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I want to present people with jazz theory, not

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as a really scary intellectual college level

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endeavor, but rather as this is like a core fundamental

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way for you to start enjoying the music better.

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Most approaches to theory out there assume an

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immense amount of knowledge. This is jazz starts

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from the ground up. Let me. open your mind or

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blow your mind and we're going to start understanding

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jazz from just the foundational elements. I think

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that there's a place for This Is Jazz to be for

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students. Kids, young adults that want to learn

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jazz, that want to understand jazz on a deeper

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level. This Is Jazz can be for teachers that

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recognize jazz as a special, unique style of

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music that inspires students. Welcome to another

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episode of The Piano Pod, everyone. This season

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is all about creativity and connection, exploring

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how artists across the piano world are reshaping

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what it means to create and connect in today's

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ever -evolving musical landscape. Today's guest

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perfectly embodies that mission. Quentin Walston,

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an active pianist, educator, and entrepreneur

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who is redefining how jazz can be taught, learned,

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and loved by people of all backgrounds. As the

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founder of This Is Jazz and author of How to

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Teach Jazz and Improvisation, Quentin has built

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a platform that empowers teachers nationwide

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to bring jazz and improvisation into their classrooms

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with confidence and creativity. Recognized as

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a Virginia Commission for the Arts Teaching Artist

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and a Maryland State Art Council Tourist Artist,

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he performs as a solo pianist, and with his jazz

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trio blending memorable melodies, striking rhythms,

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and adventurous improvisations. His album Retro

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Future draws inspiration from legends like Thelonio

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Monk and Jason Moran while establishing his own

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voice as a modern jazz artist and educator. Quinton's

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YouTube channel, This Is Jazz Official, and his

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online community have become hubs for educators

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and students alike, offering practical jazz tips,

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musical history, and accessible resources that

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make jazz fun, inspiring, and achievable for

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all ages. Before we begin, a heartfelt thank

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you to you, our listeners, and community. Every

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time you subscribe, rate, or share this show.

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You help us continue to build this space for

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creativity, dialogue, and inspiration. Here's

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Season 6, Episode 5 of the PianoPod with pianist,

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educator, and entrepreneur Quentin Walston. This

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is just making improvisation accessible for everyone.

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Please enjoy the show. You are listening to The

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Piano Pod, where we talk to the brightest minds

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in the industry about how they are bringing the

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piano into the future and thriving in a complex,

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ever -evolving world. Quinton, welcome to The

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Piano Pod. Thank you so much for being here today.

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Thank you for having me. My pleasure. And you

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are not only an accomplished performing artist.

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jazz pianist to be exact but also an entrepreneurial

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force in jazz education and through this is jazz

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that is the your educational brand and also your

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book. I actually purchased the PDF version, How

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to Teach Jazz Improvisation. We're going to talk

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really in depth about this book. You've created

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tools and resources that equip music teachers

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of all backgrounds to bring jazz and improvisation

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into their classrooms and lessons. And I'm excited

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to explore both your artistic journey and the

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business you've built to inspire and empower

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others. As we begin, I'd like to start with this

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question. If you had to describe your mission

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or passion in just a few words or sentences,

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how would you describe it? Well, one, thank you

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for having me. It's an honor to be on this podcast.

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I really, really appreciate it. And my mission,

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especially as far as jazz education goes, is

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I believe that all teachers can teach jazz. So

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everything I do, whether it's in -person training

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sessions, books, courses, my social media presence,

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it's to help equip teachers and really get over

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that. intimidation that is often associated with

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jazz or improvisation so that's uh yeah i guess

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that's more than a couple words but no that's

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great perfect thank you and you are the founder

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of this is jazz and the uh so at the heart of

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your work what is your mission in jazz education

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to be exact and outreach how are you reaching

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out to i guess people through a jazz education

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Yeah, primarily now I do. I'm mostly trying to

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connect with other teachers, helping teachers

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specifically. uh be better equipped to teach

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jazz and improvisation and not just piano teachers

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but also public school teachers whether that's

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middle school band or high school band other

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other areas as well the college level and thereby

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that also reaches a lot of students i've found

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that there is a lot of material out there that's

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gained towards students like you can go on youtube

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and look up really really fascinating videos

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about how to be a jazz player, but not much is

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there to equip teachers. So I sometimes feel

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that teachers get locked into, well, I'm a classical

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teacher. I can't do jazz or I'm this and I can't

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do that. So I really want to kind of extend out

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to teachers and help them in any way I can. Yeah,

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that's great. you know watched your some of the

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video clips on youtube you have a big channel

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youtube channel and also instagram as well it's

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uh of course it's educational but i think what's

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great about is it pretty comprehensive you're

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not just talking about technique or chords but

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also there's a historical elements to it and

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which is super helpful for anybody to understand

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jazz music and then even like there are so many

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different styles of jazz music depending on the

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you know era for example right so you're really

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describing it so well but i want to start actually

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with a book how to teach jazz and improvisation

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i bought a pdf but I think instead of giving

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my audience my impression, I think it's nice

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that you tell us what exactly this book is about.

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Awesome. Well, thank you for getting the PDF

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right. It's online. It's also available in print.

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And the book seeks to fill this gap. There are

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jazz books out there that have fully composed

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or through composed jazz pieces, especially if

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we're looking at beginner. material and and i

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love those pieces when i was in middle school

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high school i was learning those pieces as well

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but there's not very much or you could even say

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really nothing out there for beginner improvisation

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a lot of the improvisation materials out there

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already assume you have a high level of theory

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understanding or a high level of proficiency

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so this book fills that gap and it's a two -part

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book so half of the book is repertoire that you

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would do in your lessons or your classes and

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it's a duet format so the teacher they're playing

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a pre -written jazz chord progression event they

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don't have to worry about improvising themselves

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it lays down that stylistic foundation and then

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the students have just a small collection of

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notes to improvise with And what makes this a

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little bit different than some of the other pedagogical

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resources is it doesn't start with a full scale,

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because often I found in my own teaching experience,

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when you give a student a full scale, all of

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their improvisation is scaler. So the really

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underlying pedagogy is making sure that you're

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improvising and creating things that you can

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actually hear in your mind's ear, like you're

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really inventing a melody. I think piano, it's

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really easy just to play things based on the

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finger shapes or just what it looks like. And

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you can just get by with not truly instilling

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and really not knowing what sound it is you're

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trying to make. So the book presents. students

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with notes that always work on that teacher chord

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progression. No matter what note they play, what

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rhythm, what order, if they're playing from those

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notes, it's going to sound good. So it builds

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confidence. It gets rid of students' anxiety

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about maybe playing a quote -unquote wrong note.

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And then it builds from there. It gives them

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more options. It gives them other considerations.

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Hey, why don't we take rhythm into the equation?

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And the book has seven different compositions

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that all follow that pedagogy. So there's like

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a minor vamp. There's a bluesy one. There's a

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Latin jazz. There's a bebop one. There's a waltz

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and so on and so forth. So it introduces kids

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to real jazz styles that anyone can play. I've

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done these songs with eight -year -olds and I've

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done them with retirees, adult students. So that's

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the... in lesson portion and then the first half

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of the book is all about filling knowledge gaps

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so it's kind of the the teacher's resource if

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they want to know more about jazz harmony all

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those extensions or if they have a student that's

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taking high school jazz band tips for those it

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has improv games it really seeks to be a comprehensive

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resource that's easy to understand and easy to

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digest from a teacher that doesn't have a jazz

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background Yeah, I love teaching improvisation

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when I teach, you know, although my background

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is classical music, people think that I teach

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just a very strict classical music. But actually,

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I especially adult students, I have I live in

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Brooklyn, have so many adult students now for

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some reason. And then, you know, they. feel like

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once they sit at the piano, they can just play

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whatever they want, but it doesn't work that

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way. So improvisation is one of the ways. But

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even then, jazz is a different language to me,

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and I took lessons. So I'm very curious, where

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should we start? Let's say you're talking to

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a teacher. Where is a good place to start in

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terms of teaching jazz style? I think it is melodically.

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And really getting to the base of playing what's

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in your mind's ear. I think piano, because it

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can be such a rich harmonic instrument, sometimes

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teachers feel that they have to go straight into

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all of the elaborate jazz harmony and jazz chords

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and jazz accompaniment. And all of those are

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great, but so much of the jazz language is a

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melodic language. And you can say so much through

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the melody. So I like focusing on first the melody,

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even with a beginner piano student, like let's

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just improvise with your right hand. Your left

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hand will come, but let's get that right hand

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going. And then the other thing is probably one

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of the more difficult things for teachers that

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aren't familiar with jazz is the articulation

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and the phrasing. Jazz has... a lot that can't

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be captured by notation perfectly. So the book

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talks about some of those rules of articulation,

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swing feel, accents and things like that. But

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I think a beginner teacher into jazz should focus

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on being able to improvise what's in their mind's

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ear. It can just be, I mean, you can do it with

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two notes. It doesn't have to be complicated,

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but can you execute the concept that's in your

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head? And then, yeah, and then really getting

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the phrasing. So, yeah, that's where I would

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start. Wow. And what inspired you to, first of

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all? write this book um yeah like is it a years

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of experience or maybe decades of experience

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as a educator and what you saw in firsthand oh

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my gosh this is what something is missing or

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is there some one particular or few particular

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events that oh my gosh i need to write this that's

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a great question i remember so much of the writing

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process but i think what The initial germ of

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the idea, I think, was a little more subtle because

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the first song in the book called Hit It, I've

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been doing for years in lessons. Just when I

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want to do an improvisation activity, I'll just

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play this chord vamp and I'll give my students

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four notes. And it's just a way to get any age

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kid playing or adult, any age student, any level,

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creating something. So it's a great just, you

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can do it in the last two minutes of a lesson.

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Hey, why don't we try this out? And that was

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the idea that I ran with. But I do remember there

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was a time where I was like, man, there is nothing

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out there. There's this hole in the pedagogy.

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And I had a student that loves jazz. So part

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of it was like, well, maybe I'll write some of

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this for him or he can kind of be my trial student.

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So I think there's a few things that led to it.

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But it was essentially a last. A little over

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a year ago is when I really started the composing

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process for it. You said, so missing something.

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So missing part was the melodic writing? I think

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for me, what was missing is just beginner improvisation.

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I guess to name names, I love Martha Mears' Jazz

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Rags and Blues. I'm very familiar with those.

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Yeah. So I played them when I was 13 years old

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and all that. I love them. I think they do a

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great job. I think they're really succinctly

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written. But those don't have any improvisation,

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nor do a lot of songs at that level. When you

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get to Jamie Abersole, who is... kind of for

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decades has been the core jazz beginner improv

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material. He's one of the first people that did

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play along recordings. Those are amazing too,

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but those start pretty high. Like a beginner

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song in the Abrasol series would be like Take

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the A -Train. And yes, to an experienced jazz

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player, Take the A -Train is a beginner song.

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But to play Take the A -Train, you have to be

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able to feel a 32 -bar form. That's A -A -B -A.

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You need to know six or seven different chords.

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You need to know the modes that go with those

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chords. And that's just too much to introduce

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to a nine -year -old. Or even a 30 -year -old

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that wants to try jazz out for the first time.

