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about how they are bringing the piano into the 21st century.
Welcome back to the PianoPod.
I'm Clara Zhang.
I am Eric Hunter.
I'm Yukimi Song.
Today our guest is Min Kwon.
Chamber American pianist Min Kwon excels in versatile career that encompasses contrived
solo recitals and chamber music appearances, while in high demand around the world as a
pedagogue, art advocate, and administrator, she has held professional engagements in over
60 countries on seven continents and all 50 US states, and currently is a professor of
piano at the Mason Gross School of Arts Rocker University since 2002.
Dr. Kwon is also the founder and the director of the Center for Musical Excellence, CME,
a nonprofit dedicated to mentoring and supporting gifted young musicians.
She served as co-director of Vienna Contrary Fest in Austria and is the first music alumni
to have been invited to serve on the Juilliard School Council in New York.
Min Kwon is also a Stanley artist.
Thank you so much for joining our show, Professor Kwon.
It's such an honor to have you.
Hello.
Thanks for having me.
It's always a pleasure to be with fellow pianists and piano teachers.
Absolutely.
Thank you so much.
So how was your summer?
I saw you were in Vienna for a while.
Yeah, I had a very, very eventful summer.
A lot of it was dedicated to my project, America Beautiful.
And once it premiered, I think around July 4th that week, I immediately I left for Austria,
where I go every summer for a festival there.
And then I got to have a little free time after the vacation that I really, really needed
with two of my girls.
And I just got back not too long ago.
So that is so, so wonderful.
Welcome back.
Thank you.
You too.
I know.
It was like a dream, right?
So anyway, I want to tell our audience a little bit of how we met.
Really, actually today is our very first time meeting face to face, even on the internet.
But I feel like I've known you for a very long time.
You probably didn't notice me when I was much younger.
But when I first moved to New York, like 13, 14 years ago, I remember meeting a clarinetist.
And I on that same day, I somehow came across a I think a performance of yours online.
And I was telling this, you know, new friend, I was like, Oh, I really like this pianist.
And then he was like, Oh, I heard students all accompany me.
I'm doing my DMA and rockers.
And I was like, Wow, that's so he said so much great things about you.
So that's in the beginning, and then eventually we got connected through social media.
And the, you know, internet really brings everybody together.
And later on, I actually became a big fan of your sister's YouTube channel.
So I feel like I've known your family and your just passion for music so much.
So anyway, thank you.
Thank you for that.
Thank you for your enthusiasm.
I love that.
Thank you.
Yeah, thank you.
So now today, the biggest thing we really want to talk about that we want to talk about
so many things, but well, let's start from your beginnings.
I would love to know what was your background like?
I know you were born in Korea and you came.
How was it like?
Yeah.
Well, I grew up in a very musical environment because my mother was a piano teacher and
she was someone who was specialized in very young children, actually age three and up.
And she was so gifted in teaching them and make just music be part of their everyday
life, you know?
And she had no intention to teach me.
But I just grew up with all of her students coming to our house all the time.
And I think it was actually when she was out, she had an assistant teacher and the assistant
teacher found me at the piano and, you know, trying to play by ear.
And also I heard that whenever her students, my mom's students would make a mistake, I
would always go like this, you know?
You had a very strong, perfect pitch.
And then they discovered, yeah, I had perfect pitch.
So that's my sister actually.
And then I think I kind of started playing piano and then violin and cello.
And you know, I sang in a choir.
I mean, it was so very, very natural for me.
And it only like maybe when I turned 11, 12, and you know, there's a very famous art school
called Yewon in Seoul.
And I think I wanted to go there.
And my mom said, you know, you have to pick one instrument.
This is just getting too much.
Right.
Too many choices.
So that's when I picked piano.
I became serious with it.
And then just a couple years later, I got into the school, Yewon.
It's art school with music, dance and pre-college program.
It was a middle school every day thing.
And then after a couple of years, maybe not even, I came to America and I went to Curtis.
And that's where it all began.
Wow.
That is such a fun actually experience from the beginning.
You know, sometimes I know a lot of musicians we are, you know, I grew up in a long, long
generation in China.
So we were kind of like, give a instrument.
If you do it, you do it.
Well, otherwise you don't even do it.
Right.
But you had many instruments to choose from, it seems like.
So that's very exciting.
And I do want to know a bit more of your days in Curtis and at Juilliard.
