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Ladies and gentlemen, please remove all hats, spectacles, testicles, wallets, and watches

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for Pocket Cast!

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I'm Fletcher.

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And I'm Ed.

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And we can be found on Twitter.

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You'll find that in the description.

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And we are recording in a new space today.

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It's my space.

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It's your space.

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I'm excited to hear the sound difference.

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Oh, God.

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It was...

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I just remember we were talking about it earlier today and I was like, my place is super echoey.

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So I've got a smelly comforter hanging over the window.

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And I say, yeah, it seems to be doing okay.

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It really gives it this nice college mood in here.

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Damn.

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Yeah, it really does.

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I don't know that I would say nice.

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It's its own kind of nice.

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Yeah, it's all right.

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It is okay.

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You know, it sticks to the...

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We had talked about fucking like, I don't know, four episodes ago, we had the joke about

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how the audio levels were always changing and we were actually tricking people by like

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our canter and things like that to like make them addicted.

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And this is once again, fueling that ADD need.

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Yeah, it's this, what would they call it?

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Subliminal hypnosis, perhaps?

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Throw some ASMR in there too.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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So I don't want to be that...

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I get so mad.

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I get so frustrated.

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Let me go get my microphone cover that's shaped like an ear so I can put it in my mouth.

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I can walk past somebody listening to a TikTok and it has the ASMR little things in it.

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It just fucking kills me.

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I don't understand how scratching a microphone can be a satisfying sound.

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I understand some of the ASMR.

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Some of it, I understand pleasing noises.

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Who doesn't understand that?

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Sure.

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I mean, the choice of them sometimes and then other times I think that I'm just old and

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getting trolled is probably what it is maybe.

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I don't know if you're getting trolled as much as like, I don't know, man.

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Like you and I grew up right after, right before rather, phones and like the internet

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really became a thing.

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So like, I mean, I can't tell you how many times I've thought to myself, wow, I'm glad

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I didn't have a fucking iPhone 14 in high school.

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I might like, yeah, I probably would have done something stupid.

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I would have, I would have, I would have done, I already did.

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Yeah, exactly.

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Well, I mean, fuck, we had like MSN and, you know, Facebook and.

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Yeah.

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Cause like Facebook, I was, I was in high school when Facebook came around publicly.

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Definitely.

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I think we were probably like middle schoolers when Facebook was the, the big deal for like

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college.

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Like we, we had the, um, MySpace Facebook transition for sure.

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But like.

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We, we still had that hybrid background, right?

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Like.

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Yeah, we had no.

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I don't want everybody knowing my shit.

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Like I'll be embarrassed as fuck.

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And now, and like, and everyone was for like 10 years, everyone was like, Oh, I'm kind

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of embarrassed about this stuff on the internet.

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And then like when you liked, yeah, because your Tumblr was separate from your Facebook.

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Oh, hundred percent.

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Absolutely.

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Oh.

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My Tumblr is still separate from my Facebook.

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But.

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But.

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I posted.

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Yeah, because I remember when it was like,

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Instagram used to be the safe thing to scroll through

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and then Instagram no longer was safe.

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So then it was like, oh, when I'm at work,

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I'll scroll through Facebook.

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Yeah, no.

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Now that's not even fucking safe, but now it is also safe.

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It's okay to see like some like half naked person

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on someone's phone, like, or the one that blows my mind.

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or the lack of care, but they'll be watching videos

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that have like the notoriously like,

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oh, that sound clip is only used for like basically porn.

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People wrap themselves out

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because the sound clips they're listening to is like,

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oh, that's a thirst trap clip.

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Yeah, that's the only time I've heard that.

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And so, yeah, they're just sitting in the bar,

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just like have it going.

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I mean, part of that, I have to think

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on the old men's part, that's like,

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that's one part like don't give a shit

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and another part ignorance.

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Like, I don't think they're putting that together.

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Like everyone, it's like, you know,

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every time you hear a joke about like

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the grinder notification sound, right?

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Like giving married men away because-

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Right, and like I have no idea what that sound is.

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Actually I do, because I watched like a five minute

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like comedy clip, like just last night or some shit.

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It just featured that sound back to back to back.

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It was hilarious.

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But yeah, it was the same thing.

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When the porn hub thing was there,

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like putting that song into videos to make it sound

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like someone was about to start watching porn.

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Like there was like the trick thing with that song.

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I did not know that song.

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Oh, really?

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I had never used porn hub really.

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That's just not the site that I've used.

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I mean, I like to rotate around.

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It's just not the one in my rotation.

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Reddit changed their API policies, like third party API.

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Basically how much and how,

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or like when you have to pay Reddit by volume

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for how many APA calls you're making,

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which directly affects third party apps.

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And so Reddit for iOS sucks ass.

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What's an API?

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API is a application programming or programmable interface,

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something like that.

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So what's that translate Englishly?

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So basically Reddit has the Reddit application.

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You go to Reddit.com and loads Reddit.com, right?

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And then they have their mobile app and it's,

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I don't know what kind of app it is.

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Doesn't really matter too much,

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but basically it either has its own like backend

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separate from.com,

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but they probably pull from the same content sources

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or it's a wrapper of the website.

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So it might have its own custom front end shell,

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but on the backend,

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it's still making service calls to get the information

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from the website API endpoints.

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And that's all it is.

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It's just a, it's a node that you can access

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over the network, usually the internet in this instance,

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to get information from something, usually an application.

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So third party apps have to call all of the API endpoints

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to get the information to load the pages in the end.

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So the Reddit for iOS app sucks dick,

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sucks fat fat dick.

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There was this third party app, Apollo,

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and Apollo was sick.

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It had like an option where you could have multiple

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account profiles loaded in.

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So your account info saved and you just like, whoop,

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tap a button, load a different profile.

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So get where I'm going with this.

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You get anonymity profile.

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Yeah. You have a porn profile.

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Yeah, exactly.

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So not to flip of a switch.

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Just boom.

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And it's so sneaky, dude.

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You're not like no one, I'm not gonna have ten of these,

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bro, really raunchy shit all the way at the bottom.

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So, and it was beautiful because like, yeah, dude, okay.

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So all of the image and file sharing platforms

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have like audio with GIFs now.

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So you just have a fucking, you just,

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it's a select a wheel of porn.

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You just like, everybody's got the clips loaded in there

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and you're like, oh, that's the one.

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Let's go to the source.

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Dude, curated pornography.

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All right.

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There's none of this endless scrolling for bullshit.

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No, no, no.

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You just delve into your kinks on the internet.

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You find the weird shit that you didn't know

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there was a name for out there.

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And then you follow like five of the subreddits and then,

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anyway, so Reddit changed how their shit works

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and they're charging way more money now.

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So my favorite fucking app, Apollo, just died.

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They just took it down like, I don't know,

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a week, week and a half ago.

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Damn, blue ball head over here.

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No, so anyways, I've been on Pornhub lately.

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So that's how I know that one.

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Which reminds me of SNK versus Capcom on Cardfighters.

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Yeah, I really, you know,

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there's a lot of similarities that you wouldn't expect

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to find between a porn website and a card game,

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which we totally thought was a fighter game.

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Definitely thought it was a fighter game.

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Not a fighter game.

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Not a fighter game.

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Not even, not in the slightest.

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That's the thing that we had laughed about

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was that we covered our slight knowledge of fighter games

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and it turns out that that didn't matter.

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So before we get into SNK, Capcom Cardfighters,

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I'm curious about, you strike me as the kind of guy,

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like I know that you've played some Magic the Gathering.

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Hearthstone I'm sure you were into at one point.

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Hearthstone, yeah, 100%.

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Yeah, so you've got some,

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you've got more card game experience than I do.

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Shit, I, huh.

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What about Pokemon Trading Card Game?

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You ever played that one?

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It was a Game Boy Color game?

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Pokemon, I just never could get into Pokemon.

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Well, yeah, I guess it was accessible for you.

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I wanted to be my whole life and it just, yeah.

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And I just, I don't have that childhood charm

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to like pull me in.

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And at this point, I feel like my interests are set

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in such a way that I'm, I just really am not,

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I don't have the time to branch out.

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Even as a kid, the Trading Card Game, as a Pokemon fan,

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it wasn't for Pokemon like game or show fans.

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It was a hard card game.

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Like most card games, I feel like,

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Oh, there's definitely,

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there's an immediate learning curve.

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That's steeper than a battle game or, you know,

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however, what is a funny comparison I'm just now making

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is that a fighting games learning curve is kind of similar

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to a card games.

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Not, it's steeper, I would say a fighting games is.

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No, it's, I kind of see where you're going with this.

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All right.

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It takes some time.

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Cause you have to learn your character

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and your own move set and abilities

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as well as everyone else's.

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And the response to it.

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Yeah.

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So you have to, you have to really play a lot

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to learn a lot before you can actually begin to play

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the game and formula strategies.

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Like I'd say those two share that a lot.

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Yeah. That's a good, that's like,

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that's a pretty good, good, interesting point.

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Yeah, I like that.

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So what's your favorite card, card, well, not card game,

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but what do you call these types of card games?

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Card fighting games.

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Yeah. I don't card battle.

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Card battler.

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That's kind of what I was thinking of on the internet.

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It seemed like this specifically was card fighters.

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And I think that's, I think that's like the term.

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Well, yeah.

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Just for the series.

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Yeah. Right.

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Yeah. I, I don't know.

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I was thinking to myself, card battler made more sense,

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but I definitely think of something like hearthstone

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and I think it definitely thought of magic.

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You know, it's weird because it doesn't feel like

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either of them, but it's definitely both of them

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at the same time.

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But one thing that I would say,

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both of those games had that this game lacked

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was brevity in its information, right?

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You look at the face of a hearthstone card or a magic card.

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And as long as you know, like what the icons are

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and everything, you know everything upfront.

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And this one, it does have the bulk of it there

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when you're looking at like the deck builder,

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because it'll show you the colored bubbles

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that tells you what kind of like,

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oh, I don't remember what the game calls them,

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but basically your mana.

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Power points.

292
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Yeah.

293
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Yeah. Power points to be able to play and use cards.

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There's what, like five different elements, I believe.

295
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Yeah. Because I mean, you've got the blank one.

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You've got yellow, green, red, blue.

297
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Yeah.

298
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That's what I mainly encountered.

299
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Yeah. That's, yeah.

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That's what I knew, knew of, know of.

301
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So it's pretty similar in that way,

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but on the platform, you have to like scroll through

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to see like your health and attack power,

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which is super important to know.

305
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Well, isn't that the first thing it tells you is health?

306
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Yeah.

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That's the first thing you see.

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Health and BP.

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BP and HP.

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Battle points. Power, battle points, whatever.

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That's what I figured it was.

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Which is, it's a direct correlation

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to how much damage they do.

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You do. Yep.

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And then the next screen shows the cost

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to play the card into your active hand

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or your field, your deck, whatever.

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Yep.

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I think that's a lot of stuff.

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And it also gives you the information on the front

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when it tells you the health and stuff.

322
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It tells you what type of card it is.

323
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Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

324
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Right? Because they all have a certain color type

325
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that they are. Yeah.

326
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What I found is you basically have different types

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of cards in a given set, right?

328
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Because most of the cards are gonna be grouped by

329
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like what color mana or what, or what did you call it?

330
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What do you mean grouped?

331
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Well, so each card primarily represents one of the colors

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for the most part.

333
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Yeah.

334
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So it'll have that, usually that color summon requirement.

335
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It will produce so much of that color mana per turn.

336
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And then to use its ability, assuming it has one,

337
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that has a cost as well.

338
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Yep.

339
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And so you can group these cards primarily by like

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what color their requirement and output is.

341
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But for each of those categories,

342
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you have like a handful of like low cost summons

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that usually cost the white, which is any.

344
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And they'll produce one of that color to kind of get you in

345
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because it starts you off with usually,

346
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I think just like a couple of like white mana points

347
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or whatever.

348
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So anyway.

349
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Yeah, you start out with what?

350
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Two or four?

351
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It's something like that.

352
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I think it's three actually.

353
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I think it's right between, I think it's three.

354
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It's usually enough to like somehow barely put one out,

355
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but then the AI can put three out every time.

356
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Well, see, and that's,

357
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I can tell you the strategy right there.

358
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And that's all I was about to say is you can very quickly

359
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start to see some strategy.

360
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I think Ed kind of like kind of roughly covered

361
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some things there that are gonna become more,

362
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they're gonna need a more clear explanation

363
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as we get further into it.

364
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It's very complex, but it hands you no tokens.

365
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Say I pull a little, you know,

366
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you pull five cards out at the beginning.

367
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Yeah.

368
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And it has, it's a yellow type card

369
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and it costs three blanks to use.

370
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If I burn that card within that turn,

371
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I get a yellow point because I burned a yellow type card.

372
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I did finally notice that.

373
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So now I've got three blanks and a yellow,

374
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which means I can pull up potentially

375
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a stronger guy that I have

376
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because he only requires two blanks and a yellow.

377
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I have one person that requires just one blank.

378
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Now I've got two people on the field.

379
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I can burn another card, you know,

380
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cause I've now got two cards left in my deck.

381
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So you can burn one or two of those.

382
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And then you're gonna get more of those colors

383
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to spend the next turn as long as your cards

384
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of those types stay in play, as in they don't get killed.

385
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Cause if they get killed off,

386
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you don't get those points again.

387
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And I can really screw you.

388
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You only generate the mana per active card

389
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at the start of your turn.

390
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Yeah. Right? Yeah.

391
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And one thing is that I saw

392
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by the time you get to the second boss,

393
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you're running into even the AI

394
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throwing different strategies at you.

395
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And you're gonna, you gotta try to figure out

396
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and honestly kind of guess what strat

397
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they're gonna throw out

398
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because you could just throw out like your big,

399
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your expensive cards you can throw out, get those points.

400
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And then you can just throw in a bunch of really cheap

401
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to use people that are low health.

402
00:15:39,160 --> 00:15:41,960
But when your full thing is filled with people

403
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and I've got like two cards out and they're both locked up

404
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and I can't use them or defend myself.

405
00:15:47,240 --> 00:15:49,480
You're about to do so much damage to me.

406
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Even with all these low point people

407
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that are gonna be able to be taken out later on.

408
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So there's immediately handful of strategies

409
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to try to figure out.

410
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And you're trying to advance in the game

411
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fighting harder and harder people

412
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as you're trying to learn.

413
00:16:06,440 --> 00:16:08,320
Cause you like you said, you are right.

414
00:16:08,320 --> 00:16:12,160
It is not very giving in that sense

415
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of telling you what to do or learn and teaching you.

416
00:16:15,720 --> 00:16:18,720
There's a very short tutorial

417
00:16:18,720 --> 00:16:22,760
that is kind of hard to understand.

