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Well, good morning East Tennessee.

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Boy, it's a great day to be at Tennessee Vol, right?

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Hosting Texas A&M, should be a good game.

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Should be beautiful weather.

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That's the best part, beautiful weather.

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That's really what we're looking for.

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Hey, my name is Scott Brockamp.

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I am your host for Around the House here on News Talk 98.7.

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I am one of the owners of his security and technology

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and we are your local source for all things, well,

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security and technology related.

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There's a lot going on this weekend,

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besides the fact that, well, we're hosting Texas A&M today.

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Kickoff is at 3.30.

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If you don't have tickets, you can catch the game on CBS

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and on WIVK, the flagship station of the Vol Network.

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The Dixie Lee Farmer's Market is open for just three more

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Saturdays.

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The market is on Kingston Pike near Renaissance,

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Farragut and open today from nine to noon.

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Also one of my favorites, Boo at the Zoo

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is open from 5.30 to eight at Zoo Knoxville.

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Tonight, Star Wars characters will

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be roaming the zoo as part of the entertainment.

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This 37-year tradition is fun for kids of all ages.

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And yes, that includes grown-up children like me.

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To get your tickets and find a complete list of events

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happening around your house today, go to visitnoxville.com.

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That's visitnoxville.com.

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So if you listened to us last week,

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we have another, well, long-standing tradition

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that is happening this last weekend, this weekend,

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and next weekend.

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And that is the Home Builders Association of Greater

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Knoxville Parade of Homes.

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This is the 40th, what, 42nd year?

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43rd.

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42nd.

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42nd?

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42nd.

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42nd year.

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42nd year.

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That's, well, that's longer than Boo at the Zoo.

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So only by a few years.

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It'll wait.

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But if you were listening last week,

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we were talking about some of the exciting homes

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that are in the parade.

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And well, we're going to recap some of those homes

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a little bit this morning as I have my great guest with me

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again this weekend.

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We have Lisa from Ferguson and Becky from, well,

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Lewis Construction.

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Good morning, ladies.

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Good morning.

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How are you all doing?

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Good.

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Great.

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It's a hectic day today.

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I'm just going to tell you.

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On the drive in here, I already saw

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people pulling into the stadium getting ready to tailgate.

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Man.

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Man, this is early.

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Well, that's where I'm headed afterwards.

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I'm going to go get ready for tailgate.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, we actually are.

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We're going to be set up at Circle Park in Vaughn Village

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today.

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So yeah, I'm right there with you.

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I'm going to leave here and go down to the stadium.

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You know, that's, I'm just going to say,

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that's one of the things, like myself,

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I'm not originally from here.

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and I've lived anywhere else.

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But one of the cool things is just

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the culture and the nature of, well, Saturdays here

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in the fall.

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You know what I mean?

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Game day is just, I mean, you're all in.

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I mean, you just don't have a choice.

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Yeah, there's this electricity in the air.

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Everybody's excited.

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Everybody's out there supporting our team.

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It's just great.

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It really is.

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It really is.

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And speaking of supporting our team,

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you guys are here in support of the Home Builders Association

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of Greater Knoxville.

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Both of you have been longstanding,

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longtime members.

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And well, quite frankly, I think,

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is there a position that y'all haven't really

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fulfilled in the volunteer capacity at the Home Builders

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Association?

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No, well, Becky is going to be our president next year,

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which is exciting.

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And I'm on the executive board.

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And I've been nominated to get on the ladder

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to become president in three years.

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So I mean, that would be, I guess,

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we're fulfilling our last things.

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But we're right now getting ready.

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We're gearing up for our holiday party and the parade

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and membership.

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I guess we have been on almost all the committees.

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Or we give opinions on all the committees.

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I mean, that's the important thing, right?

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As long as you can give your opinion on it,

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it's really what matters.

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So all right.

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We talked last week about we're going

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to discuss some of the homes that were looked at this week.

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So well, what do you got?

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We've got 33, 32, 33.

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33 homes to look at and walk through.

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So they're all in person.

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They're not virtual.

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So you can go in there and see for yourselves

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the different trends, just new builds

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if you're looking for a builder, a remodeler, ideas.

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Lisa's been in a handful of them.

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So she'll definitely be able to talk about what's

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trending right now.

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Well, I noticed in my travels this past week and last week

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that the trend of gold in fixtures, in hardware,

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and all of that, it's either the bright gold

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or it's the softer satin gold, is still very, very heavy.

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A lot of people are moving into almost a burnished color now.

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and appliances, people are still really heavy on the gold.

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Gold and black, I mean, almost everybody walks in and says,

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I love black.

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So that's really good still.

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But I noticed.

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Just tell me the brass is not coming back.

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It is.

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But it's the unlackered.

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Everybody likes the unlackered brass that's

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going to change and live.

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So it looks like you have something

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antique in your house or old.

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especially if you can let it go and let it become

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its natural self, wallpaper.

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I was in a house.

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And Rarity Bay yesterday, I walked down into the rec room.

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And I had been in this house several times,

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because they're one of my clients.

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And I said, oh, they bricked that wall.

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And I walked in the room.

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And I was like, that brick looks weird.

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And I said, it's just so perfect.

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I was like, how did they get this brick so perfect?

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It was wallpaper.

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So it was perfect brick wallpaper.

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realize it was wallpaper until I got about three feet from it.

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And this customer did such a good job with wallpaper

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that I went into the laundry room.

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And it was wallpaper in the laundry room.

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And I was like, what a pretty tile to the person

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he said, what did you think about the tile

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in the laundry room?

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I had to go back in there and touch it

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to feel that it was not.

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So it's very realistic looking wallpaper.

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It's gold finishes, dark and moody.

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Dark and moody powder rooms.

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this really beautiful gray people are using.

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things like that.

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to this, there was still a lot of paint in trim.

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and crown molding.

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But the doors, they're painting around them.

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And they're doing a beautiful natural wood door.

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And then a lot of people are painting the doors.

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which is a great trend.

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It really makes everything pop.

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It's not like you see a wall and then there's a door.

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Everything's the color of the trim.

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And then you see more wall.

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And I don't think that would be too trendy to wear.

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It's going to go out of style in five, 10 years.

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Because I mean, first of all, paint is amazing.

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Use paint.

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I mean, I know for a long time.

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And white is still pretty.

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And I love white.

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But take advantage of color.

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Yes, color changes your mood.

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The best thing about paint is that when trends change,

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you can change the paint.

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It's, you know, I mean, like.

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As a builder, paint is probably one of my favorite things

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because of that.

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It fixes everything.

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Well, and we also, you know, what I always tell my customers

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is if they're not, you know, if they're

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going to have one room in their house,

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that they're going to do something kind of out there.

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And while doing your powder room,

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you can do a lot of things in a powder room

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because it's just a toilet and a sink.

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You don't have to change any tile or shower

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fixtures or things like that that are really hard to change.

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But you can change your light fixture very easily.

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You can change the paint in there very easily.

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You can even, you know, it's not as expensive to change

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your vanity out of there.

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So if you want to try for something,

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like a bright blue vanity or something,

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your powder room's the place to do it.

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Yeah, you can.

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So go get crazy.

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That way you can just shut the door if you don't like it,

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right?

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And I've noticed that in these houses,

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that the powder rooms are extraordinary.

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It's really great.

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In a minute, we'll talk about some kitchens.

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There we go.

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So if you're listening this morning

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and you're thinking about some remodel ideas,

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maybe you're in the market to buy a new home.

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Now is the time to check out what's available here

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in our Knoxville area.

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33 homes on display through the Home Builders of Knoxville

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Parade of Homes.

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We are going to take a short break.

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And when we come back, as Lisa said,

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we're going to dive into some kitchens and some other trends

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and cool things that you will see in this year's parade.

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We'll be right back here on Around the House

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with Scott Brokamp on News Talk 98.7 WOKI.

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Welcome back to Around the House.

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If you're just joining us, we are talking the Parade of Homes,

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Knoxville's 42nd anniversary of the Parade of Homes

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put on by the Home Builders Association of Greater

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Knoxville, sponsored by ORNL Federal Credit Union

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and Tindles.

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This is just an absolutely amazing event

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that the Home Builders Association puts on.

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And this is a great opportunity if you're

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looking for some ideas on remodeling.

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Maybe you're looking to build.

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Maybe you're looking for a builder or remodeler.

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A lot of these builders not only build new homes,

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but they also have do remodeling or have

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a division that does remodeling.

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Great opportunity for you to be able to check out

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33 different homes throughout.

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What are we at least, the seven counties?

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Yes, we are.

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We are.

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We're in seven counties this year.

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We haven't been up and have a presence in like the Morristown,

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Hamlin County area.

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We have it there.

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We've always had Loudon, Blount, Knox,

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and some of the other surrounding counties.

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But as far as I can recollect, I don't

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remember being in Morristown and Hamlin County.

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So I'm headed up there next Friday.

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Oh, there you go.

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I'm excited about going up and seeing what we have up there.

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Well, Becky, I'm going to turn to you a minute

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because being in the industry myself, one

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of the biggest challenges, and I don't know

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that people understand this, but when you build a parade home,

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there's a deadline to have this home done.

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Yes.

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And obviously, pre-COVID, deadlines

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were somewhat flexible, but you could

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rely on things being there.

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You could rely on workers doing their jobs, timelines.

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You could set a date on a contract

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and realistically meet that date.

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I know nowadays, it's not so.

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I mean, just like in our business,

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every time you turn around, there's this one part

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that you've been able to get for months on end,

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and now all of a sudden it's on back order.

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So as a builder, Express, share with us

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how difficult it is to hit these deadlines

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and still produce such an immaculate product.

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Yeah, it's not easy, and there's a lot of stress

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that goes into it because these builders are putting everything

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that they have into these homes.

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I mean, they're showcasing their work and their talent,

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and so they want it to be perfect.

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And so yeah, exact same thing.

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Someone tells you, oh, we'll have that for you in two weeks.

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You give them a two-week notice, and then all of a sudden

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you're waiting another two weeks.

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And it's a domino effect.

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So if one thing doesn't come in and you can't install it

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or do it, then that holds up a whole list of other subs

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and products that you can't put into the house.

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So the builders that are showcasing their homes,

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no doubt they've been living in stress.

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And some of them may be doing touch-ups during the week

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in between parades still that you don't even know about.

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But a lot of them worked really hard.

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Their houses are showcased beautifully

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and their talent shows for sure.

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No, absolutely.

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And they'll smile.

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You won't even know how stressed they were.

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They'll still smile and be like, look what we got for you.

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Well, again, I think it's important for people

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to understand.

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So when you're touring these homes,

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a lot of times things are spec'd to go into this house

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that maybe for some reason they just couldn't get it.

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All right.

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I know in our world that anytime we talk about

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an electronic or an actual product

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when we're dealing with new construction clients,

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I'll let everybody know up front,

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when you get in, when you close on this home,

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we'll figure out what electronics we're gonna put in there.

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Because we could talk today

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and that part may not be available anymore.

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It may get end of life.

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There may be the new version out.

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Things are constantly changing and constantly evolving.

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And I know that, especially in the electronics world

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and the technology side, through COVID,

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it gave a lot of companies a lot of opportunity

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to essentially revamp their whole entire product line.

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And I know that has happened in some lighting

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and some plumbing areas as well.

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And so it's neat to see how some of these builders

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just make that adjustment on the fly.

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And you have to.

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I don't have any homes in the parade this year,

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but homes that I have built,

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even our suppliers are left in the dark until last minute.

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And we were finishing a house

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and we had our floor ordered and we were ready.

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And our poor supplier actually had a delivery date.

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And then when it didn't show, she had a call

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and they were like, oh no, that's been discontinued.

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So, and I have a closing.

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And so I'm like, no, I need flooring in this house.

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And real quick, we had be like, okay,

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who can get me realistically just show me the flooring

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that you know 100% that can come in

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in the next week or two.

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And we're just gonna have to pick from that flooring.

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So yeah, you're right.

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It's scary, it's frustrating.

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It's kind of our sadly our new reality now,

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but yeah, you've got to be able to adjust and be flexible.

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You have to be flexible.

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We have a saying at the office.

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Oh shoot, I'm gonna screw it up too.

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Kenny-

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That's a great saying.

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Well, yeah, and that.

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Kenny always expect the unexpected

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because something's always gonna change.

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It is.

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Yeah, I mean it is.

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And at least I know that on the supplier end of these things

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that again, being on my side as a contractor,

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I know how vital that communication is.

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It is, it is.

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And a lot of times lately, it's getting better.

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I will say across the board, it is getting better.

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We still have a lot of these, oh yes, we discontinued that.

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And this is the new model

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and you really can't tell the difference

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and it's $200 more, but it's just something

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that they had to change.

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Or I think a lot of suppliers to us,

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a lot of our vendors used COVID as an opportunity

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to really look at what they were selling

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and what they were not

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and getting rid of the things that we're not selling.

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So they could have more supply of the items

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that people really liked, which is wonderful.

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But I still have several vendors

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that it's taking over a year to 18 months

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to get materials from them.

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And that is a really hard thing for customers to understand

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because we don't have a room in the back of our showroom

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where we go and make all these products.

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We order them from vendors

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and we are reliant on them to give us their best guess

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of when it will come to me,

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which is what I pass on to my customers.

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And sometimes it's just not correct

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because some of these things are coming from Italy,

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some are coming from France,

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some are just coming from Arizona.

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So you just don't know what you don't know.

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And I think a lot of my vendors are still having trouble

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getting components from people that they buy from.

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So it's just a really difficult place we're in right now.

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And a lot of that is due to our labor shortage

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across basically the world.

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There's a labor shortage.

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And we try really hard through the Home Builders Association

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to support workforce development

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and get kids to understand that there are good paying jobs

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in all of the construction industries.

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You don't have to wanna be a builder.

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You could do HVAC, you could do plumbing,

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you could do electrical.

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You could just be a framer,

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you could just be a trim person,

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somebody who really loves working with wood

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or who is very artistically inclined.

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Being a trim carpenter is an amazing thing.

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Some of these houses, one in particular I'm thinking of,

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have some amazing trims on the walls.

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Like it's almost like art on the wall,

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but it's done all with trim.

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And it is just stunning that you could make

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one whole room in a house look like art

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just by the way you apply wood to the wall.

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And it's a very, you know,

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I feel like that would be a very fulfilling thing.

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I wish I was inclined that way.

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I'm not.

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I mean, I'm really bad as far as working with my hands,

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but I can do other things.

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But there are those people out there

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and there's a place for everyone

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in the construction industry.

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Hey, you're great with working with your hands.

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I've seen you.

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The product comes in and you deliver it right there

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to your client.

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That's right.

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I'm good at carrying things.

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I'm good at stacking.

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It's just a matter of perspective.

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It's all how you look at it.

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Yeah.

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We didn't touch on how people can get books

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for the Parade of Homes.

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They can get the Parade of Homes book

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that they can look at all the,

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it has all the house plans in it.

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It has directions.

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It has information about the builder.

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Those are ORNL and Tindles and every parade house.

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And Becky, what is the website?

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Theparadeofhomesnoxville.com.

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Yes.

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And you can look at the book online too.

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So if you aren't stopping by any one of those places

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before you get to a house to grab a physical one,

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then you can get on there and see where the houses are,

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who's built them, their price range.

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Now there'll be pictures of the outside of the house,

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like a rendering of the outside of the house,

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but you have to go to the house to see it,

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to see all the trim details on the wall,

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the moody bathrooms and kitchens.

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You're gonna talk about kitchen.

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Yeah, no sneak peek in the magazine.

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No, yeah, no sneak peek.

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You've got to go check it out.

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Is actually though a YouTuber,

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and I have heard this through the grapevine,

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so I don't know how to find it,

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but there was a YouTuber that came through Knoxville

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this past week that all he does is go to parade houses.

