1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:06,400 Hello and welcome to Pocket Cast's one year anniversary episode. 2 00:00:06,400 --> 00:00:09,040 I am Fletcher and I'm joined by Ed. 3 00:00:09,040 --> 00:00:10,040 Yo. 4 00:00:10,040 --> 00:00:13,640 And together we form the greatest retro podcast- 5 00:00:13,640 --> 00:00:14,640 OBJECTION! 6 00:00:14,640 --> 00:00:17,240 That's some bullshit cap right there son. 7 00:00:17,240 --> 00:00:20,320 Hmm, I've got some evidence to support this. 8 00:00:20,320 --> 00:00:21,320 Oh, okay. 9 00:00:21,320 --> 00:00:22,320 Take that! 10 00:00:22,320 --> 00:00:23,320 Look at these numbers. 11 00:00:23,320 --> 00:00:26,640 Look at these numbers bro! 12 00:00:26,640 --> 00:00:32,160 Okay my bad, my bad, maybe we are the single greatest retro video game podcast you've 13 00:00:32,160 --> 00:00:33,160 ever seen. 14 00:00:33,160 --> 00:00:34,160 OBJECTION! 15 00:00:34,160 --> 00:00:35,160 What the fuck! 16 00:00:35,160 --> 00:00:41,760 I told you you couldn't trust this man and that he was spineless and thus I have proved 17 00:00:41,760 --> 00:00:43,880 that my case was solid. 18 00:00:43,880 --> 00:00:44,880 What? 19 00:00:44,880 --> 00:00:46,640 You've got no backbone. 20 00:00:46,640 --> 00:00:47,840 I've got no backbone. 21 00:00:47,840 --> 00:00:49,240 I got like a little backbone. 22 00:00:49,240 --> 00:00:50,240 I got baby back. 23 00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:53,200 Alright, that would be your name in this game that we played. 24 00:00:53,200 --> 00:00:54,200 Baby back. 25 00:00:54,200 --> 00:00:55,200 Phoenix Wright. 26 00:00:55,200 --> 00:00:57,360 It's a dirty. 27 00:00:57,360 --> 00:00:58,800 Baby backbone. 28 00:00:58,800 --> 00:01:02,680 Your first name would be baby and your last name would be backbone and you'd be like a 29 00:01:02,680 --> 00:01:04,880 business looking man. 30 00:01:04,880 --> 00:01:07,520 But you just have like really baby face. 31 00:01:07,520 --> 00:01:11,640 Like super, like just a baby's face on a big man. 32 00:01:11,640 --> 00:01:12,860 Oh, so. 33 00:01:12,860 --> 00:01:13,860 Maybe even at one point. 34 00:01:13,860 --> 00:01:16,860 Boss baby but like with a full body. 35 00:01:16,860 --> 00:01:20,040 Proportionately sized baby face or like just- 36 00:01:20,040 --> 00:01:21,040 Yeah, proportionately. 37 00:01:21,040 --> 00:01:22,040 Alright, fair. 38 00:01:22,040 --> 00:01:23,040 It's on the face. 39 00:01:23,040 --> 00:01:25,760 Yeah, I can picture them drying that up. 40 00:01:25,760 --> 00:01:28,200 Yeah, not one of us probably. 41 00:01:28,200 --> 00:01:31,120 I don't know but you've been pretty handy with your little- 42 00:01:31,120 --> 00:01:32,120 Not us, no. 43 00:01:32,120 --> 00:01:36,280 I'm saying the artist of the game. 44 00:01:36,280 --> 00:01:38,720 Oh, yeah. 45 00:01:38,720 --> 00:01:41,000 They would full dive into that. 46 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:42,800 They would love that idea. 47 00:01:42,800 --> 00:01:45,320 You'll see it on the next Phoenix Wright game. 48 00:01:45,320 --> 00:01:47,560 I fucking hope so. 49 00:01:47,560 --> 00:01:49,160 I fucking love this game, bro. 50 00:01:49,160 --> 00:01:54,920 I said something about wanting crack vibes in the last episode. 51 00:01:54,920 --> 00:01:56,360 I remember that. 52 00:01:56,360 --> 00:01:58,440 And man, did I get them. 53 00:01:58,440 --> 00:01:59,440 Yeah, dude. 54 00:01:59,440 --> 00:02:02,600 I have some over the top personalities in this game. 55 00:02:02,600 --> 00:02:09,800 This was, if you've listened in the past, this is Hotel Dusk. 56 00:02:09,800 --> 00:02:11,480 Ooh. 57 00:02:11,480 --> 00:02:15,640 Meets attorney, the bird man attorney at law. 58 00:02:15,640 --> 00:02:17,980 Oh, sure, sure, sure. 59 00:02:17,980 --> 00:02:21,360 This is adult swim version of Hotel Dusk. 60 00:02:21,360 --> 00:02:23,560 It is a little racy at times. 61 00:02:23,560 --> 00:02:27,840 There are some of the things said are the different- 62 00:02:27,840 --> 00:02:36,280 Well, that's what happens when you try to play Godfletcher and I'm going to put shit 63 00:02:36,280 --> 00:02:37,280 over on the table. 64 00:02:37,280 --> 00:02:38,280 Yeah, I should have just let the chaos happen. 65 00:02:38,280 --> 00:02:41,200 I and all people should know that. 66 00:02:41,200 --> 00:02:49,840 I was thinking it was like Hotel Dusk meets Professor Layton. 67 00:02:49,840 --> 00:02:50,840 Yeah. 68 00:02:50,840 --> 00:02:53,280 Such Layton-y vibes. 69 00:02:53,280 --> 00:03:00,520 I think, I want to say the gameplay to an extent, I suppose, but also I felt like dialogue 70 00:03:00,520 --> 00:03:03,040 wise, there was just a bit of edginess to it. 71 00:03:03,040 --> 00:03:06,280 Although in Professor Layton, it's obviously much more PG. 72 00:03:06,280 --> 00:03:07,280 Yeah. 73 00:03:07,280 --> 00:03:10,400 There are some dark undertones, but they deliver him Disney style. 74 00:03:10,400 --> 00:03:17,000 See, and that's where I went into this game kind of knowing what to expect a little bit. 75 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:19,440 Yeah, I had an idea. 76 00:03:19,440 --> 00:03:27,880 But then I went into it kind of knowing what to expect a little bit, but then I did not 77 00:03:27,880 --> 00:03:31,240 expect the adultness of this. 78 00:03:31,240 --> 00:03:33,720 I thought this was totally a kid's game. 79 00:03:33,720 --> 00:03:37,920 This is definitely not a game I would give a kid. 80 00:03:37,920 --> 00:03:43,720 Because TNA, there's a lot of gruesome talk. 81 00:03:43,720 --> 00:03:44,720 Yeah. 82 00:03:44,720 --> 00:03:49,680 It's still all pretty PG. 83 00:03:49,680 --> 00:03:55,720 There's no swearing or anything, but sometimes the subject matter or the way people are represented. 84 00:03:55,720 --> 00:03:56,800 Tits are out, dude. 85 00:03:56,800 --> 00:03:58,600 There are mad titties in this game. 86 00:03:58,600 --> 00:04:00,480 Mad big titties in this game. 87 00:04:00,480 --> 00:04:01,480 It's fantastic. 88 00:04:01,480 --> 00:04:06,320 It's really like compared to what we have played, it isn't nice. 89 00:04:06,320 --> 00:04:07,320 It was refreshing. 90 00:04:07,320 --> 00:04:08,320 It was. 91 00:04:08,320 --> 00:04:10,280 I have a little eye candy. 92 00:04:10,280 --> 00:04:17,200 I was telling you before, it really made me be like, man, if I was fucking 15 or 16 playing 93 00:04:17,200 --> 00:04:20,920 this game, rule 34 all day, dude. 94 00:04:20,920 --> 00:04:25,760 They build the characters well enough too that you really sink your teeth into them. 95 00:04:25,760 --> 00:04:26,760 Oh, I would absolutely. 96 00:04:26,760 --> 00:04:29,200 Yeah, no, I would absolutely take advantage. 97 00:04:29,200 --> 00:04:30,800 We should later take advantage of this. 98 00:04:30,800 --> 00:04:31,800 Absolutely. 99 00:04:31,800 --> 00:04:33,800 Market research for the podcast. 100 00:04:33,800 --> 00:04:34,800 Yeah. 101 00:04:34,800 --> 00:04:41,560 You know what's hilarious is I thought that the formula for this game, we've 100% experienced 102 00:04:41,560 --> 00:04:50,160 before, but it's on a specific website and it's a flash game and it's probably like a 103 00:04:50,160 --> 00:04:54,440 slightly porno-esque like eSIM dating. 104 00:04:54,440 --> 00:04:55,440 Like underground. 105 00:04:55,440 --> 00:04:56,440 Yeah, dude. 106 00:04:56,440 --> 00:04:59,920 Like back in the day, that's kind of got the same vibe. 107 00:04:59,920 --> 00:05:02,360 The subject matter was obviously different. 108 00:05:02,360 --> 00:05:03,840 Because it's just a talking simulator. 109 00:05:03,840 --> 00:05:04,840 Is that what you mean? 110 00:05:04,840 --> 00:05:05,840 100%. 111 00:05:05,840 --> 00:05:06,840 Yeah. 112 00:05:06,840 --> 00:05:10,240 And it's like you have to go into certain places and hit certain conversational points 113 00:05:10,240 --> 00:05:16,480 and then you have your trial and testimony and all that shit, which is its own kind of 114 00:05:16,480 --> 00:05:18,520 little pocket of gameplay. 115 00:05:18,520 --> 00:05:21,800 But yeah, it's just a talking sim, but it's entertaining as fuck. 116 00:05:21,800 --> 00:05:23,560 It is so entertaining. 117 00:05:23,560 --> 00:05:33,520 I played this game so much and I just wanted to play it more. 118 00:05:33,520 --> 00:05:37,880 There are some games that we've covered, games that I enjoy, games that I've played in the 119 00:05:37,880 --> 00:05:41,120 past and I know I like the game, but it's a chore-ish to play it. 120 00:05:41,120 --> 00:05:42,880 I don't want to, there's certain things. 121 00:05:42,880 --> 00:05:45,080 I'm just playing it to play it. 122 00:05:45,080 --> 00:05:49,520 This game was like, when I'm at work, I'm thinking about getting off work and playing 123 00:05:49,520 --> 00:05:50,720 this game. 124 00:05:50,720 --> 00:05:53,720 That doesn't actually just go for this podcast. 125 00:05:53,720 --> 00:05:55,080 That goes for video games. 126 00:05:55,080 --> 00:06:00,520 In a long time, I have not had that feeling of like, oh, I can't wait to go. 127 00:06:00,520 --> 00:06:05,680 I fucking love playing Far Cry with you, but the game is like, I don't know, it's the same 128 00:06:05,680 --> 00:06:09,280 fucking game we've played for like three years, right? 129 00:06:09,280 --> 00:06:16,440 But this game had me wanting to come back to specifically play this game, experience 130 00:06:16,440 --> 00:06:20,080 the game, find out what's going to happen next in the case. 131 00:06:20,080 --> 00:06:27,120 Because the funniest thing is that you are a lawyer who is, I thought getting into this 132 00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:28,120 game. 133 00:06:28,120 --> 00:06:35,640 Now, mind you, we have been exposed to media and we already know about Phoenix Wright. 134 00:06:35,640 --> 00:06:41,240 And so I think of him as a legit lawyer. 135 00:06:41,240 --> 00:06:42,240 Oh, okay. 136 00:06:42,240 --> 00:06:46,280 But you take over Phoenix at the very beginning of his career. 137 00:06:46,280 --> 00:06:47,280 Yeah. 138 00:06:47,280 --> 00:06:49,160 And he is just as lost as you are. 139 00:06:49,160 --> 00:06:50,160 Oh, bro. 140 00:06:50,160 --> 00:06:55,120 I didn't expect all of his like facial reactions of being like, oh fuck. 141 00:06:55,120 --> 00:06:57,800 Yeah, it's super anime-esque. 142 00:06:57,800 --> 00:07:00,080 I thought he was a cold, cold character. 143 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:01,080 Like a cool dude. 144 00:07:01,080 --> 00:07:02,080 Yeah. 145 00:07:02,080 --> 00:07:03,080 Not a cool dude. 146 00:07:03,080 --> 00:07:04,080 Very awkward. 147 00:07:04,080 --> 00:07:05,080 Fucking awesome. 148 00:07:05,080 --> 00:07:06,080 I love it. 149 00:07:06,080 --> 00:07:07,080 He's so relatable. 150 00:07:07,080 --> 00:07:08,080 Honestly. 151 00:07:08,080 --> 00:07:09,080 A great 24 year old. 152 00:07:09,080 --> 00:07:11,400 I thought he was portrayed very well. 153 00:07:11,400 --> 00:07:14,320 There's a comment made about him being 24. 154 00:07:14,320 --> 00:07:16,320 And yeah, I mean, it makes sense. 155 00:07:16,320 --> 00:07:19,840 You're just coming out of law school, probably around 24, 25. 156 00:07:19,840 --> 00:07:20,840 Sure. 157 00:07:20,840 --> 00:07:21,840 That tracks, I think. 158 00:07:21,840 --> 00:07:23,760 I know they go to school for a long fucking time. 159 00:07:23,760 --> 00:07:26,360 You're probably scared shitless. 160 00:07:26,360 --> 00:07:31,160 Dude, your first court case, dude. 161 00:07:31,160 --> 00:07:35,480 I mean, like everybody's got to have a first day of work sometimes, but I feel like doing 162 00:07:35,480 --> 00:07:39,080 that in court would be like, oh, this is a little intense. 163 00:07:39,080 --> 00:07:43,680 In Phoenix's case, it's his best friend that he's defending. 164 00:07:43,680 --> 00:07:44,680 Larry Butt. 165 00:07:44,680 --> 00:07:45,680 Dude, what? 166 00:07:45,680 --> 00:07:46,680 Okay. 167 00:07:46,680 --> 00:07:49,520 The fucking names of people in this game are great. 168 00:07:49,520 --> 00:07:50,520 Detective Gumshoe. 169 00:07:50,520 --> 00:07:51,520 Yes. 170 00:07:51,520 --> 00:07:52,520 Yeah. 171 00:07:52,520 --> 00:07:53,720 And what a fucking character he is. 172 00:07:53,720 --> 00:07:55,920 Dude, he grows on you so much. 173 00:07:55,920 --> 00:07:57,680 The first case, I fucking hate him. 174 00:07:57,680 --> 00:08:02,800 I was like this stupid ass idiot character who sucks balls and is just dumb for the sake 175 00:08:02,800 --> 00:08:03,800 of being dumb. 176 00:08:03,800 --> 00:08:06,640 Just this dumb cop character that just gets in the way. 177 00:08:06,640 --> 00:08:07,640 Yeah. 178 00:08:07,640 --> 00:08:10,240 And it's, oh, this mild disclaimer. 179 00:08:10,240 --> 00:08:14,920 If you thought that this game was going to like have any accurate reflection on a real 180 00:08:14,920 --> 00:08:20,920 life scenario for a court case, the roles of the specific people involved in these types 181 00:08:20,920 --> 00:08:26,560 of proceedings be them police officers, detectives, lawyers, judges. 182 00:08:26,560 --> 00:08:28,840 It doesn't matter. 183 00:08:28,840 --> 00:08:31,560 This is kangaroo court. 184 00:08:31,560 --> 00:08:35,840 You're a lawyer who's out there like honestly straight up committing crimes and like tampering 185 00:08:35,840 --> 00:08:38,600 with evidence and crime scenes. 186 00:08:38,600 --> 00:08:47,960 And there is short of in name, there's zero correlation between real life court and investigation 187 00:08:47,960 --> 00:08:49,960 stuff in this game. 188 00:08:49,960 --> 00:08:51,400 But it's fucking awesome. 189 00:08:51,400 --> 00:08:52,400 And I'm here for it. 190 00:08:52,400 --> 00:08:53,400 It's so wild. 191 00:08:53,400 --> 00:08:58,760 It fucks with your head so hard because even coming from, I like the show suits. 192 00:08:58,760 --> 00:09:05,440 I probably watched a good few seasons of suits and even I thought that the rules of court 193 00:09:05,440 --> 00:09:07,280 in this game were ridiculous. 194 00:09:07,280 --> 00:09:10,280 Literally kangaroo court. 195 00:09:10,280 --> 00:09:11,880 This is nuts, man. 196 00:09:11,880 --> 00:09:17,680 I have to assume that my knowledge of court is pretty fucking far fetched. 197 00:09:17,680 --> 00:09:24,520 You know, it's all based on either television or my personal experience in the court system 198 00:09:24,520 --> 00:09:29,280 in a small town, which is definitely not how it wasn't a court. 199 00:09:29,280 --> 00:09:34,080 It's not a, there's no jury or anything involved in just getting fucking charges pressed against 200 00:09:34,080 --> 00:09:35,800 me by the state. 201 00:09:35,800 --> 00:09:37,760 It's not anything like that. 202 00:09:37,760 --> 00:09:46,160 So my imagination of it because of TV, it's already ridiculously out of hand. 203 00:09:46,160 --> 00:09:49,800 And then yet this game fucking makes that look realistic. 204 00:09:49,800 --> 00:10:00,840 Oh dude, it's so the judge is, it's so everything is so arbitrary, dude. 205 00:10:00,840 --> 00:10:07,840 It's basically like a battle of wits between you and the other lawyer and the, and the 206 00:10:07,840 --> 00:10:10,680 different NPCs will come in and they'll give their testimony. 207 00:10:10,680 --> 00:10:17,200 And like the whole gimmick of court is they'll give like a four or five panel conversational 208 00:10:17,200 --> 00:10:20,920 piece, like one sentence at a time, or they'll say like one thing at a time and you cycle 209 00:10:20,920 --> 00:10:23,360 through them and then that's their testimony. 210 00:10:23,360 --> 00:10:29,200 And you have to try to match it to evidence that disproves or shows a contradiction. 211 00:10:29,200 --> 00:10:33,160 And like sometimes it's really obvious, like I was there at nine and you're like, well, 212 00:10:33,160 --> 00:10:37,120 I have this piece of paper that said the thing happened at nine Oh five or some shit. 213 00:10:37,120 --> 00:10:42,800 And then other times it's like, you just, you just randomly reveal a new piece of information 214 00:10:42,800 --> 00:10:47,920 about a specific thing you had in your court record inventory that was never said before. 215 00:10:47,920 --> 00:10:48,920 And it's, it's a gotcha. 216 00:10:48,920 --> 00:10:49,920 And you're like, what the fuck? 217 00:10:49,920 --> 00:10:50,920 I just got, he did it. 218 00:10:50,920 --> 00:10:56,920 Like I didn't, I didn't, like what, like what, how does that disprove me at all? 219 00:10:56,920 --> 00:10:57,920 He had secret evidence. 220 00:10:57,920 --> 00:10:58,920 Yeah, yeah. 221 00:10:58,920 --> 00:11:02,840 There was a lot of guessing at times, but some of them were easy. 222 00:11:02,840 --> 00:11:07,280 But some of them though, the way would trick you because you would think you would use 223 00:11:07,280 --> 00:11:09,920 rational thought on this fucking court case. 224 00:11:09,920 --> 00:11:10,920 No, it's kangaroo court. 