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how to partner welcome to another episode. I can't do the accent. You don't need the accent. Just the

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characteristics. Just get that lean back on. Get those hands back together in the center. There you go.

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Give me that edge. Welcome to another illustrious episode of your favorite

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podcast, Pocket Cast. I'm Ed. With me today is my fabulous friend Fletcher.

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That's me. Yes, thank you for being here today Fletcher. I really appreciate it.

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I do what I can. Fight through sickness, illness, and anything spiritually unholy just to be here

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with you. I appreciate that brother. Of course. I appreciate that a lot. This is a special,

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special day. We have a special treat for listeners at home. This is a squeakless episode. We've got

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no seats. We've got no seats. No squeaks. None of that frou-frou shit. We ain't sitting. We're

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standing. I don't see that on TikTok. I see a lot of podcasts come up. Everyone's sitting. Everyone's

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lounging. It's not good for the knees. That's right. Or the back. Or the back. The soul. Mine's

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screaming right now. Probably from sitting all day. But it didn't start until I was standing.

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That's the evil coming out of you. That's right. Radiating, radiating away from me. Praise.

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Praise be to Mario upon this March day. Our Lord and Savior. Our Lord and Savior. Hallowed be

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thy name. Mario Christ. Super Mario. Super Mario Christ. Oh, you know that there's a hack of that.

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Someone's made that game where it's still Mario, but they've replaced all the sprites with Bible

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related things. Oh, dude. There are some insane Christian video games. I'm not even saying this would be

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Christian. I hope this would be a non-Christian making this game. Oh, just a straight up rip. Just a fun ass. There's no

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squeaks, but there's some thuds. My proclivity for absolutely smacking the shit out of water

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bottles wantonly is insane right now. It is insane. If I was a water bottle, I wouldn't want to be anywhere

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near you. It would be dangerous for you. I'm like five for five right now. Taking my water bottle away

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from you. That's a good call. That's a good call. We played the new amazing Super Mario Bros. game.

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New Super Mario Bros. I don't think there's a they, the in there. That's the one we played. Yeah, I remember that.

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I looked it up probably like 15 times and I could not get the name straight. I was like, it's the new

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Super Mario Bros. 3. I remember you sent me the message. You're like, what game are we playing? I was like, I can't. There's so

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fucking many of these games. Let's play you say that because on my card I have new Super Mario Bros. 3.

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That is a game. That's a hack someone made. Oh, it's a hack? What? Very cool thing about this game is that the DS

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version, because there's new Super Mario Bros. which is on the DS, there is new Super Mario Bros. 2 which is on the Wii U or yeah something.

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Maybe it's a 3DS. Okay. There's just new Super Mario Bros. same title on the Wii. Okay. And that's one way you can do co-op

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running through and fucking with each other and throw each other off. Oh, what? Dude, that sounds fun as fuck. Yeah.

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And which was originally supposed to be in the DS version, but they cut it. What? What? Yeah. All right. So as I was saying, this

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version that we played is one of the most it's out of all those, it's the easiest one to hack. And for a long time, the Mario games and

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2D platformers have been where modders, hackers, game designers and makers kind of start cutting their teeth at, you know.

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Ah, okay. I'm going to reskin this Mario game. That's the easiest type of modding. Still not easy. Right. But that's where you get

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into it. And then, okay, now I'm going to learn how to modify the game. Huh? Yeah. Okay. I would not have known that. There's ones

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where they put Sonic in the game. What? And so you can now play through it to Sonic. That's fucking sick. Okay. There's a lot of

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cool modding that they have people and modding is a weird word because you hear modding and you think like download the files.

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But I just mean like they modified the game. A hack, I think a ROM hack is probably the most accurate definition of what I'm talking about.

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Oh, that makes sense. Yeah. Okay. That's fucking dope. Okay. I did find that in searching for this game on a few occasions.

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There's a million of them. Yeah, that makes sense. That's pretty cool, actually. I didn't know that. I guess it's the original OG

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internet predecessor to the Mario Maker games. Yeah, I guess you could say that. Yeah. Yeah. I can see where you're coming from on that.

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I've seen some insane shit on that. I've never played it. Fucking wild. But I always like to see to the levels that people's kids make.

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Monsters, dude. Yeah. Like what the fuck? Just impossible levels. Or some are just silly and weird and just like they don't make any sense at all.

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All right. All right. We'll run it. But you start a kid doing that at three or four.

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Then they're gonna be pretty good at that later on. Yeah, no shit. I can feel my nose just continually getting stuffier and stuffier.

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And then it will like relieve. And then so my voice keeps going like up, up, up into my nose like this.

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You know, I hadn't actually noticed it until you literally just started talking. I knew immediately what you were about to say.

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Yeah. That's disgusting. It's life. Yeah, it is. I had pink eye last week. This is my last day of taking drops.

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I shouldn't even be near you right now. Nah, it's fine, dude. I haven't touched poop in at least 12 hours. Yeah, that's really good for you.

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Yeah, I guess. That's what everybody keeps telling me. I saw something a lot of people said that this game was kind of poop.

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What? Yeah. Yeah. I mean, this might be the first like time I've sat down and like attempted to play like an actual Mario game that wasn't a 3D Mario game.

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I fucking loved this game. Yeah, that's how I felt, too. And even like when I first played it, I loved it. Coming back to it, I loved it.

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And I was thinking about some of the comparisons they make are kind of some fair comparisons, like going from Super Mario 3 or Super Mario World to this one.

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You don't have nearly the amount of power ups. Oh, so that's I think a main complaint there.

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And I think the majority of the complaint is actually kind of on the series, the new series itself, because it doesn't grow like the old Mario games grew.

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But it's like those were groundbreaking and like game defining things that they were doing.

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So, yeah, sorry, you can't build the wheel twice. Once you build the wheel, you have to end up making like the fucking Ferrari to have any more.

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And yeah, fair. It doesn't have that. And I can see why you would have that expectation coming out of Mario.

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But I thought it was a good fucking game. I enjoyed this. I love the the feel of the amount of control you get on Mario.

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Whereas in previous titles, it's and I think it's maybe just because of the animations or I don't know.

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I mean, it's also they took a lot of his 3D movement mechanics. OK. And brought them into a 2D realm.

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Got you. And that gives it that more fast jumpy. See, you get what I'm saying?

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I do. But I do disagree with you on a fundamental aspect of your perspective.

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And that is that you liked it. I fucking thought it was trash. You thought what was trash?

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Just the movement. I think the big Mario is a slippery little fucker that can't stand still.

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And he needs to chill the fuck out and maybe just like take some static inputs slow.

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You're going too slow. Now, I mean, I feel like going fast was absolutely an issue for me.

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Did you watch the Super Mario 3 speed run that I sent you? Fuck. No, I did not. Oh, man.

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I did not. That is I brute forced the shit out of this game. I meant to I meant to save it and like watch it like today or yesterday or something like that.

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Totally forgot about it. We'll watch it. And I think you'll see what I'm talking about.

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The best way to play a Mario game is like it's a Sonic game. Just full throttle.

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See, I was I was crawling through those games, too. See, hold that run button and fucking jump.

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Yeah, but like there's like gaps and shit. You can jump on things. You can jump on things, but like there's gaps.

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There's gaps. And that's what I was telling you about is pulling yourself back in the air.

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When you watch anyone speed run these games, or that's good at these games, they're jumping and

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then turning back to where they jumped from. Like just immediately. Yeah, just immediately when you jump.

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If I'm jumping to the right as I'm jumping, as I'm hitting that jump to the right, I'm now going to flip my character so that he's facing the other way so I can pull him back over if I need to.

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If I'm fucking that jump up, because when you're doing that fast enough, your momentum is launching you.

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Okay, yeah, we did talk about that and I totally also conveniently very much forgot about that also.

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So that's kind of a bummer. Yeah, you experienced it in a juvenile way.

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Truly. Yeah, it's in the truest truest fashion. Absolutely. So having played Super Mario World recently,

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you prefer that movement over... No, they're both dog shit. He's a slippery little bastard.

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What's your preferred 2D platformer? Do you have one?

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I'm gonna give you a hint for yourself. Honest to God, Croc.

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I know Croc as a 3D platformer. Oh yeah, dude. 2D, baby. I don't know 2D Croc. Oh man.

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I think I had it for the GBA. It might have been a color game. It sounds like a color game.

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I think it might have been. Croc, I feel like timeline wise radiates me towards more of Gamecube,

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because Croc didn't make it on a PS1. It's really sad to hear because we've had this conversation before,

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and initially I wasn't aware that Croc had more games, much less 3D titles. I was like, what the fuck?

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I could be wrong, but I think it's originally a 3D title. What? And I could be wrong.

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I could be wrong. It could be an older game than I realized, but I think of Croc 1 as a 3D platformer on the PS1.