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And he went to three of the parade homes

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and did YouTube videos on them

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talking about all the features of the homes.

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And so somewhere online on YouTube, you can find that,

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but he does that as his YouTube channel.

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He goes to different parade homes across the country.

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So if you're really interested in homes and design,

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that might be a great YouTube channel to look at,

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but I have no idea what his name is,

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but I'm hoping that you could just maybe go

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Parade Home Guy on YouTube and find him.

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Let's face it, at the end of the day,

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these 33 beautiful homes just need people

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to come walk through them.

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So you can recap your visit when you find the YouTube guy.

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How's that, right?

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Yeah, we need to walk through these houses.

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We need to show our builders in Knoxville some love.

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But if you will go to, excuse me,

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theparadeofhomesnoxville.com,

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you will find a listing of all the homes.

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You will find a map.

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You will get directions.

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It is a great resource and a great tool for,

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well, helping you make it the tour

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of this year's candidates of the parade of homes.

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See what's going on, see what's new,

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see the awesome trends.

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And well, quite frankly, the workmanship

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of probably your neighbor or somebody that you know,

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because that's what I know,

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is that we all, you know, look, we all live here.

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We play here, we work here.

530
00:22:26,300 --> 00:22:28,740
And most likely somebody you know

531
00:22:28,740 --> 00:22:31,220
was involved in one of these homes.

532
00:22:31,220 --> 00:22:32,980
We are gonna take a short break,

533
00:22:32,980 --> 00:22:36,220
but when we come back, as Lisa promised previously,

534
00:22:36,220 --> 00:22:39,180
we're gonna talk about kitchens, what's new, what's hot,

535
00:22:39,180 --> 00:22:41,260
and what you're gonna see when you tour

536
00:22:41,260 --> 00:22:43,620
these amazing parade homes here

537
00:22:43,620 --> 00:22:45,300
in the parade of homes in Knoxville.

538
00:22:45,300 --> 00:22:49,620
We'll be right back on Newstalk 98.7 WOKI.

539
00:22:49,620 --> 00:22:51,900
Welcome back to Around the House.

540
00:22:51,900 --> 00:22:53,780
I am Scott Brokamp.

541
00:22:53,780 --> 00:22:57,780
And with me this morning, I have Becky Snyder,

542
00:22:57,780 --> 00:22:59,780
the co-chair of the parade of homes.

543
00:23:00,660 --> 00:23:03,260
Lisa Smith, the chair of the parade of homes.

544
00:23:03,260 --> 00:23:04,580
No, we're co-chairs together.

545
00:23:04,580 --> 00:23:06,500
Oh, you're just, I mean, nobody really wants

546
00:23:06,500 --> 00:23:08,460
the responsibility, you're just gonna share.

547
00:23:08,460 --> 00:23:09,780
Not single-handedly.

548
00:23:09,780 --> 00:23:10,620
Yeah, not single-handedly.

549
00:23:10,620 --> 00:23:12,340
We do a lot of that.

550
00:23:12,340 --> 00:23:13,460
Becky and I are like.

551
00:23:13,460 --> 00:23:14,300
Yeah.

552
00:23:14,300 --> 00:23:15,620
It's all right, way to work together, right?

553
00:23:15,620 --> 00:23:16,460
Yeah.

554
00:23:16,460 --> 00:23:17,300
Yeah, we work together.

555
00:23:17,300 --> 00:23:18,140
That's good, that's good.

556
00:23:18,140 --> 00:23:20,340
Well, as we have been speaking,

557
00:23:20,340 --> 00:23:22,980
we talked about it last week, this weekend,

558
00:23:22,980 --> 00:23:25,660
the second weekend of the parade of homes.

559
00:23:25,660 --> 00:23:29,540
So the homes are open from 12 to five.

560
00:23:29,540 --> 00:23:32,220
They'll be open today, tomorrow from 12 to five,

561
00:23:32,220 --> 00:23:34,500
and then next weekend is the final weekend

562
00:23:34,500 --> 00:23:35,660
of the parade of homes.

563
00:23:35,660 --> 00:23:39,060
So homes will be open Friday, Saturday, and Sunday

564
00:23:39,060 --> 00:23:40,300
from 12 to five.

565
00:23:40,300 --> 00:23:45,300
So make sure that you go to theparadeofhomesnoxville.com.

566
00:23:45,300 --> 00:23:47,980
You can see where all these homes are located,

567
00:23:47,980 --> 00:23:50,620
who the builders are, price ranges, et cetera.

568
00:23:50,620 --> 00:23:54,660
There's a map right there available online

569
00:23:54,660 --> 00:23:56,460
for you to find out how to get there.

570
00:23:56,460 --> 00:24:00,020
But this is a great opportunity to look at new homes

571
00:24:00,020 --> 00:24:01,340
in different areas.

572
00:24:01,340 --> 00:24:03,620
As we mentioned earlier this morning,

573
00:24:03,620 --> 00:24:05,380
in seven different counties,

574
00:24:05,380 --> 00:24:07,540
there are homes that are on display.

575
00:24:07,540 --> 00:24:10,820
And so maybe you're thinking of getting outside

576
00:24:10,820 --> 00:24:13,900
of Knoxville, and this gives you a great opportunity

577
00:24:13,900 --> 00:24:16,500
to look at some of the homes that are being built

578
00:24:16,500 --> 00:24:18,100
in those areas, some of the communities

579
00:24:18,100 --> 00:24:19,940
that are there as well.

580
00:24:21,380 --> 00:24:23,700
One of the things that we wanna talk about,

581
00:24:23,700 --> 00:24:26,060
we've put it off long enough.

582
00:24:26,060 --> 00:24:27,900
Kitchens.

583
00:24:27,900 --> 00:24:31,500
Lisa is here to tell us all about what,

584
00:24:31,500 --> 00:24:34,260
well, obviously she's furnished a lot of these kitchens,

585
00:24:34,260 --> 00:24:37,620
but she has been to a lot of the parade homes,

586
00:24:37,620 --> 00:24:41,140
and she's gonna tell us about the trends that she has seen.

587
00:24:41,140 --> 00:24:46,140
I am seeing so much still of the perimeter cabinets

588
00:24:47,060 --> 00:24:52,060
being one color and the island still being a different color.

589
00:24:52,060 --> 00:24:55,860
Whatever the predominant color

590
00:24:55,860 --> 00:24:58,220
that's an accent color for the home,

591
00:24:58,220 --> 00:25:01,540
they'll do the island in that color,

592
00:25:01,540 --> 00:25:05,540
and then they'll do the wall perimeter cabinets

593
00:25:05,540 --> 00:25:09,260
in a different color, which to me is really, really pretty.

594
00:25:09,260 --> 00:25:11,340
I like that contrast in there.

595
00:25:11,340 --> 00:25:15,340
It draws your eye in a little bit more.

596
00:25:15,340 --> 00:25:16,660
I saw a lot of that.

597
00:25:16,660 --> 00:25:20,460
I've seen a lot of metal, like cabinets

598
00:25:20,460 --> 00:25:23,820
where there would be glass,

599
00:25:23,820 --> 00:25:26,540
the glass cabinets that you normally see.

600
00:25:26,540 --> 00:25:29,580
I've seen several homes that have had metal,

601
00:25:29,580 --> 00:25:32,260
decorative metal in a different color

602
00:25:32,260 --> 00:25:33,940
where that would have been.

603
00:25:33,940 --> 00:25:37,940
Lots of, and this is new, probably,

604
00:25:37,940 --> 00:25:40,020
we've been seeing it for about four or five years.

605
00:25:40,020 --> 00:25:45,020
It's very prominent in this year's parade, a back kitchen.

606
00:25:45,300 --> 00:25:47,900
It's not like your normal butler's pantry

607
00:25:47,900 --> 00:25:49,900
where you would just have a little sink

608
00:25:49,900 --> 00:25:53,380
and maybe some glassware or something to help you serve.

609
00:25:53,380 --> 00:25:57,020
This is a full, like a back kitchen

610
00:25:57,020 --> 00:26:00,940
where if you had a caterer, you were having a party,

611
00:26:00,940 --> 00:26:03,340
and you were laying everything out in your kitchen,

612
00:26:03,340 --> 00:26:06,780
a place you could put all the platters and things in,

613
00:26:06,780 --> 00:26:09,820
all the platters and things that are coming out next.

614
00:26:09,820 --> 00:26:11,860
So a lot of people in that back kitchen

615
00:26:11,860 --> 00:26:15,220
have a sink and maybe a dishwasher.

616
00:26:15,220 --> 00:26:17,860
So they'll have a second dishwasher outside the kitchen.

617
00:26:17,860 --> 00:26:20,620
That just sounds like way too much work.

618
00:26:20,620 --> 00:26:22,020
I don't know that I want that many people

619
00:26:22,020 --> 00:26:23,180
at my house at one time.

620
00:26:23,180 --> 00:26:25,060
You're not entertaining them.

621
00:26:25,060 --> 00:26:28,020
To me, I always worry about the way my kitchen looks

622
00:26:28,020 --> 00:26:29,620
on Thanksgiving when people get there

623
00:26:29,620 --> 00:26:31,620
because I've been cooking all day

624
00:26:31,620 --> 00:26:33,700
and I have the food prepared,

625
00:26:33,700 --> 00:26:36,260
but then there's always that mess from cooking.

626
00:26:36,260 --> 00:26:38,620
This way, you have a second dishwasher

627
00:26:38,620 --> 00:26:41,060
that you can have going while people are eating

628
00:26:41,060 --> 00:26:42,620
that have all your pots and pans

629
00:26:42,620 --> 00:26:44,540
and things like that in it.

630
00:26:44,540 --> 00:26:47,140
And it doesn't have to be as nice as your first dishwasher.

631
00:26:47,140 --> 00:26:48,780
It can be just a dishwasher

632
00:26:48,780 --> 00:26:50,700
that maybe doesn't have a third rack,

633
00:26:50,700 --> 00:26:53,700
but it does have the soak and scrub for pots and pans.

634
00:26:53,700 --> 00:26:55,180
So there's a lot of that I've seen.

635
00:26:55,180 --> 00:26:57,860
I've seen a lot of butcher block tops.

636
00:26:57,860 --> 00:27:01,780
Some have been left natural and some have been stained,

637
00:27:01,780 --> 00:27:04,540
which is a really pretty look in pantries,

638
00:27:04,540 --> 00:27:06,060
just regular pantries.

639
00:27:06,060 --> 00:27:07,860
Another big thing that I saw yesterday

640
00:27:07,860 --> 00:27:11,620
that was so pretty is in a kitchen,

641
00:27:11,620 --> 00:27:13,940
they had the two doors that would be

642
00:27:13,940 --> 00:27:16,380
for a regular pantry cabinet.

643
00:27:16,380 --> 00:27:19,300
And when you walked through them,

644
00:27:19,300 --> 00:27:21,640
they were actually like little double doors

645
00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:23,540
for a door that you walked through

646
00:27:23,540 --> 00:27:25,460
that took you into the pantry.

647
00:27:25,460 --> 00:27:26,300
It was a little walk-in pantry.

648
00:27:26,300 --> 00:27:27,420
We just did that on a remodel.

649
00:27:27,420 --> 00:27:28,260
I love those.

650
00:27:28,260 --> 00:27:29,080
Love that.

651
00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:30,340
It looked so nice

652
00:27:30,340 --> 00:27:33,340
and you didn't have just a random door in your kitchen.

653
00:27:33,340 --> 00:27:35,340
It was part of the cabinetry.

654
00:27:35,340 --> 00:27:37,500
And it looked really good.

655
00:27:37,500 --> 00:27:39,780
Still see a lot of white kitchens,

656
00:27:39,780 --> 00:27:41,420
lot of white kitchens out there.

657
00:27:41,420 --> 00:27:42,300
I was gonna ask,

658
00:27:42,300 --> 00:27:44,900
cause you're talking about people are starting

659
00:27:44,900 --> 00:27:46,800
to go a little bit back to the woods

660
00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:49,900
and the stains in the home.

661
00:27:53,060 --> 00:27:56,140
I mean, not like the 70s oak, right?

662
00:27:56,140 --> 00:27:58,360
We know how Scott feels about the 70s,

663
00:27:59,220 --> 00:28:00,660
but not like the 70s oak,

664
00:28:00,660 --> 00:28:04,260
but having more stain in the kitchen.

665
00:28:04,260 --> 00:28:05,700
Cause that's, I mean,

666
00:28:05,700 --> 00:28:07,900
that's what I'm just as a builder designer.

667
00:28:07,900 --> 00:28:09,700
And like, and I don't,

668
00:28:09,700 --> 00:28:12,380
I'm not good with making sure I'm like keeping up

669
00:28:12,380 --> 00:28:14,100
with the latest and what's in designs,

670
00:28:14,100 --> 00:28:15,580
like other designers,

671
00:28:15,580 --> 00:28:19,220
but I love having that natural wood

672
00:28:19,220 --> 00:28:20,420
and stains in the kitchen

673
00:28:20,420 --> 00:28:24,140
and then mixing it with paint to painted cabinets.

674
00:28:24,140 --> 00:28:27,180
There are a lot of houses that do have wood cabinets.

675
00:28:27,180 --> 00:28:30,060
They have, and I was in house the other day,

676
00:28:30,060 --> 00:28:31,380
yesterday actually,

677
00:28:31,380 --> 00:28:36,380
that had almost every, the kitchen, the bathrooms,

678
00:28:36,820 --> 00:28:39,340
every cabinet was different.

679
00:28:39,340 --> 00:28:41,340
Like they had some wood mixed in their kitchen

680
00:28:41,340 --> 00:28:43,020
with some painted cabinets.

681
00:28:43,020 --> 00:28:46,820
The bathrooms had different colored cabinets.

682
00:28:46,820 --> 00:28:50,040
Some were white, some were wood, some were like blue,

683
00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:52,580
but that is still something

684
00:28:52,580 --> 00:28:54,660
that people are doing a lot of things.

685
00:28:54,660 --> 00:28:56,160
I felt like this year,

686
00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:59,100
there was more personality in these houses.

687
00:28:59,100 --> 00:29:01,140
Nothing was cookie cutter.

688
00:29:01,140 --> 00:29:03,980
Everything was very designed.

689
00:29:03,980 --> 00:29:05,780
It looked very nice.

690
00:29:05,780 --> 00:29:09,220
Our builders have knocked it out of the park this year

691
00:29:09,220 --> 00:29:13,900
as far as offering people ideas.

692
00:29:13,900 --> 00:29:14,860
I know Becky and I,

693
00:29:14,860 --> 00:29:18,780
we did a parade house together last year, I think it was.

694
00:29:18,780 --> 00:29:20,380
Maybe two, we've done two.

695
00:29:20,380 --> 00:29:21,580
Past two years, yeah.

696
00:29:21,580 --> 00:29:23,420
But we did a brick backsplash.

697
00:29:23,420 --> 00:29:26,700
I saw a brick backsplash in one of the houses

698
00:29:26,700 --> 00:29:28,580
and it looked really pretty.

699
00:29:28,580 --> 00:29:32,640
But yes, and I saw a stone backsplash in a house

700
00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:34,200
and that was beautiful too.

701
00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:36,800
Oh, and a lot of people are doing custom hoods.

702
00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:39,960
We've had some plaster hoods that were really pretty

703
00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:42,260
that had like metal accents.

704
00:29:42,260 --> 00:29:43,520
All of that's good.

705
00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:47,680
Lot of microwave drawers.

706
00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:51,200
They're very handy because if you don't have a place

707
00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:53,920
to put your microwave, you can put it in your island

708
00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:55,700
and it can be like a drawer.

709
00:29:55,700 --> 00:29:58,440
And honestly, for people who are aging in place

710
00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:01,360
or with young children, it's safer

711
00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:03,800
because you're not reaching out of the microwave

712
00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:06,040
and pulling something towards you.