225 00:11:10,920 --> 00:11:11,920 You can't be doing that. 226 00:11:11,920 --> 00:11:14,960 I'm bringing up some evidence that would make sense against this person. 227 00:11:14,960 --> 00:11:21,160 Um, I wish I could remember the exact example, but it was probably the first court hearing. 228 00:11:21,160 --> 00:11:25,440 There's two different things that I could have chosen that would have both, you know, 229 00:11:25,440 --> 00:11:27,080 he fucked up twice on his testimony. 230 00:11:27,080 --> 00:11:28,080 Right. 231 00:11:28,080 --> 00:11:31,560 And I have two different pieces of evidence for it, but only one of them is what it wants 232 00:11:31,560 --> 00:11:33,600 you to choose. 233 00:11:33,600 --> 00:11:35,400 And the other one is just wrong. 234 00:11:35,400 --> 00:11:40,800 And you lose a point that there was a couple of times where I lost enough points that I 235 00:11:40,800 --> 00:11:45,000 was starting to stress because you're close enough to the end of the trial and you're 236 00:11:45,000 --> 00:11:47,000 like, I don't want to start over. 237 00:11:47,000 --> 00:11:48,000 Yeah, dude. 238 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:49,000 Okay. 239 00:11:49,000 --> 00:11:50,760 So in this, in the second one, right? 240 00:11:50,760 --> 00:11:55,920 So you have this, you have this receipt that the, the victim wrote in blood, the name of 241 00:11:55,920 --> 00:12:01,520 her sister and just randomly like, like, and you only 242 00:12:01,520 --> 00:12:05,280 acquire so many pieces of evidence that you can reflect on. 243 00:12:05,280 --> 00:12:09,720 And like, they have like a one, maybe two sentence blur that describes them. 244 00:12:09,720 --> 00:12:15,440 And you're basically just as close as you can, hopefully compare what is said in these 245 00:12:15,440 --> 00:12:18,040 testimonies, which gets revised endlessly. 246 00:12:18,040 --> 00:12:21,760 They're just like, Oh, sorry, I misspoke. 247 00:12:21,760 --> 00:12:25,560 And then now you have to disprove something else, but the, you, you only have so many 248 00:12:25,560 --> 00:12:26,560 pieces of evidence. 249 00:12:26,560 --> 00:12:31,440 And this April, May, Oh dude, she's just like, look over the receipt. 250 00:12:31,440 --> 00:12:36,480 And then your character just flips it over and it's the details on the receipt, like 251 00:12:36,480 --> 00:12:39,920 disprove and it's the, it's the case closer. 252 00:12:39,920 --> 00:12:45,120 And then you're like, what that was, I've been waiting to use this the whole time. 253 00:12:45,120 --> 00:12:53,240 So when I'm curious, did you think because her name, the, the lady who is involved in 254 00:12:53,240 --> 00:12:57,440 this whole scenario's name is April, May, Miss April, May. 255 00:12:57,440 --> 00:12:58,440 Yeah. 256 00:12:58,440 --> 00:13:04,160 She's the hot, hot secretary that's like wooing the court with her titties and eyelashes. 257 00:13:04,160 --> 00:13:05,160 Absolutely. 258 00:13:05,160 --> 00:13:09,040 And she is too, like anytime she is in trouble, all of a sudden her fucking tits pop out. 259 00:13:09,040 --> 00:13:13,280 Like, there's like five different animations that they draw for these characters. 260 00:13:13,280 --> 00:13:17,800 And one of them is just like her, just like arms crossed, kind of looking normal. 261 00:13:17,800 --> 00:13:24,160 And then the next one is just like full on like, oh yeah, she's got her kitty cat face 262 00:13:24,160 --> 00:13:25,160 going. 263 00:13:25,160 --> 00:13:35,080 Yeah, dude fucking anyways, Maya is this chick's sister, the, the victim's sister. 264 00:13:35,080 --> 00:13:36,080 Yeah. 265 00:13:36,080 --> 00:13:40,520 And Maya's name is written on a receipt. 266 00:13:40,520 --> 00:13:45,960 So if you look at this receipt, the A is a little weird. 267 00:13:45,960 --> 00:13:46,960 Okay. 268 00:13:46,960 --> 00:13:47,960 Sure. 269 00:13:47,960 --> 00:13:48,960 I remember. 270 00:13:48,960 --> 00:13:50,960 So I'm thinking she's writing the name of the killer, May. 271 00:13:50,960 --> 00:13:55,080 Oh, and then dies after accidentally just only writing her sister's name. 272 00:13:55,080 --> 00:13:58,120 And then someone comes in and adds the fucking A in. 273 00:13:58,120 --> 00:14:01,320 Oh, you know, Nope. 274 00:14:01,320 --> 00:14:03,320 That's not why she wants you to look at the receipt. 275 00:14:03,320 --> 00:14:07,960 It's well, and it's, I think it's revealed, although never like clarified in court, but 276 00:14:07,960 --> 00:14:12,520 there's like a side conversation where it's like, no, you idiot. 277 00:14:12,520 --> 00:14:16,840 Like the killer wrote her name on the receipt to frame her. 278 00:14:16,840 --> 00:14:17,840 Yeah. 279 00:14:17,840 --> 00:14:21,960 But then I'm also thinking like, well, but also like this, like a little bit of forethought 280 00:14:21,960 --> 00:14:25,920 and like, you know, before she dies, she could have realized like, Oh, this is this receipt 281 00:14:25,920 --> 00:14:27,480 will actually like prove. 282 00:14:27,480 --> 00:14:29,040 I don't know how the fuck never add. 283 00:14:29,040 --> 00:14:30,040 Oh, it doesn't. 284 00:14:30,040 --> 00:14:31,040 Yeah. 285 00:14:31,040 --> 00:14:32,040 But it was dumb. 286 00:14:32,040 --> 00:14:33,040 It was so annoying. 287 00:14:33,040 --> 00:14:36,040 It was like, that's, that's the linchpin for this case because yeah. 288 00:14:36,040 --> 00:14:39,080 And I guess, you know, I don't want to give away spoilers in case you haven't played this 289 00:14:39,080 --> 00:14:45,280 super old game, which is kind of funny because I have listened to a podcast talk about this 290 00:14:45,280 --> 00:14:46,280 game. 291 00:14:46,280 --> 00:14:52,600 And I remember specifically listening to the episode because it was a game that I thought 292 00:14:52,600 --> 00:14:53,760 I would never play. 293 00:14:53,760 --> 00:14:59,480 I remember playing it when I was young, thinking this isn't for me and never coming back to 294 00:14:59,480 --> 00:15:00,480 it. 295 00:15:00,480 --> 00:15:04,760 And then like seeing it enough going, okay, I at least want to hear about this game because 296 00:15:04,760 --> 00:15:09,320 it's obviously earned some respect and I want to just know about it. 297 00:15:09,320 --> 00:15:12,000 So I think I might've caught some spoilers on it. 298 00:15:12,000 --> 00:15:13,000 Okay. 299 00:15:13,000 --> 00:15:18,400 But I was going to say one of the nice things about our podcast is you probably will never 300 00:15:18,400 --> 00:15:20,440 get spoilers from us. 301 00:15:20,440 --> 00:15:21,440 Very rarely. 302 00:15:21,440 --> 00:15:25,080 99% of the time we do not finish the game. 303 00:15:25,080 --> 00:15:26,080 Truth. 304 00:15:26,080 --> 00:15:27,080 Yeah. 305 00:15:27,080 --> 00:15:28,080 You're welcome guys. 306 00:15:28,080 --> 00:15:29,080 Honestly. 307 00:15:29,080 --> 00:15:30,080 Yeah. 308 00:15:30,080 --> 00:15:31,080 That's our gift to you guys. 309 00:15:31,080 --> 00:15:32,080 It really is. 310 00:15:32,080 --> 00:15:39,920 We're just, we're filling an entire hour, sometimes more on about maybe 20% gameplay. 311 00:15:39,920 --> 00:15:45,440 On this one, I definitely got three fourths of the way done because I was almost done 312 00:15:45,440 --> 00:15:47,440 with the turnabout. 313 00:15:47,440 --> 00:15:48,440 Samurai? 314 00:15:48,440 --> 00:15:49,440 Samurai. 315 00:15:49,440 --> 00:15:50,440 Yeah. 316 00:15:50,440 --> 00:15:51,440 Yeah. 317 00:15:51,440 --> 00:15:52,440 That's the one I had just started. 318 00:15:52,440 --> 00:15:56,280 I see, I straight up thought I finished the game and I was really pumped and you can ask 319 00:15:56,280 --> 00:15:58,720 Alyssa, I was like doing fist pumps in the end. 320 00:15:58,720 --> 00:16:01,040 I was like, ha, suck my dick Fletcher. 321 00:16:01,040 --> 00:16:03,000 I legit said that out loud. 322 00:16:03,000 --> 00:16:05,520 And then it was like, cause it said the end. 323 00:16:05,520 --> 00:16:06,520 Yeah. 324 00:16:06,520 --> 00:16:07,520 The end of the episode. 325 00:16:07,520 --> 00:16:08,520 Of the chapter episode. 326 00:16:08,520 --> 00:16:11,160 Yeah, I realized that now. 327 00:16:11,160 --> 00:16:12,680 Cause then it was like next chapter. 328 00:16:12,680 --> 00:16:21,400 And I was like, I'm curious to how it released because this is actually a GBA game. 329 00:16:21,400 --> 00:16:22,920 Oh, was it? 330 00:16:22,920 --> 00:16:23,920 Yeah. 331 00:16:23,920 --> 00:16:24,920 It released in Japan on the GBA. 332 00:16:24,920 --> 00:16:25,920 Damn. 333 00:16:25,920 --> 00:16:26,920 I didn't even look it up to be honest. 334 00:16:26,920 --> 00:16:30,040 First releases in America on the Nintendo DS. 335 00:16:30,040 --> 00:16:31,400 That's just something I fucking knew. 336 00:16:31,400 --> 00:16:33,600 I think probably from listening to that podcast episode. 337 00:16:33,600 --> 00:16:36,160 I had to look it up to double check, but yeah, that it is. 338 00:16:36,160 --> 00:16:39,960 Well, and I think if I really like thought about it at all, I probably could have figured 339 00:16:39,960 --> 00:16:44,080 that out just because of when I was thinking of like, when I remember first hearing about 340 00:16:44,080 --> 00:16:47,400 it was honestly back in the GBA days. 341 00:16:47,400 --> 00:16:54,560 Not that the DS's were close behind, but yeah, no, I guess it just didn't really, I was just 342 00:16:54,560 --> 00:16:57,280 like, yeah, we're playing a DS game and it's this game. 343 00:16:57,280 --> 00:16:58,280 So and DS original. 344 00:16:58,280 --> 00:16:59,280 I do that a lot. 345 00:16:59,280 --> 00:17:04,280 And I look it up and it's like, nah, this was the PlayStation game. 346 00:17:04,280 --> 00:17:09,040 I mean, I consider it an MDS. 347 00:17:09,040 --> 00:17:10,800 I guess not an original. 348 00:17:10,800 --> 00:17:14,320 You can't say that, but it's every game. 349 00:17:14,320 --> 00:17:19,000 I do think of that title similarly to some of the others that we've played. 350 00:17:19,000 --> 00:17:21,340 So and here's the thing. 351 00:17:21,340 --> 00:17:26,200 This game continues on on the DS for a long, for a while. 352 00:17:26,200 --> 00:17:27,760 There's at least a few. 353 00:17:27,760 --> 00:17:28,760 Yeah. 354 00:17:28,760 --> 00:17:34,720 There's a cross game between this and Professor Layton. 355 00:17:34,720 --> 00:17:35,720 Fuck off. 356 00:17:35,720 --> 00:17:36,720 Yeah, dude. 357 00:17:36,720 --> 00:17:37,720 What? 358 00:17:37,720 --> 00:17:38,720 Yeah, bro. 359 00:17:38,720 --> 00:17:39,720 Is it on the DS? 360 00:17:39,720 --> 00:17:40,720 DS or 3DS? 361 00:17:40,720 --> 00:17:43,320 I don't remember, but I believe it's one of them. 362 00:17:43,320 --> 00:17:44,320 We'll cover it. 363 00:17:44,320 --> 00:17:48,480 I can't, you know, that's like there are games that I want to make an exception for. 364 00:17:48,480 --> 00:17:49,960 We're at the year marker. 365 00:17:49,960 --> 00:17:52,440 Yeah, we can do whatever the fuck I've been. 366 00:17:52,440 --> 00:17:54,760 I want to make room for certain things. 367 00:17:54,760 --> 00:17:55,760 Yeah, dude. 368 00:17:55,760 --> 00:17:57,320 You want to cover a Call of Duty game? 369 00:17:57,320 --> 00:17:59,080 That's not like, I mean, like Warzone. 370 00:17:59,080 --> 00:18:00,760 Fuck, I'll do a Warzone episode with you. 371 00:18:00,760 --> 00:18:02,000 I don't fucking play that game. 372 00:18:02,000 --> 00:18:03,000 Yeah, right. 373 00:18:03,000 --> 00:18:09,720 There's certain things I think we can, you know, we can either make a special side recording 374 00:18:09,720 --> 00:18:10,720 of it. 375 00:18:10,720 --> 00:18:13,120 You know, we'll do like a Patreon only release. 376 00:18:13,120 --> 00:18:17,600 We can do Patreon only or we can just have some random extra episodes that we can throw 377 00:18:17,600 --> 00:18:20,560 out there for weeks where we're going to fuck up. 378 00:18:20,560 --> 00:18:21,560 You know? 379 00:18:21,560 --> 00:18:22,560 Sure. 380 00:18:22,560 --> 00:18:23,560 I like that idea. 381 00:18:23,560 --> 00:18:24,560 I do also. 382 00:18:24,560 --> 00:18:25,560 Double recording. 383 00:18:25,560 --> 00:18:27,200 You know, maybe do it for a Patreon. 384 00:18:27,200 --> 00:18:30,400 We joke about it a lot, but maybe why not? 385 00:18:30,400 --> 00:18:33,440 That would be the biggest joke of them all is if we actually do it. 386 00:18:33,440 --> 00:18:37,600 And I was like, you'll never know if we're actually joking or not. 387 00:18:37,600 --> 00:18:42,480 We could just really, we could just subscribing is free, but you have to pay for individual 388 00:18:42,480 --> 00:18:43,480 pieces of content. 389 00:18:43,480 --> 00:18:44,480 $50 paywall. 390 00:18:44,480 --> 00:18:47,480 Is that how only fans work? 391 00:18:47,480 --> 00:18:51,640 A little webcast of Pocket Cast. 392 00:18:51,640 --> 00:18:53,600 Yeah, no, I don't like it. 393 00:18:53,600 --> 00:18:54,600 I hate it. 394 00:18:54,600 --> 00:18:55,600 Yeah, I'm with you. 395 00:18:55,600 --> 00:18:58,640 It would be nice to have it to throw in for like sick days. 396 00:18:58,640 --> 00:18:59,640 Basically, dude. 397 00:18:59,640 --> 00:19:00,640 Yeah. 398 00:19:00,640 --> 00:19:05,720 When Pocket Cast is feeling a little down, down and it needs a little extra two weeks 399 00:19:05,720 --> 00:19:06,720 to finish the game. 400 00:19:06,720 --> 00:19:07,720 You know, shit happens. 401 00:19:07,720 --> 00:19:08,720 Shit do happen. 402 00:19:08,720 --> 00:19:09,720 We're on. 403 00:19:09,720 --> 00:19:10,720 I'm just surprised. 404 00:19:10,720 --> 00:19:12,280 This is episode 23. 405 00:19:12,280 --> 00:19:13,280 Yeah. 406 00:19:13,280 --> 00:19:16,880 Should be episode 24 at our year mark, right? 407 00:19:16,880 --> 00:19:22,320 Because we do two episodes a month abouts usually, but that's not bad. 408 00:19:22,320 --> 00:19:23,320 Yeah. 409 00:19:23,320 --> 00:19:24,320 So it's not too shabby. 410 00:19:24,320 --> 00:19:25,320 There we go. 411 00:19:25,320 --> 00:19:27,000 We were close to the mark. 412 00:19:27,000 --> 00:19:30,200 So I think we're going to so keep an ear out for that. 413 00:19:30,200 --> 00:19:31,200 Right. 414 00:19:31,200 --> 00:19:34,800 Maybe we'll have some fucking special episodes that we throw in there. 415 00:19:34,800 --> 00:19:39,120 And yeah, there's definitely some 3ds games that I want to cover that. 416 00:19:39,120 --> 00:19:41,360 And if you're going to be getting one, I know you. 417 00:19:41,360 --> 00:19:44,200 Yeah, I was I was thinking, did you pull the trigger? 418 00:19:44,200 --> 00:19:46,280 No, not yet. 419 00:19:46,280 --> 00:19:51,280 I'm still like on the fence because like, I do want to go 3ds. 420 00:19:51,280 --> 00:19:57,080 Especially for like play comfort, just because I feel like those are so much easier to hold 421 00:19:57,080 --> 00:19:58,080 on to. 422 00:19:58,080 --> 00:19:59,880 And then go the analog stick. 423 00:19:59,880 --> 00:20:00,880 Right. 424 00:20:00,880 --> 00:20:02,480 I hate the analog stick. 425 00:20:02,480 --> 00:20:03,480 Really? 426 00:20:03,480 --> 00:20:04,480 Yeah. 427 00:20:04,480 --> 00:20:07,080 A lot of for playing DS games. 428 00:20:07,080 --> 00:20:08,520 OK, that's fair. 429 00:20:08,520 --> 00:20:13,760 Because they don't I think with dementia, it works pretty well. 430 00:20:13,760 --> 00:20:18,040 But there's a lot of games where it kind of ends up fucking you around a little bit. 431 00:20:18,040 --> 00:20:23,640 You know, it's it's expecting D pad input and you're giving it. 432 00:20:23,640 --> 00:20:26,680 Yeah, that's that's fair. 433 00:20:26,680 --> 00:20:30,400 Well, but I hate to crush your dreams on that. 434 00:20:30,400 --> 00:20:34,880 There's a little bit about the stretched fit for the like just for the visual to. 435 00:20:34,880 --> 00:20:35,880 Yes, it kills me. 436 00:20:35,880 --> 00:20:38,400 I don't know if that's just the Excel or not. 437 00:20:38,400 --> 00:20:42,560 I wonder if there's a I wonder if there's some aspect ratio or something that you can 438 00:20:42,560 --> 00:20:43,560 toggle. 439 00:20:43,560 --> 00:20:44,560 There's not fuck. 440 00:20:44,560 --> 00:20:46,560 No, I looked at my books. 441 00:20:46,560 --> 00:20:47,560 Hi, I'm all right. 442 00:20:47,560 --> 00:20:48,560 That's fair. 443 00:20:48,560 --> 00:20:49,560 That's fair. 444 00:20:49,560 --> 00:20:50,560 God damn. 445 00:20:50,560 --> 00:20:51,560 Yeah. 446 00:20:51,560 --> 00:20:52,840 See, that's that's my struggle and I don't want to drop like five hundred dollars on 447 00:20:52,840 --> 00:20:53,840 DS's. 448 00:20:53,840 --> 00:20:54,840 Yeah, I mean, I do. 449 00:20:54,840 --> 00:20:56,840 But like over time. 450 00:20:56,840 --> 00:20:57,840 Yeah. 451 00:20:57,840 --> 00:20:59,640 If even for the collection. 452 00:20:59,640 --> 00:21:05,280 Plus we were talking about getting new fucking recording like equipment and shit. 453 00:21:05,280 --> 00:21:08,120 Oh, we're about to pocket gas be ballin. 