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Hey, good morning.

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Good morning.

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Welcome to around the house.

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I am Scott Brockamp.

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Your guest who your host for this morning.

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I hope you all are enjoying this beautiful day.

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It was a nice and pleasant outside this morning.

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Beautiful morning just to well have that little short jacket on and nice cup of coffee and

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enjoy some beautiful weather.

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It's a, I'm sure I don't have to tell you if you're listening this morning, it is the

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third Saturday in October and well, let's face it, man, it's going to be a great day.

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It's just going to be a great day.

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There we go.

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Get it, baby.

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Fight song time.

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I mean, we can just, I hope we listen to the rocket.

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We'll be hearing that Blair and all, all day.

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That's what I'm hoping for.

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All right.

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Well, hopefully nobody's getting married today.

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It's never a good day to play in your wedding because it's the third Saturday in October

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and we're going to beat Bama for two years in a row.

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Let's go baby.

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All right.

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At any rate, the tide looked, uh, well they looked pretty beatable against Arkansas last

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week.

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So the game today is in Tuscaloosa kickoff is at three 30.

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You can catch the game on our sister station, WIVK, the flagship station of the vault network.

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Greek Fest is this weekend.

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The annual festival at St. George Greek Orthodox church is in its 47th year.

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Hours are today from 11 a.m. to 10 p.m.

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The Penta, one of the, one of Christopher Columbus's ships docked at Calhoun's on the

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river yesterday.

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You can tour the historic replica now through October 29th.

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No reservations are necessary.

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Just buy your ticket to board this floating museum at the dock to find a complete list

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of events happening around your house today.

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Go to visit Knoxville.com that's visit Knoxville.com.

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Well, I, this is going to be really hard to talk about anything other than the third Saturday

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in October, but we're going to give it a shot here this morning.

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You know, I'm just, I'm loving these cool mornings though.

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They just, they're, they're nice.

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They're comfortable, little less humidity.

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The only thing that bothers me is I know that there's winter coming behind it, but fall

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weather is, is come and it may have you thinking about lighting a fire.

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Well, before you get that kindling together, when was the last time you had your chimney

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inspected or cleaned chimney fires account for nearly $125 million in property damage

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each year in the United States here to tell us how to prevent that from happening at your

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house is Jonah Lindley.

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He's a certified chimney sweep and repair technician with ash busters here in Knoxville.

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Good morning, Jonah.

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How are you?

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I'm good, man.

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Thanks for having me on the show.

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Good morning.

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Absolutely.

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So, uh, you know, we, we've had some time to chit chat here this morning, which has

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been really kind of awesome.

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Uh, normally I'm running, you know, kind of last minute, so, uh, it's good to have been

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here and have a little time to chit chat, but tell us a little bit Jonah, who is ash

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busters and in, well, I mean, you're a chimney sweep, but to a lot of people, we may not

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know what that means.

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What is that?

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Uh, so chimney sweeps are often thought about as the guys and Mary Poppins dancing around

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on a rooftop and getting dirty.

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Uh, that's, that's a lot of what we do though.

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Um, we like to have fun and we do definitely get dirty.

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Um, we try to keep your house cleaner than, than what we found it though, as one of the

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main parts of our service.

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But ash busters is a 35 plus year old business.

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We started in Nashville, Tennessee, our, our owner Mark did, and, um, he started the business

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just cleaning chimneys.

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And that's all it was back then in the eighties is just sweep rods going up the flu and making

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sure everything was cleaned out every year.

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And then he started getting more involved in the industry and education.

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And he started to learn more things about how the system works and what can go wrong

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and how it goes wrong.

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And so as he started to get educated, he learned more about the repair side and realized that's

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kind of where more of the money is in the business.

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So we naturally grew to more of a construction company.

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We just focus on chimneys.

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And that initial cleaning and inspection is how we, how we get in the door.

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Well, and I can imagine, I mean, you know, being a technology guy as I am, I can imagine

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technology has come to play a huge part in what you guys do nowadays.

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So for sure.

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I'm, I'm sure that we are, uh, well, I'm sure we'll get to some of that.

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So, uh, well, I'm glad that you're here, man.

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You know, it's that time of year, obviously, um, we, we mentioned we've grew up in, in

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the same state and we always had fires.

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Uh, unfortunately, I don't ever remember having a chimney sweep.

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I knew of them, right.

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Uh, and I think I'm probably not uncommon.

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I think that you probably run into a lot of folks who I'm going to assume have you there

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because there is a problem and not because they're trying to be preventative.

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Every day.

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I would say, especially in the South, you know, a fireplace is kind of a luxury.

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It, you know, it doesn't truly get super, super cold to where any, most people down

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here aren't relying on the fireplace or the wood stove to heat their home.

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We do still have some people in the community that, that are relying on it, especially last

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year, you know, we had those rolling blackouts.

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So having that fireplace cranking up was, was a necessity for some, unfortunately.

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I wish I would have had one, I'll tell you that much.

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But for most people, it's a comfort thing.

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It's a luxury.

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It's this third Saturday in October, you know, getting ready to watch the game and you want

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to be cozy and you got your meat on the grill outside, but you come inside, you got fireplace

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rolling and you're ready to have a good time.

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Watch, watch Vols win.

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That's right.

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That's right.

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Well, it, you know, and we have, uh, and again, I, you know, we'll get, I'm sure we'll get

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into a lot of this stuff, but we have, we've got a lot of outdoor fireplaces, you know,

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which are, I don't know, I I'm assuming are kind of a more unique to climates like ours

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where we spend a lot more time living outdoors than up North where you're indoors.

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Um, so, but still, I mean, it's a fireplace.

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It still needs the same exact attention and care is the one that's inside your home, right?

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For sure.

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And you probably even a little more cause you probably use the one outside more than

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the one inside that.

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And it's, it's just like anything else.

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The thing that you're least concerned about tends to be sometimes the most risky thing

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around you.

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You know, uh, it's, if it's in the back of your mind, a lot of times you're not thinking

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about it.

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And then that could make it almost a little bit, a little bit sketchier.

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Um, a lot of outdoor fireplaces are just close enough to the house that if a spark lands

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on the roof next, you know, uh, something, something could go wrong.

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So well, there's no doubt about that.

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They're, you know, they're normally some way, shape or form, you know, there's some type

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of attachment normally with those.

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So, so let's talk about inspections.

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Because again, I mean, obviously that's, that's the main preventative, right?

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We need to have this thing inspection.

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What's what does a inspection look like?

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Um, on a client side and from your side.

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So we'll set you up for that initial inspection, uh, whether you've worked with us before or,

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or not, or has whether you've been using a different company or not.

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Uh, we treat everybody like a new customer.

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And so when we roll up to the house, um, first things first, we really want to understand

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why we're there.

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Sometimes we're there to just do that initial inspection, make sure everything is okay.

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Like you said, a lot of times we're there because somebody knows they got a problem.

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So, um, we're trying to set up every, every call a little bit the same and just understand

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why we're there first so we can best help the homeowner.

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And then almost every inspection is going to end up with a video camera going inside

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the system so that we can scan everything and, and just learn as much as we can about

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what you've got.

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And what's accessible.

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And so if we can access it, we're going to try and dig deep into it so that way we can

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educate you on, on what you've got.

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So you know how to best use it.

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And then number two, you know what to look out for.

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And if you do have a problem that way we can also address the issues and come up with a

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solution.

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about what you guys do is that you also provide the repair side of things as well.

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I know there are some that are just, they're just maintenance, you know, cleaning companies

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in the chimney sweep world.

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So what are some of the things that you're looking for when, when you're scoping out

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or going down that chimney with that camera?

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What are, what are some of the, give me like three main things that you're looking for.

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So when I look at a fireplace, a lot of times before I even set my eyes on it, if I can

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smell campfire, typically there's a drafting issue going on with the fireplace or maybe

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the wood that we're burning isn't the driest.

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So that's one thing right off the bat.

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If I can smell it from the door, there might be some, some other things going on.

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And then secondly, the, the fireplace system needs to be like a straw and just airtight.

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And so if I scan and see gaps, cracks, voids, pretty much anywhere, we'll have a conversation

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about why that's a, why that's a problem and, and what we can do to, to help fix it.

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And then most of the issues that we find on chimneys is actually outside with the, the

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masonry or even the siding or metal flashing with the roof or at the top of a chimney on

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the exterior of the home, as most times the most neglected part of that system.

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Well, yeah, I mean, nobody else wants to be crazy like you guys and roll up there and

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hang out on the top of the roof.

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Most, most people aren't getting on a roof and dancing around.

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So that's why, that's why we call us.

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But we look, I look being in this industry for a little over six years now, every house

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I go to, I'm, when I'm driving down the street, I'm looking at chimneys, driving downtown,

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I'm looking at the fireplace or I'm looking at the chimneys.

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So if you're driving down, down the street and you, you look up and you see your chimney,

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it's got black stains at the top or maybe a brick is missing or two.

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That's a good reason to give us a call and have us come out and take a look.

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There you go.

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Call the pros at Ash Busters.

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Hey, you can find them online at ashbustersnoxville.com or you can reach them by phone at 865-470-6177.

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Hey, if you've got questions for us, give us a call.

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Shoot us a text 865-656-8255.

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We are going to take a short break.

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We'll be right back here on Around the House with Scott Brokamp on Newstalk 98.7 WOKI.

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Welcome back to Around the House.

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I am your host, Scott Brokamp, co-owner and founder of his security and technology here

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in Knoxville, locally owned, operated, here to take care of all of your security technology

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needs.

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But the important part is my guest this morning.

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I have Mr. Jonah Lindley from Ash Busters in here in the house.

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And well, we were talking a little bit about technology.

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So when they come and make sure they are servicing your fireplace and chimney, one of the main

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things they're going to do is get eyes, get eyes on the inside.

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And I know that we kind of alluded to it early on, but technology is such a useful tool in

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just about every industry now.

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And so just, I mean, can you imagine your predecessors with not having video?

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I mean, no.

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Digging things apart.

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I mean, literally they're taking chimneys apart to find the issue, to rebuild it back

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together.

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Well, and even, you know, back in, in hundreds of years ago in Europe, they used to send

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little boys up, up the chimney to clean and inspect them.

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That's literally how they used to do it.

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And I'm glad my dad did HVAC and not chimneys because me too, brother, me too.

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I wouldn't want to be in that spot.

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That's a rough life.

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making them a little smaller now than they used to be.

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So, you know, I mean, we do a lot of new construction work and even when we're in the homes with

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natural wood burning fireplaces that I mean, the chimney and the flue for these things

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is nothing anymore.

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Right.

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You know, it used to be a big, massive brick and mortar and you know, now it's, it's a,

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a few layers of pipe coming up, you know?

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So how is, how has that affected what you guys do?

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How is it different when you get into looking at that cleaning service and inspection when

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you're looking at a old, I guess I'll call it a traditional or a, you know, kind of brick

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mortar type of, of chimney versus a new style.

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So we've actually got a joke in the industry that open fireplaces suck.

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And it's, it's a joke because, you know, we've got tools and stuff that are supposed to help,

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you know, suck up the soot that we clean out of the system.

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The whole point of the chimney and the flue is to suck the smoke out of the house.

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But a lot of times it's sucking money out of your wallet.

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That hot air that your HVAC system is, is producing for the house.

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That's getting sucked right up the fireplace too.

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Most of the heat that's coming off of that fire is getting sucked right out of the fireplace

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and out of the house.

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So there's really not much return when you are burning wood in an open masonry fireplace.

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That's part of the reason why we've changed as an industry and gone more towards inserts,

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gas, fireplaces.

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They're much more efficient.

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So every, every piece of wood that you're burning, you're getting much more out of it

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means less trips to the wood pile.

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It means less emissions in the air, which ultimately means less soot in the system.

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So it can be much safer to use as well.

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There you go.

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See?

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So, you know, you mentioned something there and I'm again, I'm sure many of our listeners

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thinking, Oh, I've got, I've got a gas insert.

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There's nothing I need to clean.

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I don't need anything inspected.

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Right.

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I'm going to just assume that that is way off base here.

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It is.

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Yeah.

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It, you know, every appliance that you buy in your house has this little booklet.

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It's typically white, black and white.

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There's a, there's typically a Spanish or a French side and an English side to it.

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It's called a manual or nowadays it may just be a QR code, but Hey, whatever.

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Either way, when we install a fireplace, a new construction, a lot of people will take

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that book and they'll save it to start their, their fires with later on.

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But if, if you look in them, it'll actually say that even on a gas fireplace, it needs

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an annual inspection and that's a national standard.

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Yeah.

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The reason why is if you're burning anything, there's going to be some kind of off gas or

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emission.

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Um, if it's combustible in the first place, that means that the emissions are combustible.

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So even on a gas fireplace, that soot, if it builds up enough, it can, it can ignite.

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It's not common, but it can.

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Sure.

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And then those little components that, that bring the pilot light on, uh, they need to

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be cleaned every year so that they continue to work properly.

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So what all, I mean, so are you, are you actually going to clean the, the, uh, I guess the,

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the exhaust on that gas unit as well?

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Is that a part of what you guys do through that?

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On the open gas logs?

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Absolutely.

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Yeah.

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If it's a direct vent, which has got the glass enclosure, which is really common on new construction

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now, there's hardly any emissions on those units because they're so efficient.

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So most of the time they don't need to be cleaned, which is great.

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They look pretty.

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Oh yeah.

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They don't do much for putting out heat, but they look pretty.

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If you, uh, if you upgrade from the builder, the builder grade models, you can get a lot

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of heat out of those glass enclosed gas fireplaces.

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I, uh, we've got, we have a client that they did that and they had a, and there was an

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additional blower put on and they had literally had a vent pipe to the middle of the room.