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Croc 2 is the same way. It's one of the first games that I had, and I really enjoy it.

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It's a hard game because it's tank control. I was gonna say, isn't it tank control?

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Yeah, and I've gone back and played it. As I got older, I always wanted to go back and play Croc,

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because now that I am saying this, I'm really thinking that it was one of my first games.

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Yeah, same. Absolutely one of the first, like Donkey Kong Country, Croc.

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Game of War Color. Absolutely. I don't remember if I got a Zelda game immediately, but I definitely

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had those two, and I absolutely got my hand on like Seasons and Ages. Oh man, a golden era for young Ed.

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I remember going to a Boy Scout camp, and there was a kid in our troop. He was one of the older kids.

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Yeah. He had a Game Boy. I'm assuming Keller with him, but I almost want to say it was actually an OG.

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Either way, he was playing Link's Awakening, and anytime he died, he was restarting his game.

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Oh shit, OG hardcore, huh? Damn, dude. He beat it like that on that trip.

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For the first time and shit? Well, I mean, it wasn't his first time beating.

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But I mean, under that restriction? But his first time beating it on that restriction, yeah.

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Fucked, yeah, dude. It was pretty badass. That is so sick.

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That was a wild experience. I think that was one of the things that really made me be like,

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I want to play this game. Oh, so then it's such a like,

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I feel like Link's Awakening is to the handheld Zelda games. What this game was,

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the Super Mario World, right? The new Super, no, just new Super Mario World. Jesus Christ.

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No. No? New Super Mario Bros.

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Fuck me, dude. New Super Mario, okay. That game, fuck, the comparison I'm making is that this game

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is to the handheld Mario games, just because it's like, from my perspective, having played

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basically none of them. This game seems to be, like you said, the blending of some of the more

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fluid movement styles and maybe actions taken. Like just the movement over, it has this

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3D taste overhaul. And from my perspective, also a pretty major graphical and stylization overhaul

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as well. The last handheld Mario game, original Mario game to come out was on the Game Boy.

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And then this one. Gotcha.

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So yes. Fuck you. Yeah, okay. Look at me knowing shit, making

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invalid points. You had Mario Bros. on GBA. You had

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Mario Bros. on the Game Boy Color even, but they were just ports of the console version.

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Right. Gotcha.

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So you had the GBA, excuse me, the Game Boy Mario games were called like,

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so they're Super Mario World, so this would have been Super Mario, I wish I could remember,

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but it's similar to World, but it's not World. Gotcha.

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And they are Mario games. Okay.

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But they are very different. You might like those better, because it is a little bit more

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sturdy, slower paced Mario. The bosses are really fun. The worlds are really cool and interesting.

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The one that's on Switch that you can play, that's on the Game Boy emulator.

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Oh yeah. I think it's like the second or first world that you're in, you're in a tree. And so

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there's sap coming down and up in certain parts, and it's like jello basically. So when you start

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to move through it, you like slow down. And if you keep hitting jump, you'll stay up and you still

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just kind of move slowly. And they use that as platforming elements. What? Yeah.

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Dude, that's sick. Yeah. That's a Game Boy game.

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God damn, dude. It's a good one. I remember really enjoying that one.

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Doing a lot with the little man. Yeah.

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God, I miss the raw majesty and wonder of those games, but through the lens of my,

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Christ, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16 year old self, I don't fucking remember.

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Oh my God. That's wild to me. I still can't get over things like that.

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What, that it was so long ago? Oh, that year like 12.

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Oh yeah. I was in second grade. I was in second grade when I got my,

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first grade when I got my Game Boy Color. Oh shit.

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Yeah. No, I'd already been through the most traumatic experience of my life by that point.

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Games are fun. Games are fun. They take you away.

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They do, man. This game definitely took me back to

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playing it the first time. And I fucking, the giant mushroom, people call it gimmicky.

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Dude, I thought it was awesome. It was so fun.

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I've only been able to pocket that one one time. And like one, that mechanic alone is sick.

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Yeah. But I, I'm, well, I am admittedly terrible at this game, at Mario. It's, I'm like,

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I think I got a lot better through the course of my play over the last couple of weeks.

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Still pretty dog shit, but like I found some skips. I think I didn't actually play what I

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thought was the correct way to go. Yeah. It's like, I think it was World 3 on the castle.

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It's the one that's got like the rotating platforms. They have to jump between where

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you can get up on top ropes. And then you can like do like a running jump and land on like a

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little ledge just on the wall up high. And then you can like wall jump and flip up and then go up.

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Well, look at you go. Oh dude. It was a bastard. It had like this,

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this like upside down U shaped box that had no bottom. And it was on a trolley trail thing.

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And you have to like hit the switch and then you have to just continuously wall jump between the

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platforms as it's going elevator. Oh, I think I do remember that.

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Bro. But it goes straight to the boss. The wall jump. What a fucking fun,

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cool mechanic in every game. Any game that I play that has a wall jump or like a wall grab or

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anything where you can actually interact with that wall. It feels so good. It feels great in

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this game too. I will agree the requirement to like press and hold the direction of the wall that

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you're touching and then putting the jump input as opposed to just being able to like,

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I think more modern installations of this mechanic, you just kind of tap the button

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or direction you're going, hit the jump button one time, you're good. You have to like press it

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when you touch the wall. I like it better.

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I like it better. Once I understood that that's the first few times I was like, what the fuck?

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It took me a minute to figure it out. But yeah, once you get the hang of it, it's pretty freaking

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precise and it allows you to like just kind of like hang and like slowly fall off the edge if

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you want to take a second, which you have to do in that little box scenario. Cause if you get into

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the corner, then you just bounce off the top immediately and just drop. Oh yeah.

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And it's not a lot of space. It's like maybe like two and a half Mario's tall. It was a pain in the

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dick, but I got really good at it. I had a lot of fucking fun playing this game.

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That's like one of the most satisfying things about Mario games in general is the element of

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if you die, if you lose all your lives, you have to restart the world.

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Yeah.

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So you might've just barely got past the second level the first time through.

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Oh, oh yeah.

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Now it's given you fucking hell. So now you're going to become a master at level two.

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And then get back to level three and realize that was the one that was really giving you a

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hard fucking time. And then you're going to master that one after having to now go back to,

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it's so satisfying to go through a level that was really hard. And then after having done it so many

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times, you're just like, I can't believe this is ever hard to me. Like this level.

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That was the one I told you about six five was the world that gave me hell.

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It's an underwater level. It's got whirlpools in it.

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What the fuck?

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It's got these, the green fish, I think that like when they see you, they'll kind of like

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actually change their trajectory towards you. Whereas the red ones just like keep swimming.

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These ones like see you and they'll fucking, but if you're too low or too high as your smallest

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Mario, they won't, they can't get you.

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Okay. Okay.

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So there's just certain things about that level where you just, it plays you because

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we have been feeding you this pattern for these past levels. And now we're trying to kill you.

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If you follow that pattern.

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Dude, this shit's so like intelligent game design immediately comes to mind.

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Like the game absolutely fucks with you and like it escalates, I think beautifully in difficulty,

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at least for me as a relative beginner. And I mean, I failed. Well, actually, okay.

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So the first time I found that fucked up elevator, the wall jump one,

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aced it the first time. No problem. Died immediately to the boss.

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No problem. We'll do it again.

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No, 15 dead repeats. Like I was losing my fucking mind. But like you said, you get to be a master

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at something at a mechanic or just learning a level and it's annoying as hell, but then

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it's super gratifying. And then you get to the next point and it's just like, go fuck yourself.

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Jesus, like this is the first two levels of this world. What the fuck? It's not even like a

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midway point castle or a big boy castle level. Like Jesus level eight, just fucking.

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Yeah. Played 10 seconds. And that's me going from, and mind you, so you're when an interesting

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element about this game is level four and six or four and seven world fours and seven or.

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Oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

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Right. Those two are both hidden. Like you have to take a special exit out of

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the level to get to that level. I could not find the one for four.

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So I don't know if seven kind of teaches you some more steps, gets you hardened along the way.

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Yeah. Because when it does it, it takes you from six to eight and going into eight, you're just

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like, what just happened? It just got mean. This isn't fun right now, but it does become funny

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because that's when you get to just go fucking fast. Just go for it. Know where you need to slow down

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at. And then for the rest of the time, like just starting to memorize that level, fucking blast

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through it. It's fun. It's really fun. The moment they introduce the bullets at you.

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Oh yeah. Cause you can just like bounce off of them.

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Yeah. And start flying through using that. And if you don't touch the ground and you keep

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doing that, you can start ranking up lives too.

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Well, at least that's how it was on the old ones. I didn't try it on this one.

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Okay. I think, yeah, no, it is. Cause you can do that trick with the shell. Yep.

