1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:05,280 Hello and welcome to the Pocket Cast. 2 00:00:05,280 --> 00:00:07,880 I'm Fletcher and I'm joined with Ed. 3 00:00:07,880 --> 00:00:08,880 Hey there. 4 00:00:08,880 --> 00:00:12,800 Is it joined with Ed or joined by Ed? 5 00:00:12,800 --> 00:00:14,200 Um, by. 6 00:00:14,200 --> 00:00:15,840 Probably by. 7 00:00:15,840 --> 00:00:17,840 God damn it. 8 00:00:17,840 --> 00:00:20,360 I guess that makes me the host and you the co-host. 9 00:00:20,360 --> 00:00:22,000 I'll take it. 10 00:00:22,000 --> 00:00:30,840 We wanted to do, I wanted to do a podcast about the DS library, which I think is absolutely 11 00:00:30,840 --> 00:00:35,480 brilliant and creative. 12 00:00:35,480 --> 00:00:42,520 It was called, what was the original name of it is, not the dual screen, the DS, but 13 00:00:42,520 --> 00:00:48,280 the DS also stands for director, director system, something like that. 14 00:00:48,280 --> 00:00:51,320 Do you know what it is? 15 00:00:51,320 --> 00:00:53,440 Developer system, something like that. 16 00:00:53,440 --> 00:00:54,440 Okay. 17 00:00:54,440 --> 00:00:55,440 Okay. 18 00:00:55,440 --> 00:00:56,440 Developer system. 19 00:00:56,440 --> 00:00:57,440 I could see, make sense. 20 00:00:57,440 --> 00:00:58,720 Maybe something, I think maybe developer system. 21 00:00:58,720 --> 00:01:03,020 And so it's because it was so, it was supposed to be so accessible and like just so easy 22 00:01:03,020 --> 00:01:05,600 to make games for. 23 00:01:05,600 --> 00:01:12,000 And I think that's why it has like such a weird fun library, especially like when it 24 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:20,080 comes to, you see a lot of indie ish titles, things that you would call indie, like in 25 00:01:20,080 --> 00:01:28,400 the way that they play developed by Nintendo, things along that line. 26 00:01:28,400 --> 00:01:29,400 And so go ahead. 27 00:01:29,400 --> 00:01:34,880 I was going to say, I would definitely agree with that. 28 00:01:34,880 --> 00:01:41,880 It was one of my first impressions just browsing through the library and noticing big brands 29 00:01:41,880 --> 00:01:47,600 reinventing IPs for the platform and, you know, in the form of new mechanics to accommodate 30 00:01:47,600 --> 00:01:49,640 the DS. 31 00:01:49,640 --> 00:01:55,880 And some of them are good and some of them are, well, all of them are weird, but it's 32 00:01:55,880 --> 00:02:01,840 weird to see those indie like qualities coming from larger IPs spread evenly across the board. 33 00:02:01,840 --> 00:02:07,640 Because you clearly, you have to kind of adapt certain things to facilitate a game that would 34 00:02:07,640 --> 00:02:09,360 actually work on the DS. 35 00:02:09,360 --> 00:02:10,360 Yeah. 36 00:02:10,360 --> 00:02:11,360 Absolutely. 37 00:02:11,360 --> 00:02:18,040 Did you know that the touchscreen came out, the DS's touchscreen abilities come out before 38 00:02:18,040 --> 00:02:19,040 the iPhone? 39 00:02:19,040 --> 00:02:20,040 No. 40 00:02:20,040 --> 00:02:21,040 What? 41 00:02:21,040 --> 00:02:22,040 No. 42 00:02:22,040 --> 00:02:28,600 It sets the groundwork for introducing everyone to this well of a functioning touch system. 43 00:02:28,600 --> 00:02:33,880 And if you ask me, I think it works better than some of those earlier phones that came 44 00:02:33,880 --> 00:02:35,320 out with those touch systems. 45 00:02:35,320 --> 00:02:37,040 Mind you, it comes with a stylus. 46 00:02:37,040 --> 00:02:40,480 I don't know if you've had to use it without the stylus garbage. 47 00:02:40,480 --> 00:02:41,480 Just as the worst. 48 00:02:41,480 --> 00:02:43,880 I remember it being better. 49 00:02:43,880 --> 00:02:49,000 Maybe I had smaller hands when I was younger, but I didn't even get into the system until 50 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:51,320 I was in high school. 51 00:02:51,320 --> 00:02:53,920 And so I had to be, God, I don't know. 52 00:02:53,920 --> 00:02:58,560 I don't remember if I was a sophomore or what, but either way that puts it at like, you know, 53 00:02:58,560 --> 00:03:02,640 2007, 2006 ish era. 54 00:03:02,640 --> 00:03:05,280 And this came out, I believe 2003. 55 00:03:05,280 --> 00:03:10,040 I written down, let me, let me reference my notes here real quick. 56 00:03:10,040 --> 00:03:11,040 Oh yeah. 57 00:03:11,040 --> 00:03:12,040 Please do. 58 00:03:12,040 --> 00:03:13,040 Please do. 59 00:03:13,040 --> 00:03:14,040 Came out 2004. 60 00:03:14,040 --> 00:03:17,040 Well, that's when it was revealed. 61 00:03:17,040 --> 00:03:21,960 Damn, that's crazy. 62 00:03:21,960 --> 00:03:25,800 I didn't really ever play the DS as a kid. 63 00:03:25,800 --> 00:03:29,800 Not that I can remember, but I do remember years ago. 64 00:03:29,800 --> 00:03:32,680 I think you were the one that put me onto it initially. 65 00:03:32,680 --> 00:03:33,680 For sure. 66 00:03:33,680 --> 00:03:34,680 Yeah. 67 00:03:34,680 --> 00:03:35,680 Yeah. 68 00:03:35,680 --> 00:03:36,680 I believe so. 69 00:03:36,680 --> 00:03:37,680 Yeah. 70 00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:40,040 Because I had the extra DS on top of the three DS because I was so excited when the three 71 00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:41,160 DS was coming out. 72 00:03:41,160 --> 00:03:42,160 I was so stoked. 73 00:03:42,160 --> 00:03:43,160 I remember that. 74 00:03:43,160 --> 00:03:44,160 I held off on buying it. 75 00:03:44,160 --> 00:03:51,360 I, I, I held off on buying it because I had, I, yeah, I just, I known to pay attention 76 00:03:51,360 --> 00:03:53,920 a little bit and watch what games were coming out. 77 00:03:53,920 --> 00:03:57,920 And I wasn't interested in a lot of what had been announced. 78 00:03:57,920 --> 00:04:04,120 And honestly throughout its entire, throughout its catalog, there isn't a game that really, 79 00:04:04,120 --> 00:04:10,840 there's a few that feel like the DS light title or DS, sorry, title. 80 00:04:10,840 --> 00:04:17,600 But it's, that's that, I know you played it, the Friday, the Friday, the Friday monsters, 81 00:04:17,600 --> 00:04:18,840 attack of the Friday monsters. 82 00:04:18,840 --> 00:04:21,280 Do you know what I'm talking about? 83 00:04:21,280 --> 00:04:23,000 It does, it does ring a bell. 84 00:04:23,000 --> 00:04:28,000 It has kind of a, almost like a studio Ghibli feel to it. 85 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:31,920 Studio Ghibli means fully coolie is what I would almost call it. 86 00:04:31,920 --> 00:04:37,440 And it's like an adventure game as where you collect things and you progress forward. 87 00:04:37,440 --> 00:04:38,440 Yeah. 88 00:04:38,440 --> 00:04:45,520 I, you know, I'm looking at artwork for it and it definitely reminiscent of Ghibli art 89 00:04:45,520 --> 00:04:46,520 for sure. 90 00:04:46,520 --> 00:04:49,080 It does ring a vague bell. 91 00:04:49,080 --> 00:04:55,280 I don't, I, if I did play it, I definitely didn't get very far, but it looks familiar. 92 00:04:55,280 --> 00:05:04,440 I believe I somewhat skipped of the introductions of, I also, I, as in order to bribe Ed into 93 00:05:04,440 --> 00:05:09,240 doing this podcast, I like, I got him a DS. 94 00:05:09,240 --> 00:05:16,560 What would you, what would you normally be playing if it wasn't a DS being forced upon? 95 00:05:16,560 --> 00:05:19,600 Like what am I just currently playing now aside from the DS? 96 00:05:19,600 --> 00:05:20,600 Yeah, sure. 97 00:05:20,600 --> 00:05:22,080 Yeah, let's start there. 98 00:05:22,080 --> 00:05:23,080 Oh, okay. 99 00:05:23,080 --> 00:05:24,080 Yeah, right. 100 00:05:24,080 --> 00:05:29,320 So a mild plethora of PC titles. 101 00:05:29,320 --> 00:05:33,000 Obviously Hogwarts just came out not too long ago. 102 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:34,760 But like last week. 103 00:05:34,760 --> 00:05:35,760 Yeah. 104 00:05:35,760 --> 00:05:39,600 So trying to be a good wizard boy for sure. 105 00:05:39,600 --> 00:05:43,360 CSGO occasionally, Valorant occasionally. 106 00:05:43,360 --> 00:05:48,760 I'm trying to think of what else I was really sinking time into a couple of play tests that 107 00:05:48,760 --> 00:05:52,280 are going on and off on Steam here and there. 108 00:05:52,280 --> 00:06:00,040 What would you say your, give me like a top, top five to 10 favorite game? 109 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:01,040 All time or current? 110 00:06:01,040 --> 00:06:02,040 All time. 111 00:06:02,040 --> 00:06:05,320 Oh, that's a fun, I mean, let's go all time. 112 00:06:05,320 --> 00:06:07,240 Just throw out like 10 of your favorites. 113 00:06:07,240 --> 00:06:08,240 Yeah. 114 00:06:08,240 --> 00:06:09,240 All right. 115 00:06:09,240 --> 00:06:10,240 Okay. 116 00:06:10,240 --> 00:06:11,240 All right. 117 00:06:11,240 --> 00:06:13,840 Well, Majora's Mask obviously also going to be in that list for sure all day. 118 00:06:13,840 --> 00:06:16,400 Spattering of Final Fantasy titles. 119 00:06:16,400 --> 00:06:21,240 Big fan of one and two for sure. 120 00:06:21,240 --> 00:06:24,600 Seven, obviously a classic. 121 00:06:24,600 --> 00:06:27,880 Honestly not one of my favorites to play through, but I do enjoy it. 122 00:06:27,880 --> 00:06:28,880 It is a fun game. 123 00:06:28,880 --> 00:06:32,560 And I didn't play a lot of the other titles. 124 00:06:32,560 --> 00:06:35,400 Tactics, big fan of Tactics. 125 00:06:35,400 --> 00:06:36,400 Great one. 126 00:06:36,400 --> 00:06:37,640 That's so funny that you mentioned that. 127 00:06:37,640 --> 00:06:40,000 That is, yeah. 128 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:41,360 I have trouble getting it. 129 00:06:41,360 --> 00:06:43,240 I've always wanted to get into Tactics. 130 00:06:43,240 --> 00:06:46,800 I just always have an issue getting into Tactics. 131 00:06:46,800 --> 00:06:49,840 Now see, I couldn't get back into it now. 132 00:06:49,840 --> 00:06:53,280 And that's mostly just because I just feel like I don't have the attention span. 133 00:06:53,280 --> 00:06:58,560 Like when I have time to play, like I'm in full blown immersion or it's pick up and put 134 00:06:58,560 --> 00:07:00,200 away. 135 00:07:00,200 --> 00:07:03,240 And so the DS is kind of hitting that pick up and put away time slot. 136 00:07:03,240 --> 00:07:08,480 But my sit down full blown, like Jess is working overnight shift. 137 00:07:08,480 --> 00:07:11,160 I can actually put some serious time into something. 138 00:07:11,160 --> 00:07:16,000 I want to sit down and bust into something super immersive, like a Hogwarts title on 139 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:17,000 PC. 140 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:20,460 You know, something that I can really grab by the balls. 141 00:07:20,460 --> 00:07:25,760 So I kind of struggle with like RTS strategy games for the, well, I guess it's not RTS 142 00:07:25,760 --> 00:07:26,760 at all. 143 00:07:26,760 --> 00:07:28,400 Turn based strategy games for that reason. 