Hello friends! Welcome to Rough Life! We are doing things a little differently this week,
because I figured as about time I introduce y'all to my team down here. I've talked about
them quite a few times in earlier podcast episodes, but I wanted to give them a chance
to tell y'all about themselves. So I've packed up all my equipment, and we are all
meeting at the doghouse to record this week's episode. But before they get started though,
I want to explain how everything works a little bit. So I work for Wolf Trap Animal Rescue,
their base in Washington, D.C., Virginia. My job is to partner with local animal rescues
to intervene before animals get to the shelter. Of course, we also pull from shelters on occasion,
but primarily we try to get them beforehand. One of those rescues is Boomville Second
Chance Animal Sanctuary, also called B2Cas. Jessica is the founder of B2Cas. I'm also
on the board of B2Cas because it's the only rescue in my hometown. B2Cas is a 501C3 non-profit
that helps the animals in the community that are not eligible to go to the shelter, as
well as the ones that do end up at the shelter. The local shelter is a kill shelter, but because
Jessica and another rescuer who has her own rescue work so hard at getting the dogs out
of there in time, it's been quite a while since they've had to euthanize anyone just
for space. The way it works is someone will reach out to B2Cas and ask for help. Jessica
and I will find a foster for the animal until transport. Typically, if it's not Jessica or
myself, it's my mom, Becky, who is not on the board of B2Cas, but she is our best foster,
then on transport day they will go to Virginia. Wolf Trap pays for the moms to be spayed
like we talked about in an earlier episode, and Wolf Trap covers most of the medical care.
Sometimes if B2Cas is asked to take a dog that needs surgery, B2Cas will foot the bill,
so Wolf Trap will take the animal. I'd say that happens maybe a handful of times a year.
Wolf Trap pays for the vast majority. B2Cas does not have to send all of their animals
to Wolf Trap, they can partner with other rescues as well, but about 99% of their animals
go to Wolf Trap. In comparison, about 60% of the animals Wolf Trap takes are from B2Cas.
So that's enough introductory. Let's go ahead and get into this episode.
Okay, I'm here with Jessica and my mom, Mama Becky. Everybody say hi. Hi. Okay, Jessica,
how long have you been involved in animal rescue? I started in 2014. Where about you?
I guess my first rescue was about 55 years ago when we brought a cat named Pretzel into
the house because she had a wound on her side. It's been a while. Okay, how did you each
get started? I started volunteering with a group that had taken over our local animal
shelter. I wanted to just walk dogs on my break at lunchtime because my office was right
down the road from the shelter. Just go a couple of times a week. Next thing I knew,
I was going every day and on the weekends and was there all the time. It was a rough
shelter. Things got bad with them and they eventually closed. Then Boonville's second
chance animals sanctuary was started after that. Before we ended with the other shelter,
one of the ladies said there's this girl and she does some transports maybe. I think they
go to Virginia. She's got red lips. We should give her a call. Thus, Katie came into my
life and there hasn't been a moment ever since. That's so fitting for you that you
wanted to just walk dogs and then end up taking complete control. They're like, here's the
keys. We're done. Yeah, pretty much. Alright, how did you get involved? Well, here in Mississippi,
when you and I moved here, you kept finding all these stray animals and my mom still has
a cat and she still has a dog, but we ran out of people to give stuff to. So we started
volunteering at the Corinth shelter because they had turned us away before when we tried
to bring stuff. So I thought if we volunteered there, we would have an in. They couldn't
say no. Right. And they did take sunny for us, but we quickly realized that they're
overwhelmed there and that's not a good fix for this problem. And we met Dr. Burton and
we realized we just need to get everybody out of Mississippi as fast as we can. Yeah,
that's for sure. Okay, what is the story that gives you hope or makes you keep going even
on your bad days? Well, there are many, but just many bad days. Many stories. But for
me, it's probably the sick ones that we've taken care of down here, the part of the
leaders and the Agnobob. Yes, the dying cats and the horrible sarcophagus mange leaders.
Because it's exhausting taking care of the sick litter and there are times when I don't
know how I'm going to get up the next morning and do it all again without getting fired
from that actual paying job. And so, you know, when I see those animals once they've gone
up there and they're sleeping in a softer bed than I sleep in and going on better vacations
and, you know, I know they were on death's door earlier. That's what keeps me going to
take it up the next day and do it all over again. And what's the story that gives you
hope and makes you keep going? I can't think of any story, but the Wolf Trap Adopter Page
helps a ton because I can see them there and they're not just getting good homes. They're
part of the family. They're part of a community that welcomes dogs. Like you said, they go
on better vacations than I do. Not more than I do.