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Oh, I forgot to even try that. Yeah. And it's kind of a precise trick. I think I've

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could never fucking figure it out. Oh shit. Doesn't, doesn't sound like my thing. I will.

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I'm not good at the timing. I'm, I'm constantly landing right in front of a goomba. And then

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it's like, are you fucking kidding me? That is the most frustrating feeling.

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You're going kind of fast. You're feeling good. And then you just land right where you think you

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should. And it's not, there's a goomba right there. They knew exactly what you're going to do.

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Yeah. I've had a couple of levels where I just cannot get past this one point. I just

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always something stupid and it's always something different and it's all bullshit.

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And then I finally get past that point, take three pixel steps to the right. And then it's like,

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Oh, here's your halfway flag. I'm like, cool. I've fucking one life left. Dope. Yeah. I hate

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that feeling. Great. Yeah. Cool. Good for me. Yeah. I, okay. I will say though,

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totally down with the plight about not getting enough power-ups. Cause that was fucking,

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there's nothing like having to repeat the same level starting out as mini Mario. Like that's

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in like no stocked item, nothing. And then, no, you misunderstand what I said then. Oh, what?

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They meant variety of power-ups. Oh yeah. I feel that there's only like four. Yeah. I hated the

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blue shell. Okay. Let's, oh, let's, uh, let's talk about the blue shell, but let's, let me,

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no, I forgot what I was saying before. Anyway, so let's go straight into the blue shell.

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I hated it. The worst power-up ever. I watched a fucking video of somebody using it. I was like,

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dude, I have to know like, what the fuck? Like there's gotta be some God tier players out there

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that are like, actually blue shell OP. Yeah, there are. It is. It's fucking OP as shit. They're just

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zipping and flying through a level. I can't figure it out. I didn't know you could like go like

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across the ground as the shell, just like ripping through shit. Yeah. What the fuck? Even that's

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not as easy as it. Like the way that you see people play it like that, it's, that's not. No,

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cause they're still bouncing off of shit. And like, you have to try to keep your momentum up.

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Yeah. I don't know. Come out of your shell. And the moment you come out, you get hit and then you're

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lose your shell. Oh shit. Yeah. That's fair. Yeah. No, I don't, I don't know how people do it. It's

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hard. But it looks like once you master it, which is what this game is all about,

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it is about simple masteries. Oh my God. You master it and you fucking own it. Yeah. That first

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underwater, no, not the underwater level underground. No, the over water, the one where those big fish

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that just will like fucking jump up, they go kind of high. And then like towards the second half,

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there's a bunch of little fish that are jumping high and I'm like, dude, this fucking level is

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pissing me off. That was a call back to one of the original Super Mario bro levels. And yeah,

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it immediately gave me PTSD for something. I didn't know I had PTSD for it. Like these flash

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backs of like, Oh, wow. Like, you know that feeling when memories get just shoved into your

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brain suddenly. Yeah. It's just like, oh, my psyche. It was that exact feeling. But I blew right through

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that level and thank God. That was that first world is just like a ton of callbacks. Oh hell

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yeah. I really enjoyed that. I've gone back and played through the first world a couple of like

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more times, even though that's not right now. It's just nice. Yeah. When I'm taking a fucking

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beating by some of the other levels, I'm like, you know what, I'm going to just have fun playing

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this game for a second. Get some power up. Yeah. Come back. I did hate having to do that sometimes,

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but I did. Did I tell you, I finally like stockpiled an insane amount of lives.

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I'm sitting on like 24 or 27 right now. You did tell me about that. Fucking absolutely cruising,

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dude. I'm just like big king dick over here. It's an incredible feeling. Yeah. I don't think I ever

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had more than 15 lives. That's still pretty good though. Yeah. It was pretty good, but I know I

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blew through. I came up from like two, so I'm feeling pretty good. You'll get back down there.

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Oh, for sure. Yeah, for sure. Well, maybe not. You probably won't play the game again. I don't

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know, man. I really want to. I have been playing more Ace Attorney 2. Not a lot. Yep. I did a

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little bit more too. Then I did do a little bit more. That third episode is pretty fucking funny

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so far. It is hilarious. It is such a funny fucking game. Although I do really enjoy it. I've enjoyed

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both of the last two games we've played for entirely different reasons, but good games all around.

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It's a good thing there's so many good games in the Indius library.

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Fuck. It's a pleasant library to dig through. Sometimes. We've done a pretty decent job,

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I think. We've gotten a good variety. Yeah. We like to cover a lot. We've still got like a thousand

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episodes before we have to start sweating the bottom of the barrel. Yeah. Right? Yeah. And maybe

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we should get some out of the way, but it's so hard to do something you aren't going to enjoy.

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Next episode, the Barbie collection. I almost wanted to. I mean we got to do it eventually.

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Yeah, we do. Not next week. Let's wait until I have a daughter or something.

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You think it'll be a girl? I don't know. I think I'm leaning boy is my expectations.

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Just due to heart rate. You can kind of judge things based on heart rate. Oh shit. Really?

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Yeah. I don't know. Shit. I don't fucking. Yeah. When they tell you that you're like,

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oh, that kind of takes the wonder out of it, doesn't it? But then they're like,

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hey, but it can be different. You never know. Like that's only 90% accurate.

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Oh shit. That's pretty fucking accurate.

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It sounds pretty fucking accurate to me. Yeah. I'm not a doctor. We're not finding out. So.

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Yeah, buddy. New pocket cast baby on the way.

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Little pocket cast baby. Have to get a pocket cast onesie.

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Oh dude. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's it. I like that. That's a good idea.

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Oh man. Merch line coming soon. Babies. We need to take an ad break. I gotta take a piss.

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Ad break. I'm not doing an ad.

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Did you know that this is so funny. I just feel like that, that YouTube video game thing,

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that did you know? And then I can list off the, yeah. The songs for like the, the, there's this,

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the music in this game, all the characters dance to a certain beat. No matter what's going on,

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they do a little like, like the little dance move. Yeah. The flower in the game. Yeah.

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Yeah. The flower in the game. So when you're going through, then listen, the music is playing.

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There's like, I don't know if it's the four beat or whatever, but they all have like everything in

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the game, like does a little move. The flower that you can pick up that gives you the fire power.

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You're talking about the like power up items. Yeah. Oh, okay. That moves the enemy's dance.

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They move. Oh, what? Oh shit. This became a TikTok trend, I guess, at one point. What?

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Yeah. Where people were like copying this whole idea of that, like when something's going on,

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like they're mourning their fucking loved one, but all of a sudden the music gets to four beat. So

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they have to do a little dance, even though it's like the saddest moment of their life.

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Well, it's dark as shit. I like that. Fine. Well, some of that shouldn't send it to me.

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Cause I don't even know how to look for that. I had some fun looking up facts about this game.

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That's fucking, that's wild, dude. That's kind of cool. Yeah. I think. Yeah, it is. All the

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characters do a little, a little grief. I did not notice that. I thought they were just walking

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around doing the thing, just being assholes. It's a quick little thing. You know, yeah.

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I think it was just to kind of make the music a part of the game more so, you know, like it really,

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it causes a little bit more immersion. Yeah. No, that's fair. I see that. I did love this game.

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It was really, there was some cool like moments of discovery where I was like, I wonder, I wonder if

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like there's, there's one green pipe cave tunnel thing that you can get into. It's just one of

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those, which is like a single screen room. And then there's a green pipe on the other side to exit,

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but there's nothing in the room. And you're like, what the fuck? There's just one Koopa fuck boy.

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Um, but like the green tunnel exit pipe is like on one, like row of blocks. And so you chuck,

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you know, you have to pick up the shell, chuck it down and it just bounces between and it slowly

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breaks the, the one under the pipes. And then you have to do like a running crouch or, or take

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damage and become little baby Mario or whatever, you know. And, uh, I fucked it up like three

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times trying to figure out like the right way to time it. And just, yeah. And I was like, I, like

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I was, that was kind of what I was thinking on how to do it, but I kept fucking it up. So I had to

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reset and like, God, voluntarily, like restarting a level is, that's a judgment call. Is it worth it?

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Almost souls like in that way, like, I know it kind of crossed my mind multiple times. Yeah. Like

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just, I don't know, just the way the progression feels, I want to give it credit of being in similar

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flavor and I'm making an exact one to one here. Like everybody chill the fuck, you know, I would

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sit back down or whatever, but like, I still get some of that like rogue light flavor to it.