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So that was that gap that was missing. And I

00:16:34.019 --> 00:16:36.559
really wanted to fill that gap and felt that

00:16:36.559 --> 00:16:40.379
with my background as both a performer and a

00:16:40.379 --> 00:16:43.799
composer and an educator specifically in the

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jazz area, I could fill that gap. I have the

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PDF right in front of me. I am happy to share

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the screen, but I know this is your book, so

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you tell me. You can share the screen. Can I

00:17:00.000 --> 00:17:04.720
share this? Yeah. All right. Here we go. So I

00:17:04.720 --> 00:17:08.180
have your book. This is your front page. I'm

00:17:08.180 --> 00:17:09.779
just going to go all the way back to the front

00:17:09.779 --> 00:17:12.059
page. How to teach jazz improvisation. I love

00:17:12.059 --> 00:17:16.720
this front page. Very nice design. Is there a

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specific page number you want to go to? Yeah,

00:17:20.079 --> 00:17:25.119
well, why don't we jump to 35? And that's going

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to be a sample of the repertoire that people

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can see. There we go. So hit it. So there's the

00:17:32.240 --> 00:17:35.839
teacher part. So it's pretty sight readable.

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It's not meant to burden the teacher at all.

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And the teacher would just play that vamp. on

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repeat and just so you're listening here it's

00:17:52.440 --> 00:17:55.500
kind of that classic um like hit the road jack

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a classic minor tetrachord sound And then if

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you go to the next page, you'll see what the

00:18:01.740 --> 00:18:04.019
student has. So it just starts with four notes.

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They can play anything of those top four notes,

00:18:06.900 --> 00:18:09.779
any order, any rhythm, and it's always going

00:18:09.779 --> 00:18:23.400
to work well with the harmony. So any rhythm,

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any order, they're getting to that idea of constructing

00:18:26.279 --> 00:18:28.799
melodies. And then you see once they feel comfortable

00:18:28.799 --> 00:18:32.119
with that, we add new notes. The third line down

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is conceiving of things in rhythms. One of the

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biggest things with teaching improvisation is

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guiding students to things that they wouldn't

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come up with on their own. A lot of times students

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don't realize it, but they fall into habits.

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Like they might always start with an ascending

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line. Or they might always start with a half

00:18:52.559 --> 00:18:56.319
note, things like that. So the book really tries

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to suggest new ways of soloing, but always within

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the realm of you're not playing wrong notes.

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You don't have to be scared that you're playing

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something that sounds bad. So this first one,

00:19:07.160 --> 00:19:11.259
let's say we pick or the third one, you can do

00:19:11.259 --> 00:19:24.970
a whole solo with. So the idea being that they're

00:19:24.970 --> 00:19:29.309
building new layers of creativity. Yeah. But

00:19:29.309 --> 00:19:32.109
it's great because you're giving us this four

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notes to begin with. Yeah. And then, you know,

00:19:35.609 --> 00:19:39.190
if I were teaching, I'm going to teach this today.

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I have a student coming in. She is like only

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eight years old. And so, you know, I would have

00:19:45.589 --> 00:19:49.470
her pick. Let's say today, let's start with A.

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Then maybe next day, next week, let's start with

00:19:52.940 --> 00:19:56.380
E flat. Yeah. Yeah. Something like that. Start

00:19:56.380 --> 00:20:08.059
your line with E flat. Yeah, like those little

00:20:08.059 --> 00:20:11.180
things get them creating new melodies. Yeah,

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absolutely. This is great because then it's not

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overwhelming. It's not. And you don't have to

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have a degree in jazz studies or something like

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that to be able to do it. It's really designed

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to get any teacher, any student playing. Thank

00:20:28.839 --> 00:20:32.880
you. Because like you said, I was more thinking

00:20:32.880 --> 00:20:36.579
of chord progressions. Like, oh my gosh, I have

00:20:36.579 --> 00:20:38.960
to learn all these chords. And then to me, I

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took a few months of jazz lessons during COVID

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and it was, I failed because I didn't have time

00:20:47.619 --> 00:20:52.500
to practice. And also I was so overwhelmed with

00:20:52.500 --> 00:20:54.960
the amount of extensions that you had to sort

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of memorize. Oh, that's hard. I don't think music

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that way. You know what I mean? I'm a trained

00:21:01.759 --> 00:21:05.799
classical music and I do, I am able to do harmonization

00:21:05.799 --> 00:21:08.579
easily. I'm able to do transposition easily.

00:21:09.000 --> 00:21:13.980
I do a classical style, but you know, improvisation,

00:21:13.980 --> 00:21:16.900
you know, but then when it comes to extension

00:21:16.900 --> 00:21:20.880
and then, Oh, flat five, my mind doesn't work

00:21:20.880 --> 00:21:23.099
that way. You know, it's interesting because

00:21:23.099 --> 00:21:26.000
that's the way that I was taught and I've talked

00:21:26.000 --> 00:21:28.259
to other jazz pianists and that's the way they

00:21:28.259 --> 00:21:29.799
were taught. So it's like this, this kind of

00:21:29.799 --> 00:21:31.819
recurring thing of like, okay, you're going to

00:21:31.819 --> 00:21:34.730
be a jazz pianist. Well, What you mostly do as

00:21:34.730 --> 00:21:37.890
a company. So now you have to memorize this exhausting

00:21:37.890 --> 00:21:42.309
list of chords and chord progressions. And that

00:21:42.309 --> 00:21:45.650
is necessary if you want to master jazz piano.

00:21:45.809 --> 00:21:48.410
Like if you want to master harmony, you need

00:21:48.410 --> 00:21:51.890
to know every chord type in multiple inversions,

00:21:51.890 --> 00:21:55.230
in different orchestrations, two hand, one hand.

00:21:55.349 --> 00:22:00.609
Like you do need that. But that way of starting.

00:22:01.659 --> 00:22:06.799
I think that it detracts people. And I learned

00:22:06.799 --> 00:22:09.119
that experience the hard way myself. When I was

00:22:09.119 --> 00:22:13.259
right out of school, I had someone through my

00:22:13.259 --> 00:22:15.420
church that wanted to take jazz lessons. She

00:22:15.420 --> 00:22:17.940
said, I want to do something jazzy. And I did

00:22:17.940 --> 00:22:20.519
the very first thing that you kind of mentioned.

00:22:20.579 --> 00:22:22.279
I was like, all right, let's work on some dominant

00:22:22.279 --> 00:22:25.259
ninth chords. And I think she lasted two lessons.

00:22:25.460 --> 00:22:28.299
And I'm like, what did I go wrong? Those are

00:22:28.299 --> 00:22:32.369
big words for a beginner. Yeah. Now let's bring

00:22:32.369 --> 00:22:34.670
your book back on screen. I want everyone to

00:22:34.670 --> 00:22:38.490
see more of what it offers. So if you scroll

00:22:38.490 --> 00:22:41.829
back towards the beginning of the book, that's

00:22:41.829 --> 00:22:45.670
where a lot of those other resources are. So

00:22:45.670 --> 00:22:49.130
if you do want to learn jazz harmony, I do have

00:22:49.130 --> 00:22:52.710
a page in there all about different jazz chords.

00:22:53.579 --> 00:22:56.579
Or if you do want to... Oh, yeah, right here,

00:22:56.720 --> 00:22:59.019
2 -5 -1. Yeah, so that's a little bit of the

00:22:59.019 --> 00:23:01.460
theory behind the 2 -5 -1 and why it's such a

00:23:01.460 --> 00:23:04.279
ubiquitous chord progression. If you want to

00:23:04.279 --> 00:23:06.539
learn how to do walking bass lines in your left

00:23:06.539 --> 00:23:08.440
hand, or even if you're a bass player, there's

00:23:08.440 --> 00:23:11.579
things in there. This is the bass line? Yes,

00:23:11.640 --> 00:23:14.299
yep. You know, Quentin, I'm sorry to interrupt,

00:23:14.380 --> 00:23:17.970
but bass line is also difficult. It is. It is.

00:23:18.009 --> 00:23:20.609
It's something that you hear it as jazz musician

00:23:20.609 --> 00:23:23.730
and then it's not easy. It doesn't come naturally.

00:23:23.730 --> 00:23:26.849
No, no. There are definitely things in there.

00:23:26.930 --> 00:23:29.730
There are rules. There's freedom, but there's

00:23:29.730 --> 00:23:34.250
still rules to it. And to do it convincingly.

00:23:34.809 --> 00:23:37.609
It's good to know what those typical rules are.

00:23:37.710 --> 00:23:40.890
So yeah, the books laid out to be, I mean, I

00:23:40.890 --> 00:23:43.950
think each concept is one, maybe two pages. So

00:23:43.950 --> 00:23:46.430
it's just a succinct way of saying this is what

00:23:46.430 --> 00:23:51.250
it is. This isn't super theory dense, heavy jargony

00:23:51.250 --> 00:23:54.819
stuff. It's meant for all instruments, too. That's

00:23:54.819 --> 00:23:57.640
why you saw that page about jazz guitar chords.

00:23:57.980 --> 00:24:00.819
They're your piano chords. So if somebody wants

00:24:00.819 --> 00:24:04.720
the top row is simple, what we call shell voicings,

00:24:04.720 --> 00:24:08.519
you only have the root in the third or the seventh.

00:24:09.220 --> 00:24:11.559
So that kind of walks through the chords that

00:24:11.559 --> 00:24:15.940
would apply for it. So this is great. Yeah. If

00:24:15.940 --> 00:24:19.039
you have a student that that's eager to really.

00:24:19.909 --> 00:24:23.130
run the full race of mastering harmony. But as

00:24:23.130 --> 00:24:26.190
you saw from the other section, that doesn't

00:24:26.190 --> 00:24:28.390
have to be the only thing you use the book for.

00:24:28.430 --> 00:24:30.670
You can use it for your eight -year -old student,

00:24:30.750 --> 00:24:33.990
so to speak. Oh, yeah, yeah, I can see that.

00:24:34.569 --> 00:24:37.789
Yes, perfect. But, you know, as a teacher, I

00:24:37.789 --> 00:24:40.470
can read this thing, right? Like a little bit

00:24:40.470 --> 00:24:46.250
more, let's say, filled with jargon and everything.

00:24:47.289 --> 00:24:49.549
when it comes to teaching eight -year -olds for

00:24:49.549 --> 00:24:51.950
example today i don't have to go through all

00:24:51.950 --> 00:24:55.490
that exactly i can just go straight to page 35

00:24:55.490 --> 00:24:59.609
that we first took a look at and start improvising

00:24:59.609 --> 00:25:01.950
without explaining just use these four notes

00:25:01.950 --> 00:25:04.109
that's right i will do the accompaniment part

00:25:04.109 --> 00:25:07.849
just no just do it that's the sort of thing yeah

00:25:07.849 --> 00:25:11.029
yeah when i i've talked to teachers before when

00:25:11.029 --> 00:25:12.940
i I'm giving them information about the book.

00:25:13.000 --> 00:25:15.039
I'll say like, you can start this in your first

00:25:15.039 --> 00:25:17.859
lesson and then grow with this book for years.