144 00:07:28,400 --> 00:07:31,760 Cause I was always a big fan of Fire Emblem 2. 145 00:07:31,760 --> 00:07:37,040 Well, I was going to say, I would think Age of Empires probably makes your top 10 list. 146 00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:38,520 You kind of, you enjoy that. 147 00:07:38,520 --> 00:07:44,680 Age of Empires specifically, Age of Empires 2 for sure. 148 00:07:44,680 --> 00:07:45,680 Yeah. 149 00:07:45,680 --> 00:07:52,480 I still, I still get down on that on occasion with my brothers and even sometimes Justin, 150 00:07:52,480 --> 00:07:55,160 who's Michael's college roommate. 151 00:07:55,160 --> 00:07:56,800 Right. 152 00:07:56,800 --> 00:07:58,600 And we'll go pretty hard at that. 153 00:07:58,600 --> 00:08:02,920 I played, I played, I had a lot of RTS games growing up on the PC. 154 00:08:02,920 --> 00:08:09,600 I don't even know if my dad played many RTS games, but we had like five of them at least. 155 00:08:09,600 --> 00:08:10,600 Sure. 156 00:08:10,600 --> 00:08:14,960 I played a lot of some of them Armageddon, Armageddon 2. 157 00:08:14,960 --> 00:08:17,440 So no, Total Annihilation 2. 158 00:08:17,440 --> 00:08:18,440 Oh, okay. 159 00:08:18,440 --> 00:08:20,520 That's what I played a lot of. 160 00:08:20,520 --> 00:08:21,520 I gotcha. 161 00:08:21,520 --> 00:08:24,200 I don't think I ever played Total Annihilation games. 162 00:08:24,200 --> 00:08:26,280 Just too much, too much pressure, man. 163 00:08:26,280 --> 00:08:27,280 Yeah. 164 00:08:27,280 --> 00:08:30,200 No, I, I, I definitely get that. 165 00:08:30,200 --> 00:08:38,320 And you know, I even only ever really play AOE 2 for the nostalgia and mostly because 166 00:08:38,320 --> 00:08:45,080 I just, I have, we have really high tier strategy gameplay, just muscle memory at this point. 167 00:08:45,080 --> 00:08:49,600 So the only thing you're really trying to do is make sure you don't forget to click 168 00:08:49,600 --> 00:08:53,200 us, you know, hit a click or something like that. 169 00:08:53,200 --> 00:08:58,320 Coming into a newer RTS like that, I struggle because I have to relearn how the mechanics 170 00:08:58,320 --> 00:09:02,400 work and what the, what it is that I'm trying to macro. 171 00:09:02,400 --> 00:09:03,400 Yeah. 172 00:09:03,400 --> 00:09:04,400 I don't have the patience for it. 173 00:09:04,400 --> 00:09:08,200 You're trying to figure out the strategy instead of actually playing the game. 174 00:09:08,200 --> 00:09:09,200 Yeah. 175 00:09:09,200 --> 00:09:10,200 Right. 176 00:09:10,200 --> 00:09:14,760 So, and I, so I struggle with something like that anymore, but AOE 2 would still be on 177 00:09:14,760 --> 00:09:15,760 that list for sure. 178 00:09:15,760 --> 00:09:18,760 Put you on the spot. 179 00:09:18,760 --> 00:09:19,760 Yeah. 180 00:09:19,760 --> 00:09:20,760 Yeah, you really did. 181 00:09:20,760 --> 00:09:21,880 Now I've got to actually like branch out. 182 00:09:21,880 --> 00:09:26,160 I was in, I was in total DS mode in terms of my headspace. 183 00:09:26,160 --> 00:09:27,160 I'll give you some of mine. 184 00:09:27,160 --> 00:09:30,920 I'll dig into some of mine to help you think about. 185 00:09:30,920 --> 00:09:36,640 So I have to put Half-Life 1 is definitely near the top of that list. 186 00:09:36,640 --> 00:09:37,640 Oh. 187 00:09:37,640 --> 00:09:38,640 Like that's just that game. 188 00:09:38,640 --> 00:09:39,640 Immediately embarrassed. 189 00:09:39,640 --> 00:09:40,640 I should not have left that out. 190 00:09:40,640 --> 00:09:42,020 Almost like an album. 191 00:09:42,020 --> 00:09:45,680 You know, it has to be something to me that I can play again and again. 192 00:09:45,680 --> 00:09:49,660 At the same time, I would put up Judge Dredd versus Death. 193 00:09:49,660 --> 00:09:51,760 Is that what that game is called? 194 00:09:51,760 --> 00:09:52,760 You're talking about the GameCube title? 195 00:09:52,760 --> 00:09:53,760 Yeah, the GameCube. 196 00:09:53,760 --> 00:09:56,520 I think it's on other consoles too, but yes, the GameCube title. 197 00:09:56,520 --> 00:09:58,520 Yeah, you're probably right. 198 00:09:58,520 --> 00:09:59,520 Yeah. 199 00:09:59,520 --> 00:10:03,440 Not a great game, but absolutely one that once again, I have played it through so many 200 00:10:03,440 --> 00:10:06,360 times and I can play it through again and again. 201 00:10:06,360 --> 00:10:07,360 Excellent game. 202 00:10:07,360 --> 00:10:09,440 Counter-Strike has to go on that list. 203 00:10:09,440 --> 00:10:13,200 But I mean, that's one that's like, do I enjoy that or is that an addiction? 204 00:10:13,200 --> 00:10:15,960 I think that's more on the edge. 205 00:10:15,960 --> 00:10:16,960 And I don't even do. 206 00:10:16,960 --> 00:10:18,960 It's not even a game that I like to play. 207 00:10:18,960 --> 00:10:20,920 It's not even the crates that I like to play. 208 00:10:20,920 --> 00:10:23,960 Sometimes you're like, I just want a toxic experience. 209 00:10:23,960 --> 00:10:30,520 The social aspect of it is equally addictive, I would say. 210 00:10:30,520 --> 00:10:35,320 Yeah, because sometimes you get addicted to a game and that's rewarding too. 211 00:10:35,320 --> 00:10:36,320 Yeah. 212 00:10:36,320 --> 00:10:37,320 Yeah. 213 00:10:37,320 --> 00:10:41,720 And there's quite a shitload of nostalgia packed into that as well. 214 00:10:41,720 --> 00:10:47,360 I also would put King's Quest, specifically King's Quest 6 on there. 215 00:10:47,360 --> 00:10:48,360 Okay. 216 00:10:48,360 --> 00:10:51,680 If you ever played any of the King's Quest games. 217 00:10:51,680 --> 00:10:55,640 That's another series I've never played. 218 00:10:55,640 --> 00:10:57,800 I've heard good things though. 219 00:10:57,800 --> 00:10:58,800 It's Sierra. 220 00:10:58,800 --> 00:11:02,000 I don't know what the other... 221 00:11:02,000 --> 00:11:06,480 But they did, they put out Half-Life actually as well. 222 00:11:06,480 --> 00:11:07,480 What? 223 00:11:07,480 --> 00:11:10,800 But it's totally different from Sierra Entertainment. 224 00:11:10,800 --> 00:11:13,920 Is that what it is maybe? 225 00:11:13,920 --> 00:11:17,520 They put out Monkey's Island. 226 00:11:17,520 --> 00:11:18,520 Oh, okay. 227 00:11:18,520 --> 00:11:22,520 Well, there's point and click adventure type games where if you miss one thing way down 228 00:11:22,520 --> 00:11:26,440 the line, it's going to totally just fuck your day up. 229 00:11:26,440 --> 00:11:27,440 Yeah. 230 00:11:27,440 --> 00:11:30,120 Yeah, that's King's Quest, absolutely. 231 00:11:30,120 --> 00:11:31,120 Cool. 232 00:11:31,120 --> 00:11:34,920 But that's one of those games that just... 233 00:11:34,920 --> 00:11:39,280 The lore and the storytelling is just incredible. 234 00:11:39,280 --> 00:11:43,000 I played that game at a young age, so it just sucked me in. 235 00:11:43,000 --> 00:11:50,120 And then you have to think of Pokemon Silver and before that. 236 00:11:50,120 --> 00:11:53,160 Yellow, the yellow I don't have it for. 237 00:11:53,160 --> 00:11:54,160 Yellow is fine. 238 00:11:54,160 --> 00:11:56,120 I would play yellow, I guess. 239 00:11:56,120 --> 00:12:01,920 But blue, red, silver, gold, diamond. 240 00:12:01,920 --> 00:12:04,400 Those games, just the... 241 00:12:04,400 --> 00:12:09,080 We were discussing the other day, the ability to when you're playing a game that doesn't 242 00:12:09,080 --> 00:12:15,320 have the best graphics, your imagination that immediately comes out and then makes you feel 243 00:12:15,320 --> 00:12:17,440 like a kid again. 244 00:12:17,440 --> 00:12:18,440 Absolutely. 245 00:12:18,440 --> 00:12:21,960 That is Pokemon, 100%. 246 00:12:21,960 --> 00:12:29,320 Man, hearing you talk about some of these games really has my brain working overtime. 247 00:12:29,320 --> 00:12:34,360 And I've got two titles in the same veins of your last two here. 248 00:12:34,360 --> 00:12:37,000 I'm going to probably chuck Myst in there. 249 00:12:37,000 --> 00:12:39,000 Okay, yes, absolutely. 250 00:12:39,000 --> 00:12:41,560 Myst put me on... 251 00:12:41,560 --> 00:12:48,040 It's one of those that I picked up and dropped fairly early on, once or twice that I tried 252 00:12:48,040 --> 00:12:49,320 to pick it up and play it. 253 00:12:49,320 --> 00:12:52,640 And the first time it wasn't something I had access to. 254 00:12:52,640 --> 00:12:56,720 I think maybe somebody had it loaded on their system, a friend's house or something. 255 00:12:56,720 --> 00:12:58,280 And I got to try it out for a couple minutes. 256 00:12:58,280 --> 00:12:59,600 I was like, well, this looks kind of cool. 257 00:12:59,600 --> 00:13:04,120 And then never got to touch it again until I was older. 258 00:13:04,120 --> 00:13:15,160 And then at some point, I picked it up and I got to the suspended forest fort place. 259 00:13:15,160 --> 00:13:20,560 And that is notoriously one of the most dog shit fucking puzzles you have to do in a video 260 00:13:20,560 --> 00:13:21,560 game. 261 00:13:21,560 --> 00:13:23,240 And I remember not making it past that. 262 00:13:23,240 --> 00:13:26,920 And then I picked it up at some point with a year or two ago and just sat down. 263 00:13:26,920 --> 00:13:29,400 I played through almost the entire thing in a single state. 264 00:13:29,400 --> 00:13:35,040 And it was...I just went ham and I could not get enough of it. 265 00:13:35,040 --> 00:13:39,600 I remember having such a fear of that game. 266 00:13:39,600 --> 00:13:45,480 I had a nightmare as a kid that was...in my brain, I remember thinking that I had had 267 00:13:45,480 --> 00:13:46,680 the nightmare. 268 00:13:46,680 --> 00:13:51,280 And then this is back when you'd be walking through Shopko or wherever and they would 269 00:13:51,280 --> 00:13:55,720 have the PC titles and the big boxes in an aisle. 270 00:13:55,720 --> 00:14:00,000 I remember seeing that cover and being like, Dad, that was the dream. 271 00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:03,160 That was the dream that had me crying the other night. 272 00:14:03,160 --> 00:14:05,400 And that was it right there. 273 00:14:05,400 --> 00:14:06,960 And they don't make any sense. 274 00:14:06,960 --> 00:14:09,920 But that was where it happened at. 275 00:14:09,920 --> 00:14:14,200 And obviously I'd seen some kind of ad or something before it to put it in my head. 276 00:14:14,200 --> 00:14:19,920 But then I had that on the DS because there's mist on the DS. 277 00:14:19,920 --> 00:14:21,960 And because I wanted to get into that. 278 00:14:21,960 --> 00:14:23,360 And that game, yeah, the puzzles. 279 00:14:23,360 --> 00:14:26,080 I think I got to the exact same spot that you were talking about. 280 00:14:26,080 --> 00:14:28,360 I was just like, no, I'm done here. 281 00:14:28,360 --> 00:14:30,720 I can't I cannot figure this out. 282 00:14:30,720 --> 00:14:35,040 I didn't even think to put up a snacks or anything. 