418
00:16:22,760 --> 00:16:25,080
Yeah, it doesn't even really explain to,

419
00:16:25,080 --> 00:16:27,880
it's really more like, hey, here's what the buttons are.

420
00:16:27,880 --> 00:16:30,640
And you're like, yep, there's not a lot of them.

421
00:16:30,640 --> 00:16:34,400
And I've played a game before, so we're good.

422
00:16:36,080 --> 00:16:37,240
And then that's pretty much it.

423
00:16:37,240 --> 00:16:41,120
They're like, yeah, put cards down, be good, win.

424
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And you're like, okay.

425
00:16:42,920 --> 00:16:44,720
And the English is so broken too.

426
00:16:44,720 --> 00:16:47,800
If it is trying to give me any information,

427
00:16:47,800 --> 00:16:49,240
I can't understand it.

428
00:16:49,240 --> 00:16:52,600
No, no, it's the, yeah, the translation is pretty rough.

429
00:16:53,760 --> 00:16:56,480
The game really fucked my face for a hot, hot minute

430
00:16:56,480 --> 00:16:58,080
when I first started playing.

431
00:16:58,080 --> 00:17:00,620
Cause like, again, I knew it was a card game coming in,

432
00:17:00,620 --> 00:17:02,640
but I was really thinking something

433
00:17:03,800 --> 00:17:06,280
a little bit more handholdy like Hearthstone.

434
00:17:06,280 --> 00:17:08,960
Cause that's one of the reasons why I like Hearthstone.

435
00:17:08,960 --> 00:17:10,680
And ultimately actually,

436
00:17:10,680 --> 00:17:13,460
whatever the digital version of magic is,

437
00:17:13,460 --> 00:17:14,800
I think it might just be magic together.

438
00:17:14,800 --> 00:17:15,640
There's magic together.

439
00:17:15,640 --> 00:17:16,600
Yeah, whatever.

440
00:17:16,600 --> 00:17:19,040
So yeah, and it's just because

441
00:17:20,680 --> 00:17:24,440
my requirement to remember all of the intricate rules

442
00:17:24,440 --> 00:17:29,440
that are just so tedious becomes almost unnecessary

443
00:17:29,440 --> 00:17:32,560
because the game has those rules built in.

444
00:17:32,560 --> 00:17:35,840
And I don't have to remember if it's my turn or not.

445
00:17:35,840 --> 00:17:38,840
So I can just focus on what the cards do.

446
00:17:38,840 --> 00:17:40,320
And then for the most part,

447
00:17:40,320 --> 00:17:43,960
I can have a good time at pretty much almost any skill tier.

448
00:17:47,200 --> 00:17:52,200
This game, one, like for three fights,

449
00:17:52,680 --> 00:17:55,120
I didn't realize that I needed to like change the page

450
00:17:55,120 --> 00:17:58,620
of the card to view like the different stats and stuff.

451
00:17:58,620 --> 00:18:01,880
And I just knew that sometimes I could put a card down

452
00:18:01,880 --> 00:18:03,120
and sometimes I couldn't.

453
00:18:03,120 --> 00:18:04,420
It just felt really arbitrary.

454
00:18:04,420 --> 00:18:06,460
And I just, I was looking at health and damage

455
00:18:06,460 --> 00:18:09,880
and I was like, okay, I don't, how are we comboing?

456
00:18:09,880 --> 00:18:10,720
What is it?

457
00:18:11,960 --> 00:18:13,040
It was pretty brutal.

458
00:18:13,040 --> 00:18:14,160
I think I got it.

459
00:18:14,160 --> 00:18:15,080
I think I gotta put you,

460
00:18:15,080 --> 00:18:17,080
I understand where you're coming from

461
00:18:17,080 --> 00:18:20,900
when you say that it doesn't hold your hand enough.

462
00:18:20,900 --> 00:18:23,440
You said earlier about magic, the gathering

463
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and how it's all very explained well on the card.

464
00:18:26,880 --> 00:18:27,720
Yeah.

465
00:18:27,720 --> 00:18:28,540
I disagree.

466
00:18:28,540 --> 00:18:31,000
My experience with magic, the gatherings was like

467
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way back first in like early two thousands.

468
00:18:34,360 --> 00:18:35,200
Okay.

469
00:18:35,200 --> 00:18:37,400
And then it was then, yes, I agree with you.

470
00:18:37,400 --> 00:18:40,520
It was a pretty easy game, even for like a sixth grader.

471
00:18:40,520 --> 00:18:41,360
Yeah.

472
00:18:41,360 --> 00:18:42,720
Like myself to play.

473
00:18:42,720 --> 00:18:44,000
You're talking about the digital version

474
00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:45,000
or you're talking about the card cards?

475
00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:45,840
The card cards.

476
00:18:45,840 --> 00:18:47,520
Yeah, I'm not talking about the card cards.

477
00:18:47,520 --> 00:18:49,980
So then when you get, so yeah, you are right.

478
00:18:49,980 --> 00:18:51,680
Where when you're talking about the game,

479
00:18:51,680 --> 00:18:53,440
it holds your hand for like,

480
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you have to fight through 30 people

481
00:18:56,800 --> 00:18:58,840
before you can even get out of that tutorial.

482
00:18:58,840 --> 00:19:01,680
Well, and I just mean that like the game itself,

483
00:19:01,680 --> 00:19:04,960
because the rules engine is built in and it literally,

484
00:19:04,960 --> 00:19:07,120
they won't let you do certain things.

485
00:19:07,120 --> 00:19:09,520
Well, I would say the same thing in this one.

486
00:19:09,520 --> 00:19:10,360
You know.

487
00:19:10,360 --> 00:19:13,040
100% except like,

488
00:19:13,040 --> 00:19:15,600
Because it even tells you, hey, you need to end your turn.

489
00:19:15,600 --> 00:19:16,760
Like on the.

490
00:19:16,760 --> 00:19:20,640
Well, and then my criticism of this game

491
00:19:20,640 --> 00:19:24,400
isn't solely like magic better.

492
00:19:24,400 --> 00:19:27,480
I think they did a good job with the screen real estate

493
00:19:27,480 --> 00:19:30,200
they had certainly at this pixel density.

494
00:19:30,200 --> 00:19:33,960
Cause I mean, yeah, I think I can play magic gathering

495
00:19:33,960 --> 00:19:35,400
in like 4k if I wanted to.

496
00:19:35,400 --> 00:19:38,240
So like, you know, I could put a Bible on there

497
00:19:38,240 --> 00:19:41,600
on like a three by two inch display box

498
00:19:41,600 --> 00:19:42,440
and then be able to read it.

499
00:19:42,440 --> 00:19:43,280
That's fair.

500
00:19:43,280 --> 00:19:45,320
But no, no, I, sorry.

501
00:19:45,320 --> 00:19:46,620
I didn't mean to totally interrupt you,

502
00:19:46,620 --> 00:19:50,120
but I didn't, I wasn't trying to be like unfair.

503
00:19:50,120 --> 00:19:50,960
That's all I meant right there.

504
00:19:50,960 --> 00:19:52,880
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

505
00:19:52,880 --> 00:19:56,920
But I think I see what you're saying

506
00:19:56,920 --> 00:19:59,020
where it isn't the most approachable thing.

507
00:19:59,020 --> 00:20:00,520
And that's where it instantly made me think

508
00:20:00,520 --> 00:20:02,400
of the Pokemon trading card game

509
00:20:02,400 --> 00:20:05,120
because it's instantly you're having to figure out

510
00:20:05,120 --> 00:20:08,360
a strategy and it hasn't given you any lessons

511
00:20:08,360 --> 00:20:09,480
in the strategy.

512
00:20:09,480 --> 00:20:10,320
Yeah.

513
00:20:10,320 --> 00:20:12,320
And that's kind of frustrating,

514
00:20:12,320 --> 00:20:14,360
but I thought it was pretty easy to tell

515
00:20:14,360 --> 00:20:16,280
because right away when you look at your card

516
00:20:16,280 --> 00:20:19,840
at the top of it, it's like, I need so many of these

517
00:20:19,840 --> 00:20:22,200
and so many of these to be played.

518
00:20:22,200 --> 00:20:26,280
And then when you do click on it,

519
00:20:26,280 --> 00:20:28,120
sometimes they have a special attack

520
00:20:28,120 --> 00:20:29,320
and sometimes they don't.

521
00:20:30,400 --> 00:20:32,520
You could usually tell that just in general

522
00:20:32,520 --> 00:20:35,360
by if they were just a small, easy,

523
00:20:35,360 --> 00:20:37,880
like blank fill character to throw in.

524
00:20:37,880 --> 00:20:38,720
Yeah.

525
00:20:38,720 --> 00:20:43,200
Or if they took more different colors to put this card in,

526
00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:46,880
then that's more likely to have a special attack.

527
00:20:46,880 --> 00:20:48,440
But also the special attacks are something

528
00:20:48,440 --> 00:20:50,680
I didn't use too much.

529
00:20:50,680 --> 00:20:51,520
Oh really?

530
00:20:51,520 --> 00:20:52,360
Yeah.

531
00:20:52,360 --> 00:20:53,920
The fusion attack is what I used a lot.

532
00:20:53,920 --> 00:20:55,040
The fusion attack was pretty pimp.

533
00:20:55,040 --> 00:20:57,240
Because if you use a fusion attack,

534
00:20:57,240 --> 00:21:00,160
what you do is you would just kind of sit there

535
00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:01,680
and just build up points

536
00:21:01,680 --> 00:21:03,640
because it takes a good amount of points.

537
00:21:03,640 --> 00:21:07,080
And if you use your two people to do a fusion attack,

538
00:21:07,080 --> 00:21:10,120
you can't use them for defense on the next round

539
00:21:10,120 --> 00:21:11,320
or the next turn.

540
00:21:11,320 --> 00:21:12,320
Yeah.

541
00:21:12,320 --> 00:21:14,680
And so, and that's when the other person

542
00:21:14,680 --> 00:21:16,080
is gonna be attacking you.

543
00:21:16,080 --> 00:21:18,000
So you wanna make sure that you have cards

544
00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:20,200
on the table to defend you.

545
00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:21,440
And then you're gonna sit there

546
00:21:21,440 --> 00:21:23,120
and just start building up points.

547
00:21:23,120 --> 00:21:23,960
Oh.

548
00:21:23,960 --> 00:21:25,360
And then you start using those criticals

549
00:21:25,360 --> 00:21:27,560
or the, what were they called?

550
00:21:27,560 --> 00:21:28,400
The fusion attacks?

551
00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:29,240
The fusion, yeah.

552
00:21:29,240 --> 00:21:30,060
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

553
00:21:30,060 --> 00:21:32,920
Use the fusion and use it on the weakest card

554
00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:34,720
that that person has out.

555
00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:36,840
And what's gonna happen is the

556
00:21:37,960 --> 00:21:39,280
dividend. The damage.

557
00:21:39,280 --> 00:21:42,560
Between the damage that you caused to that card

558
00:21:42,560 --> 00:21:45,120
or the leftover damage from what you caused to that card

559
00:21:45,120 --> 00:21:47,840
from your two cards combined, their special attack.

560
00:21:47,840 --> 00:21:48,680
Yeah.

561
00:21:48,680 --> 00:21:52,120
And that is all just straight to the player.

562
00:21:52,120 --> 00:21:53,040
And that's what you're trying to do

563
00:21:53,040 --> 00:21:55,480
is you're trying to take out the player's health points.

564
00:21:55,480 --> 00:21:57,320
It's like Yu-Gi-Oh in that sense.

565
00:21:57,320 --> 00:21:58,560
And I. Yeah, yeah.

566
00:21:58,560 --> 00:22:00,680
And magic. Magic has that too.

567
00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:01,520
So does Hearthstone.

568
00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:04,600
Okay, so it's pretty much a staple to the.

569
00:22:04,600 --> 00:22:06,040
It is.

570
00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:09,200
That's honestly how I won all of my fights.

571
00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:11,340
See, and that's where we were talking about earlier today

572
00:22:11,340 --> 00:22:13,440
where I think you could kind of rig it.

573
00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:15,040
Where all of a sudden you start doing that

574
00:22:15,040 --> 00:22:17,160
and they would mess the computer up

575
00:22:17,160 --> 00:22:20,120
in a certain way where they would almost stop attacking

576
00:22:20,120 --> 00:22:21,560
and just start building points,

577
00:22:21,560 --> 00:22:23,560
but never do anything with the points that they were building.

578
00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:25,600
I did definitely have several fights

579
00:22:25,600 --> 00:22:27,840
where I'm like, okay, well,

580
00:22:29,320 --> 00:22:34,000
the enemy AI combatant is just farming points.

581
00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:36,920
They're just like, like their field is full

582
00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:39,080
and they're just drawing a card each turn

583
00:22:39,080 --> 00:22:40,800
and just ending their turn. They start getting scared.

584
00:22:40,800 --> 00:22:43,680
And I'm like, uh, what are you doing over there, Haas?

585
00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:45,760
Like, what do you know that I don't know?

586
00:22:45,760 --> 00:22:46,600
Yeah.

587
00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:47,840
Well, nothing.

588
00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:52,840
Did you, so I finally like got keyed into a bunch of shit

589
00:22:52,840 --> 00:22:54,320
when I went through and actually looked

590
00:22:54,320 --> 00:22:55,160
through the deck builder.

591
00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:56,500
Cause every time you instigate a fight,

592
00:22:56,500 --> 00:22:57,800
cause it's almost Pokemon-esque.

593
00:22:57,800 --> 00:22:58,640
Yeah.

594
00:22:58,640 --> 00:23:00,660
Right, you've got this tower, you have to clear.

595
00:23:00,660 --> 00:23:04,200
Each floor has so many people that you have to beat

596
00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:07,360
cause they're all mind fucked by this max,

597
00:23:07,360 --> 00:23:09,920
this card fighting computer.

598
00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:14,000
That wants to take over the world through card fighting.

599
00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:15,840
I don't know how you're going to do that.

600
00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:17,280
This is stupid.

601
00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:19,880
Oh, it's the worst fucking story line.

602
00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:24,560
I mean, it's, there's no point to having a story.

603
00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:27,880
No, and they even make a joke about that in the story.

604
00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:32,720
It's just, it's really, it's so bad that I like it.

605
00:23:34,120 --> 00:23:37,080
It's not an injustice fighting storyline.

606
00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:37,920
That's for sure.

607
00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:39,320
No, it is.

608
00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:43,740
Uh, Metabots maybe at the, like that's talking shit

609
00:23:43,740 --> 00:23:44,580
about Metabots really.

610
00:23:44,580 --> 00:23:46,000
Yeah, really.

611
00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:48,160
It's pretty empty, but it's great

612
00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:49,600
because you don't need the story.

