1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:08,900 Hi, everyone. 2 00:00:08,900 --> 00:00:11,660 Welcome back to another episode of The Piano Pod. 3 00:00:11,660 --> 00:00:13,540 I'm Yukimi Somb. 4 00:00:13,540 --> 00:00:14,540 I'm Clara Jung. 5 00:00:14,540 --> 00:00:16,920 And I am Eric Hunter. 6 00:00:16,920 --> 00:00:23,880 The guest of the third episode is Mike Grande, who is a creator of Rock Out Loud Live, which 7 00:00:23,880 --> 00:00:31,560 is a software, a virtual music lesson platform, meaning it's like Zoom, but it's way better. 8 00:00:31,560 --> 00:00:32,560 It's not like Zoom. 9 00:00:32,560 --> 00:00:38,000 We just spent the past five minutes trying to figure out original sound. 10 00:00:38,000 --> 00:00:39,000 My mic is gloomy. 11 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:43,440 Eric is telling me I sound worse with the setup on. 12 00:00:43,440 --> 00:00:44,440 So it's not like Zoom. 13 00:00:44,440 --> 00:00:45,440 So I'm sorry. 14 00:00:45,440 --> 00:00:46,440 A Zoom replacement. 15 00:00:46,440 --> 00:00:47,440 A Zoom killer. 16 00:00:47,440 --> 00:00:48,440 Let's call it a Zoom killer. 17 00:00:48,440 --> 00:00:49,440 A music Zoom. 18 00:00:49,440 --> 00:00:50,440 Exactly. 19 00:00:50,440 --> 00:00:57,760 I'm just trying to communicate through an audience because they have no idea. 20 00:00:57,760 --> 00:01:03,320 So trying to use that Zoom as an example, but way better in terms of audio. 21 00:01:03,320 --> 00:01:07,480 And it's actually specifically made for music lessons, online music lessons, right? 22 00:01:07,480 --> 00:01:09,200 Yeah, that's exactly right. 23 00:01:09,200 --> 00:01:10,200 Wonderful. 24 00:01:10,200 --> 00:01:13,280 So anyway, thank you so much, Mike, for joining us today. 25 00:01:13,280 --> 00:01:14,560 How are you doing? 26 00:01:14,560 --> 00:01:15,560 I'm doing great. 27 00:01:15,560 --> 00:01:16,920 Thanks for having me, especially on a Saturday. 28 00:01:16,920 --> 00:01:20,520 I know it's been tough to get me Monday through Friday to take this time, especially on a 29 00:01:20,520 --> 00:01:24,200 Saturday morning when people have tons of things to do on that personal world. 30 00:01:24,200 --> 00:01:26,080 I really appreciate you guys making time. 31 00:01:26,080 --> 00:01:27,080 So thank you. 32 00:01:27,080 --> 00:01:28,080 No, it's great. 33 00:01:28,080 --> 00:01:29,080 Wonderful. 34 00:01:29,080 --> 00:01:30,080 Thank you. 35 00:01:30,080 --> 00:01:31,080 Yes. 36 00:01:31,080 --> 00:01:37,780 So we've come to know Rock Out Loud Live from other piano teachers such as Andrew Incrobat 37 00:01:37,780 --> 00:01:42,480 of the Music Color Method and Carly Walton of Teach Music Online. 38 00:01:42,480 --> 00:01:50,560 And we've read rave reviews of your software in terms of better audio and being able to 39 00:01:50,560 --> 00:01:56,400 do duets at the same time, like simultaneously with your student and sheet music integration 40 00:01:56,400 --> 00:01:57,760 so forth. 41 00:01:57,760 --> 00:02:01,680 So could you tell us all about Rock Out Loud Live? 42 00:02:01,680 --> 00:02:02,680 You betcha. 43 00:02:02,680 --> 00:02:07,000 So it's funny because people have said to me it came out because of 2020's pandemic, 44 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:08,120 which really it wasn't. 45 00:02:08,120 --> 00:02:09,120 It was out. 46 00:02:09,120 --> 00:02:10,880 I started building this three years ago. 47 00:02:10,880 --> 00:02:15,440 I was on a podcast, Danny Thompson's got Music Lesson Business Academy, a podcast that he 48 00:02:15,440 --> 00:02:17,000 hosts in California. 49 00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:22,000 I was on in 2018 and I said, guys, five year plan is everything's virtual. 50 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:24,320 It's like, ah, no, it's never going to be virtual. 51 00:02:24,320 --> 00:02:26,140 I said, I'm building this application. 52 00:02:26,140 --> 00:02:27,680 It's going to be virtual. 53 00:02:27,680 --> 00:02:31,520 Danny has since closed down his school to do only virtual now. 54 00:02:31,520 --> 00:02:34,080 So this is three years in the making. 55 00:02:34,080 --> 00:02:39,100 Literally on Monday, this past Monday, my patent, which was three years and just building 56 00:02:39,100 --> 00:02:43,160 this patent and working with lawyers in the patent office was finally completed. 57 00:02:43,160 --> 00:02:46,680 I got the allowance on Monday, which is fantastic news. 58 00:02:46,680 --> 00:02:50,360 And I've also found out there are a lot of competitors that are using this technology 59 00:02:50,360 --> 00:02:53,300 that is now patented by Rock Out Loud Live. 60 00:02:53,300 --> 00:02:55,440 So we'll see how we'll handle that. 61 00:02:55,440 --> 00:03:00,760 And then, yes, so that has been three years in the making, July 4th this year. 62 00:03:00,760 --> 00:03:04,400 After about seven or eight weeks of beta testing, we went live. 63 00:03:04,400 --> 00:03:08,680 And I think in the first week we had 400 music schools. 64 00:03:08,680 --> 00:03:13,000 Today we're almost, I think we're a little bit over 100 days out live. 65 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:16,920 We have 93 countries using this. 66 00:03:16,920 --> 00:03:20,480 I think I just posted it today on my Facebook live group. 67 00:03:20,480 --> 00:03:23,360 23,000 users are using this now. 68 00:03:23,360 --> 00:03:28,200 We're hosting about 15 to 20,000 lessons every single week. 69 00:03:28,200 --> 00:03:32,540 And yeah, we have a couple of thousand schools all over the world subscribe with including 70 00:03:32,540 --> 00:03:34,240 students and teachers. 71 00:03:34,240 --> 00:03:35,240 Students aren't even counted. 72 00:03:35,240 --> 00:03:39,680 We're actually only counting the teachers because we have no personal information that 73 00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:41,920 we require from the students whatsoever. 74 00:03:41,920 --> 00:03:45,760 So if one teacher on average teaches 20 kids, think about that. 75 00:03:45,760 --> 00:03:47,320 It's 20 lessons a week per teacher. 76 00:03:47,320 --> 00:03:51,720 If we have thousands of them, if you just do the math, that's an amazing number in such 77 00:03:51,720 --> 00:03:52,720 a short period of time. 78 00:03:52,720 --> 00:03:55,920 I think that's the market saying, hey, we needed something like this. 79 00:03:55,920 --> 00:03:56,920 Totally. 80 00:03:56,920 --> 00:03:57,920 Wow. 81 00:03:57,920 --> 00:03:59,920 Congratulations on your success. 82 00:03:59,920 --> 00:04:00,920 Thank you. 83 00:04:00,920 --> 00:04:01,920 Yeah. 84 00:04:01,920 --> 00:04:07,800 So Rock Out Loud itself is a music school or a music school? 85 00:04:07,800 --> 00:04:08,800 Yes. 86 00:04:08,800 --> 00:04:09,800 Yeah. 87 00:04:09,800 --> 00:04:10,800 Okay. 88 00:04:10,800 --> 00:04:13,280 So I opened up, so I've had the Staten Island School of Rock, which is not associated with 89 00:04:13,280 --> 00:04:14,280 the School Rock franchise. 90 00:04:14,280 --> 00:04:17,200 I've had that now for 16 or 17 years. 91 00:04:17,200 --> 00:04:21,400 And if you ever do the numbers of the School Rock franchise, the only borough in New York 92 00:04:21,400 --> 00:04:24,980 that can't get into a Staten Island is they just can't compete with me. 93 00:04:24,980 --> 00:04:26,600 We have hundreds of students. 94 00:04:26,600 --> 00:04:28,120 Everybody recognizes us. 95 00:04:28,120 --> 00:04:34,080 We've been there forever and they've wanted to work with me and kind of combine schools, 96 00:04:34,080 --> 00:04:35,360 which I'm not going to do. 97 00:04:35,360 --> 00:04:38,800 But they did say if you go to Jersey, which is where my second school has opened up and 98 00:04:38,800 --> 00:04:42,320 you do anything School Rock related there, we'll sue your butt off. 99 00:04:42,320 --> 00:04:47,600 So Rock Out Loud was born a few years ago, which is about two or three years ago. 100 00:04:47,600 --> 00:04:49,680 The name came up and I found the place. 101 00:04:49,680 --> 00:04:51,520 It took me about, it's funny. 102 00:04:51,520 --> 00:04:57,000 It took me three years to actually open and only four or five months to build out the 103 00:04:57,000 --> 00:04:58,000 space. 104 00:04:58,000 --> 00:05:00,240 So I said, well, what was the two and a half extra years? 105 00:05:00,240 --> 00:05:01,440 What was that for? 106 00:05:01,440 --> 00:05:05,640 That's how long it took my landlord to just give me a vanilla box, which the building 107 00:05:05,640 --> 00:05:06,640 was built. 108 00:05:06,640 --> 00:05:07,640 There was another tenant. 109 00:05:07,640 --> 00:05:09,640 It took them two and a half years to give me a vanilla box. 110 00:05:09,640 --> 00:05:14,280 And when they handed me the keys, I said, do you realize Christopher Columbus founded 111 00:05:14,280 --> 00:05:18,720 America sooner than it took for you to give me a vanilla box? 112 00:05:18,720 --> 00:05:21,000 How do you respond to that? 113 00:05:21,000 --> 00:05:23,520 Because that's such a great question. 114 00:05:23,520 --> 00:05:24,840 And they had no answer for that. 115 00:05:24,840 --> 00:05:28,280 So four months later, we opened up in November, November 2nd. 116 00:05:28,280 --> 00:05:31,120 It was great grand opening. 117 00:05:31,120 --> 00:05:33,000 And this build out cost me almost $700,000. 118 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:34,880 The place looks amazing. 119 00:05:34,880 --> 00:05:39,520 If you ever want to see the virtual tour, rockoutloud.com will give you a virtual tour. 120 00:05:39,520 --> 00:05:41,880 It's about 3,600 square feet. 121 00:05:41,880 --> 00:05:44,200 But four months later, we closed. 122 00:05:44,200 --> 00:05:49,000 We closed and we just transitioned naturally over Rock Out Loud Live, which was still in 123 00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:50,000 beta. 124 00:05:50,000 --> 00:05:51,000 All my teachers knew it. 125 00:05:51,000 --> 00:05:52,460 It was a great transition. 126 00:05:52,460 --> 00:05:53,460 It was amazing. 127 00:05:53,460 --> 00:05:56,240 And then that's how this whole thing really snowballed. 128 00:05:56,240 --> 00:05:58,400 So in July 4th, we just released it live. 129 00:05:58,400 --> 00:05:59,400 Wow. 130 00:05:59,400 --> 00:06:00,400 Wow. 131 00:06:00,400 --> 00:06:02,480 Hey, I have a question if I could just jump in. 132 00:06:02,480 --> 00:06:03,480 So I'm really curious. 133 00:06:03,480 --> 00:06:06,200 How did you see this whole online transition coming? 134 00:06:06,200 --> 00:06:08,800 Like, how did you have the foresight to start planning? 135 00:06:08,800 --> 00:06:10,160 That's an amazing question. 136 00:06:10,160 --> 00:06:11,160 I'm a big reader. 