Hey everyone, and welcome to another episode of Pocket Cast.
This is a very special episode of Pocket Cast, being that it is episode 7.
And it's hailing baseballs outside.
Yeah, literally hailing baseballs.
So it's a good night to be recording, and not outside.
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That's me.
Yeah.
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Of course.
This week we covered...
This was Harvest Moon DS Grand Bazaar.
Grand Bazaar.
Or, in other words, Stardew Valley Nintendo DS Edition.
On baby legs.
You know, I just, I kinda have trouble saying it that way because it came first.
No, 100%.
And I know it's sacrilegious to make pretend at the opposite.
But this is my first Harvest Moon game.
It is my second Harvest Moon game.
The one, I've played this one now more than the other one that I've played.
Oh really?
Yeah.
No shit.
I know, and I think even at the end of last episode I even confused them.
Harvest Moon with, oh god, Happy Animals.
Animal Crossing.
Yeah, Animal Crossing.
Because I knew you liked Animal Crossing.
And I have to assume at this point that I probably just made the correlation on my own.
I don't know.
But I always thought you were super into Harvest Moon titles.
That, I can see the mix up and I'm seeing there's a new story of seasons coming out.
Story of seasons is what Harvest Moon became.
I don't know if it's the, like I assume it's one of those things where the creator doesn't
hold the rights to the name Harvest Moon.
Oh yeah.
And so he's gone on to make, or the team has gone on to make, story of seasons I think
is what it's called.
I'm not super familiar with them, but I just saw this one and it was very much Animal Crossing
meets Harvest Moon.
I mean, Harvest Moon is already, I mean already playing it.
It's kind of Animal Crossing.
I would say the-
It's a little, it's not, yeah.
You know, the dialogue, the interaction with the characters isn't nearly as fun as it is
in the Animal Crossing.
Yeah.
I know that we didn't probably but scratch the surface of this game.
So I know that there has to be more later on, like relationship building and crap like
that to progress character dialogue and whatever.
Well, but what it seems like though is that even those mechanics are really kind of basic.
What ends up happening is the juggling of your crops and the amount of relationships
that you were probably trying to main, like carry on.
Yeah.
And the benefits that they bring.
Because when I was watching the speedrun, the guy had talked about the, he was doing
the run for the best bazaar in the world.
Yeah.
Whereas the, he was talking about another one that you can do for the, like which one
you're marrying or if you get married first or I don't know what the-
Sure.
What the goal is at the end of the relationship one, but there's speed runs where they are
going to go for a relationship rather than focusing on the bazaar.
And I'm assuming so then there must also be a focus on the farm run as well or something.
I don't know if that would just go hand in hand with the bazaar.
I can't speak personally to Harvest Moon because again, I just scratched the surface because
there's so much to do in a given day, right?
It's farming simulator 101, but at the same time there's also this relationship building
feature thing.
And for someone who's trying to get the most content or the most progress in a game in
the shortest amount of time to be able to, I don't know, fill an hour with.
You know, I'm speed running those turnips, man.
I'm not gonna lie, I wasn't trying to talk to everybody very often.
And I remember in Stardew Valley, again, underlying principles one to one, for sure.
Stardew Valley starts you off making you, like your first social quest, if you will,
is to talk to every NPC and you quickly come to realize every NPC has its own routines.
It's like Majora's Mask, right?
Everybody's on a timetable.
Okay.
Yeah.
And then sometimes you'll hit a trigger at some point, progressing somebody's individual
character quest line, I guess you can call it, or relationship path, whatever.
And that might trigger an environmental change and it disrupts things.
You know, so people's patterns might shift because they get a different job or something
like that, right?
I think it's very well pronounced in something like Stardew Valley.
This one felt pretty meh.
Yeah, it was very, very meh.
Very mild.
And it seemed to me that even to the speed runners, this seemed very mundane, repetitive.
They were talking about how you can do the watering your turnips twice and they'll come
out with a higher quality.
Yeah.
But it takes, you have to wait 12 hours to water them again.
That being 12 minutes real time.
Yeah.
One minute is one second in the game.
So you've got 60 second hours.
Wait, is that right?
No, you have it backwards.
Yeah.
It's one second is one minute in the game.
Yeah.
I did have that backwards.
Yes.
In reverse.
Yeah.
Willy Wonka reversed that shit.
Strike that, reverse it.
Yeah.
Absolutely.
I've never heard that before.
I don't think.
Well, in the, he's got that line where he says, strike that, reverse it.
Willy Wonka is in there?
Willy Wonka in the movie, Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory.
Oh, he has a line.
He says strike that, reverse it.
Yeah.
He says something backwards.
I know you talked about that.
I don't remember for the life of me what it was he said.
Yeah, I wish I knew the response.
Damn.
Now I want to watch Willy Wonka, dude.
Here watch the remake.
John Depp one?
Yeah.
Man, I love Willy Wonka.
Like the story, the original, the book, the movies.
Charlie and the Chocolate Factory is the book.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So I'm torn because I didn't hate the Johnny Depp version.
I did like it.
It doesn't for me nearly have the charismatic charm that, and Jesus Christ, I cannot remember
the actors.
Jane Wilder.
Jane Wilder, yeah.
I was going to say Gene Audrey, but that is a totally different individual.
Yeah.
So it's Gene Wilder and he is, he's whatever his time frames Chris Farley.
I don't know.
I don't even remember Chris Farley.
Apples and oranges.
Definitely not Chris Farley.
Just so beloved.
Not at all the same type of presentation in their art at all.
But like to me, those are like equally deeply moving individuals.
I love Chris Farley, but when I'm talking about him, we're talking about Gene Wilder.
King.
Yeah.
But the Johnny Depp movie is so much more accurate to the book.
Is it really?
I've never seen it.
Dude, it is 100 percent like Willy Wonka's origin, like with his father and the dental
hygiene like militant regime and shit.
And then like his escapades into the unknown wildernesses to unearth new flavors and stuff.
Super, super lore accurate.
Like that's he's like out there slicing bugs in the jungle and like licking their guts
and he's like, maybe a candy idea.
You know, they ever do the what was the sequel to that one?
It was where because they break through the glass ceiling.
Yeah.
And then Willy Wonka, like that's.
But there's never heard it literally said that way out loud breaking through the glass
ceiling.
And then just like, was that was that a political statement?
Like, I mean, you got a little poor I was going to say orphan boy, but it wasn't not
an orphan, not an orphan at all.
You got a family fucking pimp as Grandpa Joe.
It passed.
We're like just slumming it.
Dude, no, man.
Grandpa Joe was pimp old school grandpa Joe.
He's either way.
He's just fucking slumming it through the fucking cabbage soup.
Just like just slum.
It's just the slum bag, dude.
Just fucking can't get out of bed to make a goddamn cent for his family.
And then the moment they're doing a trip to the fucking.
Like why is it?
Why is it?
Oh, golden ticket, you say, boy, my legs feel a bit juvenile.
Oh, yeah.
I haven't gotten out of bed in 13 years.
Yeah.
Piece of shit.
Grandpa Joe.
You know, he was out there like on the prowl at night slaying some posts, some alley posts.
Oh, dude, so strange.
100 percent.
He was just the syphilis that kept him in bed.
Do you think Grandpa Joe is James from James and the Giant Beach?
Just out there.