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And, and man, I'm going to tell you what that sucker put out some heat.

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Oh yeah.

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You gotta be careful.

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We, we caution people all the time because they think they want as much heat as they

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can get.

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And you're going to be looking at that flame on low.

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Yeah, they, uh, yeah, they can put out some heat.

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There's no doubt about it.

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So obviously real estate transactions, I'm sure you get a lot of calls, uh, simply because

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somebody is buying or selling a home and they want to have the, they want to have the fireplace

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in chimney inspected.

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What all, what all do you guys do in that type of service?

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I'm sure it's probably a little less intrusive than a typical.

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I wouldn't say less intrusive.

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Uh, most of the time we're coming in on the buyer side.

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So buyers looking at a house, most buyers, when they're looking at a house and they see

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a fireplace, you know, the wife especially will get googly eyes, uh, in, in most cases.

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And that fireplace turns an ordinary house into the house.

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And so they call us the real estate company typically does.

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And we've got relationships with some of the best in the area.

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And they say, Hey, we need you guys to come check out this fireplace and, and see what,

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what it's got going on.

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And we're like, okay, cool.

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So we go look at, look at it, um, and sometimes it's been in use, sometimes it's not.

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And we're just trying to give the, the potential buyer an idea of what's going on.

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Is it safe to use?

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Is there, are there some issues?

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And then they can potentially use the problems that we find as a little bit of a bargaining

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chip in that transaction.

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You know, Hey, if there's a couple repairs that need to be done, can we take this off

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the price or can we have that included in, in the contract?

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So right.

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Yeah.

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Get to get those repairs done and get everything taken care of for sure.

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But calling us before you buy is the most important part here because I can't tell you

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in the, in the 2020, 21 era where people were buying houses, sight unseen, 20, $50,000 over

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asking and that fireplace they're excited about.

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And then they move in, have us inspect it and we tell them they got problems.

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They're a little upset, you know, so definitely call us before you buy.

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So you know what you're getting.

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Yeah, that was a little bit of a common problem.

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You know, thankfully that, that's, that's starting to subside, you know, but so what

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are, what are some of the most common things that you see here in our area in the inspections

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that you find there are problems.

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Most of the time it's, it's issues with masonry chimneys that are due to water intrusion.

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So we get all this rain throughout the year, really in the summertime, the rain doesn't

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cause a whole lot of issues.

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A chimney is kind of like a sponge, a masonry one.

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So imagine a sponge under the kitchen sink and you've got that sink on full blast.

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Water's going to drip out of it pretty quickly.

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But if you change it down to just a drip and you drip water on that sponge, it's going

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to take maybe an hour for water to start coming out of the bottom on the light, the light

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rains, nothing's really going on on those heavy rains.

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Water might be dripping down.

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But in the winter time, when the water freezes, right, each brick can hold up to a cup and

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a half of water.

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That water freezes, it expands.

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And then you've got cracks that start to develop.

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And once you get one, it can turn into a bigger one because that cycle is happening every

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year.

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And in the South, that freezing and thawing over and over and over again can actually

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be worse than what people experience up North.

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Because up North, it stays cold for a month or two at a time.

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But it's that change, that freezing and then thawing that causes all the movement.

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And we get so much of that down here because it'll be 30, 25 degrees at night and then

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pop up the next day, it's 55.

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That's right.

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I was always told the great joke, right?

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It's winter in the morning, it's summer in the afternoon.

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That's right.

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And you're right, though.

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That can cause just additional problems.

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We think in our mind it is a good thing because if it froze, it would thaw out quickly.

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But that movement and that constant expansion and contraction is going to create some additional

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problems all in itself versus, like you said, up North where it freezes and stay frozen

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for a few months.

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Exactly.

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Even more so on a dormant fireplace chimney.

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One that's not being used is going to be way more susceptible to that exterior pressure

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because when you're using the fireplace, the inside of the system is being heated up.

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It's not getting freezing cold as nearly much.

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That's right.

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That's right.

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Well, we are going to take another short break.

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When we come back, we're going to continue to speak with Jonah Lindley about taking care

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of your fireplace, some things to look forward to and some things to some do's and don'ts

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and maybe a indicator of why you need to give them a call.

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You can find them online at ashbustersnoxville.com or you can reach them by phone at 865-470-6117.

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If you have questions or comments for us, give us a call.

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Shoot us a text 865-656-8255.

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We'll be right back here on Around the House on News Talk 98.7 WOKI.

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You know, Jonah, this whistling tune would probably make me think of a chimney sweep.

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Oh yeah.

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You know, I mean, so do you have, you got a nice pair of dancing shoes?

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I'm not much of a dancer myself.

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I can bust a move if I need to.

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All right.

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Well, I try not to embarrass myself too bad.

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I didn't know maybe, you know, once a year y'all did a reenactment or something.

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Oh Lordy.

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Hey, thank y'all for listening this morning.

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I am speaking with Jonah Lindley from Ash Busters.

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We're talking all things fireplaces.

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Keep yourself safe and clean and make sure your family's safe.

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If you want to reach them, you can find them online at ashbustersnoxville.com or you can

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reach them by phone at 865-470-6117.

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So you know, Jonah, you and I kind of joked a little bit about coming from the Midwest

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and you know, we had a fireplace and we burned that thing all the time.

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And you know, the funny thing about it is every time that fireplace was burning, it

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was always warm in that room and it was freezing in the rest of the house because you know,

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we were pinching pennies, right?

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So I'm sure nowadays there are things that people can do to help with that, but still,

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I mean, it's still, that's what you're going to get, right?

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I mean, you're going to heat up the room that you're in.

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For the most part, yeah.

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So hey, we have, we've got Bill here on the line.

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Bill's got a question for us about some backflow in backdraft.

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Okay.

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Hey Bill, good morning.

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How are you?

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Good morning, Scott.

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Hey man, good to hear from you again.

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Yeah, yeah.

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I'm becoming a regular here almost.

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All right.

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That's great.

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I love it.

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We'll just have you come sit in studio with us one day.

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How's that?

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I can ask questions.

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I'm not going to be an expert though.

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Well, what you, what you got this morning, Bill?

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What do you have for Jonah?

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Okay, Jonah, I've got a house was built in the, in the mid eighties.

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It's a, a gas fireplace that I don't normally use because I don't like the way it performs.

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Okay.

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The, I've always had a problem with the, with the not having enough draft.

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Okay.

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And it's a, it's a Mason rate.

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There is a flu valve on top, which I, I learned I really got to make sure that's open to get

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it to work.

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So once I figure out that it's, it's fully open, then I'll turn the gas on and open.

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Well, that it'll, it'll it comes on and it looks good, but then I noticed that there's

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a little bit of back flow on the top of the, on the top of the fireplace.

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And I said that, so I'll open the door and it gets better.

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But if I don't open the door, it really doesn't work well.

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And like Scott said, it doesn't really put a lot of heat in the room.

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I don't really use it, but I just wondered if it's well designed or if there's an issue

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with the design or it's just dirty.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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No, that's a great question.

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It could actually be, man, Bill, it could be a number of things.

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It could be the height of the chimney being a little too short and they're not being enough

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draw pressure.

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It could be the size of the opening, the fireplace in comparison to the size of that flu liner.

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If the opening is too big for the flu liner itself, it may not be able to naturally draft

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on its own.

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And so you bring it in that, that makeup air, that extra makeup air by opening up the door

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or window is definitely going to help there.

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It may also just be an older, an older system that needs refreshing or updating.

468
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And it may be that, that the damper that you're talking about opening and closing before you

469
00:27:54,960 --> 00:28:00,180
start it, that may not be opening as much as it could be.

470
00:28:00,180 --> 00:28:05,240
So this is a, this is a great, great reason to have us come out, Bill.

471
00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:07,040
I'd love to help.

472
00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:08,040
Bill.

473
00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:09,240
Yeah, I think so.

474
00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:10,540
You guys can help.

475
00:28:10,540 --> 00:28:13,920
You guys can diagnose it a little bit or do absolutely.

476
00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:14,920
Yeah.

477
00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:20,200
We could absolutely take a look and if there's something we can do to help you, we can, we

478
00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:22,720
can definitely talk about what that would look like.

479
00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:23,720
Great.

480
00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:24,720
Okay.

481
00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:25,720
That sounds good.

482
00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:26,720
Awesome.

483
00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:27,720
Hey, thanks Bill.

484
00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:28,720
We appreciate you calling this morning.

485
00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:34,360
You know, and I, I think that's probably a common problem, right?

486
00:28:34,360 --> 00:28:40,840
I mean, I have seen that over the years in a lot of different places that it's like a

487
00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:46,880
lot of these gas inserts, they're just designed for looks in, in the design of, of functionality

488
00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:47,880
is not there.

489
00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:48,880
Right.

490
00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:52,760
And, and I have, I, and I don't know if it's a common problem or not.

491
00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:58,240
I'm sure you would know, but I have seen that frequently that somebody will have a little

492
00:28:58,240 --> 00:29:04,360
gas fireplace going on and there's, there's that backflow coming back and not taking it

493
00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:05,360
out.

494
00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:08,560
So yeah, you got to be careful with that too.

495
00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:17,440
The, the emissions that come off of the gas fireplaces is a really fine, almost oily soot.

496
00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:22,920
And man, if, if you start getting a buildup or that stuff starts rolling back into the

497
00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:28,600
house, it's going to be an expensive cleaning bill to get rid of it.

498
00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:32,920
Well, and even with that, I mean, any, you know, any fuel source that's burning is going

499
00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:34,400
to create carbon oxide.

500
00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:35,400
That's right.

501
00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:40,320
And so, you know, that is obviously one of the main things in why it's so important that

502
00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:45,920
to have ash busters come out or have somebody come do that inspection and cleaning of your

503
00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:52,400
fireplace because one of its primary goals is a, it's got to have that draft to keep

504
00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:53,720
the fire going.

505
00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:56,740
But the other piece of it is, is it's, you're getting rid of the emissions.

506
00:29:56,740 --> 00:30:02,320
You're getting rid of the carbon oxide in the other particles in the other gases or

507
00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:10,300
the, the other, I guess gases that are being created from the burning of the fire.

508
00:30:10,300 --> 00:30:15,200
So whether it's a gas or whether it's an actual natural log fireplace, you're still going

509
00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:16,200
to have those things.

510
00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:17,200
That's right.

511
00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:21,280
You know, we talk about a lot in my world is, you know, we, we hear a lot about carbon

512
00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:27,720
oxide and you know, it's the, still the number one producer of carbon oxide is fire.

513
00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:30,600
You know, and so, uh, that's a good point.

514
00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:34,000
You know, an easy thing that any homeowner can do.

515
00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:40,400
And if, if you live in the city of Farragut and you've done any new construction or remodeling

516
00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:45,800
to your house, you know, the, the city of Farragut is on their P's and Q's lately with

517
00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:46,800
their inspections.

518
00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:47,800
Yeah.

519
00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:48,800
Right.

520
00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:52,040
And one of the number one things that they're pointing out in houses is that they don't

521
00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:54,560
have carbon monoxide detectors.

522
00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:55,560
Yeah.

523
00:30:55,560 --> 00:31:00,360
And that's an easy thing to have installed in your home, around the fireplace.

524
00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:06,680
If you've got a water heater or a gas furnace, have it installed in those areas or near those

525
00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:13,380
areas and just an extra layer of protection so that, you know, if, if one of those systems

526
00:31:13,380 --> 00:31:18,240
starts malfunctioning or failing, you're, you're not going to be breathing in that carbon

527
00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:20,080
monoxide, which is super dangerous.

528
00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:21,480
Well, and that's it.

529
00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:22,480
And yeah, you're right.

530
00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:28,160
You know, codes nowadays, anything new construction, they're requiring at least, um, typically

531
00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:30,440
there's at least one combo unit in there.

532
00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:33,480
It's a smoke heat and carbon monoxide detector.

533
00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:40,000
Um, and, and then, you know, a lot of areas are requiring carbons more and more in different

534
00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:41,200
areas of the home.

535
00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:42,200
Yeah.

536
00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:44,400
So w which, you know, I mean, it's a good thing, right?

537
00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:48,520
We need to have, we need to have those safety protocols in place.

538
00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:54,660
We had a customer who called us about her fireplace and she thought that the fireplace

539
00:31:54,660 --> 00:31:58,740
was causing this carbon monoxide buildup in the house.

540
00:31:58,740 --> 00:32:02,840
It was actually an older, uh, stove.

541
00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:03,840
Wow.

542
00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:05,680
In her kitchen.

543
00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:10,960
And when, whenever she was using it, something was wrong with it that was making it produce

544
00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:14,720
more carbon monoxide than, than we're able to breathe.

545
00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:19,180
And man, she had headaches for years and didn't really know what was going on until somebody

546
00:32:19,180 --> 00:32:20,520
mentioned something about it.

547
00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:22,480
So she called us to look at the fireplace.

548
00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:27,560
We did our testing, figured out it wasn't the fireplace is actually the stove in the

549
00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:28,560
kitchen.

550
00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:29,560
Holy moly.

551
00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:32,600
Did you, were you guys the ones that identified that?

552
00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:34,360
Oh, wow.

553
00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:35,360
Yeah.

554
00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:43,680
That's, I mean, that's just, that's how, it's how important maintenance on all these items

555
00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:44,680
are.

556
00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:47,200
That's really, uh, especially if you have anything, it's gas.

557
00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:53,320
You've, you've got to make sure that that is getting inspected on an annual basis.

558
00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:59,520
You just, you have to make sure that it's getting done because I mean, it's carbon monoxide

559
00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:01,360
is serious.

560
00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:06,680
It's dangerous and a lot of people are just absolutely terrified of it.