613
00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:51,840
They very quickly early on make a joke

614
00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:53,480
about how bad the story is.

615
00:23:53,480 --> 00:23:55,280
Obviously the team didn't give a shit about it

616
00:23:55,280 --> 00:23:57,840
cause they did nothing to translate it or localize it.

617
00:23:57,840 --> 00:24:00,240
They punched this thing into a translator

618
00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:02,720
and just whatever came out, copy paste.

619
00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:04,440
It does not make sense sometimes.

620
00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:05,420
And it's the funniest thing.

621
00:24:05,420 --> 00:24:07,480
Also, isn't there like,

622
00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:10,840
it's going to be the hardest thing for me to describe,

623
00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:13,980
but when you're reading the text, the conversations,

624
00:24:13,980 --> 00:24:18,240
there's times where they take a word

625
00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:21,660
in the English language.

626
00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:25,360
I can't even think of an example right now.

627
00:24:25,360 --> 00:24:26,400
Lightning.

628
00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:27,640
Yes.

629
00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:30,100
And then they use that for like,

630
00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:34,520
there's a lighting in the room or something like that.

631
00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:36,560
Or like they are lightening the room.

632
00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:37,800
Or I don't know how to describe it,

633
00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:39,480
but instead of a word,

634
00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:42,080
we have to cut so much of this.

635
00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:47,080
They use this word that if you say it,

636
00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:48,400
you go, oh, okay.

637
00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:50,480
That could sound like two English words.

638
00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:52,520
Yeah. Yeah. I know what you're saying.

639
00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:54,120
There's a word for those words.

640
00:24:56,120 --> 00:24:57,200
It's not quite, what is it?

641
00:24:57,200 --> 00:25:00,640
A homonym words that sound the same,

642
00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:01,680
but have a separate meaning.

643
00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:02,560
Or maybe it's the same meaning.

644
00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:04,240
But it's not even, they're not even homonyms.

645
00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:06,160
But it's not even, I know what you're saying.

646
00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:09,880
They take a word like next

647
00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:13,880
and find a way of the best example for this

648
00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:17,020
is those memes of the Mexican word of the day.

649
00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:18,920
Do you remember those?

650
00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:20,840
Do you know what I'm talking about?

651
00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:22,960
Once again, can't think of an example here.

652
00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:24,160
Yeah, since you was,

653
00:25:25,040 --> 00:25:27,760
I thought my wife, since you was up, get me a beer.

654
00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:29,080
Exactly.

655
00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:32,120
That is the exact definition,

656
00:25:32,120 --> 00:25:35,800
like the exact example of what you run into in this game.

657
00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:38,480
Where they should say, well, do they do that in the game?

658
00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:43,480
And it's so fucking funny and weird and confusing at first.

659
00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:45,720
Oh dude, it's great.

660
00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:48,800
And every ounce of dialogue in this game,

661
00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:51,360
honest to God, completely unnecessary.

662
00:25:51,360 --> 00:25:54,640
Like you could literally have no dialogue.

663
00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:57,640
Did you run into any cut scenes?

664
00:25:57,640 --> 00:25:58,480
Well, I mean.

665
00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:00,120
I mean, the dialogue kind of is a cut scene.

666
00:26:00,120 --> 00:26:01,840
The dialogue is the cut scene, yeah.

667
00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:03,000
Like not really.

668
00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:06,680
It's just like the, it's like Fire Emblem,

669
00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:08,680
like dialogue, right?

670
00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:13,240
Like the characters just pop up, dialogue box, disappear.

671
00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:15,840
We have to, it's just like you said, it's like Pokemon too,

672
00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:17,840
where you walk up and it's like,

673
00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:19,840
oh, I like to catch bugs.

674
00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:21,320
Do you want to battle?

675
00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:23,360
You're like, uh, yeah.

676
00:26:23,360 --> 00:26:24,200
That's why I'm here, kid.

677
00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:25,680
I'm only here to kick your ass.

678
00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:28,840
There's a lot less to it even though,

679
00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:32,960
cause you don't even get, there's no actual movement.

680
00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:35,400
You just, like the bottom screen, it has like,

681
00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:37,400
it's not even a map, right?

682
00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:38,600
It's just a grid.

683
00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:40,080
And there's circles.

684
00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:42,320
There's like blue circles or the red circles.

685
00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:43,160
The red ones are the ones you have to beat.

686
00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:44,000
Yeah, the red circles are the ones you haven't fought yet.

687
00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:45,280
Cause once you beat one,

688
00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:48,160
another one basically opens up and then that turns green.

689
00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:50,160
And then, yeah, you just cycle between them.

690
00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:51,000
Like.

691
00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:52,920
Because once you beat them, you are,

692
00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:56,080
the machine no longer has control over these people.

693
00:26:56,080 --> 00:26:58,120
Right, we have to beat these kids in a fighting,

694
00:26:58,120 --> 00:27:00,120
a card fighting, excuse me, game,

695
00:27:00,120 --> 00:27:05,120
in order to free them from the mind enslavement.

696
00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:07,800
God, it is a, what, and like,

697
00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:11,160
the one thing we had talked about earlier too,

698
00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:12,960
that baffles me about this game,

699
00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:14,920
there's so many things that baffle me about it.

700
00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:17,360
And it's something that I think I really enjoy about it.

701
00:27:17,360 --> 00:27:19,520
And it's not even the gameplay itself, but,

702
00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:22,960
Hearthstone, I guess, is an example of this,

703
00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:25,500
where the card game doesn't exist.

704
00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:27,640
What?

705
00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:28,720
Oh, like the physical card game.

706
00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:29,560
The physical card.

707
00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:30,960
Sure, sure, sure, sure, sure.

708
00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:35,960
However, the first SNK versus Capcom card fighters

709
00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:40,200
comes out in like 97?

710
00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:41,040
99.

711
00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:41,880
99.

712
00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:47,840
So that's, it comes out before the actual SNK versus Capcom

713
00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:50,600
slash Capcom versus SNK fighting games.

714
00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:51,440
Yeah.

715
00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:54,880
And I imagine it was kind of like a marketing deal,

716
00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:56,880
but you would think at the same time,

717
00:27:56,880 --> 00:28:00,120
especially with these series having fan bases

718
00:28:00,120 --> 00:28:03,120
in the times of the late nineties,

719
00:28:03,120 --> 00:28:06,000
card games are still kind of a thing.

720
00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:06,840
Yeah.

721
00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:08,160
And that's it.

722
00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:10,600
They're peaking probably because 98's Pokemon.

723
00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:11,440
So for sure.

724
00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:12,560
99, yeah.

725
00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:15,800
It's the time to make card, collectible card games,

726
00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:17,840
tradable card games, that type of thing.

727
00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:18,680
Yeah.

728
00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:23,680
There is no actual Capcom versus SNK card fighting cards.

729
00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:24,560
Yeah.

730
00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:26,120
And I couldn't find anything on it either.

731
00:28:26,120 --> 00:28:26,960
Right?

732
00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:29,600
I was hoping to find some, something juicy

733
00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:32,160
to suggest that maybe they were thinking about it

734
00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:35,360
or something, but yeah, I couldn't find dick on it.

735
00:28:35,360 --> 00:28:36,560
There just aren't any.

736
00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:37,400
Yeah.

737
00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:39,320
And there's not very much information on it.

738
00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:43,960
They, there's, there are positive reviews on the old ones,

739
00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:46,120
it seemed like, from what I'd seen, people enjoyed it,

740
00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:48,920
but they came out on the Neo Geo Pocket.

741
00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:49,760
Yeah.

742
00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:51,800
Which is not a very common,

743
00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:54,760
as a person that loves handhelds.

744
00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:57,520
You know, you look through and you keep looking

745
00:28:57,520 --> 00:29:00,840
at all these different handhelds that you've missed out on,

746
00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:01,960
things like that.

747
00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:05,760
The Neo Geo Pocket and the WonderSwan are barely,

748
00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:07,400
the two of them that I'm just like,

749
00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:09,400
oh, I would love to have those

750
00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:12,400
and play it on the actual hardware.

751
00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:16,000
Cause they do have a remake that's a collection

752
00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:18,040
of the first and second game,

753
00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:20,320
which were both for the Neo Geo Pocket,

754
00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:21,920
and that's on the Switch.

755
00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:22,760
Okay.

756
00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:25,560
So when doing research and the review,

757
00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:29,000
anything you're trying to find, people are covering that.

758
00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:31,640
No one is covering the DS game.

759
00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:34,360
Barely anyone is talking about the other two games.

760
00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:39,000
And there had to be some kind of a demand

761
00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:43,760
or interest in it for it to merit three games.

762
00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:44,600
Yeah.

763
00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:46,680
And the third game comes out, fucking.

764
00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:49,520
2007.

765
00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:50,840
2007, so.

766
00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:52,920
In the U.S. the year before in Japan.

767
00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:55,640
Like eight years after the original.

768
00:29:56,800 --> 00:29:57,640
Yeah.

769
00:29:57,640 --> 00:29:58,480
So probably six years after that.

770
00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:01,080
You know, there's a, it seems like there was a hiatus.

771
00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:03,640
Well, the second one came out in 2000,

772
00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:05,080
a year after the first.

773
00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:05,920
Right.

774
00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:10,560
Yeah, I don't know.

775
00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:15,480
I had also read that the first two were well received,

776
00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:18,080
you know, and I couldn't find a lot for reviews

777
00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:21,080
on this third title that we played.

778
00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:24,880
But what I did find, it was really mixed.

779
00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:28,200
It was mostly like negative or below negative.

780
00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:29,160
Yes.

781
00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:31,040
Like sub 50s for sure.

782
00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:34,160
So we had this thing that we were doing

783
00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:37,120
where we like call out reviewers

784
00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:38,680
and like that we disagree with.

785
00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:39,520
Yeah.

786
00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:43,040
So I ran across one this week.

787
00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:43,880
Okay.

788
00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:46,880
That's like near and dear to my heart.

789
00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:47,720
Whoa.

790
00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:49,840
It's from X play.

791
00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:52,280
You remember watching X play?

792
00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:56,520
It was, it had Morgan Webb and Adam Sessler.

793
00:30:56,520 --> 00:30:57,800
They reviewed games.

794
00:30:57,800 --> 00:30:59,400
They showed game previews.

795
00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:00,240
Oh shit.

796
00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:03,840
It started out on like tech TV as extended play.

797
00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:05,200
And I watched it back then,

798
00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:08,320
back before it had like the cast that ended up having,

799
00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:10,200
I mean, Adam Sessler was pretty much always in it,

800
00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:12,720
but I think there was a different chick back then.

801
00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:16,360
And it was just this great nerdy deal.

802
00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:21,360
He has an amazing review on Bioshock Infinite.

803
00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:23,120
Oh.

804
00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:24,960
That's what really sold me on buying it.

805
00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:26,920
And that's what got me into Bioshock.

806
00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:27,760
Okay.

807
00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:29,920
So like, I love me some Adam Sessler.

808
00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:32,160
I have a high, I highly respect his reviews.

809
00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:33,000
Okay.

810
00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:35,480
And he shits on this game.

811
00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:36,320
Really?

812
00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:38,440
And I think to the point of where if you watch this review,

813
00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:40,760
I think you would absolutely agree with it.

814
00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:42,360
I agree with it.

815
00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:44,480
I'm sure at the time too,

816
00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:46,280
we have such a funny thing that we're doing

817
00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:48,440
where you're looking back on games.

818
00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:53,440
Card fighting games at that time were not that big at all.

819
00:31:53,500 --> 00:31:54,340
No.

820
00:31:54,340 --> 00:31:57,120
Like Magic the Gathering was what it was.

821
00:31:57,120 --> 00:31:59,400
And it was a stinky game.

822
00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:01,360
You know, like it was a butt crack,

823
00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:04,280
stinky neck beard game.

824
00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:05,340
There wasn't Hearthstone.

825
00:32:05,340 --> 00:32:08,780
It was not common to have these types of games

826
00:32:08,780 --> 00:32:10,640
in the time that this came out.

827
00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:11,760
Yeah, that's fair.

828
00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:16,040
But now you definitely see the demand for it.

829
00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:18,640
And I quite liked the strategy to this game.

830
00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:22,200
So I think it was, I don't agree with the review,

831
00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:23,320
but I think you would.

832
00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:26,480
I don't want to call that guy out.

833
00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:28,560
I'm a mixed bag on this game.

834
00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:29,560
I got to be honest with you.

835
00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:34,560
Cause I definitely, man, I got to say like 80%,

836
00:32:34,620 --> 00:32:36,440
I did not enjoy this game.

837
00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:37,480
That's fair.

838
00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:42,480
The 20% though, which was literally like the last few days.

839
00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:45,400
And I like, I played quite a bit earlier today as well.

840
00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:49,600
Cause I really wanted to give this game a shot.

841
00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:51,400
And you know, and so I sweated it.

842
00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:53,640
Instead of being focused on,

843
00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:56,000
I've got to make as much progress as I can, right?

844
00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:56,840
I'm like, you know what?

845
00:32:56,840 --> 00:32:57,840
We're just gonna slow it down.

846
00:32:57,840 --> 00:32:59,400
We're just gonna play the game.

847
00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:01,800
We're gonna try to do our best in every fight.

848
00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:04,440
Cause that's one of my chief complaints is that

849
00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:06,880
the fights take a while.

850
00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:08,920
They can take a while.

851
00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:11,240
It's like probably, yeah, I agree with you.

852
00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:14,360
It's probably like a 15 minute,

853
00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:18,680
potentially a 15 minute dedication of your time.

854
00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:20,480
Because you have to pay attention to.

855
00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:22,640
If you're not paying attention, you end your turn.

856
00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:25,100
And then you realize, oh my fuck,

857
00:33:25,100 --> 00:33:26,720
their whole team was blocked out

858
00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:29,520
and I could have just gotten like four good hits on the guy.

859
00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:31,840
And I just wasn't paying attention.

860
00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:32,680
I wish, yeah.

861
00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:33,560
Cause you're trying to hurry up.

862
00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:35,320
Cause just to end your turn,

863
00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:39,040
it's like three button confirmations, you know, whatever.

864
00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:41,160
There's a lot of menu navigating.

865
00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:42,000
And it's.

866
00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:44,640
And the menu navigation is not great.

867
00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:49,160
It's definitely not user friendly at all.

868
00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:50,100
Like, and for the most part,

869
00:33:50,100 --> 00:33:52,800
I didn't realize like how much of it I could interact with.

870
00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:53,640
Yeah.

871
00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:55,400
Not only that,

872
00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:58,680
but there's no tool tips for like all of this stuff.

873
00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:01,640
So you're like, if you highlight a card and you select it,

874
00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:05,140
you get a selection of four or five options usually.