I was trying to get that booty.
And then just after years of the syphilis and the booty chasing, you just got too tired
of the peachy sweet juices.
You can't get out of bed anymore.
I'm sorry.
What the fuck?
I tried to hang on there with you, dude.
I don't.
We took some fucking turns on that one.
I mean, I'm just asking for a little bit for you to.
Dude, I've got my eyes wide open, dude.
My third eye is fucking blasted right now and I have I cannot.
I need you to know how we got here.
My heart.
My bad.
Wrong.
Metaphysical.
I need all seven of them opened up.
Seven.
I think it's seven.
Bro, I'm a fat 30 plus year old dude.
You think you got more than seven then?
No, I was going to say one is impressive.
I just figured you had like to make a circle around your stomach for those that can't see.
Yeah, I'm glutton.
I'm glutton from Full Metal Alchemist.
Oh, man, yeah, I just knew exactly what you were talking about.
I didn't know I had that image and information link in my brain, but you just accessed it.
Yeah, you're welcome, dude.
Boom.
There you go.
Yeah.
Thanks.
I'm glad you can access the library that I can't fucking access.
It's a lot easier to hit random shit when you're throwing darts in the dark, buddy.
That's true.
Man, I'm going to pass that one on to somebody's kids.
Probably not mine.
Your kids.
I'm not yours.
Like yours to the to the audience.
Your kids.
Oh, right.
The listeners kids.
We've been doing this for so many years.
It'll be your kids.
Your kids are going to grow up listening to this.
We can do it in our in our fucking.
I don't know what time.
Like what point do you think they're going to start, you know, looking at putting us
in a home or something?
Probably not until our 80s.
And we got until like we said 60s in our 60s.
We'll be done with this in our 60s.
Oh, yeah.
Once we get.
Yeah, because we did the math on how long it is.
Well, at this rate, shit, maybe 60, 70s.
I can promise to you and our listeners at home or at work or wherever the fuck you are,
I'm going to do my best to keep my life together.
For at least.
Twelve months starting in August.
That's fair.
Yeah, I'd have a crazy couple of months.
You had like this fire at his office that was like all electrical and definitely didn't
have anything to do with him.
And the police didn't look into him at all.
Well, because I was so helpful.
He wasn't held at all by the police for 72 hours or longer.
And we didn't get pushed off even further when he got released.
And then the press came out and his his manager dropped him.
And then, you know, my agents won't let me record with him unless he's got his agents.
And so now we are just stuck in this periodic hellscape.
Yeah, there's nothing that we could do.
It's really been an unfortunate nightmare.
Well, I think again, I didn't do anything, but I can't believe Stacey didn't make it
out.
You know, she should have been there.
I told her to come to work.
Yeah, it's a tragedy, man.
He Stacey or if he Stacey, your mom still got it going on, though.
She look good in that black dress at the.
She's looking real good, dude.
She's looking real fucking good.
Fucking fire.
Hmm. Yikes. About to bust out that lawnmower, see if she needs her grief grass cut.
Hmm. Speaking of which, yeah, then the game Harvest Moon.
Right. Notice that there's a double jump.
You know, I did.
That was one of my favorite mechanics.
It felt it felt so out of place, but so good.
It was the best double jump.
He's like, oh, my God, it feels like I'm clearing some air.
Oh, dude, I mean, well, let's let's do the.
Let's do the bachelor math on that because I'm not busting out numbers at all for this.
Sure. But you're easily jumping three and a half for I'm going to say more of your characters.
OK, yeah, probably. Oh, of your character.
Yeah, like your pixel art.
Probably two and a half.
Two and a half on the screen from like an actual pixel density.
But in terms of like the relative, yeah, yeah, space to the because like, you know, that
section like right south of the farm and you're like supposed to be on a hill and then the
path comes down on the slope.
But like off to the side, you have like those.
I don't know, like cliff steps that come down, you know, totally with the river.
You can just straight up jump over two of those.
Yeah. Trying to tell me that's only like two and
a half times your height.
OK, let's be real about the like the cliff that you can double jump onto.
Yeah. Did you realize that you can there's a shortcut all the way across to the market
because you jump on the barrel.
It took me a long time to realize you can jump on the barrel.
Me too. I think it was an accident.
I think so for this for me as well.
Yeah, I was I was delightfully pissed.
Yeah. I was like, how many times have I spent so much fucking time running around?
And then you watch some of the speedrun, you know.
Yeah. The fact that you could have absolutely just planted and gone to sleep
and planted and gone to sleep and like just watered and gone to sleep.
Pulled your turn. I did know into like town nearly as much
because I kept buying, like picking things up and sell them to Raul.
And then like trying to like make extra money.
I was also trying to build my relationships just by talking to these characters.
But every day they say the same fucking. Yeah.
Do they have they try to give them flowers?
It took me a minute to figure out how to give them flowers.
I figured it out. Mm hmm.
That didn't do anything.
And then. Finally, something happened
where I was able to build like a little bit of relationship with somebody.
And I don't even remember that it happened to fall on a certain day
where you like it was like a gift giving day.
It could have been or I don't.
So I didn't realize this, but I had a.
I had a significant head start.
Understanding of like the mechanics, like the underlying mechanics of the game.
And of course, it's from Stardew Valley, but like I knew going in,
I was like, I'm going to be skipping days.
I'm going to be skipping days.
I'm going to try to talk to everybody once in town.
It's going to fucking stonewall you in terms of progress
to at least probably the first weekend, second weekend,
because and same thing in Stardew Valley.
Granted, there's no bizarre, but basically everything you sell.
You get your gains back, I think, at the end of each week.
Yeah, I think I know I played a tiny bit.
Oh, God, it's been a while.
I'm pretty sure there's you can sell things overnight each night.
You drop them in the box.
Yeah, but then there's something that happens at the end of each week
where like that's where your big returns are for the life of me.
Jesus, I don't remember what it is.
Does like a certain crop take a week or is a certain vendor come around?
Yeah, there might have been. Holy fuck.
Did they have a bizarre of sorts?
Never played the game. Fuck me.
I don't remember. There was there was something.
Maybe maybe it was just nightly.
It's I think I've realized that I really want to like farming games
and I just don't have the attention span or it's just for some reason.
Like it makes me sleepy.
But I definitely feel that I feel like.
Man, if there was one that you like, if you were like one more try,
one more try, Stardew Valley and you can co-op it.
Yeah, but it is it is a very it is as good as it gets, in my opinion.
But, you know, with all of my experience of having played that game,
plus however many hours I put into Harvest Moon DS Grand Bazaar.
But it's super well polished.
The mechanics are clean.
And like I've played it on PC and Switch.
Both feel really good.
I will say I like the art style more on Harvest Moon than I do on Stardew Valley.
Uh, you know, because I get which are we holding?
Because, again, my only exposure is this title here.
Are we holding that one to the flame or are you thinking something else?
No, I'm thinking of this exact Harvest Moon.
When I'm talking Harvest Moon, I mean this game.
Fair enough. That's fair. That's fair.
Because I get it's one of those things where.
Whenever something becomes.
How do I say this?
Whenever something is like retrofitted, an example being like Ship Lap
or anything you're seeing people do in their homes right now that they did,
like in the 70s, in the 80s and 90s and early 2000s, you were like,
that looks bad, but now it looks good again.