454 00:21:08,120 --> 00:21:09,120 It's on page. 455 00:21:09,120 --> 00:21:10,120 We did it in the page. 456 00:21:10,120 --> 00:21:11,120 It was a joke. 457 00:21:11,120 --> 00:21:12,120 No, we really need it. 458 00:21:12,120 --> 00:21:13,120 No, it's for real. 459 00:21:13,120 --> 00:21:16,120 We're in the dire straits. 460 00:21:16,120 --> 00:21:17,120 Great band. 461 00:21:17,120 --> 00:21:19,200 Great soundtrack in this game. 462 00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:23,080 Dude, I fucking did it a bop. 463 00:21:23,080 --> 00:21:24,240 That's all I can say. 464 00:21:24,240 --> 00:21:25,240 Everything was a bop. 465 00:21:25,240 --> 00:21:28,720 There's everything fit the tone so well. 466 00:21:28,720 --> 00:21:34,360 Like the whenever you move from scene to scene, there are this is an adventure game, right? 467 00:21:34,360 --> 00:21:35,360 As well. 468 00:21:35,360 --> 00:21:36,360 This is like an old school adventure game. 469 00:21:36,360 --> 00:21:39,720 You're going from scene to scene and clicking on things and trying to interact. 470 00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:41,720 Yeah, you got to examine some shit. 471 00:21:41,720 --> 00:21:46,840 Everyone just fucking do everything you possibly can with every item. 472 00:21:46,840 --> 00:21:49,680 See what interacts with what. 473 00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:56,040 The music in those games a lot of times because of their age, I think mainly I don't play. 474 00:21:56,040 --> 00:21:59,000 I haven't played newer adventure style games. 475 00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:02,280 I've only played the King's Quest and a couple other old ones. 476 00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:03,280 Sure. 477 00:22:03,280 --> 00:22:04,480 The music cuts weird. 478 00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:08,040 And yeah, I know what you're talking about. 479 00:22:08,040 --> 00:22:13,120 You know, and like it's like the song starts because the song restarts because you've gone 480 00:22:13,120 --> 00:22:14,680 to a new scene. 481 00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:18,080 But sometimes that's a weird transition. 482 00:22:18,080 --> 00:22:21,120 These all transition so well somehow. 483 00:22:21,120 --> 00:22:25,920 And I think it's because every time you're investigating, it's chill. 484 00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:26,920 So it's always. 485 00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:31,040 Yeah, pretty like different tempos for different whatever you're doing and shit. 486 00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:36,400 And they kind of keep the same and they do a great job of controlling your feelings. 487 00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:41,120 You know, in when you're in court investigating and things are fucking like picking up like, 488 00:22:41,120 --> 00:22:43,280 oh shit, everything's starting to add up. 489 00:22:43,280 --> 00:22:46,120 The music is going higher and like, boom, boom, boom, boom. 490 00:22:46,120 --> 00:22:47,120 It turns more. 491 00:22:47,120 --> 00:22:49,960 Oh, yeah, it's like kind of getting amped up and shit. 492 00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:50,960 Yeah, yeah. 493 00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:58,400 It was it was a roller coaster like back and forth between stuff and the because I like 494 00:22:58,400 --> 00:23:01,920 under the hood, there's not a lot technically happening in this game. 495 00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:08,760 I mean, it's like I said, I feel like each character has a handful of poses and faces 496 00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:10,120 that they've drawn for them. 497 00:23:10,120 --> 00:23:11,120 Yeah. 498 00:23:11,120 --> 00:23:12,120 Super simple. 499 00:23:12,120 --> 00:23:17,160 And yeah, yeah, mechanically, there's just not a lot happening, but you do. 500 00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:28,600 You get so much out of what's available and like the writing is maybe a little hokey at 501 00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:31,360 times, but it's good. 502 00:23:31,360 --> 00:23:32,880 And I think it's done intentionally. 503 00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:33,880 I don't think it's ever. 504 00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:35,360 It's not lazy necessarily. 505 00:23:35,360 --> 00:23:40,620 No, but it keeps you hooked and it's just ridiculous enough that you're like, that's 506 00:23:40,620 --> 00:23:45,360 not how I saw that going because there are definitely some things where I'm trying to 507 00:23:45,360 --> 00:23:47,320 kind of peer down the line. 508 00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:51,960 You know, I'm like, oh, well, like this evidence hasn't been relevant all the way up until 509 00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:52,960 this point. 510 00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:55,000 Like, I'm pretty sure this is where it's going. 511 00:23:55,000 --> 00:24:00,200 And this is going to like, boom, I got this fucking evidence, you know, or whatever. 512 00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:04,080 And then you get there and it's not still not relevant. 513 00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:05,080 It's something totally else. 514 00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:07,220 And it's just like, what the fuck? 515 00:24:07,220 --> 00:24:09,200 Just throwing you curveballs left and right. 516 00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:10,960 And it's charming all the while. 517 00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:11,960 Yeah. 518 00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:18,160 I love the way that it leaves you in the. 519 00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:22,880 Trying to guess what's going to happen and always leading you astray on what information 520 00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:23,880 it gives you. 521 00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:24,880 Yeah. 522 00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:28,840 And as you said, the curves that it sends you on are just fucking wild. 523 00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:31,960 The very anime in that flavor. 524 00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:33,820 Oh yeah. 525 00:24:33,820 --> 00:24:34,820 It's just off the wall shit. 526 00:24:34,820 --> 00:24:36,320 You can never really. 527 00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:37,320 Yeah. 528 00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:41,160 You just started the chapter. 529 00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:48,320 There's an old security lady and oh my fucking God is she is hilarious. 530 00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:54,080 It is such a change in their writing when they bring her in. 531 00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:55,080 Interesting. 532 00:24:55,080 --> 00:25:07,000 I know you got to keep playing it just to experience that. 533 00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:08,000 Good call. 534 00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:09,000 Yeah. 535 00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:10,000 That would have fucked shit up. 536 00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:11,000 Yeah. 537 00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:15,240 Is that a collection of GameCube games you have sitting in there Ed? 538 00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:17,240 This purple thing right here? 539 00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:18,240 This purple, yeah dude. 540 00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:19,440 Try and look at this. 541 00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:20,440 This is, yeah. 542 00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:31,800 So remember Mike sent over the Meran Heirloom GameCube collection, but forgot to send the 543 00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:36,000 Wii and the fucking controllers to play them. 544 00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:37,000 Oh yeah. 545 00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:38,000 That's the joke. 546 00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:39,000 I think they're from the game. 547 00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:40,000 Yeah. 548 00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:44,880 I think that was the joke because I think you let me borrow a bunch and then they got 549 00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:48,200 mixed up with my shit and then I mailed them out to him a couple years back. 550 00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:49,920 I'm so happy about that. 551 00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:50,920 Hold on. 552 00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:51,920 You can hold on. 553 00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:52,920 Pull yours out for sure. 554 00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:54,460 Because I think there's another. 555 00:25:54,460 --> 00:25:59,360 Yeah, there's another one. 556 00:25:59,360 --> 00:26:00,360 Another one? 557 00:26:00,360 --> 00:26:01,360 Oh yeah. 558 00:26:01,360 --> 00:26:02,360 This one's to the max dude. 559 00:26:02,360 --> 00:26:03,360 It's busting at the scene. 560 00:26:03,360 --> 00:26:05,000 You're melting my heart right now. 561 00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:07,600 Yeah, so this one actually has some Wii titles in it. 562 00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:09,560 Okay, well none of the Wii ones are mine. 563 00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:11,640 It's mostly GameCube games in here. 564 00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:16,600 Let's see, we got, ooh, if this one's for the Wii, Dragon Ball Z, Budokai Tenkaichi 2. 565 00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:26,360 We got 00 Nightfire, Splinter Cell, Chaos Theory, two-part disc, or two disc game rather. 566 00:26:26,360 --> 00:26:29,560 Mario Party 4 classic, Wii Sports, nice. 567 00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:32,120 Super Mario Sunshine. 568 00:26:32,120 --> 00:26:33,120 On the which what? 569 00:26:33,120 --> 00:26:35,560 Let me see it. 570 00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:36,880 I want to go through them too. 571 00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:40,520 Oh Geist, that one's definitely you. 572 00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:42,800 I think I have two copies of Super Mario Sunshine. 573 00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:45,840 I don't remember that being a two disc game, so I'm pretty sure one of those must be yours. 574 00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:46,840 No, I've never owned that game. 575 00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:49,520 Okay, well then I have two of them. 576 00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:51,000 Burnout, I think that's you. 577 00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:52,000 No. 578 00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:53,000 No? 579 00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:54,000 Shit, go me. 580 00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:56,800 Super Monkey Ball 2, that's mine. 581 00:26:56,800 --> 00:26:57,800 Oh yeah. 582 00:26:57,800 --> 00:26:58,800 Soul Cal 2, nice. 583 00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:01,040 Oh, Lord of the Rings third age dude. 584 00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:02,040 Oh, is that? 585 00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:03,040 Good game. 586 00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:04,040 Is that the RTS one? 587 00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:05,040 Yeah. 588 00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:06,040 Turn based. 589 00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:07,040 Turn based one? 590 00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:10,000 Yeah dude, that one is so fucking good bro. 591 00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:13,200 I've heard about that, I've never actually played it. 592 00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:15,200 Tales of Symphonia, was that you? 593 00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:16,200 Yes. 594 00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:17,200 Yeah, I thought so. 595 00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:18,200 I'm so happy to hear that. 596 00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:20,400 Lord of the Rings 2 towers, that was a fun one. 597 00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:21,400 Tony Hawk's Underground. 598 00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:24,880 Tony Hawk's Underground and Underground 2, that's you. 599 00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:25,880 Piano 3. 600 00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:26,880 Oh sweet. 601 00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:27,880 Yeah buddy. 602 00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:29,480 Man, I've been searching for these games. 603 00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:30,480 I'm so sorry. 604 00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:31,480 No, I'm just happy. 605 00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:38,560 Oh, Prime and Prime 2, Echoes, Twilight Princess, Xbox One, Fallout 4, what the fuck? 606 00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:40,560 That's you dude, that was like. 607 00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:41,560 That's OG. 608 00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:43,560 Oh, another Twilight Princess, did you have one? 609 00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:44,560 Yeah, I have one too. 610 00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:45,560 Sweet. 611 00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:46,560 Okay, fuck yeah. 612 00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:47,560 Medal of Honor, Rising Sun. 613 00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:49,000 You have two of those. 614 00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:51,800 Two Four Swords, so one of those must be yours. 615 00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:52,800 No. 616 00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:53,800 No, what the fuck? 617 00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:55,800 Same for the Medal of Honor, this one's not mine either. 618 00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:56,800 Jesus. 619 00:27:56,800 --> 00:27:59,600 Who's, did we, or whose games were you guys? 620 00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:05,240 Dude, I probably just do have duplicates because like. 621 00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:08,600 I want that game again and one of the brothers have it, yeah. 622 00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:13,440 Oh, this one, so Ocarina of Time, is that, I think that might be the Master Quest version. 623 00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:15,440 You have two of those too. 624 00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:16,440 Yeah. 625 00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:18,720 Did you have two, or another one over there? 626 00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:23,080 So I think this one's mine. 627 00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:24,880 Is that Master, is that the Master Quest? 628 00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:25,880 This is. 629 00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:26,880 Cause I definitely have a Master Quest. 630 00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:27,880 You've got two Master Quests. 631 00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:29,520 Oh, well then one of those is yours, yeah. 632 00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:33,000 But no, mine was the collection one where it's. 633 00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:39,680 Oh yeah, it's Legend of Zelda 1, Legend of Zelda 2. 