283 00:14:35,040 --> 00:14:37,120 Yeah, that's definitely an option. 284 00:14:37,120 --> 00:14:42,320 And no lie, I did not make it fully through mist unassisted. 285 00:14:42,320 --> 00:14:48,000 Yeah, I wish I could claim that, but I will never ever claim to be good at games. 286 00:14:48,000 --> 00:14:54,880 I if I can make it through a game without looking something up, that is it's a pretty easy game. 287 00:14:54,880 --> 00:15:00,520 You know, Titanfall, too, like the last game I can think of that I made it through without a walkthrough. 288 00:15:00,520 --> 00:15:04,120 Any FPS I can probably make it through a walkthrough. 289 00:15:04,120 --> 00:15:08,360 Dude, I use I use rune light for runescape. 290 00:15:08,360 --> 00:15:16,480 So I'm using the shit out of the blue solver overlays to do my slide puzzles and shit. 291 00:15:16,480 --> 00:15:18,520 Oh, yeah, I don't have time for that. 292 00:15:18,520 --> 00:15:23,320 I guess runescape has to go up there and favorites, you know, what was the addiction or favorite? 293 00:15:23,320 --> 00:15:24,880 I don't know. I don't know. 294 00:15:24,880 --> 00:15:26,320 She's did. I don't. 295 00:15:26,320 --> 00:15:30,600 I think that's more of a favorite than it is an addiction to me. 296 00:15:30,600 --> 00:15:31,520 I think so. 297 00:15:31,520 --> 00:15:34,720 I've been listening to a lot of nostalgia. 298 00:15:34,720 --> 00:15:42,280 Well, and that's something that you and I've talked a lot about lately is is the power of nostalgia when it comes to being a gamer. 299 00:15:42,280 --> 00:15:50,280 Yeah, but and we don't have to we don't have to totally delve into that now, but like it is it is just a recurring theme that just keeps coming up over and over again. 300 00:15:50,280 --> 00:15:51,840 I mean, what are we doing right now? 301 00:15:51,840 --> 00:15:54,600 And that is the DS came out in 2003. 302 00:15:54,600 --> 00:15:57,280 That's we're coming up on 20 years. 303 00:15:57,280 --> 00:16:01,040 Oh, yeah, we're nearly at 20 years. 304 00:16:01,040 --> 00:16:02,680 So at least it was a now. 305 00:16:02,680 --> 00:16:08,400 I don't know when exactly we'll leave, but either way, we're coming up on I could backtrack it 20 years. 306 00:16:08,400 --> 00:16:09,520 Right. 307 00:16:09,520 --> 00:16:15,440 Sure. And that's I mean, I think that's about the point where you could say nostalgia. 308 00:16:15,440 --> 00:16:19,200 It's so funny because that's not very true, but that's kind of retro. 309 00:16:19,200 --> 00:16:25,480 That's that's playing that's playing Atari and instead of your Super Nintendo. 310 00:16:25,480 --> 00:16:33,400 Yeah, and yeah, and I think the bridge between what's retro and what's not is that gap. 311 00:16:33,400 --> 00:16:39,640 Right. It is ever getting smaller just with how frequently newer and newer systems are coming out. 312 00:16:39,640 --> 00:16:46,040 I mean, at some point, obviously, like the PS5 and the newest Xbox will be, quote unquote, retro. 313 00:16:46,040 --> 00:16:48,560 Yeah, absolutely. 314 00:16:48,560 --> 00:16:54,280 But I almost feel like to really for those to be retro, they either have to be made obsolete through the 315 00:16:54,280 --> 00:17:01,840 on allowance of backward compatibility by current consoles or will have made some kind of exponential leap in gaming. 316 00:17:01,840 --> 00:17:06,960 But there's an Atari collection on the absolutely on the switch. 317 00:17:06,960 --> 00:17:11,160 So then in that sense, that is a retro. 318 00:17:11,160 --> 00:17:17,080 That's a really good point, too, because I also I now that I've said all that and made a big 319 00:17:17,080 --> 00:17:21,000 to do, I'm starting to break it down in my own head and realize, well, 320 00:17:21,000 --> 00:17:25,040 you know, because they you can buy a pixel game that was made yesterday. 321 00:17:25,040 --> 00:17:29,680 Like, yeah, absolutely. 322 00:17:29,680 --> 00:17:33,280 So I believe we've covered our grounds of what some favorites are. 323 00:17:33,280 --> 00:17:37,840 So I'm taking that segue into the DS. 324 00:17:37,840 --> 00:17:41,720 So pixel games are being made for everything right now. 325 00:17:41,720 --> 00:17:43,720 Like, I mean, just modern consoles. 326 00:17:43,720 --> 00:17:50,040 You've got homebrew coming out for Gameboy Advance, Gameboy Color, the original Gameboy, Nintendo. 327 00:17:50,040 --> 00:17:53,320 They're they're they're modding the games or making new games. 328 00:17:53,320 --> 00:17:58,600 There's nothing coming out for the DS, which is blowing my mind, because, like we said earlier, 329 00:17:58,600 --> 00:18:02,160 it's the developer system. Right. 330 00:18:02,160 --> 00:18:06,960 So if I'm wanting to learn how to write for anything, I would think that this would be like a go to. 331 00:18:06,960 --> 00:18:12,640 I have heard that the Gameboy is the easiest thing to learn to write for. 332 00:18:12,640 --> 00:18:20,920 I believe I believe because what happens is you can you count Gameboy and Gameboy Color as a single library. 333 00:18:20,920 --> 00:18:25,000 And I do believe that triumphs the DS. 334 00:18:25,000 --> 00:18:29,200 Eighteen hundred games on the DS, I think, is what I saw around roughly. 335 00:18:29,200 --> 00:18:34,600 I'm sure that that's a it's so funny and so interesting to me that that is argumentive, 336 00:18:34,600 --> 00:18:39,320 like that you can argue how many titles and like every console has. 337 00:18:39,320 --> 00:18:45,000 I did run into this before I even had the idea for the DS podcast. 338 00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:50,640 I was playing I was getting into the Garfield catalog. 339 00:18:50,640 --> 00:18:53,160 Interesting. Oh, OK. 340 00:18:53,160 --> 00:18:56,280 Not not a great catalog. 341 00:18:56,280 --> 00:19:03,640 I recently saw the triple jump on YouTube does a lot of interesting video game lists 342 00:19:03,640 --> 00:19:10,280 and they'll rank all of from best to worst, all of their games are from worst to best, whatever. 343 00:19:10,280 --> 00:19:19,000 And they did the Garfield video game and near the top five was in the top five was the game. 344 00:19:19,000 --> 00:19:22,440 I first played Garfield's Nightmare, which is 345 00:19:22,440 --> 00:19:26,440 if you're looking for something to play to go to bed. 346 00:19:26,440 --> 00:19:29,640 And I mean that in the nicest, best way possible. 347 00:19:29,640 --> 00:19:31,640 This is the best game for it. 348 00:19:31,640 --> 00:19:35,400 It is the most basic platformer. 349 00:19:35,400 --> 00:19:37,960 The controls are the controls are all right. 350 00:19:37,960 --> 00:19:41,560 Everything about the game is so just above mediocre. 351 00:19:41,560 --> 00:19:46,840 Like if it was mediocre, you know, like when something's mediocre, you just kind of hate it more. 352 00:19:46,840 --> 00:19:48,600 You wish it would have been bad. 353 00:19:48,600 --> 00:19:53,880 This one must be just above mediocre because you enjoy it just enough for you to be like, 354 00:19:53,880 --> 00:19:56,280 I'm going to I'm passing out. 355 00:19:56,280 --> 00:20:00,520 It's like playing Bejeweled or Puzzle Quest or something like that. 356 00:20:00,520 --> 00:20:02,600 OK, all right. I'm picking up what you went down. 357 00:20:02,600 --> 00:20:09,800 Where I was going with this, though, is there is a Tale of Two Kitties and Garfield Two, I think. 358 00:20:09,800 --> 00:20:13,320 Two titles. One, I believe, is Europe. 359 00:20:13,320 --> 00:20:16,520 One one is PAL and one is US. 360 00:20:16,520 --> 00:20:23,320 And they are the same game, the exact same game, two different games. 361 00:20:23,320 --> 00:20:26,760 So I guess that's where that argument comes up of how many games. 362 00:20:26,760 --> 00:20:32,360 Gotcha. Are you counting titles or titles with unique titles? 363 00:20:32,360 --> 00:20:33,400 Yeah. 364 00:20:33,400 --> 00:20:34,120 Yeah. 365 00:20:34,120 --> 00:20:36,760 And I'm sure there's many other ways. 366 00:20:36,760 --> 00:20:44,120 So I basically with the with the catalog that we had access to, I didn't go through and do a count. 367 00:20:44,120 --> 00:20:51,080 But we played a similar catalog and. 368 00:20:51,080 --> 00:20:54,120 I'm just we had two weeks kind of go through. 369 00:20:54,120 --> 00:21:00,200 First of all, I was surprised by I don't know if it would just happen to be a tiring two weeks. 370 00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:05,880 We did a bit of projects around the house, but I did not get nearly as much time into the DS 371 00:21:05,880 --> 00:21:10,120 as I thought I would, which is funny because that is the convenience of it, 372 00:21:10,120 --> 00:21:12,280 is how much time you can just sneak into it. 373 00:21:12,280 --> 00:21:13,720 Don't even talk to me about that. 374 00:21:13,720 --> 00:21:19,960 I too suffer from the same issue and I have this little digital notebook with buttons on it in my pocket. 375 00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:23,160 That takes all of my pocket. 376 00:21:23,160 --> 00:21:23,960 Yeah. 377 00:21:23,960 --> 00:21:29,880 Yeah. Well, and I've been getting dirty looks every time I open up. 378 00:21:29,880 --> 00:21:30,760 We were at breakfast. 379 00:21:32,280 --> 00:21:35,640 We were at breakfast and I didn't have mine with me. 380 00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:38,600 That's the only reason you were upset. 381 00:21:38,600 --> 00:21:41,240 Let's be honest, is because you didn't think to bring yours to the restaurant. 382 00:21:41,240 --> 00:21:44,920 Because I thought about it, I have a child, so I can't I can't be a hero. 383 00:21:46,200 --> 00:21:47,400 I hate to blame him. 384 00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:51,400 I hate to blame him, but the LB isn't working on my on my DS. 385 00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:54,840 This thing I said I've had since I was like 15. 386 00:21:54,840 --> 00:21:56,360 So it's just. 387 00:21:56,360 --> 00:21:57,960 That is upsetting to hear. 388 00:21:57,960 --> 00:21:59,480 It could be just from wear and tear. 389 00:22:00,120 --> 00:22:04,360 So what have you been what have you been playing on? 390 00:22:04,360 --> 00:22:08,120 So no lie, I've tried to kind of just dabble, 391 00:22:08,120 --> 00:22:10,680 put a couple of minutes into a handful of different titles. 