00:25:19.049 --> 00:25:21.670
You can use it right away and then it can be

00:25:21.670 --> 00:25:24.970
on your bookshelf, in your lesson, on your piano

00:25:24.970 --> 00:25:28.609
as you continue to grow in jazz. It's also got

00:25:28.609 --> 00:25:30.890
recommended recordings in there because a lot

00:25:30.890 --> 00:25:33.730
of jazz is learned through listening. So I break

00:25:33.730 --> 00:25:36.509
down recordings not only by subgenre, but also

00:25:36.509 --> 00:25:39.829
by instrument. So if you're like a high school

00:25:39.829 --> 00:25:43.170
band teacher and you want your trombone players

00:25:43.170 --> 00:25:46.410
to get inspired, you can show them some albums

00:25:46.410 --> 00:25:48.859
by trombone players and stuff like that. Oh,

00:25:48.859 --> 00:25:51.940
wow. That's cool. That's great. Yeah. Nice to

00:25:51.940 --> 00:25:54.380
be able to connect what you're doing with the

00:25:54.380 --> 00:25:58.420
actual playing actual pieces. Now you mentioned

00:25:58.420 --> 00:26:04.160
about part two. Right, right. So the first half

00:26:04.160 --> 00:26:07.380
of the book is where you are right now, or the

00:26:07.380 --> 00:26:10.039
information aspect, filling in those information

00:26:10.039 --> 00:26:12.819
gaps. What is jazz harmony? What are these kind

00:26:12.819 --> 00:26:16.839
of things? The second part is the songs. Yes,

00:26:16.839 --> 00:26:23.480
right here is the part two. And then let's say

00:26:23.480 --> 00:26:25.859
second piece is the Summer Storm Blues. So talking

00:26:25.859 --> 00:26:30.960
about blues. maybe more of a boogie boogie feel

00:26:30.960 --> 00:26:38.759
that kind of old school boogie sound. Um, it

00:26:38.759 --> 00:26:41.579
introduces kids to the 12 bar blues. There's

00:26:41.579 --> 00:26:46.460
an uptempo bebop one there. Oh yes. Dizzy Bob,

00:26:46.660 --> 00:26:51.920
uh, named after Dizzy Gillespie. Um, I also recorded

00:26:51.920 --> 00:26:58.500
sample solos of every tune where, um, I'm improvising

00:26:58.500 --> 00:27:00.720
with the parameters so students can hear it.

00:27:00.819 --> 00:27:03.420
And then also I recorded all the teacher parts

00:27:03.420 --> 00:27:06.559
as play alongs that are on Spotify and YouTube

00:27:06.559 --> 00:27:09.579
and all the streaming platforms. So it can be

00:27:09.579 --> 00:27:12.440
helpful, one, if a teacher doesn't want to play

00:27:12.440 --> 00:27:15.119
it in their lesson, or if you have like a band

00:27:15.119 --> 00:27:17.759
teacher that isn't really savvy with piano, they

00:27:17.759 --> 00:27:20.160
can just put on the recording. And then also

00:27:20.160 --> 00:27:24.059
students can practice at home. that's cool very

00:27:24.059 --> 00:27:27.779
practical yeah yeah that's very important because

00:27:27.779 --> 00:27:30.740
you first lesson you come and you really want

00:27:30.740 --> 00:27:32.839
to be able to play something instead of just

00:27:32.839 --> 00:27:36.920
listening to theory you know yeah yeah very nice

00:27:36.920 --> 00:27:40.200
yes i'm going to definitely use this now i understand

00:27:40.200 --> 00:27:43.240
that uh do you want to continue sharing i'm happy

00:27:43.240 --> 00:27:45.339
to i have to move on i think that that covers

00:27:45.339 --> 00:27:48.259
that covers the book it's uh it's on this is

00:27:48.259 --> 00:27:51.420
jazz .com and it's uh it's on amazon as well

00:27:51.720 --> 00:27:55.619
so okay this is jazz oh this is jazz .com i thought

00:27:55.619 --> 00:27:59.940
it was the quentinwalson .com that's also that's

00:27:59.940 --> 00:28:03.400
also that that uh website was my is like my artist

00:28:03.400 --> 00:28:06.539
website where i post my concerts and stuff this

00:28:06.539 --> 00:28:10.960
is jazz .com is specifically the the publisher,

00:28:11.200 --> 00:28:14.259
the course website, all of the stuff about teacher

00:28:14.259 --> 00:28:17.740
education. And then I also posted it on my artist

00:28:17.740 --> 00:28:20.500
website since I'm a performer as well. So you

00:28:20.500 --> 00:28:25.079
can find it on both. Wonderful. Now, I also noticed

00:28:25.079 --> 00:28:28.819
that there's a course that you teach, but it's

00:28:28.819 --> 00:28:31.900
actually, it's a pre -recorded on demand. You

00:28:31.900 --> 00:28:36.900
can purchase. Yes. I have courses on. jazz pedagogy.

00:28:37.140 --> 00:28:43.019
It's essentially expounding on the book. So going

00:28:43.019 --> 00:28:46.420
into more depth gives you that kind of benefit

00:28:46.420 --> 00:28:49.279
of somebody explaining it and playing examples

00:28:49.279 --> 00:28:51.400
and things like that. So that course is tied

00:28:51.400 --> 00:28:54.180
in with the book. And then I also have courses

00:28:54.180 --> 00:28:58.799
on jazz theory. I think that jazz theory to some

00:28:58.799 --> 00:29:01.799
people seems incredibly daunting and overwhelming.

00:29:02.519 --> 00:29:05.779
And a lot of jazz theory starts really high level.

00:29:05.880 --> 00:29:09.200
So what might be considered an intro to jazz

00:29:09.200 --> 00:29:12.099
theory course is actually like a college level

00:29:12.099 --> 00:29:15.240
jazz theory course. So the series I have is called

00:29:15.240 --> 00:29:18.380
Jazz Unlocked. So it basically kind of helps

00:29:18.380 --> 00:29:22.420
you enjoy jazz more. I know that sounds crazy,

00:29:22.460 --> 00:29:25.140
but I think that... understanding the way the

00:29:25.140 --> 00:29:28.160
music is structured helps us appreciate it even

00:29:28.160 --> 00:29:31.960
more. It's kind of like if you, for me, I love

00:29:31.960 --> 00:29:34.619
painting and architecture and like knowing the

00:29:34.619 --> 00:29:37.539
craftsmanship behind it helps me enjoy it more.

00:29:37.660 --> 00:29:41.420
So my big kind of eureka moment when I was in

00:29:41.420 --> 00:29:45.019
high school jazz band is we were listening to

00:29:45.019 --> 00:29:48.589
this. crazy fast version of Love for Sale by

00:29:48.589 --> 00:29:51.269
the Buddy Rich Big Band. And there's this tenor

00:29:51.269 --> 00:29:54.250
saxophone solo, and it's just this torrent of

00:29:54.250 --> 00:29:57.150
notes. And it's like way over my head. I don't

00:29:57.150 --> 00:30:00.029
understand how he knows what notes to play, how

00:30:00.029 --> 00:30:02.609
he knows how long to play, and then how the band

00:30:02.609 --> 00:30:05.690
knows when to come back in. Like, how does this

00:30:05.690 --> 00:30:08.509
solo happen for so long? And then everybody immediately

00:30:08.509 --> 00:30:12.609
knows. And my teacher explained that, well, He's

00:30:12.609 --> 00:30:15.029
improvising on a predetermined chord progression.

00:30:15.210 --> 00:30:17.849
The chord progression's already set. It's locked

00:30:17.849 --> 00:30:21.089
into time. So he's playing notes that work well

00:30:21.089 --> 00:30:24.670
with those chords. And then since it's a predetermined

00:30:24.670 --> 00:30:27.170
length, the whole band can just follow along

00:30:27.170 --> 00:30:29.210
with the chord progression. So everybody knows

00:30:29.210 --> 00:30:32.609
where everyone is all at once. And just that

00:30:32.609 --> 00:30:35.869
insight made jazz so much cooler for me and so

00:30:35.869 --> 00:30:37.710
much more fascinating because I could follow

00:30:37.710 --> 00:30:42.150
along and it's like I now understand. kind of

00:30:42.150 --> 00:30:45.210
how the magician did the trick kind of thing.

00:30:45.329 --> 00:30:50.910
So the theory courses seek to do that to people,

00:30:51.029 --> 00:30:53.309
to kind of give them this cool understanding

00:30:53.309 --> 00:30:56.430
of jazz. This is why the chords sound like this.

00:30:56.470 --> 00:31:01.390
This is why solos work like that. So yeah, so

00:31:01.390 --> 00:31:03.650
those are the courses they're available to. And

00:31:03.650 --> 00:31:05.829
then also I have one on piano history because

00:31:05.829 --> 00:31:09.490
I'm a history dork. I did one on jazz piano history.

00:31:10.389 --> 00:31:13.849
Wow. Yeah, but I can tell. I mean, I'm not calling

00:31:13.849 --> 00:31:20.630
you a dork. I didn't say that. But I can tell

00:31:20.630 --> 00:31:23.609
that you are history buff. Like when I see all

00:31:23.609 --> 00:31:29.430
the clips and you have like. 100 like 225 000

00:31:29.430 --> 00:31:32.309
followers on something something like that on

00:31:32.309 --> 00:31:36.390
instagram and then 3 800 subscribers on youtube

00:31:36.390 --> 00:31:39.069
i mean you can tell because it's so engaging

00:31:39.069 --> 00:31:42.369
very educational and then especially the part

00:31:42.369 --> 00:31:46.710
where you talk about you know very renowned historic

00:31:46.710 --> 00:31:51.230
jazz pianists jazz musicians and you're just

00:31:51.230 --> 00:31:55.329
giving the audience the context not just yeah

00:31:55.329 --> 00:31:59.369
right i love doing i love doing that just point

00:31:59.369 --> 00:32:03.869
blank and even before i i got into the book and

00:32:03.869 --> 00:32:07.009
teaching teachers that was something i was already

00:32:07.009 --> 00:32:10.289
doing um just kind of making jazz more accessible

00:32:10.289 --> 00:32:13.170
to everyone and that's something i do as a performer

00:32:13.170 --> 00:32:15.589
as well like in my concerts i love getting the

00:32:15.589 --> 00:32:18.289
backstory behind the composers or how the song

00:32:18.289 --> 00:32:20.390
works i think people connect with the music more

00:32:20.390 --> 00:32:24.400
especially since uh I'm an instrumental performer.

00:32:24.680 --> 00:32:28.440
I don't sing. I don't work with vocalists typically.

00:32:28.720 --> 00:32:33.660
So I found that sometimes audiences that aren't

00:32:33.660 --> 00:32:35.799
musicians themselves or aren't very musically

00:32:35.799 --> 00:32:39.920
savvy, it can be helpful for them to have kind

00:32:39.920 --> 00:32:43.039
of those guideposts, those little nuggets of

00:32:43.039 --> 00:32:45.859
information, whether it's biographical or analytical.

00:32:46.000 --> 00:32:48.319
It just helps them connect and enjoy the music

00:32:48.319 --> 00:32:51.059
a little bit more. You also give, you've been

00:32:51.059 --> 00:32:53.599
giving like, you know, workshops and training

00:32:53.599 --> 00:32:56.740
sessions in schools. That's amazing. So basically

00:32:56.740 --> 00:32:59.920
going to schools and then teach band, right?