713
00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:09,000
You're lifting it up and sitting it on the counter

714
00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:11,520
so you have more control over what you're doing.

715
00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:14,120
So I like to, a lot of bidet seats too

716
00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:15,880
in the bathrooms I noticed yesterday.

717
00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:18,160
I was like, wow, these are really taking off.

718
00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:20,680
And that's like, I spoke last week about the fact

719
00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:23,880
that that gives people longer independence

720
00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:26,120
so they don't have to ask somebody to help them.

721
00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:31,000
So a lot of people, oh, walk in showers with no doors,

722
00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:32,720
really big this year.

723
00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:37,600
And a lot of them were like a zero curb.

724
00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:40,880
So you walk straight into it and the shower kind of,

725
00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:44,480
it just kind of slowly slopes towards the drain

726
00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:47,480
so it doesn't come out into the main bathroom

727
00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:50,880
but you don't have that curb there that you could trip over.

728
00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:55,740
So these homes are homes that people can live in long-term

729
00:30:55,740 --> 00:30:58,480
and love for a really long time.

730
00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:01,560
So I'm gonna take you back to kitchens a minute.

731
00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:03,520
So what about open shelving?

732
00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:05,600
Are you still seeing a lot of open shelves?

733
00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:07,880
Not as much as we have in past years

734
00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:10,580
but there were still some open shelves out there.

735
00:31:10,580 --> 00:31:15,580
I will say I work a lot and the thought for me

736
00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:20,920
of having something else to dust when I did my kitchen,

737
00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:22,800
when I redid my kitchen, I was like,

738
00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:24,640
well, I could put some up right here

739
00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:26,320
and it would look really pretty

740
00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:28,200
but then I'm gonna have to dust it.

741
00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:32,540
And I was not for them but there were some there

742
00:31:32,540 --> 00:31:35,760
and I noticed that they looked really pretty

743
00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:38,040
and I was like, maybe I should have rethought that

744
00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:40,400
and taken the extra 10 minutes to dust them.

745
00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:44,120
I would think that there's still, again, I like them

746
00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:48,640
because I think especially now you go shopping

747
00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:50,340
just for your glassware in your kitchen,

748
00:31:50,340 --> 00:31:53,440
things are becoming just prettier and ornate

749
00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:56,520
and to be able to showcase that a little bit,

750
00:31:56,520 --> 00:31:59,320
I think it's okay to, if you get some of those

751
00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:02,680
really nice wine glasses to have those out

752
00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:05,920
and not just hidden behind a cabinet.

753
00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:09,160
I'm with you too, it's not like I'm gonna

754
00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:11,240
dust it on the regular basis.

755
00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:13,600
We have some, we have some open shelving

756
00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:14,600
and that was my concern.

757
00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:17,240
I'm like, oh man, I could just,

758
00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:20,160
don't put any stuff we're gonna use on them, right?

759
00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:21,240
It's just gonna be a knickknack.

760
00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:22,400
So we're just taking up space

761
00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:24,960
but what we have found is we have a couple

762
00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:28,180
that we utilize constantly and for us,

763
00:32:28,180 --> 00:32:30,200
what we have found is we have items

764
00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:33,680
that are on those open shelves, they're used regularly.

765
00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:35,840
So I don't have to worry about getting in there

766
00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:37,840
and all that dusting and cleaning

767
00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:42,000
and so they're really, I didn't,

768
00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:44,160
I guess this is just from my own opinion.

769
00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:46,520
I didn't think that they were gonna be as functional

770
00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:49,520
and as useful as they are.

771
00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:52,800
So it brings a cool look and a contrast to our kitchen

772
00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:57,200
but yet those concerns that I had about the desk collection.

773
00:32:57,200 --> 00:32:59,040
Now, listen, I've got one, I've got,

774
00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:00,800
we've got a few of them that they're,

775
00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:02,400
they hold knickknacks, trinkets

776
00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:04,680
and you got to constantly clean

777
00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:09,680
but I think the key to utilizing those open shelves, right?

778
00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:14,320
Is using products and things that you use regularly

779
00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:17,160
to where you're not getting all that settling.

780
00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:18,880
Well, my husband really wanted them.

781
00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:20,640
He comes from the restaurant world and he said,

782
00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:23,000
no, I would put all of our plates up there

783
00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:27,280
and I would pull them off and plate as I was cooking.

784
00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:30,760
And I said, okay, so we're gonna have two plates up there

785
00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:32,960
cause there's me and you most of the time.

786
00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:33,800
And he was like, no, no, no,

787
00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:35,720
we'll stick all the plates up there.

788
00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:38,840
And so it was just, you know, it was a decision for us

789
00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:41,120
but like I said, I love the way they look

790
00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:44,160
and I really have rethought it since I didn't do it.

791
00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:48,080
The other thing I was gonna say is in one of the houses

792
00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:52,400
I saw a cute little shelf made out of the countertop material.

793
00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:55,120
They had the countertop material as the backsplash

794
00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:58,160
but there was a little shelf built in for salt and pepper

795
00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:00,160
and a few, just a few little spices

796
00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:02,840
right there above the cooktop.

797
00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:05,040
And it was a fantastic idea.

798
00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:06,400
I've never seen that before.

799
00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:08,680
Or like you could do even like a little niche

800
00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:09,680
like you do in a shower.

801
00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:11,600
That would be cool to do there too.

802
00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:13,600
Well, we are gonna take a short break.

803
00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:15,800
We're gonna come back and wrap up talking

804
00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:16,840
about the Pray to Homes.

805
00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:21,160
So again, go to theparadeofhomesnoxville.com

806
00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:23,760
to be able to get a listing of all the homes and maps

807
00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:26,680
that are in the parade for the 42nd year here

808
00:34:26,680 --> 00:34:28,200
in Knoxville and surrounding areas.

809
00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:30,080
We'll be right back on Around the House

810
00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:32,560
on News Talk 98.7 WOKI.

811
00:34:33,720 --> 00:34:35,800
Oh, welcome back to Around the House.

812
00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:37,800
I am Scott Brokamp.

813
00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:39,440
And in the studio this morning,

814
00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:43,560
we have Becky Snyder of Loomis Construction

815
00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:48,560
and Lisa Smith of Ferguson, supplier of, I guess,

816
00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:50,720
almost all things now for your home.

817
00:34:50,720 --> 00:34:53,080
Yes, we supply a lot of different things now.

818
00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:54,760
I was actually on the website last night.

819
00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:57,200
We were talking about my stove off air.

820
00:34:57,200 --> 00:34:58,360
And I was actually,

821
00:34:58,360 --> 00:34:59,960
cause remember I saw that one in the showroom

822
00:34:59,960 --> 00:35:01,920
and I was like, this is what I want my stove to be.

823
00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:03,240
I was on there last night looking.

824
00:35:03,240 --> 00:35:05,000
I was like, I need a 42 inch.

825
00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:05,840
Yes.

826
00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:08,520
And you can find anything on build.com.

827
00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:09,600
That's our website.

828
00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:11,080
You can narrow it down.

829
00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:12,920
We have tile, we have rugs.

830
00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:16,520
We have all the faucets, appliances, lighting,

831
00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:18,640
but yeah, it's a great website.

832
00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:21,040
I go on there sometimes and I'm surprised.

833
00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:23,480
I was like, oh, I didn't know we sold that.

834
00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:26,720
It's like the Amazon of new home construction.

835
00:35:26,720 --> 00:35:28,200
It is, it is.

836
00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:29,640
That's a good comparison.

837
00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:34,640
And we daily, somehow with an algorithm

838
00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:36,560
that's way above my head,

839
00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:41,240
they go on and price us competitively across the internet.

840
00:35:41,240 --> 00:35:44,360
And so our prices are always very competitive,

841
00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:47,760
which is a thing I've heard about us.

842
00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:48,720
Oh, you're too expensive.

843
00:35:48,720 --> 00:35:49,640
We're really not.

844
00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:52,560
We have all different price ranges.

845
00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:54,920
And if you go in and talk to our, you know,

846
00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:59,760
our consultants in our showrooms, they will tell you,

847
00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:01,520
you know, there are certain things

848
00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:05,320
that are very inexpensive, but you know, they'll say,

849
00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:07,280
well, if you're gonna live in your house for 10 years

850
00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:09,120
and this is really what you want,

851
00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:10,760
or are you gonna live there forever?

852
00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:13,600
Because if you are, let's look at this,

853
00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:18,000
because you know, they're very skilled in fantastic products

854
00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:20,160
and all our products are really, really good.

855
00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:25,160
It's just, you know, maybe you really don't want to have

856
00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:28,880
an un-lacquered brass faucet.

857
00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:32,660
If you are gonna want it to say shiny all the time,

858
00:36:32,660 --> 00:36:34,120
you're gonna have to polish it.

859
00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:36,200
And so our showroom consultants

860
00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:38,360
will tell you something like that.

861
00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:41,520
Right, it's always, you know, we have those conversations

862
00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:42,800
with clients as well, right?

863
00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:47,120
Is something may look nice and fancy and shiny,

864
00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:49,800
but you have to understand what is gonna be required

865
00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:51,760
to keep what you want, right?

866
00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:53,600
What is the end result gonna be?

867
00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:55,520
You know, understanding the longevity of it,

868
00:36:55,520 --> 00:36:57,760
which is always important.

869
00:36:57,760 --> 00:36:59,680
But most of your stuff is on display

870
00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:01,000
in these homes anyways.

871
00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:06,040
So it's like a, you know, I mean, the showroom is nice

872
00:37:06,040 --> 00:37:08,160
and I would encourage everyone to go to the showroom,

873
00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:11,000
but to actually see it in the kitchens and the baths

874
00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:14,000
and in these homes too, like you said.

875
00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:16,240
It is, we have a lot of displays out there,

876
00:37:16,240 --> 00:37:19,840
but, and that is where our Parade of Homes,

877
00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:21,320
our builders that work with me,

878
00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:25,160
that's where the customers there came and picked out

879
00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:27,700
most of the lighting, the plumbing,

880
00:37:27,700 --> 00:37:30,440
and the appliances for their homes.

881
00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:32,760
We did a lot of the Parade Homes.

882
00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:34,480
I think there was just one

883
00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:37,080
that we didn't have a part in this year.

884
00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:39,240
So we were really excited about that.

885
00:37:39,240 --> 00:37:42,200
We love our community of builders.

886
00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:45,840
Well, I just wanna touch on kitchens one last time

887
00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:47,440
because, well, I like to cook,

888
00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:51,480
but you know, one of the things that I have noticed

889
00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:55,140
over the past several years is in our kitchens,

890
00:37:55,140 --> 00:37:57,260
we're seeing more and more,

891
00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:02,800
I'm just gonna call it more commercially equipped kitchens

892
00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:07,800
than we have regularly seen in my opinion.

893
00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:12,540
We're seeing more, even though they're made for homes,

894
00:38:12,540 --> 00:38:16,340
but more robust cooktops in stoves

895
00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:22,280
and in these huge Arctic fridge

896
00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:26,200
and all these other items that we're seeing in homes

897
00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:31,200
that for years, parents have said,

898
00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:34,080
why do we have to have five fridges?

899
00:38:34,080 --> 00:38:37,040
I mean, now these big things, these big items

900
00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:39,720
that we would see typically in a commercial environment,

901
00:38:39,720 --> 00:38:43,320
now it's not so strange for us to see in a home now.

902
00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:46,120
And to me, I think it's awesome, like my cooktop,

903
00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:48,120
I'm like, I wish I had one of these

904
00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:52,700
that was nice, big, commercial grade, heavy duty

905
00:38:52,700 --> 00:38:54,200
with a good hood over the top of it.

906
00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:58,160
And seeing those in kitchens, I personally, I really like.

907
00:38:58,160 --> 00:39:01,360
Well, a lot of people are going

908
00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:03,320
with more commercial appliances

909
00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:06,980
and what has happened is that the vendors

910
00:39:06,980 --> 00:39:10,960
have seen this trend and it is becoming more affordable

911
00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:15,080
to have that 48 inch range because it used to be,

912
00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:17,400
you would go to your Thermador's or your Wolf's

913
00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:20,200
or Viking to get that.

914
00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:23,840
There are a lot of the less expensive brands

915
00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:27,580
that are also making a 48 inch range

916
00:39:27,580 --> 00:39:30,200
so that you can have that commercial look in your home.

917
00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:34,040
I personally, in my house, I have one big refrigerator

918
00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:36,920
and then I do my freezer in my garage

919
00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:40,460
because I don't use a freezer that much.

920
00:39:40,460 --> 00:39:44,920
And if I want ice cream, I should have to walk to get it.

921
00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:49,120
So I have just one big 30 inch refrigerator

922
00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:51,600
because we need a lot of freshness.

923
00:39:51,600 --> 00:39:56,600
Even the big refrigerators have become very affordable.

924
00:39:56,600 --> 00:39:59,640
You can do a big 60 inch fridge freezer

925
00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:02,240
for a very, very, very affordable price.

926
00:40:02,240 --> 00:40:04,520
So that's one of the things that our consultants

927
00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:07,820
help you do is you come in, tell us what your price range is

928
00:40:07,820 --> 00:40:09,480
and what your dreams are.

929
00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:12,320
And then we help you bring those to life.

930
00:40:13,300 --> 00:40:16,080
All right, so Pray to Homes,

931
00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:19,880
42nd anniversary of the Pray to Homes.

932
00:40:19,880 --> 00:40:22,180
Go see some homes, go see some houses.

933
00:40:22,180 --> 00:40:25,700
You can go to thepraytohomesnoxville.com

934
00:40:25,700 --> 00:40:29,160
to find out where all of these homes are located.

935
00:40:29,160 --> 00:40:31,600
Look at the floor plans, look at the price ranges

936
00:40:31,600 --> 00:40:35,400
and well, just get you a map of figure out where to go.

937
00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:38,040
Before we wrap up this hour,

938
00:40:38,040 --> 00:40:40,800
I do wanna mention our wonderful segment,

939
00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:42,700
the topic of the day.

940
00:40:42,700 --> 00:40:44,840
And well, today,

941
00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:51,120
we're looking up at the sky trying to catch a solar eclipse.

942
00:40:51,120 --> 00:40:53,360
You've probably heard on the news that East Tennessee

943
00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:56,360
will see a partial eclipse during the lunch hour today.

944
00:40:56,360 --> 00:40:58,400
The moon will start to cross over the sun

945
00:40:58,400 --> 00:41:00,500
at 11.43 this morning.

946
00:41:00,500 --> 00:41:03,840
Peak coverage will be at 1.10 this afternoon

947
00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:06,600
and the eclipse will be done by 2.40.

948
00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:09,980
Folks in the desert Southwest will see a ring of fire

949
00:41:09,980 --> 00:41:13,000
in the sky, that's where the moon shadow exactly lines up

950
00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:16,480
with the sun, except the moon isn't big enough

951
00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:18,880
to create a total eclipse like the one we had

952
00:41:18,880 --> 00:41:19,720
a few years ago.

953
00:41:19,720 --> 00:41:22,720
Instead, the outer edges of the sun will shine around

954
00:41:22,720 --> 00:41:25,020
the outline of the moon.

955
00:41:25,020 --> 00:41:27,880
That's not gonna happen here.

956
00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:30,520
Instead, the sun will just have a notch in it

957
00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:32,760
where the moon covers a small section of it.

958
00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:34,520
All the safety warnings still apply,

959
00:41:34,520 --> 00:41:36,440
protect your eyes today if you're tailgating

960
00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:37,700
and watching the eclipse.

961
00:41:37,700 --> 00:41:42,040
And be sure to check out your Facebook feeds or Instagrams

962
00:41:42,040 --> 00:41:45,300
or whatever it is you're on because this ring of fire

963
00:41:45,300 --> 00:41:47,400
from out there in the desert is gonna be,

964
00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:49,580
it's gonna be pretty cool just to see that.