That's going to look bad again.
I'm not saying that like it could. I think I think I hear you.
Because pixel art, you can look back and there's always been good pixel art.
Stardew Valley's is good,
but it's not like an astonishing pixel art to me.
It doesn't like it, like because I'm even thinking about, too,
looking at some of the Harvest Moon games prior that are 16 bit.
Mm hmm. It did such a good job on the DS
where it doesn't look in a lot of games that go for 3D models on the DS.
You end up with a lot chunkier or like sharper edges on the characters.
You know, the polygons are a little bit more noticeable. Right.
In this game, it was really the characters were very well rounded.
I mean that literally like they're there.
There's not really sharp edges on them.
That's there's not a grainy filter at all to the because sometimes you run into
that, too, where it's like because they're using so much.
I think the mintium. Yeah. Grainy.
Grainy. Yeah. There's no grain in this one.
It just looks it looks really smooth and buttery.
And that's another reason like I just really wanted to love this game.
I thought for sure in the first two days, the two games and the days in the game,
I thought for sure like I'm going to love this.
This is going to be my jam.
Like I am all about Harvest Moon.
I'm going to this is going to be a game I'm going to keep playing
after we're done with this week.
How did you like it, Fletcher? I did not. Yeah.
I mean, it put me to sleep really well.
And I'm never opposed to that.
I love a game that I can play where I can just like feel my eyes closing
and I'm having trouble focusing and like also I kind of open my eyes
and I'm like running into a wall or like you come to and your eyes are open.
But you're just like, do you?
That was me playing solo to Robo.
Yeah, dude.
Every not every time, of course, but like, fuck me every time.
I feel like so let's see.
Robo kept me going more than Harvest Moon did, because then after your first week,
you hit that wall of just like, oh, my God, this is going to be so much repetition.
I know. Well, like every every time you sell your crops, because I think
the farm plot that you start out with,
I don't remember the dimensions per se, but I think I think you can
plant 54 crops at once or something like that. OK.
Did you ever were you able to the point where you could fill it all the way up?
No, I almost had it filled up, but I didn't have it quite
because I also had trouble understanding how not to walk on them.
Yes. And I know you explained the mechanic to me, but I could not get it to work.
I can. I did not. You can also there's a toggle walk button.
So walking doesn't hurt them.
No, walking is fine. It's only when you're sprinting.
Yeah, that makes so much more sense.
I just always forgot there's a sprint button.
Like I would use the first deal where you turned it on and then just turned off.
And I was just like, oh, whatever, la dee da dee da,
because it is a lot of time killing, at least in the beginning.
And if you're doing it the way I was doing it, where like I was trying to
make the most out of every day.
100 percent. And then you get to the Grand Bazaar and you're like,
oh, I didn't need to do.
I just needed to grow these fucking crops.
And it's I think the part where I got stuck the most is the animation time
to interact with each plot.
Oh, how about the sounds?
Oh, did you choose a boy or a girl character?
You went with a girl, didn't you? I went with a boy.
Oh, did you? OK.
But you did see that same video as me where the girl character
just makes the most obnoxious, like half orgasm noise.
It is weird. It's bad. It is unsettling.
And yet to hear that on repeat so many times, 54 times.
Well, well, that depends because if you're planting, if it's planting day
and unless you if you plant it perfectly and you harvest on Bazaar day
and then plant that day, if you can somehow have enough stamina,
then you don't have to hoe the plots the next day
because you don't have enough stamina to hoe every plot to plant
every plot and water every plot.
And don't even get me started on fucking fertilizer if you want to use that.
And then you got to and if you do want stamina, you can buy food
and drinks and stuff at the cafe.
So you can do that.
Yeah. God damn it.
I don't know how much it gives you and it's expensive.
It's like 350 coins for just my best grand Bazaar day.
It was like 18 grand. 18 grand.
I don't remember how much mine was, but I guarantee it wasn't that much.
I did pretty well, but I think it was like five.
That's pretty good, though. Yeah, I did.
I I did the same thing as you for the first couple of weeks
because I knew there was going to be a well, I didn't know.
I assumed there was going to be a relationship situation.
It's a lot more.
I guess intuitive, like a Stardew Valley,
and and I was pretty sure that system was there.
And then there's a menu in there where you can see everybody's like heart levels.
Yeah. And so confirmed.
But Jesus Christ, there's there's a lot of weird triggers.
Right. I think after the first month,
I think you get windmills.
I think that's after the first month.
Really? I didn't get that far.
Or not. I guess it's the first season rather.
Right. But I think it's the first season.
But yeah, you can put it's basically like a refinery.
So you can and you can make like teas and stuff.
And there's obviously all of the event days on the calendar, like the holidays.
You can give people specific things on those days and they'll like them.
And then I don't know about this game, but I know like Stardew Valley, every
every NPC had like three categories of items.
Shit that they absolutely under no circumstance want to be gifted
and they'll fucking hate you for it.
Mediocre shit or maybe maybe it was neutral or something.
And then stuff that they're like, yeah, this was cool.
Yeah, they did. And then they're like, yo, I'll suck your dick for this shit.
If you looked at their description, it says things that they like.
Damn. Yeah.
So I don't think it's as in depth as that, but it is similar to that.
Yeah.
Yeah, I did not progress a single relationship.
I got to maybe progress.
And one was with like someone's son, one of the nice boys.
I don't know.
And then one of them was with the the business oriented chick.
Do you know what I'm talking about?
Yeah.
The one that worked outside the city.
I was like, oh, yeah, the milf.
That's who I'm getting.
Yeah, I feel like I am on principle because I fucking hate the mayor
because he looks like a lion.
He looks like the cowardly lion.
I love the mayor.
I fucking cannot stand him, dude.
He's a cool dude.
He's got these cool glasses.
Coolest dude vibe to him.
Big dick energy, dude.
BD. What? Oh, yeah.
No, dude, this guy wouldn't shut the fuck up, dude.
He's pissing me off.
So I do.
I gave his daughter flowers every fucking day for a month, dude.
So I guess maybe I did.
I don't know if she liked him or not.
I just gave her fucking.
Actually, I gave her really literally anything that I had.
Look at this value, not a sting.
Give her a stick. I gave her flowers.
I gave her coins running up with this thing.
I'm just like,
hey, Mary's daughter.
Just throwing a stick at her.
I don't know if she liked it or not.
I don't know.
She didn't write me any letters, but I think she appreciated it.
It didn't matter if she liked me or not.
What mattered is I hope that the mayor saw this.
That's all I just want him to know.
I just want him to know that I could probably dick down his daughter,
assuming she's of legal consenting age.
I don't think many of the characters in that game were.
Well, that's not what I wanted to hear.
Fletcher, I hate to tell you that.
That was like an instant thing that made me uncomfortable in this game.
I was just like, oh, I'm supposed to be like 12 playing this game because,
oh, it just seems like, I don't know, maybe it's just a chibi.
Am I saying that right?
Chibi. Yeah, this is a chibi look.
Yeah, I don't know.
I see the chibi.
I mean, granted, there is a difference between Loli or Lolly or whatever.
Loli.
Lollipop, right?
No, Lollicon.
Right, but Lollipop.
No, that's a candy.
I thought that was like a reference to Lollipop.
No, just Lollicon.
I understand the term Lollicon.