392 00:22:10,680 --> 00:22:16,200 But the one I definitely keep coming back to that I absolutely having so much fun with is 393 00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:19,000 the Dawn of Sorrow Castlevania game. 394 00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:27,160 I think you and I talked a little bit about this beforehand, but I never really ever played a 395 00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:28,760 Castlevania game ever. 396 00:22:28,760 --> 00:22:31,160 I always thought they were so cool. 397 00:22:31,160 --> 00:22:35,320 And I remember growing up seeing the artwork and in various magazines and whatnot thinking, 398 00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:36,840 Damn, that looks so cool. 399 00:22:36,840 --> 00:22:40,920 No way in hell I was ever allowed to ever play one. 400 00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:46,280 And I just I just never had really any focus in that IP. 401 00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:50,520 You know, after I got older and could do kind of whatever I wanted. 402 00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:51,640 So I just never really got into it. 403 00:22:51,640 --> 00:22:56,600 Kind of the same unfortunate reality for me with Pokemon, but solid platformer, 404 00:22:56,600 --> 00:22:59,880 cool mechanics, insanely amazing and beautiful artwork. 405 00:22:59,880 --> 00:23:04,680 I was going to say a slight underutilization of the touch screen. 406 00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:11,640 But I think if it I think if the touch screen played a more core role in the mechanics that 407 00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:14,120 might piss me off and I'd probably want to play a lot less. 408 00:23:14,120 --> 00:23:14,840 Yeah. 409 00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:21,160 At present, you just unlock these symbols essentially that allow you to unlock doors. 410 00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:26,280 And, you know, when prompted, input the pattern through the screen. 411 00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:31,560 Although I've noticed that it seems if you just don't, the game will immediately or just 412 00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:34,920 eventually draw it for you so you don't have to unsheath your stylus. 413 00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:36,920 So yeah. 414 00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:38,520 That's one way you could just use your finger. 415 00:23:38,520 --> 00:23:40,200 You don't even need the stylus for that. 416 00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:41,240 Absolutely. 417 00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:48,920 Because I've taken I played Portrait of Rune was I think my first Castlevania title also 418 00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:49,720 on the DS. 419 00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:52,680 And that same way sucked me in. 420 00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:56,600 And I think it has the same mechanic. 421 00:23:56,600 --> 00:23:59,960 I think you barely, barely use it. 422 00:23:59,960 --> 00:24:03,000 And it's you can, you know, is the menu down there? 423 00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:06,440 Maybe maybe you can use the menu, but I don't even think that's it. 424 00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:08,200 I think stats are displayed down there. 425 00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:09,560 Yeah. 426 00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:16,520 So the the game place or excuse me, the game play actually takes place on the bottom screen. 427 00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:18,280 And then up top, you have like a menu. 428 00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:19,240 Right. 429 00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:19,480 Okay. 430 00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:22,200 But you know, now that I've said that that's the only use of the stylus, 431 00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:25,240 I had forgotten that I progressed a little bit further somewhat recently. 432 00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:33,480 And get to the point where essentially I have now have the ability to destroy certain blocks 433 00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:35,720 using the stylus. 434 00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:36,280 So I forgot. 435 00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:40,920 Again, it's still such a very simple mechanic. 436 00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:44,680 You basically get on a floating platform and it carries you over this pit. 437 00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:49,000 And then there are blocks that would otherwise push you off of the moving pedestal. 438 00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:53,560 And you have to quickly scratch back and forth on the stylus to delete the blocks. 439 00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:54,440 Because it tries to trick you. 440 00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:59,720 There's only one stream of blocks and then it's and then it's, you know, then it's three, three deep. 441 00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:01,560 And if you're not constantly drawn, you get pushed off. 442 00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:02,920 And then at the last minute, you have to duck. 443 00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:04,920 That adds in a bit there. 444 00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:05,720 It does. 445 00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:06,920 It definitely. 446 00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:09,960 Yeah, it's kind of a cute little mechanic. 447 00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:13,480 Yeah, I'm sure they'll introduce additional little pieces like that. 448 00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:14,280 Maybe we'll see. 449 00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:23,640 So if you didn't play and I don't think it was in our catalog, the any of the Zelda games on the DS, 450 00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:31,720 I think when you borrowed it, because this is now this is referencing back Ed and I moved here together 10 years ago. 451 00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:34,600 No, no, not 2014. 452 00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:36,440 Almost, almost 2014. 453 00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:39,080 It's like July 2014. 454 00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:43,800 OK, so been a while since you had played through it back then. 455 00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:44,440 Did you play? 456 00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:46,840 Do you remember playing Zelda on the DS? 457 00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:48,520 I do remember. 458 00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:51,000 Is it the Phantom Hourglass? 459 00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:52,120 Phantom Hourglass. 460 00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:53,960 Yeah, I do. 461 00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:55,960 I remember not beating it. 462 00:25:57,240 --> 00:25:58,840 What a fun game. 463 00:25:58,840 --> 00:26:02,040 And I disagree. 464 00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:03,160 So what? 465 00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:03,640 Really? 466 00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:04,520 I beat that game. 467 00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:13,640 I remember just because you don't control him whatsoever with the D pad or any control. 468 00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:16,840 Sticks, you use the stylus to move link around. 469 00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:20,200 You use the stylus to swing your your sword. 470 00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:22,440 I don't like that control at all. 471 00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:29,240 It's the same to me as having the forward button being accelerate in a recent game. 472 00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:30,200 It was. 473 00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:35,480 I don't mind the stylus controls. 474 00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:42,440 What I really prefer is when you can play the game without or with the stylus. 475 00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:44,680 When that's the option present. 476 00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:47,080 And once again, I don't mind when it's filtered in there. 477 00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:51,400 There are a few exceptions to the rule, of course. 478 00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:56,760 But no, I'm really surprised to hear that because I did not. 479 00:26:58,440 --> 00:27:04,840 So I would definitely have to go back and play it again to make sure that my assessment of what I recall. 480 00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:10,680 I do wonder if you're thinking of a link between worlds. 481 00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:13,800 A link between worlds with 3DS. 482 00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:14,840 That was really good. 483 00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:17,240 Yeah, I do remember that one as well. 484 00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:19,000 Very much amazing. 485 00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:26,520 The specific gameplay that I recall playing through definitely Phantom Hourglass. 486 00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:28,280 Yeah, and you have that. 487 00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:34,440 There's the dungeon that you have to continue to go back to and go further and further down. 488 00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:36,600 But you have to go back to your old steps. 489 00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:40,280 And I know that I'm not alone in these thoughts. 490 00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:42,280 I believe that. 491 00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:44,280 I hate that. 492 00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:54,280 I want to say that what I remember is that it felt very cumbersome and clunky and difficult to be precise in your inputs. 493 00:27:54,280 --> 00:28:03,000 But I feel like I remember coming to the conclusion or realization to treat it more like Wii controls. 494 00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:15,720 At which point getting the input strokes on the stylus felt less cumbersome just because I was a little bit more fluid with it. 495 00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:23,400 And it kind of removed the need for what I thought was specificity in how I'm writing these inputs. 