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G'day, leaders. In this episode, we talk about goals and routines. We discuss why goals don't

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create happiness. They're important, they give you direction, but they don't create happiness.

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And we talk about routines and some of our favorite routines. Enjoy.

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Why do it count backwards? Are they? We're now recording.

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What? Hello, captain.

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What do I say? Come fly with me, let's fly, let's fly.

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What are we going to talk about? I don't know. So, leadership, life and everything else.

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Yeah. And we're live.

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No, we're recording. That was a good one, that one.

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Yeah, okay. I can see in the middle of a boxing ring with that one. Michelle, I need you.

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We had this moment this morning. In the pool.

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In the pool, we went for a swim and Michelle said, I need you. I said, I'm here for you.

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And she said, no, I need you. I said, I'm here for you. I said, she said, no, I need you. I said,

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I'm always here for you. And she said, no, I hit you with my knee. I hadn't even noticed.

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We are absolute lunatics. We laugh at the smallest thing.

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Yeah, okay. And all we'd have is coffee. Yes, exactly. And we're still having it now.

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Yes. Yes. Hey, Michelle.

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Hi, Guy. What are we talking about today?

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Excuse me. So one thing I wanted to talk about was at your last keynote that I was in the audience

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for, you were talking about how goals are not the key to happiness. Can you explain that?

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Yeah, I learned this. Oh, cracky voice this one. Excuse me. I learned this from a cartoonist,

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you know, the Dilbert comic. Scott Adams, the cartoonist who does the Dilbert comic.

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I read it. He said this, that goals don't create happiness. And I now agree. The more I've looked

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at it, the more I've looked at this quote and the way he thinks about it is, yeah, it's really quite

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accurate. So when I was young, I was a very goal-driven man, you know, you were too. You

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wanted to be a pilot and you got there eventually through all of those hurdles. And I had all these

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goals that I wanted to achieve in my life. At one point in time, something triggered me and I started

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to set all these goals. I had all these goals and working towards these goals. But Scott Adams

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pointed out that goals don't create happiness. The reason why they don't create happiness is

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because 99.9% of the time you're not there. They're in the future. They're at some point

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in the future. And so when you spend a lot of energy focusing on the future, as we've discussed

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before, time starts to speed up. Not in the present. No, you're not in the present. You're

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trying to drag the future towards you. And you get into this mindset, I'll be happy when.

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I'll be happy when. I'll be happy when. No, you won't because when never happens, you get there.

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You already move past it. Now you've got to be happy. You've got to set another goal. You've

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got to redirect. So goals don't create happiness because you're not there. And you get into this

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mindset, I'll be happy when. So you want to bring the future towards you quicker. So which means

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you're not in the present. You're not in the moment. And all they do is create direction.

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Yeah. So could you reframe it as purpose? Like a goal gives you purpose and a direction, not

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the final outcome. So it's the enjoying the journey and being in the journey rather than

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that the goal is everything. Yeah. I guess we've all heard this before. It's the journey that

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matters, not the destination, all that sort of stuff. But that's the problem with goals is that

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they don't tell you that the goals are there to help you make decisions and move towards them and

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give you direction. But they, excuse me, straight of my note, I sound like Barry White. You swallowed

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a lot of pool water. I did swallow too much pool water this morning. So the goals give you direction,

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but they don't give you, it's not where happiness lies. It actually made me think about a couple of

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guys, and I'm saying guys, meaning the group of pilots, that all they were interested in was

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getting into an airline, typically Qantas or going overseas. And so all of the general aviation

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flying that they did, they hated because the goal was so many hours so that they could then apply

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and get into Qantas or get into another airline. And which was really sad because some of my best

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flying was in general aviation and being in shitty little aircraft and ones that had things

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missing and obviously not engines or wings, but instruments missing or you got to fly and

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contour fly or chat with people or go fast, go slow, stall, whatever. That was some of the great

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flying. And these people that just hated it and turned up begrudgingly just to get the hours to

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then get to the airlines. I would love to be able to ask them, are you happy now? And did you find

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happiness once you got into? What a great example. Yeah, I love that. Because we've often spoken

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about how you had this, I'm not sure who gave you the mindset, either you could fly a thousand,

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a hundred hours or a thousand hours. So I was told, because quite often when you did

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freight flying or charter flying, even instructing that you could do one hour a thousand times. So

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that is just going there and do the same thing over and over and over or a thousand hours each.