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I mean, it's like the grand papi of. Yeah. Yeah. That's fair. Any flavor you get, you're probably

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right. Yeah. That's, that's a good point. Actually. It's all, they're all, they all have roots. There's

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a mechanic in this game that I despise that I see in so many 2d platformers that, you know, obviously

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take it from this. If an enemy touches you, it hurts you. But like my, it makes, that makes sense

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in these games because they don't have, most of them don't have an attack. They're just moving,

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right? Like the hammer bros throw hammers. Some of them throw fireballs at you, but most of them,

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they're just walking around. Yeah. When you get into like a Castlevania type game,

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if I just bumped into you and you didn't swing your sword at me, I don't feel like that should

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hurt me because it doesn't hurt you. It doesn't hurt the enemy. Yeah. And that's a way,

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it's a mechanic that made sense in this game. And then in every 2d platformer from there on,

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when you play one where it doesn't happen, you will notice it and you'll never want to go back

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to any other platformer. That's totally fair. Cause I'm like, you're talking about it and I'm,

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I'm right there with you, but I'm, I've never like perceived that mechanic so individual,

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like individualistically. Like it's just, I mean, obviously I knew that and you know,

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right? Like you don't touch enemies. I just, that's, I took it for granted. That's what I'm

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trying to say. Yeah. Um, and maybe that goes back older than Mario as well. You know,

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I feel like it's got a, I'm sure if I was smarter than I am, I could sit down and think of one

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pretty quickly, but I can't. So yeah, probably. Yeah. It seems like a mainstay of like video

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games. You know, speaking of like heavily influential things, there's a heavy, heavy burden

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that had weighed on us of like, do we do a, do we talk about this at the beginning or do we talk

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about it? Yeah. We were, yeah, we were trying to figure out when we should, when we should bring

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it up. So obviously by the time you've heard this episode, you will know that Akira, Tari, Akira,

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Akira, Tariyama. I had it perfect earlier. Yeah, I know. Um, passed away. Yeah. The creator of

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Dragon Ball Z. It was just the father of childhood. Of Dragon Quest. Um, not, I mean,

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he's the artist for Dragon Quest. Right. Right. What I didn't realize until seeing all these posts

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was the amount of like influence Dragon Quest alone has. Yeah. Is the shy guys that have gas

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masks are based off of Toriyama's character. Cause you know, manga artists have a little character

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that they draw. That is where they got that from. No shit. Uh, because he's got kind of a gas mask

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deal and like a hood on his character. Sure. Yeah. Okay. You look at, what was that show? Desert

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Punk. Dude, Desert Punk was so formulative for me. There's so much in that. And then the Pokemon

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comparison of the monsters you see in early Dragon Quest game compared to what you end up seeing as

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Pokemon, tons of influence there. Yeah. It's the list goes on and on and then the fucking Dragon

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Ball, Dragon Ball Z, you know, that just speaks for itself. That's the, I saw there was a joke

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that it got taken out of hand, but people took it seriously that the cartels put on a ceasefire

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to be like, we got more in this fucking loss here, man. The creator of Dragon Ball Z died.

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Well, not to, not to be a, a boomer approaching Facebook as, as truth in the same way that I

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basically look at TikTok, YouTube and Reddit, which is basically how I consume information

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across those three platforms. Let's be real. Yeah. So diving head first in with no thought of

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what's actually going on for real. Supposedly like cartel crime on the day's new episodes would drop

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was at its lowest because everybody's at home fucking morning. They're like, Hey, everybody

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00:37:57,500 --> 00:38:04,220
chill the fuck out. Don't fuck with me right now. I, I believe that. I believe that 100%.

368
00:38:04,220 --> 00:38:10,620
Absolutely. Yeah, dude. It doesn't matter if you, because right now we're 30 year olds, right?

369
00:38:12,300 --> 00:38:18,060
And that means there are plenty of other 30 year olds younger and older. I mean, it's, I think it's

370
00:38:18,060 --> 00:38:25,660
a pretty wide spanning because we didn't get Dragon Ball until way after everything that we're

371
00:38:25,660 --> 00:38:32,220
getting even later. Yeah. And you're not alone in that, you know? So I, and then there was those

372
00:38:32,220 --> 00:38:37,580
things where I didn't realize, like I did, but I hadn't stopped to think about it until hearing

373
00:38:37,580 --> 00:38:47,100
about his passing that how much Dragon Ball Z like was important and dude, like how so much

374
00:38:47,100 --> 00:38:53,660
influence it's like, have you seen those posts where it's just a collection of all of the different

375
00:38:53,660 --> 00:39:00,060
TV shows that reference? Well, the TV shows, but like it's like the excerpts from the written

376
00:39:00,060 --> 00:39:04,860
statements by a lot of these other artists that were so heavily influenced and just they're

377
00:39:04,860 --> 00:39:13,020
commenting on his passing. No. And some of these are like almost a eulogy, like it's just, it's

378
00:39:13,020 --> 00:39:19,740
incredible, but it's just from so many, dude. It's everyone. And then you've got these like

379
00:39:19,740 --> 00:39:26,380
artists collaborations where it, you know, representing, like I saw this one that some

380
00:39:26,380 --> 00:39:35,500
artists had drawn up. I don't remember who it was, but it was, the representation was a bunch of kids

381
00:39:35,500 --> 00:39:39,420
like at like a summer scout camp or something, and they're all around to like a fire pit.

382
00:39:39,420 --> 00:39:44,540
And then the scout leader is, you know, like presumably telling a scary story. He's got like

383
00:39:44,540 --> 00:39:49,900
a flashlight up in space and stuff and everyone's like, whoa. And so the scout leader is full-size

384
00:39:49,900 --> 00:39:56,380
Goku. And then around the pit, you have like these kind of miniaturized like child versions of all of

385
00:39:56,380 --> 00:40:01,820
these other main characters from like Demon Slayer. Yeah, I saw that one. Yeah, bro. I saw that one

386
00:40:01,820 --> 00:40:06,700
and I'm just like, man, I got worked. I got spreadsheets to look at today and I'm sitting

387
00:40:06,700 --> 00:40:13,020
over here crying at my computer at work. I think it was like 12 a.m. I just happened to like look

388
00:40:13,020 --> 00:40:19,820
at Instagram. My buddy James had posted something about it and immediately, you know, it's one of

389
00:40:19,820 --> 00:40:26,060
those things. And like I'm not, a celebrity death doesn't bother me usually. Like there's a lot of

390
00:40:26,060 --> 00:40:31,260
like my favorite musicians that could die and I'd just be like, well, you know, such is life. So yeah.

391
00:40:31,260 --> 00:40:37,660
This is one where immediately I had to Google it to find out if this is real. I mean, the

392
00:40:37,660 --> 00:40:43,820
post that he had came from his like publishing house, you know, so it was like already pretty

393
00:40:43,820 --> 00:40:46,940
real. But I fucking looked it up and I was like, yeah, that was real. And that was where I just had

394
00:40:46,940 --> 00:40:54,300
to, I just sat there and I was like. Did you text me? Yeah. Like I'm glad to find out differently,

395
00:40:54,300 --> 00:40:59,980
but like, or like from somewhere else, but like, that's not the day that I thought I was waking up to.

396
00:40:59,980 --> 00:41:06,540
Yeah, that was, yeah, that was that one. That one like fucked my whole day up. Like I went into work

397
00:41:06,540 --> 00:41:12,540
and just like so solemn, just chill as fuck. Like I was, I was just there. You been talking about now,

398
00:41:12,540 --> 00:41:17,580
I feel like tear. Yeah, I just like it fucking hit, dude. I was like, because Dragon Quest 2 for me

399
00:41:17,580 --> 00:41:25,100
is so, it's a game that has brought me so much pleasure. It's a game that has helped me dissociate

400
00:41:25,100 --> 00:41:31,100
from terrible situations. It's a game that I still love to go back and play. It doesn't have any

401
00:41:31,100 --> 00:41:39,260
negative connotations to it over, you know, we've discussed that before. It's every reference I can

402
00:41:39,260 --> 00:41:45,180
think of in my life of Dragon Quest has been such a positive, enjoyable, funny experience. And then

403
00:41:45,820 --> 00:41:54,380
looking at Dragon Ball Z now, I will say this and I'll get some hate for this. Dragon Ball Z made me

404
00:41:54,380 --> 00:42:01,660
a violent fucking kid. Damn. I took the wrong message out of Dragon Ball Z. I think it's fair

405
00:42:01,660 --> 00:42:09,820
to say. But I mean, I understand where you went wrong. If you go back and watch it now as an adult,

406
00:42:09,820 --> 00:42:14,540
I think it's some fucking valuably good lessons of just being like, yeah, the toughest dude on

407
00:42:14,540 --> 00:42:19,660
the fucking planet is just so nice. It just wants to eat food. I mean, he's like Buddha in so many

408
00:42:19,660 --> 00:42:28,780
ways. Dude, Goku is infuriatingly amazing. The one that rocked me too was seeing the

409
00:42:29,900 --> 00:42:39,100
post from the writer for Dragon Quest talking because like a couple of years ago, the

410
00:42:39,980 --> 00:42:45,660
the original composer died. Yeah. And then now the artist died and he's just like, I don't,