634 00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:42,400 Ocarina of Time and Majora's Mask. 635 00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:45,040 Was that one your, I thought I had one of those too. 636 00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:49,840 So no worries, we can always forever share. 637 00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:52,360 I'm mainly still, some of the other ones. 638 00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:53,720 This is a beautiful collection. 639 00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:54,720 It is. 640 00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:55,720 Honest to God. 641 00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:56,720 It's my childhood. 642 00:28:56,720 --> 00:29:00,640 Cause I had found recently my GameCube and I couldn't, I had no games. 643 00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:05,040 I've been searching my parents house for my fucking games. 644 00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:06,040 Games. 645 00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:08,040 Dude, hell yeah dude. 646 00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:09,040 That's awesome. 647 00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:13,080 Aw man, and Alyssa got that SNES Mini. 648 00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:14,280 Does that take games or no? 649 00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:15,280 It does not. 650 00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:16,280 Why not? 651 00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:18,160 Um, I think that's the whole thing. 652 00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:19,640 It's just a bunch of digitized. 653 00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:21,080 I know, but why not? 654 00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:22,080 I mean if. 655 00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:27,640 No, I mean it's basically like a Nintendo made raspberry pie with a sick case on it 656 00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:31,120 and the OG controllers that everything's still maybe USB port. 657 00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:32,120 Maybe they're proprietary. 658 00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:33,120 I didn't look at them. 659 00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:34,120 I think they're USB. 660 00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:35,120 I think so. 661 00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:36,120 Yeah. 662 00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:38,360 Um, it's definitely got the feel to it though. 663 00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:43,400 But everything looks crisp and clean and it's just, we just, um, I don't know all what's 664 00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:50,000 on it cause I mean we were just smashing out some Super Mario World and I'm dog shit at 665 00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:51,400 the OG Mario games. 666 00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:52,400 Oh really? 667 00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:53,400 Yeah. 668 00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:54,400 Well cause I never played them. 669 00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:55,400 I was gonna say have you ever played them? 670 00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:56,400 I have so much memorization about it. 671 00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:57,480 You ever played a? 672 00:29:57,480 --> 00:30:03,900 I have played, yes, but I couldn't tell you which specific games or which specific levels. 673 00:30:03,900 --> 00:30:06,000 If I played them I would recognize them. 674 00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:07,000 That's about it. 675 00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:08,000 Yeah. 676 00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:10,480 Um, and it's just a spattering. 677 00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:11,480 Like yeah. 678 00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:16,480 Cause I know that was like my, as a kid that was my really big, like I remember feeling 679 00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:18,680 like just like a lot of self pride. 680 00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:19,680 And. 681 00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:21,120 Just ripping through those games? 682 00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:22,280 Not ripping through it. 683 00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:23,760 There's no ripping through. 684 00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:24,760 Yeah that's fair. 685 00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:27,800 Maybe some of the first episode, or first episode, some of the first levels. 686 00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:28,800 Sure. 687 00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:29,800 Maybe. 688 00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:32,720 But no, those games get fucking hard. 689 00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:37,720 The I still remember the last castle to get to Bowser. 690 00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:43,680 Cause every time you go into a different world, cause there's eight worlds I think. 691 00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:44,680 Okay. 692 00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:46,320 And there's eight sections to each world. 693 00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:47,320 Okay. 694 00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:49,720 And the each section is Bowser's castle. 695 00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:50,720 Okay. 696 00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:52,920 And there's eight, eight, I think I specifically remember. 697 00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:53,920 Oh shit. 698 00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:54,920 Yeah. 699 00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:58,040 So eight, eight's the last level. 700 00:30:58,040 --> 00:31:02,480 And that's a lot of levels for like, that's pretty good. 701 00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:03,480 Yeah. 702 00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:04,480 That's pretty good. 703 00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:11,480 So with the, uh, at the very end though, when you're in Bowser's castle, you have to do 704 00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:14,600 a pattern that you just have to figure out. 705 00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:15,600 And every time the pattern. 706 00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:16,600 Oh with the flame attacks? 707 00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:17,600 No, no, no, no, no. 708 00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:18,600 I don't know how to explain this. 709 00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:20,040 The level like changes. 710 00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:23,920 So as you ran along the, like you can go up or down. 711 00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:24,920 Okay. 712 00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:29,480 And so you have to go down, down, up, and then you'll hear like a chime noise. 713 00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:31,240 So you got that first one right. 714 00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:35,880 So now you got to go through dodging all the shit and choose the correct path this time. 715 00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:37,840 So it's going to be like up, down, up. 716 00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:40,680 Oh, and you have to do that so many times. 717 00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:42,240 And then you get through to him. 718 00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:46,640 Oh, that's, and as a kid, you're just like, I had no walkthrough or anything. 719 00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:47,920 I'm on like a family road trip. 720 00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:55,480 I'm on a fucking, I remember specifically, I was on a family reunion trip around like 721 00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:57,200 a cemetery or some shit. 722 00:31:57,200 --> 00:31:59,400 Oh, that sounds weird. 723 00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:03,040 I mean, it was like joyous kind of, I don't know. 724 00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:07,040 Or like maybe we were just somebody getting buried or no, it was a family reunion. 725 00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:12,720 And like we were in like the family, like town, like where I like it, like everything 726 00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:13,720 started basically. 727 00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:14,720 Damn. 728 00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:17,640 You got, you got a family, like town with a family cemetery. 729 00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:18,640 Not a family. 730 00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:21,600 No, it's just where the family is from. 731 00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:25,400 Oh, a place called cemetery. 732 00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:27,880 It's the town in which the family like originated. 733 00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:28,880 Yeah. 734 00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:30,960 But where does the dead people come in? 735 00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:34,840 It's just like, Hey, some of our oldest relatives are buried here. 736 00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:35,840 Oh, okay. 737 00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:38,000 And so, and we've got, you know, 12 people together. 738 00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:43,000 And so like they had a bus that they had like, we're using and we're driving through and 739 00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:44,000 just checking shit out. 740 00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:45,000 Gotcha. 741 00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:53,600 So I'm in the back of the bus, just like, Oh, my fucking game boy color playing and 742 00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:57,880 trying to hear this fucking noise and tell me if I got the pattern. 743 00:32:57,880 --> 00:33:02,320 You only have so many lives until you have to start that world over. 744 00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:03,320 Right. 745 00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:07,040 And then something I go through from eight one all the way fucking back up to eight and 746 00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:11,720 then try again at the patterns and hope that you remember them. 747 00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:12,720 Yeah. 748 00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:15,080 I remember beating him on that fucking van. 749 00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:16,080 Oh, no shit. 750 00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:17,080 Bus thing. 751 00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:18,080 And like, I bet that was big. 752 00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:19,080 Yeah. 753 00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:20,080 I was so stoked. 754 00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:22,640 I remember getting off that and catching up, like finding the cousins and being like, I 755 00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:23,640 beat it. 756 00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:24,640 I beat it. 757 00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:25,640 And like, no one fucking believe me. 758 00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:28,240 You have like a high score thing on the game boy color one. 759 00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:31,440 So I was like, bitches, I fucking did it. 760 00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:32,800 I did. 761 00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:34,280 That's fucking sick. 762 00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:35,280 Yeah. 763 00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:38,400 I, Alyssa is really good at the game. 764 00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:40,280 I am really bad at the game. 765 00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:46,120 Yeah, if you grew up playing it or like, that was something my buddy, Wes and I used to 766 00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:52,560 do was play Super Mario World or Super Mario three. 767 00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:59,920 When that becomes a daily, you're going through and beating the game every day after school, 768 00:33:59,920 --> 00:34:05,500 which is exactly what is like the, like, I'm sure people did coming out, ripping it so 769 00:34:05,500 --> 00:34:07,640 hard and you get through it and then you keep playing. 770 00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:09,640 You find out where all the. 771 00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:10,640 Yeah, that's fair. 772 00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:12,440 There's just go through. 773 00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:17,520 There's a very famous Super Mario three speed run on YouTube. 774 00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:18,520 Yeah. 775 00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:20,800 I think it's like nine minutes. 776 00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:24,280 It's like almost 10 minutes, but this is from back when you can upload a 10 minute, like 777 00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:25,680 10 minutes was the max. 778 00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:26,680 Oh, sure. 779 00:34:26,680 --> 00:34:29,920 So it's pretty impressive that the dude could do the speed around in. 780 00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:37,200 So we'd watch that a couple of times and we knew where certain warp worlds are like, there's 781 00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:43,160 certain spots in here where you can warp ahead and show you can cut off hours, you know, 782 00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:44,280 doing that. 783 00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:45,280 That's crazy. 784 00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:46,280 Yeah, that's sick. 785 00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:50,480 So my world though is a lot harder. 786 00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:52,240 There's so much more. 787 00:34:52,240 --> 00:34:57,160 It was such a beautiful advancing because Super Mario three was the last title on the 788 00:34:57,160 --> 00:34:58,160 Nintendo. 789 00:34:58,160 --> 00:34:59,160 Okay. 790 00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:02,720 And then you got Super Mario World on the Super Nintendo. 791 00:35:02,720 --> 00:35:07,200 So that's your stuff from eight bit to 16 bit. 792 00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:09,000 And so they added in Yoshi. 793 00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:11,800 Yeah, dude, Yoshi is sick. 794 00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:14,940 And there's just a few, there are a lot more enemies. 795 00:35:14,940 --> 00:35:20,040 Like they really fucking ups and change the enemies a lot in Super Mario World. 796 00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:21,320 Yeah, it's a harder game. 797 00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:22,320 I'm with you. 798 00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:25,160 Like I were playing that with Weston because I didn't grow up playing those games. 799 00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:29,440 We had a PlayStation and yeah, it was the same shit where I'm like player two, just 800 00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:32,440 kind of like getting drunk. 