1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:06,800 G'day leaders, have you ever felt tired and not able to perform to your peak in this podcast? 2 00:00:06,800 --> 00:00:12,360 Both Michelle and I were exhausted but we decided to do one anyway on the concept of 3 00:00:12,360 --> 00:00:14,000 riding the wave. 4 00:00:14,000 --> 00:00:20,320 So only trying to do the maximum when your energy is at the right level and giving yourself 5 00:00:20,320 --> 00:00:23,480 the opportunity to have a break when you're not, plus other things. 6 00:00:23,480 --> 00:00:24,480 Enjoy. 7 00:00:24,480 --> 00:00:25,480 Why did it count backwards? 8 00:00:25,480 --> 00:00:28,480 Oh no, we're now recording. 9 00:00:28,480 --> 00:00:29,480 What? 10 00:00:29,480 --> 00:00:30,480 Hello captain. 11 00:00:30,480 --> 00:00:31,480 Oh what do I say? 12 00:00:31,480 --> 00:00:32,480 Come fly with me, let's fly, let's fly. 13 00:00:32,480 --> 00:00:33,480 What are we going to talk about? 14 00:00:33,480 --> 00:00:34,480 I don't know. 15 00:00:34,480 --> 00:00:35,480 So leadership, life and everything else. 16 00:00:35,480 --> 00:00:36,480 Yeah. 17 00:00:36,480 --> 00:00:37,480 And we're barely alive. 18 00:00:37,480 --> 00:00:38,480 I know, I'm struggling. 19 00:00:38,480 --> 00:00:39,480 I know, that's why I said let's record a quick podcast about riding the wave. 20 00:00:39,480 --> 00:00:55,000 I'm going to do a little bit of a 21 00:00:55,000 --> 00:01:02,000 podcast about riding the wave. 22 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:04,760 Yes, you didn't have the energy and I had a little bit more energy than you but I thought 23 00:01:04,760 --> 00:01:11,480 it was a great opportunity to talk about something that I've only just started to apply to myself 24 00:01:11,480 --> 00:01:17,160 in maybe the last five or six years and that is that when your energy's up, ride the wave. 25 00:01:17,160 --> 00:01:18,600 Be productive, do stuff. 26 00:01:18,600 --> 00:01:19,600 Yes. 27 00:01:19,600 --> 00:01:23,720 But when your energy is low, give yourself a bloody break. 28 00:01:23,720 --> 00:01:24,720 Yeah. 29 00:01:24,720 --> 00:01:29,480 So I said let's go record a podcast about this and he went I'm too tired guy and I said 30 00:01:29,480 --> 00:01:33,000 it's okay, I'll do all the work. 31 00:01:33,000 --> 00:01:41,280 And that reminded me of a concept that we've both heard Brené Brown speak about how when 32 00:01:41,280 --> 00:01:45,120 in her partnership when her energy is low. 33 00:01:45,120 --> 00:01:46,120 Yes. 34 00:01:46,120 --> 00:01:47,120 Yeah. 35 00:01:47,120 --> 00:01:50,120 Her partner picks up the slack. 36 00:01:50,120 --> 00:01:53,200 And you know when his energy is low she picks up the slack. 37 00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:57,000 And so it's not like you have to be equal all the time. 38 00:01:57,000 --> 00:02:05,960 No but also when they're both low which happens because we're not at our 100% that they acknowledge 39 00:02:05,960 --> 00:02:11,680 it and go let's get takeout, let's have two minute noodles, let's just chill on the lounge 40 00:02:11,680 --> 00:02:16,160 let's you know and they actually acknowledge that they aren't low. 41 00:02:16,160 --> 00:02:20,080 And I think well we're going away. 42 00:02:20,080 --> 00:02:28,440 And it's that whole thing of we've been flat out revving, productive and now we're at that 43 00:02:28,440 --> 00:02:29,840 we're just about to go. 44 00:02:29,840 --> 00:02:38,240 We are and it's like we've still got a lot to do but it's struggling so we've just had 45 00:02:38,240 --> 00:02:39,240 some water. 46 00:02:39,240 --> 00:02:40,240 Yeah. 47 00:02:40,240 --> 00:02:44,280 But it's a concept I call ride the wave, ride your wave. 48 00:02:44,280 --> 00:02:49,640 So for years I was very driven, very goal driven, very push, push, push, push, push always 49 00:02:49,640 --> 00:02:53,240 trying to get more out you know achieve, achieve, achieve, you know all of that sort of stuff 50 00:02:53,240 --> 00:02:55,760 you do when you're young and stupid. 