And I know you were the first award only council for Juilliard later on, right?
When you became alumni.
How was that experience coming from Korea in the very beginning?
You know, so when I was in my teens, early teens, I had already made that view with the
orchestras and, you know, getting into really what it is to be a musician.
And I really wanted that.
And I remember reading music magazines and it was first in Korea also called Auditorium.
And there were such glorious stories and pictures of conservatories in America.
And of course, I dreamt of going there.
And there's a little funny story.
And of course, to send a 12, 13 year old abroad alone, I mean, that's not a reality for many,
many families.
But I was very lucky that my father, company that he worked for had these branches.
So he had an opportunity to go work abroad.
And I remember him knowing my desire and wish to go abroad and study at the time.
First he was assigned to go to Norway, Oslo, Norway, because he worked with shipping company,
the building company of Hyundai.
So Norway.
And I remember saying, you know, no way, I'm not going there.
No way, Norway, no, I'm going to go to America.
I'm going to go to Curtis.
So he turned that down.
And then the following year or, you know, and then he said it was London, you know,
and you know, now looking back, of course, any of those countries would have been fine.
But I was very stubborn about going to Curtis.
So we said no to London.
And then finally he comes.
Yay, New York.
You know, New Jersey, New York.
So that's how we came.
And it was just like a month or two before the audition time at Curtis.
So I remember really like, you know, cramming to prepare the audition pieces and all that.
And then once I got in, I remember my teacher at this time was in Island of Sokolov.
God bless her.
She was 106 and she just passed away last year.
Yeah.
And when I first went to her, she was in her seventies and I thought she was old then,
but you know, old by age.
But you know, my lessons with her was at 730 a.m.
And you can leave it because I had to go to middle school, high school after my lesson,
which started at 845.
So she squeezed me for lessons 730 a.m.
And you know how brutal that is?
It's wintertime, especially waking up pitch dark.
And fall off the auto.
Anyway, yeah, but she was always like prepared.
I mean, with her, she has a signature hat.
Yeah.
And yeah.
And always beautifully dressed and makeup and just perfect.
And then sometimes, you know, when I first started this 730 lessons, I would get up at
430, practice, you know, and then go.
And then little by little, I got lazy and my alarm, I would miss my alarm.
And sometimes like at 725, I would wake up, oh my God, and I would run to my lesson.
So those are my fun memories of my early days.
Now, I want to basically going into the project you've been doing, I assume it's because of
all this early childhood experience as a musician and this all this fun, really, that perhaps
that the idea came up.
But you can tell us more about this beautiful project you have started.
And beautiful on July 4th, and which I believe is one of your daughter's birthday as well.
Right?
Yes.
Wow, Clara, you've done your research.
Yes.
Thank you.
Curious a person.
But I would love to hear more.
You know, I think I've always had this curiosity and desire to program, make concerts or create
something an idea, you know, that's always what excites me.
So even when, you know, I have this much younger sister, as you know, you said you follow her
YouTube.
That's right.
So she was kind of like my guinea pig.
And you know, and I was teaching her to play violin, but also we would always like transcribe
or putting on a concert or, you know, with different theme.
So this kind of passion continued.
So when I became a professor at Rutgers, every year I decided to put on concerts with student
pianos to studio.
Right.
So having this kind of coming up with themes or, you know, storytelling is just kind of
part of what I do.
And I think my job as being a musician or artistic director.
And of course, later with CME, I know we're going to talk about that.
Also I had to put on a lot of concerts, produce concerts.
So America Brought Beautiful is actually just kind of natural outcome of what I do.
I think about five, four years ago, I did a concert at Carnegie of Diabelli's unknown
variations we called it.
So you know, you all know about everybody knows Beethoven's 33 Diabelli, but at the
time Diabelli actually commissioned 50 other composers that were active in central Vienna
to write a variation on his little theme in C major.
Right.
And they are just actually very, very charming.
There's a whole variety of there's front list Schubert, Hummel, you know, to people now
who are forgotten.
But it's such a fun spectrum of hearing these 50 pieces in concert.
So we did that.
And also at the time we commissioned, we had a little competition at Rutgers with composition
department and asked them to write new variations.
So we mixed the old with the new, you know, I find these things always very, very fun.
And also getting as many people involved as possible.
