Sam Sethi 00:00:06.320 - 00:00:19.180 Chapters are an amazing way to break up a long form podcast into smaller segments for people to look at. You might want to jump or skip a chapter and move ahead. Or at least it just gives you a guide to what's coming in the podcast. Claire Waite Brown 00:00:20.400 - 00:00:47.748 Welcome to Fanzone, your bite sized guide to getting the most out of the TrueFans podcast app. In each episode we'll discuss an aspect of the app and hopefully answer any questions you may have about it. Plus, when you listen to Fanzone in TrueFans, you can earn as you listen and use your earnings to support your favourite podcasters. I'm Claire Waite Brown, independent podcaster and all round podcast enthusiast. Sam Sethi 00:00:47.844 - 00:00:51.320 And I'm Sam Sethi, the CEO and founder of TrueFans. Claire Waite Brown 00:00:52.540 - 00:01:23.840 We are having a look at the tabs on the episode level screen currently. So an episode that you're listening to. These tabs are specific to that episode episode. Now chapters is one of my favourite new things that you can do with podcasts and Sam's going to explain to me now what I'm going to see in most cases depending on the podcaster, if I click on the Chapter tab for an episode. Sam Sethi 00:01:23.960 - 00:01:55.016 Chapters are an amazing way to break up a long form podcast into smaller segments for people to look at. You might want to jump or skip a chapter and move ahead. Or at least it just gives you a guide to what's coming in the podcast. What you'll get with most podcasts hopefully is a chapter piece of artwork. You'll get a link to that external piece of information related to that chapter and you'll also get the option to share that chapter as well if you want to. Claire Waite Brown 00:01:55.168 - 00:01:59.610 Brilliant. How do those chapters get there? Sam? Sam Sethi 00:01:59.770 - 00:02:40.762 So there are two ways of doing that. If your host supports chapters, then you will go into your host and hopefully they've got some new cool AI. So Captivate and Buzzsprout certainly do. I know Blubrry and a few of the others like Ausha are coming out with them. So you'll be able to say quickly to an AI agent in your host, create chapter markers for me. You can then go and adjust those to be more accurate and they will have a timestamp with them that gets added to your RSS feed. And then when you publish your new episode, we as an app will read the chapter markers and display it in the episode page for you. So that's one way that you can get chapters. Claire Waite Brown 00:02:40.786 - 00:03:15.340 Just jumping in for a moment. You can of course make your own chapters without using AI as I do for this show by manually putting in your timestamps, chapter titles and pics and links if relevant. The hosting companies that offer chapters, as Sam mentioned, Buzzsprout, Captivate and Blubrry, but also RSS.com which I've shown in the chapter art for this chapter, make adding chapters really easy. Sam Sethi 00:03:15.450 - 00:03:38.344 The other way is if your host does not support chapters but you want to stay with your host, then if you've claimed your podcast in TrueFans and got into your creators admin dashboard, you can go into the chapters tab in your creator's dashboard and create your chapter markers and then they would just be displayed in TrueFans. Claire Waite Brown 00:03:38.472 - 00:04:39.528 Okay. Oh, that's really cool then. So you can do it even if your hosting company doesn't do it. But obviously this will be specific to TrueFans and we'll talk about how creators can do that in a future episode. The play button next to each chapter means you can jump straight to that chapter. And I think there may be some thoughts with regards to . . . Well, I don't want somebody to skip through my show, but I think that it can be very useful for keeping your listeners if you can direct the listener to the part of the show that they really want to listen to. For example, if you're listening to a sports show, you really love what that podcast talks about, but you don't like it when they talk about road cycling, so you don't wanna listen to that bit. You could think, I'm not gonna listen to the whole show until I get to my bit. That's just too much light, hard work. But if I look at the chapters, I can just click on the bits that I'm interested in and you retain a happy listener then. Sam Sethi 00:04:39.664 - 00:05:17.118 Indeed. And as a listener, you have control as well, where you can actually mark a chapter to be skipped. So in the three dots, one of the options is skip this chapter. And we did that because you can maybe look at the chapters while you start the show. Your your eyes going over the top of it and go, oh yeah, that chapter. I don't want to hear that chapter. I don't want to hear. So you can then click the three dots, mark that skip this chapter. Put the phone back in your pocket and you're off. And then when it gets to that chapter, we will just skip ahead to the next chapter for you. Claire Waite Brown 00:05:17.254 - 00:05:20.414 Brilliant. So I never have to listen to road cycling again. Sam Sethi 00:05:20.582 - 00:05:21.970 Or Sam Sethi. Claire Waite Brown 00:05:25.430 - 00:06:08.210 Now, we have been using chapters in this podcast and the photos specifically. So what is good for this kind of show where we're kind of helping you to learn how to use something is that we can put in photos with these arrows that say press here. Click here. This is what we're talking about, which I think could be useful for so many other types of podcasts as well. So if you haven't noticed the photos in our chapters, go back and listen to the other episodes and then look at the photos. But the photos don't only appear on the chapter list, do they? If you if you've got your episode screen up as the chapter changes, that photo will be the big photo on the screen, won't it? Sam Sethi 00:06:08.290 - 00:06:12.830 Correct. Yes. They can also be gifs and video if we want as well. Claire Waite Brown 00:06:13.210 - 00:06:23.442 Oh blimey, I didn't know that. You see, I keep learning things as we go along. Brilliant. Thank you so much Sam. Sam Sethi 00:06:23.586 - 00:06:24.870 Thank you Claire. Claire Waite Brown 00:06:25.610 - 00:06:50.780 Thanks so much for listening. There are lots more episodes of Fanzone for you to get stuck into and that show you how to make the most of the fab features that this forward looking podcast app is has to offer podcast listeners and creators alike. We'd love to hear from you. 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