965
00:41:49,580 --> 00:41:50,420
I'm excited.

966
00:41:50,420 --> 00:41:51,980
I didn't realize that was today.

967
00:41:51,980 --> 00:41:52,820
That's really great.

968
00:41:52,820 --> 00:41:53,640
Yeah.

969
00:41:53,640 --> 00:41:54,480
See?

970
00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:57,260
See, you've got Parade of Homes, you've got UT football.

971
00:41:57,260 --> 00:41:58,920
This is a, you've got an eclipse.

972
00:41:58,920 --> 00:42:01,520
This is a fantastic weekend, great fall weather.

973
00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:05,000
I mean, go see our homes, see the builders,

974
00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:07,420
cheer on the Vols and watch an eclipse.

975
00:42:07,420 --> 00:42:09,840
I'm telling you, what more could you ask for, right?

976
00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:10,660
I mean.

977
00:42:10,660 --> 00:42:13,940
If he doesn't end the show with either ring of fire

978
00:42:13,940 --> 00:42:16,900
or total eclipse of the heart, I'm gonna be upset.

979
00:42:16,900 --> 00:42:22,240
I'm gonna Google that now.

980
00:42:22,240 --> 00:42:23,580
Chris, I guess you got your orders now, so.

981
00:42:23,580 --> 00:42:24,680
Oh my goodness.

982
00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:27,820
Well, Lisa, Becky, thank you ladies for joining me.

983
00:42:27,820 --> 00:42:28,660
Yeah, thank you.

984
00:42:28,660 --> 00:42:31,020
Last weekend and this weekend, it has been a blast.

985
00:42:31,020 --> 00:42:34,020
I always enjoy doing everything we can to help support

986
00:42:34,020 --> 00:42:35,560
and let people know about our local

987
00:42:35,560 --> 00:42:37,020
Home Builders Association.

988
00:42:37,020 --> 00:42:39,060
They're so vital to our community

989
00:42:39,060 --> 00:42:41,000
and to the homes that we build.

990
00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:44,040
We are gonna take a break here at the top of the hour.

991
00:42:44,040 --> 00:42:46,740
We'll be back on Around the House with Scott Brokaw,

992
00:42:46,740 --> 00:42:49,540
a news talk, 97 WOKI.

993
00:42:50,580 --> 00:42:53,540
Good morning, welcome to Around the House.

994
00:42:54,480 --> 00:42:57,840
If you've been listening with us for the first hour,

995
00:42:57,840 --> 00:43:00,180
I wanna thank our guests, Becky Snyder and Lisa

996
00:43:00,180 --> 00:43:02,940
from Ferguson's.

997
00:43:02,940 --> 00:43:07,940
Becky is the co-owner and carrying on Loomis Construction

998
00:43:08,860 --> 00:43:11,260
out there in the Sevierville area.

999
00:43:11,260 --> 00:43:13,740
Thank you ladies so much for being here this morning.

1000
00:43:13,740 --> 00:43:17,060
Go to theparadeofhomesnoxville.com

1001
00:43:17,060 --> 00:43:19,340
to find a list of the parade houses

1002
00:43:20,340 --> 00:43:23,020
and a map to be able to find out where they are.

1003
00:43:24,500 --> 00:43:27,780
But I guess most likely, you're probably gonna be

1004
00:43:27,780 --> 00:43:29,660
paying attention to this little thing

1005
00:43:29,660 --> 00:43:32,380
we have in town called football.

1006
00:43:33,180 --> 00:43:37,860
The Vols are in action today against Texas A&M

1007
00:43:37,860 --> 00:43:39,620
at Neyland Stadium.

1008
00:43:39,620 --> 00:43:41,880
They're honoring Eric Barry today

1009
00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:46,380
for being voted into the College Football Hall of Fame.

1010
00:43:46,380 --> 00:43:50,020
Eric and his basically entire family will be here.

1011
00:43:50,020 --> 00:43:54,260
They have great heritage here with our Tennessee Vols.

1012
00:43:54,260 --> 00:43:56,260
Kickoff for the game today is at 3.30.

1013
00:43:56,260 --> 00:43:59,300
If you don't have tickets, you can catch the game on CBS

1014
00:43:59,300 --> 00:44:03,920
and on WIVK, the flagship station of the Vol network.

1015
00:44:03,920 --> 00:44:06,500
The Dixie Lee Farmer's Market is open

1016
00:44:06,500 --> 00:44:08,260
for just three more Saturdays.

1017
00:44:08,260 --> 00:44:11,580
The market is on Kingston Pike near the Renaissance Farragut

1018
00:44:11,580 --> 00:44:14,020
and open today from nine to noon.

1019
00:44:16,300 --> 00:44:20,580
Boo at the Zoo is open from 5.30 to eight at Zoo Knoxville.

1020
00:44:20,580 --> 00:44:23,620
I always look forward to that kicking off every year.

1021
00:44:23,620 --> 00:44:26,500
Tonight, Star Wars characters will be roaming the zoo

1022
00:44:26,500 --> 00:44:27,980
as part of the entertainment.

1023
00:44:27,980 --> 00:44:32,980
This 37-year tradition is fun for kids of all ages.

1024
00:44:33,220 --> 00:44:34,940
I'm trying to figure out what my costume's gonna be

1025
00:44:34,940 --> 00:44:36,780
this year, Big Jim.

1026
00:44:36,780 --> 00:44:38,980
To get tickets or find out a complete list of events

1027
00:44:38,980 --> 00:44:43,380
happening around town, go to visitnoxville.com.

1028
00:44:43,380 --> 00:44:46,740
That's visitnoxville.com.

1029
00:44:46,740 --> 00:44:50,540
Well, tomorrow's weather's supposed to be a little chilly.

1030
00:44:50,540 --> 00:44:52,980
It's been a long time since we've had temperatures

1031
00:44:52,980 --> 00:44:55,420
stay below 60 degrees.

1032
00:44:55,420 --> 00:44:59,740
So what do you do if you turn on the heat

1033
00:44:59,740 --> 00:45:01,280
and nothing happens?

1034
00:45:01,280 --> 00:45:02,540
I know what I do.

1035
00:45:02,540 --> 00:45:04,580
Sometimes switching back and forth between heating

1036
00:45:04,580 --> 00:45:06,700
and cooling can cause your compressor to lock up

1037
00:45:06,700 --> 00:45:09,860
or trip a breaker or some kind of other havoc.

1038
00:45:09,860 --> 00:45:14,740
Here to talk about HVAC issues is Big Jim, Jim Michaels,

1039
00:45:14,740 --> 00:45:18,020
founder of HCS Mechanical Contractors.

1040
00:45:18,020 --> 00:45:19,520
How you doing this morning, Big Jim?

1041
00:45:19,520 --> 00:45:21,300
Great, great.

1042
00:45:21,300 --> 00:45:22,740
Got prey to homes going,

1043
00:45:22,740 --> 00:45:25,060
got the Tennessee Vols this afternoon.

1044
00:45:26,020 --> 00:45:27,860
Couldn't be a better day.

1045
00:45:27,860 --> 00:45:30,700
You know, we hope it's gonna get a lot better

1046
00:45:30,700 --> 00:45:31,940
today this afternoon.

1047
00:45:31,940 --> 00:45:34,060
About 7.30 maybe?

1048
00:45:34,060 --> 00:45:34,900
Well, you know,

1049
00:45:34,900 --> 00:45:36,860
yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

1050
00:45:36,860 --> 00:45:38,980
right there, 6.36, yeah, mm-hmm.

1051
00:45:38,980 --> 00:45:40,220
Yes, indeed.

1052
00:45:40,220 --> 00:45:43,220
So Big Jim, obviously I know you well

1053
00:45:43,220 --> 00:45:46,760
and I know what you guys do, but for our listeners,

1054
00:45:46,760 --> 00:45:50,100
tell us, tell us all about who, who is HCS Mechanical?

1055
00:45:50,100 --> 00:45:50,940
Who are you?

1056
00:45:50,940 --> 00:45:53,040
What do you, what do you stand for?

1057
00:45:53,040 --> 00:45:53,880
What's your mission?

1058
00:45:53,880 --> 00:45:54,700
What's your goals?

1059
00:45:55,940 --> 00:45:59,600
We are a residential light commercial company.

1060
00:46:01,540 --> 00:46:03,620
Do a lot of new homes.

1061
00:46:03,620 --> 00:46:06,340
It's kind of transitioned over from when I started

1062
00:46:06,340 --> 00:46:09,340
from doing change outs and remodels

1063
00:46:09,340 --> 00:46:12,100
and there's not very many houses left

1064
00:46:12,100 --> 00:46:15,840
that have like window air conditioners left to do.

1065
00:46:15,840 --> 00:46:19,300
So we're kind of in the new homes business now.

1066
00:46:19,300 --> 00:46:22,700
We did 213 houses in 22.

1067
00:46:22,700 --> 00:46:23,540
Wow.

1068
00:46:23,540 --> 00:46:25,440
Got some great builders we work for.

1069
00:46:27,160 --> 00:46:29,100
Just, that's where we are.

1070
00:46:29,100 --> 00:46:31,860
Got a good, great service guys.

1071
00:46:31,860 --> 00:46:34,500
I'm just, I'm so proud of Matt and Michael

1072
00:46:34,500 --> 00:46:37,620
that it's just very proud of them guys.

1073
00:46:37,620 --> 00:46:39,540
They, they busted.

1074
00:46:39,540 --> 00:46:41,980
They get better reviews than I could have ever gotten

1075
00:46:41,980 --> 00:46:42,820
by myself.

1076
00:46:45,260 --> 00:46:47,340
Well, that's, I mean, that's, that's a big feat

1077
00:46:47,340 --> 00:46:49,300
because I mean, I know you, right?

1078
00:46:49,300 --> 00:46:52,140
And for people that do know you, you're, you're,

1079
00:46:52,140 --> 00:46:54,780
well, quite frankly, you're, you're a really likable guy.

1080
00:46:54,780 --> 00:46:58,820
You know, you have, you always seem to have a smile

1081
00:46:58,820 --> 00:47:02,500
on your face and you always bring charm and delight

1082
00:47:03,440 --> 00:47:05,280
with good conversation.

1083
00:47:05,280 --> 00:47:09,260
And you know, it's always, it's always just good to see.

1084
00:47:09,260 --> 00:47:10,100
It just is.

1085
00:47:10,100 --> 00:47:12,120
So for them guys to get better reviews

1086
00:47:12,120 --> 00:47:14,220
than what you would have got on your own.

1087
00:47:14,220 --> 00:47:15,360
I don't know, man.

1088
00:47:16,500 --> 00:47:17,340
They do.

1089
00:47:17,340 --> 00:47:19,380
It's pretty hard to beat that right there.

1090
00:47:20,380 --> 00:47:25,380
So how long have you guys been in business?

1091
00:47:25,380 --> 00:47:28,700
I started doing heat and air in 1987

1092
00:47:29,940 --> 00:47:34,780
and went on my own in 91,

1093
00:47:34,780 --> 00:47:39,160
but we just, I was very small,

1094
00:47:39,160 --> 00:47:42,220
but in 2000, 2000, I think it was 2001, maybe

1095
00:47:44,260 --> 00:47:49,260
I incorporated, got me a state license and here we went.

1096
00:47:49,260 --> 00:47:54,260
My, my old friend, Cecil Hopkins, used to own Shamrock.

1097
00:47:56,620 --> 00:47:58,860
He came in and got me started doing commercial,

1098
00:47:58,860 --> 00:48:01,180
light commercial stuff back then.

1099
00:48:01,180 --> 00:48:02,840
And God, I miss him every day.

1100
00:48:04,420 --> 00:48:08,500
He was a great friend and a wealth of knowledge.

1101
00:48:08,500 --> 00:48:11,980
He's probably as smart on doing these commercial stuff

1102
00:48:11,980 --> 00:48:13,520
as anybody I know.

1103
00:48:14,460 --> 00:48:16,980
And he passed away several years ago.

1104
00:48:16,980 --> 00:48:21,980
And in the last four or five years, maybe six,

1105
00:48:22,460 --> 00:48:24,980
we've really turned over to new construction

1106
00:48:24,980 --> 00:48:29,420
and just like I said, got some great builders I work for.

1107
00:48:29,420 --> 00:48:30,260
Right.

1108
00:48:30,260 --> 00:48:34,060
So, you know, the past week and this week,

1109
00:48:34,060 --> 00:48:39,060
the first hour is we have been talking with the co-chairs

1110
00:48:39,260 --> 00:48:42,580
of the Bray to Homes from the Home Builders Association.

1111
00:48:42,580 --> 00:48:47,580
So, I mean, you know, I just don't think of HVAC

1112
00:48:50,340 --> 00:48:54,460
as one of those ever changing sexy components

1113
00:48:54,460 --> 00:48:56,700
that we talk about in a new home, right?

1114
00:48:56,700 --> 00:48:58,220
Changes every other month.

1115
00:48:58,220 --> 00:48:59,060
It does, don't it?

1116
00:48:59,060 --> 00:48:59,900
Yes, it does.

1117
00:48:59,900 --> 00:49:00,860
It's constantly changing.

1118
00:49:00,860 --> 00:49:03,500
It's constantly changing and let's face it,

1119
00:49:03,500 --> 00:49:08,460
one of the main factors in our homes that we all expect

1120
00:49:08,460 --> 00:49:13,060
to provide us comfort is our HVAC system, you know?

1121
00:49:13,060 --> 00:49:15,940
It's the, it's kind of one of those

1122
00:49:15,940 --> 00:49:17,760
that nobody really talks about.

1123
00:49:17,760 --> 00:49:19,660
Nobody hears about it until it breaks.

1124
00:49:20,500 --> 00:49:21,600
That's true.

1125
00:49:21,600 --> 00:49:23,140
That's true.

1126
00:49:23,140 --> 00:49:25,900
Me, Sheila and I, we keep our house

1127
00:49:25,900 --> 00:49:29,020
at like 64 degrees year round.

1128
00:49:31,440 --> 00:49:34,460
She was very cold blooded when I married her

1129
00:49:34,460 --> 00:49:37,340
as far as the temperatures in the house.

1130
00:49:37,340 --> 00:49:38,940
I've got her climatized now.

1131
00:49:41,300 --> 00:49:45,260
I don't know if I could handle 64 degrees on a regular.

1132
00:49:46,100 --> 00:49:47,580
Free sleeping nights.

1133
00:49:47,580 --> 00:49:49,260
Yeah, it'd be good for sleeping.

1134
00:49:49,260 --> 00:49:51,580
I mean, cuddling up and that'd be,

1135
00:49:51,580 --> 00:49:53,460
I'd be good with that, I'd be good with that.

1136
00:49:53,460 --> 00:49:57,220
So, we briefly talked about it, the Bray to Homes.

1137
00:49:57,220 --> 00:50:01,260
Do you even know how many Bray houses that you're in?

1138
00:50:01,260 --> 00:50:02,500
Yes.

1139
00:50:02,500 --> 00:50:03,320
How many?

1140
00:50:03,320 --> 00:50:04,160
Three.

1141
00:50:04,160 --> 00:50:04,980
You're in three Bray houses.

1142
00:50:04,980 --> 00:50:06,780
We did three for Mike Stevens.

1143
00:50:06,780 --> 00:50:07,620
All right.

1144
00:50:07,620 --> 00:50:12,620
And I'll tell you, these houses are absolutely gorgeous.

1145
00:50:14,820 --> 00:50:17,420
If I'm not mistaken, I think they're furnished.

1146
00:50:18,380 --> 00:50:23,380
And to the nines, I mean, they are absolutely gorgeous.

1147
00:50:23,980 --> 00:50:26,940
They've got one at North Shore Town Center.