I thought the term Lollicon was coined from the term Lollipop.
Oh, I mean,
fuck, I mean, I don't know definitively that it's not, I guess.
I don't fucking know.
I just thought it was the Japanese name for the category of like, yeah,
I'm not saying it on the podcast.
Google it, nerds.
Yeah, don't.
You don't need to.
I know that if you're listening to this podcast, if you're a nerd enough to listen
to a fucking podcast about a video game, yeah.
And then like the other like five people that are just like our friends that are
nice enough to listen to it.
Thank you.
So appreciate it.
Love you. Thanks for being here.
Sorry for weirding you out.
Like if you like listening to a podcast that you found on Spotify,
I have a feeling that you know what Lollicon is.
Yeah, I would take that bet.
Assuming that that phrase means that I'm on your side of that bet, not that I'm
taking the bet to bet against you, I don't know exactly what that means.
Jesus, what the fuck?
Now that you mention it, I have no idea.
Because I know what you mean when you say that.
But like if somebody came up and said, I'll take that action, I would like, oh,
you are taking the opposite stance.
Yeah, that's exactly what I would think.
Assuming that what we're betting on is a I remember the other day you did.
You did correct yourself as you didn't even correct yourself.
You just made sure to specify when you said it.
You said, I'll take that bet if we're betting on the same team or something like
that, where I guess I knew what you meant.
I was like, yeah,
yeah, yeah.
Yeah, but I would take that bet, assuming
that you and I are both standing on the same side of the proverbial fence.
Yes, absolutely.
All right.
In which case, who the fuck's paying up the house?
That's what I'm saying.
Like that's the only thing I've never understood is when you're betting on sports
and you're betting on the side that's like, yeah, I mean, they're guaranteed.
They're most likely to win.
You put money on it.
You're still going to win money back.
I would assume.
If you're if you're a bit, oh, well, OK, so before I even even it all way in.
I know dick about betting.
OK, I don't. Yeah, I yeah, I don't know.
I don't understand how the over under works.
I understand in principle I get usually.
I don't understand mathematically how it's achieved.
Most of the bet parts like the things that they're betting on.
I understand it's more of the pay out and like, oh, like, how do you?
Yeah, it's shown up with two hundred thousand dollars.
You've got eighty five bucks.
The guy next to you dropped in five K and you're all betting on the same thing.
And then you're like,
where are we getting money from?
I have to assume like there's just a large enough pool from people that are.
Do you just think of a horse race?
It makes sense because there's like what 12 plus horses.
I have no idea.
I've never been a horse race in my life,
but there's many horses in a single race, right?
Everybody can bet on each of them.
Right.
So let's say there's 12 horses.
There's only one horse winning.
It would be a miracle of something like if everyone bet on that one horse.
Right. Like, where's that money that I want to know for sure.
Like, where's that money?
Horse betting.
You don't know a lot about horse betting.
I don't know dick about horse betting is a lot like Kino betting.
Where I'm already lost to you.
I've been playing Kino for years.
And let's just say, right.
So just the easiest way to explain this to you is if you bet on.
I don't totally know this about horse betting.
I just think from having read enough
Bukowski and like watching movies and like spin around people that bet on horses.
There's like horse betting going on around me, like in like watching the Derby on the
fucking TVs. All right.
I kind of have an idea.
Sounds credible as fuck to me.
So the way Kino works is if I bet on one number with one dollar,
I'm going to get three dollars back if I hit that one number.
OK.
But if I bet one dollar on two different
numbers and I get both of those numbers, I'm getting 1150 back.
Now, if I bet one dollar on three numbers and I get all three come in,
then I'm going to get 40 bucks, 42 bucks.
OK, so like it multiplies.
I understand like, so now with more specific it gets more required.
Now with horses, you're like, this one's getting first.
This one's getting second.
This one's getting third.
That's like a trifecta.
And that is what is going to pay you out a lot.
Just betting which horse is going to get first.
Because then you even when you're watching
the races that comes up and tells you what the odds are on that horse winning.
So we'll see.
And that's that's the thing is the odds
because like the the pay scale of like based on the complexity of the odds.
Yeah.
How the odds are generated.
I mean, I have to assume it's like previous races.
It's like looking at players, you know, stat cards.
Yeah.
Like, oh, well, this horse is undefeated.
He runs this kind of time.
He's undefeated.
It's his first time through his young.
Yeah.
That stuff makes sense for the most part.
But it's it's I feel like.
To me, an outsider looking in knowing the baseline,
you just like I can see the outline of how the complexity is organized.
But to me, it looks like the like a fucking detective's idea board,
you know, with everything pinned together and shit all over the fucking place.
I think betting is one of those things.
There's not a ton of things there, but there's not a lot of things I can think
to like make this an example to, but it's one of those type of things.
Yeah. Where in order to figure it out,
you have to just jump into it and just start like putting yourself around it.
So like it's just like you go to a horse betting place.
Yeah. And you just start making bets and then like being around it and doing it.
You you start to figure more out.
No, that totally makes sense.
But from the outside, it's like so hard.
Yeah. You're like, what the fuck is going on?
You have to play the card game to figure out the rules.
That totally makes sense.
And I think that's why I've never been big on.
Betting. I'm just like, man, I don't.
I don't know what the fuck.
I like I like sports, but like because like Sam, Sam bets on it like NBA games.
Yeah. Every once in a while.
And he'll tell me, oh, yeah, this is my bet.
And he's like, I've got like six bets going and like all six have to hit.
Oh, dude, it's insane.
And this one's a three way split and that one's a fucking one or like this one's
a separate bet, you know, and it's like on eight games and 12 players.
And this is the bracket.
And I'm like, oh,
yeah, I don't.
I mean, like, I know one of those players names.
And I don't even know what team he's on, like.
I have to like sometimes I'll watch a basketball game and I'll be like.
What was that foul like?
I don't how do you get what was the play?
I didn't pick up on that.
OK, all right.
Well, I remember what the key is, so feeling good about that.
I know what the goal is.
Shit. Yeah, not a not a sports guy.
I'm not the biggest sports guy either.
I went to a T-ball game last week.
That sounds incredibly boring.
You know, they're really short, so.
I am always surprised by how short they are because of my work and
like bar, local restaurant, neighborhood restaurant.
So people come in before the T-ball game
and then they'll come in after the T-ball game.
And you just like, did you adjust here?
You guys get rained out or they played?
No, they went the full three innings.
Yeah, it takes a long time to go three innings with a bunch of five year olds.
No, I mean, yes, don't get me wrong.
But like everybody bats once change, everybody that's once.
And the only like they're they're basically practicing three fundamentals.
Batting.
Obviously running.
OK, so running to the batting, hitting, of course, accompanying batting, running,
of course, running correctly, also paired with that.
And then from like the fielder's perspective,
getting the ball in, throwing to first,
but they don't give a shit about the rest of the bases.
Just throw to first.
Yeah, like that's it.
Field the ball, get the first kids are running.
I don't think I saw anyone get out.
You know, yeah, not saying it couldn't happen,
and I don't know what would happen if the potentiality for an actual out call.
So I don't know.
Everybody swings until they hit one
and then they hit it.
And then the other fundamental was paying attention.
Yeah, I remember being the kid in the field, not paying attention to every single kid
coming up the bat. You're like, is this kid about to get the fuck on, dude?
