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You are now tuned in to the epicenter of geek news with your hosts the slippery

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online streamer warlord with the skills to back it up Fergie and the master of

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all my information is probably out there already yeah probably Oregon DMV got massively hacked like

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yesterday oh really yeah like hardcore hacked I'm not in Oregon right yeah lucky you

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yeah I got us rolling now we're good okay just a little soft intro nice welcome

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everybody to another episode I got my buddy Cory what up dude's awesome I love

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this guy oh that's sweet but no Fergie today so he's he's out of town right now

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that's fine I'll I'll try to make a somewhat decent enough replacement for

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the temporary time being yeah all literal and stuff yeah why are you using

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all these big words bro that's how I am but yeah so you're a Subaru guy like me

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yes sir we're fucking nerds massively huge nerds that's kind of what the whole

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show is about anyway I presumed as much you know tenacious geek it just kind of

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makes sense right tell me that's not like the best fucking name ever I mean I

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thought it was just a tribute but yeah we're not the best podcast in the world I

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was telling a couple of my buddies at work I was like yeah I'm gonna go out to

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Vancouver I'm gonna you know be on a podcast and they're like oh so what is

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it I was like I am some nerdy podcast tenacious geek I was like that's what we

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just geek shit yeah when I told my son I told my son I was like uh he's he asked

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me what's the podcast and I'm like oh it's just nerdy shit he's like is that

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what it's called no good name too though just dirty shit right it would have been

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funny yeah I mean with video games movies comics a lot of anime yeah enemies we do

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watch a lot of anime I don't I don't get too deep into anime it depends on what

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it is like I've been eagerly awaiting the finalized end of attack on Titan have

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you watched attack on Titan watched like maybe five episodes when it first started

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and it just it gets it insanely good I mean I'll watch it eventually but it's

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it's like I don't know it's supposed to be ending this year so like this summer

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fall winter time is supposed to be like the final ending of the series and

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finally yeah finally oh man well the weird thing about it is each season is

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like 30 episodes it seems like so it's really really long seasons and it's just

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what what I liked about it so much is the action in it is really good I mean

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I've seen some like reels and shit yeah okay cool you get deeper in the anime

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there's so many things for you to think about like oh what if this is gonna

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happen what if this is gonna happen and there's so many twists and turns within

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it where it makes you actually think and so that was like a big big turn on for

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me because I'm watching it I just and I'm theorizing I just don't get the

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whole big Titan things like I should probably watch it you gotta watch it I

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can't I can't go deep in the spoilers this is coming from the same guy that I

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refused to watch my hero academia for so long because it just I started it and I

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was like this is so fucking slow mm-hmm it's kind of boring and I'm huge I'm

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huge in the superpowers like the superhero thing I watched the fuck out

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of heroes I don't remember that show yeah with the cheerleader chick yeah

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save the cheerleader save the world yeah big into that invincible the boys I love

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the boys yeah me too have you seen invincible I know I haven't yet I've

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heard a lot of things about it but I just haven't watched it it's so good the

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it's created by the same dude that did Walking Dead oh yeah yeah it's it's so

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good I'll have to check it out I mean I have prime so there's no reason for me

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not right everybody's got pride everybody right but yeah I didn't watch

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my hero for so long and now I'm obsessed yeah it's really good I mean I got baku

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go hang in for my for my front me and I got a car so I got a deck who had there

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I think you saw my deck who sure yeah yeah and then uh me and my co-host we're

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going to get matching tattoos down our arms I got baku go coming in on this

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side he's getting deck who on the other side that's awesome because that's we've

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known each other for 20 years yeah so yeah yeah that's super cool man fucking

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upset with it I got my son introduced and he knows decku all over the place

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yeah I mean it's it's a really good show it is slow it is slow but like once you

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get past that initial it fucking yeah rock it yeah and attack on Titan is kind

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of the same it's a little bit slow in the beginning and then like season 3 is

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more of thinking but then they go like yeah I gotta keep it actiony it's almost

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like comparing the old Marvel like you remember old like Lou Frigno painted

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green as the Hulk yeah so that's kind of like the first couple seasons if you

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compare it to the third and fourth season because there's way more Titans

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there's way more crazy shit that's going on so what you're saying is skip the

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first two seasons and I mean if you have to but there's a lot of character

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building and there's a lot of a lot of depth that goes into those first two

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seasons and then it just gets ridiculously good like insanely good see

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that's how my hero was to me at least and then I got turned on a demon slayer

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oh that's another really good one you want you you caught yeah I haven't

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watched swordsmith yet I don't know sports what swordsmith sword Smith

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village the new like season the new season I haven't watched that I think I

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watch not all the way dubbed yet I watched the Mugen train yeah the little

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train series thing a little arc arc that's what it's called it's like season

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1.5 or something like that I watched that one and then I watched the one right

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after the next one where they're like in the city and they're like it's about

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like prostitutes yeah yeah yeah I watched that this is the one right after that I

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really like that they make the big bad guy essentially Michael Jackson right

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vampire Michael Jackson I saw that and I was like what the hell that's actually

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kind of amazing completely random but did you ever watch Jojo's bizarre

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adventure no I have no oh my god so like in the first season you it's about

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vampires too mm-hmm essentially and it's like the big bad boss man from Demon

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Slayer kind of reminds me of the big bad boss man from Jojo oh that's one's a

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vampire one's a demon but the way you put it like it's almost identical that's

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fucking and it's like I just want to kill you because I hate you yeah type of

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shit and it's yeah those are just a really good show I've seen a whole bunch

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of weird it's about Jojo it's super weird yeah that's what kind of turned me

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off from it because normally when something so I'm a hipster I've I've

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lived in Portland for most of my adult life most of my childhood life was in

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Portland back in like 2005 people were calling me a hipster and I didn't know

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what the hell that man like what the fuck and they're like you like things

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that are not cool and when they become cool then you stop liking them I'm like

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yeah I just like what I like essentially yeah like or that's what it used to be

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now it's like that must make me a hipster then yeah and cuz I do the same

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thing mine is like when it starts getting popular I don't want anything to

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do with it exactly and then I'll like check it out like Walking Dead wait till

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the hype dies down yeah like the hype dies down I'm like okay I'll check it

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out it's like fucking yeah Walking Dead I didn't watch Walking Dead for like ever

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that was like up until like just within the last like two years they had a story

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like five seasons yeah I think I got to like right at the end of the Negan yeah

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that's that's about yeah they did a time skit I'm good seeing yeah did the same

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thing with um Stranger Things I didn't touch Stranger Things until the last

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season was done then I binged it all I don't know if I've seen the newest one

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it I haven't the one we're like see I should have just watched it as it's

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coming out it's really good it is um but like Supernatural I love

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Supernatural for the first six seven seasons I watched it with the hype and

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then I was like no that's too much gone back to finish it later yeah you know

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but that's I'm the same way yeah I mean it's just I don't know the hype for me

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personally at least the hype's a big turnoff yeah because it's like if

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everyone likes it then why do I want to be like everyone else that's why I hate

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fortnight so much yeah like I hate that game so bad I'll see my like it's funny

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too cuz like my wife my son my wife's best friend and my best friend they all

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play for tonight they will all sit in the living room at my place and play

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fortnight together and I'm just sitting there like so this is boring yeah like

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well you can get on and play with us I'm good I'll pass like I've heard they did

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the no building shit yeah which was good I mean I know I could maybe fuck with

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that a little bit yeah that game seems like a money grab to me it is um I just

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I let my son do the $11 a month pass so he gets the season pass every month and

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he gets like special unique bonus skins and a lot of chores to earn that I mean

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kind of not too much his chores he's really consistent with them so that's

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good then yeah I mean he's got his stuff that he's got to do and I mean it's 11

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bucks a month what's what's 11 bucks a month in the grand scheme of things if

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he if he actually plays the game it's a good point and if he plays it and enjoys

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it I mean yeah we play pay for Xbox live and worse stuff exactly I get it

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exactly and I would say a quote-unquote chore is he has to make use of the

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battle pass every month where he loses it so he's got he better complete that

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exactly so every month he completes it and he gets you know probably about 15

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20 skins and a whole bunch of different stuff like throughout the month when

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he's playing so like I'm like yeah cool keep doing it like as long as you're as

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long as you're actively using it see that used to be me and destiny I played

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destiny to so hard everybody that's listening to this podcast should know

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that like I played it so hard for so many years up until this last expansion

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just bought it played it for like a couple weeks is it just not good just

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not feeling it anymore yeah it's just yeah yeah they they're fucking up PvP a

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lot that's what I heard and the raids and everything it's like they they're

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making them harder which is a good thing in its own way but it's like the way you

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find your teams and like people to play with because you got to have people to

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do these raids and dungeons and shit they kind of like wow mm-hmm it's just the

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community just sucks like literally the destiny 2 community was awesome forever

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and all the way up and even when uh the actor dude died the Lance Riddick or

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whatever his name was because he was a death was player yeah that was just

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recent yeah it was like beginning of the year mm-hmm it was like March but he he

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played destiny he was a voice in destiny then the community came together and

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it's still just like when it comes to raids and shit it's like oh you better

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know what you're doing I want you to have like five clears before we invite

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you and it's like what the fuck it's it's one of those endless cycles where I

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can't get a team because I don't know the raid but I don't know the raid

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because I can't get a team exactly exactly and I know that because a while

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yeah I've been through that too and it's always painful it's frustrating then

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eventually you get that one that one squad that's like yeah come on mm-hmm

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yeah and then now and then you learn it yeah and then you go on and you do like

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heroics and mythics and shit yeah yeah but it's just was me it takes that it

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takes out one squad or that one group of people that one guild that I've done it

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so many times they're like yeah well we could take on a scrub yeah you know like

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I mean you can go online and watch videos and tactics and shit I don't do

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that no I don't watch tactics online I learn it by doing it it's not as fun

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it's really not like that I remember when Elden Ring came out I still never

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played Elden Ring it's it's good if you like the hype I think the hype got me

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for Elden Ring if you're a masochist then you'll probably like it just kill

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everybody you know yourself oh yeah so because it's a Dark Souls you know it's

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an open world Dark Souls and I'm terrible at Dark Souls games yeah me too

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but I still have fun with them cuz you cuz you die and you restart right and

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not only but like I don't think Elden Ring does that right it's not that you

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restart but so like in Dark Souls the currency the experience are both souls

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if you die there's a little all the souls that you've collected are there if

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you die while you're trying to make it back to your body those souls are gone

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you lose everything you lose everything all your souls now you don't lose your

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gear you can go but you could go back and get your souls only if you don't die

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on your way back and it's kind of like wow got a little bit you don't lose

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experience or gold or anything when you die in wow which dude oh a hardcore a

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hardcore World of Warcraft server would be tight I from what I understand

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they're looking at making one and like Diablo does yeah that would be fucking

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tight cuz like I plastic would be the best one to do it too so since you

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brought up wow I play on a private server for World of

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Warcraft yeah what's and server so it's called turtle Wow Oh a turtle Wow okay

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and molten Wow what's what molten Wow was I don't even think it's a thing

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anymore but molten was a Lich King I have a server way back when I think this

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was during like Mesa Pandaria I didn't yeah so like Mesa Pandaria was live and

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they went and did Lich King because you know Kata kind of screwed everything oh

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yeah absolutely because Lich King was the best yeah and so I played on molten

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for because I ran through Panda like it was nothing it was easy and I just

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didn't really fight the game I didn't really care for the raids or farming or

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anything so I wouldn't play molten for like ever until until warlords came out

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I went back to live on warlords and then molten and then molten disappeared so

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what are that you people that liked warlords of Draenor I loved warlords

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like I had a good guild we had on me too like the rays actually inner grades were

