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everybody to another episode I got my buddy Cory what up dude's awesome I love
this guy oh that's sweet but no Fergie today so he's he's out of town right now
that's fine I'll I'll try to make a somewhat decent enough replacement for
the temporary time being yeah all literal and stuff yeah why are you using
all these big words bro that's how I am but yeah so you're a Subaru guy like me
yes sir we're fucking nerds massively huge nerds that's kind of what the whole
show is about anyway I presumed as much you know tenacious geek it just kind of
makes sense right tell me that's not like the best fucking name ever I mean I
thought it was just a tribute but yeah we're not the best podcast in the world I
was telling a couple of my buddies at work I was like yeah I'm gonna go out to
Vancouver I'm gonna you know be on a podcast and they're like oh so what is
it I was like I am some nerdy podcast tenacious geek I was like that's what we
just geek shit yeah when I told my son I told my son I was like uh he's he asked
me what's the podcast and I'm like oh it's just nerdy shit he's like is that
what it's called no good name too though just dirty shit right it would have been
funny yeah I mean with video games movies comics a lot of anime yeah enemies we do
watch a lot of anime I don't I don't get too deep into anime it depends on what
it is like I've been eagerly awaiting the finalized end of attack on Titan have
you watched attack on Titan watched like maybe five episodes when it first started
and it just it gets it insanely good I mean I'll watch it eventually but it's
it's like I don't know it's supposed to be ending this year so like this summer
fall winter time is supposed to be like the final ending of the series and
finally yeah finally oh man well the weird thing about it is each season is
like 30 episodes it seems like so it's really really long seasons and it's just
what what I liked about it so much is the action in it is really good I mean
I've seen some like reels and shit yeah okay cool you get deeper in the anime
there's so many things for you to think about like oh what if this is gonna
happen what if this is gonna happen and there's so many twists and turns within
it where it makes you actually think and so that was like a big big turn on for
me because I'm watching it I just and I'm theorizing I just don't get the
whole big Titan things like I should probably watch it you gotta watch it I
can't I can't go deep in the spoilers this is coming from the same guy that I
refused to watch my hero academia for so long because it just I started it and I
was like this is so fucking slow mm-hmm it's kind of boring and I'm huge I'm
huge in the superpowers like the superhero thing I watched the fuck out
of heroes I don't remember that show yeah with the cheerleader chick yeah
save the cheerleader save the world yeah big into that invincible the boys I love
the boys yeah me too have you seen invincible I know I haven't yet I've
heard a lot of things about it but I just haven't watched it it's so good the
it's created by the same dude that did Walking Dead oh yeah yeah it's it's so
good I'll have to check it out I mean I have prime so there's no reason for me
not right everybody's got pride everybody right but yeah I didn't watch
my hero for so long and now I'm obsessed yeah it's really good I mean I got baku
go hang in for my for my front me and I got a car so I got a deck who had there
I think you saw my deck who sure yeah yeah and then uh me and my co-host we're
going to get matching tattoos down our arms I got baku go coming in on this
side he's getting deck who on the other side that's awesome because that's we've
known each other for 20 years yeah so yeah yeah that's super cool man fucking
upset with it I got my son introduced and he knows decku all over the place
yeah I mean it's it's a really good show it is slow it is slow but like once you
get past that initial it fucking yeah rock it yeah and attack on Titan is kind
of the same it's a little bit slow in the beginning and then like season 3 is
more of thinking but then they go like yeah I gotta keep it actiony it's almost
like comparing the old Marvel like you remember old like Lou Frigno painted
green as the Hulk yeah so that's kind of like the first couple seasons if you
compare it to the third and fourth season because there's way more Titans
there's way more crazy shit that's going on so what you're saying is skip the
first two seasons and I mean if you have to but there's a lot of character
building and there's a lot of a lot of depth that goes into those first two
seasons and then it just gets ridiculously good like insanely good see
that's how my hero was to me at least and then I got turned on a demon slayer
oh that's another really good one you want you you caught yeah I haven't
watched swordsmith yet I don't know sports what swordsmith sword Smith
village the new like season the new season I haven't watched that I think I
watch not all the way dubbed yet I watched the Mugen train yeah the little
train series thing a little arc arc that's what it's called it's like season
1.5 or something like that I watched that one and then I watched the one right
after the next one where they're like in the city and they're like it's about
like prostitutes yeah yeah yeah I watched that this is the one right after that I
really like that they make the big bad guy essentially Michael Jackson right
vampire Michael Jackson I saw that and I was like what the hell that's actually
kind of amazing completely random but did you ever watch Jojo's bizarre
adventure no I have no oh my god so like in the first season you it's about
vampires too mm-hmm essentially and it's like the big bad boss man from Demon
Slayer kind of reminds me of the big bad boss man from Jojo oh that's one's a
vampire one's a demon but the way you put it like it's almost identical that's
fucking and it's like I just want to kill you because I hate you yeah type of
shit and it's yeah those are just a really good show I've seen a whole bunch
of weird it's about Jojo it's super weird yeah that's what kind of turned me
off from it because normally when something so I'm a hipster I've I've
lived in Portland for most of my adult life most of my childhood life was in
Portland back in like 2005 people were calling me a hipster and I didn't know
what the hell that man like what the fuck and they're like you like things
that are not cool and when they become cool then you stop liking them I'm like
yeah I just like what I like essentially yeah like or that's what it used to be
now it's like that must make me a hipster then yeah and cuz I do the same
thing mine is like when it starts getting popular I don't want anything to
do with it exactly and then I'll like check it out like Walking Dead wait till
the hype dies down yeah like the hype dies down I'm like okay I'll check it
out it's like fucking yeah Walking Dead I didn't watch Walking Dead for like ever
that was like up until like just within the last like two years they had a story
like five seasons yeah I think I got to like right at the end of the Negan yeah
that's that's about yeah they did a time skit I'm good seeing yeah did the same
thing with um Stranger Things I didn't touch Stranger Things until the last
season was done then I binged it all I don't know if I've seen the newest one
it I haven't the one we're like see I should have just watched it as it's
coming out it's really good it is um but like Supernatural I love
Supernatural for the first six seven seasons I watched it with the hype and
then I was like no that's too much gone back to finish it later yeah you know
but that's I'm the same way yeah I mean it's just I don't know the hype for me
personally at least the hype's a big turnoff yeah because it's like if
everyone likes it then why do I want to be like everyone else that's why I hate
fortnight so much yeah like I hate that game so bad I'll see my like it's funny
too cuz like my wife my son my wife's best friend and my best friend they all
play for tonight they will all sit in the living room at my place and play
fortnight together and I'm just sitting there like so this is boring yeah like
well you can get on and play with us I'm good I'll pass like I've heard they did
the no building shit yeah which was good I mean I know I could maybe fuck with
that a little bit yeah that game seems like a money grab to me it is um I just
I let my son do the $11 a month pass so he gets the season pass every month and
he gets like special unique bonus skins and a lot of chores to earn that I mean
kind of not too much his chores he's really consistent with them so that's
good then yeah I mean he's got his stuff that he's got to do and I mean it's 11
bucks a month what's what's 11 bucks a month in the grand scheme of things if
he if he actually plays the game it's a good point and if he plays it and enjoys
it I mean yeah we play pay for Xbox live and worse stuff exactly I get it
exactly and I would say a quote-unquote chore is he has to make use of the
battle pass every month where he loses it so he's got he better complete that
exactly so every month he completes it and he gets you know probably about 15
20 skins and a whole bunch of different stuff like throughout the month when
he's playing so like I'm like yeah cool keep doing it like as long as you're as
long as you're actively using it see that used to be me and destiny I played
destiny to so hard everybody that's listening to this podcast should know
that like I played it so hard for so many years up until this last expansion
just bought it played it for like a couple weeks is it just not good just
not feeling it anymore yeah it's just yeah yeah they they're fucking up PvP a