So you know, I think this communal aspect of music making and I think that's one thing
I really disliked about being a pianist is that you always spend so much time alone,
you know, in solitude practicing alone.
And I wasn't always but I'm a very much people person.
I always wanted to be in the orchestra.
That was one problem with being a pianist.
So I don't want to attract too much, but I actually auditioned to be in Chicago Civic
Orchestra, which I was principal keyboardist for two years, and then Florida Philharmonic
and even Los Angeles Philharmonic to be the pianist in the orchestra.
That's how much I wanted to be a part of a group.
I wanted to belong somewhere with my fellow musicians.
So putting on these concerts is pretty natural thing for me.
So after Diabelli, I've always been wanting to create 21st century American Diabelli of
sort.
And I because I really believe America is the creative melting pot and so many interesting
things are happening on a daily basis, right?
And then that that that idea kind of was, you know, growing inside of me.
And of course, the pandemic happened.
I had I think already started contacting some composers.
And then with pandemic that that stopped kind of everything for everyone.
Of course, I also had a few months of slump, depression, everything being canceled, teaching
students via Zoom.
This was no fun.
You know, I think we all went through that.
And then I thought, wait a minute, there has to be something that we can do.
And I wanted to do something with a lot of people together, because, you know, you make
a stronger statement as a mass instead of individual.
And also there are a lot of, you know, frustrating, depressing things happening every time you
turn on the news.
And we were all watching in our own bedroom in our corner, just being sad or angry or
confused about the status.
But then can we do something positive?
Can we turn it around for something new and creative?
And mostly because, you know, my kids were home, virtual schooling.
They're too young to understand what is going on when they grow up and read about the time,
2020 or pandemic.
Is this all they're going to read about?
You know, why don't we create something that in 2020 this also happened?
So that's what America Beautiful Project is.
So I started reaching out.
First I started with listening to a lot of these composers that I hadn't really paid
attention to or you know how we are, we get very busy and we are so lucky playing music
from two, three hundred years old.
So we don't really have to as pianists look into explore the new music that's being written
every day.
And but I think pandemic really gave me the time now to do that.
And I really enjoyed that experience for me was my outlet for connecting with outside
world, other musicians, and then calling them, zooming with them, talking about the music
and what we can do together.
So that's the result.
I asked America, you know, seventy five now, you know, I wasn't going to do that many.
I was maybe fifty would have been a dream number because that was the Abelis number
fifty.
But then it just grew and more people came on board.
They kept saying that, you know, many said no also, but many said yes.
And I simply asked this, you know, it's like a musical diary or, you know, what do you
feel about America today?
Right.
And I think it's a really beautiful snapshot of the time, very intense time that we experienced
together because, you know, they were very honest also.
And that's what music allows us to do.
You know, some music is very angry.
Some is very poignant and sad or distraught.
And some is still very beautiful and hopeful.
And so it's been such a privilege to get to know these composers and to learn their language.
And so I'm still in the process.
So we've premiered quite a lot, virtually only.
It's my dream to be able to bring that to, you know, everyone around the country.
And we are starting to do that in the fall.
And another batch of maybe 10, 12 more composers, including Tanya Leone, who is the Sears Pulitzer
Prize winner, and many other wonderful composers are in that premiere to take place.
Just sorry to interrupt, but I'm just curious to know.
So all these composers are arranging this piece for their own interpretation?
Is that what it is?
Very good question.
So no, it's they have rewritten.
So it's kind of, you know, I left it very open for them.
But it's not simply rearrangement of the tune.
It's more the America, the beautiful, the song is there to give kind of like a common
ground and as a starting point.
But it's everything, the lyrics or the melody or rhythm, they can use whatever the element
that catches them.
But these are completely new pieces.
And some actually you cannot even recognize.
And some, of course, composers use some materials from the song.
And some used to depict certain lyric words that really touch them, you know, so there's
a whole lot of variety.
So out of all these Americana patriotic songs, including National Anthem, so what's the reason
you chose this specific piece, specific song?
I love the lyrics, you know, but what was the reason behind it?
Well, I mean, I was looking for something that was very American, something that everyone
can recognize or relate to and identify with.
And also I wanted to reach public audience just beyond a small circle of classical music
or new music lovers.
You know, and because that's what as musicians we should be doing every day anyway.
We shouldn't just be playing for each other and, you know, reach that same how many people,
you know.