You guys don't allow vacations.
Not more than I do.
Just better.
And so that, I mean, if it wasn't for that, we'd have no rescue.
No, that's for sure. Okay. What has been your favorite pull over the years?
Okay. So I thought about this one and there's multiple stories that I can tell, but the
one that is the most dramatic because everybody loves the dramatic story would be the one that
I almost went to jail over. So we had this little, this dog that we had gotten a picture
of and we knew it was in bad shape, but it belonged somewhere and we couldn't really
just go take it from the house. So it wandered a few streets over and another lady picked
it all up and brought it to us. It was so horribly neglected. I told animal.
And it was real sick. It threw up a whole bunch of times that first night.
Yeah, it was thrown up constantly. We had to like pull mat after mat back to even see
its feet. It was just, it was rough. So we told animal control that I had the dog. I
said, I know it has an owner. I don't know who the owner is, which was true at the time.
But you know, I have it. So the whole period for our city is seven days. So after seven
days was up, I thought the dog was mine. And on day nine, the owner contacted us.
Said he wanted the dog back. I said, I'm sorry. The whole period is up. I contacted
our city attorney till 10 what was going on. He said, let's file charges against the
owner and we'll go from there. So that was on like a Tuesday, I think on Friday at
430. I got a phone call from the police department that this man had filed a felony
charge against me and I had to get the dog back or I was going to be arrested.
And I'm like, Arrest her. Just arrest her. I was completely ready to go to jail for
this dog, but my family, not so much. Nobody in my life wanted me to go to jail except for
Kate. It's just like. It's just because they strip-search you down here. And I was at risk
of losing my job. And you know, Katie's like, but you look great in orange. It'll be fine.
Like this is a feather in your cap. Go to jail. And so anyway, long story short, we
ended up giving the dog back. It was horrible. Like midnight, I was at the jail. I was so
mad. I was so mad. I was booing on the way home and it all happened because animal control
did not tell the truth about what happened. So I chewed him out the next week. Anyway,
fast forward six months, the same lady finds the same dog again and Katie's like, bring
it. I will file the charges this time because apparently she doesn't lose her job. She doesn't
feel any charges. Granted, she'll be in prison, but she'll still have a job. So. I can do
it remote. It'll be fine. So anyway, we went through the city this time. They had put new
protocols in place and basically the guy never came forward for his dog. You know, the guy
that was willing to send me to prison six months earlier didn't even try to claim it
this time. So anyway, that dog is in Virginia now and live in his best life. Who is that?
What is it? What was his name in the band? We named him Winston. Winston. It was a little
maltease. I'll have to look up his wolf trap name, but I think he was a foster to adopt
and the family is just head over heels in love with him. Okay, Mama Becky, what has
been your favorite poll over the years? Man, there's a hundred, but I guess Peechie was
with me the longest you call her. Smash mouth. Smash mouth. Smash mouth. When I took her
to the vet, Clay was like, what are you going to name her? I'm like, I don't know. And he
goes, well, she's got a smash mouth. Let's call her smash mouth. Okay. I did not come
to that call her my Peechie girl. And that was the one who she was posted on Facebook
and like her whole we thought her jaw was broken. So I went and got her from McDonald's
at like 11 o'clock at night and just doped her up so she wouldn't be in pain. She passed
out. She was so exhausted and took her to the vet the next morning and clay opened her
mouth and the whole top part of her jaw just fell into her mouth. And he was like, I don't
like I don't even know how to fix it. I don't even know what you bring him the strangest
scenario. I think she had two surgeries, right? She had one to go in and like put it all back
together. And then I think they had to go back in and pull a bunch of the teeth later
because they died. But she was she was rough. She was fine. Okay, this does not apply to
you. Mama Becky, Jessica tells about your foster fails. I know I added it because I
was like, who's been your favorite polls? Obviously the two you kept because like you
kept on. So okay, I have a a chihuahua that we pulled from the shelter. There had actually
been a fire at the shelter. The second time the shelter put on fire. And this little I
thought it was a puppy. She was like three pounds. Anyway, it turned out she was full
grown should have been like three times her weight. We took her home didn't know she would
make it and just gonna keep her for until I found another foster. She had sarcoptic
mange. So couldn't send her anywhere at that point until the mange was cleared up and by
the time two weeks was over, I mean, she was embedded in our home and our course. You were
in love and they named her sugar even though they should have named her demon. She's the
meanest dog. She is a typical chihuahua. But she loves her mama. She was my midlife crisis
dog. And then we have so we have the cat then Bailey that I bottle fed her and her brother
from about three weeks old until I swear Bailey was like 12 weeks before she quit the bottle.