lot that's what I heard and the raids and everything it's like they they're
making them harder which is a good thing in its own way but it's like the way you
find your teams and like people to play with because you got to have people to
do these raids and dungeons and shit they kind of like wow mm-hmm it's just the
community just sucks like literally the destiny 2 community was awesome forever
and all the way up and even when uh the actor dude died the Lance Riddick or
whatever his name was because he was a death was player yeah that was just
recent yeah it was like beginning of the year mm-hmm it was like March but he he
played destiny he was a voice in destiny then the community came together and
it's still just like when it comes to raids and shit it's like oh you better
know what you're doing I want you to have like five clears before we invite
you and it's like what the fuck it's it's one of those endless cycles where I
can't get a team because I don't know the raid but I don't know the raid
because I can't get a team exactly exactly and I know that because a while
yeah I've been through that too and it's always painful it's frustrating then
eventually you get that one that one squad that's like yeah come on mm-hmm
yeah and then now and then you learn it yeah and then you go on and you do like
heroics and mythics and shit yeah yeah but it's just was me it takes that it
takes out one squad or that one group of people that one guild that I've done it
so many times they're like yeah well we could take on a scrub yeah you know like
I mean you can go online and watch videos and tactics and shit I don't do
that no I don't watch tactics online I learn it by doing it it's not as fun
it's really not like that I remember when Elden Ring came out I still never
played Elden Ring it's it's good if you like the hype I think the hype got me
for Elden Ring if you're a masochist then you'll probably like it just kill
everybody you know yourself oh yeah so because it's a Dark Souls you know it's
an open world Dark Souls and I'm terrible at Dark Souls games yeah me too
but I still have fun with them cuz you cuz you die and you restart right and
not only but like I don't think Elden Ring does that right it's not that you
restart but so like in Dark Souls the currency the experience are both souls
if you die there's a little all the souls that you've collected are there if
you die while you're trying to make it back to your body those souls are gone
you lose everything you lose everything all your souls now you don't lose your
gear you can go but you could go back and get your souls only if you don't die
on your way back and it's kind of like wow got a little bit you don't lose
experience or gold or anything when you die in wow which dude oh a hardcore a
hardcore World of Warcraft server would be tight I from what I understand
they're looking at making one and like Diablo does yeah that would be fucking
tight cuz like I plastic would be the best one to do it too so since you
brought up wow I play on a private server for World of
Warcraft yeah what's and server so it's called turtle Wow Oh a turtle Wow okay
and molten Wow what's what molten Wow was I don't even think it's a thing
anymore but molten was a Lich King I have a server way back when I think this
was during like Mesa Pandaria I didn't yeah so like Mesa Pandaria was live and
they went and did Lich King because you know Kata kind of screwed everything oh
yeah absolutely because Lich King was the best yeah and so I played on molten
for because I ran through Panda like it was nothing it was easy and I just
didn't really fight the game I didn't really care for the raids or farming or
anything so I wouldn't play molten for like ever until until warlords came out
I went back to live on warlords and then molten and then molten disappeared so
what are that you people that liked warlords of Draenor I loved warlords
like I had a good guild we had on me too like the rays actually inner grades were
challenging mm-hmm the not being able to fly right off the bat was nice too yeah
it was a big change of pace yeah what the game is I'm a I'm a Paladin tank
oh that's what I do I loved every second of it mm-hmm
taking was so nice oh yeah I was a death of night tank oh you're a death night I'm
Paladin I was Paladin until they released death night and then I was like now
here's the question live hoarder alliance you fucking get always
hoard get out always hoard no matter what the fuck out I'm for the Alliance
dog no man all day are low tar I couldn't know victory or death no the
Alliance man um let's see we get along outside the game exactly exactly in the
game no I'll kill you yeah good luck why I touched it since Legion drop so it's
it's different now a lot of stuff is normalized in the current game maybe
normalizes the wrong word for it so I'll use PvP as an example in current
Wow all right so dragon flight right because dragon flights the new one yeah
yeah so let's say Shadowlands Shadowlands came out and it was out for a while and
then dragon flight just came out at the tail end of last year right okay so
what's the newest one that's right cuz you get so dragon mountain yeah the
weird the dragon flying is kind of cool I guess it's a cool dragon mounts and
fucking but it's different in the way that it is so like you don't just fly
there's no hovering like you have to gain momentum or you're falling oh so
it's like actual like yeah which is kind of cool but I like hover a couple
expansions ago they ruined PvP and wow and which was probably Legion I heard
battle for Azeroth was pretty good though PvP wise so well I don't know I
like I said I'm Legion so that's the case that's four expansions I have to
play when it comes to PvP for me I like being able to get my character so geared
that when a fresh Alliance noob walks into the arena with me or walks into a
battleground with me I smack him twice and he dies because they just balanced
it pretty much yeah they made everything a percentage base so let's say you as a
fresh max level character still in your greens and blues from leveling and me
in my full PvP gear we full set everything exactly okay we fight I'm
getting decimated it says on my screen that I'm doing 10,000 damage but you
only have 12,000 hit points and it's moving like 5%
meaning that even though they're saying it does a person like a certain number
of damage a certain health point of damage it's actually only doing a
percentage because you're under geared it's going to do less damage to you and
when that happened I was like I'm done I'm done with this yeah fuck that there's
no reason for that I'm here to one-shot yeah like I had to take my lumps yeah I
had to go in there and get all day long earn that shit in arena all day
exactly you know that's when you know being a mage yeah cuz I played a mage too
a frost mage a major last cannon you know you come run up on me I'm getting
smacked yeah they my paladin if I can't get to you I'm dead mm-hmm that's
bullshit so that's fucked it's PvP is not as fun but turtle Wow turtle Wow so
turtle Wow and hardcore we're not condoning this either by the way no
definitely totally there was a fun as fuck and they're always free they are
the best part that's the big thing so they have enforced hardcore mode now
you're not forced to play hardcore mode but you make a new character you go to
the glyph person and you turn on hardcore mode if your character dies you
can't log into that character anymore that character is dead the only thing
you can do with it is delete it from from the character selection screen oh
shit so kind of that's your only option yeah hi and so that's and it's classic
and so it's to level 60 yeah level 60 old world content no flying no fucking
and hair heir heir loom no that and they've added that was one of the things
I love doing get heirlooms I'm twinking twinking was level 20
twinking battlegrounds and all that yeah I love it was it was it was until it was
nothing but twinks yeah yeah I mean you could have level a level 19 twink going
out killing level 40s yeah and it was it was amazing to see I think I kept mine
at like 20 so it went up that bracket in battlegrounds yeah so you could do 20 to
29 yeah which made it even more fun yeah cuz you've got I mean you've got level
29 people that thinking they're you know think they're twinks but it's not yeah
it's not the same right you know and then you know just turn experience off
yeah and just have fun with it yeah yeah Wow's Wow's definitely taking a lot of
time dude the whole life the old private servers that I told you molten I used to
multi box dude I was one of those guys multi box of shaman wrath was the time to
multi box shamans wrath was awesome for shaman yeah I remember multi boxing
shamans and like soloing ten man lich king mm-hmm with nothing but shaman yeah
ten well there's so hard this shit was well I mean they're so try to get them
to run back together and go where I want them to go oh my god ten on one screen I
like not like three monitors because this was back when you know pandaria was
out mm-hmm it's fucking it really is so yeah so ten fucking full screens so for
the people that don't know the term multi boxing means I'm running individual
accounts but like multiple monitors on one screen on one monitor yeah so I'm
hot keying my keyboard I'm running like ten characters all at the exact same
time but pressing one button at a time like I'm playing one character it's it's
crazy to see especially when you come across them in PvP oh I see that all the
time because you you walk in and you're like oh it's just a shot oh oh it's it's
a group of shaman and I'm dead yeah a group of shaman that are running like
they're one person uh-huh so they overlap and it looks yeah oh it's so
stupid you can't tell like I would tap target I would literally spam the tab