51 00:02:55,760 --> 00:03:01,120 But I've realised over the last you know I'm going to guess maybe five years or so that 52 00:03:01,120 --> 00:03:07,480 I have peaks and troughs with regards to my energy, with regards to my mental creativity 53 00:03:07,480 --> 00:03:12,520 and so a lot of the stuff that we do requires certain parts of your brain to be switched 54 00:03:12,520 --> 00:03:13,520 on. 55 00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:18,000 So artists call it their muse when their muse arrives and that's when they write or paint 56 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:20,880 or create music or whatever it is. 57 00:03:20,880 --> 00:03:29,040 And I've noticed that my creative energy, my logical energy, all of the different types 58 00:03:29,040 --> 00:03:35,440 of thinking that I have to use in different areas of work etc. they come in waves and 59 00:03:35,440 --> 00:03:39,600 I'm starting to become very conscious of those waves and so that I'm not pushing myself, 60 00:03:39,600 --> 00:03:44,120 I'm not trying to achieve things in low periods. 61 00:03:44,120 --> 00:03:51,320 Yeah I think I'm now thinking back to times when I've wanted to, needed to potentially 62 00:03:51,320 --> 00:04:02,440 study say for a sim or something and I become the most prolific chef. 63 00:04:02,440 --> 00:04:10,320 My house is clean, I do everything other than study and it's yeah I'm not in the right frame 64 00:04:10,320 --> 00:04:14,760 of mind which potentially I could net, sometimes I wouldn't get in the right frame of mind 65 00:04:14,760 --> 00:04:16,360 it was only when panic set in. 66 00:04:16,360 --> 00:04:22,120 Oh my goodness like that deadline thing was yeah the urgency stepped up. 67 00:04:22,120 --> 00:04:24,120 Do it! 68 00:04:24,120 --> 00:04:26,720 And that's contrary to one of the things I teach. 69 00:04:26,720 --> 00:04:27,720 I know, I know. 70 00:04:27,720 --> 00:04:31,880 That a lot of people say oh I work better under pressure, no you just simply work, it's 71 00:04:31,880 --> 00:04:34,880 the pressure that's making you work. 72 00:04:34,880 --> 00:04:36,560 You can't avoid it any longer. 73 00:04:36,560 --> 00:04:37,560 No. 74 00:04:37,560 --> 00:04:39,880 But you say you've got energy but you haven't got the right sort of energy. 75 00:04:39,880 --> 00:04:40,880 Right. 76 00:04:40,880 --> 00:04:45,200 Yeah and that's about identifying that hold on I'm just not feeling it at the moment so 77 00:04:45,200 --> 00:04:46,800 I'm going to give myself a break. 78 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:52,360 Now obviously in life you can't always choose when your waves are, you know when to ride 79 00:04:52,360 --> 00:04:55,400 which wave you've, you know you've got to get out of bed and you've got to get the kids 80 00:04:55,400 --> 00:04:59,560 ready for school or you've got to make dinner for the family or you've got to do that report 81 00:04:59,560 --> 00:05:00,880 that the boss is screaming at you for. 82 00:05:00,880 --> 00:05:02,760 So you can't always choose. 83 00:05:02,760 --> 00:05:09,800 I understand that this isn't a black and white thing but it's about identifying that whatever 84 00:05:09,800 --> 00:05:14,880 role you have, whatever you know hobbies you have, you know you're going to have peaks 85 00:05:14,880 --> 00:05:18,680 and troughs and accept those peaks and troughs and ride them. 86 00:05:18,680 --> 00:05:21,520 Ride them when they're up and have a rest when they're down. 87 00:05:21,520 --> 00:05:24,040 So don't push yourself because I used to get really hard on myself. 