She could hold it on her own. Is that the big one? No, that's Kit Kat. And I guess he's
a foster felt to you, but he's from like forever ago. Anyway, so Bailey had an issue with
her softicus and they didn't think she would make it past six months. So we kept her, you
know, just to give her a good life until she couldn't eat anymore. And anyway, that was
two years ago. Jokes on you. And we'll write. Well, no, we're we actually we intended to
adopt her for the most part. Really? We got her. Murray's my favorite. She's my girl.
Now I've got a bigle right now that Katie pulled and has ended up at my house. And I don't
know what she's got. Because she found her way over there. She walked over to me. She's
like, Oh, this is where you live. Yay. I wouldn't really call her a foster fail. I would call
her a foster forced. She's the best on she is. Yeah, you said that when you're pulling
super low over now. Okay, is there any dog that you think is the one that got away or
you regret not keeping? No, really? No, you have plenty. I mean, I'm usually ready to
send them now. They're one of our very first fosters. A puppy. Her name was Kate with
us. It's Mackenzie now and we still keep up with her on the foster page. Dave still gets
upset with me for sending that one away. You know, but we didn't need another dog. So as
far as ones I would like to have kept, I'm pretty good with her. What about you? I have
fostered hundreds. And there's only one that I wish I would have kept. And it's Chuckie
Finster. I think they come thin now. He was that little German short hair pointer mix.
And she called me and she's like, I found two puppies and she brought him to me and I
was like, you found an adult dog and a four month old puppy. You did not find two little
puppies, but they were so sweet. Those were at Ms. Faye's house. I just loved that dog.
She was the best dog. Well, he was a boy. So he was a good one. And that's part of the
reason I didn't keep him. I prefer to have females. Plus I had Missy. No, he wasn't
really a good dog. She would FaceTime me and he would just be laying on like a lounge
chair in her garage, just just laid back like this is the life. I love it here. I think
it was a foster field too. I think my one that got away would be Jane, that dog that
we thought was pregnant because she was so huge. And I took her to Clay and he was like,
yeah, she's not pregnant. She's in heart failure. This is all fluid that's backing up. And
then she had a stroke and died. But I was going to keep her. I loved her so much. And
she loves me so much more than Ollie has ever loved me. But you pretty much love the ones
that are half dead. I do. The ones that need me. I love that. If we would have got it,
we would have been like, send it. Okay, what is your funniest memory doing animal rescue?
And you cannot say when I read, you are both going to say that. It's funny. I did it. But
you guys were not there. That's not your funny video. You're running into the door so many
times and the debt is still there. From my forehead, I smacked my forehead so hard into
that garage door. It's the funniest. I'll give you that. But like doing animal rescue.
Okay. I think it would be okay. So I had to take some dogs to pet wellness to a bed about
30 minutes away for survey one morning and it was like freezing that day like in the
twenties. To me, might as well be Siberia because I just obviously my brain hasn't functioned
and it's super cold. So I went out to cry my car because I don't have a carport and
my door was frozen shut. So I had to pour some water on the door to get it open, crank it
up, go finish getting ready. And then I come back out with all my work stuff gathered up
in my arms and it's frozen choking. So I had to go inside, get some more water, pour it
on the door, finally got in situated and all my crates ready. So I came over here to where
one of our fosters lives and she has a gate and horses. So like it's a hassle to get
in her place. So I get here, get ready to get out and my door is frozen shut. And I
can't get my window down. Nothing. I'm just sitting there. So I had a water bottle. I
poured it along the windows to get the window down and then I poured it along the door
to get the door open and I get out, open the gate, drive through, close the gate, get down
to the barn. And I have to get this dog that's got a rat in its mouth, it's running all over
the place, chase it all through the barn, finally get the dog, get back some of the
vehicle to the back door and it's frozen shut. I can't get any door open to get to
the crates. So I put the dog down and I have it in my hand. I don't know. I was just thinking
I need more water to pour on the door. So I get my water bottle and I go down to the
lake and I fill my water bottle up with freezing cold water. I've got frostbite on my hands
at this point. I come and pour that water on my door and it doesn't work because it's
very freezing cold water is not what you need on a door that's frozen. So finally I go chase
the dog down again, shake the rat out of its mouth and just throw both dogs in my front
seat. So we get back up to the gate, get out, open the gate, drive through, get back out,
close the gate, finally make it to two below and I get there and my door is frozen again.