Is this kid about to eat a fucking little?
I don't know how long their bats are,
like a 36 inch little slugger, like to the face.
So, bro.
There was honestly it was a pretty fucking good time.
It does actually sound pretty entertaining.
It was cute as fuck, man.
Like some of these kids, they just get so frustrated, you know?
And it was I get it, dude.
I get it. I remember.
Cory's kid was talking to me and she's like,
she did really well, but like her third time up at bat, she missed like her first
pitch and like the first two, she fucking great.
I was like, yo, and she was like smirking and shit.
Are they a pitch or is it?
So it is T-ball, but like it's like toss it up.
Yeah, like, yeah, like one of the coaches is not far away and it's an underhand
toss. Yeah. And then like they'll give them like the kids can decline it to or they
can opt either way.
And
if they opted for pitching and they missed like two or three,
then then they would set up the T-ball and they'd hit the T-ball swing on it,
at least until they made a valid hit.
But she like on our third one,
she missed that first swing and it fucking rattled her to her fucking core, dude.
She was so mad and she just kind of kept fucking it up.
And it was I felt really bad for her.
She was so frustrated and she still smacked the shit out of it after they put
it on the T-ball, but she was so mad that they put it on the T.
And she was so funny.
I know she's absolute queen out there just owning that field.
And meticulous form on her on her swing stance. It was it was awesome, dude.
I had a blast.
That does sound like a good time.
It makes me think I have
just been I just have been messing with not retro art, which is not an emulator.
Right. And I did not download a not
from a GameCube game that is Mario baseball game.
Oh, I didn't know there was a baseball.
It's like, no, it's like Mario sluggers or something.
Like, it's like, you remember they had like on the NBA or on the GameCube.
They had like strikers, strikers, soccer, one soccer one.
Obviously tennis. They had the tennis one.
And then they had like a street basketball one.
And I guess they have kind of like a like backyard baseball one.
Yeah, I don't know if I ever actually played it.
I never seen this at all.
I definitely knew it was out there.
I don't think I ever played it, but I always just assumed it was like backyard
baseball. I love baseball games, like especially I love the backyard.
Baseball game, dude.
They've been coming up on my talk for you lately, like lives of like people.
People playing it is a slow paced game.
It is really funny to see, like, damn, I do not remember it being.
But you know, you're a kid playing a kid's game, right?
Yeah.
But yeah, I love especially what was the other one?
The super mega baseball or something like that.
They just came out with a third or a fourth one.
Yeah, that might. That sounds right.
Well, maybe that's the name of it.
And it was like a really you can either
play it arcade or you can make it really like like a bit more sim like or something.
Yes. Yeah.
More realistic, not more realistic.
Yeah. And I love me some arcade baseball games.
This is the I'm not good enough.
I'm not good enough at video games and I'm definitely not good enough with sports.
Yeah.
The arcade sports game, honestly, that's where it's
NFL Blitz. Yeah, I had an NFL game.
I fucking loved that game.
My brothers and I played the shit out of that game on GameCube.
Yeah.
Especially when you could like set up like the custom
like skins and shit and you could just be ogres or whatever the fuck running around
absolutely shit stomping people or the fact that like for four or five seconds
after a play, you could control the characters and then you could just all
like dive onto things and you could dive onto the bench.
The bench would explode and everybody would flip off of it.
You would fuck up the cheerleaders, dude.
I think my cousins had that on N64.
Is it that old shit?
I'm sure there's one on GameCube.
I don't doubt that.
Oh, yeah. But there could have been a 64 title maybe.
Yeah. I think like the original because I had one on the Gameboy,
not even Gameboy Color.
I had a Gameboy game of the NFL Blitz.
Fuck. Yeah. Yeah.
God, that damn core memory is unlocked.
I have a core memory of was the game case black because the game cartridge.
I think I have it like in that drawer right there.
The game cartridge NFL Blitz is black.
Shit. I don't remember that.
It might have been like all the other ones were like gray or whatever.
Yeah.
Not many were like a different color than gray.
Yeah.
Because then I'm thinking of like 64 cartridges and shit.
There's the N64 cartridge for Killer Instinct was black.
That makes sense. So is the SNES one.
It was sick.
Fuck. Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. This whole gray catalog.
Just that black one.
You know what?
Yeah.
Didn't kick your ass.
Banjo-Kazooie title that had like a sunflower yellow or red or yellow.
I thought Pokemon.
Pokemon game was the yellow.
I guess there could be multiple ones that were yellow.
This is true.
Yeah. I mean, it would make sense because you are collecting the yellow
everything, a lot of yellow items.
I don't play Banjo-Kazooie.
I don't know.
I've never played a piece of Kazooie.
I watched you play it.
I watched you play a bit of it.
You like the Spyro games, right?
Yeah. Spyro doesn't have tank controls.
I mean.
I'm not hating on tank controls.
Yeah.
That's there's a huge difference between Banjo-Kazooie.
No, 100 percent.
I mean, I want to remove tank controls from the
from the environment here only to give Banjo-Kazooie a fighting chance.
How are you going to remove tank controls from the game?
I just mean subjectively as part of its critique.
Don't get me wrong.
Overall, it's still a factor and it is poopy.
And I'm with you.
I hate the way that it looks.
OK, you don't have to make it personal.
OK, I don't like the fucking music.
OK, can we talk about something different?
Jesus Christ.
Childhood is going up in flames right now.
I watched you play it and I didn't love it, but I stayed quiet that whole time.
God damn.
All right. Well, maybe keep doing that.
I don't even think you when we were playing it.
I don't feel like you made it that far.
Like this game kind of sucks now.
Damn.
I think it was like the
way it was like, oh, my God, I'm going to think of it.
And Joe Toohey, well, there's Banjo-Toohey,
but I think it was playing through just Banjo-Kazooie, but it was the rare
collection. Yeah, yeah.
We've talked about this before on the podcast.
Yeah, we have.
I couldn't remember the word.
I was like, the collection.
Yeah.
Rareware.
Wow.
Yeah, I'm not going to say that, honestly.
I have not tried to say it a lot before, and I don't think we're going to do that
for the first time today. I feel OK about it.
Rareware.
Yeah.
That's
I want to go back to this.
I mean, like, why did you think just remove it?
I didn't think it was.
That's why I was about myself.
Oh, because I'm the one that said I think it sounded OK.
Yeah. Oh, you're sounding great.
You said it perfectly. Oh, thank you.
Yeah. No, I
don't know what I did, but it wasn't it wasn't that.
And I'm not going to try it again.
Got to smash those those impulses further down, I guess.
So I've been on a sonic kick lately.
Ooh, I talked to you about this at all.
Yeah. You told me you were playing the
fuck with the open world one, not the open world.
Well, so it's the dreamcast one and Sonic Adventure.
Oh, yeah, that's right.
Sonic Adventure 2 is the one that introduces like Shadow the Hedgehog.
And I think it's when they have like boards and they're racing down hills.
That's the one I thought that I was getting.
It was like three bucks on steam money from selling skins and shit.
So skin money, skin money.
Those are, you know, the way I'm not selling human skins.
Yeah, he is telling him, why do you?
Well, I mean, I'll let you use what
context you have with our use of knots in this podcast.
Yeah, lots of knots, lots of knots.
Anyways, so it's the Sonic Adventure game is the first one.