I consider my day very successful when I'm able to convert non-classical music lover
to be curious about what I do and to listen to one of my recordings or come to my concert
and become a fan, you know.
So in that regard, America the Beautiful, everybody knows, you know, you've heard it
in football games and inaugural inaugurations or any in school, you know, important locations
and they all kind of have a memory or something that they can identify with.
So that and then coincidentally, it was the length was perfect to be a theme for a variation.
It's short enough, it's simple enough and yet there are intervals and like there's enough
for composers to take from, you know, as a theme you can't have such a complex piece
of music anyway, you know.
And the lyrics as you mentioned is very meaningful, very hopeful.
It's idealistic version of America.
But why not start there, you know, because there was enough darkness around us.
I mean, that's how this country started anyway with hope and a dream, right?
Yeah, yeah.
And of course, it's a work in progress.
The country is still, you know, and the fact that we are so many people that come from
so many different backgrounds, that's the biggest challenge.
I think that's our biggest strength also at the same time challenge, the fact that they
are just the country is so big and there are just so many different kind of people with
different belief system or the culture or traditions that they bring to this country.
But there has to be a way to come together and make it our strength and it's really something
to celebrate our diversity, right?
Right.
I have to say that when I first watched the CBS premieres on YouTube of your shows, I
mean of these concerts, I was especially the one in Brooklyn, I believe it was in a cemetery,
right?
It was so beautiful because I think you keep me and I both became American citizens in
the last couple of years during the pandemic, you know, I did right before and she did just
recently this year.
So it's, you know, either way, it's very interesting, right?
Because some countries like Europeans, I think they can have dual citizenship.
For me as a Chinese, I kind of have to let go of the Chinese and become American, which
is, you know, it's a choice.
But sometimes and I have always sort of knew I was going to come to America since I was
three years old.
But still, right, it was interesting, you know, beginning for me as well.
But when you actually finally do it, you do have to ask, you know, what does that this
mean?
Right?
So I want to know how was your experience as an immigrant and a female, especially,
you know, in the very beginning, and I know you accomplished so much and you play with
your sister and she's a beautiful violinist.
I think in the beginning, I probably knew her work even a bit more than yours.
And then I came across both of your work.
So how was like in the very beginning, when you first came?
Well, that's I think a loaded question.
But you know, I am someone who don't think of me as Korean or Asian or woman.
And I've kind of always charged on as I'm a person, you know, I'm a human being, I'm
a musician, I'm a pianist.
But I can share it with you a couple of stories.
And of course, that discrimination or, you know, people have preconceived ideas or, you
know, that's always there.
And I think it's always how you turn it around or how you show them that that's not the case,
maybe.
I mean, luckily, in music, I feel like we live in a very international community, right?
Exactly.
So even when I came to Curtis, back then, I mean, not like now, but still there were
like maybe eight of us Koreans.
I mean, now there are more Koreans and Chinese the whole school, you know, but still, you
know, I didn't feel alone in that regard.
And also, Julie are also a school is a very international place.
So I always felt very close to, I don't know, Norwegians or German or Austrians, they're
all my buddies, you know.
But a couple of stories is that I remember playing Gershwin Preludes in a lesson, and
the teacher was kind of stunned and she said, Why do you play this so well?
You know, like, like, you're not American, like, how do you understand this?
You know, so that kind of thing.
And then another time at Julliard, this older lady was running the placement office, which
gives out gigs to students.
And at the time, there is this six star cruise line being formed.
And our chairman of the board, whose name was Mary Rogers, and she was the daughter
of Richard Rogers, who wrote Sound of Music.
And this cruise line wanted to put on a production Broadway type show of Richard Rogers, Sound
of Music and other things.
So the cruise line approached the foundation, Richard Rogers Foundation for that right.
And I think Mary was very clever in making a deal, negotiation in that, you know, I will
give that to you if you invite some of our top Julliard students to come out and perform.
So it was kind of she was a pioneer in that.
And nowadays, cruise industry, well, not before pandemic is very, very popular.
But this was our Julliard students started to go and perform little classical concerts
on board.
And it's a great experience because you reach this kind of patron and you have a captive
audience on the ship and you get to travel around the world and see and socialize.
It's a great opportunity.
But anyway, and then I started to hear from my male classmates, studio mates, that they
were being invited to go out, you know, and it's funny story.
But at the time, I'm thinking, wait a minute, why just them?