561
00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:07,680
I don't love that.

562
00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:11,280
You know, uh, I don't either just government's help with that.

563
00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:12,280
Yeah.

564
00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:17,140
And I, it's, it's not great, uh, to have that kind of fear about something in your house.

565
00:33:17,140 --> 00:33:19,480
So just have us out and come take a look at it.

566
00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:20,480
Yeah.

567
00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:21,480
We'll, we'll put your mind at ease.

568
00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:22,760
Well, and that's it, right?

569
00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:24,960
There's, there's plenty of things that you can do.

570
00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:29,160
And, and again, as we've been talking here with Jonah, it doesn't matter if it's a wood

571
00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:36,800
burning fireplace, gas fireplace, whatever that heat source is or novelty item that whatever

572
00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:42,160
that is, you can rely on ash busters to come out here, make sure that it's safe, make sure

573
00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:48,640
that it's operating properly, make sure that the flow is, is working in so that it can

574
00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:51,000
be as efficient as it can be.

575
00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:57,320
And quite frankly, that there's so many safety items that you can just put a check by on

576
00:33:57,320 --> 00:34:02,880
that box by having you guys come out and just check out that fireplace, make sure that you're

577
00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:03,880
ready.

578
00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:04,880
You're ready for the season.

579
00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:07,920
It, we're getting into the time of year that people are going to be turning the fireplace

580
00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:09,960
on just for a novelty item.

581
00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:12,600
They're going to be having holiday guests over.

582
00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:16,920
And the last thing you want to do is to have a problem and not know it.

583
00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:17,920
Right.

584
00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:22,160
So I'm just, if you're listening this morning, you got a fireplace, give these guys a call

585
00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:31,920
865-470-6117 go check them out online at ashbustersnoxville.com at ashbustersnoxville.com.

586
00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:40,600
If you've got questions, comments, give us a call, shoot us a text 865-656-8255.

587
00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:49,000
We'll be right back on around the house with Scott Brokamp on news talk, 987WOKI.

588
00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:51,080
Welcome back to around the house.

589
00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:57,560
I am Scott Brokamp and here in studio with me this morning is Mr. Joan Lindley from Ashbusters

590
00:34:57,560 --> 00:35:06,960
of Knoxville, ashbustersnoxville.com, or you can reach him by phone at 865-470-6117.

591
00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:11,880
Get your fireplace in order, get this baby ready to roll for the season.

592
00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:18,520
I'm sure some of you have already, uh, cracked out the flame and stoked a little fire.

593
00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:27,880
Uh, I know a few have, so Jonah, let's talk about for the novice people like myself, what

594
00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:35,400
are some, I've, you know, let's just say I haven't done the necessary maintenance and

595
00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:37,080
I'm using my fireplace.

596
00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:43,520
What are some telltale signs that I know that I've got a problem and I need to call the

597
00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:45,520
professionals at ashbusters?

598
00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:46,520
Yeah.

599
00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:50,360
So, we'll start, I'll start with a real big problem.

600
00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:56,040
If you ever have a fire rolling and it starts to sound like a choo choo train in your house,

601
00:35:56,040 --> 00:36:00,280
like a big locomotive, call the fire department.

602
00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:02,480
You got a chimney fire happening.

603
00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:07,000
And it's like, if you've ever heard of what a tornado sounds like and that amount of pressure

604
00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:12,680
and air moving, that's about what it sounds, most people say it sounds like to have a chimney

605
00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:14,480
fire or a flue fire.

606
00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:15,480
So that's one big one.

607
00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:17,160
It's not very common.

608
00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:22,040
Most of the time, the chimney fire is not going to burn down the house, but it is going

609
00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:24,340
to compromise the system.

610
00:36:24,340 --> 00:36:29,680
And so that's going to necessitate some pretty heavy repairs.

611
00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:35,000
On the more common side, I would say if you're starting a fire and you're having problems

612
00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:41,240
getting it, getting it to draft or that smoke is rolling back into the living room or hell,

613
00:36:41,240 --> 00:36:47,400
we've had some homeowners say, you know, we tried to light the fire and none of it was

614
00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:48,400
going out of the house.

615
00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:52,600
It was all just pouring back into the living room.

616
00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:54,880
So good indication there's a blockage.

617
00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:56,160
Yeah.

618
00:36:56,160 --> 00:36:59,440
Let's give us a call and see what we can do to help you out.

619
00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:05,960
If you've got water dripping into the firebox at any point in time, definitely give us a

620
00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:06,960
call.

621
00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:13,560
We can turn into some pretty hefty repair numbers over the course of several years.

622
00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:14,560
Sure.

623
00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:16,520
I mean, depending on what's wrong, obviously.

624
00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:21,600
And even just if you see like white streaking or something that looks like a water stain

625
00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:31,040
or a watermark in the firebox or around the ceiling of that chimney, there could be a

626
00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:35,260
sign that it's leaking and you should have that checked out.

627
00:37:35,260 --> 00:37:37,680
So that again, it doesn't turn into something major.

628
00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:38,680
Sure.

629
00:37:38,680 --> 00:37:39,680
Yeah.

630
00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:43,960
And as you know, I know we spoke a little bit about it in the very first segment that

631
00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:50,100
exterior box or that exterior surrounding around the actual flue of the fireplace is

632
00:37:50,100 --> 00:37:54,600
just as important and as vital as the actual flue itself.

633
00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:55,600
Yep.

634
00:37:55,600 --> 00:37:59,480
And so making sure that all of that is in order.

635
00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:07,640
And yeah, I know one of the houses that I was in a few years back that, you know, the

636
00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:13,840
chimney wouldn't maintained in, in, we'd lost power and I'm like, well, we got to start

637
00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:14,840
a fire.

638
00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:21,800
So I'm going to go way off base here, but maybe we've got people listening who just

639
00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:27,040
moved into a house that have a fireplace and they've never had a fireplace before.

640
00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:32,040
But what are the best steps when we start that fresh fire in that, in that fireplace?

641
00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:36,640
Well, first and foremost, let's give us a call, have us come out, get that inspection

642
00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:37,640
done.

643
00:38:37,640 --> 00:38:38,640
Absolutely.

644
00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:39,640
First thing first.

645
00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:44,080
And then when we're going to start the fire, one of the things that we do, like I said

646
00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:49,520
a little bit earlier, we want to understand what the homeowners expectations are, what

647
00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:53,240
the fireplace, what their needs, what their wants are.

648
00:38:53,240 --> 00:38:58,360
Part of that can definitely include how to start that first fire.

649
00:38:58,360 --> 00:39:00,240
We like the top down method.

650
00:39:00,240 --> 00:39:02,880
There's a bunch of YouTube videos available on that.

651
00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:08,280
If you just look up on YouTube top down fire and basically start at the bottom with some

652
00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:15,020
bigger logs, transition into medium sized logs, small pieces of wood, and then your

653
00:39:15,020 --> 00:39:20,020
sticks and your kindling on top and you get that stuff on top lit first.

654
00:39:20,020 --> 00:39:21,760
It's going to be the driest.

655
00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:28,240
It's going to get closest to complete combustion, which means there's less water or steam going

656
00:39:28,240 --> 00:39:30,120
into the system.

657
00:39:30,120 --> 00:39:38,920
If you get steam at the beginning of a fire, coating the inside of the liners or the system,

658
00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:42,480
that soot is going to more easily stick to everything.

659
00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:48,440
So you want to start the fire out as dry and as hot as possible with the little stuff.

660
00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:53,280
That also helps prime the flue so when it's real cold outside, it'll help with that draft.

661
00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:57,960
Then those embers will naturally just light everything below it.

662
00:39:57,960 --> 00:40:00,240
It's set it and forget it, kind of.

663
00:40:00,240 --> 00:40:03,240
Once you get the hang of it, you know what you're doing.

664
00:40:03,240 --> 00:40:07,440
You can build it, light it, and then kind of just sit back, relax.

665
00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:12,440
You're not on your hands and knees for 10, 15 minutes trying to get this thing started.

666
00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:13,760
You don't need lighter fluid.

667
00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:14,760
Please don't use lighter fluid.

668
00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:15,760
Oh my goodness, yeah.

669
00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:17,520
It's just easy, tried, true.

670
00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:19,120
All right, see?

671
00:40:19,120 --> 00:40:25,240
And again, those are some of the things that when we have conversations here on Around

672
00:40:25,240 --> 00:40:30,940
the House, we're talking with professionals and I feel like I'm fairly educated in a lot

673
00:40:30,940 --> 00:40:34,760
of things that have to do with the house, being that I've worked with construction for

674
00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:36,360
so many years.

675
00:40:36,360 --> 00:40:41,160
But a lot of times we don't think about the basics.

676
00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:44,280
We don't think about the simple things.

677
00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:48,960
Like when you're done cleaning out that firebox, right?

678
00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:54,320
I mean, a lot of people like to go cook on their grill and when you get done with that

679
00:40:54,320 --> 00:40:58,120
steak, there's some maintenance that has to happen with that grill.

680
00:40:58,120 --> 00:41:03,720
Just think if that grill was sitting in the center of your living room, you need to take

681
00:41:03,720 --> 00:41:04,720
care of that.

682
00:41:04,720 --> 00:41:11,440
You need to keep that thing clean because you never know what may be sitting in the

683
00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:14,360
leftover residue from the previous fire.

684
00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:21,400
And I have seen it, experienced it when I was a kid at our house up in Central Illinois

685
00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:25,320
that my stepdad would go in there and he'd love making a fire.

686
00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:27,840
And he didn't always clean that firebox out.

687
00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:33,120
And one night he started a fire and there had been, he had these little fancy pine cones

688
00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:35,600
that did these little fancy colors, right?

689
00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:36,600
Oh yeah.

690
00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:40,080
And he lit that thing and there was one still in there, but something had happened to it

691
00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:43,440
and that thing popped, man, it jumped out in the middle of the living room.

692
00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:44,920
It was just, it was crazy.

693
00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:45,920
You know?

694
00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:46,920
Yeah, just mayhem.

695
00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:50,320
I mean, and so, but those are some of the things that can happen.

696
00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:55,720
So listen, if you're listening this morning, if you have a fireplace, I don't care, gas,

697
00:41:55,720 --> 00:42:02,360
natural, we didn't even get into wood stoves, any of these sorts, if you have any of these,

698
00:42:02,360 --> 00:42:07,020
make sure that you get a professional to come out there and get it inspected.

699
00:42:07,020 --> 00:42:08,840
It's just simple peace of mind.

700
00:42:08,840 --> 00:42:14,280
You want to make sure that you're keeping yourself, your family, and your home safe.

701
00:42:14,280 --> 00:42:18,880
And one of the best ways to do it is to call a professional chimney sweep.

702
00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:23,020
I still, I'm just glad that term still runs around, right?

703
00:42:23,020 --> 00:42:32,720
But folks like Jonah over here at Ashbusters, ashbustersnoxville.com and 865-470-6117.

704
00:42:32,720 --> 00:42:34,720
That's ashbustersnoxville.com.

705
00:42:34,720 --> 00:42:39,880
Jonah, you got about 20 seconds, man.

706
00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:42,080
You got anything you want to leave our listeners with?

707
00:42:42,080 --> 00:42:44,080
Man, we've covered so much today, Scott.

708
00:42:44,080 --> 00:42:46,600
I think we're pretty good.

709
00:42:46,600 --> 00:42:52,120
The only thing we didn't talk about is if you don't have a chimney and you want a fireplace,

710
00:42:52,120 --> 00:42:53,120
give us a call.

711
00:42:53,120 --> 00:42:54,120
We can hook you up with one.

712
00:42:54,120 --> 00:42:55,120
There you go.

713
00:42:55,120 --> 00:42:56,120
There you go.

714
00:42:56,120 --> 00:42:58,080
You don't always need a chimney to get that fireplace in the house.

715
00:42:58,080 --> 00:43:00,200
So there's plenty of ways to do it.

716
00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:02,200
Hey, that's great information.

717
00:43:02,200 --> 00:43:03,200
All right.

718
00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:05,160
Well, we are going to take a short break.

719
00:43:05,160 --> 00:43:10,680
We'll be back for the second hour of Around the House and we'll talk a little bit about

720
00:43:10,680 --> 00:43:13,160
third Saturday in October.

721
00:43:13,160 --> 00:43:21,200
We'll see you here after the top of the hour on Around the House on News Talk 987 WOKI.

722
00:43:21,200 --> 00:43:26,560
Well good morning and welcome to the second hour of Around the House.

723
00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:29,600
We're so glad that you're listening with us this morning.

724
00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:35,120
I want to thank my first guest this morning, Jonah Lindley from Ash Busters.

725
00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:37,880
Man, just a great dude.

726
00:43:37,880 --> 00:43:43,440
I'm just going to tell you, we were able to share a little bit of time and he shared with

727
00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:49,120
me a lot about just the company in general and just an amazing story as far as a company

728
00:43:49,120 --> 00:43:52,520
goes and him as a journey.

729
00:43:52,520 --> 00:43:56,040
So you can find him at ashbustersnoxville.com.

730
00:43:56,040 --> 00:43:59,480
That's ashbustersnoxville.com.

731
00:43:59,480 --> 00:44:02,760
So while we're on a hot topic, right?

732
00:44:02,760 --> 00:44:03,760
You like that pun?

733
00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:06,760
I'm always working on my dad jokes.

734
00:44:06,760 --> 00:44:11,900
It is the third Saturday in October and well, let's face it.

735
00:44:11,900 --> 00:44:19,960
Last year, the Vols finally broke a 15 year losing streak to that horrible elephant.

736
00:44:19,960 --> 00:44:21,720
Get it baby.

737
00:44:21,720 --> 00:44:22,720
Come on.