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challenging mm-hmm the not being able to fly right off the bat was nice too yeah

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it was a big change of pace yeah what the game is I'm a I'm a Paladin tank

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oh that's what I do I loved every second of it mm-hmm

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taking was so nice oh yeah I was a death of night tank oh you're a death night I'm

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Paladin I was Paladin until they released death night and then I was like now

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here's the question live hoarder alliance you fucking get always

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hoard get out always hoard no matter what the fuck out I'm for the Alliance

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dog no man all day are low tar I couldn't know victory or death no the

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Alliance man um let's see we get along outside the game exactly exactly in the

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game no I'll kill you yeah good luck why I touched it since Legion drop so it's

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it's different now a lot of stuff is normalized in the current game maybe

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normalizes the wrong word for it so I'll use PvP as an example in current

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Wow all right so dragon flight right because dragon flights the new one yeah

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yeah so let's say Shadowlands Shadowlands came out and it was out for a while and

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then dragon flight just came out at the tail end of last year right okay so

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what's the newest one that's right cuz you get so dragon mountain yeah the

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weird the dragon flying is kind of cool I guess it's a cool dragon mounts and

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fucking but it's different in the way that it is so like you don't just fly

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there's no hovering like you have to gain momentum or you're falling oh so

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it's like actual like yeah which is kind of cool but I like hover a couple

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expansions ago they ruined PvP and wow and which was probably Legion I heard

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battle for Azeroth was pretty good though PvP wise so well I don't know I

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like I said I'm Legion so that's the case that's four expansions I have to

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play when it comes to PvP for me I like being able to get my character so geared

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that when a fresh Alliance noob walks into the arena with me or walks into a

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battleground with me I smack him twice and he dies because they just balanced

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it pretty much yeah they made everything a percentage base so let's say you as a

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fresh max level character still in your greens and blues from leveling and me

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in my full PvP gear we full set everything exactly okay we fight I'm

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getting decimated it says on my screen that I'm doing 10,000 damage but you

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only have 12,000 hit points and it's moving like 5%

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meaning that even though they're saying it does a person like a certain number

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of damage a certain health point of damage it's actually only doing a

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percentage because you're under geared it's going to do less damage to you and

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when that happened I was like I'm done I'm done with this yeah fuck that there's

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no reason for that I'm here to one-shot yeah like I had to take my lumps yeah I

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had to go in there and get all day long earn that shit in arena all day

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exactly you know that's when you know being a mage yeah cuz I played a mage too

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a frost mage a major last cannon you know you come run up on me I'm getting

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smacked yeah they my paladin if I can't get to you I'm dead mm-hmm that's

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bullshit so that's fucked it's PvP is not as fun but turtle Wow turtle Wow so

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turtle Wow and hardcore we're not condoning this either by the way no

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definitely totally there was a fun as fuck and they're always free they are

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the best part that's the big thing so they have enforced hardcore mode now

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you're not forced to play hardcore mode but you make a new character you go to

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the glyph person and you turn on hardcore mode if your character dies you

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can't log into that character anymore that character is dead the only thing

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you can do with it is delete it from from the character selection screen oh

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shit so kind of that's your only option yeah hi and so that's and it's classic

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and so it's to level 60 yeah level 60 old world content no flying no fucking

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and hair heir heir loom no that and they've added that was one of the things

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I love doing get heirlooms I'm twinking twinking was level 20

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twinking battlegrounds and all that yeah I love it was it was it was until it was

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nothing but twinks yeah yeah I mean you could have level a level 19 twink going

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out killing level 40s yeah and it was it was amazing to see I think I kept mine

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at like 20 so it went up that bracket in battlegrounds yeah so you could do 20 to

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29 yeah which made it even more fun yeah cuz you've got I mean you've got level

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29 people that thinking they're you know think they're twinks but it's not yeah

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it's not the same right you know and then you know just turn experience off

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yeah and just have fun with it yeah yeah Wow's Wow's definitely taking a lot of

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time dude the whole life the old private servers that I told you molten I used to

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multi box dude I was one of those guys multi box of shaman wrath was the time to

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multi box shamans wrath was awesome for shaman yeah I remember multi boxing

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shamans and like soloing ten man lich king mm-hmm with nothing but shaman yeah

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ten well there's so hard this shit was well I mean they're so try to get them

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to run back together and go where I want them to go oh my god ten on one screen I

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like not like three monitors because this was back when you know pandaria was

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out mm-hmm it's fucking it really is so yeah so ten fucking full screens so for

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the people that don't know the term multi boxing means I'm running individual

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accounts but like multiple monitors on one screen on one monitor yeah so I'm

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hot keying my keyboard I'm running like ten characters all at the exact same

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time but pressing one button at a time like I'm playing one character it's it's

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crazy to see especially when you come across them in PvP oh I see that all the

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time because you you walk in and you're like oh it's just a shot oh oh it's it's

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a group of shaman and I'm dead yeah a group of shaman that are running like

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they're one person uh-huh so they overlap and it looks yeah oh it's so

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stupid you can't tell like I would tap target I would literally spam the tab

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just to make sure there wasn't multiples there yeah it's yeah and then they'd

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name them everybody would name their multi box with like one letter off or

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something like that so they were like yeah yeah yeah it's it was it was the

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glory days the glory days of show was so fun yeah old-school rating like we don't

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have guilds like that anymore no I mean you can you can raid in raid

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finder now which is rating on easy mode fucking hate raid finder and it's just I

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hated it yeah I don't I don't even know the last time I've ran raids I don't

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care about the lore I don't care about any of that snow but I miss just regular

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and heroic mm-hmm 10 and 25 man yeah we don't need 12 we don't need 40 well the

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40 mans were fucking amazing they were but 10 and 25 wrath lich king I think

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even cataclysm did 10 and 25 mm-hmm right yeah cuz mythic didn't come out

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until the panda no I think it was I think was warlords I've never ran a

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mythic I tried but it's like so by the time warlords came out we had LFR level

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you know raid finders like fresh yeah and then normal and then heroic and then

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mythic that's just too much they're like so how many yeah how many times do I have

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to run this fucking I think that's why we didn't get much content compared to

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the old ones and it's it seems like they're catering the game like at least

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now they're catering to the game to two separate factions they're really

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hardcore Raiders that run like the 1% of the 1% that run like high mythics yeah

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and then the LFR just smashing their forehead against the keyboard yeah and

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like I'm I'm a hardcore casual so like hardcore casual yeah like I play pretty

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casually I was I was when I play I was hardcore period I was casual about it

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I'm talking I wasn't then bro I'm talking I'm spending like I'd get off of work in

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eight hour day and I'm spending ten hours mm-hmm after that playing Wow

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sleeping for maybe four hours go back to work well yeah and that was my only

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20s late teens we were able to get away with it yeah in high school like I in

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high school was when like Lich King burning crusade all that that's fucking

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all I did oh man you're way younger than me then yeah yeah how old are you I'm

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35 I'm only 31 well I mean that's a big difference in wow though I mean yeah

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cuz I got I got introduced yeah it came out what 2004 2004 and I think I started

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playing in 2005 early 2006 yes I think I was playing I didn't start until like

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right at the butt end of classic okay and burning crusade so burning crusade

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was my first full experience so we started it pretty much the same time

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yeah and like yeah cuz it was right at the end of classic beginning of burning

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crusade when I started playing yeah I started to I was like I think I was in

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like eighth grade seventh eighth grade I was well I think I was yeah so for me

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things were kind of weird cuz I didn't I went to high school for a couple years

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then I dropped out and then I went and joined the army then I got kicked out

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for medical reasons and I got asthma so so do I so like this is never bothered

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yeah I joined and then I got there and they sent me to Georgia in the middle of

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spring and my lungs were like yeah no we're not doing this so not in that

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swamp heat either oh dude it was so bad so I got that when it's 60 it's just

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like it's you're breathing water yeah you know you're just breathing hot

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steamy water it's terrible it's not fun not fun at all but I got back from that

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and just started partying a lot and then once my rent once my money ran out my

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buddy was like I got to show you this game and I was hooked that's it like

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that's all it took I was I was in and I I couldn't stop I haven't been able to

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fully give it up since then it's like so mine my introduction was my like

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best friend in middle school his mom and her wife played like religiously all

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through classic and everything and it was like I'd go in and see I'm like okay

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you know I'm coming from Nintendo yes to like I I played pretty hardcore the

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halo I was fucking first halo all day long oh yeah like that was my shit so I

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was like okay world of work this is time so when does it when do I get to play

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this on console no there's not all right well I guess I gotta start figuring out

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how to do this and then come to find out about the subscription shit I was like

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well I don't have a job yeah I'm in school I'm like how how is this gonna

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work go play the free trial fuck I was hooked I was hooked I would

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continuously repeat the trial as much as I could and it was eventually I started

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getting paid and shit I'd like go make people pay for it for me right I mean a

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little bit of do what you got you got to do what you got to do you know I don't

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want to say it but you know what I'm saying it's so it was like I had to get

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the money for it you know after that it was just like that's all I wanted to do

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yeah it's until it and then they did the buyer subscription with gold the in-game

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as soon as that went live it became a job yeah it was like I got I got a grant

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a certain amount a day to make the money to pay for the month of the

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subscription it was like it's a cycle yeah I mean you can definitely do that

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like yeah I remember farming herbs and or fucking yeah oh my god or is the

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worst cuz like farming herbs is easy I had to make a druid you make a druid and

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you just fly around and you just fly around and you pick the damn flowers and

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you keep flying dude I was the next one badass that that was my shit was resto

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druid back in Lich King never in a healer never never I used to I used to

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prefer healer because it's so I always played a mage was my first one it's

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always my first one that's my enchanter that's my portals yeah and then

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realized that doing DPS all the time was just like blah boring I need some more

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yeah went to resto druid fucking loved it I could solo a ten-man heroic after

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well after you know a few runs knowing what to do getting the gear knowing

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knowing when the big kids I literally could solo heal all through ten-man

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heroic with my guild and it was fucking amazing and then Kata came out and

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fucking destroyed it yeah cuz we didn't have tree anymore no and it was like

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they just they ruined it that was one of the like and that's when I switched to

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Paladin and I started Paladin and I just went straight to tank I still

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Legion ruin that so I have a buddy still every expansion he's asking me did they

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give me my tree back yet no cuz he hasn't played it they made it

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supposedly they made a glyph they made a glyph I think in cataclysm or Panda

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where you you can get the tree you just don't have to be in it but it's not the

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same tree it's not the same it's that weird like fucking blocky one with the

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legs have you seen it I don't think so it's like the the Trent almost hold on

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let's see if I can get a picture of it but it's not it's not the tree it's not

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like the old tree like no I loved being I was always in tree well yeah it was a

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worm was legit tree and boomkin you got such good buffs from it dude boomkin was

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my shit too that was my side spec like even you actually had to be a moonkin

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yeah and just just stand there and cast yeah like even with uh like what is it

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um completely lost my train of thought yeah I'm trying to see if I can get a

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picture of it yeah they turned it into like this yeah this is it that's what it

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turned into oh that kind of came out or in pandaria that was the tree that was

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so good that's I'm like out huh you can get that as a mount yeah and it's so

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stupid and it's like this is what I wanted this yep yeah yeah that's that's

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the actual yeah so that's what I was gonna say disc priest like disc priest

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is the closest that I've gotten to as a healer see I tried I have I have a max

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level disc priest but I just I can't play it right it's not my style it's

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really fun for a PvP you're essentially unkillable just yeah bubble everything

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and heal flash heal real quick yeah and like which resto druids are fucking you

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do boomkin just right you can heal in boomkin well you you get out of the form

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go back into the form before like cataclysm and all that and so you could