875
00:34:05,140 --> 00:34:05,980
Usually.

876
00:34:05,980 --> 00:34:06,800
Yeah.

877
00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:08,360
Depending on the type of card.

878
00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:11,280
You know, so if you have a card in your hand,

879
00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:12,480
that's not in the deck,

880
00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:15,440
you can obviously play it to the field

881
00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:18,040
or to your deck rather, which is,

882
00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:19,280
God, I'm trying to remember like,

883
00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:20,120
what do they call it?

884
00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:22,440
Like a ring in.

885
00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:23,400
Ring in, yes.

886
00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:24,800
Yeah. Ring in.

887
00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:27,760
This is the, is like, that's the menu option

888
00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:32,400
to play a card into the fucking field.

889
00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:33,960
Like what?

890
00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:35,840
And then if you want to attack with a card,

891
00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:37,920
then it gives you confirmation options

892
00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:41,840
of what kind of attack and you can do your AC attack.

893
00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:43,640
Your AC attack is just your regular attack.

894
00:34:43,640 --> 00:34:44,880
Yeah. It's just an attack.

895
00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:45,720
It's just a straight attack.

896
00:34:45,720 --> 00:34:47,440
Action.

897
00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:48,640
Yeah. I don't know.

898
00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:49,840
And then you have the fusion option,

899
00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:51,880
which is just you partnering with any other card

900
00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:53,160
that you have in play.

901
00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:55,400
And pretty much no matter what you're going to,

902
00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:57,040
you're going to take out the card you attack.

903
00:34:57,040 --> 00:34:58,880
Oh, you'll annihilate the card you attack.

904
00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:00,280
And you're going to hurt the card holder.

905
00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:02,720
I did finally figure out that whichever card

906
00:35:02,720 --> 00:35:06,440
you initiate on your front line, the fusion.

907
00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:08,640
So whichever you go to first and select fusion,

908
00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:12,600
that's the card that gets, cause every attack,

909
00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:15,320
the card that's attacking or cards that are attacking,

910
00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:16,160
they attack.

911
00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:19,480
And then the card that's being attacked returns an attack.

912
00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:22,720
And yeah, if you do a fusion,

913
00:35:22,720 --> 00:35:24,960
the first card that you initiate the fusion attack from

914
00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:27,040
is the one that takes the damage from the other card

915
00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:27,880
during the attack.

916
00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:29,800
I didn't figure that one out.

917
00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:32,320
Yeah. I figured it out because I accidentally sacked

918
00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:34,560
one of my cards that didn't have as much HP

919
00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:36,080
when I did a fusion attack.

920
00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:39,280
And the other guy was like, had like 800 health.

921
00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:43,320
I was like, I'm glad to have figured this out,

922
00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:46,120
but it would have been useful literally 10 seconds ago.

923
00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:50,600
But yeah, the naming on this,

924
00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:52,840
most all of these things are weird as fuck.

925
00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:55,240
And you kind of just have to figure it out trial by error.

926
00:35:55,240 --> 00:35:56,720
I'm like, what is a fusion?

927
00:35:56,720 --> 00:35:57,560
Yeah.

928
00:35:57,560 --> 00:35:59,520
And then it's like, it doesn't tell you like,

929
00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:00,600
select another card.

930
00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:03,080
It's just back to the pointer and you're like,

931
00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:05,200
Oh, and it even does, and if you pick a card,

932
00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:07,040
because it has to be, if you're,

933
00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:08,640
one that you first picked fusion,

934
00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:10,560
like you're going to do a fusion attack.

935
00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:12,800
If it's a yellow card, once you have them use yellow.

936
00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:13,960
Oh yeah.

937
00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:16,440
You have to select another yellow card.

938
00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:18,640
You can't use green to do your fusion attack.

939
00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:20,200
It can only fuse with your same,

940
00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:22,920
the same color as the card you first picked.

941
00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:24,200
Doesn't explain that.

942
00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:26,040
It just tells you pick a different card.

943
00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:27,640
Just pick a different card.

944
00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:30,640
That is one of the shortcomings that I think,

945
00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:32,040
once I got the hang of the game

946
00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:34,120
and like kind of knew what I was doing and I was like,

947
00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:36,680
Oh, well let's go back, back to the deck builder

948
00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:38,880
and let's, let's fuck some shit up.

949
00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:40,040
Like I can actually, like,

950
00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:42,960
I need to make sure that I have enough entry cards to,

951
00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:46,560
you know, that I can summon or play into the field

952
00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:49,560
that don't have any like color requirements, right?

953
00:36:49,560 --> 00:36:54,360
Like that are just whatever the white mana call it, right?

954
00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:56,440
So that way I can start generating colored mana

955
00:36:56,440 --> 00:36:58,080
to be able to do the rest of the shit that I need

956
00:36:58,080 --> 00:37:00,840
for this category of characters.

957
00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:03,800
But then I'm like, Oh, but like green has some dope shit.

958
00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:05,040
Yellow's got some dope shit.

959
00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:07,320
I want a hybrid, which is like a huge thing

960
00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:09,020
in deck building games like this.

961
00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:11,040
Don't hybrid.

962
00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:11,880
Don't hybrid.

963
00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:13,440
Like, what the fuck?

964
00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:14,280
Don't hybrid.

965
00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:15,960
You're gonna fucking sell so hard.

966
00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:18,080
It's so funny because you play against the computer

967
00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:19,400
and they seem to hybrid.

968
00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:20,800
They're hybriding all the fucking time.

969
00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:22,400
And it works out great for them.

970
00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:25,520
So once I figured out that you like discarding cards

971
00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:28,120
will give you a color of mana point

972
00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:30,720
in whatever color that character was.

973
00:37:30,720 --> 00:37:33,320
Once I realized that, I was like,

974
00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:37,240
Oh, and then I would start plopping in some

975
00:37:37,240 --> 00:37:40,640
some of the highest level like red or blue cards that I had.

976
00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:42,560
And then every time they would come up, I would just sack them.

977
00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:47,120
And then I would use those as, cause you can use it like

978
00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:49,520
let's say a given card has like a two white,

979
00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:53,200
three yellow mana requirement.

980
00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:55,160
The white can be anything.

981
00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:56,000
It could be white.

982
00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:58,000
It could be any of the other colors, but the colored

983
00:37:58,000 --> 00:37:59,840
the other colored ones in the requirements

984
00:37:59,840 --> 00:38:01,480
have to be that color.

985
00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:03,560
So I would just use them as like wild cards.

986
00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:04,400
Yeah.

987
00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:07,320
And that works fairly well to keep the mana pool flowing.

988
00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:09,960
But like ultimately like the colored colored ones

989
00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:10,960
are the important ones.

990
00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:15,960
Well, that's reminded of being 85% yellow.

991
00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:17,840
Yeah.

992
00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:20,600
If not more, maybe about 90% yellow and then 10% green.

993
00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:22,400
Cause I didn't have enough yellow to fill it.

994
00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:24,240
If I would have had enough to fill that,

995
00:38:24,240 --> 00:38:26,200
it would have been a full yellow deck.

996
00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:27,880
And then that way you're just,

997
00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:30,480
You're just breaking in what you're using.

998
00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:33,320
You have to have 50 cards in your hand.

999
00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:34,160
Yeah.

1000
00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:36,000
And I don't remember.

1001
00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:38,040
It seemed big at first, but it is not.

1002
00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:40,000
Well, and it depends.

1003
00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:45,000
For a 15 minute like game, I suppose it's just fine.

1004
00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:49,000
Cause you need that many cards to carry you

1005
00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:50,360
through the time.

1006
00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:55,160
But I just felt like I, there were a lot of times

1007
00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:58,440
where like my opening hand would be like all high level

1008
00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:01,120
cards, which is awesome.

1009
00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:04,320
I don't have the resources to be able to even utilize them.

1010
00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:05,520
And I kept running into that a lot.

1011
00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:07,480
And I had to sack my entire firsthand.

1012
00:39:07,480 --> 00:39:09,000
And then I don't have a way to get a whole bunch

1013
00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:09,840
of cards back.

1014
00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:10,680
No.

1015
00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:11,520
You get one at a time.

1016
00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:13,680
You get one at a time if you don't have a special card.

1017
00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:17,440
And then you are screwed because the other person

1018
00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:19,440
has not ditched that many cards.

1019
00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:20,280
Right.

1020
00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:22,360
So they can lay down and cause you could summon

1021
00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:24,440
three, four cards in a single turn.

1022
00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:27,840
As long as you have the mana required to do so.

1023
00:39:27,840 --> 00:39:30,840
And then I had a card that once you played it,

1024
00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:33,520
and it's so funny because I was hesitant on using this card

1025
00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:35,960
for so long because like you said,

1026
00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:39,000
they don't fully explain the power is that great.

1027
00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:41,600
When the even you do finally figure out where it's at.

1028
00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:42,440
Yeah.

1029
00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:45,360
It doesn't always fully explain it because this one is

1030
00:39:45,360 --> 00:39:48,040
when you play it, you pull three cards.

1031
00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:48,880
Yeah.

1032
00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:52,840
But actually you pull three cards every turn now.

1033
00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:53,680
Oh, what?

1034
00:39:53,680 --> 00:39:54,920
Yeah.

1035
00:39:54,920 --> 00:39:55,760
Oh.

1036
00:39:55,760 --> 00:39:56,920
Yeah. Game changer.

1037
00:39:56,920 --> 00:39:58,480
That's the way different.

1038
00:39:58,480 --> 00:39:59,320
Absolutely.

1039
00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:00,480
I literally, oh my God.

1040
00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:01,880
I would have used that card.

1041
00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:03,200
I remember a move where I was putting it.

1042
00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:04,040
Yeah.

1043
00:40:04,040 --> 00:40:04,880
I know exactly what I'm talking about.

1044
00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:05,720
What the fuck?

1045
00:40:05,720 --> 00:40:06,960
Yeah. Fucking me, man.

1046
00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:09,560
Cause the card itself is like, it's a weak card.

1047
00:40:09,560 --> 00:40:11,120
She doesn't have a strong attack.

1048
00:40:11,120 --> 00:40:11,960
Right.

1049
00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:13,680
That's why she's there.

1050
00:40:13,680 --> 00:40:15,120
Yeah. That's why.

1051
00:40:15,120 --> 00:40:17,480
And I started playing around with the different,

1052
00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:20,320
yeah, like the different character abilities and stuff.

1053
00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:24,040
Cause for a while I thought I needed to like hold onto them.

1054
00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:26,280
And then I realized, no, that's actually a huge,

1055
00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:29,440
that's where the strategy of the game comes from is,

1056
00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:32,400
is leveraging all the different abilities, you know, making,

1057
00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:36,000
you know, keeping your mana reserves in line with whatever

1058
00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:37,520
you're trying to do.

1059
00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:40,200
You know, you're not burning all of your mana on one turn

1060
00:40:40,200 --> 00:40:41,760
or whatever.

1061
00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:44,120
Cause some of them have healing or restorative properties.

1062
00:40:44,120 --> 00:40:47,720
Oh, did you realize, oh God, what do they call it?

1063
00:40:48,600 --> 00:40:51,160
It's an action that you can use on the cards in your hand

1064
00:40:51,160 --> 00:40:52,640
that are not in play.

1065
00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:54,640
It's like back up.

1066
00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:55,480
Yes.

1067
00:40:55,480 --> 00:40:58,160
Back up a different card with one card.

1068
00:40:58,160 --> 00:41:01,080
And it just, you basically sack that card of a like colored

1069
00:41:01,080 --> 00:41:02,120
card to heal it.

1070
00:41:02,120 --> 00:41:03,080
Yes.

1071
00:41:03,080 --> 00:41:04,560
I figured that out so quickly.

1072
00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:06,240
Oh, fuck you. I didn't figure it out.

1073
00:41:06,240 --> 00:41:07,080
I think that-

1074
00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:07,900
Until literally this morning.

1075
00:41:07,900 --> 00:41:09,920
I think you and I have a different complaint,

1076
00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:12,640
probably when it comes to games in general,

1077
00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:14,400
about tutorials.

1078
00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:17,120
I can't stand a tutorial.

1079
00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:18,320
I want to play the game.

1080
00:41:18,320 --> 00:41:20,320
I just want to play the game. I want to figure it out.

1081
00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:21,920
I'm a very hands-on learner.

1082
00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:22,760
Yeah.

1083
00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:25,040
I hate hand holding.

1084
00:41:25,040 --> 00:41:28,040
I just, one thing that I really enjoyed Magic the Gathering

1085
00:41:28,040 --> 00:41:29,720
like on the phone, you know,

1086
00:41:29,720 --> 00:41:32,440
like I was really getting into it, but it just keeps,

1087
00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:35,280
the hand holding just keeps going and going and going.

1088
00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:38,520
I understand too, why a game like Magic the Gathering

1089
00:41:38,520 --> 00:41:40,640
or a game like this one could even benefit

1090
00:41:40,640 --> 00:41:42,760
from having such a long tutorial

1091
00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:44,720
because there is so much to it,

1092
00:41:44,720 --> 00:41:47,240
but I am not going to learn that way.

1093
00:41:47,240 --> 00:41:50,080
I'm going to learn by getting my ass kicked over and over

1094
00:41:50,080 --> 00:41:51,940
finally piecing it together.

1095
00:41:51,940 --> 00:41:53,960
And I think that because of this is a game

1096
00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:56,600
I will probably go back to again and again.

1097
00:41:56,600 --> 00:41:57,440
Really?

1098
00:41:57,440 --> 00:41:58,480
Because it's a great,

1099
00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:01,000
even though it takes like 15 minutes to play,

1100
00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:03,320
it's a good little time burner.

1101
00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:07,960
It's a good pick up and play game for this mobile, you know,

1102
00:42:07,960 --> 00:42:09,200
on the go.

1103
00:42:09,200 --> 00:42:11,560
If I wrote a bus somewhere, this would be perfect for that.

1104
00:42:11,560 --> 00:42:12,400
Oh yeah.

1105
00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:13,640
Yeah. That's for sure.

1106
00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:19,040
Yeah. I, and again, like literally the last couple of days

1107
00:42:19,040 --> 00:42:22,320
of playing, just really trying to get in there

1108
00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:24,560
and just really figure it out.

1109
00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:27,360
I began to appreciate it a lot better and you know,

1110
00:42:27,360 --> 00:42:30,280
explore the weirdly translated menu buttons

1111
00:42:30,280 --> 00:42:32,320
I don't understand and just fucking around

1112
00:42:32,320 --> 00:42:33,680
and seeing what everything does

1113
00:42:33,680 --> 00:42:36,400
and not being afraid to get my ass pounded

1114
00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:40,240
by some cheeky princess because I'm just trying to figure out

1115
00:42:40,240 --> 00:42:41,480
what everything does.