738
00:44:22,720 --> 00:44:23,720
All right.

739
00:44:23,720 --> 00:44:26,720
Here we go.

740
00:44:26,720 --> 00:44:31,000
Yes, ain't nothing like the pride of the Southland bands.

741
00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:32,000
I love it.

742
00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:37,360
Hey, it was an exciting game, say the least last year ended with a 40 yard field goal

743
00:44:37,360 --> 00:44:39,320
as time expired.

744
00:44:39,320 --> 00:44:40,460
We stormed the field.

745
00:44:40,460 --> 00:44:41,800
We shot fireworks.

746
00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:46,720
We played Dixieland delight, which by the way is a Tennessee song.

747
00:44:46,720 --> 00:44:47,720
Good Lord.

748
00:44:47,720 --> 00:44:50,520
I just don't believe that.

749
00:44:50,520 --> 00:44:52,240
And you know what?

750
00:44:52,240 --> 00:44:54,160
We took the goalpost down.

751
00:44:54,160 --> 00:44:56,480
We took it out of the stadium.

752
00:44:56,480 --> 00:45:02,240
I just want to know, is it acceptable to storm the visitors field and take their goalpost?

753
00:45:02,240 --> 00:45:03,600
What do you think Chris?

754
00:45:03,600 --> 00:45:04,600
Is that cool?

755
00:45:04,600 --> 00:45:06,720
Can we do that?

756
00:45:06,720 --> 00:45:09,080
I mean, I don't see why not, right?

757
00:45:09,080 --> 00:45:15,960
I want to be careful down in, at least down there doing that.

758
00:45:15,960 --> 00:45:16,960
I don't know.

759
00:45:16,960 --> 00:45:19,440
You can't know until you try it.

760
00:45:19,440 --> 00:45:21,840
That's kind of what I'm thinking.

761
00:45:21,840 --> 00:45:24,080
I mean, you know what?

762
00:45:24,080 --> 00:45:25,600
I just think it's a good idea.

763
00:45:25,600 --> 00:45:31,800
In fact, I noticed on social media this morning, somebody has already made a map on how to

764
00:45:31,800 --> 00:45:35,960
get that goalpost out of Robert Denny Stadium.

765
00:45:35,960 --> 00:45:42,780
So did you know that Tennessee has beaten Bama more than any other SCC school?

766
00:45:42,780 --> 00:45:45,600
Take that, roll that tide, baby.

767
00:45:45,600 --> 00:45:50,640
The Vols have 38 wins against the tide, including a seven year winning streak back in the nineties

768
00:45:50,640 --> 00:45:57,800
to SCC school with the second most winning wins against Alabama, Auburn with 35.

769
00:45:57,800 --> 00:46:01,960
So kick off three 30 today.

770
00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:06,680
I ain't got to tell you, you already know you can listen to it on our sister station,

771
00:46:06,680 --> 00:46:10,040
WIVK home and of all network.

772
00:46:10,040 --> 00:46:12,240
Go big orange.

773
00:46:12,240 --> 00:46:13,240
I just don't know.

774
00:46:13,240 --> 00:46:15,560
I mean, I'm having struggles today, right?

775
00:46:15,560 --> 00:46:17,560
I just can't, I just can't wait for this game.

776
00:46:17,560 --> 00:46:22,620
I just, I just feel like it is a, it's going to be a victory.

777
00:46:22,620 --> 00:46:24,080
It's just going to be a victory.

778
00:46:24,080 --> 00:46:31,520
And I got to listen to one of my favorite people of all times, Dr. Monica Lebron.

779
00:46:31,520 --> 00:46:37,080
She is the assistant to Danny White and man, I'm, I'm just going to tell you, she is a

780
00:46:37,080 --> 00:46:38,160
firecracker.

781
00:46:38,160 --> 00:46:41,080
She will, she will get you pumped up, right?

782
00:46:41,080 --> 00:46:45,720
But one of the things that she said is she's like, listen, my whole life, she played sports

783
00:46:45,720 --> 00:46:50,120
and she's like, I never went into a game thinking I was going to lose.

784
00:46:50,120 --> 00:46:53,440
I'm going to every game thinking I'm going to win.

785
00:46:53,440 --> 00:46:54,440
Guess what?

786
00:46:54,440 --> 00:46:55,440
Mindsets everything.

787
00:46:55,440 --> 00:46:56,440
We're going to win.

788
00:46:56,440 --> 00:46:57,440
Yeah, we're going to win.

789
00:46:57,440 --> 00:46:58,440
All right.

790
00:46:58,440 --> 00:46:59,920
So, uh, here we go.

791
00:46:59,920 --> 00:47:01,800
Kick off today at three 30.

792
00:47:01,800 --> 00:47:06,880
You can catch it on our sister station, WIVK, the flagship station of the vault network

793
00:47:06,880 --> 00:47:07,880
after the game.

794
00:47:07,880 --> 00:47:12,120
If you want to go have some great food, check out the Greek fest, the annual festival at

795
00:47:12,120 --> 00:47:17,160
St George Greek Orthodox church is, uh, it's 47th year.

796
00:47:17,160 --> 00:47:20,200
It's going to be open today from 11 AM to 10 PM.

797
00:47:20,200 --> 00:47:25,200
The Penta one of Christopher Columbus's ships docked at Calhoun's on Friday, uh, on the

798
00:47:25,200 --> 00:47:26,820
river.

799
00:47:26,820 --> 00:47:30,720
You can tour the historic replica now through October 29th.

800
00:47:30,720 --> 00:47:32,520
No reservations are necessary.

801
00:47:32,520 --> 00:47:36,120
Just buy your ticket and board the floating museum at the dock.

802
00:47:36,120 --> 00:47:37,680
Check out what's going on around town.

803
00:47:37,680 --> 00:47:39,720
Go to visit Knoxville.com.

804
00:47:39,720 --> 00:47:40,720
That's visit Knoxville.com.

805
00:47:40,720 --> 00:47:44,360
Well, it's that time of year.

806
00:47:44,360 --> 00:47:48,580
Did you happen to notice the smell last week?

807
00:47:48,580 --> 00:47:54,360
You know, that electrical fire smell coming from your furnace for the first time that

808
00:47:54,360 --> 00:47:55,360
you turned it on.

809
00:47:55,360 --> 00:47:56,360
Cause it was a little chilly.

810
00:47:56,360 --> 00:47:58,240
A lot of people did.

811
00:47:58,240 --> 00:48:02,280
And it's well, the worst thing to wake up to in the middle of night wondering what's

812
00:48:02,280 --> 00:48:07,260
going on here to solve the mystery of what that smell is.

813
00:48:07,260 --> 00:48:13,800
Another HVAC phenomenon is Aaron Gillison from AA Air Company in central seating, central

814
00:48:13,800 --> 00:48:15,600
city heating and air.

815
00:48:15,600 --> 00:48:20,280
Aaron is a mechanical system engineer designer.

816
00:48:20,280 --> 00:48:21,280
That's correct.

817
00:48:21,280 --> 00:48:22,280
That'll be me.

818
00:48:22,280 --> 00:48:23,280
Thanks for having me on this morning.

819
00:48:23,280 --> 00:48:24,520
Well, thank you.

820
00:48:24,520 --> 00:48:30,560
We, uh, and if you're listening, if you listened last week, we also were talking HVAC and,

821
00:48:30,560 --> 00:48:35,480
uh, I'm just glad Aaron that you were willing to step in at last minute to be here with

822
00:48:35,480 --> 00:48:36,480
us this morning.

823
00:48:36,480 --> 00:48:37,480
Thank you so much.

824
00:48:37,480 --> 00:48:39,560
I can't tell you how much we appreciate you guys.

825
00:48:39,560 --> 00:48:40,560
Absolutely.

826
00:48:40,560 --> 00:48:45,920
All right, Aaron, tell us a little bit about AA Air Co.

827
00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:51,180
Well, um, AA Air Company was started back in 1973.

828
00:48:51,180 --> 00:48:55,760
So we're celebrating 50 years in business this year, which is a pretty exciting thing.

829
00:48:55,760 --> 00:48:59,040
Uh, we, we happened to have a little celebration a couple of weeks back.

830
00:48:59,040 --> 00:49:02,040
Um, and we were started by my grandfather, Donald Perkel.

831
00:49:02,040 --> 00:49:07,000
Uh, so I'm the third generation working in the family business alongside my brother,

832
00:49:07,000 --> 00:49:08,000
Cooper.

833
00:49:08,000 --> 00:49:09,000
Shout out to him today.

834
00:49:09,000 --> 00:49:11,760
Uh, he's, it's nice to be able to work with family.

835
00:49:11,760 --> 00:49:14,000
My mother is our lead engineer and owner.

836
00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:15,800
Her name's Donna Kimball.

837
00:49:15,800 --> 00:49:22,400
And for a long time, uh, one of our sayings about our business is, um, uh, if somebody

838
00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:28,120
else can't fix it, we can fix some problems others can't, uh, because of how a system

839
00:49:28,120 --> 00:49:30,600
relates to the entire house.

840
00:49:30,600 --> 00:49:32,680
Um, and we have two locations.

841
00:49:32,680 --> 00:49:37,880
We operate out of Knoxville with AA Air Company and Central City is a company we took on,

842
00:49:37,880 --> 00:49:40,920
uh, coming up almost on three years ago.

843
00:49:40,920 --> 00:49:46,240
And, and they, it really has, I know it's flown by, uh, when it's good, it goes quick.

844
00:49:46,240 --> 00:49:50,960
Um, and we operate that business out of Kingston over in Rhone County.

845
00:49:50,960 --> 00:49:55,520
So we can go, uh, I joke, we can go from Kodak to Kingston, Maryville to Clinton and take

846
00:49:55,520 --> 00:49:58,000
care of anybody that may have some needs.

847
00:49:58,000 --> 00:50:01,360
Well, that's, that's a pretty good area.

848
00:50:01,360 --> 00:50:06,960
Well, and I just, I can't, three years?

849
00:50:06,960 --> 00:50:10,440
In February, so I'm a little ahead of the game here, but yeah.

850
00:50:10,440 --> 00:50:13,360
Um, and there's a great group of employees there.

851
00:50:13,360 --> 00:50:17,640
We're very thankful to have, uh, that's our greatest asset.

852
00:50:17,640 --> 00:50:22,440
And what's great to have is, is really good people, um, who are working, working hard

853
00:50:22,440 --> 00:50:24,800
to take care of all the customers.

854
00:50:24,800 --> 00:50:28,840
Well, one thing I know is you guys are definitely easy to get ahold of.

855
00:50:28,840 --> 00:50:34,000
If you need to get ahold of them, just go to yourcomfortablezone.com.

856
00:50:34,000 --> 00:50:36,720
It's real simple, nice, easy and catchy.

857
00:50:36,720 --> 00:50:44,560
Uh, obviously if you, um, need to reach in by phone, you can get them at 865-213-1354

858
00:50:44,560 --> 00:50:48,360
or by email at contact at centralcityhvac.com.

859
00:50:48,360 --> 00:50:52,920
So, uh, what is that smell?

860
00:50:52,920 --> 00:50:59,040
Okay, so if you haven't been having any heat running and you get a little bit of dust collecting

861
00:50:59,040 --> 00:51:04,960
on the internal parts, that's usually what is the cause of that funky smell.

862
00:51:04,960 --> 00:51:09,240
A collection of, of particulates on those interior parts and pieces.

863
00:51:09,240 --> 00:51:15,060
That's more commonly, uh, what we find, um, especially if it hasn't been maintained very

864
00:51:15,060 --> 00:51:16,880
much in the last couple of years.

865
00:51:16,880 --> 00:51:19,720
Uh, just kind of burning off some of that old stuff.

866
00:51:19,720 --> 00:51:23,400
Um, and that is true for also for a brand new furnace.

867
00:51:23,400 --> 00:51:27,520
Let's say you had a new air conditioner, a new furnace installed this summer.

868
00:51:27,520 --> 00:51:30,680
Uh, it's just now getting to be used for heat.

869
00:51:30,680 --> 00:51:35,400
So there can be a little bit of that funky smell from manufacturing that is burning off.

870
00:51:35,400 --> 00:51:38,240
Uh, which it's not necessarily harmful to you.

871
00:51:38,240 --> 00:51:40,760
People kind of get like, oh my goodness, what is that smell?

872
00:51:40,760 --> 00:51:43,880
Uh, and maybe a phone call or two wondering what's going on.

873
00:51:43,880 --> 00:51:48,800
But, uh, once it gets burned off, it's good to go and hopefully you won't smell it anymore.

874
00:51:48,800 --> 00:51:50,600
Yeah, it's pretty normal.

875
00:51:50,600 --> 00:51:53,360
I think we're all accustomed to that nowadays.

876
00:51:53,360 --> 00:52:00,680
Uh, but it's, uh, you know, I've always wondered why it smells as particular as it does, right?

877
00:52:00,680 --> 00:52:02,360
It's the same every year.

878
00:52:02,360 --> 00:52:03,360
Right.

879
00:52:03,360 --> 00:52:04,360
Right.

880
00:52:04,360 --> 00:52:09,480
I'm like, do I got the same garbage that are, you know, I go in weird places with things.

881
00:52:09,480 --> 00:52:13,920
So one of the things that I know that you guys deal a lot with is, is some of these

882
00:52:13,920 --> 00:52:18,880
common complaints of temperature balancing the home for comfort levels on multiple levels

883
00:52:18,880 --> 00:52:21,400
of a home in multiple areas.

884
00:52:21,400 --> 00:52:29,060
Um, I just, we're going to talk about this when we come back because this to me is one

885
00:52:29,060 --> 00:52:35,520
of the number one concerns that I have and that I see a lot in when we're dealing with

886
00:52:35,520 --> 00:52:43,500
HVAC as I, you know, we work in a lot of new construction homes and I don't know.