Like I was winning all the competitions.
I was, you know, I won Gina Bacow, I won the concerto competition, everything at the time.
But how come they never asked me?
So I asked the lady actually who books these musicians.
And you know, she's told me she said, this is not a job for you.
It's not a job for a girl.
You know, I remember that.
And I'm thinking, why not?
Why is it not, you know?
So I'll tell you something that I only share with very few people.
Well, now it's going to go out in public.
So I, you know, I didn't stop there.
So you know, I wrote to the cruise line.
I wrote a letter.
And at the time, my sister and I, we had our, we were the first Koreans to record for BMG,
which was Red Label, RCA Red Seal.
I put the CD in and I said, you know, I'm hearing a lot of my friends are starting to
go and perform.
And I said, we would love to do that as well, you know, and I'm so and so.
So that was pretty brave, I think.
This is nine years ago, I was young.
And then, but you know what?
I did that just so that I could say I've done it.
And then I really forgot about it.
I forgot about it.
And about three, four months later, like the phone rings.
This is before email or internet or YouTube, you know?
And then they said, Hello, I am the vice president of entertainment at you know, and we would
love to invite you to come out.
So that was like incredible.
Oh my gosh.
Yeah.
So for many years, that actually became and we became one of the more most popular.
I don't want to say entertainers.
What do they call it?
A guest artist on board.
Because they also all the guests actually do a little like SAT type of survey at the
end and they vote for their favorite missions or favorite guests.
And it was always us classical musicians, which was very unusual, you know?
Yeah, so my sister and I we did that together and I did that alone.
That's been our summer gig.
That's amazing.
And you have no idea how many friends I made.
Wow.
Along this ride.
Because one thing about concerts is that you play a concert, you fly in and you play a
concert, maybe you say hello to people, you know, at the reception, you sign the CD and
bye bye and you never see them again.
But on a cruise, I was socializing with them.
I was going to dinner with them.
We had like 10 days to be together and they got to know me.
And this is how I met some of my patrons who gave money to doctors and to CME, you know,
things like that, because they got to really know me beyond that one night on stage.
You know, they got to know me, my passion, what I would like to do and started supporting
me that way.
Exactly.
Well, thank you for sharing those beautiful stories, you know, because the reason I asked
is because I think, you know, even when I first came to the US, I was again in Kansas
and I came with my best friend and we played a lot of gigs.
You know, we were very young, we didn't speak English, but somehow I think your story, it
will inspire the generations of musicians to come.
Right.
Because being a musician really, it's one thing we have to learn to be an entrepreneur.
Right.
We have to be humble, but we also have to learn to, well, if I don't say beautifully,
we have to learn to sell ourselves, or at least we can't just sit in the practice and
practice 10 hours and not have anyone know who we are.
And so, and especially like you said, you know, all the first for you and your sister
to just be out there and as classical musicians.
Right.
Sometimes it's very different to be what they call entertainer.
And it's another thing that we are playing classical music.
So thank you so much for that.
I wanted to circle back to the project, Dr. Kwan, and ask you about working with these
composers.
What was it like?
What kind of conversations did you have?
How did you even just, well, I guess you talked about how you got everybody together.
But yeah, what was it like working with these composers on music that was just being written
in the last year?
Yeah, great question.
So I wanted to say this has been for me personally, a perfect pandemic project, because also without
it, you know, silver lining in everything is that I would not have imagined working
with these people.
They are not always in New York.
You know, they are really all over the country and people become busy.
But we were able to connect via Zoom.
I would interview them, talk to them about their vision, and I would play for them.
You know, it would have been impossible to make 75 trips to all their homes and studios
around the country to play.
But in a way, this virtual life of ours now made it possible.
And you know, we are different, but we're all the same.
I think what I learned is that a lot of these composers, maybe more than half, are immigrants
or their parents were immigrants, right?
And so they all have stories to tell.
And usually they write abstract music, but this was a very specific assignment, right,
to force them to think about America.
What does it mean to you?
What does it mean to you now?
And of course, the reaction I got was like, how can I even think about America the beautiful
when America is not a beautiful place?
Right?
Or, you know, like I don't write or patriotic themed things.
And then it took some convincing for me to do, which is, yes, America is not beautiful.
And this is why we have to do this now.
Right?
And this is kind of artists' responsibility to put a kind of lens on what is going on.