00:32:59.980 --> 00:33:06.400
Yeah. Yeah. That's been really fun. I've been,

00:33:06.440 --> 00:33:08.900
I've done different residencies at everything

00:33:08.900 --> 00:33:12.220
from elementary schools where I'll take over

00:33:12.220 --> 00:33:15.539
their elementary classes for a whole week. So

00:33:15.539 --> 00:33:19.059
I get, I get like. All of the kindergartners

00:33:19.059 --> 00:33:22.099
and they have percussion and we're trading fours

00:33:22.099 --> 00:33:26.200
and doing like different jazz exercises. I was

00:33:26.200 --> 00:33:29.660
at a school in D .C. where I had everyone had

00:33:29.660 --> 00:33:32.779
the xylophones and I took out all of the bars

00:33:32.779 --> 00:33:36.339
except for notes so they could play the opening

00:33:36.339 --> 00:33:38.200
phrase to a don't mean a thing if it ain't got

00:33:38.200 --> 00:33:43.380
that swing. Yeah, it was cool. It's like a bunch

00:33:43.380 --> 00:33:47.119
of a bunch of. DC students were playing some

00:33:47.119 --> 00:33:50.140
Duke Ellington and it was a lot of fun. So I

00:33:50.140 --> 00:33:53.440
love getting to do that. I'm doing some stuff

00:33:53.440 --> 00:33:57.740
at the collegiate level this fall. And then I

00:33:57.740 --> 00:34:00.759
do teacher trainings as well. So that'll be like

00:34:00.759 --> 00:34:03.220
going into a music academy or a public school

00:34:03.220 --> 00:34:06.759
and just helping teachers. So just trying to

00:34:06.759 --> 00:34:09.659
do everything I can to help spread jazz and get

00:34:09.659 --> 00:34:14.619
people to enjoy it and play it. Wow. Obviously,

00:34:14.860 --> 00:34:18.239
you are a jazz pianist. You have this amazing

00:34:18.239 --> 00:34:21.840
solo career, too. That's the reason you want

00:34:21.840 --> 00:34:24.559
to really spread the gospel of jazz, I guess.

00:34:24.699 --> 00:34:28.400
But why jazz? Why do you want to really use this

00:34:28.400 --> 00:34:34.400
tool, music, to educate from young students to

00:34:34.400 --> 00:34:38.079
adults with jazz? Why jazz? I think jazz has

00:34:38.079 --> 00:34:44.860
such a freedom of expression. And it's not that

00:34:44.860 --> 00:34:47.119
I think they're not just that I should say, I

00:34:47.119 --> 00:34:49.659
think there are so many amazing things that,

00:34:49.659 --> 00:34:53.880
that all coalesce in the musical style of jazz.

00:34:53.980 --> 00:34:57.420
So for people that want to be very expressive,

00:34:57.619 --> 00:35:01.599
you have the avenues of improvisation that jazz

00:35:01.599 --> 00:35:04.360
offers for people that are very analytical. You

00:35:04.360 --> 00:35:06.619
have all the exciting music theory that jazz

00:35:06.619 --> 00:35:09.460
offers, whether it's the history, I think, or

00:35:09.460 --> 00:35:12.480
even if people just. resonate with it and they

00:35:12.480 --> 00:35:15.559
like the beat and the drive jazz has such an

00:35:15.559 --> 00:35:18.679
exciting feeling to it, that rhythmic pulse.

00:35:18.800 --> 00:35:21.699
So I think just the, from a musical standpoint,

00:35:21.719 --> 00:35:26.699
it kind of satisfies all of those inklings that,

00:35:26.760 --> 00:35:30.590
that one might experience. And then also, I mean,

00:35:30.590 --> 00:35:33.070
I love the idea of preservation. I think it's

00:35:33.070 --> 00:35:36.710
a very special type of cultural art form that

00:35:36.710 --> 00:35:39.969
is worthy of preserving. And when I speak to

00:35:39.969 --> 00:35:43.309
that, I'm also speaking to the swing style of

00:35:43.309 --> 00:35:46.789
jazz, which jazz is not limited to swing anymore.

00:35:47.010 --> 00:35:49.889
It hasn't been for some time, but I do think

00:35:49.889 --> 00:35:54.469
that the swing style of jazz should be preserved.

00:35:55.429 --> 00:35:59.840
But yeah, I think it's accessible to all. i think

00:35:59.840 --> 00:36:03.500
kids can enjoy jazz adults can enjoy jazz and

00:36:03.500 --> 00:36:06.099
i think it satisfies all those musical musical

00:36:06.099 --> 00:36:10.699
aspects yeah wow and also empowering too you

00:36:10.699 --> 00:36:14.239
know being able to create their own music yeah

00:36:14.239 --> 00:36:19.559
yeah absolutely yeah absolutely now um it's it's

00:36:19.559 --> 00:36:24.280
uh so admiring that you are able to teach group

00:36:24.280 --> 00:36:27.340
of young people to play a musical instrument

00:36:27.340 --> 00:36:30.659
because I'm more a one -on -one person, a classical

00:36:30.659 --> 00:36:37.139
musician. So how do you engage them? Because,

00:36:37.139 --> 00:36:40.639
you know, shorter attention span, you hear this

00:36:40.639 --> 00:36:46.440
a lot. But how do you excite them about learning

00:36:46.440 --> 00:36:50.699
music? That is a good question. I don't know

00:36:50.699 --> 00:36:56.269
if I've kind of self -analyzed. In that regard,

00:36:56.449 --> 00:37:00.670
I tried to. Let's see, I'm trying to think through

00:37:00.670 --> 00:37:06.050
like what I've done in classes before. I think

00:37:06.050 --> 00:37:09.710
doing hands on stuff is really exciting. I think

00:37:09.710 --> 00:37:13.210
allowing kids to create can be exciting. But

00:37:13.210 --> 00:37:18.269
have I had I definitely had like behavioral issues.

00:37:18.369 --> 00:37:21.349
I think certain age groups, they get distracted

00:37:21.349 --> 00:37:26.780
and sidetracked and. And yeah, I think any teacher

00:37:26.780 --> 00:37:30.079
has that difficulty. And that's one of the reasons

00:37:30.079 --> 00:37:33.719
I have so much respect for public school or even

00:37:33.719 --> 00:37:35.619
private school classroom teachers, because I

00:37:35.619 --> 00:37:39.480
can do it in a week, but I couldn't do it long

00:37:39.480 --> 00:37:42.519
term. It is so draining and it's such a unique

00:37:42.519 --> 00:37:46.280
style. So I have so much respect for that. But

00:37:46.280 --> 00:37:52.670
yeah, I try to engage the students kind of. set

00:37:52.670 --> 00:37:55.489
the set the bar high where where they can rise

00:37:55.489 --> 00:38:00.650
to the occasion um and and yeah do things that

00:38:00.650 --> 00:38:02.989
i think would be exciting for them one of the

00:38:02.989 --> 00:38:06.730
activities that i'll do um i'll say like everyone's

00:38:06.730 --> 00:38:10.150
a composer is i'll i'll give everyone like xylophones

00:38:10.150 --> 00:38:12.849
or something uh and and take out the bars that

00:38:12.849 --> 00:38:15.909
that wouldn't be tonally enjoyable so i'll usually

00:38:15.909 --> 00:38:18.550
give them like a pentatonic scale or even fewer

00:38:18.550 --> 00:38:21.210
notes than that and we'll go on the board and

00:38:21.210 --> 00:38:25.070
we'll write down certain moods like so it might

00:38:25.070 --> 00:38:28.309
be like energetic sad happy and then i'll have

00:38:28.309 --> 00:38:30.829
them write down or shout out musical characteristics

00:38:30.829 --> 00:38:34.070
that are attributed to that mood so if it's sad

00:38:34.070 --> 00:38:35.849
i'll be like is that slow or fast and they'll

00:38:35.849 --> 00:38:38.530
write slow is that major or minor and they'll

00:38:38.530 --> 00:38:41.949
put minor is that like uh loud or quiet and we'll

00:38:41.949 --> 00:38:45.570
do that and then We'll all improvise together.

00:38:45.769 --> 00:38:48.469
It sounds totally chaotic, by the way. It doesn't

00:38:48.469 --> 00:38:51.349
sound refined at all. But they feel like that

00:38:51.349 --> 00:38:55.210
they got to create music that didn't exist 20

00:38:55.210 --> 00:38:59.530
minutes before that. So and we'll kind of plug

00:38:59.530 --> 00:39:03.110
along where they get to create a story or create

00:39:03.110 --> 00:39:06.190
a musical piece. So when I do work with students,

00:39:06.269 --> 00:39:09.309
I really try to come up with stuff that is really

00:39:09.309 --> 00:39:12.309
engaging and challenging all at the same time.

00:39:14.199 --> 00:39:19.320
Wow. Bravo to you. Obviously, you've been quite

00:39:19.320 --> 00:39:23.639
very successful. Now, so let's dive into more

00:39:23.639 --> 00:39:27.880
business side of your being. And let's talk about

00:39:27.880 --> 00:39:31.500
social media and YouTube. Why not? It's really

00:39:31.500 --> 00:39:37.659
love and hate, right? But you are actually doing

00:39:37.659 --> 00:39:43.269
amazing. It's a lot of work. It is a lot of work.

00:39:43.449 --> 00:39:49.989
It is frustrating, though. I mean, yeah, it's

00:39:49.989 --> 00:39:54.010
a lot of work. I've done most of my stuff on

00:39:54.010 --> 00:39:57.010
Instagram. I'm in the process of pivoting to

00:39:57.010 --> 00:40:00.889
YouTube. I think one of the hardest things about

00:40:00.889 --> 00:40:06.150
it is being beholden to the algorithm. There's

00:40:06.150 --> 00:40:10.909
so much stuff that you would like to see. There

00:40:10.909 --> 00:40:14.389
are things that you, whether it's from a strategy

00:40:14.389 --> 00:40:18.590
point of view or from like a belief in your content

00:40:18.590 --> 00:40:24.489
or anything like that, where you put it up and

00:40:24.489 --> 00:40:26.210
the algorithm decides who it's going to show

00:40:26.210 --> 00:40:29.010
to. So that's really challenging. I think one

00:40:29.010 --> 00:40:31.289
of the things that's also challenging is that

00:40:31.289 --> 00:40:33.969
just because you have a certain amount of followers,

00:40:34.170 --> 00:40:36.409
that doesn't mean your followers get to see what

00:40:36.409 --> 00:40:38.929
you put out. And I think that is one of the most

00:40:38.929 --> 00:40:41.250
frustrating things about Instagram for me, not

00:40:41.250 --> 00:40:44.030
to just turn this into an Instagram bashing thing.

00:40:44.230 --> 00:40:47.429
But you mentioned I have a high follower count

00:40:47.429 --> 00:40:51.789
on Instagram, but Instagram won't show all of

00:40:51.789 --> 00:40:54.429
my followers my content. So it's disappointing

00:40:54.429 --> 00:40:56.030
because you're like, man, I'm really excited

00:40:56.030 --> 00:40:58.769
about this or I'll put a lot of love and labor

00:40:58.769 --> 00:41:01.489
into something. And you hope that it resonates

00:41:01.489 --> 00:41:05.250
with that audience. And then to find out that

00:41:05.250 --> 00:41:08.019
the audience didn't see it. because of something

00:41:08.019 --> 00:41:10.440
that's out of your control can be really discouraging.