887
00:52:43,500 --> 00:52:48,420
So if you got a home that you feel like it's a little warmer and run room one room than

888
00:52:48,420 --> 00:52:52,920
it is in the other, or the temperature is just never balanced, make sure you tune back

889
00:52:52,920 --> 00:52:56,280
in with us after this break, because we're going to dive into that a little bit.

890
00:52:56,280 --> 00:53:02,460
And Erin is going to, well, share her over 50 years of wealth of knowledge from her family

891
00:53:02,460 --> 00:53:07,040
as to maybe how we can answer this, this lifelong question.

892
00:53:07,040 --> 00:53:10,360
Stay tuned with us right here on around the house with Scott Brokamp on news.

893
00:53:10,360 --> 00:53:16,000
I'm 98 seven W okay.

894
00:53:16,000 --> 00:53:18,920
Welcome back to around the house.

895
00:53:18,920 --> 00:53:25,440
I hope that you are nice and cozy and comfortable in your house this morning, but if you're

896
00:53:25,440 --> 00:53:29,560
not my next guest is who you need to call.

897
00:53:29,560 --> 00:53:36,160
Erin Gillison from AA air company can take care of that and make sure that you are in

898
00:53:36,160 --> 00:53:37,900
your comfortable zone.

899
00:53:37,900 --> 00:53:41,800
You can find them online at your comfortable zone.com.

900
00:53:41,800 --> 00:53:47,280
You can reach them by phone at eight six five two one three one three five four.

901
00:53:47,280 --> 00:53:52,280
So Erin, before we went to break, we were talking about imbalances in our homes.

902
00:53:52,280 --> 00:53:53,280
Right.

903
00:53:53,280 --> 00:53:59,080
And, you know, I mean, I see it all the time in new construction and how these things are

904
00:53:59,080 --> 00:54:01,160
designed and laid out.

905
00:54:01,160 --> 00:54:05,160
And I live in a new construction home and I struggle with it.

906
00:54:05,160 --> 00:54:07,560
It's just, it seems to be to be endless.

907
00:54:07,560 --> 00:54:08,560
And of course, right.

908
00:54:08,560 --> 00:54:14,360
We have the, you guys have the hard task because everybody wants open, open living, want big

909
00:54:14,360 --> 00:54:15,840
open spaces.

910
00:54:15,840 --> 00:54:22,040
And we all want nice big glass walls to look out of because of the beautiful views in East

911
00:54:22,040 --> 00:54:23,040
Tennessee.

912
00:54:23,040 --> 00:54:24,040
Of course.

913
00:54:24,040 --> 00:54:25,400
And beautiful vaulted ceilings.

914
00:54:25,400 --> 00:54:29,560
Oh, they're they when I walk into a home like that, it's, it certainly is nice.

915
00:54:29,560 --> 00:54:33,840
And then I start asking some questions and trying to figure out how, how are we going

916
00:54:33,840 --> 00:54:35,080
to fix this?

917
00:54:35,080 --> 00:54:41,440
So and very commonly, you know, a cold basement, an uncomfortable room over the garage.

918
00:54:41,440 --> 00:54:45,740
Those are some common complaints that I see that there are several avenues to be able

919
00:54:45,740 --> 00:54:46,740
to fix that.

920
00:54:46,740 --> 00:54:47,740
Yeah.

921
00:54:47,740 --> 00:54:55,560
And I know even, even like in my house, we've got our main floor is its own zone.

922
00:54:55,560 --> 00:54:58,960
But even over there, we've got a couple of different returns and there's a couple of

923
00:54:58,960 --> 00:55:01,960
different, I mean, it's a big space to, to have all of that.

924
00:55:01,960 --> 00:55:06,720
And we've often wondered in our own home, why is it, why is the temperature so much

925
00:55:06,720 --> 00:55:09,680
different on this side of the house and is on that side of the house?

926
00:55:09,680 --> 00:55:13,340
And obviously it's the, well, the sun and the glass and the windows.

927
00:55:13,340 --> 00:55:17,940
So what are some things that you guys, obviously you deal with on a regular basis, what are

928
00:55:17,940 --> 00:55:24,640
some solutions that you guys offer to help in these types of, well, problems that our

929
00:55:24,640 --> 00:55:25,880
customers encounter?

930
00:55:25,880 --> 00:55:26,880
Sure.

931
00:55:26,880 --> 00:55:27,880
Sure.

932
00:55:27,880 --> 00:55:33,760
So when I first come into the home, you know, if somebody is looking at a replacement or

933
00:55:33,760 --> 00:55:39,480
they're having an issue, the first thing I have to do is measure out your square footage,

934
00:55:39,480 --> 00:55:43,820
your cubic footage, your square footage of your windows and do as much investigation

935
00:55:43,820 --> 00:55:49,160
as I can to figure out how well the house is insulated and run something called a heat

936
00:55:49,160 --> 00:55:51,160
load calculation.

937
00:55:51,160 --> 00:55:57,680
That tells us how much heating and cooling in BTUs that this structure needs.

938
00:55:57,680 --> 00:56:04,120
So that way I can be sure, okay, is the system sized correctly by tonnage, both either in

939
00:56:04,120 --> 00:56:09,200
air conditioning on the cooling side or if it's a gas furnace, is it sized big enough

940
00:56:09,200 --> 00:56:10,200
for the house?

941
00:56:10,200 --> 00:56:13,760
That's the first step, which is, of course, you're leaning a little bit on an expert for

942
00:56:13,760 --> 00:56:15,960
that first.

943
00:56:15,960 --> 00:56:20,740
After that, if that's satisfied and it's that, we've got to look at the duct work.

944
00:56:20,740 --> 00:56:26,900
We've got to look at if it's sized big enough or small enough and make sure that that duct

945
00:56:26,900 --> 00:56:29,360
work design was also done correctly.

946
00:56:29,360 --> 00:56:35,720
It can be a couple of steps to get some information that really helps our customers.

947
00:56:35,720 --> 00:56:38,720
So that's where I start.

948
00:56:38,720 --> 00:56:43,200
Sometimes it can be a little tricky having duct work between floors.

949
00:56:43,200 --> 00:56:46,600
Sometimes we do a little bit of exploratory cuts to try to figure out what size that duct

950
00:56:46,600 --> 00:56:48,600
work is.

951
00:56:48,600 --> 00:56:53,520
That way we can really tell them, okay, this is definitely what's going to help you.

952
00:56:53,520 --> 00:56:56,560
Here's plan A. Here's plan B.

953
00:56:56,560 --> 00:57:00,320
You really want that plan A to work first.

954
00:57:00,320 --> 00:57:04,600
So you try to go for the correct solution.

955
00:57:04,600 --> 00:57:06,440
And then sometimes air balancing.

956
00:57:06,440 --> 00:57:09,780
How that airflow is, air doesn't just flow.

957
00:57:09,780 --> 00:57:12,160
You got to distribute it evenly.

958
00:57:12,160 --> 00:57:15,960
So sometimes manipulating that airflow is where we go.

959
00:57:15,960 --> 00:57:20,680
What are some things that you do to make that happen?

960
00:57:20,680 --> 00:57:24,960
So hopefully we've got access to the duct system.

961
00:57:24,960 --> 00:57:29,960
And when you're measuring airflow through every single vent, you can make sure, okay,

962
00:57:29,960 --> 00:57:34,840
is the furnace, does it have the dip switch settings for the airflow correctly?

963
00:57:34,840 --> 00:57:40,280
Are we getting as much airflow as this three ton or four ton system should be putting out?

964
00:57:40,280 --> 00:57:44,920
And then hopefully if I've got access to the duct system, we go to that and we see if there

965
00:57:44,920 --> 00:57:47,880
are some manual dampers on each of those little supply branches.

966
00:57:47,880 --> 00:57:55,160
Being able to manipulate those little pieces and make sure that airflow is distributed

967
00:57:55,160 --> 00:57:57,920
just as evenly as it possibly can.

968
00:57:57,920 --> 00:58:03,440
Because I mean, just to kind of paint a picture, a three ton system is pushing approximately

969
00:58:03,440 --> 00:58:05,480
1200 cubic feet per minute.

970
00:58:05,480 --> 00:58:09,220
I'm a big Pat Summit basketball fan, right?

971
00:58:09,220 --> 00:58:11,720
One cubic foot is about a basketball.

972
00:58:11,720 --> 00:58:13,960
That's 1200 basketballs a minute.

973
00:58:13,960 --> 00:58:16,180
1200 basketballs per minute.

974
00:58:16,180 --> 00:58:19,500
So when you're manipulating that and trying to make sure that all those basketballs get

975
00:58:19,500 --> 00:58:24,400
exactly to the hoop they need to get to, you just go to the duct system and you manipulate

976
00:58:24,400 --> 00:58:29,300
that a little bit, these little dampers that you can aim in different directions.

977
00:58:29,300 --> 00:58:32,840
And that can make a big difference.

978
00:58:32,840 --> 00:58:37,820
And something that I would caution homeowners to be careful with, you don't want to close

979
00:58:37,820 --> 00:58:42,400
things down too hard and cause some high static pressure.

980
00:58:42,400 --> 00:58:43,920
Because that'll cause some other issues too.

981
00:58:43,920 --> 00:58:49,360
So it's kind of a little bit of a fun game to manipulate that airflow.

982
00:58:49,360 --> 00:58:52,560
Kind of like when we set up a home theater.

983
00:58:52,560 --> 00:58:56,800
We've got these great tools to do a lot of these auto calibrations, but at the end of

984
00:58:56,800 --> 00:59:00,480
the day, I'm just going to tell you, I'm going to get in there and I'm going to tweak.

985
00:59:00,480 --> 00:59:05,980
I'm going to tweak it and we're going to dial that thing in and fine tune it to where now

986
00:59:05,980 --> 00:59:14,240
we are getting the most efficiency and the most return out of that unit.

987
00:59:14,240 --> 00:59:16,360
Gotta polish it so it'll shine.

988
00:59:16,360 --> 00:59:18,680
That's right.

989
00:59:18,680 --> 00:59:25,960
So well, I'm going to kind of piggyback off a little bit from our first guest from Ashbusters,

990
00:59:25,960 --> 00:59:29,880
but we're going to a little bit of safety.

991
00:59:29,880 --> 00:59:35,560
I mean, having, making sure not just your chimney, but your HVAC system, making sure

992
00:59:35,560 --> 00:59:41,120
that it's inspected regularly is the key to make sure obviously it's operating at its

993
00:59:41,120 --> 00:59:44,840
highest efficiencies, but to make sure that you and your family are safe.

994
00:59:44,840 --> 00:59:49,280
We don't want to be putting toxins into the air of our home.

995
00:59:49,280 --> 00:59:50,280
Right.

996
00:59:50,280 --> 00:59:51,280
Yep.

997
00:59:51,280 --> 00:59:52,280
Because safety never takes a holiday, Scott.

998
00:59:52,280 --> 00:59:53,280
It does not.

999
00:59:53,280 --> 00:59:54,440
It never takes a holiday.

1000
00:59:54,440 --> 00:59:57,320
Or sleeps or it just is constant.

1001
00:59:57,320 --> 00:59:58,320
Yes.

1002
00:59:58,320 --> 00:59:59,320
Yes.

1003
00:59:59,320 --> 01:00:04,040
And it's something that as we're in our home and we're comfortable, we relax a little bit

1004
01:00:04,040 --> 01:00:08,400
and we forget sometimes about making sure that we've dotted our I's and crossed our

1005
01:00:08,400 --> 01:00:12,320
T's or maybe P's and Q's as Jonah said earlier.

1006
01:00:12,320 --> 01:00:15,240
But getting an inspection on your system is a great idea.

1007
01:00:15,240 --> 01:00:17,920
There's some safety inspections that we have.

1008
01:00:17,920 --> 01:00:25,360
But not to use the scary words of carbon monoxide, but there's a lot of people who are still

1009
01:00:25,360 --> 01:00:26,920
not converting away from electric.

1010
01:00:26,920 --> 01:00:27,920
They're keeping their gas.

1011
01:00:27,920 --> 01:00:29,240
They want it.

1012
01:00:29,240 --> 01:00:35,160
And making sure that it's vented properly is an important thing.

1013
01:00:35,160 --> 01:00:38,040
And also making sure that there's no cracks in the heat exchanger.

1014
01:00:38,040 --> 01:00:41,920
All those kind of little technical terms that when your service technician comes out and

1015
01:00:41,920 --> 01:00:45,720
talks to you about what they found, what does that mean?

1016
01:00:45,720 --> 01:00:47,760
What does that mean for you?

1017
01:00:47,760 --> 01:00:51,840
We have a funny little story of a service technician that he was out on a maintenance

1018
01:00:51,840 --> 01:00:56,120
and found some funny pressure readings and he was kind of going down a rabbit hole because

1019
01:00:56,120 --> 01:00:57,840
everything else was okay.

1020
01:00:57,840 --> 01:01:02,920
But then once he cut open the PVC venting on that 90% furnace, which I'll explain that

1021
01:01:02,920 --> 01:01:06,520
a little bit as well, he found a collection of acorns.

1022
01:01:06,520 --> 01:01:08,240
Some squirrel found a spot.

1023
01:01:08,240 --> 01:01:11,000
That PVC vent looked really good to store those acorns in.

1024
01:01:11,000 --> 01:01:13,040
He was just dropping them down in there.

1025
01:01:13,040 --> 01:01:19,440
So sometimes it's a little bit of a rabbit hole that we go down to try to be performing

1026
01:01:19,440 --> 01:01:24,320
as thorough of a maintenance as possible because that backflow could cause some issues, that

1027
01:01:24,320 --> 01:01:28,640
venting, not being able to vent out the exhaust from the furnace.