just to make sure there wasn't multiples there yeah it's yeah and then they'd
name them everybody would name their multi box with like one letter off or
something like that so they were like yeah yeah yeah it's it was it was the
glory days the glory days of show was so fun yeah old-school rating like we don't
have guilds like that anymore no I mean you can you can raid in raid
finder now which is rating on easy mode fucking hate raid finder and it's just I
hated it yeah I don't I don't even know the last time I've ran raids I don't
care about the lore I don't care about any of that snow but I miss just regular
and heroic mm-hmm 10 and 25 man yeah we don't need 12 we don't need 40 well the
40 mans were fucking amazing they were but 10 and 25 wrath lich king I think
even cataclysm did 10 and 25 mm-hmm right yeah cuz mythic didn't come out
until the panda no I think it was I think was warlords I've never ran a
mythic I tried but it's like so by the time warlords came out we had LFR level
you know raid finders like fresh yeah and then normal and then heroic and then
mythic that's just too much they're like so how many yeah how many times do I have
to run this fucking I think that's why we didn't get much content compared to
the old ones and it's it seems like they're catering the game like at least
now they're catering to the game to two separate factions they're really
hardcore Raiders that run like the 1% of the 1% that run like high mythics yeah
and then the LFR just smashing their forehead against the keyboard yeah and
like I'm I'm a hardcore casual so like hardcore casual yeah like I play pretty
casually I was I was when I play I was hardcore period I was casual about it
I'm talking I wasn't then bro I'm talking I'm spending like I'd get off of work in
eight hour day and I'm spending ten hours mm-hmm after that playing Wow
sleeping for maybe four hours go back to work well yeah and that was my only
20s late teens we were able to get away with it yeah in high school like I in
high school was when like Lich King burning crusade all that that's fucking
all I did oh man you're way younger than me then yeah yeah how old are you I'm
35 I'm only 31 well I mean that's a big difference in wow though I mean yeah
cuz I got I got introduced yeah it came out what 2004 2004 and I think I started
playing in 2005 early 2006 yes I think I was playing I didn't start until like
right at the butt end of classic okay and burning crusade so burning crusade
was my first full experience so we started it pretty much the same time
yeah and like yeah cuz it was right at the end of classic beginning of burning
crusade when I started playing yeah I started to I was like I think I was in
like eighth grade seventh eighth grade I was well I think I was yeah so for me
things were kind of weird cuz I didn't I went to high school for a couple years
then I dropped out and then I went and joined the army then I got kicked out
for medical reasons and I got asthma so so do I so like this is never bothered
yeah I joined and then I got there and they sent me to Georgia in the middle of
spring and my lungs were like yeah no we're not doing this so not in that
swamp heat either oh dude it was so bad so I got that when it's 60 it's just
like it's you're breathing water yeah you know you're just breathing hot
steamy water it's terrible it's not fun not fun at all but I got back from that
and just started partying a lot and then once my rent once my money ran out my
buddy was like I got to show you this game and I was hooked that's it like
that's all it took I was I was in and I I couldn't stop I haven't been able to
fully give it up since then it's like so mine my introduction was my like
best friend in middle school his mom and her wife played like religiously all
through classic and everything and it was like I'd go in and see I'm like okay
you know I'm coming from Nintendo yes to like I I played pretty hardcore the
halo I was fucking first halo all day long oh yeah like that was my shit so I
was like okay world of work this is time so when does it when do I get to play
this on console no there's not all right well I guess I gotta start figuring out
how to do this and then come to find out about the subscription shit I was like
well I don't have a job yeah I'm in school I'm like how how is this gonna
work go play the free trial fuck I was hooked I was hooked I would
continuously repeat the trial as much as I could and it was eventually I started
getting paid and shit I'd like go make people pay for it for me right I mean a
little bit of do what you got you got to do what you got to do you know I don't
want to say it but you know what I'm saying it's so it was like I had to get
the money for it you know after that it was just like that's all I wanted to do
yeah it's until it and then they did the buyer subscription with gold the in-game
as soon as that went live it became a job yeah it was like I got I got a grant
a certain amount a day to make the money to pay for the month of the
subscription it was like it's a cycle yeah I mean you can definitely do that
like yeah I remember farming herbs and or fucking yeah oh my god or is the
worst cuz like farming herbs is easy I had to make a druid you make a druid and
you just fly around and you just fly around and you pick the damn flowers and
you keep flying dude I was the next one badass that that was my shit was resto
druid back in Lich King never in a healer never never I used to I used to
prefer healer because it's so I always played a mage was my first one it's
always my first one that's my enchanter that's my portals yeah and then
realized that doing DPS all the time was just like blah boring I need some more
yeah went to resto druid fucking loved it I could solo a ten-man heroic after
well after you know a few runs knowing what to do getting the gear knowing
knowing when the big kids I literally could solo heal all through ten-man
heroic with my guild and it was fucking amazing and then Kata came out and
fucking destroyed it yeah cuz we didn't have tree anymore no and it was like
they just they ruined it that was one of the like and that's when I switched to
Paladin and I started Paladin and I just went straight to tank I still
Legion ruin that so I have a buddy still every expansion he's asking me did they
give me my tree back yet no cuz he hasn't played it they made it
supposedly they made a glyph they made a glyph I think in cataclysm or Panda
where you you can get the tree you just don't have to be in it but it's not the
same tree it's not the same it's that weird like fucking blocky one with the
legs have you seen it I don't think so it's like the the Trent almost hold on
let's see if I can get a picture of it but it's not it's not the tree it's not
like the old tree like no I loved being I was always in tree well yeah it was a
worm was legit tree and boomkin you got such good buffs from it dude boomkin was
my shit too that was my side spec like even you actually had to be a moonkin
yeah and just just stand there and cast yeah like even with uh like what is it
um completely lost my train of thought yeah I'm trying to see if I can get a
picture of it yeah they turned it into like this yeah this is it that's what it
turned into oh that kind of came out or in pandaria that was the tree that was
so good that's I'm like out huh you can get that as a mount yeah and it's so
stupid and it's like this is what I wanted this yep yeah yeah that's that's
the actual yeah so that's what I was gonna say disc priest like disc priest
is the closest that I've gotten to as a healer see I tried I have I have a max
level disc priest but I just I can't play it right it's not my style it's
really fun for a PvP you're essentially unkillable just yeah bubble everything
and heal flash heal real quick yeah and like which resto druids are fucking you
do boomkin just right you can heal in boomkin well you you get out of the form
go back into the form before like cataclysm and all that and so you could
like pop a hot real quick you know heal over time pop back in a boomkin and just
annihilate yeah and you're healing for you know fucking 20 seconds 20 30
seconds depending on the hot yeah and good takes if you're expect for it so
even in resto you know it runs almost you mean you run your intellect but then
you run I think it was wisdom to spirit spirit that's what it was for the mana
region but you can literally swap just a couple pieces of gear out and then you
have your firepower mm-hmm was fucking amazing and then they just killed it all
the game is so much different now they like incentivize like this and this is
what I mean by they're really catering the game towards like the top of the
top is there incentivizing every single healer now to also output damage so
healing is so simplistic I think this because it was so simple yeah boring
it's gotten dumbed down to the point where like as a disc priest the way that
my heels work I throw a bubble on you right throw a shield on you and then you
get a buff for a certain amount of time and that buff is not just the shield but
it's to where whenever I'm dealing damage you're getting healed for a
percent okay and that's how I mean that makes how does heels that makes sense
and how disk is yes might would kind of heal a little bit back then and so like
they last time I played it was really into it so I haven't played anything
beyond that it's you don't need to it's kind of that's kind of how like a prop
pallie was mm-hmm like I could throw a little bit of heels out every so often
while I'm taking damage mm-hmm that I didn't have to worry about I could
throw you know a good few thousand heel here and there yeah we're essentially
free yeah and then throw my own mitigation out like now you're not