411
00:42:45,660 --> 00:42:52,380
I don't fucking like what the fuck? You know, like his, the way that his was written was just such

412
00:42:52,380 --> 00:42:59,420
this just like unreal. These guys had to work together for fucking ever so hard, put so much

413
00:42:59,420 --> 00:43:06,780
time into these games. And then he's just like, I'm solo now. Yeah. I'm the last one. This isn't

414
00:43:06,780 --> 00:43:18,540
this isn't what I wanted. Yeah, that sucks. But it's also so cool to see Facebook just fucking

415
00:43:19,180 --> 00:43:25,420
flooding with dude. So much of it and the amount of people that you're seeing post things that you

416
00:43:25,420 --> 00:43:33,660
didn't know would give a shit about it. Yeah. It's kind of cool. And they had that gathering in,

417
00:43:33,660 --> 00:43:38,220
I think it was somewhere in Mexico. They had the turnout that they had for all these people and

418
00:43:38,220 --> 00:43:42,860
they gathered to all do like a spirit bomb thing together. Dude, I saw those videos. You're like,

419
00:43:43,500 --> 00:43:58,060
oh, my heart. That is cool though. And wild, wild timing because we were going to do a Dragonball

420
00:43:58,060 --> 00:44:06,540
Z game instead of this game. Yeah. Cause like mid recording, we changed up our plans. Yep.

421
00:44:07,740 --> 00:44:13,180
So we ended up doing Mario, which we were supposed to, and this was not planned. Do you think it's

422
00:44:13,180 --> 00:44:21,020
our fault? Yeah, absolutely. I've thought about that. It totally is. So I, uh, but we didn't plan

423
00:44:21,020 --> 00:44:27,180
this either. We were, we are missing our recording day by a couple of days. Yeah. But originally we

424
00:44:27,180 --> 00:44:36,700
would have been recording this episode on March 10th, Mario day. Oh, isn't that the weirdest fucking

425
00:44:36,700 --> 00:44:43,180
time? So then what we did was we had planned already with last week or last two weeks. Now

426
00:44:43,180 --> 00:44:48,460
after playing Mario, we would play the game that we had initially intended to play, which is Dragon

427
00:44:48,460 --> 00:44:56,540
Ball Z, which would be just kind of perfectly timed. Yeah. For the episode to go along with,

428
00:44:56,540 --> 00:45:04,380
you know, I was excited for the game already, but now it's, it's going to have a different touch.

429
00:45:04,380 --> 00:45:11,340
I've been playing Dragon Quest 11 pretty hard right now. Oh yeah. Cause that was a game that

430
00:45:11,340 --> 00:45:19,020
I think I've been playing that for like four years and I'm finally, finally getting close to, uh,

431
00:45:19,660 --> 00:45:24,300
I think beating it. I don't know because that's the great thing about Dragon Quest games is they

432
00:45:24,300 --> 00:45:29,420
were so good at making you be like, Oh, this game's almost over. Yeah. Like a hundred hours in.

433
00:45:29,420 --> 00:45:36,620
No, man, you're halfway. Oh Jesus. I don't know if it's that extreme, but it is. That's cool though.

434
00:45:36,620 --> 00:45:42,300
Fucking, I guarantee you put 40 hours in and you're halfway through the game. Not even. Not like,

435
00:45:42,300 --> 00:45:50,380
and that's when like your big drop happens, you know, the plot twist or just the shocker.

436
00:45:50,380 --> 00:45:55,740
That's kind of cool. And it's not even the biggest one because you're just, it's what really gets the

437
00:45:55,740 --> 00:46:00,060
story going. You know, you think you're playing the game. The RPGs always do that. You think

438
00:46:00,060 --> 00:46:04,780
you're playing the, you have the story. Oh yeah. And then it just, you're like, whoa, man, I'm coming

439
00:46:04,780 --> 00:46:08,300
up on the end of it here. And it's like, all right, so now that tutorial is over. So now that you're on a tutorial island.

440
00:46:09,340 --> 00:46:16,460
You're like, ah, what? I thought, I thought we just saved the world. Like, no, you maybe doomed the world.

441
00:46:16,460 --> 00:46:23,740
Actually. And now you're actually the BBG. You're being conned at the whole time. I love that shit.

442
00:46:24,380 --> 00:46:31,660
So I do, I can't, I want to do a Dragon Quest game so bad, but it's going to be a time where we have

443
00:46:31,660 --> 00:46:39,580
to do like an extra long space between recording. I do. I want to be able to put some time into

444
00:46:39,580 --> 00:46:47,100
a Dragon Quest game for sure. And it is also nice. There are some where you can, some of these games,

445
00:46:47,100 --> 00:46:53,100
you have to grind. Some of them, it gives you a good amount of the story before it all of a sudden

446
00:46:53,100 --> 00:47:00,380
is like grind wall. Yeah. So I think no matter what, you're still going to get a great taste of it.

447
00:47:00,380 --> 00:47:05,980
When we get to it, we, like I said, we aren't doing Dragon Quest. We're doing Dragon Ball Z,

448
00:47:05,980 --> 00:47:18,220
which is the Attack of the Saiyans. Yeah. It looks, it looks like a 2D top-downish RPG. Yeah.

449
00:47:18,220 --> 00:47:24,460
And I'm, I'm here for it. It looked like we saw like what? A trailer, I think worth of content.

450
00:47:24,460 --> 00:47:31,260
And it looks, it looks pretty cool. It looks, yeah. The animation in it looks awesome. Of course.

451
00:47:31,260 --> 00:47:34,460
Oh yeah dude, oh man dude.

452
00:47:34,460 --> 00:47:38,180
I kinda wanna go back and watch just Dragon Ball again.

453
00:47:38,180 --> 00:47:40,480
I have had that same thought.

454
00:47:40,480 --> 00:47:42,060
Cause that is,

455
00:47:43,660 --> 00:47:47,180
I don't know if I've ever seen either one

456
00:47:48,420 --> 00:47:50,300
totally in completion.

457
00:47:50,300 --> 00:47:55,300
I'm sure, I mean I'm sure Dragon Ball Z I saw

458
00:47:56,260 --> 00:47:59,960
as it was airing, I remember like running home from school

459
00:47:59,960 --> 00:48:04,240
to get home in time to catch the beginning of Dragon Ball Z.

460
00:48:05,280 --> 00:48:06,940
If you got there too early, you would have watched

461
00:48:06,940 --> 00:48:09,340
Sailor Moon for a little bit

462
00:48:09,340 --> 00:48:11,200
and then Dragon Ball Z would come on.

463
00:48:11,200 --> 00:48:13,700
So you start to kind of get this little bit of intrigue

464
00:48:13,700 --> 00:48:15,980
into Sailor Moon but you'd never admit that.

465
00:48:15,980 --> 00:48:17,620
That's so funny.

466
00:48:17,620 --> 00:48:19,220
So that's what, I'm sure.

467
00:48:19,220 --> 00:48:20,940
I've been told I need to watch Sailor Moon.

468
00:48:20,940 --> 00:48:22,520
I've never seen it.

469
00:48:22,520 --> 00:48:24,420
I remember putting it on a couple episodes

470
00:48:24,420 --> 00:48:27,580
and it's entertaining but it's high school girls

471
00:48:27,580 --> 00:48:30,300
so it's like, this isn't for me.

472
00:48:30,300 --> 00:48:31,940
That's fair.

473
00:48:31,940 --> 00:48:33,780
And also they're not really high school girls.

474
00:48:33,780 --> 00:48:36,380
They're 13 or 12.

475
00:48:36,380 --> 00:48:40,140
But you know how anime is, they're high school girls.

476
00:48:41,180 --> 00:48:44,200
Well and yeah, that's all we'll say about that.

477
00:48:47,020 --> 00:48:50,140
So I don't know if I have,

478
00:48:50,140 --> 00:48:53,100
I'm sure that I watched it from beginning

479
00:48:53,100 --> 00:48:56,260
to the end of the Dragon Ball Z saga.

480
00:48:56,260 --> 00:49:01,260
It ends with Boo, I believe is the last one.

481
00:49:01,460 --> 00:49:02,700
I don't remember which,

482
00:49:02,700 --> 00:49:05,100
because Boo's not done done at the end

483
00:49:05,100 --> 00:49:07,300
because what's the arc?

484
00:49:07,300 --> 00:49:08,860
Because then is it Cell?

485
00:49:08,860 --> 00:49:10,260
Is Cell the last one?

486
00:49:11,340 --> 00:49:12,700
No, I'm pretty sure, no.

487
00:49:12,700 --> 00:49:15,900
It definitely goes, because Cell is before Boo.

488
00:49:15,900 --> 00:49:17,180
Cell's the green one.

489
00:49:17,180 --> 00:49:18,420
Right.