137 00:06:11,160 --> 00:06:12,160 I'm a big reader. 138 00:06:12,160 --> 00:06:14,400 And Thinking Grow Rich has always been a book that I've read. 139 00:06:14,400 --> 00:06:15,400 I love Napoleon Hill. 140 00:06:15,400 --> 00:06:16,400 Look at that. 141 00:06:16,400 --> 00:06:17,400 That's awesome. 142 00:06:17,400 --> 00:06:18,400 All right. 143 00:06:18,400 --> 00:06:22,720 And they talk about specialized knowledge. 144 00:06:22,720 --> 00:06:24,620 In one of the chapters, Napoleon Hill. 145 00:06:24,620 --> 00:06:25,960 And I thought about it. 146 00:06:25,960 --> 00:06:29,840 Just think if you wanted to learn how to speak Italian, you go out to Italy and you learn 147 00:06:29,840 --> 00:06:30,840 Italian. 148 00:06:30,840 --> 00:06:33,640 You want to speak Spanish, you go to Spain, you speak Spanish. 149 00:06:33,640 --> 00:06:36,280 But what if you wanted to learn flamenco guitar? 150 00:06:36,280 --> 00:06:43,320 Why do you have to rely on the local music school that maybe just has a blues teacher 151 00:06:43,320 --> 00:06:45,120 who could just teach blues? 152 00:06:45,120 --> 00:06:48,720 And now you have to conform and say, you know, I really wanted to learn flamenco. 153 00:06:48,720 --> 00:06:52,280 But you know, I guess I just got to deal with blues guitar because there's nobody that you 154 00:06:52,280 --> 00:06:54,080 can really find that does flamenco. 155 00:06:54,080 --> 00:06:59,200 But if you can get somebody virtually in a different part of the world to teach you flamenco, 156 00:06:59,200 --> 00:07:01,040 that's how I thought of the specialized knowledge. 157 00:07:01,040 --> 00:07:02,040 You want to learn. 158 00:07:02,040 --> 00:07:06,840 It's, you know, it's like people who go off to a college program overseas to learn the 159 00:07:06,840 --> 00:07:11,840 culture of whether it's Japan or Chile or no matter where it is, that's the best way 160 00:07:11,840 --> 00:07:12,840 to do it. 161 00:07:12,840 --> 00:07:15,340 And how else are you going to do that as a kid? 162 00:07:15,340 --> 00:07:17,640 And it started when I was I was 10 years old. 163 00:07:17,640 --> 00:07:19,480 I wanted to learn guitar. 164 00:07:19,480 --> 00:07:23,240 My dad takes me to this guitar teacher, shows me an Alfred book and I'm like, I want to 165 00:07:23,240 --> 00:07:24,240 learn Led Zeppelin. 166 00:07:24,240 --> 00:07:26,760 The guy's like, sorry, Ruben Ruben first. 167 00:07:26,760 --> 00:07:29,100 I'm like, oh, there goes that idea. 168 00:07:29,100 --> 00:07:31,920 So three years later, I want to learn guitar again. 169 00:07:31,920 --> 00:07:35,600 Mom and dad, they bring me to a guitar teacher and he plays in church. 170 00:07:35,600 --> 00:07:40,360 He's like, we can do kumbaya, my 11 o'clock mass, if you can learn an E major chord. 171 00:07:40,360 --> 00:07:43,200 So that's the end of that guitar lesson. 172 00:07:43,200 --> 00:07:46,120 So at 15 years old, I found this guitar teacher. 173 00:07:46,120 --> 00:07:48,240 He looked like, I don't know if you know who Randy Rhoades is. 174 00:07:48,240 --> 00:07:52,880 He had hair down to his waist and he had 30 guitars in his basement, a full recording 175 00:07:52,880 --> 00:07:53,880 studio. 176 00:07:53,880 --> 00:07:57,560 He taught me Dazed and Confused by Led Zeppelin, my first song. 177 00:07:57,560 --> 00:08:00,360 And I was bit by a bug for 12 to 14 hours a day. 178 00:08:00,360 --> 00:08:04,120 For the rest of my life, I would play guitar for the rest of my life. 179 00:08:04,120 --> 00:08:08,520 It just took finding that one special teacher, that one special coach. 180 00:08:08,520 --> 00:08:13,000 So if that special coach doesn't live in your local music school area, what do you do? 181 00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:15,320 You just give up or you conform. 182 00:08:15,320 --> 00:08:17,080 You don't play flamenco, you play blues. 183 00:08:17,080 --> 00:08:18,080 It's not the way. 184 00:08:18,080 --> 00:08:22,360 So I thought virtual would be a great platform to do that with the tools to provide that 185 00:08:22,360 --> 00:08:24,760 ultimate virtual music lesson experience. 186 00:08:24,760 --> 00:08:25,760 Wow. 187 00:08:25,760 --> 00:08:27,800 That's a great story. 188 00:08:27,800 --> 00:08:28,800 Yeah, totally. 189 00:08:28,800 --> 00:08:29,800 It's beautiful. 190 00:08:29,800 --> 00:08:35,720 So you know what, Eric, why don't you ask some questions about... 191 00:08:35,720 --> 00:08:36,720 Yeah. 192 00:08:36,720 --> 00:08:37,720 Yeah. 193 00:08:37,720 --> 00:08:38,720 Okay. 194 00:08:38,720 --> 00:08:42,400 So Mike, I think, could you talk to us a little bit about what's different about Rocket Lad 195 00:08:42,400 --> 00:08:45,560 Live and how it's superior to Zoom and other options? 196 00:08:45,560 --> 00:08:48,040 Oh my gosh, I love answering this. 197 00:08:48,040 --> 00:08:51,840 If this was about a three day conversation, I could probably answer for four. 198 00:08:51,840 --> 00:08:53,400 But I'll do this as quickly as I can. 199 00:08:53,400 --> 00:08:58,480 So first is, it's super important to understand that Zoom was not built for music coaches, 200 00:08:58,480 --> 00:09:00,920 music teachers, music educators, music institutions. 201 00:09:00,920 --> 00:09:01,920 It's simple. 202 00:09:01,920 --> 00:09:04,040 They're built for board meetings and conference rooms. 203 00:09:04,040 --> 00:09:09,600 So besides being the most successful failure in music, which I am, I'm also a chief technology 204 00:09:09,600 --> 00:09:15,440 officer and a certified hacker for a company on Park Avenue in New York City, the Financial 205 00:09:15,440 --> 00:09:16,440 firm. 206 00:09:16,440 --> 00:09:17,440 So I know technology. 207 00:09:17,440 --> 00:09:22,680 I also know how Zoom works because whenever we do a boardroom meeting with Zoom, it's basically 208 00:09:22,680 --> 00:09:24,760 a presentation in PowerPoint. 209 00:09:24,760 --> 00:09:29,120 And then we all call in on a Polycom because the audio is just so awful. 210 00:09:29,120 --> 00:09:35,040 So when you have these Zoom conversations, you pull up a PowerPoint presentation, it's 211 00:09:35,040 --> 00:09:36,460 all for that video. 212 00:09:36,460 --> 00:09:40,960 You really don't care if the audio cuts out because you might be looking at some slides. 213 00:09:40,960 --> 00:09:41,960 I reverse that. 214 00:09:41,960 --> 00:09:47,120 So the big difference here is I went from concentrating on video to concentrating on 215 00:09:47,120 --> 00:09:48,120 audio. 216 00:09:48,120 --> 00:09:52,720 And audio takes precedence where video degrades if you have a poor internet connection. 217 00:09:52,720 --> 00:09:57,800 So to me, that was the ultimate experience is making sure audio comes through. 218 00:09:57,800 --> 00:10:03,360 And the next thing I wanted to really focus on was what the real problem is with virtual 219 00:10:03,360 --> 00:10:04,720 music lessons. 220 00:10:04,720 --> 00:10:08,160 It's not the student, it's not the teacher, it's not the virtual music lessons, it's not 221 00:10:08,160 --> 00:10:09,520 being in front of them. 222 00:10:09,520 --> 00:10:10,720 It's the mom and dad. 223 00:10:10,720 --> 00:10:14,520 I think parents are the worst thing that ever happened to music lessons. 224 00:10:14,520 --> 00:10:18,240 And I could just picture you guys getting these hate mail and messages. 225 00:10:18,240 --> 00:10:19,240 Look at that. 226 00:10:19,240 --> 00:10:24,560 Everybody's like, I'm going to tell you why parents are the killer of virtual music lessons. 227 00:10:24,560 --> 00:10:26,120 Mom and dad, this is the reason. 228 00:10:26,120 --> 00:10:30,600 After we have the most incredible music lesson with your son or daughter, the first thing 229 00:10:30,600 --> 00:10:34,760 we say is we're going to say, Sally, we're going to email mom and dad that lesson and 230 00:10:34,760 --> 00:10:36,000 mom is going to print it out. 231 00:10:36,000 --> 00:10:37,440 You're going to practice the whole weekend. 232 00:10:37,440 --> 00:10:39,420 Boy, it's going to be amazing. 233 00:10:39,420 --> 00:10:42,840 Next week, we're just going to take part two of this lesson. 234 00:10:42,840 --> 00:10:46,680 So what happens is, well, mom and dad's printer is broken. 235 00:10:46,680 --> 00:10:47,680 We got caught in spam. 236 00:10:47,680 --> 00:10:48,680 They didn't check their email. 237 00:10:48,680 --> 00:10:49,680 Oh, I was so busy. 238 00:10:49,680 --> 00:10:52,840 I'm so sorry to get a chance to give them that lesson. 239 00:10:52,840 --> 00:10:56,740 And then the next week would roll around and little Timmy or Sally doesn't practice. 240 00:10:56,740 --> 00:10:58,720 And then you get that dreaded phone call. 241 00:10:58,720 --> 00:11:02,240 Well, you know, a child just doesn't practice anymore. 242 00:11:02,240 --> 00:11:03,920 He's just not interested. 243 00:11:03,920 --> 00:11:05,560 He's not showing any interest. 244 00:11:05,560 --> 00:11:07,800 And we're going to wait until we go back in person. 245 00:11:07,800 --> 00:11:10,080 I said, maybe that's not a problem. 246 00:11:10,080 --> 00:11:14,000 Maybe the problem is the parent not giving your child the lesson. 247 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:15,320 That to me is the problem. 248 00:11:15,320 --> 00:11:17,600 So we remove mom and dad. 249 00:11:17,600 --> 00:11:22,400 Maybe we can make these virtual music lessons really, really happen. 250 00:11:22,400 --> 00:11:24,280 So it's exactly what I did. 251 00:11:24,280 --> 00:11:30,760 I created, which was patented on Monday, the ability to upload a PDF in real time in front 252 00:11:30,760 --> 00:11:36,680 of your student in seconds and have them download it on any one of their devices. 253 00:11:36,680 --> 00:11:41,160 So if they have a mobile phone and they use the rock out loud app, it basically download 254 00:11:41,160 --> 00:11:43,400 the music, which I'll pull up now. 255 00:11:43,400 --> 00:11:45,080 It is awesome. 256 00:11:45,080 --> 00:11:49,440 So let me pull up what it looks like and I'll hopefully be able to see this visually. 257 00:11:49,440 --> 00:11:51,240 So this is the application. 258 00:11:51,240 --> 00:11:56,320 So if I pulled up for release and somebody wanted to learn for release on my application, 259 00:11:56,320 --> 00:11:59,280 right there is for release on the student's mobile phone. 260 00:11:59,280 --> 00:12:00,280 You have three options. 261 00:12:00,280 --> 00:12:02,240 Those icons are a video icon. 262 00:12:02,240 --> 00:12:05,200 So if you wanted to see your teacher, you click that then the cord icon. 263 00:12:05,200 --> 00:12:08,880 If you want to select the cords, you can see that and all the cords will appear that this 264 00:12:08,880 --> 00:12:10,560 teacher provides. 