801 00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:33,440 I'll try to be at the level. 802 00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:37,120 I'm dying and carrying me and I appreciate you for it. 803 00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:38,120 Yeah. 804 00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:43,480 Yeah, that was definitely, I did be one and I was pretty, I was pretty pumped. 805 00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:46,080 It was like a, the boo mansion. 806 00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:47,080 Oh yeah. 807 00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:48,080 Yeah. 808 00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:49,080 I like those. 809 00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:50,080 Well, okay. 810 00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:53,280 And to be fair, cause there's a section where you hit it, you go to a door and it just sets 811 00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:55,360 you back in the same screen. 812 00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:59,280 And it's basically whether or not you hit a punch block, I think. 813 00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:01,320 Am I saying that right? 814 00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:04,680 It's a little bubble that has the P on it. 815 00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:05,680 Yeah. 816 00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:06,680 Yeah. 817 00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:07,680 I think that's the case anyway. 818 00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:10,840 And you just kind of to kind of keep running through the same door, but you have, there's 819 00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:12,800 a pattern or a sequence or something. 820 00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:19,360 And then you can get a either progress maybe, or a vine will spawn. 821 00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:20,360 Yeah. 822 00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:21,360 Yeah. 823 00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:22,360 The vine, I think it is. 824 00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:23,360 Yeah. 825 00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:24,360 The vine does. 826 00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:25,360 Yeah. 827 00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:27,640 So she told me how to do it. 828 00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:28,640 But I still did it. 829 00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:30,600 I would not have figured that out. 830 00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:31,600 No. 831 00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:33,120 And it's like everyone, that's how you learn. 832 00:36:33,120 --> 00:36:36,120 And that's the funnest thing about that game. 833 00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:41,120 I will say I'm watching her play and like, mind you, like I know Mario. 834 00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:44,320 Like, you know, 3D Mario. 835 00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:45,320 I know 3D Mario. 836 00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:49,560 And, but I also like I've watched other people play like old school Mario games. 837 00:36:49,560 --> 00:36:53,280 I'm like, yeah, like I know it's a pretty straightforward game. 838 00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:57,520 Like, you know, you can jump underneath and hit a block or you hit the yellow ones for 839 00:36:57,520 --> 00:37:00,040 coins and you know, you can jump on people. 840 00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:03,480 I knew you could pick up shells and carry them and chuck them and bounce off of them 841 00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:04,480 and shit like that. 842 00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:10,640 I didn't realize there was a double sprint mechanic. 843 00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:13,360 That is in not necessarily in the. 844 00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:15,200 Is that not in the OGs? 845 00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:16,560 What do you mean double sprint? 846 00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:24,440 So on the like on the old Nintendo controllers, so Y and X, both of them will have you run. 847 00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:27,920 But then if you hold both of them at the same time, you'll sprint. 848 00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:33,720 And so when you're like the little Fox Mario, the one that can fly, you have to. 849 00:37:33,720 --> 00:37:34,720 Yeah. 850 00:37:34,720 --> 00:37:38,840 Once you hit, no, if you're just wearing, if you have like the feather upgrade, then 851 00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:43,200 you do the double sprint and jump and you'll like launch diagonally in whatever direction 852 00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:44,200 you're running. 853 00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:45,200 Okay. 854 00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:47,440 But like, I didn't realize there was a double sprint. 855 00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:51,640 It's the difference of like moving more quickly and like with your like Naruto running. 856 00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:52,640 Yeah. 857 00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:55,720 But you can also just get that speed from just holding your run button long enough. 858 00:37:55,720 --> 00:37:56,720 Oh, what? 859 00:37:56,720 --> 00:37:57,720 Yeah. 860 00:37:57,720 --> 00:37:58,720 I didn't know that. 861 00:37:58,720 --> 00:37:59,720 Yeah. 862 00:37:59,720 --> 00:38:00,720 Yeah. 863 00:38:00,720 --> 00:38:05,160 No, I'm just blind figuring these out, trying to like just monkey see monkey do. 864 00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:07,320 I'm like, well, I just saw her do some crazy shit. 865 00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:10,120 I had no idea you could fucking do. 866 00:38:10,120 --> 00:38:15,920 And like the mechanics in the level design is, is actually really like significant. 867 00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:20,280 And I didn't realize that like if you were to map out all of the different entry and 868 00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:25,160 exit points between the levels as and how they relate to the other level, like it's 869 00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:26,160 complex. 870 00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:27,160 It is. 871 00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:30,840 And it's cool because like, yeah, the exits, the side exits you can take. 872 00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:33,760 And then when you see it on the world map of all of a sudden, boom, boom, boom, this 873 00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:36,520 trail all of a sudden appears. 874 00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:39,680 And that's where we exit out into the side over there. 875 00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:42,000 It took me so long to appreciate that. 876 00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:43,000 Yeah. 877 00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:44,000 Yeah. 878 00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:45,440 It was, I'm impressed. 879 00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:46,440 It's pretty elegant too. 880 00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:51,480 In fact, like it's just super seamless, but I'm like the replay ability is here. 881 00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:54,720 The difficulty is consistent. 882 00:38:54,720 --> 00:39:00,160 So like you can, you can do better and be better and, and get farther or discover more 883 00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:01,160 secrets. 884 00:39:01,160 --> 00:39:03,360 Um, but it is a challenge at the same time. 885 00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:04,360 Yeah. 886 00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:09,800 It's that perfect mix of challenging, rewarding and fairness. 887 00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:10,800 Yeah. 888 00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:13,760 Because if it was unfair, you would not come back to it. 889 00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:14,760 Right. 890 00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:16,320 It wouldn't be the name that it is. 891 00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:17,320 Yeah. 892 00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:19,480 You can almost always pinpoint exactly where you fucked up. 893 00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:23,200 You're like, I hit the wrong button or I went left, should have gone right. 894 00:39:23,200 --> 00:39:25,840 I knew I was supposed to crouch there or whatever. 895 00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:34,120 It's funny because if you look at Mario now, you don't think of like, Mario is the face 896 00:39:34,120 --> 00:39:36,280 of Nintendo, right? 897 00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:41,840 But Mario, Nintendo existed before, before they say that, right? 898 00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:43,360 Nintendo existed before Mario. 899 00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:44,360 Right. 900 00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:50,760 And Mario also could arguably have said, you know, you can say that he really helped save 901 00:39:50,760 --> 00:40:00,200 and bring back the home video game system because there's, the whole thing about the 902 00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:02,680 huge crash and how video games almost went away. 903 00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:04,440 Isn't, that was a little overhyped. 904 00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:06,760 It's not totally true to that extreme. 905 00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:08,360 Yeah, but it was bad. 906 00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:09,640 It wasn't that bad. 907 00:40:09,640 --> 00:40:10,640 Right. 908 00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:16,000 I think that Mario though, that game, it's all from that game. 909 00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:21,920 The first Super Mario bro 2D side-scrolling game that then goes on in four iterations 910 00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:24,360 to become Super Mario world. 911 00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:26,840 There's a reason it's so fucking good, man. 912 00:40:26,840 --> 00:40:31,520 It's because it's like the people love this game for a fucking reason. 913 00:40:31,520 --> 00:40:33,960 It's how precise, how great the jumps were. 914 00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:38,400 Because if you go back and play some games around that time as well that are platformers, 915 00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:39,400 some of them are too floaty. 916 00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:41,000 Give and watch makes me want to kill myself. 917 00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:42,000 Yeah. 918 00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:44,760 That's a good bit before I think, but. 919 00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:49,680 Yeah, but yeah, I know what you're saying. 920 00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:55,520 It is a clean, it cemented a lot of the standards in platforming games and games in general 921 00:40:55,520 --> 00:40:58,520 that are just, these are just understood. 922 00:40:58,520 --> 00:41:00,880 You want to make a game, this is what you do. 923 00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:01,880 Hold the button to run. 924 00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:02,880 Right. 925 00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:03,880 Absolutely. 926 00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:04,880 All kinds of shit. 927 00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:11,760 I can never remember what it's called, but it's the principle of when developing a game 928 00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:17,000 and you need to jump from ledge to a ledge, you have that forgiveness zone where your 929 00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:20,840 character is actually able to, you put the point at which you would fall off the platform 930 00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:26,000 farther out than the actual edge of the platform just to make, because you can't see your feet 931 00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:31,360 and you want to not have people falling all the time or whatever the fuck it was. 932 00:41:31,360 --> 00:41:34,440 But I'm pretty sure that came out in the Mario era. 933 00:41:34,440 --> 00:41:35,440 I'm sure. 934 00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:36,440 I would not be surprised. 935 00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:39,400 I think it's named after the dude I think that implemented it first. 936 00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:41,440 For all I know, maybe it was a Mario game. 937 00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:43,040 Maybe his name is Mario. 938 00:41:43,040 --> 00:41:44,040 Shit. 939 00:41:44,040 --> 00:41:45,040 It probably is. 940 00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:50,960 Mario is a big enough company name and has enough people working for Mario. 941 00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:54,320 There's definitely been some Marios that worked for Mario. 942 00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:55,320 I had to have been, right? 943 00:41:55,320 --> 00:41:56,320 Or worked on Mario. 944 00:41:56,320 --> 00:41:57,320 Yeah. 945 00:41:57,320 --> 00:41:58,320 I'm Mario and I work on Mario. 946 00:41:58,320 --> 00:41:59,320 Fuck yeah. 947 00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:00,320 I worked on Mario's, Mario's Sunshine. 948 00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:01,320 Mario's Mario. 949 00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:05,840 Dude, Sunshine was a fucking pleasure. 950 00:42:05,840 --> 00:42:07,440 I've never played it. 951 00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:08,440 What? 952 00:42:08,440 --> 00:42:09,440 Yeah. 953 00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:10,440 Well, you've got these fucking. 954 00:42:10,440 --> 00:42:13,360 Yeah, we're going to have to sort some of these out at the end here. 955 00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:15,680 I mean, I don't even have a system to play them on right now. 956 00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:18,200 So if you want to just hang on to them, sit on them for a little bit. 957 00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:19,760 I'll keep them hidden for Ren. 958 00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:20,760 I promise. 959 00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:21,760 Yeah. 960 00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:22,760 Yeah. 961 00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:26,200 That is literally, that is both of our legacies combined. 962 00:42:26,200 --> 00:42:29,600 It'll all be yours someday. 963 00:42:29,600 --> 00:42:37,240 Dude, if these, if those went up in a fire or something, I would legit be really sad. 964 00:42:37,240 --> 00:42:38,240 Yeah. 965 00:42:38,240 --> 00:42:44,600 I mean, I can't tell you how heartbroken I was just recently. 966 00:42:44,600 --> 00:42:45,960 I dug through my parents. 967 00:42:45,960 --> 00:42:51,720 They have this old cold room of just like storage and bullshit. 