490
00:49:18,420 --> 00:49:20,180
So yeah, Frieza, Cell.

491
00:49:20,180 --> 00:49:23,580
Cell, Boo, Evil Boo, because Boo like splits.

492
00:49:23,580 --> 00:49:25,100
Oh yeah, you get Evil Boo, nice Boo.

493
00:49:25,100 --> 00:49:28,980
And then after that goes into Dragon Ball GT.

494
00:49:28,980 --> 00:49:30,620
Is that where you get Majin Boo or is Majin Boo?

495
00:49:30,620 --> 00:49:33,020
Majin Boo is part of the Boo.

496
00:49:33,020 --> 00:49:33,860
Yeah, in Z.

497
00:49:33,860 --> 00:49:35,220
Right, it's in Z.

498
00:49:35,220 --> 00:49:36,660
Yeah, I think it is, yeah.

499
00:49:36,660 --> 00:49:37,980
It's been a long time since I've seen it.

500
00:49:37,980 --> 00:49:40,020
That's where I, like I know I watched

501
00:49:40,020 --> 00:49:41,620
all of Dragon Ball Z I guess.

502
00:49:41,620 --> 00:49:44,780
I just don't remember it that well.

503
00:49:44,780 --> 00:49:45,980
I know there's a bridged version

504
00:49:45,980 --> 00:49:47,700
that people say what you should watch

505
00:49:47,700 --> 00:49:49,980
because the full of it's a lot.

506
00:49:49,980 --> 00:49:51,780
It's daunting, yeah.

507
00:49:51,780 --> 00:49:56,300
I haven't really seen much of anything after Z.

508
00:49:56,300 --> 00:49:58,660
I've seen snippets of the beginning of GT.

509
00:50:00,380 --> 00:50:01,300
I remember watching it a little bit,

510
00:50:01,300 --> 00:50:03,740
but that's around the time when it was like,

511
00:50:03,740 --> 00:50:06,540
it wasn't cool to be watching anime.

512
00:50:06,540 --> 00:50:10,540
I do remember that and my ability and access.

513
00:50:12,020 --> 00:50:15,500
Well once ability and access became an option again,

514
00:50:15,500 --> 00:50:19,460
I was more interested in like girls and hood rat shit.

515
00:50:19,460 --> 00:50:21,180
So.

516
00:50:21,180 --> 00:50:22,300
Yeah, I feel you there.

517
00:50:22,300 --> 00:50:23,540
I wasn't spending a lot of time

518
00:50:23,540 --> 00:50:25,300
in front of the computer back then.

519
00:50:25,300 --> 00:50:28,620
There are times where I'm very appreciative

520
00:50:28,620 --> 00:50:30,220
of my hood rat days.

521
00:50:31,300 --> 00:50:33,340
I'm glad I got it out before I had amassed

522
00:50:33,340 --> 00:50:35,740
anything real significant to lose.

523
00:50:35,740 --> 00:50:39,420
But at the same time, I sometimes feel like I missed out

524
00:50:39,420 --> 00:50:43,540
by not just full diving into the nerdy not leaving.

525
00:50:43,540 --> 00:50:44,380
Oh.

526
00:50:44,380 --> 00:50:45,580
The basement.

527
00:50:45,580 --> 00:50:47,100
Yeah, just be, what is it?

528
00:50:47,100 --> 00:50:49,020
I know I didn't miss out, right?

529
00:50:49,020 --> 00:50:52,180
I know I did, but you're always like, man,

530
00:50:52,180 --> 00:50:57,180
I wish I had seen all that shit or fully dived.

531
00:50:58,340 --> 00:51:01,660
Well and looking back, especially as we kind of dive

532
00:51:01,660 --> 00:51:06,660
into some semi retro stuff through the DS and this podcast,

533
00:51:06,740 --> 00:51:11,620
it definitely, one, is opening my eyes to all of the stuff

534
00:51:11,620 --> 00:51:13,300
that I had missed as a kid.

535
00:51:13,300 --> 00:51:15,940
And some of these I'm getting to revisit for the first time

536
00:51:15,940 --> 00:51:18,900
or revisit even, not quite as often as you I think,

537
00:51:18,900 --> 00:51:20,620
but yeah, to an extent still.

538
00:51:20,620 --> 00:51:21,700
Sure.

539
00:51:21,700 --> 00:51:23,860
And I've always wanted to play Dragon Quest game.

540
00:51:23,860 --> 00:51:24,820
We're gonna do that.

541
00:51:24,820 --> 00:51:26,900
And playing a lot of these other games

542
00:51:26,900 --> 00:51:30,780
and just reliving the joy that I had in handheld gaming,

543
00:51:31,940 --> 00:51:33,140
it's great.

544
00:51:33,140 --> 00:51:34,500
I do like it.

545
00:51:34,500 --> 00:51:35,340
Yeah.

546
00:51:35,340 --> 00:51:36,380
Like Phoenix Wright was a big one.

547
00:51:36,380 --> 00:51:38,700
Professor Layton was a big one.

548
00:51:38,700 --> 00:51:40,860
I'm gonna want to play some of those games.

549
00:51:40,860 --> 00:51:42,900
And now you have an understanding

550
00:51:42,900 --> 00:51:44,460
of a Mario game pretty well.

551
00:51:44,460 --> 00:51:45,300
Yeah.

552
00:51:45,300 --> 00:51:46,660
I'm kind of bummed I missed out on that

553
00:51:46,660 --> 00:51:49,380
because I've been sleeping on Mario and I would never

554
00:51:49,380 --> 00:51:50,260
have said it out loud,

555
00:51:50,260 --> 00:51:52,660
but I was talking some shit in my head about Mario.

556
00:51:52,660 --> 00:51:55,180
I was like, oh, okay, little baby game.

557
00:51:56,500 --> 00:51:58,140
And then I'm playing Mario and I'm like,

558
00:51:59,300 --> 00:52:00,340
fuck this game, dude.

559
00:52:00,340 --> 00:52:01,540
This game's kicking my ass.

560
00:52:01,540 --> 00:52:02,500
Yeah, it is.

561
00:52:03,460 --> 00:52:07,820
It's wild because people talk about how you can't take

562
00:52:07,820 --> 00:52:12,460
someone, an adult who isn't a gamer and put them in Halo.

563
00:52:12,460 --> 00:52:13,300
Yeah.

564
00:52:13,300 --> 00:52:17,300
And you have to start them where video games

565
00:52:17,300 --> 00:52:22,060
kind of start home console gaming really kicks off,

566
00:52:22,060 --> 00:52:23,780
which is Mario.

567
00:52:23,780 --> 00:52:24,620
Yeah.

568
00:52:24,620 --> 00:52:29,300
And it's a wild thing to think about having played

569
00:52:29,300 --> 00:52:33,940
how we have because the first level is doable.

570
00:52:33,940 --> 00:52:36,020
Second level also doable.

571
00:52:36,020 --> 00:52:37,580
Third level is underwater.

572
00:52:37,580 --> 00:52:38,820
And it's kind of a pain in the ass,

573
00:52:38,820 --> 00:52:39,660
but you can get through it.

574
00:52:39,660 --> 00:52:41,940
The whole first world you can beat.

575
00:52:41,940 --> 00:52:44,860
And it just progressively gets harder,

576
00:52:44,860 --> 00:52:49,180
but it does feel like it gets increasingly steeper.

577
00:52:49,180 --> 00:52:53,060
Well, it does a really good job of silent teaching.

578
00:52:53,060 --> 00:52:53,900
Yeah.

579
00:52:53,900 --> 00:52:54,740
Yeah.

580
00:52:54,740 --> 00:52:55,580
Yeah.

581
00:52:55,580 --> 00:52:57,940
Well, I say, I don't know,

582
00:52:57,940 --> 00:53:00,860
because I do have a background in playing video games.

583
00:53:00,860 --> 00:53:03,220
And like, even though I don't have a lot of hands on

584
00:53:03,220 --> 00:53:05,940
with Mario, like I've seen enough gameplay to know

585
00:53:05,940 --> 00:53:08,780
that there's some shit going on under the hood.

586
00:53:08,780 --> 00:53:11,260
That's maybe not explicitly defined,

587
00:53:11,260 --> 00:53:16,260
but even then like playing Super Mario World with Alyssa,

588
00:53:17,460 --> 00:53:21,020
like she had the, is it the Tatookey suit or whatever?

589
00:53:21,020 --> 00:53:25,020
And like you do a fucking back and forth, spin dash dive,

590
00:53:25,020 --> 00:53:26,380
and you fucking fly up into the air.

591
00:53:26,380 --> 00:53:27,220
Fly, yeah.

592
00:53:27,220 --> 00:53:28,220
Dude, she was already blowing my mind,

593
00:53:28,220 --> 00:53:29,860
ripping through some of these levels.