496 00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:27,880 And it just kind of almost like the cursive version of a stylus input. 497 00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:30,520 For me that seemed to work. 498 00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:34,360 Now I could be complete bullshit and made it all just up on the spot. 499 00:28:34,360 --> 00:28:36,120 But that's how I feel like I remember it. 500 00:28:36,120 --> 00:28:38,520 And I feel like I enjoyed the game. 501 00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:43,320 But I also can't think of what the reason was I never finished it. 502 00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:45,560 But I'm also notorious for not finishing games. 503 00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:48,120 Like I never finished Breath of the Wild. 504 00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:50,760 I literally just hate to beat games. 505 00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:53,400 I think that once again I'm at the exact same spot. 506 00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:54,600 Just got to beat games. 507 00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:56,440 But I think a lot of people have. 508 00:28:56,440 --> 00:28:58,280 I think that that's a common thing. 509 00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:01,080 I hate finishing games dude. 510 00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:03,080 Sucks. 511 00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:10,120 There are a few others that really focus on stylus controls that just bother me terribly. 512 00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:13,880 IvyBikimi is one of them. 513 00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:20,680 You see a lot of these platformers that rely on you like drawing a path. 514 00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:23,880 You see this in Kirby's Canvas Curse. 515 00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:25,960 Something along those lines is the name. 516 00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:32,920 Kirby's a ball and you have to draw the road for him and the ramps and all this. 517 00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:35,400 And you can touch him to get him boost. 518 00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:37,800 And it's just I don't know. 519 00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:46,280 There's just something about really heavy touch controls I don't like until you get to a title like The World Ends With You. 520 00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:53,400 And that goes also in my top 10 all time favorite games. 521 00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:56,920 Not DS titles but just all time favorites. 522 00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:00,360 And I remember we discussed it a little bit. 523 00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:10,680 And if you have not played this game the way to describe these controls is that you have almost like really 524 00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:27,480 simple-ized directional only commands that are like a fighting game like left left down right right up certain different combos that you're using to control in a battle on the top screen. 525 00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:40,760 But at the same time you have a battle going on on your bottom screen and you have different signatures or symbols to draw that will attack the enemies on the bottom screen. 526 00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:44,120 And you move that person by moving your stylus around. 527 00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:51,240 First it's extremely chaotic and it feels impossible to stay caught up with. 528 00:30:51,240 --> 00:31:00,360 The game is a bit forgiving. It will let you continue to retry these battles and I do believe it will make them easier for you after a while. 529 00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:02,360 And then you can progress on. 530 00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:07,000 The problem with that of course is that then when you get to a harder boss it's going to be harder for you. 531 00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:11,560 So it's highly recommended that you actually beat them and get used to that. 532 00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:19,240 But once you get used to those inputs and that's to be said with a lot of these games is it just becomes so fluid. 533 00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:27,880 And I feel the immersion and I get immersed in the DS. 534 00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:31,400 Hotel Dusk I know that you kind of touched on that. 535 00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:38,920 Yeah I was just you know while you were talking and explaining the world ends with you I was just kind of scrolling back through the library that we're working with. 536 00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:42,920 And I scrolled back by Hotel Dusk room 215. 537 00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:51,800 I've not gotten very far but I mean since the opening sequence of it just booting the game. 538 00:31:51,800 --> 00:32:04,200 The second you launch the title and everything like you know it splashes the icon or imagery for the developer or whatever it is. 539 00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:06,760 And it's all sideways you're like what the hell. 540 00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:13,160 And then yeah and then it's like holding a book and then the game's just going and like the artwork is so unique. 541 00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:19,480 And it's such that it's this cool hand drawn stylization. 542 00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:22,360 You get all this pencil scratchy sounds. 543 00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:26,440 It's a comfortable it's a comfortable feel. 544 00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:29,480 The soundtrack is fantastic. 545 00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:33,640 Yeah it's I think the struggle that I have. 546 00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:42,680 You hear me say throughout this podcast that I dislike touch controls or the unique the. 547 00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:44,680 What's the word I'm looking for here. 548 00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:53,880 They were they're playing on all these unique things you know it's kind of like a catchy oh look at my touch controls or look you can use the microphone. 549 00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:55,080 Oh the gimmicky things. 550 00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:57,560 I'll say that's a gimmicky thing that's a gimmicky thing. 551 00:32:57,560 --> 00:33:04,520 But nine times out of ten I'll end up saying in a game that we're doing I love that gimmicky thing. 552 00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:21,000 So I'm sure I'm going to eat my own words on that plenty of times because I do say it's the one thing that held the style the DS back with so many people relying on the gimmick rather than just kind of leaning into it here and there. 553 00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:23,000 Yeah I feel that. 554 00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:36,440 I know it's the basic the Chinatown Wars is a great example of you know I mean it's the it's I think I'm metacritic it's the number one DS game and it's got the perfect. 555 00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:50,600 Just it doesn't rely on it it just throws it in there here and there for fun little tiny mini games that make the game a little more immersion actually because when you go to steal a car you have to hotwire some of them. 556 00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:51,720 Right. 557 00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:57,400 So you use the stylus the hotwire the car and that's a fun little quick mini game boom boom you're in your car you're out. 558 00:33:57,400 --> 00:34:02,600 I still think it has the best way of getting rid of your stars. 559 00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:04,360 Did you play it at all. 560 00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:09,480 I haven't on the DS but I have played Chinatown Wars before. 561 00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:10,440 Right. 562 00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:14,120 Yeah it did end up coming out on a lot of different. 563 00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:17,240 It's on the phone it's on the. 564 00:34:17,240 --> 00:34:22,440 PSP I believe even but it was initially a DS only title. 565 00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:36,120 So and then that kind of brings me to the explaining kind of my idea further about this podcast being that I want to play every US release on the DS. 566 00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:47,000 And a huge you know 1800 games or so right and that maybe that's all games maybe that's not just the US games I haven't looked at the actual number. 567 00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:55,000 There's a lot of good games there's a lot of really bad games like if you go scroll through this list of all the DS game I bet there's. 568 00:34:55,000 --> 00:35:10,280 10 Disney titles and 10 Barbie titles there's just a slew of shovelware like I said gimmicky games there are games that I believe we're going to be able to get through. 569 00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:21,320 In a way less than two weeks so I am thinking for some of these and I believe that will be kind of the standard is that every two weeks the podcast will come out. 570 00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:31,320 Ideally being that we have somewhat of a community that will want to play the game at the same time that we are or something along those lines right. 571 00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:32,200 Yeah. 572 00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:40,840 Stay more current with it every two weeks there's going to be some games that are probably like my life first horses or something like. 573 00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:42,360 Yeah. 574 00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:52,760 Well while I am just making this up I do know there is something along the lines of my life and there's plenty of force game there's a baby we'll have a two weeks that are all the horse game. 575 00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:53,640 Oh dear god. 576 00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:56,440 I'll just play through a bunch of different horse games. 