1148
00:50:26,940 --> 00:50:28,580
And I'm not gonna mention the name of it,

1149
00:50:28,580 --> 00:50:31,880
but it has, because it's the homeowner's name,

1150
00:50:33,060 --> 00:50:36,220
it has a hot tub and swimming pool

1151
00:50:36,220 --> 00:50:37,620
and a double loft.

1152
00:50:38,460 --> 00:50:42,300
It just overlooks, you know,

1153
00:50:42,300 --> 00:50:44,100
you can see the mountains and everything.

1154
00:50:44,100 --> 00:50:45,940
And you can pretty much with all of them,

1155
00:50:45,940 --> 00:50:49,060
but this one is just really done to the nines.

1156
00:50:49,060 --> 00:50:50,060
Yeah.

1157
00:50:50,060 --> 00:50:52,280
And I haven't, I need to go check it out

1158
00:50:52,280 --> 00:50:56,180
because we also have worked on that project

1159
00:50:56,180 --> 00:50:58,620
and it had some unique challenges,

1160
00:50:58,620 --> 00:51:01,340
having that swimming pool in the middle

1161
00:51:01,340 --> 00:51:04,980
and then having the, well,

1162
00:51:04,980 --> 00:51:07,580
I guess we'll call it detached living quarters,

1163
00:51:07,580 --> 00:51:10,280
but you know, it had some uniqueness in it,

1164
00:51:10,280 --> 00:51:14,240
but it was such a neat design in such a neat house.

1165
00:51:14,240 --> 00:51:15,840
Just to be able to be a part of that.

1166
00:51:15,840 --> 00:51:18,740
Well, I mean, quite frankly, it's, you know.

1167
00:51:18,740 --> 00:51:20,100
That's what Mike Stevens does.

1168
00:51:20,100 --> 00:51:21,980
He's got his own in-house designer.

1169
00:51:21,980 --> 00:51:22,820
Yeah.

1170
00:51:22,820 --> 00:51:23,900
And they work with the homeowners

1171
00:51:23,900 --> 00:51:28,900
and been working for him for about five years now.

1172
00:51:29,460 --> 00:51:33,060
And he's got him a team now.

1173
00:51:33,060 --> 00:51:36,900
And it's things are a lot better than they were

1174
00:51:36,900 --> 00:51:39,620
or different, not better, different than when I started.

1175
00:51:39,620 --> 00:51:40,820
Yeah. Oh yeah.

1176
00:51:40,820 --> 00:51:42,420
Yeah. Well, you know, I mean, let's face it.

1177
00:51:42,420 --> 00:51:45,340
We've all had to make some changes,

1178
00:51:45,340 --> 00:51:49,500
had to adapt and, you know,

1179
00:51:49,500 --> 00:51:53,340
look, technology is afforded us a lot of opportunities

1180
00:51:53,340 --> 00:51:56,780
to make some changes, to get some more cohesive teams

1181
00:51:56,780 --> 00:52:01,100
and really allow us all to kind of elevate what we do.

1182
00:52:01,100 --> 00:52:04,860
And I, for one, obviously, technology guy,

1183
00:52:05,780 --> 00:52:07,100
I embrace it.

1184
00:52:07,100 --> 00:52:07,940
I love it.

1185
00:52:07,940 --> 00:52:10,020
You know, just the modern conveniences of things

1186
00:52:10,020 --> 00:52:11,580
that we can get from technology.

1187
00:52:11,580 --> 00:52:12,780
Hey, you did my building.

1188
00:52:12,780 --> 00:52:13,620
I love it.

1189
00:52:13,620 --> 00:52:15,380
Yeah. Yeah.

1190
00:52:15,380 --> 00:52:17,900
You know, and actually we need to talk about it

1191
00:52:17,900 --> 00:52:20,340
because there's some cool new stuff that we'll talk about.

1192
00:52:20,340 --> 00:52:21,660
But, all right.

1193
00:52:21,660 --> 00:52:24,740
Anyway, but for now, what we're talking about is HVAC

1194
00:52:24,740 --> 00:52:26,380
and we're actually up against a break.

1195
00:52:26,380 --> 00:52:27,660
So we're going to take a short break.

1196
00:52:27,660 --> 00:52:30,220
We're going to come back and well, big Jim,

1197
00:52:30,220 --> 00:52:31,660
I'm just going to put you on the spot

1198
00:52:31,660 --> 00:52:34,700
and have you share about some of this awesome new stuff

1199
00:52:34,700 --> 00:52:37,580
that's happening in the HVAC world.

1200
00:52:37,580 --> 00:52:40,100
Right here when we come back on Around the House

1201
00:52:40,100 --> 00:52:43,820
with Scott Brokamp on News Talk 98.7 WOKI.

1202
00:52:44,980 --> 00:52:47,100
Welcome back to Around the House.

1203
00:52:47,100 --> 00:52:51,900
I'm Scott Brokamp and I have Big Jim Michaels here with me.

1204
00:52:52,980 --> 00:52:57,660
Big Jim is a founder of HCS Mechanical Contractors

1205
00:52:57,660 --> 00:52:59,820
here in Knoxville, Tennessee.

1206
00:52:59,820 --> 00:53:02,500
Great guy, great company, great folks.

1207
00:53:02,500 --> 00:53:06,340
Hey, if you've got questions HVAC related,

1208
00:53:06,340 --> 00:53:08,380
well, even maybe technology related,

1209
00:53:08,380 --> 00:53:09,500
feel free to give us a call.

1210
00:53:09,500 --> 00:53:14,100
Shoot us a text 865-656-8255.

1211
00:53:14,100 --> 00:53:19,100
That's 865-656-8255.

1212
00:53:19,120 --> 00:53:20,820
You can find Big Jim Michaels.

1213
00:53:20,820 --> 00:53:25,060
You can find them online at hcsmechanicalcontractors.com.

1214
00:53:26,380 --> 00:53:27,220
What's that?

1215
00:53:27,220 --> 00:53:28,140
Incorporated.

1216
00:53:28,140 --> 00:53:29,460
Oh, incorporated.

1217
00:53:29,460 --> 00:53:30,780
Well, all right.

1218
00:53:30,780 --> 00:53:32,980
So what's that website then?

1219
00:53:32,980 --> 00:53:35,500
HCS mechanical.com

1220
00:53:35,500 --> 00:53:40,060
or hcsmechanicalcontractorsincorporated.com.

1221
00:53:40,060 --> 00:53:40,900
Gotcha.

1222
00:53:40,900 --> 00:53:43,740
All right, sorry, had a little typo here on my paper.

1223
00:53:43,740 --> 00:53:44,820
It's all right.

1224
00:53:44,820 --> 00:53:47,460
So Big Jim, tell us,

1225
00:53:47,460 --> 00:53:51,060
so what are the products that you guys actually sell

1226
00:53:51,060 --> 00:53:52,020
in service?

1227
00:53:53,180 --> 00:53:54,660
Oh, we're train dealers.

1228
00:53:54,660 --> 00:53:55,740
Okay. Excuse me.

1229
00:53:55,740 --> 00:53:57,420
Nothing beats train, right?

1230
00:53:57,420 --> 00:53:59,780
It's hard to stop a train.

1231
00:53:59,780 --> 00:54:02,540
But, and we sell Goodman,

1232
00:54:03,420 --> 00:54:06,380
but the majority is train.

1233
00:54:06,380 --> 00:54:08,780
That's what most of our builders prefer.

1234
00:54:10,340 --> 00:54:12,980
Gonna be a lot of new changes coming.

1235
00:54:12,980 --> 00:54:14,060
Yeah.

1236
00:54:14,060 --> 00:54:18,140
The refrigerant, they're gonna change it again from 410A.

1237
00:54:18,140 --> 00:54:20,660
I think it's, if I'm not mistaken,

1238
00:54:20,660 --> 00:54:22,620
the number's R453.

1239
00:54:22,620 --> 00:54:27,620
And completely different base in the refrigerant.

1240
00:54:30,500 --> 00:54:34,060
I never thought they'd do that because 410A just works.

1241
00:54:34,060 --> 00:54:36,860
What they're trying to do is lower the pressure

1242
00:54:36,860 --> 00:54:40,220
because 410A operates at a very high pressure

1243
00:54:40,220 --> 00:54:42,780
and tends to leak more.

1244
00:54:42,780 --> 00:54:47,780
And the OR22s that they discontinued,

1245
00:54:47,780 --> 00:54:52,780
it ran at like a 75 suction pressure,

1246
00:54:53,660 --> 00:54:56,860
220 head pressure.

1247
00:54:56,860 --> 00:55:01,860
Well, this runs at a 140, 150 suction and a 330 on the head.

1248
00:55:04,500 --> 00:55:06,780
If you got a tiny leak, it's gonna leak.

1249
00:55:06,780 --> 00:55:07,620
Sure.

1250
00:55:07,620 --> 00:55:09,460
You gotta be very careful when you weld

1251
00:55:09,460 --> 00:55:13,100
and all the refrigerant lines and such.

1252
00:55:13,100 --> 00:55:16,940
But I think they're trying to incorporate something

1253
00:55:16,940 --> 00:55:21,940
that has less pressure and don't know about any cost.

1254
00:55:22,860 --> 00:55:25,740
But new things cost more usually.

1255
00:55:27,980 --> 00:55:30,140
Usually new things cost more when they come out,

1256
00:55:30,140 --> 00:55:34,380
but usually over time they tend to stabilize.

1257
00:55:34,380 --> 00:55:36,940
And well, either that or we just grow accustomed to it.

1258
00:55:36,940 --> 00:55:37,780
One of the two.

1259
00:55:38,740 --> 00:55:43,740
Well, in technology, as we alluded to in the previous segment,

1260
00:55:44,260 --> 00:55:45,660
technology changes things.

1261
00:55:45,660 --> 00:55:50,660
It affords us the ability to do things better.

1262
00:55:50,660 --> 00:55:54,620
I have this conversation with my parents regularly

1263
00:55:54,620 --> 00:55:58,700
and as most people my age deal with is,

1264
00:55:58,700 --> 00:56:01,540
well, this is how we used to do it.

1265
00:56:01,540 --> 00:56:04,180
Well, we've learned some things.

1266
00:56:04,180 --> 00:56:08,420
We have been able to use all of those smarts

1267
00:56:08,420 --> 00:56:10,540
that you gave us as wonderful parents,

1268
00:56:10,540 --> 00:56:11,540
thanks mom and dad.

1269
00:56:11,540 --> 00:56:16,340
And we have used those to be able to have some,

1270
00:56:16,340 --> 00:56:18,900
learn some things to be able to make improvements

1271
00:56:18,900 --> 00:56:21,100
to what we do and what we have.

1272
00:56:21,100 --> 00:56:25,620
And I think what little bit I know about this new refrigerant

1273
00:56:25,620 --> 00:56:30,420
is gonna help with our energy efficiencies as well.

1274
00:56:30,420 --> 00:56:31,700
And I mean, let's face it,

1275
00:56:31,700 --> 00:56:35,700
the cost of our utilities isn't going down.

1276
00:56:35,700 --> 00:56:36,540
Nope.

1277
00:56:36,540 --> 00:56:40,780
So anything that we can do to try to help

1278
00:56:40,780 --> 00:56:45,780
with those items is always a plus in my opinion.

1279
00:56:46,060 --> 00:56:48,900
I agree 100%.

1280
00:56:48,900 --> 00:56:53,900
They've got the sear ratings of these newer systems.

1281
00:56:54,580 --> 00:56:56,740
They've just changed over the last year.

1282
00:56:56,740 --> 00:56:59,540
They are indeed last year.

1283
00:56:59,540 --> 00:57:01,420
It's what's called a sear two.

1284
00:57:04,460 --> 00:57:05,380
What's that mean?

1285
00:57:05,380 --> 00:57:10,380
Well, I think basically what it means is like,

1286
00:57:12,900 --> 00:57:17,900
they were claiming a 14 sear was 14 sear on all the units.

1287
00:57:17,900 --> 00:57:20,740
Well, the sear rating point wise

1288
00:57:20,740 --> 00:57:22,580
depends on the size of the unit.

1289
00:57:24,220 --> 00:57:27,260
Like when you call it 14 sear,

1290
00:57:27,260 --> 00:57:29,540
there might be in a two to a five ton,

1291
00:57:29,540 --> 00:57:31,740
only one of those sizes in there

1292
00:57:31,740 --> 00:57:34,260
that would be a true 14 sear.

1293
00:57:34,260 --> 00:57:38,140
It'd be a 13 eight or whatever.

1294
00:57:39,180 --> 00:57:41,820
So now they've come up with,

1295
00:57:41,820 --> 00:57:43,420
and it has to do with the static pressure

1296
00:57:43,420 --> 00:57:44,540
and how it operates.

1297
00:57:44,540 --> 00:57:48,620
And it's kind of hard to explain to get into all that,

1298
00:57:48,620 --> 00:57:51,100
but they're better.

1299
00:57:51,100 --> 00:57:52,660
They cost more, but they're better.

1300
00:57:52,660 --> 00:57:53,500
They're better.

1301
00:57:53,500 --> 00:57:55,580
Well, and again, technology, technology.

1302
00:57:55,580 --> 00:57:59,540
Hey, Big Jim, we've got a caller with us.

1303
00:57:59,540 --> 00:58:01,740
Bill is on the line.

1304
00:58:01,740 --> 00:58:02,860
Hey, good morning, Bill.

1305
00:58:02,860 --> 00:58:04,580
How are you this morning, sir?

1306
00:58:05,460 --> 00:58:06,300
Hello, Scott.

1307
00:58:06,300 --> 00:58:07,500
Thanks for taking my call.

1308
00:58:07,500 --> 00:58:08,460
Absolutely.

1309
00:58:09,580 --> 00:58:11,100
And I wanted to ask Big Jim,

1310
00:58:11,100 --> 00:58:14,100
as soon as he mentioned about the new Freon,

1311
00:58:15,580 --> 00:58:20,580
are they gonna be phasing out the 410

1312
00:58:21,220 --> 00:58:26,220
and can you convert your 410 unit to the new Freon?

1313
00:58:27,540 --> 00:58:32,540
Or do you have to change tubing and compressors

1314
00:58:32,540 --> 00:58:35,500
and can you convert it like you did before?

1315
00:58:35,500 --> 00:58:37,220
Man, great question, Bill.

1316
00:58:37,220 --> 00:58:38,300
That is a good question.

1317
00:58:38,300 --> 00:58:42,020
Well, it's just like the R22 that they did phase out.

1318
00:58:42,020 --> 00:58:43,620
They don't make the units anymore

1319
00:58:43,620 --> 00:58:45,980
when they changed it over to 410.

1320
00:58:45,980 --> 00:58:49,580
Yes, they are probably going to phase out 410,

1321
00:58:49,580 --> 00:58:53,020
but they'll have it available to keep using

1322
00:58:53,020 --> 00:58:55,300
in the existing units.

1323
00:58:55,300 --> 00:59:00,300
But it's just like R22 and 410A.

1324
00:59:00,300 --> 00:59:02,980
One has POE oil, one has mineral oil.

1325
00:59:02,980 --> 00:59:06,180
They don't mix, they make foam, it's non-condensable.

1326
00:59:06,180 --> 00:59:11,180
And nobody knows what the 453 is gonna be.

1327
00:59:11,340 --> 00:59:13,980
If it's gonna be compatible, if you can mix it,

1328
00:59:13,980 --> 00:59:18,020
probably not, but the units will be R&D

1329
00:59:18,020 --> 00:59:21,260
to use that particular refrigerant.

1330
00:59:22,460 --> 00:59:25,540
So even at this point, you don't even know

1331
00:59:25,540 --> 00:59:26,380
if we're gonna be able to-

1332
00:59:26,380 --> 00:59:28,820
It's not coming out till late 24 or 25.