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like pop a hot real quick you know heal over time pop back in a boomkin and just

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annihilate yeah and you're healing for you know fucking 20 seconds 20 30

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seconds depending on the hot yeah and good takes if you're expect for it so

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even in resto you know it runs almost you mean you run your intellect but then

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you run I think it was wisdom to spirit spirit that's what it was for the mana

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region but you can literally swap just a couple pieces of gear out and then you

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have your firepower mm-hmm was fucking amazing and then they just killed it all

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the game is so much different now they like incentivize like this and this is

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what I mean by they're really catering the game towards like the top of the

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top is there incentivizing every single healer now to also output damage so

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healing is so simplistic I think this because it was so simple yeah boring

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it's gotten dumbed down to the point where like as a disc priest the way that

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my heels work I throw a bubble on you right throw a shield on you and then you

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get a buff for a certain amount of time and that buff is not just the shield but

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it's to where whenever I'm dealing damage you're getting healed for a

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percent okay and that's how I mean that makes how does heels that makes sense

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and how disk is yes might would kind of heal a little bit back then and so like

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they last time I played it was really into it so I haven't played anything

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beyond that it's you don't need to it's kind of that's kind of how like a prop

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pallie was mm-hmm like I could throw a little bit of heels out every so often

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while I'm taking damage mm-hmm that I didn't have to worry about I could

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throw you know a good few thousand heel here and there yeah we're essentially

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free yeah and then throw my own mitigation out like now you're not

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taking damage yeah but I still got aggro you know exactly I remember before I got

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too deep with the death knight and the nights were so they were but I refused

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to play them until they kind of got dumbed down so like the beginning of

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wrath I was prop halodon I was a death knight in wrath to I had one because the

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dude the blood tank was just too good yeah it was and then it was too broken to

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not play it was great and then shadow matter it didn't matter what spec you

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went yeah you could tank like that's why I said blood blood tank well frost tank

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was the best but blood tank was just nobody I didn't need healers yeah it

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got to the point where anything beyond I think it was just anything normal and

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like certain heroic dungeons and raids like I literally could just run all DPS

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yeah well and I'm still out DPS saying that's I remember seeing people that

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would put together raid groups of just death knights yeah cuz like cuz you

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don't need healers with blood you've got so much region like so much mitigation

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and region with frost you've got so much AOE and then you know you just have this

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this cycle of different tanks that are switching aggro yeah well we get it think

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about it you get ten of them or even or even 25 run a 25 man heroic each you

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know different spec mm-hmm just imagine the damage output the

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healing that's gonna get done and then when somebody's about to die just swap

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yep real quick and that's that's what people were doing it was crazy it was

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some of the craziest stuff like it was great I miss it was great I miss when

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Blizzard let people have fun with their game they kind of did the same thing

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with monk when monk came out too they were insane like they were the best

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tanks the best healers they did pretty good damage but they did yeah you had to

412
00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:40,680
work for I had a level 100 monk too plus they leveled super fast yeah they had

413
00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:45,840
that experience buff the Zen pilgrimage or whatever yeah so that they level it

414
00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:49,600
like twice the rate or so yeah yeah yeah monk was OP

415
00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:55,280
blizzard is not and yet we never once got a necromancer no never ever I think

416
00:35:55,280 --> 00:36:00,120
that it's shitty like it is like we pretty much got all the classes from

417
00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:05,440
Diablo yeah but we never got a necromancer yeah unless that's what they

418
00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:10,760
count the warlock I really hope not if they count the warlock as a necromancer

419
00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:18,440
then maybe it's a combination of warlock and death night maybe maybe death night

420
00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:25,800
I think would be closer but it's just like to have a real necromancer would be

421
00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:29,760
the Diablo 2 or Diablo 4 style necromancer you can at least resurrect

422
00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:35,160
like five or six bodies yeah have a bunch of skeletons or golems like mm-hmm

423
00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:40,440
that would be amazing or even like kill a big boss revive it real quick so they

424
00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:46,360
brought back the druid so you have low for okay they did yeah they brought the

425
00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:52,600
druid back cuz that's the druid wasn't in three now I played necromancer anyway

426
00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:58,520
necromancer and a wizard I played witch doctor a lot in three when I did play I

427
00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:06,240
didn't play very much and do I like the I like the ability to have a bunch of

428
00:37:06,240 --> 00:37:11,480
like followers a bunch of companions and then I would just think that's why I

429
00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:15,560
chicken I think that's why I like necromancer yeah as I just keep

430
00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:19,760
rezzing as I kill them and then just aoe damage everybody well I had like the

431
00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:23,600
speed chicken build going oh so I was just like a little chicken and I would

432
00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:29,200
run around and I would like explode and kill everything and that was fun sort of

433
00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:34,040
that's a little easy it is and Diablo 3 was really bland and boring in my

434
00:37:34,040 --> 00:37:38,200
opinion like I'm a I'm a Diablo 2 and a path of exile player yeah I played the

435
00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:42,920
shit out where exile yeah I mean to the point where I loved the original so much

436
00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:50,400
I still have yet to play that god-awful remaster I just for Diablo 2 oh okay

437
00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:58,400
yeah um they it's not it's not path of exile but no they yeah they did some

438
00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:03,680
things wrong with just remaster yeah like did not it did not sit right with me I

439
00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:07,440
was like why would we go back and remaster two because how good it was I

440
00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:12,720
mean two was the best yeah but one needs the remaster one is the one that needs

441
00:38:12,720 --> 00:38:17,560
to love two is pretty you could throw two up just throw it up you don't even

442
00:38:17,560 --> 00:38:21,720
have just poured it out and throw it up on fucking Xbox they could yeah and it

443
00:38:21,720 --> 00:38:27,720
stands alone even with the terrible graphics and I think Diablo you don't

444
00:38:27,720 --> 00:38:31,760
really need good graphics no you don't I think the reason that they did two

445
00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:36,440
instead of one is because two still to this day the servers are live yeah the

446
00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:40,720
servers are are populated somewhat but not just that you can play two offline

447
00:38:40,720 --> 00:38:51,440
anyway yes on PC and you can also play resurrected offline which is cool I

448
00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:58,000
guess I don't know like I played D2 resurrected a fair amount but it's not

449
00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:03,240
it's not it's not D2 LOD like it's not the same it doesn't have the same it's

450
00:39:03,240 --> 00:39:09,880
like grasp on me and Diablo 3 didn't really get that either no it really

451
00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:15,280
didn't like to be honest I waited until what was it the the evil edition or

452
00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:19,120
whatever like the big deluxe yeah with all the expansions and everything yeah I

453
00:39:19,120 --> 00:39:23,240
waited till that was on sale for like 15 bucks before I even bought it and played

454
00:39:23,240 --> 00:39:28,160
it oh so you missed all the hype which is getting back to the hipster thing I

455
00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:31,720
just I couldn't do the hype and I know how Blizzard games are yeah like

456
00:39:31,720 --> 00:39:36,200
overwatch did the same thing with overwatch I played the beta was all cool

457
00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:39,960
about it and then as soon as it dropped I was like fuck this game right and then

458
00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:43,800
they made it free they made the first overwatch free it just turned it into

459
00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:48,200
overwatch too mm-hmm I played it for a few months after that I haven't played

460
00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:53,080
it since no I know how Blizzard servers are too yes they're very hit and miss

461
00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:58,640
and I refuse that's the whole Diablo 4 I got a buddy that it took him days oh it

462
00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:03,800
didn't take me that long I'm on my ps5 though oh I think he was on I think he

463
00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:06,680
was on series s or something but it said it took him like two and a half days

464
00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:11,840
that's sitting in a queue and I was like you it's kind of what yeah yeah that's

465
00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:16,440
it's a Blizzard launch you never never play a Blizzard game and expect to play

466
00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:19,840
the first day yeah like just don't the first week yeah I always say I always

467
00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:24,880
tell people give it a week but if you don't have the mass rush they don't fix

468
00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:29,320
it fast exactly so I mean it's hit or miss exactly it's a double-edged sword

469
00:40:29,320 --> 00:40:38,260
yeah I don't know when d4 came out let everybody else fucking like so Diablo 4

470
00:40:38,260 --> 00:40:44,160
I played in the closed beta because I pre-ordered the game because I am like

471
00:40:44,160 --> 00:40:48,120
I still to this day I have Diablo 2 downloaded on my computer like real

472
00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:54,380
Diablo 2 I have like three different Diablo 2 private servers it's it's so

473
00:40:54,380 --> 00:40:58,960
addicting I had it in a offline mode though yeah so I didn't have to like try

474
00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:02,640
to log in I literally just open it and start right back where I was oh nice

475
00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:06,240
it was like a cracked version or something I don't know well I mean it

476
00:41:06,240 --> 00:41:10,600
was just so I could just play by myself and it's it's fun to play that way but

477
00:41:10,600 --> 00:41:14,840
lay it offline on like a guy trip or some private servers like I still play

478
00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:21,680
like real old Diablo 2 old graphics and everything it's that good see it holds

479
00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:24,760
up we don't need a remaster I mean I've been playing it for 20 years and I still

480
00:41:24,760 --> 00:41:29,760
and here's the other thing is why do we keep going to console

481
00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:33,840
why would we make the other four I can understand they made this one

482
00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:40,360
specifically for console mm-hmm like Diablo 3 was PC first console was the

483
00:41:40,360 --> 00:41:45,360
side hustle this one was made specifically for console yeah why I

484
00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:52,400
don't know um why it plays fine I don't play it on my PC I played on my PS 5 my

485
00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:55,880
PC couldn't handle it I know for a fact my PC couldn't handle it I need a new

486
00:41:55,880 --> 00:42:01,320
graphics card so I played on the PS 5 well mine this one we're recording on

487
00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:07,080
couldn't even handle three Wow that's it can handle I can play three barely I can

488
00:42:07,080 --> 00:42:12,680
play three but I just knew like and then seeing the older than our kids bro no

489
00:42:12,680 --> 00:42:19,300
that's pretty bad I can't just get rid of it it's it's difficult it's too

490
00:42:19,300 --> 00:42:28,200
beautiful yeah but is it good is double for worth it from what I've seen so far

491
00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:37,680
I would say yes now me personally Diablo 3 had a fine enough campaign leveling up

492
00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:43,000
experience the shit out of it but the paragon system was incredibly bland and

493
00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:47,960
doing so boring yeah so I hit max level now I gotta hit another max level

494
00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:54,360
mm-hmm and all you're getting is plus one to intellect yeah plus one to

495
00:42:54,360 --> 00:43:00,320
stamina like it's it's very plain yeah bland but I mean they did make it like

496
00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:05,480
her the heroics what the fuck did they call I can't the greater riffs yeah

497
00:43:05,480 --> 00:43:10,840
where they went up a level to like all the way down that I mean that was pretty

498
00:43:10,840 --> 00:43:16,120
cool it made it but you're just replaying the same literally the exact

499
00:43:16,120 --> 00:43:21,320
same shit just a little higher and I'm so they're a little bit tougher so you

500
00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:25,720
beat it once you can beat it a thousand times exactly you know and it's I don't

501
00:43:25,720 --> 00:43:31,600
know replay factor was so low yes cuz like Diablo 2 there were a lot of

502
00:43:31,600 --> 00:43:37,800
hardcore like very very difficult to find chase items yeah and I remember that

503
00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:42,600
you needed numerous of them likes you're building a lightning source cool great

504
00:43:42,600 --> 00:43:48,920
you need seven burrs for your build burr is like in the 20 years that I've played

505
00:43:48,920 --> 00:43:53,880
I found three of them mm-hmm you know it's not an it's not an easy rune to

506
00:43:53,880 --> 00:44:01,200
find no with Diablo 4 I'm already at the point I'm a hundred hours in but I'm at