So I could get my window down. I crawl out the window and then roll the window back up
and like there's a big glass window at the front of the vent. So I walk in and they are
all just rolling in the vent. It's like, is it your hazard day at the vent's office? So
he comes out, we have to pull the dogs out my window. I go in, get them situated, get
the paperwork done, get back out and it's like eight o'clock in the morning at this
point. I have a full day's work ahead of me so I stop at a gas station to get a cappuccino
because I have just earned a cappuccino at this point. So get my drink, I come back out
and my door will open and I have a complete meltdown right here in the parking lot. Just
like these people are looking at me like should we help or should we keep our distance? Should
we call 911? So I go back in, I get another cup of water, I pour it on my door and it's
still on open. So again, like I'm kicking the tire and just like this. And I realize
that I have my keys in my pocket and my door isn't frozen. I just locked. So I just really
want to strongly unlock the door, got in a dirty way. I did get several things to be
honest here for Christmas that year. So I'm ready if it ever happened. And then when you
were driving, I guess whatever you were going for work that day, you used your microphone
to talk, text, everything that happened. So I am like through tears, trying to decipher
what you're actually saying. But all I'm saying is like, and then I got there and my door
was frozen shut. And then I got there and my door was frozen shut.
Oh, it's horrible.
Oh, that's so funny. That is a good one. All right, Mama Becky, tell us your funniest
memory doing animal rescue.
Oh, I don't know. Every day we cackle on our text messages because we always do such embarrassing
stupid things.
And then I have it on video because I have cameras everywhere. And I'm like, look at
this super dumb thing Jessica did today.
We're always falling and a lot of that's on video.
But I don't know.
No, I think yours, the funniest thing that happened with you and me out in the field
is we were trying to catch this super feral great Pyrenees who had newborn puppies underneath
so much sun.
And then we had a horse.
Oh, no.
Jesus, that was scary. And so we had some Kelly from Wolf Trap gifted me a catch pole. But
the problem with the catch pole is it's so long, like you have to really practice and
like, and
You're a chocodog to death.
Yeah, like you've got to know what you're doing to be able to use it.
Okay, so I had to practice and I had nothing to practice on.
Because I'm physically crawling under the under the porch trying to like throw food to this
mom dog and be friend.
And she's like, we're not going to get close enough. We're going to have to just use the
catch pole.
So she's walking around in the yard trying to like figure out how to like release the
catch pole and then tighten it back up really quick.
And I turn around and she has caught her foot and is like limping through the yard.
And she's like, well, I don't think we're going to be able to use this.
I'm like, oh my gosh, this, this is my help. This is how I'm going to be able to catch
a dog. But we ended up catching the dog and the girl, the she wasn't the owner. It was
just the owner of the house.
We used the catch pole.
Well, yeah, but I had her on on a lead too. When we went up to the door to tell her, Hey,
we got the dog. We got the puppies. She goes, Oh, giving up already.
And we were like, no, actually we got her.
Yes, several people, veterinarians had been there trying to catch her and couldn't catch
her.
But you needed to be speccy in her foot.
And not catch a pole.
And you needed to catch a pole.
Well, because she was nursing, we couldn't sedate her at all. So we were just, but I
heard about somebody had choked it. Animal control had choked a dog too.
Accidentally.
Right.
It's very easy.
I was afraid.
Yeah.
And it did seem like, you know, we had to loosen it on her because it got tight on her and
her.
Yeah.
I think that was funny or scary story, but it was a story.
Well, it was funny.
I've seen you with around your ankle.
Well, especially because I turned around and that was the very last thing I ever expected
to see was my mother.
She called me and here I come around for it.
Okay. What is your worst injury doing in more rescue?
Okay. Well, that would be the little two pound kitten.
Oh, that would be my funniest story with you.
So, um, Katie calls me one night.
We had just moved over here to her side of town, like a minute down the road from her
and I don't know how she ever functioned in this house before I lived down the road.
But, um, she calls me and she says, I need help.
Now Katie never calls.