594
00:53:29,860 --> 00:53:31,020
And then she did that for the first time.

595
00:53:31,020 --> 00:53:33,740
And I was like, what the fuck was that, dude?

596
00:53:33,740 --> 00:53:35,180
Like what?

597
00:53:35,180 --> 00:53:37,020
And she doesn't even like know to explain it to you.

598
00:53:37,020 --> 00:53:38,260
Oh, she would not explain it to me.

599
00:53:38,260 --> 00:53:39,260
She was like, you have to figure it out

600
00:53:39,260 --> 00:53:40,100
just like everyone else.

601
00:53:40,100 --> 00:53:41,420
Like you mother fucker.

602
00:53:41,420 --> 00:53:43,140
And that's bullshit, because I bet.

603
00:53:43,140 --> 00:53:45,140
Well, like I didn't know there was a one button.

604
00:53:45,140 --> 00:53:48,660
Okay, so I learned this literally days before we started.

605
00:53:48,660 --> 00:53:51,700
I think we talked about it in the podcast.

606
00:53:51,700 --> 00:53:53,020
For new Super Mario Bros.

607
00:53:53,020 --> 00:53:54,660
I think we discussed it last episode.

608
00:53:54,660 --> 00:53:55,500
I think we might have.

609
00:53:55,500 --> 00:53:56,540
I think I remember blowing your mind

610
00:53:56,540 --> 00:53:57,780
that there was a run button.

611
00:53:57,780 --> 00:53:58,820
Two run buttons.

612
00:53:58,820 --> 00:53:59,660
Yeah.

613
00:53:59,660 --> 00:54:02,860
There's a sprint and there's a more sprint.

614
00:54:02,860 --> 00:54:05,620
Also sprint, but if you do them together, it's more sprint.

615
00:54:05,620 --> 00:54:08,220
It's more sprint immediately instead of more sprint

616
00:54:08,220 --> 00:54:09,540
after sprinting for a while.

617
00:54:09,540 --> 00:54:10,380
Yeah, I remember, yeah.

618
00:54:10,380 --> 00:54:11,220
Blew my mind, dude.

619
00:54:11,220 --> 00:54:14,420
It took me easily six lives to figure that out.

620
00:54:14,420 --> 00:54:16,220
Because like one, she was intentionally,

621
00:54:16,220 --> 00:54:18,340
I swear to God, she did this on purpose.

622
00:54:18,340 --> 00:54:20,900
She wouldn't sprint until right before a jump.

623
00:54:20,900 --> 00:54:23,740
So like, it took me forever to realize

624
00:54:23,740 --> 00:54:24,980
that she was sprinting.

625
00:54:27,820 --> 00:54:30,500
Huh, that's an interesting way of playing, I gotta say.

626
00:54:30,500 --> 00:54:32,940
Yeah, well you get a significant like boost

627
00:54:32,940 --> 00:54:34,020
when you sprint jump.

628
00:54:34,020 --> 00:54:35,300
And I've used that.

629
00:54:35,300 --> 00:54:37,020
I'll just like sprint jump.

630
00:54:37,020 --> 00:54:37,860
Yeah.

631
00:54:37,860 --> 00:54:38,700
And it's pretty.

632
00:54:38,700 --> 00:54:40,980
I think I know what you're talking about now.

633
00:54:40,980 --> 00:54:42,140
Yeah, but she would just like walk

634
00:54:42,140 --> 00:54:44,460
and then right before a ledge, she would just like tap.

635
00:54:44,460 --> 00:54:45,300
Yeah.

636
00:54:45,300 --> 00:54:47,460
Push him like at the same time almost.

637
00:54:47,460 --> 00:54:48,580
Huh, bitch.

638
00:54:48,580 --> 00:54:49,420
Bitch.

639
00:54:49,420 --> 00:54:51,340
God, I said bitch.

640
00:54:51,340 --> 00:54:52,180
Yeah.

641
00:54:54,180 --> 00:54:59,220
Yeah, good time struggling through what a game should be.

642
00:54:59,220 --> 00:55:03,340
Super rewarding, grueling at times, overall fun.

643
00:55:03,340 --> 00:55:05,540
Killer soundtrack as of course.

644
00:55:05,540 --> 00:55:06,380
Yeah.

645
00:55:06,380 --> 00:55:08,580
Visually stunning as we mentioned.

646
00:55:08,580 --> 00:55:12,860
I love the fact that they have a 3D model,

647
00:55:14,620 --> 00:55:16,100
but it looks so crisp.

648
00:55:16,100 --> 00:55:18,940
It's just, you almost didn't even notice that it's 3D

649
00:55:18,940 --> 00:55:21,300
until you see certain movements.

650
00:55:21,300 --> 00:55:22,980
And it just looks so good.

651
00:55:22,980 --> 00:55:23,820
Like you said.

652
00:55:23,820 --> 00:55:24,660
It looks delicious.

653
00:55:24,660 --> 00:55:27,460
I really, I really like it actually.

654
00:55:27,460 --> 00:55:28,300
It's cool.

655
00:55:28,300 --> 00:55:33,300
And I got a, Morgan and Ed got me a DSI for my birthday.

656
00:55:33,700 --> 00:55:34,540
Oh yeah, happy birthday again.

657
00:55:34,540 --> 00:55:37,580
Over the last week or two, I forget when it was.

658
00:55:37,580 --> 00:55:39,140
I'm so jealous.

659
00:55:39,140 --> 00:55:39,980
It is.

660
00:55:39,980 --> 00:55:41,700
It is actually so cool.

661
00:55:41,700 --> 00:55:42,980
I never know.

662
00:55:42,980 --> 00:55:45,860
I remember when the DSI was coming out or yeah.

663
00:55:45,860 --> 00:55:50,380
And I had a DS Lite and I just thought it wasn't worth it.

664
00:55:50,380 --> 00:55:51,860
You know, the upgrade.

665
00:55:51,860 --> 00:55:53,900
Also I was probably couldn't fucking afford it

666
00:55:53,900 --> 00:55:54,740
if I wanted to.

667
00:55:54,740 --> 00:55:55,980
Yeah, absolutely.

668
00:55:55,980 --> 00:55:57,300
But oh my God.

669
00:55:57,300 --> 00:55:59,260
And so since then I've just always thought like,

670
00:55:59,260 --> 00:56:00,740
ah, DSI is a waste of time

671
00:56:00,740 --> 00:56:03,060
because it doesn't have the GBA card.

672
00:56:03,060 --> 00:56:06,780
That was back in the day when you couldn't run GBA games

673
00:56:06,780 --> 00:56:08,020
on a DS card.

674
00:56:08,020 --> 00:56:08,860
Right.

675
00:56:08,860 --> 00:56:09,700
But now you can.

676
00:56:09,700 --> 00:56:10,540
Now you can.

677
00:56:10,540 --> 00:56:11,380
You can bypass that.

678
00:56:11,380 --> 00:56:13,860
So now DSI is the fucking way to go.

679
00:56:13,860 --> 00:56:18,340
I gotta say this D-pad, so good for this game.

680
00:56:18,340 --> 00:56:20,140
Oh, so Chris.

681
00:56:20,140 --> 00:56:23,220
So Chris, so mechanical feeling.

682
00:56:23,220 --> 00:56:26,140
Everything about it feels good, looks good.

683
00:56:26,140 --> 00:56:28,460
You can change that screen brightness so easily.

684
00:56:28,460 --> 00:56:31,340
Dude, and the screen just looks better.

685
00:56:31,340 --> 00:56:35,100
Like it is a fairly decent upgrade comparatively.

686
00:56:35,100 --> 00:56:37,220
Like, and I thought, I thought the,

687
00:56:37,220 --> 00:56:38,260
what is this, a DS Lite?

688
00:56:38,260 --> 00:56:39,100
DS Lite, yeah.

689
00:56:39,100 --> 00:56:40,700
Yeah, I thought the DS Lite looked great.

690
00:56:40,700 --> 00:56:42,900
Yeah, I did too.

691
00:56:42,900 --> 00:56:44,060
Damn.

692
00:56:44,060 --> 00:56:47,220
And it's a little bit bigger, but like also slimmer.

693
00:56:47,220 --> 00:56:49,740
Yeah, I mean, yeah, it still fits in my pocket just fine.

694
00:56:49,740 --> 00:56:51,620
I took it to work on accident the other day.

695
00:56:51,620 --> 00:56:52,660
That's great.

696
00:56:52,660 --> 00:56:53,700
Yeah.

697
00:56:53,700 --> 00:56:57,140
I always take mine to work, but usually I've left it on.

698
00:56:57,140 --> 00:56:59,060
And I keep a charger at work specifically

699
00:56:59,060 --> 00:57:00,540
so that I leave it in my backpack

700
00:57:00,540 --> 00:57:01,500
and it comes to work with me.