265 00:12:10,560 --> 00:12:13,600 And then there's the sheet music and a little button right over there. 266 00:12:13,600 --> 00:12:16,740 You download that and that downloads your music lesson. 267 00:12:16,740 --> 00:12:20,700 So we wanted to remove the parents from the equation entirely. 268 00:12:20,700 --> 00:12:24,320 And by doing that and giving them the tool, that student downloads it and that goes right 269 00:12:24,320 --> 00:12:29,040 to their computer, their MacBook, their Chromebook, their PC, their Android, their iPad, their 270 00:12:29,040 --> 00:12:30,920 iPhone, every single device. 271 00:12:30,920 --> 00:12:37,000 So we actually have testimonials of four or five year old kids on their iPad because that's 272 00:12:37,000 --> 00:12:38,480 where it's going these days. 273 00:12:38,480 --> 00:12:40,280 Everybody's got their iPads, practicing guitar. 274 00:12:40,280 --> 00:12:42,760 This little kid Dean, it was amazing. 275 00:12:42,760 --> 00:12:45,600 So kids are better with technology anyway. 276 00:12:45,600 --> 00:12:46,600 Yeah, absolutely. 277 00:12:46,600 --> 00:12:49,600 I hate to say this, but it's true. 278 00:12:49,600 --> 00:12:51,960 We're so fast on catching up. 279 00:12:51,960 --> 00:12:54,040 Back support for their parents. 280 00:12:54,040 --> 00:12:55,760 That's exactly right. 281 00:12:55,760 --> 00:13:01,400 So by doing that, we've really removed such a big pain point and we noticed that we had 282 00:13:01,400 --> 00:13:06,280 such a smooth transition to virtual lessons because kids, like they were coming to your 283 00:13:06,280 --> 00:13:10,660 studios would walk out with a lesson except for this time it was just digital. 284 00:13:10,660 --> 00:13:11,780 That was the next thing. 285 00:13:11,780 --> 00:13:14,780 We also offer features like song searches. 286 00:13:14,780 --> 00:13:19,520 We can search, as piano teachers especially, can search 1.8 million songs, Ferro Elise 287 00:13:19,520 --> 00:13:23,800 being one of them, pulls up immediately into the portal and shows up right there in real 288 00:13:23,800 --> 00:13:26,040 time with your student. 289 00:13:26,040 --> 00:13:30,000 We also have the ability to make this as simple for your student as possible. 290 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:35,320 I knew that going from Zoom and Skype and WebEx and FaceTime to over to Rock Out Loud, 291 00:13:35,320 --> 00:13:41,280 we had to make it simple because nobody wants to go out and register for their new program, 292 00:13:41,280 --> 00:13:42,920 the new application. 293 00:13:42,920 --> 00:13:43,920 Parents have to get involved. 294 00:13:43,920 --> 00:13:44,920 They have to submit a form. 295 00:13:44,920 --> 00:13:46,200 Then they have to go to their email. 296 00:13:46,200 --> 00:13:47,720 Then they have to activate it. 297 00:13:47,720 --> 00:13:49,320 Then they have to log in for their child. 298 00:13:49,320 --> 00:13:52,840 It's like, oh my gosh, you can't do it again because this was tough. 299 00:13:52,840 --> 00:13:58,840 Music teachers were really thrown right into the fire on March 16th. 300 00:13:58,840 --> 00:13:59,920 We all had to figure it out. 301 00:13:59,920 --> 00:14:01,640 I knew it had to be simple. 302 00:14:01,640 --> 00:14:04,320 We don't ask for any personal information. 303 00:14:04,320 --> 00:14:05,800 You all join my call. 304 00:14:05,800 --> 00:14:09,200 If you recall, Eric, you just typed in your name, you joined the room. 305 00:14:09,200 --> 00:14:10,200 That was it. 306 00:14:10,200 --> 00:14:11,200 It was super easy. 307 00:14:11,200 --> 00:14:14,160 You didn't have to go out and register and fill out an activation code or any of that 308 00:14:14,160 --> 00:14:15,160 stuff. 309 00:14:15,160 --> 00:14:20,720 These are really important things as part of keeping this experience very free flowing, 310 00:14:20,720 --> 00:14:24,880 doing the parents and having the students to have that ability to get that ultimate 311 00:14:24,880 --> 00:14:25,880 virtual music lesson. 312 00:14:25,880 --> 00:14:27,760 I think we fulfilled that. 313 00:14:27,760 --> 00:14:28,760 Right. 314 00:14:28,760 --> 00:14:31,200 So Mike, can I ask a question? 315 00:14:31,200 --> 00:14:36,480 I've been trying it out for a couple of weeks. 316 00:14:36,480 --> 00:14:40,720 One thing I noticed, maybe I'm not doing it right. 317 00:14:40,720 --> 00:14:44,200 When you share music, you can only share PDF. 318 00:14:44,200 --> 00:14:49,280 Oftentimes I send my students, where they have their music books in their score, they 319 00:14:49,280 --> 00:14:51,320 would take a picture and send to me. 320 00:14:51,320 --> 00:14:53,600 So normally on Zoom, I would just share that. 321 00:14:53,600 --> 00:14:57,480 But right now when I share, it seems like I lose my face. 322 00:14:57,480 --> 00:15:01,040 All of a sudden they would tell me that you turn into the music. 323 00:15:01,040 --> 00:15:05,480 Or if I share the PDF, I have to convert into PDF. 324 00:15:05,480 --> 00:15:08,480 Is that how it works? 325 00:15:08,480 --> 00:15:11,400 So I'm so glad you brought that up, Clara. 326 00:15:11,400 --> 00:15:14,200 The reason why I'm glad you brought that up is because I listen. 327 00:15:14,200 --> 00:15:16,200 People have asked the same exact question. 328 00:15:16,200 --> 00:15:20,560 Unlike Zoom, after four months you get an email that says, hey, you still having a problem 329 00:15:20,560 --> 00:15:22,560 with this issue that you had? 330 00:15:22,560 --> 00:15:23,560 If not, let us know. 331 00:15:23,560 --> 00:15:24,560 We're going to close the ticket. 332 00:15:24,560 --> 00:15:28,600 I took that and I went back to my developers and I said, let's create a whiteboard. 333 00:15:28,600 --> 00:15:34,240 Let's import PDFs or images or JPEGs or whatever it is the teacher wants into the lesson without 334 00:15:34,240 --> 00:15:35,800 sharing a screen. 335 00:15:35,800 --> 00:15:40,200 Then let's be able to annotate that right there in the lesson without sharing a screen. 336 00:15:40,200 --> 00:15:43,160 And then what if we remove the parents again? 337 00:15:43,160 --> 00:15:47,520 Because unlike Zoom, when you share a screen and then you pull up an image and then you 338 00:15:47,520 --> 00:15:52,320 annotate, then you have to connect that image with the picture in the image and create a 339 00:15:52,320 --> 00:15:54,360 file and then you have to email it. 340 00:15:54,360 --> 00:15:56,400 We've removed that entire process. 341 00:15:56,400 --> 00:15:58,680 So let's say your student sends you something. 342 00:15:58,680 --> 00:16:01,960 You can pull it up in your whiteboard, which is in your screen and your picture of you 343 00:16:01,960 --> 00:16:04,200 and your student appear in the bottom right. 344 00:16:04,200 --> 00:16:09,400 Pull up that, annotate it, and then your student has a big download button that can download 345 00:16:09,400 --> 00:16:13,080 it right there into their experience so they don't have to worry about an email anymore. 346 00:16:13,080 --> 00:16:15,000 So they can have all of that. 347 00:16:15,000 --> 00:16:16,080 That's the annotation feature. 348 00:16:16,080 --> 00:16:21,040 That feature is coming out hopefully next week and it's all for the paid subscribers. 349 00:16:21,040 --> 00:16:22,720 Okay, got it. 350 00:16:22,720 --> 00:16:23,720 I have not tried that yet. 351 00:16:23,720 --> 00:16:24,720 Great question. 352 00:16:24,720 --> 00:16:26,720 Yeah, thank you so much for answering. 353 00:16:26,720 --> 00:16:31,880 Yeah, Mike, I wanted to ask you, can you talk a little bit about duets? 354 00:16:31,880 --> 00:16:36,240 Because that is really the promised land when it comes to virtual lessons, right? 355 00:16:36,240 --> 00:16:39,240 Yes, I'm very glad we're going to talk about that. 356 00:16:39,240 --> 00:16:45,000 Duet technology, enhanced audio recognition technology, it's based around peer to peer 357 00:16:45,000 --> 00:16:46,000 connection. 358 00:16:46,000 --> 00:16:50,960 It's also, it's limited in terms of what you can do. 359 00:16:50,960 --> 00:16:52,880 You cannot do more than two people. 360 00:16:52,880 --> 00:16:56,120 It's got to be person to person. 361 00:16:56,120 --> 00:16:58,400 There is no such thing as no latency, zero latency. 362 00:16:58,400 --> 00:17:01,620 I just want to make sure everybody's on the same page here. 363 00:17:01,620 --> 00:17:04,680 You can't get rid of latency unless you're right in front of that person. 364 00:17:04,680 --> 00:17:09,400 So unless you want to defy physics, there's no such thing as no zero latency. 365 00:17:09,400 --> 00:17:13,320 However, we will be able to offer the least amount of latency possible. 366 00:17:13,320 --> 00:17:15,880 And I'll explain to you how it works. 367 00:17:15,880 --> 00:17:20,860 Peer to peer networking is my computer attaches to your computer, Eric, for example, and we 368 00:17:20,860 --> 00:17:22,200 connect like this. 369 00:17:22,200 --> 00:17:23,920 There's no media server. 370 00:17:23,920 --> 00:17:28,280 So what that does is it creates the least amount of lag or the least amount of hops 371 00:17:28,280 --> 00:17:33,440 that you can go from point A to point B. So if you have something like Zoom or Skype, 372 00:17:33,440 --> 00:17:37,760 they all use media service, which means you connect your computer to a media server in 373 00:17:37,760 --> 00:17:38,840 the cloud. 374 00:17:38,840 --> 00:17:42,080 And then Eric, you'll connect your computer to a media server in the cloud, and then you'll 375 00:17:42,080 --> 00:17:44,240 redistribute that signal. 376 00:17:44,240 --> 00:17:49,880 So just there, you're increasing more latency because you have more path that you have, 377 00:17:49,880 --> 00:17:53,080 you know, you have to basically go from hop one to hop two to hop three. 378 00:17:53,080 --> 00:17:58,680 So just, yeah, so just exactly just by removing one of those out of the equation, you've just 379 00:17:58,680 --> 00:18:01,120 removed, let's call it 20% latency. 380 00:18:01,120 --> 00:18:04,800 I don't know that exact number, but you're removing a significant amount of latency. 381 00:18:04,800 --> 00:18:09,520 So just by the fear, the mere fact of creating peer to peer networking, you're going to reduce 382 00:18:09,520 --> 00:18:11,840 that latency significantly. 383 00:18:11,840 --> 00:18:17,240 The next thing that we've done is we removed any ability to have, there's no compression, 384 00:18:17,240 --> 00:18:18,800 there's no EQ, there's nothing. 385 00:18:18,800 --> 00:18:24,360 It's a raw signal that goes from point A to point B, giving you that HD audio. 