00:41:10.559 --> 00:41:14.500
So I think recently I've been a little bit more

00:41:14.500 --> 00:41:17.739
discouraged by social media than encouraged,

00:41:17.840 --> 00:41:20.619
but I think the ultimate thing is to persevere.

00:41:20.699 --> 00:41:25.380
Like that was one of the things that really got

00:41:25.380 --> 00:41:28.039
me boosted on social media to begin with was

00:41:28.039 --> 00:41:32.360
just consistent posting and a consistent presence.

00:41:32.980 --> 00:41:36.349
Also your platform, this is jazz. Tell us more.

00:41:36.489 --> 00:41:39.369
I know there's a book that you can purchase.

00:41:39.670 --> 00:41:44.250
Do you also do blogs? And I know you have a podcast

00:41:44.250 --> 00:41:49.250
too, right? I've interviewed people that I will

00:41:49.250 --> 00:41:55.090
highlight or feature on This Is Jazz. So thisisjazz

00:41:55.090 --> 00:42:01.710
.com is the brand. It's something that I want

00:42:01.710 --> 00:42:05.130
to see grow and help. All teachers and even people

00:42:05.130 --> 00:42:08.489
that are self -taught musicians and music fans

00:42:08.489 --> 00:42:13.110
and things like that. So part of that has included,

00:42:13.250 --> 00:42:16.849
of course, the products, the books and the courses

00:42:16.849 --> 00:42:19.570
and stuff. But we want to offer free resources

00:42:19.570 --> 00:42:21.730
and things that have value, things that people

00:42:21.730 --> 00:42:25.969
enjoy. So I have blog stuff up there, articles.

00:42:27.469 --> 00:42:31.010
Some of them are. music theater related. Some

00:42:31.010 --> 00:42:33.230
of them are music industry related. Like I did

00:42:33.230 --> 00:42:36.250
one that was, how can you make money as a jazz

00:42:36.250 --> 00:42:39.090
musician? Because, you know, you come out of

00:42:39.090 --> 00:42:41.130
music school and you've got a very fancy jazz

00:42:41.130 --> 00:42:43.829
degree, but how are you going to pay the rent?

00:42:44.670 --> 00:42:47.630
So yeah, just trying to help people. And I think

00:42:47.630 --> 00:42:49.489
that one, it was just the whole blog was just

00:42:49.489 --> 00:42:52.510
like, here's 20 things that I've done personally

00:42:52.510 --> 00:42:56.219
as a jazz musician that that'll, that'll. make

00:42:56.219 --> 00:42:58.860
you money. And then the interviews has been incredible

00:42:58.860 --> 00:43:02.039
too, because I've had the chance to connect with

00:43:02.039 --> 00:43:07.960
some incredible musicians like Aaron Parks, Ari

00:43:07.960 --> 00:43:13.239
Honig, Pat Bianchi, just these amazing, like

00:43:13.239 --> 00:43:16.159
top tier jazz artists and just getting to sit

00:43:16.159 --> 00:43:18.219
down with them for an hour and talk music has

00:43:18.219 --> 00:43:22.219
been so cool. I recently did one with Dom Flemons,

00:43:22.219 --> 00:43:28.570
who is a a banjo player and a master of African

00:43:28.570 --> 00:43:31.670
-American folk music, like roots music. So just

00:43:31.670 --> 00:43:34.869
talking about what are the parallels to like

00:43:34.869 --> 00:43:38.869
blues music and jug band music of the 1920s and

00:43:38.869 --> 00:43:42.670
jazz. So it, I mean, it serves my greater audience.

00:43:42.710 --> 00:43:45.469
And then it also is like, it's personally really

00:43:45.469 --> 00:43:48.670
satisfying just to get to talk with these people.

00:43:49.090 --> 00:43:52.840
But yeah. Oh. I totally understand. That's the

00:43:52.840 --> 00:43:55.920
reason of the piano part too. It's like, yes,

00:43:56.000 --> 00:44:02.420
I want to serve my audience, but my audience

00:44:02.420 --> 00:44:04.920
is actually me. I'm thinking about myself. If

00:44:04.920 --> 00:44:07.519
I interview this person, then I get to learn.

00:44:07.659 --> 00:44:10.539
And then if I interview you, I get to learn more

00:44:10.539 --> 00:44:14.019
about jazz and how to teach jazz. So this has

00:44:14.019 --> 00:44:17.059
been really a wonderful conversation. Yeah, thank

00:44:17.059 --> 00:44:21.320
you. Hmm. What advice would you give for those

00:44:21.320 --> 00:44:23.719
that you mentioned about, you know, graduating

00:44:23.719 --> 00:44:27.420
from this fancy degree, but the thing is once

00:44:27.420 --> 00:44:30.679
you get that degree, it's like, now what do I

00:44:30.679 --> 00:44:34.260
do? Right. So, and then you built this empire

00:44:34.260 --> 00:44:39.420
of this is jazz. So, but where do you, do you

00:44:39.420 --> 00:44:42.300
start, you know, you can't just think about this

00:44:42.300 --> 00:44:44.760
big thing, but you have to start one step at

00:44:44.760 --> 00:44:50.239
a time, you know? Yeah. I think people should,

00:44:50.320 --> 00:44:52.679
well, one understand that they have to do multiple

00:44:52.679 --> 00:44:55.199
things. Like you have to do multiple streams

00:44:55.199 --> 00:45:01.260
of income. So that, that can be teach. Like I

00:45:01.260 --> 00:45:03.119
still teach private piano lessons. I love teaching

00:45:03.119 --> 00:45:06.000
private piano lessons. Like I get to connect

00:45:06.000 --> 00:45:08.039
with students and I get to be really close with

00:45:08.039 --> 00:45:10.780
families. But yeah, so like it can be teaching,

00:45:10.900 --> 00:45:14.019
it can be gigging just within the realm of gigging.

00:45:14.059 --> 00:45:17.690
There are, there are so many avenues. for gigs

00:45:17.690 --> 00:45:20.909
if you live in a major city i would try to do

00:45:20.909 --> 00:45:24.010
corporate gigs get on the roster of as many agencies

00:45:24.010 --> 00:45:27.530
as you can where i mean i do those where there's

00:45:27.530 --> 00:45:30.269
a law firm that's having a yearly celebration

00:45:30.269 --> 00:45:33.929
and you're the background artist or like um if

00:45:33.929 --> 00:45:35.869
you live in an area that has a bunch of wineries

00:45:35.869 --> 00:45:41.349
and breweries like you've got to learn how to

00:45:41.349 --> 00:45:44.909
be a performer and a lot of that is through background

00:45:44.909 --> 00:45:49.239
music gigs like You have to master your art of

00:45:49.239 --> 00:45:51.599
doing it in front of people. You have to master

00:45:51.599 --> 00:45:53.739
your business acumen. You have to master your

00:45:53.739 --> 00:45:57.139
communication skills, all of that. So background

00:45:57.139 --> 00:46:01.539
gigs is where it usually starts. I know we all

00:46:01.539 --> 00:46:05.480
want to play at Blue's Alley or Village Vanguard

00:46:05.480 --> 00:46:08.139
or any of that, but you got to do your background

00:46:08.139 --> 00:46:13.500
gigs. And then I think a big thing too that would

00:46:13.500 --> 00:46:17.920
be a pitfall to avoid. for beginner jazz artists,

00:46:18.199 --> 00:46:20.019
and it could be beginner artists in general,

00:46:20.099 --> 00:46:26.119
is that the music industry is not what you thought

00:46:26.119 --> 00:46:29.500
it was in regards to like traditional success

00:46:29.500 --> 00:46:32.239
stories. And especially, I mean, I was in college

00:46:32.239 --> 00:46:36.340
over 10 years ago when Spotify was kind of just.

00:46:36.760 --> 00:46:39.159
picking up steam and stuff like that. But like

00:46:39.159 --> 00:46:41.960
the whole concept of I'm going to get signed

00:46:41.960 --> 00:46:44.500
to a record label and then I'm going to be rich

00:46:44.500 --> 00:46:46.880
or these kinds of things, or I, well, if I just

00:46:46.880 --> 00:46:49.619
get an agent, then I'll be set. Or if I just

00:46:49.619 --> 00:46:52.719
get a manager, these kinds of really traditional

00:46:52.719 --> 00:46:55.719
sounding paths to success in the music career,

00:46:55.800 --> 00:46:59.519
I have found have been more of a time sink in

00:46:59.519 --> 00:47:03.500
an effort sink. than actually pay out dividends

00:47:03.500 --> 00:47:06.539
that are actually worth it. So I think if students

00:47:06.539 --> 00:47:09.840
understand that, or not students, but young artists

00:47:09.840 --> 00:47:12.199
and young entrepreneurs understand that they

00:47:12.199 --> 00:47:16.159
shouldn't put their hopes in a traditional model

00:47:16.159 --> 00:47:18.639
and should instead work on other models, that

00:47:18.639 --> 00:47:22.599
would be helpful. And I guess the last thing

00:47:22.599 --> 00:47:25.960
I would say, well, I guess there's a few things.

00:47:26.780 --> 00:47:28.940
don't hope that Spotify is going to pay your

00:47:28.940 --> 00:47:30.460
bills and don't hope that YouTube is going to

00:47:30.460 --> 00:47:33.719
pay your bills. Like I think people also will

00:47:33.719 --> 00:47:36.179
get these kinds of false misconceptions that

00:47:36.179 --> 00:47:39.579
if they just nail that Spotify editorial playlist,

00:47:39.659 --> 00:47:42.699
then they're going to be raking in money. Don't,

00:47:42.699 --> 00:47:46.039
don't bet on that. So yeah, it's a lot of hard

00:47:46.039 --> 00:47:49.039
work. It's diversifying what you do as a professional

00:47:49.039 --> 00:47:54.360
musician and it's not giving up. It's just. persevering

00:47:54.360 --> 00:47:56.199
and doing it and doing it and doing it and doing

00:47:56.199 --> 00:48:00.460
it. Yeah, that's true. That's true. So let's

00:48:00.460 --> 00:48:04.579
talk about your album, Retro Future. Yeah. That

00:48:04.579 --> 00:48:08.119
blends inspiration from Philonious Monk to Jason

00:48:08.119 --> 00:48:11.360
Moran. Yeah. Jason Moran. He's an incredible

00:48:11.360 --> 00:48:16.099
pianist. Yeah. So the album Retro Future we did

00:48:16.099 --> 00:48:19.159
out last year, it was with my trio, piano, bass,

00:48:19.239 --> 00:48:24.469
and drum set. And it's, It has swing in the jazz

00:48:24.469 --> 00:48:26.889
world. We refer to that as straight ahead, straight

00:48:26.889 --> 00:48:32.929
ahead jazz. And for me, I've always been so inspired

00:48:32.929 --> 00:48:38.590
and my attention is always so captured by pianists

00:48:38.590 --> 00:48:43.420
that. kind of play with the boundaries, like

00:48:43.420 --> 00:48:46.599
are really kind of pushing. So like Flonius Monk

00:48:46.599 --> 00:48:49.320
to me is a great example of that. He swings,

00:48:49.539 --> 00:48:53.780
he uses traditional chord progressions, but he

00:48:53.780 --> 00:48:57.300
has a certain percussiveness to his playing.

00:48:57.480 --> 00:49:00.739
He's not afraid to experiment with dissonance.