701
00:57:01,500 --> 00:57:03,220
I can remember to plug it in while I'm working

702
00:57:03,220 --> 00:57:05,180
so that way when I get off, it's charged.

703
00:57:05,180 --> 00:57:06,060
That's hilarious.

704
00:57:06,060 --> 00:57:06,900
It's ridiculous.

705
00:57:06,900 --> 00:57:09,820
Like I used to keep it plugged in at my nightstand,

706
00:57:09,820 --> 00:57:11,620
but I would forget to plug it in.

707
00:57:11,620 --> 00:57:14,420
And then somehow just taking my charger to work

708
00:57:14,420 --> 00:57:15,780
and plugging it in on my desk.

709
00:57:15,780 --> 00:57:17,100
Hey.

710
00:57:17,100 --> 00:57:18,500
That's how I remember to do it.

711
00:57:18,500 --> 00:57:19,340
I'm like, geez.

712
00:57:19,340 --> 00:57:22,100
I feel so cool, I have my DS on my desk.

713
00:57:22,100 --> 00:57:24,420
No, I usually like hide it under a stack of papers.

714
00:57:24,420 --> 00:57:26,260
That's smart.

715
00:57:26,260 --> 00:57:28,180
I'm like, man, this feels like the nerdiest thing.

716
00:57:28,180 --> 00:57:29,940
Do you think people even know what that is

717
00:57:29,940 --> 00:57:31,500
when they see that?

718
00:57:31,500 --> 00:57:33,180
Honestly, they'd probably look at it and be like,

719
00:57:33,180 --> 00:57:36,100
why do you have an external drive plugged into the network?

720
00:57:36,100 --> 00:57:38,460
It's not, I swear to God.

721
00:57:38,460 --> 00:57:43,460
Why are you using a 2004 hand, what were those called?

722
00:57:44,220 --> 00:57:45,060
The PDA?

723
00:57:45,060 --> 00:57:45,900
Yeah, the PDA.

724
00:57:45,900 --> 00:57:48,100
Yeah, nice PDA nerd.

725
00:57:48,100 --> 00:57:49,900
Where's your pager?

726
00:57:49,900 --> 00:57:52,940
Dude, I wanted a Palm Pilot so bad as a kid.

727
00:57:52,940 --> 00:57:54,820
My dad had one, I used to mess with it

728
00:57:54,820 --> 00:57:56,060
and just feel so cool.

729
00:57:56,060 --> 00:57:57,380
It was so cool, dude.

730
00:57:57,380 --> 00:57:59,300
Oh, fuck a pager.

731
00:57:59,300 --> 00:58:00,380
I wanted a Palm Pilot.

732
00:58:00,380 --> 00:58:01,220
Oh yeah.

733
00:58:01,220 --> 00:58:06,100
I still gravitate towards styluses.

734
00:58:06,100 --> 00:58:09,580
And unless you're shelling out for something like a fucking,

735
00:58:09,580 --> 00:58:13,380
oh, like an iPad Pro with the Apple Pencil or whatever,

736
00:58:13,380 --> 00:58:16,740
or Apple Pen, fuck off.

737
00:58:16,740 --> 00:58:19,020
Well, not that that's the only good quality.

738
00:58:19,020 --> 00:58:21,820
There's a lot of other standalone tablets

739
00:58:21,820 --> 00:58:22,900
that are actually really good.

740
00:58:22,900 --> 00:58:25,660
But most of those are in the digital creative space,

741
00:58:26,660 --> 00:58:29,180
which is sensible.

742
00:58:29,180 --> 00:58:30,820
That's fair, it makes sense, I guess.

743
00:58:30,820 --> 00:58:32,500
I guess they need the pens.

744
00:58:32,500 --> 00:58:33,340
Yeah.

745
00:58:34,700 --> 00:58:36,620
I had the Samsung Note.

746
00:58:37,980 --> 00:58:40,380
Yeah, where you could get the stylus.

747
00:58:40,380 --> 00:58:41,220
Yeah, I remember you getting that.

748
00:58:41,220 --> 00:58:44,260
Fuck, I drew so many dick pics on my phone.

749
00:58:44,260 --> 00:58:47,100
That's what I did, I was drawing dicks all the time, dude.

750
00:58:47,100 --> 00:58:49,140
Meetings at work, dicks.

751
00:58:49,140 --> 00:58:50,900
I wanna try to use on this DSI,

752
00:58:50,900 --> 00:58:53,860
speaking of which, not for dicks.

753
00:58:53,860 --> 00:58:55,860
They have the PictoChat

754
00:58:55,860 --> 00:58:59,580
and there's another one on there for drawing.

755
00:58:59,580 --> 00:59:04,580
And it looks so fun having seen people's videos

756
00:59:04,900 --> 00:59:07,060
and I'm curious just to how it works.

757
00:59:07,060 --> 00:59:10,740
Because it looks like it's a very easy to learn animator.

758
00:59:11,620 --> 00:59:12,500
That's kinda cool.

759
00:59:12,500 --> 00:59:17,500
If I'm wrong, email us at podcastpodcastatgmail.com.

760
00:59:18,380 --> 00:59:20,260
No exclamation mark in there.

761
00:59:20,260 --> 00:59:22,140
Not like our podcast name.

762
00:59:22,140 --> 00:59:23,700
Right, we like to keep it simple.

763
00:59:23,700 --> 00:59:25,620
Yeah, we're not yelling at you over email.

764
00:59:25,620 --> 00:59:29,620
Correct, we're politely forecasting the truth.

765
00:59:29,620 --> 00:59:32,100
Mm-hmm, we wanna hear from you.

766
00:59:32,100 --> 00:59:33,700
Do you play the game with us?

767
00:59:33,700 --> 00:59:36,100
Have you played the game before?

768
00:59:36,100 --> 00:59:36,940
Do you hate it, do you love it?

769
00:59:36,940 --> 00:59:40,860
Do you wanna elevate your Pocket Cast listening experience?

770
00:59:40,860 --> 00:59:43,100
Play the game, but with us.

771
00:59:43,100 --> 00:59:44,740
That's, yeah, that's the whole idea.

772
00:59:44,740 --> 00:59:46,340
Come prepare to class next time.

773
00:59:46,340 --> 00:59:49,020
Yeah, have some opinions coming into listening to us talk

774
00:59:49,020 --> 00:59:51,340
and be like, you guys are fucking idiots.

775
00:59:51,340 --> 00:59:52,740
You're just bad at this game.

776
00:59:52,740 --> 00:59:57,580
Like, yeah, never died once, beat the game,

777
00:59:57,580 --> 01:00:01,100
you guys are trash, accurate, accurate.

778
01:00:01,100 --> 01:00:02,260
Send proof.

779
01:00:02,260 --> 01:00:03,380
Yeah, send proof.

780
01:00:03,380 --> 01:00:05,620
Send proof when you're gonna come with these words.

781
01:00:05,620 --> 01:00:06,540
Right.

782
01:00:06,540 --> 01:00:08,340
Know who you're coming at, Pocket Cast.

783
01:00:08,340 --> 01:00:11,780
Right, send us via a polite email.

784
01:00:11,780 --> 01:00:12,620
Let us know.

785
01:00:12,620 --> 01:00:14,100
We might send you one back.

786
01:00:14,100 --> 01:00:15,020
We probably will.

787
01:00:15,020 --> 01:00:16,780
But it'll be vulgar.

788
01:00:16,780 --> 01:00:18,540
It'll be rude.

789
01:00:18,540 --> 01:00:20,900
We're rude guys, we're standing rude guys.

790
01:00:20,900 --> 01:00:22,580
We are.

791
01:00:22,580 --> 01:00:24,660
This was a, I like it.

792
01:00:24,660 --> 01:00:26,140
I like standing in recording.

793
01:00:26,140 --> 01:00:26,980
This is nice.

794
01:00:26,980 --> 01:00:27,820
I think I should have worn shoes.

795
01:00:27,820 --> 01:00:28,940
I should have worn comfier shoes.

796
01:00:28,940 --> 01:00:30,980
My feet are hurting from the hardwood floor.

797
01:00:30,980 --> 01:00:32,220
Yeah, these are sitting shoes.

798
01:00:32,220 --> 01:00:34,860
They have hardly any soul to speak of.

799
01:00:34,860 --> 01:00:37,340
And Jesus Christ, it feels like my shins

800
01:00:37,340 --> 01:00:39,060
are standing on the floor.

801
01:00:39,060 --> 01:00:42,420
So I think on that note, we're gonna wrap it up.

802
01:00:42,420 --> 01:00:43,500
Solid episode.

803
01:00:43,500 --> 01:00:44,460
Solid episode.

804
01:00:44,460 --> 01:00:45,820
Squeakless episode.

805
01:00:45,820 --> 01:00:50,820
That's a wrap. Squeakless.