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So every time mix it up, look for something else, be curious like we discussed in a previous podcast

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and look at different ways to fly that route, different altitudes, different power settings.

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Did you have that choice? You could actually have different routes, you could fly different

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altitudes and stuff. You could kind of, not airline flying, but you could. And also it just

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gave you, you looked out the window and you saw landmarks that you may not have noticed before.

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So it was just mixing it up. So you're flying in the present rather than with a goal to get to

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an airline. Absolutely, because the weather's not the same always and the fuel load, the payload

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weren't the same. So just try different things safely obviously, but it gave you your envelope

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of comfort expanded. And I'd guess, this is just a guess, that those pilots that were just aiming

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to become an airline captain or an airline first officer or whatever and they hated the path to

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get there, that creates a pattern. Yes. Right. And then when they're actually there, how do they

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then suddenly switch into happiness? Oh, I'm a pilot, look at me. I think I've actually mentioned

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this previously that what do you call a group of pilots? A winch. So it wasn't fun to hang out in

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the crew room sometimes. Okay, so goals don't create happiness, they just give us direction,

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which is important in life. That's right. But we've discovered a way that as part of the journey,

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to ensure happiness and ease throughout your life, throughout your day, even when things

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aren't going so great. That's it. You don't focus on goals, you focus on your routines.

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So what you do every day is going to be the determiner. Determiner, is that even a term?

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The determinator. That will determine the quality of your life.

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I just reminded of a quote I like, if a man knows not what harbour he seeks, any wind is the right

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wind. So goals don't create happiness, but they're very important because they give you the direction

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that you're going to head in life. You don't just wander aimlessly, but they're not where

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happiness lies. Where happiness lies is in routines. Yeah. It's what you do every day.

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That's right. And this is what Scott Adams was saying, the Dilbert comic, that if you focus on

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little things that you do every day that bring pleasure into your life, that's where happiness

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lies. Yeah. And so you and I both have very strong routines, don't we? We do. We do. We listen to

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experts. That's right. And I think if you can tie it to something, so we're teaching the kids at

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the moment that when you tie it, link it to something else. So we used to have action flows

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and in the aircraft so that if you forgot one thing, you had muscle memory basically. Yeah.

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And we're helping the kids build this by creating routines and attaching something to something,

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like to a previous action. So trigger the routine, to trigger habits. Yeah. So we,

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first thing, cuddle. Yeah. The very first thing, cuddle. Yeah. When you wake up in the morning.

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Because it raises oxytocin levels. Yeah. Yeah. So let's go through all of our routines. Hugging.

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We're both voracious huggers. Yes. We hug as many people as we can because-

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Neighbours, friends. Neighbours, friends. Yeah. Oh, I had a great hug the other day. I was

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coming home from work and one of our neighbours had been overseas and he was standing there talking

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to another neighbour of ours and I said, oh, this is my opportunity. So I ran up and I gave them both

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a big hug and immediately you feel better because your body is much better. And so I was like,

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immediately you feel better because your body produces oxytocin. We've discussed oxytocin,

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haven't we? I think we have. In another podcast. I know we speak about it all the time, but if you

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don't know, oxytocin is the hormone that's released into your body when you're feeling love and it

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helps you feel connection. And it's the happy chemical, the love drug, the moral molecule,

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the empathy chem- it's got lots of nicknames, but it's a feel-good chemical and mothers get a big

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rush of it when they give birth. Yes. So they'll bond with the child. So hugging is in our routine

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every day. So we hug, then roll out of bed and make the bed. So if you're one of those people

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that like I was when I was a young man, when you get out of bed in the morning, make the bed.