1333
00:59:28,820 --> 00:59:30,140
I gotcha, I gotcha.

1334
00:59:30,140 --> 00:59:32,220
So, well, Bill, great question.

1335
00:59:33,100 --> 00:59:34,380
Well, I guess stay tuned.

1336
00:59:34,380 --> 00:59:38,340
We'll see if we're gonna be able to retro and convert

1337
00:59:38,340 --> 00:59:41,700
to the new refrigerant from 410 as we go.

1338
00:59:41,700 --> 00:59:44,260
But Bill, thank you very much for listening.

1339
00:59:44,260 --> 00:59:45,160
Thanks for calling in.

1340
00:59:45,160 --> 00:59:47,860
We certainly appreciate your call this morning.

1341
00:59:47,860 --> 00:59:50,740
You know, and that's a great question.

1342
00:59:50,740 --> 00:59:52,500
And one of the things that, you know,

1343
00:59:52,500 --> 00:59:54,940
I was in automotive business when we saw

1344
00:59:54,940 --> 00:59:57,820
in the auto world to go to 134A,

1345
00:59:57,820 --> 00:59:58,660
I think is what it was called,

1346
00:59:58,660 --> 01:00:00,540
but we went from- Change now.

1347
01:00:00,540 --> 01:00:02,020
You know, yeah, I mean, it's changed now.

1348
01:00:02,020 --> 01:00:04,740
I had to have my car serviced and big to do

1349
01:00:04,740 --> 01:00:08,700
because my car's on this new Freon and yada yada.

1350
01:00:08,700 --> 01:00:12,700
And in all of those changes, you know,

1351
01:00:13,860 --> 01:00:18,220
there was a lot of conversation about what are we gonna do

1352
01:00:18,220 --> 01:00:19,860
with what we currently have

1353
01:00:19,860 --> 01:00:21,820
and with the new stuff coming in.

1354
01:00:21,820 --> 01:00:24,580
And I don't know what's gonna happen,

1355
01:00:24,580 --> 01:00:29,060
but typically it seems like they normally find

1356
01:00:29,060 --> 01:00:32,780
some type of work around for a conversion.

1357
01:00:32,780 --> 01:00:34,460
But from my experience,

1358
01:00:34,460 --> 01:00:37,460
most of those conversions never really worked very well

1359
01:00:37,460 --> 01:00:41,100
because those systems were designed for, as you mentioned,

1360
01:00:41,100 --> 01:00:42,020
with that refrigerant,

1361
01:00:42,020 --> 01:00:44,020
you've got different head pressures that you run on.

1362
01:00:44,020 --> 01:00:46,020
You got different head pressures, different suctions,

1363
01:00:46,020 --> 01:00:47,620
and those different pressures

1364
01:00:47,620 --> 01:00:50,820
and those systems are designed around those pressures

1365
01:00:50,820 --> 01:00:52,100
because it's refrigerant.

1366
01:00:52,100 --> 01:00:55,740
It's gas to liquid, gas to liquid, right?

1367
01:00:55,740 --> 01:00:58,980
And so as that changes, the characteristics of it change

1368
01:00:58,980 --> 01:01:01,860
and then the efficiency and viability of it changes.

1369
01:01:01,860 --> 01:01:03,380
That's exactly right.

1370
01:01:03,380 --> 01:01:04,420
Exactly.

1371
01:01:04,420 --> 01:01:06,260
I almost sounded smart for a second.

1372
01:01:07,540 --> 01:01:08,380
Scott.

1373
01:01:10,380 --> 01:01:12,620
I'll tell you a good one too.

1374
01:01:12,620 --> 01:01:14,380
They've talked about coming out

1375
01:01:14,380 --> 01:01:18,180
with a propane-based refrigerant.

1376
01:01:18,180 --> 01:01:20,020
Propane-based refrigerant.

1377
01:01:20,020 --> 01:01:20,860
Propane-based.

1378
01:01:21,980 --> 01:01:22,820
Yes.

1379
01:01:23,700 --> 01:01:25,500
I'm just wondering how you weld it.

1380
01:01:26,900 --> 01:01:29,660
I'm pretty sure it's gonna have to be a cold weld.

1381
01:01:31,500 --> 01:01:33,020
That's interesting.

1382
01:01:33,020 --> 01:01:35,340
I had, yeah, I haven't heard of that.

1383
01:01:35,340 --> 01:01:40,340
I mean, obviously the gas level of that

1384
01:01:40,500 --> 01:01:42,860
is easily to obtain, but-

1385
01:01:42,860 --> 01:01:45,020
Propane is a great refrigerant.

1386
01:01:45,020 --> 01:01:47,780
Propane is a great refrigerant.

1387
01:01:47,780 --> 01:01:52,780
It, a lot of the refrigerators in like houseboats,

1388
01:01:55,980 --> 01:01:59,780
a lot of different things, they have the propane,

1389
01:01:59,780 --> 01:02:02,460
I can't remember the name of them, it's been so long,

1390
01:02:02,460 --> 01:02:04,900
but they used it as refrigerant.

1391
01:02:04,900 --> 01:02:05,740
No kidding.

1392
01:02:05,740 --> 01:02:06,580
Yeah.

1393
01:02:07,740 --> 01:02:12,460
Well, yeah, I don't know, I'd be really concerned.

1394
01:02:12,460 --> 01:02:16,820
A lot of older manas were made with propane refrigerant.

1395
01:02:16,820 --> 01:02:19,380
I'd be very concerned about a leak.

1396
01:02:19,380 --> 01:02:20,220
That's all I can tell you.

1397
01:02:20,220 --> 01:02:21,060
Boom.

1398
01:02:21,060 --> 01:02:23,300
I'd be very concerned about a leak.

1399
01:02:23,300 --> 01:02:25,260
Again, right, technology, right?

1400
01:02:25,260 --> 01:02:29,660
We learn things, we find ways to do things better,

1401
01:02:29,660 --> 01:02:34,660
make improvements, not just for always energy efficiency,

1402
01:02:35,020 --> 01:02:37,000
but sometimes just for safety.

1403
01:02:38,860 --> 01:02:42,420
And again, when you mentioned this new refrigerant

1404
01:02:42,420 --> 01:02:43,820
when we talk about pressures,

1405
01:02:44,820 --> 01:02:47,220
obviously if we can operate efficiently

1406
01:02:47,220 --> 01:02:51,580
on a lower pressure, obviously that's going to allow

1407
01:02:52,660 --> 01:02:54,620
a few benefits.

1408
01:02:54,620 --> 01:02:57,940
If there is a leak, obviously it will be a slower leak.

1409
01:02:57,940 --> 01:02:59,780
It's not being forced out as quickly,

1410
01:02:59,780 --> 01:03:02,320
depending obviously where the leak is.

1411
01:03:02,320 --> 01:03:05,980
But even in safety issues, right, if for some reason

1412
01:03:07,380 --> 01:03:10,980
somebody decides they want to tamper with their HVAC system

1413
01:03:10,980 --> 01:03:15,980
that is under pressure and it hasn't been reclaimed properly

1414
01:03:16,780 --> 01:03:20,220
and that pressure is still on the line when damage occurs,

1415
01:03:20,220 --> 01:03:23,900
I've seen it, it can be dangerous.

1416
01:03:23,900 --> 01:03:27,780
Man, that refrigerant, that freon blowing out of that line,

1417
01:03:27,780 --> 01:03:29,620
it can be dangerous.

1418
01:03:29,620 --> 01:03:32,100
I've seen people get their fingers burnt very bad

1419
01:03:32,100 --> 01:03:37,100
and it blow a trader valve out, here it comes,

1420
01:03:37,620 --> 01:03:40,100
and if you're over it.

1421
01:03:40,100 --> 01:03:41,760
Yeah, yeah.

1422
01:03:42,980 --> 01:03:45,580
A guy I used to work with in the automotive world

1423
01:03:46,780 --> 01:03:48,180
almost lost an eye.

1424
01:03:50,180 --> 01:03:53,180
And that's exactly what happened, the trader valve popped

1425
01:03:54,220 --> 01:03:55,700
and he was over the top of it.

1426
01:03:55,700 --> 01:03:59,820
Luckily the trader valve didn't lodge itself in his face,

1427
01:03:59,820 --> 01:04:01,740
but he was right over the top of it

1428
01:04:01,740 --> 01:04:04,340
and the freon just hit him, he got him right below the eye

1429
01:04:04,340 --> 01:04:06,860
and I mean, he had a huge burn

1430
01:04:06,860 --> 01:04:08,800
and they were able to get him through it.

1431
01:04:08,800 --> 01:04:11,860
So again, safety concerns are always,

1432
01:04:11,860 --> 01:04:13,020
can be a part of it as well.

1433
01:04:13,020 --> 01:04:17,340
So as we talk about these things that change,

1434
01:04:17,340 --> 01:04:20,300
it's not always fun to talk about the change, right?

1435
01:04:20,300 --> 01:04:21,780
Nobody really likes change.

1436
01:04:21,780 --> 01:04:23,540
It's the one thing we know is constant in life,

1437
01:04:23,540 --> 01:04:24,900
but we still don't like it.

1438
01:04:24,900 --> 01:04:29,460
And with these changes, a lot of times can come cost

1439
01:04:29,460 --> 01:04:30,280
associated with it.

1440
01:04:30,280 --> 01:04:31,720
I mean, obviously from your end of it,

1441
01:04:31,720 --> 01:04:35,180
new freon is gonna be new tools, it's gonna be new,

1442
01:04:35,180 --> 01:04:39,220
probably new specialty equipment for doing your reclaims

1443
01:04:39,220 --> 01:04:41,180
and EVACs, stuff like that.

1444
01:04:41,180 --> 01:04:44,020
And so therefore there's gonna be more costs associated.

1445
01:04:44,020 --> 01:04:45,900
Absolutely, absolutely.

1446
01:04:45,900 --> 01:04:48,920
And in training, you gotta train the guys.

1447
01:04:48,920 --> 01:04:53,920
Boy, I tell you, we've hired some really good guys

1448
01:04:54,260 --> 01:04:59,260
in the last year and we were keeping them.

1449
01:05:00,500 --> 01:05:02,700
As far as I'm concerned, we're keeping them.

1450
01:05:02,700 --> 01:05:07,580
We put them on a truck with an experienced guy

1451
01:05:07,580 --> 01:05:10,220
and we've got some new guys that are really coming along.

1452
01:05:10,220 --> 01:05:13,340
They're interested, they show up to work every day

1453
01:05:13,340 --> 01:05:18,340
and glad to have them, because they're hard to find.

1454
01:05:19,060 --> 01:05:20,620
Well, they are, they are.

1455
01:05:20,620 --> 01:05:23,860
So we are gonna take a short break

1456
01:05:23,860 --> 01:05:27,100
and when we come back, we're gonna talk a little bit more

1457
01:05:27,100 --> 01:05:28,740
about some of that workmanship

1458
01:05:28,740 --> 01:05:32,020
and we're gonna learn a little bit more about,

1459
01:05:32,020 --> 01:05:36,580
well, Big Jim and HCS Mechanical right here

1460
01:05:36,580 --> 01:05:41,020
on Around the House with Scott Brokamp on News Talk 98.7WOKI.

1461
01:05:41,020 --> 01:05:43,580
Welcome back to Around the House.

1462
01:05:43,580 --> 01:05:45,460
Man, we're coming into the home stretch here

1463
01:05:45,460 --> 01:05:46,620
for today's show.

1464
01:05:48,660 --> 01:05:50,340
Hope you've enjoyed the show.

1465
01:05:50,340 --> 01:05:52,380
You know, I mean.

1466
01:05:52,380 --> 01:05:54,300
Hey, thank you for having me.

1467
01:05:54,300 --> 01:05:55,760
I'm glad you're here, buddy.

1468
01:05:55,760 --> 01:05:58,700
I'm glad you always enjoy having Big Jim around.

1469
01:05:58,700 --> 01:05:59,980
If you're listening this morning,

1470
01:05:59,980 --> 01:06:03,860
hey, send us an email at thehouseathissecurity.net.

1471
01:06:03,860 --> 01:06:05,180
I'd love to hear from you.

1472
01:06:05,180 --> 01:06:09,100
Anything that we can do to, well, make this show better.

1473
01:06:09,100 --> 01:06:12,020
You know, this show is near and dear to my heart

1474
01:06:12,020 --> 01:06:14,620
and I wanted to make sure that it continued on.

1475
01:06:14,620 --> 01:06:17,260
So, but let's, we wanna all work together

1476
01:06:17,260 --> 01:06:19,860
and make this the best thing that we can make it.

1477
01:06:19,860 --> 01:06:21,820
Anyway, with all that being said,

1478
01:06:21,820 --> 01:06:24,900
I know somebody here who likes to make things

1479
01:06:24,900 --> 01:06:26,520
the best way they can make it as well.

1480
01:06:26,520 --> 01:06:31,000
Mr. Jim Michaels, HCS Mechanical Contractors, Incorporated.

1481
01:06:32,260 --> 01:06:34,500
Big Jim, we were talking a little bit during the break

1482
01:06:34,500 --> 01:06:39,180
and one of the things that I like to talk about,

1483
01:06:39,180 --> 01:06:40,340
because I think it's one of the things

1484
01:06:40,340 --> 01:06:42,360
that makes us different as a company,

1485
01:06:42,360 --> 01:06:46,060
is that a lot of times when we're dealing with customers

1486
01:06:46,060 --> 01:06:51,060
in new construction, aesthetics come up and I get it, right?

1487
01:06:51,820 --> 01:06:54,140
I want things to look appealing.

1488
01:06:54,140 --> 01:06:56,060
I want them to look good.

1489
01:06:56,060 --> 01:06:59,540
When we have that finished product in place

1490
01:06:59,540 --> 01:07:02,260
and for us, there's a lot of products and services

1491
01:07:02,260 --> 01:07:04,300
that we can provide to be able to do that.

1492
01:07:05,180 --> 01:07:08,700
And I have been in some walkthroughs

1493
01:07:08,700 --> 01:07:10,500
in some new construction homes

1494
01:07:10,500 --> 01:07:12,940
with some other companies, not yours.

1495
01:07:12,940 --> 01:07:17,940
And maybe one of the spouses, you know,

1496
01:07:18,580 --> 01:07:20,680
I don't wanna look at that thing.

1497
01:07:20,680 --> 01:07:23,220
I don't want it there, I want it somewhere else.

1498
01:07:23,220 --> 01:07:25,660
And I, there's one home in particular

1499
01:07:25,660 --> 01:07:30,660
that I was a part of and the HVAC contractor said,

1500
01:07:31,460 --> 01:07:33,780
no problem, we'll move it here, we'll move it there,

1501
01:07:33,780 --> 01:07:35,620
we'll move it wherever you want.

1502
01:07:35,620 --> 01:07:38,940
And they moved into that house.

1503
01:07:39,940 --> 01:07:44,140
And within a couple of months of them living in that house,

1504
01:07:45,020 --> 01:07:49,740
they had a lot of issues because the HVAC system

1505
01:07:49,740 --> 01:07:53,340
was not up to their standard.

1506
01:07:53,340 --> 01:07:57,220
And again, I'm not a pro, now my daddy was,

1507
01:07:57,220 --> 01:08:00,380
he was a HVAC guy, that's what he did.

1508
01:08:00,380 --> 01:08:01,220
And-

1509
01:08:01,220 --> 01:08:02,060
I know that.

1510
01:08:02,060 --> 01:08:03,300
Yes sir, yes sir.

1511
01:08:03,300 --> 01:08:05,700
And one of the things that I know,

1512
01:08:05,700 --> 01:08:09,060
like with what we do, infrastructure is the key.