1028
01:01:28,640 --> 01:01:31,360
And that poor squirrel, I mean, he never got to those acorns.

1029
01:01:31,360 --> 01:01:33,360
I don't know how he was going to get to there.

1030
01:01:33,360 --> 01:01:36,560
How are you ever going to get them out?

1031
01:01:36,560 --> 01:01:40,000
Sorry, buddy.

1032
01:01:40,000 --> 01:01:41,760
Sometimes squirrels just don't think about that, I guess.

1033
01:01:41,760 --> 01:01:42,760
I don't know.

1034
01:01:42,760 --> 01:01:45,840
Maybe they were going to, like Jonah was talking about, they were going to send the little

1035
01:01:45,840 --> 01:01:48,600
baby down the little skinny tube.

1036
01:01:48,600 --> 01:01:49,600
Oh, man.

1037
01:01:49,600 --> 01:01:54,280
Yeah, no way to know that's going to get out.

1038
01:01:54,280 --> 01:02:00,920
But having a very thorough maintenance service done by a professional is never a bad idea,

1039
01:02:00,920 --> 01:02:03,560
whether it's electric or gas.

1040
01:02:03,560 --> 01:02:08,240
Electric systems, just this year, another short little story is just this year we found

1041
01:02:08,240 --> 01:02:10,940
a newer unit, only three years old.

1042
01:02:10,940 --> 01:02:15,000
They had had a lot of problems out of it and service technician was out there.

1043
01:02:15,000 --> 01:02:19,560
When he went to put his hand on the air handler, it was so hot with his hand, he barely could

1044
01:02:19,560 --> 01:02:20,560
get the door off.

1045
01:02:20,560 --> 01:02:21,560
Wow.

1046
01:02:21,560 --> 01:02:24,800
And then we were reading on the inside, it was 200 degrees inside of that electric air

1047
01:02:24,800 --> 01:02:25,800
handler.

1048
01:02:25,800 --> 01:02:27,360
So it was a split heat pump system.

1049
01:02:27,360 --> 01:02:30,400
And he called and said, there's something wrong with this.

1050
01:02:30,400 --> 01:02:33,480
This is more than what I'm looking at.

1051
01:02:33,480 --> 01:02:36,440
He's looking at the interior parts and I'm looking at the big picture.

1052
01:02:36,440 --> 01:02:41,080
And we found that the duct work was undersized, causing that high static air pressure.

1053
01:02:41,080 --> 01:02:46,200
So it's holding all that heat that was trying to be dispersed right in that blower motor.

1054
01:02:46,200 --> 01:02:49,360
Which was a fire risk to this customer.

1055
01:02:49,360 --> 01:02:51,760
For it to be 200 degrees inside of air handler is not normal.

1056
01:02:51,760 --> 01:02:54,320
Yeah, because it's got to go somewhere.

1057
01:02:54,320 --> 01:02:56,680
You know, I mean, it's producing heat.

1058
01:02:56,680 --> 01:03:02,080
If it doesn't have the flow and the capability to escape, right?

1059
01:03:02,080 --> 01:03:05,400
I mean, that's kind of how furnace works.

1060
01:03:05,400 --> 01:03:06,880
It creates a huge heat source.

1061
01:03:06,880 --> 01:03:09,000
It's creating heat and it has to escape.

1062
01:03:09,000 --> 01:03:13,560
And that escape is what's actually heating our homes and making us feel comfortable.

1063
01:03:13,560 --> 01:03:18,360
And yeah, I mean, if it's not getting out, it's like a pressure cooker.

1064
01:03:18,360 --> 01:03:19,360
Yes, yes.

1065
01:03:19,360 --> 01:03:20,360
It's going to go.

1066
01:03:20,360 --> 01:03:22,520
And so he said, Aaron, I need you out here.

1067
01:03:22,520 --> 01:03:23,520
You got to look at this.

1068
01:03:23,520 --> 01:03:28,440
And of course, we found what we needed to do and took care of that customer and communicated

1069
01:03:28,440 --> 01:03:30,440
very thoroughly with what our findings were.

1070
01:03:30,440 --> 01:03:34,220
Well, and let's face it.

1071
01:03:34,220 --> 01:03:37,320
Every product that we put in our home, it's made by somebody.

1072
01:03:37,320 --> 01:03:42,280
Yes, there may be a robot or a machine somewhere helping put it together, but there's human

1073
01:03:42,280 --> 01:03:43,280
handling involved.

1074
01:03:43,280 --> 01:03:44,280
Right.

1075
01:03:44,280 --> 01:03:47,840
And anytime there's human handling involved, there is a margin for error.

1076
01:03:47,840 --> 01:03:51,560
And even if it's not human handling, there's still a margin for error.

1077
01:03:51,560 --> 01:03:52,560
That's correct.

1078
01:03:52,560 --> 01:03:53,560
Yes.

1079
01:03:53,560 --> 01:03:56,320
And we deal with it with electronics in particular.

1080
01:03:56,320 --> 01:03:57,720
You're going to have faulty parts.

1081
01:03:57,720 --> 01:03:59,480
You're going to have bad parts.

1082
01:03:59,480 --> 01:04:01,000
Things are going to happen.

1083
01:04:01,000 --> 01:04:08,360
And just like in that side of things, we have seen, unfortunately, we have seen sparks.

1084
01:04:08,360 --> 01:04:13,800
We have luckily nothing has turned into a fire, but you know, you got a circuit board

1085
01:04:13,800 --> 01:04:16,080
that's passing electricity.

1086
01:04:16,080 --> 01:04:21,120
And if there's a problem in that board, if the electricity goes to the wrong place, it's

1087
01:04:21,120 --> 01:04:22,320
going to cause a problem.

1088
01:04:22,320 --> 01:04:26,800
And sometimes just through basic handling, simple things can happen.

1089
01:04:26,800 --> 01:04:27,800
Right.

1090
01:04:27,800 --> 01:04:30,360
Voltage wants to take it easy and it's going to find the easiest route.

1091
01:04:30,360 --> 01:04:34,560
It's always going to find it past the path of least resistance.

1092
01:04:34,560 --> 01:04:35,560
Yes.

1093
01:04:35,560 --> 01:04:36,560
Right.

1094
01:04:36,560 --> 01:04:37,560
Yes, absolutely.

1095
01:04:37,560 --> 01:04:40,200
So, you know, even on electric systems, you got to be careful.

1096
01:04:40,200 --> 01:04:45,760
And you know, having, and I know you're a great expert on carbon monoxide security.

1097
01:04:45,760 --> 01:04:50,880
You've known about that for a long time and you know how to communicate that to customers.

1098
01:04:50,880 --> 01:04:56,000
And I heard earlier, Mr. Jonah from Ash Busters talking about it, which was great.

1099
01:04:56,000 --> 01:05:01,440
Expansion and contraction of things is how they get worn out and, you know, certain cracks

1100
01:05:01,440 --> 01:05:04,080
in the heat exchanger start to happen.

1101
01:05:04,080 --> 01:05:07,400
So it's definitely his recommendation and, of course, always your recommendations to

1102
01:05:07,400 --> 01:05:13,480
have a good carbon monoxide detector that detects at a low part per million and has a digital

1103
01:05:13,480 --> 01:05:14,660
readout if you've got one.

1104
01:05:14,660 --> 01:05:18,480
Those are great because in that way you can see if it's starting to alert you for a low

1105
01:05:18,480 --> 01:05:21,440
level, you can address that quickly.

1106
01:05:21,440 --> 01:05:22,440
Right.

1107
01:05:22,440 --> 01:05:27,260
And open a window and start looking around and seeing, okay, what could this possibly

1108
01:05:27,260 --> 01:05:33,520
be and do I need to call somebody to delve into a little bit further and investigate?

1109
01:05:33,520 --> 01:05:34,520
Yeah.

1110
01:05:34,520 --> 01:05:36,720
And it's always, detection is always key.

1111
01:05:36,720 --> 01:05:38,680
You know, detection is always key.

1112
01:05:38,680 --> 01:05:45,280
And again, whether it's a fireplace, whether it's your HVAC, anything that is a possibility

1113
01:05:45,280 --> 01:05:49,920
of producing carbon oxide needs to be serviced on a regular basis.

1114
01:05:49,920 --> 01:05:51,040
It's just that simple.

1115
01:05:51,040 --> 01:05:55,440
It's the only way to make sure that it's performing and operating properly and making sure that

1116
01:05:55,440 --> 01:06:01,640
it is not producing this deadly gas that we all know is to be taken serious.

1117
01:06:01,640 --> 01:06:03,440
And you know, Jonah alluded to it as well.

1118
01:06:03,440 --> 01:06:07,000
I know some people go a little overboard with it.

1119
01:06:07,000 --> 01:06:11,280
I know some things have occurred that create quite a bit of a scare.

1120
01:06:11,280 --> 01:06:16,560
But I think at the end of the day, we have things in place nowadays, especially in new

1121
01:06:16,560 --> 01:06:17,560
construction.

1122
01:06:17,560 --> 01:06:21,280
We are providing that level of safety and there's things that we can do for detection

1123
01:06:21,280 --> 01:06:28,680
and awareness of these items, much like yourself as you guys also work to provide and find

1124
01:06:28,680 --> 01:06:30,080
the solutions for.

1125
01:06:30,080 --> 01:06:31,120
Absolutely.

1126
01:06:31,120 --> 01:06:32,160
We don't want to scare anybody.

1127
01:06:32,160 --> 01:06:33,160
We just want to take care of them.

1128
01:06:33,160 --> 01:06:34,160
That's right.

1129
01:06:34,160 --> 01:06:35,160
That's right.

1130
01:06:35,160 --> 01:06:36,160
It's just awareness.

1131
01:06:36,160 --> 01:06:37,160
It's like many of things.

1132
01:06:37,160 --> 01:06:40,240
It's kind of like NIL and college sports, right?

1133
01:06:40,240 --> 01:06:44,160
It's got to get a little bad before it gets a little good.

1134
01:06:44,160 --> 01:06:45,160
But we're getting there.

1135
01:06:45,160 --> 01:06:46,160
We're getting there.

1136
01:06:46,160 --> 01:06:47,160
Absolutely.

1137
01:06:47,160 --> 01:06:48,560
Well, we are going to take a short break.

1138
01:06:48,560 --> 01:06:57,960
We'll be right back here on Around the House with Scott Brokamp on News Talk 98.7 WOKI.

1139
01:06:57,960 --> 01:07:05,240
You know, we probably should have been whistling Dixieland delight in here this morning, but

1140
01:07:05,240 --> 01:07:08,640
we'll settle for a little around the house whistling tune.

1141
01:07:08,640 --> 01:07:10,640
Hey, I'm Scott Brokamp.

1142
01:07:10,640 --> 01:07:12,400
Welcome back to Around the House.

1143
01:07:12,400 --> 01:07:19,320
I am speaking with Aaron Gillison of AA Air here in Knoxville in Kingston.

1144
01:07:19,320 --> 01:07:23,640
They service a, well, pretty much the entire Knoxville greater area.

1145
01:07:23,640 --> 01:07:26,160
So you can, they stretch out quite a bit.

1146
01:07:26,160 --> 01:07:30,120
So if you need any HVAC services, they are the team to call.

1147
01:07:30,120 --> 01:07:31,120
No doubt about it.

1148
01:07:31,120 --> 01:07:34,040
Aaron is a mechanical systems designer.

1149
01:07:34,040 --> 01:07:39,000
He can help figure out what's going on and well, get it fixed for you right away.

1150
01:07:39,000 --> 01:07:43,120
You can find them online at yourcomfortablezone.com.

1151
01:07:43,120 --> 01:07:46,120
That's yourcomfortablezone.com.

1152
01:07:46,120 --> 01:07:48,400
Super easy way to find them.

1153
01:07:48,400 --> 01:07:53,720
So Aaron, before we took a break, we were talking a little bit about safety and well,

1154
01:07:53,720 --> 01:07:58,480
there's some more that goes into safety and that is your furnace in your heat source and

1155
01:07:58,480 --> 01:08:01,120
some possible problems that may arise.

1156
01:08:01,120 --> 01:08:02,120
That's correct.

1157
01:08:02,120 --> 01:08:07,320
You know, when you have somebody come out and either look at a problem or new maintenance

1158
01:08:07,320 --> 01:08:11,720
and your service technician comes up to you and says, I'm really sorry, but I've got to

1159
01:08:11,720 --> 01:08:13,360
shut off this furnace.

1160
01:08:13,360 --> 01:08:17,080
You have a crack in your heat exchanger.

1161
01:08:17,080 --> 01:08:21,400
Sometimes I see people kind of being confused about why it's a problem.

1162
01:08:21,400 --> 01:08:23,500
Why do we have to shut this thing off?

1163
01:08:23,500 --> 01:08:26,880
Why can't I just keep using my heat?

1164
01:08:26,880 --> 01:08:31,400
And so I thought I might talk about that for just a minute and help explain why a service

1165
01:08:31,400 --> 01:08:36,160
technician is going to turn it off until you can get either a repair on the heat exchanger

1166
01:08:36,160 --> 01:08:39,840
or a replacement furnace.

1167
01:08:39,840 --> 01:08:43,340
So when they come out and they do that inspection, they come to you.

1168
01:08:43,340 --> 01:08:49,560
What they have found inside of that furnace is in that heat exchanger, which is a part

1169
01:08:49,560 --> 01:08:54,760
of the furnace where the gas burns through a separate chamber.

1170
01:08:54,760 --> 01:09:01,680
It's separated away from the airflow as far as the gas fumes and how it exhausts.

