
They're like put something on your record that looks shitty.
So there's like two dozen care in Congress that have been censored in the past.
Yeah it doesn't make any.
And I'm like well that's just I mean what is it.
I mean is it like a speeding ticket.
What this is is two parties that are so hopelessly at each other's throats that this country
is not going to go anywhere.
We're not going to have we're not going to get any real real legislation that helps real
people and moves this country in the right direction because these two party politics
is is fucking choking our country to death.
That's that's what this is.
We the wigs.
We need to go back with.
Oh just those big.
Just get the wigs.
No the party.
Oh I thought you had three parties.
But what if we wear the things that they are.
Yeah.
Nice.
I'm in the podcast.
I'm in the wool.
Now we don't have video and that's probably another reason why because you want to wear
wigs powdered wigs while we're doing the podcast.
Well the powder was was because they sweat and there was also we said lice.
Yeah.
Well hold on what.
Yeah.
We've talked about this before.
We talked about life.
So they're medicated wigs and ticks.
I don't know.
They have red in there.
I don't know.
A little rocha cock off.
Yeah.
I imagine that because they didn't have AC back then.
You know they just sweat.
You know just those wool and I bet there's all kinds of funk.
Just rose.
Petri dish.
Yes.
And I bet you when they got done with their sessions and they come home and they take
their wig off and put it on the little wooden stand they're like oh my god.
It's in their head.
It's a sweat.
And their wife is like oh it's so nasty.
Take it outside.
It smells.
I want some tea.
Or maybe they said wear that tonight.
I find you so horny.
Well I think everyone stunk back then.
So maybe they just look past it because you know the garage was just ripe.
The crotch.
You just know back then.
They're old wool.
Yeah.
The bonus hole.
They had 100 degrees back then.
Yeah.
The bonus hole I'm sure was just.
They said oh good lord your bonus was ripe tonight.
Yeah.
What do you got.
Air that thing out honey.
They didn't need a chastity belt.
That was the chastity belt.
You want some of this?
No thank you.
Yeah I'll pass.
Good lord.
That thing reeks.
You got a braided chastity vest across your bonus hole.
What the hell.
You know you think about these times.
You watch these movies.
These historical movies.
Like just from the luxuries we have today like indoor plumbing, air conditioning, clean
water and access to all that stuff.
You look back and you're like that would be terrible.
You just have chafe and rot and all kinds of shit working in there.
I mean Shelley and I make jokes.
No deodorant.
I mean even when we watch rom coms or any show where these couples wake up in the morning
and they're like oh and they just start going at it.
I'm like bullshit nobody does that.
Nobody does that.
You have ass breath.
Yeah I mean seriously.
Everybody gets up and they brush their teeth or they take mouthwash and they go back to
the bed.
Right.
And in these movies they're just kind of you know let's tongue in each other and it's like
no that's not realistic.
I'm sorry it isn't.
But maybe we should ask Sean.
Sean has a different feeling.
He likes morning tongue.
Apparently.
No.
Morning breath is something you're into.
Well I mean not on my mouth.
Oh.
But that's not what we're talking about.
Yeah we're not talking about morning.
We're talking about people who are kissing.
We're not talking about people exploring the bonus hole.
Well it's bonus pole so.
Bonus pole.
Whatever could he mean Jeff.
I'm really lost on where he's going with this.
So I don't know if you guys heard but George Soros is about to retire.
Well his son is worse.
And then I sent you that article today.
Which one.
He's George Soros' son.
Yeah.
Is meeting with all the high level Democrat leaders.
Yeah.
Unbelievable.
Yep.
So they can figure out what kind of shenanigans to promote for the.
I mean what are we going to do.
So and plus they're going to plan for the next because they know a republic is going
to take over.
So the first thing they're going to do is all right we're going to get all these other
people involved to get one of those Chad and Tifa.
Let's get all these people up.
Let's start.
What cities do we want to destroy.
Let's figure it out.
OK.
What cities.
Tell you what.
Let's do downtown Dallas.
All right cool.
Let's do that.