88 00:05:24,040 --> 00:05:25,040 Yeah. 89 00:05:25,040 --> 00:05:26,280 Yeah I used to beat myself up. 90 00:05:26,280 --> 00:05:28,880 Why you know why couldn't you be productive this week? 91 00:05:28,880 --> 00:05:30,420 Why couldn't you do that? 92 00:05:30,420 --> 00:05:34,800 And then that would get me into a bit of a spiral and then my energy would go down and 93 00:05:34,800 --> 00:05:37,200 I'd still be kicking myself a week later. 94 00:05:37,200 --> 00:05:43,800 But now, now that I've come to terms with my peaks and troughs, I'm finding that when 95 00:05:43,800 --> 00:05:49,440 I am at my peak I'm incredibly productive and when I'm at my low I just allow myself 96 00:05:49,440 --> 00:05:53,560 to you know teeter along, do with a bare minimum, do what's required. 97 00:05:53,560 --> 00:05:55,040 Nothing ever falls through the cracks. 98 00:05:55,040 --> 00:06:01,480 Like I'm not ever going to let you know an area of my life suffer greatly because of 99 00:06:01,480 --> 00:06:02,480 it. 100 00:06:02,480 --> 00:06:06,840 But yeah I just like this concept and it just came to mind when both of us were looking 101 00:06:06,840 --> 00:06:07,840 at each other this night. 102 00:06:07,840 --> 00:06:08,840 I'm exhausted. 103 00:06:08,840 --> 00:06:09,840 Yes. 104 00:06:09,840 --> 00:06:20,880 Well this week I set a goal to a challenge to myself that I wanted to edit my book. 105 00:06:20,880 --> 00:06:21,880 Yes. 106 00:06:21,880 --> 00:06:28,640 And I think there are 68 stories in there at the moment that chapters, chapters yes. 107 00:06:28,640 --> 00:06:33,240 And I was feeling today a bit like I didn't complete it. 108 00:06:33,240 --> 00:06:37,880 I did 25 which fell short of the 68. 109 00:06:37,880 --> 00:06:43,080 However I've done 25 which is I'm, I now have to go I've done 25 which is pretty good 110 00:06:43,080 --> 00:06:44,400 in a week. 111 00:06:44,400 --> 00:06:46,400 But I ran out of, I just couldn't. 112 00:06:46,400 --> 00:06:47,400 Thinking juice. 113 00:06:47,400 --> 00:06:48,400 Yeah I couldn't. 114 00:06:48,400 --> 00:06:49,400 I'm like no. 115 00:06:49,400 --> 00:06:50,400 Yeah. 116 00:06:50,400 --> 00:06:53,680 I call it talking juice when I can't talk and thinking juice when I can't think. 117 00:06:53,680 --> 00:06:54,680 Yeah. 118 00:06:54,680 --> 00:06:58,760 Yeah but if you look at the way that book has been written, it's been written on the 119 00:06:58,760 --> 00:06:59,760 peak of the waves. 120 00:06:59,760 --> 00:07:00,760 Yes. 121 00:07:00,760 --> 00:07:01,760 And it had pauses on the lows. 122 00:07:01,760 --> 00:07:02,760 Yeah. 123 00:07:02,760 --> 00:07:08,680 And actually the lows they're sitting with it and just kind of observing life and not 124 00:07:08,680 --> 00:07:15,760 actually producing gave me then started to fill me with creative juices and a different, 125 00:07:15,760 --> 00:07:20,880 possibly a different way of thinking about it rather than how I was just you know turning 126 00:07:20,880 --> 00:07:21,880 through. 127 00:07:21,880 --> 00:07:23,960 Do you know how Albert Einstein used that? 128 00:07:23,960 --> 00:07:24,960 No. 129 00:07:24,960 --> 00:07:29,640 So he used to, he knew that there was a certain wakeness state. 130 00:07:29,640 --> 00:07:30,640 Yes. 131 00:07:30,640 --> 00:07:36,000 That his best creativity, best thinking would come from and so and I believe quite a few 132 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:38,800 people I've only ever heard about Albert doing this. 133 00:07:38,800 --> 00:07:41,080 My mate Albert you know. 134 00:07:41,080 --> 00:07:42,080 Al. 135 00:07:42,080 --> 00:07:43,080 Al. 136 00:07:43,080 --> 00:07:45,040 Yeah how'd you know that's what I call him. 137 00:07:45,040 --> 00:07:48,600 Anyway he used to have naps right in his office. 138 00:07:48,600 --> 00:07:51,200 He'd hold his keys in his hand. 139 00:07:51,200 --> 00:07:52,200 Yeah. 140 00:07:52,200 --> 00:07:55,240 He would lie down on his credenza or is that a word credenza? 