968 00:42:51,720 --> 00:42:57,160 And so I dug through it because they're out of town and I died. 969 00:42:57,160 --> 00:42:58,160 It's true. 970 00:42:58,160 --> 00:43:03,200 They fucking threw out a bunch of like hard drives, games, things like that. 971 00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:06,360 They were in this box and they just threw the box out. 972 00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:09,520 It took my mom a while to admit to me that that was it. 973 00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:10,960 Cause she was like, I don't see it. 974 00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:12,920 And so I kept like going over and digging around for it. 975 00:43:12,920 --> 00:43:14,720 And finally she was like, yeah, I think we threw it out. 976 00:43:14,720 --> 00:43:21,960 Like she finally, so this week I went through and dug through and I'm just thinking, I guess 977 00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:26,440 that my fucking game, you're in that box. 978 00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:27,800 So I'm very happy to see. 979 00:43:27,800 --> 00:43:32,480 Oh, well I'm sorry that I put you in that position to begin with, but I'm glad that 980 00:43:32,480 --> 00:43:33,480 I could also. 981 00:43:33,480 --> 00:43:34,480 I'm glad it worked out. 982 00:43:34,480 --> 00:43:36,680 I'm glad you brought your joy back in your life. 983 00:43:36,680 --> 00:43:42,960 Because between the time of you acquiring these games from me and now I would have lost 984 00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:48,000 them as I did my entire CD collection. 985 00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:49,000 Oh yeah. 986 00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:51,320 How do you lose that? 987 00:43:51,320 --> 00:43:54,640 I also like to think that maybe, maybe I just threw them out. 988 00:43:54,640 --> 00:44:01,600 Maybe I was like, maybe I went through and I pulled out all the saveable CDs and threw 989 00:44:01,600 --> 00:44:04,760 the rest out because they were all so scratched. 990 00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:05,760 That could be. 991 00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:09,960 That's what I like to think, but that's hundreds of CDs. 992 00:44:09,960 --> 00:44:15,520 I still feel like you would have been like, I can't, I can't because then I could use 993 00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:22,560 the CDs and now look them up on Spotify and have them forever endlessly. 994 00:44:22,560 --> 00:44:23,560 Sad. 995 00:44:23,560 --> 00:44:26,560 That's the sad thing. 996 00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:32,600 That is sad, dude, losing like any collection that is reduced to nothing or, you know, it's 997 00:44:32,600 --> 00:44:33,600 hard man. 998 00:44:33,600 --> 00:44:38,840 You, you start to really take ownership and pride in your collection and then, um, like 999 00:44:38,840 --> 00:44:41,240 I used to have so many fucking books. 1000 00:44:41,240 --> 00:44:44,680 I literally had a study full of books. 1001 00:44:44,680 --> 00:44:47,480 Mine is a terrible memory. 1002 00:44:47,480 --> 00:44:53,380 And when it comes to a hundred CDs or more, you can't blame a guy for not remembering 1003 00:44:53,380 --> 00:44:55,800 every CD that's in there. 1004 00:44:55,800 --> 00:45:02,640 And so then it's just nice to have it to look at and be like, Oh yes, that song or two songs 1005 00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:09,120 on that CD, I want to put them on this playlist or on this mixed tape. 1006 00:45:09,120 --> 00:45:11,360 It's nice to have for that kind of thing. 1007 00:45:11,360 --> 00:45:12,360 Sure. 1008 00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:16,100 I've never held onto a book collection I've had. 1009 00:45:16,100 --> 00:45:21,520 I'm sure I have some books that I've held onto, but I've always just given them out. 1010 00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:22,520 I always hand them away. 1011 00:45:22,520 --> 00:45:25,720 I never gave a fuck about a book collection. 1012 00:45:25,720 --> 00:45:32,320 Speaking of lending out books to your friends. 1013 00:45:32,320 --> 00:45:41,440 So is it as the, or when the hula girl sings, how the hula girl sings, Joe Meno. 1014 00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:44,440 Um, I thought I had lost the book. 1015 00:45:44,440 --> 00:45:45,920 So I ordered a replacement book. 1016 00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:47,920 I found the book. 1017 00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:51,840 Did you get an actual replacement or did you get a second edition? 1018 00:45:51,840 --> 00:45:52,840 Oh fuck. 1019 00:45:52,840 --> 00:45:55,140 Well that I don't know. 1020 00:45:55,140 --> 00:45:56,140 Does it look the same? 1021 00:45:56,140 --> 00:45:57,140 It looks, it's hardcover with the same book sleeve. 1022 00:45:57,140 --> 00:45:58,140 Okay. 1023 00:45:58,140 --> 00:45:59,140 Yeah, it's the same. 1024 00:45:59,140 --> 00:46:00,140 Okay. 1025 00:46:00,140 --> 00:46:01,140 Yeah. 1026 00:46:01,140 --> 00:46:02,140 I was like, Oh, I fuck it in. 1027 00:46:02,140 --> 00:46:03,140 Look, it looked to be the exact same edition. 1028 00:46:03,140 --> 00:46:05,240 Second edition is not as good. 1029 00:46:05,240 --> 00:46:06,240 Oh really? 1030 00:46:06,240 --> 00:46:07,640 They cut some parts out. 1031 00:46:07,640 --> 00:46:08,640 What? 1032 00:46:08,640 --> 00:46:10,640 Definitely censored this book. 1033 00:46:10,640 --> 00:46:11,640 No. 1034 00:46:11,640 --> 00:46:15,920 My cousin and I read it together and he read not, we didn't know this. 1035 00:46:15,920 --> 00:46:16,920 Sure. 1036 00:46:16,920 --> 00:46:22,640 So he's reading that version and I read the one that you are reading. 1037 00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:25,640 And after a while we decided we finished the book. 1038 00:46:25,640 --> 00:46:27,000 All right, let's talk about it. 1039 00:46:27,000 --> 00:46:28,000 Sure. 1040 00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:30,800 And he's like, what the fuck are you talking about? 1041 00:46:30,800 --> 00:46:33,080 That did not happen in this book. 1042 00:46:33,080 --> 00:46:34,080 Damn. 1043 00:46:34,080 --> 00:46:35,080 Okay. 1044 00:46:35,080 --> 00:46:36,320 Oh, that's interesting. 1045 00:46:36,320 --> 00:46:41,280 I will, I will absolutely double check, but I did find the one you actually let me borrow. 1046 00:46:41,280 --> 00:46:45,320 Um, so I'm reading, I'm reading, I'm going to start over. 1047 00:46:45,320 --> 00:46:46,320 Excuse me. 1048 00:46:46,320 --> 00:46:49,840 I'm going to start over and reread it again. 1049 00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:52,560 Cause I made it, I feel like I made it about halfway through. 1050 00:46:52,560 --> 00:46:53,560 I think it was. 1051 00:46:53,560 --> 00:46:58,400 And I remember for the most part, as I recall everything that had happened. 1052 00:46:58,400 --> 00:47:01,040 Uh, but I still want to experience it. 1053 00:47:01,040 --> 00:47:02,040 Read digest it. 1054 00:47:02,040 --> 00:47:05,200 Normally I probably wouldn't cause I've had it for like, what? 1055 00:47:05,200 --> 00:47:06,200 I don't know, two years. 1056 00:47:06,200 --> 00:47:07,200 Have you? 1057 00:47:07,200 --> 00:47:08,200 Longer? 1058 00:47:08,200 --> 00:47:09,280 I thought it was less than that. 1059 00:47:09,280 --> 00:47:10,280 I'll take that. 1060 00:47:10,280 --> 00:47:11,280 That sounds good to me. 1061 00:47:11,280 --> 00:47:14,120 I thought it was probably around the same time as the podcast. 1062 00:47:14,120 --> 00:47:15,600 Oh shit. 1063 00:47:15,600 --> 00:47:19,400 I mean, might it have been? 1064 00:47:19,400 --> 00:47:21,840 Yeah, man. 1065 00:47:21,840 --> 00:47:23,800 I don't remember. 1066 00:47:23,800 --> 00:47:30,040 You'll have to let me borrow one of those copies so I can read it while you're reading it. 1067 00:47:30,040 --> 00:47:36,200 I'm also, what's funny is I'm also reading, um, his first book because Morgan is reading 1068 00:47:36,200 --> 00:47:37,200 his first book. 1069 00:47:37,200 --> 00:47:38,440 Ooh, what's that called? 1070 00:47:38,440 --> 00:47:39,840 Tender as hell fire. 1071 00:47:39,840 --> 00:47:41,520 Tender as hell fire. 1072 00:47:41,520 --> 00:47:42,880 Fucking great name. 1073 00:47:42,880 --> 00:47:44,800 It is pretty fucking good. 1074 00:47:44,800 --> 00:47:47,080 Hell fire tender as hell fire. 1075 00:47:47,080 --> 00:47:48,080 If you say so. 1076 00:47:48,080 --> 00:47:52,560 Like that is just a, it's a good book. 1077 00:47:52,560 --> 00:47:55,880 I'm like, that's a book I haven't read since I was in high school. 1078 00:47:55,880 --> 00:48:02,640 So it's really funny to reread it and re experience it from a totally different perspective. 1079 00:48:02,640 --> 00:48:10,200 I'd be, I would be interested to see how reading his work, his early like original work compares 1080 00:48:10,200 --> 00:48:15,280 to when the, cause what, uh, how the hula girl sings. 1081 00:48:15,280 --> 00:48:19,760 I, so that was just a mouthful for me. 1082 00:48:19,760 --> 00:48:25,080 It's such a digestible read. 1083 00:48:25,080 --> 00:48:27,520 It is, it's pretty easy to read through. 1084 00:48:27,520 --> 00:48:29,120 It's not, it's not complex. 1085 00:48:29,120 --> 00:48:30,120 It's not difficult. 1086 00:48:30,120 --> 00:48:32,160 You don't get caught up on words. 1087 00:48:32,160 --> 00:48:33,160 For sure. 1088 00:48:33,160 --> 00:48:40,280 But at the same time, the subject matter is eerily completely like dissident to the flavor 1089 00:48:40,280 --> 00:48:42,280 of the words you're actually reading. 1090 00:48:42,280 --> 00:48:44,280 And it's unsettling at times. 1091 00:48:44,280 --> 00:48:47,000 That is a great description of it. 1092 00:48:47,000 --> 00:48:48,000 Yeah. 1093 00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:54,880 Because it's almost like, it's like a five year old recants, recounts, uh, extremely 1094 00:48:54,880 --> 00:48:56,480 traumatic experience that they had. 1095 00:48:56,480 --> 00:48:59,560 And you're like, Oh, fucking shit. 1096 00:48:59,560 --> 00:49:00,560 Okay. 1097 00:49:00,560 --> 00:49:01,560 Wow. 1098 00:49:01,560 --> 00:49:03,680 But it's also kind of like wrapped in a joke. 1099 00:49:03,680 --> 00:49:04,680 Yeah. 1100 00:49:04,680 --> 00:49:11,040 But like a really well told very interesting layers to be extrapolated out. 1101 00:49:11,040 --> 00:49:12,040 Yeah. 1102 00:49:12,040 --> 00:49:13,040 Writing. 1103 00:49:13,040 --> 00:49:14,040 I enjoy it. 1104 00:49:14,040 --> 00:49:17,960 I enjoy it more because hold on, actually I need water. 1105 00:49:17,960 --> 00:49:20,960 I can feel my mouth. 1106 00:49:20,960 --> 00:49:24,800 I can also feel my mouth. 1107 00:49:24,800 --> 00:49:25,800 Yeah. 1108 00:49:25,800 --> 00:49:27,480 It just grows in layers. 1109 00:49:27,480 --> 00:49:35,680 Like the, I think Hula girl is relatively early on in his writing career. 1110 00:49:35,680 --> 00:49:36,680 Okay. 1111 00:49:36,680 --> 00:49:37,680 Okay. 1112 00:49:37,680 --> 00:49:39,800 I want to say it's the second or third book. 1113 00:49:39,800 --> 00:49:41,600 Oh no shit. 1114 00:49:41,600 --> 00:49:42,600 Okay. 1115 00:49:42,600 --> 00:49:50,360 And then later on you have something like the great perhaps that has four or five different 1116 00:49:50,360 --> 00:49:56,800 stories going on at the same time that are all kind of interconnected because it's all 1117 00:49:56,800 --> 00:49:58,800 about a family. 1118 00:49:58,800 --> 00:50:04,040 And that's where you were talking about where it's kind of like a kid talking about something 1119 00:50:04,040 --> 00:50:06,240 really traumatic that happened to him. 1120 00:50:06,240 --> 00:50:07,240 Yeah. 1121 00:50:07,240 --> 00:50:09,240 I said, but kind of wrapped in a joke. 1122 00:50:09,240 --> 00:50:16,960 That's how I think his writing grows because it Tom Waits is actually quoted on this about 1123 00:50:16,960 --> 00:50:23,280 one of his songs where one of his most popular songs is kind of a joke song. 1124 00:50:23,280 --> 00:50:29,160 But if you were to just read the lyrics as a poem, it's an extremely sad story. 1125 00:50:29,160 --> 00:50:36,280 And the only way to tell it though, and make it digestible is to put it in a really comfy 1126 00:50:36,280 --> 00:50:42,960 sounding piano with a goofy vocal behind it to make it laughable story. 1127 00:50:42,960 --> 00:50:46,800 But if you actually, cause he doesn't change the lyrics at all. 1128 00:50:46,800 --> 00:50:47,800 Sure. 1129 00:50:47,800 --> 00:50:52,560 It's just that the way that he delivers it makes it, you can take it as a joke and listen 1130 00:50:52,560 --> 00:50:53,560 to it and laugh. 1131 00:50:53,560 --> 00:50:56,760 But if you sit and actually read the lyrics, you'd be fucking depressed. 1132 00:50:56,760 --> 00:50:57,760 Geez. 1133 00:50:57,760 --> 00:50:59,240 That's a lot of Joe Meadows writing. 1134 00:50:59,240 --> 00:51:00,240 Yeah. 1135 00:51:00,240 --> 00:51:01,680 No, I think that's very accurate. 1136 00:51:01,680 --> 00:51:03,320 It's yeah. 1137 00:51:03,320 --> 00:51:07,720 It's an interesting read cause it's heavy, but it's also light, but that almost weighs 1138 00:51:07,720 --> 00:51:09,520 on you more. 1139 00:51:09,520 --> 00:51:12,160 And it's just bad, uncomfy at times. 1140 00:51:12,160 --> 00:51:13,160 Uncomfy. 1141 00:51:13,160 --> 00:51:14,160 Absolutely. 1142 00:51:14,160 --> 00:51:15,160 Especially. 1143 00:51:15,160 --> 00:51:18,240 Oh, and I like how the book opens page one. 1144 00:51:18,240 --> 00:51:22,160 I'm like, Oh Jesus fucking Christ. 1145 00:51:22,160 --> 00:51:23,160 Okay. 1146 00:51:23,160 --> 00:51:25,160 We're straight into it. 1147 00:51:25,160 --> 00:51:26,160 But like, what a hook. 1148 00:51:26,160 --> 00:51:27,160 Yeah. 1149 00:51:27,160 --> 00:51:31,240 I mean, I can still picture that scene the way that I pictured it when I read it. 1150 00:51:31,240 --> 00:51:32,240 I, yeah, same. 1151 00:51:32,240 --> 00:51:33,680 I don't know, over 10 years ago. 1152 00:51:33,680 --> 00:51:34,680 Yeah. 1153 00:51:34,680 --> 00:51:35,680 It is. 1154 00:51:35,680 --> 00:51:36,680 It's dark, man. 1155 00:51:36,680 --> 00:51:37,680 It's thick. 1156 00:51:37,680 --> 00:51:38,680 Yeah. 1157 00:51:38,680 --> 00:51:39,680 Heavy, bro. 1158 00:51:39,680 --> 00:51:41,960 Shit sits with you for a minute. 1159 00:51:41,960 --> 00:51:43,960 I was reading it like before bed, I remember. 1160 00:51:43,960 --> 00:51:46,920 And I was just like, this is a heavy read before bed. 1161 00:51:46,920 --> 00:51:47,920 God damn. 1162 00:51:47,920 --> 00:51:48,920 Yeah, it is. 1163 00:51:48,920 --> 00:51:49,920 But it's a heavy read in the morning. 1164 00:51:49,920 --> 00:51:52,720 I mean, you read at any point in the fucking day. 1165 00:51:52,720 --> 00:51:57,280 It's going to be ready, fucking put on some Johnny Cash and read that book. 1166 00:51:57,280 --> 00:51:58,320 Oh God. 1167 00:51:58,320 --> 00:52:02,800 Because that's the whole thing and a lot of references in that there are a lot of references 1168 00:52:02,800 --> 00:52:05,400 to Johnny Cash songs in that book. 1169 00:52:05,400 --> 00:52:06,400 Yeah. 1170 00:52:06,400 --> 00:52:08,000 It was at the very beginning. 1171 00:52:08,000 --> 00:52:12,280 I think it says something about it being dedicated to the depression, to Johnny Cash and the 1172 00:52:12,280 --> 00:52:15,000 depression of the Midwest or something like that. 1173 00:52:15,000 --> 00:52:16,000 It is. 1174 00:52:16,000 --> 00:52:21,200 It's such a, it's a thick small town story. 1175 00:52:21,200 --> 00:52:26,000 That's just rife with shit. 1176 00:52:26,000 --> 00:52:29,680 It's a raw story too. 1177 00:52:29,680 --> 00:52:30,680 What's cool. 1178 00:52:30,680 --> 00:52:36,800 I always think that after reading his books and other books too, and his book specifically, 1179 00:52:36,800 --> 00:52:41,840 the way that they just deal with characters, they kind of change the way that you look 1180 00:52:41,840 --> 00:52:44,320 at strangers on the street. 1181 00:52:44,320 --> 00:52:51,480 You're less judgmental almost maybe when you see someone in a rough looking spot. 1182 00:52:51,480 --> 00:52:52,480 Sure. 1183 00:52:52,480 --> 00:52:58,600 I can't think of all the backstory that would go into that right now. 1184 00:52:58,600 --> 00:53:00,200 To get to that right there. 1185 00:53:00,200 --> 00:53:01,200 Yeah. 1186 00:53:01,200 --> 00:53:04,880 That's the hard part about being surrounded by people is you lose sight of that pretty 1187 00:53:04,880 --> 00:53:09,520 easily and it's just like, it's super hard to just conceptualize all of these people 1188 00:53:09,520 --> 00:53:10,520 as individuals. 1189 00:53:10,520 --> 00:53:12,800 That's so much to consider. 1190 00:53:12,800 --> 00:53:17,760 Like Jesus Christ, my life is complex enough, let alone 20,000 other people. 1191 00:53:17,760 --> 00:53:19,240 I have to, I have to. 1192 00:53:19,240 --> 00:53:22,280 If I don't do that, man, I would go fucking nuts at my job. 1193 00:53:22,280 --> 00:53:28,400 I would hate everyone so much if I didn't have to continually. 