It's so concentrated in all these Democrat places.
It is a bad idea to do Texas.
I'm just saying it is a bad idea.
Dallas is is live.
Very live.
The city is all the cities are Houston San Antonio Austin.
Let's listen.
My recommendation would be for them to not do it where they have guns.
I mean I don't because some people are going to get shot.
It's going to fuck up a lot of things.
I guess I guarantee it.
I mean they they pulled their shenanigans as a Black Lives Matter program out there
at Preston in 121 and I didn't go very well.
No I didn't.
You know some people got thrown in jail and you know what.
Shame on the Plano Police.
If they let it happen.
And you know what.
I got my third FU.
Fuck the Plano Police.
Oh you're going for the trifecta.
Seriously how could they possibly allow that to happen.
Well first of all allow it to happen and throw the dudes over that.
I mean you've got.
I mean did they pass in the courts that you're not allowed to disrupt the traffic anymore
due to the potential for emergencies.
Yeah so let's refresh.
That was two years ago.
Yeah so we had.
Our three.
So it was happening like seemingly all over the country and then suddenly we had our first
dose of Antifa people in the street disrupting traffic you know and we clearly have a law
that if you disrupt a traffic to the point where an emergency vehicle can't do its thing
like an ambulance or something like that.
And they did they were disrupting traffic and drivers were very upset and one driver
got out and was like accosting people and he's the one that gets arrested.
Yeah.
Yeah and the Plano Police are just sitting by while these idiots.
They were super organized.
They had walkie talkies.
They had vests on.
They had prefabricated or pre-made shirts for the event.
I mean it was organized.
And they had their masks.
They had their Antifa masks and they had.
Well did you see the footage where because you know the theories out there.
The theory out there.
Do they have guns.
They did have guns.
The Antifa guys had guns.
They sure did.
This is Texas.
You can carry a gun.
Yes they did have guns.
OK.
Because they've got the videos.
They've got videos and you see them with sidearms.
Then it's on.
Yeah.
It's not going to go well.
It won't because they're it's it won't end well.
And I will support with 100 percent of what I've got if something goes down.
I'm telling you I've already come up with my different idea.
My opinion is you know is you you have your emergency plan.
Well I mean we've talked about this before.
Let's play through this.
So you're on your couch and you're playing video games in your underwear.
In my underwear.
And suddenly what emergency.
Let's let Jeff and I play this out.
What emergency signal could come up that where Sean would want to jump in jump into action
and go get his guns and make something happen.
What would that be.
Hold on.
You're labeling this maybe a banner flying out the direction that I was taking this was
my flag my vehicle response assembly.
Oh so you're in the car.
Yeah.
So much better.
So I mean look first of all you know in addition to carrying a gun which I don't promote taking
your gun out for any reason what's it needs to be life or death thing.
So I would take the gun out just because there's a you know I would take it out.
No no you have it with you.
You have it with you.
But you would never bring it out and pointed at somebody unless it's unless it's absolutely
it would be because if you take a gun out your intention is to shoot somebody.
That's the only time you take it out.
It's like look you're going to die.
And once I take the gun out it's that's it.
That is the only reason why I'm not going to sit there take my gun out and have a debate
with you.
No once the guns out I'm shooting.
So it really that's that's the difference.
You know that's what people need to understand.
But I also recommend everyone get that that's concealed handgun insurance.
It's like seven dollars a month.
I forget exactly what it's called.
Oh yeah yeah yeah.
But it's where you have a lawyer you have a legal assistance in the event of a shooting.
Yeah.
Because you know I recommend that.
You know outside of that I'm thinking you know I would carry a can of wall spray in
your.
Do you have one?
Do you carry one with you?
I've got mace now.
I bought I bought two things a mace.
I've got one that's an extended one that shoots like 20 feet and then I got one that shoots
like three to five feet.
Have you tried it on yourself yet?
This is very effective.
Guys just for the record this works.
Oh my God.
I can't see.
I can't breathe.
Tara help me.
She's like you're on your own.