141 00:07:55,240 --> 00:07:57,240 No isn't that a sideboard, a credenza? 142 00:07:57,240 --> 00:07:58,240 Yeah okay. 143 00:07:58,240 --> 00:07:59,240 You know what's a sideboard? 144 00:07:59,240 --> 00:08:00,240 Chez Lange. 145 00:08:00,240 --> 00:08:05,520 He'd lie down on his couch, basically have his hand hanging over the edge of the couch 146 00:08:05,520 --> 00:08:13,920 over a saucepan and so he'd start to go to sleep but then as he fell into you know he's 147 00:08:13,920 --> 00:08:17,800 just about to fall into deep sleep his hand would open, the keys would drop, they'd make 148 00:08:17,800 --> 00:08:19,320 a big sound, they'd wake him up. 149 00:08:19,320 --> 00:08:24,720 He'd then get up and in that state he came up with his best ideas. 150 00:08:24,720 --> 00:08:27,760 I hope it was Albert Einstein that's what I read on the internet and everything on the 151 00:08:27,760 --> 00:08:28,760 internet is true. 152 00:08:28,760 --> 00:08:29,760 Must be true. 153 00:08:29,760 --> 00:08:34,320 Yeah it's about you knowing your peaks and troughs and when do you perform at your peak, 154 00:08:34,320 --> 00:08:35,320 what do you need to do? 155 00:08:35,320 --> 00:08:36,320 Yeah. 156 00:08:36,320 --> 00:08:39,480 Yeah like at the moment I'm getting up early in the morning, the first thing I do is have 157 00:08:39,480 --> 00:08:42,200 a cold shower to wake myself up. 158 00:08:42,200 --> 00:08:44,840 If you haven't looked into cold showers look into it. 159 00:08:44,840 --> 00:08:49,600 But that feeling afterwards, the dopamine rush when your liver is releasing the cold 160 00:08:49,600 --> 00:08:54,300 shock proteins apparently to fight off oxidative stress and I don't know what else it does 161 00:08:54,300 --> 00:08:59,240 but my brain becomes extremely clear and that's when I like to do stuff that requires my 162 00:08:59,240 --> 00:09:00,240 brain. 163 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:04,360 Yeah but the same sort of activities in the afternoon when I'm you know in my lull, in 164 00:09:04,360 --> 00:09:06,520 my down, that's just useless. 165 00:09:06,520 --> 00:09:14,800 Yeah I actually am now thinking about whenever I'm doing a painting and I become hyper focused 166 00:09:14,800 --> 00:09:21,880 on the painting sometimes it means meals, mealtimes, go, come and go. 167 00:09:21,880 --> 00:09:26,000 But is that you just not knowing the time or you just so in the moment? 168 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:31,160 Yeah possibly so in the moment but I and also I do get hyper focused and it's like I can't 169 00:09:31,160 --> 00:09:39,000 do anything else other than some mornings I have got up at 2.30 or 3 o'clock because 170 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:41,920 I'm thinking about it and I get up and I paint so. 171 00:09:41,920 --> 00:09:42,920 Oh how cool. 172 00:09:42,920 --> 00:09:43,920 But yeah. 173 00:09:43,920 --> 00:09:45,760 And your paintings are awesome. 174 00:09:45,760 --> 00:09:47,600 Well I don't do it very often now. 175 00:09:47,600 --> 00:09:48,600 Oh well. 176 00:09:48,600 --> 00:09:49,600 So that's fine. 177 00:09:49,600 --> 00:09:55,120 Your life has evolved you know international keynote speaker, TED talker, author, you've 178 00:09:55,120 --> 00:09:58,160 got a lot going on Michelle to fit in you know exhibiting artists. 179 00:09:58,160 --> 00:10:04,040 You used to be an exhibiting artist and have big, big, what do you call it? 180 00:10:04,040 --> 00:10:05,040 Exhibitions. 181 00:10:05,040 --> 00:10:07,440 Exhibitions that's the word. 182 00:10:07,440 --> 00:10:13,040 So what we're talking about here is based on so if it's a daily thing rather than maybe 183 00:10:13,040 --> 00:10:16,000 a weekly or monthly thing where you ride the wave of productivity. 184 00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:19,620 So if it's a daily thing it's based on what's called your chronotype. 