1194 00:53:28,400 --> 00:53:32,520 I think in general, like for anyone, I think that's how that works. 1195 00:53:32,520 --> 00:53:38,520 If you detach yourself too much, then you're just going to say bye bye to humanity, I guess. 1196 00:53:38,520 --> 00:53:40,720 Yeah, just fucking being a fucking dick. 1197 00:53:40,720 --> 00:53:44,680 Oh man, just hating everything about everything all the time. 1198 00:53:44,680 --> 00:53:46,800 I mean, yeah, that sounds like me. 1199 00:53:46,800 --> 00:53:48,920 I hate everyone for the most part. 1200 00:53:48,920 --> 00:53:49,920 People suck. 1201 00:53:49,920 --> 00:53:57,560 Yeah, I mean, you got to project either a story onto them or try to figure out, remember 1202 00:53:57,560 --> 00:53:59,160 there's a true story behind it. 1203 00:53:59,160 --> 00:54:04,800 I mean, I feel like I do pretty well with giving people the benefit of a doubt. 1204 00:54:04,800 --> 00:54:09,640 It's the people where it's, I don't know their story, but like this person sucks every time 1205 00:54:09,640 --> 00:54:10,640 consistently. 1206 00:54:10,640 --> 00:54:13,560 Like, that wasn't a bad day. 1207 00:54:13,560 --> 00:54:15,120 This person sucks. 1208 00:54:15,120 --> 00:54:23,680 That's that every day I try to practice consciousness and there's a lot of different schools of 1209 00:54:23,680 --> 00:54:26,480 thought that I like to entertain. 1210 00:54:26,480 --> 00:54:29,240 None of them that I necessarily truly believe. 1211 00:54:29,240 --> 00:54:37,720 One of them that fucks with me a lot is the idea that you are everybody and you are, you 1212 00:54:37,720 --> 00:54:45,120 are experiencing all of these parts of you so that you can learn to better yourself as 1213 00:54:45,120 --> 00:54:46,560 a whole. 1214 00:54:46,560 --> 00:54:50,640 It's a much deeper, you know, it's like, I don't know if it's like a God breaks itself 1215 00:54:50,640 --> 00:54:54,680 down so that way it can, then that becomes humanity. 1216 00:54:54,680 --> 00:54:58,040 Sounds like you've been listening to Ween recently. 1217 00:54:58,040 --> 00:55:00,840 I am the Ween. 1218 00:55:00,840 --> 00:55:01,840 Okay hippie. 1219 00:55:01,840 --> 00:55:03,800 Dude, what is that one Ween song? 1220 00:55:03,800 --> 00:55:11,480 It has that like, that cut some, well maybe it's an edit, I don't know if it's like a 1221 00:55:11,480 --> 00:55:18,280 track from something else, but it's this voiceover that plays throughout the intro, which is 1222 00:55:18,280 --> 00:55:19,280 significant. 1223 00:55:19,280 --> 00:55:24,800 There's something about being in trees and shit. 1224 00:55:24,800 --> 00:55:25,800 I don't know if I've made it. 1225 00:55:25,800 --> 00:55:26,800 Maybe shit. 1226 00:55:26,800 --> 00:55:30,080 I don't know if I've made it this far into Ween's discography to hit that. 1227 00:55:30,080 --> 00:55:36,120 I will have to look it up and send it to you because like this song exists for me forever 1228 00:55:36,120 --> 00:55:38,160 and always. 1229 00:55:38,160 --> 00:55:42,440 I very clearly remember the first time I experienced this song and it was powerful. 1230 00:55:42,440 --> 00:55:44,520 I don't think this is some hippie shit. 1231 00:55:44,520 --> 00:55:48,120 I think it's rooted in some like Hindu shit or something like that. 1232 00:55:48,120 --> 00:55:50,800 I think it's some Eastern philosophy type deal. 1233 00:55:50,800 --> 00:55:52,640 It probably has threads all over. 1234 00:55:52,640 --> 00:55:53,640 Right. 1235 00:55:53,640 --> 00:55:55,920 But I just wanted to bust your balls for something like a hippie. 1236 00:55:55,920 --> 00:56:04,280 The thing about this idea, right, that you are experiencing these shitty people so that 1237 00:56:04,280 --> 00:56:10,160 you can see these shitty parts of yourself, it's wrong and it can't be because some of 1238 00:56:10,160 --> 00:56:12,520 these people are just me. 1239 00:56:12,520 --> 00:56:14,520 Yeah, just some cocksuckers out there. 1240 00:56:14,520 --> 00:56:15,520 Just some fucking me. 1241 00:56:15,520 --> 00:56:16,980 It's like, no, I don't know. 1242 00:56:16,980 --> 00:56:17,980 That doesn't quite work. 1243 00:56:17,980 --> 00:56:23,640 It doesn't translate well because of like how fucking, because maybe it's also the job 1244 00:56:23,640 --> 00:56:24,640 that I work in. 1245 00:56:24,640 --> 00:56:25,640 Sure. 1246 00:56:25,640 --> 00:56:27,360 You see some people at their worst. 1247 00:56:27,360 --> 00:56:28,360 Fucking. 1248 00:56:28,360 --> 00:56:29,360 But they're everywhere. 1249 00:56:29,360 --> 00:56:34,720 And sometimes you see people at their worst and then they come in sober and they're still 1250 00:56:34,720 --> 00:56:35,720 their fucking worst. 1251 00:56:35,720 --> 00:56:37,480 They're still their fucking worst, bro. 1252 00:56:37,480 --> 00:56:38,640 There is no better. 1253 00:56:38,640 --> 00:56:40,240 There is no best or better. 1254 00:56:40,240 --> 00:56:43,280 Maybe, maybe one day long ago there was. 1255 00:56:43,280 --> 00:56:44,280 Sure. 1256 00:56:44,280 --> 00:56:46,040 Before love smited them. 1257 00:56:46,040 --> 00:56:47,040 Grow up. 1258 00:56:47,040 --> 00:56:48,040 Yeah, dude. 1259 00:56:48,040 --> 00:56:52,240 The number of people out there that can't get past themselves. 1260 00:56:52,240 --> 00:56:54,000 Infuriating. 1261 00:56:54,000 --> 00:56:56,760 Just absolutely aggravating. 1262 00:56:56,760 --> 00:57:00,000 Like can the rest of us also just be adults? 1263 00:57:00,000 --> 00:57:04,360 Like I feel like I spent a significant amount of time in my life, especially recently, like 1264 00:57:04,360 --> 00:57:10,280 in the last decade, trying to become an adult, like a reasonable, decent, like well rounded 1265 00:57:10,280 --> 00:57:11,360 functional human. 1266 00:57:11,360 --> 00:57:12,880 And then you run into a 40 year old. 1267 00:57:12,880 --> 00:57:13,880 And then you. 1268 00:57:13,880 --> 00:57:17,320 Yeah, you guys got the stop. 1269 00:57:17,320 --> 00:57:18,320 What the fuck? 1270 00:57:18,320 --> 00:57:21,400 Gen X. Like you guys didn't even have it that fucking bad. 1271 00:57:21,400 --> 00:57:22,400 Calm down. 1272 00:57:22,400 --> 00:57:23,920 Dude, that shit drives me nuts. 1273 00:57:23,920 --> 00:57:26,320 That shit drives me so very nuts. 1274 00:57:26,320 --> 00:57:32,280 I'm like, oh, we just have half the population, it feels like, or more at times that just 1275 00:57:32,280 --> 00:57:34,160 gave up at 20. 1276 00:57:34,160 --> 00:57:36,080 And then just like, I don't need to mature beyond this point. 1277 00:57:36,080 --> 00:57:39,160 I don't want to take me as this is who I am. 1278 00:57:39,160 --> 00:57:41,200 I fucking hate that. 1279 00:57:41,200 --> 00:57:42,200 That is the worst. 1280 00:57:42,200 --> 00:57:43,560 How the fuck are those people succeeding in life? 1281 00:57:43,560 --> 00:57:45,920 That shit annoys the crap out of me. 1282 00:57:45,920 --> 00:57:46,920 Because none of it matters. 1283 00:57:46,920 --> 00:57:47,920 Yeah, I know. 1284 00:57:47,920 --> 00:57:48,920 Everything's arbitrary. 1285 00:57:48,920 --> 00:57:52,800 It's all a system of lies. 1286 00:57:52,800 --> 00:57:54,280 Wait or die, motherfucker. 1287 00:57:54,280 --> 00:57:56,520 Make a podcast or make a podcast. 1288 00:57:56,520 --> 00:57:57,520 Yes. 1289 00:57:57,520 --> 00:58:01,320 Welcome to our heavily politically charged retro video game. 1290 00:58:01,320 --> 00:58:02,320 Yes. 1291 00:58:02,320 --> 00:58:03,320 OK. 1292 00:58:03,320 --> 00:58:04,320 Feel our rage. 1293 00:58:04,320 --> 00:58:05,320 Our what generation are we? 1294 00:58:05,320 --> 00:58:06,320 No, we're the millennials. 1295 00:58:06,320 --> 00:58:07,320 Are we millennials? 1296 00:58:07,320 --> 00:58:08,320 Feel our millennial rage. 1297 00:58:08,320 --> 00:58:09,320 Yeah, I still worry about I got so pissed the other day. 1298 00:58:09,320 --> 00:58:10,320 I heard some guys talking shit about like younger people, you know, these like high schoolers 1299 00:58:10,320 --> 00:58:11,320 probably in like music listening to and all this shit. 1300 00:58:11,320 --> 00:58:12,320 And I was like, oh, I'm not going to do that. 1301 00:58:12,320 --> 00:58:13,320 I'm going to do it. 1302 00:58:13,320 --> 00:58:14,320 I'm going to do it. 1303 00:58:14,320 --> 00:58:15,320 I'm going to do it. 1304 00:58:15,320 --> 00:58:16,320 I'm going to do it. 1305 00:58:16,320 --> 00:58:17,320 I'm going to do it. 1306 00:58:17,320 --> 00:58:18,320 I'm going to do it. 1307 00:58:18,320 --> 00:58:19,320 I'm going to do it. 1308 00:58:19,320 --> 00:58:20,320 I'm going to do it. 1309 00:58:20,320 --> 00:58:27,440 And then he saw the DJ at reggae, I know cause I remember him at reggae in my 1310 00:58:27,440 --> 00:58:28,440 school life. 1311 00:58:28,440 --> 00:58:32,600 And I remember I wanted to go to the vibe festival, because I kept bad breath 1312 00:58:32,600 --> 00:58:35,480 red and I, I couldn't stand un absorbed. 1313 00:58:35,480 --> 00:58:48,540 And they gave me these milk focused 1314 00:58:48,540 --> 00:58:53,540 But just like we just have an army of idiots running around. 1315 00:58:53,860 --> 00:58:54,940 Always have, always will. 1316 00:58:54,940 --> 00:58:56,260 Always have, always will. 1317 00:58:56,260 --> 00:59:00,180 I just feel like, I feel like the decline I've seen 1318 00:59:00,180 --> 00:59:03,120 particularly, I don't wanna open the whole can of worms 1319 00:59:03,120 --> 00:59:04,620 right now, but I'm very specifically talking 1320 00:59:04,620 --> 00:59:05,900 about our education system. 1321 00:59:05,900 --> 00:59:07,100 Not that it's terrible everywhere. 1322 00:59:07,100 --> 00:59:08,380 I remember where I was going with it. 1323 00:59:08,380 --> 00:59:09,220 Oh, let's hear it. 1324 00:59:09,220 --> 00:59:11,940 I thought they were talking about me and my generation. 1325 00:59:13,060 --> 00:59:14,780 Oh, so you took offense. 1326 00:59:14,780 --> 00:59:15,860 That's fair, I would have too. 1327 00:59:15,860 --> 00:59:18,860 I would be like, then I also would look back 1328 00:59:18,860 --> 00:59:21,620 at my high school class and I'd be like, 1329 00:59:21,620 --> 00:59:24,640 no, all of the people that were voted to succeed. 1330 00:59:25,660 --> 00:59:27,900 Well, I would say half of them actually did. 1331 00:59:27,900 --> 00:59:30,300 You went to a charter school. 1332 00:59:30,300 --> 00:59:32,260 Yeah, again, it's just a public school. 1333 00:59:32,260 --> 00:59:35,700 It's just a specific type of public school. 1334 00:59:35,700 --> 00:59:36,900 It's not the same. 1335 00:59:36,900 --> 00:59:38,540 It had its own curriculum, 1336 00:59:38,540 --> 00:59:41,020 but otherwise it was a public school, brother. 1337 00:59:41,020 --> 00:59:42,420 But it's not the same. 1338 00:59:42,420 --> 00:59:44,700 We just had Latin and Spanish. 1339 00:59:44,700 --> 00:59:47,140 Yeah, it's not the same comparison, dude. 1340 00:59:47,140 --> 00:59:48,460 We just had Latin. 1341 00:59:49,540 --> 00:59:51,660 Fucking, you're gentrified. 1342 00:59:51,660 --> 00:59:53,500 Yup, yeah, let's get the fuck out of here. 1343 00:59:53,500 --> 00:59:55,140 I'm not gentrified. 1344 00:59:55,140 --> 00:59:58,580 You took a Latin class in Colorado. 1345 00:59:58,580 --> 00:59:59,500 That is like the definition. 1346 00:59:59,500 --> 01:00:00,660 I've been homeless. 1347 01:00:00,660 --> 01:00:02,820 Okay, I'm not gentrified. 1348 01:00:02,820 --> 01:00:04,520 I just play the game now. 1349 01:00:06,140 --> 01:00:07,900 Sometimes, when I have to. 1350 01:00:07,900 --> 01:00:09,900 To make money, I play the game. 1351 01:00:09,900 --> 01:00:12,140 The rest of the time, I'm still a degenerate. 1352 01:00:12,140 --> 01:00:14,300 All right, fight the system. 1353 01:00:14,300 --> 01:00:15,900 But I'm still gonna pay my taxes. 1354 01:00:15,900 --> 01:00:17,740 Yeah. 1355 01:00:17,740 --> 01:00:20,860 Because nobody fuck with the IRS and get away with it. 1356 01:00:20,860 --> 01:00:23,660 I had thought of 18 segues to go back to the game 1357 01:00:23,660 --> 01:00:27,260 throughout roughly the latter half 1358 01:00:27,260 --> 01:00:28,780 of what we've just recorded. 1359 01:00:32,500 --> 01:00:34,780 And I wanted to, but I was also having a lot of fun 1360 01:00:34,780 --> 01:00:36,780 talking about whatever the fuck we were just talking about. 1361 01:00:36,780 --> 01:00:38,940 It was great. It was a blast. 1362 01:00:38,940 --> 01:00:41,460 You could have just said objection at any point. 1363 01:00:41,460 --> 01:00:42,740 Oh, that would have been really good. 1364 01:00:42,740 --> 01:00:43,980 I've kept up with the theme. 1365 01:00:43,980 --> 01:00:45,220 That would have been man. 1366 01:00:45,220 --> 01:00:47,140 A more intelligent man, perhaps. 1367 01:00:47,140 --> 01:00:47,980 Not us. 1368 01:00:47,980 --> 01:00:48,820 Yeah. 1369 01:00:48,820 --> 01:00:50,660 Well, that's a different thing. 1370 01:00:50,660 --> 01:00:54,540 One thing I wanna cover before we move past it. 1371 01:00:54,540 --> 01:00:55,540 Love it. 1372 01:00:55,540 --> 01:00:56,620 I have a name here. 1373 01:00:56,620 --> 01:00:59,860 I have a list here of the names of the characters. 1374 01:00:59,860 --> 01:01:01,220 Oh, nice. Okay. 1375 01:01:01,220 --> 01:01:02,660 First one I wanna go back to, 1376 01:01:02,660 --> 01:01:05,460 but just like this is the first episode, 1377 01:01:05,460 --> 01:01:08,500 this is the first part that gets your tutorial trial. 1378 01:01:08,500 --> 01:01:09,340 Sure. 1379 01:01:09,340 --> 01:01:10,180 With your best friend. Larry Butz. 1380 01:01:10,180 --> 01:01:11,140 Larry Butz. 1381 01:01:11,140 --> 01:01:14,900 It wasn't until Detective Gumshoe fucks it up 1382 01:01:14,900 --> 01:01:16,100 and says Harry Butz. 1383 01:01:16,100 --> 01:01:17,300 Harry Butz, yeah. 1384 01:01:17,300 --> 01:01:20,900 I was like, that's fucking hilarious. 1385 01:01:20,900 --> 01:01:23,180 And all of a sudden realized that every name 1386 01:01:23,180 --> 01:01:25,180 was some kind of fucking, 1387 01:01:26,420 --> 01:01:29,700 some play on shit. 1388 01:01:29,700 --> 01:01:31,380 Frank saw it. 1389 01:01:33,380 --> 01:01:34,420 Frank saw it? 1390 01:01:34,420 --> 01:01:35,260 Yeah. 1391 01:01:35,260 --> 01:01:36,100 What? 1392 01:01:36,100 --> 01:01:36,940 Saw it. 1393 01:01:36,940 --> 01:01:38,340 Saw it. 1394 01:01:38,340 --> 01:01:39,180 Frank saw it. 1395 01:01:39,180 --> 01:01:40,020 I forgot about that. 1396 01:01:40,020 --> 01:01:41,300 He saw it. 1397 01:01:41,300 --> 01:01:42,140 I saw it. 1398 01:01:42,140 --> 01:01:42,980 He was like, right? 1399 01:01:42,980 --> 01:01:43,820 Yeah, Frank saw it. 1400 01:01:43,820 --> 01:01:44,660 Saw it. 1401 01:01:44,660 --> 01:01:45,900 That's ridiculous. 1402 01:01:45,900 --> 01:01:47,700 I love this game. 1403 01:01:47,700 --> 01:01:48,540 Dick Gumshoe. 1404 01:01:48,540 --> 01:01:49,380 I mean, that's not even. 1405 01:01:49,380 --> 01:01:50,700 I love that one, dude. 1406 01:01:50,700 --> 01:01:52,500 And that guy sucks, but you are right. 1407 01:01:52,500 --> 01:01:53,340 He does grow on you. 1408 01:01:53,340 --> 01:01:56,860 Cause he comes back and I kinda like him. 1409 01:01:56,860 --> 01:01:59,220 He's kind of an honest, good detective, man. 1410 01:01:59,220 --> 01:02:01,340 Yeah, a bit of an adult. 1411 01:02:01,340 --> 01:02:04,020 No, your rival. 1412 01:02:05,180 --> 01:02:06,140 Oh, Edgeworth? 1413 01:02:06,140 --> 01:02:07,740 Yeah, he's just made me think of you. 1414 01:02:07,740 --> 01:02:09,580 Like his name just made me think of you. 1415 01:02:09,580 --> 01:02:10,740 I fucking hated that guy. 1416 01:02:10,740 --> 01:02:11,740 Miles Edgeworth. 1417 01:02:11,740 --> 01:02:13,820 I was like, that should just be Edge's nickname 1418 01:02:13,820 --> 01:02:14,660 from now on. 1419 01:02:14,660 --> 01:02:17,060 No, Edgeworth? 1420 01:02:17,060 --> 01:02:17,900 April May. 1421 01:02:17,900 --> 01:02:19,020 I said that one already. 1422 01:02:19,020 --> 01:02:19,860 Yeah, April May. 1423 01:02:19,860 --> 01:02:21,300 What a terrible name. 1424 01:02:21,300 --> 01:02:23,060 And April May's boss. 1425 01:02:23,940 --> 01:02:26,540 Dude, Mr. Red White. 1426 01:02:26,540 --> 01:02:27,380 Red White. 1427 01:02:27,380 --> 01:02:28,780 Oh, a blue corp. 1428 01:02:28,780 --> 01:02:29,620 A blue corp. 1429 01:02:29,620 --> 01:02:31,260 Oh, he fucking hated that tool bag. 1430 01:02:31,260 --> 01:02:33,260 And he was just the biggest asshole, 1431 01:02:33,260 --> 01:02:36,140 metrosexual fucking Mike. 1432 01:02:36,140 --> 01:02:39,580 He's so, he's too big for his britches. 1433 01:02:39,580 --> 01:02:41,420 Oh, dude, he had all the fucking boy on. 1434 01:02:41,420 --> 01:02:43,300 To be fair, he's kinda like a fucking, 1435 01:02:43,300 --> 01:02:45,020 he's like a true kingpin, honestly. 1436 01:02:45,020 --> 01:02:45,860 He was. 1437 01:02:45,860 --> 01:02:46,700 Yeah, he really was. 1438 01:02:46,700 --> 01:02:48,140 He was an idiot. 