00:49:01.039 --> 00:49:05.280
The same thing goes with like a lot of Duke Ellington's

00:49:05.280 --> 00:49:07.559
trio recordings. He didn't make many, but of

00:49:07.559 --> 00:49:10.230
them, They're like, wow, this is coming from

00:49:10.230 --> 00:49:12.829
that super popular big band artist. Like this

00:49:12.829 --> 00:49:16.869
is pretty out there. So I really like that balance

00:49:16.869 --> 00:49:20.750
of traditional and pushing the boundaries. And

00:49:20.750 --> 00:49:23.329
a modern artist like that would be Jason Moran.

00:49:23.530 --> 00:49:27.550
You can hear he's inspired by people like Fats

00:49:27.550 --> 00:49:30.389
Waller, but then can play some stuff that is

00:49:30.389 --> 00:49:34.750
just, it's kind of atonal, but it's also really,

00:49:34.869 --> 00:49:38.599
really fascinating. um that's where the the name

00:49:38.599 --> 00:49:41.219
retro future comes from i wanted to look back

00:49:41.219 --> 00:49:44.579
to the traditions of jazz but also have my own

00:49:44.579 --> 00:49:48.800
modern take to it and it has i think i can't

00:49:48.800 --> 00:49:50.500
remember how many tracks eight or nine tracks

00:49:50.500 --> 00:49:53.840
or something and many of them are originals and

00:49:53.840 --> 00:49:56.239
they all kind of will play around with that so

00:49:56.239 --> 00:50:01.960
the first one um I'm beating my own track names

00:50:01.960 --> 00:50:03.840
right now. But anyway, they'll do that. They

00:50:03.840 --> 00:50:06.719
kind of play around with that dissonance while

00:50:06.719 --> 00:50:09.900
swinging. And it was just so much fun. It was

00:50:09.900 --> 00:50:12.219
an idea that had been in my head for a while,

00:50:12.340 --> 00:50:14.340
like a sonic idea, like a sound that had been

00:50:14.340 --> 00:50:17.000
in my head for a while. And it was really cool

00:50:17.000 --> 00:50:21.960
to hear that realized and made tangible. They

00:50:21.960 --> 00:50:25.130
are all original, as in your original one. Pieces?

00:50:25.230 --> 00:50:29.210
Yes. Yeah. Original compositions. I believe the

00:50:29.210 --> 00:50:32.949
only covers we did was Take Five. Right. Yes.

00:50:33.090 --> 00:50:35.409
I heard that. Yeah. That's your solo, don't you?

00:50:35.429 --> 00:50:39.670
No? Yeah. Take Five was solo piano. Tracks on

00:50:39.670 --> 00:50:42.010
there that are solo piano. Yeah. I mean, Take

00:50:42.010 --> 00:50:44.809
Five, I think it's great. Sometimes I think a

00:50:44.809 --> 00:50:48.880
little, for a little while. it was kind of relegated

00:50:48.880 --> 00:50:52.320
to like being too popular kind of like like a

00:50:52.320 --> 00:50:54.900
band playing freebird or something like oh don't

00:50:54.900 --> 00:50:57.199
do that that's been over overdone but it's like

00:50:57.199 --> 00:50:59.820
you know it's a cool tune and people love it

00:50:59.820 --> 00:51:05.119
like my first reel that that went viral on instagram

00:51:05.119 --> 00:51:07.780
was me breaking down the theory of take five

00:51:07.780 --> 00:51:10.699
and it's like that song resonates with people

00:51:10.699 --> 00:51:13.340
like just because something's popular doesn't

00:51:13.340 --> 00:51:16.619
mean it's it's like uncool so anyway That's a

00:51:16.619 --> 00:51:21.539
different thing. But yeah, so we did Retro Future.

00:51:21.719 --> 00:51:25.619
We printed it on vinyl, which was a goal of mine

00:51:25.619 --> 00:51:29.659
since I was in high school. It was fun. Wow.

00:51:29.780 --> 00:51:34.219
And so now this Retro Future is available on

00:51:34.219 --> 00:51:37.619
streaming services like Spotify, iTunes. Yep,

00:51:37.760 --> 00:51:39.960
it's on all the streaming services. And that

00:51:39.960 --> 00:51:42.679
one's on QuentinWalson .com because that one's

00:51:42.679 --> 00:51:46.920
my artist website. I try to... keep them a little

00:51:46.920 --> 00:51:49.880
bit separate. This is jazz. I don't want to just

00:51:49.880 --> 00:51:55.360
have it up there just to sell my own music. I'd

00:51:55.360 --> 00:51:58.000
love This Is Jazz to grow to have other teachers

00:51:58.000 --> 00:52:00.639
involved and other books and other things. So

00:52:00.639 --> 00:52:02.400
I want it to be something kind of bigger than

00:52:02.400 --> 00:52:05.940
myself. But yeah, QuentinWilson .com has got

00:52:05.940 --> 00:52:10.159
my records and stuff like that. How was jazz

00:52:10.159 --> 00:52:16.000
being introduced to you? Did you... start out

00:52:16.000 --> 00:52:20.079
as a regular like a piano lessons like you know

00:52:20.079 --> 00:52:23.559
learn middle c and all the stuff and you know

00:52:23.559 --> 00:52:28.280
major minor chords and yeah yeah so when i was

00:52:28.280 --> 00:52:33.059
i think 12 yeah i think when i was 12 my mom

00:52:33.059 --> 00:52:39.300
bought this 1898 giant upright piano beautiful

00:52:39.300 --> 00:52:43.340
mahogany cabinet off of ebay and my dad like

00:52:43.719 --> 00:52:45.719
put it in the back of the pickup truck and drove

00:52:45.719 --> 00:52:48.000
it and we backed up to the house and pushed the

00:52:48.000 --> 00:52:50.739
piano in. And I was like a moth through a flame.

00:52:50.800 --> 00:52:56.300
I was just all over it. And it had to get fixed

00:52:56.300 --> 00:52:58.420
up. So while they were getting it fixed up, I

00:52:58.420 --> 00:53:01.300
got one of those tiny little like 50 key Yamaha,

00:53:01.420 --> 00:53:05.960
no weighted keys pianos. And I was tinkering

00:53:05.960 --> 00:53:08.699
on that in my room. And so I was teaching myself

00:53:08.699 --> 00:53:12.610
for about a year. And I was figuring it out and

00:53:12.610 --> 00:53:15.030
I was really, really enjoying it. And my parents

00:53:15.030 --> 00:53:18.110
saw that, okay, this isn't just like a passing

00:53:18.110 --> 00:53:21.409
fad. He's genuinely interested in it. So they

00:53:21.409 --> 00:53:23.769
got me piano lessons. They got me traditional

00:53:23.769 --> 00:53:27.690
style piano lessons. I had a great teacher that

00:53:27.690 --> 00:53:30.650
was open to jazz, but she didn't have a strong

00:53:30.650 --> 00:53:33.150
jazz background. So that's where the whole Martha

00:53:33.150 --> 00:53:36.349
Muir stuff came in. Like she did her best to

00:53:36.349 --> 00:53:40.179
find resources. that would match my my enjoyment

00:53:40.179 --> 00:53:44.039
of jazz i also was really interested in ragtime

00:53:44.039 --> 00:53:47.619
and boogie woogie probably at the time for the

00:53:47.619 --> 00:53:49.400
majority of my middle school and high school

00:53:49.400 --> 00:53:52.079
years i would have told you that i preferred

00:53:52.079 --> 00:53:55.199
ragtime and boogie woogie and i think that was

00:53:55.199 --> 00:53:59.530
more of just not being exposed to jazz proper

00:53:59.530 --> 00:54:03.329
like i did not being uh super familiar with who

00:54:03.329 --> 00:54:06.789
oscar peterson was or bill evan was or mary lou

00:54:06.789 --> 00:54:10.210
williams or anything like that um and then the

00:54:10.210 --> 00:54:13.269
really interesting kind of side story that's

00:54:13.269 --> 00:54:17.670
so necessary to telling my my jazz story is that

00:54:17.670 --> 00:54:22.809
i was in a bluegrass band when i was in uh cool

00:54:22.809 --> 00:54:26.929
cool yeah so i i love bluegrass yeah i grew up

00:54:26.929 --> 00:54:30.260
in virginia and there is a big bluegrass presence

00:54:30.260 --> 00:54:34.380
there and the thing with bluegrass is it also

00:54:34.380 --> 00:54:37.519
has a lot of improvisation and there's a lot

00:54:37.519 --> 00:54:40.059
of similar structures you're improvising over

00:54:40.059 --> 00:54:43.460
the set chord progression in a performance it'll

00:54:43.460 --> 00:54:46.219
alternate between improvised solos and verses

00:54:46.219 --> 00:54:49.099
so you'll sing the verse then there's a guitar

00:54:49.099 --> 00:54:51.519
solo sing the verse then a fiddle solo sing the

00:54:51.519 --> 00:54:55.880
verse than a mandolin solo um So I was doing

00:54:55.880 --> 00:54:59.860
that in parallel to my piano lessons. And it

00:54:59.860 --> 00:55:02.539
wasn't until I think junior year of high school

00:55:02.539 --> 00:55:05.820
that they finally overlapped. And I realized

00:55:05.820 --> 00:55:08.940
I could take my love of improvisation that's

00:55:08.940 --> 00:55:12.239
in this genre and blend it with my love of piano

00:55:12.239 --> 00:55:16.239
that's over here. And once they met, that's where

00:55:16.239 --> 00:55:19.260
I really started pursuing jazz. But by that time

00:55:19.260 --> 00:55:22.260
I was a junior in high school. I told my teacher

00:55:22.260 --> 00:55:25.750
like within, I didn't have very much time. I

00:55:25.750 --> 00:55:27.469
was like, hey, I think I want to go to college

00:55:27.469 --> 00:55:30.949
for jazz. She was like, okay, then we've got

00:55:30.949 --> 00:55:33.570
to get you ready for an audition in a few months.

00:55:35.389 --> 00:55:38.269
Wow. But once you get caught by the bug, you're

00:55:38.269 --> 00:55:42.630
on your way, right? Yeah. But that, I don't know,

00:55:42.650 --> 00:55:45.869
that inspiration is we're trying to cultivate

00:55:45.869 --> 00:55:50.829
to students, no? Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. Because,

00:55:50.869 --> 00:55:54.340
I mean, you don't. It's tough with trying to

00:55:54.340 --> 00:55:56.380
cultivate inspiration because a student doesn't

00:55:56.380 --> 00:55:58.320
know what they're going to love as soon as they

00:55:58.320 --> 00:56:00.559
know what they're going to be passionate about.

00:56:02.659 --> 00:56:07.300
Like, I mean, this is my son is four. And I remember

00:56:07.300 --> 00:56:10.079
I was doing some work and I put a Beethoven record

00:56:10.079 --> 00:56:12.699
on to do some work and I turned around and he's

00:56:12.699 --> 00:56:18.039
just transfixed. He's just amazed at Beethoven.