taking damage yeah but I still got aggro you know exactly I remember before I got
too deep with the death knight and the nights were so they were but I refused
to play them until they kind of got dumbed down so like the beginning of
wrath I was prop halodon I was a death knight in wrath to I had one because the
dude the blood tank was just too good yeah it was and then it was too broken to
not play it was great and then shadow matter it didn't matter what spec you
went yeah you could tank like that's why I said blood blood tank well frost tank
was the best but blood tank was just nobody I didn't need healers yeah it
got to the point where anything beyond I think it was just anything normal and
like certain heroic dungeons and raids like I literally could just run all DPS
yeah well and I'm still out DPS saying that's I remember seeing people that
would put together raid groups of just death knights yeah cuz like cuz you
don't need healers with blood you've got so much region like so much mitigation
and region with frost you've got so much AOE and then you know you just have this
this cycle of different tanks that are switching aggro yeah well we get it think
about it you get ten of them or even or even 25 run a 25 man heroic each you
know different spec mm-hmm just imagine the damage output the
healing that's gonna get done and then when somebody's about to die just swap
yep real quick and that's that's what people were doing it was crazy it was
some of the craziest stuff like it was great I miss it was great I miss when
Blizzard let people have fun with their game they kind of did the same thing
with monk when monk came out too they were insane like they were the best
tanks the best healers they did pretty good damage but they did yeah you had to
work for I had a level 100 monk too plus they leveled super fast yeah they had
that experience buff the Zen pilgrimage or whatever yeah so that they level it
like twice the rate or so yeah yeah yeah monk was OP
blizzard is not and yet we never once got a necromancer no never ever I think
that it's shitty like it is like we pretty much got all the classes from
Diablo yeah but we never got a necromancer yeah unless that's what they
count the warlock I really hope not if they count the warlock as a necromancer
then maybe it's a combination of warlock and death night maybe maybe death night
I think would be closer but it's just like to have a real necromancer would be
the Diablo 2 or Diablo 4 style necromancer you can at least resurrect
like five or six bodies yeah have a bunch of skeletons or golems like mm-hmm
that would be amazing or even like kill a big boss revive it real quick so they
brought back the druid so you have low for okay they did yeah they brought the
druid back cuz that's the druid wasn't in three now I played necromancer anyway
necromancer and a wizard I played witch doctor a lot in three when I did play I
didn't play very much and do I like the I like the ability to have a bunch of
like followers a bunch of companions and then I would just think that's why I
chicken I think that's why I like necromancer yeah as I just keep
rezzing as I kill them and then just aoe damage everybody well I had like the
speed chicken build going oh so I was just like a little chicken and I would
run around and I would like explode and kill everything and that was fun sort of
that's a little easy it is and Diablo 3 was really bland and boring in my
opinion like I'm a I'm a Diablo 2 and a path of exile player yeah I played the
shit out where exile yeah I mean to the point where I loved the original so much
I still have yet to play that god-awful remaster I just for Diablo 2 oh okay
yeah um they it's not it's not path of exile but no they yeah they did some
things wrong with just remaster yeah like did not it did not sit right with me I
was like why would we go back and remaster two because how good it was I
mean two was the best yeah but one needs the remaster one is the one that needs
to love two is pretty you could throw two up just throw it up you don't even
have just poured it out and throw it up on fucking Xbox they could yeah and it
stands alone even with the terrible graphics and I think Diablo you don't
really need good graphics no you don't I think the reason that they did two
instead of one is because two still to this day the servers are live yeah the
servers are are populated somewhat but not just that you can play two offline
anyway yes on PC and you can also play resurrected offline which is cool I
guess I don't know like I played D2 resurrected a fair amount but it's not
it's not it's not D2 LOD like it's not the same it doesn't have the same it's
like grasp on me and Diablo 3 didn't really get that either no it really
didn't like to be honest I waited until what was it the the evil edition or
whatever like the big deluxe yeah with all the expansions and everything yeah I
waited till that was on sale for like 15 bucks before I even bought it and played
it oh so you missed all the hype which is getting back to the hipster thing I
just I couldn't do the hype and I know how Blizzard games are yeah like
overwatch did the same thing with overwatch I played the beta was all cool
about it and then as soon as it dropped I was like fuck this game right and then
they made it free they made the first overwatch free it just turned it into
overwatch too mm-hmm I played it for a few months after that I haven't played
it since no I know how Blizzard servers are too yes they're very hit and miss
and I refuse that's the whole Diablo 4 I got a buddy that it took him days oh it
didn't take me that long I'm on my ps5 though oh I think he was on I think he
was on series s or something but it said it took him like two and a half days
that's sitting in a queue and I was like you it's kind of what yeah yeah that's
it's a Blizzard launch you never never play a Blizzard game and expect to play
the first day yeah like just don't the first week yeah I always say I always
tell people give it a week but if you don't have the mass rush they don't fix
it fast exactly so I mean it's hit or miss exactly it's a double-edged sword
yeah I don't know when d4 came out let everybody else fucking like so Diablo 4
I played in the closed beta because I pre-ordered the game because I am like
I still to this day I have Diablo 2 downloaded on my computer like real
Diablo 2 I have like three different Diablo 2 private servers it's it's so
addicting I had it in a offline mode though yeah so I didn't have to like try
to log in I literally just open it and start right back where I was oh nice
it was like a cracked version or something I don't know well I mean it
was just so I could just play by myself and it's it's fun to play that way but
lay it offline on like a guy trip or some private servers like I still play
like real old Diablo 2 old graphics and everything it's that good see it holds
up we don't need a remaster I mean I've been playing it for 20 years and I still
and here's the other thing is why do we keep going to console
why would we make the other four I can understand they made this one
specifically for console mm-hmm like Diablo 3 was PC first console was the
side hustle this one was made specifically for console yeah why I
don't know um why it plays fine I don't play it on my PC I played on my PS 5 my
PC couldn't handle it I know for a fact my PC couldn't handle it I need a new
graphics card so I played on the PS 5 well mine this one we're recording on
couldn't even handle three Wow that's it can handle I can play three barely I can
play three but I just knew like and then seeing the older than our kids bro no
that's pretty bad I can't just get rid of it it's it's difficult it's too
beautiful yeah but is it good is double for worth it from what I've seen so far
I would say yes now me personally Diablo 3 had a fine enough campaign leveling up
experience the shit out of it but the paragon system was incredibly bland and
doing so boring yeah so I hit max level now I gotta hit another max level
mm-hmm and all you're getting is plus one to intellect yeah plus one to
stamina like it's it's very plain yeah bland but I mean they did make it like
her the heroics what the fuck did they call I can't the greater riffs yeah
where they went up a level to like all the way down that I mean that was pretty
cool it made it but you're just replaying the same literally the exact
same shit just a little higher and I'm so they're a little bit tougher so you
beat it once you can beat it a thousand times exactly you know and it's I don't
know replay factor was so low yes cuz like Diablo 2 there were a lot of
hardcore like very very difficult to find chase items yeah and I remember that
you needed numerous of them likes you're building a lightning source cool great
you need seven burrs for your build burr is like in the 20 years that I've played
I found three of them mm-hmm you know it's not an it's not an easy rune to
find no with Diablo 4 I'm already at the point I'm a hundred hours in but I'm at
the point already where I hit I only need like one or two more items and my
builds complete and that is too much that's too much for me yeah and so like
the campaign's really good leveling up feels really good the game is better
than what I thought it was going to be because I played like I said I played in
the cult closed beta I played for about four hours got bored initiated a refund
and I refunded the game because I was just I I looked at the game and we didn't
have access to the paragon system which the paragon system is so much better
I've heard so much better I've heard like it's actually pretty decent it's not
path of exile statuary decent but it's okay enough it's getting there you know
it's got some depth to it it has some different customization to it where it's