1439 01:02:48,140 --> 01:02:50,260 And he would always make up words 1440 01:02:50,260 --> 01:02:52,780 to make him sound extra pretentious. 1441 01:02:52,780 --> 01:02:54,060 Like he thought he was smart, 1442 01:02:54,060 --> 01:02:56,260 but he thought he was just the dumbest fucking dude 1443 01:02:56,260 --> 01:02:57,220 just making shit up. 1444 01:02:57,220 --> 01:02:58,060 And it worked for him somehow. 1445 01:02:58,060 --> 01:02:59,700 It was really, I will say, 1446 01:02:59,700 --> 01:03:02,220 as annoying as that final court case was, 1447 01:03:02,220 --> 01:03:05,620 because of how many times his testimony 1448 01:03:05,620 --> 01:03:06,900 was revised and it was just, 1449 01:03:06,900 --> 01:03:08,580 every time you think, oh, I finally got him, 1450 01:03:08,580 --> 01:03:10,260 and it's just like, nope. 1451 01:03:10,260 --> 01:03:11,100 Nope. 1452 01:03:11,100 --> 01:03:12,260 I'm like, this is bullshit. 1453 01:03:12,260 --> 01:03:15,180 I definitely have this proven, what the fuck? 1454 01:03:15,180 --> 01:03:18,860 And he just got the fucking everyone on his payroll. 1455 01:03:18,860 --> 01:03:20,660 Yeah, because he's paying everybody off 1456 01:03:20,660 --> 01:03:22,820 or blackmailing everybody. 1457 01:03:22,820 --> 01:03:23,660 It was good though. 1458 01:03:23,660 --> 01:03:25,540 It was good watching him get his was honestly 1459 01:03:25,540 --> 01:03:26,940 satisfying as fuck, 1460 01:03:26,940 --> 01:03:29,900 even though the rules were a bit fucking janky. 1461 01:03:29,900 --> 01:03:31,620 Oh man, it's so unfortunate 1462 01:03:31,620 --> 01:03:33,500 it doesn't have this lady's actual name on here. 1463 01:03:33,500 --> 01:03:35,420 It's a security lady. 1464 01:03:35,420 --> 01:03:38,220 But her last name is Old Bags. 1465 01:03:38,220 --> 01:03:39,140 Old Bags? 1466 01:03:39,140 --> 01:03:39,980 Bags. 1467 01:03:39,980 --> 01:03:40,980 Bags, Old Bags? 1468 01:03:40,980 --> 01:03:41,820 Yeah. 1469 01:03:41,820 --> 01:03:42,640 That's her name? 1470 01:03:42,640 --> 01:03:43,480 Yeah, that's her last name. 1471 01:03:43,480 --> 01:03:44,320 Yeah. 1472 01:03:44,320 --> 01:03:46,340 And then there's another guy whose name is Will Powers. 1473 01:03:46,340 --> 01:03:47,980 Will Powers, dude. 1474 01:03:49,620 --> 01:03:50,460 I love it. 1475 01:03:50,460 --> 01:03:51,580 And Jack Hammer. 1476 01:03:52,420 --> 01:03:53,340 I love that. 1477 01:03:53,340 --> 01:03:55,460 Yeah, absolutely, Jack Hammer. 1478 01:03:55,460 --> 01:03:57,220 Dude, what the fuck? 1479 01:03:57,220 --> 01:03:59,420 They fucking killed it with these names. 1480 01:03:59,420 --> 01:04:02,620 And Phoenix Wright, what a weird also name. 1481 01:04:02,620 --> 01:04:03,700 Yeah, that one's not a, 1482 01:04:03,700 --> 01:04:07,220 I mean maybe there's a Japanese translation 1483 01:04:07,220 --> 01:04:09,860 that is missed on us there. 1484 01:04:09,860 --> 01:04:13,700 I mean, he rises from the ashes of his. 1485 01:04:13,700 --> 01:04:15,300 Being a shitty lawyer hood. 1486 01:04:15,300 --> 01:04:16,140 I guess, yeah. 1487 01:04:16,140 --> 01:04:17,500 Sure, yeah. 1488 01:04:17,500 --> 01:04:21,340 He is just a little fledgling lawyer boy. 1489 01:04:21,340 --> 01:04:24,780 Just working his butt off to fight the opposition 1490 01:04:24,780 --> 01:04:26,020 and seek a claim. 1491 01:04:26,020 --> 01:04:27,620 Be a detective basically. 1492 01:04:27,620 --> 01:04:29,300 Essentially, yeah. 1493 01:04:29,300 --> 01:04:30,580 Again, the rules are, 1494 01:04:30,580 --> 01:04:33,380 unlike roles are a bit flimsy in this universe. 1495 01:04:33,380 --> 01:04:36,700 The only way to prove that your client is innocent 1496 01:04:36,700 --> 01:04:39,500 is to find the murderer. 1497 01:04:40,900 --> 01:04:43,380 Literally, you can't just prove that they didn't do it. 1498 01:04:43,380 --> 01:04:44,980 No, you have to solve the case for it. 1499 01:04:44,980 --> 01:04:45,820 You have to. 1500 01:04:45,820 --> 01:04:46,660 Yeah. 1501 01:04:46,660 --> 01:04:48,140 That's the game. 1502 01:04:48,140 --> 01:04:51,540 Yeah, so a little bit frustrating as well 1503 01:04:51,540 --> 01:04:52,360 because you're like, 1504 01:04:52,360 --> 01:04:53,940 nah, that's not how this fucking works, dude. 1505 01:04:53,940 --> 01:04:55,820 No, but it made it so much more fun. 1506 01:04:55,820 --> 01:04:56,660 What else could you do? 1507 01:04:56,660 --> 01:04:58,420 Why is the attorney telling the judge 1508 01:04:58,420 --> 01:05:00,500 to revise the witness's testimony? 1509 01:05:00,500 --> 01:05:02,420 Like what the fuck, dude? 1510 01:05:02,420 --> 01:05:03,260 Yeah. 1511 01:05:04,460 --> 01:05:07,380 But fun ass games. 1512 01:05:07,380 --> 01:05:08,420 Fucking amazing. 1513 01:05:08,420 --> 01:05:09,260 Hilarious. 1514 01:05:09,260 --> 01:05:10,820 I can't wait for the next one to come up. 1515 01:05:10,820 --> 01:05:11,940 Yeah, that'll be a good time. 1516 01:05:11,940 --> 01:05:12,940 It will. 1517 01:05:12,940 --> 01:05:14,820 This is when I'm finishing. 1518 01:05:14,820 --> 01:05:16,500 I'm so close to the end. 1519 01:05:16,500 --> 01:05:17,700 I feel like I've gotta. 1520 01:05:17,700 --> 01:05:19,700 Yeah, it was what, five episodes? 1521 01:05:19,700 --> 01:05:20,780 I think. 1522 01:05:20,780 --> 01:05:21,620 I think so. 1523 01:05:21,620 --> 01:05:24,340 So I wanna finish, round this one out. 1524 01:05:24,340 --> 01:05:26,660 I'm so curious to how this case ends. 1525 01:05:26,660 --> 01:05:28,540 It'll just sit with me for far too long. 1526 01:05:28,540 --> 01:05:29,380 Right. 1527 01:05:29,380 --> 01:05:30,220 I know. 1528 01:05:30,220 --> 01:05:32,660 I've started the third episode like five times 1529 01:05:32,660 --> 01:05:34,580 and I'm like, I wanna do it. 1530 01:05:34,580 --> 01:05:36,700 I wanna know what's going on. 1531 01:05:36,700 --> 01:05:37,540 We never talked about it 1532 01:05:37,540 --> 01:05:40,540 and I wanna squeeze it into the very end here. 1533 01:05:40,540 --> 01:05:43,700 The single greatest safe feature in any game 1534 01:05:43,700 --> 01:05:45,820 I've ever experienced in my entire life. 1535 01:05:45,820 --> 01:05:49,340 You can save the game anytime. 1536 01:05:49,340 --> 01:05:50,620 It doesn't matter. 1537 01:05:50,620 --> 01:05:52,860 Granted, you have to save and close the game, 1538 01:05:53,820 --> 01:05:56,100 but you can literally like be in the middle of a dialogue 1539 01:05:56,100 --> 01:05:58,260 at any point in time and just hit the start button 1540 01:05:58,260 --> 01:06:02,380 and save the game and it saves it instantly. 1541 01:06:02,380 --> 01:06:04,940 But it saves it from the chapter beginning. 1542 01:06:04,940 --> 01:06:07,380 No, you can load the start or chapter start 1543 01:06:07,380 --> 01:06:09,340 or from your save point or chapter start. 1544 01:06:09,340 --> 01:06:10,300 Shut the fuck up. 1545 01:06:10,300 --> 01:06:12,420 I'm dead serious at any point in time. 1546 01:06:13,340 --> 01:06:15,380 And so I would just pick up and play it. 1547 01:06:15,380 --> 01:06:19,140 I'd be like, and then I'd have to jump up and do something. 1548 01:06:19,140 --> 01:06:21,580 Just save it, boom, set it down, keep going. 1549 01:06:21,580 --> 01:06:22,420 Man. 1550 01:06:22,420 --> 01:06:23,260 Yeah, dude. 1551 01:06:23,260 --> 01:06:24,300 That would have changed my experience. 1552 01:06:24,300 --> 01:06:25,180 I didn't know that. 1553 01:06:25,180 --> 01:06:27,040 I thought that you could really only save 1554 01:06:27,040 --> 01:06:28,820 at the beginning of the chapter 1555 01:06:28,820 --> 01:06:32,500 or when it gives you those pop-ups to save. 1556 01:06:32,500 --> 01:06:34,900 That's what I thought were your only save points. 1557 01:06:34,900 --> 01:06:36,820 There was a random tool tip, I think, 1558 01:06:36,820 --> 01:06:40,500 at some point that said you can hit start at any point 1559 01:06:40,500 --> 01:06:41,780 and save the game. 1560 01:06:41,780 --> 01:06:44,340 I know, I'd seen that, but I was like, 1561 01:06:44,340 --> 01:06:47,220 okay, what a good, that fucking does me, dude. 1562 01:06:47,220 --> 01:06:48,460 Well, I can save at any point, 1563 01:06:48,460 --> 01:06:50,620 but it's gonna take me back to the same. 1564 01:06:50,620 --> 01:06:52,860 You could literally do it in like the first three seconds 1565 01:06:52,860 --> 01:06:54,580 of the cut scene at the beginning of a chapter 1566 01:06:54,580 --> 01:06:55,980 and still load from there. 1567 01:06:55,980 --> 01:06:56,940 It's ridiculous. 1568 01:06:56,940 --> 01:06:58,180 Oh my God. 1569 01:06:58,180 --> 01:06:59,460 Very primo. 1570 01:06:59,460 --> 01:07:01,100 Shut the fuck up. 1571 01:07:01,100 --> 01:07:05,420 I'm so mad right now. 1572 01:07:05,420 --> 01:07:08,500 Watch the next title that we play on the venture 1573 01:07:08,500 --> 01:07:12,300 not have that at all and just missed out entirely. 1574 01:07:12,300 --> 01:07:13,140 So mad. 1575 01:07:14,340 --> 01:07:17,420 But for what little bit of gameplay you have left, 1576 01:07:17,420 --> 01:07:18,820 you're welcome. 1577 01:07:18,820 --> 01:07:19,660 Thanks. 1578 01:07:19,660 --> 01:07:20,500 I am glad I brought that up. 1579 01:07:20,500 --> 01:07:22,780 Shit, I was gonna text you about it too 1580 01:07:22,780 --> 01:07:25,380 at like early, like day three of the week 1581 01:07:25,380 --> 01:07:27,860 to just be like, how good is the save feature? 1582 01:07:29,580 --> 01:07:31,180 What are you talking about? 1583 01:07:31,180 --> 01:07:33,660 Next time I will, even if it seems odd. 1584 01:07:33,660 --> 01:07:35,620 I would have thought that you would have been like, 1585 01:07:35,620 --> 01:07:37,820 just saying, I like the pacing of it. 1586 01:07:37,820 --> 01:07:40,940 Like it really makes you kind of hooked in 1587 01:07:40,940 --> 01:07:42,460 for this amount of time. 1588 01:07:42,460 --> 01:07:45,060 And I do like that. 1589 01:07:45,060 --> 01:07:48,140 I've struggled to like have, 1590 01:07:48,140 --> 01:07:50,420 cause you don't really know how long 1591 01:07:50,420 --> 01:07:52,300 a certain something's gonna be. 1592 01:07:52,300 --> 01:07:54,100 And sometimes it's much longer. 1593 01:07:54,100 --> 01:07:56,980 Like that second chapter for me just went out forever. 1594 01:07:56,980 --> 01:07:59,300 But I also struggled with some of the testimonies 1595 01:07:59,300 --> 01:08:00,140 getting in the way. 1596 01:08:00,140 --> 01:08:04,500 But at first I didn't realize you could save whenever. 1597 01:08:04,500 --> 01:08:08,180 And so I was like, ooh, I'm gonna struggle to, 1598 01:08:08,180 --> 01:08:09,540 even though I'm emulating it, 1599 01:08:09,540 --> 01:08:13,220 like I'm gonna struggle to like be able to figure out 1600 01:08:13,220 --> 01:08:15,700 how to allocate enough time without it timing out 1601 01:08:15,700 --> 01:08:17,580 or shutting off or whatever. 1602 01:08:17,580 --> 01:08:18,900 I ran into that. 1603 01:08:18,900 --> 01:08:20,180 But then once I figured that out, I was like, 1604 01:08:20,180 --> 01:08:22,180 oh, well, I could literally consume this 1605 01:08:22,180 --> 01:08:24,340 in 30 second chunks if I wanted to. 1606 01:08:24,340 --> 01:08:26,620 Like that was cool. 1607 01:08:26,620 --> 01:08:28,420 I enjoyed that quite significant. 1608 01:08:28,420 --> 01:08:31,300 When I had ran into the issue of, 1609 01:08:31,300 --> 01:08:34,100 I think maybe my cat getting on my computer 1610 01:08:34,100 --> 01:08:37,860 and shutting it off and thus losing my progress 1611 01:08:37,860 --> 01:08:40,460 and having to backtrack a bit, 1612 01:08:40,460 --> 01:08:44,020 I was actually juggling between running Temporos 1613 01:08:44,020 --> 01:08:48,220 on RuneScape and clicking through the dialogue 1614 01:08:48,220 --> 01:08:49,060 and everything. 1615 01:08:49,060 --> 01:08:50,940 Click, click, click, click, click, do my fucking task. 1616 01:08:50,940 --> 01:08:53,700 Click, click, click, click, click, doing my task. 1617 01:08:53,700 --> 01:08:54,540 Hell yeah. 1618 01:08:54,540 --> 01:08:57,260 It's paced so perfectly. 1619 01:08:58,580 --> 01:09:00,260 Yeah, it's cool. 1620 01:09:00,260 --> 01:09:02,580 I enjoyed it quite a bit. 1621 01:09:02,580 --> 01:09:06,340 So I know we had already picked a game 1622 01:09:06,340 --> 01:09:11,340 for our next deal. 1623 01:09:13,580 --> 01:09:15,180 But talking about it, 1624 01:09:15,180 --> 01:09:20,180 I'm wondering if you wanna play the new Super Mario Bros. 1625 01:09:20,660 --> 01:09:21,500 Ooh. 1626 01:09:23,740 --> 01:09:24,900 Yes. 1627 01:09:26,020 --> 01:09:26,860 Yeah. 1628 01:09:26,860 --> 01:09:27,700 Yeah, I would be super down for that. 1629 01:09:27,700 --> 01:09:28,740 Yeah. 1630 01:09:28,740 --> 01:09:32,500 Honestly, the other game that we had talked about, 1631 01:09:32,500 --> 01:09:33,780 which I won't mention now 1632 01:09:33,780 --> 01:09:35,260 because it'll be a surprise for later. 1633 01:09:35,260 --> 01:09:36,820 Yeah, because I fucking. 1634 01:09:36,820 --> 01:09:37,940 I do actually still wanna play that. 1635 01:09:37,940 --> 01:09:39,340 I do wanna play that one. 1636 01:09:39,340 --> 01:09:41,140 Like normally when I've said this in the past, 1637 01:09:41,140 --> 01:09:43,220 it's been like, this game sucks. 1638 01:09:43,220 --> 01:09:44,060 I don't wanna play it. 1639 01:09:44,060 --> 01:09:46,540 No, it was just talking about Super Mario. 1640 01:09:46,540 --> 01:09:49,540 I'm like, this is a great game. 1641 01:09:49,540 --> 01:09:50,380 Yeah. 1642 01:09:50,380 --> 01:09:52,700 This new Super Mario Bros. dude, 1643 01:09:52,700 --> 01:09:56,340 this is one of the first games that I got on my R4 1644 01:09:56,340 --> 01:09:58,020 back when I first got an R4. 1645 01:09:58,020 --> 01:09:58,860 Okay. 1646 01:09:58,860 --> 01:10:01,460 And because I had thought, 1647 01:10:01,460 --> 01:10:04,020 I remember really enjoying this game on the Game Boy Color 1648 01:10:04,020 --> 01:10:05,780 as we were discussing. 1649 01:10:05,780 --> 01:10:09,860 And I was just always hesitant to buy it. 1650 01:10:11,260 --> 01:10:13,420 A Mario game is a Mario game is a Mario game. 1651 01:10:13,420 --> 01:10:14,620 Sure. 1652 01:10:14,620 --> 01:10:16,020 Not true. 1653 01:10:16,020 --> 01:10:16,860 Really? 1654 01:10:16,860 --> 01:10:17,700 They fucking. 1655 01:10:17,700 --> 01:10:22,380 So there are now we see there's what Super Mario Bros. 1656 01:10:22,380 --> 01:10:23,740 Wonder, is that what it's called? 1657 01:10:23,740 --> 01:10:24,700 That just came out. 1658 01:10:24,700 --> 01:10:26,380 That's the 2D one. 1659 01:10:26,380 --> 01:10:28,780 And I think there was one on the Wii U as well. 1660 01:10:28,780 --> 01:10:29,860 Okay. 1661 01:10:29,860 --> 01:10:33,740 This was kind of the resurgence of 2D Mario. 1662 01:10:33,740 --> 01:10:35,580 In the more like modern landscape, 1663 01:10:35,580 --> 01:10:37,020 every kind of split to 3D. 1664 01:10:37,020 --> 01:10:37,860 Yep. 1665 01:10:37,860 --> 01:10:38,700 Gotcha. 1666 01:10:38,700 --> 01:10:39,540 Okay. 1667 01:10:39,540 --> 01:10:40,380 Fuck yeah. 1668 01:10:40,380 --> 01:10:41,780 And it fucking does it beautifully. 1669 01:10:41,780 --> 01:10:42,620 Hell yeah. 1670 01:10:42,620 --> 01:10:43,700 We're excited about that actually. 1671 01:10:43,700 --> 01:10:44,540 Okay. 1672 01:10:44,540 --> 01:10:45,380 Let's do it. 1673 01:10:45,380 --> 01:10:46,220 All right. 1674 01:10:46,220 --> 01:10:47,060 Yeah. 1675 01:10:47,060 --> 01:10:47,900 Fuck the other idea. 1676 01:10:47,900 --> 01:10:48,740 Yeah. 1677 01:10:48,740 --> 01:10:49,580 Until later. 1678 01:10:49,580 --> 01:10:50,420 Until later. 1679 01:10:50,420 --> 01:10:51,260 Yeah. 1680 01:10:51,260 --> 01:10:52,080 We'll do that one. 1681 01:10:52,080 --> 01:10:52,920 Definitely keep that one on the side. 1682 01:10:52,920 --> 01:10:53,760 Hell yeah. 1683 01:10:53,760 --> 01:10:54,600 I'm excited. 1684 01:10:54,600 --> 01:10:55,420 Okay. 1685 01:10:55,420 --> 01:10:56,260 Yeah. 1686 01:10:56,260 --> 01:10:57,100 I'm super stoked. 1687 01:10:57,100 --> 01:10:57,940 I'm Fletcher. 1688 01:10:57,940 --> 01:10:58,780 This over here is Ed. 1689 01:10:58,780 --> 01:10:59,620 Yo. 1690 01:10:59,620 --> 01:11:00,460 We are Pocket Cast. 1691 01:11:00,460 --> 01:11:04,940 You can reach us at pocketcastpodcast at gmail.com. 1692 01:11:04,940 --> 01:11:07,420 When you can find us on Instagram, 1693 01:11:07,420 --> 01:11:10,220 Pocket Space Cast with an exclamation mark. 1694 01:11:10,220 --> 01:11:12,300 Same goes for Facebook. 1695 01:11:12,300 --> 01:11:15,540 And I just want to say thank you for listening, 1696 01:11:15,540 --> 01:11:18,860 for hanging out with us for a year. 1697 01:11:18,860 --> 01:11:19,700 And we're- 1698 01:11:19,700 --> 01:11:20,520 That's crazy. 1699 01:11:20,520 --> 01:11:22,140 Or for a couple episodes. 1700 01:11:22,140 --> 01:11:43,140 Either way, thanks for being here for the celebration.