386 00:18:24,360 --> 00:18:28,640 So depending on your equipment, if you have a USB mic and a good set of headphones, you're 387 00:18:28,640 --> 00:18:31,240 going to get an amazing experience. 388 00:18:31,240 --> 00:18:36,200 And what we also offered with this particular feature is the ability to measure all of your 389 00:18:36,200 --> 00:18:38,560 statistics network wise. 390 00:18:38,560 --> 00:18:43,040 So when you connect on a call, you'll be able to determine the exact amount of latency you're 391 00:18:43,040 --> 00:18:45,080 going to expect as a teacher. 392 00:18:45,080 --> 00:18:47,520 And that's called E2E RTT. 393 00:18:47,520 --> 00:18:51,680 So if you hover over your students image, and you go to the top left corner, there is 394 00:18:51,680 --> 00:18:56,720 a Wi Fi symbol, and that icon gives you all the statistics of your students network. 395 00:18:56,720 --> 00:19:01,760 And that's incredibly important because whenever you connect, you don't know if it's your computer, 396 00:19:01,760 --> 00:19:06,000 your Wi Fi, your students computer, your students Wi Fi, you don't know if someone's on Netflix, 397 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:10,960 but all of these statistics, and they're on our user guide, are there to help you try 398 00:19:10,960 --> 00:19:15,180 to figure out where you sit on your experience. 399 00:19:15,180 --> 00:19:17,720 If you have poor network connectivity, you'll know that immediately. 400 00:19:17,720 --> 00:19:21,640 And you might say, hey, Tim, could you ask your brother to stop playing Xbox? 401 00:19:21,640 --> 00:19:22,960 Or is somebody watching Netflix? 402 00:19:22,960 --> 00:19:25,920 Because those are the things that will really help you. 403 00:19:25,920 --> 00:19:33,240 But back to the duets, the E2E RTT is a very, very important statistic for your network. 404 00:19:33,240 --> 00:19:38,960 E2E RTT means end to end round trip time. 405 00:19:38,960 --> 00:19:43,520 That means those milliseconds are the amount of milliseconds it's taking from your computer 406 00:19:43,520 --> 00:19:47,120 to their computer, from their computer back to your computer. 407 00:19:47,120 --> 00:19:52,880 So if you can use those to judge how badly or how good your latency is going to be, that's 408 00:19:52,880 --> 00:19:54,440 going to determine your experience. 409 00:19:54,440 --> 00:20:00,720 So Microsoft deems 20 to 40 milliseconds for round trip time being optimal for people playing 410 00:20:00,720 --> 00:20:01,720 video games. 411 00:20:01,720 --> 00:20:07,800 So if you're playing Xbox, those milliseconds when you shoot somebody in card, those are 412 00:20:07,800 --> 00:20:13,520 the milliseconds that Microsoft's determined to be a great experience, optimal, 20 to 40. 413 00:20:13,520 --> 00:20:14,780 I am in New Jersey. 414 00:20:14,780 --> 00:20:19,240 And I can tell you I've had between 11 and 19 milliseconds for people in the New Jersey 415 00:20:19,240 --> 00:20:22,900 area who are up to about 50, 60 miles away. 416 00:20:22,900 --> 00:20:28,400 And that latency was so minute that, yeah, I heard it, but it was not bad. 417 00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:30,000 It was not something I couldn't deal with. 418 00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:33,160 But it made such an amazing experience. 419 00:20:33,160 --> 00:20:37,480 And the last thing I'll end with is when the teacher starts performing and the student 420 00:20:37,480 --> 00:20:39,960 plays along, there is zero latency. 421 00:20:39,960 --> 00:20:42,240 And it will be in HD quality. 422 00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:46,020 So it's all about giving that ultimate lesson to your music student. 423 00:20:46,020 --> 00:20:47,020 This is what it's about. 424 00:20:47,020 --> 00:20:50,200 So your teacher starts, the student plays along. 425 00:20:50,200 --> 00:20:52,840 That student doesn't know if you're in that room or not in that room. 426 00:20:52,840 --> 00:20:55,560 So that's an amazing accomplishment, I think. 427 00:20:55,560 --> 00:20:59,960 And you get to hear the ability of going back and forth without squashing, without that 428 00:20:59,960 --> 00:21:02,800 underwater gobble sound, which drives me mad. 429 00:21:02,800 --> 00:21:03,800 Oh, me too. 430 00:21:03,800 --> 00:21:06,480 Yeah, we all have experience with that. 431 00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:07,920 Yeah, that's all gone. 432 00:21:07,920 --> 00:21:08,920 That's all gone. 433 00:21:08,920 --> 00:21:09,920 Amazing. 434 00:21:09,920 --> 00:21:18,600 Now, so when you try to use Rock Out Live, do we all have to have the app to do it or 435 00:21:18,600 --> 00:21:23,520 can we use like a Google Chrome or something? 436 00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:24,520 That's a great question. 437 00:21:24,520 --> 00:21:28,960 I'm so glad you brought that up because not 99% of the time, 100% of the time that there 438 00:21:28,960 --> 00:21:31,760 is something that doesn't work in our application. 439 00:21:31,760 --> 00:21:35,840 It's simply because you're not using Google Chrome as a web browser on a PC, on a Mac, 440 00:21:35,840 --> 00:21:38,000 on a laptop, on a Chromebook. 441 00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:42,640 Or you're not using the app that's made for the mobile applications, which are all free, 442 00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:43,640 by the way. 443 00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:47,760 So on the Google Play Store and in the Apple Store, it's a free app. 444 00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:48,760 That's the Rock Out Loud app. 445 00:21:48,760 --> 00:21:54,120 And that Rock Out Loud app for the phone allows you to switch between icons, video icon, chord 446 00:21:54,120 --> 00:21:55,880 icon, sheet music icon. 447 00:21:55,880 --> 00:22:00,640 And we've made it that way because when you're actually taking a lesson on a mobile device, 448 00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:05,600 we've made it so you can read the actual sheet music without disabling the camera and the 449 00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:09,880 teacher can focus on the technique while the student is reading the piece of music. 450 00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:12,640 There's no need for the student to see the teacher at that point. 451 00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:16,360 You want the focus on that music and that app allows you to do that. 452 00:22:16,360 --> 00:22:22,200 So 100% of the time, if there are audio issues, there are lag issues, it's 100% of the time 453 00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:28,000 not using Google Chrome and they're not using the app. 454 00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:30,600 And since we're here, we're talking about concerts. 455 00:22:30,600 --> 00:22:34,160 I've been doing a lot of concerts and we normally do it on Zoom. 456 00:22:34,160 --> 00:22:35,520 So we're trying it out. 457 00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:39,340 The next one, we want to try it on Rock Out Loud. 458 00:22:39,340 --> 00:22:42,320 So right now I'm trying to figure out a few things. 459 00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:48,660 Is there a way we can spotlight the main performer like what Zoom does? 460 00:22:48,660 --> 00:22:51,880 And also sometimes they do these lecture recitals, right? 461 00:22:51,880 --> 00:22:55,700 So I want to see the student as well as what they're showing. 462 00:22:55,700 --> 00:22:57,520 Is there a thing? 463 00:22:57,520 --> 00:23:04,480 So right now for recitals, we found that the best experience with recitals is muting everybody. 464 00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:07,960 And it's important to know that when you have it, because we can hold up to 35 people in 465 00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:08,960 a class. 466 00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:14,040 If you don't have the ability to mute everybody, because we have full duplex, unlike Zoom, 467 00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:17,480 which is sort of like half duplex, which is like a walkie talkie, you press a button, 468 00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:19,720 you speak, you release the button, you listen. 469 00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:22,740 But with us, we're full duplex, so we hear all the noise. 470 00:23:22,740 --> 00:23:26,100 So you might have headphones on and a great mic, which is excellent, but you might have 471 00:23:26,100 --> 00:23:28,980 a loud air conditioner or a ceiling fan on. 472 00:23:28,980 --> 00:23:33,400 That is getting picked up and that's going to go through all 35 people on the phone call, 473 00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:34,400 the video call. 474 00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:36,900 So you mute everybody except for that person. 475 00:23:36,900 --> 00:23:42,560 So yes, that person just generally, because they're speaking, will be presented as the 476 00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:43,560 presenter. 477 00:23:43,560 --> 00:23:47,800 But the students have the ability to toggle into tile view and put everybody into tile. 478 00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:51,380 So you might want to push them into that, but the student on the other side can just 479 00:23:51,380 --> 00:23:54,720 simply hit toggle view to see everybody in the group. 480 00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:57,800 The teacher, however, can make themselves the presenter only. 481 00:23:57,800 --> 00:24:00,520 They can't make somebody else a presenter unless they wanted to. 482 00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:01,520 I see. 483 00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:03,440 Ultimately, it's in the hands of that. 484 00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:09,440 But there's another feature that we've created that somebody, Ian Veloso of Simply Music 485 00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:10,560 pointed out. 486 00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:14,200 To be honest with you, I created this feature because a lot of those folks with the acoustic 487 00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:20,320 pianos and you all know who you are as I look at you guys, sometimes it's just so loud. 488 00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:25,800 There are in the Rock Out Loud Live application, there are little volume controls on every 489 00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:27,400 single person's video. 