185 00:10:19,620 --> 00:10:24,340 Your chronotype is a concept I read about years ago where about 40% of the population 186 00:10:24,340 --> 00:10:25,340 are morning people. 187 00:10:25,340 --> 00:10:27,760 So their brain is at its peak in the morning. 188 00:10:27,760 --> 00:10:31,600 30% of the population are at their peak in the middle of the day and then you get your 189 00:10:31,600 --> 00:10:32,600 night owls. 190 00:10:32,600 --> 00:10:35,480 These are the people that can work late into the evenings but you just wouldn't ask them 191 00:10:35,480 --> 00:10:36,680 questions in the morning. 192 00:10:36,680 --> 00:10:37,680 Yeah. 193 00:10:37,680 --> 00:10:38,680 They're not morning people. 194 00:10:38,680 --> 00:10:39,680 But I'm a morning person. 195 00:10:39,680 --> 00:10:40,680 I am too. 196 00:10:40,680 --> 00:10:47,960 So my brain's peak is definitely in the morning and so what we teach in the productivity course 197 00:10:47,960 --> 00:10:53,200 is that you should always focus on the more difficult, challenging, brain thinky tasks 198 00:10:53,200 --> 00:10:54,200 in the morning. 199 00:10:54,200 --> 00:10:58,360 So I always try and work on any development work. 200 00:10:58,360 --> 00:11:02,680 So if I'm building training material, training resources, editing, whatever it is, if it 201 00:11:02,680 --> 00:11:06,920 requires me to concentrate I'll do that in the morning but my afternoons are for admin, 202 00:11:06,920 --> 00:11:08,080 easy stuff. 203 00:11:08,080 --> 00:11:14,520 And so if you can start to think about when is your brain able to concentrate during the 204 00:11:14,520 --> 00:11:15,520 day? 205 00:11:15,520 --> 00:11:16,520 When are you at your peak? 206 00:11:16,520 --> 00:11:19,120 When can you really get into the zone? 207 00:11:19,120 --> 00:11:22,680 Although research says nobody's getting into the zone anymore because of all these digital 208 00:11:22,680 --> 00:11:23,680 distractions. 209 00:11:23,680 --> 00:11:28,120 But if you concentrate and you're in your peak in the morning then focus on your more 210 00:11:28,120 --> 00:11:32,320 difficult, more challenging or even the stuff that drives your creativity. 211 00:11:32,320 --> 00:11:37,160 Do that when you're at your peak rather than trying to slog it out when you're not. 212 00:11:37,160 --> 00:11:39,920 Okay, I'm going to challenge this. 213 00:11:39,920 --> 00:11:42,800 That's all fine and dandy in a perfect world. 214 00:11:42,800 --> 00:11:43,800 There is no such thing as a perfect world. 215 00:11:43,800 --> 00:11:44,800 That's right. 216 00:11:44,800 --> 00:11:48,160 But in a perfect workplace where you can do that. 217 00:11:48,160 --> 00:11:56,640 So coming from shift work as I have, it doesn't always work and often there are high levels 218 00:11:56,640 --> 00:12:00,960 of brain juice required. 219 00:12:00,960 --> 00:12:04,920 As you can tell I'm not at my peak right now because I can't think of the words. 220 00:12:04,920 --> 00:12:07,080 But you've got to be on. 221 00:12:07,080 --> 00:12:08,080 So what did you do? 222 00:12:08,080 --> 00:12:12,000 You're a pilot, you're flying internationally, you've got people behind you who you're responsible 223 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:13,000 for. 224 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:14,000 What do you do in those situations? 225 00:12:14,000 --> 00:12:20,760 Well, we were taught to, you know, your coffee naps, so that's the adenosine in your brain 226 00:12:20,760 --> 00:12:23,240 which is like the filter, the cotton wool. 227 00:12:23,240 --> 00:12:31,840 If you have a coffee and then have a nap straight away, potentially when you're low workload, 228 00:12:31,840 --> 00:12:34,720 then 20 minutes is all you need. 229 00:12:34,720 --> 00:12:42,560 By that time the adenosine will have dissipated and the caffeine gets straight like has the 230 00:12:42,560 --> 00:12:43,560 process. 