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Why do we make the bed? So that we can feel like we've achieved something and if we've achieved

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nothing else, at least you have a made bed in the evening. There's a famous video on the internet

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about this, isn't there? Yeah. Because when you make the bed, you get a hit of dopamine, the reward

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chemical. And what you shouldn't do, which is what the majority of people do, and I constantly,

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constantly talk to people about this, don't grab your phone first thing in the morning. No. Yeah,

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this is all over the internet. Well, what we actually, I missed a step because we do breath

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work. Yes. So wake up, have a hug, then do breath work. And people are now getting the picture there.

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Do breath work. Yeah. Three to four rounds. Yeah. So we do Wim Hof breath work. Yep. Yep. So did the

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Wim Hof course quite a few years ago now. Fell in love with this man. He's just the most amazing

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man. But if you've never done breath work, it's you breathe powerfully into your stomach, your chest,

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and then into your head. Like that's a power breath. You do that 30 or 40 times. You oxygenate

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your blood, but then on the 30th, 40th or 50th breath, depending on how long you want to go for,

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you just blow out all of your air. So you've got no air in your lungs and then just hold your breath.

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Mm. We can do it just over three minutes. What do you experience when you do it?

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So I generally go into a meditative state and I find that when I do that, I can, my breath hold

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lasts longer. If I'm thinking in my head about holding my breath, I start to feel like I need

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to take a breath. So I do a body scan and start at my toes and anything that's hurting or I'm

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feeling pressure or anything really, I just work on the breath there, the oxygen that I'm imagining

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in my blood being directed to there and then work my way back up my body to my head. I have fallen

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asleep sometimes. I've started snoring. And then it can become almost like I'd imagine hallucination.

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Yeah, I've seen psychedelic colors in my mind when I'm doing the breath hold. So 30 or 40 power

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breaths and then making sure that you're not blowing the air out. So you're not hyperventilating. So

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you're just releasing. So you're not actually pushing it out. And then that breath hold and

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in that breath hold, it's such a beautiful meditative state, isn't it? But then when you

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desperately need to breathe in, don't. You keep holding until your body starts to shake a little

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bit because then what happens is you get a dump of adrenaline into your body. And adrenaline is very,

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very healthy for humans. So my routine will always involve trying to get adrenaline into my body

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artificially through breath hold because when your adrenaline goes up, your immunity goes up, it

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triggers your immune system and a bunch of other things. It's actually quite a healthy thing.

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I learned adrenaline. And then when you desperately need to breathe, you then breathe in and hold it

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for 15 seconds, squeezing the air up into your head. And that's another explosion of color and

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vision that happens with eyes closed also when you get that oxygen hit. And then so then after

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we've done that, we three or four rounds, three or four rounds. That's right. Then we roll out of bed,

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make the bed. Yeah. Cause if you grab your phone first thing, which a lot of people do,

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your brain's getting a hit of dopamine, the reward chemical from the phone.

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And now your brain thinks, oh, that's where dopamine comes from. So you can start grabbing

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your phone, you start swapping and scrolling and it's, it's not a very healthy thing. Emails can

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wait. Yes, exactly. And that Instagram post doesn't really need to be looked at the first

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thing in the morning. No, that's right. You don't want to train your brain that you get dopamine

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from it, from the phone. You want to train your brain that you get dopamine from activities that

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are value, like making your bed, whatever it is. Well, then we grab, we have some lemon water. Yes.

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We squeeze some salt if we, if we think of it, squeeze, squeeze a lemon into water and then drink

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a large, large glass of water or more. Cause when you sleep, you dehydrate. Yeah. Then we go for a

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walk and up hills backwards. Cause we've got dodgy knees. We read somewhere that it helps your knees.

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So my mate Brett knows about my knees. He had to carry my stuff, some of my stuff across

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Tasmania cause my knees blew out. Yeah. And a big hike and I showed that to Brett, the,

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the legend that he is. Um, yeah. So we walked backwards up, up hills and it's done wonders for

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our knees. If you've got bad knees, walk backwards up hills. Yeah. It's hard. And there are some steep

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hills around where we live and then, uh, home to you make the world's best coffee. Thank you. So

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we sit on the front veranda, read a book, read a book, have coffee, each read a different book.