it what you do in the way that you build your character actually matters but I
can already tell Diablo 4 will never meet the expectations of a Diablo 2
player that's wanting something to grab them and hold them like Diablo 2 did
yeah cuz I mean that the replay factor again exactly yeah you could play D 2
fucking 20 years later mm-hmm right and there's still things that I have for is
gonna be one of those it's gonna be like three or it's one and done I maybe maybe
some DLC but it's well it's gonna have multiple expansions I have a feeling
it's gonna be like fuck what was that game it's like they would go play the
game beat it real quick go play something else Call of Duty might be one
of them or something but like they'll play it they'll go play something else
all DLC comes back everybody rushes to this you know finishes it goes back to
some else more than likely um I hate that I like games that I can keep playing
yeah you know what I mean like the that's where destiny came in mm-hmm you
know it's so massive I haven't even scratched maybe 30% of that game and I've
been playing since young forever like we're on our fifth expansion so it's
like six years playing this game damn I didn't remember it was that old I yeah
we got my PS4 one year one was destiny to mm-hmm so yeah your one was
destiny too we had what forsaken fuck something beyond light which queen and
then light fall yeah so like five expansion damn six expansion that's uh
that's a lot so a lot of times six seven years well it's like one every I think
it's one every year is what it's been it's always in like February mm-hmm
it's always a big massive expansion something new drops with it yada yada
last one sucked that's shitty I hated it I haven't picked it back up damn I
literally have not touched it I played it for like a few weeks pretty much beat
the like main missions of the expansion mm-hmm I was like fuck this yeah they
just they ruined PvP and that's yeah I mean like the the iron banner you've
played destiny right yeah I never got into PvP though I that's well I'm coming
from Call of Duty I'm a huge apex apex like I've like lost my tenacity to play
PvP really yeah I used to be a very aggressive loud like like tenacious for
a better you're his person big tenacious and yeah exactly and I just don't have
that same tenacity anymore no you just want to just yeah I just want to sit
back and like and see so the campaign place played apex legends fucking
religiously I still play it every so often a bit I was big in a Titanfall
like the first person shooters I was big on Halo I haven't played Call of Duty in
years though neither have I I played the lot of Cold War was the last one I
touched Cold War was actually that was it was pretty good I can't lie it was
pretty good I'm a huge black ops person was that trying to remember was Cold War
the one where it was they had a couple scenes in like Russia I think so because
I think I may have played that one they used I don't know this this this voice
actress chick that I really like but I think they used her as the face for one
of the one of the characters if I'm not mistaken I can't remember the fucking
campaign very much right now yeah it's but I the multiplayer the
gameplay for it was it was really good it was smooth it was like you know your
hit markers were actually on point no that's I play a lot of hardcore that's
that's why I can't play CS go you know okay you know a game is good though have
you played X Defiant no I have a lot about it so I me and my co-host you you
know Ferg right you've listened to the show listen to the yeah so he got me
turned into it and so like like two days later I got a code right and it is
they're calling it the cod killer what do you think you think that's true it is
absolutely true yeah I'm gonna have to check it out then so there is an open
beta coming okay next weekend the 21st so it's like on a Wednesday oh that's
so from like Wednesday to I think it's like Wednesday morning to Saturday
morning oh that's great full open beta schedule perfect but you're only gonna
get you know same thing we got in the closed beta which I mean it was laggy
like it glitched in and out it took a little bit to get into a match but it
was fucking dope is it I play I couldn't put it down were you able to play beta
on your console I put it on the Xbox interesting and he so Ferg plays on PC
I put it on the series X mm-hmm and then I try to get my buddy on his PS5 just
so I can compare but he somehow was lazy and didn't get in even I got him codes
because you could do a refer a friend mm-hmm or you just go on Twitch and you
watch somebody playing it and then he sends you one no and you get a drop
they sent twitch send you a drop for it that's how I had to get it you gotta
watch I think it was 30 minutes or an hour I was gonna say it's usually pretty
small consecutive yeah and then you had a chance to get a beta code drop and I
got yeah I got lucky to get one early yeah I and I was addicted to the one
reason it's still pre-installed on my Xbox in there still installed it's like
50 something gigabytes the only reason I've even heard of it is all the
controversy going on right now with Call of Duty like it's these these game
companies man these companies in general so it's made by Ubisoft but it's X but
they're caught there are right yes from like the original black ops and modern
warfare back when cod was really good back when it had that feeling and kept
you in the game like yeah back in black ops 1 2 modern warfare 2 & 3
like that's all I played yeah no there were I literally went and bought new
consoles to play Call of Duty yeah I had what everybody does now yeah these new
Call of Duty's are fucking just trash they are and they're there they're
getting granted Ferg would disagree way too much of a focus on like the battle
pass yeah this whole battle passion and I blame fortnight for that live service
I blame PUBG and fortnight for that yeah that's for this whole battle pass
service which is cool even Diablo 4 has a fucking battle pass like that was when
I saw that I almost I was just like are you fucking serious right now has battle
passes yeah apex legends fucking the only game that I think I've played so
recently that didn't have a battle pass was Hogwarts oh that game was so good I
saw him beat it all the way I have it like I'm at like 75 80% yeah and I won't
I haven't finished it yet I think that's how almost everyone got I'm just leaving
it like I don't want to kill it yet I just well Guardians have did you play
the Guardians of the Galaxy game no my son played it for a couple hours I
watched him play I pre-ordered it because I was so excited it looks so
good you know on the new console and all that I beat it in like a week like
hundred percent there's like there's nothing I can go back and replay other
than just nostalgia this yeah so I paid the good chunk of money beat it in a
week and I did not want to do that to Hogwarts I I can understand that my son
did that was spider-man he wanted a Spider-Man game so bad which one um the
PlayStation one when they came in on PlayStation well there was that one and
then the Miles Morales not miles Morales okay it was the first one so the first
one okay so I specifically I have a ps4 like not a pro nothing just regular ps4
I got it from it's funny story my sister's ex-boyfriend for free because
he he was done with it he's an Xbox player he just had it he's like you want
to play spider-man I know do you want it like yeah only for spider-man I guess you
know so he hooked it up I bought spider-man the DLC I was like okay it's
the only reason I'll touch a PlayStation I still haven't played God of War
neither the none of the God of War's I'm not a PlayStation guy anymore
the God of War games are good man I have the first one not all the first of the
new one yeah yeah no I don't have Ragnarok I don't either which my brother
is like here you borrow it I have it I didn't get to play the Final Fantasy
remake either which I heard was really good it was good I can go borrow it at
any time too yeah but I played the shit out of the first spider-man I'm at like
99% on my trophies I need one more trophy and all of my platinum and it is
so good that I won't touch Miles Morales and now I gotta go find a PS5 and play
spider-man 2 yeah cuz the remaster so Miles Morales was just a reskin to me
yeah I was I mean I don't like I don't like the the multiverse thing like the
whole concept of the multiverse is something that I don't like don't like
or don't like what do you mean I don't like the idea in comic books where
they're like it's spider-man but it's Miles Morales it's from a different
universe well Miles Morales is in the regular universe they both coexist at
the same time I thought it was a multiverse thing no so the whole end of
the spider-verse thing mm-hmm was different but Miles was always in the
original comic line the original earth 616 this is where you're getting into my
realm here yeah so yeah the original miles was with spider-man he was trained
by spider-man our original Peter Parker and then there was the multi for the
spider-verse where it's actually if you dive into the whole spider-verse story
not like the movies I mean the movies did pretty good I haven't seen the new
one yet but the spider-verse as a whole itself is a really cool concept it's
almost like flash you know flash I do know flash I so how like the speed force
like connected all the flashes together kind of they're all it's kind of like
that okay where the web of destiny like each strand goes to its own spider-verse
interest much okay it's I would I would do some research into it it's pretty
good I might I might have to but yeah my eyes I've kind of just fallen out of
that for the most part like well not just that but now we're really diving