231 00:12:43,560 --> 00:12:45,960 I've heard about caffeine naps, I didn't know that was going on. 232 00:12:45,960 --> 00:12:50,360 Yeah, so it's 20 naps, you have to really have to make sure it's only 20 minutes, not 233 00:12:50,360 --> 00:12:51,360 20 naps. 234 00:12:51,360 --> 00:12:56,120 Well that's the active time of, that's when caffeine wakes you up. 235 00:12:56,120 --> 00:12:57,120 Yeah. 236 00:12:57,120 --> 00:12:59,800 So that's how we would manage that. 237 00:12:59,800 --> 00:13:03,080 Having rest if you could. 238 00:13:03,080 --> 00:13:07,960 I generally couldn't because I was on the 737, we didn't have a crew rest area, it was 239 00:13:07,960 --> 00:13:12,840 you rest in your seat and there were rules around it, company rules around how long the 240 00:13:12,840 --> 00:13:16,600 flight had to be and all these sorts of things. 241 00:13:16,600 --> 00:13:18,440 So that didn't always work. 242 00:13:18,440 --> 00:13:19,440 Of course. 243 00:13:19,440 --> 00:13:25,360 Water, have lots of water to wake you up and then get to sleep when you could. 244 00:13:25,360 --> 00:13:33,320 But again, shift work, you'd have four days on and we were speaking to some doctors the 245 00:13:33,320 --> 00:13:34,320 other night. 246 00:13:34,320 --> 00:13:35,320 That's right. 247 00:13:35,320 --> 00:13:38,560 And they have a similar experience, you have say four days on. 248 00:13:38,560 --> 00:13:40,840 They had seven, wasn't it? 249 00:13:40,840 --> 00:13:41,840 Seven days on? 250 00:13:41,840 --> 00:13:47,960 They had seven, so in my shift for example, if my roster would have four days on and it 251 00:13:47,960 --> 00:13:53,760 would be three earlys, so you are awake or getting up at say three o'clock in the morning, 252 00:13:53,760 --> 00:14:02,960 three thirty in the morning and then the last day of your four day roster, it would be coming 253 00:14:02,960 --> 00:14:06,520 in for the red eye, like not the red eye, the curfew chase or something. 254 00:14:06,520 --> 00:14:11,720 So you'd be doing a late flight, which is when the last previous three days you've been 255 00:14:11,720 --> 00:14:12,720 in bed asleep. 256 00:14:12,720 --> 00:14:15,120 So you'd be taxing on your body as a pilot. 257 00:14:15,120 --> 00:14:16,120 Yeah, yeah. 258 00:14:16,120 --> 00:14:20,800 I'd never thought about it from that perspective, how challenging it would be, you know, constantly 259 00:14:20,800 --> 00:14:22,960 battling your own bio rhythms and stuff like that. 260 00:14:22,960 --> 00:14:24,800 Well, yeah, doctors are the same. 261 00:14:24,800 --> 00:14:25,800 Anyone. 262 00:14:25,800 --> 00:14:27,800 I'm feeling very fortunate now. 263 00:14:27,800 --> 00:14:35,240 I go to work, talk on stage or run a workshop and then I'm leaving, still when my brain's 264 00:14:35,240 --> 00:14:36,240 peaking. 265 00:14:36,240 --> 00:14:37,240 Absolutely. 266 00:14:37,240 --> 00:14:38,240 Yeah. 267 00:14:38,240 --> 00:14:39,240 Yeah. 268 00:14:39,240 --> 00:14:43,880 Well, I don't have any any tips for shift workers, unfortunately. 269 00:14:43,880 --> 00:14:50,000 I do remember in uni taking a job in a service station where I did the midnight shift. 270 00:14:50,000 --> 00:14:52,760 I did it once. 271 00:14:52,760 --> 00:14:53,760 I quit the next day. 272 00:14:53,760 --> 00:14:54,760 I couldn't do it. 273 00:14:54,760 --> 00:14:55,760 I couldn't stay awake. 274 00:14:55,760 --> 00:15:00,280 I was on my feet sleeping and I woke up, I hit my head against the display case behind 275 00:15:00,280 --> 00:15:01,280 me. 276 00:15:01,280 --> 00:15:02,280 Like it was no one coming. 277 00:15:02,280 --> 00:15:03,280 Hey, can I have petrol please? 278 00:15:03,280 --> 00:15:04,280 Why are you sleeping? 