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Yeah. And we often start talking to each other because you've read something in the book and

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you want to tell you, Hey, have you heard this? That's right. Yeah. And what do you think about

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this? And that's, that's magic that time, 20 to 30 minutes of just reading every morning with a

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coffee, sitting at the front, saying hi to neighbors that are walking past. There's one particular

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neighbor and I don't know if he does it now as a challenge, but he runs to the ferry at the end

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of the street and we watch and he's got young kids and we think, okay, he was running late,

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but every day now he runs to the, in his suit. And it's like, maybe one or two minutes earlier.

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I want to talk about somebody with a coffee in the book. Yes. Phil Goldson. Ah, yes. We met him in

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Darwin. So Phil Goldson was the beautiful man who brought the international men's day to Australia

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over 20 years ago, I think under just on 20 years ago. Yeah. It was a while back. Yep. Okay. And

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Phil was at the men's forum that I spoke at up in, up in Darwin and the most gorgeous human being,

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like isn't he the present, his presence. Like I collect heroes. He's now a new one of mine.

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Yep. Um, but yeah, he says that he and his wife, he still hasn't perfected the coffee for his wife,

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but they sit down and they have a coffee and, and read a book and, um, they call them gold nuggets.

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Yeah. Which is great. Golden nuggets throughout your day. And he was saying that he plants them

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because he has previously suffered from depression and he told the audience, all of the wonderful men

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that were in the audience, how it never truly goes away. It's always in the background. However,

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if you set yourself up for success every day by having these nuggets, even when he's low,

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he's got that to look forward to. And again, because that's tied to happiness for him,

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it can then either nullify, like neutralize the, the, the low feeling, um, and then start to give

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him purpose throughout the day. He's doing something intentionally to fight off the effects of depression

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through activities that bring dope in me and serotonin and all of the feel good chemicals.

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So he spoke about how he looked forward to making this coffee. I have the same feeling

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when I'm sitting there at the coffee machine and I'm trying to do the fancy patterns in the milk,

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I'm thinking, Oh, what's he going to think about this? It's like looking for pictures in clouds.

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It brings great joy to me to feel like I'm doing something for another person when I'm making them

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a beautiful coffee and then sitting there reading a book and discussing that book and just checking

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in. I love being the recipient of your coffee art. I will make coffee for you whenever you want one.

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Thank you. Yeah. Yeah. And then, um, the next thing that's in my routine, uh, and I've encouraged so

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many people to do this, but so many people look at me, get, nah, not doing that one, a cold shower.

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shower. And if you haven't looked up Wim Hof yet, if you haven't heard of Wim Hof, where have you

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been? Um, but I did his course years ago now. And so you have a, you have a warm shower. And then at

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the end, take a big deep breath, turn all the hot off, all the cold on. And as the cold water hits

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your forehead, breathe out and relax. And what happens is your body will start to release cold

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shock proteins, which, which fight off the effects of stress and inflammation. And it's incredibly

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healthy for you. And when you get out of that shower, out of that cold shower, and especially

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in winter, winter is so good for this. You feel alive. Your body starts to heat itself back up

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again. You get these, this rush of dopamine. Your brain is clearer than it's ever been before. And

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you feel like you're radiating heat. You've just got out of a cold shower, but you feel like you're

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radiating heat. And a lot of people go, Oh, I could never do that. But they're focusing on

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that initial feeling of the cold water hitting them. But they're not focusing on how they're

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going to feel when they get out of the shower. And I keep saying, just do it, just do it once or twice.

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And when, when you get to the third time, your body will be craving for this.

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Well, we watched that Netflix special with the kids and it was Chris Hensworth. Yeah. And he was

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doing the cold, the swimming. And we do cold plunge occasionally at the skin bar in Roselle.