507
00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:04,440
the point already where I hit I only need like one or two more items and my

508
00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:11,920
builds complete and that is too much that's too much for me yeah and so like

509
00:44:11,920 --> 00:44:17,800
the campaign's really good leveling up feels really good the game is better

510
00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:22,760
than what I thought it was going to be because I played like I said I played in

511
00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:28,000
the cult closed beta I played for about four hours got bored initiated a refund

512
00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:34,440
and I refunded the game because I was just I I looked at the game and we didn't

513
00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:38,240
have access to the paragon system which the paragon system is so much better

514
00:44:38,240 --> 00:44:43,920
I've heard so much better I've heard like it's actually pretty decent it's not

515
00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:50,480
path of exile statuary decent but it's okay enough it's getting there you know

516
00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:55,760
it's got some depth to it it has some different customization to it where it's

517
00:44:55,760 --> 00:45:03,680
it what you do in the way that you build your character actually matters but I

518
00:45:03,680 --> 00:45:14,080
can already tell Diablo 4 will never meet the expectations of a Diablo 2

519
00:45:14,080 --> 00:45:20,120
player that's wanting something to grab them and hold them like Diablo 2 did

520
00:45:20,120 --> 00:45:25,320
yeah cuz I mean that the replay factor again exactly yeah you could play D 2

521
00:45:25,320 --> 00:45:29,920
fucking 20 years later mm-hmm right and there's still things that I have for is

522
00:45:29,920 --> 00:45:36,640
gonna be one of those it's gonna be like three or it's one and done I maybe maybe

523
00:45:36,640 --> 00:45:40,800
some DLC but it's well it's gonna have multiple expansions I have a feeling

524
00:45:40,800 --> 00:45:47,800
it's gonna be like fuck what was that game it's like they would go play the

525
00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:53,400
game beat it real quick go play something else Call of Duty might be one

526
00:45:53,400 --> 00:45:57,240
of them or something but like they'll play it they'll go play something else

527
00:45:57,240 --> 00:46:02,480
all DLC comes back everybody rushes to this you know finishes it goes back to

528
00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:08,480
some else more than likely um I hate that I like games that I can keep playing

529
00:46:08,480 --> 00:46:13,400
yeah you know what I mean like the that's where destiny came in mm-hmm you

530
00:46:13,400 --> 00:46:18,880
know it's so massive I haven't even scratched maybe 30% of that game and I've

531
00:46:18,880 --> 00:46:26,080
been playing since young forever like we're on our fifth expansion so it's

532
00:46:26,080 --> 00:46:32,160
like six years playing this game damn I didn't remember it was that old I yeah

533
00:46:32,160 --> 00:46:39,000
we got my PS4 one year one was destiny to mm-hmm so yeah your one was

534
00:46:39,000 --> 00:46:49,920
destiny too we had what forsaken fuck something beyond light which queen and

535
00:46:49,920 --> 00:46:54,800
then light fall yeah so like five expansion damn six expansion that's uh

536
00:46:54,800 --> 00:46:59,840
that's a lot so a lot of times six seven years well it's like one every I think

537
00:46:59,840 --> 00:47:04,560
it's one every year is what it's been it's always in like February mm-hmm

538
00:47:04,560 --> 00:47:08,400
it's always a big massive expansion something new drops with it yada yada

539
00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:16,640
last one sucked that's shitty I hated it I haven't picked it back up damn I

540
00:47:16,640 --> 00:47:20,600
literally have not touched it I played it for like a few weeks pretty much beat

541
00:47:20,600 --> 00:47:26,080
the like main missions of the expansion mm-hmm I was like fuck this yeah they

542
00:47:26,080 --> 00:47:32,600
just they ruined PvP and that's yeah I mean like the the iron banner you've

543
00:47:32,600 --> 00:47:36,800
played destiny right yeah I never got into PvP though I that's well I'm coming

544
00:47:36,800 --> 00:47:41,960
from Call of Duty I'm a huge apex apex like I've like lost my tenacity to play

545
00:47:41,960 --> 00:47:50,360
PvP really yeah I used to be a very aggressive loud like like tenacious for

546
00:47:50,360 --> 00:47:55,320
a better you're his person big tenacious and yeah exactly and I just don't have

547
00:47:55,320 --> 00:47:58,920
that same tenacity anymore no you just want to just yeah I just want to sit

548
00:47:58,920 --> 00:48:04,200
back and like and see so the campaign place played apex legends fucking

549
00:48:04,200 --> 00:48:08,000
religiously I still play it every so often a bit I was big in a Titanfall

550
00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:12,640
like the first person shooters I was big on Halo I haven't played Call of Duty in

551
00:48:12,640 --> 00:48:16,240
years though neither have I I played the lot of Cold War was the last one I

552
00:48:16,240 --> 00:48:20,640
touched Cold War was actually that was it was pretty good I can't lie it was

553
00:48:20,640 --> 00:48:24,560
pretty good I'm a huge black ops person was that trying to remember was Cold War

554
00:48:24,560 --> 00:48:31,800
the one where it was they had a couple scenes in like Russia I think so because

555
00:48:31,800 --> 00:48:37,480
I think I may have played that one they used I don't know this this this voice

556
00:48:37,480 --> 00:48:44,560
actress chick that I really like but I think they used her as the face for one

557
00:48:44,560 --> 00:48:49,200
of the one of the characters if I'm not mistaken I can't remember the fucking

558
00:48:49,200 --> 00:48:54,360
campaign very much right now yeah it's but I the multiplayer the

559
00:48:54,360 --> 00:49:00,040
gameplay for it was it was really good it was smooth it was like you know your

560
00:49:00,040 --> 00:49:03,880
hit markers were actually on point no that's I play a lot of hardcore that's

561
00:49:03,880 --> 00:49:10,800
that's why I can't play CS go you know okay you know a game is good though have

562
00:49:10,800 --> 00:49:19,080
you played X Defiant no I have a lot about it so I me and my co-host you you

563
00:49:19,080 --> 00:49:23,340
know Ferg right you've listened to the show listen to the yeah so he got me

564
00:49:23,340 --> 00:49:29,520
turned into it and so like like two days later I got a code right and it is

565
00:49:29,520 --> 00:49:34,440
they're calling it the cod killer what do you think you think that's true it is

566
00:49:34,440 --> 00:49:38,120
absolutely true yeah I'm gonna have to check it out then so there is an open

567
00:49:38,120 --> 00:49:45,040
beta coming okay next weekend the 21st so it's like on a Wednesday oh that's

568
00:49:45,040 --> 00:49:49,140
so from like Wednesday to I think it's like Wednesday morning to Saturday

569
00:49:49,140 --> 00:49:52,840
morning oh that's great full open beta schedule perfect but you're only gonna

570
00:49:52,840 --> 00:49:56,880
get you know same thing we got in the closed beta which I mean it was laggy

571
00:49:56,880 --> 00:50:01,840
like it glitched in and out it took a little bit to get into a match but it

572
00:50:01,840 --> 00:50:06,600
was fucking dope is it I play I couldn't put it down were you able to play beta

573
00:50:06,600 --> 00:50:12,560
on your console I put it on the Xbox interesting and he so Ferg plays on PC

574
00:50:12,560 --> 00:50:18,440
I put it on the series X mm-hmm and then I try to get my buddy on his PS5 just

575
00:50:18,440 --> 00:50:24,480
so I can compare but he somehow was lazy and didn't get in even I got him codes

576
00:50:24,480 --> 00:50:28,880
because you could do a refer a friend mm-hmm or you just go on Twitch and you

577
00:50:28,880 --> 00:50:34,160
watch somebody playing it and then he sends you one no and you get a drop

578
00:50:34,160 --> 00:50:37,360
they sent twitch send you a drop for it that's how I had to get it you gotta

579
00:50:37,360 --> 00:50:41,240
watch I think it was 30 minutes or an hour I was gonna say it's usually pretty

580
00:50:41,240 --> 00:50:47,960
small consecutive yeah and then you had a chance to get a beta code drop and I

581
00:50:47,960 --> 00:50:52,920
got yeah I got lucky to get one early yeah I and I was addicted to the one

582
00:50:52,920 --> 00:50:58,000
reason it's still pre-installed on my Xbox in there still installed it's like

583
00:50:58,000 --> 00:51:02,120
50 something gigabytes the only reason I've even heard of it is all the

584
00:51:02,120 --> 00:51:08,600
controversy going on right now with Call of Duty like it's these these game

585
00:51:08,600 --> 00:51:15,480
companies man these companies in general so it's made by Ubisoft but it's X but

586
00:51:15,480 --> 00:51:21,200
they're caught there are right yes from like the original black ops and modern

587
00:51:21,200 --> 00:51:26,640
warfare back when cod was really good back when it had that feeling and kept

588
00:51:26,640 --> 00:51:31,400
you in the game like yeah back in black ops 1 2 modern warfare 2 & 3

589
00:51:31,400 --> 00:51:36,280
like that's all I played yeah no there were I literally went and bought new

590
00:51:36,280 --> 00:51:40,640
consoles to play Call of Duty yeah I had what everybody does now yeah these new

591
00:51:40,640 --> 00:51:45,800
Call of Duty's are fucking just trash they are and they're there they're

592
00:51:45,800 --> 00:51:49,600
getting granted Ferg would disagree way too much of a focus on like the battle

593
00:51:49,600 --> 00:51:53,960
pass yeah this whole battle passion and I blame fortnight for that live service

594
00:51:53,960 --> 00:51:58,200
I blame PUBG and fortnight for that yeah that's for this whole battle pass

595
00:51:58,200 --> 00:52:03,920
service which is cool even Diablo 4 has a fucking battle pass like that was when

596
00:52:03,920 --> 00:52:09,880
I saw that I almost I was just like are you fucking serious right now has battle

597
00:52:09,880 --> 00:52:15,000
passes yeah apex legends fucking the only game that I think I've played so

598
00:52:15,000 --> 00:52:21,440
recently that didn't have a battle pass was Hogwarts oh that game was so good I

599
00:52:21,440 --> 00:52:26,800
saw him beat it all the way I have it like I'm at like 75 80% yeah and I won't

600
00:52:26,800 --> 00:52:30,560
I haven't finished it yet I think that's how almost everyone got I'm just leaving

601
00:52:30,560 --> 00:52:34,240
it like I don't want to kill it yet I just well Guardians have did you play

602
00:52:34,240 --> 00:52:37,960
the Guardians of the Galaxy game no my son played it for a couple hours I

603
00:52:37,960 --> 00:52:41,480
watched him play I pre-ordered it because I was so excited it looks so

604
00:52:41,480 --> 00:52:46,480
good you know on the new console and all that I beat it in like a week like

605
00:52:46,480 --> 00:52:50,320
hundred percent there's like there's nothing I can go back and replay other

606
00:52:50,320 --> 00:52:55,880
than just nostalgia this yeah so I paid the good chunk of money beat it in a

607
00:52:55,880 --> 00:53:01,520
week and I did not want to do that to Hogwarts I I can understand that my son

608
00:53:01,520 --> 00:53:08,080
did that was spider-man he wanted a Spider-Man game so bad which one um the

609
00:53:08,080 --> 00:53:12,040
PlayStation one when they came in on PlayStation well there was that one and

610
00:53:12,040 --> 00:53:15,520
then the Miles Morales not miles Morales okay it was the first one so the first

611
00:53:15,520 --> 00:53:22,240
one okay so I specifically I have a ps4 like not a pro nothing just regular ps4

612
00:53:22,240 --> 00:53:27,840
I got it from it's funny story my sister's ex-boyfriend for free because

613
00:53:27,840 --> 00:53:33,960
he he was done with it he's an Xbox player he just had it he's like you want