1116
00:42:41,480 --> 00:42:44,120
Well, the menu, it is so in depth.

1117
00:42:44,120 --> 00:42:46,960
I did the same thing where I didn't really get a chance

1118
00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:50,080
or didn't care to look into the menu

1119
00:42:50,080 --> 00:42:52,720
until near the end of this play session.

1120
00:42:52,720 --> 00:42:55,280
And it was like, wow, it just keeps going.

1121
00:42:55,280 --> 00:42:56,760
Like you click. Yeah.

1122
00:42:56,760 --> 00:42:58,840
And then there's a full list of five more things

1123
00:42:58,840 --> 00:42:59,680
you can click on.

1124
00:42:59,680 --> 00:43:01,480
And that's the full, each one is a folder

1125
00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:03,240
and there's gonna be five more things you can click on.

1126
00:43:03,240 --> 00:43:05,680
There's a lot to find out about the game itself

1127
00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:08,520
and the decks and the cards

1128
00:43:08,520 --> 00:43:11,000
and the card viewing is pretty cool.

1129
00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:12,520
Card viewing is pretty cool.

1130
00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:14,080
I didn't know a ton of these characters.

1131
00:43:14,080 --> 00:43:16,960
I was surprised by how many I did know.

1132
00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:20,480
I think I recognized like two or three.

1133
00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:21,680
Cause once I got to the,

1134
00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:23,760
when you get the choice of what side you're gonna,

1135
00:43:23,760 --> 00:43:25,480
because it's a tower that you're gonna go up

1136
00:43:25,480 --> 00:43:27,440
and battle people on each side.

1137
00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:30,560
And after I think like three floors,

1138
00:43:30,560 --> 00:43:33,000
you get to choose which sides you're gonna go on

1139
00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:34,400
if you wanna stay on the side that you're on

1140
00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:36,480
or if you wanna go on the other side.

1141
00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:41,480
Each side is dedicated to which SNK or Capcom.

1142
00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:43,760
And you're gonna be battling against

1143
00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:46,200
only pretty much those characters I believe.

1144
00:43:46,200 --> 00:43:48,560
I don't, I think, I don't know if it's mainly them

1145
00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:51,120
and they throw in some SNK or vice versa.

1146
00:43:52,600 --> 00:43:55,000
But once I hopped on the Capcom side,

1147
00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:57,840
I was like, oh yeah, I know a lot of these.

1148
00:43:57,840 --> 00:43:59,240
SNK, not so much.

1149
00:43:59,240 --> 00:44:03,240
SNK is a large fighting game brand.

1150
00:44:03,240 --> 00:44:07,760
Yeah, and there was one SNK, they brought one,

1151
00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:09,520
there was an IP that they introduced

1152
00:44:09,520 --> 00:44:13,060
to the card fighting series in this game.

1153
00:44:13,060 --> 00:44:18,060
And I think it was Dante or maybe there's a collection

1154
00:44:18,120 --> 00:44:21,360
of characters from the Devil May Cry series.

1155
00:44:21,360 --> 00:44:23,400
I thought that was Capcom.

1156
00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:24,540
Shit, it might be.

1157
00:44:26,240 --> 00:44:27,680
Maybe I'm thinking, yeah.

1158
00:44:27,680 --> 00:44:30,280
Well, and I did also do the Capcom side of the elevator too.

1159
00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:32,600
So that's probably accurate.

1160
00:44:32,600 --> 00:44:35,240
Damn it, I was so sure that it was SNK

1161
00:44:35,240 --> 00:44:37,120
and I was like, oh wow, something from SNK

1162
00:44:37,120 --> 00:44:39,640
that I didn't know that I knew and that's cool, but.

1163
00:44:39,640 --> 00:44:41,720
Metal Slug is SNK.

1164
00:44:41,720 --> 00:44:43,280
See, I know Metal Slug.

1165
00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:44,840
I did read that, I couldn't tell you

1166
00:44:44,840 --> 00:44:46,000
a single character from Metal Slug.

1167
00:44:46,000 --> 00:44:49,920
The guy that had the, his shorts, his boxers,

1168
00:44:49,920 --> 00:44:51,320
he's waving. Oh, the counter card?

1169
00:44:51,320 --> 00:44:54,000
Yeah, he's from Metal Slug, yeah.

1170
00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:55,800
Oh shit, that's funny.

1171
00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:59,320
I did not notice, I mean, I noticed that card obviously.

1172
00:44:59,320 --> 00:45:00,160
Right.

1173
00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:01,400
But I didn't, yeah.

1174
00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:05,240
If you keep going to the side, to the right,

1175
00:45:05,240 --> 00:45:06,480
I think it is, when you're looking

1176
00:45:06,480 --> 00:45:08,280
at the descriptions of the cards,

1177
00:45:08,280 --> 00:45:10,040
it does give you a little bio

1178
00:45:10,040 --> 00:45:12,240
and they usually tell you what series they're from

1179
00:45:12,240 --> 00:45:14,560
or they make a reference to the series.

1180
00:45:14,560 --> 00:45:16,280
That's right, I did know that.

1181
00:45:16,280 --> 00:45:18,800
I usually skipped it because I was more interested

1182
00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:21,440
in what they do or what they don't do.

1183
00:45:22,480 --> 00:45:26,200
But I did read some of the bios, they were pretty cool.

1184
00:45:27,340 --> 00:45:28,240
Short and sweet.

1185
00:45:29,120 --> 00:45:30,520
Yeah, short and sweet.

1186
00:45:30,520 --> 00:45:33,440
Suck to have to flip back and forth constantly

1187
00:45:33,440 --> 00:45:36,720
on the card to be able to see what your damage

1188
00:45:36,720 --> 00:45:37,760
and your health was.

1189
00:45:37,760 --> 00:45:40,760
And then also the rest of the requirements

1190
00:45:40,760 --> 00:45:42,080
to actually utilize the card

1191
00:45:42,080 --> 00:45:44,280
and then what the abilities are.

1192
00:45:44,280 --> 00:45:47,800
So that's I think my chief complaint

1193
00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:51,280
and that's why I was ragging on the card interface

1194
00:45:51,280 --> 00:45:54,400
and talking up magic cards and shit like that.

1195
00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:55,240
That's fair.

1196
00:45:57,080 --> 00:46:00,960
Because having played, I've got like a commander deck deal

1197
00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:03,680
that I keep me in to play with Morgan

1198
00:46:03,680 --> 00:46:05,280
in like late night game thing.

1199
00:46:05,280 --> 00:46:06,120
You know.

1200
00:46:07,680 --> 00:46:09,200
It is not easy.

1201
00:46:09,200 --> 00:46:11,680
It's not like, it's not easy to pick up and play

1202
00:46:11,680 --> 00:46:14,120
like it was back in 2004.

1203
00:46:14,120 --> 00:46:15,120
Oh shit.

1204
00:46:15,120 --> 00:46:19,520
You know, it's, you gotta have a lot of context

1205
00:46:19,520 --> 00:46:20,800
with these ones.

1206
00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:22,840
And maybe that's just the specific type of deck

1207
00:46:22,840 --> 00:46:25,240
that I ended up buying, I don't know.

1208
00:46:25,240 --> 00:46:26,080
Yeah, who knows.

1209
00:46:26,080 --> 00:46:27,800
But that's just my kind of experience with magic

1210
00:46:27,800 --> 00:46:31,520
is it seems about the same amount of approachable

1211
00:46:31,520 --> 00:46:32,720
as this game.

1212
00:46:32,720 --> 00:46:36,160
Yeah, I remember trying to play magic.

1213
00:46:36,160 --> 00:46:38,040
I wanna say back in the day, but it wasn't,

1214
00:46:38,040 --> 00:46:39,600
I mean, it was in this decade.

1215
00:46:40,920 --> 00:46:42,680
Like the only time I ever got into magic

1216
00:46:42,680 --> 00:46:44,040
and even then only kind of,

1217
00:46:45,080 --> 00:46:47,000
just for me it was the rules barrier,

1218
00:46:47,000 --> 00:46:48,840
not being able to remember all the rules

1219
00:46:48,840 --> 00:46:52,320
and who goes when and what, you know, all of that shit.

1220
00:46:52,320 --> 00:46:54,840
Like the actual concept of the cards.

1221
00:46:54,840 --> 00:46:56,400
I'm like, yeah, that part I can remember

1222
00:46:56,400 --> 00:46:57,280
because it's on the cards.

1223
00:46:57,280 --> 00:46:59,760
And as long as I remember these, you know, few points

1224
00:46:59,760 --> 00:47:01,040
then I can navigate the rest,

1225
00:47:01,040 --> 00:47:03,880
but that's the intricacy of all the different,

1226
00:47:03,880 --> 00:47:05,480
you know, tiny rules everywhere.

1227
00:47:05,480 --> 00:47:06,400
I'm like, I don't remember.

1228
00:47:06,400 --> 00:47:07,600
Why is it your turn now?

1229
00:47:07,600 --> 00:47:09,920
Like, I don't fucking, I don't remember.

1230
00:47:09,920 --> 00:47:11,440
See, that's the way I liked,

1231
00:47:11,440 --> 00:47:13,320
Yu-Gi-Oh always seemed to me

1232
00:47:13,320 --> 00:47:16,520
like it was gonna be a really easy card game.

1233
00:47:16,520 --> 00:47:18,360
Man, I love the anime, but I never played the game.

1234
00:47:18,360 --> 00:47:19,200
It is the card game.

1235
00:47:19,200 --> 00:47:21,600
I've played the one on the Switch a little bit.

1236
00:47:21,600 --> 00:47:24,120
And it is similar to the other ones

1237
00:47:24,120 --> 00:47:26,240
where it's like you turn it, you know,

1238
00:47:26,240 --> 00:47:27,560
because it's like defense

1239
00:47:27,560 --> 00:47:28,680
and you can only do so many things.

1240
00:47:28,680 --> 00:47:30,840
Certain cards can do this in this way

1241
00:47:30,840 --> 00:47:33,200
and certain cards can do attacks

1242
00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:34,880
in a different way that it's turned.

1243
00:47:34,880 --> 00:47:36,400
Oh shit. Or something, right?

1244
00:47:36,400 --> 00:47:37,240
I don't know.

1245
00:47:37,240 --> 00:47:38,560
I, that seems complex.

1246
00:47:38,560 --> 00:47:40,360
I remember thinking and looking at it and being like,

1247
00:47:40,360 --> 00:47:41,640
oh, this would be easy to play.

1248
00:47:41,640 --> 00:47:42,560
And it's not.

1249
00:47:44,440 --> 00:47:45,680
That's fair. That's fair.

1250
00:47:46,800 --> 00:47:47,640
I like the anime.

1251
00:47:47,640 --> 00:47:50,440
Most card games are, most card fighting games,

1252
00:47:50,440 --> 00:47:52,600
like these are kind of hard to approach.

1253
00:47:52,600 --> 00:47:54,640
Yeah. Yeah. Like you said, learning curve.

1254
00:47:54,640 --> 00:47:56,360
Yeah. For sure. Learning curve.

1255
00:47:56,360 --> 00:47:59,240
And that's, that's fair.

1256
00:47:59,240 --> 00:48:03,960
I want to give this game more time, but let's be honest.

1257
00:48:03,960 --> 00:48:05,000
You're not going to go back to it.

1258
00:48:05,000 --> 00:48:06,200
I'm not going back to this game.

1259
00:48:06,200 --> 00:48:07,120
I will go back to it.

1260
00:48:07,120 --> 00:48:11,080
I want to, I want to see if there is the soundtrack

1261
00:48:11,080 --> 00:48:13,960
on Spotify or anywhere.

1262
00:48:13,960 --> 00:48:15,600
It was so good.

1263
00:48:15,600 --> 00:48:17,080
It was beef, dude.

1264
00:48:17,080 --> 00:48:19,280
I fucking love that soundtrack.

1265
00:48:19,280 --> 00:48:21,280
Shit. I got some bad news for you.

1266
00:48:22,440 --> 00:48:23,280
You did not like the soundtrack?

1267
00:48:23,280 --> 00:48:24,280
I fucking hated it.

1268
00:48:24,280 --> 00:48:25,360
How did you hate that?

1269
00:48:25,360 --> 00:48:27,800
I wanted to put a pencil through my ear drum.

1270
00:48:27,800 --> 00:48:29,960
At first it was fucking upbeat as shit.

1271
00:48:29,960 --> 00:48:30,800
You're like,

1272
00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:33,520
it's fucking going, right?

1273
00:48:33,520 --> 00:48:36,320
And then when you're in between battles,

1274
00:48:36,320 --> 00:48:40,000
it's just a super chill lobby vibes, persona.

1275
00:48:40,000 --> 00:48:42,760
They gave me a very persona type music vibes.

1276
00:48:42,760 --> 00:48:44,280
I fucking loved it.

1277
00:48:44,280 --> 00:48:45,760
So let me say this.

1278
00:48:45,760 --> 00:48:46,920
Best part of the game.

1279
00:48:47,760 --> 00:48:50,200
I like the aesthetic of the audio.

1280
00:48:50,200 --> 00:48:51,040
Shut up.

1281
00:48:51,040 --> 00:48:52,160
No, I did. Shut up.

1282
00:48:52,160 --> 00:48:53,760
I did. I really did.

1283
00:48:53,760 --> 00:48:54,600
But round about zero.

1284
00:48:54,600 --> 00:48:55,600
There was just zero variance.

1285
00:48:55,600 --> 00:48:56,520
What are you about to say?

1286
00:48:56,520 --> 00:48:57,720
There was just zero variance.

1287
00:48:57,720 --> 00:48:59,200
It was just the same thing on loop.

1288
00:48:59,200 --> 00:49:02,160
It was the same eight second bit on loop

1289
00:49:02,160 --> 00:49:03,160
for each scenario.

1290
00:49:03,160 --> 00:49:04,280
I don't think that's true.

1291
00:49:04,280 --> 00:49:05,120
Oh man.

1292
00:49:05,120 --> 00:49:07,080
I think it changed on levels.

1293
00:49:07,080 --> 00:49:07,920
I think each level changed.

1294
00:49:07,920 --> 00:49:09,320
Oh yeah, on the levels.

1295
00:49:09,320 --> 00:49:10,160
But that's-

1296
00:49:10,160 --> 00:49:12,040
How much time were you spending on the levels, Ed?

1297
00:49:12,040 --> 00:49:13,360
Like 45 minutes to an hour.

1298
00:49:13,360 --> 00:49:14,280
Jesus Christ.

1299
00:49:14,280 --> 00:49:16,440
Okay. I don't think I was taking as long as you were.