Well don't some of the recruits have to go through that they go through getting shocked.
No.
And I've seen some footage where they get shot in the face with pepper spray and mace.
What recruits?
Cops?
Cops.
What?
Well they do their training like even military soldiers do the same.
They're exposed to different types of gases and stuff and you really need to because when
you're out in the field and you're mass spraying people.
You have to be in a position to handle that.
You have to know what to expect.
Not just yeah that's what it mostly is.
You need to know what to expect and how long it's going to last and how to handle it.
You know and I feel bad for some of them even though these guys are fucking douchebags and
deserve to be gutted on the spot.
I feel bad for anybody that has to go through pain like that because they spray some of
that.
It just sticks to the face.
Oh dude it's just.
I mean they've got this.
I mean you're down.
They go down.
But they sit there for I mean when they arrest them they slap the little zip tie cuffs on
them and they sit there and they're just miserable because they can't wash it out.
And so it's just got to exercise.
It's got to be consumed into the body and then.
You know your snot's just rolling just eyes are just dripping.
Well you know what again back to life lessons but you know.
Don't get that situation.
Wasp spray I recommend it.
You know I mean look if you're in a life or death.
You're saying wasp spray but you mean you mean.
Raid.
No.
You were talking earlier that you're talking about God what's wrong with me.
The stuff that you were talking about.
You're talking about pepper spray.
Pepper spray.
Mace right.
Mace.
I'm not talking about actual wasp spray.
I love that stuff.
Look that stuff's amazing.
So it's a little bit more difficult to go to the store and purchase a mace.
I mean you can't you can find it may or may not but look you can go to anywhere and go
buy wasp spray.
Keep it.
Keep it right under your seat.
So the thing about hold on the thing about wasp spray what do you use it for.
You've used it to kill wasps.
So that fucker shoots 20 25 feet.
But what.
So we had this conversation.
What does it do to humans.
Oh it just.
Well first of all it blinds them.
Oh it'll fuck them up.
Well no I mean.
But if.
Look if you were.
If you were.
What does it do to humans.
If you had.
Oh well it.
It blinds them.
And it irritates it.
It's an irritant for sure.
It's going to cause permanent damage.
It could cause permanent damage.
But tell you what.
When you're stuck in a mob and they're kicking in your windshield and they're breaking in
your window.
Dude you know what I'm spraying everybody.
I get it.
I totally get it.
I would love to see something definitive that tells us what happens to a human's eyes that
you squirt like boom.
I.
Oh I'm sure it's like maybe acid or something.
I mean.
It's got to be horrible.
Oh yeah.
So.
So apparently.
Nonrecoverable.
So apparently pepper spray does not have lasting effects.
I mean not permanent damage.
No it's no.
It's capsaicin the hot peppers juice.
Right.
OK.
Well there you go.
But.
So I'm thinking.
The difference is you could shoot it.
You can open your car up.
You can open your car.
You just crack it.
You just shoot a line out in the front and just aim it at their their upper torso area
right.
And just the fact that it hits them.
It stops them in their track and it would stink.
You don't have to hit them in the face.
That's right.
It creates a cloud.
You just graze them a little bit.
And just the fact that they get hit with something.
It alarms them and it stops them from what they're doing.
They're like oh my god what is this gas.
And they run away.
This may be a bad decision.
Yeah I'm just.
I'm just going to run them over.
I'm going to have that big old.
I really have that big old bear spray.
You ever see that stuff.
Back over the three times.
And then get out of the car and shoot them.
Yeah.
Get the bear spray.
You see when the cops shoot that stuff.
It's big orange.
Let me clean this out of your eyes.
I'll pee on them.
It's orange.
Oh my god.
I wouldn't do that folks.
This is just for the podcast.
Yeah.
I.
I would be hesitant to shoot wash spray at them because because I would think that it
causes permanent blinds.
Well look what happened to the guy in New York.
And then you go to jail.
Well look what happened to the guy in New York.
On the subway he put the guy in the choke hold because he was threatening people.
He just got indicted.
Yeah.
Well you know he'll get off.