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That's right. Yes. The bath house. So, um, that I struggle with the cold shower. And however,

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the kids have all started doing the cold showers now. And I'm thinking, okay, if they can do it,

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I can do it. Every single person that I've recommended it to that has done it has said

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it's changed their life. Well, I enjoyed it when we were in Darwin because it was the cold water.

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It's not cold. Darwin water is not cold. I'm so sorry, Darwin. You cannot do this. You've got to

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go and get your ice bags from the server and throw them in the bath. But York showers, like

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pure cold in Darwin is like our warm in Sydney. I didn't mind those cold showers in Darwin.

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I felt like I was a hero. That's your definition of cold, Michelle. We need to talk about temperature.

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I pumped myself up there. It's like, yes, I'm doing cold showers. Yeah. You're sitting in a lukewarm

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cold. Yeah. It's like the pool. Yeah. But at the skin, shout out to Sam and Matt at the skin bar.

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Yes, they're not sponsors. No, but they're the friends of ours. We go up to the skin bar in

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Roselle and do our ice bath. They've got two baths. Yes. Two degrees and five degrees. I go the five

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degree. I do the two. Yes. You're a psychopath. Now. Yeah. I started in the five. Yeah. It's the

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amount of, oh, feel good, everything after doing the ice bath, two rounds of the ice bath. That's

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extraordinary. Wow. Yeah. My productivity goes through the roof. Yeah. It's just my mental clarity.

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Yeah. Yeah. That's right. I can go through data and fire off emails. So if you think about three

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minutes of what people perceive to be pain, it's not pain now for me. My body now screams at me to

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do it. I love it. But you get into the cold water, you slow your breathing down, you connect your

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mind to your body and you just sit there for three minutes. You get out of that cold bath.

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That's two degrees. You're in iced water. And then when your body starts to heat itself back up,

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the dump of dopamine that comes into your body then stays in there for two hours is extraordinary.

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bath. It sounds a bit silly, but it is that clarity of mind, but also just that feeling of calm and

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peace. And so rather than being up in my throat and in the top of my chest with energy, it is

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very calm. And it's almost like you can see everything happening around you and you can

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selectively pick and choose your reaction to it rather than just being like, ah. Yeah. I'm aiming

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for at least three ice baths a week now. Yeah. That's my routine. So routines aren't just what

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you do every day. You can spread them out over the week or the fortnight or the month even. Yeah. So

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it sounds like we do a lot, but we get up early. We do. So 5am, 4.30, 5am to get all this in. Yeah.

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And yeah, it's, and we're lucky the kids, the kids can kind of get themselves ready for school.

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Yeah, make their lunches and we're at that age now. So the saunas are amazing now, aren't they?

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Yeah. I used to struggle being in a sauna. I didn't like being overheated. It was always

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an uncomfortable feeling because your body's gone into hermetic stress. But the research into

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saunas, and I learned this from Dr Rhonda Patrick online. She's an amazing scientist, but she said

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that the studies show that if you're in a sauna five times a week for 20 minutes each time at a

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certain temperature, you reduce your risk of all cause mortality. So all causes of death by over 40%.

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I'm going to live to be a thousand. Yes. You love your saunas in 20 minutes. And yeah, I was in one

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the other day and I've, I find it very hard to slow my brain down. That's why I got into meditation,

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which we'll talk about in a moment, but you do the ice bath and you get into the sauna. Once you don't

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jump straight back, well, I don't jump straight back in. I let my body dump the dopamine in first,

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heat up a little bit. Then I get into the sauna and the peace that I experienced in my mind is

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extraordinary for someone who's always had a racing mind. It's amazing. So saunas are going to be a

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big part of my routine as well. And another thing we do is we book in, we schedule into our calendar

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a three day fast every month. Yes. Fasting. Yeah. Regrettably we kind of have to, don't we?

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I know. Well, we've both got fair skin. Let's be honest. We look like ghosts.