1513
01:08:09,060 --> 01:08:12,860
So when you guys are doing a new construction design,

1514
01:08:12,860 --> 01:08:17,540
the placement of the vents and the duct work is,

1515
01:08:17,540 --> 01:08:20,420
well, it's not just willy-nilly, right?

1516
01:08:20,420 --> 01:08:23,220
There's a reason for where it has got to be.

1517
01:08:23,220 --> 01:08:24,100
Absolutely.

1518
01:08:24,100 --> 01:08:28,820
And if you move that, it's going to change the efficiency

1519
01:08:28,820 --> 01:08:30,900
and the viability of that system,

1520
01:08:30,900 --> 01:08:33,740
which in this particular home is exactly what happened.

1521
01:08:34,780 --> 01:08:39,260
So you've been doing this a long time and I know that.

1522
01:08:40,660 --> 01:08:43,500
What are some of the things that obviously

1523
01:08:43,500 --> 01:08:46,780
that we deal with in that design concept?

1524
01:08:48,020 --> 01:08:52,060
Well, on a custom home, you always want the wife there.

1525
01:08:52,060 --> 01:08:55,700
And you're going to tell them where the vents need to go.

1526
01:08:55,700 --> 01:08:59,180
You're going to have it laid out to where they need to go.

1527
01:08:59,180 --> 01:09:03,860
And then you may have to move something to make her happy.

1528
01:09:03,860 --> 01:09:08,340
But we kind of really try not do that

1529
01:09:08,340 --> 01:09:10,740
if it's going to hurt the system.

1530
01:09:10,740 --> 01:09:13,420
And not cool room properly.

1531
01:09:13,420 --> 01:09:15,260
Like we put them under the windows.

1532
01:09:16,300 --> 01:09:20,380
That's where your heat and cold come through, it's to radiate.

1533
01:09:20,380 --> 01:09:24,780
And if it comes down to something simple like,

1534
01:09:24,780 --> 01:09:26,980
well, I'm putting a bookshelf right there

1535
01:09:26,980 --> 01:09:30,860
or mama's old clock radio is going right here,

1536
01:09:30,860 --> 01:09:32,780
we'll move it over a little bit.

1537
01:09:32,780 --> 01:09:33,740
That's fine.

1538
01:09:33,740 --> 01:09:35,660
But if you don't do stuff like that,

1539
01:09:35,660 --> 01:09:39,140
you're going to come back and be growing holes back in that floor,

1540
01:09:39,140 --> 01:09:41,060
fixing them and moving the vents

1541
01:09:41,060 --> 01:09:43,300
so that they can have what they want.

1542
01:09:43,300 --> 01:09:48,060
Yeah, there is a reason for the placement of these items.

1543
01:09:48,060 --> 01:09:51,740
And again, I mean, much like yourself,

1544
01:09:51,740 --> 01:09:55,980
I've been involved with new construction for a long time.

1545
01:09:55,980 --> 01:09:59,700
I'm on 28 years of new construction.

1546
01:09:59,700 --> 01:10:02,540
I figured that out the other day and I'm like, really?

1547
01:10:03,780 --> 01:10:08,780
And one of the things that as we speak with our customers

1548
01:10:10,220 --> 01:10:15,220
on all levels is, okay, I understand your concern,

1549
01:10:15,220 --> 01:10:18,220
but you need to understand the consequence.

1550
01:10:18,220 --> 01:10:19,540
That's exactly right.

1551
01:10:19,540 --> 01:10:23,020
And unfortunately, and I know you've seen it

1552
01:10:23,020 --> 01:10:25,940
as well as we have, especially in new construction,

1553
01:10:25,940 --> 01:10:29,020
budgets get in there and they interfere

1554
01:10:29,020 --> 01:10:32,620
with the ideal situation.

1555
01:10:32,620 --> 01:10:37,620
And I'm sure you've probably been faced with a time or two

1556
01:10:37,620 --> 01:10:41,260
that you've quoted out and designed this job

1557
01:10:41,260 --> 01:10:45,340
and somebody's probably come back and says, well,

1558
01:10:45,340 --> 01:10:49,020
can we just, what if we just downsize that unit a little bit?

1559
01:10:49,020 --> 01:10:50,140
Can we save some money here?

1560
01:10:50,140 --> 01:10:51,620
Can we save some money there?

1561
01:10:52,900 --> 01:10:55,940
Downsizing, you know, we were on custom homes,

1562
01:10:55,940 --> 01:10:57,980
we run a load calculation

1563
01:10:57,980 --> 01:11:01,300
and usually it's upsized a half a ton.

1564
01:11:01,300 --> 01:11:04,500
I do that by design.

1565
01:11:04,500 --> 01:11:06,980
I don't like phone calls in the middle of summertime saying,

1566
01:11:06,980 --> 01:11:08,100
how am I air conditioner?

1567
01:11:08,100 --> 01:11:10,140
Just not enough, you know,

1568
01:11:10,140 --> 01:11:13,940
and around here it gets 95 and 98 degrees

1569
01:11:13,940 --> 01:11:16,300
and you know, an air conditioner is only supposed

1570
01:11:16,300 --> 01:11:19,940
to bring the house to 20 degrees from the outside temperature.

1571
01:11:19,940 --> 01:11:23,020
You know, if it's 95, 75 is what you should get.

1572
01:11:23,020 --> 01:11:25,500
Well, we put them in there and a lot of times

1573
01:11:25,500 --> 01:11:28,340
they'll get colder than that on that 95 degree day.

1574
01:11:28,340 --> 01:11:29,180
Sure.

1575
01:11:29,180 --> 01:11:32,700
But like I say, that's the worst phone call you can get

1576
01:11:32,700 --> 01:11:35,060
is my air conditioner's not working.

1577
01:11:35,060 --> 01:11:36,980
Yeah, I mean, it really is.

1578
01:11:36,980 --> 01:11:41,980
And you know, as things have changed, right?

1579
01:11:43,300 --> 01:11:45,060
Things have improved.

1580
01:11:45,060 --> 01:11:48,980
It used to be, it was a stretch to get that 20 degree spread.

1581
01:11:48,980 --> 01:11:49,820
You got it.

1582
01:11:49,820 --> 01:11:54,060
Nowadays, you can actually get there, you know,

1583
01:11:54,060 --> 01:11:56,660
especially when we started looking at new construction

1584
01:11:56,660 --> 01:11:59,620
with all the efficiencies between the installations,

1585
01:11:59,620 --> 01:12:02,540
the windows, the materials, the homes are built with.

1586
01:12:02,540 --> 01:12:05,340
Those are all items that really come into play

1587
01:12:05,340 --> 01:12:10,020
and well, make you guys be like a shining hero, don't we?

1588
01:12:10,020 --> 01:12:14,300
Well, the foamed houses are coming really popular now.

1589
01:12:14,300 --> 01:12:16,980
They do the foam installation, foam decks.

1590
01:12:16,980 --> 01:12:20,020
And I tell you, those houses are like coolers.

1591
01:12:20,020 --> 01:12:21,260
They're almost too tight.

1592
01:12:22,740 --> 01:12:24,020
They work.

1593
01:12:24,020 --> 01:12:27,100
We have to put fresh air, Honeywell 8150,

1594
01:12:27,100 --> 01:12:30,020
that puts fresh air into the return system

1595
01:12:30,020 --> 01:12:32,260
and it gives you some fresh air from outside.

1596
01:12:32,260 --> 01:12:37,260
So if you don't do that, you know,

1597
01:12:37,260 --> 01:12:39,580
you can have too much moisture.

1598
01:12:39,580 --> 01:12:41,900
And I mean, you gotta get rid of some of that moisture

1599
01:12:41,900 --> 01:12:44,540
somehow, that's what an air conditioner does.

1600
01:12:44,540 --> 01:12:45,940
Yeah, it removes moisture.

1601
01:12:45,940 --> 01:12:47,060
It removes moisture.

1602
01:12:47,060 --> 01:12:50,540
Yeah, yeah, that's number one rule

1603
01:12:50,540 --> 01:12:52,540
that I learned from my father.

1604
01:12:53,420 --> 01:12:55,420
It's not designed to cool.

1605
01:12:55,420 --> 01:12:59,420
It's not designed to do, it is to remove, right?

1606
01:12:59,420 --> 01:13:00,780
It's to remove that moisture

1607
01:13:00,780 --> 01:13:04,580
because that's when you feel cooler.

1608
01:13:04,580 --> 01:13:05,420
That's exactly right.

1609
01:13:05,420 --> 01:13:06,500
When that moisture's removed.

1610
01:13:06,500 --> 01:13:08,420
When you get that moisture out of the air,

1611
01:13:08,420 --> 01:13:11,180
you can cool the air down easy.

1612
01:13:11,180 --> 01:13:13,060
Yeah, yep.

1613
01:13:13,060 --> 01:13:15,180
Yeah, if you're, I mean, just thinking about it,

1614
01:13:15,180 --> 01:13:20,180
it's 95 degrees and 159,000% humidity outside

1615
01:13:20,300 --> 01:13:22,740
and you can douse yourself or whatever you want

1616
01:13:22,740 --> 01:13:24,740
and it is still hot.

1617
01:13:24,740 --> 01:13:27,460
I lived in Guam for three years.

1618
01:13:27,460 --> 01:13:30,220
And I'll tell you, it was never above 90

1619
01:13:30,220 --> 01:13:35,060
and never below 70 and 95 to 100% humidity all the time.

1620
01:13:35,060 --> 01:13:38,180
You could get a shower, walk to the mailbox, come back.

1621
01:13:38,180 --> 01:13:39,540
You'd need another shower.

1622
01:13:41,060 --> 01:13:43,060
Well, I guess at that point,

1623
01:13:43,060 --> 01:13:45,860
you just don't need to shower anymore, right?

1624
01:13:45,860 --> 01:13:46,900
Come on now.

1625
01:13:46,900 --> 01:13:51,900
So, again, design is the key, right?

1626
01:13:52,300 --> 01:13:56,100
Just like what we do, the end result

1627
01:13:56,100 --> 01:13:58,380
in the longevity of that system

1628
01:13:58,380 --> 01:14:00,780
is only gonna be as good as the infrastructure

1629
01:14:00,780 --> 01:14:02,180
that it is built upon.

1630
01:14:02,180 --> 01:14:05,340
And I know, again, that design work that you guys do

1631
01:14:05,340 --> 01:14:08,260
is you focus on making sure

1632
01:14:08,260 --> 01:14:10,140
that that infrastructure is right.

1633
01:14:10,140 --> 01:14:12,980
And so for the longevity of the home.

1634
01:14:12,980 --> 01:14:15,180
And so with that being said, obviously,

1635
01:14:16,340 --> 01:14:18,700
what about warranties on units

1636
01:14:18,700 --> 01:14:20,740
and obviously your workmanship?

1637
01:14:21,820 --> 01:14:24,340
Well, warranties are pretty much across the board

1638
01:14:24,340 --> 01:14:27,980
on equipment as they'll come as a manufacturer

1639
01:14:27,980 --> 01:14:29,220
five year.

1640
01:14:29,220 --> 01:14:30,540
If you register them,

1641
01:14:30,540 --> 01:14:33,820
which we help people everyday register their units,

1642
01:14:34,860 --> 01:14:37,540
you get a 10 year all parts warranty.

1643
01:14:37,540 --> 01:14:40,780
That's from in the unit.

1644
01:14:40,780 --> 01:14:42,660
The workmanship on new construction,

1645
01:14:42,660 --> 01:14:44,980
we warrant it for one year.

1646
01:14:44,980 --> 01:14:48,660
We have longer warranties available

1647
01:14:48,660 --> 01:14:53,020
that we don't sell out of our pocket, we buy them.

1648
01:14:53,020 --> 01:14:56,140
JB warranties is a real good warranty to have.

1649
01:14:56,140 --> 01:14:58,380
I mean, and they're very inexpensive and you drop

1650
01:14:58,380 --> 01:15:02,020
a compressor after the first year,

1651
01:15:02,020 --> 01:15:03,460
you'll be glad you got it.

1652
01:15:04,420 --> 01:15:07,660
It's expensive to change.

1653
01:15:07,660 --> 01:15:09,020
Yeah, I mean, if a compressor goes out,

1654
01:15:09,020 --> 01:15:11,260
you are, well, you got it.

1655
01:15:11,260 --> 01:15:13,340
You got to drain, evac,

1656
01:15:13,340 --> 01:15:16,540
you got to evaporate that system out,

1657
01:15:16,540 --> 01:15:17,380
clean it out.

1658
01:15:17,380 --> 01:15:20,220
Recovery, usually on,

1659
01:15:20,220 --> 01:15:22,980
I don't ever put the same refrigerator back in a compressor.

1660
01:15:22,980 --> 01:15:23,820
Right.

1661
01:15:23,820 --> 01:15:26,380
And that's not covered under warranty.

1662
01:15:26,380 --> 01:15:27,220
Right.

1663
01:15:27,220 --> 01:15:29,380
Because usually it's a burnout

1664
01:15:29,380 --> 01:15:31,140
and you just don't want to use it.

1665
01:15:31,140 --> 01:15:31,980
Yeah.

1666
01:15:31,980 --> 01:15:34,980
So it's kind of expensive.

1667
01:15:34,980 --> 01:15:36,980
The warranty, the compressor is covered

1668
01:15:36,980 --> 01:15:38,380
with the labor and the refrigerant

1669
01:15:38,380 --> 01:15:40,460
and that such is not.

1670
01:15:40,460 --> 01:15:42,300
Yes, expensive stuff's not.

1671
01:15:42,300 --> 01:15:44,020
Yeah.

1672
01:15:44,020 --> 01:15:48,340
Well, and when these reclaim machines came out,

1673
01:15:48,340 --> 01:15:52,140
I mean, they do a great job of recycling that refrigerant,

1674
01:15:52,140 --> 01:15:55,740
pulling out the disparities that are in there,

1675
01:15:55,740 --> 01:15:58,660
the particles, but I'm with you.

1676
01:15:58,660 --> 01:16:01,980
One of my big things, even when I was in automotive world,

1677
01:16:01,980 --> 01:16:04,340
is if we had a catastrophic failure,

1678
01:16:05,820 --> 01:16:07,500
we've got to change anything

1679
01:16:07,500 --> 01:16:09,580
that's holding particles, period.

1680
01:16:09,580 --> 01:16:11,700
If it holds a particle, it needs to go.

1681
01:16:11,700 --> 01:16:13,820
Because if not, you're never going to get it out.

1682
01:16:13,820 --> 01:16:16,580
And all you're doing is rebuilding upon

1683
01:16:16,580 --> 01:16:21,580
an insufficient system to start with.

1684
01:16:22,460 --> 01:16:27,460
So, and I know that, I mean, let's face it,

1685
01:16:28,580 --> 01:16:32,140
the industry says it's okay to do some things,

1686
01:16:32,140 --> 01:16:33,820
but our experience tells us

1687
01:16:33,820 --> 01:16:35,500
there's better ways to do them sometimes.

1688
01:16:35,500 --> 01:16:36,340
Absolutely.

1689
01:16:36,340 --> 01:16:37,260
Absolutely.

1690
01:16:37,260 --> 01:16:39,580
And that's where having a company like you

1691
01:16:39,580 --> 01:16:44,580
is so important in the longevity of our systems.

1692
01:16:44,580 --> 01:16:48,420
So we are going to take a short break,

1693
01:16:48,420 --> 01:16:50,220
and well, we're going to come back

1694
01:16:50,220 --> 01:16:53,020
and we're going to finish speaking with Big Jim,

1695
01:16:53,020 --> 01:16:56,060
and we're going to talk about some new stuff in HVAC

1696
01:16:56,060 --> 01:17:01,060
besides refrigerant, and well, we'll learn about,

1697
01:17:01,580 --> 01:17:03,940
we'll learn about special things about Big Jim

1698
01:17:03,940 --> 01:17:05,620
that he's not even aware of yet.