1300
00:49:16,440 --> 00:49:18,800
There were like three to four fights per level.

1301
00:49:18,800 --> 00:49:22,000
Also, I would play like a battle,

1302
00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:23,960
put it down and go and do something.

1303
00:49:23,960 --> 00:49:26,440
Eventually go back, pick it up, do another battle.

1304
00:49:26,440 --> 00:49:30,280
See, I'd like sit down and try to clear a floor in a sitting

1305
00:49:30,280 --> 00:49:32,600
and just like, ah, this music.

1306
00:49:32,600 --> 00:49:35,120
I think even then I'd be even more intransigent.

1307
00:49:35,120 --> 00:49:35,960
Like, fuck yeah.

1308
00:49:35,960 --> 00:49:39,120
I want this, if it is just a fucking eight bit loop

1309
00:49:39,120 --> 00:49:41,600
or like a, whatever you said, I don't-

1310
00:49:41,600 --> 00:49:42,440
Ugh.

1311
00:49:44,080 --> 00:49:46,240
I don't fucking care.

1312
00:49:46,240 --> 00:49:47,480
I don't wanna put that shit on loop.

1313
00:49:47,480 --> 00:49:49,160
It's gonna be our intro music.

1314
00:49:49,160 --> 00:49:50,280
Oh God, dude.

1315
00:49:50,280 --> 00:49:51,120
No, thank you.

1316
00:49:51,120 --> 00:49:59,120
I, I know I couldn't handle it.

1317
00:49:59,160 --> 00:50:02,080
Maybe it was because I spent so long with these battles

1318
00:50:02,080 --> 00:50:04,760
or maybe it's because 80% of the time I was playing this game

1319
00:50:04,760 --> 00:50:07,080
I was getting my absolute shit handed to me.

1320
00:50:07,080 --> 00:50:09,160
See, I was kicking ass and taking names.

1321
00:50:09,160 --> 00:50:11,080
I was fucking, I felt like this is a game

1322
00:50:11,080 --> 00:50:12,160
I was actually good at.

1323
00:50:12,160 --> 00:50:15,040
Once I got the feel for it, like the fusion attacks

1324
00:50:15,040 --> 00:50:19,360
and I realized like, oh, I just need to like fill my deck

1325
00:50:19,360 --> 00:50:21,680
and then just sit back and collect mana.

1326
00:50:21,680 --> 00:50:23,440
I wanna battle you.

1327
00:50:23,440 --> 00:50:24,280
Is that an option?

1328
00:50:24,280 --> 00:50:25,120
I bet it is.

1329
00:50:25,120 --> 00:50:26,160
I didn't see that it was.

1330
00:50:26,160 --> 00:50:28,000
Yeah, I'll have to look and see, but-

1331
00:50:28,000 --> 00:50:30,680
I see, and I feel like I would enjoy this game a lot more

1332
00:50:31,720 --> 00:50:33,640
like playing versus somebody.

1333
00:50:33,640 --> 00:50:34,480
Yeah, we'll see.

1334
00:50:34,480 --> 00:50:37,200
We'll see if it has the wifi connectability thing.

1335
00:50:37,200 --> 00:50:38,760
Cause then we can absolutely do that.

1336
00:50:38,760 --> 00:50:39,800
I'd be, I'd be into that.

1337
00:50:39,800 --> 00:50:41,120
I'm gonna beat your ass.

1338
00:50:42,600 --> 00:50:43,440
It's not the first time I've heard that.

1339
00:50:43,440 --> 00:50:45,840
That brings, that brings like a whole nother fun element

1340
00:50:45,840 --> 00:50:47,240
to it that I didn't even think about.

1341
00:50:47,240 --> 00:50:48,080
Yeah.

1342
00:50:48,080 --> 00:50:52,080
We do have the wifi connectivity for the DS.

1343
00:50:52,080 --> 00:50:53,200
Yeah, I always forget about that.

1344
00:50:53,200 --> 00:50:55,120
So if it did have that, not all games did.

1345
00:50:55,120 --> 00:50:57,400
As long as it's client side.

1346
00:50:57,400 --> 00:50:59,760
Cause there's a lot of games that were server side.

1347
00:50:59,760 --> 00:51:02,400
Well, sure, but there's a,

1348
00:51:02,400 --> 00:51:04,880
I feel like most of them also had the local.

1349
00:51:05,840 --> 00:51:07,360
Local would be dope.

1350
00:51:07,360 --> 00:51:09,740
The local ones as well, but it'd also be sick though.

1351
00:51:09,740 --> 00:51:12,000
Back in the day though, to play this online.

1352
00:51:12,000 --> 00:51:14,040
Oh, just fucking playing through building up your deck.

1353
00:51:14,040 --> 00:51:17,800
Yeah, I would fuck with this if it was like online.

1354
00:51:17,800 --> 00:51:18,640
Yeah.

1355
00:51:18,640 --> 00:51:20,440
And like, I didn't get to that point certainly,

1356
00:51:20,440 --> 00:51:23,920
but I had read that this game gets really grindy

1357
00:51:23,920 --> 00:51:25,880
near the like mid point or something.

1358
00:51:25,880 --> 00:51:27,920
I felt like it was already kind of grindy

1359
00:51:27,920 --> 00:51:30,680
as far as getting new cards.

1360
00:51:30,680 --> 00:51:33,080
Yeah, they don't give you a whole lot at a time.

1361
00:51:33,080 --> 00:51:35,640
When you beat a boss, you get new cards from them.

1362
00:51:35,640 --> 00:51:38,120
They just give them, they just give you a deck.

1363
00:51:38,120 --> 00:51:40,920
And that's where you, I don't know if it's a whole deck.

1364
00:51:40,920 --> 00:51:43,280
I don't know the size of it, but.

1365
00:51:43,280 --> 00:51:44,120
Shit.

1366
00:51:44,120 --> 00:51:44,960
Cause I don't know what's in it.

1367
00:51:44,960 --> 00:51:47,480
And that, no, no, sorry, not a whole deck, a whole pack.

1368
00:51:47,480 --> 00:51:49,320
I think there's like what, five or six in a pack?

1369
00:51:49,320 --> 00:51:50,280
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1370
00:51:50,280 --> 00:51:51,520
So they give you a full pack.

1371
00:51:51,520 --> 00:51:52,780
Yeah, okay, okay.

1372
00:51:53,760 --> 00:51:54,600
I was like a deck.

1373
00:51:54,600 --> 00:51:55,440
Yeah, not a deck, no, no.

1374
00:51:55,440 --> 00:51:57,560
I was like, man, maybe like it's cause you're smoking

1375
00:51:57,560 --> 00:51:59,200
these bosses, you're getting decks.

1376
00:51:59,200 --> 00:52:01,720
I'm getting, I'm getting a little,

1377
00:52:01,720 --> 00:52:04,720
I'm getting little, little, little scrum bits, dude.

1378
00:52:04,720 --> 00:52:07,960
I love the, the scissor cut to open the foil package.

1379
00:52:07,960 --> 00:52:08,800
Yeah.

1380
00:52:08,800 --> 00:52:09,620
That was great.

1381
00:52:09,620 --> 00:52:10,460
That was pretty cool.

1382
00:52:10,460 --> 00:52:12,980
They had a lot of sweet little touches in it.

1383
00:52:12,980 --> 00:52:13,820
Yeah.

1384
00:52:13,820 --> 00:52:18,820
And it had a great choice of touchscreen or control.

1385
00:52:19,980 --> 00:52:22,700
I mean, I don't know that it would say great.

1386
00:52:22,700 --> 00:52:23,540
You could do either.

1387
00:52:23,540 --> 00:52:25,580
You could do everything with either or.

1388
00:52:25,580 --> 00:52:28,380
Man, I mean, yeah, you're not wrong.

1389
00:52:28,380 --> 00:52:30,340
And the touch controls, pretty good.

1390
00:52:30,340 --> 00:52:32,700
Touch controls, I didn't really use them

1391
00:52:32,700 --> 00:52:34,100
to be at all, to be honest.

1392
00:52:34,100 --> 00:52:36,580
I don't know how they could have been that bad though.

1393
00:52:36,580 --> 00:52:37,420
Either, you know.

1394
00:52:37,420 --> 00:52:39,900
That probably would have been the move

1395
00:52:39,900 --> 00:52:40,740
now that I'm thinking about it.

1396
00:52:40,740 --> 00:52:44,540
Cause I, I did watch some like later game gameplay

1397
00:52:45,420 --> 00:52:50,420
and I don't know by what method this guy was playing.

1398
00:52:50,460 --> 00:52:53,060
Emulator or what, right?

1399
00:52:53,060 --> 00:52:55,460
I assume so in order to get a screen recording.

1400
00:52:55,460 --> 00:52:57,180
You can also do a screen recording

1401
00:52:57,180 --> 00:52:59,660
through a 2DS, I believe.

1402
00:52:59,660 --> 00:53:00,500
Ooh, really?

1403
00:53:00,500 --> 00:53:03,020
So you could do it that way, but most likely emulation.

1404
00:53:03,020 --> 00:53:03,860
Yeah.

1405
00:53:03,860 --> 00:53:04,680
Yeah.

1406
00:53:04,680 --> 00:53:07,320
I mean, regardless, it looked like he was using

1407
00:53:07,320 --> 00:53:09,100
some touch controls and I don't know

1408
00:53:09,100 --> 00:53:10,900
if that was through a mouse or if he was emulating

1409
00:53:10,900 --> 00:53:11,740
it through a pad.

1410
00:53:11,740 --> 00:53:15,060
I have no idea, but it looked like he would like

1411
00:53:15,060 --> 00:53:16,700
tap and drag cards at times.

1412
00:53:16,700 --> 00:53:18,660
Cause you couldn't see where the,

1413
00:53:18,660 --> 00:53:21,980
whatever pointer was in the video, but.

1414
00:53:21,980 --> 00:53:23,220
Yeah, that's how I did a lot of tap and drag.

1415
00:53:23,220 --> 00:53:25,820
It looked so much more efficient in terms of like

1416
00:53:25,820 --> 00:53:28,260
just making moves cause you don't have to like move

1417
00:53:28,260 --> 00:53:30,740
the highlight over the card that you want.

1418
00:53:30,740 --> 00:53:32,140
You just tap on it.

1419
00:53:32,140 --> 00:53:34,620
So yeah, maybe that would have been the play.

1420
00:53:34,620 --> 00:53:38,780
I will agree with, this is not a perfect game,

1421
00:53:38,780 --> 00:53:43,780
but then the pacing on things like menu controls

1422
00:53:43,780 --> 00:53:46,420
and like you were saying, how like many times

1423
00:53:46,420 --> 00:53:48,740
you have to click through to end your turn,

1424
00:53:48,740 --> 00:53:50,500
things like that.

1425
00:53:50,500 --> 00:53:55,380
Definitely see why this was kind of the end of the line,

1426
00:53:55,380 --> 00:53:57,860
especially along the time when it came out.

1427
00:53:57,860 --> 00:54:00,860
There was no demand for this at all.

1428
00:54:00,860 --> 00:54:05,020
No, I could see them doing something much, much newer

1429
00:54:05,020 --> 00:54:09,460
on like current gen and see it doing well.

1430
00:54:09,460 --> 00:54:13,100
If it's held to today's standards for this type of title.

1431
00:54:13,100 --> 00:54:15,620
You know, I, like I said, the game's there

1432
00:54:15,620 --> 00:54:20,060
and it's not a bad, like gameplay wise, it's not a bad game.

1433
00:54:20,060 --> 00:54:21,300
I don't think at all.

1434
00:54:21,300 --> 00:54:24,140
It just was missing all the rest.

1435
00:54:24,140 --> 00:54:26,620
Do you have any familiar, like familiar,

1436
00:54:27,500 --> 00:54:32,020
are you familiar with Capcom versus SNK

1437
00:54:32,020 --> 00:54:34,500
or any of those fighting games?

1438
00:54:34,500 --> 00:54:35,820
No, not really, no.

1439
00:54:35,820 --> 00:54:38,900
They have the most beautiful graphics.

1440
00:54:38,900 --> 00:54:39,820
Like the new ones?

1441
00:54:39,820 --> 00:54:42,820
No, I mean, even, I mean, every single one

1442
00:54:42,820 --> 00:54:45,580
that I have seen, I don't know about the Dreamcast one,

1443
00:54:45,580 --> 00:54:48,060
I guess, I don't know if there is a 3D one,

1444
00:54:48,060 --> 00:54:52,060
but it's all 2D sprite work, Capcom versus Marvel,

1445
00:54:52,060 --> 00:54:54,900
Capcom versus X-Men, all these games have just this

1446
00:54:54,900 --> 00:54:58,820
fucking gorgeous artwork to it.

1447
00:54:58,820 --> 00:55:03,260
And while I did, I don't think I cared for the art

1448
00:55:03,260 --> 00:55:05,180
in this game at all.

1449
00:55:05,180 --> 00:55:08,620
I mean, there wasn't really much to speak of.

1450
00:55:08,620 --> 00:55:11,980
You just had like character designs on cards.

1451
00:55:11,980 --> 00:55:13,180
But they were kind of,

1452
00:55:14,540 --> 00:55:16,860
There was like zero animation in this game,

1453
00:55:16,860 --> 00:55:17,700
let's be honest.

1454
00:55:17,700 --> 00:55:21,900
There was zero animation and there was like,

1455
00:55:22,940 --> 00:55:26,180
it was like a really bad pixelation.

1456
00:55:26,180 --> 00:55:28,340
I don't know, I felt like I'd seen other games

1457
00:55:28,340 --> 00:55:30,140
look much better.

1458
00:55:30,140 --> 00:55:33,340
Why it felt like they really didn't try hard

1459
00:55:33,340 --> 00:55:36,540
on the art for the cards.

1460
00:55:36,540 --> 00:55:39,300
No, it felt very cookie cutter.

1461
00:55:39,300 --> 00:55:42,420
I enjoyed the, like the, some of them were fun,

1462
00:55:42,420 --> 00:55:45,900
but some of them were just like, yeah, cookie cutter.

1463
00:55:45,900 --> 00:55:49,620
And it looked almost like a bad hand drawing.

1464
00:55:50,700 --> 00:55:53,220
Yeah, some were definitely better than others,

1465
00:55:53,220 --> 00:55:56,020
but overall, no, I have to agree with you.

1466
00:55:56,020 --> 00:56:01,020
I was kind of bummed with how little sustenance

1467
00:56:01,420 --> 00:56:04,180
there was in the visual representation.

1468
00:56:04,180 --> 00:56:06,580
Because for me, in terms of card games,

1469
00:56:06,580 --> 00:56:08,980
that's where it's at is like the artwork, right?

1470
00:56:08,980 --> 00:56:09,820
Yes.