1171
01:09:01,680 --> 01:09:08,620
And it absorbs that heat as the airflow passes by the heat exchanger, but not through it.

1172
01:09:08,620 --> 01:09:15,640
So when they find a crack, that means that there is a great risk of carbon monoxide mixing

1173
01:09:15,640 --> 01:09:21,040
with your airflow and coming into the spaces where you're sleeping, where you're eating,

1174
01:09:21,040 --> 01:09:23,560
where you're being comfortable.

1175
01:09:23,560 --> 01:09:27,080
And when we see that, we have to make sure that you're not putting yourself at risk and

1176
01:09:27,080 --> 01:09:28,960
that we're not putting our customers at risk.

1177
01:09:28,960 --> 01:09:32,820
So when they come to you and say, hey, you've got a crack or it's very rusty, you should

1178
01:09:32,820 --> 01:09:38,480
start to consider looking at either a repair or a replacement on the furnace.

1179
01:09:38,480 --> 01:09:39,480
Rusty is not bad.

1180
01:09:39,480 --> 01:09:40,480
They're going to let you know about it.

1181
01:09:40,480 --> 01:09:44,840
But a crack means that that carbon monoxide can mix with your airflow.

1182
01:09:44,840 --> 01:09:49,160
Well, and that heat exchanger is where, I mean, that's literally where the flames are

1183
01:09:49,160 --> 01:09:50,160
at.

1184
01:09:50,160 --> 01:09:51,160
Right.

1185
01:09:51,160 --> 01:09:55,560
I mean, that's your, it's producing heat and then it's blowing air across that heat.

1186
01:09:55,560 --> 01:09:56,560
Right.

1187
01:09:56,560 --> 01:09:57,560
Right.

1188
01:09:57,560 --> 01:10:06,560
So, you know, you're already, you're already producing things that are going, that are

1189
01:10:06,560 --> 01:10:09,240
being pushed through the air system from that point.

1190
01:10:09,240 --> 01:10:14,640
So it's why it is so important, obviously, to make sure that you address any issues with

1191
01:10:14,640 --> 01:10:20,760
that heat exchanger as it's designed, is designed to fact that it's burning off all the toxins

1192
01:10:20,760 --> 01:10:25,520
before it's pushing that heat and forcing that air into your home.

1193
01:10:25,520 --> 01:10:26,520
Sure.

1194
01:10:26,520 --> 01:10:31,840
So therefore, if there is a crack or if there is a defect of any sort in that heat exchanger

1195
01:10:31,840 --> 01:10:37,840
at that point in time, then obviously that's why it is so important because if it's not

1196
01:10:37,840 --> 01:10:43,640
getting the opportunity to burn off those toxins, it's pushing those toxins forcefully

1197
01:10:43,640 --> 01:10:45,320
by air into your home.

1198
01:10:45,320 --> 01:10:46,320
Right.

1199
01:10:46,320 --> 01:10:52,760
So just making sure that there's no risk to you and making sure that your service technician

1200
01:10:52,760 --> 01:10:55,200
is doing a thorough job.

1201
01:10:55,200 --> 01:11:00,920
And there is something that is true about this too, that when we are opening up a furnace,

1202
01:11:00,920 --> 01:11:05,180
we are doing the very best job that we can with everything that's accessible to check

1203
01:11:05,180 --> 01:11:06,180
it out.

1204
01:11:06,180 --> 01:11:07,760
There's parts of that heat exchanger we can't see.

1205
01:11:07,760 --> 01:11:08,760
Right.

1206
01:11:08,760 --> 01:11:14,200
So there are some other tests that we can do to try to see, you know, something that

1207
01:11:14,200 --> 01:11:16,880
is a telltale sign is how those flames are burning.

1208
01:11:16,880 --> 01:11:17,880
Right.

1209
01:11:17,880 --> 01:11:21,120
If they're rolling out, if they're doing something strange, then that service technician,

1210
01:11:21,120 --> 01:11:26,720
maybe he can't, he or she cannot see that there's a crack, but that's a sign.

1211
01:11:26,720 --> 01:11:29,720
And you got to pay attention to those signs and symptoms.

1212
01:11:29,720 --> 01:11:32,800
So that way you can be very, very careful with how you provide service.

1213
01:11:32,800 --> 01:11:37,340
Well, and that's why it's so important to have, well, an experienced team.

1214
01:11:37,340 --> 01:11:42,560
You know, somebody who maybe has 50 years in the business may not be a bad choice.

1215
01:11:42,560 --> 01:11:43,560
Right.

1216
01:11:43,560 --> 01:11:44,960
So, all right.

1217
01:11:44,960 --> 01:11:47,120
So we talked a little bit about heat exchangers.

1218
01:11:47,120 --> 01:11:51,640
What are our sources, our heat sources?

1219
01:11:51,640 --> 01:11:56,360
What's available to us here and what is the most popular here for us in East Tennessee?

1220
01:11:56,360 --> 01:12:02,160
That is a big question this year because of the federal tax incentives to possibly go

1221
01:12:02,160 --> 01:12:03,160
electric.

1222
01:12:03,160 --> 01:12:09,880
And I'll tell you, my personal opinion is that both resources to heat and cool are valuable.

1223
01:12:09,880 --> 01:12:10,960
Both of them are.

1224
01:12:10,960 --> 01:12:14,880
And how they're used is really important to consider.

1225
01:12:14,880 --> 01:12:17,240
I don't think that necessarily gas is better than electric.

1226
01:12:17,240 --> 01:12:19,400
I don't think electric is better than gas.

1227
01:12:19,400 --> 01:12:24,860
It's just how it's designed and what's best for where you are.

1228
01:12:24,860 --> 01:12:28,040
So there's something called an 80% furnace.

1229
01:12:28,040 --> 01:12:29,520
There's a 90% furnace.

1230
01:12:29,520 --> 01:12:32,360
And then of course, a split heat pump.

1231
01:12:32,360 --> 01:12:35,400
There's geothermal, which we don't see as commonly in the city.

1232
01:12:35,400 --> 01:12:37,560
We see that much more on the outskirts.

1233
01:12:37,560 --> 01:12:38,560
Right.

1234
01:12:38,560 --> 01:12:44,400
But the most common thing I find for heating is a furnace.

1235
01:12:44,400 --> 01:12:50,080
And 80% means that it's using about 80% of the gas that comes through the cabinet, and

1236
01:12:50,080 --> 01:12:51,920
about 20% is exhaust.

1237
01:12:51,920 --> 01:12:54,720
So that's why your 90%'ers are a little bit more efficient.

1238
01:12:54,720 --> 01:13:01,160
But there are some differences between the two furnaces and there's places for both of

1239
01:13:01,160 --> 01:13:02,160
them.

1240
01:13:02,160 --> 01:13:05,080
Every house is different and unique and individual.

1241
01:13:05,080 --> 01:13:11,680
So how those are installed and where they are placed is very, very important when you're

1242
01:13:11,680 --> 01:13:17,280
trying to decide, man, do I keep this gas furnace and enjoy this toasty, warm, quick

1243
01:13:17,280 --> 01:13:18,280
heat?

1244
01:13:18,280 --> 01:13:22,720
Or do I want to consider converting to an electric system?

1245
01:13:22,720 --> 01:13:23,720
Placement is so important.

1246
01:13:23,720 --> 01:13:24,720
Installation is so important.

1247
01:13:24,720 --> 01:13:25,720
Yeah.

1248
01:13:25,720 --> 01:13:30,760
Well, and of course nowadays, just with the technology advancements that we have in everything

1249
01:13:30,760 --> 01:13:37,000
that we deal with in life nowadays, I mean, obviously it has shored up the distance and

1250
01:13:37,000 --> 01:13:39,520
the divide between electric and gas.

1251
01:13:39,520 --> 01:13:42,160
There used to be obviously huge differences between them.

1252
01:13:42,160 --> 01:13:43,160
Right.

1253
01:13:43,160 --> 01:13:47,040
Obviously a big part of it is again, like you mentioned, where we live.

1254
01:13:47,040 --> 01:13:53,880
We live here in East Tennessee, quite frankly, that affords us a lot of opportunity to take

1255
01:13:53,880 --> 01:13:59,000
advantage of things that most people in other parts of the world in this country don't have

1256
01:13:59,000 --> 01:14:00,000
the ability to do.

1257
01:14:00,000 --> 01:14:04,800
Aren't you so glad we get to have all four seasons?

1258
01:14:04,800 --> 01:14:09,880
I mean, if we could just take winter out of the equation, I'd be ecstatic.

1259
01:14:09,880 --> 01:14:11,280
That's my favorite season to work in.

1260
01:14:11,280 --> 01:14:15,880
You know, luckily, well, I'm sure y'all get a little busy during the winter time.

1261
01:14:15,880 --> 01:14:18,840
Those addicts are really comfortable in the winter.

1262
01:14:18,840 --> 01:14:20,880
You're right about that.

1263
01:14:20,880 --> 01:14:29,120
We were talking about this off air, but now is the time that I would think that all the

1264
01:14:29,120 --> 01:14:33,360
HVAC companies would just be slammed.

1265
01:14:33,360 --> 01:14:39,760
But unfortunately, what you guys experience is you're in a lull right now.

1266
01:14:39,760 --> 01:14:45,640
You know, you're steady, you're busy, but it's not crazy, right?

1267
01:14:45,640 --> 01:14:46,640
Right.

1268
01:14:46,640 --> 01:14:51,160
Well, and I think it's funny because sometimes I'll see people talking about, okay, let's

1269
01:14:51,160 --> 01:14:56,200
make a game of how long are we going to wait until we turn on this heater?

1270
01:14:56,200 --> 01:14:57,480
Let's make a gamble about it.

1271
01:14:57,480 --> 01:14:59,380
Let's have a little fun.

1272
01:14:59,380 --> 01:15:05,080
And then like last year around Christmas, maybe you are one competitive individual and

1273
01:15:05,080 --> 01:15:09,020
you wait all the way till Christmas where it's negative five with the wind chill and

1274
01:15:09,020 --> 01:15:13,320
you turn it on and oh my goodness, my furnace is not coming on.

1275
01:15:13,320 --> 01:15:15,160
So it's not a bad idea.

1276
01:15:15,160 --> 01:15:19,920
You know, let's watch the Vols today and enjoy that game.

1277
01:15:19,920 --> 01:15:25,720
But at home, let's go ahead and set our furnace or our split heat pump on a reasonable temperature

1278
01:15:25,720 --> 01:15:26,720
and see if it comes on.

1279
01:15:26,720 --> 01:15:30,660
Because at least that way, okay, I know right now I've got heat.

1280
01:15:30,660 --> 01:15:34,760
Maybe I'll schedule maintenance here soon, but at least I've got some heat.

1281
01:15:34,760 --> 01:15:35,760
Right.

1282
01:15:35,760 --> 01:15:37,640
And that's it.

1283
01:15:37,640 --> 01:15:42,520
You know, unfortunately, so many people, we miss the maintenance, we don't take care of

1284
01:15:42,520 --> 01:15:43,520
it.

1285
01:15:43,520 --> 01:15:44,700
We wait, we wait, we wait.

1286
01:15:44,700 --> 01:15:49,960
And then we go and so what's going to happen is it's going to turn cold and everybody's

1287
01:15:49,960 --> 01:15:53,440
going to crank that heat on and they're going to have that failure.

1288
01:15:53,440 --> 01:15:57,400
And then they're going to call their local HVAC professional and everybody's going to

1289
01:15:57,400 --> 01:15:58,400
be swamped.

1290
01:15:58,400 --> 01:15:59,400
Right.

1291
01:15:59,400 --> 01:16:06,560
So, you know, just be a little proactive, turn it on, make sure that it works.

1292
01:16:06,560 --> 01:16:09,840
Look, you can, you can early identify some problems right now.

1293
01:16:09,840 --> 01:16:10,840
Right.

1294
01:16:10,840 --> 01:16:13,520
You know, have that maintenance done.

1295
01:16:13,520 --> 01:16:14,520
Get ready.

1296
01:16:14,520 --> 01:16:21,400
Well, and I will say too, as a system designer, sometimes I run into situations that it's

1297
01:16:21,400 --> 01:16:26,160
going to take us a couple days and I've got to redesign a portion of it or maybe even

1298
01:16:26,160 --> 01:16:27,400
the whole thing.

1299
01:16:27,400 --> 01:16:30,960
And sometimes when I'm doing that in the heat of the summer, we'll get them some cooling

1300
01:16:30,960 --> 01:16:32,680
back hopefully.

1301
01:16:32,680 --> 01:16:35,760
And then I'll communicate to them, you know, the best time for you to do this when you're

1302
01:16:35,760 --> 01:16:40,560
going to have your system down for a week or more, let's look at October or November

1303
01:16:40,560 --> 01:16:45,440
or let's look at April or March so that that way if your system's down for a week while

1304
01:16:45,440 --> 01:16:50,880
we are putting something in with quality, you're not going to be too uncomfortable for

1305
01:16:50,880 --> 01:16:53,080
that entire week that you don't have something.

1306
01:16:53,080 --> 01:16:56,360
You know, sometimes people will use those, those little heaters and things like that

1307
01:16:56,360 --> 01:17:00,960
to, to, to take care of it, but it makes it a lot less stressful.

1308
01:17:00,960 --> 01:17:05,720
Sometimes I find some things that, you know, we've got to correct with a replacement system

1309
01:17:05,720 --> 01:17:09,640
and it's a little bit less stressful to, to have it done around this time.

1310
01:17:09,640 --> 01:17:10,640
Right.

1311
01:17:10,640 --> 01:17:11,640
Yeah.

1312
01:17:11,640 --> 01:17:14,240
You just, man, I hate to have to do it when you need it.