614
00:53:33,960 --> 00:53:41,000
to play spider-man I know do you want it like yeah only for spider-man I guess you

615
00:53:41,000 --> 00:53:45,120
know so he hooked it up I bought spider-man the DLC I was like okay it's

616
00:53:45,120 --> 00:53:48,160
the only reason I'll touch a PlayStation I still haven't played God of War

617
00:53:48,160 --> 00:53:51,520
neither the none of the God of War's I'm not a PlayStation guy anymore

618
00:53:51,520 --> 00:53:56,040
the God of War games are good man I have the first one not all the first of the

619
00:53:56,040 --> 00:53:59,680
new one yeah yeah no I don't have Ragnarok I don't either which my brother

620
00:53:59,680 --> 00:54:02,960
is like here you borrow it I have it I didn't get to play the Final Fantasy

621
00:54:02,960 --> 00:54:07,760
remake either which I heard was really good it was good I can go borrow it at

622
00:54:07,760 --> 00:54:14,200
any time too yeah but I played the shit out of the first spider-man I'm at like

623
00:54:14,200 --> 00:54:19,200
99% on my trophies I need one more trophy and all of my platinum and it is

624
00:54:19,200 --> 00:54:25,760
so good that I won't touch Miles Morales and now I gotta go find a PS5 and play

625
00:54:25,760 --> 00:54:30,780
spider-man 2 yeah cuz the remaster so Miles Morales was just a reskin to me

626
00:54:30,780 --> 00:54:38,560
yeah I was I mean I don't like I don't like the the multiverse thing like the

627
00:54:38,560 --> 00:54:43,560
whole concept of the multiverse is something that I don't like don't like

628
00:54:43,560 --> 00:54:49,040
or don't like what do you mean I don't like the idea in comic books where

629
00:54:49,040 --> 00:54:53,720
they're like it's spider-man but it's Miles Morales it's from a different

630
00:54:53,720 --> 00:54:59,320
universe well Miles Morales is in the regular universe they both coexist at

631
00:54:59,320 --> 00:55:03,280
the same time I thought it was a multiverse thing no so the whole end of

632
00:55:03,280 --> 00:55:08,340
the spider-verse thing mm-hmm was different but Miles was always in the

633
00:55:08,340 --> 00:55:13,300
original comic line the original earth 616 this is where you're getting into my

634
00:55:13,300 --> 00:55:20,320
realm here yeah so yeah the original miles was with spider-man he was trained

635
00:55:20,320 --> 00:55:25,240
by spider-man our original Peter Parker and then there was the multi for the

636
00:55:25,240 --> 00:55:30,640
spider-verse where it's actually if you dive into the whole spider-verse story

637
00:55:30,640 --> 00:55:35,320
not like the movies I mean the movies did pretty good I haven't seen the new

638
00:55:35,320 --> 00:55:42,480
one yet but the spider-verse as a whole itself is a really cool concept it's

639
00:55:42,480 --> 00:55:47,680
almost like flash you know flash I do know flash I so how like the speed force

640
00:55:47,680 --> 00:55:51,560
like connected all the flashes together kind of they're all it's kind of like

641
00:55:51,560 --> 00:55:59,040
that okay where the web of destiny like each strand goes to its own spider-verse

642
00:55:59,040 --> 00:56:02,960
interest much okay it's I would I would do some research into it it's pretty

643
00:56:02,960 --> 00:56:07,200
good I might I might have to but yeah my eyes I've kind of just fallen out of

644
00:56:07,200 --> 00:56:11,400
that for the most part like well not just that but now we're really diving

645
00:56:11,400 --> 00:56:16,800
into it with all the new movies coming out it's like it's all about multiverse

646
00:56:16,800 --> 00:56:22,920
yeah and I just everything's multiverse I which I mean I'm excited I love

647
00:56:22,920 --> 00:56:28,140
multiverse theory I am huge and I'd much rather multiverse theory than time

648
00:56:28,140 --> 00:56:33,840
travel and that's but that's me I don't know like I don't really like any of

649
00:56:33,840 --> 00:56:42,680
those no I would just like if it was me I would watch 27 27 films with Robert

650
00:56:42,680 --> 00:56:49,480
Downey jr. as Tony Stark I would be okay with that like like give me Toby

651
00:56:49,480 --> 00:56:55,920
McGuire a spider-man like really yeah you want Toby yeah I mean we got Toby but I

652
00:56:55,920 --> 00:57:02,040
feel like Toby did it best he was goofy he was weird he was a nerd he was

653
00:57:02,040 --> 00:57:09,120
unattractive but not too unattractive I didn't like him as I didn't I mean he

654
00:57:09,120 --> 00:57:15,160
was a good spider-man yeah but he wasn't a good Peter Parker to me why well or

655
00:57:15,160 --> 00:57:18,560
maybe it was no he was the he was a good Peter Parker not a good spider-man he

656
00:57:18,560 --> 00:57:24,260
wasn't as you know quippy that's true he wasn't as witty he wasn't like even when

657
00:57:24,260 --> 00:57:28,760
he's fighting and being serious he's fun mm-hmm I didn't I felt like he was too

658
00:57:28,760 --> 00:57:34,560
serious okay I Andrew Garfield I felt did a good spider-man horrible Peter

659
00:57:34,560 --> 00:57:39,480
Parker too exactly and then I think that Tom Holland is my favorite Tom Holland

660
00:57:39,480 --> 00:57:43,240
has like good but I'm gonna be completely honest Tom Holland is way too

661
00:57:43,240 --> 00:57:48,860
sexy to be Peter Parker that is very true like it is very true but I feel like he

662
00:57:48,860 --> 00:57:54,360
has just mastered it yeah I mean it sucks because Civil War when they casted

663
00:57:54,360 --> 00:57:58,320
Tom Holland I was like this is gonna fuck suck I don't know this kid yeah I

664
00:57:58,320 --> 00:58:02,280
know nothing about him I was like this is gonna fuck it suck why not just grab

665
00:58:02,280 --> 00:58:05,680
my Andrew Garfield I liked Andrew Garfield mm-hmm like the amazing

666
00:58:05,680 --> 00:58:10,720
spider-man was meh but like I had this whole theory of like how the amazing

667
00:58:10,720 --> 00:58:15,960
spider-man could have joined up for Civil War and they could have kept the two

668
00:58:15,960 --> 00:58:21,720
movies and then continued a third one yeah and they just fucked it but I'm

669
00:58:21,720 --> 00:58:26,900
not regretting I just I'm holding I fell in love with him homecoming far from

670
00:58:26,900 --> 00:58:32,840
home those felt like spider-man to me yeah he's good as spider-man that he

671
00:58:32,840 --> 00:58:37,000
was like in their 30s when he's too attractive to be Peter Parker yeah and

672
00:58:37,000 --> 00:58:46,120
that's that was one of the things like I was so awkward he does it so well he is

673
00:58:46,120 --> 00:58:53,640
but like with today's society like have you have you seen teenagers and like

674
00:58:53,640 --> 00:58:58,080
kids in their young 20s they all act like that nowadays they're all super

675
00:58:58,080 --> 00:59:03,880
awkward and weird you know partially autistic just kind of just jacked up on

676
00:59:03,880 --> 00:59:12,500
your yeah and but like you got a point back in our day that was not no that

677
00:59:12,500 --> 00:59:17,920
wasn't a thing no like socially awkward and all that that's where we were old

678
00:59:17,920 --> 00:59:24,520
school geeks yeah yeah like getting you know picked on like that I did that yeah

679
00:59:24,520 --> 00:59:29,360
it was just on I mean I got picked on here and there it well I mean I'm over

680
00:59:29,360 --> 00:59:33,600
here I'm playing you Gio in the fucking cafeteria I was playing magic gathering

681
00:59:33,600 --> 00:59:39,520
hey I can do magic you Gio was my poison yeah but I was a tournament player so

682
00:59:39,520 --> 00:59:44,320
it was like lunchtime was like who want to run it yeah like I remember there

683
00:59:44,320 --> 00:59:50,360
was a kid in my school there was a kid in my high school who would just Molly

684
00:59:50,360 --> 00:59:54,520
want me in magic and then after I left school I started doing tournaments a lot

685
00:59:54,520 --> 01:00:02,120
and so my skill level like it went from like zero to 100 real exactly real quick

686
01:00:02,120 --> 01:00:05,800
and then I ran into him at a tournament and he wanted to play me for money and I

687
01:00:05,800 --> 01:00:10,520
was like cool put it on the table so we each threw down 20 bucks and I just beat

688
01:00:10,520 --> 01:00:16,400
the dog shit out of him and he was like how did this even happen I'm like dude I

689
01:00:16,400 --> 01:00:22,760
told you I'm not like you're not the same way yeah see that was me like I

690
01:00:22,760 --> 01:00:28,880
used to play everybody like we got a local card shop called the Batcave I

691
01:00:28,880 --> 01:00:31,840
don't know if you've ever heard of it it's been around for since I was a kid

692
01:00:31,840 --> 01:00:35,400
I've heard of it but I haven't been it's changed owners and changed locations

693
01:00:35,400 --> 01:00:41,880
but it's always remained the Batcave and it has been our source for Pokemon cards

694
01:00:41,880 --> 01:00:45,200
Yu-Gi-Oh cards like that's where they did like all the tournaments okay around

695
01:00:45,200 --> 01:00:51,120
here for a while until you went to like regionals and championships which I did

696
01:00:51,120 --> 01:00:54,400
and then there was another shop in Portland I can't remember the fucking

697
01:00:54,400 --> 01:00:59,960
name of it it was over off like Powell and Foster or something like that but I

698
01:00:59,960 --> 01:01:03,560
don't think it's there anymore that was the real the where the big

699
01:01:03,560 --> 01:01:09,680
tournaments kind of started getting held okay but Batcave used to do it and I

700
01:01:09,680 --> 01:01:14,040
would fucking run everybody I'd walk in there like oh I'm getting my ass beat by

701
01:01:14,040 --> 01:01:16,600
everybody and then I went and did you know a couple tournaments downtown

702
01:01:16,600 --> 01:01:22,400
Portland went up to like Pialup did a couple tournaments up there and just

703
01:01:22,400 --> 01:01:26,640
would come back to the Batcave like alright let's run it it's when you run

704
01:01:26,640 --> 01:01:30,000
it but I was also a hustler it was also alright I got these cars how much money

705
01:01:30,000 --> 01:01:34,000
you got yeah all right give me you know 20 bucks and this fucking blue eyes over

706
01:01:34,000 --> 01:01:38,400
here mm-hmm you know that's worth 50 bucks yeah you know and like on eBay and

707
01:01:38,400 --> 01:01:44,680
check prices that was me going to different stores allowed you to find

708
01:01:44,680 --> 01:01:49,260
different playing levels yeah different I mean I went from skills and it's like a

709
01:01:49,260 --> 01:01:53,880
fighting game I went from playing a I don't do you have you played Yu-Gi-Oh I

710
01:01:53,880 --> 01:01:58,000
have I did so I way back in the day originally when I started playing

711
01:01:58,000 --> 01:02:02,560
tournaments it was a crystal beast deck and I mean it was a good crystal beast

712
01:02:02,560 --> 01:02:07,200
deck I would outplay you you know outmaneuver you and wait kind of thing

713
01:02:07,200 --> 01:02:11,840
okay I sit back and wait they're the ones that die and go down into your spell

714
01:02:11,840 --> 01:02:16,440
thing I don't know it seems much more advanced than when I played I was like

715
01:02:16,440 --> 01:02:21,400
first gen Yu-Gi-Oh oh okay this was like third gen or whatever okay so a lot of