1471
00:56:09,820 --> 00:56:14,060
Sometimes you get these like animated modifications

1472
00:56:14,060 --> 00:56:15,860
that happen to cards.

1473
00:56:15,860 --> 00:56:19,820
Oh God, what, there's a new one out on the mobile game

1474
00:56:19,820 --> 00:56:21,680
snapped, I think.

1475
00:56:21,680 --> 00:56:25,200
I think it's, it might be Marvel snapped.

1476
00:56:26,360 --> 00:56:30,080
Super, super bare bones, super simple card based

1477
00:56:30,080 --> 00:56:31,800
or card fighting game.

1478
00:56:31,800 --> 00:56:32,960
And it's super quick.

1479
00:56:32,960 --> 00:56:34,680
It's really, really easy to pick up.

1480
00:56:34,680 --> 00:56:36,240
The mechanics are super simple,

1481
00:56:36,240 --> 00:56:39,400
but they are deep and they cover and the gameplay

1482
00:56:39,400 --> 00:56:40,240
it's really great.

1483
00:56:40,240 --> 00:56:41,060
Okay.

1484
00:56:41,060 --> 00:56:42,480
Like it's just a super quick and dirty one.

1485
00:56:42,480 --> 00:56:45,600
And like you'll play around in maybe a minute.

1486
00:56:45,600 --> 00:56:48,220
So it's, yeah, it's pretty quick.

1487
00:56:48,220 --> 00:56:52,880
It's done really well, but as you level up cards

1488
00:56:52,880 --> 00:56:56,600
and stuff like that, they'll get like hollow effects

1489
00:56:56,600 --> 00:56:58,880
or alternate color appearances.

1490
00:56:58,880 --> 00:56:59,720
Oh, that's cool.

1491
00:56:59,720 --> 00:57:01,000
Or then they'll have a 3D.

1492
00:57:01,000 --> 00:57:03,480
And so like every time something happens with this card,

1493
00:57:03,480 --> 00:57:06,600
it'll flash big on screen and give you like a little

1494
00:57:06,600 --> 00:57:07,440
you get a look at it.

1495
00:57:07,440 --> 00:57:09,400
Yeah, just give you something to look at

1496
00:57:09,400 --> 00:57:12,000
and be like, yeah, that's your card.

1497
00:57:12,000 --> 00:57:13,960
That's this guy fucking shit up, you know?

1498
00:57:13,960 --> 00:57:17,560
You don't need the lightning bolt attack thing

1499
00:57:17,560 --> 00:57:19,000
that they have in this game.

1500
00:57:19,000 --> 00:57:20,760
The attack animations were horrible.

1501
00:57:20,760 --> 00:57:21,600
They were horrible.

1502
00:57:21,600 --> 00:57:23,440
They were unnecessary.

1503
00:57:23,440 --> 00:57:25,200
You know, because like you said, yeah,

1504
00:57:25,200 --> 00:57:28,440
I care more about the art on the card.

1505
00:57:28,440 --> 00:57:29,280
Yeah.

1506
00:57:29,280 --> 00:57:31,320
And I'm sure this, the DS had its limitations,

1507
00:57:31,320 --> 00:57:35,720
but I refuse to believe that that is the limitation.

1508
00:57:35,720 --> 00:57:39,480
You've got 64 bits, just do sprite work and-

1509
00:57:39,480 --> 00:57:40,320
Anything.

1510
00:57:40,320 --> 00:57:43,040
They could have done something that they just didn't.

1511
00:57:43,040 --> 00:57:45,880
Even Hearthstone doesn't really do shit.

1512
00:57:45,880 --> 00:57:47,200
You know, you put your cards down

1513
00:57:47,200 --> 00:57:50,120
and then they like lift up and smack into each other.

1514
00:57:50,120 --> 00:57:50,960
Yeah.

1515
00:57:50,960 --> 00:57:51,780
And then that's it.

1516
00:57:51,780 --> 00:57:55,280
But then the simplicity also and the speed of which you like,

1517
00:57:55,280 --> 00:57:56,960
oh, the action's taking place.

1518
00:57:56,960 --> 00:57:57,960
Here's the result.

1519
00:57:57,960 --> 00:57:59,720
It's quick and dirty.

1520
00:57:59,720 --> 00:58:02,320
This game, it's like all the cards lift into the air

1521
00:58:02,320 --> 00:58:03,160
and then they-

1522
00:58:03,160 --> 00:58:05,560
They each take their turn doing their shaky thing.

1523
00:58:05,560 --> 00:58:06,960
Oh, this one's shaking.

1524
00:58:06,960 --> 00:58:10,360
Cause it took some damage and all this guy's turn.

1525
00:58:10,360 --> 00:58:13,280
I lost 300 KO.

1526
00:58:13,280 --> 00:58:14,480
Yeah.

1527
00:58:14,480 --> 00:58:18,280
You lost 300 KO.

1528
00:58:18,280 --> 00:58:19,120
We were like, I know,

1529
00:58:19,120 --> 00:58:20,440
both these cards annihilated each other.

1530
00:58:20,440 --> 00:58:21,280
Let's fucking know.

1531
00:58:21,280 --> 00:58:22,120
I did the math already before-

1532
00:58:22,120 --> 00:58:24,160
I looked at every single one

1533
00:58:24,160 --> 00:58:26,680
before I chose my attack pattern and my defense pattern.

1534
00:58:26,680 --> 00:58:28,160
Yeah.

1535
00:58:28,160 --> 00:58:29,000
Yeah. No.

1536
00:58:30,480 --> 00:58:31,360
Yeah. All right.

1537
00:58:31,360 --> 00:58:32,600
I can see where you're coming from,

1538
00:58:32,600 --> 00:58:35,000
where you say you really wanted to like this game.

1539
00:58:35,000 --> 00:58:36,760
You really want to get into it.

1540
00:58:36,760 --> 00:58:38,300
Again, we talk about pacing.

1541
00:58:38,300 --> 00:58:43,300
So I'm already going a slower pace cause I'm, you know,

1542
00:58:43,300 --> 00:58:45,860
you know, both of us, I'm sure,

1543
00:58:45,860 --> 00:58:46,900
especially at the beginning,

1544
00:58:46,900 --> 00:58:48,420
we're reading all of the cards,

1545
00:58:48,420 --> 00:58:50,940
trying to try to, you know, formulate strategies.

1546
00:58:50,940 --> 00:58:51,780
What do these cards do?

1547
00:58:51,780 --> 00:58:53,300
How do they play together?

1548
00:58:53,300 --> 00:58:54,700
What am I trying to even do here?

1549
00:58:54,700 --> 00:58:57,500
What is this guy's cards doing?

1550
00:58:57,500 --> 00:58:59,820
And then, so I'm already taking it a slower pace.

1551
00:58:59,820 --> 00:59:01,620
And then when I finally figure out what I want to do

1552
00:59:01,620 --> 00:59:03,940
and I'm trying to run with it and the game's like,

1553
00:59:03,940 --> 00:59:06,380
cool, we're going to attack.

1554
00:59:06,380 --> 00:59:07,580
Grab these cards.

1555
00:59:07,580 --> 00:59:11,020
I'm like, I could play the physical game faster than this.

1556
00:59:11,020 --> 00:59:12,900
No, you can't because there is no physical game.

1557
00:59:12,900 --> 00:59:14,220
There's no physical game.

1558
00:59:15,340 --> 00:59:16,340
So that's cool.

1559
00:59:16,340 --> 00:59:19,200
Thanks guys, fuckers.

1560
00:59:20,140 --> 00:59:21,540
I think that we bet.

1561
00:59:21,540 --> 00:59:24,100
I don't think there's anything else to cover on that.

1562
00:59:24,100 --> 00:59:26,180
That was pretty in depth.

1563
00:59:26,180 --> 00:59:27,140
That's pretty in depth.

1564
00:59:27,140 --> 00:59:30,220
I think, I think we did it some justice.

1565
00:59:30,220 --> 00:59:32,740
I wanted to love this game so much more

1566
00:59:32,740 --> 00:59:37,020
cause like I do have a soft spot for like card battle games

1567
00:59:37,020 --> 00:59:38,460
or whatever the fuck they're called.

1568
00:59:38,460 --> 00:59:39,300
I'm learning.

1569
00:59:39,300 --> 00:59:40,120
I do.

1570
00:59:40,120 --> 00:59:40,960
I'm learning.

1571
00:59:40,960 --> 00:59:43,260
I enjoy them cause I had a really good time with this game.

1572
00:59:43,260 --> 00:59:44,100
Hell yeah.

1573
00:59:44,100 --> 00:59:46,380
Check out again, I think it's Marvel snapped.

1574
00:59:46,380 --> 00:59:47,220
I will.

1575
00:59:47,220 --> 00:59:48,700
That seems too fast to pace for me.

1576
00:59:48,700 --> 00:59:50,100
Honestly, too fast.

1577
00:59:50,100 --> 00:59:51,340
I'm not, I don't know.

1578
00:59:51,340 --> 00:59:52,180
I'll check it out.

1579
00:59:52,180 --> 00:59:53,020
I just saw it.

1580
00:59:53,020 --> 00:59:53,860
Try it out.

1581
00:59:53,860 --> 00:59:56,140
Cause it's a, it's a good entry level and I love it.

1582
00:59:56,140 --> 00:59:59,700
Cause you, you're fighting other actual people and there's a,

1583
00:59:59,700 --> 01:00:03,620
so the reason it's called snapped is because there's five

1584
01:00:03,620 --> 01:00:06,340
rounds, I think in a, in a match.

1585
01:00:06,340 --> 01:00:08,260
And I think you were only ever putting out like,

1586
01:00:08,260 --> 01:00:10,680
there's only three spots on a field that you can put a card

1587
01:00:10,680 --> 01:00:14,160
down in each zone has like its own effect.

1588
01:00:14,160 --> 01:00:17,500
And sometimes the effect that the zone has activates on a

1589
01:00:17,500 --> 01:00:20,820
certain turn or it will change other zones.

1590
01:00:20,820 --> 01:00:22,500
They'll do all kinds of things.

1591
01:00:22,500 --> 01:00:23,740
And then each card, again,

1592
01:00:23,740 --> 01:00:26,580
they have like a power level and like an attack, you know,

1593
01:00:26,580 --> 01:00:27,420
and shit.

1594
01:00:27,420 --> 01:00:28,240
And it's, it's all right there.

1595
01:00:28,240 --> 01:00:30,840
Super quick and dirty, super easy to figure out.

1596
01:00:30,840 --> 01:00:31,820
Moves are timed.

1597
01:00:31,820 --> 01:00:34,420
So you like it's, it's meant to be fast paced.

1598
01:00:34,420 --> 01:00:39,420
But then after like the second like round between you and

1599
01:00:39,980 --> 01:00:40,820
your opponent,

1600
01:00:40,820 --> 01:00:44,340
then you can snap cause you get like whatever the arbitrary

1601
01:00:44,340 --> 01:00:47,900
like prestige points are, you know, after you win.

1602
01:00:47,900 --> 01:00:50,500
And then that, you know, that's your rank basically,

1603
01:00:50,500 --> 01:00:51,700
how good you are.

1604
01:00:51,700 --> 01:00:54,900
But then if you snap and I don't remember how the math works

1605
01:00:54,900 --> 01:00:57,740
out, but it doubles down on your bet on this.

1606
01:00:57,740 --> 01:01:01,220
So now like, instead of maybe breaking, even if you lose,

1607
01:01:01,220 --> 01:01:04,380
you're like, nah, dude, I'm a, I'm a slap your ball sack.

1608
01:01:04,380 --> 01:01:06,180
I'm doubling down on this match.

1609
01:01:06,180 --> 01:01:08,980
And then if your opponent snaps, it like locks in the bet.

1610
01:01:08,980 --> 01:01:10,620
And it, it doubles the risk.

1611
01:01:10,620 --> 01:01:11,860
I don't know. It's, it's crazy,

1612
01:01:11,860 --> 01:01:13,580
but there's like some dope psychology.

1613
01:01:13,580 --> 01:01:15,820
There's like a gambling.

1614
01:01:15,820 --> 01:01:17,620
Yeah. Well, you know, and I actually, there was,

1615
01:01:17,620 --> 01:01:20,380
I think they did a Ted talk about that specific game

1616
01:01:20,380 --> 01:01:23,380
feature because I think they were testing the game before

1617
01:01:23,380 --> 01:01:25,900
release and they were like,

1618
01:01:25,900 --> 01:01:28,800
people aren't having a good time when they're losing.

1619
01:01:28,800 --> 01:01:29,640
And like,

1620
01:01:29,640 --> 01:01:32,540
they did a whole demonstration about like this concept of

1621
01:01:32,540 --> 01:01:36,420
you need to feel good about winning and losing, you know?

1622
01:01:36,420 --> 01:01:37,240
And it, and then,

1623
01:01:37,240 --> 01:01:39,140
so they talk about this feature because something about after

1624
01:01:39,140 --> 01:01:43,300
snapping, you can then forfeit and still come out. Okay.

1625
01:01:43,300 --> 01:01:47,220
Like you'll, you'll retain your points, even if you've lost.

1626
01:01:47,220 --> 01:01:50,220
And so they, like, they changed it from like,

1627
01:01:50,220 --> 01:01:52,660
where you don't have to commit to that.

1628
01:01:52,660 --> 01:01:54,020
Yeah. They just changed. Well, yeah.

1629
01:01:54,020 --> 01:01:55,620
And they changed like some of the,

1630
01:01:56,860 --> 01:02:00,180
like the copy, like the text that comes up on screen,

1631
01:02:00,180 --> 01:02:02,100
like when you leave up, when you escape,

1632
01:02:02,100 --> 01:02:06,140
cause it says something like escaped instead of like

1633
01:02:06,140 --> 01:02:08,740
retreated or something like that. So you're like, yeah,

1634
01:02:08,740 --> 01:02:11,140
I got away. It's like, you ran away.

1635
01:02:11,140 --> 01:02:15,700
Look a little bird. Sure. You want to quit now? Loser. Yeah.

1636
01:02:15,700 --> 01:02:18,700
But no, it does, it does a good game. It does a good game.

1637
01:02:18,700 --> 01:02:20,820
Does a good game. It does a good game.

1638
01:02:23,860 --> 01:02:25,620
I noticed there's,

1639
01:02:25,620 --> 01:02:32,620
I had an ad come up for a app for Pokemon cards where you scan your cards and it

1640
01:02:34,020 --> 01:02:35,340
adds it to your collection.

1641
01:02:36,260 --> 01:02:40,900
And I was thinking that could be a very cool concept for a card fighting game

1642
01:02:40,900 --> 01:02:45,620
too, where you can only battle with the cards you have actually physically

1643
01:02:45,620 --> 01:02:50,460
purchased through the packs, through your like aluminum foil packs.