It's like a dreamcast remaster of it.
And it's open stages like it's open world and like the sense of like how Spyro is.
Like you go to a level, it's got the hub world, which is open for you to
explore around and then there's like different shit, different shit you can go pop into.
Only difference being it's not really like
where there's not like multiple places you can go in the hub world.
Like it walks certain places and opens up
certain places as you're progressing to the story.
And there's like ways for you to go to progress it on.
That makes sense. Yeah, it's pretty fun.
I'm really enjoying it.
That's good. It's a game that's really hard to control.
And then you get fucking, you know, 30 hours on it.
No shit.
I have 30 hours logged into it because I keep falling asleep.
Like Ren will fall asleep while I'm playing it.
And I'll just like set down the controller.
That's what I keep telling myself.
My Counter-Strike hours are. Yeah, me too.
Yeah, I'm one time seven years ago.
I just accidentally left CSGO open for.
Two days, 36 weeks.
That's what I was like, can I edit this?
God, I know.
I think I have the same thing on.
Half-life.
What's the one opposing force?
An opposing force.
You have a shitload of time on opposing force.
Yeah.
Like, why?
Because I actually did dash it down for like a week
because opposing forces, that's an old game now.
But you can just like dash it down and just start doing other shit.
That's where you forget that it's running.
I think I played Counter-Strike while I had Half-Life running.
Yeah, I've definitely done that before with one of the older ones.
Yeah, like what's the blue shift? Blue shift.
I like that one.
Yeah, that's a good one.
That one's way better than opposing force.
Yeah, I think I've only played through opposing force once.
And then I was like, yeah, yeah, experienced that.
Meanwhile, Fletcher's over here got 800% of the opposing force.
He just can't get past this level.
Just give it up, man. Just give it up.
We touched lightly on it
about the sound of the girl character.
Oh, yeah.
How did you feel about that sound design?
Because I was so annoyed.
I didn't mind the song.
The music was fine.
But then the constant like,
there's like always a noise.
Every single thing that you did,
especially like when you're talking to Raul selling stuff.
Another thing we can talk about is
Raul being like extremely racist, kind of.
Yeah.
But there's this comment that he makes about how like, you know,
he doesn't really dress like this or something, but like everyone really liked
that he was foreign or something like that.
So he like brought in all of his like foreign stuff.
So it's like wearing a sombrero and a poncho just because people like it.
He's like fucking gets me money.
Yeah.
There's something about that that just feels like
the comment being made.
I mean, power to him, though.
Like, do you, Raul?
The dude Raul was fucking dope as fuck, man.
He's one of my favorite characters.
Raul.
That makes way more sense.
Yeah. Otherwise, it's just Paul with an R.
Yeah.
I like Raul.
I am a midwesterner.
Man, what are you doing?
Raul.
Can't help where I'm from.
No, I like Raul.
God damn it, Raul.
Raul.
Raul and his brothers.
Yeah, they like those guys a lot.
Yeah, they were great.
But the talking constant, there's that noise was just guys.
I had this my sound turned off, I think, the whole time we played this game after
the first little bit.
I was not impressed.
Well, so you talk about the repetitive sound that your player character makes
every time you do a farming action, of which you are doing so many repeatedly
in, well, not quick enough, but in quick succession.
Yeah, long successions.
Oh, dude.
And it's just every time you make that godawful sound.
But
that's where I was falling asleep,
is whenever I'm doing farming shit, it's just so mind numbing, dude.
And it takes so long.
And honestly, the sprite difference between
like a watered and unwatered plant, depending on the type of plant.
I don't know if you got to the point
where you're doing like vines or anything like that.
But it just makes some of the shit so fucking hard to see.
And it's not.
It's just not super distinctive at times.
And like the fertilizer, it gives you that little sparkle shimmer.
I don't know if you ever used fertilizer.
Yeah. Oh, yeah.
But like it pulses like this little,
I don't know, if pink, if you're a glittery, it rises up off the crop plot.
Yeah.
But like you have to wait for the animation to continue and they all do it
at the same time.
And so you're looking for one that's like, oh, my God, which one doesn't have
fucking when you have the multiple rows going on with that.
It's a nightmare. Oh, it's just.
Yeah.
But that's I would I would turn the sound on as much as I hated it.
So that way I could like watch TV while I was doing it and no one to have to hit
the button to plant the next one and I just hold left or right.
Keep walking.
After the animation concludes.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah, that that part.
That part sucked.
That was not that.
And that's one of the reasons why I can still so heavily recommend
Stardew Valley, because at no time ever did the farming like don't get me wrong.
Sometimes it's a chore.
But then you get like sprinklers and shit and they auto water, you know.
Yeah, that's pretty cool.
That's pretty tight.
No sprinklers in this game that I I mean, I probably did not get far enough to get
to that point. Maybe they have sprinklers.
It didn't seem like it.
I didn't make it past the first year.
I know that in the new story seasons that I've seen the ad for that they are.
They have sprinklers that you set up.
Maybe not. Maybe that was actually a different game.
That was a different game.
Yeah, it's like Grandpa's Farm or something like that is what I'm thinking of.
Yeah, Grandpa's Farm.
That sounds like a Stardew Valley rip off.
That's the whole premise.
You have to like avoid Grandpa the whole time.
Like, oh, it's a horror game.
No, I mean, it's like
a child simulator game.
What?
Actually, no, I don't have any questions.
I don't know anymore.
It sounds like it sounds like you're trying to clue me into a felony here.
That would be really fun, though, if you made a game that was like the visit
where it's like the grandparents are like fucking nuts and you just have to avoid
Grandma and Grandpa while you're trying to like keep the farm afloat at the same time.
Oh, God.
Oh, yeah.
Any any horror devs?
Yeah.
Off farming horror.
Yeah, change Grandma's demented diapers.
This is like two hours beforehand.
She was trying to murder your ass while you're doing the cabbages.
It's like changing her diaper like a like a Quicktime event minigame.
I was kind of thinking of like
surgeon simulator.
Oh.
Oh, because you're a drunk.
This sounds like a drunk.
A drunken child.
Yeah.
You know what?
Earlier, you accused me of not having my heart chakra opened.
I want to open it for you, buddy.
Let's make that game.
Let's do it.
Let's make a VR version as well.
VR. That sounds so scary.
Can you make a game that you can't play?
100 percent.
Could I like I mean, do I currently possess the skills to even make any game?
No, no, not at all.
Let's assume that I had or had the time and disposition to work to that.
And could I make a game potentially that would be too scary for me to play?
Yeah.
But I mean, would you have to have like someone else play test it for you?
Oh, I mean, let's be honest.
And I'm not saying that my shit would be so good it didn't need to be tested.
I would I would test in isolated ways and then just mash them together.
I would just test it by putting it out.
Three alpha.
Oh, player tested.
Fuck. Yeah.
Yeah.
Like this game straight up does not launch.
Dang.
I'm like, give me more details.
Can you send me like an error log report, please?
Nope.
No, your report logger doesn't work either.
Fuck. This game is a scam.
So it would take me a while, but I feel like I could never play.
I mean, I could just like I could like I could just go into the Gary's Mod and
just like script in one quick little jump scare or something going down a dark
hallway. I could do that. That would scare the shit out of me.
And I wouldn't want to play.
Doesn't take a lot.