716
01:02:21,400 --> 01:02:24,360
stuff probably I played like a really it was a really slow deck not a lot of

717
01:02:24,360 --> 01:02:28,680
people played it mm-hmm and I realized why but I loved them that's when I was

718
01:02:28,680 --> 01:02:33,080
getting my ass whooped swapped decks into something else I learned how to play and

719
01:02:33,080 --> 01:02:38,680
I was it's so fast I could literally one shot like first turn done you're done

720
01:02:38,680 --> 01:02:43,560
you can't do anything I mean that's half my deck is in my hand type of shit yeah

721
01:02:43,560 --> 01:02:48,080
and it was like it was a whole different playing field it was so fun though you

722
01:02:48,080 --> 01:02:54,920
go got so fun and then it died it's card games themselves seem to have kind of

723
01:02:54,920 --> 01:03:00,200
started to dwindle away I mean magic kind of done the same thing yeah magic

724
01:03:00,200 --> 01:03:06,360
Pokemon really bad the Pokemon like actual game play for Pokemon TCG

725
01:03:06,360 --> 01:03:11,280
apparently is really good right now I never liked it I never liked Pokemon I

726
01:03:11,280 --> 01:03:15,000
never I collected them I collected I think I think all of us is kid yeah in

727
01:03:15,000 --> 01:03:22,600
the 90s but apparently the game was man it was okay like but many rules yeah and

728
01:03:22,600 --> 01:03:29,440
it was okay but apparently you can play online like and when you buy up an

729
01:03:29,440 --> 01:03:32,960
actual pack you get all those cards online yeah you get like a little code

730
01:03:32,960 --> 01:03:38,160
or something I was like that's that's pretty cool that's pretty tight like if

731
01:03:38,160 --> 01:03:41,920
that gives you incentive to go buy physical pack yeah without having to

732
01:03:41,920 --> 01:03:46,120
leave your house you can just play it cuz like Magic the Gathering has an app

733
01:03:46,120 --> 01:03:50,920
now where you can play you know Magic the Gathering it's called MTGA Magic the

734
01:03:50,920 --> 01:03:54,520
Gathering arena okay and it's the same as Magic the Gathering but it's a

735
01:03:54,520 --> 01:03:59,520
digital card game and I'm just like I'm not gonna spin like I will go and buy

736
01:03:59,520 --> 01:04:04,880
decks I'll go and buy cards just to have yeah but I'm not gonna buy digital

737
01:04:04,880 --> 01:04:09,080
copies of these cards that and I the decks that I want to build are no longer

738
01:04:09,080 --> 01:04:13,480
legal so I can't build them in the game because the game runs off of a standard

739
01:04:13,480 --> 01:04:18,080
or type 2 format right same thing with yeah and it's just like no like I can't

740
01:04:18,080 --> 01:04:22,000
build the decks that I used to play like an unrestricted match yeah like a

741
01:04:22,000 --> 01:04:27,160
sliver deck exactly I did play exactly I just couldn't get into it yeah it's but

742
01:04:27,160 --> 01:04:32,240
I want the shit out of some people those sliver decks were fucking impenetrable

743
01:04:32,240 --> 01:04:38,600
yeah so long crazy good and it's and then they killed them yep which is good

744
01:04:38,600 --> 01:04:45,440
it needed it they're unsuspecting it's it's yeah it's 50-50 yeah there's a new

745
01:04:45,440 --> 01:04:48,640
card game though that I've been that I've been playing a bit that I've been

746
01:04:48,640 --> 01:04:55,120
picking up cards called flesh and blood okay and it's the best way that I've

747
01:04:55,120 --> 01:05:00,720
heard it explained is it's like a fighting game like imagine a card game

748
01:05:00,720 --> 01:05:06,320
version of Tekken so like you have your character you have your champion and

749
01:05:06,320 --> 01:05:13,720
your champion has a weapon and some gear that they can use or no gear whatever

750
01:05:13,720 --> 01:05:20,280
mm-hmm and the way that the turns are is there's an attacker and a defender you

751
01:05:20,280 --> 01:05:24,840
draw cards at the end of your turn not at the beginning of your turn so you

752
01:05:24,840 --> 01:05:29,200
really have to balance how you're gonna defend because if you throw all your

753
01:05:29,200 --> 01:05:33,560
cards on your defense is he don't know how many draw attack okay well that's

754
01:05:33,560 --> 01:05:38,360
that's the thing if you draw at the end of your turn and you're like let's say

755
01:05:38,360 --> 01:05:41,920
it's your turn you attack me you throw everything at me I don't want to take

756
01:05:41,920 --> 01:05:47,540
any damage so I use all the cards in my hand to defend everything you say go you

757
01:05:47,540 --> 01:05:51,040
draw your cards at the end of your turn so you've got a handful of cards to

758
01:05:51,040 --> 01:05:54,760
block with but I just blew all my cards on you've got nothing to attack so I

759
01:05:54,760 --> 01:05:59,280
have nothing it's kind of fun so you have to really find that balance you

760
01:05:59,280 --> 01:06:02,520
know what that kind of reminds me of though did you ever play hearthstone I

761
01:06:02,520 --> 01:06:08,000
did play hearthstone I still play it I don't I played it for a little bit I

762
01:06:08,000 --> 01:06:14,240
played the beta for so long I've I'm off and on with it so I'll go like a season

763
01:06:14,240 --> 01:06:18,000
I won't play and then I'll play and then I won't play and it's kind of kind of

764
01:06:18,000 --> 01:06:22,640
what that sounds like minus the other monsters you some um the whole champion

765
01:06:22,640 --> 01:06:28,560
and yeah in like with that one champion so the way that it is is it's like when

766
01:06:28,560 --> 01:06:33,680
you're the attacker you start a combat chain like it'll be a lot easier that's

767
01:06:33,680 --> 01:06:38,800
kind of sounds like you go sort of yes that's how they did it was chaining yeah

768
01:06:38,800 --> 01:06:43,080
it's like a culmination of like a bunch of different card games and like even

769
01:06:43,080 --> 01:06:48,240
the mana system like everything is based on you have a small amount of resources

770
01:06:48,240 --> 01:06:54,080
so use it wisely so you start out your turn with zero mana you have to discard

771
01:06:54,080 --> 01:07:00,160
cards from your hand and depending on the card you'll get either one two or

772
01:07:00,160 --> 01:07:04,600
three mana and then you use those cards to actually cast the other cards in your

773
01:07:04,600 --> 01:07:12,080
hand hmm and it's it's like it's like a sacrifice yeah you got a really blood

774
01:07:12,080 --> 01:07:17,400
sweat and tears exactly blood of flesh and blood and that's kind of sounds fun

775
01:07:17,400 --> 01:07:23,360
and it's very intriguing it's it's the most fun I've had in a card game for

776
01:07:23,360 --> 01:07:29,880
a really really really long time hmm so and it's new like it's super new it's

777
01:07:29,880 --> 01:07:34,360
it's the card game that a lot of like old-school magic magic the gathering

778
01:07:34,360 --> 01:07:40,120
players are going to because it's something new it's something familiar

779
01:07:40,120 --> 01:07:44,440
and magic kind of sucks right now right and they've continued to suck for the

780
01:07:44,440 --> 01:07:48,760
past like five years and they're just getting worse and worse and worse though

781
01:07:48,760 --> 01:07:56,080
yeah it's a blast so I've been playing that kind of almost like did you ever

782
01:07:56,080 --> 01:08:01,360
play uh was the hero clicks did you ever play those no I never fucked with hero

783
01:08:01,360 --> 01:08:07,420
clicks those were so fun I I didn't get like super deep into it but I did play a

784
01:08:07,420 --> 01:08:11,920
little bit enough to collect like it was like enough for a team or two it was

785
01:08:11,920 --> 01:08:16,360
like superhero mage night right kind of superhero warhammer yeah more warhammer

786
01:08:16,360 --> 01:08:22,240
than anything but it was it was you know Marvel and comics and I think they had

787
01:08:22,240 --> 01:08:26,600
like other stuff too mine was mostly the Marvel stuff but it was it was tight

788
01:08:26,600 --> 01:08:30,040
it's kind of the same thing as warhammer you know you get the little figurines

789
01:08:30,040 --> 01:08:33,800
you got stuff on the bottom it gives you a little stats and shit little yeah like

790
01:08:33,800 --> 01:08:39,120
a little emblem with some numbers and a little Turner you know you would turn

791
01:08:39,120 --> 01:08:43,240
the bottom of it with a number kind of like a dial like yeah the click part

792
01:08:43,240 --> 01:08:48,080
that was your like your health and shit and then you would have cards too so

793
01:08:48,080 --> 01:08:53,560
like power-up cards you roll dice and shit it's pretty cool you get a little

794
01:08:53,560 --> 01:08:58,800
map like a little paper map out so it was a miniature game yeah like okay like

795
01:08:58,800 --> 01:09:03,040
they're a little warhammer cuz I play it was more like warhammer than anything I

796
01:09:03,040 --> 01:09:08,880
mean made like so when I played games like that there were like three three

797
01:09:08,880 --> 01:09:14,400
that most people played and then hero clicks was like the one they kind of

798
01:09:14,400 --> 01:09:18,360
occasionally people would play off in the side right it was warhammer which

799
01:09:18,360 --> 01:09:22,720
was like toys warhammer you know warhammer mage night and mage night was

800
01:09:22,720 --> 01:09:27,960
essentially fantasy yeah I never got to play it but I didn't watch some people

801
01:09:27,960 --> 01:09:32,840
play it yeah and I knew about it there was war machine yeah that one I didn't

802
01:09:32,840 --> 01:09:40,040
war machine was similar to warhammer but the armies were a lot smaller okay

803
01:09:40,040 --> 01:09:44,400
normally yeah like you know I've seen some future figurines I've seen some

804
01:09:44,400 --> 01:09:48,680
warhammer shit and it's like how do you carry you're carrying like a fucking

805
01:09:48,680 --> 01:09:53,400
cars worth of yeah figurines with you for like one battle you got to go get a

806
01:09:53,400 --> 01:09:57,280
fucking a Kano line van just to take your fucking army yeah and it's like

807
01:09:57,280 --> 01:10:03,800
you're gonna go play for fucking six hours on one match yeah if that ends in

808
01:10:03,800 --> 01:10:09,160
six hours it probably takes you this fucking you got a little mini school bus

809
01:10:09,160 --> 01:10:14,920
take all this shit yeah it's fucking crazy like a fucking horse trailer like

810
01:10:14,920 --> 01:10:19,240
yeah yeah what the fuck it's almost to the point where if you're gonna get into

811
01:10:19,240 --> 01:10:22,000
warhammer you need to make sure that you've got a piece of property with a

812
01:10:22,000 --> 01:10:25,720
barn that you can just convert into your playing field and you got to have a lot

813
01:10:25,720 --> 01:10:31,920
of money yeah a lot of time to paint figurines mm-hmm I've seen yeah which I

814
01:10:31,920 --> 01:10:35,040
mean you can just paint the figurines quick and dirty but like nobody wants

815
01:10:35,040 --> 01:10:38,280
to do that no like you want to invest your time into it you want I can't I

816
01:10:38,280 --> 01:10:42,320
can't draw I can't paint I can't I can't draw for shit paintings different

817
01:10:42,320 --> 01:10:45,040
though the lines are already there that's true you just got to paint within

818
01:10:45,040 --> 01:10:51,360
the lines yeah it's it's this is not for me it's uh yeah I mean you're looking at

819
01:10:51,360 --> 01:10:55,880
spending 10 to 20 hours on painting a piece I will tell you you'll be the first

820
01:10:55,880 --> 01:11:01,880
one to know and then the podcast is gonna know but I am trying I need to find