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Well we do. With freckles. But with you, all of your water polo swimming and training outside,

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you were smashed by the sun. That's right. And I was a very, very silly, stupid teenage girl who

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thought that, you know, a tan was required when my skin just doesn't tan. It burns then peels then

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goes blotchy. And you also flew much closer to the sun Icarus. True. But it was, so now

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older, wiser, seeing that need the, you know, my skin is now damaged, our skin's sun damaged.

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the damaged cells. So we schedule it in every month, three days. Day two, I'm a bit hangry.

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So the last meal is Thursday night. The next one is Sunday night. Three days. Water, lemon water,

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black coffee, black tea. Yeah, and herbal tea. Yeah. And then you just fight through the hangry.

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for damaged proteins. And it's very, very healthy for you because those damaged proteins, those

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damaged cells could potentially turn into cancer, skin cancers, for example. And do you find that

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your skin clears up on day four? Yeah, same. It's funny. Like when you've got damaged skin,

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it's three day fast. And at the end of that, you look at your skin and it seems to have started

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to repair. So we've decided to do it once a month. Yes. We were told that we can by our doctor. So

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please don't take this as many full advice. If you've got diabetes and other food related

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illnesses, yeah, please speak to a professional. But fasting has been proven to be very, very healthy.

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I shared it with Benjamin Balk, who I work with. And he did it. And he went a step further and did,

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I think, 84 hours fasting. And he was saying... That's four days. I'm doing the math.

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people who go into ketosis. So he did it. So Ben, if you're listening, it's time that you did it

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again. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Ben, you can't just do it once and think that you're cured for the rest of

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your life, mate. You've got to do this regularly. I've read, I don't know if this is true, I haven't

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confirmed it or not, but Kelly Slater, who is still on the world surfing circuit, I believe,

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in his 50s. So old. Yeah. Does 10 day fasts. Wow. And I've heard Peter Atiyah, who was the guy

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that was coaching Chris Hemsworth, and I've heard him talk and other people do extended fasts. I

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don't know if I could get past... Four and a half days is my longest so far. That's when we had

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COVID and we were really lethargic and we had no energy. I think I was about 40% energy. And I

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found a doctor online who was suggesting fasting. And so I went on a fast. You did three days,

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I believe. Yeah. I did four and a half days and cured. Gone. All the lethargy was gone. That

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worked for us. Again, this is not medical advice. Please speak to your health professional.

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What are your other routines that bring happiness into your life? Oh, so when I kiss the kids of

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the morning and at nighttime kissing them, we have routines of what we say and what we do

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to go to bed and the different sayings and things. And so the kids know, I know, to feel good,

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it's a lovely way to end the day. And yeah, it's just... And I think that one of the things that

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we've changed up, and some days it's having to try to change it up, making the effort,

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and other days it's easy, is the wine of a nighttime just to switch off if you've had a big week or

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celebration or whatever. It's that rather than the first glass leading into many glasses,

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it's the switching off that one sip or the first small glass. I was really disappointed to learn

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that. I many years ago read research that a glass of wine, red wine specifically, was good for the

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heart because of the resveratrol in it. But then I've read that if you want to get enough

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resveratrol for it to be good for your heart, you'd need to drink 30 or 40 glasses a day.

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Wow. I thought it was liters.

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Liters, 40 liters a day, yeah, something like that. Yeah. So if you're currently thinking to

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yourself, challenge accepted, that's a wrong thought. Because it's that first sip that

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apparently turns off your default mode network, the bloody brain that's always the monkey mind

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that's always chasing, what are we going to do tomorrow? That feeling where your brain

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just switches off. It's just that first couple of sips, but every other sip after that is just

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pure poison for your body. There is no, apparently, there is no healthy amount of alcohol for a human

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being. It's poison your body has to now process and get rid of through your liver.

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I know it works even just, if you have a wine glass or a lovely glass or a lovely cup,

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you can still get that same feeling by having tea, coffee, sparkling water, whatever your drink is,

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you can still get it. So if you sit at a particular seat and table or pub or wherever you go,

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which is your signal, your habit of that's, it's wine down time, you can actually do it without

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that alcohol and it still works. It's like a talisman almost.