No, it doesn't.
So the game is actually not going to be that scary.
Yeah, there's so much atmosphere to build into it.
OK, let's let me let's rephrase this question to.
To allow me.
To keep my answer.
Could I.
Direct.
Absolutely.
A qualified.
Group of individuals.
To make a game that I couldn't play most definitely.
I would be like, make a scary game and then they would make a scary game and I
would not be able to play it. Hit them up.
Konami.
Does Konami make scary games?
Is it Konami or Capcom that makes the Resident Evil?
Oh, I don't know.
I thought that was Umbrella Corp.
It might be Capcom.
I think it's a Capcom game.
What I think Capcom and I think fighter games.
Yeah, fighter Mega Man.
Capcom used to be huge.
I knew that big name.
And I didn't know they got a big name.
They got a big name. Capcom versus Marvel.
And you can play as all of the Capcom characters.
Not all of them, but you know what I mean?
Yeah, that's cool.
Yeah. So it's a large, large encompassing name.
That's fair. That's fair.
Resident Evil. I do like the Resident Evil games, but
been too much of a pussy to play any of the new ones.
I tried to play through.
Seven that biohazard, are they all called biohazard and that is the Japanese name.
I have no idea.
It's the one where he's the first first person one
of the words you're at the house and I was so scared that I fell off of my chair.
Oh, backwards.
That sucks.
Yeah.
Shouldn't bought it for me just to like listen to play it.
Yeah, just to hear your torment.
Yeah, dude.
The opening, not the opening sequence, but like the second opening sequence to Half
Life 2 after you leave the station and then you're running from the combine
and you like run through that door and trapped rather all the other doors are
closed and then you like turn around or something, open another different door
and they just kick the door in.
Well, I almost shit myself.
I had fucking I had like earbud, like the old school, like 90s when they had
the fucking little silicone, I mean, they still make them, but, you know,
the silicone time is so funny to me.
But carry on.
What do you what does that mean?
You're talking about Skullcandy Earbuds, most likely.
I mean, they might have been.
I don't know if they were Skullcandy brand, the same style.
90s earbuds.
Yeah, they were basically Skullcandy's.
Had those fuckers like jammed all the way into my fucking
both hemispheres of my brain.
Not the 90s.
No, that was definitely the 2000s.
Yeah, fuck.
Like 90s is like the 90s.
Yeah.
We had the fucking shitty padded stereo headphones.
Walkman headphones.
Yeah.
Wow.
The fucking 90s.
The 90s. Jesus.
I don't know.
Necessary topic.
I don't know if you want to do the scale on this one, the scoring that we did.
If we have to do it with every game.
It's up to you.
I just am so like, I'm so bored with this game.
We can't tell listening to this episode.
We've talked about anything.
But yeah, I've tried to avoid the subject of the game.
I really think that we covered it with the double jump.
Yep.
Yeah, there's not a lot to say about this game.
I think that.
We're going to lose some people on this one because I think Harvest Moon has
strong fan base.
I do believe also that there's a lot of Harvest Moon games and that some of them
do not have a good response from the fan base.
Well, and I was looking at like critics scores for this one.
Super mid, super mid.
This is a bad mid.
We always we've talked about in episodes about good mid.
Yeah.
This feels like a bad mid.
It's a bad mid.
And I wouldn't say terrible.
And I could see having like if you have a profound love for this game.
It might it could be enough to carry you through it.
I can also see this being a game that
we kind of touched on this on the last episode, WarioWare, where that was a game
where I felt like when you're when you're when you're getting your game collection
going and you've only got so many games to play, this is your new game that you've
bought for the week or the month or whatever you're allowed.
WarioWare, you're going to kind of get through really fast.
This one, if it's your only new game,
you know, because that's the problem with us is that we are just given so much like
here is game is free this month.
This game is three dollars right now.
This game is this
with
with this game back when it released and you're getting
less so much less games coming out at the time.
I could see it being nice to really delve into if this is your main focus.
I just couldn't make it my main focus.
I don't I don't disagree with you.
I think judging from what I know of this type of game, from what I've seen
either in a speed run or other online gameplay and from what I experienced
personally, there's a shitload of content there.
I feel like it was lacking
in some of its cohesive areas and it's and it just kind of felt a little clunky
throughout it did a little bit.
Yeah, just in terms of its pacing and whatnot.
And
and I felt like from the uninitiated
perspective, the game does not give you much to stand on in terms of like
providing instruction or direction, like it gives you the very, very basic
gist of controls of which its movements and like action.
It feels like it wants you to learn through failure.
And that's something I do really badly with video games.
I hate to go into it knowing I'm going to do this.
Probably not as well as I could do it.
You know, especially when you're playing a game that's farming.
Sim. My brain immediately goes to the only
really farming experience I have, which is RuneScape.
And it's all and that's all about like making it the best.
What's the word I'm looking for? I don't know.
You're trying to be the most efficient.
Oh, I got you. Yeah.
And so I'm thinking efficiency when I'm playing this game.
And I know I'm not going to be able to achieve that.
And
I could see because there's two safe spots, right?
So there's one for your first farm and one for your second better farm.
That's exactly the idea, I think, is that you're going to play through it and go,
oh, OK, now I know what I'm doing.
Let me start over.
And I don't like that one bit.
No, I relate to that sentiment pretty heavily.
Again, I felt like I came in with a lot of pre-knowledge.
Yeah, definitely.
And that helped me a lot.
But even still.
Comparatively, this felt pretty mid.
And again, my wide context for Harvest Moon doesn't exist.
But just from what I've seen in red,
that seems to be the general consensus,
not it, not Harvest Moon's strongest presence.
Well, that's I had played the Harvest Moon Gameboy Color game.
And I don't think I could be wrong.
I don't think that's super high ranking either on the Harvest Moon fan base.
But I liked that one almost because it was a little.
More at your pace, it didn't have that grand bizarre.
To meet and as far as I know, this is the
only game with the bizarre in it, as far as Harvest Moon goes.
Gotcha. And so
when you don't have that, it's a lot more just like
it was a lot more casual.
You're less afraid of failure because there's not like this time crunch that
you're trying to fit into with making some money at the town.
Bizarre sale thing.
I.
I feel like time passage had a big role.
Just the time.
Yikes, there was no way to skip time.
Yeah.
So if you wanted to kill a couple of hours or like jump to noon or something like
you just had to wait at the fuck out.
And then if you wanted to save in the middle of a day,
you're fucked.
Yeah, you have to sleep.
You have to sleep.
You have to end your day, which can sometimes really screw you.
If you're trying to go for the every 12 hours, you water your plants.
Yeah.
And then you're like, oh, fuck, I'm low on battery on my DS.
And I just don't have time right now.
But I also know it's going to die before I can get to it.
So I just have to eat this day.
Turns out, though, now knowing what we know,
it's not a big deal to have to have.
It's not the end of the world.
And I guess I put too much pressure on myself while playing this game.
And you don't know what you don't know, right?
Like,
the game doesn't give you any reason to assume like, oh, I should be sleeping.
I should be doing the littlest amount of work and sleeping.
You're like, I need to explore.
I need to figure things out.
Like, what am I trying to do?
Right.
And like, the reality is, it's like the beginning of the game.
There's not a whole lot you can do for it.
You're locked. You are.
You are totally locked.