577 00:35:56,440 --> 00:35:59,160 Okay that'll be the hell podcast. 578 00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:09,000 So yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah there's going to be some two weeks that and then there's going to be some two weeks that we're like this wasn't even enough time to get into the game. 579 00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:10,600 Yeah. 580 00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:20,280 I am there's a lot of remakes and like almost like remasters there is. 581 00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:31,080 See if I wrote down on the list there is an insane amount of final fantasy and square enix titles. 582 00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:43,000 Oh I believe I wrote down on a games to play I kind of made a list here to reference as games to play games I'm curious about and old favorites. 583 00:36:43,000 --> 00:37:00,040 And just in this title alone there's one two titles that are Final Fantasy there's children's mana which I believe is just like an offshoot of Final Fantasy blood of I'm going to say this wrong Bahamut Bahamut Bahamut. 584 00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:05,800 Okay Bahamut is unacceptable. 585 00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:07,480 Well you'll get shot in the streets for that. 586 00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:14,120 Bahamut yeah. 587 00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:16,440 Just just cripple over. 588 00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:17,640 The blood of Bahamut. 589 00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:19,560 All right whatever. 590 00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:21,240 I gotta cut that one. 591 00:37:21,240 --> 00:37:22,920 Nope. 592 00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:28,600 So blood of Bahamut Bahamut Bahamut is also Square Enix. 593 00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:29,800 I don't think I know that one. 594 00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:35,800 Kingdom Hearts recoded I think I wrote King Hearts recoded I'm assuming I meant Kingdom Hearts recoded. 595 00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:43,320 Yeah I remember I played that title for a short bit I didn't get very far but I do remember that one. 596 00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:48,760 Final Fantasy 3 I believe is the first remaster of the game. 597 00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:51,960 You know I'm a big fan of the early Final Fantasies. 598 00:37:51,960 --> 00:38:01,800 Yeah and that's something I found interesting is I've never gotten into Final Fantasy I have Final Fantasy 9 and I've never really gotten very far into it. 599 00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:05,960 Quite ironic because I love the Dragon Quest series. 600 00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:06,600 Yeah. 601 00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:13,480 I've got a decent list of favorites and I've got a decent list of curious games as well as games to play. 602 00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:17,240 I think we almost might want to do a randomizer. 603 00:38:17,240 --> 00:38:28,520 Not a bad idea we could each select a number of games to load into a short list of 20 30 whatever at a time and then hit the randomizer. 604 00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:29,400 Or. 605 00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:30,680 Uh oh. 606 00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:32,120 We do all of the games. 607 00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:34,680 Put them all in there oh Christ. 608 00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:35,640 Put them all in. 609 00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:38,680 We could we could definitely do that. 610 00:38:38,680 --> 00:38:44,920 And then if we have if we have a terrible luck streak we'll dig into our list. 611 00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:49,000 I'm going to go over some old favorites on this list if you don't mind. 612 00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:50,600 Not at all. 613 00:38:50,600 --> 00:39:02,600 Meteos is a Tetris like puzzle game I believe it was one of the first releases for the DS. I could be totally talking out of my ass there. 614 00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:04,200 It's a blast. 615 00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:06,760 I don't I don't know what makes it so much fun. 616 00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:08,280 They shoot off like rockets. 617 00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:15,480 I think sometimes you could be playing against someone else or you're trying to like stack their stuff full you know kind of like Tetris attack. 618 00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:16,520 Okay. 619 00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:22,280 Along that puzzle vein we've got puzzle quest slash uh Galactrix. 620 00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:25,240 Yeah Galactrix I believe is what it's called. 621 00:39:25,240 --> 00:39:27,560 Probably saying that wrong as well. 622 00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:32,680 Connect 3 RPG puzzle game. 623 00:39:32,680 --> 00:39:34,200 Okay. 624 00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:36,600 Uh so much fun. 625 00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:37,480 Difficult. 626 00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:38,360 Really difficult. 627 00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:43,480 Like it's not like as I recall Galactrix is a bit more approachable. 628 00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:47,080 It's the learning curve that it goes with you a lot better. 629 00:39:47,080 --> 00:39:49,640 Puzzle quest is a hard to play game. 630 00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:50,520 Interesting. 631 00:39:50,520 --> 00:39:54,680 Do you remember playing flash Sonic games? 632 00:39:54,680 --> 00:39:56,360 That were actually kind of good. 633 00:39:56,360 --> 00:40:04,520 Yeah yeah man Sonic is one of those titles I've really never gotten into. 634 00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:07,320 Yeah I say that hesitantly. 635 00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:10,840 The Sonic Rush is just too straight classic. 636 00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:13,640 It's in a fun art style I think you would actually enjoy it. 637 00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:18,120 It's I say once again kind of on the easier side. 638 00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:20,840 The world ends with you obviously is in this list. 639 00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:21,320 For sure. 640 00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:29,320 What I was going to ask you about before we started playing or playing recording was Space Invaders Extreme. 641 00:40:29,320 --> 00:40:33,240 I've been playing Space Invaders Extreme 2 I believe it is. 642 00:40:33,240 --> 00:40:33,560 Really. 643 00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:38,040 That was the music we were dancing to while we were setting things up. 644 00:40:38,040 --> 00:40:39,480 Oh yeah gotcha. 645 00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:41,080 Okay I was wondering what you were playing. 646 00:40:41,080 --> 00:40:45,000 But what is up with this system having the one like just the best soundtrack. 647 00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:45,960 It's fucking phenomenal. 648 00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:46,600 The world ends with you. 649 00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:47,720 We didn't touch on that. 650 00:40:47,720 --> 00:40:49,000 Great great soundtrack. 651 00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:49,720 Absolutely. 652 00:40:50,680 --> 00:40:56,360 We might have to well we'll consider how we want to play this. 653 00:40:56,360 --> 00:40:58,520 See if we can get some licensed audio in here next time. 654 00:40:59,320 --> 00:41:01,800 Yes absolutely just a little snippets of it. 655 00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:04,120 You know if we're short enough it's okay right. 656 00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:06,680 Right yeah sure we'll have to brush up on the legalities. 657 00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:15,240 Tokyo Beatdown is this like weird 80s Japanese top drama but it's like I said to beat them up. 658 00:41:15,240 --> 00:41:16,760 Really funny really fun. 659 00:41:16,760 --> 00:41:17,720 Like a side scroller. 660 00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:19,160 Yeah. 661 00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:19,720 Nice. 662 00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:22,120 I feel I'm leaving out on this list. 663 00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:24,280 The games I'm curious about now. 664 00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:30,360 Stoke-Upon Journey is an RPG slash board game. 665 00:41:31,640 --> 00:41:33,080 I've never heard of that before. 666 00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:33,880 I haven't. 667 00:41:33,880 --> 00:41:35,480 That's the first I've heard of it. 668 00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:36,280 Never heard of it. 669 00:41:36,280 --> 00:41:39,000 Never heard that combo so I'm really interested. 670 00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:40,520 Yeah that sounds cool as shit. 671 00:41:41,640 --> 00:41:42,680 I Hamtaro. 672 00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:43,960 Really. 673 00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:53,480 I played just an ee-tee-bee-tee bit of the game and it seems cute and just something about 674 00:41:53,480 --> 00:42:00,040 it just seemed like it could just suck me and I was also well I was into Hamtaro for way too long. 675 00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:03,240 Like to not admit for how long I liked Hamtaro. 