821
01:11:01,880 --> 01:11:06,800
a really good artist I'm trying to create my own card game that would be

822
01:11:06,800 --> 01:11:10,200
I've been working on it for a few years yeah I just won't tell you what it is

823
01:11:10,200 --> 01:11:14,460
yet okay but it's kind of like old-school Yu-Gi-Oh and magic okay than

824
01:11:14,460 --> 01:11:19,880
anything maybe with a little bit of the like collecting of Pokemon mm-hmm but

825
01:11:19,880 --> 01:11:24,480
the whole point is to have quick matches not like fucking an hour-long match no

826
01:11:24,480 --> 01:11:30,920
it's boom no the quicker you are the more you get type thing okay but yeah

827
01:11:30,920 --> 01:11:37,040
yeah I mean we need more card games cuz like I love card games were my thing

828
01:11:37,040 --> 01:11:41,960
they sides Pokemon it was like it was card games it but it was like fun we get

829
01:11:41,960 --> 01:11:47,280
laughed at like and I got ridiculed more for playing you know you go and magic

830
01:11:47,280 --> 01:11:53,160
then walking around with my fucking 3ds or my Nintendo DS at school playing

831
01:11:53,160 --> 01:11:59,360
Pokemon yeah like it was weird like and then now everybody plays Pokemon yeah

832
01:11:59,360 --> 01:12:03,960
everybody won't go fucking it blew up and everybody plays well what's funny is

833
01:12:03,960 --> 01:12:09,040
like the shit that we used to get picked on play Pokemon is now what the cool

834
01:12:09,040 --> 01:12:12,840
kids are doing that's what I mean like does that mean we have to stop liking it

835
01:12:12,840 --> 01:12:17,640
now I mean kind of that's kind of what drew us to it was because it was different

836
01:12:17,640 --> 01:12:21,880
and we liked it nobody else liked it now everybody fucking loves everybody loves

837
01:12:21,880 --> 01:12:27,680
it and it's like everybody watches yeah my wife doesn't but well she my wife

838
01:12:27,680 --> 01:12:32,160
watches way more anime than I do my wife cannot stand it well I get I just get

839
01:12:32,160 --> 01:12:36,760
but she's a lot of the times yeah but it lets me do what I do yeah but like

840
01:12:36,760 --> 01:12:46,480
comic books anime fucking the all these games like Demon Slayer so popular like

841
01:12:46,480 --> 01:12:51,000
big popular everybody knows that show well everyone's in love with Nezuko

842
01:12:51,000 --> 01:12:55,560
all right everybody but me yeah I see it as I'm like she's a little girl dude

843
01:12:55,560 --> 01:13:02,880
this was like 1800s bro fuck but a lot of people are weird man like manga is

844
01:13:02,880 --> 01:13:09,200
big now again have you heard of the rip a verse yes I have yeah tell me about

845
01:13:09,200 --> 01:13:14,040
that did you order it I have it okay so you didn't tell me about it a new one

846
01:13:14,040 --> 01:13:19,840
just went live I got to show you this a new one like today the pre-order campaign

847
01:13:19,840 --> 01:13:24,800
went live like three days ago oh yeah this is the one you told me about like

848
01:13:24,800 --> 01:13:30,880
it's all connected what is that that's how much money they've made in the past

849
01:13:30,880 --> 01:13:40,600
like four days oh my god almost 1.5 million off of pre-orders Jesus and

850
01:13:40,600 --> 01:13:46,640
their goal was 350,000 you made a mill and a half I someone which was the first

851
01:13:46,640 --> 01:13:52,840
one that they put out he made like three mil Jesus and this is just the manga

852
01:13:52,840 --> 01:13:57,240
isn't it yeah it's just a comic book yeah it's like the first one was 90

853
01:13:57,240 --> 01:14:02,760
pages this one's like a hundred and something pages yeah see I need to find

854
01:14:02,760 --> 01:14:08,160
an artist I had the idea for a fucking manga for so long and I've tried to like

855
01:14:08,160 --> 01:14:12,000
type it in pro because I I've been writing like I got like three different

856
01:14:12,000 --> 01:14:15,680
books I'm in the curb like trying to write sitting on that other laptop

857
01:14:15,680 --> 01:14:21,440
sitting there but I can't visually get it all right and I've been wanting to do

858
01:14:21,440 --> 01:14:26,080
manga for so long and so like I need to find a good artist for that plus the car

859
01:14:26,080 --> 01:14:30,560
game plus you know a few things yeah I'm not trying to learn how to draw no

860
01:14:30,560 --> 01:14:34,920
that's what I'm not fucking with that I'm yeah but if I find a really good one

861
01:14:34,920 --> 01:14:40,680
I got a lot of money to be made like just sitting on the table if I find the

862
01:14:40,680 --> 01:14:44,720
right person waiting to make it yeah like we could do a lot of shit but

863
01:14:44,720 --> 01:14:50,240
that's fucking crazy yeah well and like that's his thing he's like I I'm not an

864
01:14:50,240 --> 01:14:55,640
artist like I can write music I can write stories I have ideas and somebody

865
01:14:55,640 --> 01:15:02,040
else just draws it exactly so he went and hired Stan Lee yeah cuz he went and

866
01:15:02,040 --> 01:15:07,000
hired Jack Kirby right there yeah well and he's getting like like veterans

867
01:15:07,000 --> 01:15:11,720
from Marvel from DC like a what that kind of price yeah

868
01:15:11,720 --> 01:15:17,440
Gabe El Taibbi is one of his one of the person that's working for him Cliff

869
01:15:17,440 --> 01:15:22,880
Richards works for him yeah like these are the Soska sisters are

870
01:15:22,880 --> 01:15:26,800
interest working for him now I'm gonna have to check it out yeah he's getting

871
01:15:26,800 --> 01:15:31,040
like big name people from the comic book industry that are being kind of

872
01:15:31,040 --> 01:15:36,760
ridiculed and becoming outcasts for simply not subscribing to the hardcore

873
01:15:36,760 --> 01:15:40,760
left-wing political ideology that's going on within so it's like cards and

874
01:15:40,760 --> 01:15:46,920
comics so it's like the jugalose of comics pretty much essentially yeah

875
01:15:46,920 --> 01:15:55,320
just the people that are like yeah no I'm not I'm not gonna bow down and

876
01:15:55,320 --> 01:16:00,840
subscribe to your fuck all that ideology I ain't doing that and yeah and that's

877
01:16:00,840 --> 01:16:06,440
tight yeah I gotta check it out it's I'm excited I ordered so I got isom number

878
01:16:06,440 --> 01:16:14,920
one with the very limited copy cover signed and then for isom 2 same thing

879
01:16:14,920 --> 01:16:20,080
except for isom 2 it's signed and it'll be graded and in a like a hard plastic

880
01:16:20,080 --> 01:16:26,720
case when I get it right and it's not the cheapest but I feel like one day

881
01:16:26,720 --> 01:16:30,960
it's what I could essentially be holding like you know Batman number one signed

882
01:16:30,960 --> 01:16:37,320
right spider-man number one sign it all starts somewhere exactly right and if it

883
01:16:37,320 --> 01:16:42,960
doesn't go anywhere whatever you enjoy it whatever you know so who knows that

884
01:16:42,960 --> 01:16:48,200
not in like you know your grandkids exactly finding your stuff like this

885
01:16:48,200 --> 01:16:53,720
graded comics in here that all of a sudden is the new spider-man number one

886
01:16:53,720 --> 01:16:57,960
or Superman number one and now you know my kids can either hold on you know

887
01:16:57,960 --> 01:17:01,680
white glove that shit hold on to it or become a multimillionaire whatever you

888
01:17:01,680 --> 01:17:06,440
do I don't care I'm dead same thing with a crypto too just fucking get it and

889
01:17:06,440 --> 01:17:10,800
forget about it let somebody else deal with it later basically they're coming

890
01:17:10,800 --> 01:17:17,000
down hard on crypto I know it's I can do a whole episode into that crazy right

891
01:17:17,000 --> 01:17:22,240
like an hour 17 minutes so far I was like I can do a whole nother hour just

892
01:17:22,240 --> 01:17:26,400
about crypto in the government right now yeah I was just talking to my wife's

893
01:17:26,400 --> 01:17:30,620
grandparents earlier like literally a few hours ago about the whole Fed now

894
01:17:30,620 --> 01:17:35,480
and crypto crackdown and oh my god they're they're coming down heavy on it

895
01:17:35,480 --> 01:17:39,960
and it is it's all about money they they want their fair share and they want the

896
01:17:39,960 --> 01:17:46,040
control yeah from the Fed now well we found a way to make money about

897
01:17:46,040 --> 01:17:51,240
everybody yeah where everybody has control mm-hmm and they they can't have

898
01:17:51,240 --> 01:17:55,640
a blockchain technology is fucking fascinating yeah the government can't

899
01:17:55,640 --> 01:18:00,200
have that like when I told I told my wife I was going to a podcast and she

900
01:18:00,200 --> 01:18:04,200
goes oh what are you doing it on I told her you know nerdy geeky shit geek shit

901
01:18:04,200 --> 01:18:08,460
she goes oh I thought you would be doing it on politics because she knows that

902
01:18:08,460 --> 01:18:12,080
that's like that's my thing is I follow politics pretty heavily I mean I can get

903
01:18:12,080 --> 01:18:19,080
into that and I'm just like no I don't think so but a little bit everything yeah

904
01:18:19,080 --> 01:18:26,360
I did I'm so frustrated that's what we used to do on on the ADHD show mm-hmm

905
01:18:26,360 --> 01:18:31,280
was like whatever the fuck we wanted to push buttons yeah on that show this

906
01:18:31,280 --> 01:18:35,960
one's a little bit more geeky but do whatever the fuck I want yeah I mean

907
01:18:35,960 --> 01:18:41,640
it's just so but I can get into all that for the thing that's frustrating me the

908
01:18:41,640 --> 01:18:46,480
most is

909
01:18:47,480 --> 01:18:56,920
in the Pacific Northwest we are going so insane with the tax money like we live

910
01:18:56,920 --> 01:19:03,800
in the most corrupt states in the entire Republic well I mean California

911
01:19:03,800 --> 01:19:09,120
California is pretty corrupt but they're open about it yeah okay that's a good

912
01:19:09,120 --> 01:19:14,280
point like they're like yeah we're gonna take your money yeah and we're telling

913
01:19:14,280 --> 01:19:18,480
you about it is it Oregon they try to they try to hide in sweepin Oregon hides

914
01:19:18,480 --> 01:19:25,240
everything they they did try an audit like two years ago and they found

915
01:19:25,240 --> 01:19:31,720
billions literally billions of money that just was disappearing mm-hmm and

916
01:19:31,720 --> 01:19:37,600
they wonder why the never was so fucking high yeah and it's like like the OLCC

917
01:19:37,600 --> 01:19:45,680
hello like there were like 37 different accounts of misallocated funds in the

918
01:19:45,680 --> 01:19:52,960
OLCC alone yeah that's the Commission that controls the liquor and the weed

919
01:19:52,960 --> 01:19:59,720
now imagine that compared to Florida right now I haven't even followed

920
01:19:59,720 --> 01:20:06,000
Florida no no Florida's like I think probably the biggest right wing around

921
01:20:06,000 --> 01:20:08,880
right now mm-hmm he's the he's the big dick

922
01:20:08,880 --> 01:20:14,000
yeah and telling everybody to get back Texas has kind of been middle ground

923
01:20:14,000 --> 01:20:18,680
there yeah they're kind of playing it low a little bit Florida's like flop it

924
01:20:18,680 --> 01:20:23,240
on the table in front of the world type shit they don't give fuck right now yeah