1699
01:17:05,620 --> 01:17:06,620
How's that?

1700
01:17:06,620 --> 01:17:09,020
We'll be right back here on Around the House

1701
01:17:09,020 --> 01:17:11,460
on Newstalk 97WOKI.

1702
01:17:11,460 --> 01:17:15,220
And that sounds good.

1703
01:17:15,220 --> 01:17:18,300
Well, we're back to Around the House.

1704
01:17:18,300 --> 01:17:23,300
Man, we are, this is it, final segment of today's show.

1705
01:17:24,940 --> 01:17:26,660
Hopefully you're listening this morning

1706
01:17:26,660 --> 01:17:29,340
and you're getting your orange and white on

1707
01:17:29,340 --> 01:17:32,580
and you're getting ready to head down to Neyland Stadium.

1708
01:17:32,580 --> 01:17:35,500
Come check out his security and technology tent.

1709
01:17:35,500 --> 01:17:37,780
We'll be at Vaughn Village today.

1710
01:17:37,780 --> 01:17:39,700
Pretty excited about that first trip ever.

1711
01:17:39,700 --> 01:17:42,740
So to be able to participate,

1712
01:17:42,740 --> 01:17:45,740
I've been there many times, but anyway,

1713
01:17:45,740 --> 01:17:48,100
I am speaking with Big Jim Michaels.

1714
01:17:48,100 --> 01:17:51,060
If you know Jim, well, his nickname serves him well.

1715
01:17:52,180 --> 01:17:57,180
He is, quite frankly, well, what to say?

1716
01:17:58,060 --> 01:18:01,500
I know that you're a grandpa to a lot of little ones,

1717
01:18:01,500 --> 01:18:04,220
and some of them might just say

1718
01:18:04,220 --> 01:18:06,500
you're a great big old cuddly teddy bear.

1719
01:18:06,500 --> 01:18:07,700
I've got seven.

1720
01:18:07,700 --> 01:18:09,020
Just saying.

1721
01:18:09,020 --> 01:18:12,660
So, all right, Jim, tell us a little bit more

1722
01:18:12,660 --> 01:18:16,900
about HCS Mechanical and what else other than refrigerant,

1723
01:18:16,900 --> 01:18:20,100
what's new coming down the pipe in the HVAC world?

1724
01:18:21,060 --> 01:18:23,500
Just new design and equipment.

1725
01:18:25,180 --> 01:18:27,700
Over the last few years, it's changed

1726
01:18:27,700 --> 01:18:30,300
when they upgraded the efficiency.

1727
01:18:30,300 --> 01:18:32,660
They made the units larger.

1728
01:18:32,660 --> 01:18:35,540
I mean, goodness gracious, you have to really

1729
01:18:35,540 --> 01:18:40,540
take some time to put a new three-ton

1730
01:18:41,500 --> 01:18:45,060
where a old three-ton went, you know, indoor.

1731
01:18:45,060 --> 01:18:48,020
They're just bigger, just plain old bigger.

1732
01:18:48,020 --> 01:18:50,220
And what they do, they use a larger coil in them

1733
01:18:50,220 --> 01:18:52,860
to make them more efficient, basically.

1734
01:18:53,740 --> 01:18:58,420
But that's the big thing, just making them fit.

1735
01:18:58,420 --> 01:19:01,260
Yeah, well, man, I can't even imagine

1736
01:19:01,260 --> 01:19:05,300
some of these indoor units trying to put

1737
01:19:05,300 --> 01:19:07,020
a new one in where the old one was.

1738
01:19:07,020 --> 01:19:07,860
Yes.

1739
01:19:09,220 --> 01:19:11,740
I mean, what do you do when they don't fit?

1740
01:19:11,740 --> 01:19:12,580
What do you do?

1741
01:19:13,580 --> 01:19:14,860
You just got to partner with somebody

1742
01:19:14,860 --> 01:19:16,180
who can come in and get it done?

1743
01:19:16,180 --> 01:19:19,580
No, you get back with the manufacturers

1744
01:19:19,580 --> 01:19:24,500
and sometimes you even have to change the equipment to,

1745
01:19:26,020 --> 01:19:27,980
they have smaller units.

1746
01:19:27,980 --> 01:19:30,700
Some manufacturers, they haven't changed it.

1747
01:19:30,700 --> 01:19:32,820
The ones that we use mostly have.

1748
01:19:32,820 --> 01:19:33,660
Right.

1749
01:19:33,660 --> 01:19:36,500
And you just have to find something that'll fit.

1750
01:19:37,420 --> 01:19:39,820
I mean, you got to do the job, I mean,

1751
01:19:39,820 --> 01:19:42,220
without tearing out a closet and having to sheet rocket

1752
01:19:42,220 --> 01:19:45,260
and put new doors and stuff like that on it.

1753
01:19:46,220 --> 01:19:49,020
That, I mean, you definitely, you got to do the job.

1754
01:19:49,020 --> 01:19:50,340
Well, it's good to know though, right,

1755
01:19:50,340 --> 01:19:54,620
that at least the manufacturers, you have options

1756
01:19:54,620 --> 01:19:58,540
to be able to change the physical dimensions of the unit

1757
01:19:58,540 --> 01:20:01,220
without sacrificing or changing

1758
01:20:01,220 --> 01:20:03,740
the actual working dimensions

1759
01:20:03,740 --> 01:20:05,500
and configurations of those units.

1760
01:20:05,500 --> 01:20:07,820
So I know I've always wondered that

1761
01:20:07,820 --> 01:20:11,340
because I mean, I've seen some handler stuff in closets

1762
01:20:11,340 --> 01:20:13,660
and I'm like, man, when this thing's got to be changed,

1763
01:20:13,660 --> 01:20:16,180
y'all, this is going to be tough.

1764
01:20:16,180 --> 01:20:18,180
It is tough.

1765
01:20:18,180 --> 01:20:19,900
It is tough.

1766
01:20:19,900 --> 01:20:23,020
Gavin, my son-in-law, he is my general manager

1767
01:20:23,020 --> 01:20:25,060
and he has gotten so good.

1768
01:20:26,420 --> 01:20:28,460
He's been with me six years

1769
01:20:28,460 --> 01:20:32,180
and I didn't have any other of my children

1770
01:20:32,180 --> 01:20:34,460
that had any interest in the business.

1771
01:20:34,460 --> 01:20:38,780
He stepped in and came in and basically runs it now for me.

1772
01:20:39,660 --> 01:20:43,660
Well, he is quite a guy.

1773
01:20:43,660 --> 01:20:47,100
He does have that drill sergeant effect about him,

1774
01:20:47,100 --> 01:20:47,940
doesn't he?

1775
01:20:47,940 --> 01:20:49,340
Yes, yes.

1776
01:20:50,900 --> 01:20:52,780
All right, Big Jim, so tell us,

1777
01:20:54,340 --> 01:20:55,580
why should people buy from you?

1778
01:20:55,580 --> 01:20:57,180
I know why they should buy from you,

1779
01:20:57,180 --> 01:21:00,060
but in your own words, what makes y'all different?

1780
01:21:00,060 --> 01:21:01,860
Why should people buy from you?

1781
01:21:01,860 --> 01:21:04,140
Well, we're not a corporate entity.

1782
01:21:04,140 --> 01:21:05,260
We're a family entity.

1783
01:21:05,260 --> 01:21:07,540
I've got my daughter that runs the office,

1784
01:21:07,540 --> 01:21:09,660
son-in-law that's general manager.

1785
01:21:11,820 --> 01:21:15,060
We have got Matthew, he runs our service department,

1786
01:21:15,060 --> 01:21:19,980
Matthew Lee, and we answer the phone.

1787
01:21:19,980 --> 01:21:23,740
If you call, after hours even,

1788
01:21:23,740 --> 01:21:27,420
it rings to me at my house on my cell phone

1789
01:21:27,420 --> 01:21:30,540
and I take calls from people when they have their air out

1790
01:21:30,540 --> 01:21:34,100
or their heat out or whatever question they have,

1791
01:21:34,100 --> 01:21:37,220
you answer the phone and rather than leave a message

1792
01:21:37,220 --> 01:21:39,500
and hope somebody calls you back.

1793
01:21:39,500 --> 01:21:40,700
That's our big thing.

1794
01:21:40,700 --> 01:21:44,460
I just make sure that communication is the best.

1795
01:21:44,460 --> 01:21:47,580
Yeah, and it's key.

1796
01:21:47,580 --> 01:21:49,580
I mean, we, as well as you,

1797
01:21:49,580 --> 01:21:53,460
I mean, obviously it's just 24-7, things happen.

1798
01:21:53,460 --> 01:21:58,460
And it's essential to make sure

1799
01:22:00,460 --> 01:22:02,300
that somebody's able to answer that call.

1800
01:22:02,300 --> 01:22:07,020
And quite frankly, when the emergency happens

1801
01:22:07,020 --> 01:22:09,140
and the time of need arises,

1802
01:22:09,140 --> 01:22:12,180
a lot of times the person who's dealing with that emergency

1803
01:22:12,180 --> 01:22:16,220
or that situation just need to have somebody

1804
01:22:16,220 --> 01:22:18,500
on the other end of the phone to talk to them

1805
01:22:18,500 --> 01:22:22,500
and assure them that it's gonna be okay.

1806
01:22:22,500 --> 01:22:23,900
It's gonna get taken care of.

1807
01:22:23,900 --> 01:22:25,940
It's gonna be okay.

1808
01:22:25,940 --> 01:22:27,460
Talking about Matthew,

1809
01:22:27,460 --> 01:22:30,500
I send him stuff in the evenings all the time.

1810
01:22:30,500 --> 01:22:33,420
I tell people I need their name, address,

1811
01:22:33,420 --> 01:22:34,620
and their phone number.

1812
01:22:34,620 --> 01:22:37,140
I put it on a text, I send it to Matthew.

1813
01:22:37,140 --> 01:22:39,340
He will call them the next morning

1814
01:22:39,340 --> 01:22:42,340
and get out there usually the same day.

1815
01:22:43,340 --> 01:22:44,180
Wow.

1816
01:22:44,180 --> 01:22:45,340
Yeah.

1817
01:22:45,340 --> 01:22:47,580
Especially nowadays, it's pretty phenomenal.

1818
01:22:49,940 --> 01:22:51,100
You all still hiring?

1819
01:22:51,100 --> 01:22:54,980
Always looking for good people, always.

1820
01:22:54,980 --> 01:22:56,100
Well, there you have it.

1821
01:22:56,100 --> 01:22:58,020
If you're a HVAC guy,

1822
01:22:58,020 --> 01:23:01,700
and well, if your boss's name's not Jim Michaels

1823
01:23:01,700 --> 01:23:04,940
or Gavin Foster, here you go, right?

1824
01:23:04,940 --> 01:23:05,900
Here's your opportunity.

1825
01:23:05,900 --> 01:23:06,740
Absolutely.

1826
01:23:06,740 --> 01:23:11,740
You can reach HCS Mechanical at 865-567-1193.

1827
01:23:13,180 --> 01:23:18,180
Or you can call our office number at 865-777-0555.

1828
01:23:19,940 --> 01:23:20,860
There you go.

1829
01:23:20,860 --> 01:23:21,740
There you go, right?

1830
01:23:21,740 --> 01:23:26,180
Look them up online, hcsmechanicalcontractors.com.

1831
01:23:26,180 --> 01:23:29,340
Right there, available for you at your fingertips.

1832
01:23:29,340 --> 01:23:31,860
Come see us at the Parade of Homes.

1833
01:23:31,860 --> 01:23:34,300
North Shore Town Center, Mike Stevens.

1834
01:23:34,300 --> 01:23:39,300
Have two today through the thing and through the whole parade.

1835
01:23:39,860 --> 01:23:40,700
Yeah.

1836
01:23:40,700 --> 01:23:41,540
And we got one in Tennessee National.

1837
01:23:41,540 --> 01:23:42,700
One in Tennessee National, yeah.

1838
01:23:42,700 --> 01:23:43,540
Yeah.

1839
01:23:43,540 --> 01:23:48,020
Yeah, we're in a few parade homes this year.

1840
01:23:48,020 --> 01:23:51,540
So we always, it's important to us

1841
01:23:51,540 --> 01:23:55,660
to be able to support our Home Builders Association.

1842
01:23:55,660 --> 01:23:58,220
They do so much for our industry

1843
01:23:58,220 --> 01:24:01,340
and all related industries that trades that touch,

1844
01:24:01,340 --> 01:24:03,660
anything has to do with construction.

1845
01:24:03,660 --> 01:24:05,980
It's very important to be able to support them.

1846
01:24:05,980 --> 01:24:10,980
So I alluded, I was being silly before the break

1847
01:24:11,060 --> 01:24:14,060
that we were gonna talk about things about Big Jim.

1848
01:24:14,060 --> 01:24:18,820
And one of the things that I come to learn about you

1849
01:24:18,820 --> 01:24:23,500
is that you have a, you're a softball family.

1850
01:24:23,500 --> 01:24:24,340
Oh, I know.

1851
01:24:24,340 --> 01:24:29,340
And the name Big Jim, when we go, when I go to CBFO,

1852
01:24:31,260 --> 01:24:32,820
people know Big Jim.

1853
01:24:32,820 --> 01:24:37,620
And your daughter, your daughters,

1854
01:24:37,620 --> 01:24:41,300
but in fact, your granddaughter was,

1855
01:24:41,300 --> 01:24:45,620
I had the pleasure to coach and then in Gavin,

1856
01:24:45,620 --> 01:24:48,140
your general manager was kind enough

1857
01:24:48,140 --> 01:24:51,460
to help be an assistant coach as well.

1858
01:24:51,460 --> 01:24:52,820
And I'm just gonna tell you,

1859
01:24:52,820 --> 01:24:55,580
and these are the things, right, about local businesses

1860
01:24:55,580 --> 01:24:59,420
is these are the hidden things that people don't know

1861
01:24:59,420 --> 01:25:03,700
that we are a part of in our communities.

1862
01:25:03,700 --> 01:25:05,740
And when we say support local business,

1863
01:25:05,740 --> 01:25:09,860
it's because you're supporting your kids' softball coach,

1864
01:25:09,860 --> 01:25:11,740
your kids' baseball coach,

1865
01:25:11,740 --> 01:25:16,740
your Sunday school teacher or whatever it may be.

1866
01:25:16,820 --> 01:25:18,820
So that's what we talk about

1867
01:25:18,820 --> 01:25:21,540
when we talk about supporting local business

1868
01:25:21,540 --> 01:25:24,700
because we are, well, we're right here ingrained

1869
01:25:24,700 --> 01:25:26,620
in the community just as you are.

1870
01:25:26,620 --> 01:25:28,940
So Big Jim, thank you for joining us this morning.

1871
01:25:28,940 --> 01:25:30,780
It's always a pleasure to have you around.

1872
01:25:30,780 --> 01:25:31,620
Thank you.

1873
01:25:31,620 --> 01:25:33,260
It's a pleasure to be here.

1874
01:25:33,260 --> 01:25:35,260
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1875
01:25:35,260 --> 01:25:37,620
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1876
01:25:37,620 --> 01:25:41,180
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1877
01:25:41,180 --> 01:25:44,940
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1878
01:25:44,940 --> 01:25:47,700
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1879
01:25:47,700 --> 01:25:49,900
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1880
01:25:49,900 --> 01:25:53,340
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1881
01:25:53,340 --> 01:25:55,860
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1882
01:25:55,860 --> 01:25:59,180
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1883
01:25:59,180 --> 01:26:01,100
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1884
01:26:01,100 --> 01:26:02,740
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1885
01:26:02,740 --> 01:26:04,540
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1886
01:26:04,540 --> 01:26:05,900
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1887
01:26:05,900 --> 01:26:07,780
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