Really.
I believe so.
Well it's in New York so I don't know.
Well I will tell you that.
But it's not just New York.
It's in New York and those people that drive the subways.
He's going to be in a jury of his peers.
Which means all those people ride the subway.
Yes.
So they know and are aware of it.
That's only.
And the media tried to make this a racial thing.
Right.
Because it's just wrong.
But I will tell you that one of the his biggest supporters that was in the car was a black
woman that said he is my hero.
Right.
For what he did that day.
Right.
And I love that because it totally takes out the racial element.
It's not a racial element.
It is.
Some psycho.
I don't care what color height weight whatever you are threatening women and children.
This Marine sprung into action and you know I don't necessarily know if he saved their
lives but you don't know if he didn't.
You don't know what this guy was going to do.
Well he threatened.
He goes I want to kill someone.
That's right.
That effect.
Yes.
And so he took him down.
What's really weird is why did he die?
I mean he choked him out.
Well he said he put him in a hold that is typical that they learn in the military that
should not kill them.
Well that's just it.
I haven't released.
What is this guy's name?
Was he a drug?
Just like George Floyd.
I wonder if I wonder if people who are high on like you know fentanyl or whatever if you
obstruct them even to a minor degree it puts an undue strain on the heart.
I don't know.
I don't know either because the George Floyd thing was a perfect example of that.
So he's saying his death was a result of the compression of the neck from the city medicals.
Did he break the hyoid?
I don't know.
It's just something's weird about it.
Something's weird about it.
So yeah maybe he was so amped and he was you know had him in a choke hold and just held
him too long.
So my defense would be this.
I've had to physically restrain people before and my intention wasn't to hurt them and you
know the intentions to restrain them.
Right.
To get them to calm down.
That's it.
Right and I would have to I would control my squeezing pending on their struggling.
So if they struggle I squeeze harder.
When they stop struggling which doesn't mean they're knocked out they just they have a
tendency to release and then you let loose a little bit.
When they start struggling you tighten up a little bit more.
And you know and then so I don't know man.
It's just weird.
It's just weird that he died and it's weird that George Floyd died.
It's just weird to me.
So I would like to get a chemical test.
I don't know what they call that the official breakdown because they you know with that
George Floyd dude you know they said it was he asphyxiated but then later determined that
he had the amount of fentanyl and other drugs inside him.
I know.
He would have died anyways.
Right.
You know evidently when they were he must have swallowed it while they were arresting
him or something like that and he just at that time he died.
He didn't die of some dude with his knee on his neck.
I know.
And that's that's my that's my thought as well.
But I mean why is this happening.
I don't get it.
So the medical examiner rules that Jordan Neely's death was a homicide that was from
May 3rd 2000.
I have no problem with them investigating it.
It's a homicide.
You got to look into OK what happened.
Right.
Yeah.
So you know but it'll be a misjustice if he gets any kind of prison time for I agree.
It will be and it's just they had some sort of thing happening today.
The Parkland shooter police officer who ran in and resource officer.
Yeah.
Well he his intentions were good.
He went in there.
He was planning on doing something and then you know he was going to save the children
and the teachers.
And then all of a sudden he didn't know where the shooter was.
He got scared and hid behind the wall.
Right.
Well I mean he didn't go in.
So you're using phrase keywords there that really needs to be explored what really is
going on.
Is it was a fear.
I don't think it was fear.
I think it was and it could have been.
I don't want to speak for him.
But here's the thing.
You got someone in there that's like killing people.
Right.
You're by yourself.
Right.
All right.
So do you want to go out guns blazing and shoot and and you've seen the footage of the
Allen outlet.
Yes.
Oh yeah.
And I was done by boom.
That's amazing.
That's it's a very similar situation.
That's what should have happened.
Well that's his job.
And it's not his job.
So do it.
But the defense is that the shooter they could he could see the shooter and that they could
he could pinpoint where the shooter was.
Well the guy Allen had trouble too.
He couldn't find him.
He was asking where he was out.
He was running right at him.
He finally came out boom boom boom.