Well, yeah, it was also like the first time I ever called you in my life.
Not texting.
Yeah.
And so as the story goes, I threw my bra in my purse, grabbed some flip flops and ran
out the door and I get over here.
No, it wasn't flip flops.
It was your gym shoes and you didn't even tie them.
Oh, okay.
I was out on my way.
So she's got what she said was a kitten.
It looked like a gremlin that had gotten wet and gone crazy.
Um, but it's got poop all over it.
And so it was a beautiful long hair cat that was so terrified it would hide in its litter
box and like because of all the dewormer and the change in the food, it had gotten like
really soft stools and it just got matted in its hair.
And so I was trying to rinse it off, but I needed more than two hands to do it because
I had, it was a feral kitten.
I was having to like hold it by the back of its neck and I needed more hands to like
comb it all out.
So like, I'll do you.
So here come my hands and I put on gloves.
We got it all scrubbed up and we were almost done and I just got my finger too close to
its mouth, rookie mistake.
But I mean that kitten chomped down on my finger and would not let go.
It was like, it felt like 10 minutes of just bloody tear.
I'm screaming, Katie's screaming, the cat's screaming.
And anyway, finally we got my finger loose.
Um, and it wasn't that bad.
I mean it was bleeding and part of the nail was gone, but it wasn't horrible.
It wasn't horrible.
I thought I'm gonna take some of my pro fit and have a foresinger, a sore finger, but
you know, it'll be fine.
Anyway, I woke up in the middle of the night and felt like my entire body had been slammed
against a brick wall and it's twice the size it should be puss going everywhere.
And so I went to the vet, no, no, I went to the vet.
I went to a real doctor the next morning and she's like, oh honey, how long ago did this
happen?
And I'm like, oh, 13 hours ago.
So she cleaned it and drained it and shot me up with all kinds of stuff and I kept the
finger.
Well, my favorite thing about that story is when I called you and said, Harry, at home,
can you come over?
Like that was all I said when we hung up.
And you like, honestly, 60 seconds later, bust through my front door and you like jump
right in and you're helping me.
And then you look up and you go, I didn't even put my bra on.
I just put my bra on my purse because I wasn't sure what kind of emergency this was.
What kind of emergency would you need your bra on your purse?
Hang on, I need to get my bra out.
Okay, what's your funniest memory doing animal rescue?
No, we did that one.
What's your, that was my funniest one.
What's your worst injury doing animal rescue?
I'm minorly injured every day.
My arms are always scratched up.
I tripped and fallen in the yard all the time, got bit.
But the only last thing, I'm going to heal up from all this stuff, but I caught my foot
getting out of the pen.
I've done this more than once and wiped out, but one time it messed up my knee and that
has interfered with my tennis and pickleball a little bit.
So it's very serious.
Very serious.
Okay, what is your favorite part about animal rescue?
Well, obviously, you know, saving the animals and seeing them when they are all healed up
and stuff.
And for me, it's a really cool parallel between our relationship with God because, you know,
God has rescued us, God has a plan for us and I must feel saying things to my animals
a lot of the times, you know, when they're all freaking out and I'm like, listen, it's
okay, I got a plan, you just got to trust me.
If you could just understand me.
Yeah.
And so anyway, God uses my scared and frustrated animals often to speak to me and show me things
about himself.
Yeah, for sure.
All right, what's your favorite part about animal rescue?
The puppies.
I love puppies so much.
I like it to be a good thing.
Well, and in God knew what he was doing when he gave me no sense of smell.
Yeah, for sure.
Yeah, you can walk through her backyard and be like, oh, you got a bunch of puppies back
here and she's like, how can you tell?
I think which this is going to surprise both of you, but I think my favorite part is when
people come to us and they're so desperate and they're like, we don't know what else
to do.
We're so overrun with animals or we found this dog and we want to help it, but we can't
we're able to help these people and help these dogs.
Yeah, like the people that rescued all those German short hairs and they're like, rescue
us now.
Yeah.
Please help us.
This is way too many.
Okay, who encourages you the most to continue animal rescue?
I'm told I have to say Kate.
I threatened both their lives if they didn't say me.
And then three of us, I think do have a good, probably unusually good relationship working
together because I mean, I've never really wanted to kill either of them.
I don't think so.
So definitely the two of them and we have some really good supporters.
We've got a lot of haters, but we've got some some good supporters that remind us of what
we're doing.