279 00:15:04,280 --> 00:15:05,280 I couldn't do it. 280 00:15:05,280 --> 00:15:06,280 I really couldn't do it. 281 00:15:06,280 --> 00:15:11,560 My brain just wouldn't allow me and I said to the guy the next day, he was a lovely man. 282 00:15:11,560 --> 00:15:15,120 He owned the petrol station and he couldn't get anyone to do that shift. 283 00:15:15,120 --> 00:15:16,120 No one. 284 00:15:16,120 --> 00:15:17,400 And he was sick of doing it himself. 285 00:15:17,400 --> 00:15:19,240 And I said to him, I'm so sorry. 286 00:15:19,240 --> 00:15:22,160 I fell asleep about 10 times and he said, that's okay. 287 00:15:22,160 --> 00:15:24,200 I can't find anyone. 288 00:15:24,200 --> 00:15:25,440 He went back to doing it himself. 289 00:15:25,440 --> 00:15:29,360 And I remember actually filling up there one night and I walked in there and he looked 290 00:15:29,360 --> 00:15:30,360 at me. 291 00:15:30,360 --> 00:15:33,360 You don't want to do it again. 292 00:15:33,360 --> 00:15:34,360 Yeah. 293 00:15:34,360 --> 00:15:35,600 So I'm sorry to those listening who are on shift work. 294 00:15:35,600 --> 00:15:37,520 I don't have any answers for you. 295 00:15:37,520 --> 00:15:42,840 But yeah, that's a challenge. 296 00:15:42,840 --> 00:15:48,480 So the productivity thing that we're talking about, I suppose, is the fact that we've been 297 00:15:48,480 --> 00:15:54,400 driving ourselves going hard, riding that wave, the peak, and now coming off the other 298 00:15:54,400 --> 00:15:58,200 side, it's just one foot in front of the other. 299 00:15:58,200 --> 00:16:03,280 And then just acknowledging that you need a little bit of downtime to recuperate, recharge 300 00:16:03,280 --> 00:16:04,280 and then come back again. 301 00:16:04,280 --> 00:16:09,320 So we need to be kind to ourselves, kind to our partners and talk to each other. 302 00:16:09,320 --> 00:16:12,040 So you check in with your partner, say, hey, where are you at today? 303 00:16:12,040 --> 00:16:14,680 And if they say, I'm at a three, you say, well, I'm going to pick up the slack. 304 00:16:14,680 --> 00:16:18,240 And if they say, I'm at a nine, can you pick up the slack? 305 00:16:18,240 --> 00:16:19,720 I'm operating on a two. 306 00:16:19,720 --> 00:16:20,720 Yeah. 307 00:16:20,720 --> 00:16:23,560 We've got to be kind to ourselves and kind to our partners and ride the wave when we've 308 00:16:23,560 --> 00:16:27,720 got it and accept and enjoy the lols when you're in them. 309 00:16:27,720 --> 00:16:29,080 Yes. 310 00:16:29,080 --> 00:16:31,120 And maybe you're not bollinger to pick yourself up. 311 00:16:31,120 --> 00:16:35,120 I still haven't gotten in touch with this and I don't think that's going to pick you 312 00:16:35,120 --> 00:16:36,120 back up. 313 00:16:36,120 --> 00:16:37,120 That's probably going to put you to sleep. 314 00:16:37,120 --> 00:16:38,840 But Lint might give you a short amount of energy. 315 00:16:38,840 --> 00:16:43,240 See, we're kind of sponsoring these companies and they don't even know about us. 316 00:16:43,240 --> 00:16:45,120 We're asking them to sponsor us. 317 00:16:45,120 --> 00:16:48,760 At least Bose is letting us hear each other while we're talking. 318 00:16:48,760 --> 00:16:49,760 Yeah. 319 00:16:49,760 --> 00:16:50,760 Yeah. 320 00:16:50,760 --> 00:16:51,760 Anyway, Car Wash Kid, thank you very much. 321 00:16:51,760 --> 00:16:52,760 More dogs. 322 00:16:52,760 --> 00:16:53,760 Ride the wave, Michelle. 323 00:16:53,760 --> 00:16:54,760 That's it. 324 00:16:54,760 --> 00:16:55,760 That's it. 325 00:16:55,760 --> 00:16:56,760 See ya. 326 00:16:56,760 --> 00:16:57,760 Bye. 327 00:16:57,760 --> 00:16:58,760 Well, that was fun. 328 00:16:58,760 --> 00:16:59,760 That was fun. 329 00:16:59,760 --> 00:17:02,760 You're such a clown. 330 00:17:02,760 --> 00:17:05,760 Lady captain. 331 00:17:05,760 --> 00:17:07,760 And who's going to listen to this? 332 00:17:07,760 --> 00:17:08,760 Maybe our nums. 333 00:17:08,760 --> 00:17:32,760 I don't know.