Put him down.
Well you know.
So here's the thing I don't do I think that they should be charged with a crime and be
put in prison because they weren't manly enough or assertive enough or confident enough or
alpha or alpha.
No I don't.
But but should it should it be recognized that he didn't do enough.
Sure.
But but should he go to jail for it.
No.
And do you remember the the the country concert in Las Vegas where the guy was sitting or
shooting out of the window.
I don't know.
There was a similar situation.
There was a guy outside of the room that was like against the wall going oh my god oh my
god oh my god.
And he didn't go in until like another team came in.
And I mean look they always tell people you never know don't go in the room alone.
Right.
You need to wait for backup wait for backup wait for backup.
Right.
And it just seemed you know it was unfortunate.
And that's what agrees.
And that's what happened in the Uvalde.
Uvalde.
Really.
I mean that's what happened in that deal.
Right.
And they were milling around outside the school while they were hearing shots go off.
Dude.
Hell no.
And then there were guys that were like we're going in and they're like no you're not stand
down.
You know what I mean.
It's crazy.
Yeah.
That was a bad situation.
You can't do that stuff.
You have to go in guns blazing.
And I think the the Allen police officers showed what a police officer should do.
Absolutely.
And you know what.
And you put your life in danger because that's what you signed up to do.
Yeah.
And I didn't realize that guy got off as many shots as he did because you hear that gun
go off.
It sounds like 50 times.
Yeah.
Boom boom boom boom boom.
And he's running.
He's running getting out of breath trying to run find the guy.
Amazing.
You know he's yelling at cars to get out and everything.
Which guy are you talking about the guy that Parkland.
And Allen.
The cop.
Oh yeah that guy.
Yeah.
You know and it's he found him and you could see him going shooting them.
Man there are warriors out there.
You know.
He's a he needs a battle.
He did.
He did some good.
Well just like the Nashville shooters the Nashville school deal they went in guns blazing.
Correct.
Yeah.
I mean that's what you are.
You should do.
But they also they had teamwork like the guy did not have teamwork.
But you know.
Yep.
I got you.
And that is fantastic.
I mean that's a great story.
Like it all sucks.
I mean we live in times now where it's just I mean this is Texas.
You know they're.
It's in it's in our backyards.
You know it's it's happening.
I mean Allen is right really close.
Right.
You know it's just it it sucks.
But you know we had a we had a great officer out there and you know just by chance by the
way.
Yeah.
He was there.
They're unrelated to the service one.
Yeah.
I don't know why he was there.
He was there for an unrelated thing.
He had stopped.
That's right.
He pulled somebody over or he was he was for some unrelated thing and all of a sudden it
happened and he just.
Well he was talking to kids about wearing the seat belt.
He was like.
Yeah.
And he was talking to kids a bunch of kids gathered around him and he was teaching them
about safety in the car and wearing a seat belt.
This also here.
Who can he stops.
He goes like what those are gunshots.
He goes to his car gets his rifle and he's and he's running and he's running across a
whole damn thing and he finds a guy.
I'm believe he's like he's like where is he at where is he and he's called for help.
Yeah right because I don't know where he's at.
I don't know where he's at.
He's asking people it sounds like.
Where's it at.
Unbelievable.
Yeah.
You're right.
Hero.
That's absolute metal scenario.
And he he sounded as calm as you would hope you could be.
Right.
So you you you would also you would also training is part of that right.
It is it is.
But yeah but you're right.
You never know what you're going to do in those situations.
So you know that's slapped in there kind of abruptly.
Yes it dropped in there.
I love it.
All right guys.
It's the tail end.
It's our first half.
It's June 29th.
We've got some you know fantastic second half that's coming up now.
We have fantastic bourbon that Paul drank 15 glasses.
No no no no just just the one.
Oh just the one.
But the Williamsburg you finished.
I did.
I finished Williamsburg.
No no no.
I had another glass.
Oh.
So but thanks for pointing that out there.
Well good deal to us.
We'll be back in just a few minutes taking a break.
I'm Sean.
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