We've got one lady that used to live here, but she lives in Maine now and she's like
our biggest supporter every month and has left us in her will.
So, you know, there's some good people out there.
Well, and I was thinking the other day when this whole drama with the newborn puppies,
mama being shot and I just jumped on Facebook and was like, I have no time to explain, but
like this is what we need.
And people everywhere across Virginia were donating stuff.
They didn't even know the reason, but they were like, if Katie says she needs it, like
we believe that it's, you know, a valid reason and we've got to help her.
And like to be donating stuff and you don't even know the story yet.
Like that's, that's amazing.
That's pretty awesome.
All right.
Who encourages you the most to continue in more rescue?
Well, what is the, I guess whoever's doing the marketing for WolfTrip because, because
marketing is such a big part of this, if you're going to continue it, because you're going
to run out of people to adopt the dogs pretty quick.
Well, that's each foster marketing their own foster, making sure.
And, and then reaching out to these companies and getting them involved, just getting the
word out.
The hockey team up there.
Yeah.
They got a lot of marketing programs with WolfTrip and that without that, we wouldn't have, we
would have worn out by now.
Yeah, for sure.
Okay.
Last question.
We all joke about quitting, but if you actually had a get out of rescue free card, would you
do it?
This is not all the animals in the world are in happy homes and we aren't needed anymore.
Like Becky thought the question was.
This is, you could just wake up one morning with a new phone number and no one knows you
were ever involved in the animal world and you just get to live a normal life.
Would you do it?
Oh, it would be so tempting.
I wouldn't want to get out of it completely.
I tried that one before it lasted like two months and got a chihuahua out of it.
So, I mean, I could never walk away again, but I will say this, if there was somebody
else to do the work that I'm doing to run the rescue, to be in charge and I could just
foster like one liter at a time when I wanted to.
Not get the felony charges.
Right, no felony charges.
And of course somebody that you could work with.
Yeah.
That would be important.
I'd be calling you every day.
I can't believe you quit.
You left me with this person.
But I mean, if somebody would really do the work and I didn't have to be in charge, I'd
take it.
But that's not going to happen.
What did you used to talk about all the time?
Your celebrity?
Oh yeah, my benefactor.
Benefactor, yes.
I'm still waiting for my millionaire benefactor so that I can quit my paying job and do this
full time.
So, y'all send them my way.
I'm sending them to my way.
Okay, now that you fully understand the question, would you first time you asked me this question,
I said, heck yeah.
I'm like, what?
Yeah, if your entire backyard is dedicated to this and you would quit.
You could have put a pickleball court out there.
That's if we had done our job and if the problem was solved here.
And some of the problems are a lot better.
I don't see near as many dead dogs on the highway as I used to.
But yeah, my friends are going to stop calling me to play if I have to say no all the time.
And I am kind of tired of the ticks and the chiggers and we can't even take the next
guard.
I know.
And why can't we take the next guard?
Is anybody really chipped into that?
Do it.
I'm tempted.
I have ticks on me today.
I'll spider crawl on me.
And my husband would like it if I quit but until the problem's solved, I don't see how
I could and sleep at night.
Yeah.
I agree.
Even if I could get out.
And you know, that's the problem is once you're in it, you can't ever get out because it's
like the mafia.
It really is.
People know and you owe too many people favors and you got too many people that owe you favors
and you're just.
What do they say?
Everybody yells everybody and everybody's broke.
Yeah.
That's true.
All right.
Is there anything else you guys want to add?
Just that we are very thankful for being able to do this all three together.
If we, my mom and I were actually, we were going over the questions making sure her answers
were that she even understood the questions.
And she was saying how lucky we are that we actually even like you, Jessica.
Because no, like for real, there's a lot of people who are in this and you know, the mayor
is in charge of them and they can't, they don't have the free reign to do what they want to
do.
And the fact that, or you know, they have board members that they're stuck with that
aren't helpful and block them from doing the things they want to do.
The fact that we all nine out of 10 times, I would say even more on nine than 10 times,
we have the same goal and we just get along so well and we work so well together.
Watch us get in our first fight after the.
I mean, I can't remember a time that we, I mean, we've disagreed on stuff, but it's
always just, all right, fine, do whatever you want.
And I think we're really lucky that we all, Jessica and I are really hard workers.
So that's super helpful.
Very helpful for me.
So with that being said, let's go unbox all these canned foods.
All right.
Thank you for listening.
It's a rough life, but we've all got to do it.