490 00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:33,000 So I could change and create mixes of everybody on my call individually. 491 00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:35,360 So if your piano is too loud, I can lower you. 492 00:24:35,360 --> 00:24:40,080 And if your vocals need to be brought up, I can maybe make the other people lower just 493 00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:42,160 so I can get that real perfect mix. 494 00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:45,040 But when you're doing groups, you would mute everybody. 495 00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:48,040 And based on privacy rules, they have to unmute themselves. 496 00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:52,640 But then you'd get the ability to really hear the sound of Rock Out Loud Live compared to 497 00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:59,200 Zoom because we have this full spectrum of audio where Zoom, even if you enable original 498 00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:04,640 sound, which they say works, it still compresses the upper and the lower registers. 499 00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:08,200 So if someone's playing piano and you have the lower end and you have the higher end, 500 00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:11,000 you're not going to get those frequencies, especially to work so well. 501 00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:15,400 So I would encourage you to mute everybody on the call and just hear what that sounds 502 00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:19,320 like because the other people on the phone call don't have to worry about headphones. 503 00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:22,280 They don't have to worry about ceiling fans and background noise. 504 00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:23,280 You've muted them all. 505 00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:26,160 You're only hearing the performer and it's an amazing experience. 506 00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:28,160 That was a great question, Clare. 507 00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:29,160 Yeah, that's great. 508 00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:30,480 Yeah, we're going to try it out. 509 00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:31,480 So hopefully. 510 00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:33,960 But definitely we cannot share the music yet. 511 00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:37,760 But I'm looking forward for that to be added in the future. 512 00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:38,760 Yes, absolutely. 513 00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:39,760 Great. 514 00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:45,840 So I was wondering, you know, as piano teachers, oftentimes I like to have, can you see it 515 00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:46,840 over here? 516 00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:51,560 It's not in the picture, but I have those little stands here so I can do a camera over 517 00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:53,280 my hands when I'm demonstrating. 518 00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:57,280 How do we do a multi-camera setup like that on Rock Out Loud? 519 00:25:57,280 --> 00:25:59,160 Well, we could do it a couple of ways. 520 00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:03,800 We have the ability to, right next to the lead button is a video camera button. 521 00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:06,720 You can toggle your cameras there. 522 00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:08,440 People have used OBS as well. 523 00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:11,480 They connect OBS, which is an amazing experience with OBS. 524 00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:13,120 So OBS is a little difficult. 525 00:26:13,120 --> 00:26:15,240 There's a tough learning curve. 526 00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:19,640 But once you get past that, man, it's a great way to use Rock Out Loud Live. 527 00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:23,680 I can tell you that in the works, and it could be three to six months from now, but it is 528 00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:24,840 going to be in the works. 529 00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:31,720 I signed the sign off for the project a few weeks ago, and that's the ability to add multiple 530 00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:35,600 cameras at the same time inside the Rock Out Loud Live experience. 531 00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:39,560 Just like you have the whiteboard is inside, we wanted to keep everything inside so you'd 532 00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:40,960 be able to use multiple cameras. 533 00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:42,760 You'll have some scenes. 534 00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:47,120 You'll be able to put splashes sort of like Manicam does without using all of the resources. 535 00:26:47,120 --> 00:26:54,760 Lots of things like Manicam, they really overextended the need of all of the things they throw 536 00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:57,560 in everything, emojis, characters. 537 00:26:57,560 --> 00:26:58,680 You don't need that as music teachers. 538 00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:04,000 You basically need a way to put in more screen options, choice options for your fingers, 539 00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:08,120 left hand, right hand, overhead, and your head and your face. 540 00:27:08,120 --> 00:27:09,320 So that's hopefully coming. 541 00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:12,440 So that's the one thing about Rock Out Loud Live is going to be growing. 542 00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:17,160 What you saw July 4th looks totally different is what it looks now. 543 00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:19,880 And in two weeks, it'll look different again with the whiteboard. 544 00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:23,880 And then it's going to look different again in six months because we keep adding features 545 00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:28,520 to make that music lesson better and better and better. 546 00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:33,480 It's fantastic that you're really making this platform for music lessons exclusively. 547 00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:34,480 Yeah. 548 00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:39,160 Not like you're building this for this kind of meetings or that, but it's really exclusively 549 00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:41,000 for music teachers and students. 550 00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:42,440 So it's wonderful. 551 00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:43,440 You want to hear something funny? 552 00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:45,880 I have a guitar teacher who's also a doctor. 553 00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:46,880 He's an MD. 554 00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:49,880 He's using Rock Out Loud Live for his patients. 555 00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:53,080 And I said, what in the world? 556 00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:57,800 Are you diagnosing them with high blood pressure and then pulling out your acoustic guitar? 557 00:27:57,800 --> 00:28:02,840 So he said to me, what he's doing is he has a call with them and then he uploads as a 558 00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:07,440 PDF their prescription and they download it right to their phone, go right to their pharmacy. 559 00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:09,160 And that's all they do. 560 00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:10,440 So they don't have to worry. 561 00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:13,760 It's amazing because some pharmacies don't accept anything other than the physical. 562 00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:15,160 And that's what they do. 563 00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:16,880 They go with their phone. 564 00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:21,400 And then there was a Bible study group I heard are now using this for Bible study. 565 00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:25,280 And I said, what in the world are you using it for Bible study for? 566 00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:31,320 Because Zoom and Skype and WebEx is so difficult with the registration for older folks. 567 00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:36,560 The Bible study people are generally be in their late 60s, early 70s to 90s and they 568 00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:38,320 don't know technology. 569 00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:43,680 So all they do is they upload the hymns or the scripts or the scripture right there in 570 00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:47,780 the lesson, in the lesson, in the video, and they download it and they're done. 571 00:28:47,780 --> 00:28:51,720 So they don't have to worry about checking their email and enabling original sound because 572 00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:53,840 they can hear the person preaching. 573 00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:56,320 It's amazing what people they're using it for. 574 00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:59,920 But yeah, it's it's it's expanding beyond music lessons. 575 00:28:59,920 --> 00:29:02,440 But my focus is on music lessons. 576 00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:03,440 Wonderful. 577 00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:04,440 Great. 578 00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:05,760 That is really great. 579 00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:06,760 Yeah. 580 00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:11,640 And that brings me to my actually last question that there is currently no break rooms. 