00:56:18.059 --> 00:56:20.599
And it's like, he didn't know that he was going

00:56:20.599 --> 00:56:23.010
to. be it in love with Beethoven and students

00:56:23.010 --> 00:56:26.110
might not know that they're going to love whatever

00:56:26.110 --> 00:56:28.789
music they love. So, yeah, we as teachers try

00:56:28.789 --> 00:56:31.289
to expose our students to various things, hoping

00:56:31.289 --> 00:56:36.690
that something grabs hold of them. Yeah. Now,

00:56:36.969 --> 00:56:39.869
I want to talk about improvisation, the importance

00:56:39.869 --> 00:56:44.530
of. So, you know, that you mentioned about, oh,

00:56:44.590 --> 00:56:47.590
bluegrass being so similar to the jazz structure

00:56:47.590 --> 00:56:51.019
where there's this part and then the. improvisation

00:56:51.019 --> 00:56:54.280
part and then the band comes back. It used to

00:56:54.280 --> 00:57:00.239
be like this in Baroque music. Right? Yes. We

00:57:00.239 --> 00:57:04.840
need that improv back into classical music too.

00:57:05.420 --> 00:57:10.780
That trend is happening in a teaching level.

00:57:11.119 --> 00:57:15.639
A lot more teachers are now being really taught

00:57:15.639 --> 00:57:19.750
and encouraged to teach. students to improvise.

00:57:19.889 --> 00:57:24.269
So I think it's important to ask you this question.

00:57:24.909 --> 00:57:30.269
How do you think music teachers, how important

00:57:30.269 --> 00:57:33.469
is this to teach young people improvisation?

00:57:33.489 --> 00:57:35.849
I think it's incredible. And I love that you

00:57:35.849 --> 00:57:38.110
touched on, I think it's incredibly important.

00:57:38.289 --> 00:57:41.269
And I love that you touched on Baroque improvisation.

00:57:41.309 --> 00:57:44.469
I remember learning in college about Basso Continuo

00:57:44.469 --> 00:57:46.969
and like, wait a second, this is, this is. or

00:57:46.969 --> 00:57:50.190
jazz is like history repeating itself because

00:57:50.190 --> 00:57:52.449
that came first, of course. But yeah, I mean,

00:57:52.449 --> 00:57:54.550
you get the baseline and the intervals above

00:57:54.550 --> 00:57:56.750
and then you constructing all these things and,

00:57:56.769 --> 00:58:00.469
and yeah, so that's incredible. And it's very

00:58:00.469 --> 00:58:03.230
similar to the way a jazz lead sheet is arranged

00:58:03.230 --> 00:58:08.710
today. And I do think that there is a growing

00:58:08.710 --> 00:58:13.780
sense of the importance. importance of improvisation.

00:58:13.880 --> 00:58:18.079
And I think that's also coupled with, or I think

00:58:18.079 --> 00:58:21.659
that the necessary predicate for that is people

00:58:21.659 --> 00:58:26.079
realizing what has been lost by not having improvisation.

00:58:26.079 --> 00:58:30.340
Because when we talk about the great composers,

00:58:30.420 --> 00:58:33.440
commonly Bach, Mozart, and Beethoven, we all

00:58:33.440 --> 00:58:36.219
know that they were incredible improvisers. All

00:58:36.219 --> 00:58:38.639
three of them. I mean, there's this, I mean,

00:58:38.659 --> 00:58:42.159
Bach was, We know that he could improvise on

00:58:42.159 --> 00:58:45.460
a fugue level, which blows my mind to improvise

00:58:45.460 --> 00:58:49.619
four separate voices. And then we know Mozart,

00:58:49.659 --> 00:58:52.420
of course, improvising. And then Beethoven, there's

00:58:52.420 --> 00:58:54.820
that story of him turning someone's theme upside

00:58:54.820 --> 00:58:56.840
down. I don't know if that's true or not, but

00:58:56.840 --> 00:58:59.159
we know that they were incredible improvisers.

00:58:59.320 --> 00:59:02.460
So I think we're aware that something is missing

00:59:02.460 --> 00:59:05.980
from the core pedagogy. So it's a really exciting

00:59:05.980 --> 00:59:10.289
time for, I think. jazz to be one of the more

00:59:10.289 --> 00:59:12.829
accessible ways for that to make its way back.

00:59:12.989 --> 00:59:16.429
I don't think jazz is the only way to bring improvisation

00:59:16.429 --> 00:59:20.730
back. I think there's a lot of ways to improvise.

00:59:21.010 --> 00:59:24.110
I think one of the benefits with jazz improvisation

00:59:24.110 --> 00:59:26.949
is that it has that kind of language that goes

00:59:26.949 --> 00:59:29.190
with it. Like if you're going to learn jazz,

00:59:29.309 --> 00:59:33.829
you kind of have an idea or ready -made examples

00:59:34.719 --> 00:59:36.980
of master improvisers so you can say okay that's

00:59:36.980 --> 00:59:41.000
what i want to achieve um i personally haven't

00:59:41.000 --> 00:59:45.699
looked deep enough into 20th century classical

00:59:45.699 --> 00:59:48.880
improvisation or 21st century classical improvisation

00:59:48.880 --> 00:59:52.119
um so i'm not sure exactly what the language

00:59:52.119 --> 00:59:55.739
is for that style of improvisation but i can't

00:59:55.739 --> 00:59:58.639
say it's it's incredibly important it it has

00:59:58.639 --> 01:00:02.780
kids experiencing creativity in a different way.

01:00:02.840 --> 01:00:05.239
I think it uses different parts of the brain.

01:00:05.880 --> 01:00:10.519
It helps budding composers getting that idea

01:00:10.519 --> 01:00:13.860
of creating something in real time. It's a way

01:00:13.860 --> 01:00:17.480
to process emotions. I know before I ever put

01:00:17.480 --> 01:00:20.099
pen to paper as a composer, just sitting down

01:00:20.099 --> 01:00:24.119
at the piano and just making stuff up as a 13

01:00:24.119 --> 01:00:26.360
or a 14 year old. So I think there's something

01:00:26.360 --> 01:00:29.260
that's deeply important about it. regardless

01:00:29.260 --> 01:00:32.559
of how it comes out yeah and then you know we

01:00:32.559 --> 01:00:37.039
always say music is like is language so you know

01:00:37.039 --> 01:00:40.840
when we speak our native language how we started

01:00:40.840 --> 01:00:43.880
learning the language is by speaking listening

01:00:43.880 --> 01:00:47.199
and speaking so listening is there but speaking

01:00:47.199 --> 01:00:50.219
is not there in music education was not there

01:00:50.219 --> 01:00:53.320
for a while you know so I think in that sense

01:00:53.320 --> 01:00:56.780
improvisation and composing learning to compose

01:00:56.780 --> 01:01:01.170
is equally important yeah as important as reading

01:01:01.170 --> 01:01:06.929
yeah yeah absolutely yeah and then and then trying

01:01:06.929 --> 01:01:10.190
to equip teachers to do that because then we

01:01:10.190 --> 01:01:13.429
can recognize the need of of it and then how

01:01:13.429 --> 01:01:16.989
do we get from point a to point b so um but yeah

01:01:16.989 --> 01:01:19.590
i'm so happy that it's that it's starting to

01:01:19.590 --> 01:01:22.090
really start to to build up steam i mean i've

01:01:22.090 --> 01:01:24.210
even seen it in some method books like some really

01:01:24.210 --> 01:01:27.349
traditional method books and their theory you'll

01:01:27.349 --> 01:01:30.110
do your theory homework and it'll say like finish

01:01:30.110 --> 01:01:33.510
these melodies or improvise with these notes

01:01:33.510 --> 01:01:36.730
and it's just baby steps but at least it's it's

01:01:36.730 --> 01:01:40.320
making a conscious effort to bring improvisation

01:01:40.320 --> 01:01:44.639
and creativity back into just standard musical

01:01:44.639 --> 01:01:50.639
study. So what's next for you? Is there any exciting

01:01:50.639 --> 01:01:53.559
project coming up in terms of like a solo work

01:01:53.559 --> 01:01:58.099
or trio, maybe both? And also I want to know

01:01:58.099 --> 01:02:04.380
the next step for this jazz. Yes. So a few answers,

01:02:04.420 --> 01:02:08.070
I guess for my. Trio stuff for my artistic stuff.

01:02:08.369 --> 01:02:12.849
I am, I've got probably close to another album's

01:02:12.849 --> 01:02:18.369
worth of originals. And I'd love to record them.

01:02:18.489 --> 01:02:21.530
I think I want to play them more like in the

01:02:21.530 --> 01:02:24.150
concert setting, just really, really feel them

01:02:24.150 --> 01:02:28.110
out. I love my band. I have Daniel Kelly on drums

01:02:28.110 --> 01:02:31.349
and Jacob Pembleton on bass. They're both in

01:02:31.349 --> 01:02:36.699
my area around the DC Virginia area. And, It's

01:02:36.699 --> 01:02:38.900
incredible to be able to write something that

01:02:38.900 --> 01:02:41.280
kind of lives in your head and then they take

01:02:41.280 --> 01:02:43.460
it and take it to places that you couldn't imagine.

01:02:43.760 --> 01:02:47.300
And so it's an incredible band. So I'm not exactly

01:02:47.300 --> 01:02:53.099
sure when we'll record those. I often feel like

01:02:53.099 --> 01:02:55.900
I don't have enough time in the day to do things.

01:02:56.380 --> 01:02:58.440
But yeah, so that's something that's probably

01:02:58.440 --> 01:03:02.699
on the greater horizon. For This Is Jazz, I'm

01:03:02.699 --> 01:03:08.349
planning on a new book. um for students so not

01:03:08.349 --> 01:03:10.269
necessarily geared specifically toward teachers

01:03:10.269 --> 01:03:13.989
but a repertoire book will likely be coming out

01:03:13.989 --> 01:03:17.869
uh late winter or early spring of next year um

01:03:17.869 --> 01:03:21.489
i'll probably be premiering it at the mtna conference

01:03:21.489 --> 01:03:24.349
that's where i premiered um how to teach jazz

01:03:24.349 --> 01:03:28.409
improvisation this year okay fantastic so what's

01:03:28.409 --> 01:03:32.510
so different about from the this is uh i mean

01:03:32.510 --> 01:03:37.000
how to improvise book that you yeah i don't want

01:03:37.000 --> 01:03:40.619
to give it all away but uh but it'll uh i can

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i can say that it will be jazz repertoire for

01:03:44.760 --> 01:03:47.039
for students so i think that that's that's as

01:03:47.039 --> 01:03:50.480
far as i'll go i i think teachers will find it

01:03:50.480 --> 01:03:55.179
uh novel in a good way not not gimmicky i think

01:03:55.179 --> 01:03:58.500
they'll find it novel something that similar

01:03:58.500 --> 01:04:01.719
to how to teach jazz improvisation fills a gap

01:04:01.719 --> 01:04:05.820
that currently isn't there in the resources that

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are available. And I've been testing these compositions

01:04:10.840 --> 01:04:13.800
out with my students and they really enjoy them.