into it with all the new movies coming out it's like it's all about multiverse
yeah and I just everything's multiverse I which I mean I'm excited I love
multiverse theory I am huge and I'd much rather multiverse theory than time
travel and that's but that's me I don't know like I don't really like any of
those no I would just like if it was me I would watch 27 27 films with Robert
Downey jr. as Tony Stark I would be okay with that like like give me Toby
McGuire a spider-man like really yeah you want Toby yeah I mean we got Toby but I
feel like Toby did it best he was goofy he was weird he was a nerd he was
unattractive but not too unattractive I didn't like him as I didn't I mean he
was a good spider-man yeah but he wasn't a good Peter Parker to me why well or
maybe it was no he was the he was a good Peter Parker not a good spider-man he
wasn't as you know quippy that's true he wasn't as witty he wasn't like even when
he's fighting and being serious he's fun mm-hmm I didn't I felt like he was too
serious okay I Andrew Garfield I felt did a good spider-man horrible Peter
Parker too exactly and then I think that Tom Holland is my favorite Tom Holland
has like good but I'm gonna be completely honest Tom Holland is way too
sexy to be Peter Parker that is very true like it is very true but I feel like he
has just mastered it yeah I mean it sucks because Civil War when they casted
Tom Holland I was like this is gonna fuck suck I don't know this kid yeah I
know nothing about him I was like this is gonna fuck it suck why not just grab
my Andrew Garfield I liked Andrew Garfield mm-hmm like the amazing
spider-man was meh but like I had this whole theory of like how the amazing
spider-man could have joined up for Civil War and they could have kept the two
movies and then continued a third one yeah and they just fucked it but I'm
not regretting I just I'm holding I fell in love with him homecoming far from
home those felt like spider-man to me yeah he's good as spider-man that he
was like in their 30s when he's too attractive to be Peter Parker yeah and
that's that was one of the things like I was so awkward he does it so well he is
but like with today's society like have you have you seen teenagers and like
kids in their young 20s they all act like that nowadays they're all super
awkward and weird you know partially autistic just kind of just jacked up on
your yeah and but like you got a point back in our day that was not no that
wasn't a thing no like socially awkward and all that that's where we were old
school geeks yeah yeah like getting you know picked on like that I did that yeah
it was just on I mean I got picked on here and there it well I mean I'm over
here I'm playing you Gio in the fucking cafeteria I was playing magic gathering
hey I can do magic you Gio was my poison yeah but I was a tournament player so
it was like lunchtime was like who want to run it yeah like I remember there
was a kid in my school there was a kid in my high school who would just Molly
want me in magic and then after I left school I started doing tournaments a lot
and so my skill level like it went from like zero to 100 real exactly real quick
and then I ran into him at a tournament and he wanted to play me for money and I
was like cool put it on the table so we each threw down 20 bucks and I just beat
the dog shit out of him and he was like how did this even happen I'm like dude I
told you I'm not like you're not the same way yeah see that was me like I
used to play everybody like we got a local card shop called the Batcave I
don't know if you've ever heard of it it's been around for since I was a kid
I've heard of it but I haven't been it's changed owners and changed locations
but it's always remained the Batcave and it has been our source for Pokemon cards
Yu-Gi-Oh cards like that's where they did like all the tournaments okay around
here for a while until you went to like regionals and championships which I did
and then there was another shop in Portland I can't remember the fucking
name of it it was over off like Powell and Foster or something like that but I
don't think it's there anymore that was the real the where the big
tournaments kind of started getting held okay but Batcave used to do it and I
would fucking run everybody I'd walk in there like oh I'm getting my ass beat by
everybody and then I went and did you know a couple tournaments downtown
Portland went up to like Pialup did a couple tournaments up there and just
would come back to the Batcave like alright let's run it it's when you run
it but I was also a hustler it was also alright I got these cars how much money
you got yeah all right give me you know 20 bucks and this fucking blue eyes over
here mm-hmm you know that's worth 50 bucks yeah you know and like on eBay and
check prices that was me going to different stores allowed you to find
different playing levels yeah different I mean I went from skills and it's like a
fighting game I went from playing a I don't do you have you played Yu-Gi-Oh I
have I did so I way back in the day originally when I started playing
tournaments it was a crystal beast deck and I mean it was a good crystal beast
deck I would outplay you you know outmaneuver you and wait kind of thing
okay I sit back and wait they're the ones that die and go down into your spell
thing I don't know it seems much more advanced than when I played I was like
first gen Yu-Gi-Oh oh okay this was like third gen or whatever okay so a lot of
stuff probably I played like a really it was a really slow deck not a lot of
people played it mm-hmm and I realized why but I loved them that's when I was
getting my ass whooped swapped decks into something else I learned how to play and
I was it's so fast I could literally one shot like first turn done you're done
you can't do anything I mean that's half my deck is in my hand type of shit yeah
and it was like it was a whole different playing field it was so fun though you
go got so fun and then it died it's card games themselves seem to have kind of
started to dwindle away I mean magic kind of done the same thing yeah magic
Pokemon really bad the Pokemon like actual game play for Pokemon TCG
apparently is really good right now I never liked it I never liked Pokemon I
never I collected them I collected I think I think all of us is kid yeah in
the 90s but apparently the game was man it was okay like but many rules yeah and
it was okay but apparently you can play online like and when you buy up an
actual pack you get all those cards online yeah you get like a little code
or something I was like that's that's pretty cool that's pretty tight like if
that gives you incentive to go buy physical pack yeah without having to
leave your house you can just play it cuz like Magic the Gathering has an app
now where you can play you know Magic the Gathering it's called MTGA Magic the
Gathering arena okay and it's the same as Magic the Gathering but it's a
digital card game and I'm just like I'm not gonna spin like I will go and buy
decks I'll go and buy cards just to have yeah but I'm not gonna buy digital
copies of these cards that and I the decks that I want to build are no longer
legal so I can't build them in the game because the game runs off of a standard
or type 2 format right same thing with yeah and it's just like no like I can't
build the decks that I used to play like an unrestricted match yeah like a
sliver deck exactly I did play exactly I just couldn't get into it yeah it's but
I want the shit out of some people those sliver decks were fucking impenetrable
yeah so long crazy good and it's and then they killed them yep which is good
it needed it they're unsuspecting it's it's yeah it's 50-50 yeah there's a new
card game though that I've been that I've been playing a bit that I've been
picking up cards called flesh and blood okay and it's the best way that I've
heard it explained is it's like a fighting game like imagine a card game
version of Tekken so like you have your character you have your champion and
your champion has a weapon and some gear that they can use or no gear whatever
mm-hmm and the way that the turns are is there's an attacker and a defender you
draw cards at the end of your turn not at the beginning of your turn so you
really have to balance how you're gonna defend because if you throw all your
cards on your defense is he don't know how many draw attack okay well that's
that's the thing if you draw at the end of your turn and you're like let's say
it's your turn you attack me you throw everything at me I don't want to take
any damage so I use all the cards in my hand to defend everything you say go you
draw your cards at the end of your turn so you've got a handful of cards to
block with but I just blew all my cards on you've got nothing to attack so I
have nothing it's kind of fun so you have to really find that balance you
know what that kind of reminds me of though did you ever play hearthstone I
did play hearthstone I still play it I don't I played it for a little bit I
played the beta for so long I've I'm off and on with it so I'll go like a season
I won't play and then I'll play and then I won't play and it's kind of kind of
what that sounds like minus the other monsters you some um the whole champion
and yeah in like with that one champion so the way that it is is it's like when
you're the attacker you start a combat chain like it'll be a lot easier that's
kind of sounds like you go sort of yes that's how they did it was chaining yeah
it's like a culmination of like a bunch of different card games and like even
the mana system like everything is based on you have a small amount of resources
so use it wisely so you start out your turn with zero mana you have to discard
cards from your hand and depending on the card you'll get either one two or
three mana and then you use those cards to actually cast the other cards in your