1644
01:02:50,460 --> 01:02:51,380
Yeah. I was going to say,

1645
01:02:51,380 --> 01:02:53,460
cause I would just pull up like Google image,

1646
01:02:53,460 --> 01:02:56,020
all the cards and then just scan them in off of their, yeah.

1647
01:02:56,060 --> 01:02:58,220
I mean, they have to have some certain way to, yeah,

1648
01:02:58,220 --> 01:03:00,780
they can put barcodes or something on them. Yeah, exactly. Yeah.

1649
01:03:00,780 --> 01:03:04,380
Do a pin or some shit. Yeah. That,

1650
01:03:04,420 --> 01:03:06,300
that is something I could really get into.

1651
01:03:06,340 --> 01:03:10,140
I could see myself losing plenty of money to some cards through that.

1652
01:03:10,140 --> 01:03:13,300
Man, I feel like that was the nineties and the two thousands.

1653
01:03:13,300 --> 01:03:16,220
Like that was the whole thing is like, you could get the game,

1654
01:03:16,220 --> 01:03:21,220
but then it requires you to assemble or amass a collection of all these

1655
01:03:21,220 --> 01:03:25,100
individual parts. Oh yeah. Like the sky riders one that they did.

1656
01:03:27,580 --> 01:03:32,300
Every McDonald's toy featured throughout like the mid to late

1657
01:03:32,300 --> 01:03:35,780
nineties where you had to get them all together to put together. Yeah.

1658
01:03:35,820 --> 01:03:39,500
Dude, like the inspector gadget one, everything was like, yeah,

1659
01:03:40,060 --> 01:03:43,900
they collect them all. That was huge. Yeah. Yeah. You know,

1660
01:03:45,140 --> 01:03:48,260
and I liked the collection aspect because I, you know, I,

1661
01:03:48,260 --> 01:03:53,140
I just remember like, Oh my God, my first rare, my first legendary or whatever.

1662
01:03:53,380 --> 01:03:58,300
And I'm still a dirty slut for roll mechanics. Yeah. Like RNG with loot.

1663
01:03:58,340 --> 01:04:00,860
Holy fuck, man. I mean, I have a RuneScape account.

1664
01:04:00,860 --> 01:04:05,540
If that tells you what you want to know. But yeah,

1665
01:04:05,620 --> 01:04:07,700
I don't know the physical collection aspect.

1666
01:04:08,060 --> 01:04:11,140
I was really into it when I was a kid, but yeah.

1667
01:04:11,780 --> 01:04:16,380
See, and I like the idea of having something to look for. Yeah.

1668
01:04:16,380 --> 01:04:21,060
So when it comes to a collectible of like Nintendo DS or Game Boy colors,

1669
01:04:21,500 --> 01:04:22,740
games, it's you're,

1670
01:04:22,740 --> 01:04:27,740
you're on a trip with your friends or whoever and you see a retro game store or

1671
01:04:27,980 --> 01:04:31,140
you collect old fucking Marlboro.

1672
01:04:31,340 --> 01:04:35,540
You decide you're really into Marlboro vintage Marlboro collection things like

1673
01:04:35,980 --> 01:04:39,700
license plates, ashtrays, playing cards,

1674
01:04:39,980 --> 01:04:43,540
just because that's your thing to now when you're, when you're out shopping,

1675
01:04:43,540 --> 01:04:46,780
like, oh, let's go into this flea market and fucking see what cool finds I can

1676
01:04:46,780 --> 01:04:49,900
get. And then you get into that world a little bit of like,

1677
01:04:50,260 --> 01:04:54,420
all that sign is fucking rare and expensive.

1678
01:04:54,460 --> 01:04:57,940
And then you get that fucking dopamine. Yeah. You know,

1679
01:04:58,300 --> 01:05:01,380
that's only something you just got to dive into head first and you just learn as

1680
01:05:01,380 --> 01:05:04,180
you go. And yeah, I don't know why I'm collecting.

1681
01:05:04,180 --> 01:05:06,380
It's just something I got into. Yeah.

1682
01:05:06,380 --> 01:05:10,740
I used to have a wild pencil sharpener collection. There you go. That's a fun one.

1683
01:05:10,860 --> 01:05:12,820
I don't have any cool collections like that.

1684
01:05:12,820 --> 01:05:15,100
I don't think I have them anymore. I think they're all gone. You know,

1685
01:05:15,100 --> 01:05:17,420
I had a little while where I had,

1686
01:05:17,580 --> 01:05:21,180
I had acquired like three typewriters. I got one.

1687
01:05:21,460 --> 01:05:24,780
I sought out the one and then like two more were given to me.

1688
01:05:24,780 --> 01:05:26,700
And I was like, no more.

1689
01:05:27,420 --> 01:05:31,540
These are not something I want to fucking collect. This is, it's cool.

1690
01:05:31,980 --> 01:05:36,660
But that is a heavy fucking thing. It takes up space. It's like,

1691
01:05:36,980 --> 01:05:40,140
no, I guess now that I have a huge garage, bring on the typewriters,

1692
01:05:40,140 --> 01:05:42,540
but actually please don't. Yeah. Everybody, uh,

1693
01:05:42,540 --> 01:05:45,740
we'll put Fletcher's home address in the description.

1694
01:05:46,620 --> 01:05:50,740
Send him a typewriter. Enjoy the postage on that. Oh Christ.

1695
01:05:51,460 --> 01:05:55,340
Oh God. Yeah. That'd be a, that'd be a hefty, hefty package of shit.

1696
01:05:56,060 --> 01:05:59,300
I don't even want to imagine. Very fucking insane. I don't either.

1697
01:05:59,460 --> 01:06:01,620
Yeah. That'd be crazy. All right.

1698
01:06:01,860 --> 01:06:05,460
Let's go ahead and select our game.

1699
01:06:05,860 --> 01:06:08,860
Do you have the randomizer? Did I ever send you the randomizer?

1700
01:06:08,860 --> 01:06:11,340
I didn't think about that. Didn't you put it on the drive?

1701
01:06:11,340 --> 01:06:14,780
Yeah. Let's find out. Yeah, let's find out. All right.

1702
01:06:14,820 --> 01:06:19,820
So we have failed to make a successful randomizer on a whim.

1703
01:06:20,180 --> 01:06:22,820
I mean, to be fair, the randomizer works.

1704
01:06:22,900 --> 01:06:25,780
The randomizer doesn't work. I just accidentally made a list of 3DS games,

1705
01:06:25,820 --> 01:06:29,540
not DS games. Yeah. So that's my bad.

1706
01:06:29,660 --> 01:06:32,940
We're going to turn to a list here that we've found, I believe.

1707
01:06:34,420 --> 01:06:36,340
Have you seen anything good on it? Um,

1708
01:06:36,420 --> 01:06:39,300
so I just got to the top of the list here. We've got Bob's game.

1709
01:06:39,300 --> 01:06:43,700
I've never heard of it. Bob's game. It sounds,

1710
01:06:44,140 --> 01:06:47,300
sounds quirky and I'm already excited for it. All right.

1711
01:06:47,380 --> 01:06:52,100
We have face training that swears a 3DS game.

1712
01:06:52,860 --> 01:06:56,820
Uh, this is a DSI.

1713
01:06:57,180 --> 01:07:01,660
Oh, DSI. That makes sense. Yeah. Uh,

1714
01:07:01,700 --> 01:07:06,300
electroplankton. I have, I mean, I know of electroplankton.

1715
01:07:06,300 --> 01:07:11,300
I've not heard of it. Run high school girl, uh, Shinrei puzzle academy.

1716
01:07:12,020 --> 01:07:15,180
Ooh. Yeah.

1717
01:07:15,940 --> 01:07:20,140
A lot of these, um, touch DIC.

1718
01:07:23,420 --> 01:07:26,420
Yeah, I am. I am in sixth grade still.

1719
01:07:27,980 --> 01:07:28,820
That's great.

1720
01:07:31,620 --> 01:07:33,860
These must all be homebrew. I think you're on a homebrew.

1721
01:07:33,860 --> 01:07:36,820
No, this one looks like a straight up, uh, well,

1722
01:07:36,820 --> 01:07:39,900
I mean anyone could put that image together. All right. Yeah.

1723
01:07:41,180 --> 01:07:46,180
This looks legit. Like have you ever seen like super Saiyan 17 on Google and

1724
01:07:47,140 --> 01:07:51,580
you're like, it's real. It's totally real. Yeah.

1725
01:07:51,580 --> 01:07:56,460
I don't know. Yeah. Let me look up just a click, click random. Yeah.

1726
01:07:56,460 --> 01:08:00,180
Let me try my hand at Google. Yeah. It's fucking bad at it.

1727
01:08:00,180 --> 01:08:03,180
The one time.

1728
01:08:05,460 --> 01:08:09,860
The one time. This is why I, this is why we do it at my house.

1729
01:08:11,700 --> 01:08:13,900
I mean, I did all the work on that one too.

1730
01:08:15,420 --> 01:08:17,820
I just can't find that same list of DS games.

1731
01:08:17,820 --> 01:08:19,660
It was so perfect when we found the one.

1732
01:08:20,420 --> 01:08:23,380
I gotta upload that shit to the cloud ASAP. Um,

1733
01:08:23,420 --> 01:08:26,300
not so random because I've recently seen it talked about.

1734
01:08:26,340 --> 01:08:29,820
I think they're making it. No, no, it's true.

1735
01:08:29,820 --> 01:08:32,660
I want to do Sonic Chronicles of the dark brotherhood.

1736
01:08:32,700 --> 01:08:36,660
If Bob's game doesn't exist. All right, but I'm super done for it.

1737
01:08:36,660 --> 01:08:41,660
It's a Sonic RPG. You were talking Sonic up last episode,

1738
01:08:42,500 --> 01:08:45,820
and I've not, I've never really dug my heels into Sonic.

1739
01:08:46,540 --> 01:08:51,540
I'd forgot how much Sonic I had played because of my buddy Joey.

1740
01:08:53,940 --> 01:08:55,980
Um, and we're in high school. We,

1741
01:08:56,060 --> 01:08:59,660
this is when we like were really getting into me, especially it was getting like,

1742
01:08:59,660 --> 01:09:03,060
really into the retro gaming thing and I was pulling him with me and he had an

1743
01:09:03,060 --> 01:09:04,180
old Sega Genesis.

1744
01:09:04,540 --> 01:09:09,460
So we would like stay up late fucking playing Sonic and Sonic too.

1745
01:09:10,020 --> 01:09:13,700
I think Sonic two is when we played like a lot.

1746
01:09:14,300 --> 01:09:15,140
Okay.

1747
01:09:15,460 --> 01:09:20,460
I had totally forgotten about that until the Sonic movie came out and we were

1748
01:09:21,620 --> 01:09:25,220
watching it and Morgan kind of asked me like, she was asking me questions like,

1749
01:09:25,220 --> 01:09:27,500
I don't really know anything about Sonic. And I was like,

1750
01:09:27,500 --> 01:09:31,420
oh, I know is nice to remember that. And then I kind of recalled like, oh,

1751
01:09:31,420 --> 01:09:33,900
there was a Sonic advanced games. I remember playing those,

1752
01:09:33,900 --> 01:09:38,500
or at least there were Sonic games on like mini clip.com like a flash.

1753
01:09:38,540 --> 01:09:41,660
Like they were good Sonic flash games. I remember playing those quite a bit.

1754
01:09:42,380 --> 01:09:46,860
And then now playing Sonic adventure. Um, I believe that's what it is. Yeah.

1755
01:09:47,340 --> 01:09:51,100
Yeah. Yeah. It's, um, I'm really enjoying that one as well.

1756
01:09:51,700 --> 01:09:55,820
And I'm kind of kind of fanboying in on Sonic right now.

1757
01:09:55,820 --> 01:10:00,700
Yeah. All right. Well, uh, hopefully you're real Bob's game.

1758
01:10:00,740 --> 01:10:03,820
Otherwise I'm so intrigued. I hope it is too. I, yeah,

1759
01:10:03,820 --> 01:10:07,340
I kind of do too because it just sounds so it could be anything.

1760
01:10:07,700 --> 01:10:11,820
So that could be two weeks of fun. That could be two weeks of Sonic. Yeah.

1761
01:10:12,620 --> 01:10:16,940
And it's not even going to be like true Sonic because it's bio-ware Sonic.

1762
01:10:16,980 --> 01:10:20,860
And yeah, that's true. The RPG one. It'll be interesting.

1763
01:10:20,860 --> 01:10:24,340
Same team that did, um, it's an RPG Sonic.

1764
01:10:24,340 --> 01:10:27,180
So it's not even a classic Sonic experience. Yeah. Can I,

1765
01:10:27,220 --> 01:10:31,020
can I just play like a straight up like normal ass game? Do you want to?

1766
01:10:31,060 --> 01:10:33,780
I'm sure there's a straight up Sonic game that we. No, no, no, no, no, no.

1767
01:10:33,780 --> 01:10:36,180
This is fine. This is truly fine. We can elect it. No, let's do it.

1768
01:10:36,260 --> 01:10:41,260
We'll elect it. We'll find that. Yeah. Yeah. We'll figure it out.

1769
01:10:42,020 --> 01:10:46,060
Let's look up real quick here. Sonic on the DS.

1770
01:10:46,060 --> 01:10:49,660
Sonic on the DS.

1771
01:10:49,660 --> 01:10:53,220
So we've got, here you go, Ed.

1772
01:10:54,140 --> 01:10:57,460
If that game does not exist. Okay. If we don't play a Bob's game,

1773
01:10:57,860 --> 01:11:02,660
or if we play Bob's game and it's like a 20 minute experience type thing,

1774
01:11:03,420 --> 01:11:07,580
then we will play Sonic Classic Collection. Ooh. Uh,

1775
01:11:07,620 --> 01:11:11,500
four games in one. Oh shit. So. Right. But.

1776
01:11:11,780 --> 01:11:15,780
And that could be fun too, because then we're, who knows who plays which game?

1777
01:11:16,020 --> 01:11:17,940
Yeah. Yeah. Okay.

1778
01:11:17,940 --> 01:11:21,180
I mean, as far as the Sonic. The Sonic ones. Yeah. I mean,

1779
01:11:21,180 --> 01:11:25,500
I guess same could be said for Bob's game. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

1780
01:11:25,500 --> 01:11:28,860
All right. We'll find out. You'll find out. Yeah. We'll find out.

1781
01:11:28,900 --> 01:11:33,500
Y'all will find out next time. Next time on Pocket Cast.

1782
01:11:33,500 --> 01:11:48,100
Game on gamers. Yeah.