Yeah. Like, like everybody's going to have
their own special events and like whatever.
And like, you can't even make the items or get a lot of the items that you need
for some of the holidays.
I'm trying to remember what they said.
The first lock comes off as like twenty five thousand or something like that.
And I don't remember what it was.
Yeah, there's different checkpoints.
Like, there's certain things that unlock as far as like and that like in items, too.
Or maybe it's a time.
I think it's mainly just time and money.
Yeah, time, time and money.
And it's money specifically made at the Grand Bazaar.
And I think it's a cumulative or maybe it's like, no, you have to sell.
It's over the time. It's over time.
Yeah, it is. Yeah.
Either way, it's the pacing is pretty slow and I felt that super hard.
Yeah, pacing was bad.
And there wasn't enough to like
the reward for going out and doing it like you can forage for stuff.
And I'm like, I'll probably need these.
And with all the time I put in, I never got to the point where I needed any
of those things, the men you need for tea, you use it for tea.
But that's about the only thing I got to.
Yeah. Did you ever get to the fishing part?
I did get the fishing.
Fishing was it was OK.
Like it wasn't.
I mean, I don't know, I didn't hate it,
but like I was hoping for like a little fishing mini game or something.
It wasn't more like Animal Crossing fishing.
We just hit the button when it takes the.
Yeah. You just see the shadows in the water.
It goes out and then one of them will fuck around your fucking bobber.
Yeah. Eventually you'll get like an exclamation
notification or like banner thing or whatever.
That's when you got a timer. Hit the button and pull it out.
Yeah. It's timing, quote unquote.
But it's like a pretty big window.
Yeah.
Well, that was our experience with Harvest Moon Grand Bazaar.
If you feel like we were totally wrong, please let us know.
I don't think it will change our opinion of it.
I mean, I'm not giving up on Harvest Moon.
I want to play another one.
No, I'm with you. I am with you.
It's got to be good, right?
I think I think this game was their eighth title.
Wow. Fifth for the DS.
Fifth for the DS.
So there's
what I call it.
There's two for one on one of the games because there's boy version and girl version.
There's one that I'm really not looking
forward to playing that I watched a playthrough of thinking I was watching
Grand Bazaar very quickly realized I'm watching the wrong game.
It's like all touch screen and it's very cutesy.
Super duper cutesy.
I mean, that doesn't sound terrible.
I like cutesy.
I mean, you'll see.
You'll see what I mean.
I'm a pretty cute boy.
All right. Yeah, we'll see.
We'll have to see.
Overall rating, we give this five out of ten.
I give it a
I give it a six.
I give it a six. I also give it like a four.
Damn.
I was just so bored of this game, dude.
I was just like,
I was really just disappointed.
I think I set my hopes way too high.
I had high hopes as well.
It wasn't as engaging as I wanted it to be.
I feel like the potential is there.
But
I don't have the patience.
Well, let me say we go ahead and do our
do our little select a wheel.
Rando's Shuffle Air.
It's not a wheel.
It's a script.
I'm sure we can find a way to make it a wheel.
Dude. Hell yeah.
Yeah, let's let's code a fucking little animation for it.
And the randomizer has landed on this is getting eerie.
Yeah, a little bit.
SNK versus Capcom Fighters DS.
I've.
Are you a big fighter game?
I've never really seen you injustice.
I feel like I remember you playing.
I did play a bit of injustice.
The Naruto fighter game.
Yeah,
love that one.
Your traditional.
Fighters not so much.
It was never really my jam.
I've played quite a bit, though.
Yeah, that's kind of I like Super Smash Bros.
Of course, as well.
It's not quite the same.
I don't think I think it's a really growing.
Yeah, it feels like it's on.
Yeah, it's not the I mean, it is quite technical,
but it's not the same.
Yeah, there's definitely a difference.
It's not a combo fighter.
Yeah, because I think I've I really enjoyed the killer instinct on the SNES.
It's fine.
We just talked about
Tekken 2 was like my jam on the PlayStation.
That was my that was the fighting game that I felt most confident in.
Soul Calibur Soul Calibur 2.
Yeah, me too.
One or two.
Two for me.
Two is on the GameCube and the PlayStation 2 and Xbox.
And one is on the Dreamcast.
One is the one that I played a lot of.
Yeah.
Yeah. My buddy Weston, he had the fucking Dreamcast.
Hell, yeah.
Yeah, dude, we got down on that.
That's awesome.
That's a fun one because of the sword.
Like, anyway, you know, you get the long staff or the sword.
You change your weapons and shit like that.
No, I know.
Is that how it is on two?
Yeah, on two, you can like build.
You can customize like what your character is wearing and they'll give you
different stat tradeoffs and like some of them like, you know,
I get a reach weapon and shit like that.
I have four.
I think it is. That was most recent one.
Yeah, on PC and yeah, they do have the customized character.
Yeah, it's pretty cool.
That's pretty sick.
No, one just has like certain characters have like a long staff.
Certain characters have shorter swords.
Yeah, they all have like different, different, different, different,
you know, what has speed has this, you know, certain tradeoffs.
Yeah.
And I can't really think of another fighter I was super into.
I've always I enjoyed.
I think I had it on the Gameboy Color, one of the Street Fighter games.
I did have a Street Fighter game.
I don't remember which one.
I think I had Street Fighter four as well for a little while.
I think I borrowed that one.
Yeah, I always wanted to get good at that game, but those games are so hard
because it's that's a really hard game to get into.
But it seemed really cool once you like,
yeah, have all the because it's about having the combos memorized and then
the response to other people's combos memorized.
I feel like like knowing how to like react to.
Yeah, you have to learn your moveset and whoever you're fighting.
Yeah.
So it ends up being everyone.
Yeah, eventually. Yeah.
So that's this one, though, being a card game.
I have no idea what we're.
That'll be that'll be interesting.
I'm wondering if it's like that Kingdom Hearts game that has cards.
You know, or did you ever play Mega Man Battle Network?
No.
It's kind of similar where it's you get this card and that's like you're you
attack with it because that's what Kingdom Hearts was right where it's like you have
like four key ones and then like you have a deck of cards and each one is your attack.
Yeah.
And then it will cycle through or something along those lines.
Yeah, it was kind of how the Mega Man one is.
OK, I'm wondering if that's what this one is or this is going to be straight up
like Pokemon card battle game.
Are you familiar with that?
Yeah, I don't.
Yeah, I don't know.
I don't either. It could go either way.
I was leaning more towards like the tabletop card style.
Yeah.
That's what you would prefer.
That's what you think.
I don't know which I would prefer.
I'd be down for either, but they're very different games.
They are.
I was just assuming that that's what it was.
But.
Yeah, we'll have to find out.
That'll be interesting.
Huh?
You said the SNK versus Capcom and I was like, oh, a fighter game.
And you're like, it's a card game.
Like, oh, yeah, it's.
I'm trying to think of what SNK is known for.
And I like I recognize the I know the name of the game.
Anything about it comes straight to mind.
No, maybe it's just like all fighting stuff.
It could be. But I think it's OK.
I think like an older, yeah, like early, early game days.
Yeah, like arcade cabinets and shit, maybe.
Right.
Yeah, we'll see. Yeah, I'm excited to find out.
My bar is low.
Relatable later card fighters.
Yeah, see you nerds.