hand hmm and it's it's like it's like a sacrifice yeah you got a really blood
sweat and tears exactly blood of flesh and blood and that's kind of sounds fun
and it's very intriguing it's it's the most fun I've had in a card game for
a really really really long time hmm so and it's new like it's super new it's
it's the card game that a lot of like old-school magic magic the gathering
players are going to because it's something new it's something familiar
and magic kind of sucks right now right and they've continued to suck for the
past like five years and they're just getting worse and worse and worse though
yeah it's a blast so I've been playing that kind of almost like did you ever
play uh was the hero clicks did you ever play those no I never fucked with hero
clicks those were so fun I I didn't get like super deep into it but I did play a
little bit enough to collect like it was like enough for a team or two it was
like superhero mage night right kind of superhero warhammer yeah more warhammer
than anything but it was it was you know Marvel and comics and I think they had
like other stuff too mine was mostly the Marvel stuff but it was it was tight
it's kind of the same thing as warhammer you know you get the little figurines
you got stuff on the bottom it gives you a little stats and shit little yeah like
a little emblem with some numbers and a little Turner you know you would turn
the bottom of it with a number kind of like a dial like yeah the click part
that was your like your health and shit and then you would have cards too so
like power-up cards you roll dice and shit it's pretty cool you get a little
map like a little paper map out so it was a miniature game yeah like okay like
they're a little warhammer cuz I play it was more like warhammer than anything I
mean made like so when I played games like that there were like three three
that most people played and then hero clicks was like the one they kind of
occasionally people would play off in the side right it was warhammer which
was like toys warhammer you know warhammer mage night and mage night was
essentially fantasy yeah I never got to play it but I didn't watch some people
play it yeah and I knew about it there was war machine yeah that one I didn't
war machine was similar to warhammer but the armies were a lot smaller okay
normally yeah like you know I've seen some future figurines I've seen some
warhammer shit and it's like how do you carry you're carrying like a fucking
cars worth of yeah figurines with you for like one battle you got to go get a
fucking a Kano line van just to take your fucking army yeah and it's like
you're gonna go play for fucking six hours on one match yeah if that ends in
six hours it probably takes you this fucking you got a little mini school bus
take all this shit yeah it's fucking crazy like a fucking horse trailer like
yeah yeah what the fuck it's almost to the point where if you're gonna get into
warhammer you need to make sure that you've got a piece of property with a
barn that you can just convert into your playing field and you got to have a lot
of money yeah a lot of time to paint figurines mm-hmm I've seen yeah which I
mean you can just paint the figurines quick and dirty but like nobody wants
to do that no like you want to invest your time into it you want I can't I
can't draw I can't paint I can't I can't draw for shit paintings different
though the lines are already there that's true you just got to paint within
the lines yeah it's it's this is not for me it's uh yeah I mean you're looking at
spending 10 to 20 hours on painting a piece I will tell you you'll be the first
one to know and then the podcast is gonna know but I am trying I need to find
a really good artist I'm trying to create my own card game that would be
I've been working on it for a few years yeah I just won't tell you what it is
yet okay but it's kind of like old-school Yu-Gi-Oh and magic okay than
anything maybe with a little bit of the like collecting of Pokemon mm-hmm but
the whole point is to have quick matches not like fucking an hour-long match no
it's boom no the quicker you are the more you get type thing okay but yeah
yeah I mean we need more card games cuz like I love card games were my thing
they sides Pokemon it was like it was card games it but it was like fun we get
laughed at like and I got ridiculed more for playing you know you go and magic
then walking around with my fucking 3ds or my Nintendo DS at school playing
Pokemon yeah like it was weird like and then now everybody plays Pokemon yeah
everybody won't go fucking it blew up and everybody plays well what's funny is
like the shit that we used to get picked on play Pokemon is now what the cool
kids are doing that's what I mean like does that mean we have to stop liking it
now I mean kind of that's kind of what drew us to it was because it was different
and we liked it nobody else liked it now everybody fucking loves everybody loves
it and it's like everybody watches yeah my wife doesn't but well she my wife
watches way more anime than I do my wife cannot stand it well I get I just get
but she's a lot of the times yeah but it lets me do what I do yeah but like
comic books anime fucking the all these games like Demon Slayer so popular like
big popular everybody knows that show well everyone's in love with Nezuko
all right everybody but me yeah I see it as I'm like she's a little girl dude
this was like 1800s bro fuck but a lot of people are weird man like manga is
big now again have you heard of the rip a verse yes I have yeah tell me about
that did you order it I have it okay so you didn't tell me about it a new one
just went live I got to show you this a new one like today the pre-order campaign
went live like three days ago oh yeah this is the one you told me about like
it's all connected what is that that's how much money they've made in the past
like four days oh my god almost 1.5 million off of pre-orders Jesus and
their goal was 350,000 you made a mill and a half I someone which was the first
one that they put out he made like three mil Jesus and this is just the manga
isn't it yeah it's just a comic book yeah it's like the first one was 90
pages this one's like a hundred and something pages yeah see I need to find
an artist I had the idea for a fucking manga for so long and I've tried to like
type it in pro because I I've been writing like I got like three different
books I'm in the curb like trying to write sitting on that other laptop
sitting there but I can't visually get it all right and I've been wanting to do
manga for so long and so like I need to find a good artist for that plus the car
game plus you know a few things yeah I'm not trying to learn how to draw no
that's what I'm not fucking with that I'm yeah but if I find a really good one
I got a lot of money to be made like just sitting on the table if I find the
right person waiting to make it yeah like we could do a lot of shit but
that's fucking crazy yeah well and like that's his thing he's like I I'm not an
artist like I can write music I can write stories I have ideas and somebody
else just draws it exactly so he went and hired Stan Lee yeah cuz he went and
hired Jack Kirby right there yeah well and he's getting like like veterans
from Marvel from DC like a what that kind of price yeah
Gabe El Taibbi is one of his one of the person that's working for him Cliff
Richards works for him yeah like these are the Soska sisters are
interest working for him now I'm gonna have to check it out yeah he's getting
like big name people from the comic book industry that are being kind of
ridiculed and becoming outcasts for simply not subscribing to the hardcore
left-wing political ideology that's going on within so it's like cards and
comics so it's like the jugalose of comics pretty much essentially yeah
just the people that are like yeah no I'm not I'm not gonna bow down and
subscribe to your fuck all that ideology I ain't doing that and yeah and that's
tight yeah I gotta check it out it's I'm excited I ordered so I got isom number
one with the very limited copy cover signed and then for isom 2 same thing
except for isom 2 it's signed and it'll be graded and in a like a hard plastic
case when I get it right and it's not the cheapest but I feel like one day
it's what I could essentially be holding like you know Batman number one signed
right spider-man number one sign it all starts somewhere exactly right and if it
doesn't go anywhere whatever you enjoy it whatever you know so who knows that
not in like you know your grandkids exactly finding your stuff like this
graded comics in here that all of a sudden is the new spider-man number one
or Superman number one and now you know my kids can either hold on you know
white glove that shit hold on to it or become a multimillionaire whatever you
do I don't care I'm dead same thing with a crypto too just fucking get it and
forget about it let somebody else deal with it later basically they're coming
down hard on crypto I know it's I can do a whole episode into that crazy right
like an hour 17 minutes so far I was like I can do a whole nother hour just
about crypto in the government right now yeah I was just talking to my wife's
grandparents earlier like literally a few hours ago about the whole Fed now
and crypto crackdown and oh my god they're they're coming down heavy on it
and it is it's all about money they they want their fair share and they want the
control yeah from the Fed now well we found a way to make money about
everybody yeah where everybody has control mm-hmm and they they can't have
a blockchain technology is fucking fascinating yeah the government can't
have that like when I told I told my wife I was going to a podcast and she
goes oh what are you doing it on I told her you know nerdy geeky shit geek shit