And also having all these different types of music styles of which they write.
I mean, there's some experimental music where I'm like literally, you know, clusters, tone
clusters banging.
And then there's like little play of 12 tone.
There's rock and roll or film style music.
There's Indian, there's Syrian influence.
You know, it's just, it's mind boggling, actually.
And for me to put myself in their shoes.
You know, I can't say I'm, I come from very traditional, you know, I went to Curtis and
Julia and played all the standard concertos and repertoire.
Right?
So my heart and it will always be with Schubert or Schumann.
You know, that's the music I used to identify with.
Right?
So, and I'm not one of those new music specialists that I, that I was always playing this new
music.
I had many of premieres and when the music speaks to me, I play them.
But this was a real, really different experience as you can imagine.
But it's something that I loved.
I enjoyed, I thrived on so much because if something like a language is a little unusual,
like, what does this mean?
Why does this sound like this?
You know, I had an opportunity to talk to the composer about it.
Right.
And we all know it's something you cannot do, you can't pick up the phone and call Beethoven.
Why did you do this?
But I could do that with these people.
And the minute I talked to them, I mean, it like solved the problem, like the passages
I was struggling with, like, because I knew where they were coming from.
And I just felt like this is such a great lesson in not just music, but how we interact
with each other, you know, or how we communicate.
You know, we don't, we meet someone for the first time or second time.
We don't really understand why is he like that or why is he saying that?
But if you take the time to go back to the intention of, you know, oh, this is what,
you know, that just like takes care of so many things.
And I just love that, that process.
Yeah, totally.
I mean, you're exploring the whole relationship between the performer and the composer and
the audience, right?
And how they how we communicate their intentions.
I want to circle back a little bit because I loved how you were talking about how you
had to convince some of the composers and especially during a dark time, what is America
the beautiful mean?
Right.
And I just want to know what does being American mean to you?
And what does this country represent to you?
How do you see it?
I love the fact that America is a country that welcomes all of us.
It did.
Right.
And our parents.
And it's a country that you can claim to be mine.
You know, and we all made that choice.
And it's that doesn't happen in other places in the world necessarily.
Right.
And I truly feel American, whatever that means.
And I think that's the beauty of it.
The beauty of our country is that it American dream, as corny as it sounds, really was possible
for me.
And when I look back, could I have had all these amazing experiences?
Had I just been growing up in Seoul and living there as cosmopolitan as the city is now and
the country is, you know?
And also, I like the fact that for one of the interviews with the Financial Times for
America Beautiful Project, I had to actually count up how many students that I have encountered
or I have taught.
And it was like 33 countries.
And it was mind boggling.
Many of them I taught in America, not only at Rutgers.
And at Rutgers, I had like very international studio about like 22 countries, students from
22 countries.
Yeah.
But going to festivals or going to festivals abroad, you know?
And I think being American allowed me to do this.
And also, the second thing is being in America or being American is all about possibilities
and also having that influence of so many different things.
That's what's beautiful.
I think one of my composers actually said that when asked, who was your influence?
You know?
Is it Mahler?
Is it Beethoven?
And he said, no, I'm American.
So rock and roll, you know, is my influence.
And it's actually Melinda Wagner, also a Juilliard faculty member, composer, Pulitzer Prize
winning composer, wrote me a piece.
It had influence of like all these names that escaped me.
But it's not only Charles Ives, but it's Carole King.
And it's like very, very cultural life that America is.
You know what I mean?
Yeah, this is...
I find that very exciting.
Yeah, this is actually a question I've been exploring a lot on my own lately, how do composers
develop their own sound?
And more and more the answer I'm finding is, well, you just copy other people.
And then since everybody's tastes are very individual, you're pulling from all different
areas after a while and that becomes your sound.
I think it's a process just like us as a musician or performer finding us our sound, you know,
through the language of Schumann or Chopin, right?
But it's ultimately you who is speaking.
And that's, I think, the ultimate and kind of never ending pursuit of being an artist.
And I think that's why at my age right now, I mean, I am learning more now than I feel
like I did when I was in my 20s.
And every day at the piano is so much more fun now, you know?
And I want to continue to grow until I'm 100, like that.
This concludes part one of our interview with Min Kwan.
Tune in next time to learn about her biggest artistic influences and how she created the
Center for Musical Excellence to support young musicians in their careers.