676 00:42:03,240 --> 00:42:10,520 I don't I mean I know I know of Hamtaro and I know Hamtaro well enough to say that I think 677 00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:17,800 at some point in the sounds that are affiliated with the show the hamster says Hamtaro. 678 00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:20,360 It's about how it's like. 679 00:42:20,360 --> 00:42:22,520 Like Ham Ham Ham or something like that. 680 00:42:22,520 --> 00:42:23,020 Sure. 681 00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:24,920 Yeah far off. 682 00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:31,400 I think it was on like I'm trying to I'm trying to remember recently I used to watch cartoons on 683 00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:34,920 and it was one of those shows that I would watch it was a cartoon I'd watch before school 684 00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:36,040 while eating waffles. 685 00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:37,240 I have a very vivid memory. 686 00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:38,360 Interesting. 687 00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:41,320 It was on like Fox cartoons or something like that. 688 00:42:41,320 --> 00:42:45,480 So it was weird why did that Japanese show make it over but it was cute very cute. 689 00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:46,600 So I think it'd be fun one. 690 00:42:47,240 --> 00:42:48,680 Okay all right interesting. 691 00:42:48,680 --> 00:42:51,240 Rune Factory could be a fun one. 692 00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:55,800 Two weeks seems like it's gonna be one of those games where it's like oh that wasn't enough time. 693 00:42:55,800 --> 00:42:56,440 Yeah. 694 00:42:56,440 --> 00:43:03,160 Rune Factory is the first real evolution of Harvest Moon. 695 00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:06,440 That's right I knew it sounded familiar. 696 00:43:07,560 --> 00:43:09,960 But you're also still farming as well too. 697 00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:13,720 So it combines action role playing with the farm sim. 698 00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:15,560 Seems comfy and fun. 699 00:43:16,280 --> 00:43:17,320 Big fan of those titles. 700 00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:23,800 Valkyrie Profile is one that it's plants on my curious list because earlier I said I really 701 00:43:23,800 --> 00:43:27,800 don't like tactics games that's totally what this is. 702 00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:31,160 But I want to get into it. 703 00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:35,240 You know there's something like my friend used to my friend was so into Final Fantasy 704 00:43:35,240 --> 00:43:38,440 tactics or Final Fantasy advanced what it was. 705 00:43:40,040 --> 00:43:42,280 And I just wanted to be into it as much as he was. 706 00:43:43,080 --> 00:43:43,960 I was not. 707 00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:49,000 Absolutely relatable. 708 00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:55,080 I there was something about coveting the games of your friends. 709 00:43:56,760 --> 00:44:01,560 Because now I feel like games are widely accessible to anybody on almost any platform. 710 00:44:01,560 --> 00:44:07,080 Right you have modern games that are releasing on all platforms simultaneously for the most part anymore. 711 00:44:08,040 --> 00:44:09,400 You can stream games. 712 00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:13,320 Yeah you can you don't ever have to even have the console or the platform or the ability to 713 00:44:13,320 --> 00:44:16,440 play the games to experience the game itself if you really wanted to. 714 00:44:16,440 --> 00:44:22,280 But I remember growing up with handhelds and you know PlayStations are starting to come out. 715 00:44:22,280 --> 00:44:26,600 You've got the PSP you've got Xbox you still have some PC gaming absolutely. 716 00:44:27,160 --> 00:44:30,920 And just seeing the games that your buddies or friends are playing and that's where everybody 717 00:44:30,920 --> 00:44:37,720 falls into these niches or these niche clicks of oh I'm a Nintendo gamer I'm an Xbox gamer I'm a PS5 718 00:44:37,720 --> 00:44:42,440 gamer anymore it really just breaks down to semantics like do you like the social platform 719 00:44:42,440 --> 00:44:44,840 on one over the other more or not. 720 00:44:44,840 --> 00:44:49,480 Yeah but like if you grow if you grew up with a certain system then you were playing specific 721 00:44:49,480 --> 00:44:56,760 games and then that was what kind of molded your introduction into video games for the most part. 722 00:44:57,560 --> 00:45:00,440 Well I'll say it is PC and then we got a PlayStation. 723 00:45:01,320 --> 00:45:01,960 Yeah. 724 00:45:01,960 --> 00:45:04,200 And then from the PlayStation I went to GameCube. 725 00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:09,640 And then for my GameCube is really really was like fuck man I need something to actually play 726 00:45:09,640 --> 00:45:12,280 some shooters and stuff that's why I got into my PC more. 727 00:45:12,280 --> 00:45:19,240 And I was like PC master until I got the fucking DS and I was like I'm kind of a Nintendo fanboy 728 00:45:19,240 --> 00:45:25,160 like I love these titles like even though they there's a certain time where it was lame to be 729 00:45:25,160 --> 00:45:34,280 in these cutesy wutsy ones but now it's it's not you know and it's like the cartoony games. 730 00:45:34,280 --> 00:45:42,120 When you're talking about the GameCube and PlayStation 2 Xbox now you're looking back 731 00:45:42,120 --> 00:45:49,000 a lot and people are like that was that gritty time you know it was the the toned down color 732 00:45:49,000 --> 00:45:55,400 everything's in sepia or dark greenish tones and then you look over at the GameCube and it's just 733 00:45:55,400 --> 00:45:58,600 like fucking Mario Sunshine how bright can we make it. 734 00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:07,800 Man that's our next podcast right there is is all about the GameCube probably my personal favorite 735 00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:14,520 console. I didn't appreciate it when I had it and I didn't get the really good games for it when I had 736 00:46:14,520 --> 00:46:22,280 growing up with the GameCube. That's fair. I got Animal Crossing just like oh days before maybe 737 00:46:22,280 --> 00:46:30,200 like on the day of moving from Sioux City out to Sydney and that is the middle of summer so I have 738 00:46:30,200 --> 00:46:38,040 no friends you can't make friends you know like it's like it's impossible to so I just spent my 739 00:46:38,040 --> 00:46:46,520 summer just fucking Animal Crossing on the GameCube. That was you know that's why I love Animal Crossing 740 00:46:46,520 --> 00:46:53,560 to this day is I'm sure because of that core feeling right there. Hell yeah. I had fucking 741 00:46:53,560 --> 00:47:01,480 Billy Hatcher and uh you know PN03. I don't know if you ever played PN03. 742 00:47:01,480 --> 00:47:06,760 Oh PN03 is awesome. Such a weird game. 743 00:47:07,320 --> 00:47:11,960 Good if you have like a whole catalog. Not good if it's one of your like. 744 00:47:12,760 --> 00:47:17,560 Yeah that's that's fair yeah if you're just exploring the archives it's a fun play but yeah 745 00:47:17,560 --> 00:47:24,280 if that's one of your only sources of entertainment you might be better clawing your eyes out I guess. 746 00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:31,560 Yeah I mean it's that game would have done great on the DS. I'd like to see a remake I'd like to 747 00:47:31,560 --> 00:47:40,120 see a a demake of that on the DS. A demake. I like that. They have a few demakes out for the DS. 748 00:47:40,120 --> 00:47:49,400 I believe that there was a there's a Halo demake. Really like an actual like a Halo shooter game? 749 00:47:49,400 --> 00:47:53,320 If we had listeners and if we got comments they would be controversial comments. 750 00:47:54,040 --> 00:48:00,840 Being like oh I mean I mean it was actually a it was an alpha you know or pre-alpha game blah blah 751 00:48:00,840 --> 00:48:05,880 but there's also the people be like no they've said that that was not it was not actually it was 752 00:48:05,880 --> 00:48:11,320 not made by Bungie and it was just a fan made game and you'd have all these different arguments 753 00:48:11,320 --> 00:48:18,200 about it but yeah there is you you can get a Halo. That's wild. I'd like to take a quick step back. 754 00:48:18,760 --> 00:48:25,480 Is that your Karen voice? I don't know what voice that was. That was awesome. It was my it was my 755 00:48:25,480 --> 00:48:30,600 like high-pitched nerdy like whiny voice. Love it you should that's definitely needs to be a thing. 756 00:48:30,600 --> 00:48:36,200 That's okay yeah I'll see if I can ever do it again. My throat's pretty roached right now. 757 00:48:36,200 --> 00:48:41,720 Well we can keep you there I think. Yeah I'll be too. No I think it'll be all right. 758 00:48:43,000 --> 00:48:52,200 When do you think the last game came out for the DS? Oh I mean my gut tells me a while ago but 759 00:48:52,200 --> 00:48:58,680 you never know. Like not not not talking about like homebrew like an official release. 760 00:48:58,680 --> 00:49:07,160 No an official release. Geez I'd have to say it's been a while so 2016. 761 00:49:07,160 --> 00:49:19,560 Oh you gave it more credit than it deserves. 2014. Wow really. So now next year it'll be 762 00:49:19,560 --> 00:49:25,640 it'll be an interesting statistic right. If we would have started it next year it'd be better 763 00:49:25,640 --> 00:49:34,920 because 2004 it's announced. 2014 the final game comes out. I know. 2024 Pocket Cast is released. 764 00:49:35,800 --> 00:49:45,160 Pocket Cast is yes simulcasting every week. United all of the portable handheld retro enthusiasts 765 00:49:45,160 --> 00:49:51,320 across the world. Damn there's a tag. That's you know the funny thing is that there's no 766 00:49:51,320 --> 00:49:56,760 new handheld. Like if you want if you look up there's one new handheld. I can't think of the 767 00:49:56,760 --> 00:50:04,680 name of it right now. It's got the little Frank on the side of it. It's like it plays one bit games. 