925
01:20:23,240 --> 01:20:28,200
and it's that's beautiful that's how it should be there's a there's actually

926
01:20:28,200 --> 01:20:32,280
like a full-on video you can find it on YouTube from like I think it was like a

927
01:20:32,280 --> 01:20:38,440
year or two ago what who was I think it was the governor to Santa it wasn't to

928
01:20:38,440 --> 01:20:42,480
Santa's it was an older dude might have been the chief of police or something it

929
01:20:42,480 --> 01:20:46,920
was somebody I can't remember specifically and it's bugging me but he

930
01:20:46,920 --> 01:20:50,920
pretty much had said that uh next time somebody's breaking into your house

931
01:20:50,920 --> 01:20:57,600
call a crackhead because they want to defund the police yeah yeah yeah I just

932
01:20:57,600 --> 01:21:00,680
die yeah that was a police commissioner I think he was the same one police

933
01:21:00,680 --> 01:21:06,280
commissioner there you go I think he was the older guy and they oh yeah he went

934
01:21:06,280 --> 01:21:09,560
on yeah it was the same dude that went on like a little rant and he was like if

935
01:21:09,560 --> 01:21:13,920
you break into someone's house expect to get shot we don't play that around here

936
01:21:13,920 --> 01:21:18,960
yeah yeah exactly cuz he's like um how was it like killed a bad guy he's like

937
01:21:18,960 --> 01:21:24,440
you're saving us money mm-hmm like you're saving us ammo yeah don't call

938
01:21:24,440 --> 01:21:29,280
us handle it yourself I'm like if I didn't like alligators so much I'd move

939
01:21:29,280 --> 01:21:34,440
down there right right I used to live in Florida man long long long long long

940
01:21:34,440 --> 01:21:38,800
time I've never even been there it's not even once it's uh something I can't do

941
01:21:38,800 --> 01:21:44,000
hurricanes either no the hurricanes the tornadoes the storms I mean the storms

942
01:21:44,000 --> 01:21:47,240
are fine but not when they're like I live in her living fucking Washington

943
01:21:47,240 --> 01:21:51,400
we don't get shit here no the weather up here so mild like we get a

944
01:21:51,400 --> 01:21:55,520
thunderstorm maybe once a year like where we actually see thunder like yeah

945
01:21:55,520 --> 01:22:01,120
but we get rain for like so ten months out of the year yeah and then those two

946
01:22:01,120 --> 01:22:04,560
months that it's not raining one of those months that's because everything's

947
01:22:04,560 --> 01:22:09,240
covered in ice and the other month it's like 120 degrees yeah like that's it

948
01:22:09,240 --> 01:22:12,920
that's all we get yeah like that's so there's a reason

949
01:22:12,920 --> 01:22:16,720
Subarus thrive up here right right they're good to drive in the rain snow

950
01:22:16,720 --> 01:22:26,240
ice heat heat doesn't matter but um yeah I think we need to let me to rope it in

951
01:22:26,240 --> 01:22:31,540
a little bit so you any shoutouts you wanna give I'm not really any shoutouts

952
01:22:31,540 --> 01:22:37,720
any I mean I am oceans anything I'm on YouTube myself as Corey Havoc that's

953
01:22:37,720 --> 01:22:45,040
right yeah um and I knew that and just yeah I get into the topics I just I

954
01:22:45,040 --> 01:22:48,000
don't know I don't even really make videos or anything anymore when I do

955
01:22:48,000 --> 01:22:51,520
it's just random one-offs maybe once a month I remember we were talking about

956
01:22:51,520 --> 01:22:56,280
having you come out and do videos for us yeah and then I just I started working

957
01:22:56,280 --> 01:23:01,760
and then I just kind of like I did get a new little webcam camera over there

958
01:23:01,760 --> 01:23:07,760
right there and there you go so it's a start yeah I need a new PC though yeah

959
01:23:07,760 --> 01:23:11,920
to run all that they're not too there I mean I just need to have somebody come

960
01:23:11,920 --> 01:23:15,720
and just video and just do all the editing for me right I'll do the audio

961
01:23:15,720 --> 01:23:20,880
side somebody else do the videos right but just wait till I get my studio built

962
01:23:20,880 --> 01:23:24,240
there you go yeah much nicer once I mean once you get the studio set up it'll be

963
01:23:24,240 --> 01:23:27,400
a lot easier because then you can you can start off doing the quick and dirty

964
01:23:27,400 --> 01:23:32,320
method you know just have a camera set up well my plan was the the tripod and

965
01:23:32,320 --> 01:23:36,560
the cell phone mm-hmm was just I mean I got fucking iPhones over here there you

966
01:23:36,560 --> 01:23:41,720
go yeah that'll work I pod set it up edit it later exactly it'll be was my

967
01:23:41,720 --> 01:23:45,240
thought easy to edit it right there on the iPhone mm-hmm not really have to

968
01:23:45,240 --> 01:23:49,320
worry about it and then from there you know you can make shorts make clips or

969
01:23:49,320 --> 01:23:55,960
even there was I think we were talking about getting more of the webcam stuff

970
01:23:55,960 --> 01:24:01,040
and while we're recording run OBS and live stream yeah straight to like

971
01:24:01,040 --> 01:24:05,540
twitch you could do where we can or even to YouTube yeah we can just download it

972
01:24:05,540 --> 01:24:11,440
later and upload the audio we have but if we do it through OBS the mics are

973
01:24:11,440 --> 01:24:16,040
already hooked to it it's already like boom yeah and then just rip the podcast

974
01:24:16,040 --> 01:24:20,600
from there and then that's that's an easy process to do also yeah it's just

975
01:24:20,600 --> 01:24:24,960
the computing power I need yeah I mean cuz with stream lives you can you can

976
01:24:24,960 --> 01:24:33,240
send it to YouTube twitch fucking yeah I got stream labs rumble all of it at the

977
01:24:33,240 --> 01:24:40,240
same time yeah but it's also my only problem is running OBS with Adobe so

978
01:24:40,240 --> 01:24:43,720
because recording the audio for the podcast all at the same time mm-hmm

979
01:24:43,720 --> 01:24:51,520
makes it a little meh yeah that might not work out too great yeah I don't know

980
01:24:51,520 --> 01:24:55,080
I've never tried it though I'm working on it though yeah so we build a studio

981
01:24:55,080 --> 01:24:58,280
make it look nice yeah I want to put video when you just like we're sitting

982
01:24:58,280 --> 01:25:02,960
in my bedroom I mean everyone starts somewhere my dressers or my wife's

983
01:25:02,960 --> 01:25:08,960
dressers they're like we got pictures hanging up like it's not a it works for

984
01:25:08,960 --> 01:25:12,400
now yeah it works I mean that's what mine is I just record from my bedroom

985
01:25:12,400 --> 01:25:19,080
right so well I'm lucky enough to have extra bedroom soon yeah I don't gonna

986
01:25:19,080 --> 01:25:22,400
they turn this garage into a room otherwise I would just take that room

987
01:25:22,400 --> 01:25:28,280
and then turn this into a whole big fucking studio yeah I mean there's

988
01:25:28,280 --> 01:25:31,680
bathroom right there bathroom shower and all that so I mean right there in the

989
01:25:31,680 --> 01:25:39,360
studio the only problem is I want a outside door yeah so I didn't have to

990
01:25:39,360 --> 01:25:44,120
come through the house everything just make them crawl through the window right

991
01:25:44,120 --> 01:25:48,680
I mean it's three stairs low enough when the AC is not in it I mean you

992
01:25:48,680 --> 01:25:55,800
literally could like I'm 511 I could literally just hop in yeah yeah just one

993
01:25:55,800 --> 01:25:59,080
foot at a time so I mean just as long as they're not too fat to hop a little bit

994
01:25:59,080 --> 01:26:04,840
right or too short or too short I mean it's it's a fairly big window to yeah

995
01:26:04,840 --> 01:26:08,920
big-ass dude should be able to fit through that hopefully just don't try

996
01:26:08,920 --> 01:26:18,520
it when I'm not here that's that's my warning yeah but yeah so I didn't you

997
01:26:18,520 --> 01:26:25,120
shout out the YouTube yeah just at Corey Havoc YT on YouTube that's it that's it

998
01:26:25,120 --> 01:26:30,000
that's it well thanks for coming of course man it's a little late I know I

999
01:26:30,000 --> 01:26:35,120
work overnights it's morning for me yeah right look it's Saturday night like I

1000
01:26:35,120 --> 01:26:41,360
do shit yeah but it's been wonderful so it's been fun I it's different without

1001
01:26:41,360 --> 01:26:46,720
my friend Zach here without my co-host mm-hmm different but he's not a fan of

1002
01:26:46,720 --> 01:26:53,520
Wow he never really played Wow or Diablo really so it doesn't really bother him

1003
01:26:53,520 --> 01:26:57,680
yeah I mean and that doesn't want to meet you though he did tell me yeah well

1004
01:26:57,680 --> 01:27:01,320
I'm sure we'll meet at some point yeah you're gonna come back for sure oh yeah

1005
01:27:01,320 --> 01:27:05,280
oh yeah for sure I'll tell you about this other I'll tell you the idea later

1006
01:27:05,280 --> 01:27:12,240
okay where you'll come back for sure yeah yeah and yeah we'll discuss it here

1007
01:27:12,240 --> 01:27:16,080
in the minute once uh let's we turn the podcast off yeah cuz I'm not telling

1008
01:27:16,080 --> 01:27:19,040
everybody else the plan yet no it's a big secret they can wait they heard about

1009
01:27:19,040 --> 01:27:22,720
the card game that was good enough I'm gonna give him a warning you know give

1010
01:27:22,720 --> 01:27:27,440
me five ten years right right be the next big thing as soon as I find somebody

1011
01:27:27,440 --> 01:27:32,640
to draw should just let should just let my kids do it you should my kids draw

1012
01:27:32,640 --> 01:27:36,760
some shit and then I'll fucking make this big complex like fucking magic game

1013
01:27:36,760 --> 01:27:40,120
out of it that would be actually pretty time and then they just over here with

1014
01:27:40,120 --> 01:27:46,400
like squiggles and I'll name it like fucking squiggles the destroyer it could

1015
01:27:46,400 --> 01:27:50,160
work man why am I giving out a million dollar idea I don't know I guess right

1016
01:27:50,160 --> 01:28:00,640
I don't know why you got to clip that off disregard all of that but anyways

1017
01:28:00,640 --> 01:28:06,880
yeah so this has been another episode I'm probably gonna throw this up a week

1018
01:28:06,880 --> 01:28:17,080
or two probably do we do weekly we already did an episode for this week I

1019
01:28:17,080 --> 01:28:22,920
don't know figure it out you'll be on there though for sure I have faith in

1020
01:28:22,920 --> 01:28:27,280
you oh yeah I've got so much like I've got bonus episodes ready to be released

1021
01:28:27,280 --> 01:28:32,560
I've got so much already like pre-recorded just just ready to go oh

1022
01:28:32,560 --> 01:28:36,200
yeah that's how you do it that will be released like don't worry people you

1023
01:28:36,200 --> 01:28:42,160
will get it I just might make you pace on patreon for it I should just start a

1024
01:28:42,160 --> 01:28:46,640
patreon just I mean there's no reason not to I got to give them content to

1025
01:28:46,640 --> 01:28:53,520
pay for but yeah I don't know they will do patreon for the card game there you

1026
01:28:53,520 --> 01:28:59,100
go yeah get a little Kickstarter campaign going get money to pay an

1027
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artist yeah I don't know fuck it but this has been a great episode man I

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appreciate you I appreciate you having me out here yeah now it's time for a

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smoke break yeah I agree but hard hard agree all right have a good night peeps

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peace