she goes oh I thought you would be doing it on politics because she knows that
that's like that's my thing is I follow politics pretty heavily I mean I can get
into that and I'm just like no I don't think so but a little bit everything yeah
I did I'm so frustrated that's what we used to do on on the ADHD show mm-hmm
was like whatever the fuck we wanted to push buttons yeah on that show this
one's a little bit more geeky but do whatever the fuck I want yeah I mean
it's just so but I can get into all that for the thing that's frustrating me the
most is
in the Pacific Northwest we are going so insane with the tax money like we live
in the most corrupt states in the entire Republic well I mean California
California is pretty corrupt but they're open about it yeah okay that's a good
point like they're like yeah we're gonna take your money yeah and we're telling
you about it is it Oregon they try to they try to hide in sweepin Oregon hides
everything they they did try an audit like two years ago and they found
billions literally billions of money that just was disappearing mm-hmm and
they wonder why the never was so fucking high yeah and it's like like the OLCC
hello like there were like 37 different accounts of misallocated funds in the
OLCC alone yeah that's the Commission that controls the liquor and the weed
now imagine that compared to Florida right now I haven't even followed
Florida no no Florida's like I think probably the biggest right wing around
right now mm-hmm he's the he's the big dick
yeah and telling everybody to get back Texas has kind of been middle ground
there yeah they're kind of playing it low a little bit Florida's like flop it
on the table in front of the world type shit they don't give fuck right now yeah
and it's that's beautiful that's how it should be there's a there's actually
like a full-on video you can find it on YouTube from like I think it was like a
year or two ago what who was I think it was the governor to Santa it wasn't to
Santa's it was an older dude might have been the chief of police or something it
was somebody I can't remember specifically and it's bugging me but he
pretty much had said that uh next time somebody's breaking into your house
call a crackhead because they want to defund the police yeah yeah yeah I just
die yeah that was a police commissioner I think he was the same one police
commissioner there you go I think he was the older guy and they oh yeah he went
on yeah it was the same dude that went on like a little rant and he was like if
you break into someone's house expect to get shot we don't play that around here
yeah yeah exactly cuz he's like um how was it like killed a bad guy he's like
you're saving us money mm-hmm like you're saving us ammo yeah don't call
us handle it yourself I'm like if I didn't like alligators so much I'd move
down there right right I used to live in Florida man long long long long long
time I've never even been there it's not even once it's uh something I can't do
hurricanes either no the hurricanes the tornadoes the storms I mean the storms
are fine but not when they're like I live in her living fucking Washington
we don't get shit here no the weather up here so mild like we get a
thunderstorm maybe once a year like where we actually see thunder like yeah
but we get rain for like so ten months out of the year yeah and then those two
months that it's not raining one of those months that's because everything's
covered in ice and the other month it's like 120 degrees yeah like that's it
that's all we get yeah like that's so there's a reason
Subarus thrive up here right right they're good to drive in the rain snow
ice heat heat doesn't matter but um yeah I think we need to let me to rope it in
a little bit so you any shoutouts you wanna give I'm not really any shoutouts
any I mean I am oceans anything I'm on YouTube myself as Corey Havoc that's
right yeah um and I knew that and just yeah I get into the topics I just I
don't know I don't even really make videos or anything anymore when I do
it's just random one-offs maybe once a month I remember we were talking about
having you come out and do videos for us yeah and then I just I started working
and then I just kind of like I did get a new little webcam camera over there
right there and there you go so it's a start yeah I need a new PC though yeah
to run all that they're not too there I mean I just need to have somebody come
and just video and just do all the editing for me right I'll do the audio
side somebody else do the videos right but just wait till I get my studio built
there you go yeah much nicer once I mean once you get the studio set up it'll be
a lot easier because then you can you can start off doing the quick and dirty
method you know just have a camera set up well my plan was the the tripod and
the cell phone mm-hmm was just I mean I got fucking iPhones over here there you
go yeah that'll work I pod set it up edit it later exactly it'll be was my
thought easy to edit it right there on the iPhone mm-hmm not really have to
worry about it and then from there you know you can make shorts make clips or
even there was I think we were talking about getting more of the webcam stuff
and while we're recording run OBS and live stream yeah straight to like
twitch you could do where we can or even to YouTube yeah we can just download it
later and upload the audio we have but if we do it through OBS the mics are
already hooked to it it's already like boom yeah and then just rip the podcast
from there and then that's that's an easy process to do also yeah it's just
the computing power I need yeah I mean cuz with stream lives you can you can
send it to YouTube twitch fucking yeah I got stream labs rumble all of it at the
same time yeah but it's also my only problem is running OBS with Adobe so
because recording the audio for the podcast all at the same time mm-hmm
makes it a little meh yeah that might not work out too great yeah I don't know
I've never tried it though I'm working on it though yeah so we build a studio
make it look nice yeah I want to put video when you just like we're sitting
in my bedroom I mean everyone starts somewhere my dressers or my wife's
dressers they're like we got pictures hanging up like it's not a it works for
now yeah it works I mean that's what mine is I just record from my bedroom
right so well I'm lucky enough to have extra bedroom soon yeah I don't gonna
they turn this garage into a room otherwise I would just take that room
and then turn this into a whole big fucking studio yeah I mean there's
bathroom right there bathroom shower and all that so I mean right there in the
studio the only problem is I want a outside door yeah so I didn't have to
come through the house everything just make them crawl through the window right
I mean it's three stairs low enough when the AC is not in it I mean you
literally could like I'm 511 I could literally just hop in yeah yeah just one
foot at a time so I mean just as long as they're not too fat to hop a little bit
right or too short or too short I mean it's it's a fairly big window to yeah
big-ass dude should be able to fit through that hopefully just don't try
it when I'm not here that's that's my warning yeah but yeah so I didn't you
shout out the YouTube yeah just at Corey Havoc YT on YouTube that's it that's it
that's it well thanks for coming of course man it's a little late I know I
work overnights it's morning for me yeah right look it's Saturday night like I
do shit yeah but it's been wonderful so it's been fun I it's different without
my friend Zach here without my co-host mm-hmm different but he's not a fan of
Wow he never really played Wow or Diablo really so it doesn't really bother him
yeah I mean and that doesn't want to meet you though he did tell me yeah well
I'm sure we'll meet at some point yeah you're gonna come back for sure oh yeah
oh yeah for sure I'll tell you about this other I'll tell you the idea later
okay where you'll come back for sure yeah yeah and yeah we'll discuss it here
in the minute once uh let's we turn the podcast off yeah cuz I'm not telling
everybody else the plan yet no it's a big secret they can wait they heard about
the card game that was good enough I'm gonna give him a warning you know give
me five ten years right right be the next big thing as soon as I find somebody
to draw should just let should just let my kids do it you should my kids draw
some shit and then I'll fucking make this big complex like fucking magic game
out of it that would be actually pretty time and then they just over here with
like squiggles and I'll name it like fucking squiggles the destroyer it could
work man why am I giving out a million dollar idea I don't know I guess right
I don't know why you got to clip that off disregard all of that but anyways
yeah so this has been another episode I'm probably gonna throw this up a week
or two probably do we do weekly we already did an episode for this week I
don't know figure it out you'll be on there though for sure I have faith in
you oh yeah I've got so much like I've got bonus episodes ready to be released
I've got so much already like pre-recorded just just ready to go oh
yeah that's how you do it that will be released like don't worry people you
will get it I just might make you pace on patreon for it I should just start a
patreon just I mean there's no reason not to I got to give them content to
pay for but yeah I don't know they will do patreon for the card game there you
go yeah get a little Kickstarter campaign going get money to pay an
artist yeah I don't know fuck it but this has been a great episode man I
appreciate you I appreciate you having me out here yeah now it's time for a
smoke break yeah I agree but hard hard agree all right have a good night peeps
peace