01:04:14.619 --> 01:04:17.860
One of the things that I'm really trying to do

01:04:17.860 --> 01:04:21.300
is make sure that even if they're intermediate

01:04:21.300 --> 01:04:26.019
or lower level compositions, that they use actual

01:04:26.019 --> 01:04:29.079
techniques and melodies that you would expect

01:04:29.079 --> 01:04:32.179
to hear on a jazz recording. I think sometimes

01:04:32.179 --> 01:04:36.210
jazz repertoire, jazz method book repertoire

01:04:36.210 --> 01:04:41.510
has almost become its own genre. Again, this

01:04:41.510 --> 01:04:45.119
isn't to throw any composers under the bus. sometimes

01:04:45.119 --> 01:04:49.119
it verges on parody of jazz. I don't think they're

01:04:49.119 --> 01:04:51.300
trying to parody, but sometimes things can sound

01:04:51.300 --> 01:04:53.760
a little corny, a little campy. So I really want

01:04:53.760 --> 01:04:56.500
to make sure that any composition that I put

01:04:56.500 --> 01:04:59.619
out there sounds like you could hear it off of

01:04:59.619 --> 01:05:02.079
Miles Davis' record from the 50s, something like

01:05:02.079 --> 01:05:05.820
that. So anyway, I probably have given away too

01:05:05.820 --> 01:05:09.739
much. I think teachers will love it. I'll stop

01:05:09.739 --> 01:05:15.699
there. Oh, I can't wait. I can't wait. We're

01:05:15.699 --> 01:05:18.860
toward the end of our conversation. What would

01:05:18.860 --> 01:05:21.940
be one takeaway from our conversation today?

01:05:22.260 --> 01:05:27.280
I'm sorry, I'm not a jazz pianist. You might

01:05:27.280 --> 01:05:32.119
want to talk more about this jazz pianist and

01:05:32.119 --> 01:05:36.940
that, but we basically touched upon basic information

01:05:36.940 --> 01:05:40.900
about jazz today. What would be one takeaway?

01:05:41.619 --> 01:05:45.670
What's this one that my my audience to understand

01:05:45.670 --> 01:05:50.170
i think don't be don't be scared of jazz like

01:05:50.170 --> 01:05:53.369
anyone can play jazz anyone can improvise there

01:05:53.369 --> 01:05:55.809
there's there's that fear of what if i play something

01:05:55.809 --> 01:05:57.989
wrong or i don't know how to do this i'm not

01:05:57.989 --> 01:06:00.349
a master therefore i've never been trained in

01:06:00.349 --> 01:06:04.210
it you can't like it is totally doable um yeah

01:06:04.210 --> 01:06:06.789
don't be don't be afraid of jazz it's so much

01:06:06.789 --> 01:06:10.000
fun to play Yeah, I think that would be the biggest

01:06:10.000 --> 01:06:12.699
takeaway that any teacher can teach jazz and

01:06:12.699 --> 01:06:17.400
your students can play jazz. And the best way

01:06:17.400 --> 01:06:21.380
is to go to thisisjazz .com and purchase your

01:06:21.380 --> 01:06:24.500
book. Yeah, thisisjazz .com. You can get my book.

01:06:24.559 --> 01:06:29.480
We have, I think it's Code Improv. for it's either

01:06:29.480 --> 01:06:32.900
five dollars off for free shipping um and yeah

01:06:32.900 --> 01:06:36.460
it's spiral bound so it stays open on the music

01:06:36.460 --> 01:06:39.860
stand it's also available there as an ebook and

01:06:39.860 --> 01:06:43.360
it's on amazon too if people uh prefer amazon

01:06:43.360 --> 01:06:47.239
i always prefer this is jazz .com but if if you

01:06:47.239 --> 01:06:49.940
want it's on amazon it's uh digital on music

01:06:49.940 --> 01:06:53.159
notes and uh and if you have piano marvel um

01:06:53.159 --> 01:06:56.550
that's that interactive We're also on Piano Marvel,

01:06:56.730 --> 01:06:58.889
just the compositions, though, not the information

01:06:58.889 --> 01:07:02.130
stuff. So if you want to do the play alongs there.

01:07:02.309 --> 01:07:06.750
But yeah, that's probably more than enough. Short

01:07:06.750 --> 01:07:10.269
answer, just go to thisisjazz .com. Great. So

01:07:10.269 --> 01:07:13.320
what's the best way for my audience to... get

01:07:13.320 --> 01:07:16.099
in touch with you that would be Instagram account

01:07:16.099 --> 01:07:20.920
or yeah Instagram is it's my name Quentin Walston

01:07:20.920 --> 01:07:24.980
Q -U -E -N -T -I -N you can also reach out directly

01:07:24.980 --> 01:07:27.480
at this is jazz I think it's contact at this

01:07:27.480 --> 01:07:31.559
is jazz you're not going to go to a spam folder.

01:07:31.739 --> 01:07:34.400
I'll, I'll, I'll read your stuff personally and

01:07:34.400 --> 01:07:37.340
I'll, I'll, I'll be happy to answer any questions.

01:07:38.000 --> 01:07:40.239
And yeah, I'm not, I just want to help teachers.

01:07:40.340 --> 01:07:42.380
So if you have, if you have questions, you're

01:07:42.380 --> 01:07:44.139
like, Hey, this chord doesn't make sense. Or

01:07:44.139 --> 01:07:46.280
just, just let me know. I'm happy to, I'm happy

01:07:46.280 --> 01:07:49.039
to help. I'm available. Great. And then you,

01:07:49.099 --> 01:07:52.679
your YouTube channel is at, this is jazz, no?

01:07:53.019 --> 01:07:56.000
This is jazz. I think it's, this is jazz official.

01:07:56.420 --> 01:08:00.289
Official. Yes. This is jazz official. Yeah. uh

01:08:00.289 --> 01:08:03.289
this is jazz official yes somebody this is jazz

01:08:03.289 --> 01:08:06.690
oh you need to fight them for it no okay well

01:08:06.690 --> 01:08:09.449
it's official so your yours is more official

01:08:09.449 --> 01:08:14.690
all right thank you so much for this conversation

01:08:14.690 --> 01:08:17.729
is is there anything else i mean we are going

01:08:17.729 --> 01:08:20.720
to go to the rapid fire questions but Anything

01:08:20.720 --> 01:08:22.840
else that you need to cover? I don't think so.

01:08:22.939 --> 01:08:26.140
I enjoyed this so much. Thank you for having

01:08:26.140 --> 01:08:29.640
me. This has been incredible. Oh, thank you so

01:08:29.640 --> 01:08:32.760
much. So before I let you go, we have one more

01:08:32.760 --> 01:08:34.939
thing to do. The Pianopods rapid fire questions.

01:08:34.979 --> 01:08:38.539
Now we take this segment very seriously. You've

01:08:38.539 --> 01:08:41.159
shared your stories and expertise today, but

01:08:41.159 --> 01:08:44.609
these. Questions carefully curated by our team

01:08:44.609 --> 01:08:47.689
will give our listeners a glimpse into who you

01:08:47.689 --> 01:08:50.609
truly are. So let's do this. Let's do it. So

01:08:50.609 --> 01:08:54.090
answer each question as short as possible. No

01:08:54.090 --> 01:08:58.229
explanation is necessary. Level one. What is

01:08:58.229 --> 01:09:03.770
your comfort food? Sweets. In anything particular?

01:09:05.390 --> 01:09:09.069
Probably chocolate. Probably chocolate. All right.

01:09:09.880 --> 01:09:12.760
How do you like your coffee in the morning? Black,

01:09:12.979 --> 01:09:16.340
no cream, no sugar. All right. Cats or dogs?

01:09:17.600 --> 01:09:23.699
Dogs, but I have one of each. Oh, poor cat. Sunrise

01:09:23.699 --> 01:09:31.800
or sunset? Probably sunset, though I am an early

01:09:31.800 --> 01:09:38.239
riser. Okay. Summer or winter? Summer. Okay.

01:09:38.720 --> 01:09:42.399
now level two okay what skill have you always

01:09:42.399 --> 01:09:45.319
wanted to learn but haven't had a chance to oh

01:09:45.319 --> 01:09:48.060
skill i've always wanted to learn haven't had

01:09:48.060 --> 01:09:52.739
a chance to i can't dance and my wife can so

01:09:52.739 --> 01:09:55.479
i bet she would love it and i know she told me

01:09:55.479 --> 01:09:57.640
she would love it if i could dance so that that's

01:09:57.640 --> 01:10:00.539
probably that would be okay sounds good what

01:10:00.539 --> 01:10:03.100
is your favorite word oh what is your word or

01:10:03.100 --> 01:10:07.989
words to live by Words to live by. I'm Christian,

01:10:08.149 --> 01:10:09.689
so I'm going to have to go with that. I'm going

01:10:09.689 --> 01:10:11.029
to love the Lord your God with all your heart,

01:10:11.050 --> 01:10:13.289
soul, and mind and strength. All right. Sounds

01:10:13.289 --> 01:10:16.810
good. What is the most important quality you

01:10:16.810 --> 01:10:21.449
look for in other people? Oh, man. Kindness.

01:10:22.989 --> 01:10:27.069
Name a composer or jazz pianist you wish more

01:10:27.069 --> 01:10:31.689
people knew about. More people knew about? Probably

01:10:31.689 --> 01:10:37.039
Lenny Tristano. Oh, I don't know. Lenny Tristano.

01:10:37.460 --> 01:10:42.880
Okay. I need to look this person up. Okay. Now,

01:10:42.960 --> 01:10:44.979
level three. Two more questions to go. All right.

01:10:45.479 --> 01:10:48.760
Name one piece or one song in your current playlist.

01:10:49.000 --> 01:10:51.520
It doesn't matter what genre it is. Oh, just

01:10:51.520 --> 01:10:55.420
one piece or one song. I was listening to Brad

01:10:55.420 --> 01:11:00.020
Meldow play Think of One, which is a Thelonious

01:11:00.020 --> 01:11:04.310
Monk. I'm working on Monk and I wanted to hear

01:11:04.310 --> 01:11:07.970
how he interpreted that piece. Okay. I'll check

01:11:07.970 --> 01:11:11.170
it out. Now fill in the blank. Usually it's music

01:11:11.170 --> 01:11:18.010
is blank, but for you, it's jazz is blank. Creative.

01:11:19.470 --> 01:11:23.369
Oh, yeah. Great. Great answer. Quentin, thank

01:11:23.369 --> 01:11:25.689
you so much for joining us today, for sharing

01:11:25.689 --> 01:11:28.250
your story and with some expertise. I really

01:11:28.250 --> 01:11:30.949
enjoyed it. And thank you so much for being such,

01:11:31.010 --> 01:11:36.189
for your openness and generosity. So to our audience,

01:11:36.289 --> 01:11:38.710
if you'd like to explore more of Quentin's work,

01:11:38.810 --> 01:11:41.829
visit his website at QuentinWalston .com and

01:11:41.829 --> 01:11:45.029
follow his YouTube channel at This Is Jazz Official.

01:11:45.949 --> 01:11:50.390
full practical jazz tips and educational materials

01:11:50.390 --> 01:11:53.529
and performance clips as well. And behind the

01:11:53.529 --> 01:11:56.229
scenes insights into his projects. You can also

01:11:56.229 --> 01:11:59.430
connect with him on Instagram, Quentin Walston.

01:12:00.079 --> 01:12:02.520
And you can find all the links in the show notes.

01:12:02.680 --> 01:12:05.319
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01:12:05.340 --> 01:12:07.600
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01:12:32.850 --> 01:12:34.970
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01:12:34.970 --> 01:12:37.090
you so much, Quentin. Thank you. I appreciate

01:12:37.090 --> 01:12:39.069
it. Thank you so much. Yay.