581 00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:12,640 Correct. 582 00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:13,640 I have and there won't be. 583 00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:14,640 That's a great. 584 00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:15,640 There will be. 585 00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:16,640 Okay. 586 00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:17,640 They're not going to be. 587 00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:18,640 That's the reason why we're not going to do it. 588 00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:19,640 I see. 589 00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:20,640 Let me. 590 00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:25,240 So let me explain quickly how it's so important for me to preserve preserve the audio bandwidth 591 00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:26,720 when you connect peer to peer. 592 00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:31,200 That's the ultimate virtual music lesson experience because there's no media service. 593 00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:34,980 The moment you add things like breakout rooms, you add media servers. 594 00:29:34,980 --> 00:29:39,600 And to me, that's unwanted usage of bandwidth, which that basically means the bandwidth got 595 00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:40,600 to come from something. 596 00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:43,320 Well, we've already capped out the video bandwidth. 597 00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:46,960 But if we're going to start now working with the audio bandwidth and starting sucking some 598 00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:51,560 of that bandwidth out for audio recordings, which we're not doing any recordings or breakout 599 00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:56,080 rooms, which we're not offering breakout rooms, it's going to be less of an experience and 600 00:29:56,080 --> 00:29:59,720 more like a zoom experience, which we don't want to do. 601 00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:03,600 We want to make sure that we preserve that audio stream. 602 00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:08,440 And we've tried three or four different applications who said that they don't they don't affect 603 00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:09,760 the audio stream. 604 00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:13,640 But all of our tests found that in fact it does affect the audio stream. 605 00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:17,280 So until there's something that can make it where it doesn't, which I don't think it will, 606 00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:20,600 we're not going to be doing breakout rooms and we're not going to be doing video recordings. 607 00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:21,600 Got it. 608 00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:22,600 All right. 609 00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:26,080 So you're not sacrificing anything just for the music. 610 00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:27,080 Exactly. 611 00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:28,080 I love it. 612 00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:29,080 Yeah, I really appreciate that. 613 00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:31,320 Students are very excited with the duets. 614 00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:32,320 So yeah. 615 00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:33,320 Yes. 616 00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:36,480 Mike, if you have a student that seems to have a poor connection, what are some things 617 00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:38,800 we can do to deal with that during the lesson? 618 00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:39,960 I love these questions. 619 00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:43,880 So the best part is, is you're able to see these statistics before the lesson starts. 620 00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:46,440 So this way you can at least navigate to a couple of things. 621 00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:48,520 The bit rate tells you the bandwidth. 622 00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:54,080 So when you see the statistic of a bit rate less than 2000, that basically means that 623 00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:55,560 there's something going on with the network. 624 00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:57,560 But it could be a lot of things. 625 00:30:57,560 --> 00:31:01,160 Like I said earlier, it could be that their brother is taking a zoom call for their English 626 00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:04,960 class or for their social studies class, and that could consume bandwidth. 627 00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:07,560 Or they might have a problem with their Wi-Fi. 628 00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:10,640 They might want to get closer to their access point. 629 00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:13,800 Or if they're playing piano and they can't, you might want to see if someone's streaming 630 00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:14,800 Netflix. 631 00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:16,100 There's a lot of these things. 632 00:31:16,100 --> 00:31:20,400 But most of all, sometimes people don't even realize that if they have their email application 633 00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:26,160 open, Gmail, Yahoo, Outlook, whatever it is, email literally checks every 15 to 30 seconds 634 00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:27,160 for another email. 635 00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:32,400 So naturally, that's going to require bandwidth up and down, polling to see if a new email 636 00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:33,400 comes in. 637 00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:36,480 And if someone sends you an email attachment, well, then that's going to take some more 638 00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:37,480 bandwidth too. 639 00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:39,720 And that could affect your lesson. 640 00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:40,720 Also packet loss. 641 00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:45,120 We have the ability to check packet loss, which indicates more of a hardware issue, 642 00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:47,280 like if your router is dropping the packets. 643 00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:49,520 So you can ask them to reset their router. 644 00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:51,480 So all these things really come into play. 645 00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:55,640 So it's important to know that those are some of the things which we have on our user guide 646 00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:57,680 in terms of troubleshooting. 647 00:31:57,680 --> 00:32:00,580 So we have a user guide, which is super intuitive. 648 00:32:00,580 --> 00:32:05,720 You type in the problem like Wi-Fi and everything related to Wi-Fi issues appears right there. 649 00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:09,380 You can walk out and do it with your student, go over everything. 650 00:32:09,380 --> 00:32:14,280 But one thing that I can tell you that there is not another application that has in the 651 00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:19,960 world to date is live telephone support for your paid subscribers. 652 00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:21,760 So let me give you an example. 653 00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:24,400 Eric, you're on a call with a student, you have no problem. 654 00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:29,000 You can call our live technical support, which happens to be my music coaches who've been 655 00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:31,600 using this application since inception. 656 00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:35,320 They'll pick up the phone, they'll walk you and or your student through it. 657 00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:39,040 They'll even connect to your room just to make sure that your room ID and everything 658 00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:43,240 else is working perfectly and make sure that that lesson gets fixed. 659 00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:47,120 Because the last thing we want is any teacher saying, can we make this lesson up or I'll 660 00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:48,640 refund your money? 661 00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:50,960 I think that that's the worst thing in the world. 662 00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:53,600 So they have live tech support, not just a trouble ticket. 663 00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:54,600 This is for paid subscribers. 664 00:32:54,600 --> 00:33:02,660 I mean, our packages start at $9.95 a month, no cancellation fees, cancel anytime. 665 00:33:02,660 --> 00:33:07,560 And it's like 30 cents a day or something like that, 50 cents a day just for the support. 666 00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:11,640 If that saves you one student or if that brings back a student that canceled because they 667 00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:16,360 had a poor zoom experience, then that subscription was paid for for the entire year when they 668 00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:17,800 come back for that one month. 669 00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:21,760 So just to put them in perspective, perspective that we want to make sure that you have all 670 00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:23,280 the tools and resources. 