768 00:50:04,680 --> 00:50:12,920 Crank? Yeah you haven't seen this huh? What are you talking about? Frank handheld game. 769 00:50:13,560 --> 00:50:19,240 Yeah this sounds made the f**k up. Play date. Play date is what it's called. Okay. And 770 00:50:19,240 --> 00:50:28,680 and it's like it's interesting. I would definitely enjoy playing it. I believe the asking price is a 771 00:50:28,680 --> 00:50:37,560 little high for it for my economic level. What is the function of the mechanical crank? Is it? 772 00:50:38,600 --> 00:50:47,000 It's basically just to play with. It's an analog controller. Interesting. I used it in a lot of 773 00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:54,520 different ways and so it's huh this is the only new handheld console to come out besides all these 774 00:50:54,520 --> 00:51:01,720 retro you know emulating things that you see. Well but I feel like there's a case to be made 775 00:51:01,720 --> 00:51:11,960 that the switch is a handheld. I don't. No not at all. I don't. That's I it's I now it would I feel 776 00:51:11,960 --> 00:51:18,600 like I feel like your your requirement is that it needs to be pocketable. It needs to be pocketable. 777 00:51:18,600 --> 00:51:25,640 All right I respect that. Yeah I think it's a fair state. That definitely takes the p well 778 00:51:26,680 --> 00:51:32,280 well not not that there's a newer PSP but I would assume for you the PSP still like where does that 779 00:51:32,280 --> 00:51:37,640 fall in there for you? Like the original PSP slim? Not just the PSP I think if you looked at it right 780 00:51:37,640 --> 00:51:44,200 now you'd be like oh yeah that's smaller than the iPhone. All right that's fair that's a fair point. 781 00:51:44,200 --> 00:51:51,080 I don't know if we could look at measurements on that. Decide that. Man and I only really ever held 782 00:51:51,080 --> 00:51:58,520 a PSP a couple of different times. Yeah I'm with you there. The Steam Deck also does not count. Yeah 783 00:51:58,520 --> 00:52:03,640 of course it's far too large. I don't think the Switch Lite really fits in your pocket and if it 784 00:52:03,640 --> 00:52:16,920 does you're gonna fuck that screen up. I would even say part of my lack of love for the 3DS 785 00:52:16,920 --> 00:52:27,080 may be on my end because I got the XL. Ah so it's lack of portability. Yeah. That's that's fair. 786 00:52:27,080 --> 00:52:36,200 Okay back stepping real quick so the PSP was 6.7 by 2.9 by 9 and 2.23. That's an above average 787 00:52:36,200 --> 00:52:43,160 penis. That can fit just fine in your pocket. Yeah so not Jesus not really that big at all. All right 788 00:52:43,160 --> 00:52:51,160 so let's look at the Switch Lite here 3.6 by 8.2 so obviously definitely much larger than the PSP 789 00:52:51,160 --> 00:52:57,720 but not by a whole lot. You've got about an extra inch in height and inch and a half two inches on 790 00:52:57,720 --> 00:53:04,440 the length. I mean that's definitely about probably a little bit bigger than the iPhone Max's right now. 791 00:53:04,440 --> 00:53:15,160 iPhone Max 6.7. Is this 6.7? iPhone 14 plus. Yeah let's see if I can get a diagonal read on this. 792 00:53:15,160 --> 00:53:25,000 Riveting content here. Yeah good stuff. Either way I would I would reasonably. I'm not I'm 793 00:53:25,000 --> 00:53:32,920 gonna say that 3DS is the death of it marks the end of handheld gaming. That's fair. That's fair. 794 00:53:32,920 --> 00:53:40,840 I you know and I haven't been keeping up with Nintendo news. Obviously if there was a large 795 00:53:40,840 --> 00:53:44,360 gaming company that I would expect to put a handheld out like a true handheld it would be 796 00:53:44,360 --> 00:53:52,520 Nintendo. Well you know what's also interesting is that the DS was supposed to come out as a 797 00:53:53,720 --> 00:54:00,280 companion to the Game Boy Advance. Ironic being that it has a Game Boy Advance slot in it but it 798 00:54:00,280 --> 00:54:06,280 wasn't put out it wasn't originally made to replace the Game Boy Advance. It was supposed to be its own 799 00:54:06,280 --> 00:54:11,880 catalog. DS would go on Game Boy would go on. I would like to see a new Game Boy. 800 00:54:11,880 --> 00:54:19,640 I wouldn't mind a new Game Boy either. I don't know necessarily what specifications I want. 801 00:54:19,640 --> 00:54:26,520 The Game Boy Advance and Game Boy Advance is like I think I don't know the exact you know time frame 802 00:54:26,520 --> 00:54:31,720 but I'm thinking fifth to sixth grade probably maybe a little bit longer than that. Obviously 803 00:54:31,720 --> 00:54:35,320 it would have been longer than that but that's like sixth grade is about when I stop playing 804 00:54:35,320 --> 00:54:40,280 games. That's when you're like middle school you don't want to be seen playing video games or 805 00:54:40,280 --> 00:54:47,000 Pokemon in public. You know you want to be you're you're trying to be a teen and not play handheld 806 00:54:47,000 --> 00:54:54,440 game a Game Boy. That's for boys. I'm not a boy. I'm a teen. You know some shit like that and so 807 00:54:55,080 --> 00:54:59,880 Game Boy Advance is where I kind of fall off. I don't have a lot of nostalgia there. 808 00:54:59,880 --> 00:55:03,720 I have a lot I mean there's somewhere I'm like I remember seeing this game and wanting it 809 00:55:03,720 --> 00:55:09,320 but Game Boy Color is where a lot of my nostalgia sits and so it's fun to go back and I know we've 810 00:55:09,320 --> 00:55:16,920 discussed not limiting ourselves to the DS and considering throwing in Game Boy Advance, Game 811 00:55:16,920 --> 00:55:27,160 Boy Color, PSP that's got to be like 5,000 games probably. I'm gonna say it's probably 5,000. 812 00:55:27,960 --> 00:55:34,600 It would have yeah it would have to be a massive number and and maybe we could do that periodically 813 00:55:34,600 --> 00:55:41,880 you know do it. Yeah I think that's a fun idea. I think it's I'm definitely excited to dig into 814 00:55:41,880 --> 00:55:49,000 some of these titles. Is there anyone in particular that you want to focus on this next couple of weeks? 815 00:55:51,240 --> 00:55:59,480 These next couple of weeks I would not mind digging into the old favorite Hotel Dusk. 816 00:55:59,480 --> 00:56:08,440 Ooh. Or an RPG I wouldn't mind. I would also not mind something that I haven't played before. 817 00:56:09,400 --> 00:56:18,200 Blood of Bahamut. Still don't know if I'm saying it right. Bahamut. Bahamut. Bahamut. Bahamut. 818 00:56:18,200 --> 00:56:23,480 Okay see that in there you lost it. You don't want to add it. If you feel like doing something 819 00:56:23,480 --> 00:56:30,680 if you feel like doing something experimental two of the best shooters on the DS are Dementium the Ward 820 00:56:31,400 --> 00:56:37,240 Dementium the Ward 2 I think is what it's called and then also Moon. 821 00:56:38,680 --> 00:56:45,720 That is uh those are some decent FPS games. I would like to see a decent FPS game. I played 822 00:56:45,720 --> 00:56:52,200 a couple just toying around. Yeah I played a little bit of Call of Duty. Yeah I didn't. I was not impressed either. 823 00:56:52,200 --> 00:57:00,200 Surprising to see that this is a team that I think is no longer no longer together. 824 00:57:00,200 --> 00:57:09,880 Renegade Kid that was founded in 2007 defunct in 2016 sorry to say. Excellent. Excellent. They put out 825 00:57:10,520 --> 00:57:16,520 yeah Dementium the Ward, Moon, Dementium 2, ATV Wild Ride. I don't know anything about that one. 826 00:57:16,520 --> 00:57:24,040 Interesting. Mutant Muds. I'm sure you've heard of that game. Nope. Oh it's a it's like uh I believe it was a 827 00:57:24,600 --> 00:57:35,640 platformer like a pretty pod. Okay okay. We're lucky where we are in the same city the same town. 828 00:57:35,640 --> 00:57:44,440 We hang out weekly. We still have the local wireless communication abilities for their DS's. 829 00:57:44,440 --> 00:57:52,200 True. So we can play games and review them kind of if that's what we're doing. 830 00:57:53,000 --> 00:57:57,480 They can be multiplayer games so we can actually experience the multiplayer aspect to it. 831 00:57:58,680 --> 00:58:05,880 Phantasy Star Zero was a game that I quite enjoyed. I believe it's a bit repetitive. I think one of the 832 00:58:05,880 --> 00:58:11,880 main reasons I liked it was to put on a podcast, hop online, play with some people, find a squad, 833 00:58:11,880 --> 00:58:20,840 and then just go run through these dungeons. There are also a few games that are there's a real lean 834 00:58:20,840 --> 00:58:29,080 into the old school RPG. Is it Heroes of Might and Magic? I believe that's like the old school 835 00:58:29,080 --> 00:58:35,640 first person going just dungeon crawling you know and it's a hard unforgiving game. Oh brutal. 836 00:58:35,640 --> 00:58:44,920 Uh you also then have the Dark Spire. Same idea. They even have a setting where you can get this 837 00:58:44,920 --> 00:58:51,240 the the graphics to be like I don't know if it's a vector style or like a mega style but something 838 00:58:51,240 --> 00:58:57,880 along those lines. There's a classic one called Solar I can't pronounce the name of it. Red the 839 00:58:57,880 --> 00:59:05,880 Hunter is the sub name like Solar Chirobo. I'm looking for it. It's kind of a furry game. No offense to any 840 00:59:05,880 --> 00:59:12,760 furries listening out there. Okay. Just a heads up to anybody. That's an interesting unsuspected thing. 841 00:59:14,840 --> 00:59:19,400 But the story is supposed to be really good. I've played it a little bit. The art's really good. 842 00:59:20,280 --> 00:59:26,360 I'm not stoked on the controls but like I said I've barely played. Barely got it. I gotcha. Yeah I see 843 00:59:26,360 --> 00:59:34,920 that title. We want to lock that in. Let's just do it. You've sold me the furry title. The furries. 844 00:59:34,920 --> 00:59:42,760 All right. Yeah start strong. So this is one of the newer releases. Oh really? Oldest release. How 845 00:59:42,760 --> 00:59:49,320 do you say that? It's the newer yeah it's a newer release. One of the old last releasing titles. 846 00:59:49,320 --> 00:59:57,160 Holy shit you made that so complicated. I did. I truly did. So this in terms of the history of the 847 00:59:57,160 --> 01:00:05,080 lifetime of DS titles being released this title came later in that time frame. So it is the newest 848 01:00:05,080 --> 01:00:14,840 of the games or one of them. Good okay gotcha. Released in America in 2011. North America. 849 01:00:14,840 --> 01:00:25,160 Okay yeah by Namco. Okay so Sola 2 Robo or Solada Robo. I have no idea. Red the Hunter. All right got it. 850 01:00:26,840 --> 01:00:33,080 Yeah also one of the most expensive games I believe for collectors. Really? 851 01:00:34,760 --> 01:00:39,000 Yeah. Huh not a lot of titles floating around or what do you know? Well being made 852 01:00:39,000 --> 01:00:45,880 2011 you're near the end of I believe 3DS has come out by that point. Yeah that's a good that's a 853 01:00:45,880 --> 01:00:54,440 good point. Not a lot of DS loyalists out there. Don't make me feel bad. 2011 is when the 3DS comes 854 01:00:54,440 --> 01:01:04,760 out. Okay yeah. And that pretty well wrap us up then. Next time names to tweet at us with. Perfect. 855 01:01:04,760 --> 01:01:14,200 We'll have potentially a discord server for you to comment in. Yeah until the next time. Game on gamers.