1313
01:17:14,240 --> 01:17:15,240
You know, I mean, that's the thing.

1314
01:17:15,240 --> 01:17:17,760
And I mean, look, things are going to happen.

1315
01:17:17,760 --> 01:17:21,200
You know, those are the times that your systems are going to be taxed to the max is when you

1316
01:17:21,200 --> 01:17:25,240
need them the most, when it gets super cold outside and when it's super hot outside, those

1317
01:17:25,240 --> 01:17:29,360
were our systems are there are, if they're not at peak efficiency, that's when, that's

1318
01:17:29,360 --> 01:17:32,600
when you're going to notice you'll, you'll see those signs of trouble.

1319
01:17:32,600 --> 01:17:39,320
That's when the stress, stress, stress fractures are going to show up in, in, you know, so,

1320
01:17:39,320 --> 01:17:42,400
you know, when Jonah earlier was talking about expansion and contraction of the chimney,

1321
01:17:42,400 --> 01:17:48,560
you know, he was talking about that cause and damage, that same action is what leads

1322
01:17:48,560 --> 01:17:50,680
those heat exchangers to crack over time.

1323
01:17:50,680 --> 01:17:57,800
So, you know, having something that is correctly installed, correctly designed, and just maintained

1324
01:17:57,800 --> 01:18:00,520
is the way to kind of put that off a little bit.

1325
01:18:00,520 --> 01:18:03,400
Let's keep that furnace in just as long as we can.

1326
01:18:03,400 --> 01:18:04,400
There you go.

1327
01:18:04,400 --> 01:18:06,320
Well, we are going to take a short break.

1328
01:18:06,320 --> 01:18:10,580
When we come back, we're, well, we're going to get some last minute tips from Aaron Gillison

1329
01:18:10,580 --> 01:18:16,240
on making sure that your home is nice and cozy and comfy through the holidays and all

1330
01:18:16,240 --> 01:18:17,240
year round.

1331
01:18:17,240 --> 01:18:21,720
We'll be right back here on around the house with Scott Brokamp on news talk, 98 seven

1332
01:18:21,720 --> 01:18:24,720
W okay.

1333
01:18:24,720 --> 01:18:29,840
I welcome back to around the house.

1334
01:18:29,840 --> 01:18:32,640
We are in the home stretch.

1335
01:18:32,640 --> 01:18:37,320
You probably like me, you're a little anxious, a little excited.

1336
01:18:37,320 --> 01:18:40,880
It's our Tennessee Vols go.

1337
01:18:40,880 --> 01:18:41,880
Yeah.

1338
01:18:41,880 --> 01:18:44,880
I'm, I'm, I'm just excited.

1339
01:18:44,880 --> 01:18:46,360
I'm excited about this game today.

1340
01:18:46,360 --> 01:18:47,480
I just, I really am.

1341
01:18:47,480 --> 01:18:50,200
I feel really, I just feel good about it.

1342
01:18:50,200 --> 01:18:52,000
Uh, any right.

1343
01:18:52,000 --> 01:18:54,160
I'm sure y'all are with me.

1344
01:18:54,160 --> 01:18:55,160
Look, absolutely.

1345
01:18:55,160 --> 01:19:00,200
I'm just going to tell you, you have to go in with a positive mindset no matter what.

1346
01:19:00,200 --> 01:19:03,200
And you just got to go give, do your best, just do your best.

1347
01:19:03,200 --> 01:19:04,200
Right.

1348
01:19:04,200 --> 01:19:05,200
Every day, every day.

1349
01:19:05,200 --> 01:19:06,200
All right.

1350
01:19:06,200 --> 01:19:08,720
So we have Aaron Gillison speaking of doing your best.

1351
01:19:08,720 --> 01:19:15,960
She is a mechanical system designer at AA air and central city heating and air.

1352
01:19:15,960 --> 01:19:22,440
And uh, well, we've been talking about a lot of things really, but I just keeping yourself

1353
01:19:22,440 --> 01:19:27,320
safe and well, as your slogan goes, keeping you in your comfortable zone.

1354
01:19:27,320 --> 01:19:31,320
You can find them online at your comfortable zone.com.

1355
01:19:31,320 --> 01:19:37,060
So Aaron, we, we alluded to it, uh, and we talked a little bit about it in the last segment,

1356
01:19:37,060 --> 01:19:46,200
but this, this whole push in, in incentive about going electric, um, when is it, when

1357
01:19:46,200 --> 01:19:47,200
is it right?

1358
01:19:47,200 --> 01:19:48,200
When is it not right?

1359
01:19:48,200 --> 01:19:52,680
Uh, I mean, again, we're, we're, we're really blessed here in our area, right?

1360
01:19:52,680 --> 01:19:55,040
We are in a TVA area.

1361
01:19:55,040 --> 01:20:04,000
We have, uh, we have better electricity costs than most, um, due to that TVA economic structure

1362
01:20:04,000 --> 01:20:05,600
that we are a part of.

1363
01:20:05,600 --> 01:20:06,600
Yes.

1364
01:20:06,600 --> 01:20:09,160
Um, and, and there's benefits to both, right?

1365
01:20:09,160 --> 01:20:12,360
There's benefits to both, but when does it make sense?

1366
01:20:12,360 --> 01:20:17,240
When should I really maybe consider moving to electric and what do I need to be aware

1367
01:20:17,240 --> 01:20:18,300
of?

1368
01:20:18,300 --> 01:20:19,300
That's a great question.

1369
01:20:19,300 --> 01:20:24,480
Um, and you know, what I, what I like to do is communicate with customers and educate

1370
01:20:24,480 --> 01:20:29,160
them on the differences between the two and let them know with all this information that

1371
01:20:29,160 --> 01:20:32,520
we give you that I'ma share is do the best thing for you.

1372
01:20:32,520 --> 01:20:38,360
Um, do what's best for you because, um, gas has a value for heating, electric has a value

1373
01:20:38,360 --> 01:20:44,460
for heating, but, um, certain houses are going to do a little bit better with an electric

1374
01:20:44,460 --> 01:20:45,800
conversion than others.

1375
01:20:45,800 --> 01:20:53,120
Um, if a house is very well insulated, if you've got great windows, great floor insulation,

1376
01:20:53,120 --> 01:20:59,480
um, those are all things that when somebody's got a gas system in and I'm looking at a replacement

1377
01:20:59,480 --> 01:21:05,020
for them, I do a little bit of investigation on and I, and I do kind of open that door

1378
01:21:05,020 --> 01:21:06,320
of conversation.

1379
01:21:06,320 --> 01:21:12,120
You know, are you aware of, uh, the grants and push to go electric?

1380
01:21:12,120 --> 01:21:13,120
Are you interested in that?

1381
01:21:13,120 --> 01:21:15,120
Do you have any questions?

1382
01:21:15,120 --> 01:21:20,360
Because the way that electric heating systems feel versus gas systems, it is a little bit

1383
01:21:20,360 --> 01:21:21,360
different.

1384
01:21:21,360 --> 01:21:25,720
Um, you know, gas heat, if you were to take a temperature of the airflow coming out of

1385
01:21:25,720 --> 01:21:31,960
the register, it's on average about a 30 degree temperature difference of that airflow.

1386
01:21:31,960 --> 01:21:36,560
Um, gas heat is a little warmer, a little toaster and a little drier.

1387
01:21:36,560 --> 01:21:43,120
Um, and so houses that maybe they don't have the best windows, uh, when, when a customer

1388
01:21:43,120 --> 01:21:49,360
is, Oh, I really want to take advantage of, uh, the tax incentives to go electric.

1389
01:21:49,360 --> 01:21:54,360
And I'm looking at a house that it's going to run a lot, even if I size it bigger, even

1390
01:21:54,360 --> 01:21:59,000
if I put more tonnage in, um, they've got very drafty windows, they don't have floor

1391
01:21:59,000 --> 01:22:00,000
insulation.

1392
01:22:00,000 --> 01:22:06,040
I usually say to them, you know, converting to electric, you're probably going to want

1393
01:22:06,040 --> 01:22:07,800
to insulate more.

1394
01:22:07,800 --> 01:22:12,680
You're going to want to update your windows so that that way it can still be warm.

1395
01:22:12,680 --> 01:22:16,520
It'll meet the needs of the thermostat, but it does feel different.

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And what we're buying here is comfort.

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Um, so are you, are you prepared to do these energy footprint improvements to your house

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along with this HVAC system?

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Is it something that you think you're going to do soon?

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01:22:29,200 --> 01:22:34,880
So that way your system's not running, running, running, um, and trying to keep up with how

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cold it can be.

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Um, and, uh, so those are things to consider.

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01:22:39,440 --> 01:22:46,000
Cause as, as a person myself, I have to say, I do like that toasty gas furnace personally.

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01:22:46,000 --> 01:22:50,280
Um, I've, I've got a gas system below and electric system above.

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So my house is quote unquote dual fuel.

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It's a dual fuel envelope design.

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01:22:55,320 --> 01:22:56,800
I'm getting really nerdy here.

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Uh, but, and I'm very happy with it.

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It does a great job.

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Uh, and my house is an older 1930 craftsman.

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It's drafty.

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I have original windows.

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01:23:05,840 --> 01:23:11,920
Um, so I knew while electric has its benefits and it has certainly gotten better.

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Heat pumps have gotten way better.

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01:23:14,080 --> 01:23:21,200
I was still like, I'm a little sensitive to cold, even though I work where I'm uncomfortable

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all the time.

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01:23:22,320 --> 01:23:24,680
When I'm at home, I want to be cozy.

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01:23:24,680 --> 01:23:25,680
Yes.

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01:23:25,680 --> 01:23:26,680
Cozy and warm.

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01:23:26,680 --> 01:23:29,800
And, you know, my kids want to be cozy and warm.

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01:23:29,800 --> 01:23:33,080
And so that's what I decided to do for myself.

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01:23:33,080 --> 01:23:37,420
But looking at your home envelope is important to consider because when someone, when you're

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01:23:37,420 --> 01:23:41,480
spending thousands of dollars on a new system, you want to be happy with the results.

1424
01:23:41,480 --> 01:23:42,480
Absolutely.

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01:23:42,480 --> 01:23:45,520
You don't want to be like, oh man, I really wish I kept that gas.

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01:23:45,520 --> 01:23:49,120
I know I got these incentives and I got this tax credit.

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01:23:49,120 --> 01:23:51,680
And there are actually also TVA rebates.

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01:23:51,680 --> 01:23:56,480
If you're installing contractor is in that quality network.

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01:23:56,480 --> 01:23:59,800
There are incentives there, especially with split heat pumps.

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01:23:59,800 --> 01:24:05,080
Uh, you know, there are some that actually have a hyper heat condenser and you don't

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01:24:05,080 --> 01:24:06,760
need auxiliary heat.

1432
01:24:06,760 --> 01:24:07,760
Hmm.

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01:24:07,760 --> 01:24:08,760
Yes.

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01:24:08,760 --> 01:24:14,080
And so there are certain applications where that's much better for a customer to consider.

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01:24:14,080 --> 01:24:16,560
And it takes a lot of that load off of TVA.

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01:24:16,560 --> 01:24:20,520
That auxiliary heat is the most inefficient part of a heat pump.

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01:24:20,520 --> 01:24:26,480
And so with that newer technology, which is fantastic, we've had some really good reports

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01:24:26,480 --> 01:24:31,120
back from customers where we put that type of system in.

1439
01:24:31,120 --> 01:24:34,160
It's still important to consider what about my house?

1440
01:24:34,160 --> 01:24:35,160
Right.

1441
01:24:35,160 --> 01:24:36,160
The application's everything.

1442
01:24:36,160 --> 01:24:37,160
Yeah.

1443
01:24:37,160 --> 01:24:41,720
And you know, you mentioned that some of the differences in that heat, right?

1444
01:24:41,720 --> 01:24:47,080
And that drier heat is, I mean, it's going to feel hotter, right?

1445
01:24:47,080 --> 01:24:52,800
Just like, I mean, just like an air conditioning system is designed to remove moisture, right?

1446
01:24:52,800 --> 01:24:54,220
Not to push out cold air.

1447
01:24:54,220 --> 01:24:57,400
It's to remove moisture, which makes the air more comfortable.

1448
01:24:57,400 --> 01:25:05,040
So, you know, the same thing that that electric heat, because it is a slower, uh, and as by

1449
01:25:05,040 --> 01:25:11,360
design, it is, it's not going to be that, that quick push dry heat, which I mean, let's

1450
01:25:11,360 --> 01:25:13,200
face it, first kicks on with gas.

1451
01:25:13,200 --> 01:25:14,200
It just comes out.

1452
01:25:14,200 --> 01:25:15,200
Yeah.

1453
01:25:15,200 --> 01:25:16,200
It comes out ready to go.

1454
01:25:16,200 --> 01:25:17,200
It is.

1455
01:25:17,200 --> 01:25:18,200
It's ready to go.

1456
01:25:18,200 --> 01:25:20,480
Well, Eric, thank you so much for joining us this morning.

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01:25:20,480 --> 01:25:25,800
Hey, if you've got HVAC questions, needs, check out AA Air.

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01:25:25,800 --> 01:25:35,000
You can find them online at yourcomfortablezone.com or you can give them a call at 865-213-1354.

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01:25:35,000 --> 01:25:37,840
Thank you so much for joining us this morning.

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01:25:37,840 --> 01:25:42,200
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01:25:45,200 --> 01:25:50,040
I again want to thank our guests this morning, Jonah Lindley with Ash Busters and Aaron Gillison

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of AA Air Central City Heating and Air.

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01:25:52,920 --> 01:25:59,560
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01:26:09,600 --> 01:26:15,800
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01:26:16,800 --> 01:26:17,800
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