671 00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:27,120 So if you do have network problems, if you need technical support, if your students have 672 00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:31,240 a problem and you're a paid subscriber, give us a call one o'clock to eight o'clock Eastern 673 00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:34,400 Standard Time and Saturdays nine to three. 674 00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:37,600 And I got some emails from people in Australia and New Zealand. 675 00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:38,800 They said, what about us? 676 00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:39,800 Those times don't work. 677 00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:45,240 The first thing I did was I went out, I found and hired and trained tech support and that 678 00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:46,440 rolls out on Monday. 679 00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:50,800 Within two weeks, I've completely trained, set up Australian phone numbers and a chat 680 00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:55,520 service for everybody in Australia and New Zealand just to make sure that their lessons 681 00:33:55,520 --> 00:33:56,520 go smooth. 682 00:33:56,520 --> 00:33:59,360 I don't think you'll get that from any other platform to be honest with you. 683 00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:00,360 Yeah. 684 00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:03,400 I don't think so either. 685 00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:08,280 Can you talk a little bit about your different subscription models and what are the differences 686 00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:09,280 between them? 687 00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:10,280 You bet. 688 00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:17,900 So the zero free subscription was basically for actually to say, listen, give us a try 689 00:34:17,900 --> 00:34:18,900 and we're better than Zoom. 690 00:34:18,900 --> 00:34:22,640 We're not going to give you any restrictions like cutting you off after 40 minutes if you 691 00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:27,240 have a group, because sometimes when you have a lesson and a child is having a problem, 692 00:34:27,240 --> 00:34:31,160 you don't want to just say, sorry, Zoom says it's 40 minutes and your time is done. 693 00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:33,320 But to me, I wanted to remove that. 694 00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:37,320 The free version gives you the PDF upload so you can still share music and your student 695 00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:39,280 can still download music. 696 00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:46,200 And there's a lot of downsides to the free version in that you don't have a static URL, 697 00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:51,040 which basically means if it's the Kimi Song Studio, that's your URL you send out to your 698 00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:52,680 students, it never changes. 699 00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:54,900 It lasts a lifetime of your membership. 700 00:34:54,900 --> 00:34:59,560 But every time on the free subscription that you want to set up a virtual music lesson, 701 00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:02,120 you got to go in, you got to log in and create a lesson. 702 00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:03,480 It gives you an ID. 703 00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:06,160 That ID is only used once, can't be used again. 704 00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:07,920 You mail it to your student. 705 00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:09,840 Once that lesson is over, it's over. 706 00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:12,720 And you got to regenerate it every single time. 707 00:35:12,720 --> 00:35:14,640 This is a great opportunity to check the product. 708 00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:16,320 The audio is going to be the same. 709 00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:19,700 You're not going to have the ear technology, but you get to see what it sounds and hear 710 00:35:19,700 --> 00:35:20,700 what it sounds like. 711 00:35:20,700 --> 00:35:24,600 You get to experience the PDF upload to see how much value it provides. 712 00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:28,440 But then on the paid subscription, and the paid subscription is if you teach one instrument. 713 00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:31,440 If you just teach piano, you just get a piano subscription. 714 00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:35,720 You get the access to 1.8 million songs on a song search. 715 00:35:35,720 --> 00:35:40,200 You get all of these song called these, I should say these piano called resources. 716 00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:45,120 You click on a call that shows up right there in your students video within seconds. 717 00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:48,360 So if you want to show them what an A major looks like, the A major called you click on 718 00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:52,640 as a teacher, and it appears in real time for your student, which is an amazing feature. 719 00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:57,960 You get a custom URL, like I said, so if it says if it's Eric Hunter piano class, that 720 00:35:57,960 --> 00:35:59,320 could be your custom URL. 721 00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:02,560 You send it out once, you never have to send it again. 722 00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:04,400 We also offer waiting rooms. 723 00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:08,120 So if your student comes with that URL a little bit early, they'll sit in a waiting room. 724 00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:11,000 So you don't have to worry about them bodging into a lesson. 725 00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:14,540 We have annotations and the annotations are enough to knock your socks off. 726 00:36:14,540 --> 00:36:19,560 We have real annotations, not annotations in Zoom where you share a screen and you get 727 00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:22,220 a couple of magic markers and some screen shapes. 728 00:36:22,220 --> 00:36:24,360 You're not going to have a rectangle on a circle. 729 00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:25,440 We have that too. 730 00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:30,200 But we have the bass clef, treble clef, the staves come up, you can actually select on 731 00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:32,520 a note and notate that right there. 732 00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:34,680 You can teach the circle of fifths right there. 733 00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:39,560 You can upload a piano keyboard and select the pen tool and do scales like an A major 734 00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:44,120 scale by selecting A, B, C sharp, D, E, F sharp, G sharp. 735 00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:48,520 And the best part is you can download it and your student can download it right onto their 736 00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:49,520 computer. 737 00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:53,360 And in Zoom, you have to look at all the steps and Zoom, if you want to screen share and 738 00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:55,320 annotate, your screen share is one. 739 00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:57,400 Two, you pull up a PDF. 740 00:36:57,400 --> 00:37:00,080 Three, you mark it up, you annotate it. 741 00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:04,120 Four, you take an image because you can't save it if you're not saving as an image. 742 00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:08,080 And five, you email it to a parent and the parent never gets it to the child. 743 00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:11,280 This you download the button inside the whiteboard. 744 00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:15,440 It literally downloads the entire annotations right there in front of your student and the 745 00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:18,240 teacher gets to do it too and save it as well. 746 00:37:18,240 --> 00:37:23,160 And that's where back to what you were saying, Clara, you'll be able to upload images, JPEGs, 747 00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:28,240 anything your student sends you, PDFs, annotate, do it as much as you like. 748 00:37:28,240 --> 00:37:29,760 And all that is downloaded right there. 749 00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:32,160 So that's part of the paid subscription as well. 750 00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:37,120 As we spoke about the ear technology enhanced audio recognition, which is a little checkbox 751 00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:42,240 and that checkbox, once it hits, it literally changes all the codecs in the background. 752 00:37:42,240 --> 00:37:45,400 You start the lesson, you get a big banner that says, hey, you got to have headphones 753 00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:46,920 on both sides. 754 00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:51,960 It's one on one, it's a duet and you must be using your web browser, not mobile device. 755 00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:54,040 And you'll get the sound of a lifetime. 756 00:37:54,040 --> 00:37:58,680 I would encourage you guys to do a one on one with me just to hear what it sounds like. 757 00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:00,520 It's just amazing. 758 00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:04,600 And then I think most of all, which I think really with the paid subscription really hits 759 00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:09,320 home is that technical support because we've had this one gentleman on one of the Facebook 760 00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:13,120 forums said, you know, I had to cancel lesson because the student had poor internet connection, 761 00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:14,120 we couldn't figure it out. 762 00:38:14,120 --> 00:38:16,180 And now I got to give him back the money. 