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Yeah, yeah, it still works. Well, for me, it's worked. So I challenge everyone to try it.

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Yes. If it doesn't work, grab that glass of wine.

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We are sponsored by Bollinger. We're still waiting on Bollinger.

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Yes. Yeah, but it's that first sip that's having that effect. So do it with some sparkling water.

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have it early. Don't have it close to sleep because it dramatically affects your sleep in

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a bad way. And sleep is the most important thing that human beings do. Thank you, Dr. Matthew Walker,

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the global sleep expert. But yeah, don't just have it early and then just stop. Just appreciate the

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fact that the default mode network in your brain has turned off. Your brain is now slower and you

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can be more present. Try it with a glass of sparkling water and use it as a trigger to slow

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down, but don't lean on three, four, five glasses. It's just so unhealthy for humans.

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So we sprinkle golden nuggets throughout our day. So we have something to work towards. In those days,

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when you are exhausted, when things maybe haven't gone as planned or something comes up that's like

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not a nice situation, it's just having those little anchors throughout the day to keep you going.

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So Phil, him calling them golden nuggets was perfect. As soon as I heard it, it's like,

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oh, of course, that's what they are. Another one, Rosebud Thorn. Oh yeah.

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Yeah, to the parents, this is a great one. At the dinner table, hey guys, what's your Rose,

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what's your Rosebud, what's your Thorn? So the Rose is something that happened today that went

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fantastic. What's a win you had? What was your best moment of the day? Thorn was something that

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didn't go the way you planned and what did you learn from it? And then Rosebud, what is something

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that you're looking forward to? It's a great way of getting the kids to structure a conversation

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around the table instead of them fighting and kicking and pushing each other.

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Guys, what's your Rose, what's your Thorn and what's your Rosebud? What are you looking

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forward to? Those routines, we need to be sitting around a table discussing our days with children.

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It's a great memory for them when they get older, it's a great way to create that family unit.

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We do everything around the dining table, don't we?

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We do, we do art and everything. My favourite routine is I wake my son up in the morning,

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he's 10, go in, give him a hug and he just throws his arms around me, squeezes me so tightly and

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we both say in unison, best time of the day. And then he comes for a walk off and then in the

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evenings, 15 minutes of reading Harry Potter together in bed. It's our favourite story,

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I've read them now four times with my kids. He's the youngest and we're going, I think we're on

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book four and read a bit of Harry Potter, another big hug and love you mate and have a great night's

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sleep. It's those routines that bring quality into your life.

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No, so to wrap up, it's not the goal, the goal gives you purpose and direction,

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but don't hang your hat on the goal as you will be happy when. And just plant nuggets throughout

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your day and whatever that looks like. We get up early, we're morning people and we're very

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productive in the morning, but other people might be on the other end of the day.

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Yeah, or in the middle, do what works for you. But if you find just little things that you can

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make a habit, a routine.

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listing all the things that you're grateful for, get your mind feeling like you've gotten

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abundance and then your body doesn't have to stress anymore because you don't need to fight

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for anything.

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That's right, start small, don't structure your day so that there's no leeway for anything going

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off track. But just small little nuggets, even one, if you don't have any, start with one.

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Just start with one, start small.

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Yep, honestly, it helps.

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So goals don't create happiness, they just give you direction. They're important,

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they just give you direction, but happiness lies in what we do every day, the journey,

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the routines. Bollinger, where are you? Bollinger, we're still waiting.

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Lindt chocolate.

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Lindt, yeah, Lindt, we love Lindt chocolate.

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Yeah, I suppose.

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Bose, anyone who wants to sponsor the podcast?

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Anyone really.

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How selfish are we? We enjoy doing this, we'll keep doing it anyway.

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That's right.

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More dogs?

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That's right.

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Yeah, more dogs. So good to see you, Michelle.

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Bye, guys.

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I need you.

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Bye.

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Bye.

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Well, that was fun.

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That was fun.

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You're such a clown.

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The clown.

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Lady captain.

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And who's going to listen to this?

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Maybe our mums.

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Thanks, mum.