763 00:38:16,180 --> 00:38:20,120 And that's what really made me just reflect and say, how can we fix this pain point? 764 00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:21,840 And that's what I did. 765 00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:23,080 So that's the single license. 766 00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:26,240 But now if you have a multiple, if you have a music school and you have teachers that 767 00:38:26,240 --> 00:38:27,560 teach multiple instruments. 768 00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:32,520 So let's say Eric, you teach piano, drums, guitar and ukulele. 769 00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:38,080 Well that gives you the ability to do search song searches for every guitar song ever written, 770 00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:39,880 bass, every bass song ever written. 771 00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:42,880 You can pull up chords for ukulele, chords for the guitar. 772 00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:45,820 You could pull up drum percussion, everything piano as well. 773 00:38:45,820 --> 00:38:51,700 So you have every musical teaching room instrument and the ability to switch between rooms. 774 00:38:51,700 --> 00:38:54,840 You have that under one multi lesson license. 775 00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:58,440 So that means that if you teach more than one instrument, you're going to want that 776 00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:02,960 for 13.95 and that will also include all of those other features, but the ability to pull 777 00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:06,000 up now 15 terabytes of music. 778 00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:09,640 And that's all with the ability for the student to download. 779 00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:11,480 That's pretty significant number. 780 00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:16,880 Wonderful. Alright, so that concludes our interview, I guess. 781 00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:20,760 But lastly, would you like to promote something? 782 00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:26,440 Yes, that's I absolutely do. 783 00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:27,440 I killed zoom.com. 784 00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:29,680 Now you gave me, you had said to me, I didn't know about it. 785 00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:32,560 So yes, I killed zoom.com is huge. 786 00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:33,880 And this is what happened. 787 00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:38,040 So I'm like, this is so much better than zoom, but what can I do to really grab somebody's 788 00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:39,040 attention now? 789 00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:40,400 Rock out that live is cool. 790 00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:45,600 So this is the difference as teachers you're ready, you got a young student 10 years old. 791 00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:50,240 And I don't know Eric, you give me card, do you have students that are 10 11 years old? 792 00:39:50,240 --> 00:39:55,720 And you know, let me ask you then you answer this question for me because now I have a 793 00:39:55,720 --> 00:39:56,720 question for you. 794 00:39:56,720 --> 00:40:00,640 Is it cool to say, are you ready to rock out loud or let's get on a zoom call. 795 00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:03,160 Just get a piano lesson. 796 00:40:03,160 --> 00:40:07,200 You tell me what are you ready to rock out loud or you ready to zoom? 797 00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:08,200 Eric. 798 00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:17,520 Yeah, because when you think about it, children now are associating zoom with English. 799 00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:21,960 My son is taking zoom lessons in school and he's doing gym classes. 800 00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:26,160 I mean, it's like, let's connect on zoom and let's do jumping jacks. 801 00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:29,600 There's nothing exciting about that. 802 00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:31,840 But if you're like, let's go and rock out loud. 803 00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:34,520 Let's do an awesome kick butt piano lesson to me. 804 00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:35,920 That's the juice, right? 805 00:40:35,920 --> 00:40:41,140 So if you go to I killed zoom.com, you'll not only see and hear the difference between 806 00:40:41,140 --> 00:40:45,960 me and zoom, but you'll hear me playing acoustic guitar and you'll get that audio quality difference. 807 00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:49,600 And I would encourage you guys just to check out that video because it's me playing a little 808 00:40:49,600 --> 00:40:54,600 Led Zeppelin and you'll hear over the hills and far away in both zoom version and my version. 809 00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:57,120 And then you get to see the graphic EQ. 810 00:40:57,120 --> 00:41:03,280 That graphic EQ shows you if it wasn't clear enough audibly, it shows you how the so many 811 00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:07,640 deficiencies in the levels where they take out the top end and the bottom end. 812 00:41:07,640 --> 00:41:09,440 So you can see that as well. 813 00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:13,600 And I also offer you'll see in the bottom right, I'll offer you a demo book a demo. 814 00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:14,600 You guys book the demo. 815 00:41:14,600 --> 00:41:15,600 I do demos. 816 00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:19,880 I do 22 demos a day since the seventh of sixth of July. 817 00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:24,200 So since July six, because July fourth was a Saturday, I've been doing demos Monday through 818 00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:27,120 Friday from 8am to 8.30pm. 819 00:41:27,120 --> 00:41:30,000 This week covers the New Zealand and Australian folks. 820 00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:32,240 But I go through these demos for everybody. 821 00:41:32,240 --> 00:41:35,720 22 a day, I've done almost 1000. 822 00:41:35,720 --> 00:41:40,160 And every single day it's introducing this to a new person and they're using it and the 823 00:41:40,160 --> 00:41:44,360 feedback and the rock out loud live forum, which is on Facebook, I'd encourage everybody 824 00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:48,520 to join the feedbacks been great, whether they're doing one on one lessons, or they're 825 00:41:48,520 --> 00:41:53,040 having a great experience for the first time with people who have poor internet. 826 00:41:53,040 --> 00:41:54,760 Because remember, we've developed this. 827 00:41:54,760 --> 00:41:58,840 So this poor internet, we're going to reduce the video quality, and we're going to maintain 828 00:41:58,840 --> 00:42:00,440 that audio quality. 829 00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:04,920 So people who've had horrible experiences with that, that's coming through people doing 830 00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:09,240 duets for the first time, albeit with a little bit of latency, are actually experiencing 831 00:42:09,240 --> 00:42:15,080 this at a woman Anna, who did a duet with me with incredible low latency experience, 832 00:42:15,080 --> 00:42:16,840 and she started to cry on the call. 833 00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:19,160 So you could just imagine what that was like. 834 00:42:19,160 --> 00:42:23,640 So man, if you haven't tried it, try the free version, you have nothing to lose. 835 00:42:23,640 --> 00:42:26,560 And heck, go for the seven day free trial on the paid version. 836 00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:31,400 If you keep, I'm sorry, 995, you got up to eight days to use it, we charge you on the 837 00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:32,400 eighth day. 838 00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:36,800 So you have seven days, do whatever you like, cancel it at any time, you won't get charged. 839 00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:39,640 But just to see what it's all about, I think it's worth a try. 840 00:42:39,640 --> 00:42:41,280 Not for us, it's for your students. 841 00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:42,960 And I just want to make a point. 842 00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:48,840 So to end this, we're not doing this for any anybody else but the student, we can't lose 843 00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:53,200 sight that rock out loud live was not for the teacher, not for the school, but it was 844 00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:58,440 for that child who wants to learn how to play Let It Go by Frozen. 845 00:42:58,440 --> 00:43:03,200 We want to do this for that child to put that smile on their face, especially now when all 846 00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:07,880 they have is music because school they closed down and they can't go out or they're still 847 00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:10,000 in lockdown in different parts of the world. 848 00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:14,800 But if we can give them music like they really had it, that's what this is all about. 849 00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:18,960 To me, it's not about the platform, it's really about the child. 850 00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:19,960 Noble goal. 851 00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:23,020 Yeah, for sure. 852 00:43:23,020 --> 00:43:27,720 So that concludes the third episode of our podcast. 853 00:43:27,720 --> 00:43:30,640 Thank you, Mike, for joining our program. 854 00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:37,060 And we want to thank our audience for watching or listening to this episode. 855 00:43:37,060 --> 00:43:42,940 If you enjoyed today's 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